Peter Davenport examines the Phoenix Lights (1997), where 2M witnesses saw five red-lit craft ignored by media for three months before sudden coverage, and the Mount St. Helens UFO incident (Feb 25, 1999), where sober witnesses described a disc-shaped craft lifting a 500-lb elk without explanation. He highlights government silence despite cases like Roswell and Majestic 12, questioning cover-ups amid rising U.S. UFO reports—including silent triangular objects over Illinois and Ohio (Feb 25) and a yellow spherical craft splitting near Los Angeles (Mar 7). Frustration grows as credible sightings vanish without inquiry, suggesting deeper suppression of unexplained phenomena. [Automatically generated summary]
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Peter Davenport is here along with Robert A. Fairfax, Director of Investigations for MUFON in Washington.
And there's been a major case with multiple witnesses, one that's really going to blow your mind.
They're going to tell you that story in a moment.
They've just completed the investigation, if you ever actually complete one of these things.
Also, there is breaking news in Chicago.
Peter Davenport will have that story for you, or near Chicago somewhere, where a very large, guess what, once again, triangular object has been sighted.
That and a lot more coming right up.
So, the old say.
Peter Davenport is the director of the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington, and he's been sporadically doing reports on this program now for, I don't know.
And I think I can honestly say that I don't think any one of these investigations that we've handled in the last four or four and a half years has ever been closed.
I find this one particularly alarming art, and I think our listeners tonight will get a feeling of that.
Why don't I start off, Bob, with just a brief introduction of what happened.
Maybe you can fill in the blanks, and then we'll play about a 77-second tape of the first report we got about this just about two weeks ago.
But in a nutshell, what happened is this, on Thursday, the 25th of February, 1999, about two or three minutes before noon, a group of forestry workers in the state of Washington not far from Mount St. Helens,
which blew its top out here a couple decades ago, three of those workers saw what at first they thought was a parachute drifting over the ridge to the south of them and drifting into the valley to the north of their location.
They were out doing forestry work, which they've done for a decade or decade and a half, many of them in that area.
They were astonished by this thing.
The first three to see the object quickly called the attention of their co-workers to it, and they watched that object for, they estimate, three, four, maybe five minutes.
And the long and the short of it is that object drifted towards a herd of elk.
And it was seen by 14 witnesses, allegedly, to pick one of the adult elk off the ground, pick it up out of the forest, and do a circle with it, and then start rising, rising faster and faster and faster, and it disappeared from their sight to the northeast.
And of course, one, a good investigator is always skeptical, particularly in a case like this where you're being told just absolutely incredible, incredible things.
But Bob and I, just a week ago, tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon, met with three of those 14 witnesses.
And I'll let Bob speak for his own part, but my impression of the people we met with, the people who were involved with this case, are as sober-minded and modest and soft-spoken, perhaps even self-effacing a group of people as you'll ever run across.
If you would permit me, I would like to play about a 77-second cut of the first report we got.
This first came in on the, actually this is a brief conversation I had with a gentleman.
This came in on the 1st of March, just about three or four days after the event, after it had been preliminarily investigated by some of the people who were involved.
About noon, they looked up and saw what they thought it was a parachute coming down.
But as they got closer to the ground, it stopped and started doing some maneuvering, which got the attention of more of the crew members.
And they were standing there within 500 yards.
They noticed it was a machine rather than a parachute after a little bit.
It went over a herd of elk and it took up next to them, and it went over under the bank elk and actually picked one of them up and took it, I'm assuming, into the machine.
They said that it then acted like the weight of that thing was almost too much for them.
And it started wobbling.
Time to gain altitude, it was moving over towards the edge of the clear cut, and they thought it was going to crash into the trees, but it stopped, moved back over into the middle of the clear cut, hovered for a minute, and went out of sight vertical.
They were willing to talk to us in a special fashion, I will say.
These people really, really do not want any publicity, and that is sort of an interesting aspect.
That, from my vantage point, and I think Bob would probably agree, that is a very good sign.
These people do not have any kind of agenda they apparently are trying to fulfill.
They would not even allow us to photograph them.
And there are certain aspects of our interview that we probably should just gloss over here and not mention at all.
But they took a day off.
It was their day off when we interviewed them.
And they assembled and drove some distance to meet with us to share with us firsthand what it was that they allegedly had seen just about eight days earlier.
And it was interesting to watch them interact with one another.
We interviewed them together for a host of reasons.
Generally, you like to interview people separately.
We did it together for a host of reasons.
And it was very interesting to see how each of them amplified what the other one would say.
We do look for certain signs and things that we know are common, but most witnesses don't know about.
One of them was that the craft wobbled.
It wobbled before, it picked the creature up, it wobbled afterwards, and it wobbled in an interesting fashion.
It oscillated around all points of the compass, like a wave motion traveling around the circumference, which is typical of reports that we get with video, for instance.
It's a very strange and peculiar type of movement.
It was wobbling slowly as it approached the elk, according to the witnesses.
And as you heard this gentleman just comment in this tape I just played, after it picked the animal up, it was almost as if it was overgrossed, as though it had too much weight, and it started wobbling in a much more pronounced fashion.
And what people describe to us, I found to be very reminiscent of that tape from Mexico City called the Las Lamitas tape.
Jaime Massant, who I know has been a guest on your program, described it and described his new evidence in that case, and it's rather convincing.
One of the best bunking efforts of the confirmation program.
So the two of you, I mean, 14 witnesses, that's really incredible.
You might get a couple of people, maybe even three, to concoct a story, but not, I don't think, 14.
And particularly under the conditions of we don't want anything, we really don't want to talk to you, and we certainly don't want our pictures taken, and you don't have permission to play the tape.
Can you imagine that elf slowly twisting, frozen, and slowly twisting toward that craft?
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It just rose and rose and rose along the eastern or western facing slope, and then it got steeper and steeper and just went out of their sight, disappeared into the sky to the northeast.
Yeah, it's very difficult to answer those questions.
Bob and I, I think, are frustrated immensely by this case because we don't have a photograph.
If we had a photograph of this one, I think it would change the complexion of ufology dramatically.
But these guys were out there planting trees.
They didn't think that they would see something like that.
They didn't have a camera.
One of the things that they reported to us is very interesting.
They noted that, as Bob reported earlier, the herd of elk after this incident regrouped in the same area and stayed very close to one another.
Noticeably closer, they reported, and they were able to compare because they had been watching the animals throughout that morning down in the valley below them.
It's very difficult for me to say, but that seems reasonable.
Of course it does.
Interestingly, the workers themselves stayed very close to one another throughout that day.
They clearly, clearly were unsettled by this incident and apparently talked about it profusely among themselves, and they were even put in touch with people with more authority in that area.
We don't want to identify them and describe their story to we don't want to get them fired is what it comes to.
They don't want to be identified.
None of the people involved in this case wish to be identified.
One thing I might add are when we were examining this dead female elk, we actually examined the dead elk before we went to the site of the alleged incident.
I noticed that this animal had ticks on it.
When you ran your hand through the fur of the animal, it had dead ticks on its neck.
Yeah, one of the things I'd like to do is talk to an entomologist and a large animal biologist to find out if anything is known about the migration of ticks after an animal has died.
But there was no mark on this animal.
It makes me wonder whether the ticks and the animal might have been killed by the same cause, let's call it.
But it is a very interesting case.
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We also noted that there weren't any scavengers that had attacked the carcass.
You know, I was just sitting here preparing for this program tonight, minding my own business, hoping the phone would be quiet, and it was not, Art.
We have had what appears to be, based on preliminary data, just about two and a half hours ago, a huge triangle was seen in the vicinity of Lamont, Illinois.
I presume it's out to the west because if you go east from Chicago, of course, it's not rural area at all.
But let me, if you'd permit me, what I would like to do to kick it off is just play about a 50-second audio cut that I took just this evening about a sighting out there at 10.30 p.m. Central Standard Time.
The first cut I would like to play is a young gal, age 16, who was out driving.
And I'll let her describe what she saw.
It was very dramatic.
And after that, we might play a cut from the mother who saw the same object.
She was called out by her daughter.
But here's a 50-second cut of what a young woman saw in Lamont, Illinois tonight, just about two hours ago.
But before we go to that sighting in Ohio that occurred just a few minutes after this sighting up in Illinois, if you'd permit me, let me play about a 70-second cut with regard to what this young woman's mother had to do.
Okay, I'm glad to know.
Interestingly, this young gal described that when they last saw the object tonight, it was going to the east and it made a turn and it was going to the south.
I presume those are approximate directions.
But let's listen to what the mother had to describe.
Her daughter came in, called her out, and said, Mom, you've got to look at this.
Let's listen to what the mother has to report.
Here we are, about 70-second cut.
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Sure.
I saw it was triangular-shaped, but it was not flying very high, but I think higher by the time I saw it than once it.
And seemed to be flying as though it was going where the point was.
It's not probably around 1035.
There were lights all around it.
There was one light in the center underneath.
And I can't remember if it was red or blue.
It was red.
I couldn't remember if it was blue.
There were blue lights on the sides.
There was some white lights.
See, it just had a ton of lights around it.
Flying airplane sound at all.
And even when there's planes going really high overhead, because we are a rural suburb and it's dark, you will hear it at night.
Terminology of my business, I sometimes lose track of it.
A cigar-shaped object, metallic in appearance.
They had long enough to go get a set of binoculars, come back and watch it.
There were sightings all over this country that morning, that afternoon, and that evening.
But before we leave this sighting tonight, may I play one more cut, an audio cut of about 50 seconds duration, of what was reported to us shortly after the report you just heard came in.
They may want to stay tuned because I'm going to play about a two-minute audio cut of what allegedly occurred very close to Los Angeles proper this past Sunday at about 5.20 in the morning below solid overcast.
You know, one thing we're always interested in is missile launches out of Vandenberg.
The fact that these governments would have us believe, Art, that this phenomenon that you and I have been talking about now for an hour and a quarter tonight, and in fact for four years, is not taking place.
Now, it is alarming to me because this government we have purportedly, allegedly, is representative of our interests.
I would love to know the people who sat around the table and decided they were going to have a press conference about Roswell to debunk the whole thing.
And wouldn't you love to know?
I mean, there's got to be a paperwork trail a mile long about that thing.
But I mean, Peter, trust me, I was in the Air Force, and nothing would, high-profile public like that would happen in a million years without a whole bunch of people sitting around, high-profile type general class officers and civilians of some sort deciding exactly what was going to be done.
Well, I sure would like to have somebody out there, Peter Griston, are you listening, serve up a freedom of information request with regard to the planning of that whole Roswell press conference?
Yeah, let's go to Los Angeles, and I hope we have a few listeners down there tonight, because just four days ago, there was apparently, we have only one source on this, but apparently a very dramatic event.
It was not a missile launch for reasons that will become evident to our listeners here very shortly.
And this was a former LAPD officer who witnessed what you're about to hear.
It's about a two-minute and 15-second cut.
It's a little bit longer than I like to play, but it gets interesting towards the end.
Here we go.
It's actually in La Mirada, which I think is about 15 miles east of Los Angeles.
This is Sunday, the 7th of March, just four days ago.
Here we go.
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On the 7th of March, at 5.20 in the morning in suburban Los Angeles, my husband was leaving.
He's a police motor officer to go to work.
Under heavy cloud cover, he was standing in the driveway.
He called me up to see if we were wondering if it was going to rain.
Under the clouds was this large yellow round-shaped something.
At first, we thought it might be a planet, realized it was under the cloud cover.
We then got the binoculars, came out.
As I came out, he said, look, a smaller portion pulled away or broke off and at a measured pace took off in a south direction and disappeared into the clouds.
After that disappeared, the larger, and by this time I was looking through the binoculars, it was not as solid yellow or light as it would be with a star or a planet, light and dark, light and dark, light and dark.
And it then took off at also a measured pace and went in a northeasterly direction.
We thought it might be something going to Edwards Air Force Base.
There has been nothing in any of the papers or on TV.
Frequently, things like that are called into TV stations and they may have seen it on air.
Sit with me, this has really sort of bugged me.
What is this?
And we have always thought, well, we don't disbelieve, we don't believe, we just have open.
And when we saw this, what we talked about it, why we thought, this is something unusual.
And it has to be a, it's not a natural.
If it were, it would not show through the cloud cover.
It was under the cloud cover.
It couldn't be showing through the clouds.
There were no stars, no anything else showing.
And it disappeared into the clouds.
That was the other thing.
When it did come into the this northeasterly direction, it went away and then just slid into the clouds.
How long do you estimate you watched it, please?
Well, it was three or four minutes because I had time to run in the house, get the knockers, come out, and it was still stationary.
And as I was adjusting them, my husband said, look.
And that's when the smaller object just sort of, and I don't know how to explain it other than it seemed to come back to curve, turn.
Whereas if something were naturally falling as a falling star, it would have just gone very quickly.
So a measured pace, two objects, a large one, and according to this source, again, I wish to emphasize, Art, that it's a single source, but the only credible source.
I asked her at the end of our conversation whether she was professional, whether she worked in a responsible job.
She speaks very eloquently.
She's very precise with the language.
You learn a lot about people when you spend half your day on the telephone, judging from their voices.
She said she was.
And this is a case in which the object went to the north and east after it had dropped a smaller object apparently out of the bottom of it, which slowed and stopped, and then it started moving in a methodical fashion to the southeast.
I have no idea what could explain such a thing.
There's nothing from this planet, in my opinion, that could explain something like that.
And this is 15 miles from downtown Los Angeles just four days ago.
I'm not a specialist in these fields, but I can just imagine some kind of Independence Day barbecue just on the far side of the moon or something like that.
But, you know, I have read, I'm not a specialist in the field of animal mutilation, but there have been, and Linda Howe could really address this.
I think I've heard her say something like 30 or 40,000 cases, documented cases of farm animals that have been mutilated.
Well, I told Linda that you had something going that was in her area, and she was chafing it a bit, but I wouldn't tell her about it because I didn't really exactly know all the details, and I was sort of sworn to silence until we put it on the air tonight.
You know, Roger Lear and I were on the 2nd of March talking about our sighting in Laughlin, Nevada on the 27th of September, that Saturday night at the end of the UFO Congress.
Apparently, you've gotten some information about that, but just yesterday we received a report from a gentleman who saw apparently those same objects, those same five objects in the night sky.
He was in Chloride, Arizona, which I estimate is about 20 miles maybe to the northeast, maybe east-northeast of Laughlin.
And we got the report.
I read it with eager delight because it tended to confirm the sighting that 50 of us had had right on the western bank of the Colorado River.
And I quickly wrote him back asking him how he had found us, whether he had heard the broadcast on the 2nd of March.
He said no, he didn't know about us, hadn't heard the broadcast.
The interesting thing about his report art is he was 20 or 30 miles to the east of the observers that Roger and I were standing with in Laughlin, Nevada.
And what this one report we got from Chloride seems to tell me, if in fact he was looking at the objects at the same time we in the group of 50 over in Laughlin were looking at them, what it tells me is that the objects that we could see must have been 20 or 30 miles away from us, and they were quite prominent.
They were not large, but they were prominent, which means that they must have been sizable.
We're talking about something that must have been, I'm only guessing now, I've not worked this out, 30, 40, 50 meters in diameter and highly luminous for us to have been able to see them from 20 or 30 miles away.
This woman who just reported from La Merada, she pointed out that there were alternating sections on this thing, light, dark, light, dark, light, dark.
And we hear that all the time.
In fact, it's reminiscent of a report from the 2nd of February that I think I played on an earlier program, an earlier program of COAST from Sicklerville, New Jersey.
It's about 15, 20 miles southeast of Philadelphia.
That's exactly what the woman reported she allegedly had seen on the 2nd of February this year.
But I mean, even our own government, our own Air Force, we've got stealth fighters, we've got stealth bombers, we've got black helicopters, and if we don't want them seen at night, they don't get seen.
Listen, the first mass-mind experiment I did, I did about two years and two weeks ago.
The first experiment I dared toy with in my reckless early days was to try and get millions of people to concentrate on craft showing themselves above a major U.S. city.
That was the first mass experiment we did.
Two weeks later, almost to this very day, we had incredible occurrences in Phoenix, Arizona.
It is clear from my vantage point up here in Seattle that we're dealing with something that we do not understand.
It is vastly beyond what grasp of technology we have on this planet.
And I am prepared to give considerable, lend considerable ear to any assertion in the field of ufology, because the more we learn, the more confused we become.
You know, going back to that issue for a moment, if I may, I see we're coming up on a break here shortly.
But the thing that confuses me about the government issue and UFOs is how could our government continue the lie through generations of elected officials?
I mean, presidents, members of Congress, generations of people in the military.
It's now been 50 years since the, over 50 years, almost 52 years now, since the so-called modern era of ufology began with Roswell or with Ken Arnold, actually, over the state of Washington.
And that's a lot of people who have passed through fairly responsible positions in our government, and yet all of them have remained silent with a few notable exceptions.
Barry Goldwater pressed this.
Governor Carter actually pressed it.
You know, he made at least two promises that I'm aware of in the summer of 1976 when he was running for the office of president.
He said he would never lie to the American people.
And when he was asked about his written UFO report that he submitted to NICAP in 1973, he said were he elected to be elected president, he would square with the American people on UFOs.
Now, over the last several days, we have been having a rather large magnetic storm.
The sun really is kicking up an easy fit these days.
And I just got this fax, which says, Art, pilot sees spectacular northern lights display tonight.
Check this out.
Art, I'm a commercial airline pilot.
While en route from Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Minneapolis, Minnesota this evening at about 11.30 p.m., I was treated to a spectacular northern lights display in the northern sky.
Now, that's not why I'm writing to you, because I've been treated to many shows in the past.
Main reason I'm writing to you tonight is not what I saw, but what I physically felt.
I noticed my face had the same feeling as when you lay in the sun getting a suntan on the beach.
My skin on my face was very, very warm, almost like I had a fever.
The captain stated that he was experiencing the same conditions as I. Once we descended below the overcast clouds over Minneapolis, our conditions disappeared.
I have never, in my 15 years of flying, experienced anything like this.
Signed, Paul, first officer for a major airline in the Midwest.
Now, I know that there are issues at altitude during geomagnetic storms, but I have never heard of anybody describing those kind of physical effects ever.
And the captain, you know, I mean, here we have a captain and first officer both saying The same thing.
So I don't know how to categorize this one, except I sure would like to talk to the fellow.
Although if somebody wants to find out who they are, of course, they could go to the flight number and the time and so on and so forth and figure it out.
It would have, almost to the minute, Art, I think, almost to the minute, is when we were on the air talking about what had just happened in Phoenix.
In Phoenix, Arizona.
It's ironic.
And you know, this past week I've sent out copies of a two-page press release that I prepared and circulated to wire services, to local newspapers here, local television stations, people all across the country, NPR, sent out several dozen of these things, faxed them out, and faxed them out.
And I have yet to have a single news organization or medium call back to get clarification, to seek more information, to acknowledge receipt.
You know, I think these people in the press must think we're idiots or something.
I do not understand why people in the press are not going after this story.
This is the biggest story that we've had in 2,000 years.
It was one of those nights where you don't even believe what people are telling you.
They're telling you that the object stopped over them and they had to hold their arms out in a V about 60 degrees out to touch the right hand and the left hand wingtips of the object that was hovering motionless directly overhead them at an altitude.
You know, we estimate, you've probably heard this already, Art, we may have discussed this on a program in the past, the object, and we think there were several of them that night two years ago, the object that stopped just south of Camelback Mountain in Phoenix was somewhere between one and three miles in width, one and three miles, and it hovered there for an estimated four to five minutes.
It's just a short piece, about 30, 40 seconds maybe, but it comes from Prescott Valley, I believe is the one I'm going to play here.
It has a family looking at this object that is going to the west of them and heading south.
I think the gentleman actually cites the fact that they think it turned.
But this is what was seen over Prescott Valley as it was coursing south to Phoenix.
Within probably a minute of this broadcast or of this telephone conversation, the object was approaching Phoenix 30 or 40 miles to the south.
But let me just play this, and this will give our listeners who are not familiar with the Phoenix lights an idea of what happened two years ago tonight.
Here we go.
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Well, I was outside with my wife and my two boys, and we were looking to the almost west at about 8.20.
And there was like a diamond formation and five red lights.
Pretty good spread.
And the very front craft had a white light, like a landing light.
So I went and got my binoculars to look at them, and they had fired lights, and they were moving very slow.
And so I thought maybe at first it was helicopters, but then because I see them do the dusting at night in LA and things like that, they're moving as slow as that.
And they came overhead, they still had their solid red lights on.
Each one had each, there were five of them, and each one had a solid red light, except for the nose one.
And didn't make a sound.
And they came by very slow, and they stayed in perfect formation.
And they passed us, and they banked to the southeast, almost sideways, and stayed in perfect formation.
You know, that is approximately, I think Prescott Valley is at least 40 miles north of Phoenix.
And there are still people to this day, even UFO investigators, who claim that this incident, 40 miles north of Phoenix, was caused by flares that were released at least 62 miles to the southwest of Phoenix.
In other words, almost 100 miles between this gentleman's physical location and those alleged flares.
And in addition, let it be said as well that this sighting took place, this gentleman sighted the time of 8:20 p.m.
And the flares were not launched until at least an hour and 10 minutes later, perhaps more like an hour and a half later.
And there are still people who argue passionately, who argue, attempt to argue cogently, although that doesn't work, of course, that the whole thing was caused by flares.
And it is terribly alarming to me.
You know, if the government can bury this one, if they can get away with this one, Argentina.
One slight exception, and it's noteworthy, in the young gal who wrote the only article that appeared, that I'm aware of, that appeared on the 14th of March, the day after, Laura from the Prescott Daily Courier.
Two weeks ago, one of the slides I showed during my presentation at the UFO Congress, and the bulk of my presentation was on the Phoenix case, is my telephone bill that clearly shows my calls to Luke Air Force Base that night, a call or two to Perump, Nevada, and the next day, the 14th of March, calls all over the country to Philadelphia, to Los Angeles, and so on.
And we couldn't give the data away.
I think it's probably that people didn't believe it, or I don't know just what goes through the mind of somebody in the press.
I am developing a theory that these people in the press are sitting too close to their monitors, and the radiation is affecting the neocortex a bit.
And in the case of news anchors, I think it may be hairspray that is migrating through the cranium into the neocortex.
She was on the northeast corner of Phoenix looking northeast, and the flares were probably 70 or 80 miles behind her to the southwest.
And newspapers, people in the press, people in the Air Force are still arguing, still arguing, passionately, Art, that the whole thing was caused by a bunch of flares dumped out by some Air Force A-10.
It was a major sighting above a major U.S. city, and it went dead for three months, and then all of a sudden, boom, there it was.
So you guys tell us, all right, look, we're going to wrap this up.
But Peter, I want to do as I've done before.
And your organization, haha, not Fortune 500, is a very small organization with a computer, a couple phones, a couple of volunteers, and it operates on shoestring budgets.
Shoestring budgets.
I was going to say fumes, you know, if you're in an airplane, you operate on fumes.
So if people want to donate a couple of bucks, a few bucks to you to keep the phones running up there, where do they send it?
All right, I'm going to switch gears radically for a second.
I'm going to tell you about something that, well, you can digest it for yourself and decide what it all means.
All right?
As you know, I've lost a lot of close friends in the last year, year and a half.
One of them was an ex-FBI agent named John.
And prior to his untimely death, he had the flu for about three weeks.
Earlier today, I talked to Daniel Brinkley, who's a friend of mine.
And he's had the flu now for, I don't know, five or six days, and it just converted itself to pneumonia.
And about everybody I know has been getting the flu, and it's been quickly converting to pneumonia.
Maybe it's unusual.
Maybe it's not.
I think it is.
Let me read this to you.
Hi, Art.
Everyone I know has this strange cold slash flu combination.
It's been going around this winter.
In fact, I have it now again, and this is the fourth time in the last four months that I've contracted it.
But the reason for this short note is, last night, I went to a movie, and it was surprising to me that before the flick began, there was a public service type message asking people to call the IGOT flu number.
The message was not a moving commercial announcement, but just an ad.
Now, whoever is doing this health research is advertising in the movie theaters for feedback.
And then I just got this media alert from the National Flu Surveillance Network.
Late peak for flu season poses unique dangers.
This is from the National Flu Surveillance Network.
Oklahoma City.
Experts with the National Flu Surveillance Network are warning the peak of the flu season is striking late this year, posing an unexpected health risk from influenza into March, a time when physicians and patients are lowering their guard against it.
Peak influenza time is a dangerous time.
Commonly during peak season, it is easy to assume all flu-like illnesses are flu.
A clinical diagnosis for flu in the doctor's office without a definitive influenza test can allow a diagnosis of bacterial illness to be missed, which can result in unnecessary deaths.
Influenza will likely continue this year into April because of the lateness of this particular season.
So there you have it, and I echo what the person who sent the first facts is saying.
Just about everybody I know has been stricken, if not once, possibly multiple times.
Many of them are beginning to turn into pneumonia.
Then you turn quickly to antibiotics, which are seemingly having much less effect right now.
So I just thought I'd drop that on you and let you all digest it for whatever it's worth or not worth.
Revisiting a couple of earlier topics, listen to this one from Joni in Arvada, Colorado.
Art I have a second-hand child incidence.
Several years ago, I was given this account by a friend.
She was driving with her three-year-old niece.
Her niece suddenly simply said, Auntie, do we have to keep doing this?
My friend replied, yes, honey, we have to keep driving until we get there.
Her niece quickly responded, no, no, no.
I mean dying and being born again and dying and being born again and dying and being born again.
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I mean dying and being born again and being born again.
If we make the assumption that there are indeed big ships out there that are, you know, quarter mile, three miles big, and that they are of terrestrial origin, where would they store these things?
I had a number of UFO investigators whose names won't come to mind right now who came back and related these interviews to me.
But yes, oh, yes, they saw not just a craft, but they saw the creatures from the craft, these little girls, and they gave identical accounts, very specific accounts of what they saw, these creatures they saw.
Now, again, again, sir, how can there be this many extremely credible close encounters without our government being aware of it?
They are aware of it is the answer, And therefore, it is, as Peter said, the biggest lie ever told.
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That's true.
You know, in this case, you would hope that governments like, say, Brazil would not be like the U.S. government and cover it up.
Seems like every third or fourth person has picked this thing up.
Yes, I'm the only thing I hear that seems to knock it loose is colloidal silver or what they're calling oxygen therapy.
One thing I wanted to pass out to people, there's an awful lot of talk here lately about Russians possibly preparing for a first strike.
And I just thought I'd share with people that there has been a warning by a group, Prophecy Club, that says that when there's internal fighting here, sort of an internal revolution, like when Ed Names indicated they may be coming for our guns, that that's the time that they're going to take advantage of and do the first strike.
So if people want to check that out, they are on the web by that name.
So I think it'd be a good idea since things are getting kind of weird.
You do know about the military down in Andrews and pre-positioning in the 10 FEMA regions.
And here in the Bloomington, Indiana area, we're getting FEMA public service ads like you just wouldn't believe.
Yeah, I know, but they're kind of a right-wing nut type publication.
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Well, I happen to think that they've been telling the truth a lot more than the left-wing nuts out there, like Communist News Network and the others.
They do show the executive orders in that publication, which are on the government's federal register, right in the WhiteHouse.gov website, and they've been incrementally moving toward FEMA as the secret government for quite some time now.
You have some excellent guests, and you have an excellent show.
Okay, there's some things that I'd like to let our audiences know.
Okay.
For one thing, the reason that we have physical life is to grow our spirits.
And it's interesting that there's not one person on the planet that's going to take one cent with them when they die.
And it just blows my mind that people are so focused on that inwardness when there's the other end of the spectrum of the outwardness.
considering you look in the Egyptian pyramids of the drawings showing the thousands of people with stars above their head, those are people that emit their energies.
Where all we had to worry about was our car and maybe the gal.
And today we have a lot more.
We're coming up on Y2K rather quickly now, aren't we?
And even conservative organizations are recommending that you store some food.
At the very least, that you have food for, they say, a few days.
I think they're being rather optimistic, but we'll see.
If you want quality stored food, real stored food, stored food that will have a shelf life of about a decade, be ready for you anytime during that decade, and remember with stored food, if nothing happens, cool.
Eat your investment, you know, because it's actually good.
I would like to recommend the J. Michael Stevens group, and they have been in the stored business a lot longer than Y2K has been looming publicly.
They're in Salt Lake City.
That should tell you something about them.
They use containers that don't leak.
Of that, you can be sure.
They use food that is not foreign sourced and possibly contaminated.
They are an extremely reputable company that cares about people.
They really care about people.
Do you follow me?
That's an honest evaluation of this company.
If you call them, they will send you free information and you can sit there and ponder what you wish to do.
But it's something you ought to be.
Oh, and one more thing about them.
They presently have no waiting lists.
Now, that may change.
Most companies have about six months out now waiting list.
They don't because they've been gearing up for this for a long time.
The number to call, if you want information, is 1-800-377-0700.
You can call it right now, and you should.
Shouldn't you?
1-800-377-0700.
Tomorrow night, Ed Dames is going to be here.
You're definitely not going to want to miss that one.
He is going to give us the results of his viewing of the Devil's Workshop.
What do you think he means by the Devil's Workshop?
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Mike writes, rather, he's in Armagosa Valley here in Nevada, and that's just very close by.
And he writes something that's pretty sobering.
Dear Art, two weeks ago, PBS Las Vegas Channel 10 aired an episode of The American Experience about the influenza epidemic of 1918.
400 to 600,000 dead.
In October of 1918, 195,000 people died in America from influenza.
On the show, they said the reason we don't see this in the history books is because it was so horrible that we virtually have more or less erased it from our national memory.
This flu struck men in their prime, 25 to 35 years of age, more than any other group.
A few facts you might not know about it.
Of course, this flu struck everybody at every age.
In the beginning, the government denied the problem.
There was such a shortage of caskets that caskets became very valuable.
Caskets had to be guarded in order to prevent theft.
More people died of this epidemic than all of the wars in America combined.
I never heard of any of this until the program aired.
We really have erased this from our history.
Can you imagine 195,000 people dying in one month?
People wore masks that were clothed for a virus.
They said that was like trying to stop dust with chicken wire.
The masks did nothing.
They showed, in fact, photographs of baseball teams playing baseball with the masks on.
Well, Peter, I guess you could do open lines, but it's not exactly a subject that necessarily lends itself to open lines because he's kind of reporting.
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Yeah.
Well, I just wanted to see if they actually had done an autopsy on the elk that they had found.
But can you imagine an elk on the forest floor for nine days without being touched by predators?
No way.
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Actually, I used to work at a slaughterhouse, so I know exactly what it would be like.
We've had some pretty nasty stuff go through there.
Anyway, another thing is, potential theory, what if they were supposedly abducting our animals to try and somehow create an alternative food source for themselves on their own planet?
I mean, what happens if their source of food doesn't grow as quick as ours?
Because, I mean, within a year to two years, you have a full-grown animal.
As the Hawaiians would say, every time I hear about one of these, it gives me chicken skin.
It really does.
I mean, this one does freak me out a little bit.
First of all, there's something about a child who barely has learned to talk, talking about being an adult in a past life that just really freaks me out.
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Yeah, but I really believe that we do live in different lives, and we keep living it until we have perfected it or we have mastered what we're supposed to accomplish or whatever.
But as we get older, from a young kid, we tend to forget those things that are in our past lives.
And I've done a past life regression with my mother before, and I really believe into it because I saw myself as a different person.
And then other people that are in with our lives are in with our lives here, as in this year, our lives now.
They were connected with us before in the past life.
And she had a past life regression done, and the child that she had before was me and died at, I think it was like eight years old or, you know, somewhere around there.
But after I was eight, she, you know, lost the fear of it.
So and then finally a couple weeks ago, she had that done and she put, you know, put it together that it was me before.
And at least there's some, I appreciate it, so there's some progression.
In other words, this time you didn't die, if what you're saying is true.
I'm going to focus on this, taking it with you for a while.
How do you suppose the world...
all your stuff just disappeared.
You know, when you drew your last breath and your eyes glazed over and pupils dilated, and you, as Rush would say, assumed room temperature, if your stuff were to disappear at the same time, that really would change the world, wouldn't it?
I did report at the beginning of the program he is doing much better.
He is now sitting up.
As a matter of fact, we've got a photograph of Richard with a fluorescent finger tilted at about 19.5 degrees with all kinds of tubes attached to it in the hospital.
So if you go to my website, you will see a photograph of Richard C., post-operative, looking a little worse for the wear, to be sure, not quite in the dapper category.
You know, I mean, that you open up your chest and stuff, and you're not that too dapper a day or so later.
And let me tell you a little story at the expense of Keith Rowland, my webmaster.
Some of you who may have gone to my website earlier tonight saw something that I think should be returned to the website.
A gentleman, a very kind gentleman, I'd have to get on my site to recall his name, Keith could tell me, was at the hospital and took some photographs of Richard and scanned them and got them in so that we could have them tonight.
They are on there now, or at least one is.
Now, the first photograph, he did a little enhancement of, and as a natural artifact of the enhancement, there was a halo over Richard's head.
I say again, a natural artifact of the enhancement.
Now, I got a lot of email about it saying, oh my God, there's a halo on Richard's head.
And so Keith mentioned it to me, and I said, come on, Keith, put it back.
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Fabulous.
Tracy, why are we having a fashion show in the middle of the office today?