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Feb. 18, 1999 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - William Thomas - Chemtrails - Richard C. Hoagland - Miami Circle

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unidentified		To lie in the meadow and hear the grass sing.
unidentified		All these things in our memory song, and these are the colors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's check it, just call me And you can't keep it from I'm alive Take a few rocks Take my eyes I'm gonna see It's gonna bring me You're about to take a ride, all right.
		I want to warn you.
		What you're about to hear may scare you, and it may make you very angry.
		If you don't want to hear it, it involves the allegation that Americans are being sprayed from the air.
		I repeat, sprayed from the air.
		My guest is William Thomas.
		He's an author and an investigative journalist, and he's really on to a hot one.
		So I warn you again, this is going to be scary, and it's going to make you angry.
		And if you don't want to get scared, you don't want to get angry, and you have children in the room, get them out.
		And if that's you, turn the radio off now, because you're about to take a ride.
unidentified		From the Kingdom of Nile, this is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Now again, here's Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just in case you're joining right now, ladies and gentlemen, we won in Miami.
		I repeat, we won in Miami.
		Breaking news, the Miami-Dade County Commission has just voted 10 to 1 to file the eminent domain lawsuit to save the Miami Circle.
		County Mayor Alex Spinellis went to court and got a judge to issue a temporary restraining order preventing the developer, Michael Bauman, from any construction or excavation whatsoever on the site.
		The Miami Circle is saved.
		And you, all of you, helped, and you did that.
		And that is a non-trivial thing that you just did.
		You have a right to be proud of yourself.
		And for all of you who even gave it a positive thought, you all have a right to be proud of yourselves.
		It is truly a non-trivial event.
		And we can all say we have a little bit more spiritual nature to us tonight than we had.
		And to Michael Bauman, who's probably been through hell on a stick, I would say thank you, Michael.
		In a moment, we're going to be talking about contrails, and you're probably not going to like it.
		I'll tell you something.
		Tomorrow night, we're going to have Gary North here on Y2K.
		My suggestion is be here.
		Drop whatever you're doing and be here.
		Now, I've got a couple of announcements just before we get to William and we start to scare the hell out of you there.
		Y2K, there are several things going on with Y2K that I'm aware of, have been made aware of, very much on the inside, that I must tell you personally, personally, me, starting to scare me.
		I'll try to find a way to talk about them.
		You know, a lot of this is done in confidence between myself and others, and I really don't have a right to talk about it without their permission.
		And of course, these people don't really want to give it because they don't want that kind of limelight.
		And so I'm going to have to figure out how I can talk about what I know without exposing the people that have given me the information.
		It would be improper.
		But I'll tell you this, it's starting to scare the crap out of me.
		Having said that, that's tomorrow night, that's Gary North.
		Listen, The Source.
		Do you know about The Source?
		It's a book that was written by Brad Steiger and myself.
		It's just out, hardcover, 260 pages, and it is selling like hot cakes.
		You can see the reviews up at Amazon.com if you wish.
		You can buy it on Amazon.com or, now listen to me, listen to me very carefully for a very, very limited amount of time.
		And that's called Art Bell's signing limit.
		And I have a very low threshold of pain when it comes to signing books.
		Very low threshold of pain.
		For a very limited time, I'm going to give you a number here.
		You can call and you can get autographed copies of the source.
		And they're going to be rare because particularly the dual autographed copies.
		In other words, I will autograph it as will Brad Steiger.
		You'll have two signatures on there.
		And I can assure you, this is going to be a very, very limited time.
		So if you call the number I give you, it's now getting into bookstores nationwide.
		You can get it in a bookstore if you want.
		You can get a signed edition.
		If you want the special double signing edition, you can call 24 hours a day and order it until I say otherwise.
		1-800-864-7991.
		The source is an explanation, a journey through the unexplained, and then Tying it all together into what we call a source.
		To find out what that is, you've got to read the book.
		And if you want autographed copies of the book, there's only one place and one time you can get them, and that's now.
		And the number is 1-800-864-7991.
		And I've done that.
		Also, I really would like to also make note yet another affiliate tonight.
unidentified		Welcome, K-U-J, in Walla Walla, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great to have you on board.
		Now, the scary stuff.
		I don't know, was it a month ago?
		I began getting literally hundreds of emails and faxes.
		People were telling me about contrails.
		You know, the things left by jet planes, right?
		Well, to me, in the beginning, it sounded like a total crackpot thing.
		Contrails.
		Poisonous contrails.
		Right-wing wacko stuff all the way, I thought.
		Nevertheless, getting hundreds of faxes, I had to begin to consider what the hell's going on here.
		And I got one from William Thomas, author, investigative journalist, who said he knew about the contrails.
		And so we had William Thomas on the air, and we did a program on contrails.
		Well, believe me, there's a lot of contrails under the bridge since then, including, I'm sorry to say, in a way, one of my own, actually more than one.
		But I have the presence of mind.
		Let me tell you what happened.
		Normally, and I'm going to say that I really should tell this to William.
		William Thomas, welcome to the program.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Art.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Pleasure to be with you tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great, yes, great to have you.
		And I know we're going into some pretty scary places here.
		Look, after we did the last program, I had occasion to, as I do every day, observe outside.
		And here we have pretty consistent traffic over the Prump Valley at altitude at about 33,000 feet or better, that is either coming or going generally in an east-west direction.
		A lot of traffic to San Francisco from Las Vegas traverses our valley.
		We also have military aircraft that traverse the valley.
		Most frequently, jet fighters at low altitude go screaming across here.
		It's kind of fun, actually.
		But after we did the show on Contrails, William, three times in one day, I saw something I have never in my life seen before in all the years that I've lived here.
		And that is, we are just sort of a, we're a waypoint.
		Jets don't circle at altitude the Brump Valley.
		They just go on their merry way, either moving west-northwest toward San Francisco or generally from the northwest toward Las Vegas.
		And they just cut across the valley.
		Well, there were several people with me, William, and each one of them said, what in the hell's going on up there?
		And what was going on was that a jet, it had to be a big one, you know, a 737 at minimum size, I wouldn't know a civilian or a military, would come into the valley, about center over the valley, cut a 360-degree circle, something they never do here, and then keep right on trucking.
		And they were leaving these very, very strange contrails.
		It was kind of like O-rings, you know, smoke rings, I would describe it.
		And so I ran in the house, and I got a camera.
		I've got a 35-millimeter camera.
		And I ran into the house and got it and took a photograph of one of them.
		Now, that's on my website right now.
		And if you go to my website, www.artbell.com, and you scroll down to newest site editions, you will see something, number two item.
		It says, photo of Condrail over Art's Home.
		By the way, you can see my new radio tower right below that.
		But click on it and make it big and take a look at this Condrail.
		It looks like it was made by some kind of ramjet technology or something.
		But it's a complete circle over the Prompt Valley.
		Now, there were a number of these, William, that day.
		The ones, just like in the photo that I put up, taken by my very own hand, scanned by my hand.
		And listen to me, pixel people, this is a real photograph, damn it.
		I took it, I scanned it, and William, these contrails combined, and they became a cloud bank that you can already see forming from previous contrails that had gone by in the lower portion of the picture.
		The nice new fresh one is centered in the picture.
		What the hell is going on?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I saw the photograph art, a most remarkable picture.
		I haven't seen anything like that in the dozens of chemtrail photographs that I have seen.
		Question for you.
		Did any of the observers get sick?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I would have to ask them.
		There were about six guys here.
		About six guys.
		And every one of them who looked up and saw what was going on over the valley said, I have never seen anything like that in my life.
		Now, I am not subject to respiratory problems.
		But you can ask my wife, she'll verify this.
		I have been waking up almost every day in a sneezing fit.
		Immediately after this, my wife had an asthma attack.
		She's like a canary.
		You know, if there's something wrong in the air, she gets an asthma attack right away because she has asthma.
		As for me, I'm not really subject to respiratory trouble, but I will wake up sneezing uncontrollably.
		And that's what I can tell you happened.
		I sneezed a lot.
		My wife had an asthma attack.
		As for the others who were here, I don't know.
unidentified		I would have to ask.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, the observation of you and Your men, friends, of these unusual signs in the sky are echoed, I can tell you, from coast to coast, as you well know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And since our conversation a couple of weeks ago, I have interviewed more than 250 people and have detailed sighting reports, again, from coast to coast.
		And the asthma attack your wife suffered, again, unfortunately, matches symptoms from people reporting throughout the United States.
		And just a couple of days ago, Art, I put together those 250-some reports of sightings and illnesses with every bit of documented evidence I have on extraordinary hospital admissions of people, many for the first time in their lives, being brought into emergency with acute respiratory problems such as bronchitis and pneumonia.
		I know these, by the way, in very dry areas of the United States.
		I know.
		When I put those media reports and reports from nurses and medical personnel and patients together with the sighting reports, they matched.
		They matched in location.
		They matched in time and date.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have this documented on a website?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's now on my website.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		The third article I have written on this subject with those hospital admissions is now up on my site.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we have a web to your web.
		We have a link to your site on the web, on my website.
		So, folks, if you would like to, if you'd like to see more about it, just go to the name William Thomas on my website and click on www.islandnet.com and some more there.
		Just click on that website and go take a look and you will see the documentation supporting what William is saying tonight.
		William, do you know that what you're saying sounds when you first hear it?
		I mean, you are saying the American people are being intentionally sprayed with something that's making them sick.
		Now, William, that sounds like a pretty crackpot thing to be saying, frankly, to a lot of people, including me when I first heard about it.
		And then, you know what, William?
		Everybody I know, just about, and I'm going to repeat this, just about everybody I know is sick.
		Flu-like symptoms, sick.
		Hospitals are overflowing.
		It's just, you know, maybe it's just, you know, like they say on TV when they sell the cold remedies.
		It's a flu and cold season.
		But this, we're having a hell of a flu and cold season this year.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		You're having an epidemic, and those are not my, that's not my word.
		That's a word from doctors from New York City hospitals out to California.
		Many of those doctors, you'll find on my website, are saying this is not, repeat, not the flu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got doctors saying that.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I have doctors saying that to the New York Times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Watch this.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		This is an upper respiratory illness that has come on very suddenly, extremely violently.
		We have never seen anything like this.
		We do not know what this is.
		We are seeing record numbers, in many cases, double the usual admissions of bronchitis and pneumonia in an admittedly high admission season for asthma sufferers and respiratory illness folks.
		The hospitals are, in many cases, doubling their admissions.
		I can tell you tonight that hospitals in Phoenix and places in Oklahoma and other cities have literally been closed.
		They are not taking new admissions.
		Schools have been shut down.
		And isn't it interesting that the Center for Disease Control has yet to issue a nationwide alert to a flu or a specific flu?
		I mean, we are used every year to hearing about some exotic, usually Asian flu that's striking cities across America, get your flu vaccinations, silence from the CDC, and yet individual media reports that never seem to be correlated and put together indicate, again, an epidemic in the doctor's words of flu-alike.
		Now notice they're saying in almost every case flu-like symptoms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
		That's what I'm hearing, too.
		Flu-like symptoms.
		All right, I'll tell you what, we are at the bottom of the hour, and that should give you folks a taste of what we're saying.
		I don't like saying this.
		I don't even like thinking this, because this is my country.
		This is your country.
		And I don't even like imagining that they would be spraying us with anything without our permission.
		I don't like to imagine that about America.
unidentified		Do you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you doubt all this?
		Well, stay where you are.
		Keep listening.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast AM from the Kingdom of My with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be me, and there's just one more thing I want to tell you about the Contrails.
		And maybe it's about the Contrails, I don't know.
		But as you know, I've lived in this valley now for a long, long time, and there's one more thing that I need to bring to your attention.
		Over the past, I don't know, I'm going to guess a couple of weeks now.
		There has been an odd smell in the air.
		I was not the first to notice this.
		My wife was.
		And defining the smell is rather difficult.
		It vaguely smells like something's on fire.
		And I can't really tell you what that something would be.
		It vaguely smells like there's a fire.
		Now, there are no fires.
		I'm out here in the middle of the desert, and there are no major fires going on in California or Arizona that I'm aware of that would create this smell in the air.
		It's very hard to discern, and she doesn't want to come in here, I know it, but if Ramona would please step in here for just one second and confirm what I'm saying right now before I go to break.
		Like right now, before I go to break.
		Come on in.
		I know you're listening.
		Come in.
		Here she comes.
		Just lean down here and tell them.
		Tell them the truth.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, what I saw.
		Well, actually, I pointed out to you that it was kind of weird seeing those contrails because I've never seen planes do a 180 before.
		And I also told you that there was, you know, the air smelled real funny.
		And, you know, I was having headaches.
		And we were both having sinus problems.
		Yeah.
		You know, four or five days ago.
		Is that enough?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you.
		Thank you.
		She doesn't like doing that.
		Unless I force her into doing that, she won't do that.
		We both had sinus trouble.
		We both had this odd sensation of a weird smell in the air.
		And the contrails are without question.
		Now, I say this again.
		I don't like thinking that this may be true.
		I don't like it at all because the implications of it are sad.
		That's the best word I can think of, sad.
		Disturbing, shocking, will make you angry, a lot of things.
		But most of all, sad if I really thought it was true.
		I'm just telling you what I have observed.
		William Thomas will tell you what he has investigated.
		He will tell you the facts and will be right.
		The things that William Thomas told me in a fact that he sent me prior to this show that we're doing now.
		He said, since we last spoke on the air, I've interviewed 198 eyewitnesses by phone and email.
		Detailed accounts have come from police officers, pilots, military, and health personnel.
		All report similar aerial spraying grid patterns, occluded skies, severe illness in the regions being sprayed.
		He goes on, I have one lab analysis of the spray, and a second lab test is being tracked down by a half dozen investigators actively researching this story for me.
		William, let's dive in there.
		You have one lab analysis already of spray?
		I do.
		Where did you get it?
		How did you get it?
		And what did the analysis say?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		The analysis was passed to me by one of five investigators that have been working on this story for more than a year.
		And this particular lab test comes from a company called Aqua Tech Environmental.
		They are in several cities across the nation.
		This one was from Marion, Ohio.
		This was done on September 18, 1997 on samples taken from contaminated fields in Maryland and Pennsylvania.
		AquaTech found something called ethylene dibromide.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What the hell is that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's a component of a jet fuel called JP-8.
		It is also one of the most tightly controlled substances under the Environmental Protection Act of your country.
		It was banned in 1983 because of its acute toxicity and its known carcinogeneity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, JP-8, I don't know about 8, but that's jet fuel, right?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Now, in 1991, military and commercial aircraft changed over from JT-4, which is essentially a kerosene, to JT-8, which is somewhat less flammable.
		I got in touch with a source inside Department of Defense, and he said that changeover has saved some lives in air crashes.
		And I asked him, what is life-saving about going to a fuel that is a banned pesticide, a known carcinogen, and get this, according to the EPA, must be handled with extreme caution because it may damage developing fetus, reproductive systems in male and females.
		And the EPA, in their hazardous material list, devotes seven pages to ethylene dibromide.
		And it goes on to say, exposure to these vapors in very small quantities, tests show, may cause coughing and shortness of breath.
		It can build up a fluid in the lungs.
		Repeated exposure may cause bronchitis, development of cough and shortness of breath.
		All of these are symptoms being reported across the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		William, I also am aware of a lot of people ill now with, as you put it, flu-like symptoms that has turned into pneumonia.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Walking pneumonia or worse, I know of one particular person who just died of it.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, are those, is that anything like the reports you're getting?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		From 41 states now that I have tracked, the spraying and the illness, unusually high numbers of pneumonia and bronchitis are being reported.
		It seems to be a signature of this spray.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, instead of calling them contrails, you call them chemtrails.
		Now, when you say, I have learned that the spraying of America has been underway since 1992, frequency and intensity of spraying rose sharply in November of 98, continues to intensify as I write with fresh spraying.
		Now, you make reference to recent areas sprayed, Knoxville, Tennessee, Asheville, North Carolina, Dallas, Texas.
		When you say spray, William, are you referring now to the component in jet fuel that you just talked about, or are you referring to something even beyond that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid I'm speaking of something even beyond ethylene dibromide and the JP8 that was found in this particular test.
		All right, you're talking to the author of a book, Bringing the War Home on Biological Warfare in the Gulf.
		And when that book was published by my friend Nick Bagich of Earth Pulse Press a year ago, I got on shows like yours and warned Americans to pay attention and to get the lessons of the Gulf War of lest this war come home to us.
		And I have to tell you tonight that the deeper I get into my investigation into the spraying of North America, because it's happening in Canada as well, the more I feel a very spooky sense of deja vu.
		I am running into symptoms that match Gulf War illness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, William, for the sake of this conversation, I'm going to ask you, why, why, William, would the American government, military, or whoever in the hell would do this, why would they spray the American people?
unidentified		Why?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's an easy one, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would have rather thought that would have been the hardest one.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid not.
		I've written another book called Scorched Earth.
		I have to laugh, please pardon me, at the absurdity and the insanity of this, but this goes back to the 1950s.
		The Pentagon has been testing germ warfare on the American people since the 1950s.
		We have, and now I'm referring you to government information, United States Senate testimony before the Committee on Veterans Affairs, May 6, 1994.
		Title of the investigation, Open Air Testing with Simulated Biological and Chemical Warfare Agents.
		They had expert testimony and they learned that the Army has released simulant agents, quoting from the report here, over hundreds, hundreds of populated areas around the United States.
		Up in Alaska, one experiment released 264 liters of a bacterial agent.
		In all, this Senate investigation found since the 1950s, some 239 American cities and communities were sprayed with a zinc cadmium sulfide to simulate biological warfare.
		This is a car synogen.
		Targets included Hawaii, Alaska, San Francisco, St. Louis, Detroit, Minneapolis, New York City, the subway system there, by the way, Washington, D.C., Key West, Florida, Toledo, St. Louis, and Springfield, Illinois, among some 239 locations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you back this up, William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm backing it up because I'm reading from this document released by the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs, May 6, 1994, open-air testing.
		This is from your government, your Senate, their investigation, which went on to say that in one test conducted in 1953, zinc cadmium sulfide was sprayed over a Minneapolis elementary school with 600 children inside.
		The city of Minneapolis was sprayed in 1997 on 61 separate occasions.
		And there followed an increase in the rates of respiratory illness in the sprayed areas.
		We're talking a fungus, Aspergillus, humongatus, zinc, cadmium sulfide, a bacterium, serratea, marsensis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what all that is.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		All kinds of things I can't even pronounce.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know what that stuff is that you did.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's nasty stuff.
		And it's been going on since the 1950s, Art.
		And yesterday in England, the Ministry of Defense had to come clean and admit in the 60s and 70s and since the 80s, that government has been spraying germs which mimic biowar agents such as anthrax over heavily populated parts of the country, resulting in pneumonia and lung infections.
		Sound familiar?
		That has particularly affected the elderly and the children.
		This is on British news.
		This is on the BBC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the BBC.
		Look, if half of what you're saying is true, William, where's NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN on this story?
		Where are they?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		There's a good question.
		Art, in Bringing the War Home, I referenced six congressional investigations into Gulf War illness that laid bare the truth behind this disease and what happened in the Gulf.
		Where was NBC, CNN, and the vaunted news organizations of the United States when those reports came out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what they were doing pretty much was repeating what the Pentagon was telling them when they said anything at all.
		Frankly, that I know for sure.
		Now, help me out here a little bit.
		How is a person to discern if they look into the sky and they see a contrail being laid down, how do they know whether it's just a normal...
		A normal contrail?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		A normal contrail is formed off the wingtips of a fast-moving aircraft, a jet at high altitude, or from the actual turbine, the jet engine, sucking in ice crystals and forming these, turning it into steam.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's actually a vapor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It streams behind the engines and the vortices swirling off the wingtips.
		According to the experts I consulted and my own eyeballs, these contrails normally dissipate within about 45 seconds.
		They break up like the wake behind a boat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the contrails that came Over my house, like the picture I've got on my website right now that people damn well ought to go to take a look at, they didn't dissipate, William.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They changed, they spread, and they became a kind of an odd-looking cloud bank, is what they did.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And it's what they are doing again over 41 states at enormous expense and effort.
		Nevertheless, you have photographs.
		I have dozens of excellent photographs, videotapes.
		These are not contrails.
		They do not, as you say, dissipate.
		They linger for hours.
		They spread slowly and coalesce into an overcast.
		In almost every case I've investigated, and again, this is some 260 cases, these contrails were formed in almost every instance in clear blue skies, resulting over a short period of time in a complete overcast or more accurately, a kind of mist or fog bank that precipitated out of the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Damwell what I saw.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		These are not normal contrails.
		These are chemtrails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, what I'm trying to do now is you ran through a lot of exotic names that most people won't understand regarding chemicals, but the average guy or gal looking into the sky and seeing these chemtrails, how do they discern between chemtrails and chondrails?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Do they linger?
		Do they spread out and thicken rather than dissipate?
		It's very striking to me that almost everyone, every one of our listeners tonight has seen contrails throughout her or his life.
		We're all familiar with that.
		And yet, people in the last two years have been looking up in the sky, grabbing their neighbors, pointing cameras and video cameras at something that they know are not contrails.
		And I guess the short answer is you'll know instinctively or in your gut that these are strange.
		These do not act like contrails.
		If they linger, if they spread out, if there are aircraft that you're observing lay down grid patterns over hours and X is in the sky, you know something extraordinary is taking place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Could a person run inside and escape the effects?
		Or is this one of those things where it falls on farmers' fields, it falls on the food that cows sit out there and munch on and gets into the food chain, etc., and so forth and so on.
		In other words, are you saving yourself from whatever might be in this horrid little witch's brew by going inside, or are you going to partake of it no matter what you do?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Both.
		You will protect yourself and your family from acute respiratory ailments and a severe illness, people are unanimously reporting that lasts for weeks, three to five weeks, and then often comes back.
		So by all means, take cover.
		And I do not wish to spread fear and have people running inside every time a jet goes over.
		But if you see something that looks like an abnormal contrail that's spreading into a fog bank, yes, I would recommend that people take cover, especially with elderly and children involved.
		And you will protect yourself.
		But in just a bit here, we're going to go the final step here tonight, Art, and talk about a possible, underlined possible pathogen involved with this sprain.
		And that is pathogenetic to plants as well as animals and people.
		And what I will attempt to do in the next hour or so, as we continue, is to lay out a pattern, several patterns, in fact, and let the listeners decide for themselves what is going on.
		I'm not going to be offering proof tonight, but I will be offering patterns that I think are irrefutable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I like doing that.
		And that's what I do.
		I let people decide for themselves.
		William, hold on, stay right where you are.
		will be right back.
unidentified		A note.
unidentified		A note.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The note, once again, back to William Thomas.
		William, just before we proceed into the pathogen world, let me ask you this.
		Contrails, I've seen a lot of study about contrails, or at least a little bit, and so I want to challenge you on a couple of points.
		One, you say that generally a contrail will persist for about 40 seconds or so.
		Is that not dependent upon weather conditions at altitude, humidity levels, and so forth and so on?
		In other words, is it not possible that some contrails would in fact persist for long periods of time given certain weather conditions, temperature conditions, whatever?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I wrote an article a few years ago on irregular contrails and how they might affect, in fact are affecting the atmosphere and global warming.
		That article is also on my website.
		It's published in EcoDecision Magazine.
		And I pointed out that the large numbers of commercial jet airliners flying back and forth across the Atlantic Ocean in particular actually form what pilots refer to as cloud streets of lingering contrail masses of aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Now, going a little further with what I think I know, there is mainstream research going on now that would seem to indicate that it is even possible that contrails under certain conditions begin to form into cloud banks that eventually Turn into precipitation.
		In other words, if weather conditions are on the edge of producing something like that but have not yet done so, it is possible that a series of jets at altitude could produce what eventually becomes a weather system.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		MSNBC has just run a story talking about an 800-mile cloud bank forming from contrails, and the people researching this were quite excited.
		Of course, that was an anomaly, but there's no question that it happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the other hand, if you wanted to spray the American people or the British people or any other people, what better way, I think a logical person would agree, to do it than to simply dispense it in what otherwise would be seen and accepted as normal everyday occurrence, a contrail across the sky, big deal.
		We see them all the time.
		Now, if there was obvious spraying, you know, a lot of people would get upset, but well, what the hell?
		Contrails, you know, they're just contrails, jets, yeah, right, jets.
		So you said something before the top of the hour about pathogens.
		Unload that one on me, please.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I will.
		Let's just, if we can stay with this contrail for just a second, some of the critics, I do appreciate hard questions in particular.
		Again, I must remind your listeners that the chemtrails we're referring to, or the odd contrails, are formed in X patterns, which are quite unusual.
		Commercial aircraft do not cross each other's flight paths.
		It is illegal and very dangerous.
		They are formed in grid patterns over hours.
		Commercial aircraft do not do this.
		Military refueling aircraft do not refuel fighters in this manner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we're seeing you talk about the X patterns created, correct?
		Chondrill X patterns.
		From the ground, how do we discern a difference in altitude between a jet at, let's say, 36,000 feet and a jet at 32,000 feet that have crossed each other's path?
		To the eye from the ground, it looks like it acts in like they just crossed each other's path.
		But couldn't that be an optical conclusion?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
		I would say that under many conditions, as you've just remarked, the winds aloft and temperature gradients that falls every thousand feet in altitude would disperse the contrails in a different way.
		At least in the photographs and videos I've seen, the contrails absolutely match in thickness and dispersion rates, so they cannot be too far apart in altitude.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you, it's cold up there, baby.
		You get up toward 40,000 feet in transatlantic flights that I've been on, and they, just for entertainment, because you're sitting there, I went to South Africa, for example, you're sitting there for 24 hours in an airplane.
		They put up the outside conditions, and frequently you'll look up, it'll be like 87 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
		That's pretty typical.
		That's really cool.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's bring this down to Earth for just a second.
		In dozens of interviews I've done, people talk about helicopters flying, particularly at night, and spraying at very low level over population centers.
		They talk about twin-turboprop aircraft.
		We have a case here on Vancouver Island coming over at night.
		Very rooftop level, in fact, spraying communities.
		Salasa, Oklahoma comes to mind.
		Many people sick there.
		So some of this spraying is, in fact, being done at very low level with different types of aircraft.
		And that, I assure you, cannot be discounted as contrails or normal flight operations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pathogens.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Pathogens.
		By the way, it's quite legal to spray pathogens over the American populace before we start on particular ones.
		There's been some confusion over this art that we can clear up in about 30 seconds.
		The U.S. Code, Title 50, Section 1520, has allowed the spraying of biological simulants over the American populace for decades.
		It was repealed.
		That law stated you had to give 30, the Pentagon had to give 30 days notice to a public official, though not to the public, before conducting this experiment.
		It was repealed in November 18, 1997.
		The law that replaced it says the Secretary of Defense may not conduct any test or experiment involving the use of a chemical agent or biological agent on a civilian population, wait for it, unless the experiment is related to research activity.
		And then go right ahead.
		So it's quite legal to go ahead with these tests.
		And I wrote an email to the head of this kind of testing at the Dugway Durham Warfare Center.
		And I asked him if this, in fact, was going on, because I quoted their own information saying that atmospheric dispersion models are often used to simulate open-air dispersion of these weapons.
		And sealed test chambers are expensive and inadequate.
		And Dugway says that, and this is a very interesting term, NIST, considering what we're dealing with, man-in-simulant test is essential to simulate an actual chemical threat environment, their term.
		It's far more realistic and believable simulation, they say, to spray this in the open air.
		But of course, we only do that over people wearing full chemical biological suits.
		So there we go.
		Now we can get into the pathogens.
		We've laid some groundwork here.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pathogens.
unidentified		Pathogens.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Two of them are front and center in my Investigation.
		These are not proven.
		I am suggesting tonight that anyone who is extremely ill with something they recognize is not the flu and they would like to know what's going on be tested for something called pseudomonas aerogonosa.
		I could hear that pronunciation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It is an extremely common bacterial pathogen that accounts for 10% of infections in hospitals.
		It's a little critter art that is extremely underlying, extremely resistant to antibiotics.
		Everyone I have interviewed says that antibiotics are of no use on their illness.
		I've got this lead from an unsolved mysteries program done a few years ago when they took some of this cobwebby goop.
		I believe it was Everett, Washington, and I've been in touch with some of the police officers involved in this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, everybody, we should back up just a little bit.
		From these contrails, particularly the worrisome ones, we noted frequently on the last program and not yet on this one, that a spider-webby-type material seems to fall from the sky and then quickly dissipate.
		Is that correct?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That is correct.
unidentified		Okay.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		We'll have a few more words to say about that very shortly.
		This particular cobwebby material, which has draped itself over power lines, porches, over the Denver International Airport, to one police officer's amazement, was sampled.
		And now we have a publication called LOOP L-O-O-P, published by the American Society of Microbiologists.
		I have to confess, I'm still trying to get the date of this article, but it says that a sample of these cobwebs turned up a strain of bacteria known as a pseudomonad.
		Pseudomonas aerogonosa is one of these pseudomads.
unidentified		All right.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		This stuff has been, in the past, genetically engineered.
		It is very hardy.
		It is very common in people, animals.
		Usually it doesn't hurt us unless we are vulnerable.
		That is, unless our immune systems are weakened by perhaps, oh, I don't know, our exposure to ethylene dibromide comes to mind or other problems that would affect our immune system.
		It's manufactured by a couple of companies in the United States, including, I just learned today, for medical research purposes, the American Type Tissue Culture Corporation.
		And my antenna went up at this because I'm very familiar with the ATTCC folks.
		They're the people in Maryland who shipped 72 shipments of germ warfare cultures to someone named Saddam Hussein between October 84 and October 93.
		And I have the shipping dates and invoice numbers in my book, Bringing the War Home, if anyone would like to look that up.
		Okay, so these things are being made for research purposes.
		Again, a rod-shaped germ, very common in hospitals, particularly affects children, and it makes the lung mucus much thicker and compounds breathing problems.
		Again, something very familiar to people suffering this mysterious ailment across the United States tonight.
		As I said, very resistant to antibiotics, often used as a stimulant with another bacteria, one acting as a sensitizing agent and the other causing illness.
		Now I find, I'm scrolling rapidly through about eight very detailed medical studies that I've found on the web and I've had forwarded to me.
		This thing can produce gelatinase.
		I suppose that means a gelatin-like substance because it accretes.
		These bacteria accrete into a slime.
		That's why they're so resistant to antibiotics and detergents.
		The primary focus of PA is infection of the lungs, again producing a thick mucus.
		It is, researchers say, associated with pneumonia, staph, and bronchitis.
		It has been used in agricultural applications.
		It kills plants.
		might even kill marijuana plants.
		This particular study, I'm reading.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those plans are well underway now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well this is a fungus and Bodie, Rosenstein, and Hall in research studies in 83 and 80 have told us that releasing this in an agricultural application in deliberate environmental releases means that actual numbers of these microbes may be considerably higher than those that occur naturally and don't hurt us.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		In fact, pseudomonas arigenosa, having trouble with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me hear you say that again.
unidentified		Yeah.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Pseudomonas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Erugynosa.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		All right, now it's an opportunistic pathogen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now say it three times fast.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		P-H, P-H.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to say, this whole topic is so damn serious.
		Oh, like, if you don't laugh, you're going to cry.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		It's been a too long time with no peace of mind.
unidentified		And I'm ready for the times to get better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, me too.
		As it doesn't seem sometimes like they could get worse.
		This is Coast to Coast AF.
		These computers, I don't know what I'm going to do.
		William, welcome back.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		William, we've got to briefly touch on something, and then I really want to get to the phones because I want to let people ask you hard questions.
		Good.
		And if not, then corroborate what you're saying.
		But, you know, whatever lies out there, you write to me.
		I have also uncovered U.S. patent number 4253190 for a polyester resin mirror, mirror, to be held aloft by electromagnetic radiation when sprayed from high-flying jets.
		These polymers can apparently be heated by HAARP.
		That's a transmitter in Alaska.
		To change the weather.
		Dr. Bernard Eastland, in veteran original patent holder of HAARP, concurs with this analysis, as does HAARP expert Dr. Nick Begich.
unidentified		Now, what do we know about that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		We know that in many cases of sightings of sprain, extreme weather anomalies, weather events have taken place within a few days, drastic temperature drops, drastic storms.
		I do not know if there's a direct tie-in.
		Dr. Begich tells me, by the way, that this month, February, HARP has been turned off.
		It will be reactivated in March.
		So if HAARP is involved, it's not happening this month when, in fact, the weather continues to go crazy.
		And I suspect that is more from our doing and global warming.
		However, having said that, I did go further since I wrote you, Art, and checked in with a PhD researcher who wishes to remain anonymous.
		I don't blame him.
		He's very well versed with polymers, and he says basically that it is possible to put a mirror, a polyester mirror in place and have that interact with the radio frequency, very high energy, released by HARP to heat the atmosphere.
		HARP was designed to heat the ionosphere above the atmosphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		But weather is formed at lower altitudes, and this could be done.
		However, this PhD told me that he was having trouble accepting this because the altitudes we're talking about, say 30,000 feet or so, he said he's not sure if HAARP could be beamed that low over a great distance to heat the atmosphere.
		He said that his own patent searches have turned up a patent 4175469, which mentions reasons for dispersing these electrolytes or polymers into the atmosphere for reflecting radio waves for over-the-horizon communications or for radar jamming sprays.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know our military has intense interest in over-the-horizon radar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They have tried everything, so have the Russians, to achieve that.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, he goes on to say these uses could clearly be related to the contrails.
		I could see that for over-the-horizon communications, one might make a reflector out of a grid pattern or parallel lines.
		Why they would form cobwebs, I don't know, he writes, but it doesn't seem impossible to me that they could condense into loosely bound aggregates that would quickly evaporate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I do know that, as you point out, something in the atmosphere would act as a reflector.
		Hem radio operators know about that.
		Even meteors re-entering the atmosphere can be used as reflectors for radio signals.
		So that's absolutely correct.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And this is interesting.
		Bernard Eastland writes that heat generation occurs by adding magnetic iron oxide to the polymer.
		He talks about two Ohio companies that produce polymers with microwave-absorbing additives.
		He's mentioned specific products by name.
		And he says that this can be done and it's being studied.
		A person I mentioned last week, a former Rayzion missile engineer, Tommy Farmer, comments that in the sample that he had analyzed, a chemist found during a microscopic examination a yellow-orange orbs or spores impregnated into the filaments of the material.
		He did not believe they were biological spores, and Farmer wonders if those orange, yellow orbs might be oxidizing a ferrous alloy.
		If so, of course, it would match Bernard Eastland's comments that this could be used to generate heat in the atmosphere in HAARP.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when you generate heat, you control the weather.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		Weather is all about heat exchange.
		And the idea here is to remove or add heat to storm systems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, since the original broadcast that you did, I mean, when you first came on my program, you shocked so many people and illuminated this subject so brightly that the fax traffic and email traffic to me has been unrelenting.
		And what I would like to do is go to the phones and let you answer questions from the audience randomly.
		You willing?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'll just do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, on this program, we don't screen, so you don't know what's coming up.
		And I can't guarantee what's coming.
		We're just going to go to the phone and see what happens, all right?
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		First time caller line.
		You are on the air with William Thomas.
		Hi.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Art.
unidentified		This is Dave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dave.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Are you in Terre Haude, Indiana?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		What I was calling about is like with Contrails is Terre Haude, Indiana, we're known as the crossroads of the United States with the railroads and the highways.
		And we have an international airport.
		We have a 101st fighter group here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And 40 miles north here, we have Newport Munitions Dump.
unidentified		That's where they keep all the VX gas at.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Okay, well, here lately, they've been saying my mom just recently has gotten cancer, but the doctors have told her this is a high cancer area.
		And with all the railroad yards going through here during World War II, it's amazing because with all the highways and everything, it's not the highways, but the fighter group here, the airport, the munitions dump, and during World War II, all the munitions went through here because of the railways.
		And this could almost be considered a spot because, you know, we're centered in between St. Louis, Indianapolis, Chicago, and Louisville.
		And it's, what's your opinion on that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I've had quite a few people write in and contact me, Dave, saying they live near air bases and they have quite a high rate of illness in the family, a lot of cancer in the communities.
		I refer yourself and those people to my first book, Scorched Earth, in which I document, thoroughly document, the incidence of cancers and other serious ailments among communities and cities around air bases,
		and that has been absolutely traced and documented to the leakage of jet fuel and a degreaser, a very toxic degreasing agent used on Air Force air bases into the water supply of the surrounding communities.
		And I would say don't look up to the sky in this instance, but look beneath your feet into the groundwater supply.
		Contact your local environmental groups and or the EPA, and I think you'll be quite surprised to find that this has, in fact, been documented in many communities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Here's somebody who says, this is ludicrous.
		Ask your guest why airport personnel aren't dropping over like flies.
		Contrails have always had properties of staying in the atmosphere for minutes to even hours.
		They can and at times do form serous clouds.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Pilots are not dropping over like flies, but they have been getting sick since JP-8 was introduced, and they have made representations to airlines and government saying, we want this looked at.
		We know that this is very toxic indeed.
		Again, they are not dropping like flies, but in fact, airline personnel are getting sick.
		Fuel handlers know very well the risk from handling this fuel.
		And again, I will emphasize that while some contrails can linger, especially in high traffic areas, the flight patterns that we're seeing, the repeated spraying, the low-level spraying that people are reporting, are well outside the normal parameters of aircraft movements and contrail formation, without a doubt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Here's somebody writing from Everett, Washington in email saying, Art, I live in Everett, Washington.
		I heard your guest begin to say something about it.
		I've had an increase in the number of cases of cough, nausea, and vomiting.
		A year ago, I began to get headaches.
		My blood pressure has gone sky high.
		I'm on high blood pressure medication now.
		I also have seen an increase in the number of jets flying around at times, and there's been a helicopter that seems to follow the same flight plan for a few nights, then miss a few nights, then show up again.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I just had a quick check here in.
		Everett was the town that the Unexplained Mystery Show talked about and claimed that a lab test, which by the way, I'm still trying to get my hands on, mentioned human DNA or human white blood cells found in the cobweb samples there.
		So that correspondent is at ground zero for this anomaly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you are on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right.
		You're going to have to yell at us.
		You're not very loud.
		Where are you, please?
unidentified		In Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alaska?
unidentified		What part?
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, sir.
unidentified		Okay, hold on.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a very important thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn that radio off right away, folks, or you will sound confused on the air.
unidentified		It will be.
unidentified		It's kind of North Pole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		North Pole, Alaska, okay.
unidentified		Yeah, I've noticed those commcrafts that Art was talking about, and I looked on the website.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You saw the photograph I took?
unidentified		Yeah, of Arts, but I've also seen them here with we live between two military bases.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've seen them like that?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		And I've seen them where they'll go over and kind of turns into like clouds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And they hang there for a long time.
unidentified		And also, we had a real bad epidemic ourselves here in our town back in December before Christmas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of what?
unidentified		Well, they didn't know what it was.
		Everybody was going to the hospital.
		And my girlfriend, her eyeballs swelled shut.
		They didn't know what it was.
		She had respiratory problems.
		And they never did know what it was.
		The antibiotics didn't work.
		And I don't know.
		I believe the government's been doing a lot of testing for years because my grandmother used to work for the federal government in Utah.
		And she wound up dying.
		Her lungs just fell out.
		And that was about seven years ago.
		They never did know what it was.
		And then my dad, he was in World War II.
		And back then, they went Through a lot of the jungles eating monkey meat to survive, and he said he's seen a lot of people die from like symptoms of AIDS.
		So, I really believe that we've had it since then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's entirely possible.
		Jay, I got some just really sterling news earlier today.
		I was one of the original polio volunteer kids.
		I got one of the very first polio vaccines in America.
		And because I'm a Bell, a B, we lined up alphabetically.
		And I was the first in my school to get the polio vaccine.
		And they just gave us some really interesting news about the polio vaccine earlier today.
		And of course, that is that some of the early testing, like was done on myself, is producing cancers and other terrible things.
		And so I've been considering that one all day.
		William, hold on.
		When we come back, we're really going to dive into the phones.
		All right?
unidentified		Great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stay right there.
		Yeah, that was really cheery news.
		I even got a little button that said I was a volunteer.
		And as a matter of fact, when I took that, they did not tell me whether my shot was a real shot, you know, or a placebo.
		Only later did I find out that I got the real polio vaccine, and I thought, for all these years, gee, how lucky I am.
		And now, if you listen to the news, maybe I'm not so lucky.
unidentified		Hmm?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lucky us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is...
unidentified		Yes.
		Yes, Art.
		Welcome back.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		You know, Art, I'm starting to feel like Pierre Salinger must have felt.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure that's right.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's lonely out here.
		Well, man, I'm aware, Art.
		I've gotten emails this week, and I'm acutely aware that this story is going to break or make my reputation as a journalist that I've spent 30 years working hard at.
		So I'm not on the radio tonight to deliberately frighten people or be sensationalist.
		I'm reporting the facts as I know them, the patterns as I see them, because I must.
		That's my profession.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Very good.
		We're about to go back to the phones.
		I understand exactly what you're saying.
		And in a lot of ways, it must have taken guts to come forward with this in the first place.
		No doubt about it.
		Let's do that.
		First time call our line.
		You're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening.
unidentified		This is Mike up in Colville, Washington, northeast corner of Washington State.
		Yes, sir.
		We had this past Monday on the Spokane channel, Channel 4 News, a two-part story on the contrails in this area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And I guess the first individual that the doctor had interviewed came from this area, up near Orient, Washington, if I remember right.
		Anyway, the two parts, they talked about the goo over in Seattle and the white blood cells, etc.
		But they also got the local state senator involved in the quest, I guess, for this answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you aware of this coverage, William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that involves Mr. William Wallace, who we spoke about on our last show, Art.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And to my knowledge, this is the first mainstream media coverage.
unidentified		Yes, Senator Bob Morton from that area is doing some letter writing now to find out what he can.
		We had the contrails over us about a year ago.
		It was about, it was on a Saturday evening, or all through the day they had made the checkerboard up in the sky.
		And that evening, we were going into town, a full moon out, and they were still there.
		And after that, we came down with the bronchitis, and the mechanic at work did, and various other friends of mine did.
		But that stayed up for about a day and a half in the air.
		But it was a huge checkerboard.
		Must have covered 20 miles square, at least.
		But anyway, there sounds like they are trying to find out what's going on in this part of the country anyway.
		And hopefully more people out there will, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Your senator has written an Army General asking for an explanation, and I'm very keen to hear the reply if and when it comes.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		We'll keep up with the good work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		You should have mentioned that, William.
		I had no idea that sort of investigation at that level was going on with respect to this.
		I'm surprised.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's about time, frankly, and I think that we're about to see finally some serious media coverage paid to this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Apparently so.
		William, you have an email address.
		Now, there would be people, I would think, by now in the media who would want to get hold of you, number one.
		And I would think a lot of people listening right now would want to relate to you what has happened to them or what they know about this, if anything.
		What is your email address?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Art, I'm going to give you two, if you'll bear with me.
		I'll give you one for the media folks, but because I've been deluged with 1,000 emails since we last spoke, and I'm getting writers cramped, some people down in the States have kindly agreed to set up a chemtrails network for me.
		People with sightings, reports, or questions should contact RichardY2K.
		That's R-I-C-H-A-R-D-Y-2K at ccms.net.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy, that's a long one.
		Okay, well, let's get it all.
		Richard.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Richard Y2K.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Y2K at CCMS.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		M as in Mary?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		C C M S dot net.net.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		My email for anyone who must get in touch with me directly is Wilco, W I L C O at islandnet.com.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		IslandNet is One word.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I've got Richard Y2K at ccms.net.
		And for you, it's Wilco, as in Roger Wilco.
		That's W-I-L-C-O at islandnetOneWord.com.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		And I appreciate having both on the air tonight.
		Again, if people will direct their sightings to the first, that will allow me to get on with my investigations.
		And these will be relayed to me several times a week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you prepared to talk to the media, CNN, the various networks, whoever might come along?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I worked with CMN in Kuwait right after the Gulf War, so I'm quite ready to speak with them in particular.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good, because that's how we take this, as so many other things, to the next level.
		I'm going to be really honest with you, William.
		I don't know whether I believe all of this is true or not.
		I honestly don't know.
		But you have put enough on the table that I want to know.
		And the only way we're going to find out is if somebody assists you, because this is a big, and if true, possibly even dangerous investigation to do.
		And so we're going to have to get some higher-powered people involved.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, did you say that you're not for sure that you believed what he's saying?
		Yep.
		Well, I've got exactly what you need and your audience out there, too, for is to prove what all he's saying is true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, go ahead.
unidentified		Okay, I've got three Senate hearing transcripts on CD-ROM on my website that anybody could get.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I cannot let you give out a website address, sir.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
		Okay, well, what this is is three different about one of them is the biological testing involving human subjects.
		You mentioned one of them, talking about Miss O'Leary, the report that she gives.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hazel O'Leary, yes.
unidentified		And human radiation and scientific experiments.
unidentified		Cold war era, human subject experimentation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, I don't doubt any of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But we are talking now about a specific current program, specifically spraying by jet planes with God knows what, with what ostensibly appear to be contrails.
unidentified		That's what you is talking about while we go for is going over some of the things that have been done already for us spraying over all the different cities across the country.
		It's called what was called a wide area coverage.
		And there was about 300 different cities that was named that they actually admit to doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		William, is that roughly accurate?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's very accurate.
		And I have to agree with you.
		I have trouble with this story, and I'm in the middle of it myself.
		This is a huge effort if this, in fact, is going on.
		I hope that I've demonstrated tonight, or at least pointed out, that we have precedent, as the speaker is reaffirming, and we have pattern.
		We do not have, repeat, we do not have proof.
		We need blood tests.
		We need sample tests.
		We need more media involvement.
		We do have precedent.
		We do have pattern.
		And we have hundreds of very detailed reports.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hi.
		Good morning, Art.
		Good morning, Mr. Thomas.
		I'm Marcia in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi there.
unidentified		Good listening to you on KWHN 1320 a.m.
		Mr. Thomas, you mentioned earlier that Sallasaw, Oklahoma had been the subject of some of this.
		Can you tell me more about that?
		Because I'm just about 30 miles from Sallasaw.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I can.
		Arkansas has quite a few sighting reports, and I have been in close touch with a gentleman named Pat Edgar who has said that he's seen this cobwebbing stuff coming down from what he calls zigzagging jets all day long, line after line, back and forth, like furrows in a farm field.
		Up to 30 contrails he mentioned on a sunny day last October.
		Now, Art, this is important.
		He says there is a lot of lupus in the area since the sprain.
		A lot of women have come down with it.
		There's a lot of lupus in Oklahoma after the sprain.
		There are many reports of fibromyalgia.
		These symptoms exactly correspond to mycoplasm fermentans, the Gulf War illness infectious agent.
		Okay, Salasaw.
		We have a native woman named Mary Young who was watching television late last January, last month, and about a quarter to three in the morning, she heard an airplane circling, and it got closer and closer, and finally it thundered right over her roof.
		She said the windows rattled, the house shook, and something like sand hit the windows.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		She's been sick ever since.
		She says her eyes hurt.
		We heard that from a caller tonight.
		Her joints hurt.
		She's been coughing.
		She's acutely ill.
		Pat Edgar came back to me and said that many people in that area, he mentioned four dozen people, are complaining of nosebleeds, respiratory ailments, and aircraft circling in the dark.
unidentified		Excuse me, what part of Arkansas was he in?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's near Sowasaw himself.
unidentified		Okay, so he must be around Van Buren or Fort Smith.
unidentified		Yeah.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly right near Fort Smith and a place called Gore, 46 miles away.
unidentified		Okay, Gore is in Oklahoma.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Pardon me?
unidentified		Gore is in Oklahoma.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Okay.
		I'm in Fort Smith.
		We've got Fort Champi just barely to the east of us.
		We have the 188th Tactical Fighter Group stationed at the airport here in Fort Smith.
		And Art, there are black helicopters at Fort Chaffee.
		No markings whatsoever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's black helicopters all over the place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They fly over my house all the time.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		Well, this was the first I'd heard of them being here in the Fort Smith area.
		But we do have planes and copters both flying very low late at night.
		I'm up most nights listening to you.
		And I haven't seen any of the cobwebby stuff that I've heard the planes and choppers late at night, and I don't go out to see what's going on because I was, I came down with pneumonia just before Christmas, and I've been having problems since then.
		My husband really had a difficult time keeping from going into total pneumonia.
		He was on antibiotics, and I've quit smoking because of this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's my problem.
		Thank you, ma'am.
		Look, how do we separate the wheat from the chaff from the cobwebs?
		In other words, there's a lot of planes that fly, big deal.
		There's a lot of helicopters that fly even at night.
		They do training missions.
		Big deal, normal stuff, nothing to be shocked or scared about.
		How do we separate normal traffic from this horrid thing you're talking about that may be chemically or biologically, intentionally, affecting human beings, Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, whoever?
		How do we separate all this out?
		I mean, we're going to have people looking up at the sky and saying, oh my God, poison chondrails.
		You know, I don't want that.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I don't want that either.
		That's the last thing I want.
		I suggest that we can separate the masking effect of military and commercial aircraft activity, normal flus and asthma this time of year, with the consequences that seem to follow actual spray events.
		As Ted Edgar told me late January, after these aircraft went over at low altitude, we can't ascribe this to normal flight operations or military operations because he said everybody in this town is sick, sicker than a damn dog.
		It's in their sinuses, in their throat, their ears are ringing.
		If people are that sick after these flights, there is something abnormal going on because usually communities and schools do not come down with these acute symptoms after normal flight operations that we're all used to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I'm one of the ones who's sick, and I'm so sick right now I didn't know if I could make it on this line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		This is Healing Woman, believe it or not.
		I'm calling for you from Montana, picking you up on 1110 out of Omaha.
		And we have been having these lines in our valley.
		Last week at the south end of the valley, back and forth, back and forth.
		And then on Saturday, they flew directly over my house area.
		And on Monday, I didn't feel well.
		And by Tuesday afternoon, I was down for the count.
		I picked up my husband at the airport.
		And by the afternoon of Tuesday, he was with me.
		We both are running 103 fever.
		We have sinus infection, you can't believe, bronchial infection that sounds like it's going into pneumonia.
		I am a nurse, 35 years.
		I've never seen anything like this.
		Really?
		And I've been doing alternative practice for 10 years.
		And I mean, I have a lot of water under my bridge.
		I really know something about immune systems.
		And my husband and I work very hard at maintaining our immune system.
		And I've got some questions.
		And we've both been through the Gulf War Syndrome, too, and we healed ourselves from that one.
		And my husband was an oil consultant.
		He went to Kuwait a week after the war and came home and nine months later came down with that.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
unidentified		And then three and a half years later, I got it, which is very scary.
unidentified		Anyway, you know, I'm curious, is that about the incubation period on this thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good question.
		Healing woman, sit there and be silent during the break and try and get feeling better, and we'll come back to you after the break.
		William Thomas is my guest, and we're talking about contrails.
		He calls them chemtrails.
		How about it out there?
		Do you buy it?
		I guess if you do the research, there's certain parts of it you've got to buy because they're admitted publicly.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast, William Thomas.
		And again, I want to get these email addresses out now.
		One of them, the first one I'm going to give you, is if you wish to report an unusual occurrence or an observation yourself.
		And that would be RichardY2K at ccms.net.
		Repeating, RichardY2K at CCMS.
		That's Charlie, CharlieMarySugar, CCMS.net.
		The other is for William Thomas directly.
		And what we're hoping to do is to get some other media involved.
		It seems like I'm fighting this all my life, my radio life, my professional life.
		We tend to stay ahead of the curve here, as you know.
		And so any media who would like to make some inquiries of an author, an investigative journalist who has obviously done his homework and has more than just hot air to back up what he is saying, if you're in the media and you want to know more, then please email William Thomas at Wilco.
		That's W-I-L-C-O at islandnet, one word.com.
		That's Wilco at islandnet, I-S-L-A-N-D N-E-T dot com.
		All, I presume, lowercase, right?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
		All right, here come the phone calls again.
		First time caller line.
		Oh, no, wait.
		I shouldn't be there.
		Let's go back to healing woman.
		Are you there?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Well, the question I had just before you went off was, what's the incubation time on this thing?
		Number one.
		Okay.
		You want to answer that one first?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there such a thing, William, as apparent incubation after exposure?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there is, Art.
		There are two different times, and it seems to depend on people's individual immune systems.
		Commonly, people who witness a spraying in the afternoon have been stricken by midnight or early the following morning, sometimes even ending up in an emergency room.
		Also, people are reporting an exposure on Thursday where they've seen these contrails and remarked about them to their family and friends.
		They have gotten sick the following Saturday, so you have about a 48-hour incubation time.
		So it either hits you pretty quickly within 8, 10, 12 hours, or it's a couple of days later.
		And that is the pattern that I'm seeing.
unidentified		Well, that fits like an ugly glove.
		You know, the next question, you went to a commercial break and you never answered it.
		And you said you had the answer.
		And that is, why are they doing this to us?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I don't know why.
		I don't even know the who, though we've identified the aircraft involved as Air Force tankers and tactical aircraft.
		Again, I will just suggest to you, as a researcher, as a journalist, a couple of quotes.
		Former National Security Council head Henry Kissinger often spoke of the need to drastically reduce the human population.
		He said, it's too bad we can't use atomic weapons.
		That's a bit too obvious, but we have something even better.
		This is the man who took the United States germ warfare program underground after President Nixon internationally made a pledge to outlaw it.
		Kissinger said we have to reduce world population by at least 60%.
		He said that in front of the United Nations.
		At the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio, Maurice Strong said, quote, man as a species out of control.
		Isn't it the only hope for the planet that the industrialized nations collapse?
		Isn't it up to us to bring that about?
		Art, you mentioned CNN.
		The head of that organization, Ted Turner, said, quote, right now there are just too many people on the planet.
		We need to cut the world's population from the current 5 billion to 250 to 235 million people.
		Prince Philip concurs.
		The head of the World Wildlife Fund said, if I were reincarnated, I would wish to return to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.
		And finally, the late Jacques Costeau said, quote, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day and urge drastic, unconventional decisions.
		The operative word is useless eaters that must be eliminated.
		I call it the lifeboat syndrome, who stays and who goes.
		I will make a further observation as an investigative journalist that the people hardest hit by this sprain are the elderly, primarily the elderly.
		And we can look across the water to England.
		The BBC reports that on January 14th, the BBC reported that more than 8,000 people, mostly elderly, have died, underline died from pneumonia and other respiratory complications in the last week of December and the first two weeks of January 1999.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's usually the older people, the younger people, and people with compromised immune systems.
unidentified		Correct.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		The wheat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		These contrails, I live in Utah in Logan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And the contrails, I'm right on kind of a major airway path with a lot of airplanes that fly overhead.
		And I notice the different configurations, and I don't know if they're contrails or not, but some of them kind of have a spiral effect.
		And they last for quite a while in the air and don't dissipate like the usual, you know, lines from an airplane.
		Is that possible?
		They could be the contrail effect.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting that people who live near airways such as yourself have a ready-made comparison in the skies above them.
		And they are telling me that they see normal contrails at the same time that they are witnessing other contrails that do not dissipate.
		I presume at nearly the same altitudes.
		And they say that this is very striking.
		They have literally side-by-side comparisons.
unidentified		Yeah, because I've noticed some, and like I said, they kind of have a spiral effect and they stay in the air for a long time and don't go away like normal trailing from an airplane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Most of the time contrails go away, but there are indeed times, weather conditions that will hold a contrail in the air or even on occasion it'll turn into a weather front or a cloud bank.
		But this is rather unusual, not usual.
		The usual is a contrail fades away seconds and up to a minute after it forms.
unidentified		Have you guys, have you thought that it's possible maybe they, you know, that the pharmaceutical companies could be involved in this as well with the government to help promote and push their line of product on people?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, the pharmaceutical line of products are not working to alleviate this illness.
		And if I might carry on on that thought and introduce some good news into a rather heavy program tonight, there is one, two effective treatments for people who are listening, who are ill, and have family members who are ill.
		What I am told is that two things work.
		Colloidal silver and ozone or oxygen treatment are very, very effective against the flu-like symptoms.
		I must say quickly that I hesitate recommending colloidal silver because it is a metal and if we take ingest more than is needed to eliminate the stuff from our bodies, we could cause more harm by this metal than what we are dealing with.
		So I urge anyone interested in this treatment to seek professional advice and to use this very carefully.
		But again, it does work.
		Apparently, it's quite effective for the flu-like symptoms.
		Unfortunately, we have another problem associated, possibly associated with the sprain, that we'll get into in a moment here.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead and get into it.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's get into it.
		My friend William Wallace, who I mentioned on the last show, has gone to the media on three occasions.
		And on each occasion, he and his wife Ann, up in the mountains in Washington State, have been visited by jet aircraft or twin turbine propeller aircraft who sprayed their house and only their house at low level.
		I am very, very upset to learn from William Wallace last week that he now has symptoms that are markers for mycoplasm fermentans, the Gulf War illness.
		Short-term memory loss is now a problem with him.
		And I hope you'll forgive me for making it public, but it is the primary marker symptom, burning sperm, a very red flag, if you will, and of course the muscle and joint pain and other symptoms of the mycoplasm fermentons.
		I would suggest to people who are extremely ill to get tested for mycoplasm, not the fermentons, but the pneumonial variant of the mycoplasm, which very interesting art is found in the human white blood cell that has apparently been tested and found to be present in the cobweb fallout from the sprain.
		Other characteristics of mycoplasma, pneumonia, are violent long-term hacking cough, fibromyalgia like joint pain, fluish symptoms, and pneumonia.
		I think we're on to something here, but we're going to need lab tests to confirm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Brother.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Brother is right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it just gets worse and worse.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, I'm in Knottsville, Tennessee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to speak up good and loud for us.
unidentified		I'm in Knottville, Tennessee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And is there a test for this Suetamonis arganosa or whatever it is?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, the question?
unidentified		Is there a test, some kind of blood test or something?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's a quite a simple blood test, and I will say very loudly that I've had one person who is very ill tested for this, and that person tested negative.
		We do need more tests, and I am very interested in hearing the results, positive or negative.
		I would like to eliminate this, but apparently it has been found in this spray.
		But yes, it's a fairly simple blood test.
		I will say, sir, that it's very common in hospitals.
		If people have been hospitalized, it's not a good indicator of this spray.
		But if people have been taken ill, have not been hospitalized, and are tested positive, I would certainly like to hear about it.
unidentified		Well, one reason I was concerned about this is this past fall, I got a heavy-duty case of bronchinis and sinus infection like I've never had before.
		And I had to take six rayons of antibiotics for it before I finally knocked it out.
		They kept changing them to a different type.
		And then after it's all over, ever since then, every seven to ten days, I start getting symptoms like I'm coming down with the flu or something, and it stays with me for 48 hours, and then it's gone.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I have several reports from the Knoxville area, and apparently you've got quite a few hospital admissions, at least enough to make WATE-TV.
		It does seem to be reoccurrent, and gee, that's about all I can say.
		Some people, as you say, seem to knock it out in 48 hours.
		Many, many people seem to be stricken for weeks.
		And quite a few people I'm in touch with say that it is recurrent.
unidentified		Well, like I say, the first time, it stayed with me for six or eight weeks before it finally went away.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		But ever since then, every seven to ten days, I start getting symptoms like I'm coming down with a cold or a flu or something.
unidentified		And then in 48 hours, I'm fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Caller, I'm with you all the way.
		I have experienced the same thing.
		Many of my friends are experiencing that very thing right now.
		Symptoms as though you're coming down with the cold.
		I mean, they're all there.
		The scratchy throat, all the rest of it, the typical symptoms, headache, you know, all the rest of it.
		And then it will go away, and then it will come back again and again and again.
		That probably has meaning.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
		There was a television show in 1979 or 1980 or something like that.
		It was called Project Blue Book, and it came on NBC on Sunday nights.
		And each episode featured something that was supposedly adapted from an actual case that was studied by the guys from Project Blue Book.
		And one of the episodes was entirely about angel hair, which was this wispy cobweb-like material that fell out of the skies.
		And it evaporated or dissipated before they could find out what it was.
		But that was on the TV show.
		And there's also something else interesting, which is I went to Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, and one of my microbiology professors was talking to us about Pseudomonas.
		And before you even said Pseudomonas, I remembered that he told us about this, that it was used to, it was sprayed from airplanes on urban areas to test the dispersion patterns of these kinds of agents.
		And I think he mentioned, I could give you his name off the air or something like that.
		He mentioned that people had died from it because it was sprayed in the area of a hospital and because it's an opportunistic infection.
		And it affected these immunocompromised people and they died from it.
		There might have even been legal action, although I don't remember.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I too have a verification from medical researchers and a very, very long website name that Pseudomonas has been used as a biological warfare simulant over American population centers.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That is absolutely accurate, and I do hope we can track that professor's name perhaps to my email or to Art.
unidentified		Certainly, I don't have access to email with a moment ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Color.
		I appreciate it.
		You can get...
		Most libraries these days have computers, and you can just sit down and use them.
		It's as simple as that.
		Get on the internet and send or receive email or go to a website, whatever.
		One more time, if you want to reach William Thomas and you want to report something that you have seen or experienced or know about, the email address to use is RichardY2K at ccms.net.
		All together, run all together.
		RichardY2K at CCM as in Mary, S as in sugar.net.
		Or if you're in the media and would like to communicate directly with William Thomas and want to know more, want to begin getting involved in this story, then send email to William at Wilco.
		That's W-I-L-C-O at islandnet.
		One word, islandnet.com.
		And that's how you get hold directly of William Thomas.
		And if everybody would be so kind as to please adhere to this, we want to be able, you know, we want the media to be able to get through.
		And if thousands of emails go to William directly, they're not going to get through.
		And they're not going to get the story, which means you're not going to get the story.
		One more hour, William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		One more, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Good.
		Stay right where you are.
		This is coast to coast AM in the nighttime.
		Only in the nighttime.
unidentified		after dark Web of deceit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pardon the pun.
		We're talking about contrails, or as he calls them, chemtrails.
		He believes that we are literally being poisoned from our own skies by our own planes.
		It's something to consider indeed.
		You know, I think that I don't want to believe it.
		Is that a fair comment?
		I don't want to believe it.
		But I am leaning toward it.
		I've taken my own photographs.
		I've got one on the website if you want to go.
		Welcome back.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You still awake, hanging in there?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm very much awake.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you, I'm not bored with this story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm tempted to call into my own interview tonight with an email, if I may, read an email that I think would be of great interest to the listeners here and raised another red flag just this morning.
		This comes from Ash Fork, Arizona.
		It's from Dave Lawrence, and he wrote me last week saying that they were experiencing what he calls a situation in Ashe Fork.
		He says, numerous local residents have lost livestock, and our people have asked me to talk about the dying animals tonight.
		Including the death of 17 horses, numerous wildlife in the immediate area.
		A federal task force has interrogated us, and there is a military presence throughout the area.
		The symptoms are always fatal to animals, I presume.
		And we have been told that this is caused by an unnatural toxin.
		Numerous residents have observed late-night unmarked helicopters flying low over the area.
		Toxic waste disposal trucks being driven by uniformed military personnel have also been seen on rural residential streets.
		Now this is important.
		A fine, mist-like, hairspray substance was observed on the backs of many of the animals.
		One rancher has lost three horses to whatever this is.
		I read this and thought, this is very strange.
		And then today I was going through these medical research studies, and this jumped out at me.
		Pseudomonas causes a disease in horses known as glanders.
		In other words, Pseudomonas kills horses.
		And I'll just put that out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello?
		Yes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you.
unidentified		Hello, William.
unidentified		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can barely hear you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yell at us.
unidentified		Oh, pardon me.
		I'm originally from Michigan, and one day I noticed there were two low-level flying KC-135 tanker planes.
		They were unmarked, and they were practicing touch-and-go landings at the International Airport.
		And all day long, they were flying real low and slow around the whole city.
		And about a day and a half later, they were leaving these contrails, as you say.
		And about a day and a half later, I started having chest pain, and I had to be admitted into the hospital for collapsing lung.
		And I'm just curious if you know any agent that would induce such a thing, because they just attributed it to a spontaneous pneumothorax.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		A higher dose of JP8 ethylene dilomide would certainly do that, but that's a very high dose indeed.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		What color was this aircraft?
unidentified		They were dark military green.
unidentified		There was two of them.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's really hard to say, sir.
		Some of these touch-and-goes indicate normal training practice.
		I can tell you that there are 88 flying units in the Air National Guard in the United States flying out of 170 different installations.
		18 of these units are air refueling wings, and they fly the KC-135.
		Each unit usually has four aircraft.
		I can tell you tonight that there are a good dozen people out there keeping a close eye on the major Air Force bases throughout the United States.
		And they're telling me that these Air National Guard tankers stay mostly on the ground.
		And so far they have been painted a flat, light gray military color, such as you've just described.
		At no time have they seen these all-white or in some cases solid black tanker planes.
		So it doesn't seem to be coming from the usual Air National Guard units.
		And I'm not sure that the touch-and-goes and the flights you described could or necessarily are linked to your lung problem, but I will admit that it's certainly suggestive.
unidentified		Yeah, the curious thing about it was that the patient in the next semi-private room with me had been admitted for a pneumonia problem, too.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Now that's interesting.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		I very much appreciate the call.
		And you never quite know what to make of this, William.
		I mean, there are these things that occur spontaneously.
		There is pneumonia that occurs fairly widespread.
		But then on the other hand, you seem to have amassed an awful lot of evidence that a lot of this is not normal.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'm convinced that something is going on.
		The weight of evidence points to, again, precedent and pattern.
		I'm still not sure who is behind this or what the purpose is, except I'm increasingly suspecting a biological warfare experiment.
		What bothers me in all of this is, gosh, the experiment's been done.
		The effects have been noted.
		Why is this continuing?
		This bothers me.
		I'll say very quickly to the skeptics out there that, you remember we were talking about spraying over 239 cities and communities and people checking this out.
		Well, get this, Art.
		Right now, as we speak, there is a nationwide flu study sponsored by the Center for Disease Control.
		They have a 1-800 number.
		It's 1-800-IGOTFLU.
		And if you got the flu, you can call this number and ask to participate in the study.
		Now, this is very suggestive.
		I've been in touch with a woman whose daughter got very sick very, very fast in Ohio.
		So she called 1-800-IGOTFLU.
		The mom called the number.
		And she tells me she was shocked to learn that you must meet certain criteria to qualify for the study.
		For example, you must live within a 35-mile radius of an outbreak.
		You must have specific symptoms and only specific symptoms, which she was not given over the phone.
		You have to have gotten sick within a certain time frame.
		The study requires that if you pass the requirement test, you go in for a medical exam and treatments and five visits over five weeks or longer, which she thought seems a very long time to have the flu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't agree more.
		And I've had the version that comes and goes and comes and goes and comes and goes.
		Endlessly, it seems.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		Hi.
		This is Lori in Anchorage on T9650.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anchorage, yes.
unidentified		And I just wanted to give an update to that study you was just talking about, the 1-800 I Got Flu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm a native here, and I go to the Native Hospital, and I've had this flu symptoms for almost a year.
		And they have me in respiratory therapy.
		And when I was talking to the technician there, she was telling me how the government wanted them to keep an anonymous subject illness list, you know, on when there is a peak period and what's the common symptoms that everybody has.
		And I just thought that was just kind of odd.
		Princess C just brought that up.
		And also, you said earlier that you smelled a certain scent before you got sick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And the scent that I was smelling around in our area was like an intense alcohol mix with like burning plastic.
unidentified		Is that about the same that you've experienced?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Or how about this, Art?
		Did it smell like a mill town?
		One person described it as a mill town or oil refinery?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I can only give you what I gave earlier, and that's kind of a vague sense of burning, but not the normal, God, I can't put it to words.
		A sort of a sense of something burning, but I have not quite smelled the smell before, so I'm sorry.
		How do you describe a smell?
		It's like trying to describe a color.
		I'm sorry, I don't have any reference to be able to tell you, just a sort of a sense of something burning that I have not smelled before.
unidentified		And also, I've thoroughly enjoyed the articles in the National Examiner on your book, The Source, and I just wanted to say thank you for putting it out there for us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
		Happy to do it.
		Take care.
		It is true.
		There are weekly articles now in The Examiner.
		Have you checked that out?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Tom, Perry, Iowa.
unidentified		He's listening to KRNT 1350 in Des Moines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Happy to have you.
unidentified		Mr. Thomas, wasn't JP-8 the fuel originally formulated to power the SR-71?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		And thank you for that lead-in.
		I guess it's late enough, Art.
		I can say this over the air, but the smell might be cancer piss.
		And that is the nickname given by Air Force refueling people to the additive used with the SR-71 Blackbird.
		And they named it this because of the smell.
		It almost stank.
		It was a very strong odor.
		And this was added to the JP-8 in order to eliminate contrails.
		Because you have an aircraft flying so high, so stealthily, you can't paint it with normal detection.
		But if it puts a bright white line across the sky, this Air Force refueler told me, you're going to lose your stealth and your aircraft.
		So they put this additive in.
		One problem, it's a very potent insecticide and carcinogen, and it, too, is a banned substance.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yeah, I have some more information here.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Good.
unidentified		The JP-8, now you understand the SR-71 has been retired.
		Yes.
		And I'm suggesting a logical explanation for this would be the government burning off reserves of this fuel.
		Now, I don't know if that's happening, but that's just a logical explanation for it.
		And they may be mixing it with the more volatile normal jet fuels to get rid of the reserves.
		But I have some other information here.
		About a year and a half ago, I attended a prophecy club meeting.
		It's an outfit from Topeka, Kansas, a Christian organization.
		And they had a speaker there.
		His name was Al Cuppett, C-U-P-P-E-T-T.
		And Art, you've got to get this guy on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and he's known by the Prophecy Club as Mr. C. Well, look, if you have somebody you would like on the air, sir, simply contact me and provide me, please, with contact information.
		In other words, a way for me to get hold of this person.
		I would like to urge everybody who wants me to have somebody on to do that.
		Provide a phone number is best.
		Web addresses are second best, but give me something to go on.
		West of the Rockies, you're on there with William Thomas.
unidentified		Good evening, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, William.
unidentified		Thank you for making my call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Mount Shasta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not in it, I presume, but on it or near it.
unidentified		On the slopes, hopefully not in it yet.
		First, Mr. Bell, I'd like to say that I think you're very correct in being very cautious with the issue tonight.
		It is frightening.
		And we are, as a nation and probably as a world, seeing diseases and outbreaks that we haven't seen before or in many generations and environmental things.
		And we're all looking for something to focus these issues on.
		And I'm going to come from a skeptic's point of view tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Just in the sense that I appreciate the program because I have seen the very same type of trails in the sky that everyone has talked of tonight.
		Our communities up here have experienced the same types of illnesses, the same types of outbreaks.
		Something a little more unusual perhaps happened here at my home with a herd of goats that I had in the backyard.
		And I'm glad you spoke about how it affects animals because we had a few goats and one of our favorite goats just became tragically ill within a 12 to 14 hour period.
		It flat out died.
		And it was a very healthy, 12-month-old goat, a very good breeder, a very expensive goat, very well taken care of.
		My vet kept telling me that he smelt chemical from my goat, from his breath.
		And he checked his eyes and his gums and felt through his body and knew that something chemical had happened to my goat.
		But I knew, because of the way I keep my goats, that nothing could have happened to my goat.
		And it just so happened earlier that day.
		My little boy and I were watching the sky, and he was five years old and really into seeing the airplanes, and he was playing tic-tac-toe in the sky out on the front lawn.
		And I laid down on the lawn with him, and I, you know, we were musing at the patterns, but they weren't anything for me to pay attention to until your show tonight.
		If I see them in the future, I hope I won't be fearful, but I hope I will be more observant because of the information you've delivered.
		And I think that's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think a lot of people, after hearing this, are going to be more observant, for sure.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what I worry about is that people will have no way of really discerning between a normal old contrail and what they will worry is something that's going to poison them.
unidentified		Well, I think I'd probably agree with William that that probably may come through an experience because, as I was saying, that day that we saw those, that night, four of my five goats died and we became very ill.
		And I never really put it together until tonight.
		There have been other things that happened in our area.
		We have a massive outbreak here of multiple sclerosis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dear, listen, I've got to break you off because I've got to take a quick break.
		So stay right where you are, please, and we will be right back.
		Back to William Thomas and Eric Collar.
		Caller, you're back on the air again.
unidentified		Thank you, Mr. Bell.
		Sure.
		I wanted to throw one thing at you and leave you ponder that for a few minutes while I throw a few quick things at William, and I'll be real quick.
		All right.
		First, I'd like to ask you, in 1997, you had a guest, and I can't remember his name, who talked about a virus that was to appear in Africa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		That was his name, correct.
		So you recall what that was about.
		It was about a virus that would travel and travel through the air and first start in Africa and then cross.
		I recall, yes.
		My question in mind draws to the fact that you also spoke about this bacteria that they are creating to kill hemp.
		And I was wondering for William, William, are you seeing any of these effects also in other countries?
		Is it only just America where you're seeing it?
		And I was wondering, since some of the test samples have shown human cells or human DNA, shouldn't those also be testable in water and soil samples?
		And have any of those been done?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would absolutely make sense.
		Hold it there.
		You're asking a lot of questions.
unidentified		Okay, I have a couple more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'll just take your answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Water and soil samples, she makes a very good point.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and we urgently need those samples to be tested.
		The problem, of course, is that these cobweb-like materials do not hang around for testing.
		They sublimate or dissolve very rapidly so that people are having a hard time gathering them up.
		And a few people have corresponded and said they've taken them to labs, and the labs won't give them the report back.
		So there's that problem as well.
		I would like to see that sampling done.
		This Pseudomonas is very resilient and likes wet soil very much.
		So we ought to be able to get a handle on it if enough people can collect samples and get them in.
		We are seeing, as I mentioned, a huge epidemic of upper respiratory illness and fatalities in England after X's were observed over London and other cities.
		And this goop was observed on windshields.
		The person who wrote me said it took a high-pressure spray to get it off his windshield.
		And BBC reported over 91,000 cases of people reporting to hospitals with upper respiratory, acute upper respiratory problems in recent weeks.
		I have reports of contrail sightings in Europe and in Australia, but I have absolutely no details at this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay, thank you very much.
		I would also like to know if it's possible that perhaps this is being done to boost our own immune systems to a projected war or possible war, in your opinion.
		And my last question would be, a government or a structure organized enough to create a virus that would attack specific groups, such as young and old, is also corrupt enough to realize that the young is the most programmable and trainable to their benefit.
		And so I don't understand, and I find it hard to buy just because I can't see them killing both.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Her first question relating to could they be doing something for our own good?
		Could they, for example, be vaccinating us against something that they feel might be used against the general population?
		Had you considered that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I have considered it.
		Many people are asking me, is this some kind or could this be an aerial inoculation?
		I'm saying it's very ineffective.
		It seems hit and miss.
		It's very costly.
		Rural areas are being sprayed as often or more often than large population centers.
		If you're going to inoculate a populace against a biological attack, I've read extensively on this eventuality.
		You vaccinate cities, you go to the big population centers, and you do it on the ground.
		It doesn't seem to be effective.
		It does seem to be making people very, very sick and really trashing their immune systems.
		This is not something you want to do to a population if it, in fact, faces a biological threat.
		So I don't buy it.
		Anything is possible at this point.
		I do remain open to any suggestion that's plausible.
		But this one, from a military standpoint, from a government standpoint, I'm not certain at all.
		One thing that struck me, Art, the caller from Mount Chasta mentioned a multiple sclerosis outbreak.
		MS usually isn't associated with outbreaks.
		I would suggest to her that this isn't MS at all, but very possibly mycoplasm fermentans, which has the exact same symptomology as MS. And again, I would very much like to see people Tested and those reports emailed into our network here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you are now on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hi.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		We're Ferndale, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ferndale, by the way.
unidentified		Canadian Warden.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And my wife's on the extension phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, that's not going to work out because I can barely hear you.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's better.
unidentified		That's better.
		Okay, there we go.
		Well, back in November, we went and walked our dog out in a ball field, and it was covered with what we thought were spider webs.
		And I said, well, there's no way a whole field could be covered with spider webs.
		And we, you know, picked some up, touched it, you know, said, that's really weird.
		Never seen anything like it before.
		And now hearing this on your show and going, geez, I wonder if that's what that was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Spider webs, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, it's just like the whole field just covered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		But you didn't get sick from it or your dog or anyone?
unidentified		No one knows.
		I know we've, ever since then, off and on, seems like we try to come down with the cold, like a sore throat and all that, but then it goes away.
		But we've been going through this cycle.
		I know everyone in our area is really sick right now.
		Actually, my grandmother just passed away from pneumonia.
		They could never get a handle on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm hearing that from everybody.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm hearing it too.
unidentified		We were wondering if there's a way of testing antibodies in the blood to know if you've been exposed to something?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, this Pseudomonas I think is a fairly simple blood test.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		In fact, the mycoplasm is more involved, but it can be tested for.
unidentified		We're just wondering about long-range effects.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the short-range effects are worrying enough.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know the answer to that, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call and take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with William Thomas and Art Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, good morning, Art.
		This is Dan in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Dan.
unidentified		Well, previous caller had kind of hit on the population if it was being affected in other parts of the world.
		I was thinking also it'd be interesting, I know this is a wild stretch, to correlate any sightings other than airplanes over these centers that are having these outbreaks.
		It's just something that'd be interesting to see if there's any kind of correlation.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		But I've done that, in fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And there is an exact correlation, and you will find that on my website with the third article I've just posted.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And in fact, I went through the documented evidence I had of outbreaks, people reporting to hospital, in record numbers with the sightings, and they match exactly.
unidentified		That's phenomenal.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Dan.
		Good morning.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		I used to live just two miles from an Air Force base directly under the flight path that they would come in on when they were landing, usually and sometimes when they were taking off.
		And I've had arthritis since I was in my 20s, and I've had constant chest infections and pneumonia and stuff since I was in my teens.
		Do you think that might be connected to this ethylene dibromide or something?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I think it very possibly could be.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And as I mentioned earlier, people living around Air Force bases are exposed to groundwater contamination from jet fuel spills and a degreasing agent that has infiltrated groundwater supplies in many American cities and communities around air bases.
unidentified		And is that the Edwing Dibromite is the one that goes back the most years, right?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		1994, 1991, excuse me, they switched over from JP4 to JP8.
		It was banned in the late 80s.
unidentified		Could they have been using it as far back as the 70s?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Not officially, but other additives may have been used.
unidentified		I have no hard information on that.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		The official changeover was 91.
unidentified		And do you have a list of those 239 cities on your website?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
		The information tonight isn't on my website, but it will be.
		And I think I've got about a dozen cities listed in this report.
		But again, the 239 was a stretch of years in the 1960s, sir, and it does not include the 80s or the 70s or the 50s.
		So if we did that, we'd go to a much higher number.
		Again, this is from U.S. Senate investigations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, caller.
unidentified		All right, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and take care.
		And West of the Rockies, your turn with William Thomas.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hi, William.
		Aloha from Hawaii.
		This is Joe.
		Long time no talk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Joe.
unidentified		How are you doing?
		William, I've got a question for you.
		With all the amount of aircraft that I'm hearing everyone talk about, is there any, has your investigation led to anything being said by the FAA, any air traffic controllers recording any of these aircraft doing these crisscross patterns?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, have you heard from FAA pilots, anybody like that, William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		The only thing the FAA has told us, us being people investigating this, is one, these are normal flight operations.
		These are international training flights.
		And C, yeah, there's something going on, but these are not our aircraft.
		And those are the three responses from the FAA.
unidentified		Well, I would think that the air traffic controllers, the guys, the everyday guys that sit behind the scopes, would be able to see the patterns being flown in the sky.
unidentified		And also, maybe even if we put a call out to them, might even tell us where the flights are originating and terminating at.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He does make a good point with respect to the X's that we're talking about and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be an air traffic control concern, wouldn't it?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, as with the grid patterns.
		And the aircraft today, of course, are equipped with digital transponders, which would report not only their airspeed, Altitude and heading, but I talked to an air traffic controller the other day up here in Canada, and he said it would also give them information on the type of aircraft and its registry, who owns the aircraft, who is responsible for it.
		I dearly hope someone would come forward from the air traffic controller circle to set some light on this.
		But you're absolutely right.
		The information should, underline, should be there.
unidentified		Correct.
		And I believe that some of that information also is recorded information that actually might still be on files somewhere.
		Anyway, great show, guys.
		I'll get off the phone and let everybody else call in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you, sir.
		Take care.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, my name's Claudia, and I'm from South Lake, Tahoe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And about two years ago, I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
		And also in the last week, I had that bronchitis, and I'm on the oxygen at home.
		They want to put me in the hospital.
		And that all happened with like not even within 24 hours.
		And I have a lawyer that's I had the fibromyalgia who said that in South Lake Tahoe, all the fibromyalgia cases are acute cases.
		And like there's different stages of different, you know, on the fibromyalgia, how bad it is for a person.
		But in South Lake Tahoe, it's very acute.
		Now I was wondering if he knows in this area on fibromyalgia, if he knows that there's anything to do with the sprain in this area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I don't have anything specifically in your area.
		I can say generically that fibromyalgia is on a sharp increase.
		It has been so for several years now.
		And again, we're back into this masking phenomena.
		Is this related to the widespread suppression and breakdown of our immune systems from a wide range of toxins in the environment and particularly stress, as I believe it to be?
		Is it related to the contrails as well?
		Very, very hard to separate them.
		And I'm afraid that's about the best I can do, but I am noticing fibromyalgia on the increase, and in some cases, it appears to be associated with the sightings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, I'm in North Central Washington, Sharon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, ma'am.
unidentified		And for one, first I want to make a comment.
		The gentleman I called from Ferndale, we have a niece and a nephew up in that area, and they and their families have been both very sick since November 2.
		And also, I had a question if there was any this area, the north central area, because we call it what they call the Cooley Crud, and it was very severe last year, and it's already starting to come up severe again this year, more than usual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I think that is an active area, isn't it, William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Extremely active area.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely one of the epicenters.
unidentified		Yeah, because there's been, and some of our cats, every one of our cats have had some problems, too, like mouth cancer and sores and cancerous-type sores and such on them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it would make sense, wouldn't it, Thomas, that animals that would be outside would be particularly exposed and vulnerable to this, huh?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's true in cats.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It seems to be showing up most often in these reports.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on to something.
		I don't know what.
		You know, if you're really on to what you think you're on to, isn't this dangerous for you?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I've given a lot of thought to that, as you can appreciate, since our first show.
		And I would have to say at this point, no.
		This is out now.
		Too many people know about it.
		As I say, there are five people investigating this full-time, sending me information.
		This is already broken on Channel 4, and I think it's going to go further very soon.
		So, as you know, in this business art, once it's public, we're a lot safer than sitting on this kind of information.
		So, I'm not especially fearful myself at this point.
		We've gotten the story out.
		I would like to add, picking up on that quickly, that I'm very concerned tonight, and it's not my wish to get on the air and spread fear among people that have plenty to be afraid about.
		I do wish to spread the alarm.
		I think it's very important to yell fire if the building is in fact burning down around us.
		But I would hope to spur people and motivate people to act and to come together.
		This is a time to build alliances, I feel.
		And the email we gave out earlier tonight for this network, I would like to see build into a very active network, not just a chat line or a place to file reports, but a place for people who want to become active and have a voice similar to the voice that saved the Miami Circle that could insist and demand and see a congressional investigation launched and corporate mainstream media take a look at
unidentified		this.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I think we could become a very powerful voice very quickly indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I hope it goes that way.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas and not a whole lot of time here, hi.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Bill in Chicago.
		Hi, Bill.
		Right after I heard the subject being discussed on your show, it was January 26th.
		The morning was totally overcast, but in the afternoon, the clouds broke up, and this area was totally crisscrossed.
		Must have been hundreds.
		Right after that, people started getting sick, and my wife, who's never heard the Art Bell show or had any kind of concerns, just noticed that the death notices in one weekend newspaper was tenfold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that would be something to watch.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That got my ears, attention.
unidentified		And so I'm a retired military, so I've always watched the contrails.
		I said, well, if they're flying to Spain, why don't they just fly to Spain while this crisscrossing?
		But that day, the morning was totally overcast.
		It looked like it was just going to be overcast all day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now O'Hare, to be fair, is a major hub.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you're going to have planes going all over the place.
unidentified		No, this was hundreds of contrails crisscrossed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds.
unidentified		Yes.
		The afternoon, the clouds broke up and it cleared away.
		I'm surprised nobody else has called you and told you about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, only so many people can get through, I'm afraid.
		And that's a very tiny percentage.
		William, it has been a pleasure having you on the show again.
		We're way out of time.
		The two email addresses, if you want to report something, it's Richard, the name Richard, Y2K, at ccms.net.
		If you are in the media and would like to follow up on what you have heard tonight and contact William directly, please send email to Wilco, W-I-L-C-O, at islandnet, one word, islandnet.com.
		How's that, William?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Sounds great.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Hart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care, my friend.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I will, and I, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, take care.
		Be safe, in other words.
		Okay, folks, that's it.
		We are out of time.
		Or as some Canadians would say, ooh.
		Tomorrow night, Gary North is going to be here.
		And it's going to be a lollipop to loser.
		See you later.

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