Beverly Jaegers, a former skeptic turned remote viewing expert, debunks innate psychic claims, citing her $2M coffee futures prediction in 1981 and U.S. PSI Squad’s verified crime-solving—like pinpointing Bowman’s victim within 36 hours—while collaborating with 500+ law enforcement agencies. She links Soviet-era HCA research to financial forecasting and archaeology, like identifying Cahokia Mounds artifacts, but warns free will limits disaster prevention despite cases like NASA’s O-ring flaw. Callers question viral detection via remote viewing, emotional control over precognitive signals, and electromagnetic suppression, while Jaegers insists daily life is the biggest inhibitor. A Westchester caller reveals a 1999-flagged nuclear spill at Indian Point 2, contradicting earlier dismissals, and Bell teases unresolved mysteries—from Jean-Bonet Ramsey’s murder to CNN’s debated "demonic" debate footage—suggesting humanity’s consciousness transcends physical limits. [Automatically generated summary]
We had last hour and considered the state of the world and politics and what's happened with McCain, all the rest of it.
And this hour, we're going to be joined by Beverly Jaggers.
And she's one of the big names in the world in things paranormal.
And a lot of people have been urging me to have her on, so she's coming up in a moment.
Bev Jaggers.
Cry scratching your head a little bit.
Do I know that name?
Well, if not, you will.
The End All right, well, this is kind of interesting, just before Bev here.
23 Feb 2000 geomagnetic activity has subsided after an interplanetary shock front passed Earth February 20th.
The reprieve will be very short-lived, though, because a large coronal hole is rotating across the sun's central meridian.
High-speed solar wind particles from this hole will likely collide with Earth's atmosphere and trigger yet more geomagnetic activity, including aurora later this week.
So the sun is really doing its thing up there.
Now, Beverly Jaggers, this was the facts, or actually email, I guess, that finally propelled me into getting her on the air.
A lot of people wrote to me and said, you've got to get her on.
It says, the person who wrote this said Beverly got into this field as a skeptic and was soon proving to herself that something is in fact going on with the whole paranormal phenomenon.
Since that time, she has self-taught herself psychic skills, formed the group U.S. psych, PSI squad.
It's important to note that she says she has no natural psychic skills, but instead has trained herself to be able to access these areas in her mind.
And she's presently involved with teaching others how to do what she has done.
They were working very hard on all of those things.
And in fact, it was apparently in reaction to what they thought we were doing in this country that it heated up so much in the 60s and ended up in the press.
As you know, I've probably interviewed most of the people involved in the U.S. remote viewing program, at least the ones who have decided to become public.
And if they were able to kill with the mind, then our CIA and NSA and whoever the real spooks are, they'd be all over that like flies on you know what.
Because they'd love to do that kind of thing.
And if it looks like a heart attack, smells like a heart attack, and is autopsied like a heart attack, you don't have a better weapon than that.
Yeah, but you look at the work going on at Princeton, and it makes sense that it would work.
Because if you, with a human mind, can influence a random number generator, which they have proven, I think conclusively at Princeton, then there is every reason to imagine that you could do other influencing at greater levels as you became more proficient.
That is how Guri Geller, or why Urey Geller was originally recruited for the program, because he was purported to be able to do effects like that, not magically.
And as it, I don't know what occurred, but he apparently wasn't able to do what they thought he could do.
And he was originally recruited by one of the astronaut corps.
They say, if you were to use this power, say they, in that way, cosmically, ultimately, it wouldn't work out, that there's some sort of karmic price to pay for greedily using your ability to find out what's going to happen on the NASDAQ or the Dow the next day or the next week and or to any single company or something like that.
And that the great moral and ethical code of the cosmos won't allow that to occur.
Alan recorded my voice, and he took it to a NASA engineer, Fred Kolb, that apparently Steve was working with this engineer.
What they were doing was we hadn't flown the shuttle, and they wanted to know whether there were going to be any problems with it, with the program.
And so they came, he sent Alan to Atlanta with this envelope, and this is what came down.
So they stored it because it didn't have, I said it wasn't going to be the first shuttle, it was going to be a later shuttle.
So they put it into the archives of the Mobius group, and when Challenger went down, it just verified the prediction.
So a little while later, Time Wife called me and they said they were going to put this into a book.
And at the time, I wasn't sure what I'd said.
And so I asked for Alan's number and they gave it to me and I called him and he said, everything I told him is 100% that because I have your voice saying so on tape.
And the date was March 15, 81.
That was five years before the O-wing thing occurred.
And when I took it, I started seeing these weird bushes with red berries and people picking them and there weren't too many and they were all dried up.
And I didn't know what I was seeing.
So I looked at him and he was grinning from ear to ear.
And he said, just go right on.
He was a Texan.
And so I did that.
And when I got finished, I said, well, it looks like a crop's going to fail.
I don't know what that could have to do with business.
And then he told me that he was a futures investor.
And I didn't know futures from food times at the time.
But I understood that if he bought them at today's price, if the crop failed, then he should make some money.
But I had had practically hysterics waiting for him to get his multi-million in, and I just, I didn't want to be responsible for somebody else's money.
Mine, that's different.
Then I bought a contract for myself in Lubber Futures, and he said, oh, that's silly.
They're downsizing cars.
That's going to be just a disaster.
It tripled in a couple of weeks, and I bought it out, and I built myself a new kitchen.
So then, again, circling back to where I was, this stuff about there being some moral imperative not to use psychic power for these kinds of things is baloney, basically.
And for nine years, I've been doing a thing for a gentleman in New York who does a newsletter called Financial Foresight.
He has me run the Dow for each month of the following year, and he has sent out a letter all over Heaven Gone that I have a 90 percentile correct ratio on that.
I have heard from a number of remote viewers that have worked with the police that they really can't stand doing that kind of work because you literally have to live that crime, that you literally remote view that crime and that takes so much out of you to do.
I suppose it would vary depending on individuals, but to have to remote view a crime like that.
Most of the ones I met did, and I knew a lot of them.
I mean, a lot of them handled it in okay ways, and they blew off steam in okay ways, but it was getting to them.
And it got to me.
I mean, when you see the way people treat each other and terrible crimes all the time, it's a very myopic view of humanity, and it tends to make you kind of cynical after a while about humanity.
Yeah, it's not exactly hardening, but amongst the police officers that are in the squad who've been trained to use ESP, when you get past that hard exterior, you find the kindest, nicest people You'd ever hope to know.
So in other words, whatever police department this is, and we won't say, I guess, it doesn't matter.
Very serious crime involving a police officer's life.
And they called you not as a last resort, but as a first resort.
Now, most Americans think that psychics are only called in on cases that the police can't solve, been working on for a long time, have no leads, nothing to go on whatsoever.
Then they pick up the telephone and call somebody like you.
So in other words, when the emotions are strong and they apparently fade after the event, to some degree, when they're stronger, then the information gleaned is stronger.
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Oh, I love you.
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I want to talk to you for the you objected to the word psychic, and I kind of don't blame you.
I mean, most Americans' exposure to psychics is late-night TV, where they've got three or four girls sitting around, you know, and the screen says certified psychics.
I always wondered what that was, how you get certified as a psychic.
And they would always proclaim things to people on the phone, like, you were with another woman last night, weren't you?
And you hear a click, you know, and that's supposed to be the proof.
And so I suppose that's the image that you're fighting all the time when people use that word, huh?
So the difference between the sexes extends itself even to what you're likely to read, which means that you're reading from your, to some degree, from your own perspective, something I thought that everybody tried to eliminate in doing this kind of sensitive receiving.
We've handled several, but this one was most interesting, and it involved the whole squad eventually.
A young girl was kidnapped from a neighboring community in Illinois, and the chief of police telephoned me the very next day and said that she hadn't gotten home the night before from a school flight and that they were quite worried about what might have happened to her.
So I told him what I would need, and he sent a detective over with a picture of the girl and her jacket that she hadn't worn that night.
It was kind of warm.
And from that, I could tell that she had been kidnapped, raped, and murdered, and the body was discarded like an old glove.
And so we didn't like to hear that, and of course neither did I. But that was the fact.
So I asked him to bring over a utility company map, which is big scale.
One town is huge.
So following down that map, I got a hotspot and I made an X with a circle in it.
And I gave it back to the officer, and he went back, and it was late in the evening when we did that.
The next morning, she was found exactly where the X was.
And they sent a car to bring me over to the site immediately, as soon as they'd taken the body away.
To find out more, I had a sketch of the individual.
He had long sideburns like Elvis Presley.
And his name began with a B. And then they asked me where he lived.
And I indicated an area in the town and then they let me have the socks that had been on the body to take back to the squad.
And the next thing that was done was that I told him that he was an individual who'd done something similar to that before.
He was going to do it again, but they would catch him in the commission of one of these crimes.
About a week later, he took a girl out of a drive-up window in a bank, and the officer in charge of that didn't want to work with the squad.
So we had to work under the counter with Chief Beale, who had called us in on the first girl.
And about two weeks later, after they found the second body, he took another girl out of a laundromat.
But she got away.
And she remembered enough of the license plate to describe this individual who was then picked up and thrown in jail.
And then the chief, seeing the resemblances, went in and they leaned on him just a little bit, and he eventually admitted that he had committed all of those other crimes.
Well, you know, Beverly, I guess once you're established, it's fine.
But if I was a cop, if I was a homicide detective, and you were actually able to take a map and put an X where the body would be found the next day, I would consider you a prime suspect.
It's a terrible thing to say, but it would be an automatic thing for any detective who would have some doubts about the ability of a sensitive like yourself.
And yet when you called it and he saw it, the detective in him would say, there's no way in hell she knew either she really is as sensitive as she claims, or she has something to do with this crime.
That's why I did not stay a dispatcher in Monterey County, because I kept taking it home with me.
I couldn't stop thinking about it.
You know, if somebody was killed, no matter how good a job you do in getting the response there and the rest of it, it weighs so heavily on you, and you sit and you dissect whether you did the right thing, whether if you'd done something else, you could have saved somebody's life.
Too much responsibility, way too much responsibility, Beverly.
Well, it does happen to people that would like to be part of the group, and for that very reason, they may drop out because they can't handle that kind of thing.
And it carries you.
You don't sleep, you don't eat until you've got something you can give them.
And once you have acquired that ability, now let's talk about, I guess you're saying that everybody has the ability to learn if they want to, to do what you do.
And yet there are natural sensitives, aren't there?
When I met him with Suzelle Turman, oh, goodness sake, Alex Tannis and Ingo and Ron Warmuth.
And there were so many of them.
But Ron eventually came to realize that he, too, had been trained by his mother, who used to give him envelopes with photographs in them, which is a training technique he came to use.
And Ingo never was forthcoming about how he started.
Well, you know there are people who make their living tasting coffee or smelling perfume that can tell you exactly what went into it, what field it came from, what year it was bottled.
The government has a whole crew of people who do the same thing to tell you where their food is tainted.
So that's an extension of the natural sense.
I believe that ESP should be extended Sensory perception, not extra.
We don't feel it's anything extra at all.
I've never found anybody I couldn't train and I prefer to teach.
People like policemen, pilots.
A pilot will tell you, no matter how complex the instrumentation, he flies by the seat of his pants.
I would imagine it would be invaluable to use, to have a homicide detective trained to be a sensitive and use that along with all his other learned abilities as a police officer, a detective, right?
One of the members of the squad, who is chief of police, told me and the whole gang recently that he had been informed that there was a bomb threat in his district and he was ordered to evacuate a hospital and a college X number of blocks around the site.
And I wanted to take the first part of the program tonight To give you some idea of how much of the real McCoy she really is.
And now I've got some questions for her that relate, I guess, to the periphery of what she does, but very, very important questions to me, and I know as well to many of you.
I've got a whole bunch of questions I want to ask you about.
Since with the abilities that every human has, if they nurture them and learn, you can look in through time, then the obvious question is whether you can use this ability to prevent something that would occur that would be negative.
Or are we all sort of marionettes dancing to somebody's string and what's going to happen is going to happen?
Actually, it was my mother that was the person who she was driving past the kindergarten when the kids were getting out of school, and my youngest followed the car, and of course it's grandma-grandma, into the street.
And my mother said to the day she died that she doesn't know how the oncoming car missed that child.
I can only credit the fact that we asked that it not be as seen.
Tomorrow night, I'm going to do what I've done for years every now and then.
And I just devote a night.
I don't have a guest.
I just take calls.
And all I do is take ghost stories from the audience.
And let me tell you, the lines boil.
And the stories are really serious.
And they're really scary as a result of that.
And so it makes obviously for great programming.
But Beverly, I have been, I've wanted to know about, it obviously goes to whether we have a life or a continued existence of some form of consciousness after we physically die.
And these ghost stories would seem to say that, oh, you bet we don't just end when we physically expire, that there is something else out there.
And that's why I view these stories as very important.
And I wonder, from what you've seen as sensitive, whether you have any comment on that.
Yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about, Bev.
Well, I will have a full night tomorrow night of stories just like that from millions of people if they could get through.
As many as can get through.
Yes.
And you just can't listen to hours and hours of these credible people telling these credible stories without believing there must be, there has to be something.
Well, I suppose if you wanted to use it that way, but there's so many interesting things to do here that I don't guess we'll ever run out of something new to something that we love.
Okay, we were at the CRV conference last March and there was a gentleman there who was a reporter editor for Popular Science magazine.
He was extremely skeptical, but he was there to cover it for his magazine.
Well, one evening, I believe it was Saturday evening after the banquet, he accompanied me to sit in front of the rowing fire in the lodge, and he was telling me that he wasn't sure what he believed about any of this.
So I happened to have my briefcase with me, and I opened it up, and I took out a Ziploc bag full of mud.
And I handed it to the man, and he said, wait a minute, what's this?
And I said, I want you to tell me about that.
And he said, but I'm here to study people like you.
I have permission, by the way, to tell this story.
So I insisted that he take the bag, hold it in his left hand, and tell me about it.
Finally, he began by saying East of the Mississippi.
And he continued to tell me very evidential details about an ancient civilization, Aboriginal-type people building and living in a very, very prehistory type of civilization.
Now, every time he said something, I told him correct.
Finally, I think his eyes were as big as teacups.
And he asked me where the sample had come from.
And I told him that it had come from Cahokia Mounds, Illinois, which is one of the largest prehistoric areas in this country.
And one of Lynn Buchanan's young remote viewers watching this said, do you have anything else in there that doesn't come from there?
So I handed him the rock, and he continued just the same way, writing down all of his impressions, which all turned out to be good, involving the Revolutionary War and a very sylvan place with trees and water.
And when he got all finished, we told him where the rock had come from, which was Walden Pond, where Thoreau had written his book.
Now, it turned out that I didn't know near as much about Walden Pond as the reporter did, and it is a Revolutionary War battlefield.
So here we have the skeptic sitting next to a trained remote viewer, not trained by me, and they turn in a job like that.
And this is the joy of the kind of teaching that I do.
They assumed that somehow someone with the world's greatest eidetic memory could have memorized every coordinate on the face of the globe so that they could conceivably keep it.
Which, of course, is ridiculous.
However, because of that, they quit using coordinate members in that way.
So, what we're going to do is open the phone lines here in a moment and let you ask her whatever you want.
One exception.
We are not doing readings.
In other words, this is not the psychic hotline you're tuned into tonight.
Oh, no individual readings, but any questions you have of the nature that I've been asking or about doing this or doing what she does, whether it's you doing it or others doing it, that kind of question, all of those are absolutely welcome.
I'm listening to you on Art Bill right now in Vancouver, B.C., and I'm wondering if you've heard that 27 Eastside Vancouver women, all prostitutes, all addicted to drugs, have disappeared without a trace.
It occurred between 1995 and January of 1999.
There have been no clues.
Since January of 99, none have disappeared.
But a friend of his, and he names her, I won't give the name on the air, is among the missing.
It's a good place to start looking at that up to 10%.
Psychometry, the science of touch.
This goes into hard targets.
We like hard targets.
That's something to hold on to.
The socks from the dead girl, the rock, the baggie full of mud from Cahokia Mounds, dinosaur bones when that's what's wanted, samples from a dig someplace in the world when they want to know something about archaeology.
There has to be some spark there to initiate the question.
And I mean, we don't just go casting about wildly for things to look at.
I see.
When we heard, when Harold Terran let us know that he had done a Mars scan before the Mars lander went off, we repeated it here and coordinated, we were working on the same project in two different places because he was in Arkansas.
And we did our own scan, and they were so similar, you'd almost think the same person had written them.
Why I'm calling is I'm interested in knowing how to do this, and for the reasons that I'm a college student, a biochemistry major, and I'm interested in biological functions.
And so do you see that there could be a relationship that would help with my studies?
I mean, would it give me some sort of insight on where to search and maybe how to detect viruses and diseases?
Would it be beneficial for me to sort of use it as something in my studies?
Yeah, let's face it, if it would give you in your career a really serious edge, it might not be something that you would talk about with your colleagues or those who are presently teaching you.
You wouldn't talk about it, but you would sure as heck use it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How would that go about, you know, learning how to do this?
So then the wider experience of an intuitive is a valuable thing to an intuitive.
In other words, a formal education in all kinds of different areas about anatomy and a little bit of everything would be helpful in the wide field of work that you do.
Boy, I wonder if that's the kind of skill that a bomb expert would want to have.
You know, I can only relate to the movies, you know, where finally they're down to cutting the red wire or the blue wire.
You see the dyke's hovering over the red wire, you know, and he's going to cut it, and then second, he goes for the blue wire, and the bomb doesn't go off.
Listening to you earlier tonight, you were talking about the truck drivers and the fuel prices and all that.
I'm one of those guys who's barely making it.
I just wondered if you had any more insight or if Beverly has Any insight into what she thinks the government's going to do about that.
I've got three trucks, and one of them is parked right now, and the other two are on the way to being parked because, well, I can't make it, and drivers that are driving for me can't make it.
You know, it's scary, you know, looking at an overall implication in the whole economy.
And it kind of ties in with the cataclysmic effect, you know.
Okay, when you say sunshine through the clouds, by that do you mean that the government will take some action or that the prices will simply of their own accord fall?
Well, originally I was going to ask about that, but I figured that some of it couldn't be from man because they've been seeing it since the beginning of time.
We were asked to look into the UFO flap at Piedmont Missouri, and we saw the vehicle, or whatever you would like to term it, and bounced some energy off it to see whether there would be an intelligence inside, and nothing bounced.
That actually is a really, really good question, and we'll ask it when we get back.
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Every night I hope and pray A dream lover will come my way Girls will hold in my arms Know the magic of her charms Cause I want girls to call my own I want a dream lover so I don't have to dream alone Dream
lover, where are you?
With love, oh so dream lover And I can't wait tonight.
She has only whispered so quiet for conversation.
She's coming in from heavy flights.
The moon that brings me fast stars that darken towards our anation.
I stopped to know them all the way, hoping to find some forgotten words for ancient man.
You turn to me as if to say, pretty boy, it's waiting there for you.
You're going to take your life to take me away from you.
It doesn't matter a hundred men or more than what I do.
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Had you known what was occurring, you would have known that that was one of the little warnings that we discussed earlier with my child in the car, and you would have gone out and moved the car.
Look, people who are listening tonight, they're going to think I've got a head bigger than the moon, and that we are omniscient, and we know every answer there ever was.
And that is not the case.
We are people with jobs, with children, with families, with paychecks, with bills.
And these are not putting us in the category of McHugh, Kaku, or anybody like that who really knows something.
We have honed a skill that everybody has and are using it for what we consider extremely important things.
But it doesn't mean that we're anything other than the person next to us on the bus.
One of them is that I have, my boyfriend is very interested in Russia.
He spends a lot of time over there.
And I'm wondering if I go to visit Russia with him, which is fairly likely in the pretty near future, if it's something that I should look into over there, if there's still sort of, I mean, I don't know where or who you talk to over there, but sort of what if this is still something that is taught over there or if I can find information.
The other question that I had is you mentioned briefly sort of maybe kind of honing in on these intuitions.
And I guess my question is, I know that I've had a number of points in my life where I've had very strong intuitions about something.
And oftentimes maybe about a person or about a situation that's extremely bad, and I tend to pay close attention to those things.
And I never really know if I'm overreacting to a situation.
And he found that his sensitivities were greatly heightened.
My question, Beverly, is do you think there's something natural or man-made that might be inhibiting our psychic abilities on Earth that we have to work through?
And so the question was, is there anything about the fact that we are earthbound with gravity, with conditions here on Earth, that inhibit it or that might be enhanced by leaving it?
But another thing that bothered is that all of the TV channels seem to be running back-to-back specials on death, doom, and disaster.
And this creates a mindset where if you have this bend into your head all the time, consistently, you're going to be looking behind yourself every minute to see something creeping up on you.
And we think it creates a very unhealthy state of mind.
And what he did say, believe me, was that they had had control groups of Christians and Buddhists and other religions praying for patience with 100% and better outcomes, improvements in outcomes, for those who were prayed for.
no delineation between whether it was a christian or a buddhist or anything else no i don't think there is an if there is a creator he does not wear a certain church on his arm all right well listen beverly it has been some kind of joy having you on the air this morning again if you would please give out your website address okay it's uh www.usisquad.com that's uspsi
All right, Open Lines, and anything you would like to talk about certainly is fair game, including the results of the political race yesterday, which I thought was amazing and a very happy event for me, John McCain winning both Michigan and Arizona.
So, anything from that to a millionaire?
You've been watching.
How many of the rest of you are junkies for that?
I certainly am.
There's going to be four nights of it this week.
Who wants to be a millionaire?
And I like Regis, and I like the show, and I'm stuck on it, and I admit it.
And I think that I'm part of a very large group in this country right now.
You know what I'm collecting, though?
I'm collecting the goofs that they make.
Mike 21 had a big mistake the other day.
Who Wants to Marry a Millionaires had a couple.
And I've been collecting them.
They're being very, very ultra careful, as you might imagine, to avoid any hint of impropriety because of what happened the last time.
America did go, believe me, I was there.
The $64,000 question.
I remember.
Then they did a movie on it called Quiz Show about the quiz shows.
It was a mania.
And you're experiencing it again.
Maybe all that is old is new.
But America is now experiencing this whole mania again.
And it's kind of interesting.
This time they're going to try and be really careful.
But despite all that, things still happen.
These quiz shows, it's really something to watch.
And I'm not sure what exactly what the attraction is.
You know, most television leaves me cold.
Most of the whipped-up for TV comedies and the whipped-up dramas, they mostly leave me cold.
I don't watch.
But somehow, I did watch Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, and I got hooked on that and 21.
And I got so manic about it that I even began to watch Winning Lines for a while.
And I thought, man, that's one tough show.
And of course, it's going off, and I think I can see why watching it, but I still watched it.
I ran across something that I think you might get a kick out of.
I get the MUFON subscription, the local here in Tampa.
And they have little cartoons with jokes in them sometimes.
Well, there's this one little cartoon.
Now, she had facts to you, but it shows this real fat lady in her bathrobe heading into her living room, and she stops, and she's holding her cup of coffee, and the caption says, oh my God, they're back.
And then it says at the bottom, the return of the carpet circles.
And in her living room, it says crop circles with a carpet.
In other words, yes, there was a release of some radioactive material or gas emission, but there is no danger, and all radiation counts close to the reactor are normal.
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Well, that's what the national news media has been reporting.
Given its proximity to New York City, this nuclear power facility is only about 40 miles from Midtown Manhattan.
According to a county spokesperson, this was the first level two alert they've had in the 26-year history of this facility.
Now, that's two steps below China syndrome.
A couple of interesting things came out in the local media.
According to published reports, the National Nuclear Regulatory Commission knew about potential problems with these pipes in September of 1999, but did nothing to shut down the plant.
And also, and you'll love this, the day before this accident took place, the president of the New York Power Authority held a major news conference announcing a tentative sale of the Indian Point 2 facility.
The thing I want to call about, it was a while ago.
I was going back to your archives, and you did a program, I don't remember the date, about a strange weather phenomenon happening in close proximity to military bases.
And it involved very strange, perfect circles observed in NEX-RAD, with NEXRAD radar, in precipitation of one sort or another.
In other words, the radar seemed to be seeing something in addition to or illuminated by or reflected by, I don't know the right way to put it, something that was going on in the atmosphere, yes.
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Has there been any more developments with that?
I was just kind of curious.
I printed out a picture off the website and I got out a roadmap.
And I looked at it real close and I did find that there was either a major city or a large military base right by or directly over those circles.
the people that talked about that didn't fare very well.
Now, it could have been coincidental, but two or three people that talked about that topic asked me, I don't know, I don't And I am not saying that there is a direct relationship because I cannot prove that, but I can tell you that it seemed like more than just a coincidence.
Again, unless every time we have somebody on who is a remote viewer, and that's what Beverly is, a sensitive and intuitive, a remote viewer, if you must, a psychic, I don't know.
They're Just words.
People call up and say, ask about this specific thing or that specific thing.
These are projects that take a whole team to do, as I'm sure you've heard from other remote viewers.
So it might have been a project that she took on, who knows?
Or perhaps, because of your call, she will.
But we tried not to ask about specifics like that.
And if you'll listen tomorrow night, by the time it's over, you won't have any doubts.
It's a really, really important topic on top of being really scary to listen to, and some people like it just for that part alone.
And it is scary.
It's a proof, if you listen carefully, that we exist beyond the physical.
And that's why I do those programs.
I think that's why they're so popular.
I don't know.
It seems such a universal thing that people like you experience things like that associated with death.
That so many times we get stories of people who have just passed giving signals.
I know, I know you can argue sometimes, or you can try, that, well, it's just a human mind grieving.
But what did the man who was just on the line have to grieve about that night?
Or is he just connecting an event and a weird feeling with something that occurred the next day, creating his own sort of coincidence?
I don't know.
But I definitely lean toward the side that what you're going to hear tomorrow night, and you've heard on other shows like it, is simply as real in its own way as the life that we lead consciously right now.
It's a very interesting show to hear for a variety of reasons.
And the chief in my mind being that if there is something that comes after this life, this is one of the definite areas of proof that is before us if we listen.
And if you listen, tonight you will come away convinced that we are more than our physical selves because the evidence is really quite strong.
I thought, when I saw that show, I thought, man, cheesy, really a cheesy show.
How are they ever going to pull that off without it looking really cheesy?
And I thought it was going to be a disaster.
And of course it has turned into one now.
But the show itself was rather...
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Well, when you see a bunch of women parading up and answering questions and bikinis and all this, it's no better than going into an auction of a bunch of cattle.
I mean, you know, if they were just cattle, you'd be looking at their teeth, and I guess judging their weight and trying to figure out whether they'd have tender steaks or tough steaks or whatever.
That is what to do with a woman.
I mean, I grant you it was pretty surface stuff, but I don't know, it was an intriguing concept that turned out to be a total disaster.
But you had a few, oh, probably a month or two ago, you had a woman on there that was your guest that was talking about the Antichrist and all that.
I can't remember what her name was, but she claimed that she let the dog out in the middle of the night and he was standing in the front yard and all that.
Hey, three weeks ago, I don't know if you heard anybody from Phoenix, because that guy's doing that court case here about the UFOs, but on the local Fox 10 news channel, one of the pilots that had been called to intersect that object on March 13th, They had a pilot on?
Now, if there were not a giant tax attached that they could remove, particularly, you know, with the surplus budget that we've got right now, they can afford to do that.
And so, as a short-term measure, they damn well ought to do it and do it quickly so that there's not a big problem in this country over truckings.
It's just that simple.
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Oh, I've got a lot of buddies that had their trucks repo ready and everything.
You know, it's a couple more months and this crap is going to hit the fan, you know.
Actually, it's probably got one of the biggest reach signals of any commercial broadcast station in the U.S. I guess there would be a lot of argument about that, but Ph.D. is definitely, I would say, would be among the top four contenders for the biggest signal.
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Yeah, it really comes in clear.
I know there's not a lot of time, but quickly, the last time I spoke to you was, I hate to bring it up, a couple years ago, and it was the night that you unfortunately went outside to take your usual break, not realizing there was a four-foot drop.
That particular night, I had mentioned that the way I found out about your program was through a book which was written by Mark Nissler and Chuck Eastman.
But the fact of the matter is, in order for that to come across to you, the listener, I would like to point out, it is not necessary to be jumping all over somebody.
In fact, when you just do it calmly and reasonably, then the message couldn't come through stronger, as evidenced by your call just now.
Right.
All right.
So now you understand a little bit of why I interview in the manner that I do.