Dr. David Anderson, a former U.S. Air Force flight test engineer and founder of the Time Travel Research Center (1995), reveals his team’s breakthrough: a 30–40 cm time-warp field accelerating or decelerating time for objects inside it via 12 lasers, six injectors, and high-speed rotational magnetic fields, despite the Doppler effect’s deadly radiation risks—80% of plant seedlings died in early tests. Private investors and medical groups fund his work, which could revolutionize organ preservation, disease reversal (e.g., cancer, AIDS), and industrial efficiency, though ethical misuse remains a concern. Anderson critiques NASA’s $70M Gravity Probe B as redundant but acknowledges its role in validating frame-dragging. Callers speculate on parallel universes, spiritual realities, and UFOs as future time travelers, while Anderson stays grounded, dismissing paradoxes like "transcription errors" unless objects breach the field’s boundary layer. His upcoming Long Island space-time museum will archive 10,000+ items, including films and experiments—hinting at a convergence of physics, metaphysics, and unanswered energy mysteries. [Automatically generated summary]
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And by the way, hello to my friends down at the Antarctic at McMurdo.
We are going to talk tonight about One of my favorite topics in the world may be my favorite actually.
In the first hour, I'm going to talk to time travelers.
Those of you out there who claim to be time travelers, in the second hour, we're going to have actually a very serious guest on time travel.
David Anderson, Dr. David Anderson, Ph.D. is a former United States Air Force officer, flight test engineer, and scientist who developed a passion for space-time study while conducting research at the prestigious Air Force Flight Test Center.
Now, listen to this.
For the last 20 years, he has been formulating and developing his breakthrough concepts in space-time physics and the study of time.
His work led to the development of what today is called the time-warped field theory.
His research holds the first promise for the development and application of practical time control technology.
In 1995, Dr. Anderson founded the Time Travel Research Center, today the world's most advanced research laboratory dedicated exclusively to the study and development of time control technology and its application.
His company also sponsors an organization called the Time Travel Research Association, which networks time travel information and interests from more than 80 countries around the world.
Now, as you know, many of our nation's top theoretical physicists insist that with a proper amount of energy, time travel is definitely going to be possible.
Therefore, if time travel is going to be possible, if that is an accurate scenario, then one might reasonably ask, well, then where are the time travelers?
They ought to be here, right?
They ought to be here.
And I suspect that they are here.
Now, I'm not saying that when I begin picking up lines here in a few minutes and requesting to talk to any of you who claim to be time travelers, I'm not saying that these people are real, and I'm not saying they're not.
That's for you to judge.
All I'm saying is that it is reasonable to assume that if time travel will eventually be a reality, then there should be time travelers here now.
There really should.
So that's what lies ahead.
Let's see what's in the news.
Alien's father, in the morning, will come to the U.S. And will hope to take his son away.
And you know what?
I have no comments on this whole thing.
It's going to be big in the news and probably real trouble for Miami.
I hope they are braced for it, and I'm sure they are.
Otherwise, I see nothing in the news that even merits particular comment from me.
Partial birth partial birth abortion ban news.
Let's see, GOP courting Hispanics with a new ad.
Jewish settlers occupy Hilltop, West Bank, Microsoft going through its agony, biotech food safety urged, North Carolina school and same-sex class, really.
Because they thought that wasn't for eighth graders.
So they're going to let them get back together again with the girls.
Because it was this big thing going around saying that American education discriminated against girls in the classroom.
But the teachers somehow regarded them as less important than the guys.
So that's basically what the news is, not much.
But time travel, that's different.
Now, I do have to tell you what I do have.
I have an awful lot of environmental news that's scary as hell.
A global warming sea change.
You know about that?
The sea change temperature.
A gigantic hole opening up in the ozone layer over the Arctic, which scientists believe will severely damage the natural shield protecting the northern hemisphere.
That guess what?
That's us.
From cancer-causing sunlight.
So down in Australia, you know, the children are required to wear headgear to school, and soon that may be the reality here, too.
In Cairo, French archaeologists have discovered the remains of a 4,000-year-old Queen's Pyramid south of Cairo, complete with texts of special prayers previously found only with kings.
And here's an article on Church Urge to Recognize Reality of Hell.
It's a really interesting article, too.
But this hour, what I want to do is talk to people, you out there, who claim to be travelers in time.
Believe me, it's interesting.
Strange, but interesting.
So if you're a time traveler, call me.
That's all we're going to take calls from this hour.
People who claim to have arrived here, here now, through time, through whatever method.
Coming right up.
All right, we are accepting calls this hour from time travelers only.
If you have traveled in time or you are presently a traveler to this time, then we want to hear from you.
Otherwise, the phone lines are closed, but for that group, they are certainly open.
With that in mind, top of the morning to you on the wildcard line.
The Pennsylvania-Maryland border and also up into Canada.
And the Confederate states.
Shortly after that, basically, Lincoln resigned.
I loved watching your Civil War.
A couple of years ago, you had the PBS special, and it was a big hit in our dimension because it was something that, you know, it didn't, we never thought that had been possible.
We've been able to It must be indeed in your dimension entirely different.
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It's entirely different.
Basically what happened is the United States went ahead and invaded Canada.
The Confederate States of America have basically went all the way to your Panama, which is basically Mexico all the way to Central America are just Confederate states to us.
it's a very nice stuff anyway this is a good I mean, you know, I'm reading this environmental news, and the ozone layer is getting gigantic to the point where they say it's going to be affecting us up north here the way Australia is affected.
The ocean is Warming, the storms are getting worse, things are going to hell in a handbasket, really.
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Well, we're concerned about that, and we're also concerned about, I guess, how conspiratorial the United States government is.
Is it a rosy one or I guess the thing that we're most surprised about, since we've went to a lot of dimensions with this level of technology, is the lack of space travel that you have done.
I've seen other, I guess...
I've seen other areas with the same tech level or the same technology that you have, and they already have a colony on the moon.
Well, there'd be differences like, okay, like that one guy, you know, you'd be like the senator or, you know, different senators, different congressmen at different times, you know, little things.
But basically, even if we lost the First World War, in some dimensions, it'd end up almost the same.
There's different points of history that just absolutely have to happen.
During the first hour, we spoke with travelers in time, actually in dimensions.
This hour, we're going to talk seriously about time travel.
Actually, we were last hour, too.
Or maybe not.
You decide.
But coming up shortly is David Anderson, who is a former United States Air Force officer, flight test engineer, and scientist.
He developed a passion for space-time study while conducting research at the prestigious Air Force Flight Test Center.
For the last 20 years, two decades, he's been formulating and developing his breakthrough concepts in space-time physics and the study of time.
His work led to the promise for the development of the application of practical time control technology.
Oh, doesn't that sound interesting?
In 1995, Dr. Anderson founded the Time Travel Research Center.
Today, the most advanced research laboratory dedicated exclusively to the study and development of time control technology and its application.
His company also sponsors an organization entitled the Time Travel Research Association, which networks time travel information and interests from more than 80 countries all around the world.
I think to you and us today, it's on the edge, but I think within the next five to ten to fifteen years, we're going to see a lot of common applications of time control theory and technology in our daily lives.
Where I initially began, though, was when I was young, I always had an interest in mathematics and physics.
And as you mentioned earlier, I did spend about five years doing research and development at the Flight Test Center, the Air Force Flight Test Center in the Mojave Desert.
There I got involved in space-time research.
And I think the enlightening day for me was we were trying to solve a problem with some of our satellite systems.
We had an unexplained variance in our satellite positions where they were drifting so much every year.
And I was assigned to the project.
We solved the problem.
And about two years later, after solving the problem, I went back and I looked at the numbers.
And what fell out of that was a lot of new models with regards to space-time and its ties to magnetism and energy.
But what was the confusing issue to everybody was the satellites were not where they were predicted to be.
And it turned out that the bottom line was that it was due to the results of what's called frame-dragging, a prediction that comes out of Einstein's general theory of relativity.
Well, frame-dragging is a phenomenon predicted by general relativity that talks about how a spinning mass, like the Earth or the Moon, actually will drag space and time around it slightly, to a very small degree.
Well, I think the implications that came out of that art was that it wasn't so much that we solved the problem.
What we realized, we came up with a new mathematical model that not only corrected the satellite predictions and where they should be, but it also illustrated to us Some new relationships that existed between space and time and energy and electromagnetic fields, I guess, a coupling of those different technologies that weren't apparent before.
And from that coupling, that's when my passion, I think, it was always a passion, but like you, I think from that point it really became an obsession.
Well, we probably spent, I spent probably a good part of, I would say, eight to ten years doing nothing but trying to refine that mathematical model, doing a lot of different research, a lot of different development.
And I think the biggest milestone for me was I finally reached a point, I think in the early 1990s, where I realized that some types of time control technology were achievable today.
And at that point, I began to fund and launch the Time Travel Research Center in 1995.
Time control is interesting because anytime you tell somebody you're working in space-time physics, the first thing they always joke about is, so your mission is to build a time machine.
And I won't deny that that's a key focus and a passion for all of us here.
But the initial application of our technology will be not for sending somebody through space and time.
It'll be more for applications in everyday life.
One of our key focus areas is in medical applications.
Well, early on, I think two of our most high interest areas right now where we receive most of our funding and most of our focus is in two areas.
The first is the medical industry, and the second is an industrial process application.
And the medical industry is actually our short-term focus is the development of the capability to use this technology for organ preservation to help store and preserve organs while they're waiting transplant.
Now the medical industry and the communities that we're working with right now, they really see that as a stepping stone.
What they really want to see our time warp field technology used for is for eventually medical stasis fields that will help slow or stop the progression of disease and eventually Let's back up to organs for a second.
If you apply time control technology to the preservation of organs, does that mean, for example, that somebody who has a head trauma and dies, whose organs are going to be used for transplantation, in some manner or another, you would apply time technology to keep the organs fresh?
So an object inside of that field will experience a slightly accelerated or slightly retarded time rate relative to anything outside.
So by placing an organ that's awaiting transplant inside of that field, we can actually slow down the rate at which time passes for that organ, making it preserving it much longer.
Typically what we do is once we establish the field and we place an object or test instrumentation inside of the field and we adjust the time rate, that time rate, they say it's 50% of the rate at which time passes outside of the field.
Well, there is some proprietary information I cannot provide, but to give you a rough outline, creating the field, I'd say, would pretty much happen in a three-step process.
First, we use an antenna configuration that introduces a high-speed rotational and magnetic field in the core area of the field.
Well, actually, believe it or not, that's probably not the most important element.
It's actually important.
We found out from a stability standpoint it's important.
But then we use an injector system that establishes what I'll just say is a necessary core environment.
And the key element there is the injection of a gas reagent.
The third step is that we use a high-energy laser Array to introduce and then to induce and then modulate the field.
And this is, I guess I'll say for some of the scientists out there, this is similar, not identical, but similar to what's done in high-energy plasma physics.
Okay, well, I've interviewed a number of people who claim involvement in that.
And the technical description that they gave, Doctor, of the equipment that was used in that experiment, which really was a radar evasion experiment more than it was time travel or invisibility or anything like that, but they used rotating fields, magnetic fields, and RF as well, rotating RF fields.
I'm trying to remember the exact configuration and power amounts, but are you familiar with the story, vaguely?
As a matter of fact, I know what they did is that they were trying to de-gaus the ship so it couldn't be detected by mines, so they were using magnetic coils around the ship with high-energy magnetic fields.
What I would say there is a big difference between what we're doing and their magnetic field.
Yeah, you know, sometimes I wish I didn't have to say those four words, but it is an important part.
What we found out was when we induce a field, the most important part is establishing the right core environment, getting the gas reagent distributed properly, and then firing our laser ray into the field.
And like I said, it's very, very similar to high-energy plasma experimentation.
We found out, though, that the rotational magnetic field helped us solve some stability problems.
It's a key component, but it's not a driving element.
Our biggest area is to see the application of this in the medical applications because we see it offering a tremendous, not only a brand new field of technology, but a tremendous benefit for people around the world.
Neil Armstrong's one step, you're Anderson, for mankind, a giant leap for mankind is what it would be to be able to preserve organs with actual time travel might not be the right phrase for it, huh?
It's a great place to hang everybody up, including me.
I want to hear this.
Stay right where you are.
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What you would have would be a perfect demonstration, which we've done over and over again, of showing how the time rate acceleration happens.
We place one clock within the field and then one clock outside of the field as a reference clock, and then we can show the divergence as the field is adjusted.
I'm trying to think of a real succinct way to put this.
We have, when we create a field, there's obviously a time rate outside of the field and a time rate inside of the field, and there's a variance.
And inside what we call the boundary layer, which you can picture as like a thin shell, like an eggshell, around that spherical field, that shell area or the boundary layer is where the time rate actually changes.
And it has a peculiar effect of Dopplering frequencies and energy.
So what happens is that if we have certain types of energy inside or outside of the field, heat can be Dopplered up to light.
Light can be Dopplered up to other things.
Higher temperatures could be, and light could be Dopplered up to gamma radiation.
And what happens is, when I said the stability problem, our shell boundary layer is a very thin shell.
The word shell is very applicable.
All the way from 300% down to about 13.2%.
What happens as we try to get closer and closer to the zero time rate and when we pass through it, that shell actually expands.
It becomes thicker.
And that Dopplering effect carries all the way through almost to the center of the core.
And when we did our first test last year on plant seedlings, our first test on living organisms, we actually ended up cooking about 80% of the plant seedlings that were inside the cell.
Yeah, basically every color has a frequency, and as the light or that color moves outward through the field, when we're accelerating time, that frequency is actually dropped or down, so colors will actually shift in shades when we're accelerating slowly, and it gets more dramatic as we increase the time rate divergence.
Well, again, what happens is to early on, well, to maintain the field.
As I mentioned, there were three steps in implementing a field.
The third one was inducing the field with the reagent with a high-energy laser array.
We have lasers, and after a field is induced, the lasers still fire at a certain pattern.
When they do, they're inducing energy into the boundary layer of the field.
That energy, again, if we're retarding time, is doppered up, which takes it up to, you know, depending on the degree which we're trying to retard time, it will actually dopper that up to more harmful radiation.
So when I say cook, I'm not necessarily saying heat.
The laser is used, we need a certain amount of energy in the field to maintain it, and that's what the lasers are used to do.
Our first model, our first, actually our first model of our time-warp field generator included three lasers and one, we call it an injector sensor array.
Our current model we're using right now has 12 lasers and six injector sensor arrays on it.
So we actually have 12 lasers that are used to maintain and modulate the field.
You mentioned early on baby steps, and that's something that's actually very important to us.
A lot of people ask us, why haven't we tested this on animals or people yet?
And there's two reasons.
The first one is the field size is too small.
But more importantly, this Doppler effect or this boundary layer problem where Doppler's energies and frequencies literally can have very damaging effects on living tissue.
Exactly.
Or radiating the mouse is maybe a better way to put it.
But we know we can solve this problem.
In art, when we solve this problem, the impact this technology could have on research, finding cures for diseases like heart disease, cancers, diabetes, and AIDS is absolutely profound.
And eventually when we can use this on a living person, the science fiction days of stasis fields or disease regression fields might not be science fiction anymore.
What do you believe stands between you and the ability to subject biological entities to this?
In other words, in the manner that you now create the field, there's going to have to be a whole new manner of the creation of that field to avoid the effect on biological organisms, isn't there?
The first issue is understanding the boundary layer better.
And I've got to tell you, we've had great successes in the last two years, and we're making some great results.
But when it comes to the boundary layer and understanding it, which is very important to us, we must understand it better, we have more questions than we have answers.
But to give you an example, when we had our three-laser system compared to today, we had to inject about, I think it was close to, I can't remember exactly now, it was about 20 to 25 times more power to induce and maintain the field.
As we've learned more about the boundary layer, we've now cut that back by a factor of 20 to 25.
So as we bring that energy down, and that's actually the biggest achievement here, is to be able to create a time-warp field with a lower amount of energy.
As we bring that energy down, it's going to help solve the problem.
When I asked about safety, when you create a time warp field, is there any danger?
It's kind of like when they dropped the atomic bomb.
They first, many credentialed scientists thought it might ignite the entire atmosphere and there might be a chain reaction.
Our atmosphere would burn up.
They didn't know when they pushed the button.
They really didn't know.
So when you create a field like that, was there any concern as you approached throwing that first switch that something totally unexpected might occur that could be dangerous?
Well, early on, I had to fund a lot of my own research.
Now, the funding, and I think it's no secret, we get funding from both private investors as well as some agencies in the government have interests in what we're doing.
But to be honest with you, the largest part of our funding and interest, it comes from really two areas.
If I had to give you the top two, one, it would be from the medical community because they see the long-term possibility, and they also have a lot of money to invest every year.
The second area outside of that, I'm trying to think it's almost a toss-up, but we do have some interest from the government.
But I'd say, number one, it really is the medical community.
And then there's some people with regards to industrial process and research or scientific test acceleration.
What I can say is that that's what a lot, actually, believe it or not, the one thing I can say is that a lot of people hear the name Project Dark Star, which is the name we gave our initial project to explore time-warp field technology.
And a lot of people think that it sounds very sinister like a military weapons program.
Actually, it was only because of the Dopplering effect in the boundary layer and what we saw visually.
And I tell you, to sit here and observe this thing, it's absolutely amazing.
You said it before, is that when you see something like this work, we all know that gravity and time can warp space and time, that time is not an absolute.
This is all science fact.
It's not science fiction.
But to see it actually in action at this scale is absolutely fascinating.
And I think what's interesting is I think we don't even get, after the amount of time I've spent on this, I never lose my fascination and wonder when I see us open up a field and start adjusting time rates.
But the people who see this field in operation art, the most interesting thing is they always call me back in a month, three to four weeks, and they say, I can't look at the world the same way.
I said they knew in their back of the mind that time and space were not an absolute and that time is mutable.
But when you walk down the street anymore, you don't...
Sometimes you have to ask the opposite question, and I'd say to your listeners, how can you not look at it?
We know, I mean, the fact that time is mutable and can be dilated and that we live in a universe that's made up of a dynamic web of energy, this is the fabric of the universe and the world we live in.
But sometimes we tend to shrink the size of the magic and all the wonder in the world to the size of our daily routine and material possessions.
We have a cultural and biological evolution that we've been through that lets us look at time in one specific way.
But I'm saying, based on what you know now about what you have done, if they had been doing what was described at that time, is it possible they would have done great biologic injury to the volunteers?
You know what's interesting, Art, is that, you know, obviously my background includes probably 20 years of math and science.
And what's interesting is I've just started opening up my mind about a year ago and doing more work studying the nature of time and philosophy.
But we also run, and I'm not trying to plug here, but I think it would be helpful for your listeners, we have an organization called the Time Travel Research Association that's dedicated to studying the topics of time travel on any subject, from the Philadelphia Experiment to the Montauk Project to philosophy to art to religion and all the ramifications.
And I think when you ask me the question, do I believe, I'll just tell you I'm not going to say I don't believe, because as I've studied more and more outside of the rigid walls of math and physics that I've grown up in and lived all my life in, I realize that there's much to be learned there.
All right, some absolutely fantastic claims being made.
And so once again, I think this is important.
David Anderson, the man you're listening to right now, is a former U.S. Air Force officer, flight test engineer, and scientist.
He developed a passion for space-time study while conducting research at the prestigious Air Force Flight Test Center, where he found and actually cured an anomaly in satellites being not where they ought to be, and that led to all the time study.
For the last 20 years since, he's been formulating and developing his breakthrough concepts in space-time physics and the study of time.
His work led to the development of what is today called time-warped field theory.
His research holds the first promise for the development and application of practical time-control technology.
In 1995, Dr. Anderson founded the Time Travel Research Center, today the world's most advanced research lab dedicated exclusively to the study and development of time control technology and its application in Long Island.
His company also sponsors an organization called the Time Travel Research Association that networks, which rather networks time travel information and interests from more than 80 countries around the world.
I think it's worth a minute to take some time to ask you about the nature of time or what you believe with your research you understand, if anything at all, about the nature of time itself.
Well, you know, I think the best way to start with that question is to say that probably for about 2,000 years people have been asking it and have offered many answers, and I don't think I can improve on that.
But I think one of the most important things that I always point out is that time is, to many of us, a very strange and curious thing.
And one of the tests I'd encourage your listeners to do, if they haven't done it already, walk up to a friend or a family member or a stranger on the street and ask them, do you know what time is?
And they'll all nod their heads like, absolutely, yes, they do.
And they're almost sure to answer yes.
But when they do, and you ask them to explain it, they'll never have an answer for you.
They cannot find the words to explain what time is.
And what's interesting is, even as far back as the fourth century, St. Augustine even said it differently.
He said, what then is time?
If no one asks me, I know.
If I wish to explain it to one that asks us, I know not.
And it tells you it's a very deep insight into what the psychology of time really is.
I think also sometimes I think maybe after 2,000 years we don't seem to have a good definition for time.
Maybe perhaps we don't want to understand it.
A lot of times people talk about time with a negative connotation because maybe it's linked to our immortality.
We measure that movement, the stars, the planets, and therefore we know that it takes time, X number of we can measure units of something or another for an orbit, say.
If you look at physiological, biological time, you know, maybe it's the impression it leaves on the mind.
I mean, our mind expects the future, which then becomes the present.
When it becomes the present, our mind attends to us, and then it becomes the past, which we remember.
And maybe that future and past doesn't really exist.
I think what's even more interesting, Art, if you look at the world of quantum physics today, I have so many friends working in this field, and you look at what's coming out of the hard science, out of the particle accelerators and super colliders, it's more in line with the notions of time and space that were offered by the Hindus, the Buddhists, and the Taoists 2,000 years ago.
Again, my whole life has been living in the world of mathematics and physics and living within the rigid walls, inside the walls of analytical science.
But I personally believe that as we keep developing our time control technologies and the applications emerge and then we look at true time travel or interdimensional travel, I think as much as we'll look at it with regards to technology and science in terms of hardware, I think at the same time we'll see great advances coming out of the study of the human mind and metaphysics and the power of the human mind.
But coming back to your hardware, if you put a clock in a time warp field, aren't there in other words, what about this old thing of you cannot go back and meet yourself or you would destroy yourself or something like that or kill your grandfather, you know, all these problems with potential time travel.
On a smaller scale, wouldn't those problems also exist?
In other words, if you've had a clock in a field and it's coming out of either the past or the future, in essence, when you bring it out of the field, doesn't it in essence collide with itself?
Isn't there a potential problem there, or is there not?
I don't believe in cause and effect or cause and consequence or whatever you want to say.
I believe that cause and effect is dead.
I think that our world and the science of mathematics and physics now show that time travel to the future, time travel to the past, or time control technology is all real science.
I think this notion of cause and effect is more along the lines of paradoxes.
Like for instance, it's nonsense to suggest that a moving object shrinks and gets heavier, or it's nonsense to suggest that an astronaut who travels to a distant star and returns will be younger than her twin brother she left behind.
But it's not science fiction.
It's science facts.
And I think what we see here, Art, is really these are sometimes what we call paradoxes.
But I think these paradoxes are places where our rational minds really bump into their own limitations.
I think there's when we talk about the twin paradox or the astronaut traveling at high speeds, okay, you're absolutely right.
That's a time dilation in a forward direction.
It's very simple to understand, and they're right.
There's no way to go back into the past and change a cause and effect.
But if you look at what Kurt Gödel did and Frank Tipler with regards to closed time-like curves and rotating cylinders, they have shown that travel to the past does not violate the laws of math and physics.
Essentially, it shows that there's a concept called a light cone that many of your listeners might be familiar with.
It's a space-time diagram.
And it shows that if you're an object, you must move forward in time.
And if you move forward in time, you can't move at a faster speed than the speed of light.
So for every place in space, there's what's called a light cone, where the future faces in one direction, and the past faces in another direction.
However, the orientation of the future and the past, or space-time, at every point of space, we live in a world in a universe of curved space-time, can be different.
So what Kurt Godell showed, and he was the first person to present it, was that if you're in a curved space, when curved space could be created by heavy gravity, that light cone, if you followed a sequence of light cones that each pointed in a different direction, eventually they could loop back on yourself.
And Frank Tipler took Kurt Godell's work and he expanded greatly on it.
He published a number of papers on what's called the Tipler cylinder or the rotating cylinder.
And it talks about a hypothetical cylinder you could, large, infinitely long cylinder you could build in space, heavy enough mass you rotate it.
You could actually fly a ship along a specific path and go back into the past.
And in Art, what's most exciting about this, I'd encourage your listeners to read about it, is it is the first proof that shows that travel to the past does not violate the laws of math and physics.
Yeah, I think in some ways, like, for instance, in some of those movies where they did the slingshot around the sun, you know, using the heavy gravity of the sun, that's where they were trying to capture some of the science behind it.
No, actually, in this case, when you talk about the effect of general relativity on a small scale, dilating a signal so it comes back two seconds or a couple hundred milliseconds later than it should because it's passing nearby the sun, that's a minor thing.
It's relatively insignificant.
But when you talk about increasing that to the point where Frank Tipler's model took it, where you're close enough to heavy gravity for a long enough time, you literally can do it.
And what's interesting is nobody in the world, no physicist, no mathematician since Frank Tipler published his paper in 1965 can disprove it.
And it's a great place.
If somebody wants to study some of the fundamentals of time travel to the past, start with the work done by Frank Tipler.
You know, believe it or not, there's a couple theories about time travel to the past.
I'm going to answer your question a little bit roundabout.
One is using a Tipler cylinder, a rotating cylinder, you can accomplish reverse time travel.
The other is with the possibility of a wormhole.
One of the new ones put together by, I'm going to get his name wrong, a gotta from Princeton University, I forgot his first name, was something called cosmic strings.
The concept is with a rotating cylinder, there's this theoretical object in space that might be a remnant of the Big Bang called a hypothetical cosmic string.
And if that was to pass by a spinning mass, it could create warp space-time.
I'm interested in time travel, but wonder how it can be determined that time warping is the real effect being achieved and not some other effect that simulates time travel.
Can it absolutely be determined this is actual time acceleration or deceleration for that matter?
The next volley of tests is to continue to work on what we're doing with the tissue preservation.
But the real big next step for us start is to move into a living tissue or a live animal testing, which, you know, testing with animals or a living organism is a very controversial area.
But even more so, we actually, a lot of people feel our experimentation into the study of time is blasphemy or is something that we shouldn't be doing.
Since we don't, and we discussed this earlier, you freely admit, we don't understand the nature of time, then we don't understand whether it's going to be, in essence, some sort of blasphemy, do we?
I think the nature of time, again, and our lack of understanding it is really, again, just a place where our mind is bumping into its own limitation.
I mean, we live in a wonderful universe, a wonderful world filled with all kinds of magic, and we just don't see it and we don't understand it all the time.
And that doesn't mean pursuing this is a wrong thing to do.
Pursuing it with danger or risk to life would be a wrong thing to do.
But pursuing time control technology and all the benefits that it's already showing us and that, again, we hope to have this in everyday application within the next five to six years.
Please ask Dr. Anderson, if his funding is by the government, and at what point during his time research and development, would the government come in, take control of his work in the name of national security?
Now, before you say won't happen, remember when Tesla died, our government, in fact, rushed in, grabbed everything he had, including all the files and everything in his lab, and took it.
I've spent a number of years as a scientist and engineer in the Air Force.
I'm very loyal to this country.
I also keep one eye open.
I don't know the answer to that.
The government's interest in my work right now appears to be sincere and more of just a monitoring of the technology.
I can't anticipate that.
I'm not a naive person, but I'd like to think that that won't become an issue as long as we control the technology and the security well enough ourselves.
In another five to ten, I mean, right now, the everyday applications we're going to see first are harmless and totally beneficial in the area of medical and scientific testing.
Could this technology, as it continues to advance, be perverted into something destructive or not for a good purpose?
The answer is probably yes, but I'm not concerned about it right now because we're not at that point.
We obviously have a lot of security precautions in place.
We protect our work.
And again, even if somebody had access to all of our technology today, they would find it mostly, you know, all the testing we've done, really the technology today couldn't be used for anything.
Yeah, in this case, last week it was somebody trying to get information, trying to hack into our system, which was kind of a useless attempt, but it was attempted nonetheless.
First off, I'll tell all your listeners if they're making a big mistake if they don't think that public investors, private investors, and governments all around the world are funding research in this area.
Well, I think the interesting thing is that I think the hardest part is, like I said earlier, sometimes we shrink all this magic in the world to the size of our daily routines.
And we have a lot of cultural and biological evolution where we're conditioned that time is a certain thing.
But what's interesting is these concepts, like for instance, we were just talking before the last break about reversing time travel and the death of cause and effect.
This is taught, this concept of space-time diagrams and closed-time-like curves is now taught in college-level physics courses.
But what's interesting is because we don't see the effects of this apparent in our daily lives and we haven't been exposed to it, we don't accept it.
What do you imagine, if real-time travel, Doctor, were to become possible, not just time control in the field that you've created, but real-time travel, what would be the rules attached to it?
Would there be rules?
In other words, if I were to travel back into time, would I be able to physically interact in that time in every normal way one can imagine?
It's actually, believe it or not, it's one of the biggest philosophical questions around this type of research that's going on in a lot of different fields.
Because as we leave this time, in your time warp field, we see a darker presence to a material object.
So one would imagine as you move deeper into time travel, forward or reverse, that there would be shifts that would occur, the kind of shifts you're talking about in time manipulation or time control, that might virtually make you, I don't know, invisible or dysfunctional in another time.
I don't know the answer, but I've looked at it from both sides, and I go around in circles every time I get into the discussion, so it's a good point you're raising that.
Yeah, again, the object, when we accelerate the time rate inside the field, so the time rate is moving faster than outside of the field, we actually see a darkening of the object.
But it's an optical effect.
It's an optical effect of the change in the colors or the frequencies.
As a matter of fact, it's very similar for your listeners.
It's very similar to a radar gun that a policeman would use.
He fires off a frequency, say it's 100 megahertz, hits your car, and when it comes back, it's 100 megahertz plus the speed of your car.
We have a mechanical, it's a mechanical clock that uses metal balls.
It's a very simplistic metal clock, but part of the mechanism of the clock are these balls that slide down a tray and then drop through the air into another part of the clock.
And what we can actually see as we retard the time rate, or I'm sorry, reduce the time rate inside the field, you can see the balls falling slower.
The impression, the effect on people who have seen it, and it's still on myself, is amazing.
You cannot, it's hard to walk down the street and look at the world other than just this amazing place and world of dynamic web of energy and a place where space and time are things that we just are wonderful.
Would such travel into the past for a biological entity, were it possible, make that entity arrive in another time still aging at the same linear rate, with time moving at the same linear rate, or would that biological organism arrive in the past and be younger?
Well, first off, biologically speaking, biologically speaking, like say for instance, as we retard time, or you look at the case of rotating cylinders or Tipler cylinders, in that case, the biological entity would be sent back into time and they would remain at the same age and they would age at a normal rate.
The question becomes, if you send somebody back in time, you can send their biological what about their spirituality?
This is a question that gets asked me, and maybe your listeners have some answers because I don't.
You know, to send somebody back in time, what does that do to the spiritual aspects of one's mind and person and soul?
You know, what's interesting is this challenging of some of these closely held beliefs began as early as the 1960s.
Like I said, you could pick up the phone and call any physicist, any Nobel Prize-winning physicist, and ask them about Tipler cylinders and general relativity and is reverse time travel possible without violating the laws of math and physics.
Yeah, what's interesting, that was one of the points I brought up early on in our discussion, is the most exciting thing about our time warp field technology and the most amazing thing to us is the fact that we've produced these results without the energy that's predicted.
Like, for instance, a lot of people say the amount of energy required to tear time and space is something called the Planck's Constant.
In this case, that's the exciting thing.
To a physicist, the exciting thing about our time or field technology is that we've accomplished it with a significant lower level of power.
And so, obviously, the goal of the continued research would be to get closer and closer and closer to smaller amounts of power producing larger effects, yes?
You know, where time and spirituality meet the road, you've got to wonder if some of the strange things that we discuss here, the apparitions, the ghosts, the spirits, the whatever you want to call them,
if they don't have something to do with time, that if there isn't every now and then, some sort of aberration with regard to time that produces these things that we simply cannot explain.
Worth a little bit of thought.
God, this is fascinating.
We are going to go to the phones with Dr. Anderson shortly, but just a few more things.
Doctor, you heard what I said coming into this hour.
You know, if spirituality and all of this hits the road at the same time, yes, I agree.
When you mentioned Michio Keiku's work in hyperspace, he even draws some of those ideas that perhaps a lot of spiritual beliefs, a lot of people suffering from multiple personality disorders, schizophrenia, or possibly in tune with other parallel universes, a lot of interesting possible ties there.
If the object was actually in a slower time and it went back far enough or forward far enough, is it not probable that eventually it would simply disappear from the field?
I don't think so because what we're seeing again is an optical phenomenon.
It just means that it's again similar to the radar gun used by a policeman.
We're seeing an increase of the frequency.
When we, at the end of, say, we've had that object in the field and we've accelerated it at 300%, say, for two or three hours, when we tune the field, when we modulate the field back down and remove the object, the object is still the same color, it's still the same.
There's no difference in the material structure of the object or makeup.
but you've changed something in time in other words certainly that object is now aged either more or less than the other objects around it.
We've given this some thought because, as I mentioned before, we have many questions.
Sometimes in some areas, we have more questions than answers.
And matter of fact, you brought this up.
One of the other areas that we have, where we have a big question, is we seem to be receiving power inside the time warp field that is not coming from us.
When I say that, we know from our time warp field theory model and the basic models and laws Of physics, how much energy should be required to maintain our field.
When we induce a field and create it, we pull the power back on the laser array to maintain it.
However, the amount of energy we're inducing is not enough to achieve the effect.
Where's the energy coming from?
We know it's there.
We have sensor arrays.
We can see what energy is active.
Is it coming from being hypothetical now?
Is it coming from a parallel universe?
Is it coming from hyperspace?
Is it coming from maybe an effect of quantum gravitation that we don't understand?
So then if an object disappeared, you'd be sitting there not knowing whether it really had simply physically moved to another time or had essentially been disassembled, its molecules scattered to the wind.
The answer is, I think more and more, I'm believing, I think I would give a lot of credibility to the idea of it moving into another universe if I saw this.
And again, hypothetically, again, I have not seen the shed.
Yes, because I believe, again, I believe time is really just more of an artificial creation.
I think this notion of past, present, and future is, I think we'll find out.
It'll become very self-evident that our understanding of what we label time isn't a very good understanding.
You know what's interesting, for your listeners who like to do a little bit of research, there's a, and you mentioned this issue about what about all these other phenomena we see, whether it be things in spirituality or multiple personality disorders or schizophrenia.
Well, or even stranger things, Doctor, like an apparition or a ghost or teleportation.
You know, something that to us is magic.
I mean, if something manifests itself.
And believe me, I am in touch with some of the top researchers in the nation, like the Bigelow people.
I'm sure you've heard of them, and they've got a ranch, and they've done some really incredibly tight scientific work documenting things that are just simply, absolutely, totally can't be.
They're anomalous, and yet they've got documentation of them.
Now, mightn't some of these weird things have answers when your work matures?
I think what we're looking at, too, we look at some of these things.
Like we talk about the telekinesis, the teleportation, all the other things you mentioned.
And we keep them separate sometimes from the analytical science.
What's interesting is I think sometimes they're complementary.
Neither one can be comprehended in the other right now, nor can either of them be reduced to the other.
But kind of both of them are necessary, both of them are true, and both of them have a foundation.
But I think what this is leading to is eventually there will be a common bridge and a common scientific model that will tie together a lot of the ideas held within spirituality and this other research like being done by Bigelow and the people sitting there in the quantum physics labs.
I think eventually we'll see a new model of the universe that will tie to that.
As a matter of fact, there's a gentleman I just met, I was in Europe about four weeks ago, a gentleman by the name of Mihai Dragonescu.
He works at the Romanian Academy in Bucharest.
And he has a theory that there's no such thing as matter and space and time.
There is only information and energy.
And universes are spun off of this.
And he has done a tremendous amount of work.
And he addresses within his theory not only issues that address with the hard issues of analytical physics and science, but it also transcends into spirituality and teleportation and other things.
And it's a single model that bridges all this together.
you've heard kaku talk haven't you about the bubble the theory of a bubble the universe of that sort of a bubble of But an informational kind of thing that you just talked about, in essence.
Actually, right now, in terms of gravity, we see no, if you're talking about physical observed gravity with regards to weight and other issues, we don't see any effect, any change whatsoever.
What we do see, though, Joshua, is I mentioned to you that, well, I just mentioned just earlier that we saw, there seems to be an unknown source of energy.
And what we believe it might be possibly due to is some type of quantum gravity that we don't understand or some type of, perhaps I'll use the word a little bit differently, microgravity.
Obviously, the effects that we're producing within our time warp field are due to are more in line with the models of general relativity that talks about how mass and gravity can warp space and time.
And that's what we're seeing more than anything else.
And we believe that there is a gravity effect, But not anything that would be more of a weight issue.
It's more of a boundary layer issue.
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Okay, one other question.
Is there a connection to your research to torsion field research?
If a clock, on top of its value as a clock for the kind of research you're doing in that field, were placed on a scale, something I'm sure you've done, you see no difference.
But we do believe in the boundary layer that we do believe, though, in the boundary layer, that the time rate divergence that we create is due to more general relativistic laws.
And we also feel that that might have some play in why we're seeing energy within the field that we're not injecting into it.
Theoretically, if the object is moving into the future or moving into the future, misconception, is that I'm going to go back and use a simpler example.
If we look at special relativity, let's talk about the twin, the astronaut who flies off to a distant star and returns.
She did not travel into the future.
She experienced an accelerated time rate or a decelerated time rate, I should say, with regards to the person left behind.
With that said, is that those types of things, like some people have said, when you slow down time, wouldn't that another common misconception is that astronaut who's traveling to the distant star, her time rate slows so much, wouldn't that mean that her temperature would slow down and the temperature would go to absolute zero and she would die?
The answer is no.
I mean, the laws of special relativity and general relativity really wouldn't allow that.
But like I said, Mike brings up such a wonderful point.
It might be worth a try just to know what is or isn't.
Well, you would be obviously creating such a large field that electromagnetic reception would be compromised anyway, so I don't know if you'd get a good experiment.
Can be either expressed in space, atoms, or opinions.
That's for you, Art.
And I got a question for the doctor.
In the EMR radiation spectrum, you got ionizing radiation, which is X-rays, UVs, visual, and non-ionizing radiation, which is radio, microwave, and DDTs.
And even in the non-ionizing frequency, you know, ELF is 100 hertz frequency down to 10, you know, which will attack and rupture the organic molecules in the human cells.
I'm just curious, what frequency are you testing in?
Yeah, what's interesting, as I mentioned before, though, Scott, is that the frequency that we use, or just the fact that we're inducing the rotational electromagnetic field, is important for stability, but it's not a key fundamental thing.
The other place where frequency plays a role, as I mentioned, was in the Dopplering effect on whatever we place inside the field and what's outside the field, when it passes through the boundary layer, how it gets dopplered up or down.
Did I answer your question, Scott?
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Yeah, well, theoretically, would time travel be able to let you get eight hours of sleep in four hours?
If time travel were possible, I understand this calls for speculation on your part, but I just thought about this.
If time travel were possible and we could go truly into the past, and you did a very safe experiment And took somebody who had just died and moved them into the past, would we have in the past a dead body or an animated body?
I would say the alternative would be to go back before that person died, then pick them up, and then take them into the past to give them more time.
I think again, I think what all the relativistic effects that have ever been tested since the 1960s all show that that type of effect wouldn't happen.
A dead body taken back would be dead.
But if you went back before the death, picked up that person and took them back, then you would have obviously given them perhaps more time, depending on why they died.
Or moving toward one of your hoped-for applications, you might move back in time and find the person had a weakened artery wall that was about to kill them.
And or did kill them in a certain time, and move back and after the autopsy, go back and medically repair that before the horrible accident.
I called to comment about the relationship of space to time, but may I say one thing before that?
I was so happy to hear Dr. Anderson talk about the fact that he thought we exist in a sort of a false reality because that is exactly what the Ascended Masters teach.
They are the higher spiritual beings.
They say we do live in a false reality, and they say in reality there really is no space or time.
But with that said, speaking of space and time, a long time ago, many years ago, it occurred to me that space has some kind of a relationship to time.
And it seems that I've proved it to myself over the years.
If I live in very close, very small quarters with a lot of things around me, especially if they're not kept in good order, etc., I find I'm very, very limited in my time.
Then when I have more space and larger quarters and I don't have so many material things around me, I seem to have very, very much more time.
And I think that probably affects everybody that way and they haven't realized it.
Jason, you're going to have to yell at us a little.
You're not too loud.
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Okay.
Hi, Art.
My question for Dr. Anderson is, with your time alteration experiments, have you ever attempted these experiments with the clock mechanism shielded in like a metal ball, something that would completely isolate it from the electromagnetic field that you're generating, but still placing it within the boundary layer?
And would you have any measurable time dilation effects under those conditions?
We've used a number of different materials with a lot of different, I guess I'll say, characteristics, with different permeability and permittivity from metals to synthetics and other things.
And we have seen no effect as a result of having a clock inside a shield, which was interesting to us.
We weren't sure exactly what to expect.
When we finally got the field size larger, we were able to run those experiments, and we have not seen any detriment to having everything within the shell of the boundary layer is affected to the time rate divergent.
The other one that I would ask is if you have a light source outside of the transition region and it reflects or it passes through the boundary region, reflects off of the object and then comes back out, the Doppler shift to the transition should be linear in both directions.
Is there any polarization effects?
You mentioned it darkening, but is there any other blurring effects or things of that nature in light that bounces off of the object?
This conversation gets a little complicated because when the object we put inside the field has a light source, and many times we do that, we put a light source within the field with the object in the reference equipment that we're using, that light source and the light that it's reflecting off the object and out is Dopplered out.
Going into the field, what's interesting, you talk about light sources.
If you think about this for a minute, we have a laser array of 12 lasers firing into this field.
And when the Doppler rate is accelerated, when the frequency is accelerated as light passes into the field, we have exactly what you say.
And we really haven't looked at, like for instance, the laser ambient light as it goes into the field coming out and any polarization effects.
It really hasn't been anything.
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Well, that would be coherent light, so it should be pretty easy to notice any effects that that would cause.
I was just wondering if it might be like a blurring effect, like heat distortion, like you'd see on a desert road.
The only reason I really ask that is that over the years there's been a number of photographs taken of UFOs, and a lot of these photographs, some of them are blurry, and I mean a lot of it you could write off to just camera work.
But if some of these blurring effects was like a Faraday rotation or some sort of magnetic dichloric response, then maybe there's a parallel between some sort of UFO propulsion mechanism and what you're working with.
When you talk about the blurring, and this is going to be different, I'm not necessarily saying what you're saying supports what we're seeing here.
But the boundary layer is not, I mean, it's not a purely linear and stable at every range where we experiment and test.
When we have a light source inside the field and we're looking at an object, there is some blurring, but I don't think it would be similar to the same effect that you're bringing up.
The field is very stable from accelerating to 300% and slowing down time rates down to about 15%.
But here's the issue.
What we really want to do is, and we've done it, we've gone down to a zero time rate and tried to approach a negative time rate with inside the field.
And as we do that, though, as we get to 10% of the reference time rate, which again is the rate at which time passes outside of the field, we have an instability where the boundary layer starts not collapsing, but it enlarges or shrinks to the core of the field.
And that's a problem.
If we ever want to be able to regress disease, we have to solve that problem.
I have absolutely on that unexplained power that we're seeing, we know it's there.
Either, put it this way, we know a couple things.
We either know that, again, what we're seeing is when we create a field, the power we're providing isn't enough to keep it open.
So we either have equipment that's in error, which we've ruled out, or the laws of physics are wrong, which we don't think they are, or there's a power source coming from within the field, and you're very well right.
Maybe it's coming from the power that we're injecting at other times into the field ourselves and not from another universe.
Doctor, have you ever, in a wild moment, wondered, sitting in the lab, whether one day you might get a knock at the door, and there is an old gray Dr. Anderson saying, you want a quantum leap?
I don't give a lot of thought to it, but at times it does cross the mind.
And the other question maybe I can anticipate, a lot of people say if you ever do expand the technology to a point a human can step inside and go anywhere, where would you go in time?
Is there any reason why that couldn't happen that you can imagine?
In other words, as we imagine the power that you can't account for, perhaps coming from other experiments you have performed in the same rough place a year or two years or ten years from now, then we might also imagine the possibility of in other words, could it happen?
Could you come back providing yourself a quantum leap in technology, or would that be disallowed with what we understand or think we might know about the nature of time?
That's the one that's used to, that's the one Stephen Hawking uses in his chronology protection conjecture that we talked about earlier.
He says his rationale for belief that there is time travel is impossible because we're not overwhelmed with time travel.
One of the most common views is that, and Frank Tipler holds to this, is that when the first time machine that a human is built, he won't be able to go back any further than the day in time that the time machine was first constructed.
And I don't believe that.
You know, who knows?
Perhaps it's explained through some of the theories of parallel universes and hyperspace.
Another one is the parallel universe theory that says if you go back and alter the timeline, the original timeline continues, but a parallel timeline branches off.
So that you would change an event, and events would continue in that timeline based on that change kind of like on a separate highway, but the original highway would continue on as, unchanged.
I believe, personally, I believe that the use of animals for testing, provided it is for a greater good, be it for animals or people or otherwise, is reckless use of animals for scientific testing is something that just isn't very politically.
The biggest reason why I'm sensitive to it, Art, is I don't have strong feelings along that line.
But what I don't want to see is our research and advancing our research to become a political movement or issue.
And if we try to test on living animals too quickly and we had a mishap, it could really affect us politically and it really could literally affect our real research.
The answer is I have the audio tapes and the plastic is still wrapped around them, so in timeline they achieve time travel, but one of the very difficult side effects of it turn out to be something called transcription errors.
In other words, some of the people who are incorrectly sent through time and return end up, for example, they do an MRI on the person.
And a blood vessel that should be connected in an ongoing stream, as blood vessels are, suddenly is disjointed by a quarter of an inch or an eighth of an inch with obvious horrible effects.
Yeah, I think I'm honestly, and I think the whole team here is really less sensitive to that.
Again, in the case of relativity theory and its application, anything that's experiencing a relativistic effect, provided it's not caught in, let's call it like a boundary layer, you're not going to have that type of problem.
As a matter of fact, there's a really interesting article in Scientific American about quantum teleportation this month, and it talks about this as a possible risk.
I think the biggest question we have that we can't seem to get our arms around is, and it's not critical to our research right now, but we want an answer, is if we send an object back into time and we slow time rates and we accelerate time rates and we're moving these objects forward, and we expand this to include a living animal or person, we don't see a risk of transcription errors, but what we see is an unanswered question.
And that question is, if we move a poor person forward into time or backward into time someday, does their soul go with them?
Maybe souls are automatically installed in bodies wherever they may be.
The same or another one.
Who knows?
Interesting.
All right.
Anyway, listen.
Here's somebody who wants to know, how much power reduction to achieve the results you're getting are you achieving compared to the theory of what it should be?
In other words, how much percentage-wise, how much power are we talking about here?
When we do our estimates, the amount of power we're injecting into the field is only, I'm going to say roughly, depending on the specific experiment, but it's roughly about 70%.
Depending on where we're at in terms of accelerating, where we are in terms of what time rate we're trying to accelerate or decelerate to, it varies slightly.
But on average, it's right around 70%.
But there is a variance, to answer your question, Jeff.
Please ask Dr. Anderson from John and Auburn, Alabama, if he knows about the Einstein Gravity Probe B, a spacecraft designed to test how the Earth's mass warps space-time.
Seems to me this $70 million over budget project by NASA is attempting to test something that has already been proven.
If deceased spirits are in fact existent at a higher or faster frequency, could they potentially be seen by placing a camera inside your field and speeding up time inside the field?
Still, though, it might prove conclusively we're always after this chasing this life after death thing and whether there is an existence after death.
And I'm not sure it would prove that, but if you saw entities of a different sort, you would indeed be proving that there is an existence at a faster or higher frequency that we simply cannot perceive presently.
You know, it's interesting because when you talk about some of your professional acquaintances who are studying the ability of the human mind as a time machine, what's interesting is we know that from special relativity from Einstein that a body that approaches or travels near the speed of light essentially transcends time.
The future becomes the past and time dilates and you see all that effect.
You also look at it though and you say, well, let's look at the human mind.
How does it work?
The human mind is an energy-mediated process.
It works off of energy that travels very near the speed of light.
Is it possible that the human mind is a time machine?
But even more importantly, what you brought up, Art, what happens in death?
What happens to the energy in the human mind?
And the energy is released.
Does that energy Stay?
Does it dematerialize?
Or when an object dematerializes and you die, does that mean you move into a plane of different energy?
There's a whole bunch of theories out there that we get hit with every now and then.
I mentioned to you Bob Bigelow, and he's got a ranch at a place that I don't talk about.
I'm sure you've heard about it.
And somebody observed, using night vision equipment, the oddest thing, one of the scientists there actually saw a kind of a whole form defined, it was defined by light, by a circle of light, and saw a creature or a thing or something come through and then saw that disappear.
Well, you know, you asked me the question just before the break about, and I'll tell you, I'm not going to say that this is my view, but there's some very interesting ties.
A lot of people ask us the question after our technical presentations.
Stephen says, may have missed it earlier, but what happens to objects that enter or leave the time warp field or pass through the boundary layer while the apparatus is turned on?
For example, what would happen if you fired a shot from a gun of some kind into the field?
Well, that shot, obviously, the time rate slows down, and you would see the physical effects of that.
Again, remember the window that we're working in, we've accelerated time rates in the field to 300%, and we've decelerated it down to about, successfully down to about 13%.
And you will see, when you put a material object through the field, you'll see the physical effects of it as if it was moving faster through time.
If you put a living object through the boundary layer, it would be a very bad thing.
As a matter of fact, when we start our experiments, we always initiate the field and then put the object in the field before we adjust the time rate divergence.
Well, it depends on how high we have the time rate divergence tune.
Here's what happens.
Say I was to take my hand and I was to place it inside the field.
Why it was modulated so there was a time rate divergence.
So say that the time was, let me think about the time was greatly accelerated in the field.
The heat within my hand would be Dopplered up to higher heat, higher energy, which would essentially, depending on where we were, either have a mild effect or have the effect of destroying the living tissue in my hand.
Can you explain on a very simple model level, like take a single atom?
What do those three things do to the protons, neutrons, and electrons to a single atom?
How does that, how does the or does the effect happen totally outside of the atom like the space around the atom, like maybe the zero-point field or some other field of energy, a sea of energy around us?
I think it's the same example, and I always fall back to it because it's an easier example, the twin paradox.
That twin traveling in a high-speed spaceship is experiencing a relativistic effect within the object that is traveling at that high speed.
And it's the same within our time-warp field.
Anything within that boundary layer is seeing a relativistic effect.
It's more of a relativistic effect than a quantum effect.
unidentified
Can you explain what the three components do to the space theoretically around inside the field?
What do the lasers and the gas and the rotating electromagnetic field actually do theoretically to the space around or to the sea of energy around the object?
You started, but it continues, and you're simply modulating it with the lasers or sustaining it to some degree with the lasers, but not the majority of the power.
Sir, could you tell me, have you heard of Dr. Thomas Van Flandren's work?
I've recently read an article in Internet Energy Magazine where he talks about basically the speed of gravity seems to be infinite.
And the article was very I could almost really understand it without getting into the technical details of what he was talking about, but it really made a lot of sense.
And how the gravity might be connected with this and Townsend T. Brown and his work with capacitors.
Is there anything to do with capacitance with your experiment?
I don't honestly believe there's anything to do with capacitance.
And I'm familiar with a lot of the models that you might be referring to.
With regards to what Dr. Flanders is doing and saying in gravity, Tyd, I believe that what we're seeing in our boundary layer is more of a general relativistic effect than anything else, which means it's dealing with gravity.
It's dealing with either quantum gravity or microgravity, but it's dealing with gravity.
unidentified
To me, it's a fantastic idea that everything is connected on a non-local basis.
And the whole point about Van Flandern's work, that gravity seems to be instantaneous.
Like if you shove a board in one end, it moves instantaneously on the other end.
What do you think that says about the universe and reality itself?
Well, that one word is, I can tell that you're very familiar with the subject, that one word, non-local.
This is a major revelation in the last four years that the bottom line is it's been theorized, but now it's been proven that a particle, every particle in the universe or a particle on one end of the universe, if touched, the effect could be felt at another particle instantaneously on the other side of the universe, even if it meant the distance was required faster than light travel.
unidentified
Had you heard about a book titled The Holographic Universe and how the idea that the universe basically you can cut a hologram picture into infinite number of little pieces and each little piece would still have that same image on it.
And it basically says in every point in the universe, you can keep breaking it down.
Every little segment of the universe has all the time, all the knowledge that's ever happened and ever will happen in every single space.
It's almost like, to me, it's almost like they're grasping it at the point where it seems like they're discovering God almost.
Because I happen to believe that there is a God, but I think there's a personality behind it, that its force.
What's interesting is when you look at it, like the Elaine Aspect experiments that came out of France that showed that this connection, a faster-than-light connection between information and energy in the universe truly does exist.
Think about it, though.
Look at the Navajo Indians and look at some of the Buddhists and Taoists who have been preaching this for 2,000 years.
Are we simply rediscovering ancient wisdom?
Are we just a bit stupid and all of a sudden we're finally starting to get a little more informed and knowledgeable or are we really seeing something different?
unidentified
I just recently read an article that talked about how there's these microtubules in the brain, in every cell, the neurons.
And these are crystalline protein structures.
And the basic theory is that these things more or less surf along or on top of this field of energy that's all around us, maybe I think, this God consciousness.
And that they're almost discovering how maybe man and God can be connected in the physical realm via the mind, and maybe perhaps these things are in a whole body.
But it's really amazing, some of the things I've been reading lately.
And if I could ask you a favor, the last thing you mentioned about the tubular structures, if there's any way you could email me some information, I know a few people here, including myself, who would really love to study that a little bit more.
Here's a question that I'm not sure I should answer or ask you because I'm not sure if it's a proper question.
But it's from JT in Dallas.
Hey, Art.
I'm dying to know the answer to this question.
If you were to put a transformer or Verostat into this machine or field with a constant current going in and then have the output coming outside of the field, as you speed up or slow down time, would the voltage change?
In other words, if you increase time, does the voltage or amperage increase accordingly?
Imagine turning a milliwatt into a 110-volt house current instantly.
But when you make that circuit, you're making a loop.
And the conservation of energy does apply in that specific model.
I'm not saying it applies everywhere, but again, if he makes that circuit from a transformer inside the field, running out, looping out, it has to loop back in to close the circuit.
And so you see the effect of the Doppler effect leaving the field and coming back in, or vice versa.
Well, I'm sure we should have got this on earlier, but if you would like to email Dr. Anderson, it is simple.
It's D as a dog, but not dog-like.
D Anderson at time-travel.com.
And I'd like to also remind you that if you would like to read more about all of this, and I'm sure you would, we've got a link on our website right now at www.artbell.com or www.coastocoastam.com.
All right, once again, Dr. David Anderson, Dr. Wow, this non-local effect that you were discussing a few moments ago, which suggests, I guess, that if something happens to a molecule here 30 light years away, a molecule would be affected in a similar way instantly, virtually instantly.
It began with an experiment called the ASPEC Experiments in Paris, France.
It's the first scientific experiment that suggests through scientific evidence, hard scientific evidence, that the world truly, the universe truly is a dynamic web of energy that's inseparable, all connected, and all that, everything that communicates faster than the speed of light, which is very interesting concept.
I have heard a number of people describe the only possibility for travel faster than light, or virtually instant travel, would be I've had it described to me this way.
You take a piece of paper, Just a long piece of paper, and you imagine a little ant trying to get from one end of the paper to the other, and the little ant would take quite a while to get from one end to the other.
On the other hand, if you fold the paper in half, then the ant just crawls over the edge and virtually has arrived from point A to B instantly.
But that's not quite what we're talking about, is it?
It's an obviously very important question, considering that at present rates of usage, all the fossil fuels will be gone in another 40, 45 years, whatever.
Well, you know, what's interesting is the whole team here is we have a few passions.
One of our passions is the application of our time warp field technology in the medical application.
The other two passions we have are to explore the use of the boundary layer characteristics as a power source.
The other one is we would like to explore the possibility of the technology for supercomputer applications, basically meaning let's put a supercomputer inside an accelerated time warp field and have it process faster.
But unfortunately, we can't get funding for the latter two.
Once again, you've done a show that only you can do, I think.
And I'm sorry to hear that you won't be here very much longer for us, but I'm sure you'll do the best you can to not hurt us as far as the quality of your excellent program.
Thank you.
A question for you, Dr. Anderson.
I'm one of those poorly educated persons that does have a scientific curiosity, and I've been recently the last three years or so indulging myself in scaring the hell out of my cat and neighbors with doing some capacitive discharge and microwave RF plasma generation experiments.
And I'm familiar, pretty thoroughly familiar with the anomalous energy effects that happen when you get down to using high energy fields or having high energy events.
I was just wondering one question, if you can answer it or not.
Is your field generator an extension of the work done by William Hooper?
If you're familiar with him, he did work on what he called the rotational field generators.
He did a mechanical one that had coils and magnets.
He also did an all-electric one that was just like a specially wound coil.
Yeah, I'm a little bit familiar with his work, not completely, but again, what I'd say is that no, the answer to your question is no, it's not based on his work.
And maybe even more importantly, the rotational magnetic field we induce, we believe at least, and then again from the number of callers that are asking the question, I'm beginning to wonder, but we believe that it's important, but mostly for a stability issue, and it's not at the core of what we're using to create the material.
unidentified
It's a container relic, pretty much so.
Another question I had, and I know this is getting into the area of epistemology, actually, because I think a lot of the problems I have, and maybe other listeners as well have, with understanding a lot of the concepts being discussed, is that we have Newtonian definitions for quantum answers that we're getting to the questions that we ask, such as time travel.
And to me, to my understanding, I don't see how people can separate the space component of the continuum when they talk about time travel.
For instance, Art asks, is there anything that you've speculated that may be an insurmountable obstacle as far as the future possibility of actual transporting something or an entity or a living person through time to the past or to the future?
And the problem that I see with that is that what is going to be your reference point?
I mean, for example, if you were to actually send something physically back in time just one hour ago, you'd also have to move it through the spatial component of the space-time continuum to have it re-exist or instantaneously exist on the same place on the Earth.
Like the Earth is rotating 1,000 miles an hour on its axis.
It's got its orbital velocity, and then the entire galaxy is rotating, and then the local cluster is moving towards Virgo supercluster at millions of times.
There's two different ways to respond to that question.
Actually, there were a couple questions in there.
The first one is, if you were talking about a special relativistic effect, the answer is yes.
When you traveled forward into time or you returned, you would obviously be at a reference point in the universe where the earth no longer is because it's moving and spinning and so on.
When you look at general relativistic effects, we're not talking about speed and motion.
We're talking about exposure to gravity.
And we're talking about motion that doesn't have to be linear, long, straight-line flights at extremely high speeds.
So there is a subtle difference.
One of the things is obviously that you bring up one point that we look at, and we haven't got there yet, but we see, obviously, once we build, expand this time control capability, and let's call it someday we do have a time machine.
It's not a time machine.
It's also a space travel machine.
And then those types of issues become a question.
But right now our focus is, I think, as Art put it, we're walking before we run.
I think I would probably use the both words could be applied, but if I was going to be real picky, I'd probably say space travel, extremely high-speed space travel.
I'm not sure I'm not so sure if I would necessarily agree with that.
I do, like I said, I've spent way too much time living in the world of math and physics and analytical science, so it's hard for me to talk about some of the other questions.
But I firmly believe, with my little bit of experience in more of the metaphysical side and the human studying of the human mind, that we will see achievement of time travel and other types of capability in the human mind using the human mind.
At the same time, we're seeing more hardware scientific vehicles.
But I mean, if the theory that the universe is an informational construct would be accurate, then perhaps a quantum computer could move around in it very easily.
It might save on the battery, but every time I make a phone call, people are always like, you know, you've got throat cancer or something.
So, you know, I do apologize in advance.
Dr. Anderson, you mentioned Weiwei a couple hours ago, which is why I called you, that you were mentioning somebody who, Dr. Mihai Drakanescu, and I was wondering if you could give me a little more information because I'm actually going to be in Bucharest on Sunday.
I was just wondering maybe, you know, like where he worked or how I could get a hold of just, you know, just go and see what he's up to, that kind of thing.
If you're on Bucca, out of the blue, it just surprised me because I'm actually going to be there in just a couple of days.
So I was just wondering what you were doing there.
There's a gentleman that I'm working with who's an expert in chaos theory there.
I also met with Mr. Dragonescu to talk with him about some of his work and some other projects.
unidentified
Well, that sounds good.
The other question I had, which you basically already answered, was about how everybody here is focusing on the time and the travel and all that kind of stuff.
But when I was sitting there and you mentioned that you were getting more energy than you expected, in other words, you're getting more energy than you were putting in, I had to say, you know, isn't that sort of like the foundation of a perpetual energy machine or something, just because you're getting more out than you were putting in?
That's one of the questions that we've been unable to obtain funding on right now to pursue.
But you said it well, Art, is that when we initiate the field, the energy we're applying is less than what we should have to apply to keep it open.
So like I said earlier, I think either there's an energy source that is providing that missing energy to maintain the field the way the laws of physics say it must be maintained, or the laws of physics are wrong.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Anderson.
Good morning.
unidentified
Yes.
Do I understand correctly that when you have the field in the slowdown mode, that light going in would be blue shifted, I mean red-shifted and light coming out is blue-shifted?
Yeah, the way it works is if the time rate is accelerated inside the time warp field, the light moving out is the frequency is lowered, whereas light coming in is increased.
And if the time rate inside the field is decelerated lower than the reference time rate outside of the field, it's obviously opposite.
unidentified
Yes.
Well, all this reminds me, for some reason, of descriptions of what's supposed to happen on a spaceship traveling close to the speed of light.
In the case of an object traveling fast, you will see red and blue shift.
And you see red and blue shift from light emanating from stars.
And we use that to try to determine speed and relative position of distant stars.
And that's a common thing done in astrophysics.
The fact that an object traveling fast near the speed of light really doesn't have as much bearing on that redshift, blue shift.
The fact that it's moving, and if you were to bounce a signal off it, or if it was to emanate a signal, then yes, that signal would be redshifted or blue shifted, but it's not necessarily that speed that's required to dilate the time.
Again, within the time warp field, we're seeing more of a general relativistic effect based on some characteristic of gravity.
Actually, it's a real pleasure to be with you, Art.
And as many other viewers have said, I wish you tremendous amounts of success and good health and happiness in whatever you decide to pursue.
Thank you.
The only thing I could say is a lot of people ask me when I speak about our research why they should believe a word I say and why they should believe a word that anybody says about space and time.
And the answer is I always give is they shouldn't.
Keep an open mind, study.
One of the best things, if I can put in a plug, is we sponsor as part of one of our side efforts an organization called the Time Travel Research Association.
It offers a free membership.
It has a simple goal.
It networks thousands of people from multiple countries around the world with a single goal to advance the study and development of time and time travel.
And it doesn't matter whether it's from the perspective of spirituality, mathematics, physics, metaphysics, art, poetry.
If it has to do with time and time travel, this is a wonderful association.
And you can really meet and network with a lot of really talented people.
And again, that's something that comes from our heart.
We really just want to make this information available and free for everybody to study.
And it's available and free on our website at www.time-travel.com.
Well, let me answer that question in an interesting way.
The answer is yes.
We actually have a space-time, well, I won't call it a library, it's our archive here.
We now have more than 10,000 items we've collected that cover from science fiction movies, books, manuscripts, clocks, anything that has to do with the study of time and time travel.
And even more so, our video collection.
I won't say it's the largest in the world, but we've probably got about 500 or 600 time travel movies in our archives from different countries as well as the U.S. And one of our big hopes is that early next year we're going to open up a space-time museum out here on Long Island dedicated to the sharing of that information.