Ed Dames, a former U.S. government remote viewer, debunks alien explanations for pilots’ 1999 Texas sightings of three ultra-bright, radar-silent lights—dimming in sync at 38,000 feet—calling them electro-hydrodynamic vehicles (ion-propelled prototypes like Aurora). He also claims Egypt Air Flight 990’s 1999 crash stemmed from a violent cockpit altercation, not mechanical failure, and insists interdimensional "angels" prevent nuclear war by manipulating events. Dames’ rigorous remote viewing, including his own death and "Satan" as a non-physical entity influencing mass predestination, reveals hidden forces—yet governments remain oblivious to their role. His warnings about solar storms as potential "kill shots" and nuclear terrorism threats from undetected "stay-behind devices" underscore a shadowy interplay between advanced tech, unseen entities, and global instability. [Automatically generated summary]
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We are going to make radio history tonight.
Never before have major airline pilots come forward publicly, particularly not just one crew, but members of two separate airliners, airline crews and airline companies that saw the same thing in roughly the same place at the same time,
and the FAA controller who tried to see it from the ground.
All of that is coming up tonight, and we're going to probably cut a little into Ed Dames' time to accomplish all of this, and I've already spoken to him about it.
Ed Dames, who is a technical remote viewer, has looked at this particular incident that you're going to hear about tonight, and we'll have comments on that, as well as what brought down flight 990, Egypt Air Flight 990.
He's going to be looking at that as well, has looked at that, I should say, and will have the results for you at a whole lot.
This could be a wild night.
We really will make radio history.
As far as I know, this has never, ever been done before.
After tonight, it may never be done again.
I don't know.
So that's what's directly ahead.
Buckle in and get ready.
All right, by the way, everybody, the sun is absolutely going nuts up there.
We have a rounded sunspot count right now of 340.
And so I'm getting on HF.
And that means HF radio, shortwave, every day, 29.6 FM.
29.6 FM.
I got on today, and it was a blast talking to people just all over the country.
So I'll be on again tomorrow during the day, 29.6 FM.
You might look for me.
I am W60BD.
And it's a blast on FM.
Now, we're not going to worry about the time tonight.
We're just going to sort of let things flow and go as they are.
I want to get it all in.
I don't want to leave anything out.
We're about to go to Peter Davenport at the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington.
And we have a lot of very serious, jaw-dropping stuff to get to you tonight, followed by a dames.
So, and then your jaw will simply drop off.
So, without further ado, welcome to Seattle, Washington and the National UFO Reporting Center with some really big ones tonight.
Here is Peter Davenport.
Peter, welcome to the program.
Thank you, Art.
Greetings from Seattle.
Once again, boy, am I looking forward to this program tonight.
This is the type of, I know we've done a lot of programs together, but I think this is going to be a very, very interesting one for our listeners.
You know, as I was sitting here during the first part of the program listening, it occurred to me that if we're not careful, there's going to be a rating system imposed on radio programs before we know it.
I know.
I've thought that about my program, Peter, for a long time now.
They're going to get me.
But that's all right.
Until then, I'll have fun.
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I have similar concerns every once in a while, but it occurs to me that we may have a few listeners who, to get through these UFO programs, may need a sedative or two, whether prescribed by their physician or their favorite bartender, I don't know.
But tonight's program, if they're going to sit through this one, they might want to make sure they have a refill on that prescription and a designated driver, because I think we've put together a pretty good program.
We have a very distinguished guest standing by, but I would like to take just a minute to share with our listeners what we might be talking about later in the program.
This morning at 8 a.m. Central Standard Time, the FAA had a report from two executive jet pilots.
And what I'd like to do is play a very short audio clip.
It's only about 15, 16 seconds long, to share with our listeners tonight what my wake-up call was at 0622 this morning.
This was a report from Kansas City Center reporting what one of their air traffic controllers received from two executive jets.
One was at 39,000 feet, the other at 37,000 feet over southeastern Missouri, just about 60 miles south of St. Louis, Missouri, my birthplace.
This is what was reported to us at 0620 hours this morning.
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Here we go.
I've had two aircraft report a UFO sighting on frequency this morning, and I can only give you a brief description of what they saw.
Just to set the theme for what happened back on the 26th of October, I would like to set the theme with a cut.
This is actual FAA footage, and I'd like to preface by saying we would not have this tape if it were not for the gentleman whose voice we're about to hear in a few minutes on his day off driving an hour into his workplace, straightening things out that I'd succeeded in getting bollocksed up and getting this tape to us today.
I really can't say enough fine things about the support and the help and the assistance that we've gotten from the FAA.
This is the gentleman that we are going to call Joe, who works for the, is an FAA air traffic controller, correct?
He prefers the covert name Joe tonight, air traffic controller.
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Let me play the radio reports that came in from two airliners on the morning of the 26th of October.
I think everybody will understand that, but understand this is, folks, over the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
They have a center, and this is what was reported to them on the morning of the 26th of October.
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Here we go.
Alright.
It appeared at 11 o'clock, and we don't know the distance, but 11 o'clock, and we've gone out there.
I think probably in a bit of maybe 20 miles or so.
Formation of airplanes planning out there on 84 games.
It's not like lightning UFO reports, but I think I've seen it like that before we saw 11 o'clock for no one knows how far 50, maybe 50, 100 miles away, but three very bright lights.
Looks like you went out left time.
And then the lights appeared, and then it disappeared.
Any killing back out there or something like that?
Where would I get another light sign on our issue or something like that?
Well, there are only two exacts out there, but we don't have anybody in light.
And I would know about that.
And about 314, I'm telling you some interesting timing tell you, but that's probably just some kind of anomaly.
I don't believe there's any impact out there about actually 11, 12 o'clock, maybe 10 miles.
Anyways, I'm not losing it, because Pope Paul and I both saw it, and I was to tell you, it was very odd.
We don't see any strokes or anything.
Usually I'm afraid the lights were far enough apart that leads me to believe that the airplanes were closer than COVID.
and usually after the headlights turn away or the landing lights turn away, the agency strokes or something, but we don't see anything out there.
Can you see it?
It's a plane, isn't it?
It's a plane at three, isn't it?
It's a plane at three, and at first glance I would have thought it was a heavy fuel operation, but generally they don't happen this time of the morning, and If it was a heavy fueling operation, and those airplanes were a formation, I was the one back in the plant.
The lights were far enough apart that it would lead me to believe that even in a new formation or even a lighter formation, they would be explosive to us.
If you don't sleep with Team Roger, you mean they would altitude with the air next up, but our altitude how far the light is up a thousand feet.
Don't sleep with Team Roger.
I can't remember if anybody in the altitude's totally.
Yeah, thank you.
So we're here, Roger.
Sir, that's three lights, that's five minutes ago.
But I'm sure that first gentleman, whose voice we're going to hear here in a few minutes after the bottom of the hour, was pleased to hear that somebody else had seen those things in his airspace.
But what I would like to do is go to our special guest tonight, Joe, the FAA air traffic controller, who was standing in Fort Worth Center when all of this took place.
And why don't we listen to what he has to report he heard that morning.
In those 11 years, Joe, how frequently do you get something like we're talking about tonight that everybody's hearing?
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Well, I have never heard it before, but asking around, nearly everyone has heard it at one time or another.
It seems like the actual controller that you heard on the tape there mentioned that he had the same thing happen to him last year at almost the same place.
Does it usually get any farther than you or your supervisor, does it normally get to a national UFO reporting center or does it usually, more times than not, stop before that?
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It usually doesn't go any further than comments on it.
I haven't ever heard of anyone really wanting to push it, report it like that.
Well, they have when we were looking for some way to report it, we've never had this come up before, and the pilots indicated they wanted to report it, the watch supervisor came up with the number to the National UFO Reporting Center.
And right as he was walking up, I was thinking, boy, I wish I knew the number to that UFO reporting center.
But a relevant question here is, I'm really curious, is there any official way that you can, within the government itself, begin to take a report like this to a higher level or any reason to or any provision for doing that or not?
What I'd like to do is ask you and Peter to hold on for a moment.
We'll take a break here at the bottom of the hour.
I know we are running a little late, and we're going to do that in this instance because I want to be sure to get it all, all the information on the air for you.
I'm Mark Bell.
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I won't run, not that deep.
I've got to find out the win to be free again.
And I've got nothing wrong with you.
Don't make me win on the bottom.
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When my skin is upbeat, I travel the world and I've never seen everybody looking for something, something wants you.
Some of them want me to find you.
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And we really are going to make radio history tonight because we're reporting one of those.
Actually, two very brave men, and I really don't loosely use that, are coming forward, pilot and a co-pilot, both major airlines driving the heavies, you know, the big ones, both had a sighting.
You heard the tape and you're going to hear it again.
We're going to have them on at the top of the hour.
In the meantime, we're going to chat a little more with this wonderful gentleman we call Joe, who is an air traffic controller in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
All of that coming up, and there's a lot to it.
And then following that, of course, at Dame.
So it's going to be quite a night.
All right, once again, Peter Davenport at the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington, and our FAA controller from the Dallas-Fort Worth area, who we are calling Joe.
I mean, this one could have slipped through the cracks just as easily as any other and sort of gone nowhere, certainly not to a UFO reporting center.
So that must mean that you want this information out.
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Well, first of all, the pilot indicated they were going to report it.
They were pretty, I've never adamant, yes.
I've never heard them that adamant about wanting, well, I've heard them that before when there's an incident of some kind, and that's about how they sounded.
They wanted to turn it in, and all I initially called for was, I believe you played that tape a couple of weeks ago, I heard, was just to set the scene a little bit for Peter when he got the call from the pilot so he'd have a little better idea of the scenario that he was going to hear.
Actually, as I think back to it, the first call we took on this was from the pilot, actually the co-pilot from Southern Airlines.
We're calling them tonight.
After he landed, he gave us a call from the Florida area, and he was the first one to check in.
And he left no doubt in my mind but what he wanted to report that incident.
It was very unusual.
And it leads me to a question, Joe.
You know, there are a lot of hardware that flies in our skies, covert, military, and so on.
Can you share with our listeners, is there any possibility that a military aircraft or some kind of intelligence platform would have been flying in that airspace on that morning without strobes, without radio, without a transponder, and would not show up on radar?
What's your read on that one, please?
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Well, you never say never.
They're not supposed to be up there.
We all have secret clearances, and we're supposed to be able to keep that kind of stuff secret.
I mean, if they're up there, we're supposed to know about it, especially at those altitudes where the airliners are at.
Are you allowed, Joe, to know how to identify them or simply that they are going to be in the area?
I don't want to ask you anything classified, but obviously they probably don't run with transponders if they're over airline.
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They should have a transponder or in some sort of large warning area or a military operating area, and then we can just miss the area and they can do what they want inside the area.
There are large areas like that all over the United States, especially the western half.
Again, don't answer this if it's classified, but we all know that we have stealth aircraft, stealth jets.
It is possible, is it not, that if it were a military stealth aircraft, aside from not assigning some sort of transponder so you know where they are, your other radar would not have picked them up, would it?
Or would it have?
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I'm not real sure about that.
I don't know how well our radar would track self-sider type aircraft.
At any rate, whenever they come through, they have transponders on, as far as I know.
Not too many people, and we're really very thankful to the FAA for their sort of different attitude these days and people like yourself in reporting these things at all.
Things have really changed because there was a day when pilots, you know, for their jobs, really didn't report these things.
The safety factor is the main thing I'm concerned with, and I'm sure the pilots are too.
Something moving that fast, you can't miss it if it doesn't want to be, you know, as fast as the air carriers are, they're not as fast as what they saw.
Yeah, there's some disagreement among the actual eyewitnesses, but certainly one, you're correct, Joe.
Certainly one of the crew members, his impression was that this object was moving very fast, going from their 10 o'clock to their 11.30 position in a relatively short period of time.
But we'll hear more on that subject from the pilots themselves when they come on after the top of the hour.
I'm looking forward to that.
Joe, I really want to thank you for all you've gone through, both in reporting this and, I guess, getting the tape to Peter in time and so forth.
Now, we're going to bring the pilots on, the air crews, at the top of the hour.
So we've got a little bit of time between now and the top of the hour, and I know that you've got a stack of reports there to just sort of catch everybody up before we do that.
What I'd like to do is go back to this incident that occurred over Missouri according to the FAA reports this morning.
This incident to sort of fill in the gaps.
The first tape I played was just the original report that we received.
That was followed by several hours of conversations and investigation and all sorts of things.
Let me, if I may, play about an 81-second cut.
This is an edited conversation I had with a supervisor who was on duty in the Kansas City Center this morning.
And this is what he had to report to us after he'd been briefed on what had been reported by the actual aircraft to Kansas City Center.
This is the conversation I had with a supervisor.
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Here we go.
Good.
Slightly southwest of Farlington, Missouri, a massive contrail and target that says a puff of smoke with a puff of smoke due east.
Thought it was a missile.
The second aircraft at 37,000 feet reported the same traffic on TCAS but no visual.
Position of second aircraft was approaching 270 or 250 radial and 20 miles off of an intersection down there called Welts.
Pilots were pretty energetic, shall we say, about their discussion.
And of course, that's all on tape here at the center.
If they got it on TCAS, the object must have had a transponder.
Well, see, that's what I said.
And the controller selected his alt primary to try to see if he could track it primary or he was getting no return of any sort near these aircraft that were at the visual on this airplane.
Object whatever it was.
He said that, in fact, the one airplane came back to his frequency after he was given another frequency and said, I hope you don't think we're goofy about this and breathing funny oxygen.
But he said, we definitely, everybody in the airplane saw this.
And the guy said, well, no, that other pilot had indicated he'd seen it as well.
What this gentleman was describing, you can almost tell he is reading from handwritten notes that had been given to him by the actual controller who talked to these aircraft.
Man, I'm telling you, Peter, I'm really starting to get the feeling that all of this is breaking wide open and people aren't going to keep their mouths shut anymore.
And this is going to push it.
It's going to push it to the edge, Peter.
Those objects on the 26th of October and then again this morning, Veterans Day, the 11th of November, as far as I know, I'm not a specialist in this field.
The pilots whom we're going to bring on here in a few minutes after the top of the hour are.
I think I will ask them whether they have any possible explanation for why something like this would be at 37,000 feet or so in American airspace unbeknownst to the people on the ground who control those aircraft.
Well, I think that Joe, the FAA controller we just had on, hit it straight on.
If for no other reason, safety, in other words, these guys are worried about who's 1,000 feet or 2,000 feet above them or below them or off to one side or the other.
They all pay very close attention to this kind of thing.
And if there are stray things, big things going really fast, then, you know, we still don't know what brought down 990.
As a matter of fact, we don't really know what brought down 800 for sure.
There is a safety issue here.
It's crossed my mind too, Art.
And I think most of all, the American people, the ladies and gentlemen who are listening to us tonight, who ride those aircraft every day of the week, who have loved ones on them, have a right to know.
They have a right to know.
And the American government has a responsibility to start answering some questions to the American people.
That's my opinion.
Well, that's why I asked Joe whether there was any official channel for him to go through his employer, the federal government, and report this.
And there isn't.
And that concerns me too.
All right, Peter, hold it right there.
We'll be back, and when we are, we're going to make radio history.
Stay right there.
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As I mentioned, we've got two members of two airline crews, both of which saw and reported the same thing.
From the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, once again, here is Peter Davenport.
It happened in the skies over Texas when, Peter?
It was on Tuesday morning, just about a little over two weeks ago, Tuesday morning, 26th of October, 1999.
I think the first call was made at about 02.38 hours on the morning of that Tuesday.
All right.
What I want to do just before bringing them on, and by the way, they have never spoken to each other.
As I called them up, I found out they've never talked to each other, Peter.
So this should be interesting.
That's reflective of how busy these gentlemen are, and it underscores, I think, how grateful I am to them for taking this time out at odd hours to appear on this program.
All right, for those in Chicago who have just joined us, I would like them to have the benefit of the actual FAA tape that you have in your possession with the voices of the people we're about to hear from.
Would you be so kind as to play that again, please?
It's loaded and ready to go.
Again, this is what two flight crews had to report to Fort Worth Center that Tuesday morning, what they saw at their altitude.
Here we go, two minutes, 40 seconds long, about.
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We just got a series of three very bright lights.
It appeared at our 11 o'clock, and we don't know the distance, but 11 o'clock, and it's pretty far out there, I think, probably in the best...
Maybe 20 miles or so.
Four nations airplanes turning out there, you know, 314, something.
I have to go to the CAD lights up before we saw 11 o'clock for no host out fly.
It should be maybe 50, 100 miles away, but see very bright lights.
Look like you went left time.
And then the lights appeared, and now it disappeared.
Everybody could have the lights on to our radio or something like that?
Well, there are going back out there, but we don't have anybody anyway now.
I would tell that.
And L314, I mean, I don't know if anything called you because that's probably just some kind of anomaly.
I don't believe they did anything out there about actually 11, 12 o'clock, maybe 10 miles.
It was Matt Lizard, and I both saw it.
And I was to tell you, it was very odd.
People came on the LPC again.
He said, we don't see any droves or anything usually anyway on the plane.
The lights were far enough apart that easily the place that the airplanes were closer than floated.
And usually after the headlights fly away, or the landing lights turn away, the agency's drove to something, but we don't see anything out there.
Easily with lights in the flight of fleeces and easy.
At first glance, I would have thought it was an ABC operation, but you know, you don't have to this time of the morning.
And it was an ABC operation, and those airplanes were a formation, I would say, one of the actual airplanes.
The lights were flying up apart.
It would lead me to believe that even an inflammation or even a wide inflammation, they would be closer to us.
I don't think we're team Roger, and approximately what else do they have?
That's an output.
I'd say about an hour altitude, you know, plus or minus a couple thousand feet.
L-314, Roger, I would definitely know if anybody in your altitude is there.
Well, it's 92, if you say L-310, yeah.
Yeah, it's 92, but we're seeing a record.
Okay, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.
In what we just heard, Captain, you said at altitude, but you didn't say what altitude.
What altitude roughly were you at?
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We were at 37,000 feet that night, and the three lights that we saw appear to be at least at our altitude and perhaps higher.
It's very difficult to tell even where the tops of storms are at altitude.
And if the storms are any distance from you, because of the curvature of the earth and the speeds we fly, it's sometimes difficult to estimate whether or not you'll clear the top of a storm at altitude.
So it's even more difficult to estimate altitude at night, certainly.
Are you convinced, Captain, that what you saw were three separate aircraft, or is it possible you were seeing one craft of some type?
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Well, I saw the write-up on Mr. Davenport's website, and it implied that there was one object with three lights on it, a sizable object.
That was not my impression.
Having done lots of night air refueling and joined up on one or more tankers in formation who had their lights on, that was my first impression.
It appeared to be a flight of three tankers, if you will, Air Force tankers.
And back in the days when I used to do that, we would often approach each other head-on at altitude, and the tankers would be 1,000 feet higher than we would be.
And they would have other lights illuminated, of course, for visibility to aid us in spotting the tankers for the rejoin.
And then at about 09 miles or so, they would be at co-speed, generally in the neighborhood of 250, 260 knots, and they would start a 180-degree turn, and we would join up behind them.
That is, again, my first impression of what I saw.
Three large transport category airplanes with landing lights on.
However, these lights were, I'd say, 30 to 40 percent brighter than what I was normally used to seeing.
And that led me to believe that these airplanes, if they were in fact airplanes, were closer and certainly close enough for radar to have picked them up.
And when they just turned and disappeared, at 3.30 in the morning my time, or 3.40 in the morning my time, it's something you have a little time to talk about.
So I just thought I'd ask the center what they had out there, just out of curiosity.
You said a left turn.
That's what it appeared like to me.
The co-pilot, and my co-pilot disputed that.
He said that he thought the lights just simply faded as if they were turned down by a reuspend.
Okay, Jose is a co-pilot for what we'll call Southern Airlines, another major airlines, and he flies, you want to tell us the kind of aircraft you fly?
And if not, then they could be at least painted with radar, regular radar.
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Well, you'll have to talk to your traffic control experts about that.
Believe it or not, a lot of the data received by the guys at the center is transmitted by the transponders themselves, which really enhances the target imaging.
Well, that has to do a lot with the between aircraft.
Refueling lights on the bottom coming in on DC-10s, KC-10s, should I say, or 135s, are totally different from this.
From the respect of how far it was, you have your wing lights, which you have on your airliners, and you have them as well on tankers and whatnot, but you never see them this bright.
The bright lights faded all at the same time and consistent with a turn or a left turn of large airplanes.
My question for Jose is, I'm not aware of any fighters that have landing lights that are bright, number one.
Number two, I'm not aware of any fighters, and I could be wrong, it could be my ignorance, but no fighters that I know can turn on their landing lights unless their landing gear is extended.
And if they're 37,000 feet, their true airspeed would be so high that they couldn't extend the landing gear.
So that's what makes me believe it was not any kind of a fighter aircraft.
I agree with you.
They didn't look like anything I've seen.
The first thought we had was there's three F, well, there's three fighters up there torching their afterburners and moving in a fast pace.
And it faded somewhat, but nothing like a fighter would.
There are no aircraft and fighters that I know of that have lights that bright at that altitude.
And if they did, I have no idea why they would have put them on, but because we never did that at altitude.
Well, the two of you, we didn't either, so I have no idea.
Is it likely you would have both seen the lights fade or disappear at the same time?
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We had to have.
I would think so.
Of course, Jose had the additional advantage of being able to see us.
We could not see him because he was kind of behind us, but also gives him some a little bit maybe better perspective on their movement because he had something to compare it to in the sky.
We're talking about something that happened over Texas on the 26th of October at about 0, 238 hours, 2.38 in the morning, I presume local time, about 38,000 feet or so.
We've got two crew members from separate major airline crews.
We're not going to identify the airlines.
One was a Boeing 737-800, brand new, and the other, an Airbus A320.
And once again, along with Peter Davenport, gentlemen, you're back on the air again.
So, Captain Carl, you said that it was very much like a refueling operation, but I guess without a transponder operating, without the air traffic controller being aware of it occurring in the area, it seems unlikely that's what it was, or if it was, then it was irresponsible.
Is that fair?
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Well, I'm not so sure it was irresponsible.
The military does conduct black operations, but the inconsistency there is that they're conducting a black operation.
I'm not sure if there's any obligation to report that to air traffic control, especially at that time of night if they're at sufficiently high altitude.
It wouldn't happen over Dallas.
It wouldn't happen over Dallas, Texas, right.
It would be over the Adriatic, you know, to deal with the Bosni operation or something like that.
You know, we would refuel out there and turn things off.
Well, irresponsible, I guess, is a strong word, but in very busy airspace up at the altitude where you guys fly, it is sort of irresponsible, it seems to me.
So, as you point out, they'd probably be somewhere else.
You seemed very anxious to have this reported.
We talked to Joe, the air traffic controller, and he said you seemed very anxious to have this reported to somebody.
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Well, Joe and I were talking about this while you were on break, and I was interested in what we saw at first, and then I became very interested when I learned from ATC that they had nothing on radar.
And the lights I saw were bright enough that if they were, in fact, tanker aircraft or transport category aircraft, they definitely would have been within 10 miles of us.
And if that were the case, then they would have been, if not talking to the same controller I was talking to, they would have been talking to the guy in the next sector.
And if my memory serves, neither the guy that we talked to or the guy in the next sector, which he checked with on the landline, had anything out there at all.
And I seem to recall, I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I seem to recall that they checked the sector beyond that even in that direction.
In your years of flying, have you seen anything like it before?
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I never have.
I've been doing this for about 31 years now, and I've never seen anything that I could label a UFO or anything that couldn't be explained, at least in some fashion.
And when I called Mr. Davenport the other day, I think one of the first things I said to him is I said, I never thought I'd be calling UFO Reporting Center hotline, you know, because I'm not sure that I believe in these kinds of things, but at the same time, I'm pretty open-minded about just about everything.
And I think there's a lot of things that are possible.
Do you lean more towards the possibility that this was one single object as opposed to three, Jose?
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Yes, I do.
I honestly do because the fact that the formation was so perfect.
As the lights dimmed, you could actually see something, a faint outline between the lights.
If you ask Captain Carl, he'll say that his photo reported the same thing.
Right, my co-pilot said that.
Now, he said that there was an interconnect of some description, and I did not see that.
And I attributed both Jose's comment and my co-pilot's comment to perhaps glare on the windshield or just something in the glass.
Well, myself personally, we had all the lights off, so I cannot contribute that to any glare whatsoever.
I would say there could be a possibility of seeing a faint contrail at that altitude, but to see it in two different axis, should I say, you see it from one light to another and one light to the other, I can't say that.
It's hard to imagine, for example, three aircraft in formation, let's say a military formation, and if they were afterburners, for example, everybody retarding power so precisely that their afterburners would all look the same as they got smaller and shorter.
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Yeah, even the Thunderbirds aren't that good.
No, they're not.
In fact, they'll be over here in actually where the last triangular thing was in Phoenix coming up here this weekend.
Well, both of you gentlemen should know there was an incident over in Missouri in which a couple of, I guess, a Learjet pilot, was it Peter?
Yeah, Lear and a Beach BE-40 pilot.
Both saw something similar to what you saw, go shooting by them and shook them up, but good.
So there's a lot going on in the skies, and you gentlemen are not alone.
But I want to thank you both for coming on.
Is there anything either one of you want to add?
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Go for it, Carl.
No, I would like to hear more from Air Traffic Control just to know how exhaustive or how thorough an after-action investigation they conducted just to see if anybody had any kind of traffic in any other sectors.
The only other explanation I could come up with for what we saw, if there were not three transport category aircraft, would be I'm not sure if this is really possible, and it doesn't seem to be possible on a night like the night we had the other night, but perhaps it was some kind of reflection of actual aircraft that were much, much further away than they appeared off of some layer in the atmosphere that I'm not aware of.
I'm not even sure that's possible.
I've heard like a reverse mirage effect or something like that.
Well, that's kind of interesting to hear that I think it'd be kind of difficult at that time.
Well, the only reason I just discount that theory, I mean, I brought it up because I'm just looking for possibilities, but the reason I discount that theory is because on a nice, clear, cold night like that, I don't think any kind of inversion layer would exist, and the upper altitude winds would certainly destroy it.
But I just have absolutely no other explanation.
And again, the thing that still lingers to pique my curiosity is the fact that we all thought the lights were very bright.
They should have been very close.
And there was nothing on radar at all.
Exactly.
I would go the same way and think with that whole situation, it does awaken me a little bit more.
I never thought I would see anything like that whatsoever.
I've heard people say things, and you're very skeptic about what they say and what you see and what they would do, but you just never know.
And now you fly with a different perspective.
You really do.
You can wake up up there at night, especially at night now.
It might do you both good to know that the air traffic control.
I asked the air traffic controller that we had on in the first hour if there was any official channel for him to report this to within the federal government.
He works for the federal government.
He said no.
There really isn't.
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Right, I think the Air Force dropped Project Blue Book, which was the memory serves, which was the official UFO reporting office, if you will.
And they dropped that some years ago, whether it be for funding or whatever, but they discontinued Operation Blue Book, at least as far as I know, as far as the public is concerned.
Well, gee whiz, if for no other reason than safety, maybe we ought to have it going again if we keep getting these reports with this kind of frequency from people like you.
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Well, the FAA wants to come up with this new program called, what is it, Jose, Free Flight, where everybody's going to be doing their own air traffic controlling.
Excuse me, that makes me a little bit uncomfortable.
I think that's a way to go.
Really?
Well, they seem to think that the technology exists for us to be able to use basically super TCAS to conduct our own air traffic control separation at altitude.
I'm not real keen on that idea.
It would be a long time coming.
Personally, I don't think our union, nor would our airline, go for something like that because there's a lot of factors that go into flying at night.
And yes, it's easy to see lights in the distance.
And transponder or not, you never know how a little electric shock or a little thunderstorm in the area could affect electrics like that.
But I don't know about that.
I wouldn't bet that that's going to be in the making anytime really soon.
And I think properly so, because we do not know what that object was.
We don't know what those three lights were.
Anomalous.
Yes, they were anomalous, but that doesn't mean that they necessarily came from somewhere other than this planet.
I suspect there are a lot of things that our military and our intelligence agencies are working on that I guess conceivably could explain that.
But it comes back to the points that both those gentlemen made, and that is, why would they do it over Dallas?
Why would they be flying in commercial airlines and not be talking to the air traffic control system?
Why would they not show up on radar?
Why do they not have a transponder?
Why are their lights anomalous?
Why do they not have standard lighting systems to alert other aircraft?
I mean, if because of any one of those anomalies, if they bump into somebody up there and cause a disaster, then the people who put it there are on the hook for liability.
Well, the air crew member just said it would be such a terrible waste of space.
Peter, we're out of time.
You're the National UFO Reporting Center.
You are supported by donations.
The address, if you would like to make some, and we would love that, is P.O. Box 45623 University Station, Seattle, Washington.
Zip code 98145.
I'll give that again.
The National UFO Reporting Center.
P.O. Box 45623 University Station, Seattle, Washington, zip code 98145.
And there is an emergency 24-hour hotline.
If something is happening right now, you can call area code 206-722-3000.
That's 206-722-3000, 24 hours a day.
One hell of a report, Peter.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
I'd like to say on those hours, prefer 8 a.m. to midnight, and this has been a 17-hour day for me, so if it's non-emergency tonight, I'd ask that people delay their calls until a later day if they could.
In other words, unless you've got a saucer 20 feet away, Peter wants to get some sleep tonight.
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Unless they're small and gray and I'm your hood ornament.
We only have a couple of moments before the top of the hour, but as many of you know, most of you know, the U.S. government for 20 years conducted with $20 million or more a secret experiment in the ability of the human mind to be able to detect things and objects at a great distance,
the other side of the world, gas canisters in Iraq, what have you.
It was called and is called remote viewing.
And we're about to embark into the world of major Ed Danes.
And so I will warn you, as if the last couple of hours did not, that we're going to be dealing with topics that are pretty far out there.
In fact, in some cases, really far out there.
And so if you have children in the room, I suggest you dispatch them to something more comforting.
If you, even you yourself, are subject to being scared by a prediction.
And I know that Ed would chaff at the word prediction.
It's not prediction as far as Ed is concerned.
It is simply what is seen.
And we'll describe a little bit of that to you as we talk about remote viewing in general.
But what we've got coming up for you is going to be nothing short of absolutely fascinating.
For example, the two pilots that you just heard on, the pilot and co-pilot of different major aircraft flying in the skies over Texas, earlier today, I guess I should tell you, I asked Ed to take a look at this situation for me.
And he has done that, I presume.
He has also looked at Flight 990, Egypt Air Flight 990.
Now, more of a mystery than ever.
The more we find out about this, the more we realize we don't know.
So coming up after the break, it's SciTech's Major Ed Dames, and we're going to cover all kinds of ground.
So be warned, some pretty strange stuff lies directly ahead.
In the meantime, I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
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Well, I'll tell you folks, there's a lot of high weirdness going on out there that we will add to, I guess, tonight.
A couple of quick items.
Ed Dames is coming right up.
Egypt Air.
The mystery of Egypt Air Flight 990 has deepened yet again today after examination flight data recorder indicated that, get this, folks, everything was normal until the autopilot disengaged and the plane suddenly descended.
Ed Prawler, head of the Aeronautics and Astronautics Department of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said a sudden decompression could have occurred from an explosive device gripping a hole in the fuselage.
High seas today halted the search for the plane's other black box, that of the cockpit voice recorder.
And this one really, really is a mystery.
And I'm going to add to that mystery a little bit right now for you.
I was sent the following from the Boston Herald, or at least a copy of the Boston Herald newspaper.
And I would presume somebody who was local to that area, Richard Brokaw is his name, was one of the unfortunate 217 victims of the downing of 990.
And in part, this is what jolted me when I read it, and I immediately passed it naturally on to Richard Hoagland, who has, I believe, the whole thing on his website.
But quoting this article in part, referring to Mr. Brokaw and what he had done in his life, it says, After the war, Mr. Brokaw obtained a Ph.D. in physical chemistry from Princeton University.
He worked, brace yourself, for NASA at the Lewis Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio, where he specialized in combustion research and the physical chemistry of high-temperature gases.
In 1972, he was awarded the NASA Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement.
He retired in 1973 as director of the Division of Physics and Chemistry after 22 years, 22 years with NASA.
And he was on flight 990, Egypt Air 990, for some reason, we don't yet know why, on his way to Egypt.
And we thought we should pass that information on to you.
And I know Richard on his website has a more detailed recitation of the Boston Herald article that I sent him earlier today.
But that definitely caught my attention.
And you can certainly imagine it caught Richard's.
Coming up in a moment, SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
All right, all right, all right.
Here comes somebody who is actually involved in the U.S. government remote viewing program.
He's in the private sector now.
He heads a company called SciTech.
He is now based not in California where he was, but as he told us he would do, somewhere in the Hawaiian Islands.
Technical remote viewing is a pretty good problem-solving tool.
And it's rapid.
In cases like this, anybody with intermediate skills in TRV could solve a problem like this in about an hour and a half or two hours.
So I did look at it, but I wanted good target reference material.
I went to Peter Davenport's website, and I downloaded the little paragraph on that October 26 incident.
And so I looked at this anomaly.
Now, when I target something like this, our brain is an oscillator, and our unconscious mind has access to all things as patterns of information.
But I need to turn my unconscious attention to the right target so that I can objectify the data into my conscious awareness in terms of words or sketches and make sure I'm on the right target.
So I don't necessarily call this an unidentified object.
I don't assume in my business that what is there, what meets the eye, is real.
It could be an artifact in the brains of the observer pilots, for instance, and not an object at all.
Using Peter Davenport's report, because that's important.
That way, this chain of custody, his mind, his consciousness, is focused on the pilot's report.
Gotcha.
They observe something that they called an anomaly, and I use Peter Davenport's report, so this chain of custody, so to speak, at the unconscious level.
So the Air Force, 15, almost 20 years ago now, was looking at new modes, new modalities of propulsion, advanced propulsion, and the idea of using a propellant that gets used up in the atmosphere was really even 20 years ago beginning to be considered primordial.
So surfaces, electrohydrostatic surfaces, were one of the options that were thought about as an advanced aircraft.
I use the term aircraft loosely.
The way this works, I think you're familiar somewhat with the concept.
It's an advanced propulsion vehicle, and it converts electrical energy into kinetic energy.
And it has to be done and finessed in a very fine way, similar to a Porsche engine.
If it's not tuned exactly right, it doesn't run at all.
So what this craft does, I'll call it a craft, it's a manned Vehicle.
There's a complement of two in it, a pilot, co-pilot.
It is a delta-shaped wing, and the lights that the pilots are reporting are actually ionized surfaces.
And instead of a jet engine, you have an ionized surface that changes the hydrostatic pressure in this dielectric media called air.
It pulses a positive and negative charge outward, and this thing pulls itself along by its bootstraps electromagnetically through the atmosphere.
All right, well, I've got somebody who has faxed the following.
And they wonder, though, even though it was a little later time-wise, which I know with remote viewing, time is the most difficult timelines, most difficult thing to assess.
So this person says, you know what, I think Ed was right.
Look at this West Nile fever, so-called, that emerged where?
In New York in September.
And we've done a lot on the West Nile thing, and there's a very strong probability, Ed, that it was a manufactured virus.
The people, the scientists that Lynn Molten Howe talked to said it's either one of two things, a natural mutation or a man-made mutation, the West Nile virus.
In fact, I remember Nightline, Ted Coppel's Nightline a few weeks ago had an entire scenario that matched my report on your show about the potential use of anthrax on a subway or a stadium.
The reason that was released is to decompress the public because intelligence agencies really know that something like that is in the offing.
We're going to see these what was called orphan diseases in the past because they were subtropical being carried into temperate climes and mutations will do just fine now.
Mosquito-borne diseases in the East Coast, it's real now.
If I'd have had to cast my vote, I'd have done that too.
Welcome.
Ed Dames is here.
A remote viewer at Dames from SciTech, private company.
He was very much involved in the official U.S. government secret project.
And when that terminated, they say, he formed a private company and now resides in Hawaii for reasons that will become apparent.
In a moment, we're going to ask about Egypt Air Flight 990.
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Once again, here's Major Ed Dames.
Ed, the country has been gripped.
CNN went into full-time coverage when the Egypt Air 990 went down.
Originally, they thought it went straight down from 33,000 feet down to smash in the ocean in 36 seconds.
Now, we have learned through radar data and the retrieval of the black box that this aircraft, for some absolutely mysterious reason, went from 33,000 feet down to 16 and then up to about 23 and then to the ocean.
In other words, it did what the FAA called a controlled descent.
They actually use those words and came down from 33,000 feet, something you just don't do in a commercial airliner without notification of ground control and that sort of thing, and then plunged into the ocean.
It actually also climbed from that altitude just prior to the plunge.
So there's the autopilot disconnected.
There's all kinds of mysteries surrounding what the hell happened to Egypt Air 990.
Well, first I'd like to express my condolences to those who lost loved ones aboard that flight.
And as many of your listeners know, we have a good example of the way that we attack a problem like this on our website.
You remember the letters and the reports that we sent to the NTSB on TWA Flight 800, where we said that the air-driven pump in System 3, that is the right inboard engine, that pump shattered and the shrapnel punctured the fuel tank, that it was indeed a mechanical error.
And that full report, along with our diagrams and descriptions, is available on our website as well as media that you can view if you're interested in it.
Well, I know that certainly in all the early years you worked with real nuts and bolts stuff.
I mean, remote viewing can be called nuts and bolts.
It really can't.
But I mean, looking for gas canisters or looking for biological development areas or that sort of thing for our governments.
And now, at some point there, you began to see anomalous phenomena, various sorts of anomalous phenomena, which began leaking into the information retrieval.
That actually began even during the military aspect of what you did and certainly has followed on and even gone a lot further, I think, with SciTech.
And when was it that began to happen, and how did you handle that?
Other creatures that have eyes or visual receptors, things that appear in the ultraviolet to us that might be anomalous, such as a ghost, for instance.
We did not want the Russians to know how accurate we were, who we were, what we were doing.
We talked about that on previous programs.
And even though my attention was drawn to these enigma, the thing that threw me was one particular class of enigma that appeared to influence the quality and substance of the data that we were downloading from our targets.
To me, that meant that something new, we were looking, some, I used to call it an outside agency, some outside agency knew that we were using our unconscious minds in this skill to download information about a target, a person, a place, a thing, or an event.
How could something know that unless it had access to our own unconscious minds?
And that was the most disturbing, non-plussing aspect of all the discoveries I made as operations officer.
It appears to be, they appear to be the way the church fathers described them as individual rational entities.
Without a form, we cannot distinguish, as remote viewers, we cannot distinguish the form of an angel.
It appears to be in another dimension, perhaps the sixth dimension.
If mind is the fifth, maybe nominally, we can say that dimension six is populated by angels.
We cannot distinguish the form of an angel.
But we know that there is a discrete intelligence involved and that these are discrete entities.
They appear to have access to our unconscious minds, not necessarily to manipulate, although sometimes they do that, but they're there and they're there constantly.
We just did not know how omnipresent they are in our daily life because they are essentially invisible.
Indeed, they're not even in our range of vision because they're in another dimension.
I've had them on the air here, Ed, of UFOs hovering over U.S. strategic silos, ICBM silos.
There have been reports on national television of objects hovering over Russian silos.
In our case, missiles were actually shut down.
In the case of the Russians, they were actually sent into a launch sequence.
Now, I have information that you believe that not only are angels real, but that they disarmed, I repeat, disarmed nuclear missiles worldwide, and nobody could explain it.
In a couple of cases, there's something that I called, I termed transcendental technology, glowing spheres that hovered, let's say, Socorro, New Mexico was a good example.
There was a case where, typical of this class of the phenomena, where a glowing sphere, actually several hovered outside a nuclear weapon storage depot near Socorro.
The physical security of the depot was not breached.
The locks were not penetrated on the doors of the bunker, the weapon storage bunker.
But the codes on the weapons were zeroized.
That means there were no targeting codes.
In the old days, it took a long time to program the codes in a nuclear weapon to use.
Well, in my own mind, I really have a difficult time delineating it between what some people call a UFO or a glowing light and what another person might call an angel or an entity.
To me, it's a big blur together.
So it could as easily be an angel as it could be some sort of extraterrestrial craft.
Or others working in consort with angelic beings would not have allowed it nor will allow it to occur.
I think that on very evolved planets, a point is reached where the population, whatever they are, intelligent beings, comes to be aware of the presence of these other dimensional creatures all around them.
It forced people like you and I as children to go under our desks at school, have nightmares about mushroom clouds and all of that.
And that was important for our character development and to make the political choices that we made to stop this terror, because the terror exists in our minds.
Yes, but my real question is, Ed, do you think that our governments now understand that nuclear war will not occur for some of the reasons you just outlined versus mutual assured destruction?
No government would entertain the existence of, much less the involvement of angelic beings on this planet at least.
Not for a while.
Even though many of us will go to church on Mass on a Sunday and at least worship a disincarnate being, but we leave that behind when we walk out those doors.
And I guess I had a talk with you, and I cautioned you, and warned you, and worried about you.
And I thought, boy, I don't know, remote viewing Satan, maybe not such a cool idea.
And I remember asking you, as we talked about the results of that remote viewing, whether the entity or the whatever it is you want to call it that you encountered was aware that you were looking.
Yes, but there was something that there was no precedent for children killing children, unless they're conscripts in an army in Africa or something like that.
So what was making this happen?
And that is why I wanted to investigate this idea that I think that Father Malachi Martin would have condoned of taking a look at the shadow.
Because good is everywhere.
Good doesn't hide.
And it doesn't need to be exposed.
It's right out there.
But this thing that we call evil, whether it's in the mind of man or whether it exists as a field force or whatever, it does best when it hides in the shadows.
And what technical remote viewing can do is expose it.
It can shine a light in those little shadowy nooks and corners.
It's interesting because the perceptions that one gets as a remote viewer when you're in, say, the war room of this, I'll call it that for lack of a better word, the war room, the planning room of this entity, is that the idea of it standing there, just an idea now, because it's allegorical in nature since we can't perceive the form, of it standing with its arms crossed saying, here, here's all my plans, look as much as you want, because you can't stop me.
Now, here comes a question that you probably can't answer, but I want to ask it anyway.
If you do a really pragmatic examination of your life since you did that TRV session on Satan, are you certain, Ed, or do you feel certain that there has been no lingering effect from that TRV session?
Well, if evil, in the way you've described, is preordained, then why should we not imagine that good or godliness is also preordained in the same sense, meaning, and I understand now what you said, that our lives are not as much really in our control as we think they are.
It appears to me from my research on myself, using technical remote viewing as a tool for self-exploration, looking inside at all those shadowy pockets and things like that.
In terms of epistemology, the science of knowledge, this is a revelatory tool.
It's knowledge by revelation.
It gets you to a point where you can self-realize.
You can become self-realized.
You have knowledge of who you are.
But that doesn't equal self-actualization because you have to act and choose on that knowledge.
You may see true using techno-remote viewing, but you still have to act, make a choice and act, and to get you to a new state of being in terms of any destiny potential.
So I looked at those things, and I also wanted the perspective, instead of looking from this point in my life outward along a timeline to the right, say by convention, I wanted to walk that line all the way to my own physical death and then look back and have that perspective too, to see what it was all about and what I might have changed.
In terms of a standard, the standard being whatever created me or the control system that put me here, however you wish to call it.
What was most important to guide me, if I had it to do over again, what would I have done differently?
Well, that's problematic, but we're here and now, right here, where the rubber meets the road and the focus is generally in this narrow bandwidth of time, right here in this physical reality that we're in.
It's a paradox because by me doing that, if that's preordained, then I already know what the system knows, what I'm going to do, and what decisions I will make.
When we come back, we're going to tell you, before going back into what lies ahead for us all, and we are going to do that, believe me, we're going to tell you how you can get involved in TRB yourself if you want to.
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Don't let me know.
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I've got it one month, right before we get out of the night.
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I'm back now to Ed Dames, SciTech Ed Dames, and the first thing I want to do before we plunge forward is tell you that what Ed Dames does, what Ed Dames learned in the military and what he developed in the private sector, became available, oh, I don't know, a couple years ago, three years ago, I'm losing track of time, on videotape.
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No, it requires dedication and commitment to master the intermediate skills, skills that would essentially allow you to solve the problem of what brought Flight 990 down or what that object was that your pilots earlier reported.
That would require at least four months of instruction.
It's 10 hours of instruction on both the tapes.
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With 12,000 people now, Ed, remote viewing, have you at any point noticed any sort of sea change in what you're able to do or what you encounter as a result of that many people being out there?
The only thing I've noticed and I expected to see was that there are a lot of people who are far better than I am as the coach, as the principal instructor, in terms of the skill itself.
Not necessarily teaching it, but in terms of performance, because you have such a large pool of talent, raw talent.
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This particular solar max will just keep ratcheting up, and there will either be one or two very violent storms, or there will be a number to the degree that weather changes will be affected very, very rapidly.
When you say kill shot, would there be survivors of this or are we talking about something so serious from the sun that it would virtually sterilize everything down to the microbial level?
Somebody faxed me the following that I respect, Ed, and I want to ask you about it.
Again, it's a hard question.
You gave very specific, detailed, verifiable, ultimately, observations about Egypt there and what happened.
The faxer says, in all, Ed is always enigmatic and provocative.
But as ever, you know, after hearing him over time and reading some of the past transcripts carefully, I have the impression that he combines some genuine remote viewing data with information that is available to him through his more earthly contacts.
At times, I feel he throws in some finely finessed curves.
In other words, Ed, there are a lot of people who think that your separation from the military and the contacts you had was not a separation, a complete separation.
I hear this all the time, and there's nothing I can do to really ameliorate that.
I can't outrun my legacy as an intelligence officer at very high levels of the government.
And so I think that there wouldn't be, I mean, what intelligence agency is connected so closely with the International Civil Aviation Organization that it monitors cockpit goings-ons of all airliners?
Common sense would tell you that that is not a high priority even if it ever existed.
So common sense really isn't used with conspiracy theorists.
Since October, three years ago, and I talked about UFOs and what the government knew, what it didn't know, and there had always been the hope that someone would come out from the sanctum sanctorum and talk about these things.
But then when you do, then it's a firestorm of condemnation and accusations because you must be one of them.
Well, I was one of them, and I did come forward, which is what everybody wanted, they thought.
Is there ever really a clean separation, or once you've done high-level intelligence work, to some degree, are you not always bound not only by what you knew, but ongoing contacts you might have?
All right, you folks read between the lines and we'll leave that subject.
Listen, Ed, I've been interviewing Joyce Riley now for, I don't know, years, too.
And she is a nurse.
And she has been crusading for those Gulf War vets who are claiming that some sort of biological agent was used on them and they're getting sick in masks.
The government's dragging its feet, as it always does.
The question is, what kind of biological weapons, or no, let's even back up from that.
Were there biological agents used against American servicemen during Desert Storm?
Peridostignine bromide was supposed to be a prophylaxis for a chemical soup that Saddam Hussein might deliver, mustard agent, nerve gas, something that would ameliorate or mitigate, use as a prophylaxis against those kinds of things if someone did not don protective gear immediately.
This would save their lives theoretically.
Instead, it caused an unprecedented, unpredicted, terrible tragedy amongst many people.
This Gulf War syndrome.
And that is essentially the real genesis of that syndrome, these paradigmine bromine tablets that our soldiers and sailors and airmen were forced to take.
I think particularly, it seems to be particularly aggravated in cases where volatile hydrocarbons from the burning oil fields.
That would make soldiers, sailors, and airmen that might have breathed those volatile hydrocarbons in combination with the pyridostignum bromine seemed to accelerate and amplify this effect, perhaps even made it reach a threshold value where this tragedy occurred.
To validate the existence of the phenomenon itself, to actually validate it, to measure it, get some parameters.
Whether or not if we were dealing with artifacts of propulsion or the direct observations of things itself, but to actually validate the existence, bring back the smoking gun.
And that's what the small team of very, very expert physicists were involved.
There is at least one area in North America that is extremely active in terms of a passage point for what we would call vehicles or objects.
In other words, we can go to this area and make consistently, get consistent sightings and get close enough where we can measure some of the operating parameters of these objects.
We had 31 channels of data.
Each channel was a different parameter.
So for instance, the electromagnetic field, the binding force of nature, infrared, ultraviolet.
We had all RF.
We had all kinds of recording devices set out so that we could capture signals and then put together some type of a pattern to attempt to deduce what we were dealing with.
We were actually, at one point, there was a, you know how you buzz someone with an aircraft?
I've done this before too, playing around with people who did it to us.
Sure.
We never got one of them to, I'll use the term loosely, to land, ever.
We were hoping that might happen, but it did not happen.
Yeah, or that the demonstration, I guess you could call it, or the acknowledgement, the knowledge that we knew this was what it was all about would be sufficient to perhaps initiate contact.
That kind of one-world peace, not the one-world terror that some imagine.
Would that be our future?
Or is it all kind of a moot point?
The End Just in Tuesday night, I'm going to do a program that I'm calling Death and Taxes.
And I'm calling it that because my guest is going to be an IRS employee.
He remains an IRS employee, by the way, who had an NDE, a very serious NDE.
All Vital Sein stopped.
And yet he remains an IRS employee.
I don't know whether he had a full life review, but we'll find out.
So I call that Death and Taxes on Tuesday.
On Wednesday of next week, I'm sorry, I'm wrong.
Death and Taxes, that's Monday.
I'll be here Monday, live.
I forgot to tell you that.
I'll be here Monday, live.
Then Tuesday evening, we're going to have the producer of, his name is David Israel, of the NBC movie coming up, which ha ha ha, I will have seen by then.
Y2K the movie, which some fear more than Y2K the reality of whatever may occur, because, of course, the effect that it may have on the American public, all of you, all of us.
Y2K the movie is going to run on NBC, but before it does, we're going to have the producer of that movie here, where we can grill him in great detail about all of this.
And then the following night, Wednesday night, we're going to do, again, a show on Y2K called Y2K Ready or Not, Here It Comes.
Title of the book, telling you how to get ready, just in case you think what Bill Clinton said about Y2K may not be the case.
Some people don't believe every word he utters.
Okay, once again, here is Major Ed Dames.
And Lennon, John Lennon, was he, with regard to our future, Ed, a genius, a prophet?
Was he seeing our future or was he dreaming and hoping about dreaming and hoping?
Ed, somebody wanted me to ask you if Flight 990A, when you remote viewed this thing, did you happen to note there were early reports that it landed at Edwards Air Force Base, then later denied?
Do you happen to know offhand, or were you not viewing that aspect?
So I guess what I'm asking is, have you picked a place that you actually consider to be relatively safe or just a place from which it would be good to exit?
Ed, there is a laboratory that is preparing to do something that has never been done before.
They are going to produce, they claim, a mini Big Bang.
Now, I have some reservations, and other people do about this too, because the Big Bang, of course, created supposedly all that is now.
Everything we can see for as far as we can see billions of years out, all the planets, all the suns, all the quasars, all the things that fill space created in an instant, kaboom, a Big Bang.
And there's a lab in this country that's preparing to create what they call a mini Big Bang, and I have a concern about that.
That is a creative process they'd be tampering with there.
And it might be that a mini Big Bang would be big enough to take out Earth, Jupiter, our Sun, who knows what all else.
Have you ever taken a look at this project ongoing?
I mean, there's going to be a moment in time where somebody pushes a button, Ed, and what I guess I'd like to know, we've discussed the way these things appear in time, and you've described it as kind of a giant spike.
And I guess I want to know if there's a big spike when this guy pushes the button.
Yeah, but here we're talking about a mini Big Bang, and I have a hard time getting my mind, wrapping my mind around the concept of what a mini Big Bang might be.
Well, I would not be perceiving it, of course, as a spike, only allegorically.
I would be perceiving the actual physicality of the event, what is happening at both the atomic cloud level all the way up to the macrocosmic world in the laboratory itself, or hopefully it's confined to the laboratory and to whatever they're using,
a linear accelerator or what, and be able to describe it somewhat and then relook the experiment for the details, describe it in a general fashion, then use more technical remote viewing sessions to go back in and explore each aspect of what I might find.
Now, another person, Tom in Boise, Idaho, really asks a cool question here, particularly in view of the fact that you have remote viewed your own death.
Art, if you can see your own death, as Ed has suggested, and that death comes by anything other than natural causes, then one should be able to prevent that death until the time when natural causes do result in death.
Now, that's a pretty good question.
If you knew that you were going to board an aircraft that was going to crash and did not board as a result, well, first of all, could that be done, Ed?
From some of the research that we've done and some of the actual operational experience that I have, it does appear that if you have the knowledge, you can choose not to participate in that particular trajectory.
So it looks as if there is a probable pathway for individuals where probability comes into play, but that if you're aware of that, you can manipulate it to some degree.
Yes, the paradox problem is very real, but it appears in technical remote viewing in another sense most often.
And that is, if I remote view where you will eat dinner, for example, tonight, say you're going to eat dinner.
If you weren't going to eat dinner, it would come out in my remote viewing session that you weren't going to eat dinner tonight.
So I would know that.
But let's say you had decided to go to a restaurant and you were indeed going to go.
If I remote view that, I could describe the restaurant where you will be eating tonight.
But if there were any possibility at all, any probability, any likelihood that I would tell you what those results would be, I would not be able to derive anything except nonsense from my data.
I wouldn't be able to nail it down.
There is a paradox problem that we run into in remote viewing.
If the sun is affecting our weather, then it's going to be affecting the ocean and ocean temperatures.
And we've had a lot of reports, Ed, of anomalous ocean temperatures, the Atlantic Current not doing what it ought to be doing, and that's the subject of a book that Whitley Striber and myself are about to come out with.
It's going to be a walloping book.
All of this change is underway, and it could provoke A sudden change.
People don't realize this, but our climate historically, going back not just since we began recording modern weather phenomena, but going back through the archaeological records and doing digs and coming up with core samples and stuff, we found out that the Earth's weather has changed violently, suddenly, many, many, many times in the past.
Can you, I know timelines are hard, but if you're pressed, these changes with our sun and with our weather, they're so important and will affect so many.
If you look at India, the super cyclones, all that, that's happening.
I'm not as concerned about that because that is a fait accompli as I am about terrorism and about the nature of man and what's going to happen in that regard.
By the way, before we get onto that, it's really odd, Ed.
You know, if a cyclone hits India and tens of thousands die, we hear it almost as a byline in this country.
You know, if tens of thousands of people died in the West or in Europe or in America, oh, it would be the size of that tragedy and the way it would be reported can't even be calculated.
But in India, we sort of just mention it on the news.
I think that there is an interesting thing occurring here that I'm beginning to notice, that the kinds of cataclysms, cataclysmic events of a geological, geophysical nature that we see occur in the southern hemisphere, it has an antithesis in the northern hemisphere that you are about to see, and that is large terrorist events.
This is one of the things that I'm looking at now.
In fact, I put together using members of the old military remote viewing unit, a counter-nuclear terrorism task force.
I only use Alpha team members, the original team members, on this because it's such a dicey thing.
We're looking at the real probability of nuclear terrorism.
And that is in its own way cataclysmic in the northern hemisphere.
The FBI, the Department of Energy, the White House, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the Central Intelligence Agency would get a copy of SciTech's reports.
And we call these, if it was a hidden weapon, we would just report the location and other things.
If it were a terrorist attempt, we would issue an intent-to-detonate warning report.
And that would be an urgent report that would go to those agencies.
We'll be right back, and we'll try and get to the phones in this final segment coming up.
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I text Major Ed Dames, and I'm pleased to have him here tonight.
A lot of what Major says, people don't want to hear, and that results in anger.
That's a fairly typical response, frankly.
Another way to approach it might be education.
And getting at least, at the very least, the first technical remote viewing tape, I think would be a good way to begin to get educated.
Then you'll understand.
The number to call to order the tapes.
Actually, there's two of them.
And I understand there's also a big discount going on right now.
The number is 1-888-878-0333.
That's 1-888-878-0333.
Or 1-877-878-1777.
Now, these are daytime numbers generally, or you can call and leave voicemail and they'll get back to you.
So call one of them and begin to investigate for yourself.
There's one thing about it, if you think he's full of it, you can always begin the process yourself and find out for yourself if you are so inclined.
and I understand that some out there are not.
The End Once again, sci-tex Major Ed Dames.
Major Dames, we may have covered this previously, but a lot of people may not have heard it, and they're really curious, and I'm getting a lot of faxes.
So the question is, Symbol, may we ask the Major to comment on the big chemtrail mystery?
Is there something to it?
Nothing to it?
Should we be concerned?
Are they testing biological weapons on us?
Is it some sort of inoculation that we're getting?
And I mean, the U.S. did things like this in the 1950s.
It was a very cavalier approach that was during the McCarthy era, the dark age of America culture.
But that does not happen any longer.
It happens in totalitarian dictatorships, But not here.
That is not what is going on up there.
I mentioned that one of the sets of uses of the chemtrails is an experiment.
And I think for the first time on your show, I mentioned that I could not tell you what that is because it is of strategic value and it's very important.
And indeed, if I let the cat out of the bag, I would be in the bag.
Your listeners would be very angry at me because I would have given away something that is vitally important to national defense.
Just because you see those chemtrails and people are, it appears that people are getting sick, don't forget that there may be a big reason for some of those chemtrails to be up there, what you're calling chemtrails.
They're really not chemicals.
They are contrails and they're doing something that's important in some cases.
In other cases, it's just your normal flight traffic pattern.
Hey, I started listening to you about a year ago, Major Dane, on the Art Bell show, and I bought a copy of the audio tape there so I could get the details out of it.
And the main thing that I perceive about your predictions and all is that you've been wrong about every major prediction you've made.
The timelines are wrong, but the predictions aren't wrong, especially in terms of the sun, in terms of the largest tornado that would hit the United States.
No, actually what he said, what I recall he said, was that there would be a fungus that would begin in Africa that would begin to kill green things.
And you know, there was a story about a fungus in Africa that I read that you might have heard, Caller, because I read it several times, that is doing exactly that.
It's Tim from Cold Lake Alberta, Nostradimus on your website.
But I remember Ed saying when we're talking about the Nostradamus thing that didn't appear in September or July for that matter, that basically we got into Y2K and the Y2K thing was a non-event, Ed said, because these other things are going to take place and we're just kind of getting close to it now.
Could you comment on that?
And just one other quick thing.
There's been a lot of air crashes lately.
We followed that in the papers and whatnot.
I did a search on the internet when the Learjet, remember the Golf Parole, when they were asphyxiated or whatever happened on the Internet.
So if you will somehow get that to Ed on his website or an email or something or another, why then he can proceed.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
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This is Alessandra in Chicago listening to WLS 89 a.m., which I wish would start picking up your first hour.
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I have two questions for you, Ed.
First of all, previously you have mentioned the parameters for somebody who is blind taking this training, and also that you teach advanced techniques over the Internet.
To your knowledge, has anyone who is totally blind from birth been able to participate in that advanced training?
I have not taught, to my knowledge, I have not taught a blind person advanced training either on the Internet or in a classroom with teaching professionals.
But the tapes would be a problem because I would not be able to oversee that and literally hold the hand of the person until they mastered the stage one.
You left a fabulous hook a while back when you were talking about going to the time of your death and seeing your life from that perspective and saying that you have found out the grand secret that we basically don't know about who we are.
Are you willing to share that grand secret with us now?
If you think of humans as having a potential, we don't know what we're capable of doing.
We have hints and insights based upon historical examples of savants and saints and all kinds of things, yogas, yogis.
But there may be a program, there may be a thing, a switch, let's say, for lack of a better word, inside of us that if thrown and if it's capable of being thrown, does something that allows us to become something more than we ever imagined.
And that may have been latent for thousands of years.
You could live and die and never know that you could do that.
Going back to your New Mexico situation there, we've had similar activities.
I've done the same thing as Ed Dames has been into.
And I know it's really funny when you get involved with some of these things such in the New Mexico areas, that you really think about how many humans have lived and died and actually don't even know what's going on in this world, haven't seen these things.
And I haven't heard you bringing up any of those craft penetrating solid matter coming out of the ground, Ed.
And real quick, two other comments, Art, I think for corroboration on some of the devastating information Ed has revealed to us, I think we need to maybe tap into that pool of talent that Ed talked about earlier, maybe open up a line another day or something.
And last question.
Ed, am I ever going to read the headline, Psychic Finds Amelia Earhart's Wreckage, or have you kind of shied away from that publicity?
That's becoming difficult because Kiribar is where it's at.
And you can see the exact site.
If you go to our website, we actually have X's on what we say is a wing and an engine on the reefs just to the west of one of the atolls, at Kuria, the atoll that's in this decade called Kuria, it was called.