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Good morning, America!
This is... No, good evening, America!
Boy, you start your show off when you get it wrong for day one.
This is... This is David John Oates.
You are listening to the Saturday Night Reverse Speech Show, live from northern Montana, surrounded by beautiful snow-capped mountains and pastures and cows in the paddock.
And it's such a wonderful, beautiful, peaceful location.
We've got a great show for you tonight.
Coming up, we have reversals on Art Bell.
And his attorney, Gerard Fox.
Don't want to miss them.
My guest tonight, starting at the bottom of the second hour, will be my good friend Steve Quayle.
And we are going to be discussing reverse speech and the Bible and the soul.
What is reverse speech, really?
We're going to be talking about an amazing spiritual experience I had up here.
And to set the tone for that, here is my opening song.
I'm going to play it.
This is my opening song.
Sensations, emotions You know you are
You know you are Tonight, tonight
Tonight, living Tonight, tonight
There are visions that are blurry There are eyes that are dreaming
There are fires that reflect There is a sound for the sun within
You know you are Tonight, tonight
You know you are Tonight, tonight
In the velvet of the darkness By the sea and the sign of a vision
Turned from the darkness by the sea And the sign of the measure
They are watching, they are waiting They are waiting like the stars
They are watching, they are waiting They are waiting like a dream
Who will be coming to the light tonight?
Who will be coming to the light tonight?
The cast meeting stars on the clouds in the deep They are dancing to the blues
The writing of a man, you can't read We didn't want to miss you.
You were the star through the night when I couldn't see.
Leading on to the sea You run across through the night
When I can't see You run across
Good night.
You and I, we're flying.
We're flying.
We're flying.
Take me with you on this journey Far beyond these times, oh, no time
Take me with you on this journey.
Far, far between the time of man and time.
In the cathedral of the soul In the world of the tongue of love
In the cathedral of the fallen.
Find the answer of the question Find the hope in the ancient dream
Keep me dancing, take me to see I'll rise up and you'll meet the sea
Ooh, I'll rise up through the night, through the night Ooh, I'll rise up through the night, through the night
Ooh, I'll rise up...
Lorena McKenna, what a nice way to start the program off.
Get you in the mood for what we've got coming up.
I want to read a couple of lines from that song.
I had visions.
Find the answers.
Ask the questions.
There's nothing better than northern Montana to come up and find the answers to the many questions and find the visions that we're all seeking for.
We're walking really through the dark valley of the shadow of death and that would actually describe probably part of the events that are going on in my life right now for those of you who are following my career and the current events.
I'm sure there's no one out there who is not aware of what's going on.
I had an amazing experience on Friday that I want to talk to you about.
I came into Montana to seek peace, to clear my mind, and really to get back to the roots of my faith.
I don't talk about my faith much, but my father's a minister, I was raised in the church, and Dad was a pastor to the Australian Aboriginals in the Outback, and I had a lot of contact with the Green Time and Australian spirituality.
I was sitting in the lounge room on Friday afternoon, or maybe it was Thursday, a couple of days ago, in very deep prayer and deep meditation, and I'd been in prayer for many, many hours, looking for answers and solutions, when suddenly people came running in outside and said, David, David, come outside!
Come outside right now!
It was really at the height of my whole meditation.
I walked out the front door, And it had been raining all afternoon, snowing overnight, and the rain had just cleared.
And there was this incredible primordial mist surrounding the whole valley.
You ever experience something like that where it's so quiet and so mystical you can almost see God in the clouds?
And standing right in front of me, I've never seen anything like this, was the most incredible triple rainbow that I have ever seen.
It was in full Full, psychedelic colours.
And it seemed to begin not 20 feet in front of me.
It went right over and it was literally right in front of the house.
From one side of the gate to the other side of the gate.
And in between the rainbow was this incredible mist.
An experience I just cannot put into words.
Tears filled my eyes, and I felt a connection with God that I haven't felt in a long, long time.
And my kids came running up, and we hugged, and we cried, and we prayed out loud.
And it was as though God had placed His hand on what we were doing, and our purpose, and where we were going.
And it's the most incredible confirmation of whatever it was I was seeking that I have had in a long, long, long time.
I'll never ever forget that.
Just amazing to come up here and to see that experience right at the height of prayer and meditation was just an amazing thing.
And then I went back inside and I was going through some old reversals that I had to choosing what I was going to play for the show.
And I came across this one.
This is a reversal that was sent to me By my Vice President, Jeff Toast, who is also very active into reverse speech.
Look at that, well we get back.
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You're listening to the Thursday Night Reverse Speech Show.
I think we got cut off a little bit too soon at the end of the last break, but that's fine.
We'll get right on with it.
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We're going to be playing reversals on the Thursday Night Program on the Art Bell Show tonight.
They're looking at reversals on Art Bell and Gerald Fox, his attorney.
At the top of the hour we're going to have Robert Stephens come in for about 10 minutes and he's going to be telling us about his latest trip to JPL.
Fascinating stuff that went on there and I'm sure you'll enjoy that.
And then at 8.30 we're going to have my good friend Steve Quayle.
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He's also the host of a worldwide Christian radio program on shortwave, WWCR.
And he's going to be talking to us tonight about reverse speech and the Bible and the voice of the heart, which is going to be a fascinating thing, which I really want to look at.
I just finished telling you about an amazing experience I had walking outside and seeing the three rainbow, a triple rainbow, right in front of me.
The most amazing experience.
Then I went back inside to check some reversals I want to look at for tonight's show.
And I came across this one and it just seemed to speak to me.
This is my Vice President, Geoffrey Toast.
And he's been on the show many times, of course.
And this is him sitting down talking to a tape player About this current lawsuit that we're facing, and what do we do?
What is the objectives that we follow?
What strategies do we proceed to win this?
And this is one of the great things that reverse speech offers anyone who really wants to get serious into this, is that it gives us a direct access into the collective unconscious.
And you're tapping into wisdom that is far beyond that of our conscious mind, And getting some real insights.
And we've talked in the past about future tense reversals.
And how reverse speech will nearly all, well not nearly, always, every time I've found a future tense reversal, it has actually predicted itself and come to be true.
So on that note, listen to this one.
This is Vercel and my Vice President Jeff Toth talking about this current lawsuit.
People, probably the most powerful, potentially the most powerful people that there are.
Talking about some of the people that we're going to be fighting against this.
Listen to this.
Backwards it says, we'll beat the Fox on this mission.
Very campy, running at three speeds.
We'll beat the fox on this mission.
Amazing reverse.
Let's run that forwards and backwards again.
People are probably the most powerful, potentially the most powerful people that there are.
And backwards, it says, we'll beat the fox on this mission.
Here we go.
go. Now is that the metaphor fox and...
And, uh, if it's a metaphor fox, uh, fox and wolf are actually, uh, what we call a metaphor pair, um, and the wolf is the hunter and protector.
Uh, the wolf is no Noble and honourable and fights his fight with passion and honour.
The fox is similar to the wolf.
The fox also fights but the fox is devious and conniving and he cannot be trusted.
So is this a metaphor fox or is this the name Gerald Fox who is the attorney involved?
I don't know but it's a very interesting reversal.
And then the next reversal that we found on this, this is once again Vice President Jeff Toedt talking about this whole situation, trying to access collective unconscious knowledge insight into this, and this is what he says forwards.
Well the door may start sending death energy or death messages to David.
Talking about some of the death threats that I've been receiving.
What do we do about them?
And backwards it says, fight the internet site.
Fight your internet fight!
Fight your internet fight!
And that's not as clear as the first one, we'll beat the fox on this mission, but it's
certainly there.
This is getting direct information from the collective unconscious.
Fight your internet fight.
Listen to this once more.
So, and let's revisit the other reversal.
This is once again on my Vice President, Jeff Toast.
And here it is once more, the very first reversal I played.
And backwards it says, we'll beat the fox on this mission.
We'll beat the fox on this mission.
will beat the Fox on this mission.
Will beat the Fox on this mission.
Amazing reversal.
OK, what we're going to do now is we're going to go to the reversals that we've found so far on the Thursday Night Art Bell Show.
Now this is only a very preliminary sampling.
I'm only about 10 minutes into the tape.
So we've got a good another 40 minutes of tape analysis to do and I'll be doing that next week and we'll have the whole reversal for my Reverse Feet Show next Saturday night.
So you don't want to miss out on that.
And I'm going to be gradually coming out with the many other reversals I have on Art Bell and Art Bell Shows, and we're going to gradually start to bring these out in the Reverse Speech Shows over the next few weeks, just to see what we are looking at.
But some of you may be a little bit surprised to hear the content of these reversals, and we are going to begin.
I'm just moving over to this sub-directory right now.
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There is no video feed tonight because I'm on location.
Um, but we're going to look at some of these reversals now.
The very first reversal is on Art Bell.
Let's run this forward first.
Doing this and he would say, well, it was a message that got out.
I didn't mean for it to get out and I'll pull it down and he'd pull it down.
But then it's too late.
You know, it's out there.
And he's talking about some of the very early stages of how our feud began.
Uh, he's obviously very congruent and obviously means it.
And this reversal actually quite touched me when I heard it.
But we have to go to a break right now, folks.
You're going to have to wait till we come back from the break to hear the very first reversal on Art Bell.
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Dad, I don't think our campfire's totally out.
Are you kidding me?
I know when a campfire's out!
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No, it's out!
We don't have to...
Who said that?
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Thursday night program of Bart Bell and Gerald Fox.
This is just the first installment.
The rest of them will come next week.
We are looking at the very first reversal I found on Mart.
And this is a reversal rather very beginning where he's talking about the very start of our feud.
Well, coming up.
Doing this, and he would say, well, it was a message that got out.
I didn't mean for it to get out.
And I'll pull it down, and he'd pull it down.
But then it's too late.
I don't need and I don't want it.
I don't need and I don't want it.
that he didn't like. He obviously means that because Reversal says, I don't need and I
don't want it.
I don't need and I don't want it.
A very, very congruent statement there. Obviously, he meant what he was saying.
Okay, now this is another whistle on Art Bell.
Let's have a look at this forward.
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He's actually talking about reverse speech here.
David John Oates, who has been a guest on my show many times, with his reverse speech thing.
And it had, and I still think, is quite entertaining.
It was quite entertaining.
And he says I think it was quite entertaining, and he's being very congruent in this statement too.
Obviously believes there's something to reverse speech, because he says in reverse, see ya, see ya voice down there.
See you, I can hear a voice down there.
Well actually, you know what, the word there is a little bit imprecise.
If you go back to the reverse speech checkpoints that we covered last week, Uh, we would have to, uh, discount that last word.
Probably the last two.
And it's probably more like seer, seer voice.
Talk about reverse speech.
The extra voice, the voices of the unconscious, or the heart or the soul speaking.
Here is that reversal again.
And again.
And again.
OK, now we're going to go to Gerald Fox and in this reversal, in this section of the conversation,
he's talking about the case being transferred to federal court, which was a motion that
I made to the court, which indeed was passed.
Said the score was not 1-0, as he said, but it's 1-1.
So, conveniently, he forgot that motion.
That went through.
OK, let's have a listen to this.
And his decision was to remove the case from state court to federal court.
Which can be done if an out-of-state defendant wishes to do so.
So the case is now pending.
I guess the first significant development is it is now pending in federal district court in downtown Los Angeles.
And that was something you didn't oppose.
You actually prefer to be in federal court, I take it?
Okay, now Fox gives the impression he prefers to be in Federal Court 4, well that's a question that Art asked, but when you listen to the forward dialogue you can hear he's a little bit shaky about it, and the reversal certainly appears to confirm this.
Fox is not being as congruent here as Art was being in his first two reversals, because his reversal on this one says, they're nuts and they signed it, talking about my motion to move it to Federal Court.
There's no such thing as signing it.
There's no such thing as signing it.
Okay, not being completely honest there.
Let's run that again.
Here we go.
Okay, then we've got a metaphor, one of those horrible little pesky metaphors coming up.
This is a metaphor of great meaning.
Let me run it first, then I'll discuss its meaning.
It simply says, the surf is singing, and that binds us.
Metaphoric statement.
Listen to this.
The surf is singing and that binds us.
Very significant reversal there.
In reverse speech, the metaphor surf is the movement or the flow of life.
It's the natural occurring events that happen through life.
And to sing means that it's in control.
It's the surf is singing.
Things are well in motion.
Moving along very, very well.
And that binds us.
There's almost no choice here.
This is something that has begun.
It's moving along.
And we are bound by it.
There is nothing that we can do about it.
So we're looking at two things.
Talking about the move into Federal Court.
They're nuts and they signed it.
Followed by the cert.
It's singing and that binds us.
Notice how those two reversals rhyme.
Very, very common in reverse speech to see this incredible rhythm come out.
And when I publish my next book, which is being written right now as I speak, and we're going to talk about my next book, and one of the reversals coming up, surprisingly enough, you'll see many, many proses and poetry in reverse speech.
Very, very amazing.
The voice of the unconscious almost seems to sing sometimes, speaking in rhymes, And a rhythm and these eloquent statements.
Here are these two reversals back-to-back.
Actually, let's run the whole lot forwards and run those two reversals back-to-back again.
Well, we'll try to run it back-to-back, and you know what happened then.
I didn't have my volume turned up on the mixing board, so here we go.
His decision was to remove the case from state court to federal court, which can be done if an out-of-state defendant wishes to do so.
So the case is now pending.
I guess the first significant development is it is now pending in federal district court in downtown Los Angeles.
And that was something you didn't oppose.
You actually prefer to be in federal court, I take it?
Well, I'll tell you... Okay, and this reversal seemed to indicate he's not as confident about this as he would like to let on.
They're nuts and they signed it.
There's no such thing as training.
And the next reversal we're almost, this is a movement that is happening almost beyond our control.
The surf is singing and that binds us.
Well?
OK, the next reversal is very interesting.
It raises a question.
Why did I choose this particular interview to reverse?
And not the four hour one?
And that was done A couple of months ago, well a month ago or so, when this case first broke.
And this next reversal might explain it, and I think we're going to have to follow his advice.
Let's run it forward first.
Mr. Rhodes certainly has acknowledged service, and not only has he acknowledged service, he answered and filed his own countersuit against you and several others.
Although I believe he has only served you.
Alright.
And... Okay, now of course we are reversing Bell and Gerald Fox in this interview, and I think it's only fair.
to reverse me as well as Gerald Fox says backwards reverse the Aussie.
We reverse the Aussie.
So I guess we're going to have to do that.
We will look at some of my reversals next week as well.
Okay, let's one we're looking at right now is we're looking at a reversal.
I'm not too sure who this is. I think this is Gerald Fox once again.
To coin a phrase from one of your colleagues in Rome, scoreboard it's one nothing Art Bell.
And Mr. Rhodes is...
Oops, sorry.
We'll start that again.
To coin a phrase from one of your colleagues in Rome, scoreboard it's one nothing Art Bell.
And Mr. Rhodes is down one to nothing.
He of course...
Nothing.
He of course...
Okay, now Fox is going to have to go back to his books here and check how to do scores
because it's not one nothing, it's one one.
Because we had a motion approved to transfer the case to Federal Court, and Fox obviously knows that he needs to go back to his books and learn how to do his maths, because Reversal says, I lost the old books.
If I lost the old books, he's going to have to wait until we get back for the break.
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Reversals and Art Bell and Fox, much more to come.
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We're looking at reversal.
Okay, we're back once again. We're looking at reversal.
Marcel and Gerald Fox on the Thursday night show. Some people in the reverse speech chat
room, which I'm logging into right now, are questioning the validity of some of these reversals.
I would like you to perhaps call in and talk about it.
I thought I was being very fair in the ones that I found and documented, and particularly this one on Art Burleigh that I found right at the very beginning.
I want to go back and replay the very first one I looked at Burleigh right at the very beginning.
The Bell's reversals are very Grunt.
He certainly believes in what he is saying, and he's actually come out very, very good in this reversal analysis.
It's Fox who's been a little bit fly in this one.
But let's have a look at him.
...doing this, and he would say, well, it was a message that got out.
I didn't mean for it to get out, and I'll pull it down, and he'd pull it down.
But then it's too late.
You know, it's out there.
And obviously meant this, because reversal simply says, I don't need and I don't want it.
Talking about a post I made on the Internet back in the beginning of this feud.
I don't see it and I don't want it.
Very clear reversal.
We were looking at a reversal on Gerard Fox.
Talking about the... I think this one was talking about the score on the case so far.
Reversal on this one was if I lost the old books, whatever that means.
If I knocked the old books.
If I knocked the old books.
Well, we didn't play the first one.
Let's run those again.
A little bit unclear.
That one doesn't meet all the checkpoints.
Alright, so let's move on to the next one.
This is also on Gerard Fox talking about my countersuit, I think.
Let's run it forward.
Gettin' evil with Derpy?
apparently ended his relationship with his first set of attorneys
uh... and is following all sorts of papers that would be indicative of his
having discussions attorneys but has yet to secure the services of a law firm willing to
put their name on the papers he's filing in court
so you mean there's so this reverse was seen to indicate he wasn't all that
impressed with the uh...
papers that i filed because he says backwoods give evil with your papers
it's good to know you've got your papers very clear reversal i think
The word paper, the S on it's a little bit soft.
Let's do it again.
And then Bill makes a comment straight after and says this.
So these are being issued from a farmhouse or something or another in Montana?
Well, who knows?
Okay, now the who knows is not a true statement because Gerard Fox and my attorney have been in communication with each other.
And she is a female attorney, as Art Bell is well aware, because Reversal says, her sly mouth.
They do not like the papers my attorneys have filed.
Fox calls them evil, and Bell then says, her sly mouth.
Her sly mouth.
Very, very clear reversals, I think.
Let's run those again.
Here it is, forward.
Rhodes has apparently ended his relationship with his first set of attorneys.
Uh, and is filing all sorts of papers that would be indicative of his having discussions with attorneys, but has yet to secure the services of a law firm willing to put their name on the papers he's filing in court.
So you mean there's... So he obviously, as I said, did not like the papers filed, uh, calling them, give evil with your papers?
Gettin' evil with your papers.
Gettin' evil with your papers.
And then Bill questions the source of these documents here.
So these are being issued from a farmhouse or something or another in Montana?
Well, who knows?
Not entirely true because the attorneys have been in contact with each other.
I have a female attorney.
Her name is Linda Myers.
You'll be hearing from her very soon.
And backwards, Bill obviously knows it's a female attorney and doesn't like the papers and doesn't like her writing.
You're a sly mouth.
Alright, good.
Art Bell has been very, very congruent throughout all of these, uh, through all the reversals I've found on him.
What he's saying forwards is what he means in reverse.
First line of mouth.
First line of mouth.
Well...
First line of mouth.
Well, that's probably not totally true on that one.
Ha! Okay, let's, uh, let's, uh, move on then to, uh, Art Bell.
And this is, uh, let's see what we've got here. We'll run it forwards first.
Alright, good. Uh, now, uh, Mr. Oates, uh, with Mr. Stevens' name on it, has, as you pointed out, filed this counterclaim.
I'll see you next time.
Ouch.
Doesn't like the counterclaim.
Backwards he says, slap them up.
Slap them up.
Okay.
There we go.
Alright, let's, uh, move on.
Uh, what do we have here?
We, uh, have another reversal on Gerard Fox, I believe.
Let's run this forward.
Yes, he has suggested that you have, uh, Okay, now this reversal, he's obviously aware I'm writing a book.
We did talk about this.
I'm about three quarts away, so it's only a metaphor book two, which begins where it's only a metaphor book one ends.
judge that because they... Okay, now this reversal, he's obviously aware I'm
writing a book, we did talk about this, I'm about three quarts away through
It's Only a Metaphor book two, which begins where It's Only a Metaphor book one
ends, and the book two is fascinating, fascinating reading, it entitled It's
Only a Metaphor, this lawsuit being served now is very appropriate for the
whole title because this lawsuit began over one metaphor.
It's only a metaphor.
Incredible, incredible irony to the whole metaphoric books that I'm writing about the history of reverse speech and the development of the theory.
This reversal, the first part is very clear.
It says, see Oates, followed by, write this novel.
There's actually two words in between there.
You've actually got two reversals.
See Oates, write this novel, and there's two words in between that says should he.
See Oates, very quick, should he write this novel.
Let's do it again.
The Earth should be back to normal. The Earth should be back to normal. The Earth should be back to normal.
The Earth should be back to normal.
I'm not sure now, but it's fairly common knowledge that I'm writing It's Only a Metaphor book two, which, believe me, folks, when that comes out, oh boy, is that a book and a half, I tell you.
It's incredible.
It's the only words I can say.
Let's run it forwards again.
He has suggested that you have spent the better part of the last several months attempting to destroy his career over Uh, on your radio program.
And of course, your listening audience, I think, is in the best position to judge that, because they... And, uh, the reversal says, See Oates, very quick, should he, followed by, write this novel.
It's the origin of the Magnus novel.
And of course, one of the scenes from our first book, It's Only a Metaphor, has now become very, very publicized, and
that's the...
Shootout, I talk about, with supposedly four men involved in the shootout, and when you go and read that book you'll see exactly what happened there.
A story that was relayed to me, supposedly, a shootout that occurred.
However, I state in the book, I don't believe it did, I think it was all rubbish and a con, but you can go and read all of that.
It's only a metaphor.
You can certainly get that by calling my office at 1-800-669-5789.
800-669-5789.
I'm sure Geoffrey Toth, my Vice President, will be very, very happy to send you a copy of It's Only a Metaphor and make sure you get your order in for It's Only a Metaphor Book 2.
You're not going to want to miss this.
It's amazing what a metaphor can do.
OK, let's have a look.
We're going to continue on.
I've actually only got one more reversal to play.
This is as far as I've gone.
Well, let me just say this, though.
It's not all the reversals I've found.
And one of the great things about reverse speech is it gives you tremendous insights into the minds of the speakers and their thought processes, and some of these I'm not going to play, simply because I don't want them to know what I know.
And, you know, it's all the part of Dancing with the Fox, you know, and the game of Bluff, who's holding which cards in which hand, And reverse speech is the most amazing tool that you could ever come across to find out what people are planning and people are thinking.
And we'll finish off this with this reverse on Art Bell.
About my arrest and having served time and all the rest of that.
Um, then I began to speak out.
You're damn right.
Oops, sorry, I paused.
That's how it began.
About my arrest and having served time and all the rest of that.
Um, then I began to speak out.
You're damn right.
I began to speak out.
Correct.
Well, in this country, certainly.
And the reversal on this is that he started to speak out.
Of course he did.
He was angry.
And I understand.
Reversal says, make it up.
Now I'm angry.
But what is he making up?
I don't know.
To make it up.
Yeah, I'm angry.
To make it up.
Yeah, I'm angry.
To make it up.
Yeah, I'm angry.
There we go.
OK.
All right.
So there we go.
There are all the reversals I've got.
Well, certainly the ones that I'm willing to play on the air at this stage.
The other ones I don't want to let out because it's just simply illegal strad.
Dr. G, that is the best for people not to know what I know.
So what we're going to do is we are going to go back to the reversal that was found on my Vice President, Geoffrey Toth, when he was in the tape player talking about this whole thing.
Let's run it forward.
People are probably the most powerful, potentially the most powerful people that there are.
And backwards he says, we'll beat the fox on this mission.
Followed by this next reversal that was found on Jeffrey Toaf.
Let's run it forward.
And they start sending death energy or death messages to David.
And they're just talking about some of the things that have gone on in the back where she says, Fight your internet, fight!
Notice the very unique tonality that reverse speech has in this case.
I'd rather use an S.I.
And one thing I should tell you, the clarity on all those reversals were down somewhat,
and that is because I got that direct off the real audio feed.
Now, the real audio, for some reason, really drops down the validity factors of speech reversals.
It's only a very clipped form of audio.
It doesn't give you true reproduction.
And once we get the actual direct audio tapes of the show, we'll get the reverse straight off the direct audio and then you're going to have far clearer examples of reverse speech than what we had in this one and I'll get my staff to order them next week and we will pull off a straight off the direct feed and that will be up on my website for anyone to go and listen.
And we're going to continue following this case through reverse speech.
And let us see what the first thing you will be questing unconsciously for, the soul itself,
has to say about what's going on as we look into the heart of man, determine motives,
and gender, and see in our relationship with God himself.
That's what we're getting to see.
Well, when he comes on, at the bottom of the hour, we're going to be talking about coming up, we'll have Robert Stephens for the first 10 minutes, talking about his amazing trip to JPL.
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Might hang around here for the 4th of July, I think.
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Had some good feedback from the first hour of the show.
Point of fact, good is the understatement.
Yes, some great feedback.
I've had a couple of people suggest that we should make it a reverse speech project to do reversals on this lawsuit.
Fox and Bell and all other parties involved, to be frank, this is probably the best project That we as reverse speeches can put reverse speech too.
Let's begin to practically use it to decipher and uncover information and give us an inside track that no one has ever ever had before in any lawsuit.
I think we'll start to do it on the depositions and discovery as they come up and I would openly invite all reverse speech people to begin to look at these.
I suggest that we look at the December 30th broadcast Particularly look at December the 10th broadcast, which is where Art Bell spent 10 minutes to 5 minutes, sorry, talking about me allegedly being responsible for racist posts on the internet.
Let's have a look at that.
Let's have a look at the 4-hour show.
Let's have a look at the show last week.
And so I'm officially making this now a reverse speech project to analyse reversals on all the key players in this lawsuit.
Robert Stephens, myself, I'll devote a special page on my website to this.
And we can actually begin to really get our teeth stuck into this and really see reverse speech being put to play here.
And this will be very, very exciting, I think.
So thank you to all those who made that suggestion.
It's a very, very good idea.
And let's see what's really going on behind this.
What is the real intent behind this and what are the inside strategies and agendas of the key players?
And wow, what an incredible use for reverse speech and what an amazing shift in the whole legal process.
I've done some work for attorneys in deaf positions and there was one case I worked on in L.A.
where the information obtained from the reverse speech actually won the case for the defense.
The attorney I was using for back then, key information was uncovered on one of the plaintiffs in the case that actually led to the lawsuit being won.
So we're going to really start to look at that.
You need to look at it from the original tapes.
What you're going to have to do is you're going to have to phone in to JCORE or whoever you buy the audio tapes from and get it from the tapes.
As you noticed, the reversals were low in clarity and that's because I took it directly off the real audio feed.
Now, real audio signals do greatly reduce the clarity of reversals because of the way it's processed.
You've got to get audio in its pure form To get pure reversals.
It's a fallacy that if you apply signal processing or any form of equalization to the reversals, you can make them clearer.
That is not true.
The opposite occurs.
You've got to capture them in their true form.
Especially if you can get them digitally, which of course you can't do off the air, but that's going to give you the clearest reversals of all.
Reversals are so sharp and fine, any attempt to process the signal is going to greatly reduce Thank you, David.
Good to be back.
It's good to have you back, my friend.
Now, you're at JPL.
All right, with me in studio here is Robert A.M. Stevens, who's just come back from an
amazing trip to JPL.
He's got some incredible photos up on his website.
So we're going to have a chat with him, and we're going to find out what he was doing
in JPL, and et cetera, et cetera.
Robert, welcome to the show.
Thank you, David.
Good to be back.
It's good to have you back, my friend.
Now, you were at JPL.
What was the purpose of that trip?
Well, it was threefold.
the purpose of that trip? Well it was threefold.
On this particular visit, the unmanned side of our space achievement is, of course, JPL, the Jet Propulsion Lab.
This is first reconnaissance to areas out on the frontier that ultimately will be places where man will set foot.
That's why the emphasis on Mars and all of the planetary structures on out to Pluto.
So, the main emphasis was going over the upcoming missions.
The second big event was the Large Spectral Telescope Array that will allow us to see sub-Jupiter mass size objects within 35 light years of planetoid structures that are very nearly that of Earth and up to and including planetary objects the size of Neptune and Uranus.
Some of them seem to appear to be Blue or sapphire in color, meaning that they are nitrogen and oxygen prevalent, which then of course means that they must have carbon dioxide present.
And anyone that lives on Earth can easily extrapolate that we are looking at objects that very well may be Earth-like.
And that was probably the premier issue of these meetings.
Was going over all of the rover-type projects coming up, not only on comets, asteroids, but back to Mars.
Now, I believe you're working on or giving advice about the motors on the rover, and miniature or motory is one of your specialties, I believe.
Yes, it is.
One of the things that I was evaluating on the present rover and the prototype Sue Joyner, also for S-IV, the small rover that will land on a comet and recon that comet, was that they're using Maxson micromotors.
That's a good product.
However, it is the low end of the spectrum.
The next generations of rovers will venture as far as a mile from the lander.
This means that the vehicle itself must be awfully durable.
They're six-wheel drive, they're fully articulated.
However, The Fallhaber micromotors that are built and constructed in Fallhaber, Switzerland, the most advanced micromotors in the world, and those which are used on the shuttle, those are the proper motoring device for any kind of rover vehicle.
And so the assessment analysis was to see the cost factor of rotating the future rovers, as well as the ones that are getting ready to be deployed in upcoming missions, over to a Fallhaver micromotor drive rather than a Maxson drive.
We're going to process and look at that more carefully over the next two months.
In the back of your farmhouse here you've got a mini train set and I've been looking at those and those mini motors in the train sets and that's your hobby I guess and is that as a result of your work on the Rover or just coincidental or incidental to it?
Well, actually two-fold.
I got real interested in early lumbering and logging because that's what I did before I entered aerospace in 1979.
The Fallhaber micromotors I use in miniature one-to-one scale models made out of brass and steel that are prototypes of the real thing.
OK.
Robert, we've got a call on the line.
I don't know whether you're going to be able to hear this, but let's see how we go because we've got a very basic breadboard set up here.
Was there a caller on the line, or did the caller go?
Caller's gone.
OK.
We did have a caller, but they hung up.
So get back to what you were talking about.
And one of the things that Stillwater Mills Aerospace does is build prototype models, whether they be aerospace models or whether they be models for the movie industry or for early transportation, in this case railroad equipment.
I have a love for early lumbering and logging based on rail, so I use the Fallhaber micromotors to power those museum class or type models that are actually functional prototype models of the real thing.
Right.
I've got someone in the reverse speech chat room right now who's a little bit surprised to hear you talking about all of this.
I thought you were just an artist for NASA and a little bit surprised to hear you talk about some of your other involvement.
Do you want to come in on that?
My involvement with the agency, though, I have never worked for NASA.
I do not work for NASA now, and I never will work for NASA, by choice, in civil service.
But as a contractor, my interface with the agency has been two-fold.
First has been the art documentation, the fine art documentation, which is interfaced with the Smithsonian.
And that is one element, and that's a visual interpretation of shuttle and so forth, all of space-related adventures that we're ensconced with.
The other side, and the most lucrative side of what I do, is the technical CAD renditioning, high-end imaging of shuttle itself for all the various contractors and vendors that work for NASA or provide parts, the shuttle itself, and that for NASA, as well as ascent, on-orbit activities, and landing.
And that's my main venue, main vernacular, and that's the main things I concentrate on.
On all the various vendors.
Right now I'm doing a job for Pratt & Whitney and for Fairchild Republic.
Okay.
Amazing.
A photo up on the Behold bulletin board of you standing in front of... What actually is that you're standing in front of, Robert?
Yes.
Strangely, that's Voyager 2.
The original prototype Voyager is out at one quarter of a light year from solar space.
The lab at JPL that works with Voyager is still communicating with it at 50 bits per second interface.
Very, very low voltage.
Voyager's happy, doing well.
It's out in the vacuum of the high frontier.
But it's still sending back signals.
It's a 70 meter band.
And we're still communicating back with it.
Good stuff.
Okay, that was Robert AM Stevens.
We may leave him over after the break to take any calls if you wish to speak to him.
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♪♪♪ We have spent the first hour going over reversals on Gerard
Fox and Art Bell.
Um...
We have issued a reverse speech project to all reverse speech students out there, and that is to let us as a reverse speech community analyse this whole lawsuit from the reverse speech perspective.
Getting reversals on the key players, filing out their motives and agendas, who's lying, who's not lying.
All these reversals can be emailed to me at my reverse speech reversals address, and that is not my main A backwards address, that is the email address, write this down, is reversals at reverse speech dot com.
Email all reversals to me at the following address, reversals at reverse speech dot com.
And please try to keep the sound bytes down to no more than 30 seconds, otherwise it's going to clog up my email server.
If you can send them to me at 22 kilohertz, 16 bit, that's the format I prefer them in.
I need a section of the forward dialogue and you know what?
There's probably no need to even dump the reversals when you send them in to me because I usually re-dump them anyway and clean up all the dumps so they're nice and crystal clear and precise.
So all you really need to do is to send me the forward section and tell me what the reversal is and I can find it and clean it up and we'll put it all up on the website and we'll open up a special page for this.
And the legal community might find this very, very interesting to see a lawsuit progress through reverse speech.
Now, of course, this cannot be used in court.
Someone has set up on the board here, how is a jury going to react to this?
Well, the reversals will never get to court.
Although, I should point out that there has actually been a press that had set in the Judas Priest trial in 1991 in Reno, Nevada, where the plaintiffs sued Judas Priest Um, for, uh, supposedly, uh, reversals in their song, um, album, Stain Class.
And actually, I might even pull one of them up and play for you.
Uh, reversals, they claimed that reversals in the song Stain Class was subliminally suggestive, and it caused one of the teenagers to suicide.
Um, now that case did not win.
Uh, the judge ruled against it.
Um, but one of the, uh, one of the side benefits of his ruling was that everyone One of the things that I have completely overlooked was that he ruled that these backward messages did exist.
That was in his ruling.
And so there is actually a precedent in law now for reverse speech to come into court.
And the reason why he knocked it back was because he said there was no evidence put forward that would indicate that they were subliminally suggestive.
But the fact is, it has already been in court.
And there is a ruling.
And so we already have precedent, if some brave attorney ever wants to use that.
And let me just play you one of the reversals on this Judas Priest song, seeing it has come up.
This is from the album Stained Class, and the song is Beyond the Realms of Death, and I'm just loading this sound file up now, and I think this is the right one.
I'm never too sure, and I haven't prepared these things.
Let's have a look at this.
I think this is the last stanza of Judas Priest's song, Beyond the Realms of Death.
Well, I guess it is.
I was amused by that, because you can barely hear the forward dialogue on that, but when you run it backwards, the reversal is very clear.
It simply says, I took my life.
Listen to this, backwards.
Isn't that clear?
That's clearer than a forward.
Here it is again.
Yeah, Robert Stephens just saying, what do you think of this Robert?
Do it at one more speed.
Crystal clear, huh?
I'm amazed that it was crystal clear.
No propping, no anything of what the lyrics says in reverse.
This is it. Amazing.
Amazing.
Now they actually played reversals in court on the Judas Priest trial and the judge did hear them and ruled that they did exist.
So we already have reverse speech on the books and one day it's going to come into the court system.
Huh.
You know, I'm almost getting an idea.
I wonder whether we could use reverse speech in this current lawsuit.
There's certainly a legal precedent set for it.
I don't think it tended to use it on the investigatory level, but this case is going to get nationwide media attention.
What better way to get reverse speech out into the public?
I'm going to ask one of the members of the household to come over here.
He doesn't know I'm calling him over, and this is Scott Johnson, who lives in the farmhouse here.
And he was watching me find reversals.
And as he watched me, he was aware that this was a very stressful process.
When I was finding reversals on this, Scott... First of all, let me introduce you.
This is Scott Johnson.
You don't need to put the headphones on, Scott.
Just talk into my microphone.
Welcome to the show, Scott.
Thank you, David.
What was it like watching me find the reversals on this Fox Bell interview?
Totally amazing.
Honestly?
It was amazing to me.
What I heard, I did not expect.
Oh, really?
Really.
Huh.
And what amazed you the most about it?
Just how clear they were, or my reaction to it?
Well, both our reactions to it.
As you listen, when it's backwards, it's unexplainable.
Like I say, you get a lot of the gibberish, and then the phrases that do come out, it's unbelievable.
It's stunningly clear, aren't they?
Stunningly clear.
Very easy to track.
Reverse speech has its very own unique waveform signature that can be recognised on a computer.
We've actually got programmed software on the workbench now that is finding speech reversals.
All we need is probably, if I had the funding of about a million I'm sure that we could get a program out within just a few months that would actually use voice recognition to locate and decipher speech reversals.
I want you to hang on, Scott.
I'm going to ask you some more questions about this.
We have to go to a break right now.
We'll be going to my guest, Steve Quayle, when I get back.
But I've got just a few more questions to ask you, if that's OK.
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You're listening to the Tonight Reverse Speech Show.
My guest, Steve Quayle, is on the line.
But I'm going to ask him to hold for just about five minutes because I want to finish off this segment that we're currently on.
And we're talking to Scott Johnson, one of the members who live in this household here, and we're talking about discussing what it was like for Scott to see me find these reversals.
And you mentioned, Scott, that it was amazing how clear it was to come out of the gibberish.
Very clear, yes.
What I was mostly amazed about is you've been doing this for 16 years.
Correct.
And as we listen to the reversals, you get very excited.
Oh, I do?
Yes.
Oh, huh.
Well, I think it's just that moment of discovery, you know?
It's always exciting to find that gem, like a needle in a haystack.
You finally touch it, you know?
Yeah.
There was one reversal, if you remember, that I had a fairly strong emotional reaction to, and that was the metaphor.
The surf is singing and it binds us.
That was clear.
Describe my emotional reaction when I found that.
Well, like I say, it was a metaphor, and what I found amazing was that The way you explained it was quite amazing.
You put those three words together, the surf and singing, and it says a lot once you explain it.
Yeah, the metaphors really are the key to reverse speech.
They really, really are.
The metaphors are the logos of creation.
It is the divine self inside of us speaking.
And it speaks in metaphor, or pictures and images.
And new reverse speeches can find metaphors to be very disconcerting.
I've seen people have intense negative reactions to metaphors.
That is because the metaphors go past the conscious mind.
And go straight to the unconscious.
It is the voice of the unconscious, the metaphors.
And it can send chills down your spine.
It scares me.
I tell you what, after 16 years it scares me too.
I have great respect for metaphors.
They can really do you damage if you don't know what you're dealing with.
The truthful veils, I would say.
Absolutely.
I think someone said that on the air this week.
The truth prevails, and that truth is very, very great.
And for that reason, I think we ought to seriously consider using reverse speech in this coming caucus.
I'm a layman.
Until you came to our house, I knew nothing about reverse speech.
I mean, we all know about the Beatles and that thing, but this is... I am... I have no words for it.
It's beyond explanation.
Well, you know, what I'm struggling with right now is the next phase.
I reached the next phase of my research a year ago, quite frankly, and I'm struggling with how to cross over into that next leap.
And the next leap is the metaphors.
It is the word, the logos, the I am that speaks and so shall it be.
That's what metaphors are.
There is a language there.
Yes.
Definitely a language.
Alright, any final words, Scott?
None at all.
Thanks for having me on.
You're very welcome.
All right, we want to put Robert Stevens on for just one more time.
He's got a very quick announcement he wants to make.
And then we'll go to my guest, Steve Quayle.
Robert, the mic's yours.
Yeah, it was just the final element of the meeting of JPL was the exploration of the SETI project.
That's S-E-T-V.
You're going to hear more about that, and so is the public.
And it's very, very exciting.
Okay, S-E-T-V, which Robert's already told me a little bit about.
I'm not at liberty to say, but exciting is the understatement of the year.
That's all I can say.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Thank you, David.
You're welcome.
All right, let's go now to my guest, Steve Quayle.
For those who haven't met Steve before, many of you may not have.
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So without any further ado, let's go to the phone line, and Steve Quile, welcome to my show!
Hey, David, what a pleasure.
You know, it's been now, oh, let's say six months, maybe two years since the last time that I had you on my show, Blueprint for Survival.
I'm no longer doing talk radio as a host, but I'm guesting and trying to get the word out in what I believe is a very, very precarious period of time.
I think tonight I'm thrilled to be able to be on with you and talk about some of the spiritual aspects that I believe are coming forth in your reverse speech and in the whole language of the heart being made known.
You know, I believe that we are in a very critical period of time like many do, but I think it's important that people deal with the root of evil and not just the fruit of evil.
You know, it's interesting because ever since we've We've been doing shows together, and I think I first had you on my show, what, a little over a year, 18 months ago, maybe.
We started to talk about the spiritual realm, and I asked you, in all of the reversals that you'd done, had you ever picked up, if you will, almost a third party or a demonic presence.
And so, if we could, I'd like to sort of lay out a little bit of the groundwork for going to where we're going to be going tonight in the show, to maybe understand this whole area of spiritual conflict, you know. Science for so many
years locked itself into a box and basically became, if you will, denying some ideas. In other
words, they denied anything related to God, even though they might have acknowledged
the force out there. But I think that if you look at history, there's a wonderful, wonderful
set of historical statements. And obviously, I think the Bible details this conflict between
good and evil. And I think that that's what you're talking about when you're talking about the
metaphors that you're dealing with when you're doing your reversals.
But we're also seeing, if you will, and as you've explained to your listening audience and those who have heard you before, You're picking up some very interesting, if you will, almost overt spiritual statements, and I know that it's taken you a while where you felt free to really get into this realm with reversal.
Is that a fair statement?
Yes, that certainly is a very fair statement, yes.
Well, you know, I think that we ought to start with... I want to tell your listeners a little bit about myself.
For about the last 25 years, I've been studying The history of the world, the archaeological findings of the world, and from a standpoint of trying to put into perspective, if you will, what I would call the central germ seed of history.
And I believe it's detailed very, very nicely in Genesis Chapter 6, where basically it says, And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and that daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men, that they were fair, and they took them wives, all of which they chose.
And I think what people don't understand is the Bible details a time when there was a supernatural intervention Both before the flood and after the flood of fallen angels mating with human women and producing giants, the men of renown, which all the myths of history refer to.
Now this gets back to your book, which I didn't announce at the beginning of the show, which is called, uh, Angel, no, Aliens and Fallen Angels, is that correct?
Right.
The Sexual Corruption of the Human Race.
So we're going to talk about out-of-this-world sex tonight, but we're going to put it into a historic context and into a biblical context, because I believe this gets right into what you're picking up and what's going to become more How should I say pronounced and relevant in reversals?
Okay, then let's go for it.
I fully admit that the whole spiritual aspect of reverse speech is something that needs a lot of explanation.
I know very little about it.
I've got my opinions.
They aren't necessarily correct by a long shot.
We have to go to a break.
My guest is Steve Quayle.
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where we've had a fresh snowfall in the mountains surrounding us.
Quite amazing for The first month of summer and really an amazing atmosphere looking out of the window here seeing the snow-capped mountains and remembering the incredible triple rainbow I saw just two days ago and I really felt as though I'd been touched by the hands of God in this trip up here and it's a feeling I have great difficulty putting into words.
I've been on a spiritual pilgrimage for many months now to try to recapture My root of my faith, which I've lost over the years doing, quite frankly, getting completely caught up with reverse speech and all the associated problems that that brings.
My guest tonight is Steve Quayle and he's going to be talking, well he is talking about some of the deepest spiritual aspects of reverse speech.
For those who may wonder what Steve's qualifications are for this, Well, he's probably best to tell you that, but I know Steve is a very, very, very strong, born again, charismatic Christian, with a lot of background in theology, and he knows his stuff very well.
Steve, back to you.
Well, David, I think it's important for the listeners to understand that of all the people in the world that have dealt with this, there's probably a handful of us that have dealt with the sexual corruption of the human race.
Now, Zachariah Fitchin, And many of the other New Age writers are taking the passages in Genesis and saying that it was the interplay between, if you will, space men
And earth women that produce the mighty men of renown, and they come up with all the different Sumerian clay tablets and all the different references.
Now, what I would like the listeners to understand is that in the book of Genesis, it literally talks about that there were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, they bare children to them.
The same became mighty men, which were of old men of renown.
Now, what I've done for the last 25 years, and this has been a passion of mine, as reverse speech has been to you, ...is to go into all the ancient writings of all the various civilizations.
And what's fascinating to me, David, is the fact that it doesn't matter what you're dealing with as far as in any part of the world and pretty much in any religious belief system, you always have this idea of the gods mating with human women and producing, if you will, a Hercules in Greek mythology.
Or the great heroes of the different myths.
And so what I did is I said, OK, now there's something interesting to me.
And even as a very, very, I'd say, this interested person, I could never handle the question of where did good and evil come from, you know?
Because we are always told that it's a Western invention.
But I can tell you this, it is not a Western invention.
So as I went and started looking at what I would call totally Neolithic cultures, As I started looking at the myths of all the most, how would I say, non-entangled natives, whether they were the jungles of Borneo or even the aborigines of Australia, your home country, the interesting thing was that they all had this central theme of good spirits and bad spirits.
In other words, individual identities and personalities largely unseen, but interfering
and messing with people's lives.
It was one of the things that caused C.S. Lewis to become a Christian, for those who
would like to know.
So what I'm saying point blank is this, that people say, what are your qualifications?
My qualifications are there's probably six or seven of us in the world who have written
who have written to the extent that I have in my book, Aliens and Fallen Angels,
to the extent that I have in my book, Aliens and Fallen Angels, a sexual corruption of
A Sexual Corruption of the Human Race, because it becomes a very big deal
the human race, because it becomes a very big deal when you're talking about reverse
when you're talking about reverse speech if there is a spiritual entity that is, if you will,
speech if there is a spiritual entity that is, if you will, parodying or superimposing
parodying or superimposing its personality upon the thoughts and speech pattern
of that which you are reversing.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Oh, I understand exactly what you're saying, and now we're coming down to probably
one of the most controversial aspects of reverse speech, and it's quite frankly one I have not wanted to touch
on my show in the whole time I've been doing it, but what is speaking backwards?
Now let me just give a little bit of background for my readers, for my listeners here.
I've covered metaphors many times on my show, and I've stated that over 70% of all the language in reverse speech is metaphor and archetype, or pictures and images.
Now I've always stated that these metaphors Life forces unto themselves.
It's very obvious to me that they have life in their own right.
We see a dialogue between different metaphoric structures.
Now, I've always explained that as the different parts of the mind communicating and interacting with each other.
The many different aspects of consciousness.
And I've always steered away from the demonic, are these demons or not?
But!
That is a very strong point of view out there that they are, in fact, are demons.
And to be frank, I don't know the answer to that.
I stick to the mainstream scientific explanation for it, but that doesn't discount what you're about to say, Steve.
So, go for it.
Well, I think it's important because, you know, here's the deal.
It's an amazing thing to me that in the world's espionage ring, in the world of intelligence, counterintelligence, That, you know, it's a standing almost joke that when Jack Anderson first revealed that the CIA and other intelligence agencies actually had everything from remote viewing to astral projecting, which means people who could displace their spirit from the body, travel to a foreign location, see what was going on and coming back.
Obviously, Buddhist monks and different religious sects have practiced astral projection, which I do not endorse.
I'm just identifying it.
And so, you know, it's an amazing thing to me, David, because, see, what I'm going to tell your listeners right now is that through the 25 years of reading literally hundreds and hundreds of volumes of different, and I would say, original writings, and going to the major architectural structures of the world, and whether it's Mesoamerica, or whether it's Angkor Wat, and looking at their legends of who built those cities, and why those cities are always oversized, and why the doors are always 14 and 18 feet tall.
And the presence of these, quote, supernatural entities and the offspring
of the supernatural entities is beyond denial.
For instance, for those familiar with the Mayans, the Mayans had a very famous king named Shambhala.
Shambhaloom was a six-fingered, six-toed, rather large individual.
And then we go to Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, when the control panel, supposedly from the ship, was set up for a six-digit control.
Interesting, huh?
You go to the book of 2 Samuel, in the Bible, you look at 2 Samuel, chapter 21, talking about Goliath's brothers, and they were six-fingered, six-toed individuals.
You go into the Old Testament, and you hear about the Rephaim and the Nephilim, and you see all these, if you will, statements about very large individuals, Og, king of Bashan, You see Joshua and Caleb going to the Promised Land declaring they were grasshoppers in their own eyes, and that the land was a horrible land, for it devoured its inhabitants.
In other words, they were cannibals.
You go and you look at the ritual sacrifice in the Mayan, the Inca, and the Aztec temples, and you find out, you can go read it in National Geographic, they practiced ritual cannibalism.
You go and you go to Easter Island and you find out that the Easter Islanders turned themselves into basically a bunch of cannibals and they ate themselves out of existence.
You go to all these things and there's always the presence of the demons.
Now, I want to share something so people understand what I'm talking about.
Demons are disembodied spirits.
In order to be disembodied, they had to be embodied at one time.
That means that they have personality, that they have a historic understanding of their own existence.
Fallen angels are a higher level of being.
They do not, fallen angels do not inhabit people.
The Bible is very clear in 1 Peter that the angels that basically created this race of giants that partook of sexual sins are held in everlasting chains of darkness.
Just those specific fallen angels.
There's plenty more out there to cause trouble.
And you know, it's interesting, David, because Noah, when he was saved, the Bible teaches that he was perfect in his generation.
That means he was not sexually corrupted.
In other words, the demon seed, if you will, was not within Noah's genetic structure.
So when God destroyed the earth because of all the perversion and the wickedness and the sexual manipulation of the human race, see, this was Satan's attempt to destroy the promise.
of God that the Redeemer would come to the seat of a woman.
And so, obviously, all Satan has to do is basically get everybody on Earth literally degenerated sexually, and he could prevent that from coming.
But there was a man whose name was Noah, who was a preacher of righteousness.
And so, what I'm talking about is supernatural entities that have been disembodied from a hybridized race of fallen angels and earthwomen.
Now, people say, well, where is that in the Bible?
I can tell you this, there's over a hundred references in the Bible, in the Old Testament alone, to this.
And in many of the pseudepigraphal writings of the Book of Enoch, which is, interestingly enough, referred to in the New Testament by both James, the brother of Jesus, and Jude, the disciple of Jesus.
So you've got a book called the Book of Enoch, and Enoch obviously was a man who walked with God and was not.
He's one of the only two people ever translated in the Bible, meaning translated, taken off Earth in the presence of Heaven, who didn't see death.
So you've got some interesting, interesting Uh, anomalies to deal with.
Now, one of the questions that I've always, uh, you know, been curious about in reverse speech is to what degree are the demon personalities identified in the reversals?
What you are calling metaphors, I am saying point blank, are the, uh, uh, memories and the active, uh, in many cases, the active personalities of evil spirits.
How can we verify that?
Well, I can tell you this, when Jesus encountered the demons, and this is going to get into a very, very heavy... I'll tell you what, David, if this isn't one of the heaviest shows you've ever had, then I don't know how to get to what I would call the stark truth of creation and reality.
Oh, I think it's getting close.
Yeah, yeah.
The point being is how you verify that is, at some point in the reversals, when you understand where these things came from, They almost, because of their pride and arrogance, go overboard to identify themselves.
For instance, when Jesus encountered the Gathering Demoniac, he asked the Gathering Demoniac, what is their name?
And they said, our name is Legion, for we are many.
In other words, Jesus encountered the ultimate multiple personality disorder in the Gathering, okay?
Right.
And whenever, it was interesting because, you know, Jesus always looked on the heart.
When Solomon, the wisest man in the world, until he got into the occult, When he asked God to give him anything, he asked him to give him a hearing heart, and we'll get into that after the break.
Right.
OK.
This is... My guest is Steve Quayle.
We are talking about some of the spiritual aspects of reverse speech.
We haven't gotten onto the voice of the heart yet.
I want Steve to get into that afterwards.
I want to look at some of the end-time prophecies that I believe directly reference reverse speech, and what Steve is discussing now.
Is the metaphors and archetypes reverse speech?
Are they in actual fact demon speaking?
And Steve has some very strong views on that.
I don't know the answer to this question.
I know metaphors are real.
I know they have power and life of their own right.
They stimulate and cause human behavior depending on how they interact with each other.
Certainly, according to some theologians, that is the very hallmarks of demonology.
Very interesting concept.
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We are back once again for the final hour of this show.
And it's been quite some show tonight, I think.
We've discussed Reverse speech and its possible uses in a court of law.
We've looked at some reversals on the current lawsuit that's been filed.
We have discussed Robert Stevens' latest trip to JPL and some of his work on the rover designed for the next mission.
And my guest now is Steve Quayle and we are discussing some of the spiritual religious aspects of reverse speech.
In particular, are the metaphors of reverse speech That's demons!
And Steve is putting forward his views on this.
Very fascinating views.
And I want to get on to some of the aspects of biblical prophecy and reverse speech.
Reverse speech being the voice of the heart.
Steve, welcome back to the show.
And incidentally, thank you so much for taking time out of your valuable schedule.
I know you've got family events going on right now.
You have left then specifically to enjoy my show, and I really do appreciate this very, very much.
Well, thank you, David.
You know, one of the interesting scriptures that has always fascinated me, I know it's one of your fascinating scriptures, too, is Matthew 12, 34, and 35, where Jesus is basically speaking to the Pharisees.
He says, So a generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things?
For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
And then he goes on to say, A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure Bringeth forth evil things.
And then in Luke 8, 817, he says, For nothing is secret that shall not be made manifest, neither anything hid that shall not be made known, and come abroad.
You know, we're sort of an intellectually schizophrenic society, David.
Unfortunately, most modern Christianity has forgotten how the early Church Fathers looked at the whole area of demons, deliverance, in other words, setting someone free from demon oppression, and the early Church Fathers, without exception, Without exception, these are the hallmarks of the faith.
These are men who were burned at the stake alive, who were chopped up.
These are men who died in the faith, believing God.
All believed, all, A-L-L, believed that the rebellious angels, a specific group within that general category, had sex with earth women, producing this hybrid giants.
And when those hybrid giants were destroyed, the spirit of the giant is what became the
evil spirit.
And that can be found in great detail in the book of Enoch.
Now interestingly enough, David, I think that when we're getting into the spiritual aspect
of this, one minute Peter, the disciple, the apostle Peter, is confessing that Jesus Christ
is the Son of the Living God, and the next minute Jesus has to rebuke him because he
is speaking from a satanic viewpoint.
Have you ever noticed that in Scripture?
Oh, sure, yeah.
Well, we can go in and out, even according to Scripture.
And I think that's interesting, because Jesus also said the whole world, in other words, the world in its entirety, the cosmos, everything in it, lies in the evil one.
Now, you can say lies, meaning makes its bed with, or lies, in other words, does not speak truthfully.
Hebrews 4.12 says that the word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword, and that it's the only thing that's sharp enough to divide between the soul and spirit, okay?
And the soul and spirit's interesting.
You know, in Greek, let's go to some Greek words.
The word for soul is psuche, or psyche, from which we get psychiatrist, psychology.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Interesting.
Listen to this.
Oh, my.
Yeah.
Now, this is interesting because in Greek, the word for spirit is pneuma, from which we get pneumatic, pneumonia.
Right.
Interestingly enough, there aren't that many words in the English language that even relate to spirit, but there are massive amounts that relate to the psuche, or the psyche, or the soul.
I want to make the differentiation for your listeners that the soul is the mind, will, intellect, and emotions.
But the spiritual man is that man that becomes, in Christian theology, renewed, born again, comes alive, and is able to communicate with God.
So there's, if you will, the continual struggle between what will rule.
Will the spirit of God reborn in a man, stay in communication with him, or will the, if you will, the psyche, or the soulish realm, meaning what we see, think, feel, Fear and respond to, well that dominates, and this is where the appetites come in.
You know, you and I have spoken in the past about appetites, and it's an interesting thing to me that when you get really into, if you will, the sexual nature of human beings, you get into a phenomenal realm of perversion.
One of the best definitions I know to give you for lust is the appetite of demons expressed through humans.
Right.
Now, it's interesting... Is that the kind of demons expressed through humans?
Yep.
Now listen, let me ask you something.
Isn't it phenomenal, isn't it phenomenal that whenever you have mass murderers or really twisted puppies, that's an American slang for people that are just literally out of their minds, that they're always talking about, they're hearing voices, Or the devil made him do it.
And you know, isn't it interesting that you can go on talk shows in America.
I think it was on Oprah Winfrey the other day, or somebody's show, that they had some guy with 24 multiple personalities.
Isn't it unusual that there are specifically distinct, not only voices, but personas coming through?
And I think this is what is so fascinating about reverse speech, David.
I think you're not looking at out of balance but at war with each other.
Okay, that's true.
being out of balance with each other. I think you're not looking at out of
balance but at war with each other. Okay. Or let's say this, the king of the
hill. In other words, what personality will maintain dominance versus what
will go into submission?
And see, this is where you get a lot of the metaphoric struggle that you anticipate, not that you anticipate, but that you pick up in your reversals.
And again, I think it's going to be fascinating for you, given, you know, let's say another view of this, to go into those metaphors and start seeing.
I'll tell you what you're going to find.
You're going to find distinct personalities.
You're going to find distinct Uh, if you will, trains of thought, and you're going to find, if you will, almost a boastful and prideful arrogance.
And this is interesting, because we know the Bible says that Satan said, I will be like the Most High God.
Well, you know, we do see those aspects in reverse speech, and there are also many different tonalities of voices speaking in reverses.
You can actually hear different cadence and Yes, and I'll tell you another one that you'll note.
Once you get your software written, David, I'm going to suggest that we'll find someone that, as an expert in voice dress analysis, and I guarantee you this, The larynx, the laryngeal patterns that appear in voice stress analysis, for your listeners, voice stress analysis is a technology that when a person lies, in other words, does not tell the truth, there is an almost subliminal nervous twitch that actually changes the muscles and the nervous response in the larynx, which indicates the person is under stress and is not telling the truth.
I maintain that you'll be able to differentiate the personalities within those pharyngeal, nasal, you know, the whole, if you will, sub-waveform of speech and it will be very easy for you to quantify for the skeptics out there that you are absolutely dealing with a secondary entity.
Wow.
Uh, you know, this is something, again, I've spent 25 years of my life on it, and I've have, uh, how should I say this, told people that if they can explain history, if they can explain the mist, if they can explain how, uh, 200 to 300 ton stones get put on each other without even, uh, so much as a razor blade being able to go through the, the crack where they meet, and if they can explain it.
Now, see, here's what's happening.
It becomes very important because when we're dealing with alien abductions, okay, and you know a lot of people, and as a hypnotist, you know a lot of people under hypnosis can recall many of the things that they were supposedly abducted.
The question is, were they truly abducted or was this a series?
of memories from a secondary entity that have been some form or another, in some form or another, transposed over the active memory of the host or the abductee.
Do you follow what I'm saying?
Oh, I understand exactly what you're saying.
Absolutely.
I've asked myself that question many times.
Right.
And so where we're at in this, when I wrote the book, Aliens and Fallen Angels, I want people to know I have over 600 footnotes in the book.
So this is not something that's, you know, one guy told me, that listened to me, he says, I don't believe all that.
And I said, well, sir, I would say this, if you will even give it one thousandth of the attention I've paid, I think you'll find that your worldview will be greatly shaken by what I'm proposing to you.
Now, why is this important in the end times?
Let's talk about the end time reversals.
As we get into the end-time reversals, David, I'm saying this, that the science of modern man is not, how should I say this, the reflection of human beings' intelligence, so much as human beings surrender to SUPRA, S-U-P-R-A, national intelligences.
Do you follow me?
In other words, we're talking about supernatural intelligence making itself known to human beings.
Let me give you a couple good examples.
Right.
One of the most brilliant examples of it was Einstein.
When asked how he got the theory of relativity, he said the spirits came to him in the night and drew it out on a blackboard before him.
I bet you never heard that before.
No!
Just going to repeat... I was going to ask you to repeat that.
Einstein, for instance, when he was asked how he got the theory of relativity, he talked about spirits.
Thomas Edison was also into spiritism.
And what I'm maintaining is that if you look at the transcapacitor, or if you look at the transistor, if you look at the technology that was, you know, Supposedly leaked to human beings, it always comes by way, in my opinion, based on ancient technology, it always comes through a spiritual realm.
It is not, if you will, in most of the cases, it is not a natural brilliance, you know?
Right.
It's fascinating.
Okay.
Steve, I think we've got a caller on the line.
Is that correct?
Let's go to the phone line.
No, we don't have a caller on the line.
I'm sorry.
I hear music, Dave.
Yeah, but we do have to go to a break.
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Okay this is David Jannite.
We are back with my guest, Steve Quayle, and yes, we do have a caller on the line, and we are now going to go to the phone to speak to Nancy from Chino, California.
Nancy, you're on the air.
Hello, David!
Hi, how are you?
Okay!
Good!
Do you have a question for my guest, or is this a general... Well, I totally disagree that metaphors are some kind of demon possession.
Okay.
Now, I've worked with these metaphors.
I've been in trance with them.
And it was through reverse speech that God talks to me.
You know, we had that reversal there.
God will answer.
And after that, I actually got into conversation with God.
Steve?
So how can you say that metaphors are demon possessions?
Steve?
Do you want to answer that?
Steve, are you there?
Okay.
Steve, can you hear my caller?
No, I can't.
Oh, you two can't communicate to each other.
Oh, gee.
OK, then let me relay the question to you.
Of course, you're both on the 800 call in line.
All right.
The question my caller had to pose to you, Steve, was that she called in and she says she completely disagrees that metaphors are a sign of demon possession.
She says that God speaks to her through the metaphors and through reverse speech.
So can you answer that question?
Sure, David.
First of all, I did not say that metaphors are a sign of demon possession.
I said in some cases where the metaphors have personality distinct and apart from the person,
it can be a spiritual entity speaking.
And I would encourage the lady to not, you know, take what I'm saying out of context,
but I'm saying in many cases there can be a spiritual secondary personality.
And obviously she's free to disagree with me just like I'm free to disagree with her.
But what I am saying about the presence of evil spirits, most people do not in Western thought processes, even...
ever allow for that and it has been known to the world for thousands of
years that there are malevolent evil spirits meaning non nice spirits out
there who are classically termed evil spirits that can superimpose their will
their knowledge and their patterns of thought and behavior on the host. Okay
Nancy could you hear that? Nancy did you hear that answer?
Okay we're having to switch your lines here because you're both in on the 800
call in line.
Nancy, did you hear that answer?
Yes, I did.
Do you have a comment on that?
Well, the metaphors do have their own distinct personalities.
That is true, yes.
But they are not superimposing their personality on me.
OK, then let me pose this question to you.
If demon possession does indeed occur, is it possible Okay, let me just backtrack.
Given the fact that reverse speech is another form of human communication, and it does exist, it is the voice of the unconscious, it is the voice of the heart speaking, and forward speech is the voice of the conscious speaking.
If demon possession is possible, and demons can inhabit our being, is it possible that if that does happen, they can use the reverse speech process I seriously doubt that.
Now Steve is not saying that he is saying metaphors are all demons, he is saying it's possible that that is so in some
instances.
If I understand Steve correctly, I'm having to communicate here because we've got two different phone lines going, you
can't talk to each other directly.
Okay.
I seriously doubt that.
What do you doubt about it?
First of all, I don't think there is such a thing as demon possession.
Oh, so we've got a basic philosophical problem here from point one.
Yes, and I also think that the reverse speech is your primary form of communication, that you learn your reverse speech before you learn to speak forwards.
Right, well I don't think Steve's denying that.
Any other questions you want me to relay on to him?
It's a bit difficult here because I'm having to sort of act as they go between.
Okay, but the metaphors, although they have their own distinct personalities, and they do look a lot like people and things like that, they are not superimposing their will or in any way putting their personality onto me.
And that God works with them freely and We can interact with them in a positive way.
All right, let me pass it on to Steve.
Steve, I guess you can't hear my caller, can you?
No, we can't hear Steve.
Okay, boys, let's go back to Steve.
Okay, David, I heard my caller.
I can hear her, David, but here's the thing.
First of all, number one, it is a philosophical, and I wouldn't say even a philosophical.
She is assuming that I'm saying that what she relates to as a metaphors in her life,
reverse speech, are demonic.
I never said that.
You correctly ascertained what I have been saying.
You correctly are ascertaining that it is possible.
You cannot claim that they have separate personality and uniqueness amongst themselves.
You can't have it both ways.
You follow me?
I follow you entirely.
She will accept the fact that metaphors have personality.
Therefore, I'd say this, she's cutting off her nose to spite her face.
And I would hope that she would be at least intellectually honest enough to consider her position in light of what I'm saying.
I'm not accusing all metaphors of being demonic.
I never said that.
Right.
All I'm saying, it is possible for very malevolent and evil spirits.
Now, if a person doesn't believe in evil spirits, but believes that there is a metaphor that has life apart from them, then what is that?
Is that a physical thing?
Is it a spiritual thing?
See, even her definitions don't even lend credence to her argument.
I think that's a very... I think this whole concept is fascinating.
Nancy, can you hear that?
Let's get back to Nancy.
Nancy, could you hear Steve?
Just because the metaphors do have their own personalities, and can interact with each other.
Right.
How does that make them, you know, anything but metaphors?
Well, Steve is not saying that the metaphors are demons, but he's saying it's possible that if this was so, that demons could be speaking through them, or using them to speak.
I think that's what he's saying.
Anyway, Nancy, thanks for the call.
This is a real hot topic.
We have to go to a break.
We will continue this when we get back.
Reverse speech, demonology and metaphors.
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You're listening to the Saturday Night Reverse Speech Show.
My guest tonight is Steve Quayle, and we have got, and Steve is the author of The Sexual Corruption of Planet Earth, Aliens and Fallen Angels.
I'm sure I don't have the title completely right, but he'll correct me on that.
I don't have a copy of the book right here in front of me, but I can picture the cover very well.
Amazing cover.
It has a face of a half-alien and half-human, and I think we'll get Steve Steve to tell us where we can get a hold of his book.
Getting some amazing responses back to this, Steve.
I'm getting numerous ICQ chat messages in.
Some people are getting quite angry.
Other people are taking it with great interest.
Some of the points being brought up is this.
What about all the positive reversals?
Is it possible that Christ and angels could also be speaking through the metaphors?
Oh, of course!
Of course!
David, here's the thing.
The point is, and boy, I'll tell you what, either I'm not articulate like I thought I was, or people are hearing what their bias demands they hear.
First of all, of course God can speak to us in metaphors.
Jesus spoke in parables, okay?
And so the metaphor is not a vehicle for evil.
That's what Nancy was trying to associate.
But what we're talking about here is a phenomenon.
What I'm saying to people is that don't misunderstand the power of reverse speech because many of the things in the reversals, David, that you are obviously picking up when you're talking about I think I need to restate this.
you know when when in reverse and it says we killed them all that certainly
isn't uh...
uh...
the uh... spirit of god speaking when you're talking about all the
shenanigans that are going on in the white house and all the reversals you've
done correct all i've clearly
so i think that it i think i need to restate this what i am saying that most
people do not understand is that many
times there are reversals and instead of the conscious or the
subconscious of the person being reversed
i asked you if you were picking up intelligences that it stood exclusively apart
from the person itself All right, let me state from my listens here where I stand on this whole, whole issue.
I have always presented reverse speech as a neutral phenomenon, another form of language.
I understand it as structurally a two-fold communication.
Language is both forwards and backwards.
I believe that metaphors are part of that.
of the unconscious mind, they have structures and life and personality of their own right.
So that being as it is, that is how I present reverse speech and that is how I teach it, certainly in my classes and certainly to my students.
That is my scientific side.
Now my spiritual side, David Oates the Christian, David Oates the man of God, believes that there are spiritual forces and spiritual realms out there that can influence us.
If they are influencing us in forward speech, then I also see that that would extend to reverse speech as well.
And that is my standing on this.
And I think Steve is bringing a valuable extra form to this discussion, I think.
Well, I couldn't be more in agreement with you.
Right.
Now, what I'm saying and trying to do, and obviously giving a lot, I mean, we're talking about something that's very difficult for people who do not believe in the spiritual realm, or if they do, only believe in it from the standpoint of it's all good and there is no such thing as evil and
there is no such thing as evil spirits or are not.
What I am finding...
Clearly there's evil.
Pardon?
Clearly there's evil.
Clearly there's evil.
And what I am telling people is this, is that, and we should get to this, that in the whole
issue of the aliens and the abductions, we're not dealing with a outer worldly experience.
We're dealing with an outer spiritual realm experience.
In other words, we're dealing with a different dimensional, what I call them, transmorphic demonic entities.
Now, then we get into either good aliens or bad aliens.
Right.
And what I'm trying to say to this, David, is simply this, is that when you're dealing in the realm of the supernatural, you have to have a hallmark of truth by which to measure what is real, what is unreal, what is true, what is false.
The whole end time arena, based on the book of Revelation, based on 2 Thessalonians, and all of the passages, Jesus himself talking about the great end time deception.
So what is that end time deception?
What will the different aspects of the end times be?
We know there's going to be earthquakes, we know there's going to be famines, there's going to be pestilence, there's going to be signs in the heaven.
Why this is specifically important right now, is that if you've been reading and listening to the Millennium
Group and some of the other people out there, they're claiming that there is a new planet that has
entered into an orbit around the sun, a 32-day orbit, that's causing massive disturbances on the
surface of the sun.
Isn't that Comet Lee?
Yes, and Comet Lee is... No, excuse me.
Comet Lee is one aspect of it, but this is what some people are declaring is the ancient planet Nibiru,
or Marduk, okay?
And even the Sumerians detailed in their cuneiform, their clay tablets, that there was a planet that came into the solar system with a 3600 year periodicity.
In other words, that's how often it comes in to the place where we can see it.
Now, listen.
This is very important because we're coming into a period where people are quoting Nostradamus' quatrain on the King of Terror coming from the sky, the seventh month in 1999.
We're talking about everything from World War III to, you know, the appearance of the Antichrist.
So, in reversals, it's important to be able to see, is it real?
First of all, is it the human, is it God, or is it the evil spirit?
There can only be three voices, right?
I think the people are getting bent out of shape.
They should listen to what we're saying.
What we're saying, and what I'm specifically saying, is not in conflict with you.
I'm giving the spiritual reference point to how to determine where the reversal's coming from.
And is the reversal real?
In other words, is it truthful, or is it a deceptive?
And I'm not saying all reversals are deceptive.
I don't believe that.
You know, I am strongly a follower, when I say a follower, of exactly what reverse speech is.
And you've talked to me personally, you know that.
Absolutely.
I know where you're coming from.
Right.
So I think it's important that people understand that there is going to be a massive amount of input coming at every sense in their body.
It's going to even be coming to their intuition.
Their things are going to change.
You know, as you alter the electromagnetic realm of reality, you're going to begin to see things you've never seen before.
I'm talking visually, not, you know, intuitively, although that will happen too.
So what we're going to see is we're going to see, I would say this, a unique assortment of events and putting them into correct perspective so that one is not deceived will be of the utmost imperative.
I mean, it will be imperative and of the utmost importance.
And so let's talk about, for instance, what reversals have you been getting that deal specifically with the end time and with the coming one, the Antichrist, World War III?
I mean, aren't those common themes of reversal right now?
They are themes that have just started coming in in the last few months, yes.
I cannot deny that.
The word, the end times, I'd never heard before until the last few months.
I am getting more and more references to what is called a Third War.
In reverse, it's not called the Third World War, but the Third War.
Steve, just hold that line, that thought.
We have to go to a break.
We've got one last segment coming up.
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Once again, my guest is Steve Quayle.
We are talking about some of the spiritual aspects of reverse speech.
Steve, before I forget, let me give you an opportunity to get out your phone number and address where people can get a hold of your books and anything else you want to Well, first of all, we've got a new global preparedness alert on our website, which is www.safetrek.com.
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People can call us at 1-800-424-7870.
That's 1-800-424-7870.
And David, I just want to share that the Global Preparedness Alert is updated daily because I deal, with all due respect, probably for the last five and a half years I've had more calls that have been accurate than most of the people on talk radio as to world events.
I've been at this for 25 years, so I'm not a Johnny-come-lately.
And I think that people need to have, if you will, a synopsis on a daily basis of how the events that are transpiring in the world are going to shape their futures rather precariously, and in some cases very dangerously.
Right.
So they can go on our website and click on Global Preparedness Alert.
It's edited by Duncan Long, and it's absolutely keeping people up to date.
So getting back to what I asked you in lieu of our conversation tonight, the reversals that are showing up, end times, the third war, I mean, what do you make of that from your standpoint?
Oh, from my standpoint, I think we're heading to something.
I think that we're tapping into universal collective Messages, whether they're from the Collective Unconscious or the Spirit of God, I don't know where they're from.
But clearly, clearly something is up.
There is no doubt in my mind about that.
Something is definitely up.
And you can feel it in the atmosphere around in which we live.
You can feel it in the increased insanity and increased arguments and tempers that are around everywhere.
It's not just, it's not just an earthly material event that's happening.
There's something spiritual going on.
Well, Jesus said there's going to be signs in the heavens and on earth, seas and waves roaring, and men's hearts failing them for fear of looking after those things coming upon the earth.
You know, the way most people deal with new truth, David, I know you've found this, especially in reverse speech.
First of all, they get angry, okay?
And then they go into denial.
And then after that, they become fearful.
And after that, they become panicky.
And, you know, if people will only, how do I say, search these things out, Instead of reacting so emotionally, you know what's
interesting?
You've got to ask yourself a question.
What is it that causes people to become so defensive and so active when you even mention
the D word?
The D word meaning demon.
It's a very amazing thing.
For those of you who have never dealt with classic deliverance or actually seen someone
thrown across the room or seen some little girl who has the strength of ten men, you
can't even relate to it.
But I'm telling you, what's fascinating is as these events transpire and we get into what reversals are showing are the end times, People are going to lose, how do I say this, they're going to lose hold on what they once thought was, quote, so static and so state, and they're going to see that things are going to shake their very foundation of their understandings.
I cannot deny that at all.
I remember back in the days when I was the pastor of the church, I witnessed the very things that you were talking about.
And I tell you, Steve, since I've been involved in reverse speech, I've seen some fairly amazing things happen that I can't explain.
Unusual odors filling the room when I'm working with my clients.
That has happened on many occasions.
Odors ranging from perfume to To disgusting, vile, burning, rubber smells?
Um, I can explain a number of things.
Right.
You know, isn't it interesting that the Bible, the New Testament, calls the demons unclean spirits?
You know, David, in Greek that says foul-smelling spirits.
Interesting, huh?
Very interesting.
Extremely much so.
And so what you're seeing is something again.
What you're seeing is prima facie evidence that in reversals you are dealing with not only emotions, Not only with language, but you're dealing with very unusual physical happenings.
Is that a fair statement?
That is a very fair statement, and I cannot deny that.
I see it constantly.
There are aspects of reverse sneaks that scare the living daylights out of me, to be quite frank, and stuff that I hesitate talking about on the air because I don't understand what it is I'm dealing with.
It's really tough to deal with some of the stuff, especially on the air.
And by the way, this is not what I usually talk about.
I'm dealing with earthquakes and volcanoes and this stuff.
But what I'm saying is the book that I wrote, and before people, like I say, dismiss this whole thing as being just some crackpot, they better understand something.
That there are thousands and thousands of documents written by non-Christian, non-Western thinking individuals From 6,000 years ago to the hundreds of years ago of people that have detailed this whole event in great, great detail.
Even Josephus.
The Jewish historian that basically chronicled the antiquity of the Jews.
I mean, even in that document, this whole issue is dealt with.
So what I'm saying is this, is that most people simply assume the party line.
They settle for revisionist history.
They believe that Columbus found the United States.
Or, if at most, they go back into the whole realm of, let's say, Eric the Red.
Or some of the Norse adventures, but they don't understand that in the late 1900s complete Egyptian cities were found in the Grand Canyon.
If you want a good document for that, David Hatcher Childress has got some wonderful books on the lost cities with the actual news story from the Phoenix Gazette.
Right.
So you know, here's the thing.
Unfortunately, David, we're dealing with a very, how should I say, technologically supposed sophistication, but we're not dealing with people who can even relate to the things around them.
Like, let's say the poor guy in the Amazon jungle.
He's got a better understanding of his surroundings and can cope better than the people that live in New York, maybe.
You know?
So getting back to the whole issue of reversals, I think it's important that people understand that the reversals of... Listen, when Jesus was going to be born, okay?
The Magi knew it.
The Romans knew it.
The shepherds knew it.
The prophets foretold it.
So what you call universal consciousness or the collective consciousness, what I'm saying is this is exactly what's going on right now with the end times.
Isn't that the case?
That is exactly the case.
I cannot deny that.
And so as these events take place, and again, events that shouldn't be happening...
You know, we're seeing events now that absolutely, on the surface of the sun, if people want to go on the SOHO page, that's the Solar Observatory Helioscopic Observatory, it's a satellite 900,000 miles out in space that points always towards the sun, they're going to see solar flares, and they're going to see coronal mass ejections that are so powerful that if those things were directed towards the Earth, we would have a basic frying pan on the planet, as it is right now.
People better realize that the entire weather system of the planet is going to change dramatically.
As people respond to that, it will be interesting to see how the reversals take place to equate with that which is going on around them and around us.
Does that make sense?
That makes sense.
Yes, it does.
It does.
Something's going on.
Something's happening.
There really is.
I don't know.
I don't understand it.
I don't.
But it scares me.
Well, you see, the thing that's interesting is that, you know, fear is a very, very strong motivator, OK?
But the truth is even a greater, what would you say, a greater source of understanding, because fear usually is based on not having a complete understanding.
Truth will take away from the fear, and that's what we're trying to tell people.
Look, this and this is happening, so don't flip out, freak out, or snap when it begins to take place.
Understand that it's going to take place with all the different events that are coming down.
Understand that there are actions you can take to ameliorate and to somewhat maybe mediate those things.
But the bottom line is, most people, David, simply will say, I don't believe it's happening, I don't want to know it's happening, and they'll do absolutely nothing until the panic button is pressed.
I understand.
Steve, we've got about two minutes left.
What should people be doing?
Well, I think they'd better be preparing their arc, so to speak, and I know of no better way to do it than to consider this, that a prepared people will have a peace of mind that the unprepared will not have.
Listen, we know not only Y2K, but we know this, that just constant, constant barrage of all the negative stories.
Look, a person's got to take charge of their life, realizing that it isn't an instant breakfast
food world out there any longer, that things are changing, that very soon all the eating
habits of the world, the fresh water is running out.
The people better get a practical preparedness list if they'd like to call us, 1-800-424-7870.
I'd be glad to send them my free preparedness checklist.
Listen, David, I've been in the preparedness business longer than almost 99% of everyone
else out there, and I've learned some things, and I think I'd love to share them for free.
Yep, that's Steve's number is 800-424-7870.
800-424-7870.
I've been to Steve's offices and I can tell you he has some wonderful staff there.
He's very well stocked, very well organised, runs his business with precision.
I was very impressed by your office.
Well, thank you very much.
And David, thank you so much.
And again, I would just encourage those people that emailed you and everything, I would encourage them to listen to what I said, not what they think I said.
I understand.
And you are saying similar things to what I've said, too.
There is clearly a spiritual realm to reverse speech.
I cannot deny that.
In the 16 years that I've been doing it, Yeah, it's quite fascinating.
I went through a real metamorphosis.
When I started doing this, I started researching it from the perspective that reverse speech was a demonic phenomenon.
But, you know, I can't talk about this now because we're out of time.
This is David John Oates.
We are now at the end of the Reverse Speech Show.
Thank you for joining me, Steve.
Good night, America.
We'll see you all next week.
Sorry, but time just went.
I'm sorry.
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Good morning, Mrs. Blanchard.
How may I help you?
I'd like to cash this check.
Sure.
I'll just get my pen here.
Come on, lady!
Get a move on!
Where'd you learn to bank anyway?
Whoa!
Don't you give me that look!
It sure wouldn't be a very friendly place.
What kind of candy do you want, sweetie?
This!
No, no, no.
This!
Pick something already.
Come on, honey.
We're holding people up.
How about this kind?
No.
What is the matter with you people?
If you're not going to do something, I am!
Get out of my way!
Every day, drivers and their families all across the country are killed on the roadways because of road rage.
Boy, they did a beautiful wedding.
Oh, yes, and they made such a lovely couple.
Excuse me, is this the receiving line?
Yes, it is.
Hey!
He cut in line!
I'm a friend of the bride.
Do you know the drill?
Hey, mouth!
You cut in line!
Buzz off!
Oh, yeah?
He hit that nice man!
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Stop the senselessness of road rage.
It's time we all drive with the same courtesy we extend to people in the rest of our lives.
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