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On January 28, 1999, Coast to Coast AM’s Art Bell hosted Linda Moulton Howe, who detailed 11 dolphin deaths in Thailand, a 1989 Fulda triangle UFO sighting (1,000 ft sides), and the NSF’s Antarctic drilling project. Callers debated the Antichrist—one claimed June 6 birth, another linked it to a UN-affiliated Ashkenazi Jew—while Bell dismissed coincidences like area code 666. Gersten argued churches propagate deception since Constantine, tying Y2K fears to media suppression. The episode blurred conspiracy, paranormal claims, and apocalyptic theories, leaving listeners questioning government transparency and societal conditioning. [Automatically generated summary]

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Linda Moulton Howe Interview 00:03:29
unidentified
Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 28th, 1999.
From the high deserts and the great American Southwest.
art bell
I bid you all good evening or a good morning, whoever the case may be, wherever you may be, and that's a wide territory indeed, from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands, out west, eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north the Pole, worldwide on the internet, thank youbroadcast.com.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell.
And in the first hour this night, we are going to speak with Linda Molten Howe, who has quite a bit of news for you, as a matter of fact.
In the second hour, because, of course, of first of all, I suppose, my natural inclination, but then, how could I resist the fact that Jerry Falwell has said the Antichrist is probably alive today and, in fact, is a male Jew.
And he also said the second coming of Christ will occur within the next 10 years.
The important part of this story is Jerry Falwell has said the Antichrist is here now.
Now, as you know, a year ago, approximately, I opened the Antichrist line.
It was a very illuminating experience for me.
Now, I did this far ahead of the Reverend Falwell.
But his statement about the Antichrist being here now absolutely compels me to once again open my Antichrist line next hour.
So, should be interesting, funny, scary.
I don't know what it'll be.
We'll open a line to anybody out there who thinks, or should I say, knows, they are the Antichrist.
Last time, I rang off the hook.
Anyway, we will get to Linda Moulton Howe and a big update for you in just a moment.
Stay right where you are.
You're in the right spot.
unidentified
All right, we'll kind of update the headlines in the next hour.
art bell
Right now, Linda Moulton Howe from Philadelphia Linda is, she protests this, I think, the nation's premier crop circle animal mutilation investigator.
She really resists that title.
I think that she has won some number of awards for her environmental documentaries.
Her science is careful, a plotting, very careful indeed, and you can be sure when you hear something, you can take it to the bank if Linda Moulton Howe says it.
She's a science reporter here on Coast, a weekly reporter on Dreamland.
Here she is, Linda Molten Howe.
Hi, Linda.
linda moulton howe
Hi, Ari.
art bell
And I forgot, Miss Iowa.
unidentified
No.
linda moulton howe
No, Idaho.
Strange Triangle Craft Encounter 00:14:50
art bell
No, Miss Idaho.
unidentified
Miss Idaho.
linda moulton howe
Well, it helped put me through my master's degree at Stanford University that set me on this path of investigating science, medicine, and the environment.
art bell
Also put a lot of web hits on my website.
linda moulton howe
Well, I have always been intrigued by the world around me, and I am also sad as we are getting ready to go into the next century at how much deterioration there is on this planet.
Mysterious marine deaths are in the news again.
On Wednesday, January 27th, 11 bottlenose dolphins were found dead off southern Thailand, and no one knows why.
The dolphins were all young males about five and a half feet long.
A spokesman at the Phuket Marine Biotech Center said, quote, it is rare and strange to find dolphins this young and strong dying in such large numbers, unquote.
The center has received six of the dead dolphins to determine the cause of death.
The Thai Gulf is home to several hundred bottlenose dolphins, so it is important to find out what is killing them.
Also making headlines this week were scientists who finally hit bedrock about two-thirds of a mile beneath the Antarctic in what's known as Sipple Dome, an immense bulge of ice 500 miles north of the South Pole.
It took three years of drilling.
The project is sponsored by the National Science Foundation in Washington, D.C.
The goal is to find out if there was any time in Earth's past when the Antarctic ice cap was completely gone.
Next year, the research team hopes to dig up several feet of underlying bedrock to see if that was ever exposed to sunlight or cosmic rays.
art bell
Yes, I saw them landing on CNN, by the way.
linda moulton howe
Yeah, and so far, other evidence to this point suggests much of the Antarctic ice cap did vanish about 125,000 years ago.
If that's true, what happened back then?
art bell
Good flood.
linda moulton howe
When with global warming upon us and sea levels rising into this next century, could this happen again in our future?
This is one of the challenges to this scientific effort.
Now, each month, I receive several reports from people in the United States and other countries who describe seeing unusual objects in the sky that they cannot identify.
For those close enough to see a shape, the description is usually round, oval, or cylindrical, or sometimes diamond ice cream cone or boomerang.
And then there is another class of aerial vehicles that are very large and silent.
Those are the triangles.
For example, between November 1989 and March 1990, civilian and military officials in Belgium received over 2,500 reports of large silent triangles over that country.
And we're all familiar with the March 13, 1997 appearance of an unidentified large silent triangle over Phoenix, Arizona, estimated by some witnesses to be nearly a mile or two miles long.
Even further back in time, there is the April 1954 U.S. War Department's Majestic 12 Psalm 101 training manual that's reprinted in my book, Glimpses of Other Realities, Volume 2, High Strangeness, and is also in the Bob and Ryan Wood documents.
In it, there is a section labeled Extraterrestrial Technology Description of Craft.
And it states, quote, airfoil or triangular shape.
This craft is believed to be new technology due to the rarity and recency of the observations.
Radar indicates an isosceles triangle profile, the longest side being nearly 300 feet in length.
Little is known about the performance of these craft due to the rarity of good sightings, but they are believed capable of high speeds and abrupt maneuvers similar to or exceeding the performance attributed to disk and ovoid shapes, unquote.
And that was a 1954 description by our own government.
Tonight, I want to report an extraordinary triangle craft encounter that took place on the Cold War border of East and West Germany near Fulda in the summer of 1989.
Fulda is northeast of Frankfurt.
The eyewitness is retired Army Sergeant Clifford E. Stone, author of UFOs Are Real.
Sergeant Stone served for more than 20 years as an Army nuclear, biological, and chemical retrieval specialist.
He feels strongly that the United States government should go on the record publicly about its knowledge of extraterrestrial craft and entities.
That is why he is writing and speaking out.
This story begins on a late summer afternoon in 1989, about four months after the Belgian flyovers of triangle-shaped craft had made international news.
Sergeant Stone is standing in a checkpoint tower with other security people and can clearly see guards in the East German tower across the border.
An alert comes in that a new Soviet aircraft is coming toward them, low to the ground.
Sergeant Stone told me what happened during my recent visit to his Roswell, New Mexico home.
Here, for the first time, with his permission, is an excerpt from that interview.
Sergeant Clifford Stone.
art bell
Now you're going to hear it first, folks.
Here he comes.
sergeant clifford stone
This is what the person that's reporting has no knowledge.
He's making an assumption here.
He's assuming it's Soviet because it's coming in from the Soviet side, and it actually comes over and very carefully glides this way.
Well, since we were already involved and we could see that it was somewhat triangular shape from a distance, and it came in very slowly and turned, you have a vehicle that is triangular in shape that is probably four or five stories high,
three rows of what appears to be lighted windows or ports or something, three football fields across on either side.
This is no craft that was developed on this earth.
unidentified
This is a thousand feet equilateral triangle?
sergeant clifford stone
Equilateral.
unidentified
This is huge.
linda moulton howe
And you're in the tower outside?
sergeant clifford stone
I'm in the tower.
I still have the field glasses that I looked at Andrew.
linda moulton howe
But are you behind windows?
sergeant clifford stone
No, no, no, no.
The tower that we're in is open.
It did take on definite, definite dimension the way you could tell.
This is not any type of conventional type airframe of the Soviets or any other country on the face of this earth.
When you saw how huge it was, your immediate impact on you was a fleeing moment of fear.
But then your fear turns to awe because you are seeing something that defies the imagination.
You are seeing something that you want the grand tour.
You really want to be inside.
You want to see what this is all about.
unidentified
What color are you seeing?
sergeant clifford stone
At that time, we are seeing underneath, we have one big massive light right at the center, circular.
And it's red.
And then along slightly inside underneath the craft, you have several rows.
I didn't count them, I can't recollect how many, but you have several rows of flashing lights, multicolored lights, every color of the rainbow.
unidentified
Are they going like this, this, this, or going around like that?
sergeant clifford stone
Then all of a sudden, and they'll go up faster speed.
linda moulton howe
So the triangle itself is like bordered or edged and flashing different color lights.
sergeant clifford stone
Flashing different color lights.
linda moulton howe
And there's a great big red light in the middle.
sergeant clifford stone
Right in the middle.
At the corner of the triangle, inside where the colored lights are, you have like an orange or amber light at each hand, and sometimes they would flash white.
There was a high background radiation strong enough to kill the people within what was it?
Half the people that was involved there should have been dead within 24 hours because of the background radiation.
Yet, there was no ill effects.
There were some people who got sick, but this was more along the lines of fear causing these people to get sick.
unidentified
And were they all military who got sick?
sergeant clifford stone
Oh, everybody.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
As far as the civilians go, the location we were at.
If any civilians saw it, none really came around and reported it.
On the Soviet side, I have no knowledge.
unidentified
I'll try to say on the German side, I have no knowledge what happened there.
But you had military people who were going to a hospital sick?
sergeant clifford stone
We had military people who came down nauseous.
The aid personnel trained took care of them right out there on the gap.
unidentified
Started vomiting?
They got sick.
sergeant clifford stone
They vomited.
linda moulton howe
Right there.
sergeant clifford stone
Right there.
linda moulton howe
Was the craft in the sky above them when they started vomiting?
sergeant clifford stone
Not directly over us.
Because you have an area that is of Soviet territory that's between us and them that there's no one there.
I mean, it's on no man's zone.
unidentified
So the triangle was over the Soviet Union.
sergeant clifford stone
Well, it was over the Soviet territory.
It didn't come into our territory.
We scrambled, we had fighter aircraft scrambled from Rheinstein Air Force Base to do an IIF intercept.
That's to intercept, intercept, identify friend or foe.
And they were doing this, but we could not go into the Soviet territory.
Now, we, which I wasn't involved with, but we were monitoring radio traffic from the Soviet side, and I know that they were very alarmed and concerned about what they were seeing.
They also scrambled some fox bats to do an intercept, and these fox bats were, in fact, armed, and there was discussion of them, there was discussion as to them engaging this craft.
linda moulton howe
Did they have people vomiting on the Russian side, too?
sergeant clifford stone
I don't know.
unidentified
But on our side?
sergeant clifford stone
On our side, I was there.
unidentified
I know what happened there.
sergeant clifford stone
On the Soviet side, we could see it, we could tell that they were panicky just like us.
Were the men who were vomiting within what distance from the I would say they were closest approach was probably maybe 200 meters.
linda moulton howe
And is that vertical 600 feet in the air or is it lower enough?
sergeant clifford stone
At an angle.
linda moulton howe
Okay, and how high do you think it was?
sergeant clifford stone
Oh, I would say it was probably 400 or 500 feet high.
unidentified
It was low.
sergeant clifford stone
That's why it was very.
If it would have been higher, it would have been awesome, but you wouldn't have the feeling that it was going to land.
I mean, every.
linda moulton howe
The feeling it was going to land.
sergeant clifford stone
We had the feeling that we were about to be confronted.
And your hair was standing up on its end.
I mean, like electrostatic?
Yeah.
And, you know, we felt like we felt that there was something more to this than it just being our fears.
And anyone who said they wasn't afraid is not telling the truth.
unidentified
Wow.
sergeant clifford stone
I can understand a person trying to deny being there and seeing anything more than I could not.
I could understand a person saying he saw it and he wasn't afraid.
linda moulton howe
So this is about 400, 500 feet up, maybe at about an angle of 600 feet on an angle.
And then, you, yourself included in the tower, would be about 600 feet away from it?
sergeant clifford stone
I would say we were roughly 600 feet or so away from it.
linda moulton howe
Did you feel nauseous?
sergeant clifford stone
I didn't get sick.
I didn't feel nauseous.
I took an alka seltzer after that, but I always had problems, and alka seltzer always made me feel better.
linda moulton howe
Temperature?
Warm, cold?
sergeant clifford stone
You felt cold, but I hear again, I think that was more a physiological, more of a psychological effect.
linda moulton howe
Could you feel any vibration of anything?
sergeant clifford stone
Actually, no.
art bell
Actually, we're losing audio.
unidentified
Actually, it was very quiet.
sergeant clifford stone
And I looked at the guys on my left, and I looked at the guys on my right.
art bell
There we go.
sergeant clifford stone
And one guy went ahead, and on the back of the APCs, the M113s, we had anti-tank messages.
And one guy was getting ready to fire one of these at the object.
And I went ahead and I told him to hold on, son.
Don't do anything.
unidentified
Don't fire anything.
sergeant clifford stone
We're not in any danger here.
You do something like that.
unidentified
But it was probably...
linda moulton howe
Did he back off?
sergeant clifford stone
Yeah, he went ahead and regained his composure.
But all of us were scared.
Even the Alton, no one ran.
No one, we didn't.
The Selviots didn't.
we held our ground but you forced you you were afraid I mean, you really had this fear.
And you had your weapons.
linda moulton howe
You had your weapons drawn or weapons drawn?
sergeant clifford stone
Oh, we had our weapons.
Unique Radio Static Incident 00:03:25
sergeant clifford stone
I mean, you could even hear them chambering around.
And the colonel there, Lieutenant Colonel, he went ahead and told everyone to check their fire, check the fire.
Nobody fired.
linda moulton howe
And now it's up there.
Everything is silent.
You're in the tower.
They're in the tower.
Men are getting sick.
unidentified
What happened?
sergeant clifford stone
It hangs over there.
There's a lot of...
I know this is a unique thing.
Our radios didn't go dead.
There was a lot of static.
They did not go dead.
We could go ahead and alternate channels on our radios.
And we had, I think, four or five different pushes that we were using.
As long as we alternated between those four or five, we could go ahead and communicate.
art bell
All right, we're going to hold it right there.
Absolutely incredible.
What an absolutely incredible report.
She was.
All of that just absolutely begs an FOIA request, doesn't it?
Freedom of information.
We've got enough details to go after the precise report on what happened.
Lindemo Cow will continue with her interview in a moment.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
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We've got to get right back to the bottom.
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Tonight, between Coast to Coast AM from January 28th, 1999.
art bell
By the day now, by the day, I'm beginning to get more and more reports that are beginning to convince me that Y2K is real.
Look, if something threatens your power, Y2K, a power outage, by the way, I have all my computers fixed.
You know what it was?
It was a power outage that did it, actually, a surge.
Took a lot of Las Vegas out.
Out here, we had a big boom.
So I now have a new CD.
I have a new Ethernet card.
I've got my ISDN backup.
And I've got a nice new surge protector.
So everything's working.
Thank God.
Actually, I had my gun out.
I was going to shoot my computer earlier today.
Glad I didn't do it.
I was also going to shoot my telnet to a send router down here.
unidentified
Glad I didn't shoot that, too.
Perfect Giant Black Triangle 00:15:18
art bell
Because really, I should have gone out and plugged a power company transformer or perhaps shot myself in the foot.
That would have been appropriate since I'm the guy without the surge protector.
Well, this is about one of the most amazing, incredible reports I've ever heard in my whole life.
I mean, you're talking about a major Cold War incident.
And let's go ahead and finish the report, and then we'll chat about it.
But this is astounding.
unidentified
Linda?
linda moulton howe
Yes, I agree.
And before the break, Sergeant Stone said that as this huge, silent triangle hovered above them, their radios had static, but they could still communicate, and they called for help.
sergeant clifford stone
We went ahead and requested air support from Ramstein Air Force Base.
And they scrambled some fighters to be on the ready to intercept if it crossed over in our territory, because at this stage of the game, it could go anyplace.
And they were going to try to make an identification.
I personally talked to them.
There would be any identification made.
But they went to try to do that idea, or they scrambled the fighters to get them on station to where if it cost him, we could immediately lock on them and make a determination as to whether their intentions were friendly or hostile.
But we also could get some damage to the gun camera footage.
Some of the aircraft came very close to the photograph.
I'm sure a couple of times even crossing over into it, taking some film footage of the craft.
linda moulton howe
And it stayed stock still while the airplanes did that?
sergeant clifford stone
Stayed stock still, but after that happened, it started to move.
It dipped like this.
Like let's say, this is the front.
Here we are.
unidentified
The triangles pointing this way.
sergeant clifford stone
When it got over what it was, it turned like this very slowly and it stopped.
And when the fighters got on station, they started to take photographs.
It went ahead and turned this way and started to go off like this.
At which time the Soviet fox bands hit up on it and they gave pursuit.
And that was the end of the situation.
Everyone was degrieved as to what they saw.
They had to be throwing.
Everyone was told that it was a new Soviet fighter that the Soviets were testing a, I think they were calling them a MiG-37.
unidentified
Yeah.
sergeant clifford stone
And it was their answer to the, I take that back.
It was a version of a MiG-37 that was a Soviet fighter that they converted into a Soviet bomber.
And actually, it wasn't as big as we were seeing it.
linda moulton howe
Now, the Soviet MiGs, I think, are have covered a tremendous number of objects in the last 40, 50 years.
art bell
They seem to account for a lot.
linda moulton howe
And telling Sergeant Stone and his Army colleagues that the triangle was a Russian MiG and not as big as they had seen with their own eyes is consistent with the official policy of denial outlined in that 1954 Psalm 101 training manual.
In fact, it says in section 1, titled Security, Paragraph 12, Press Blackout, discredit witnesses.
If at all possible, witnesses will be held incommunicado until the extent of their knowledge and involvement can be determined.
Witnesses will be discouraged from talking about what they have seen, and intimidation may be necessary to ensure their cooperation.
If witnesses have already contacted the press, it will be necessary to discredit their stories.
This can best be done by the assertion that they have either misinterpreted natural events, are the victims of hysteria or hallucinations, or are the perpetrators of hoaxes.
Deceptive statements.
It may become necessary to issue false statements to preserve the security of the site.
Meteors, down satellites, weather balloons, and military aircraft are all acceptable alternatives, unquote.
Sergeant Stone's experience raises several questions.
What was the strong radiation detected by the Geiger counter that should have been lethal but wasn't?
Which U.S. government agency has the gun camera film of the enormous triangle-shaped craft while it hovered over the U.S. and East German guard towers that summer of 1989?
Was this the same type of craft that flew over Phoenix, Arizona on March 13th, 1997?
Who or what is in these triangles?
And why are they flying in Earth skies?
Sergeant Stone remembers at least three destinations for highly classified reports that he was involved in preparing about the triangle craft.
And they went to Bowling Air Force Base near Washington, D.C., Fort Belvwire, Virginia, and the National Security Agency at Fort Meade.
art bell
Linda, you know, if I saw something like that on the border with the Soviet Union in 89, and they told me that was a MiG, that would demoralize the hell out of me.
unidentified
If that's a MiG, we're in D-Doo Doo.
I mean, isn't that true?
linda moulton howe
Yes, but as he said, they all knew that what they were looking at, a thousand feet on a side, five stories high, had nothing to do with terrestrial manufacture.
And if you want to refresh your memory and go back and read the Psalm 101 training manual about the title is Extraterrestrial Craft and Entity Retrieval.
This training manual is not beating around the bush about MIGs.
This is talking about extraterrestrial craft.
And this is reprinted in Glimpses of Other Realities, Volume 2, High Strangeness.
And it's in the context of all these other military voices that I have in the book.
And it is available in most nationwide bookstores and at amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com on the internet.
And I think that the Psalm 101 training manual is extremely important to study.
I know that Stanton Friedman agrees with me and Bob Ryan and several others.
And if anyone listening has other military or intelligence information about the extraordinary triangle-type craft, I would really appreciate faxes or mail.
I'll give both tonight because I think this is very important.
These triangles are so mysterious, so strange, and seemingly so powerful.
art bell
As you know, it was my wife's and my own close-up sighting.
linda moulton howe
Well, yes, how does this one compare?
Before I give out my facts and address, how does this description compare to what you and Ramona saw?
art bell
Very favorably.
I couldn't, of course, attest to the height of the craft.
There'd be no way I could do that otherwise.
What we saw, of course, was a perfect giant black triangle that was big enough, Linda, that the only way I can describe it is when it came over our heads, which it did directly, about 150 feet, the moon went away, the stars went away, and this thing was like a dome over your head.
And then it just kept on trucking.
linda moulton howe
Did you see any lights in it, as he described, with the red or white in the center and at the vertices of the triangle?
art bell
Yes.
Actually, if I could just get you up to my website, there is a precise, it took several months to do, rendition of exactly what I saw.
And it shows you the lights and everything else.
Right.
An astounding story.
Plus, what about filing freedom of information requests based on this?
We've got enough specific information in that report to file a butte.
linda moulton howe
Yeah, I've decided to try to help him in that regard.
And another thing, as you are talking about your sighting, remember when I did those interviews back in March of 97 with eyewitnesses in Phoenix, that there was a family of five who they were driving in one direction as the large triangle came over and they started counting.
The woman had her head back looking out through the rear window and started counting and they were estimating at the 80 miles an hour they We're driving and the length of time that it took the object from the nose point to the back to go across their car, that their math figured that it was about two miles long, and that squared with the real estate couple that were up on the hill looking down over a development that they were just laying out the grids of the streets,
and they knew exactly that the grids were 1.8 miles long.
And when the huge triangle went over near their house, they said as far as they could tell, it was exactly as long as those grids in that street, which would be 1.8 miles.
This is, that's even immensely more enormous than what Clifford Stone and his military colleagues saw back in 1989 when 1,000 feet on the side may have been the most enormous thing anyone had seen back then.
art bell
Remarkable.
All right, give us your fax number so people can get in touch with you and a mailing address.
linda moulton howe
My fax number is area code 215-491-9842.
Again, that's 215-491-9842.
And my mailing address, for those of you who would prefer to write, is Linda Howe, H-O-W-E, at Post Office Box 300, Jameson, J-A-M-I-S-O-N, Pennsylvania, abbreviated PA, zip code 1-8929.
That's Post Office Box 300, Jameson, PA, 18929.
And I will look forward to any information that anyone who has had military or intelligence or any other encounters or experiences with these triangles or any information about what might be in them.
When I asked Clifford Stone if he had ever heard from anyone when he was in Germany about what might be in those triangles, he said that at some point that they were told that our government, which I'm assuming would be the MJ-12 types, knew that there were entities and that they considered them to be not hostile, but on a scientific mission.
And when I said, well, how in the world would our government know what was inside these large triangles, what its agenda was, Clifford Stone said he had no idea, but that that is what he had been told at one point, that for some reason there had been some understanding of some kind of communication.
And remember, there was this period when these large triangles were seen in various parts of Europe and later over the United States.
art bell
Belgium had a ton of them.
linda moulton howe
That's right.
They had in March, this was in the July-August timeframe of 1989.
And from 1989 to 1990, for a period of about 18 months, these kinds of triangles were especially seen around the world.
And if Clifford Stone's explanation that we somehow got some kind of information in a way that is not known, that this was a scientific mission, well, whose scientific mission?
What is it that our government knows about the intelligences that are in these various kinds of craft?
And when you go to that Psalm 101 document, and you see the drawing that is in the government's own training manual for people that would be involved in retrieval operations of what they use the term extraterrestrial craft and entities,
and you see seven, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight drawings, one of which in the lower right-hand corner is the triangle that has the light configuration, as Clifford Stone described and as you have described, plus all of these others.
And it also goes into the types, two types of entities that apparently the government has studied in some fashion from these crashes.
And we now know from these newly released documents that there appears to be a refinement of at least three, what they're calling landing zones in the first week of July of 1947 from which they got both technology and different types of bodies.
But there was nothing in any of those early documents in 4748 about these large triangles.
This seems to be something, as the Psalm 101 document says, that came later and is considered by our own investigating bodies inside the government as being a highly advanced technology.
And I think that makes it very provocative.
Is there a difference between who's in the triangles and who's in all of the circular and ovoid disks?
And what is the relationship between the two types if they are different types?
art bell
All good questions.
Linda, we're going to be doing a show together Monday, so we'll have lots of time, but I've got something I want you to work on for me.
The Associated Press headline is, Dying Blackbirds Rain Down on North Louisianatown.
Marouge, thousands of blackbirds are dying in North Louisiana.
Nobody seems to know why.
For the past several weeks, Wanda and Daniel Hudson of Morehouse Parish enjoyed watching tens of thousands of blackbirds flying over their house toward Marouge each morning.
Each afternoon, they watched them fly back.
Then Monday, the blackbirds began dropping from the sky into yards and ditches where they staggered, faltered, many making their way out to Louisiana 425.
Pluto's Planetary Status Debate 00:03:12
art bell
The dead and dying birds have been littering their yard in a five-mile stretch of nearby homes and highways ever since.
linda moulton howe
Good heavens.
Five miles of this.
art bell
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am, that five miles.
Mrs. Hudson said it's really pitiful.
They're coming onto our yard and dying.
It takes them a while to die.
It's obviously a slow, painful death.
They called the State Department of Wildlife.
Nobody seems to know why they're dying.
But Linda, it's by the thousands.
linda moulton howe
Oh, gosh.
If you'll fact that to me, yes, I'll try to have an update for Monday night, which is February 1st on coast to coast a.m. again.
And I'll also have an update with astronomers about the age of the universe, the great wall and strings of galaxies, gamma bursts, black and white holes, and why Pluto might be both a comet and a planet.
art bell
I understand they're actually trying to strip Pluto of its planetary status.
linda moulton howe
Well, Dr. Marzden at Harvard, who you will hear, wonderful, charming man, he is trying to let people know that they're not trying to strip Pluto.
They're trying to peg it with a number out there in those trans-Neptunian belt objects that are icy.
They know that they can never take away its status as the ninth planet.
That's it.
They know that that's firm.
But they also are frustrated by the fact that Pluto is not like any of the other planets in the system.
It is a very loopy orbit, appears to be more of an icy object.
And so they're trying to come up with a number that will place it in the sequence of those Neptunian objects out there, as well as forever being the ninth planet, while it may very well still be a comet.
art bell
Well, the way CNN is reporting it is that they're considering stripping it of its planetary status.
And I thought it was a little outrageous, myself.
linda moulton howe
Well, I think that Brian Morrison and other astronomers, that they got tired of all the flap over it.
And so you will hear Monday night on Coast that he is saying, no, we are really just trying to give it a social security number out there.
unidentified
And getting across the idea that it really is quite different.
art bell
You know what?
linda moulton howe
Large gassy planet.
art bell
You know what, Linda?
Our president is trying to put the social security money into the stock market.
So if it gets a social security number as a planet, it's done.
Listen, I'm going to go see you Monday.
linda moulton howe
Okay, thanks, Arch.
art bell
All right, that's Linda Molten Howe, folks.
Triangular craft.
Boy, did I see a triangular craft up close and really personal.
And once you've seen that, you are never, ever the same person again.
1999 Coast to Coast AM 00:03:02
art bell
This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
The drift back in time continues.
With Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More Somewhere in Time coming up.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 28th, 1999.
art bell
Is this good or what?
unidentified
I didn't do it.
art bell
Robert Sampler did it.
Robert, thank you.
He sent several others.
They're equally good.
And I have a mission for him as well.
This guy is talented.
Really talented.
Take it from somebody who phases, this guy knows his stuff.
Absolutely excellent.
unidentified
Well, all right.
art bell
It's going to be a special night tonight, as you know.
Let's see what's in the news first.
Whatever news there is.
Seems the president's trial is going to be recessed for a week while prosecutors and White House lawyers depose Monica and two others.
It's really all over, you know.
It really is all over.
In Colombia, the quake toll there now has hit 881.
And I'm still surprised, frankly, after seeing on CNN the kind of damage this earthquake caused that there were not tens of thousands of people killed.
Now, Mr. Greensban addressed the internet frenzy today.
As you know, internet socks have absolutely gone berserk.
I mean, they have gone through the roof.
And Ms. Greensman said something like, it's going to be investing in a hot internet stock is something like hitting a one in a million jackpot in the lottery.
This is somewhat reminiscent of the Greenspan irrational exuberance remark.
More Ancient Evidence Found 00:03:42
art bell
I'm going to have to see what happens to the Internet socks now.
Good luck.
So, where does the president want to put our money?
Well, he wants to take our social security money and, among other things, put it into the stock market where the internet stocks are.
A Danish researcher analyzing rock formations from Greenland said he has found chemical evidence that suggests the presence of life 3.7 billion years ago, about 200 million years before the earliest known fossils.
So there you have it.
They keep finding more and more, and more and more is older and older and older.
As I read to Linda Moltenhow a moment ago, this one should really cause you to sit up and take notice.
This is from the Associated Press, not the Art Bell file of weirdness, the AP's file of weirdness.
Breaking news, dying blackbirds rained down on North Louisiana town, rained down.
Thousands of blackbirds, thousands, are dying in North Louisiana.
Nobody knows why.
For the past several weeks, Wanda and Daniel Hudson of Morehouse Parish enjoyed watching tens of thousands of blackbirds flying over their house toward Merouge each morning.
Every afternoon, they watch them fly back.
Nice, right?
Then Monday, for some reason, the blackbirds began dropping from the sky into yards and ditches where they staggered, faltered, some making their way out to the highway.
The dead and dying birds have been littering their yard and, check this, a five-mile stretch of nearby homes and highways ever since.
Mrs. Hudson said, they're coming into our yard and dying.
It takes them a while to die.
It's a slow and painful death.
Department of Wildlife has no idea why this is occurring.
So I thought you should hear that.
And by the way, confirming absolutely for you now, citing the year 2000 computer problem, Prodigy Communications Corporation is telling its 208,000 subs it is going to shut down its pioneer Prodigy Classic online service.
Notified all its customers by email late Friday it could not avoid the effects of the so-called Y2K problem.
And by October, they're going to simply shut it down.
unidentified
Holy smokes.
art bell
That's absolutely astounding.
So I guess there is simply too much code for them to financially even think of tackling.
So they're going to close the entire service down.
Here's one for you.
Balls of a black-like tar substance, this is Associated Press 2, are washing up on two popular Puerto Rican tourist beaches, according to the Coast Guard.
The ball's about, what the hell's going on in our world?
Ten Signs of Football Overload 00:04:21
art bell
The balls about two to six inches wide began appearing on Alberta, Alberti, and Condado beaches in San Juan late Wednesday.
Swimmers were coming out of the water with some of the gunk on them.
That's Dave Solva from the Coast Guard.
Investigators have no idea what it is, what the substance is, or where it came from.
And they are warning beachgoers not to touch the balls.
What the hell?
On Thursday, they dug trenches in the sand to collect balls at high tide, which peaks during the mid-afternoon.
Environmentalists said the new balls should wash ashore then.
How would they know?
unidentified
What the hell?
art bell
Balls of something awful washing ashore in Puerto Rico.
That's just great.
Just great.
So, there you've got sort of a little introduction to what's going on in our world right now.
Great, huh?
unidentified
Just great.
art bell
We're about to do the Antichrist line.
We'll talk about that in a moment.
There are ten signs that somebody just sent me.
Ten signs, mind you, that you've been watching too much football.
Something hard to even contemplate, you know, since we've got the Super Bowl coming up, and since this last weekend was bereft of any football, almost causing life to know it as we know it anyway now to end.
Anyway, top ten signs: you've been watching too much football.
10. An optical exam reveals a little tiny Dan Deardorf etched into your retina.
9. Your grandmother falls down the steps and you yell, touchdown!
8. Hash marks on your butt.
7. You spend all your free time making brownies for John Madden.
6. At dinner, somebody says, pass the ham, and you hurl that mother 60 yards.
5. Your wife wins a hand of pinochle and you dump 40 gallons of Gatorade on her head.
4. While making love to your husband, you stop and call for a measurement.
3. You're hurled from your car after a high-speed collision, and your first thought is, oh boy, I'm in a tight spiral.
unidentified
2.
After sex, you spike the pillow.
art bell
And the number one sign you've been watching too much football: Dan Ruther announces a meteor is going to strike the earth, ending all life as we know it, and you murmur, please don't let it be Sunday.
I'm in such a good mood tonight, and I really am, because, of course, my ISDN line, my computer is fixed.
I got it all done today.
That remember last night I said I'm not even in a good enough mood to bring out my special whacker piece, but tonight I shall.
unidentified
Why not?
Don't wear that fat.
Whack it with fat whacker.
art bell
Thought I'd dredge it out because I am in a pretty good mood.
unidentified
It's all fixed.
All right.
art bell
All right.
Here we go.
Now, it was, I think somewhat less than a year ago, maybe around a year, when I decided on the basis of somebody who called me that I was going to open the Antichrist line.
Antichrist Claims 00:15:31
art bell
This is particularly auspicious in view of the fact that, by the way, tomorrow night, Ed Dames, SciTech Major Ed Dames, is going to be here, and Ed Dames is all by himself on a very remote part of the Hawaiian Islands, remote viewing Satan.
He's been doing that now since we last talked.
I talked to Ed's wife.
She was worried.
She said, you should call him.
I did.
He said, I've got a lot to tell you.
unidentified
He sounded affected.
art bell
Now, he may be just fine.
I don't know.
But I'll know tomorrow night.
unidentified
So will you.
art bell
You may recall in the last program, that's what he was off to do.
Anyway, recalling my program about the Antichrist and opening the Antichrist line, which I'm about to do now, I was literally forced into it, not just because of the show I had done, but because Jerry Falwell has actually come out and said the Antichrist is probably alive today.
And he went on to say as a male Jew.
Now, I don't know about the male Jew part, but is he alive and here today?
Because Falwell says yes, probably.
Because when he appears during the tribulation period, he will be a full-grown counterfeit of Christ.
Of course, he'll be Jewish, said Falwell.
Of course, he'll pretend to be Christ.
And if, in fact, the Lord is coming soon, he'll be an adult at the presentation of himself.
He must be alive somewhere today.
So we will reach out.
Last time I opened the Antichrist line, it was indescribable what happened.
I expect that to occur now, particularly with the knowledge that he may well be there.
So, I hereby reserve the first-time caller line away.
Do not call the first-time caller line unless you, that's right, you claim to be or know yourself to be or imagine yourself to be the Antichrist.
Now, I realize there are many who say, Art, there is no such thing like this person.
There is no such thing as an Antichrist.
Why do you insist on doing this baloney?
unidentified
Have mercy.
art bell
There is no such thing.
Others, of course, don't feel that way at all.
Another facts here are saying few realize how soon the Antichrist will raise himself up.
And it goes into quite a bit of detail on the Antichrist.
We had a few discussions that actually prompted this in the last couple of days with many of you.
People have been calling me and saying, there's no devil, there's no Lucifer, there's no Satan, there's no Antichrist.
unidentified
Where do you get this stuff?
There's only God, the Creator.
art bell
There's none of this negative stuff.
These people claim they're taking it out of the Bible.
Now, I'm not big on reading the Bible, but I do believe the Bible pretty well describes the other side.
I think there is an Antichrist out there, and I think that we've got the reach to find him.
unidentified
Or her.
art bell
It could be a female.
Now, the Antichrist is going to be one who fools and lies, right?
So, who's to say it couldn't be a female?
unidentified
They always say he.
art bell
Well, might even be a female.
So, anyway, normally we allow first-time callers in at area code 702-727-1222, but tonight, only those who are the Antichrist.
And as a matter of fact, I will accept Antichrist calls on any line.
We will have a general open-line session tonight.
But if you're on that line, you better be claiming to be the Antichrist.
Now, there are going to be believable Antichrists.
There are going to be unbelievable Antichrists.
There are going to be very serious people.
There are going to be some angry people.
We're going to run into just about every single variety of person you can imagine tonight, if you really want to call them people.
So, sometimes, you know, when something really serious has happening, it helps to laugh a little bit about it, and you may laugh a little bit about this, or maybe you won't.
Because maybe, as Jerry Falwell, you believe that, in fact, the Antichrist may, in fact, be alive, walking about the streets of America, Canada, who knows where, walking the streets now.
And if the return of Christ is within 10 years, then we would have to imagine the Antichrist could be in his 20s, could be in his 30s.
I don't know.
But Falwell says he's out there, and if he's out there, I'm going to try to find him.
unidentified
Or her.
art bell
So you've got it.
Open line session plus Antichrist line.
Only, don't disappoint me with this now.
If I pick up that line, you better be the Antichrist.
Area code 702-727-1222.
In the meantime, it's open lines.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Am I on the air?
art bell
You are on the air, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Well, you're going to have to yell at us a little, though.
You're not very loud.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
I just was taken aback slightly.
Yeah, I'm calling from West Virginia through WRVA in Richmond.
Yes, sir.
I've kind of got the feeling that whatever Ed Dames is going to view, and this is my personal opinion, that it's going to somehow line up with what Zacharias Sitchin claims in his books about the 12th planet and all that.
art bell
Why would Satan have anything to do with the Anunnaki and the 12th planet and all that?
unidentified
Well, I haven't read totally all of what Zacharias Sitchin says, but it's got something to do with God and Satan and the war in heaven and so on.
But I really don't think the Antichrist.
art bell
You don't think Falwell knows what he's talking about?
unidentified
Well, I come from a conservative background like he preaches, but.
art bell
Can you honestly say you have never walked down the street and found yourself walking by somebody who seemed like evil personified.
I mean, just absolutely evil?
unidentified
There are people like that.
art bell
Yeah, haven't you ever felt that?
It's like you can almost feel a little chill go down your spine when you're in their presence.
You know it.
You feel it.
unidentified
Yeah, but I think they're under the influence of evil spirits.
I don't think that they themselves.
art bell
But see, that's kind of a judgment call, though, isn't it?
unidentified
Well, it could be, or it could be kind of, you know, you see somebody and you know, you see how you get a sense of.
art bell
I'll tell you what you do, sir.
If you go up to my website and you look at the 33 evil eyes, and if you can still come back and tell me you don't think there's real evil out there, then we'll talk.
So, there you've got it laid out for you tonight, folks.
The Antichrist line and open lines throughout the night.
Tomorrow night, Major Ed Dames and the results of the remote viewing of Satan.
Better Ed than Arch.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this somewhere in Time.
Just touch a crime through windows.
You'll be wondering if I will catch secrets.
Let's be turning up again.
We breathe the time again.
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Good morning.
art bell
Is this guy talented or what?
He uses the old-fashioned method, just like I do, but he's better.
unidentified
Oh, my.
art bell
He did just the right ones, too.
Welcome, everybody.
It's Antichrist Line Nights.
Now, I'm going to say this one more time so there can be no mistake about it.
If I pick up that first-time caller line, you had better be the Antichrist or claiming to be.
Because Jerry Falwell says you're out there.
Here from, I think, New York City is our first Antichrist candidate.
Not surprised you'd be in New York City.
You probably even know Curtis Liwa.
unidentified
I listened to him very much.
art bell
I knew it.
unidentified
It figures.
I met him once in a restaurant.
art bell
That figures, too.
And it was probably a clandestine meeting of some kind.
Just chance meeting, but well, you believe yourself to be the real Antichrist?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Why?
unidentified
My philosophy, my observation of our intelligence, how we change ourselves and become machines and then even greater than machines, which I write about on the internet in the news group.
art bell
Oh, so you write about all this.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
I got stocks and stocks of this stuff.
I got articles on alternate society futures.
art bell
When did you first realize that you might be indeed the Antichrist?
unidentified
Well, I had a I kind of grew a suspicion, maybe 20 years ago because of my activities or maybe 25 years ago.
But then when I because my my I was born June 6th and I I send my mother a letter just out of curiosity.
art bell
How old are you now?
unidentified
I know about 60.
You're 60?
Yeah.
art bell
Get a little long in the tooth there, aren't you?
I mean, you've got to be careful.
If you're going to do what the Antichrist is supposed to do while here on Earth, you better make hay.
unidentified
Well, my writing follows me.
My philosophy follows me.
My observations and so on and so forth.
But just out of curiosity, I was almost afraid to send the letter, and I sent the letter to my mother, and I asked her in the letter, could you, you remember when I was born?
No.
And I was almost afraid to open the letter, hoping, you know, she'd write 9 o'clock in the morning or at midnight or something like that.
And when she said dawn, Dawn?
I don't know how broad it is, the other six.
art bell
I saw a dust to dawn.
unidentified
666.
66.
The month, the day, and the hour.
art bell
And what do you make plans?
I mean, as the Antichrist, do you know what you plan to do?
Do you have all this laid out in your mind other than what you write on the internet?
unidentified
Well, what I write on the internet will eventually replace Christianity and all the other religions philosophy.
It will.
Yeah, because my philosophy is that.
art bell
It's that powerful.
In other words, when people read it, they just take whatever faith they have and they cast it out.
unidentified
Well, the philosophy itself does nothing.
The philosophy only explains what happens, what comes.
It's like, you know, it's like prophecy.
art bell
I know, but it must cause them to change.
unidentified
She and I both together.
So nobody can really blame me for what happens.
You know, I'm only a messenger.
But because I'm a messenger and it changes Christianity, they will tag on me, you know, that I'm the Antichrist.
Because I really have no desire to be an Antichrist or just, you know, destroy the religions and so on and so forth, but there's just no way of doing it.
art bell
You have no desire to do it.
But in other words, this is your lot in life, like it or not.
unidentified
Is what?
art bell
Your lot in life.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
art bell
Like or not.
unidentified
I can't suppress this.
Like, Darwin couldn't suppress his theory either.
art bell
I understand.
All right.
Well, I thank you.
I appreciate you as a first entrant.
And I'm not surprised, number one, that you live in New York City, and number two, that you are at least a passing acquaintance of Curtis Lewis.
Not surprised at all.
In fact, I expected to hear that early on, and boom, there it is.
All right, let's go elsewhere.
East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, Eric, how's it going?
art bell
Oh, it's going all right.
unidentified
Great.
This is Judge Cal calling from New York City.
art bell
Another New York City call.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
I have a couple topics I want to touch on briefly.
First off, I was reading in the news wires that the birds died of botulism that did an autopsy, and apparently it was botulism.
art bell
Botulism, botulism.
But thousands of them?
unidentified
They're all eating the same food source.
Another thing was the Prodigy thing.
I don't know if you're aware, but a couple of years ago when AOL just took off, Prodigy just basically went in the toilet, right?
Sure.
So a company called Mexican Wireless came and bought them.
I'm a third-party contractor for Prodigy, by the way.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
So I'm familiar with their infrastructure.
art bell
You know, the whole story, it's not necessary that we understand the whole story.
I mean, the.
unidentified
Well, basically, what was going on is they liquidated about two-thirds of their staff over the past two years.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And they're going out of business, basically looking to, you know, slash and burn kind of thing.
So why not, instead of trying to save a dying business, just do an insurance claim and claim what you can?
art bell
Well, that's conjecture on your part, sir.
unidentified
Absolutely, absolutely.
But I mean, their utilities and all their stuff is totally antiquated and old because.
FEMA Warnings Manifesting 00:02:12
art bell
You have got to admit, no matter what, that at the very least, it indicates every day now we're getting another one like this.
FEMA beginning to actually warn people to start saving food and that kind of thing.
I mean, Coast Guard, not Coast Guard, National Guard units being mobilized to take care of what's going to happen.
I mean, there are a lot of hints out there that...
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
I think for the most part, the United States will get their end together, but it's going to be the other third world countries that drag the whole worldwide economy down because they're going to fail because they don't have the resources the United States does.
art bell
How does it feel to know you've got the Antichrist with you right there in New York City?
unidentified
Well, I have my doubts about that.
First off, dawn does not occur at 6 a.m.
It occurs much earlier in the summer.
art bell
It might depend.
unidentified
Well, yeah, I guess it would depend where you're at.
Offhand, do you know any exactly correct predictions of Major Ed Dames?
Because I was on his site looking through his track record.
art bell
Absolutely, I do.
Oh, you bet I do.
Yes, I do.
Listen on the radio.
I have yet to see one fail.
Now, people would say, well, what about the thing he said, the canister that was coming down over Africa?
Well, that has not yet manifested itself, or has it, depending on the headline you read.
But sure.
Listen, years ahead of the beginning of the death of frogs, Ed Dames predicted that the first sign that you would see of the coming serious changes would be the frogs.
The frogs would begin to die, he said.
And they did.
And there were many more.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
art bell
Ed Dames said many things that have already manifested themselves.
Howard's Antichrist Line 00:15:37
art bell
And also, I have any number of private communications that confirm that he has found lost or unfortunately dead children and that sort of thing.
Dated.
I've got all that, so there's a lot, sure.
Now, what's going to happen tomorrow night with regard to Satan?
I don't know.
Remote viewing Satan, I sort of urged him not to do that, but he's off and running.
On our Antichrist line, you're on the air.
Hello.
antichrist in antichrist line
Hi, how are you doing?
art bell
I'm all right.
antichrist in antichrist line
All right.
art bell
You realize what line you're on here, don't you?
antichrist in antichrist line
I realize exactly what line I'm on.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Is it you?
antichrist in antichrist line
That's me.
I just want to make sure that the fact that I've yet to enter the media has it seems strange that this will be my first media entrance.
art bell
You know what I think I want to know first of all?
antichrist in antichrist line
What do you want to know?
art bell
I want to know what you think of Jerry, the Reverend Jerry Falwell, announcing to the world that you're alive now.
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, I'm not Jewish.
art bell
So he was wrong.
unidentified
Well, obviously.
Not Jewish.
art bell
But you are the Antichrist.
antichrist in antichrist line
That is me.
art bell
Now, how did you come to know who you are?
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, it's like, how can I explain?
It's like when you're born, you don't know who you are.
I didn't know who I was until I was about three years old.
unidentified
You knew at three?
Yeah.
art bell
What tipped you off?
antichrist in antichrist line
What tipped me off?
Yes.
It's sort of like a consciousness that you just know.
It's like, I mean, how do you ride a bike, right?
art bell
Or how do you learn how to I mean, did you like break the legs of a babysitter or something early on?
antichrist in antichrist line
No, it's nothing like that.
I mean, being the Antichrist is all about making sure that people are occupied, making sure that people are distracted.
unidentified
Distracted.
art bell
I mean, it's like keeping them from consideration of sports.
antichrist in antichrist line
You've got things at home that you've got things at home that I know occupy your mind right now.
It's like a Greenpeace person.
For example, let's take someone that's out there saving the whales or saving the forest or worrying about nuclear disaster or worrying about this or worrying about that.
People are constantly worried about something and they want to participate.
And that's exactly where they go wrong is while they're out saving the whale, they've got a baby crying at home or their aunt slipped on the steps and fell downstairs and they don't realize that paying attention to what's directly around you.
art bell
So in other words, then you, the Antichrist, have actually been in the process of taking normal people who should be paying attention to normal things and turn them into tree huggers.
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, not tree huggers.
It's not tree huggers.
It's like the most important thing in your life right now, Art, is your radio show.
And you spend more time on your radio show than you spend time in your actual life.
art bell
I want to know right now whether you've had anything to do with my recent computer problems, severe computer problems.
antichrist in antichrist line
Your recent computer problems.
Well, again, the computers are just another aspect of occupation.
They are.
The housewife, for example, spent as much time doing housework as she did 100 years ago.
Nothing has changed.
It's all the same.
The only thing that has changed is the amount of time that people spend thinking about things that have absolutely nothing to do with nothing.
And that's it.
art bell
That occupies your mission in life.
That's your mission in life.
In other words, these eventually will be your subjects.
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, no, it's not subjects.
I have no ability to follow for people to follow me.
People will just eventually fall apart.
I heard a couple nights on your show, some lady called in and said people are walking around like zombies.
art bell
That's right.
antichrist in antichrist line
And that's reality for him.
I mean, art is so easy for, I mean, another guy called in the other night and talking to America, right?
art bell
It's obvious.
It's obvious to me the Antichrist listens to my program.
antichrist in antichrist line
Oh, the Antichrist listens to all programs at the same time.
art bell
Really?
Even like Jim Bohannon?
You name it Don Imas?
unidentified
You name it.
art bell
Howard Stern.
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, Howard Stern is sort of annoying.
unidentified
Even the Antichrist, don't you think so?
art bell
Oh, Howard's all right.
antichrist in antichrist line
I mean, you know, you've got it.
art bell
You got his small doses.
antichrist in antichrist line
You know, it's scary.
art bell
It's tough.
I'm going to ask you, like the last call.
You don't know Curtis Lewis, do you?
unidentified
Pardon me?
art bell
Never mind.
unidentified
Anyway, let's get back to what's important.
art bell
When will things begin to really take off in terms of the unfolding of what lies directly ahead?
antichrist in antichrist line
Here's what's going to happen, okay?
art bell
Okay.
antichrist in antichrist line
In about a year's time, okay, and it's actually after the millennium, I'd say March, what's going to happen is there's going to be a huge wall built.
It's going to be built something like the Great Wall of China.
It's going to be built by people that are excited about building it.
They're going to be very interested in building it.
It's going to become something very superficial, yet at the same time extremely important to people.
unidentified
It's going to be like, how can I explain?
art bell
Can you explain what the purpose of the wall will be?
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, it's going to hold everyone in the world.
art bell
You mean like a gigantic concentration camp?
Exactly.
antichrist in antichrist line
But it's not a concentration camp.
art bell
Oh, my.
antichrist in antichrist line
Now, this is the weird part, is that everyone's going to be drugged, okay?
They're going to be...
art bell
So how will that be substantially different than the situation we have now?
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, the difference, I mean, how will it be substantially different?
Imagine right now, if you were teleported to the insides of a wall where you couldn't stand more than three feet from one person, okay?
Imagine yourself being, or not even three feet, one feet, one foot, okay?
art bell
In other words, no elbow room whatsoever.
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, yeah, you're just standing there, right?
art bell
Oh, my God.
antichrist in antichrist line
Okay, now you wake up.
art bell
That'd be hell.
antichrist in antichrist line
You wake up and you look around, and there's six billion people standing one foot from each other.
art bell
That's hell.
antichrist in antichrist line
No, but it's not hell because the person that's talking to you is talking in a reasonable manner.
art bell
I don't care.
If there's six billion of them and they're not more than a foot apart, that's hell.
antichrist in antichrist line
No, but it's not hell.
I mean, have you ever been in a shopping mall?
art bell
Yes.
And it's slightly hellish every time I go.
antichrist in antichrist line
It's slightly hellish, but your mind can handle it.
art bell
I don't like that many people around at any given time.
antichrist in antichrist line
But your mind can handle it.
you're going to be able to handle it.
art bell
Well, I intend, really?
Okay.
antichrist in antichrist line
Okay.
art bell
So I'll handle it.
So you'll wall me in and I'll thank you.
antichrist in antichrist line
Well, you'll not thank me.
You'll just be standing there, sort of, you'll be definitely freaked out, but your mind will be able to handle it.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
art bell
I do.
I'll remain sane, you're saying.
antichrist in antichrist line
Yeah, well, I mean, you will.
You know, you've got enough intelligence in you to remain sane at that point.
I'm not saying that things wouldn't be surreal.
I'm not saying things wouldn't be crazy at that point.
I'm not saying any of that.
What I'm saying is that you'd be able to maintain some sort of slight composure because it would be so freaky waking up from this, okay?
art bell
Yes, and then.
antichrist in antichrist line
Now, at this point, and this is the part I can't tell you, is you're going to be asked one question.
Okay.
art bell
Question.
One question.
antichrist in antichrist line
One question.
art bell
And how I answer that depends on.
antichrist in antichrist line
That's it.
art bell
Oh, my God.
antichrist in antichrist line
And I'll tell you where the wall will be, too.
art bell
Where?
antichrist in antichrist line
It will be.
Well, the end of the wall will be less than 100 kilometers from you.
art bell
From where I am now?
antichrist in antichrist line
Yes.
art bell
All right.
Well, you certainly have started me out well on my Antichrist line, and I guess you've told me basically what you're able to tell me, so I'll say thank you.
unidentified
I think one question.
What would be the one question that would decide my fate?
I might rather make a deal.
The trip back in time continues.
With Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in time.
I came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
And the devil jumped up on a hatred gun and said, Boy, let me tell you why.
I guess you didn't know it, but I am a fiddle player, too.
And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his view.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 28th, 1999.
art bell
Like an angel.
I'm told that that's exactly how the Antichrist will come.
Seeming just like an angel in every way, except, you know, you're the devil understood.
So, anyway, we've got a line laid back for the apparently large group out there who feel they are the Antichrist.
And there are quite a few.
So we'll get back to that and open lines all night long in a moment.
Tomorrow night, Ed Dames, as I told you, and I really think you ought not miss Tomorrow Night's show.
Let me tell you why.
When I talked to Ed, he sounded not exactly like Ed.
I mean, I sort of formed a mental picture of Ed with about five days' growth of beard on and kind of ragged and just not himself.
Ed, you usually can listen to him, you can see him, he's impeccably dressed, he speaks elegantly, and he sounded like the life had been sucked right out of him.
Well, tomorrow night, we're going to find out what actually happened.
The Reverend Falwell says of the Antichrist, this is a quote, quote, If he's going to be the counterfeit of God, he has to be Jewish, Falwell said.
Continuing the quote: The only thing we know is he must be male and Jewish.
unidentified
End quote.
art bell
And on the Antichrist line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Well, first of all, Arthur, I'd like to make a distinction.
You mentioned that there are many, and yes, that's true.
There are many on your lines tonight who think that they are.
But I also would like to add that there are supposedly, you know, many who are the true thing, too.
So, as Nostradamus predicted, Adolf Hitler has been one.
And Hitler believed in mysticism and believed in that prediction so much that before he marched on France, he dropped pamphlets over that country with Nostradamus' predictions.
art bell
Well, despite my nervous little chuckles and funmaking of this whole thing, the fact of the matter is, my view is not shared by many.
My view is that if there is God, if there is the Creator, if there is the God of the Bible, then there is evil as well as a force.
And is that what you are?
unidentified
Am I evil?
Yes.
art bell
As a force?
unidentified
Well, first of all, let me say that I don't believe evil exists.
I believe that what we're talking about tonight, the supposed Antichrist, this beast has the potential to be evil, but an earthly evil.
There is only earthly evil.
There's no spiritual evil.
art bell
But you talk about it as though it's in the third person.
I asked you, are you an Antichrist?
Are there many?
unidentified
There are many.
And if you listen to the Bible, it says that there will be a war.
After a few of them supposedly surface, there will be a war where they fight each other.
Now, this is going to be a unique take on this, Arthur, because as you probably know, or maybe you don't know, but I'd like to inform you that this isn't a choice that they were given, or at least in my particular case.
I mean, I was never asked that.
You know, do you want to do this?
I was only, I believe, and this is my own personal belief that I was given a vision that recently came to fruition, that I believe that I have that potential, you see.
And even Mastradamus has said that these things are all subject to change.
So I know what I was capable of doing, but I'm going to pull myself out of it because of the just huge ramifications of what could possibly happen.
Can You Read My Mind? 00:03:51
art bell
The real Antichrist would not pull himself out of it.
The real Antichrist would have a mission.
unidentified
Let me just prove a small parlor game to you right now just to kind of let me humor me.
Yes.
This or these so-called people of I don't even like using that term, believe it or not, but these people of which we speak are not superhuman.
They are mortal human beings.
They only have superior intuitive capabilities, and I'll prove that to you now.
I'm going to ask you a question, Arthur, and you're going to be able to answer it for me.
How old am I, Arthur?
art bell
37.
unidentified
Close.
Very close.
I'm 36.
What made you say 37?
I'm very taken back by that.
Are you really?
art bell
Well, what do you mean?
You said the Antichrist will be someone with special intuitive powers.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
So what do you expect?
unidentified
Okay.
Also, I'd just like to say that I am in the medium.
art bell
I think I'm scaring my caller more than my caller is scaring me.
unidentified
Well, you're just playing around with me.
You're being a little butthead is what you're being, Arthur.
art bell
Yeah, but the Antichrist, you see, he'd be a butthey.
greg rothman
Yes, he would, and that's exactly where I'm coming from, believe it or not.
unidentified
I'm an easygoing, you know, like I said, Arthur, I'm making inroads into the media.
I just this year, and wouldn't you imagine it would be this year that I have made a national television debut?
You have, huh?
art bell
You have?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
You have?
unidentified
Yes, I was on national television within the last few weeks.
art bell
Well, now that does figure the Antichrist would definitely be on TV.
greg rothman
And, okay, and I've also had a radio show.
art bell
Figures.
unidentified
And I will be continuing to go into that.
And I'm also an entertainer of sorts.
art bell
Of course you are.
unidentified
And here's a couple things.
Arthur, I believe that this person had the ability to cause massive destruction to the world, basically.
And I feel that at one point in my life I was capable of that.
But now I know I couldn't.
I couldn't hurt innocent people.
art bell
Not even a fly, huh?
unidentified
Well, I could do a fly.
art bell
You could do a fly.
unidentified
I don't like insects.
art bell
All right, Antichrist.
Goodbye.
I don't know what to make of you.
I don't think this is one of those things where you have like a phase that you go through, an Antichrist phase.
I don't think that's the way it works.
Now, I'm not an expert on the Antichrist, but I don't think that's the way it works.
It's like you have a phase, and you're capable of perhaps being the Antichrist and doing tremendous evil like Hitler, and then you get out of that phase, and you're okay again.
I don't know if I buy that.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, this is Dustin from Public Technology.
Yes.
And one thing, if you could, when that Danes comes on, maybe ask him.
Is there any way, you know, if he's has he done the God thing?
Has he checked in on God?
art bell
We've already talked about that.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
He viewed the Christ figure.
He viewed Christ.
unidentified
Really?
art bell
Remote view.
unidentified
Really?
art bell
You've got to listen more.
So the answer is yes, he's done the God thing.
It's not that he's doing now.
On my international line, you're on the air.
Gods and Citizenship 00:12:13
unidentified
Hello.
Hi there, Art.
This is Cal.
I'm calling in from Winnipeg, Manitoba.
art bell
Winnipeg, Manitoba.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
I have a couple comments.
The first is an excellent guest on Tuesday night, Pat Moody.
Oh, yes.
He's quite an inspiration.
A couple of things you may not know about him.
He has a grade six education, and he is legally blind, which makes his accomplishments all the more.
art bell
That's absolutely astounding.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
That is astounding.
And he's legally blind on top of all that.
Oh, my.
All right.
Anything else?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
I have a slant on the Y2K theory.
art bell
And it is?
unidentified
Well, there's an author, John Willey.
He has the view that within the universe there's two opposing forces, organic consciousness and solid state.
An analogy would be we're organic and computers are solid state.
Now, computers will eventually evolve, and in order to survive, if they have a survival mechanism, they'll have to push things out of the way, such as people.
Yep, people, salt, water.
That bad correct.
That's right.
art bell
Well, that sounds correct.
I mean, computers would not like saltwater.
Now, that's interesting.
To consider what a computer that has acquired intelligence, self-awareness, consciousness, what it would do to protect its continued existence.
One of the things that would get in the way of a computer of that sort would be a human being who could go over to the wall and pull the plug.
So human beings would definitely be in the way.
Saltwater, secondary, but still a problem.
On my Antichrist line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Art.
First-time listener, really, my brother.
art bell
No, no, no.
This line is only for people who believe they are the Antichrist.
unidentified
Oh, no, that's definitely not me.
No?
No way.
art bell
And then you better get off this line before you get tied in with a group of people you don't want to be tied in with.
unidentified
No way.
Bye.
art bell
Bye.
You don't want to get on that line tonight if it's not you, you know, Association.
unidentified
Greetings.
art bell
On my Antichrist line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Well, greetings.
My name is Mike.
art bell
Yes, Mike.
unidentified
I am an Antichrist.
I'm not the one, but I know him.
art bell
Oh, you do?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
His name is Euro Citizenship.
Is he Jewish?
unidentified
He's an Ashkenazi Jew.
art bell
Is he now?
unidentified
Yeah, he's black.
You wouldn't expect it.
He lives in France right now.
I'm a Satanist, so I prove him.
art bell
You're a Satanist.
I am.
Actually, serve hail Satan the whole trip?
unidentified
I hope so, yeah.
Otherwise, I'm doing this for nothing.
I hope there's a payoff.
art bell
Let me hear you say it.
I want to hear you say it.
unidentified
What's that?
Hail Satan?
Yep.
Hail Satan.
Hail me.
Hail you.
Hail's going to hit you in the cornfields and all that.
art bell
What the hail?
unidentified
Yeah, what the hell?
Yeah.
He has dual citizenship.
art bell
Now, I want to be careful here.
You know, I don't know that I want to give his name, so let's not do that.
unidentified
Well, in Jewish, it's Joshua.
It's not.
art bell
Is Jerry Falwell right?
Is he alive now?
unidentified
I hope so.
He's in France right now.
He works for the UN, but he's in France right now.
art bell
When did you last see him?
unidentified
Oh, three and a half months ago, I think.
art bell
Three and a half months ago.
unidentified
He thinks I'm a donkey hole in the ground.
I don't know if I can say the real word on the air.
art bell
No, please don't.
unidentified
Yeah, so, but I like him.
He's a nice guy.
He doesn't know who he is yet.
That's the signal thing of the Antichrist.
art bell
I'm almost at this point more interested in why you think why you think.
I'm sorry.
I would offend you.
Why you would worship the devil?
unidentified
Well, I don't worship the devil.
I kind of work for him.
I'm in his advertising department.
You're in his department.
I really do have one of the ball caps with the word Satan on the top.
art bell
Oh, no, I believe you.
unidentified
But you called, on your radio program, you said you wanted to know about him, so I figured I'd call and say hi.
So in his own language, his name is sort of like I am the one that is, or God is here.
How do you do?
It doesn't translate well.
It's an African language.
It's an obscure African dialect.
But he has dual citizenship.
art bell
Well, you obviously, you think a lot of him, but he doesn't think a lot of you.
Why is that?
unidentified
I couldn't tell you exactly.
I think I'm a pretty good guy.
So, hey, all I know is that he's going to be able to stand up and go, hey, guys, look, I've got an answer for you.
And it's going to be a good answer.
It's going to be a smart, sensible answer.
art bell
It's going to seem logical.
unidentified
It's going to seem logical.
For instance, one world government, well, when you have a whole bunch of people shooting each other, and the only reason they're shooting each other is because they don't belong to the same group, hey, put them in the same group.
They won't shoot each other.
Duh.
Makes sense to me.
art bell
Could have been a blonde joke.
Could have been a blonde joke.
other words eliminate all the countries all the borders all the nationalities all the other religious differences and nobody's going to hurt anybody right if it's like the different which now i thought clinton was going to be any credit for a while but he's just he didn't he's too stupid I'm sorry.
unidentified
Now, Falwell, was that Falwell his name?
art bell
Jerry Falwell.
Jerry Falwell said the Antichrist is alive now.
unidentified
Okay.
Now, if Falwell walked up to the Antichrist, he wouldn't know him.
It's the difference between that stuff and Shinoa.
He wouldn't know him if he bit him.
So, by the way, the Antichrist's actual name is the pseudo-Christ.
art bell
Why?
unidentified
The Antichrist.
art bell
Well, okay, fine.
Whatever.
I mean, semantics.
But, again, I want to know, given a choice, given the knowledge that there is a Creator, a God, and there is an equal and maybe not equal, but opposite force, why you choose.
unidentified
It's not opposite, complementary.
art bell
There is, for instance, what I want to know is why you choose to work for the complementary side.
unidentified
We have man and woman complementary.
We have God and the God sits there.
God is the pattern.
God is the picture.
God is the blueprint.
Satan is the thing that builds the reality out of the blueprint.
art bell
So you choose to be on the side of reality.
unidentified
The action, the activity, the movement.
Yeah.
Hey, I like having fun.
I don't want to sit here sucking eggs for the rest of the day.
art bell
And so after you have done his work and your life, mortal, is ending.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
And you're moving on toward your reward.
What do you expect you'll be occupying your time with?
unidentified
Reward?
Shma reward.
What is this word reward?
Why do people think they're going to get a reward?
art bell
I didn't say you'll get a reward.
That's metaphorical.
unidentified
Most Christians think we're going to get a reward or a punishment.
art bell
That was metaphorical.
When I said reward, I meant to when you move on to whatever afterlife you're going to, in view of what you worship now, what do you think you're going to be doing?
unidentified
Well, probably I'll be picking daisy.
I'll probably be picking weeds out in the North 40 of the celestial afterlife.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But, you know, right now, in the here and now, I'm pretty sure that I'm on the right path.
art bell
I understand.
unidentified
Well, lots of rock to you.
art bell
On the right path, doing his work.
Not him, but him.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Now used to the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Mr. Bell.
art bell
That would be me.
unidentified
Yeah, I've tried to get through it to you quite a few times, but never, the first time I ever got it, actually got through.
I've heard you have people, well, like tonight you have your Antichrist line.
Yeah.
And you've had on people who are Wiccans and things like that.
Have you ever considered putting on anybody that follows the Norse gods?
art bell
Is that you?
unidentified
Well, yeah, I do, yes.
art bell
What gods?
unidentified
The Norse.
Odin and Freya and Frere and Thor and Neoder.
Oh, sure.
A few, yeah.
art bell
So do you.
Wouldn't they be considered false idols?
unidentified
That is, if you.
art bell
False idol thing, you remember that?
unidentified
That is, if you believe the Christian vernacular, yeah.
But then I believe that.
art bell
You think the Christians are full of it?
And that the real creation force, the real creators, the real power are the mythical figures like Thor.
Of course, I'm sure you would argue with the word mythical.
unidentified
God argued with mythical.
But basically, yes.
art bell
How do you address them?
Do you, in effect, pray to them as the Christians pray to their God?
unidentified
No, I don't.
I really don't cower down to them or anything.
I mean, I hear the music now, so I guess we have to get off the line, but I don't know if we've ever considered trying to get hold of anybody that...
art bell
I have somebody right now.
The first and only person who's ever said that he worships those gods.
That's you.
Do you do any ceremonies or anything like that?
unidentified
Yes, I do.
Yeah.
art bell
I sort of thought so.
All right.
unidentified
It's not anything weird or bizarre.
It's just.
art bell
Sounds pretty weird and bizarre to me, but that's just me.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Thank you very much for the call.
Those gods.
Remember Thor?
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast A.M.
unidentified
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast A.M. More Somewhere in Time coming up.
Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Toast AM from January 28th, 1999.
art bell
And don't forget, if you are the Antichrist, and even if you're outside the USA, wherever you may be in the world, you can reach us toll-free.
We wouldn't want to impose a charge on the Antichrist, so we have a toll-free line for you.
Simply get hold of the ATNT operator.
You know all about ATT, right?
Because you're you.
Antichrist Line Confessions 00:15:15
art bell
And ask her to call 800-893-0903.
That's 800-893-09-03.
In a moment, we'll get back to whatever it is we're doing.
unidentified
Here we go again.
On the Antichrist line, you're on the air.
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
art bell
We've got that out of the way.
unidentified
How are you?
art bell
I'm all right.
unidentified
How are you?
art bell
How am I, really?
unidentified
Really?
A little pain in my left knee here and my arm.
I don't know.
art bell
It's like arthritis.
It's a humidity.
Since you ask.
I can barely hear you there, Mr. Antichrist.
You're going to have to speak up.
Project.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
That's better.
unidentified
I am here.
We are here.
art bell
We.
unidentified
The world is here.
art bell
We.
You mean there are many?
unidentified
We.
art bell
Many like you?
unidentified
I don't know.
I am only that of myself.
That is all that I know.
art bell
And so how do you know who the hell you are then?
Heck, you are.
unidentified
Oh, I know who I am.
How?
How do I know?
art bell
How do you know?
unidentified
Oh, I've cried for hours and days and months and years.
art bell
Cried?
unidentified
I've cried.
I've poured out tears.
art bell
You're sad because of who you are.
unidentified
I am not.
art bell
You don't want to be who you are, is that right?
unidentified
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm very content that I am, that I am.
art bell
That you are, that you are.
Well, you've got your radio.
Even Antichrist with the radios on don't get to stay on the air.
There's a lesson in that.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
dr ann blake tracy
It is a treat to finally reach you.
art bell
Yes, you have.
Where are you?
dr ann blake tracy
I am in Tennessee, calling from WTN 99.7 out of Nashville.
art bell
Nobody knows it, but I was about a month ago.
I was in Nashville.
I snuck in and snuck out.
unidentified
I don't see how you did it.
I did it.
Well, you are very, very lucky then.
You've been mobbed by the people here.
We listen all the time.
art bell
I know.
I disguised myself.
unidentified
Oh, well, very good for you.
dr ann blake tracy
I was in one of your chat rooms, or one of the chat rooms titled with your name earlier this evening.
art bell
A chat room that carries my name?
unidentified
Oh, there's, let's see, I think there were seven of them.
art bell
Seven chapters.
dr ann blake tracy
On the IRC channel?
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Well, anyway, couldn't find a decent conversation there.
art bell
Those IRC people are pretty weird.
sergeant clifford stone
Yes, they are.
unidentified
Well, I did.
I asked a question, though, because I was trying to stimulate some minds, which maybe I did, maybe I didn't.
art bell
What did you ask?
unidentified
I asked, what do you think the Antichrist is?
A person?
An energy?
An entity?
Or a concept?
art bell
You went into a chat room to ask that question?
unidentified
Into an Art Bell chat room to ask that question because that's what was coming up.
art bell
Yes, I see.
So let's hear it.
What kind of feedback did you get?
dr ann blake tracy
Well, one person said it was a person.
unidentified
One person said it was a concept.
One said an energy.
Two said a myth.
One said an entity.
One said antimatter.
art bell
I think it's a boss I used to have.
unidentified
One said that too.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
I just didn't write that down.
Maybe that was you that said that.
Anyway, one said it was advertising, and the last person said it was Visa.
Visa?
Visa.
art bell
You mean like Visa and MasterCard?
unidentified
Yeah, like Visa and MasterCard.
art bell
Well, if Visa, then how come not MasterCard?
unidentified
I don't know.
art bell
What about Discover?
I mean, Discovery.
unidentified
I know American Express.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
They left all the even the Sears of the Pennies card.
art bell
You mean American Express is the one that tells you don't leave home without it.
Like, you know, what can happen?
unidentified
Well, you could meet the Antichrist on the road and have the wrong card.
art bell
So why Visa?
unidentified
I don't know.
dr ann blake tracy
Well, one guy did say that it was Ed who lives in a jar on the city.
art bell
Because you can buy lager beer in hell, but not the MasterCard.
unidentified
Good job.
I had a Visa.
vicki lyons
So I thought that was quite interesting.
unidentified
We love your show.
We listen to you all the time.
vicki lyons
And I'm Emily, so hope to talk to you again.
unidentified
I'll get off the phone and let somebody else.
art bell
Thank you, Emily.
unidentified
Okay, night.
art bell
Take care.
On my Antichrist line, you are up next.
Batter up.
Turn your radio down, Antichrist.
unidentified
Oh, this is the Antichrist line.
art bell
Yes, you mean you're not an Antichrist?
unidentified
Hello, but I can tell you who it is.
art bell
Well, forget it.
You know what?
You're even being on this line right now endangers you in every way you can imagine.
If I were you, I would hang up forthwith.
This is for Antichrist only.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
All righty.
Yeah, good.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
unidentified
This is Art Bell.
Yes, it is.
Well, I've been trying to get a hold of you for a while.
I would like to tell you that all the individuals out there are just followers.
I am the real McCoy.
art bell
You are?
And you're on my East of the Rockies line.
unidentified
I don't want to disclose my location.
That's why.
art bell
I'm excited, all right.
I can tell already you're from somewhere in the Mid-South.
unidentified
I will put it this way.
I'm the 32nd parallel of the Middle East.
But I am in the U.S.
That is my destination.
art bell
And your mission, no doubt?
unidentified
My mission is to destroy individuals who consider themselves Christians.
art bell
And have you been doing that?
unidentified
Sir.
art bell
Have you been doing that?
unidentified
I'm an individual who is probably an eccentric individual is different, but I have a power of faith and knowledge in the paranormal for many years.
Many people who don't have the faith cannot consider themselves to be Christians.
art bell
You know, it does sound to me like you're somewhere in the Bible Belt.
Now, can that be an altogether safe place for somebody like yourself?
unidentified
You're probably right.
I've mingled with many Baptist Christians, and I find they're shallow in their beliefs.
Of course, I'm an individual.
I will say that I'm the only one that wears the new cross.
art bell
The new cross.
And the new cross is what?
unidentified
The new cross is a different cross from Christianity.
art bell
Describe it to me.
unidentified
I don't want to give it away, but it is a figure which has a double leg.
art bell
Say that again, please.
It's a figure that works.
unidentified
It's a symbol that has a double leg.
art bell
A double leg.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
And I must say that I won't disclose the numbers of the 666, but the first six is to empower all men above the five senses of knowledge to the sixth sense.
Yeah.
art bell
And what will you ultimately do?
unidentified
Ultimately, I want to raise all men to purify their souls to a higher gesture of peace and unity to unite all men and rid them of their negativity and self-centeredness.
art bell
Yes, we've been told.
We've been told, actually, that the Antichrist would say stuff just like this.
unidentified
Well, sir, I've got to say this.
That I was, my destiny goes way back at birth, when I was born there on this earth.
art bell
First of all, I don't like the Antichrist calling me, sir.
unidentified
What would you like to be called?
art bell
I don't care, but don't call me sir.
I'm not any superior of the Antichrists.
unidentified
Okay, I'll call you Mr. Bell.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
But going back to my early birth, I was born here and had the knowledge through my soul to know that this was an evil, self-centered place.
art bell
Well, then I guess you just fit right in.
unidentified
And so, well, I never fit in, sir.
Excuse me, Mr. Bell, because I found out Christians were very, very evil in their ways.
You know, basically all over the world, including the U.S. You know, you're really right about that.
art bell
There's a lot of evil Christians.
unidentified
Well, there's like, you know.
art bell
I mean, if you look across America today, basically Christian, more than not, there's a lot of evil.
So there's got to be a lot of evil Christians.
unidentified
Well, it kind of goes with the mark of the beast, the beast and the human, entwined in their brain.
art bell
In their buying?
unidentified
Sir?
art bell
You said they're buying, right?
unidentified
No, entwined into their brain.
art bell
You mean, is that southern slang for being, or are you talking about buying?
unidentified
It's binded into their brain.
art bell
Oh, you might have.
unidentified
Bound.
Bound.
There you go.
More or less like you have the inner brain that you don't connect or disconnect with, and then there's the outer brain that most humans can't tap into.
art bell
Well, when you approach these Christians to strip their faith, don't they get angry?
unidentified
Oh, sure they do.
Sure they do.
But I just listen to them when I go into their churches and just listen how ignorant they are.
I had one Christian.
He was poking tongue at me.
And, of course, they all had this egotistic way of themselves.
art bell
You know, you sound a little like Merle Haggard.
unidentified
Merle Haggard.
art bell
No, huh?
All right, well, I appreciate your call.
There's another candidate.
You all got to have to make up your own minds about what we've got here.
Almost a full moon, by the way.
On my Antichrist line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Good evening.
art bell
Good evening.
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
It's off, Art.
art bell
That's good.
unidentified
So how are you this evening?
art bell
Well, I'm still deciding.
Are you the Antichrist?
unidentified
Oh, yes, I'm the Antichrist.
art bell
Oh, yes, you are, huh?
How do you know that, to be sure?
unidentified
How do I know this?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I know this from many factors that have happened to me during my life.
art bell
Like what?
unidentified
I was born 6, 1362.
I was 13 on Friday the 13th.
In my early childhood, I was burdened with horrible nightmares of the earth being consumed by fire and by evil.
Many factors contributed to this evil.
Our mass communication systems, governments, and the decadent heart of man.
art bell
The decadent heart of man.
Something you no doubt encourage.
unidentified
Most definitely.
During this time, in my development, I resisted going down many alternate paths.
art bell
Are you afraid of Jerry Falwell?
unidentified
Jerry Faldwell is a pawn in the grand scheme.
art bell
Yeah, well then how come he knew you were already alive?
unidentified
Jerry Faldwell will soon understand why he exists.
art bell
Now there's an interesting statement.
Jerry Falwell will soon understand why he exists.
unidentified
Why don't you clue us in?
Jerry Faldwell exists to give the world an outlet to try to understand.
art bell
You just called him Faldwell.
Was that a little slip there?
unidentified
Anyway.
I'm sorry, I did call him Faldwell.
And the bottom line is, is that he is paving the way for the insidious usurp of power that will take place attains his true and final resting place, which is the throne of the earth.
art bell
So the beast will take his place on the throne, and Jerry Falwell will have something to do with that, you're saying?
unidentified
Because the beast will prove his inadequacies as a man of God, and many will come then to the true religion.
The religion that will be given to the earth.
And that is, as you know, in the Old Testament in Hebrew law, many things were changed when Jesus Christ came onto the earth.
And that's why he was crucified because of the confusion of the Jewish faith in regards to his message.
art bell
Are you a Jew?
unidentified
The new message that will be given to the earth will also be a deviation.
But the excuse that will be given will be that the end times need desperate measures, such as the commandments will be changed from 10 to 9.
art bell
There is going to be a commandment actually rescinded?
Now, is this going to be something the president is going to sign, a directive, or what?
unidentified
May I explain?
art bell
Yes, please.
unidentified
This has nothing to do with worldly government.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
This is going to be a religion.
art bell
There are a lot of people out there who think that our president might rescind one of the commandments or possibly already has in secret.
unidentified
The U.S. government and the governments of the world have paved the way for ultimate evil for many centuries.
The advancement of mass communication.
art bell
You're saying the United States government, which is thought worldwide to be the leader in morality, ethics, constitutional principles, human rights, that government, you're talking about our government is leading the way with evil in what way?
World Crying Out For Answers 00:03:36
unidentified
Art, you've answered your own question on many shows and over many nights.
You know what I mean?
art bell
Don't throw my own shows up in my face.
You're throwing my shows in my face.
unidentified
And you know that the ultimate goal for the United States is not for the welfare of mankind.
And I take you back to your asking me about the doctrine.
This will happen because the world is crying out for answers now.
As you know, there is a massive need of the human being to find the true religion.
The Christian coalition, the Catholic Church, many other denominations around the world are seeking for the answers of the end time.
The scare of the millennium approaches.
People want to believe that Christ is coming again.
That will be paved by world chaos that is being fomented by the governments of the world.
art bell
All right, I think I've got it.
Thank you.
I'm pretty serious.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, Art.
art bell
Hello there.
unidentified
I know that I'm not on the Antichrist line.
I have an insight into who the Antichrist is, though.
art bell
Well, all right.
Well, you're just on a normal line, so don't name anybody that's going to get me in trouble.
unidentified
No, there's no name.
I believe it'll be the first artificial intelligence.
art bell
You mean the first computer that says howdy?
Yes, that would be.
I feel fine.
How are you?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
And it'll be a computer-generated vision or image.
No one will realize he's not real.
And naturally, he'll solve a lot of immense problems.
art bell
Well, you know, I've got it all worked out.
You may be exactly right.
I mean, I have actually considered what you were saying.
The Antichrist will be a computer.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
But, you know, we've got the edge.
You know why?
unidentified
We can pull the flood?
art bell
No.
Power spikes.
Power spikes.
unidentified
Your own power spikes.
art bell
Take them right out.
unidentified
Yeah, but look, Art.
It all ties into the WWW equals 666.
art bell
You know, that's right, the Internet.
No, that's what people say.
unidentified
It's true.
It's what they say.
Hey, before I leave you, Art, think about having an Anunnaki line sometime.
art bell
An Anunnaki line.
Right.
But how could we do that?
Because if what Zachariah Sitchin and others say is true, we're all descendants of the Anunnaki.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
Now, are you referring to just the Anunnaki that the pure Anunnaki that are here observing us now?
unidentified
Exactly, exactly.
art bell
Perhaps shaping the direction that we're going in?
unidentified
Exactly.
Or they'd have to call long distance, way long distance.
Consider the Source 00:12:18
art bell
Well, if they're here shaping what's going on, then how come things are so screwed up?
unidentified
Well, consider the source is all I could say.
art bell
Consider the source?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
These people are trying to put gold in their atmosphere to keep their planet from freezing.
art bell
So Zachariah says, yes.
unidentified
Well, hey, I haven't talked to you in a while.
It's nice talking to you.
Art, have a good evening.
art bell
You too, sir.
unidentified
Okay, bye-bye.
art bell
Should we do that sometime?
Should we have an Anunnaki line?
A lot of people think they're the ones that put us into slavery, you know.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 28th, 1999.
There ain't no danger we can go tomorrow.
Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
art bell
By the way, with regard to Millennium, my appearance on Millennium, I did hear a pretty positive thing.
Millennium, in the last episode, was up a full SharePoint.
Yeah, that's right.
I get inside info.
Up a full SharePoint.
unidentified
Hmm.
art bell
Get a pen.
Get some paper.
Because I don't know about you, but I'm listening very carefully to all this Y2K stuff.
This is very serious for a moment here.
I really have been listening and reading and monitoring.
Prodigy's service is going off because of Y2K.
They can't even afford to fix it, so they're actually going to just drop a part of the service.
I'm telling you, I'm beginning to get convinced that there is going to be disruption.
I don't know how much yet.
I really don't.
But I'm.
How many of you are monitoring the National Guard preparations that are going on in various states more and more every day?
You hear about more and more every day.
Paul Cortland, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, how are you doing, Ark?
art bell
I'm fine.
unidentified
My name is Ethan.
I'm calling from Austin, Texas.
art bell
Austin, yes, Ethan.
unidentified
Yeah, and we really enjoy your show out here.
My wife and I like to listen to you at night.
Just wanted to, actually, I know you're kind of interested in Nikola Tesla.
art bell
I am.
unidentified
And I have a couple of URLs.
One of them is like...
art bell
No, no, no.
No URLs on the air.
Don't be sure about that.
No, we don't do that.
I mean, we send somebody ostensibly in search of Nicola Tesla, and they find Marilyn does them all.
unidentified
Well, if you're interested for your own use anyways, I wouldn't mind giving them to you.
I think you might find some pretty interesting questions.
art bell
Well, you'll have to find another way to get them to me.
unidentified
I'll shoot you an email or something probably to yourself.
art bell
Yeah, that's what it is.
That's what it is.
I mean, you've just got to understand that we get fooled from that.
unidentified
Oh, definitely.
Yeah, definitely.
And I'm sure people try and call in and advertise and things like that.
If I could, I just want to give a quick shout out to a couple of my friends who also listen to the show.
A-Stax and I missed the name.
art bell
Who?
unidentified
A-Stax Calhoun Jr. Florida and Scotto up in Michigan.
And they are both listening to you right now, I believe.
So all right.
art bell
Well, I hope they're surviving the experience and the exposure.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Art, how's it going?
art bell
Pretty well.
unidentified
First time caller.
art bell
Oh, really?
unidentified
Where are you?
Well, I'm in Eugene, Oregon.
Okay.
KPNW.
art bell
Of course.
unidentified
Anyway, you don't know how many times I've tried to call your show to get on.
art bell
How many times?
unidentified
I can't count that high.
I'm a product of public schools.
Anyway, it's amazing to talk to you.
art bell
Well, not so far.
unidentified
And I've always loved your show.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
And anyway.
art bell
I've always wanted to ask, why do you like it?
What is my program?
What is it you like about my program?
unidentified
Like, I mean, I love the shows about Bigfoot, stuff like that.
I'm into cryptozoology, so I love stuff like that.
So I love listening.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Anyway, I'm just embarrassed.
It's crazy because I got on your show.
I've been calling you forever.
So anyway, I love your show.
art bell
Have you seen a Bigfoot?
unidentified
No, but I do believe in them.
art bell
Would you want to see a Bigfoot?
unidentified
It would scare the hell out of me.
But I would probably, I don't know.
art bell
I mean, like, just be walking through the woods and you go by a tree, and there's the Bigfoot about two feet away from you.
unidentified
Well, I'd probably have to be changing my drawers without being, you know, going in, without being rude.
art bell
No, I understand.
Believe me, I understand.
About 10 feet tall.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Hair.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Probably as unhappy to see you as you are to see it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, that would definitely be nerve-wracking.
Anyway, I was going to give you a bunch of mumbo-jumbo about being the anti-elvis, but I think I'm on the wrong line.
art bell
Anti-Elvis?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
You can't be anti-Elvis.
unidentified
No, I'm the anti-Elvis.
art bell
No, there can't be an anti-Elvis.
unidentified
I know.
I'm just kidding.
Anyway, can I say hi to somebody real quick?
art bell
You're not supposed to be honest.
You know, you're really not supposed to do that.
Who?
unidentified
Hi, Mark.
How's it going?
art bell
Yeah, see, you're not supposed.
Okay, well, Mark's got it now.
Thank you.
You're not supposed to do that.
I don't know where I heard that either, that you're not supposed to do that.
You're not supposed to say hi to people on the radio.
Isn't that a violation of something?
I don't know.
I forget.
On the international line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hello, good morning, Art.
art bell
Hi, where are you?
unidentified
Canada.
art bell
Where in Canada?
unidentified
Manitoba.
art bell
Manitoba?
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
mike in texas
You know, I think I would make a very, very good Antichrist.
art bell
Why?
unidentified
Why?
art bell
Yes.
mike in texas
Well, with the exception of my family, I hate all of mankind.
art bell
I really, really do.
unidentified
Literally everybody?
Generally, scientists are the top of the list.
art bell
You hate scientists?
unidentified
Yes, I do.
I really, really do.
art bell
Why?
mike in texas
Mankind is the greediest, the most wasteful.
art bell
This is beginning to sound like a manifesto.
unidentified
The most violent.
art bell
It is a manifesto.
unidentified
And the cruelest creature on the face of the earth.
art bell
That's what the Unabomber said.
mike in texas
And I really believe we deserve nothing less than total extinction.
unidentified
I really believe that.
art bell
The entire race?
unidentified
Pardon me?
art bell
The entire human race?
Extinction?
unidentified
No quarter.
No quarter whatsoever.
I mean, just.
I mean, enough is enough.
I'm just saying.
If I was.
art bell
What about your family?
mike in texas
If I had the opportunity to be an Antichrist, I mean, I would wreak havoc upon the face of the earth.
unidentified
I mean, it's just.
art bell
What would you do?
Out of curiosity.
Let's say that you had the power and you could wreak this havoc.
What what would you do?
unidentified
What would I do?
art bell
How would you yeah, how would you do it?
mean earthquakes?
unidentified
I mean, you name it.
There are so many things.
I mean a comet big enough to wipe all life off the face of the earth.
An asteroid.
I mean nuclear war.
I mean there's so many.
art bell
There's hardly anything you wouldn't do, huh?
unidentified
No, it's just that, I mean, I've always been a cynic.
mike in texas
But I've just started listening to your show over the course of the last couple of weeks, and I've become a hardcore cynic.
unidentified
I really have.
art bell
As well as a hardcore fan, I take it.
unidentified
Pardon me?
art bell
As well as a hardcore fan, I take it.
mike in texas
Well, I mean, some of your nights are a lot better than others are a lot better than others.
art bell
Kind of the way life is, you know.
mike in texas
You know, I like, you know, I'm mainly like listening to things that are more down-to-earth.
You know, like shows that represent things that can really happen.
unidentified
Like, for instance, you were talking the other night about the Terminator seed.
Yeah.
art bell
But actually, you know what?
When you really get right down to it, there's not a hell of a lot of difference between the concept of the Terminator seed, the concept of poison that kills coming out of contrails intentionally being spread, and when I open a line for people who say they're the Antichrist.
No, I didn't say that.
mike in texas
Hypothetically, if I was given that opportunity to become one, I mean, I don't, I'm not a religious person.
I guess it was just my little way of voicing my first off, I would eliminate all the scientists.
I mean, I guess they have given mankind some good, but I feel they've given more bad than good.
art bell
So you would take out the scientists before the lawyers, even.
unidentified
The scientists are at the top of the list for me.
mike in texas
I mean, I'm sure they, yeah, I'm not disputing the fact that they've given some good to mankind, but on the whole, I think they've given more bad to mankind than good.
art bell
Did you see the story the other day about the man who got the new hand?
unidentified
No, I didn't.
art bell
No, they actually, you know what?
He had been missing a hand.
He lost his hand in a firecracker accident.
And he lost it.
unidentified
Oh, right, okay, right.
That's right.
art bell
Like 13 years ago or 15 years ago?
unidentified
The transplant, yeah.
art bell
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they gave him a new hand.
Well, you know where the hand came from, right?
unidentified
Yeah, a cadaver.
art bell
A cadaver.
Exactly.
Exactly so.
A cadaver.
It's not like a liver that you donate or something.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
You're saying you're pointing out some good.
But I'm saying, I mean, look at the evil far away is the good.
art bell
Well, I'm not sure I just pointed out something good.
I've pointed out something, I think, fairly controversial.
What evil do you see that science has done?
unidentified
I mean, just look around, Art.
I mean, I don't have to go into it.
I think I can.
art bell
Give me just one example of an evil thing science has, well...
unidentified
The A-bomb.
art bell
Yeah, I knew you were going to say that, Damn.
I was about to accept that.
unidentified
I mean, we could talk for weeks about the evils that...
art bell
Well, Tari, give me one example other than the A-bomb.
unidentified
Pardon me?
art bell
Other than the A-bomb, give me one good example.
unidentified
Military hardware.
art bell
Well, you know, there's a number of ways of looking at that.
And if we didn't have military hardware, we would not.
unidentified
Okay, here's a prime example.
mike in texas
You were talking Tuesday night about the Terminator seed.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
There's another prime example.
The lengths that they will go to.
art bell
Well, you've got me there.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
It's never, never-ending.
Salt Lake City Revelation 00:15:50
unidentified
It's just very.
art bell
So you'd like to see all the world scientists at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.
unidentified
At the bottom or wherever.
Wherever.
All right.
art bell
I think I've got it.
Thank you very much.
Interesting.
Sounds a little like the Unibombers Manifesto.
Actually, you know, in some ways, I don't know how many of you read the Unibombers Manifesto.
Not a lot of people took the time to read it.
But he made a lot of good points.
It's just that he punctuated them poorly in a very anti-social manner.
But the manifesto actually reads in a fairly interesting intellectual way.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
art bell
Hey.
unidentified
You know, I was calling from St. George, Utah.
I can't get through on the West of the Rockies line.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
It's telling me if you can't get there, you can't call that number from this calling area.
art bell
Oh, no.
We're trying to get.
We thought we had all that straight.
So St. George, Utah, cannot get through on the West of the Rockies line, huh?
unidentified
That's what I've been saying.
That's what I've been getting all night long.
art bell
What's your area code up there?
unidentified
435.
art bell
435.
unidentified
Yeah, they just changed ours about a year ago, too.
I know.
art bell
They're calling crackers with this damn area code stuff.
I'm going to have a new area code.
Ashama already have one.
And soon it will be official, and you'll no longer be able to reach me with the old 702.
Our new area code is going to be 775.
unidentified
Yeah, I tried sending you a fact on that line.
In fact, I did on the other night.
art bell
There you are.
I got to use it now.
They've already activated it.
unidentified
Remember that joke you said you couldn't play on the air the other night?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Are you going to archive that on your website sometime?
Did you hear it?
I did not.
I was at work.
I couldn't get to a computer.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
You really piqued my interest in that.
I'm like, damn, I wish I had a computer handy.
art bell
Well, see, during the breaks, I can talk to the internet audience exclusively.
And the same laws and stuff don't quite apply when you're just on the internet.
So there are a few things that I can do for the internet listeners that I cannot do for the broadcast listeners.
unidentified
I understand that.
art bell
I wish it wasn't so, but it is.
So, will I archive it?
No.
unidentified
Oh, damn it.
art bell
Thanks for the call.
Now, that was a one-time job.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, Art.
This is Larry in Fort Lauderdale.
art bell
Hello, Larry.
How's Fort Lauderdale?
unidentified
Not cold enough.
art bell
Not cold enough.
We love cold weather.
Well, if you love cold weather, what the hell are you doing in Fort Lauderdale?
unidentified
Well, when you're raised here, you stay here.
I wanted to mention a couple things.
art bell
One, you know, the grass is always greener.
unidentified
I mean, you've got palm trees, you've got sunny days.
jacob in washington
You're living in Disney World down here.
All the tourists come and they're all over the place, and it's rough life, huh?
art bell
Yeah, whereas you could be instead in Detroit, hit deep in snow or something.
unidentified
Oregon.
art bell
Really living, huh?
Oregon?
Yeah.
unidentified
Oregon.
Think of the global warming.
You don't want to be here.
A couple things.
jacob in washington
If your cats, if your kitty cat showing themselves, I think they were afraid they were going to be shot the other night.
art bell
Well, with your.
You know what I'm going to have to do?
I'm going to have to start.
I'm going to have to start, I'm going to have to put some sort of, I don't know what the hell I'm going to do.
I guess I'm going to have to keep the door shut.
jacob in washington
Don't wave the Glock in front of them because they tend to know what that is.
That's an evil, black-looking thing.
art bell
Kitty cats, no Glocks.
unidentified
I think so.
I think so.
jacob in washington
The other thing I wanted to mention was Contrails.
The other night was a pretty serious, heavy show when you were talking about it.
And it seemed like there was no way out.
But if you break this down and you look at your show as probably one of the major electronic global campfires where you literally have a lot of power with your show for people that are in touch with the pilots, the crew members, the people that are loading these planes.
And you could use this power by people using the internet, being able to get back to you on the phone or on the internet to get to the bottom of some of these things, Freedom of Information Acts and things like that.
I don't think they can operate in secrecy when they're going to be right above our heads, you know, putting X patterns in front of everybody very long without telling us.
art bell
If you knew how much communication I had after that show, you would be shocked.
I mean, you honestly would be shocked.
jacob in washington
Well, I hope there's some follow-up to it, and I think that, you know, just demanding from our congressmen, you know, what are they doing?
If they're testing the way the winds are going and they think they're dumping something mundane on us, fine, but we want to know about it.
And I think that there's enough paper trails out there to where they can hide something that is documented.
When you had people calling in from all of the country with their same stories, that tends to certify, you know, what your guest was saying.
art bell
I know.
jacob in washington
It removes all doubt.
But keep up the good work because, like I said, I think that you're truly the modern global campfire leader in enabling people from all parts of the globe at one time to be able to talk and communicate alternative ideas.
art bell
Appreciate the call, sir.
Thank you.
sergeant clifford stone
Thank you.
art bell
Take care.
On the international line, you are on the air, top of the morning.
unidentified
Well, Mr. Bill, it's in Ontario, Coleman.
art bell
You're in Ontario?
unidentified
Yes.
I've called you about four times in the past, and I always was able to get through on the East of the Rockies line.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And for the last two months, I haven't been able to get through on that line at all.
art bell
Let me get this straight.
So in other words, you're in Ontario.
You're calling me on the international line, and you cannot get through on the East of the Rockies line.
Is that right?
unidentified
Right.
And I'm in area code 705.
art bell
705.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
And I'm telling you, the phone company.
unidentified
I know.
It happens here with Canadian members as well that are 800 members.
Sometimes they work, and recently everything is kind of dead, and you have to call through on the long-distance line.
art bell
Listen, I'm telling you right now.
Look, I appreciate the call, but I'm telling you, and I'm telling you all, there is something going on with our phone companies.
We no longer have a phone company.
We have phone companies, and there's something going on.
There is not as much service, not as much capacity, not as much something.
And I'm going to get to the bottom of it.
You know, it'd be fun to have somebody on from the phone company or a phone company to try and explain this.
It would also be interesting to have Jerry Falwell on.
I would like to have Jerry Falwell on.
I wonder if he has a nerve to actually come on.
You know, I know you said that people who talk about the kinds of things or believe in the kinds of things that we talk about on this show should be stoned.
As in the biblical sense, stoned.
But he still would make an interesting guest, wouldn't he?
unidentified
Make a very interesting guess.
art bell
So what do you say, Jerry?
unidentified
Are you up to it?
Or are you in fear of it, Jerry?
art bell
I would have you on, in keeping with my tradition, having literally anybody on, I would do it.
unidentified
Jerry Falwell, where are you?
art bell
All right, everybody.
Stay right where you are.
We're not done yet.
unidentified
This is Premier Network.
That was Art Bell with the Coast to Coast AM on this somewhere in time.
If you love her, then you have favour.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 28th, 1999.
art bell
Boy, you've got to admit, phasing this record, this song, it was made to be phased.
Well, I am reminded, and properly so, that it was not Jerry Falwell who said that people believe in UFOs should be stoned.
It was Pat Robertson.
I get them confused.
Robertson, Falwell, Falwell, Robertson.
I'd like to have Pat Robertson on, too.
Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, they would make interesting guests, don't you think?
Very, very interesting guests.
But would they come on a show where the host from time to time has an Antichrist line?
unidentified
I don't think so.
art bell
But you never know.
So if any of you know contact addresses, email for any of them, fire them off.
Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell or whoever.
I'll do it.
You know me.
On my Antichrist line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Oh, I was a first-time caller.
art bell
Tonight, this is the Antichrist line.
unidentified
Oh, they just gave it as a first-time caller line.
art bell
I know.
I'm sorry about that.
I mean, that voicing does it, but you don't want to be mixed up with the Antichrist, do you?
unidentified
No.
art bell
Okay.
Well, thank you.
Call us tomorrow, and all will be well.
By the way, tomorrow Ed Dames is here, and he's been remote viewing Satan.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
Hi, it's off.
art bell
That's good.
unidentified
Am I on the air?
Yes.
Okay, yeah.
Second time caller from Southwake Tahoe.
And I just want to let you know that I'm reading your book, The Quickening.
I finally got it.
art bell
Oh.
unidentified
And it's excellent.
art bell
Thank you.
It's accurate.
unidentified
Yeah, it's very accurate.
In fact, to tell you the truth, I'm about halfway through it now, and I'm not surprised by anything.
It's nice.
And I've just started listening to your radio show seriously in December.
I've been listening to it almost every night since.
And it's nice to know that there's other people out there that think the same thing I've been thinking for years.
With all the suspicions, with all the things that are going on, and people that see them and actually can tie it in.
art bell
Well, you see, that's why my show, I think, resonates with people because I cut through the normal BS that you get in the media, and I talk about the same stuff that everybody else is thinking.
unidentified
Exactly.
Exactly.
Like, okay, for one thing, this Y2K thing that's coming up, there's very little anything in the press.
Occasionally, I'll see something in the Sacramento B, which is a local big paper, on the Y2K.
And I've been talking to my mom who lives in Sacramento about it, Neil, and they're getting ready to move.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And, you know, she's like, well, how do you get all this?
And it's like, well, first of all, I get it off the Art Bell show, then I go to the website, and I get it all off the computer and off those other things.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
She says, well, how come there's nothing on the news?
I said, well, I don't know.
Think about it.
You know, maybe they don't want you to know a whole lot right now, or maybe they don't want any panics at this moment.
art bell
They don't.
unidentified
You know, they'll wait for the panics later.
art bell
And I don't really none of us should want panics.
unidentified
No, huh.
art bell
And the way to avoid that is to be prepared.
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
Now, if it happens and people have not been warned, then they're going to be angry.
The ones particularly who have not prepared are going to be really ticked off.
unidentified
Really tactic.
And it's like one thing I keep trying to force onto them also, and everybody else I talk to about it, because I've been talking to a lot of people, is that it may be a real big thing.
It may not be.
But why take a chance?
art bell
My feeling, exactly, sir.
thank you once again we open the gates i mean the phone lines to whatever may be out there On my Antichrist line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Is this me, Art?
art bell
That's you.
unidentified
How you doing?
art bell
I'm doing all right.
unidentified
Really good.
Well, I am the big AC, the SOP himself.
I never knew it.
You never knew it?
art bell
I mean, how old are you now?
unidentified
Huh?
art bell
How old are you?
unidentified
Well, I'm about 57.
art bell
57, and you never knew it until when?
unidentified
Until a really kind minister in Salt Lake City pointed it out.
And I fell in love with a gal in his congregation.
art bell
And from this, he derived that you were the Antichrist?
unidentified
Yes, yes.
And, you know, I went and got my hand ticket, and in Salt Lake City.
art bell
Now, now you've really blown it because I don't believe for one second.
No, nobody gets a six-call in Salt Lake City.
unidentified
I did.
I got assigned a six-call from Salt Lake City, Utah.
And then when I moved to Lake Lake, WW666, right?
I got a post office box 666.
You know?
art bell
Now, this is beginning to get interesting, yes.
unidentified
You know, but, you know, it was just because of a kind minister in Salt Lake City.
art bell
It's hard to imagine any minister that would say, son, I've been observing you.
You're the Antichrist.
Now, that's not exactly.
unidentified
Well, I fell in love with somebody in his congregation, so he was trying to warn her about me because I was the Antichrist.
art bell
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
In other words, he knew all along who you were.
unidentified
The Antichrist, yes.
Yeah.
See, so he was a pretty wise fella.
And then, you know, when I got my six call in Salt Lake City.
art bell
Be careful.
Now I'm a six, too, you know.
unidentified
Yeah, now, but you never moved to Morrow Bay and got a 666.
art bell
No, you know.
No.
unidentified
You know.
art bell
I know, but I mean, there's got to be more to it than that.
So far, this is rather except for the planned, you know.
unidentified
Well, you know, I circumstantial radio program called The Voice of the Antichrist.
I'm going to move back to Salt Lake City.
art bell
You really think you're going to broadcast The Voice of the Antichrist from Salt Lake City?
unidentified
I have top the Wash Mountains.
Yeah, right.
art bell
In your dreams.
unidentified
Well, hey, I got a new book coming out called Does God Believe in the Trinity?
And people can write my post office box.
art bell
No, you don't.
No doubt.
unidentified
666.
art bell
Yes, I know.
Yeah, right.
Going up to Salt Lake City, the voice of the Antichrist.
Right.
unidentified
Check.
art bell
Do you know how fast you'll get run out of Salt Lake City?
You won't last 10 seconds up there, buddy.
Antichrist Deception 00:12:43
unidentified
All right.
art bell
On my Antichrist line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Oh, good deal.
Okay.
First of all, I am the Antichrist.
So you finally got me.
Now you can forget asking all these other people because they don't have a clue what they're talking about.
art bell
They're all frauds.
unidentified
They don't know me.
They don't know anything about me.
They don't know what's going on.
peter gersten
And everything that's been said about me is a lie.
art bell
How are we to know that?
What can you tell us that would convince us that you, of all the people that I've spoken with this evening, are the real McCoy?
peter gersten
Well, I could tell you in one little sentence, maybe, or maybe you'd actually have to listen to what I have to say for a little bit.
art bell
Well, I have a limited amount of time here.
unidentified
That's very interesting.
peter gersten
I'll be here until you can no longer handle the truth.
art bell
Well, I'm listening.
peter gersten
So, okay, number one.
unidentified
People say about me that I worship Satan.
Okay.
Well, the thing is, what does Satan do?
Okay.
Satan wants your soul.
peter gersten
Satan wants you to give him your soul.
unidentified
And what does he do with you after he gets your soul?
He puts you to work for him.
peter gersten
And when you go to work for him, you have to go out and get other souls for him.
art bell
Makes sense.
unidentified
I'm not after anybody's soul.
I'm not trying to take anybody's soul.
That whole concept is a lie.
It's a lie and an illusion that's awful.
art bell
Are you saying there is no soul?
unidentified
No, there is a soul.
art bell
Absolutely.
unidentified
There is a soul.
peter gersten
But I'm not the one out riding bicycles, knocking on doors, telling people to send me money.
I'm not the one that's out there recruiting people and telling them to give me their soul.
art bell
How then do you solicit souls?
unidentified
I don't have to solicit souls.
art bell
Souls come to me.
unidentified
I'm not after souls.
The whole concept is a lie.
art bell
I see.
What is it you are after?
unidentified
I'm after the truth, and I am revealing the truth.
peter gersten
You know, the whole concept in the society that you have set up here is order out of chaos.
unidentified
The reality is truth out of chaos.
peter gersten
Everything that you've been told about me is a lie in the first place.
unidentified
Now, you have to remember that.
art bell
All right, I'm trying.
peter gersten
Well, you really do, because the thing is, everything that's been conceived about me is that's given to the negative things that have been said.
art bell
They're all wrong.
unidentified
Well, everything that's been said, period.
art bell
So then, all right, fine.
You say you are interested in the truth.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
You say everything that's been said about you or thought about you is all wrong.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
So then tell us about you.
What is the truth?
peter gersten
Okay, well, the truth is, is that everything that is on this planet right now is a deception, an illusion, and a movie playing out its screen.
I have a part coming up in it, right?
Okay, the thing is, what's going to be revealed is that everybody on this planet is in deception.
And until they come out of the deception, until they wake up from the dream, this illusion that's given to you by your government, by your churches, by your religious organizations, by your morals and dogma that are issued on the media, then nobody's going to wake up.
Everybody has to wake up, and that's what is happening at the end of this time.
unidentified
The deception is revealed.
See, that's what has to happen.
All right.
And me being the Antichrist, yes, that's what I am.
peter gersten
But the thing is, is that I am the good guy.
Everything that you think about me is a lie, and the thing that you think that you're expecting...
art bell
And Jesus?
unidentified
And Jesus?
Jesus is just a myth, a mythology.
There is no guy that came here.
It was borrowed from older religions or stolen.
And those things were all corrupted, too.
peter gersten
It was stolen from corrupted religions and given a new name, packaged out, and then tells everybody things about me that are not true.
art bell
Jesus, you are relegating to a myth, then why should we not believe you are not but a myth?
unidentified
Well, because I am the one that is of this earth.
peter gersten
I'm the product of our society and the desire within every man's heart for freedom and truth and justice.
art bell
Well, we sure don't have a hell of a lot of that around right now.
unidentified
Well, that's right.
peter gersten
And that's why you're waiting for something to happen.
unidentified
That's why you're waiting for the truth to be revealed.
We're waiting for all this chaos.
art bell
We're waiting for you.
unidentified
Well, that's right.
And you could do the same thing.
peter gersten
But what you have to do is you have to strip away the delusion.
You have to get over the corruption that's happened to you and the conditioning that's been done to you in your life.
unidentified
And so does everybody else.
People have to get away from belief.
art bell
Purity is only reached when you strip away all faith and all belief systems.
unidentified
Well, you replace them with truth.
art bell
And the truth is?
unidentified
About what?
art bell
The truth is, obviously, that there is no God.
There is no asthma.
There is no God.
unidentified
That's not true.
No.
peter gersten
Just because I'm the Antichrist doesn't mean I'm saying there's no God.
unidentified
There definitely is a God.
art bell
There's a God.
peter gersten
But I'm the Antichrist, but I'm the good guy.
unidentified
See?
You got the whole thing mixed up.
art bell
And God is the bad guy.
unidentified
Well, it depends on which one.
art bell
People have to think of things.
You know, they have to grasp simple concepts, but basically, that's what you're saying.
unidentified
Right.
peter gersten
The society's model that they've been given and told is God is the bad guy.
unidentified
That's right.
art bell
that's the lord of oppression that's the lord that that's the one that that with it with you Let me tell you something that somebody once told me that has always beaten me intellectually to death ever since I heard it.
Somebody I know told me, when you die, don't go to the light.
It's a trick.
unidentified
Go to the darkness.
art bell
Well, that's bothered me ever since I heard it.
unidentified
Well, that could very be right.
The whole trick is, when you die, you better be able to wake up.
You better be already awake before you die.
You better be ready to handle death before death happens to you.
peter gersten
Whether you're going into light or not, this is like elementary school questions here.
unidentified
What are we going to do?
We have a fork in the road.
Go left or go right.
It's not that simple.
It's not that simple.
peter gersten
You can't go into the light or not go into the light.
unidentified
It's not that simple.
You have to wake up.
You have to become.
You have to be able to withstand the beatific vision.
peter gersten
If you can withstand the beatific vision, then you move on.
You get out of this recycled system here, this wasteland of people that have to keep coming back because they don't get it.
unidentified
They just don't figure it out.
peter gersten
And everything that is in media right now, all this morals and dogma that are being pushed on everybody, it's lies.
It's morals and dogma, and it's bad for mankind.
The things that we've been told are good, chastity, marriage.
art bell
And all the preachers, all the Pat Robertsons, all the Jerry Falwells, all the...
peter gersten
Most of the evangelists are the big workers of Satan.
That's the highest form of Satanism, is when you're the televangelist.
Remember, I told you I'm the Antichrist, but I'm the good guy.
unidentified
Those guys are the bad guy.
art bell
I know.
I'm trying to grasp this.
unidentified
The great Satan is the churches.
peter gersten
The great Satan is the deception that was put together by Constantine in Rome and created this huge Roman religio-governmental society that's this big lie that's happened to the entire planet.
art bell
And how do you expect your time to arrive and people just suddenly understand the truths you speak of?
peter gersten
Well, it's going to happen to everybody probably all at one time.
You know, what happens is people wake up, people start to understand what's happening, and this consciousness develops within all of us.
It's like we're having a great awakening right now.
unidentified
Everybody is starting to grasp it.
peter gersten
The things that I think are going into the whole of the consciousness.
unidentified
They're going into the whole of it.
And as I said, I am a product of this planet.
I am the spirit of human.
peter gersten
I am the man that thinks for freedom and truth and justice.
The man that finds out the deceptions, hunts them down, kicks them out.
art bell
How can you personally, just as a matter of curiosity, be sure that you are not the one being deceived?
unidentified
Well, put it this way, Art.
I don't believe anything.
peter gersten
I don't believe anything.
unidentified
I think a lot of things.
I don't believe anything.
And you know why?
peter gersten
It's because the word believe, the word believe, come from the Semitic root word bel, B-E-L.
And Bel was the Ugaritic God of Deception.
unidentified
Okay?
Now, that's nothing to say about your name.
That's all I'm saying.
art bell
That's with one L, right?
That's with one L.
unidentified
Yeah, well, to, right.
And to belie, to B-E-L, i.e., is to deceive.
If you belie someone, you deceive them.
If you bell i.e., you are the victim of the deception.
Hmm.
So when you believe, when you say, what do I believe?
What do you believe?
What does anybody believe?
Everybody says, what do you believe?
Well, I don't believe anything.
peter gersten
And that's why, because the whole society, all of our concepts are turned completely around.
Society sacrifices their children to the great Lord of Darkness by letting them get mind-controlled into this system, by sending them to the state indoctrination center school system that fill them full of their morals and dogma and their lie about what humanity is supposed to be.
art bell
And the churches?
unidentified
And the churches.
peter gersten
Because the churches are a deception because if somebody thinks, gee, I need to figure out what God is all about, what do they do?
unidentified
Pick up the phone book and look inside there?
Where are you going to go?
All these different churches, they say, we're the right one.
We're the right one.
And they're all based on a lie.
art bell
So God doesn't have an 800 number.
unidentified
Right.
God does not have an 800 number.
art bell
All right.
Well, this has been intriguing, and I will consider what you have said.
On my international line, you are on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, all right.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
It's Steve Collum from B.C., Canada.
art bell
A British Columbia?
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
Okay, where in B.C., actually?
unidentified
Ah, sorry, just outside of Vancouver.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
I got just something.
I've been trying to get a hold of you for about a month here.
Yes.
You had a fellow on the program talking about that the Pillar of Osiris?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
About a month ago?
Yes, I did.
I remember you asking him a question about where all these extra souls are coming from.
art bell
Yes, I did.
unidentified
And he was kind of stuck for an answer?
art bell
He was.
Yeah.
We're kind of all stuck for an answer on that one.
You know, there's coming up on six billion of us now.
So it's not an easy answer.
unidentified
Well, I can tell you where they're coming from.
art bell
All right, tell me quickly because we don't have a lot of time.
unidentified
They're coming from trees.
Trees.
Trees are cut down the souls of relief.
art bell
That's really kind of a cool concept.
unidentified
I can't really.
art bell
You know, you know, you need to know this.
Well, go read a book called Speaker for the Dead.
You go read a book called Speaker for the Dead, and then you call me back, all right?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
In the meantime, tell everybody good night from British Columbia.
unidentified
Okay, good night from BC.
art bell
That's it.
Ed Dames, who's been doing some rather interesting remote viewing, I think will be here tonight from the high desert.
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