Arvol Looking Horse, Lakota spiritual leader born in 1954 and 19th-generation keeper of the sacred white buffalo calf pipe, ties 1994’s first white buffalo calf to Wounded Knee ceremonies and sun dances, warning that humanity’s disregard for Mother Earth—amplified by environmental crises like melting permafrost and unseasonal storms—risks a "black cloud" prophecy causing chaos. He condemns commercialized ceremonies, stresses June 21st’s World Peace and Prayer Day as pivotal for collective spiritual energy, and links modern disruptions (e.g., Denver Airport accidents) to sacred land desecration. Callers share grief, addiction recovery, and climate concerns, while Bell reflects on mortality and the urgency of spiritual unity amid Y2K financial fears and cultural erosion, underscoring how ancient prophecies may mirror today’s existential warnings. [Automatically generated summary]
And let me tell you a little bit about who you're about to hear.
Arville Lookinghorse was born on the Cheyenne River Reservation in South Dakota in 1954.
Raised by his grandparents, Lucy and Thomas Lookinghorse, he learned the culture and spiritual ways of the Lakota.
He speaks both Lakota and English.
At age 12, he was given the enormous responsibility of becoming the 19th generation keeper of the sacred white buffalo calf pipe, the youngest in history.
He has felt on many occasions overwhelmed by inheriting such a responsibility of the Lakota, Dakota, and Dakota nations at such a young age.
He was raised in an era and lay witness to the suppression of his people's spiritual practices.
He decided to work for change and let the world know how beautiful our way of life is, so the seventh generation can have a better future.
His life has revolved around his commitment to work toward religious freedom, cultural survival, and revival.
In 1986, as one of the spiritual leaders of the Bigfoot riders, they initiated a prophecy known as Mending the Sacred Hoop of the Nation.
Chief Looking Horse honored the healing journey by riding with the Bigfoot riders every December 15th through the 29th in rather severe temperatures, which all the committed Bigfoot riders endured to understand the immensity of the hardship of Chief Bigfoot and his band.
In 1993, Chief Looking Horse traveled to New York with the elders of different nations for the United Nations Cry of the Earth Conference, where he did the opening prayer.
That was at the UN.
The unprecedented nations and people's organizations invited him to Holland, Netherlands, there to pray for peace and unity in 1994.
The birth of the sacred white buffalo in Wisconsin in 1994 directed him to begin yet another spiritual journey of a four-year commitment to organize World Peace and Prayer Day on June 21st in the four directions, bringing awareness to the prophecies with a call to secure the sacredness of the sacred sites that dwell every 100 miles around Mother Earth.
There is much more to tell about him coming up in just a few moments.
Arville Looking Horse.
Chief Looking Horse also assists in retrieving the remains of the ancestors from museums like the Smithsonian, continues to work toward the repatriation of sacred bundles and human remains in an effort to bring respect and ritual rights back to the sacred.
His work has been endless in lecturing on religious freedom, protection of sacred sites, and cultural survival.
His living legacy is to bring pride and restoration back to the Lakota, Dakota, and Dakota lands, culture, and spirituality.
Then we keep that it's a whole ceremony that consists of like this the spirit and we believe that the spirit is in our hair.
So we keep the like when a person dies or goes into the spirit world then we would take some hair and do us good we have to go through a ceremony with this.
And then the spirit, we have to feed that spirit every day, just like feeding a person.
And then we do this for a whole year.
And after one year, we do a spirit releasing ceremony where we would allow that spirit to go into the spirit world.
And then the people, they would all come together and then honor the family.
By honoring the family, they would give the family the spirit food, which is like dried meat.
We say wasna is like spirit food.
And then cherry juice and water.
And then the sacred pipe or the pipe.
With this pipe, then they have a ceremony and then they pray with the family to the four directions, Great Spirit, Mother Earth.
And then a spiritual leader would talk to the family to let that spirit go into the spirit world.
And that way, we would feel good inside.
That's what the spiritual leader would say.
No, you have to let that spirit go because you can't keep him.
It's going to like you'll have different feelings.
So you have to let that spirit go and then you'll feel good.
Because you've got some children, you got some grandchildren.
You have to think about them.
So that's what he would talk to the family with this in mind.
And then after the whole ceremony and talking to the family, then they would welcome the family back into the Teoshpai, the camp, or the people, so that they would have a good feeling with the people.
And I have great envy for those who are sure, and they can grab their faith like a pillar, like a strong pillar, and hold on to it at moments like these for me.
But I don't have that exactly.
And what do you believe is the nature of the spirit world?
What is the nature of the spirit world?
Does this mean that our consciousness, do your people believe that our consciousness continues, that we continue in some form that we understand now, or a completely different form?
The way we believe is like up there in the sky, it's called the Milky Way.
And they have to make that journey.
It's a spiritual journey that they have to make.
And then for us, like our relatives, that's where the spirit world is, is to journey into the spirit world.
And that's why, like in our stories and everything that was handed down through the ceremonies, and now we go when we live a spiritual With this teachings of the sacred pipe and the four stages of our life, then the last one is this spiritual journey.
what are the four stages of our life Our stories and ceremonies goes way back into the first creation.
So there's a lot of stories that from the first creation to then the four stages of our life is becoming a spirit that comes upon Mother Earth.
And then the spirit, the family, the father and mother, or a man and a woman, would pray for the spirit to come.
And then a child would come.
And then the first stage is a sacred being.
And the second stage is become a young man or young woman.
And there's a ceremony that is done at the age of 12 where you become a young man or young woman.
And the third one is sacrificing yourself to the tree of life, which is the sundance.
And because we honor this cycle of life, and we are part of the cycle of life.
And we are part of a spirit of our relatives.
So before we pray or after we pray, we say, That means all of our relatives.
so that's the way we believe this cycle of life and we are part of mother nature so then the fourth cycle is So we have to make that journey upon Mother Earth, the four stages.
As the white buffalo calf woman said, you walk upon Mother Earth in a sacred manner.
That means that's what she said, that you make this journey upon Mother Earth.
You're going to do the ceremonies, the four ceremonies.
And it goes back to the time when she brought the sacred bundle.
She stopped four times on the hill.
And each time she rolled over and stood up, she became different.
The first one is a black buffalo.
The second one was a red one.
The third one is yellow.
And the fourth one is a white one.
She went over the hill as a white buffalo calf.
So they call it the Songwei, the white buffalo calf woman.
But these four stages is our life upon Mother Earth.
So we make this journey, and this is our spiritual growth as we walk upon Mother Earth.
We take Changkuluta, this red path, and we have to make that journey.
So our prayers have to be always forward to do these ceremonies.
But it's a way of life because we have to go with the four seasons.
And every day is, we have to thank the Great Spirit, the Creator, and then pray because each breath we take and each heartbeat is a great mystery.
It's wakah.
It's sacred.
So that's our journey as a spirit upon Mother Earth.
And a long time ago, this white buffalo is a core.
She brought the sacred pipe.
And the white buffalo is a symbol.
It's like the sundance.
This white buffalo is a powerful image of our people because the white buffalo is so sacred.
You have to go through, offer tobacco to a spiritual leader to honor that.
Let the sundance.
You have to offer tobacco or do some offering to a medicine person or spiritual leader to help you, to guide you or to help you understand the sacredness of this white buffalo.
For those of you who joined late some stations in the second hour, I just like minutes before I went on the air got a call that a very close friend of mine just passed away unexpectedly at 59 with a massive heart attack.
It's so strange, isn't it?
The feelings it produces in those who are left, and I still see his face.
He was here yesterday afternoon.
I still feel his presence, and yet he's gone.
Chief Arville Lookinghorse is my guest.
It's a great honor indeed to have him on the program, and we'll get back to him in just a moment.
Chief Arville Lookinghorse, Chief, welcome back.
Oh.
Maybe you can help us all understand what is the meaning of the white buffalo, the birth of the white buffalo.
Many of us, you know, in the news services here in the country, we have had, I think, two or maybe three reports of births of white buffaloes.
And every time we get a report, we wonder what it means.
1994 is the year and according to that I was the spiritual leader of the Ride to Winded Knee from 1986.
That's when the ride started.
I was the spiritual leader of the Ride to Winded Knee and being part of the ceremony at Winded Knee in 1990.
It's called Mending of the Sacred Hoop.
At the time, these elders were sharing their feelings about the ride and how we were caught up with a lot of hatred, anger, jealousy and all the things that doesn't even belong in the ceremonies.
We get caught up in that.
To do a ceremony like 1990, it's going to take four years to travel the great distance.
That's how we would eventually, because we're going to follow the staff and the ceremony.
We're going to follow the spirit that is going to show itself.
So by listening to these elders, we did a ceremony and that's what we did in 1990.
We did a swiping the tears ceremony that won the seven sacred rites that we just talked about.
And to let all that anger, hatred and jealousy go so we can create peace within ourselves.
And from there, we can journey out to the world to create peace, work towards peace and unity, peace and harmony.
Because after four years, according to our ceremonies, it's four days and four years.
So it was four years after we did a ceremony, our whole nation did a ceremony at Wounded Knee.
And this ceremony, we were told through the sacred altar that we're going to see things that are going to show themselves.
And just four years later, a White Buffalo calf is born.
And it was four days after our sun dance.
And then 19 generations ago, white buffalo calf woman when she brought the sacred pipe was when the cherries were were ripe and that was in the month of August and that's when this white buffalo calf was born.
From 19 generations later, the same month and four days after a sacred ceremony and four years after a whole nation did a ceremony, all came to this one time and that's when this white buffalo calf was born.
And then from there, within four years, four white buffalo calves were born.
I had, I should tell you, I had four Hopi elders on my show.
And actually two that were on the air.
And these Hopi elders, Chief, told me that they see changes, big earth changes coming.
And the reason they came on the air is because they think they can no longer be avoided, that these changes are coming on our world, and there is virtually there's nothing we can do to stop them.
What do you think will happen if we do not take the correct spiritual path, and it sounds like pretty soon, if these changes, which have already really begun, the Hopi Elders said.
My first statement, 1996, this World Peace and Friday, I stated that we are at the crossroads.
Either we're faced with chaos, disasters, sickness, and tears from our relatives' eyes, or on the other hand, we're going to see people uniting spiritually and respecting each other's ways and cultures.
So give that responsibility back to the people.
Because as people of prayer, we are the key to the next millennium.
We are who we are as caretakers of Mother Earth.
That's what I believe in, and that's what this World Peace and Prayer Day is all about.
According to, we just related the prophecies, and it goes back to that for myself.
I refer back to the World Peace and Prayer Day.
But like other nations, they made statements, but going back to similar things that I've been saying, like going back to respecting Mother Earth and prayers.
Yeah, it's get the people and our children to be aware of what's happening globally.
What is prophecy if nothing happens, if everything continues the way it is now, and we continue to reject any thought about the Earth that we live on, and we just continue to abuse it, what will happen?
According to our prophecies, there's many stories.
We have many prophecies.
And some of them I would kind of relate to you.
For one is that there's a black cloud coming and it's going to envelope us.
And we have, when people are starting to dream about the black cloud, and when this we feel that it's going to it's in the air and and it's something that everybody can feel it's um it has to do with uh chemicals and
That's what it's going to, according to some of these elders that have been talking about this, that the people that are not in tune with themselves, are not in tune with their prayers, they're not in tune with themselves as like mind, body, and spirit.
And then their minds are going to go crazy.
And so they have to have this belief and then they would survive that time.
So that's what, that's one of them.
But we have so many, like we talked about the prophecies, a lot of our, like the spiritual people, back in, we say over a hundred years ago when people kept the word.
That means to us it's over a hundred years ago.
And there were leaders like Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, and some of the people, Chief Bigfoot, talked about a time when once again, you know, people would come back to unite spiritually.
And starting from 1990.
But we'll be, there'll be so much on our shoulders because that our spiritual, we'll be weak spiritually.
You know, that's already, if you look at, at, at our society, both Native American and every other society right now in our country, they are doing that.
Yeah, it is, uh, and that you know, it's so powerful to like uh when you start to when you make uh these ceremonies and uh and start to work with people, you're going to really understand uh how much uh there is that we have to take on as spiritual people.
Well, first of all, I want to say that I'd like to thank the radio station, too, for allowing us to be here.
And we don't go by our time.
We go by the ceremonies and we have our own way with these prophecies.
And it's going to say this here or that time.
I guess what I'm saying is like they said in the seventh generation.
And our prophecy was told that the young people, that we would, we as the sixth generation, we would help the seventh generation, which is our children, from seventh generation starts 1990.
And we would help them become more stronger in their belief and culture and tradition.
So we would help them stand up and understand what it could be, you know, like just speaking with many other cultures and nations.
They're saying there's going to be some great changes that is going to happen by the year 2015 or.
Anyway, to us, we know that there's going to be some great changes that is coming.
We talked about the current generation of young people.
And I don't know about the Native American nations.
You can tell me about the Lakota, but I can tell you about our cities and about the problem we are having now with young people.
It seems like older people are perhaps the crime rate is going down a little bit, things look perhaps a little bit better in some ways.
Unfortunately, though, one area where there's no progress and where we're having terrible trouble is with our young people, many of them who seem, Christians would say, to have no soul or almost have no spirit, and they don't care about life.
They don't care about their life, and they don't care about anybody else's life.
Is this the generation that we should be worried about, that we're talking about?
The time that we are in, there's a lot upon our shoulders.
That means we're going to, because that we have lost our boundaries, we have lost our ways of communicating.
And therefore, we, as a spirit, we have allowed something to, we didn't use excuses or blame people.
A lot of it is our own fault here.
And for our children, we push them out.
And according to the teachings of the buffalo, according to the way that we nourish our children through love and compassion, is that the mother has to nurse that child and show that love and compassion.
Now, I don't understand because the whole idea of reservations, good or bad, probably bad, was that your nation would be able to do, have autonomy and do what it wanted to do within that reservation, within that area.
I don't want to have the argument now about whether reservations were good or bad, but wasn't that the whole idea?
Because the white man in America believes that he fought a war to have independence for religious freedom and then came across this nation and took away your religious freedom.
All of a sudden, no, here we are in 1978 and now, you guys can do ceremonies, you guys can do sundance, and all of a sudden we have so many medicine people, we have so many spiritual leaders that are going out there and making money off our ways.
That's abuse.
It's misuse and abuse of our ways.
And there's no way that a traditional spiritual person would charge for ceremonies.
I'm going to ask some really dumb questions, I'm afraid, but I want to ask about the sundance.
I had a thought in my mind that the sun dance means that you actually put something through the skin, skewering the skin, staring at the sun, dancing for days as a self-sacrifice.
A sun dance is you commit yourself to the sun dance and you're going to dance four days from sun up to sundown and you're going to have some breaks to sit down and then you stand up and dance.
You're going to the sacred altar and dance again.
And on the fourth day, that's when we have the piercing round where the puppet pull the skin out and give themselves to the Creator.
So they cut them a little bit, then they put that skier in there, then they stand up and then they dance four times to the tree.
And on the fourth one, they break away from the tree.
So that's what the sun dance is about.
It's giving yourself to the tree of life so your people would live.
That's what the sun dance.
So it's a, then the women, they come in and dance on the side.
And that's what the sun dance is.
You know, you watch the sun and you have an electron dance all day from sunup to sundown.
No water, no food.
Like the vision quest, you go on the hill for four days for no water and no food.
That's fasting.
And the sundance is the same.
And that's what the sundancers are saying today, that the sun is different.
I talk on my radio program many times about things that most people don't understand and wonder about, the powers that we might have as spiritual beings.
And we tried some experiments because I have many millions of people listening to me in New York City and Los Angeles and San Francisco and Chicago and all the big cities across America.
And I asked people to try to bring rain, rain, to an area that had no rain.
And we did this, Chief, four times.
And four times, four times, rain came to these areas.
And I will tell you the truth when I tell you, it scared me.
And I stopped doing it.
And I said, I have to stop doing this for a while and think about what it means.
Like there's a lot of people having dreams and visions, but they don't understand because in the past or the way that we are going, we are pushing and we're doing that to our children.
You know, some comments made, you know, the sundance, you know, it's not that bad.
It's not like these people who are out there who are doing these snake things, you know, these churches with the snakes and stuff.
Yeah.
Where they die and stuff.
Sundance does not do that.
You know?
And people out there who are listening shouldn't criticize Indians for doing the sundance, you know, when there's churches out there that are doing these, you know, things with the snake, you know, because it's in the Bible.
Actually, you know, they do those things back in the part of the country you're in now.
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Yeah.
And, you know, and that's just not right, you know.
And yeah, there are, you know, I was raised with a stepdad that was white, you know, and I wasn't able to learn the Lakota language, and I would like to, you know.
But I am learning the Lakota ways, and it's all true, you know.
I lost my little boy, and I know he's up there with the Great Spirit, you know.
That's right, because I was right east of Chicago about two days ago, and the rain was heavy, that it was raining so heavy, and they had lightning and thundering.
I'm not surprised because that's what a lot of people are having and there's like before these white buffalo calves were born, we have a lot of people all across Turtle Island.
Well, I think there was a day when many people paid attention to the dreams and visions they had, and not so many people pay attention today.
They just, you know, they wake up and they have their cup of coffee and they go to work and they forget all about it very quickly and they don't consider what their unconscious is trying to tell them, do they?
My question is, it's really good that you've just been speaking again about the dreams of the Black Clouds, and you had been speaking earlier about that being a part of your prophecies.
Now, I'm here to, I guess, bring in the other side of the coin.
That is about the possible outcomes, the positive possible outcomes.
And I'm wondering if there are any of those that tie as well into the prophecies depending on the choices that we make, because, yes, of course, as a collective consciousness and also as individual conscious light beings, we are creating our reality, as you were saying earlier, Art.
And I believe and have been a witness to a lot of, I guess you could say, products of the light.
And I have great faith in where this planet is going.
It's come through in dreams.
It's come through in just daily flashes as well, too.
I'm a student of the psychic arts and the healing arts as well.
And I work very much on the light side of things.
So I wanted to know if there was also some positivity you can bring with us, because as much chaos and destruction is going on, an equal amount of joy and happiness is.
But I think the question for all of us is whether there's enough, whether there's enough balance to make things come out the way you and I and the chief hope they come out, pray they come out.
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Well, if I may, Art, I haven't told you my name, and I won't.
This isn't the time for it.
I don't mean to sound all mysterious and enigmatic, but I know also there will be a time when I will talk to you at great length about some messages that I have to pass on.
That's part of what I'm here to do.
And I just really wanted to bring up that side of it because I believe that our perspectives, I mean, our thoughts are the very seed of what we manifest.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Chief Arville looking horse.
Hello.
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Hello.
Calling from Butler, Pennsylvania.
Love your show.
Just picked it up yesterday, in fact.
And I've really found it educational in all aspects.
Similarly, on the subject matter of just like Indian culture, I saw this movie called The Education of Littletree.
And it pretty much takes place in Tennessee post-depression times.
And it basically goes into showing how America robbed the Indians of their rights, of freedom of their nativeness and all the culture that they practiced prior to our coming.
It robbed them of their names.
They had to take American names and they weren't allowed to speak any of their tongue or anything along those lines.
And it was just very disheartening to see that that was done at such an early age to this little child that he overcame the great evil.
That's all I really wanted to say, and I love your show.
And I hope it prospers with this word of peace, you know, because the world really needs it.
Chief, my question from that call would be, why do you think when the reservations were created that the white man who fought his own war because of religion forbid why did the white men forbid your ceremonial because it's something that they can't
And that's where we are the strongest, we believe in our ceremonies and communicating to the Great Spirit through the ceremonies.
And that's why when you don't understand something, it's very hard to take and that's why they outlawed our ceremonies.
like uh back in 1890 that's what the last of the cold wars that's what uh that's when they outlawed our ceremonies because they like the what they were um they were in ceremonies and they they saw wounded knee happen.
Did you guys know we had about 20 plus inches of snow?
And that was a record.
I think the last big snow we had was like in 79.
But anyway, I believe that the weather patterns are changing.
My question that tonight for Chief Looking Horse was basically, there's a lot of hype and hysteria and a lot of psychics out there, I guess, predicting what's going to happen on 2000, January 1st.
I have my own feelings in that and beliefs and belief systems in that.
My question for the chief was, what can we do as individuals by thinking locally, you know, first and then acting globally?
What can we do spiritually?
Because I believe in prayer and I believe in spirits and that they're all around us.
There's good and evil spirits.
I believe it's very strong.
It's a very strong force that needs to be taught maybe more, maybe by yourself or others.
But what can we do as individuals to maybe safeguard or somehow try to protect our way of life as we know it?
That's what we've been asking people to on June 21st.
We need to work towards a day of peace, a day, and I hope June 21st is recognized as international holiday because we need such a day in our lives to um that when uh who uh we as people can create that energy to um when we can uh stay with our children and
with our families and bring that peace into our lives.
Well, you know, to many people, this sounds like maybe you're talking about magic or something really strange, but it doesn't sound that way to me, Chief, because I've seen it work.
I've seen it happen.
So I can imagine that you are right.
Listen, I have one more hour.
If you would like to stay or if you feel like you need to get to bed, I can do that, too.
please limit your faxes to one or two pages this is coast to coast a.m with art bell now again here's art you really should know who you're hearing this night he is chief arville looking horse he is the uh spiritual leader of the lakota and i'm going to have to try and understand uh i would think that these others and
and dakota are part of the lacota nation will ask about that in a moment at any rate in between if you have questions for him we're happy to uh...
accommodate you can get through on the lines so everybody's stay right where you are uh...
let us now go back to uh...
chief arville looking horse and uh...
here he is again chief welcome back oakler uh...
getting pretty late though where you are there i guess huh uh...
do you have you in the past talked uh...
to people all over the nation america canada and and and in fact worldwide have you had this opportunity before on the radio yes yes kid are these the same kinds of questions that you get yeah i do about the same questions in uh...
And Chief, it's an honor to speak to you mostly just because my great-great-great-grandmother was a daughter of Sitting Bull.
And to comment, I would just like to make, earlier you were speaking about the balance, and it seems like there are many more people or spirits on the planet that are confused and aren't aware, and not enough of those that are aware to make a difference.
And my comment is that one strong warrior can overcome many weak warriors is not numbers that are important, but because the strength of one can overcome many.
Yeah, we are like we still have our ceremonies in the circle, and we, every time, like that's what we talk about, just healing our families hoop and the hoop of the nation, and we all like there's no one person higher than the other in the circle.
I'll support each other and create that energy, that love and compassion.
Some of our people today still on today they use peyote, but I would not say talk about that because that's that today we have so many of our people praying a lot of different ways and whatever they believe in, that's their choice.
Yes, actually, I meant the question in no negative way.
As a matter of fact, I've had many guests who are spiritual, who say there are many, many paths, there are many ways to become spiritual, and that is one of them.
The use of that type of a natural substance, peyote, mesculine, whatever.
Well, today we have our traditional laws and our ways and our culture, which I am part of, and then there's the tribal government, and then we have the state government, and then we have the U.S. government.
But we have to know all the laws, too, that obtains our people.
Art, I just want to let you know you have my prayers and your laws.
Thank you.
And Chief Lookinghorse, I have a personal question and then a more general question.
But I'm 43 now and I lived in South Dakota for 30 years.
I was born there and South Central near the Rosebud Reservation.
And I was there during the American Indian Movement, you know, all the violence and stuff that was going on.
And I'm Caucasian and I felt a lot of fear at that time.
And I just want you to know that I respect and admire what the Native Americans have done and their spiritual strength to let go of all the anger and resentment.
Because I know that had to be really difficult.
And so I think you can be a good example for all of us with all the racism that's going on.
And then I want a personal question.
Did you know a man, an old man now, by the name of John Fire?
My grandmother used to have a dairy queen on Highway 18 in Gregory, and he used to paint the murals, and they were just beautiful on her teepee on top of her dairy queen.
Anyway, okay, and then I get homesick sometimes.
One of my questions is, I have two questions.
One is, how do we let go of, I've been working on my own spirituality for a couple years now, and how do we let go of, sometimes I get just overwhelmed with feelings of fear about the future, and I wondered, how can we let go of that?
And then my second question is, how do we know where the sacred areas are?
When we're going back into ceremonies, and like here in the Dakotas, we have a lot of our biggest place, the most sacred place is the sacred Black Hills.
The whole sacred Black Hills is sacred.
And it's, we say, heart of everything that is.
That's where people came from and the whole Black Hills.
Like today, they have pictures of the Black Hills, the four seasons, and when they fast forward, the four seasons was a heart that was pumping.
And that's why these elders told about the stories.
Yeah, so then we have these other sacred places where the Thunder people, they come and leave their markings on these stones, these sacred places, and we take that into the ceremonies and we would know what is going to happen or where your relatives and ancestors are buried.
One of the managers was, I guess, a fan of mine, and he took me around the Denver airport, and I asked him about this.
And, you know, it was private, and he didn't have to tell me anything.
And he said, a lot of what you hear about the airport is true.
A lot of the strange things that have happened, I admit to you, are true.
So I was quite surprised.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Chief Arville Looking Horse.
Hi.
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Hi.
I'm Art.
I just have a quick platitude, perhaps.
It depends how you take it.
When I heard about your friend passing, at first I felt deep sadness for your loss.
I know how that feels.
But at the time, I happened to be reading a wonderful spiritual book, and perhaps something that I saw in that may help you a little bit, if I may.
It seems that we are all unique and very creative manifestations of the one Creator, and we are each of us put here for a purpose.
Sometimes we know it, sometimes we don't.
And yet, when we have done our purpose here, whatever that may be, we get to go back to the Creator with what we've learned here as well, to continue and share that energy.
So in that way, your friend really is just going on to the next step of his purpose.
And in that way, I feel happy for him, though I realize you have a longing.
And so in that way, I just wanted to share that with you.
And you certainly are a blessing to us community of insomniacs out here.
And I also, my heart, excuse me, my heart pounds strong and fast with the joy of the honor to be able to speak with you this evening, Chief Looking Horse, and even more so to be able to listen to you.
I learn a lot more with my mouth closed and my ears open.
My name is Mike, and I'm calling from the southern shore of Lake Ontario in upstate New York in the center of the traditional homeland of the Iroquois or Haudenosaunee.
And I feel blessed to be here.
I will try to be succinct.
I realize I'm running on.
This is such an honor.
My comment, I have a comment or two very briefly and I would like to ask Chief for your thoughts or comments if you feel so called to do so.
I'm 31 years old and in the last few years I've gone through major struggles as a recovering addict and a big part of that is reconnecting with spirit, with spirituality.
And I had been getting nowhere for a long time until about a year and a half ago a friend invited me to the Sacred Lodge, to Sweat Lodge, at which time things started to become very much more clear.
And it was with a wonderful fellow named Tao Dakwe at a place called Aquahewe up near Niagara Falls.
And once there, I spent some wonderful time, including last June 21st.
We had a wonderful time and we will be there again this year.
And that is part of what I'd like to ask you to comment on is what specific things in a spiritual sense or a ritual sense could you suggest or would you suggest we can do as groups to direct our prayers and our energies on Peace Prayer Day?
That's when a lot of the elders, when I took tobacco to not only me, but when we took the tobacco to the elders of many nations, they said that June 21st is a day.
That's when this energy shift, when that's when they feel the most, that feel very good on that day.
We have Catholics, we have Protestants, we have Baptists, we have Hindus, we have Native Americans like yourself, we have so many people who believe so many things and all of them think they are the right path and some think they are the only path.
Yeah, I just respect that everybody is spiritual in their own way and I believe that and so I know that when you believe in something, it'll work for you.
And I would tell everybody we have a link on our website right now to Chief Arville Looking Horse's website regarding the World Prayer Day on June 21st.
And I would be the last person in the world to say this wouldn't work because I've seen it happen myself.
So anything is worth a try, and I would encourage you all to do some reading about this.
And maybe we really all can together do something.
You don't want to go down without trying, at least.
So take a look at the website.
East of the Rockies, you're on there with Chief Arville Looking Horse.
First off, Chief Looking Horse Sheil, welcome to the program.
I'm of Cherokee descent.
I guess to coin Art's phrase, I'm another one of the lost children.
I never had the opportunity to grow up with full knowledge of my own culture.
I'm married to Anishinaabe from Minnesota, and we both are kind of in the same boat here.
What I wanted to ask you was, I have been a spiritual seeker ever since I was very, very young, about maybe three or four years old, and I do remember that far back, and I was definitely even searching then.
It seems that whenever I have needed an answer, I have gotten that answer in one form or another.
Sometimes I was made to wait for weeks, days, even years, and then all of a sudden the answers would come to me.
My problem here is that in the past few years, I feel like I've come to a stalemate.
And a few years ago, about, well, more than a few, about 10 years ago, I started just getting this real urge, this real tug to go to a certain geographical location.
And I've never been able to get there.
And I'm wondering if maybe the two things might have to do with each other.
And why in the world would one come to such a spiritual dead end for three or four years and never and not be able to go any farther?
And I'm wondering, might this have something to do with the times also?
And we have that belief where it doesn't, yeah, we as individuals, we have our ups and downs, but the ceremonies Are always constant and the teachings is always there.
So that in that way, we always we know that we that these sacred ceremonies and sacred sites and it's for us and we hold a lot of respect to the sacred pipe.
That's what this World Peace and Parity is about, June 21st.
And we have a lot of, like on our website, there's a place where people are having these gatherings from East Coast to West Coast and all over the world that people can go to.
And that's what they're calling in to get connected.
And see, like where I live at, on the reservation I live on, we fall under, we have our own tribal laws, we have our, then we fall under the federal laws, but we have to deal with the state laws in that accord too with a lot of the non-Indians that live here.
So it's a big, kind of a big mess.
One of the other comments I had is in regards to the kids.
I heard that was mentioned as being called like lost souls.
And in that sense, I do believe it's that way.
I think you can look at all the kids around and you see that as far as the Indian kids here, it's like they're lost.
They don't have any understanding of what our traditions, our culture, and a loss of respect for those that are trying to teach it.
When our parents were growing up, they were forced not to be able to talk and practice at that time.
And I know I have that own feeling as, you know, I'm learning a lot of it right now, but it's really hard for the kids my age when we were growing up that didn't have that.
As far as, you know, I think it's something that's going across the nation, not only on the reservations, but in the cities and around in the area of, you know, where there's a lot of people looking for ways, and then there's those that just don't know how to find their way.
His name is Motti Church, Director of Native Ministries, North Pacific and Canada.
And I wanted to ask you, you mentioned the vision of Crazy Horse, and he has presented this here in a kind of concise way.
And I want to get your opinion about this.
He said the visions of Crazy Horse of the Ogallala were well known during his lifetime, but many non-natives know nothing of this prediction that the Creator would come to Earth and cleanse and recreate it.
And then in 1995, Crazy Horse's great-grandson began having dreams in which he was told that those prophecies were about to be fulfilled.
Now, for centuries, the Sioux and the Cheyenne, or actually we should say the Lakota and the Cheyenne, have passed down a prediction that the Creator will return to the earth to renew the earth and heal all who are sick and restore the peace and harmony.
And the sign that this is about to take place will be the birth of a white buffalo.
And for centuries there was no white buffalo, and now in the past three years or so we've had a lot more than one.
And also on the same subject, there's an Eskimo by the name of Manilak who lived long before the arrival of white man and the Bible and predicted that the day would come when the Creator would return to the skies with glory much greater than the splendor of the northern lights.
And Manilak taught that the Creator's return would be seen by all people around the globe and that he, and when he returned, he would recreate a land of peace in which people would live forever without sickness or death.
And before that day came, he taught that people would actually travel from place to place through the air with great speed and boats loaded with supplies would skim across the water.
And I just wondered now with those, now his records, the records of all of his prophecies are recorded in the Northern History Books and Old Ledgers of the Hudson Bay Trading Company.
And I just wondered, Chief Huckinghorse, if you had an account of that or how that fits in with what you believe.
Orville, I saw you down in Olympia, and I'm a painter.
I'm an artist, and I painted a picture of the white buffalo calf woman, which I gave to you.
I started having visions when I was about eight years old, and I started painting then.
And I've constantly been upholding that possibility of the white buffalo calf spirit to return.
And I put you in my circle of prayers, and I want to really thank you for that position you're holding, that pipe that you're carrying, and the responsibility that you walk with every day.
And I really, like, I just want to thank you for that.
The other thing I wanted to know about, which I was wondering about, is there's 29 holidays in this country, and there's yet one that honor my grandmother and grandfather's.
Like, there's Martin Luther King Day, there's Christian holidays, but there's yet to honor our people.
And I wonder about the spirit of place, about the soul of America, if we can make a ceremony where people of other peoples, because the Creed prophecy from my father's people says that when the earth is ravaged and the plants and animals are suffering, a tribe of people from all colors and creeds will come together and make the land green again.
And I wonder if this is an opportunity for us to create a ceremony because it's a way to educate the masses.
I was showing in Paris in 1995 and I was at the Museum des Homes and there they had a graph and they said 25 million Europeans will migrate to America by the year 2020.
I want to thank the person who sent along when I talked about ELO.
Higher and higher, baby It's a living Anyway, welcome back into the final hour of coast to coast a.m.
Either the final hour, or depending on what you get, perhaps the first hour or the second hour.
It's all getting mixed up.
This would be if you're listening tomorrow.
Now tomorrow or tonight, if you're hearing this tomorrow.
Oh, lordy, this is getting confusing.
We're going to have Lance Henriksen from Millennium in the second hour at 11 o'clock and 12 o'clock.
Matter of fact, we've got a whole line of guests actually coming up for you.
But in the second hour, we're going to be talking to a biotoxicologist.
We're going to be talking to a man about the Gulf War disease.
We're going to be talking to the man about the possibility of what we may be facing as a nation at nearly any moment.
Or maybe we've already faced it.
At any rate, there'll be a kind of continuity in Tomorrow Night's Show, which will feed into the next night's show, which will be actually after Millennium has been on.
I have a part in an episode of Millennium coming up this Friday.
In other words, tomorrow in most time zones.
And you might check your TV guide.
It's on at 8 o'clock or 9 o'clock.
I don't know.
It's on Fox.
So just check and you'll see the time and you will see me in there indeed.
But more than my being in this episode, pay attention to what the episode is about.
And then sort of put that together with what we do tomorrow night.
That's what I'm suggesting.
We'll be right back.
Yo, we've got a final hour ahead of us of complete open lines.
Anything you would like to talk about is, of course, fair game.
Fathers and men generally are exhausted, having expended all they are able for the women in their lives.
A pause in material prosperity, riches are exhausted, with some concerns over inheritances, as prominent men have passed on as a result of their strenuous efforts last week.
Laissez-Les Bonton Roulette from the city of Mobile, founding of Modi Gras here.
Yes, sir.
My birthday is on June 21st, and I've been having some terribly powerful dreams about a black sky and a red sun and a silver bird like an eagle or a falcon with midnight blue eyes.
And they've been rather disturbing.
I kind of wondered if any of your audience had some of the similar dreams or whatever.
I feel like I'm being drawn to a place, but I don't know where.
My guest was talking about visions exactly like the ones you're talking about, and so I don't have anything to offer except to say that apparently many people are having similar visions, and this has meaning.
unidentified
Right, right.
I felt drawn maybe to Stonehenge.
I'm not real sure, but maybe if some of your other audience members could call in and maybe enlighten me a little bit.
The power went out for about 45 minutes, and I thought it was like my wake-up call, because I've been listening to your show and listening to the commercials about the Bijan, and then when the lights went out, I said this time to act.
So I'm beginning to sort of conclude that Y2K could either be a catastrophic event, a non-event, or something anywhere in between.
But anybody who doesn't realize at least the possibility that they could, for example, lose basic services and begin to act in at least minimal ways to protect themselves and their families, they're out of their minds.
Well, anyway, since you somehow did it, what's on your mind?
unidentified
Okay.
I don't know if you saw it the other day, but they had here in the paper here in Philadelphia that the Fed was printing an additional $70 billion in currency.
one other thing so there's going to be some kind of massive Then there's going to have to be a massive PR campaign to calm people so that even if nothing else is wrong, we don't create our own worst nightmare.
In other words, I don't know whether there is a continued existence, of course.
unidentified
Right.
I want to say, well, two things I was thinking.
One thing that I would suggest is that I think that a lot of times, you know, you struggle for an answer, like I hear you struggling.
And I keep thinking that all you really need to do is to ask, like, consider that maybe God is there with you in your mind.
And ask God and wait for an answer.
Like, maybe you've done that already, I don't know.
But I always find that if I just, if I ask and I wait, that I can generally find out what I want to know.
I mean, it may take years, but it seems true to me that, and I mean, you know, like, it's real difficult if you figure like, you know, that you yourself or me and myself, we have to find the answer.
And I think a lot of times it's just a question of waiting and seeing what happens.
And that requires a certain amount of faith.
And in the exercise of that faith, then the answer comes if you follow my drift.
and I have never received the kind of answer you're talking about.
unidentified
Well, it doesn't exactly...
And as I say, it's taken me years to realize things, but I've said to God years ago, like, tell me what the truth is about life after death or whatever.
And I feel like for myself, I've gotten answers.
Like, for me, of course we exist.
We exist forever, each of us.
I mean, we may not, we may forget, just like we forget when we sleep, we forget what we dreamed, but here we are again.
So I think that's really all it is, Art.
And if there's a cycle to life, I think that cycle continues.
And I think it's a good cycle.
I think it's a good cycle.
And I think that one of the scariest things is that whole idea that maybe it's really a bad cycle and we don't know it.
And I think that all of us need to, you know, one of the ways to pray for the earth is to remember that things are can be put on a good cycle and they don't have to be thought of as a thing that we have to prevent the bad thing from happening.
Because the way to prevent the bad thing from happening is to understand that things can be good.
I mean, there is that hole in it, but basically, it's going to solve most of it.
unidentified
I mean, yeah, we think of a lot of sites out there that, you know, the big, you know, pay-for-porn and all that kind of stuff.
But there are a myriad of sites out there, personal home pages, links from luxury manufacturers, a number of different places that all have links to those places that wouldn't be as prominent as some of the others.
I wanted to speak about reincarnation for a moment.
Is that possible?
Yes.
A couple of years ago, I had an opportunity to study documented medical journals from India.
I've heard a couple of times on your show that people have made comments that there has been no definitive information, nothing really established information from any established source that documents actual reincarnation.
But in India, medical journals, very highly acclaimed doctors, have done extensive medical journals of cases of reincarnation of children two, three years old who have complete memory of past lives in which they go and they check out the past lives because the wife and children is still alive.
There have been actually also children coming out of the womb, speaking multiple languages right out of the womb.
And as far as I'm concerned, I studied scores and scores of it.
But that is why I am so concerned about our present path.
Because most of the actions of today, and I'm afraid, tomorrow, are in the negative column.
And it better be true that a few people concentrating on something good can have a lot more power than what I see going on right now spiritually in the world.
Otherwise, as I told an earlier caller, we're toasts.
unidentified
Well, Lord, the light of one small candle casts away much darkness.
And when the light of the sun comes up, there's no room for the darkness.
It catches and dispels the darkness.
And it's completely true that ten people of power, the full force, or even one individual of extreme powerful force, can override a million negative forces.
I truly believe that.
To me, it's factual.
I wanted to ask you one question before you cut me off.
I know you get tons and tons of mail.
This is Armadeus, and I just wanted to know if you received my package that I sent you.
Yeah, and they do that because that elevates the soul.
I had read some stuff.
When John Lennon passed away, there was a great outpouring of love throughout the world.
And I had read some stuff a week after he passed away.
Now, I don't know if it's real or not, but it seemed very real.
It was channeled material.
And I'm neither here nor there with channeled material either.
But in it, he gave specific messages to specific people.
And he said, if it was Lenin actually channeling, he said that because of the outpouring of love throughout the world, he found himself in such an incredible space of being basically omnipresent and everywhere all at one time.
And it was overwhelming to him.
And that was because of the love that was put out.
Well, I don't think it works very well because the domains are not separated.
unidentified
Yeah, that's the problem.
As you said, you get all these personal websites and things like that.
But I think the XXX idea would definitely work.
It would definitely make things easier.
The newsgroups and the FTP sites, well, chances are that if you have children in the house, I don't think that if you don't want them to have access to newsgroups, you can simply not install a newsgroup program on your system or password protect it, in my opinion.
As far as FTP sites go, usually they're just IP addresses.
And I'll tell you what, some of the response I've had is, well, the government would keep special watch on the XX domains.
But I don't think so.
Not any more than they do now.
If the government wants to look at a certain site on the internet, you know damn well they do it.
Right?
And there are so many triple X sites that I think they would have no more interest in monitoring the activities of these sites than they have presently.
That isn't to say they don't have interest.
I just don't think that it would dramatically increase or change in any way if there was a triple X domain.
Think I almost got through an entire night without interrupting myself, and then at the last possible moment, did myself in.
And they said, well, this has already been thought of, and the problem is that you would have to be so close to the source of the sun, the light, the heat, that nothing we know of now could withstand it.
The program is ending, sir, and we don't have time anyway to finish this.
The man has an idea which may have merit.
I really don't know.
When he said it the first time, I thought it had merit, and I still do.
Now, the criticism was that whatever it was would have to be too close to the sun.
He's essentially talking about a filter, something that would filter sunlight, just in case we really get into trouble with the ozone, which we could be doing at the moment.