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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Psychic Joseph DeLouise
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Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 11, 1999.
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, or good morning, as the case may be, and welcome to a brand new week.
I'm Art Bell, and from the Tahitian Islands, the Hawaiian Islands out west, eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S.
Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the pole and worldwide on the Internet, courtesy of Broadcast.com and the geniuses in Dallas.
Thank you, Broadcast.com.
This, of course, is Post Coast AM.
And I'm Art Bell.
And it's going to be an interesting night, to be sure.
In the next hour, we're going to interview Joseph DeLuise.
In 1997, American Woman magazine named him as one of the country's top ten psychics.
That doesn't mean we do readings.
I never do readings for people.
But in terms of predictive capability on major events, and a discussion of what it is that psychics do in the first place, Joseph DeLuise is one of the nation's best, and we'll have him on here and see how he does what he does.
Well, as you know, or just heard, last week we had Joseph Firmage on, and I do believe we were the first.
And lo and behold, the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper uh... which boasts right there below the title northern california's largest newspaper had on its front page of the uh... headline silicon wizard quits over u f all views technology gift of alien ceo believes uh... mister permit of course is a very articulate uh... gentleman as you found out on the program the other evening
He is complaining with good cause about the media.
Welcome to the world, Joseph.
I've been complaining for a long time about the media.
I've dealt with them and I found that about most of the time they don't report things accurately.
Or they report them the way they want them to read.
You know, and in the case of the Furmage story, they're just going to have a field day and the best thing that he can do is to get into the broadcast media, as in my program, as in wherever else he might appear, and tell his story without censorship, without agenda-driven editing, and all that kind of thing.
So he's welcome back here any time he would like.
Now, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!
On my website, Two really incredible, and I mean incredible photographs.
Both of them sent to me and put on the website within the last hour or two.
A photograph number one is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life.
It was taken at an air show.
You know, where they show off.
And it caught a phantom jet breaking the sound barrier just above ground level.
The photographer caught that one in a million shot of the very instant that this phantom went through the sound barrier at an air show.
And I have never in my life seen a photograph like it, never.
And this is one you're going to want to go look at and put into your collection of holy smokes kind of pictures.
That's picture number one.
A phantom breaking the... and you can see the displacement of the air.
It's incredible, actually.
So, you've got to see that.
You've got to see it.
And then the second photograph is kind of a question mark.
This one's sent by somebody who says that they believe it is an actual photograph of an Air Force tunneling machine.
Why Air Force?
I don't know.
But it does look like a tunneling machine.
Now, I'm not saying that it is a tunneling machine.
I'm saying that that's what the person who sent it to me said.
And I've got to agree, it kind of looks like it.
Now, it could be some rocket test motor or something, but it's right there against the mountain.
It's really... We're going to have to get some of you who know what you're seeing to look at this and tell me what it is, but if it is a tunneling machine, I'll tell you what, it looks like something out of Journey to the Center of the Earth.
And, of course, many of us wonder if the Taos Hum and other hums, things heard vibrating the Earth, are not somebody's machine, just like the one in this photograph.
Now, that's an amazing photograph.
You take a look and you tell me, you tell me what it is.
Now, let's examine The regular World O' News, alright?
What is the lead item, would you guess?
Probably the impeachment and trial coming trial of the President, right?
Wrong.
It is Bulls Jordan to retire, Chicago.
Michael Jordan, regarded as the greatest player in NBA history, will announce his retirement from the Chicago Bulls on Wednesday.
That's the lead story.
And while Michael Jordan, indeed, certainly, I think he has been the best player in the NBA, not that I'm a basketball fan.
I'm not sure it ranks above the impeachment of the President of the U.S., but, well, anyway.
As Senators prepare for Thursday's barrage of opening arguments in the impeachment trial, The President and House Republicans presented documents outlining radically different views of the case.
Now, the only questions I have are... Will they call witnesses?
Will we hear Monica and Bill?
And, will this all be broadcast or not?
If it is broadcast, what kind of ratings will it get?
Pretty high, I suspect.
Pressure to broadcast?
Pretty high, I suspect.
And from the AP itself, last year, they affirm, was the hottest year on record, according to NASA.
Who says, rising temperatures are evidence that the world is heating up.
Wow, what a surprise.
So they finally, officially announced that.
In my old alma mater, Okay, and I in Anchorage, I have received message after message, and then the Anchorage Daily News printed the following, a brilliant flash, an earth-shaking boom, noticed by thousands of Alaskans late Friday.
As a matter of fact, I broke into a very important show we were doing, and gave you those messages as they began to come in.
Guess what?
It was either a meteor?
Well, they don't know.
They always say a meteor when they don't know.
Donald Martins, an astronomy professor at the University of Alaska Anchorage, wasn't lucky enough to see the object that streaked blue, green, and red across the south-central Alaskan sky, but based on witness counts, Martins and other scientists believe the flash came from a meteor or comet fragment or comet fragment probably the size of a pumpkin that exploded about 50 miles above the earth's surface now there is one thing 50 miles now that that must be some explosion because they recorded a 2.2 magnitude earthquake huh now
Did they record a real earthquake?
Or did they record the shockwave produced by the explosion?
And why are we to believe that it is a meteor?
Hmm?
And I wonder what kind of kilotonnage they would assign to an explosion of this size.
Yeah, kilotonnage.
Very, very, very interesting.
The Bering Sea changes are baffling scientists.
Seems white-sided dolphins, just one sign of an unusual change in the Bering Sea.
Marine biologists there are now puzzled by a series of abby normal conditions which have affected the Bering Sea between Alaska and Siberia during the last two summers.
Now listen, the changes observed include extreme die-offs of seabirds, Rare algae blooms, abnormally warm water temperatures, and very low numbers of salmon.
Almost half of the USA's fish comes from the Bering Sea.
You know, a lot of people sit out there and say, oh, who cares?
About half of the fish we eat come from the Bering Sea.
The commercial value of a catch is about a billion dollars a year, so this is non-trivial matter.
The cause, no matter what you may have heard, of a virus that killed six greyhounds at a dog track in St.
Petersburg, Florida, remains a mystery.
They don't know what it is.
They call it coughing sickness, but six dogs are dead, four others are critically ill, and all they can say is there is clearly something else happening to these dogs.
That's not interesting.
What do you suppose that might be?
And then somebody sent me this.
No, I hadn't heard it, or only rumors of it aren't, but check this out.
Libertarians blast Congress for spending $23 million to develop an anti-drug killer fungus.
The U.S.
government is spending $23 million To develop a killer fungus to wipe out marijuana plants.
A dangerous plan that could cause an environmental catastrophe, said the Libertarian Party today.
This project is the political equivalent of athlete's foot fungus.
It's nasty, dangerous, needs to be stopped before it spreads, said the Libertarian National Director Last thing we need is a bioengineered killer fungus loose on the world.
What do I agree with that?
So they're going to try to make a fungus to kill marijuana.
To murder marijuana where it sits in the fields in the various little cubby holes where it's being grown in Kentucky and Tennessee where the farmers grow.
California where everybody grows it.
Now, one more thing.
This is simply labeled an interesting concept.
I think I'll do this after the break.
It is an interesting concept.
It's one I had years ago.
uh... people who have listened for a long time will certainly recognize what
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We've got Robert in Houston.
There's this lady that I've seen about four or five times in my lifetime.
She's tall and skinny.
She's got on some tight blue jeans, some Indian moccasins.
She's got on a rainbow striped poncho and a little flop hat.
I saw this woman when I was about eight or nine.
I saw her again.
I was living in Dallas, Texas.
I was on the bus and she was standing outside.
Did she look like she aged?
No.
And here's the crazy thing.
About five years ago, Me and two of my brothers, we all went on a cruise to St.
Thomas down at the very top.
Oh, no, don't tell me.
We got on one of these little jitney buses.
And my brother, he said, see that lady over there?
I said, we saw that lady in Jacksonville.
Last November, my brother died.
He had surgery.
He had woke up.
He was getting ready to eat his breakfast and everything.
And he said, oh.
He said, I gotta get off the phone.
He said, I got company.
He said, you know the lady we saw down in St.
Thomas?
I said, she's sitting over there in the chair.
He said, let me talk to her and I'll call you back.
Fifteen minutes later, my niece called back.
He was dead.
He's dead.
She was dead.
Great story.
Now, we take you back to the night of January 11th, 1999, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
Now, one more little item here.
Remember how I've always said that the cycle of life seems wrong to me?
That it's always seemed to me that you should not be born, have a carefree childhood, become a young adult, then an adult, then an old person, then die.
That it seems to me a proper sequence would be exactly the reverse of that.
And somebody has actually written it up in an email entitled, An Interesting Concept.
And it echoes what I've been saying all these years.
Here it is.
An interesting concept.
The most unfair thing about life is the way it ends.
I mean, life is tough.
It takes up a lot of your time.
And what do you get at the end of it?
Death.
What's that?
A bonus?
I think the life cycle is all backwards.
You should die first.
Get it out of the way.
Then you live first in an old age home.
Then you're kicked out when you're too young.
You get a gold watch.
You go to work.
You work, oh, forty years.
Until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement.
Ah, key phrase.
Until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement.
You do drugs, alcohol, party.
You get ready for high school.
You go to grade school.
You become a kid.
You play.
You have no responsibilities.
You finally become a little baby.
Go back into the womb.
Spend your last nine months floating.
and finish the whole thing off as an orgasm uh... so eloquence
I'm going to have to keep this one.
But that does somehow make more sense to me.
All right, to the phones.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Art, man, I've been trying to get ahold of you for a long time.
Well, now you have me.
Where are you?
I'm in, sadly, Omaha, Nebraska.
Why are you sad about it?
Let's not go into that.
All right.
What you were just talking about, I called for another reason, but what you were just talking about amazes me because so often I hear you talking about something that has affected me in one way or another.
Which one was that?
Well, you're talking about the progression of life.
Oh, yes, yes.
Keep in mind, please, I do have something else I want to say, but I was just wondering if this might not explain Deja Vu, that perhaps we are going in that direction.
We just haven't explained time properly enough.
Well, yes, but there are unmistakable signs that we do progress from young to old.
You know, the grayness, the disintegration of organs, that sort of thing.
The real reason I called... Yes?
Oh, dude, I'd say about 15, 16 years ago, I was contemplating numerology and the number 666.
Yes.
The old days, I guess, I don't know what the old days are, way back when.
All you've got to do is read the Bible, it'll tell you.
Well, one letter at a time.
I mean, there's three letters in the word.
And fox comes up.
Fox?
Yes, 666.
When you combine, I mean, fox is what, the sixth letter?
Always like, uh, I forget how far that is, but, it did, it transgresses down to six.
Alright, well see, now that's too much of a leap for me, I appreciate your call, but, um, you can't, it seems to me just one letter is six, I mean if you assign, I mean number, if you assign a number to each letter of the alphabet, it's three sixes.
Right?
But we know what it really is, don't we?
All you have to do is read.
Alright, we'll take a break here at the bottom of the hour and come back and do more of, well, who knows what.
I'm Art Bell, this is Coast to Coast.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM, from January 11, 1999.
Oh baby, don't leave me this way, no.
Baby, don't leave me this way, no I can't accept
I'll surely miss your tender kiss But don't leave me this way.
Baby!
My heart is full of love and delight for you.
Now come down and do what you gotta do.
You started this fire down in my soul.
Now can't you see it's burning out of control?
Come on, Jasper, let's eat it!
listening to Ark Bells Somewhere In Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 11, 1999.
Well, this is sort of an interesting story, I think.
Childless couples now, in America, are placing advertisements in newspapers serving Ivy League universities all in the hopes that a female student We'll sell them eggs, likely to produce highly intelligent babies.
Gone now are the days when childless couples simply want a baby, any baby.
Now it's got to be super baby.
Now some of the advertisements are kind of interesting.
One reads, desperately seeking smart, sensitive, sunny Samaritan.
We are alumni looking for a donor match.
A lovely, light-eyed lady with a quick, sharp laugh, wit, and a lot of warmth.
A must.
Another ad states, loving and fertile couple is seeking compassionate woman, 21 to 31 years old, to help us have a baby.
It'd be wonderful if she was five feet, five inches or taller, Caucasian, slim, dark hair, intelligent, kind.
Although our gratitude cannot be measured in dollars, there's $7,500 plus expenses in it for you.
So somehow, somehow they managed to measure in dollars.
Super, baby!
That's what we're going to have now.
You know, what if it turns out, though, that those who are in Yale are not necessarily so super?
Well, I'd have to change the ad.
Sound of jet engine.
Here's what you missed on Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
Are you convinced that there are governments above governments?
Governments that we don't vote for?
Governments that are controlling presidents or prime ministers or leaders of other nations?
There's no doubt there were two governments.
There's the provisional government and the permanent government.
And that every once in a while you have a charade called an election.
Presidents come and go, but they're there, and they just keep on keeping on, as it were.
Now we take you back to the night of January 11th, 1999, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
By the way, tonight's secret numbers are 6, 4, and 2.
you That's tonight's secret numbers from Millennium Master Bell 64 M2.
You know, not just anybody out there should try and decipher what all this means.
You just shouldn't do it.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Art?
Yes.
Yeah, this is Thad from Heston, Kansas.
How you doing?
Pretty good.
I'm listening to you on KFH 1330.
Home of Dorothy.
Yes.
Yes.
Um, I just wanted to make a statement about the, about the government wanting to kill all the marijuana plants.
Yes.
Um, that statement just about brought me to tears.
Um, I think that I'm in high school and a senior and I think basically that marijuana is about as American as apple pie.
And I mean, it's the single most joyful thing that we have around here in this small town.
Besides listening to your show.
So it's according to you what Wichita, what Wichita gets through the night with.
Yeah, basically.
I see.
Well, what worries me is that they will come up with this fungal something or another and they'll go after marijuana and end up getting carrots or something.
Yeah.
Somehow you just know it's going to get out of hand.
Yeah, you know, but it might end up... I mean, think of it this way.
Didn't God put marijuana, as well as every other plant and animal, here for a reason?
Absolutely.
You know, if you're a creationist, then you've got to figure it that way.
If you're not, then nature arranged everything so-so for a certain reason.
And every time we go about changing that, as in eradicating something entirely, It's foolin' around with Mother Nature, and she's gonna kick us in the butt one of these days.
Preach it, Brother R!
Hallelujah!
Okay, well, thanks a lot.
I mean, we like your show down here in Heston and in the Wichita area, and keep up the good work.
Alright, thank you very much, and take care.
Yeah, it's just... It's Abby Normal.
It's a word I love, Abby Normal.
Abby Normal.
It's definitely Abby Normal to be Messing around with what was put here either by nature or God or both, however you want to look at it.
Marijuana has a purpose.
I don't know what it is.
But it's here for a reason.
And who are we to make judgment that it should be eradicated forever by designing a weapon to use against it?
That's not a good idea.
First time caller on the line.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
I was wondering when you were going to hear from Matt Drudge.
Well, Matt, I imagine we'll break his story when he breaks it, and I don't think he's broken it yet, and I think I know what the story is, too.
You do?
Yeah, I think I do.
I was gonna say, it's been about a couple of weeks now.
Um, what I am about to tell you is hearsay only, alright?
But I've got a message which sounds like it might be what Drudge is on to.
I'm not sure that that is true, but it might be.
There is a rumor that AIDS-tainted blood came out of Arkansas several years ago and went to Canada.
You with me?
And I think that's what he's on to.
I'm not sure, but that's my guess.
Thank you.
I've got a number of sources myself, as you might imagine, and my sources tell me That the story is that AIDS-tainted blood came out of Arkansas and went to Canada, and that there is going to be a gigantic scandal about it.
See, it's not exactly political, and that's why I thought it might fit what Matt was talking about, but it certainly would be explosive.
Anyway, I'm not sure.
That's just a That's just hearsay at this point, but I thought you might like to have my educated guess about what it is.
International Line, you're on the air.
Cheerio, good morning and all that.
Good morning, Art.
It's Dee from Vancouver calling, listening to you on 1410 FIFA.
Yes, sir.
I was actually calling you for three reasons.
Three?
Three, yeah.
All right.
I thought you'd be interested in the political cartoon that was in the province yesterday.
What pray-tell was it?
It was about the two things that Clinton is most worried about with the impeachment, the two questions on his mind.
Yes.
The first one was, will there be witnesses called?
And the second one was whether or not he could bring a date.
I knew you'd enjoy that.
And also, I was going to mention the thing with the fungal idea.
Yes.
It also sounds very, very much like what Ed Dames was talking about as well.
And that could possibly be... You are not the first to have noted that.
Yeah, I know.
Also, if that agent is currently around, and you introduce another one, the chances of those two pathogens... Some sort of unhappy mixture.
Yeah, I know.
That's what I was talking about.
I mean, we are messing in areas where We ought not be messing.
That's all there is to it.
And if we really go after an entire species of plant, then something nasty is going to happen.
Yep, definitely.
Mother Nature is not going to like that.
Alright, thank you very much for the call.
So, something else will happen.
And I don't have a clue what it would be.
Something else will suddenly appear.
Some new nasty plant.
He eats babies or something.
You know, who knows?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yeah, hi, Art.
Hello.
Yeah, this is... My name's Lonnie.
I'm calling from Miami, Florida.
Hi, Lonnie.
Yeah, I've been listening to your show for the past eight or nine months.
I enjoy it very much, driving around here at night all over South Florida.
And your mind still is basically intact?
Oh, yes.
I think it's much better now than it was before, actually.
I've learned so many things.
You're talking about age, pain, and blood a few minutes ago?
Yes, I was.
I heard the other day on another show that that age may have been created by population control.
Well, there was, there is in fact, testimony that was given either in the House or the Senate, I can't recall now, in which a scientist, a genetic scientist, was asked if something that would Destroy the human immune system could be created and vectored like a virus.
And the answer was yes.
Now that was a long, long time ago.
And you've got to wonder why they were asking questions like that.
Buster the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi Art, how are you?
I'm fine.
I've got a couple of questions for you.
First of all, I believe that I have heard the name Dr. Nick Begich on your program.
Is that so?
Sure.
I've interviewed Dr. Begich, I'll bet you six or eight times.
What is he about?
What's his field of interest?
The good doctor mainly has been interested in HAARP.
That's what I had him on the air for, for the most part, the HAARP project in Alaska.
However, I understand he recently, I think, entered the political arena and may be running for governor or something.
I heard that.
That's interesting.
But the main reason I had him on there was because of Harp.
And he's up in Alaska, isn't he?
Yes, he wrote a book called Angels Don't Play That Harp.
That's who wrote that book?
Yep.
Okay, I've heard of the book.
That must have been where I heard the name.
The other thing that I want to ask, I saw something in the sky the other night.
And it's not like anything that I've ever seen.
Where are you?
I'm in Denver.
Denver, okay.
And I saw this thing, and it was huge, but it's not like any description that I've ever heard anybody give of a UFO before.
Well, describe it.
It was a sort of a peach-colored light in the center, and it radiated out to a golden-yellow kind of light.
And it was huge!
It was up above a street lamp, and it was about two times the size of the streetlight, and it was there for just a split second.
It bleeped in and then it bleeped right back out.
Wow.
Have you ever heard of anything like that?
Yes.
The answer is yes.
Now, thank you.
Bleeped in and bleeped out.
There are a lot of people now who lean toward the theory that craft, or beings, from another dimension.
Occasionally, in effect, blink in and blink out of this one.
And you certainly cannot rule out that possibility.
In fact, the people who constantly argue that no alien could ever get here because of the speed of light restrictions... I mean, you can't travel faster than the speed of light, and so... Yes, there are probably inhabited planets elsewhere, civilizations, but they could never get here because it would take too long.
The people who lean toward that argument ought to be leaning toward The possibility of multi-dimensions as the answer to what some people think of as space travelers.
Because there's so much evidence.
Now, let's see.
Wildcard Line, you are on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
Let me turn you down over here, bud.
Yes, do that.
Hey, you got the professor here in Columbus, Georgia.
Good to talk to you again.
Yes, good to talk to you.
Hey, look, I wanted to talk to you about the Masonic Lodge.
You know, I just happen to be sitting here reading Sandeo's book.
And something I've long thought I just found.
I'm reading The Cosmic Conspiracy, the one he updated in 92.
Do you have a copy of that?
I do, somewhere.
Do you read it?
Did I read it, do you mean?
Yeah, I think I did read some of it, actually.
You know, you can pick up any section of this book right now and find that it parallels many things going on today.
It's absolutely amazing.
I love the guy.
Stan Dale is amazing.
Yeah, he's one of my best friends, and the other day I talked to him about something, and he said he'd write the fourth of my book, bless his heart.
But anyway, I've got some very interesting news that I'll share with you one day, but right now I've got to write it down somewhere.
Very interesting though, Art, it'll be right up your alley.
What I wanted to talk to you about is the Mason thing.
The other night I couldn't find my dog-eared copy of Morals and Dogma.
Albert Pike, but I did find a book by an ex-32nd degree mason where he's got a lot of the quotes right out of it, and I'm pretty sure... Yeah, but alright, here's my problem.
I interviewed a 32nd degree mason the other day.
And there are quite a few 32nd degree masons.
And I'm not saying that there is anything at all to this whole Masonic... Whatever it is.
But I did ask a question that stopped him cold.
I said, look, you're denying anything that we've been discussing, or my guess was at the time, about Masons, and that's fine.
But you're a 32nd degree Mason, and you have already just told me that a 33 degree Mason, 33rd degree Mason, is given a lot of very special secret knowledge.
And you being only a 32nd, how can you not know that when you get to be a 33rd, You get all of this knowledge and he had to admit.
Well, yeah.
Might be.
He could not possibly know.
He's only a 32nd.
But that's not to say that there's anything to any of it.
What's to the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hi.
Hello there, Arch.
Oh, hi Fritz!
Art, there's a journalistic ambush against you.
Oh, no kidding, Fritz.
It's been that way since I've been on the air all my public life.
Well, let's go back to November 19.
I told you that Jonathan and Robert, the alien in the freezer, is nothing but a silly hoax.
Yeah, I remember you told me that.
And I also told you there would be a national television exposure.
Right?
So you, of course, are referring to the Fox hoax program.
I would say that the self-appointed spinmeister of the hoax files, Bob Kiewert, is behind it.
They want to show how the public is very easy, gullible, you know, very easy gullible and believes anything they hear.
And they're setting you up.
That's my feeling.
They're not setting me up, Fritz.
I can't be set up.
Well, watch the show.
I already saw the show.
Well, the new one.
They have another one?
Well, there's a part two coming.
Really?
Oh, yeah, part two is coming.
Well, listen, Fritz, it's OK.
Don't worry.
You're always worrying about me.
They can't set me up, Fritz, because all I've got is an open forum.
Well, the alien they created on those fantastic pictures they created over in Fox Studio.
Yeah.
That's what it makes us.
You think so, huh?
I have a feeling.
I mean, two and two is four.
It's that simple.
Well, I knew that you would be real down on Kiviet because of, you know, what he said about Billy Meyer.
Well, not just about Billy Meyer, but the whole thing.
The way he's using the approach.
I mean, he's just totally wrong.
And the other amateur quaff, you know, that team is a joke.
Well, let's watch the show number two.
When's it going to be on?
Well, my guess is in about a month or two.
Oh, a month or two.
All right.
Well, we've got plenty of time.
Thank you, Fritz.
Yeah, that's a good thing about doing what I do, and that is nobody can really set me up, because I'll air anything.
I'll air anything, and I'll always disclaim it the way I do.
I air what's interesting.
I don't warranty any of it to be true.
Period.
So what are they going to say?
What can they say?
I just treat you as adults.
And when there's something interesting to run, I run it and I let you decide as adults whether what you're hearing is entertaining, baloney, or sounds like the Holy Grail to you.
You know, that one's up to you.
That's my attitude about it, so I never get set up.
First time caller line, you are upon the air.
Hello.
Hey Art, this is Tim listening to the mighty 1190 KEX.
In Portland, yes sir.
Hey, I don't know if you heard, but I have a geological update for you.
Geological?
Yes.
Okay.
Mount St.
Helens blew what, 1980?
I think it was 80, yeah.
And Mount Hood this morning has had 25 earthquakes.
And the biggest one was 3.2 on the Richter scale.
And there's a lot of aftershocks to go with it.
What do you think?
Well, from what they said, most of the earthquakes were really deep, so it sounds like magma is moving underneath, not just the surface earthquakes.
So you never know.
That's right, you never know.
What kind of position would you be in where you are if Hood blew its cookies?
I wouldn't be talking to you on the phone anymore.
You wouldn't?
See, Mount Hood is about Forty to fifty miles east of Portland.
Did you ever... Oh, there was a movie.
I can't remember what the movie is right now.
But the way they knew that an atomic bomb went off in New York was that they were talking to this guy in New York City and they could hear this high squealed sound when the phone melted.
And that's how they knew a nuclear device had gone off in New York City.
And just in case Hood does go, I can only hope that you're able to get through.
Well, did you hear that sound your phone just made?
Yeah, my phone's going dead.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Better your phone than you.
So anyway, if you were on the line when Mount Hood went, it would be very cool to listen, so try to get through if it seems to be going.
Actually, I don't know if you'd hear anything, because when Mount St.
Helens flew up, a lot of people in Idaho, Montana, over there could hear it.
We couldn't.
We were in an air bubble.
We'd hear something.
I mean, your phone melting something.
We will be right back.
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We've got Robert in Houston.
There's this lady that I've seen about four or five times in my lifetime.
She's tall and skinny.
She's got on some tight blue jeans, some Indian moccasins.
She's got on a rainbow striped poncho and a little flop hat.
I saw this woman when I was about eight or nine.
I saw her again.
I was living in Dallas, Texas.
I was on the bus and she was standing outside.
Did she look like she aged?
No.
And here's the crazy thing.
About five years ago, Me and two of my brothers, we all went on a cruise to St.
Thomas down in the Virgin Islands.
Oh, no, don't tell me.
We got on one of these little Jitney buses.
And my brother, he said, see that lady over there?
I said, we saw that lady in Jacksonville.
Last November, my brother died.
He had surgery.
He had woke up.
He was getting ready to eat his breakfast and everything.
And he said, oh.
He said, I gotta get off the phone.
He said, I got company.
He said, you know the lady we saw down in St.
Thomas?
I said, she's sitting over there in the chair.
He said, let me talk to her and I'll call you back.
Fifteen minutes later, my niece called back.
He was dead.
He's dead.
She was dead.
Great story.
Now we take you back to the night of January 11th, 1999, on Arkbells Somewhere in Time.
Well, alright.
From the Mind Perfection Institute, now, in Chicago, comes Joseph DeLuise.
American Woman Magazine, September 97 issue, named Joseph Delouise as one of the country's top ten psychics.
Joseph is nationally known as a parapsychologist, is one of the world's most accurate clairvoyants, has astounded thousands with his predictions that are seemingly beyond belief, that is, until they materialize.
In fact, no psychic in modern history has possessed the ability to look through the window of time with such amazing accuracy as Joseph Deluise.
Some of his predictions include the country's worst bridge disaster, the collapse of the Ohio River Bridge killing 57, the Chicago IC train crash killing 37, the first was 57 actually on the bridge and then 37 here with the train, the Kennedy Mary Jo Kopechny tragedy, the Sharon Tate murder clues leading to the arrest of Charlie Manson, the raging California floods, the assassination of Anwar Sadat, the Black Monday stock market crash of 87, the tearing down of the Berlin Wall, and the recent prediction of the 1998 skyrocketing stock market.
In 1997, he received the prestigious honor of being recognized in Who's Who In America, in one of America, well actually, as one of America's most outstanding clairvoyants.
He has been acclaimed for his predictions which have appeared in the Chicago Tribune, Chicago Sun-Times, Palm Beach Sun, Los Angeles Herald-Examiner, front page of the Wall Street Journal, and Reuters News Service.
Articles on DeLuise have been printed in magazines including Newsweek, People, and Of course, all of the tabloids.
He has appeared on hundreds of radio and TV shows, like Johnny Carson, David Susskind, Merv Griffin, Terry Savage.
DeLuise is the country's only psychic registered financial advisor.
His book, Psychic Mission, is based on his life and accomplishments.
Here is Joseph DeLuise.
That's quite a life, Joseph.
Well, I'm gonna hire you as my PR man.
Huh?
All I did was read your PR stuff, so whatever you've got is good.
Well, whatever I got, let's say, I got publicity on that, and some of the things, you know, happened so long ago that people forgot.
You know, the Sharon Tate case.
Sure.
The bridge disaster, and a bunch of other things that, you know, I got all my walls front page.
You know, you've heard the story, if you could make the headlines And be famous for 15 minutes.
That's right.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I've liked them doing it over and over and over again.
And it's hard for me to believe that I do these things.
And they come, they sort of come natural.
Well, I don't, I'm not big on doing pre-interviews.
I don't like doing pre-interviews on the radio.
I just don't like it.
But you were telling me during the little talk we did have that you think anybody can do this.
In other words, I believe I believe that people can turn inwardly and develop the ability to be able to project their mind into the future and to see things.
But I think what happens is that they don't believe it and they try to intellectualize it.
You know, like I tell people, I want you to think what the weather's going to be on July the 15th of the year 1999.
And of course, they say, well, I don't know.
You're not supposed to know.
You're just supposed to see.
We're supposed to feel what it's going to be.
And then you write it down, and you check it on a particular day.
But not everybody, nevertheless, Joseph, does this.
They don't.
And there are various reasons for that.
I think that people are caught up in everyday life.
They don't have time for this kind of intellectual pursuit.
And so, you know, they're busy.
I mean, phones are ringing.
They've got to go to work.
They've got to do what they do every day in life.
And so they don't have time for it.
That's true.
That's true.
Now, you don't sell anything.
You say you don't sell anything.
I don't sell anything.
I'm sort of deeply involved in religious work.
You know, I'm getting to the age where, as you get older, you start to think of, what can I give back?
You know, I gained all this publicity.
Where is it really going to lead?
Can I make more predictions, of course?
Do I want to?
No, I really don't want to.
You don't want to?
No, the reason I don't want to, because I already know what's going to happen, and some of the things are good, some of the things are bad, and that I really don't need clients.
When I say clients, because you know you're busy all day long, and I'm busy on the phone all day long, what am I going to do with people calling me up?
Well, I don't know.
What have you done with him?
Well, what I do now is give him financial advice.
But I give the financial advice because I'm an investment advisor and I'm registered, but I don't like to handle people's money.
So I just give him what I feel and tell him to call me back in six months and see what's happening to their stock.
And usually they'll call me back.
uh... sometimes it goes up and they forget to get rid of it and then it goes
back down what's going to happen of course i keep getting
feeling you know for the markets always going up and down through as they go
about down uh... it goes back up
there's a lot of money on the sideline right now i can uh... predict that the market is going to keep going
up even though it will take some deep dip
you mean are you are you predicting for what period of time uh...
For 99, this year?
Oh yeah, this year.
We'll see the market take a hit and it could go down maybe a couple of thousand points and then immediately it'll go back up because the big money's on the sideline ready to buy in.
So the big money is just waiting?
It's waiting.
There's billions of dollars out there waiting to come in.
So you don't see Tragedy for the stock market.
You just see a sort of a correction, I guess you would call that, at the levels we're at now.
Right.
There was one day where 2,000 points would have been the end.
Well, that's true, but I think even 3,000 or 4,000 is not the end.
It's just a temporary correction.
Some would say an opportunity.
Right.
Big money will be coming in, and there's a lot of people that will get out.
And I always tell them to get out in April or May and get back in when the market goes down.
Yeah, sure.
Buy low, sell high.
That's the way it's supposed to be.
But most people, you know, then they call me up, well, I've got to pay the taxes.
Well, listen, if you made some money, what's wrong with paying the taxes?
That's what keeps the government going.
Yeah, I have a lot of complaints about that myself, but I pay them.
Right.
There's greed out there.
The way I've felt about it is, I've done a lot of travel, Joseph.
I've been around the world a few times.
What we have here is so good that it's worth what taxes we do pay.
Absolutely.
Even if it's terribly painful.
Well, you should see what the taxes are in England.
I've got a couple of relatives up there, and I mean, you know, they're really steep.
I know.
They have clean streets, though.
Well, they have clean feet, they got everybody working, and they won't allow anybody else to come in.
Just for a visa of a week or a month or six months, that's it.
There is, in other areas though, other than financial, there's a lot of really interesting stuff going on, worrisome stuff with the environment, that sort of thing.
Do you ever look ahead at Where we're headed with the environment and earth changes and that kind of stuff?
Here's what I feel.
I feel that the people that polluted the planet and the same people who polluted the planet are going to clean it up.
There's going to be a lot of work out there for cleaning up the environment.
Regardless if it's this year or next year, what we create we'll undo.
You're right about there being plenty of work.
There's plenty of work out there.
I read a story last hour.
The U.S.
government is spending $20 million to develop a fungal agent that will kill all the marijuana in the world.
Don't drive people crazy, though.
I'm serious.
I'm really serious.
They're doing it.
And I've got this feeling that, well, I don't know, maybe we can talk about it.
Marijuana, along with other plants and trees and stuff that's here on Earth, was put here, depending on your point of view, by a creator or as a matter of nature.
In other words, it's for some reason or another, it's supposed to be here.
And I'm not sure it's our job, as human beings, to completely eradicate any particular plant or animal from the face of the Earth, because we decide to.
Well, I agree.
In other words, if you get rid of the marijuana, the weed, or whatever you want to call it, it'll kill something else also.
That's what I think.
Or something else will be born that we will like even less.
Right.
Probably.
Who knows?
I only know one thing.
Some countries that allow people to have drugs and marijuana, they've got more control of the people.
People that do smoke marijuana are a little on the passive side.
Uh, you know, I can predict or meet people that smoke it two, three times, four times a week.
I can predict it.
It's going to be hard for them to be successful.
Uh, because number one, they're passive.
Yeah.
Uh, they're escaping right now.
You know what just happened?
What?
My black cat is sitting on my notes.
Your black cat is sitting on your notes?
I got a beautiful black cat with a little white spot.
She just snuck in when I opened the door.
I have, uh, I have three cats.
I got four.
Four.
Well, you've outdone me.
But I don't let them in the studio and that's exactly why.
Because cats like notes.
They like paper.
Right.
And if there's a little square, a cat will go immediately over to it and sit in the little square.
Right.
And that's your notes.
I really can't do anything without her.
She is the most beautiful cat.
It's either that or it's a sign that you shouldn't be on the air.
What?
Are you superstitious?
You're starting to believe?
What's another thing I want you to know?
Belief can kill you!
Yeah, it can.
I bet it can.
Right, because number one, belief, regardless if it's real or make-believe, it's in your head.
There's a lot of people out there that believe certain things that somebody could put a curse on them, or do something, and because they believe it, they open themselves up to it.
And that's how witchcraft or magic works.
Right.
Or voodoo.
Right.
But the point is you have to believe it before it works.
It doesn't work.
Otherwise I would have been dead a long time ago.
A lot of people would love to have got rid of me.
So you don't believe in any of that for one second?
I believe it's there and I believe it's the person's belief that causes the problem.
No, I'm talking about you personally.
In other words, you don't believe it.
You said if you did, you'd have been dead long ago.
I thought people would have killed me.
So you think they've tried?
Oh, of course they've tried.
But it makes a person who's tuned in spiritually actually stronger.
Why would somebody dislike you, Joseph?
You sound like a very likable... Well, because I'm competition and I've got an attitude problem.
You know, a lot of people A lot of people would like to see me out of the way.
I've outlived a lot of my competition.
You're how old now?
I'm 72.
You have outlived a lot of your competition.
Right, but my competition, a lot of them have been put away.
We started this, and I think I told you, about 35 years ago, about 1965, I got involved with different organizations that were into Ouija boards and spiritual churches.
of say on for the record really interested in that then uh... it was a way of developing and finding out
what was really going on in the well what is that i mean is there anything to
it or is it all bunch of money well we do boards are we keep order
it works it'll destroy you yes i know
because number one what happened that the week reports really working
uh... it'll give you some uh... answers answers some questions yep
it'll get your book and then all of a sudden your whole life just spins around
in circles.
And I don't know.
The people that I know that were involved with the Ouija board are either dead or sick or not around.
You don't have to be careful.
Just get rid of it.
Well, I'll tell you what.
I used to work for a radio station in Las Vegas.
This goes back probably 15 years, Joseph.
And one day I went out To the outside hall.
It was in a casino.
That's what I worked in Las Vegas.
And this very ancient, and I mean ancient Ouija board had been left for me by an anonymous person.
I mean this thing looked like it was a hundred years old.
And I took it home.
And I will not relate the experience that I had with it.
I won't even talk about it.
It's one of the very few things that I won't talk about on the air that I've done, but it scared the hell out of me.
It scared the hell out of me.
There you are.
I had a story.
Not a story, the truth.
I had a couple of nuns come to me.
And the nuns were working with a Ouija board.
Really?
And they were getting messages.
Why would nuns use Ouija boards?
Don't ask me why would nuns.
I don't know.
I'd say about 20, 25 years ago.
And they says, Joseph, the Ouija board said this, the Ouija board said that.
And I would listen and say, gee, that's interesting.
So they got the priest involved with it.
And they were contacting the Ouija board.
The Ouija board was talking or, you know, making messages.
So one day they decided, the Ouija board told them, if you take this to the bishop, he will kiss Your hand.
Let me tell you what he did.
No, no.
Don't.
Hold that story.
We're at the bottom of the hour, so hold it until after the break.
We'll find out.
You know, you've got to wonder, number one, what nuns would be doing with a Ouija board, but then a priest.
Definitely you've got to wonder what he'd do with a Ouija board.
I can only guess what happened when it got to the bishop.
And I imagine if they'd managed to get past the bishop, They'd have wanted it to go directly to the Vatican.
Can you imagine that?
Special delivery to the Vatican for the Pope.
One Ouija board that seems to be talking.
Okie doke, we'll be right back.
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Are you convinced that there are governments above governments?
Governments that we don't vote for?
Governments that are controlling presidents or prime ministers or leaders of other nations?
There's no doubt there were two governments.
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tonight on-board presentation of coast-to-coast am from january eleventh
nineteen ninety nine back now to joseph deloes and uh... uh... the priest was
told to take the we g bore
I want you to understand, we're not talking about Catholic nuns or Catholic priests.
There are other religions that have priests.
There are?
Right.
And nuns, I suppose.
So this was not Catholicism?
Well, I don't want to say it wasn't.
Alright.
Okay.
And I was doing a show for a church to raise some money, and of course, a priest came up to me and says, Joseph, what you're doing is evil.
I said, look, Father, we're having a little fun.
We're raising some money.
And I'm giving people my impressions.
Well, anyway, the nuns liked what I was talking about, and they thought they could be honest with me and came to me and told me about the Ouija Board.
And for months, they would be coming in just to talk to me.
God, we got this message.
We did this.
We did that.
And one day, the Ouija Board says, take it to the bishop.
Now, that doesn't mean the bishop.
In Chicago, that means their bishop.
I've got you.
Okay, so they take it to the bishop.
And they told him what the Ouija board said.
And he looked at them and he says, you know, they were picking up actually a Pope from about the 12th through the 13th century that was insane.
And the Bishop knew or felt who it was and of course he told them if they ever did that again, he was going to really throw them out.
Well, yeah.
And they quit doing it.
Well, good.
They were becoming obsessed and possessed because that Ouija board was really talking.
I know.
And, you know, Ouija boards are still manufactured and sold as toys, as you well know.
Yeah, well, they made a lot of money with Ouija boards.
Right.
But let me just say one thing.
If they start to work, you're in trouble.
I couldn't agree with that more.
I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I do agree.
So anyway, obviously you've got some clients.
I'm much less interested in their financial advice than I am in what lies ahead for all of us.
That is of interest to me.
What lies ahead in the world?
What kind of year are we going to have?
What's this Y2K thing going to be like?
That sort of thing.
What lies ahead for everybody?
You know what?
Like I was a Boy Scout when I was young.
And of course, one of our things is to be prepared.
So I've been getting a lot of calls, Joseph, you know, what's going to happen?
How much water should we store?
What should we do about food?
I get all these phone calls, and of course, I tell them, listen, I said, why don't you just be prepared?
Buy the food, get the water.
And be prepared if anything does happen.
Well, I mean, that's always good, solid advice.
I know, but you see, with myself, I don't believe it.
All right, based on what you've seen or not seen, or just sort of based on... Based on my feelings.
Just your feelings.
My psychic feelings.
Oh, psychic feelings.
All right.
Do you remember?
I don't know.
I think you lived too young.
During the, you know, 45s and 50s, when we were going to build I was born in 1945.
Alright, but then you were young and I remember I was raising five daughters and in the backyard I was building a shelter.
I was doing everything and people called me up and tell me what they were doing and I was just going along with it.
There was nothing wrong with it.
We had a little fun.
I was always afraid we were going to be wiped out, but nothing happened.
But always be prepared anyway.
Well, there have been a lot of natural disasters.
People losing power, hundreds of thousands.
In Chicago, just recently, the weather yesterday was 28 below zero.
That was the wind chill.
And there were neighborhoods with no electricity, no phones.
And if you remember last year, Uh, about the same time.
I remember... Remember?
Everybody stuck on the road?
I remember with crystal clarity because I was on the air talking to people who were stuck there.
Stuck for five hours on the expressway.
That's right.
That's right.
If it wasn't for you, they would have nobody to talk to, I remember.
But there's been disasters all over.
So, preparing... Preparing, there's nothing wrong with preparing.
Yeah, smart idea no matter what.
Right.
As far as the stock market, my feeling is okay.
It really is going to go down.
I see it going down.
It's taken a hit.
But then I'm feeling there's billions waiting out there to get back in.
The big problem can come when we're competing against Europe.
Investing.
And then people should start investing in the European stocks.
Buy the Euro dollar?
Euro dollar, Euro stocks, Italian stock market, French, Germany.
Other type of thing.
Interesting.
What about Asia?
I mean, Asia's in a big... Asia's going to come in later.
Later, I feel, you know, I'm getting Europe the next year or two or three.
People should be getting into the European market.
But then Asia, I'd say about two or three years.
What did you have to do with the Sharon Tate murder case?
Oh, I'm glad you asked.
I told you, you're going to be my PR man.
What happened?
I was involved in the Kennedy tragedy at Chappaquiddick.
Yes.
Anyway, I was doing a little article for the newspaper, the Sun-Times.
Chicago Sun-Times, yeah.
I was in a studio and giving predictions.
He said, Joe, we need five predictions.
And the prediction should be about the mayor, about the weather, about the colleges, and And I was staring into... I got a crystal ball that I was given by a German.
And people said, well, you use the crystal ball.
Yeah, it relaxes me.
And the magic, of course, is in the crystal.
I have a crystal ball, also.
Oh, yes, I do.
All you have to do is look into it.
It's a pure, real crystal ball.
They're very expensive.
Oh, well, I don't have to tell you.
It's from, what is it, Denmark or something?
It's very, very expensive.
Oh yeah, terribly expensive, and I look at it every day.
How do you use a crystal ball?
Well, what happens, it was given to me by a friend that I used to work with.
I want to tell you that I was a hairdresser.
In fact, that's how I became famous.
Really?
I'd be setting here, and I'd give people little readings.
Oh, while you're cutting their hair.
Right, and one day a lady came in, I was giving a permanent.
I was touching her hair and massaging it and rolling it up, and she says, Joseph, what do you see from my son?
Oh, immediately I started to talk about problems, about he was overweight, he had problems with his wife, and I felt the divorce coming up, and she says, oh my God!
So anyway, she told him, and this man had his show in theory, he was doing a radio show, And he felt, God, this guy's pretty good, let me get him.
And so I started appearing on the air.
And of course, people called up, and they wanted little readings, like, Joseph, I lost my gun, or I lost this, what do you see?
And I would say, well, just go in the closet on the right side, you'll look at that.
And believe it or not, everything I was talking about was, you know, materializing.
So one day, After about 10 or 15 shows, he says, Joseph, enough of this.
Why don't you make a prediction?
I says, what's that?
He says, that you're going to predict something that's going to happen.
Right.
I says, okay, you know, I thought I'd be okay.
So I went home and I got five kids running around, you know, all hyper.
And I had got myself in a bedroom and I started to look at this crystal ball and I told myself, hey, I've got to come up with a prediction.
Maybe I'll predict the mayor's going to get an ulcer.
Or something in general.
An ulcer?
And all of a sudden, I'm looking at a crystal ball, and I see this bridge.
This bridge colliding or collapsing.
And I says, oh, I tell my wife, I says, you know what?
There's going to be a bridge disaster.
She says, don't you dare use that.
There hasn't been a bridge disaster in 30 years.
I says, OK, I won't use it.
I'll go with the mayor's ulcer.
So I appeared on the show.
And I had my crystal ball and it was a fun type of thing because this was about 30 years ago.
And all of a sudden we had a commercial and I started to stare into the crystal ball again and here I see the same bridge and I'm sort of in a semi-trance.
So the radio personality takes the microphone and he says, Joseph, what do you see?
What do you see?
And I tell him I see a bridge going down.
It's south of here.
I'm getting like Ohio.
And I feel 57 people are going to, you know, die.
I see cars hanging over.
He says, well, how's it going to happen?
I says, well, the piles, it's...
Uh, what do you call it?
Rush hour!
Too much weight!
So, in other words, all of this was actually documented on the air?
Well, yeah!
I still got the tape!
I can't believe it!
And then the Ohio River Bridge collapsed, killed 50... Three weeks later, when he asked me when it was going to happen, I says, God, no!
License plates are all 1967!
So, it's happening this year!
He says, oh my God!
He says, you're going to be famous!
If this happens, you're going to be famous!
Well, three weeks later... It happened.
It's Thanksgiving.
The bridge went down.
Newspapers picked up the article.
Sure.
I appeared all over the country.
I had people flying in from Turkey to get a reading.
I had three, what do we call it, newspaper people come in from Turkey.
Is that what brought all the really heavy-duty interests of Johnny Carsons and Susskinds and Griffins and all that?
Absolutely.
And it hasn't stopped since.
Then I went on to make more predictions.
And all these things started to happen.
I predicted there'd be an insurrection.
And the guy says, for what?
I says, how do I know?
I just see the headline, insurrection.
And a couple of months later, the king, who was it, got assassinated and we had sort of an insurrection in Chicago.
It was a lot of burning, a lot of problems.
Have you ever wondered, Joseph, in a quiet moment yourself, whether You are actually seeing the future, or creating it?
Yeah, I was asked that once.
I was doing a show for a college group, and I had all these students, and I was talking about, I don't know what I was talking about, and one of the students got up and said, Mr. DeLuise, why don't you say nice things?
And I said, like what?
Like they're going to legalize marijuana?
And he said, well, if I say it, does that mean I'm going to create it?
So, uh, you know, you wonder, could I cause these things?
I'm saying absolutely.
That's insanity to believe that.
You know, like I'm predicting a bridge disaster, a plane crash, naming how many people, and I was surprised because when I did these things, I was doing a radio show, and usually during a radio show, during a commercial, I lay on the floor, and I meditate, and all of a sudden I get something, and, you know, I talk about it.
And I did that with the IC train crash.
There was never... Well, there wasn't any train crashes and I predicted there'd be a train crash south of Chicago.
I think 39 people would get killed.
I see a train plowing into the other one and that was it.
Until about a month later, this happened.
Of course, the newspapers picked up on it.
How did you see it?
What happened?
You know, it's hard to explain.
All right.
The original question was about Manson.
Oh, Manson.
Okay.
What happened?
I was doing... I was cloned to Chappaquiddick by private jet.
Oh, really?
Because, number one, my prediction about the tragedy around... drowning around Ted Kennedy appeared in the National Enquirer.
I think it was 1968 or 69.
Right.
And when it materialized, they, you know, they had to get me there.
They had to take me to the cottage to, uh, what is it called?
The bridge.
And, um... Chuck, is it important that you get near the event?
Yeah.
It's important.
It was important then.
And you know what?
As I meditated, I got these things, you know, what the National Enquirer told me.
Joseph, we can't use that.
That's slander.
I said, well, don't use it.
But this is what I say.
So did they use it?
They used it.
They watered it down.
I felt there was a lot of drugs, a lot of drunkenness, a lot of fooling around, and that Kennedy never swam across the channel.
I don't think he was responsible, but I do think that the whole story was doctored up.
Much milder.
Yeah, we had to make it much milder, because what I said, you know, I could have been arrested, but years later proved out that I was right.
All right, so... And what happened when I was doing this, I got a phone call from a person who remembered some of my predictions.
He says, Joseph, forget about the Ted Kennedy.
Fly here.
There's been a tragedy.
A Sharon Tate case.
I said, who's Sharon Tate?
He says, well, she's a movie star and, you know, What's his name?
Manson's name was never mentioned.
So he says, why don't you meditate and see what you get.
Well I said sure.
I'm used to meditating.
I meditated and the Palm Beach newspaper called me up and they did the article.
This is what Joseph feels and what he said.
I mentioned the name Tex.
I didn't say Tex Watson.
I said I see the word Tex and it happened to be Tex Watson later.
And then another name appeared to me, Linda.
Of course, that was Linda Kasabian, who, you know, who confessed or turned them in.
And, of course, then they flew me to California there.
And I spent a little time in Rudolph Valentino's house and the Sharon Tate.
I went through the knife and all the things that happened.
And I told him on October the 14th, They would find some evidence, and they did.
They found, I think they found a knife on the side of one of the expressways there.
A knife used in a murder.
And then, of course, what happened is because I got a lot of write-ups in the paper in L.A.
that my phones were tapped.
And I started to get phone calls from the young people who belonged or knew Manson.
And they started telling me that, hey, we know you're right.
Uh, they didn't say it was Manson, but, uh, there's these crazy people, uh, that are into drugs and this and that, and, uh, you know, they got caught.
Boy, that's quite a record, uh, Joseph.
That's quite a record.
That's quite a record.
All right.
And you know, there was a lot of other things that, uh, you know, I was involved in the Zodiac, and you might remember the Zodiac.
The Zodiac killings, you mean?
Right.
Uh-huh.
Uh, Joseph, oh, it's the top of the hour, and you've got 12 minutes, so get your crystal ball and lie down.
All right?
I'll try.
All right, good.
Good.
Stay right there.
We'll break here at the top of the hour.
My guest is Joseph DeLuise.
He is one of our nation's most famous psychics in his seventies now.
And tonight, right here on Coast to Coast AM, don't touch that dial.
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Boy, have I ever put up a neat picture for you.
Talking to Joseph got me interested in my own crystal ball, and there's a story that goes with this crystal ball that's kind of cool.
Bob Crane, whose picture was on my website during the weekend, by the way, because he was here, I don't know, it was about a year ago, and Bob went to to Taiwan and he was in a remote village somewhere in Taiwan and I had expressed an interest in owning a crystal ball and I didn't care if it was really glass it would have been cool but Bob set out to get me a real crystal ball and he went into this little village mountain village in Taiwan and he found a crystal ball a pure crystal ball they are very rare pure crystal balls are very rare
You know, most of them have flaws, and they're very expensive.
So he walked into this little shop, and he thought he had the right price for the crystal ball.
He had done his math.
And so he said, OK, I'll buy it.
Well, at this point, the entire family is rousted from upstairs.
And they come down, and they start giving him cigarettes and gifts, and they have a party.
And he's wondering, hmm.
What's going on here?
I've spent $70, I think, and it's kind of like I'm a head of state or something.
And so anyway, the party proceeds, and they just give him a great old time, and then it comes time to pay for the crystal ball, and it turns out to be many, many hundreds of dollars.
Well, by this time, of course, the entire family had been somewhat I don't want to use that word.
There had been a big party over his purchase.
Let us put it that way.
So he didn't have the heart not to buy it.
So he bought it for me.
And I've got a crystal ball.
And I just went into the other room and got my crystal ball and put it right up to the webcam and took a picture of myself through the crystal ball.
You're actually looking through the crystal ball.
It's really a cool photograph.
It's up on my website right now.
We're talking about crystal balls, so I thought I'd give it a try.
Take a look, see, you're actually looking straight through a crystal, pure crystal ball.
Then there's those other photographs, and you've got to see those.
One is of a jet, a phantom, breaking the sound barrier near ground level, or almost at ground level, during an air show.
And the other is of a... maybe a ground-boring machine.
We're not sure what the hell it is.
You tell us.
The person who sent it thought it was a machine designed to bore into the ground.
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Are you convinced that there are governments above governments?
Governments that we don't vote for?
Governments that are controlling presidents or prime ministers or leaders of other nations?
There's no doubt there were two governments.
There's the provisional government and the permanent government.
And that every once in a while you have a charade called an election.
Presidents come and go, but they're there, and they just keep on keeping on, as it were.
Now we take you back to the night of January 11th, 1999, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
Back now to Joseph DeLuise.
You should know that name.
He's been around a lot of years.
He's made a lot of predictions that have come true.
And as a result has been on many, many big programs.
Hey, Joseph, I've got a question for you.
Oh, wait a minute.
Keep that ball wrapped up and don't let anybody touch it.
No?
No, because it takes, it takes a charge that you're putting into the belief.
I mean, it's like, it's almost like, oh, do you really believe that?
Well, I do believe, you know, it's like, Letting somebody drive your car.
You don't let somebody drive your car.
Well, is there actually anything... You're damn right I don't let people drive my car.
Is there anything really special about Crystal?
Right.
I'd like to tell you just a fast little story.
About six, seven years ago, this client came to me.
A man.
And I was in the office and he handed me a Crystal.
Wasn't a crystal ball, but it was a crystal.
Right.
I looked into it, and guess what I saw?
What?
I saw a witch doctor inside the crystal, behind bars.
A witch doctor behind bars?
Right.
Inside a little crystal.
I looked at him, and I was wondering if he was using some type of hypnosis.
And he told me he found this Crystal in a cave in Africa, actually.
The cave is named after him.
It's legit.
University, what do we call it, the museum.
Did some photography on it.
And I did a little hypnosis on him.
Regression.
And this guy, when I regressed him, was a sailor in Marco Polo's Navy.
Back in, you know, what was it, the 1500s?
So you obviously believe in reincarnation?
Well, I believe in reincarnation, but this has never happened to me.
And he's gone around the country doing healing with it.
I was wondering, what is it?
What happened to me?
In fact, I called a person who was a psychiatrist and I told, he says, Joseph, uh, you believe that?
I said, well, you know, it's my reality.
Absolutely.
I believe because it's happened to me.
You know, when it happens to you, Like out of body experience.
That's right.
It's your reality.
That's right.
But anyways, going around the country, healing people with the crystal.
Sort of something with the crystal.
Any idea, I mean any guesses about what it is, what properties crystal has?
I'll tell you one thing, you know when I meditate on crystals?
Yes.
I feel that crystals are going to be used for, what do we call it?
For, uh, not guided missiles, but... ICBMs?
Actually, to, um... Some other productive human endeavor?
Well, it's going to be used for healing, and it's going to be used in military.
You know, you remember the crystal little radio?
Of course, I built one.
A crystal, right?
I built one.
Something with a crystal.
Just imagine a huge crystal, And being able to charge it up.
Well, I can tell you this electronically.
Crystals, when they are cut properly, resonate or vibrate when a voltage and current is applied to them at a very specific frequency and they are used, used to be used exclusively to determine frequencies of radio transmitters.
That's a fact.
I'm seeing them used later on.
Oh, once the breakthroughs there are used to bring down missiles.
So there is something then about crystals, no question about it.
Right.
All right.
Get your crystal, wrap it up in black velvet, and don't let anybody touch it, and once in a while look into it and relax.
It's a relaxing feeling.
And all of a sudden you start seeing something, and you write it down.
All right.
You ask your mind, see something.
Your mind says, like what?
Don't worry about anything and just write it down.
I'm curious.
You had a very great deal of fame.
What would you tell people about being famous?
Is it a good thing or is it a pain in the butt?
First thing, I don't feel I'm that famous.
The reason for that, I never did believe in promoting Uh, I think it was by accident.
Yeah, but you were pretty famous for a while.
I mean, not everybody goes on Carson, or Sussman, or Irv Griffin, whatever.
Well, that's because 30 years ago there aren't too many psychics.
There were maybe a half a dozen.
But I mean, for a while you had fame.
Well, no.
For a while everything was happening, and every time I'd meditate, I could come up with something.
Do things with materialism.
Has this power Left you?
Do you still have it?
No, nothing leaves me.
I mean, you know, it's simple.
Close your eyes, relax, go into a semi-trance that I'm used to going into, like Casey, and letting these things come through.
So you do it as Casey did, then, sort of?
Casey got his, not his power, but his talent from, what do we call it, hypnosis.
He was hypnotized.
Maybe 17, 18 years old.
He had a strep throat or something.
He couldn't talk.
And immediately after that, the channels were opened up.
So it's a form of self-hypnosis.
I interviewed Edgar Cayce Jr.
I've been on a couple of shows with him.
Very interesting person.
Has no psychic ability at all.
But his father's got it all.
He's got a psychic as a brick.
So it's apparently not genetic, huh?
Not with him.
A real nice guy.
Well, much as you say everybody's got the ability, it's not apparent.
It's not apparent because you answered it.
People are too busy.
You know, people go to the 900 numbers.
Didn't I tell you about 25 years ago people came to me and they wanted to do this professionally on television because they were seeing me I was hearing me do it on the air and he said, hey that's
fun we can make money.
So you know, from then on they got the 900 numbers people are making millions of dollars
getting so called advice and you know.
You know the part of the ad that kills me when they run ads for that is only certified
psychics.
Where is it they certify psychics?
I got news for you.
I can send you all the information on the training that they give and of course the
training is on $4 a minute and keep them on for as long as you can not more than 45 minutes
because it runs and let them do the talking.
So, in other words, the...
They give away all the clues the psychic, in quotes, uses.
And how many times do you hear the girl says, oh my God, she says I'm going to get married.
And I'm thinking, of course you're going to get married, idiot.
Everybody's going to get married.
You know what my theory is about marriage?
What's that?
You don't know what happiness is until you get married.
And then it's too late.
I usually don't add the last part.
Well, so you're sort of a little down on the 900 people.
I'm not really down on it.
I feel like people need it.
They wake up in the middle of the night listening to this and we call that disguised hypnosis.
So they get up and they call up and, hey, I got a problem.
The first five minutes is free.
Well, they give you the first five minutes and then the rest you got to pay, you know, because I had my son do that once and he ran up a bill.
He says, Dad, this is great.
Really?
He didn't tell me about it until they turned off his phone.
So you never did that, though?
Never.
Never.
I always did it for free or nothing, you know.
That's where I got the idea.
I was on WGN, WLS, I would be doing shows, the lines would be filled, people would show up, they'd give me their birthday, give them a little reading, they would come in for a bigger reading, and it was a lot of fun.
I'll tell you, Joseph, I've always had a theory that runs counter to what most talk show hosts will have somebody on like yourself who Uh, gives readings, and of course that lights up the phones like crazy.
Oh.
Everybody wants a reading.
Out of tens of thousands.
Oh, absolutely.
Well, knock out your phone.
Absolutely.
But the problem is that it's not really any good for ratings at all, because everybody wants their free reading, of course.
And everybody don't want to listen to everybody's reading.
That's right.
Who the hell cares?
I mean... Well, you know, years ago, when I would even appear on a radio or television show, I made a policy never to give more than four to five readings.
And because people would turn you off.
Yeah.
I guess.
Boy!
So I don't do that.
But I am curious.
I really am curious about whether you have any predictions that you would like to make.
Well, you know, when you went off for the commercial?
Yep.
I laid on the floor like I tell you to.
I'm going to give you two.
Alright.
Oh, two?
One is a volcano is going to blow its top soon.
Don't ask me where.
That's all I saw.
Top of volcano.
The other one is the White House, or the area of the White House, is going to be hit with a ground-to-ground missile.
Good Lord!
Wait a minute!
It's not going to hit the White House.
It might be a mile away, but it's going to be shot from about 40 miles away.
It's going to be assembled in a truck, and it's going to be aimed toward that way, if they could hit it.
They would hit it, but I just don't feel... You don't think it's going to hit?
No, but I feel... That would be a monster story.
Well, that's what I see.
And I feel when I see that, that's definitely this year.
You know, I had a caller last hour that said there are earthquakes now.
There was just a 3.2 earthquake and a million aftershocks around Mount Hood.
Mount Hood?
Well, see, I don't... When I laid down, I just saw a blow to the top.
You know, volcano.
Sometimes you're able to identify where something is, sometimes not.
When I was on the Merv Griffin Show, I think it was 1973, they had about five psychics on, and everybody gave their psychic predictions.
When it came to me, there was only one prediction that I made.
And Brad Steiger wrote this in one of the magazines three months after it happened.
What he did, he did a story, and I predicted that I'd see a plane hitting a mountain on the West Coast.
So then I got on the Merv Griffin Show, and I said, I've only got one prediction.
A plane's gonna hit the mountain on the West Coast here, going toward Las Vegas.
Right.
He says, oh my God!
Well, anyway, guess what happened?
I'm on my way to Palm Springs to do a show, and a plane hits a mountain!
That night!
So immediately, I try to get a hold of the Merv Griffin Show, but guess what?
It was taped!
Nobody remembers!
Oh, geez.
Timelines.
People, of course, will always ask you about timelines.
The prediction, for example, the one you just talked about with regard to somebody trying to hit the White House with a ground-to-ground missile.
That could happen tomorrow, or it could happen next year.
It could happen soon.
Is there any way to put a time to it?
Well, you know, you didn't give me enough time.
I told you that I don't like to make predictions.
Oh, I can make predictions about football.
I can give you that, and give you a time, and a score, and everything else.
But on the time, I didn't get a time.
I just saw a truck, large, you know, 12-wheeler, 16-wheeler truck.
Right.
And there's a bomb back there, and it's made or assembled in pieces, you know, piece here, piece there.
Yeah.
They can bring that in.
And of course, they're aiming it toward the White House, and I don't see it hitting, but I do feel Uh, it'll be in the direction of the White House.
Do you, uh, do you see whether there is a great deal of collateral damage?
No.
I don't see any damage.
No damage?
It could hit the lawn.
It could hit, you know, there's a lot of space there.
But you're scared.
You're scared that they can do that.
And I also feel, listen, this is one of my, that Hussein is going to try, well, he's going to try to take Kuwait again.
Without any problems.
It's only a matter of time.
And you know you were talking about this big machine that digs tunnels?
That's right.
This guy's got so much equipment dug into mountains and tunnels that we don't know about.
We're talking about tanks.
Everything you can think of, he's got.
Oh, I believe it.
And I think it's buried so deeply that we hardly touched it.
We can't touch it.
But really, I mean, he's really got those bunkers really filled.
And I'm talking about tunnels, miles deep like our subways, but wider, where you can run tanks in and out and bombs and everything else.
This man really feels that he's God.
All right, Joseph, hold on.
We're at the bottom of the hour.
Yeah, he probably does.
And by the way, Iraq, Saddam, the other day, almost Apparently in one draft of a message he sent out, uh, was going to say that he now feels Kuwait has no right to exist, and they pulled back from that at the last moment.
That was, uh, on the national news the last day or so.
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program originally aired January 11, 1999.
Well, a volcano going up and something fired at the White House.
Those are the two we just got. Non-trivial to be sure.
I do have some astounding photographs on the website right now,
and when I say astounding, I really mean astounding.
You gotta go take a look.
And regarding what I thought might be a tunnel boring machine, guess what?
It apparently is a tunnel boring machine.
Here's a fax from a mining engineer.
Hey Art, your photograph of the U.S.
Air Force machine is a TVM or Tunnel Boring Machine.
The circular painted blue pieces on the right side of the picture hold the machine on center within the tunnel and I see a conveyor head pulley and transfer chute on the left above the last man.
The ground tan colored area in front of the machine is prepped and ready to go for the beginning of this secret tunnel.
Is that really what it is?
And the photograph, of course, of the fandom breaking the sound barrier is one in a gazillion.
What a photograph that is!
So, anyway, there you have it.
You've got to take a look at these two photographs.
They're on my website at www.artbell.com.
And let me know what you think.
Fax me or email me or something or another.
We'll be right back.
With Joseph DeLuise.
Now, we take you back to the night of January 11th, 1999, on Ark Bells Somewhere in Time.
Back now to Joseph Delouise.
You're back on, Joseph, and as a matter of fact, you're on WLS there in Chicago.
Right, right.
So that's a real good station, really good.
Oh, they are giant, and they should bring back some memories for you.
Oh, God, yeah.
I still know some of them are still on the air, people that I worked with, Ron, in that area.
No kidding.
No, you know, I don't want to name anybody, but yeah.
What would you say to people who want to do what you do?
How would you advise them?
What I would advise them is that first thing, they've got to do what they do the best that they can do.
This is what I can do.
I never had a formal education.
Academically, I don't know what I'm talking about except that I've done these things.
I spent a little time in the Navy.
And of course I attended a lot of seances, a lot of study groups, became a hypnotherapist about 25 years ago using hypnosis to put me in that altered state of consciousness.
And I tell people to learn a little more about their minds, how it works and get rid of the stress and learn how to relax and meditate and ask themselves.
ask themselves to get answers from either that relative, a spirit, a guardian angel
and I swear if you ask you will receive because you know the kingdom is from within
alright then here's a pretty interesting specific question for you Joseph
if you were to see a specific incidence occurring um oh I don't know uh
Somebody getting hit by an 18-wheeler doing 80 miles an hour and flattened like a pancake.
And you were able to identify when, about when, and who it was.
Look, the bottom line of my question is, can events be changed?
No.
If events are changed, then everything I predict would never materialize.
In other words, couldn't there be intervention if you knew?
If a person knew.
Let's say, for myself, I know what's going to happen and I can avoid things.
I get feelings.
I meet people, I get a feeling.
Forget about this guy, he's a con artist.
He's got nothing to do with it.
It's a feeling.
Well, that's what we call intuition.
Right.
But this is, you know, the whole area of uh... uh... the psychic and i hate to use the word
but it's better use clairvoyant using that that you know you know of your mind that's
intuition you develop it
developed it but why does a person want to be a psychic
well so many out there just call nine hundred numbers you got
nine thousand of them uh...
shundor factor call Yeah, I know, but you also have a lot of hustlers out there and you're not... Oh, yeah.
But you know how you can tell a hustler?
How?
Is when they're talking and they're telling you about everything that they've got.
Look at my car.
Look at my phone.
I got a boat.
Well, you know, they're talking about themselves.
You're being hustled.
And you gotta feel it.
Whereas they ought to be talking about you.
They ought to be talking about what they can do for you, not what they've got.
And another thing that I feel, a lot of people, you know, talk about being poor, not having anything.
The truth is, they enjoy not having anything, just where they can always complain.
They won't do anything to do anything.
So you think a lot of poverty, even homelessness, is all their own doing?
Right, I feel that.
But there are people out there that need the help, and a lot of people, of course, That's interesting.
You know, I'm here in Nevada.
and that's an escape they can't stand reality course you know their excuses they
had a bad life or this or that but that's an escape
the same thing with gambling people gamble they win or they gamble more
it's all an escape uh...
that's interesting i i know a lot you know i'm here in nevada
i'm in nevada so i know a lot of gamblers I am not a gambler.
You know how that's set up with the carpets and the lights and the music.
It's hypnotic, isn't it?
Very hypnotic.
No clocks.
Never a clock.
You never see a clock in a casino.
Never.
Every time I go, I win.
You do?
You know why?
Why?
Because, number one, when I roll dice, and that's called PK, psychic kinesis, mind over matter, there's a certain time that I wait for It's like a quarter to twelve to about twelve-thirty that I feel that I've been tuned.
I don't know if it's with the stars or whatever.
And all of a sudden I start throwing the dice, and I will the dice to do what I want them to do.
And they do?
They do.
Now, as soon as those dice do what they don't want you to do, you're like women.
Quit.
Remember, Mr. DeLuise said that.
I didn't.
What?
Alright, well.
They're fickle.
Yes.
But you've got to hit the table at a certain spot and you've got to zap them at that certain
So dice are like women.
What?
Dice are like women.
They're fickle.
Now, it seems to me if what you just said is true, then you could go take The somewhat less than amazing Randy's million dollars away from him.
Randy's a genius.
You know who he's following?
Houdini.
Houdini did the same thing in the 30's.
He challenged everybody.
And really, people can't do it otherwise they would take the money.
Well, but you just said you could.
Now, not always.
You said it has to be at a certain time, but that could be a condition of the test.
I know.
Probably the test.
In other words, when you start being tested, and other people are going to be involved in the test, you lose it.
Why?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I only know that when I go there, I stand at the table, shoot the dice, bang, bang, bang, win a couple of hundred, goodbye, when the dice are turned off.
So you've done nothing but win?
Nothing but win.
But I knew when to quit.
Well, of course, that's the problem that all real addicted gamblers have is they don't know when to quit.
Actually, they will.
They're waiting for the moon.
They're greedy.
That's right.
They will always end up giving it back.
And they don't know what they're doing.
They don't know the odds.
You know, they play roulette.
They play slot machine.
I don't want to say anything, but I don't want those people to lose money.
Let people go there and have fun and gamble.
You know, in Las Vegas, we have something called the blacklist.
That's a list of people that are not allowed in casinos.
Well, I'm allowed because I don't take that much out.
No?
So I was wondering if you'd been blacklisted.
No, huh?
No, not yet, but I'll never be blacklisted because I don't gamble that much.
I have a little fun.
Fifteen, twenty, twenty-five minutes a half hour at the most.
As soon as the dice gets cold, forget it.
Goodbye.
What about lotteries?
Let me just say one thing about Well, six, seven months ago I did a radio show.
And the man asked me, you know, the announcer said, Joseph, do you have any lottery numbers?
I said, sure.
And I gave three numbers.
That evening it came in.
I had hundreds of calls of people calling me up wanting lottery numbers.
So all day long I'm giving lottery numbers.
I see, really?
And you know, the mathematical odds of picking three numbers is 500 to 1.
And if you box them.
About twelve years ago, or maybe fourteen years ago, when Reagan was the president.
Uh-huh.
Yes, I remember.
I did a television show and I got up there and I gave six numbers.
I said, these are the lottery numbers.
I don't know where I got them.
They just come into my head.
About twelve weeks later, eleven million dollar lottery.
Wow!
I started to get phone calls from the people at the station.
your lottery numbers came in but we didn't play it did you play it? of course I didn't play it I didn't even
Wow!
know what the hell we were talking about
but I went back to the tapes because I had a videotape played the tapes
called up the lottery the company that deals the lottery numbers
flash me the numbers and here they were all six numbers wow
do you consider having this gift A blessing or a curse or both?
I mean, are there a lot of times that you see something that you don't want to see?
No.
See, I accept everything.
In other words, I don't believe that we die.
I believe we go to sleep.
And I believe we create our own heaven and hell.
In other words, if a person's good, when they're laying there dying, they get good things.
They see the light, they see this, or whatever.
If they're not, they create the negativeness that happens.
There's too many people involved now in so-called witchcraft, demonology, and everything else.
I think these people are going to suffer.
They're not going to see the light.
But they would do anything to be successful.
I'm sure you've been asked this before, but do you believe in God, Big G?
Creator type God?
Well, let me put it this way.
My mother raised me as a Catholic.
I was born in Italy, in the mountains.
And all of my life, my mother told me my patron saint was Saint Joseph.
And every time I meditate, I meditate on Saint Joseph.
So, I have to say, I do believe.
I believe in Christian religion.
Because I studied all the other ones.
I studied Scientology, the Moonies.
I studied everything and I feel comfortable with the Catholic religion.
And I get it like a trunk of a tree with a lot of branches.
There's only one God.
So the answer is yes?
The answer is yes, absolutely.
Do I have any proof?
I got my own proof, my own reality.
Well, that's good enough, isn't it?
That's all I need.
All right.
Well then, if there is a God, Big G, you believe that, then how about the opposite, Satan, the Big S?
Well, yeah, there's Satan.
Actually, the Satans are people.
They're just the opposite.
Well, if God is a real supernatural being, a creator... Not a real one.
Not a real one.
Let's say Jesus and Saint Joseph and the saints.
Or, you know, real.
But when you talk about God, that's like the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, who they feel is giving them the energy.
I don't think anybody knows who God is.
That's a good answer.
As you get older and older, though, you wonder a lot about that, don't you?
No.
No?
No, because, number one, any time you do too much wondering, too much thinking, you always think of getting old, or not having anything, Uh, getting sick.
And, uh, you create.
See, people get sick six months before they get sick.
They have created it themselves.
Right.
Some type of fear.
This is one reason a lot of times people are brainwashed.
You keep listening on radio or television about cancer.
Take this.
Uh, this is going to get you.
Well, you start believing it.
And, of course, this is impressed in your subconscious mind that you could be sick.
And you start getting sick.
I think if people eat right, and do some praying, whatever God they have, and do the right things, I don't think that they're going to get sick.
I really believe this.
Or how about once they are sick, can they turn it around?
Oh, absolutely.
They can turn it around by...
Being able to contact the Light, the Light, the Light.
Where does the Light come from?
A lot of people say, Joseph, you talk about the Light.
What is the Light?
Well, the Light is this spiritual energy that's transmitted all over.
The Light's all over, and the darkness is all over.
And once you start seeing the Light and you're feeling the Light, and you see it penetrating in your body, Uh, you start getting well again, because then you're eating right, you're thinking right, you're doing the right thing.
Let me tell you a quick little story.
This is gonna, I hope it bothers everybody the way it bothered me.
Several years ago I was interviewing John Lear.
He's the son of Bill Lear, the fellow who invented the LearJet and the 8-track tape machine and all the rest of that.
John is still to this very day a good friend of mine and he told me that he was told by somebody else who he absolutely had faith in that these near-death experiences where people see the light in fact when you do die there is a choice to go to the light or the darkness and he said to me one night you know I've got good hard information that it's a trick That you shouldn't go to the light.
That it's a trick.
That the only way you're going to get where you want to go is to go to the darkness.
And I said, what?
I said, what?
No, no.
Now, thanks a lot for planning that one in my brain.
Right, now he planted something in your brain.
Right, go to the darkness.
That's his reality.
That's his reality.
I know, but it's bothered me ever since.
But you've got to remember, the light could be a chemical reaction in your own brain.
Ah!
Ah!
You believe that?
Yeah.
You know what?
I do, too.
I've been through the lights a couple of times.
Not only that, but I think that an out-of-body experience could also be the product of an active, human, living brain.
The other thing I feel is a lot of people see flying saucers.
Yep.
Actually, there's something in their brain that allows them to see it where someone else doesn't see it.
You think so?
Yeah, they're wired.
They're wired to see.
And they see it.
And of course, it's invisible because they're seeing it inside their head and outside where they feel they're seeing it.
Yeah, well does that mean it's a real manifestation?
Yeah, I do feel it's real.
You do?
I do feel it's real.
And only certain people can see it because they're wired to see it.
Right.
And the other thing, you know when you have a dog and you're a couple of blocks away and you're coming home and the dog starts wagging his tail?
Oh, they've done TV shows on that.
Yes, indeed.
You know what the dog is picking up?
What?
The commutator of your car.
The what?
It's transmitting.
The commutator, the generator.
The generator of your car?
Yeah.
All generators transmit a certain frequency that they pick up.
Like little snowflakes.
They're all different, huh?
Hey!
They're sitting there.
You come about a block away and your wife says, Oh, the dog knew you were coming home.
Of course he knew.
If you want to prove that he doesn't know, get in a different car.
Yeah, but listen.
20-20 did a piece on it.
Maybe you saw it.
They did a piece where the film crew would go into the home and film the dog in hiding.
The dog didn't know they were there.
And they would have the owner start home in the middle of the day at a time when the owner would never come home.
And the owner might be as much as 30 minutes or even an hour away, and the dog knew the person was coming home.
Somehow that dog knew.
There was no question about it.
But I mean, how would the dog... How would he know?
How would he know that far away?
I just told you.
You just told you, but you... It's transmitting.
It could transmit for a block, half a mile.
Oh.
Yeah.
Little electrical impulses.
They know.
That's really interesting.
Yeah, well, I've done a couple of experiments myself.
I know that whales can hear each other, or used to, before we started blocking the sounds out with so many ships in the sea and noise makers.
They could communicate from one side of the world to the other.
This is kind of along that line, except it's through the air, or what?
The ether, or what?
Well, it's through, first, Each generator's got a certain signal.
Yeah, but... But it comes through the air like a radio wave.
Through the air like radio.
Or like a radio wave, or some kind of wave that we don't have the signature on.
Oh, that's really interesting.
And really possible.
I'd never thought about that, Joseph.
Okay, listen, can you hang in there for one more hour?
Sure.
Alright, good.
I think we'll open the lines.
Now, the only...
The only thing I'm going to say right now is no readings, folks.
We don't do readings.
We're talking about the parapsychological world.
And surely my guest, Joseph DeLuise, has been squarely in the middle of that all his life.
But we're not going to do readings.
When we come back, we'll open the lines.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast Aeon from January 11th, 1999.
Aeon is a film about a man who lives in a world of war.
My guest is a psychic.
I guess that's a fair term to use.
It's the one that seems to describe, I don't know if it's a good one, Joseph DeLuise is his name.
And he's been doing this virtually all his life.
So, what can I tell you?
If you have a question for him, then we'd be glad to take it.
I want to remind you we're not doing readings.
We don't do those here.
We don't do individual readings.
So if you have a general question for Joseph, glad to take it.
And I can see there aren't many because everything's been packed since we went on the air.
So all of that is coming up.
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We've got Robert in Houston.
There's this lady that I've seen about four or five times in my lifetime.
She's tall and skinny.
She's got on some tight blue jeans, some Indian moccasins.
She's got on a rainbow striped poncho and a little flop hat.
I saw this woman when I was about eight or nine.
I saw her again.
I was living in Dallas, Texas.
I was on the bus and she was standing outside.
Did she look like she aged?
No, and here's the crazy thing.
About five years ago, me and two of my brothers, we all went on a cruise to St. Thomas
down in the very south.
Oh, no, don't tell me.
We got on one of these little Disney buses and my brother, he said,
see that lady over there?
I said, we saw that lady in Jacksonville.
Last November, my brother died.
He had woke up.
He was getting ready to eat his breakfast and everything.
And he said, oh!
He said, I gotta get off the phone.
He said, I got company.
He said, you know the lady we saw down in St.
Thomas?
He said, she's sitting over there in the chair.
He said, let me talk to her and I'll call you back.
Fifteen minutes later, my niece called back.
He was dead.
He was dead.
She was death.
Great story.
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 11th, 1999.
Getting late in Chicago, Joseph, how are you doing?
I'm doing great.
Doing alright?
Alright.
Alright, well let's see what awaits then on the phones for you.
Sure.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Joseph DeLuise and Art Bell.
Hi.
How are you doing, Art?
Can you hear me?
Barely.
Okay, how about now?
Just yell at us and we'll get it.
Okay, my question has to do with a spiritual question.
Alright.
I tend to believe that the way to the spirit world is within your mind.
I guess I'm talking about the third eye.
I've been trying to use that third eye.
Oh, the chakra stuff.
Exactly.
I've been trying to tap into that aspect of my spiritual life.
The third eye, yeah.
I'm having a hard time doing that and I was wondering if you could help me.
It takes a little time.
You've got to practice like anything else, like playing golf or playing tennis.
You've got to sit there.
And you've got to bring your attention to that area.
And of course, when you meditate on that area, you're bringing the chemistry, the chemicals, everything that needs to develop this third eye.
And you start seeing things and feeling things.
It's something that I use, but I don't call it the third eye.
I call it intuition.
But I understand what you're talking about.
You've studied Well, you're working on the chakras.
It does work, but you've got to work at it.
So, in your view, the name chakra or third eye, that's fine, but it's just one more pathway to the same place.
Right.
It's important that people learn how to meditate.
See, I feel you've got to turn on spiritually.
I hate to think spiritual things are religious things.
They are not.
They are the creative force that we have within ourselves, within our subconscious mind.
All these things are programmed and you know if you have a really desire to develop something
and you work at it, you'll develop it.
It's just like the crystal ball.
It's just a crystal ball but if you put the energy in meditating, relaxing, you put the
magic in your mind and in the crystal you start seeing things.
Some of the things might scare you.
I did ask you and you said yes there are special properties to crystal.
Then, on the other hand, you're saying, well, really it's coming from you.
Well, I do believe.
When we're talking about a pure crystal with absolutely no faults in it, which is very exciting.
And you just sit there, and you relax, and probably turn the lights down low, and have the light behind you, and look at it.
You start to see things.
But of course, what you're seeing, if you're not seeing it in the crystal, you're seeing it in your head.
But the crystal is a way of focusing your attention on that area.
What about this?
Near-death experiences.
I have a very good friend, Danion Brinkley.
I'm sure you've heard of him.
He's a very close friend.
He had several NDEs, became very psychic as a result of them.
But, you know, I've always wondered, Joseph, Nobody has ever come back from, you know, like two or three days of being dead, at least not for a couple thousand years, and so is it not possible that when you die, really die, that's it, lights out?
This is what I feel, but you created something within your own mind.
You created your own heaven.
You created the light, and of course that's a A wonderful feeling people who have experienced it.
Yeah, it's a good feeling.
They don't come back to tell us.
Nobody's ever came back.
But see, that's my point.
So isn't it possible that it's lights out and that's it?
No, I don't feel that's it.
Alright, that's what I wanted to get at.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Joseph DeLuise.
Hello.
Hello, can you hear me?
Just fine.
Where are you?
I'm in Marlington, West Virginia.
Name's Robert.
I even had to use my mind powers to get on this line.
Usually in a month I've tried.
What I've done is I dialed and then I kept pressing redown.
I said, wait a second.
I didn't press redown.
I didn't.
Sure enough, I got through.
What I was wondering, which I believe is true, maybe you can do a show on it to help people concentrate on good things.
Of course, you put a little fear into them of things more likely yet to come.
But, of course, you can see into the future, and many times I could see things and try to help people, but I believe you can make these things happen, too.
That's coming back full circle to where we were, Joseph.
In other words, you said yourself that you have done P.K.
You did it with Dice in Vegas.
Right, and that's healing, too.
You can do healing with P.K.
Kinesis.
Energy.
Psychokinesis.
All right, fine.
But why then should you not imagine that sometimes these things that you see that are going to happen, a ground-to-ground fire near the White House, a volcano erupting, are you sure that you're not causing these things?
I'm positive that I'm not causing it.
I mean, I've gone through this so many times With people, you know, people calling me up, Joseph, you're causing these things.
Oh, I'm saying, okay, so I make a prediction, nothing happens.
What is the proof?
Proof is nothing.
Or should I get on the phone?
You know, when I predicted the Indianapolis plane crash, I was on television, I made a prediction, I predicted how many people would be on, and what time of the day, three weeks later, two planes crashed in Indianapolis.
That never happened.
So I caused it.
Oh, that's pretty good.
Next thing I'll be doing is walking across Florida.
Well, let me know about that.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Joseph DeLuise.
Hi.
Where are you, please?
Oh, I'm in Florida.
Florida.
Okay.
Chilly Florida right now, but... Oh, you're going to have to yell at us a little.
You're not too loud.
Sorry.
Is that better?
Much better.
All right.
I have a question concerning Ouija boards.
I was told at one time that you can pull something through them.
And to be quite honest, I had a very bad experience with one and it scared the living daylights out of me.
And that's when I was told about this.
And I was just wondering how true that is.
Or if it's possible.
Well, you know, the Ouija board You contacted a nurse on spirits.
And because you were afraid, you gave it up or you burned it.
The best thing to do is burn it.
Don't give it to anybody.
We burned it.
Don't give that bad luck, that spirit to anyone.
We burned it.
It seems like I'm talking like I'm naive, but I've been involved in this work so long that I know there's something evil about it.
And people shouldn't even give it away as toys.
They shouldn't have it in the closet.
They should get rid of it.
I agree.
So do I. After the experience we had, we burned it.
Thank God!
I'll tell you, I've never seen something, I've never seen a fire quite like it.
It was very unusual.
You burn whatever it was, the spirit or the energy or whatever.
You know, a lot of people are going to run out and do this to buy it to see if they can do it.
I advise you not to.
And when it works?
That's when you've got problems.
Yeah.
Yeah, and you know what happened to the cat.
The curious cat.
Right.
Alright, thanks dear.
Thank you.
Take care.
You too.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Joseph DeLuise.
Hi.
Good evening, Art.
Good evening, Joseph.
Good morning, wherever you are.
You two will have to yell at us a little.
Let's start out with where you are.
I'm in California.
California, okay.
I'm one of your frequent callers relating some interesting phenomenons that have happened to me in the past, and I've made a number of predictions on your prediction line, which had come true, one being Bell's Hole a couple years ago.
And I've noticed, though, since 1999 is here, these various psychic feelings that I used to get are a little bit askew.
I used to feel like it goes somewhere and something good is going to happen to me there, but then it turns sour for some reason.
One of my questions is, have you noticed this is going to happen much in 1999 for people who have a psychic connection of some sort?
Well, between you and I, when you want something good and something It doesn't happen good.
It's usually you're storing up something good to hit, but there's nothing wrong with bad things happening.
Well, there was a feeling.
As long as you recognize it.
Well, in this one case, I felt something great was going to happen.
I got a work call today, and then within an hour, they called back and said, no, we don't need you.
Okay.
You know why?
It's probably going to get something better.
I remember a couple of years ago, I did a show in Pasadena, and actually, we had a big audit for him.
Hundreds of people showed up with their own boots.
We had not nobody come in.
I had two ladies come in that I gave a reading.
And both of these ladies were interested in some type of oil stock or getting rid of the oil stock.
Well, the point is, I turned around, gave the ladies the name of this lawyer that I knew that was in there, and I made a commission.
I made more than everybody made there, but something, not something bad.
Something that didn't happen turned up weeks later and benefited me.
You don't know.
It's growth, too.
I had a synchronicity thing happen to me today again, Art.
I heard compounding upstairs in an upstairs apartment.
I thought it was vacant, so I kind of looked out the window and said, what are they doing building a new house?
I went to the mailbox and saw the name of where it was being occupied.
People's last name were Newhouse.
And one other quick question then is how come you never hear of like an 8 or a 10 year old in America that has this incredible psychic ability where the teacher might have to call home and say, hey, your kid's too psychic.
Would you tell him to stop reading?
Well, you know what?
I'll tell you what I think about that.
And Joseph, we can talk about that a little bit.
I think that children are naturally psychic and that we are the ones who literally psychologically beat it out of them.
That's true.
That's true, they lose it by the time they're 8, 9, 10 years old.
But when they're little, you know, 7, 8, 9, they see things, they feel things.
In fact, when I was a child, my mother always used to take me on the side and ask me, what do you see about this?
How do you feel about this lady?
Then she'd drag me to church to pray.
You know, my thoughts were, leave me alone, I want to play!
So your mother, instead of saying, Joseph, stop that foolishness, your mother encouraged it.
My mother encouraged me.
I was like... No wonder.
I was like from the old country, and you know, she was always at church, and she believed I had the spirit, the heal, and she wanted me to be a priest.
I eventually became a minister 25 years ago.
I did it for Protecting what I was doing, and I continued doing it.
Now there's a fact I didn't know about you.
You were a minister?
Right!
For about 30 years.
But... Wow!
You see, I didn't have the calling.
You have to have a calling.
You know what?
I don't like to pass the basket.
You don't get donations.
And when I meditated, Spirit told me that Joseph You will be rewarded in another way.
You're a spiritual person.
You're helping people.
You don't have to have a church, but I do.
I get people that belong to it, people that we have meetings.
We try to raise money for organizations, this type of thing, and I like it.
And it's hard, really hard.
Let me get something going.
Grassroots.
Now, you sure you don't want to sell something?
I mean, you've got a book, don't you?
Well, I want to make a plea.
First thing, they can get my book in the library.
It's called Psychic Mission.
It's Regni by Tom Valentine.
Is it out of print now or still in print?
Oh, it's out of print.
It's out of print, so... But it's in the library.
In the library.
There's another one by Brad Steiger called Psychic Chicago.
There's a whole chapter about me in that I'm pretty sure They can get that in the library.
I think Brad Steiger writes books in his sleep.
I know!
That guy is great!
He's absolutely amazing, isn't he?
He is, really.
He's done a lot of shows together at the McCormick Place.
When he's on again, mention Joseph DeLuise.
He's the one that wrote about the plane crash hitting a mountain.
And of course, the article didn't come out until three months later.
All right.
And the plane crash happened two weeks after I predicted it.
I'll ask him as a matter of fact.
You'll ask him.
All right.
First time caller on the line.
You're on the air with Joseph DeLuise.
Mr. Bell.
Yes.
Where are you?
This is Quad Cities, USA.
Rock Island, Illinois.
Rock Island, Illinois.
All right.
Sir, turn your radio off.
Okay.
It's very important.
Okay.
Now, I'd like to know if Mr. DeLuise could identify a location of a potential situation, a city, state, and address.
No, we're not doing readings.
No, we're not doing it.
You didn't hear me?
No, I misunderstood.
Let him ask another question.
Do you have any other questions?
No, I just needed to know a potential location of a situation that is a dire situation.
Alright, well sorry, we're not doing that.
See, inevitably that's what people try to do, but oh well.
Well, it's all right.
Yeah, I know.
But they can't help themselves.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Joseph Deloes.
Hello.
Hi, gentlemen.
Bill from Youngstown, Ohio.
Hi, Bill.
Hi.
This, I want to run two things by you and Joseph.
One has to do with David Michael Oates, as per some things that have come up tonight, and if there's time, something on Chapquiddick.
I don't think I missed the program where you had Mr. Oates on.
Okay, but that's not for now, sir.
No, it has to do with Ouija boards, and I think that, and tape recorders.
I think you'd find it interesting what I have to say and I'd be interested in what Joseph says.
Nothing about predicting or anything.
I was very active in the physical community in New York City for 25 years and something became faddish in the 70s dealing with tape recorders.
I don't want to say what it is because I don't want your listeners to try it.
It's dangerous.
But it's in the same line of Ouija boards where under certain circumstances voices would appear and the more People did it the more demonic.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
You're talking about people who record the voices of the dead.
No.
This is something else.
No?
Or demonic voices or whatever.
Well, it's not exactly... I know what you're talking about.
This is slightly different.
And so many people started having so many problems that they quietly went to sleep.
I always had the feeling, through the years, that you and Mr. Osher would have a falling out.
Based on this, and I wonder what Mr. DeLuise thinks if the voices that come on the reverse playing of the tapes are, in fact, not related to the people that are on the forward playing of the tapes.
It could be some other forces.
All right.
Well, I don't know.
That's a question that would be utterly outside of Joseph's realm.
So, sorry about that.
And by the way, regarding predictions, They're made after the fact.
I'm not very impressed.
Predictions made after the occurrence, whatever it is, really are not too impressive.
In other words, predicting a falling out between two people, or predicting an airplane crash, you know, like two or three days after it happens, it's just not all that impressive to me.
All right, we'll take a break here at the bottom of the hour and do one more segment.
Joseph DeLuise is my guest.
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Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 11th, 1999.
Deluise, who has been for all his life a psychic, now in his seventies, he's got a very long record of hits in his predictions.
He's our guest.
We'll be right back.
Now we take you back to the night of January 11th, 1999, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Art Bell.
Back now to Joseph DeLuise.
I'd like to ask you a question.
Sure, fire away.
If a volcano blows its top, did I create it?
Well, I don't know.
I don't know.
How do you know you didn't?
It's just like you remember when you were meditating or you transmitted Uh, that Texas was dry to bring some rain.
Oh, you know about all of that, huh?
And then it rained, and then you got accused of flooding.
I know.
That's why I refuse to mess around with hurricanes.
Well, I just don't feel I lay here and got that, and I said to myself, I just see it, that's all.
I see.
All right, West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Joseph DeLuise and Art Bell.
Good morning.
Hi, Art.
Hi, Joseph.
Hi.
Art, I saw your picture in Entertainment Weekly.
No kidding?
Yeah, right about Millennium.
I didn't even know I was in there.
That should be fun.
Hey, I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah, they're going to pin the whole Millennium thing on me.
I'm waiting.
Captain Millennium?
No, Master Millennium.
Master Millennium, okay.
I don't know.
I don't know his answer.
I don't know that he has yet issued it.
I don't have the answer for you.
I have a question for Joseph.
Sure.
or i'm blame for everything else about it a com just real quick off the subject whatever happened to
drug is big announcement
i don't know uh... i don't know his answer i i don't know that he is uh...
yet issued it okay i don't have the asylum
have a question for joseph uh... a lot of times uh... this is kind of weird when i
drive under uh... walk under streetlights
they turn off or on it can happen quite a bit so i don't even you know it doesn't
surprise me anymore, but you think that's a coincidence?
No, that's psychokinesis.
Really?
Honestly, because a lot of times when I used to get mad or get upset, I would blow out a lamp, and people would say, oh my God, was it a coincidence?
I don't know, there's just something there, not mind over matter, but psychokinesis, to be able to cause things to happen.
Flickering lights, moving things around on the table.
You know, that's some type of energy that you have.
Too bad you can't put it into use.
Yeah, that's true.
Why don't you try playing dice?
He's got a good point.
Give it a shot.
Okay.
I mean, you know, don't take the family jewels down.
Give it a try.
The reason I ask you about cause and effect is because you told me yourself You have the power to affect things in the material world and so then why not events in time stream?
Let's make that, keep it simple, stupid.
What are you trying to say?
That I can make things happen?
I can make dice show up when they're listening to me and then they quit listening?
I don't understand the question.
The question is just an open one that I haven't only wondered about you, Joseph, but about these kinds of abilities generally.
In other words, there's a thin gray line between predicting an event and then causing an event.
Now, if you can cause a small event, then why can't you cause a larger event?
Oh, in other words, I can accuse you of causing a big event, Causing the floods?
No, absolutely!
You can, and I'll tell you, I don't necessarily... But you didn't do it alone, you did it with thousands of other people.
Maybe millions, that's right.
Maybe millions, right.
That's right, so... Is it possible?
I would say yes.
Is the power... You did something good and it turned out to be bad on top of it.
Is there anything to this?
Do you believe the power of millions of minds concentrating on a single event He is more powerful than one.
Not really, because years ago they tried to experiment to try to get rid of Hitler.
And they never got rid of Hitler.
There were groups set up in seances to transmit that something would happen to him.
Nothing happened.
But did they ever try millions of people at once?
Well, you know.
I thought, I really thought, and I'm still on the edge of trying it, but I thought once, why not have millions of people concentrate On a little tiny blood vessel in Saddam Hussein's head.
I'm not kidding.
I know, I know you're not kidding.
Why don't you try that?
Well, one of the reasons I haven't tried it is because probably I'd fall over dead.
No, what would happen if you're transmitting this He would get a little aneurysm.
He'd start a war and bomb everything and you'd be the cause of it.
Yeah, you're right.
See, that's why I don't do these things.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Joseph DeLuise.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
It's Greg from Elkhorn, California.
Yes, sir.
How are you doing tonight?
Fine.
Hi, Joseph.
How are you?
Not bad.
Good.
Hey, I've got kind of a two-part question for you.
Kind of a fun question.
What's the most frightening The experience that you've had personally in a seance in your life or the most frightening one that's been related to you?
The most frightening one was that we were having a seance with a group of about 12 people and there was one girl that was very jealous of another girl's pregnancy and this girl was positive that she caused her having what you call a miscarriage.
We broke up that group right away because Everybody wasn't in tune.
And that was a real negative type of thing.
Everybody was working against each other.
When everybody works with each other in a seance, something good can happen.
You can have a collective phenomenon where everybody would feel or see something.
But that's very, very rare.
Maybe out of 20, 30 seances, everybody would see the same thing or create something.
Depends who your leader is.
You've got to be led into these things.
Just a quick question for you.
Sure.
I know your episode of Millennium is coming up.
January 22nd.
It is January 22nd.
Yes, it is.
Okay, great.
That was it.
Thank you, gentlemen.
Okay, you bet.
Take care.
Bye-bye.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Joseph Delouise.
Hi.
Yes, hi.
It's so nice to talk to you.
I just found you a few months ago, if I'm not mistaken.
I think it was like the night that you disappeared.
I'm like, what is going on?
You came back and I'm so thrilled.
Anyways, I'm Catherine in Atlanta, curled up with some of my eight cats here.
First I have a comment about the fungus and the marijuana and then I have a question for Joseph.
Joseph, you're just wonderful.
You're hitting on so many cool things.
When this country was founded, were you aware that Jefferson and Washington and the founders of this country were all required to grow hemp?
It was such a valuable crop.
And now they won't allow nobody to grow hair, and to put it on the endangered species list purposely, which is what they're going to end up doing, I find absolutely amazing.
I'm sitting here crocheting hats and things out of hemp, which I do for a craft sort of a thing.
But anyways, Joseph, you mentioned your cat, and I know you're a cat lover, aren't you?
Do you feed off of their psychic energy in any way?
Do you find that, like you said, that cat was sitting on your nose?
Do you feed off of them?
Do they give you any enhancement to your psychic?
I do.
I look at her in the eyes and tell her, what do you want?
Get away from here.
And she meows and still sticks around.
I feel comfortable.
I've always had lots of cats and I do feel the psychic energies and things from them at times.
In fact, my nickname is Cat.
You know I just really feel like they're very psychic creatures and being as you said you had four of them I think.
Right.
I wonder if that contributed in any way.
Did you always have cats or?
Always had cats.
Me too.
I've always had cats and you know once in a while I sit around and I tell the cats to make a prediction.
Of course they meow, meow, meow.
They don't do anything.
They say well what good are you?
Oh we want to eat of course.
Let's go take you down to eat.
But I don't know I draw some energy on cats for some reason.
It makes me feel very comfortable and very loving.
Oh, yeah.
And very independent, too.
Well, good.
Then I don't feel like I'm totally nuts.
Because I do, too.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Joseph, do you think there is something particularly spiritual about cats?
Absolutely.
Well, maybe I heard, but was it Egypt?
They all had cats.
Well, I think the saying goes that Egyptians once worshipped cats, and cats have never forgotten this.
Well, my feeling is something to it, but, you know, I can't put my finger on it.
Well, of course, cats were always associated with witchcraft.
Oh, yeah, I know.
Especially black ones.
I won't let my black cat out, because I really don't want anybody to catch the cat and sacrifice it.
There are a lot of lunatics out there, and cats, they love to sacrifice.
In fact, this was when I was involved with the Zodiac, that I predicted this.
He was doing, you know, animal sacrifice, this type of thing.
There's a lot of crazy people out there, but I guess it takes a lot of people to make the world.
That's a little far out.
It does take a lot of people to make the world.
Right.
And you can't change it.
The world will always be the same.
Good things, bad things.
There's one reason I tell people a lot of bad things that happen to you are the good things.
Once they turn around.
That, of course, is true.
I remember I had a lady come to me and I told her, I feel real good with your job.
I feel a raise.
Well, she called me up three weeks later.
She says, I got fired.
You are absolutely wrong.
About a month and a half later, she called me up.
Joseph, you were right.
I got a different job.
It's better.
I'm making more money.
And I thought, well, you know.
It happened.
But that's like generic advice.
I mean, that almost happens to everybody who loses a job.
They end up with something better.
I mean, the grass is always greener.
I remember about 25 years ago on WLS, I was giving readings, you know, personal readings.
A lady called up.
And I said, I see four children around you.
She says, you're absolutely crazy.
I don't have any children.
I wouldn't have any children.
About six years later, she calls me up.
She says, Joseph, you were right.
I said, what?
She says, my son and my daughter-in-law were in a terrible accident.
Both of them got killed.
I ended up with the kids.
What else do you see?
I said, how do I know?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Joseph DeLuise.
Where are you, please?
I had a question for Joseph and then a real quick comment for you, Art.
Joseph, I don't know if I really have any psychic ability myself, but I have always been able to send a feeling like if I was really upset or something.
It's usually negative, but if I was really upset, I would be able to send a feeling to my grandmother.
She's over 350 miles away and she's always been on the receiving end.
She can read.
She can read you.
So it's not really me then, it's her.
So in other words, Joseph, it's her talent, not his big transmitter.
Well, let me put it this way.
You know, during the war, there were a lot of boys that went overseas.
A lot of boys that got wounded, and the mother would wake up in the middle of the night and say, something's wrong with my son.
They would feel it.
They didn't know exactly what was wrong.
Sure.
But there was this transmission, this, what do we call it, silver cord that transmitted.
And the mother wakes up in the middle of the night, and a couple of weeks later, she gets a telegram to send to the hospital, as she knew or felt it.
This is what happens to me with Daniel Brinkley.
In fact, it's irritating that he's so good at it.
I'll be in a crisis situation of one sort or another.
Daniel will inevitably call me and say, hey, what the hell's going on?
I mean, inevitably, every single time without fail.
And if he might go a month or two without calling me, something's going on in my life, big time, he's on the phone right away.
The man's very talented.
He can pick up your vibes.
Yeah, exactly.
I think you can.
I know you can.
You're sort of a pitch, some way or another.
Caller, you said you had something for me?
Yeah, your photo that you put on the web with that tunnel machine.
I work for Lockheed Martin Aerodynamics and we have a very high quality scanner and Monday I will scan it.
Is that in fact a tunneling machine?
Yes, it is.
But what was more interesting to me was not the machine itself, but the fact of the geographical location, the kind of rock.
Also, if you notice, there's a sign that you can't quite read.
It's blurry.
Yeah.
And I'm enhancing that Monday.
I'm going to find out.
I have no doubt that I'll be able to see what that sign says.
It could be just a danger.
Don't stand right here.
If that was a tunnel machine, that would be good advice.
Yeah, that would be good advice.
But if it was a A jet engine or a rocket engine, that would also be really sound advice.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
I'm from Huntington Beach, California.
Okay.
I had a comment and a question.
Fire away.
Comment basically for Joseph.
I kind of feel like for Joseph's been going through the mill with you about creating these earthquakes.
Yeah, I know.
It's phenomenal.
I totally agree that, you know, he doesn't create them, but I think that Because he's so sensitive and so aware, he picks up the vibration just like a dog would pick it up.
You do see animals pick up vibrations the week ahead.
I've done the same thing.
I've picked up earthquakes actually the day before.
So I know that we're not creating them, we're just tuned into them, just like a radio channel.
You're just on the frequency and you're able to pull it in and reach that frequency.
Also, I wanted to ask Joseph, I've had lots of psychic experience and things happen to We're bizarre, but I know it's from God and I just trust it.
Lately I've been having this thing with UFOs and it's just been only three times in my life, but the last couple times it's like I've almost been signaled to look up in the sky at a certain place.
Not signaled, but it's almost like I can't tell if it's my psychic ability saying they're out there and this is where you need to look.
It's like I've been really aware of this and the last couple times it's been I've looked, it's been there.
It's moved, I've looked again, it's been there, it's moved and it was almost like playing with me or teasing me but I've seen it and it's been in broad daylight and I don't know how to explain it if it's my psychic ability or my rods in my eyes because I've been more spiritually awakened to be able to see this vibration or what it is exactly.
Does he have any comment on that?
Sure, it could be.
I hate to say this, because I have a lot of people come in.
It could be that there's bacteria in our eyes a lot of times.
No, it's not that.
Move along.
Yeah, it's not that.
You know how you know when you know?
How do you know?
When you know.
Your inner self just knows when you know.
Just like when you know you have a... It doesn't require you to be able to see things that other people can't see.
Just like when you have an experience and you know it's real for you.
Right, it's your reality.
It's definitely reality.
And I always wonder, because I've heard different things about UFOs, that they're actually not Yeah, I don't know.
That's what I wanted to ask.
I don't know if it's wired for me.
I think it's more like you've grown into your awareness to be able to pick up and finally
tune into that vibration.
It's almost like the psychics have become finely tuned and they can pick up that thought
wave or that pattern and get the premonition.
The truth is this, my feeling is with all this television, all these radio and all this about flying saucers, sometimes that goes into the subconscious mind when you're unconscious, when you're sleeping or resting and actually You start seeing these things, but they're from your own head.
I'm not accusing that it's in your own head.
See, again, it might be my fault, because I do a lot of shows on these kinds of things.
People fall asleep with their radios on.
Right.
Now, what happens is when they fall asleep, they can't intellectualize that they're sleeping, and their analyzer is sleeping.
And so what happens a couple of weeks later, a couple of months later, they call you up and they tell you they were abducted.
They're positive.
And, uh, we have an abduction here.
And if you put them under a lie detector, they can pass!
Oh, yeah?
Sure!
Because they believe it!
It's there!
So, I guess that's where we'll leave it.
You know, we're out of time, but Joseph, it really has been a giant pleasure having you on the program, and, uh, is there any way for people to contact you?
You know, I'm looking... Well, let me put it this way, because I really...
I don't like to give personal readings, but I do have a little pamphlet put together.
It's called, It's All in Your Mind.
And I can make a couple of hundred copies or whatever.
And I can mail them out.
If they send me a self... What is it?
A self-addressed stamped envelope.
So in other words, you're not asking for any money.
Just send a self-addressed stamped envelope.
Right.
And make sure they put the new stamp on.
Oh, the new 33 cents stamp.
Right.
And I'll be glad to insert it and put a couple of things.
That's it.
Alright.
Okay.
All right, my friend.
Thank you so much.
Sure.
Thank you.
And good night there, folks, is Joseph DeLuise.
Tomorrow night, Y2K and the Power Grid.
It should be very, very interesting.
But for tonight, I'm afraid we are out of time, as my friends in Western Canada would say.
So, for now, from the high deserts, I'm Art Bell.
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