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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - William Henry - America's Secret Destiny

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	Welcome to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from the 5th of January, 1999.
	From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, or good morning, as the case may be in whatever time zone you reside in.
	Doesn't really matter, does it?
	I guess, unless we're date sensitive.
	From the Hawaiian and Tahitian Islands out West Eastward to the Caribbean South into South America North all the way to the Poland Worldwide on the Internet.
	Thanks to Broadcast.com.
	Thank you Broadcast.com.
	This is Coast to Coast AM and beyond.
	I'm Mark Bell.
	Well alright, I'd like to welcome WQYX in Joplin, Missouri.
	Now that's a pretty cool place to be, Joplin, Missouri.
	And, uh, I suspect they're heard over a pretty wide area down there.
	They're, uh... 10 KW at 1560.
	Now, that's very interesting, because... I've got another station in California town at 1560, one of my affiliates.
	Baker's Field.
	And, um... So, uh, we sort of fill in the middle country part of the country now on that, uh, frequency.
	So, welcome, Joplin.
	You have no idea what you're getting into.
	Neither do I. That's the nature of this program, I guess.
	Next hour, we are going to talk with a very, very, very interesting person.
	His name is William Henry.
	And what he says is that America has a secret destiny.
	And he goes on to say that with regard to America, he came to America 2,000 years ago to spread a secret message and to hide a device.
	And he's returning this summer.
	Now, if that doesn't grab you, if you're even a semi-regular listener, And that does not grab you by the privates and yank at you a little bit, then you haven't been listening.
	This summer, like July, July of this summer, is that month and year beginning to mean something to you?
	Boy, a lot of people talking about July of 99.
	What in the world do you think is going to happen?
	Well, he returns this summer.
	William Henry will be here at the top of the next hour to tell us who he is, what the device is, and what's coming in July.
	The Midwest, the Upper Midwest and Midwest is, even back to the East Coast, suffering cold.
	And I mean really, really cold, sub-zero conditions.
	As a matter of fact, it's more or less colder there than it is in Alaska.
	Even the highest portions of Alaska, when you get up near the circle, it's colder down here.
	Not bad where I am right now, about 69 degrees in my studio and about 34 outside.
	So, those are the present conditions.
	I worry more about the inside conditions than I do the outside conditions.
	Clinton faces Senate trial.
	President goes on trial on Thursday, although agreement eluded party leaders on the length of the proceeding.
	The Republicans wanted it to be until the next election, and the Democrats want it over on Friday.
	No, it's not really that bad, I'm kidding.
	They say Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott said it has to be done not only expeditiously, but fairly.
	Now, there's going to be a lot of scrutiny, of course, because the president has a 75% approval rating right now.
	I'm sure that makes all of them on the Hill, really, both parties tread very, very, oh, very carefully.
	They do not tread upon 75% approval rates.
	That's not the nature of politics.
	You know, certain things are fixed, and that's why you don't hear me talk a lot about politics, because it's all, you know, it's all fixed, folks.
	Both parties, they rule the same way.
	Four U.S.
	Air Force and Navy jets got into dogfights, fired on and missed four Iraqi MiGs testing the no-fly zone.
	Let's think about that a little bit.
	Four U.S.
	Air Force Navy jets fired on, fired missiles, and missed the Iraqi jets, the MiGs.
	Now that's kind of interesting in a way.
	You know, the story goes on from here, but that's the part that I noticed.
	We're supposed to have really, really good air-to-air missiles.
	Really good.
	But we fired four, at least, maybe, you know, more than that.
	Four jets fired missiles, and every one of them missed.
	Now, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me like there's some kind of message there.
	And speaking of messages, I've been getting a lot of faxes from Albuquerque.
	I know a lot of you in Albuquerque listen to K.O.B., the monster 770 monster in Albuquerque.
	Just a monster of a signal.
	You know, for anybody out in this part of the country traveling, I mean, you can't miss, uh, KLB 770.
	You can't miss them.
	They're just, uh, they are to the west what WABC is to the east.
	77 WAB.
	secret aside dot your last hour uh... or
	uh... uh...
	as passion builder really But I got a note saying that KOB has done quite a bit lately on, guess what, the Y2K problem.
	And all of a sudden, as the calendar flipped over, it's like somebody flipped a switch.
	And now that which could not be talked about in the mainstream media last year, now it's hard to talk about anything else.
	It's everywhere.
	The Y2K bug.
	It's like somebody said, OK, it's Y2K awareness time.
	Click.
	And I wouldn't know what to imagine.
	I could imagine that over the last better than year that we've been harping on it here, and I mean harping on it, that we finally made a dent.
	But I could also imagine that I didn't have a thing to do with it and that somehow whoever sits in that high chair Above all media.
	Through the switch.
	And all of a sudden it was time to talk about Y2K.
	Anyway, I've got some pretty interesting stuff on Y2K here.
	For example, this one.
	Dear Art, have you gotten any information from your audience regarding problems with banking or other systems today?
	Because today I was in a store shopping with my husband for groceries and there to fill a prescription for him.
	We shop at this store frequently and also fill prescriptions there.
	While I was at the checkout counter, my husband went to get the script.
	When I went to pay with a check from our checking account, which holds over $3,000, the checker told me my count was invalid.
	After a little bit of talk, she had me speak with someone who double-checked and confirmed that my account was supposedly invalid.
	Well, ironically, I simply walked to the ATM, Withdrew the money to pay for the groceries from the same account.
	Meanwhile, my husband was being told that his prescription could not be filled because he was, as of 1999, no longer listed on the insurance policy, which is under his name through his employer.
	Standing next to him in line was another man who was being told an identical story by the pharmacist.
	Is Y2K already impacting us?
	I think so.
	Here's another one.
	Is the Y2K problem showing up at your early art?
	I thought you might be interested in this.
	I'm an engineer for a TV station in Minnesota.
	All of our commercials are scheduled to play on the air with the help of a computer program.
	I understand that, and I used them too.
	That contains a daily program log.
	And I was called in early morning on December 31st, because the log for that day wouldn't load up.
	It had been created properly.
	You could go into an editing program and see the day's log, plain as day, but the program controlling what goes out to the air acted like the date of December 31st did not exist, and I couldn't figure out what was causing the problem.
	Call the software manufacturer for technical assistance.
	As I was speaking with him about this problem, he got two more pages from broadcasters having the same problem.
	Nobody ever figured out what was wrong, but we did get a way to get things on the air.
	The program called up the January 1st log without a problem.
	Interestingly, a sister station of ours, which uses the same software, but for the old version of Windows 3.1, did not see the problem.
	Our version runs on Windows NT, and it was interesting that just a few weeks ago, the manufacturer had been able to upgrade their own product, plus put in fixes from Microsoft, supposedly for the Y2K problem.
	I have the following from Singapore.
	Singapore.
	Singapore's first reported computer failure caused by the Millennium Bug struck an unlikely target.
	Taxi meters in Singapore.
	A full year before 2000.
	Computerized meters on about 300 taxis went dead, D-E-A-D dead, at noon January 1st for about two hours, according to the Sunday Times.
	New meters were supposed to be year 2000 compliance, said the report.
	The meter is now investigating, trying to figure out what's going on.
	But you know, I was told, now listen to me very carefully, that only 8%
	of the Y2K impact is going to occur January 1st, 2000.
	The other 92% is going to be scattered between 1999 and through the year 2000.
	So, it's just the barest beginning, but guess what, folks?
	It has begun.
	And we haven't reached any of the critical dates yet.
	I think that they begin in the spring.
	And then, of course, summer.
	I know July is going to, no doubt, be a problem.
	Because a lot of economic calendars flip over in July.
	That's going to be interesting.
	Very, very, very interesting.
	But the first vibrations are certainly upon us.
	Okay, we're going to... I've got a lot of information here, which I'm... I just can't get to it all.
	I want to get to open lines.
	and we will do that in a moment.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	tonight featuring coast-to-coast AM from January 5th 1999 Melissa in Las Vegas sent me
	a copy of a Review Journal article that's a Las Vegas newspaper
	um Which is not quite totally legible, and I really want another copy of it.
	It may have been an AP story picked up by the RJ in Las Vegas, or they may have originated the story.
	This looks more like it would be a Wire story.
	And I am intrigued, and I would like the story.
	It may be that Keith Rowland, the world's best webmaster, can dig it up.
	The title of the article is Simultaneous Deaths Defy Explanation and basically it suggests that what goes on experts question if it is science of the soul at work when closely linked people die at very nearly the same time and I'm sure you've heard it I've heard it we've all heard it he dies She follows him.
	She dies.
	He follows her.
	Soul partners.
	Soul mates.
	Following each other.
	Now, of course, you can say, well, it's just synchronistic.
	You know, people just sort of get sick at the same time.
	But I think there's more to it than that.
	Don't you?
	I definitely think there's more to it.
	Melissa, thank you very much for sending this, listening to 105.1 in Las Vegas.
	But I want the article, and I may want to interview somebody on this subject.
	They have statistical evidence showing that many couples follow each other into death's door.
	They just do it.
	and uh... you know again you have uh... there's a movie uh... what dreams may come it's called and you must see that movie now it's still i think in the theaters i'm not sure uh... if not then you'll get a chance when it comes out to videotape or eventually the pay services or whatever what dreams may come you must see that movie robin williams All right, let's see what calls may come.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Eric.
	Where are you?
	I'm near Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
	Toronto, okay.
	And the weather's been really bad here.
	We've had lots of snow like everyone else has in this region.
	How cold up there?
	Well, do you know your Celsius and Fahrenheit?
	Not real well, and please don't send me scales, everybody.
	I've tried to resist learning.
	Well, in American, it's 25 degrees, and I live near Buffalo.
	You mean 25 degrees below zero?
	No, well, 25 above.
	Well, that's not so bad.
	With the wind, it's bad.
	Well, with the wind, it's bad, but sometime I try.
	I've been in 60 below with wind.
	Really?
	Where were you?
	I was on the Alcan Trail in the Yukon on the way up to Alaska.
	Driving.
	Wow.
	That's wicked.
	That would really scare me.
	I wouldn't go that far.
	You must have been with some Eskimos or Inuits or... No, no, no, no.
	I drove that all by my lonesome self.
	Three times.
	Not once.
	Three times.
	Three times I drove the Alcan Trail.
	And that's back when a lot of it didn't have pavement.
	It was fun.
	It was cool.
	It was an adventure.
	You know, I got attacked by bears and all kinds of stuff happened.
	I could tell stories.
	Actually, there's some stories about it I can't tell.
	What brought you out there?
	I went to work in Alaska.
	I did the morning show for three years at KENI in Anchorage.
	And I just, you know, I wanted to go to Alaska.
	And so I did.
	Are you happy the Russians sold America to Alaska?
	Well, of course I'm happy.
	Uh, you know there's, uh, one guy over there, should he get into office, says he's gonna take Alaska back.
	You know about that, right?
	Back from... from... from... Us.
	The U.S., sir.
	Take it back.
	They want it back.
	They say it was a bad deal.
	Sorry, no returns.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	This is Premier Networks.
	That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	on this Somewhere in Time.
	I'm going to be doing a little bit of a background on the
	music that I'm going to be playing.
	So I'm going to be playing a little bit of the music that I'm going to be playing.
	This is Lorena McKinnon.
	And in this real time of fear, when the trees are crowned with leaves,
	And in this real time of fear, when the trees are crowned with leaves,
	And in this real time of fear, when I was caught with the breath of a woman,
	And in the moonlit night, She's really interesting, Lorraine McKenna.
	I saw her in Vancouver Live and she was every bit this good.
	So was Neil Diamond.
	God, that was a blast.
	Alright, I've got a lot to say here, I guess, so let me say a little more of it.
	The Friday program coming up this Friday is Disclosure 99.
	It's a big program.
	Let me give you a few A few hints, all right, of what's going to occur during the five hours, Friday night through Saturday morning, all right?
	William Burns, well, Steve Bassett, of course, from Washington, D.C., will be here.
	William Burns, publisher of UFO Magazine and co-author of The Day After Roswell, is going to be here.
	He'll have new info.
	Dr. John Brandenburg, a member of the SPSR group, contributor to the case for the face, you know, the one on Mars.
	The gazillionaire, Joseph Firmage, way back responsible for the majestic, new majestic documents that we've got.
	Founder of U.S.
	Web Corporation, author of The Truth, will be here.
	Dr. Stephen Greer, Seasat Ease, Dr. Stephen Greer is going to be here.
	Richard Hoagland, founder of Enterprise Mission, is going to be here, author of The Monuments of Mars.
	Peter Gersten?
	Peter Gersten, of course.
	And one of Ufology's only attorneys will be here.
	Jim Mars, author of The Alien Agenda, will be here.
	Are you beginning to get the idea?
	It's going to be a big program.
	Now, somebody sent me this.
	I've got a web address here.
	It's somewhere at ABC News, I guess.
	Daily News.
	The subject of cults.
	Jason in Salem writes, hey Art, here's something that I thought you might like.
	I emailed you about this as well.
	Check out the website at blah blah blah.
	And he says, so Seasetti is a millennium cult now?
	I love the media.
	Signed, Jason.
	So they're trying to slide Seasetti into the millennium cult?
	A category?
	Now isn't that something?
	Then they'll probably put me there too, won't they?
	They're gonna start saying Art Bell is a millennium cult.
	I bet.
	And I was thinking maybe I shouldn't disappoint them.
	Maybe, you know, maybe I should begin, maybe I should get a robe.
	Like Superman had.
	And put a giant M on it.
	And I should wear the robe on the program every night.
	Wouldn't that give them something to talk about?
	Mr. Millennium and his cult.
	And ladies and gentlemen, tonight's secret numbers are 19.5, 33, and 11.
	19.533 and 11. Those are the secret numbers for tonight.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from January 5th, 1999.
	Ted is in Winston-Salem, North Carolina now.
	It's 17 degrees there.
	See, so it's warmer in Toronto than it is in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
	Think about that.
	He says, Art, I run a hotel at 9-3rd shift.
	Of course, we take credit cards at check-in time.
	The credit cards are, you know, how they swipe them through their little computer.
	No problem with the 2,000 dates, but credit cards taken in the restaurant or lounge, I have to enter those manually, and guess what?
	Any credit card with an expiration date in 2000, the computer kicks them back out with a message, invalid expiration date.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Because I've got one of my credit cards that ends in 00, and it's gone through, I've used it a few times, it's gone through, but I think we are, you know, we're seeing the, we're seeing the beginning of the millennium bug, just the first few little flutters of occurrences.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yeah, hi.
	You caught me by surprise.
	Let me turn the radio off real quick.
	All right.
	Well, never be surprised.
	I mean, if you're dialing, there's always some possibility you might... Okay.
	Where are you, sir?
	I'm in Houston.
	John?
	Yes, John.
	First of all, I'd like to tell you a quick Viagra joke.
	I don't know if you heard it.
	You know what?
	Already, as soon as you say Viagra joke, I think, I can't air this.
	Uh-oh.
	You know, I mean...
	There's almost no good Viagra joke that you can air.
	The good ones, all the good ones, you can't air.
	Okay, well, it is clean.
	There's no pissing in it.
	It's clean?
	Well, I don't say any cuss words.
	Well, I know, but you can say some pretty nasty things without saying cuss words.
	Okay, I'll just pass that.
	Okay.
	The reason I wanted to call you, I've never heard this on your show before, but See, that's really good.
	I make my listeners judge their own jokes before they tell them.
	They save me the trouble.
	Yes, anyway, you were saying?
	What I've never heard on the show before is how actors or celebrities die in threes all the time.
	Well, it's true.
	Yeah.
	Or at least it seems to be true.
	It's either... One of two things is so.
	Number one, it is true and they die in threes.
	Or number two, we have I mean, let's face it, people are dying all the time, right?
	It's probably like seeing that 11-11 number all the time.
	Something like that.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I mean, people are dying all the time.
	It's a continuing process.
	It's like Iron Eyes Cody died yesterday, so I guarantee you another one's going to die this week or next week.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And we put three together.
	But then on the other side of the coin, maybe it's real.
	Somebody needs to do some research.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, yeah, really.
	Like they need three at a time up there or something like that.
	But they are doing research now about men and women who are married, who love each other dearly, and they seem to die within very short periods of time.
	Now, that's whether they're old or young?
	Yeah, mm-hmm.
	Oh, because I've always heard, you know, when they're up in their 80s and stuff, one dies, the other one goes.
	Yeah, I would imagine that would be more likely.
	Right.
	So statistically, they're going to need to show A bunch, but they do think they're on the track of that, and there might be something to it, you know?
	Okay, you take care.
	And if people die of broken hearts, you know, that can happen.
	I think it can happen, because you give up.
	And your mind really does control, to some degree anyway, your body.
	And you just give up, and you don't want to live.
	And once you don't want to live, then I think it's a whole lot easier for something to get Anyway, that's my off-the-hip guess.
	What do I know?
	Wellston and the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Now we'll push the button.
	Wellston and the Rockies, now you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello there.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Turn your radio off.
	Oh, OK.
	OK.
	Good for you.
	My name's Tyler, and I'm on Como News Talk 1000.
	Where?
	Como News Talk 1000.
	Oh, yes, in Seattle.
	Yeah.
	OK.
	When are you going to have Dr. Reed on?
	I just had him on.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	When?
	We did a whole show with Dr. Reed last week.
	Oh.
	Oh?
	Yeah, we did a whole show where the audience got to ask him questions.
	Do you have a computer?
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Go back and listen to the archive.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Thank you.
	Later.
	That's what the archives are for.
	East of the Rockies, you're on air.
	Good morning, Arth.
	This is Marcia in Fort Smith, Arkansas, listening on KWHN 1320 AM.
	Yes, way to do it, Marcia.
	Thank you.
	I've got three different things to tell you, so I'll hurry.
	Number one, right across the river in Van Buren, we have a store that opened up October 1st that advertises itself as a Y2K Preparedness Center.
	Really?
	They are very reasonable on their prices.
	They have weekly meetings.
	It's support group, education, Amy, wait a minute, this is in Fort Smith, Arkansas?
	Actually, the store is across the river in Van Buren, Arkansas.
	In Van Buren, Arkansas?
	I mean, Fort Smith, I've heard of Van Buren, I've never even heard of it.
	And Van Buren has a Y2K preparedness store?
	Yes.
	That's amazing!
	And they only have a population of about 14,000.
	That's absolutely amazing!
	Oh, it's wonderful!
	And I bet there's not a Y2K preparedness store in Los Angeles or New York.
	I have no idea.
	We actually have.
	And guess what I bought there today?
	What?
	A Beijing Freeplay Radio AM FM shortwave.
	Good for you.
	We have no credit cards, or we would have already had one from C. Crane Company, but this one was priced under $100.
	Yep.
	These people are very, very reasonable on their prices, and like I said, this one has the shortwave.
	It's not just AMFM.
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	The only thing you don't have is, of course, the light.
	Right.
	We don't have the light, but I do have the $35 flashlight from Sea Crane.
	Then you have light, then?
	Oh, yes.
	And the third thing I wanted to tell you.
	Yes?
	At the meeting tonight, there's a young lady that moved down here from Branson, Missouri, right around the end of the year and December 31st.
	She was trying to close out her checking account in Branson.
	She had just a little over a thousand dollars in there.
	They gave her the third degree.
	They even took her back into a private office, demanding to know why she was getting her money out.
	They even went out and checked her car to find out what kind of car she drove.
	There are stories circulating that the Federal Reserve is going to begin to Encourage banks to do what's called profiling their customers.
	In other words, watch for any unusual patterns of withdrawal or deposit.
	That was supposed to have gone into effect December 27th.
	You know about that.
	Evidently it has.
	Yes, sir.
	Yep, I know.
	Some weird stuff is happening.
	Thank you very, very much for your call.
	You're exactly right.
	Or how about this one from Michael.
	Art, yeah.
	I had some weird things happen to my bank account over the weekend at the turn of 99.
	Every time I withdrew, get this folks, every time I withdrew $20 from the ATM, my account registered a $20 deposit rather than a withdrawal.
	Sunday night, I tested this and I withdrew $200 and it came out as a $200 deposit.
	By Monday my account then registered negative $1,000.
	An hour later, it came out as $28.68.
	Well, I called my bank.
	They said, sorry, we're having problems.
	And I really have no idea what I have in my account now.
	Well, Michael, that's why Mama told you to keep a record in your checkbook.
	But it's another indicator.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Oh, we just missed you.
	Sorry about that.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	Yes.
	I am in Hawaii.
	My wife thinks she's figured out what crop circles are caused by.
	On what does she base that?
	Well, I've never heard the theory until she expressed it and that she thinks it's coming
	from under the soil, either some kind of microbe or bacteria and it's an attempt to communicate
	with those of us who live on top.
	You mean it's bug talk?
	Bug talk, you got it.
	It's bug talk.
	Bug talk.
	And of course they haven't quite figured out what language we speak so they're still speaking
	bug.
	Yeah, you know bug talk is really as good an explanation as anyone can think about it.
	If they did have some form of intelligence that we didn't know about, how would they
	communicate that to human beings?
	Well, exactly.
	They might do exactly what you just said.
	Right.
	They wouldn't go on the internet.
	They'd go on the interweet.
	I have no argument for that.
	Okay, sir.
	I tried to get it in on a prediction because I'm sure that by the end of the year, It'll certainly be a known accepted fact, and I'm looking forward to hearing it in the major media.
	Thank you.
	All right, my friend.
	Take care.
	It is every bit as good a theory as anybody else's about crop circles.
	Bug talk.
	That the bugs are trying to communicate with mankind.
	Well, if that's true, what are they saying?
	Maybe the crop circles Mean nothing more than breadcrumbs please.
	Something like that.
	What do you think?
	Should I get a cape with a big M on it?
	I mean the media during 99 is going to be oriented toward trying to label everybody cults or cult leaders or something like that.
	I'm sure that's coming.
	There's already a lot of stuff in the newspapers about it so I could have fun with them.
	I could put on a big It would have to be black cape with an M for Mr. Millennium.
	And I can keep issuing secret numbers each night.
	On the international line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hey Art, it's Jessie in British Columbia calling.
	Hello, Jessie.
	The lady that phoned you from Arkansas brought up a really interesting point that I don't know if you've noticed.
	What?
	I saw something on TV today about Y2K that Really kind of tweaked my interest.
	This guy, this reporter, an American reporter doing a feed onto a Canadian network, did a survey of the internet of how many Y2K sites he could find.
	And he claims that he could not find a single Y2K site that wasn't selling something.
	Well, there's a lot to sell.
	I mean, it's really true.
	There is a lot to sell.
	There is a lot to sell, particularly if your business is scaring the hell out of people and then convincing them you've got their salvation in your hands.
	Well, basic preparations, though.
	Oh, I'm not against basic preparations at all.
	Well, that's what they're selling, and they're doing it.
	There's no question about it.
	They're doing it because people are beginning to get frightened about what's coming, and maybe they have some cause to be.
	Well, anybody who isn't a little scared at this point is out of their mind.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	So, you know, actually that's a pretty good idea, I think.
	Look, I don't know, if people prepare and then nothing happens at all, when Y2K time comes, then that's great, that's great.
	Because, do you know, let me give you an independent fact.
	There have been more disasters in this country This last year than in the previous many, many years.
	In other words, something's going on and a lot of people are out of power.
	There's a lot of disaster going on and having people prepared is a good thing.
	I think the disasters that we've all been suffering through worldwide, you know, North America and Europe, have actually been Universal Energy's way of letting us know that we need to get ready, pointing out to us the things that are going to happen if we're not.
	People in Quebec, Out of power for 35 days!
	I know.
	And I can remember something that happened in a small town city not too far from me here this summer.
	They had to shut down the water treatment plant and nobody could get any water.
	And people were phoning up just in a panic to this one call-in radio show.
	What do I do?
	What do I do?
	And this old fella phones up and said, Are you people all completely stunned?
	There's a river running right by your door.
	You go down there with a bucket, you scoop some water up, you haul it home.
	And they hadn't thought of it.
	And I'm wondering to myself, how many people are going to be able to survive this?
	But I think that going back to the original idea that many of the people that are talking Y2K have got something to sell, by that being the case, if it is the case, a lot of people are going to become really jaded about it and not do anything to protect themselves.
	They're going to just think it's a big racket.
	Yeah, that's possible, sure.
	I personally haven't yet figured out what's going to happen, but I'm beginning to see a lot of stories, as I have detailed to some degree tonight, that the first little flickers of the whole thing are beginning to appear.
	Well, I got my own interesting little bank story.
	You do?
	Over the holidays, I completely drained my account.
	I just was very bad.
	I was very bad to the point that I almost didn't have the rent money.
	You bought and bought.
	I was supposed to be like minus ten in my bank account.
	And I phoned up the bank today to see what was going on, and I got like $400 too much money in there.
	Really?
	And you know what?
	I didn't tell them.
	That's going to be my next question.
	You didn't tell them?
	I can't.
	If I can't pay the rent and I can't feed my kid, my morality will kick in sometime later in the week.
	And what will you do later in the week?
	Are you trying to tell me you'll go down to the bank and you'll say, I didn't tell you earlier in the week, but... Yeah, I'll pay the money back.
	Banker in my favor, $400.
	Yeah.
	Because it's the right thing to do.
	But this week, I've got to pay the rent.
	You know?
	I mean, I've done that before.
	I went shopping one time.
	Grocery shopping.
	And I paid in hundreds.
	And the woman gave me my change in twenties.
	Well, four twenties.
	Or three.
	All three of the 20s that she gave me were stuck together, and I didn't discover it until I was in my truck on my way home.
	So I got six instead of three, and I turned around and drove back.
	I don't make a lot of money.
	I'm a single mom, and I get by on $800 a month.
	The fact of the matter is that that person is audited at the end of the day, and if they have blown it in your favor, they've got to pay it.
	That comes out of their pocket.
	That's right.
	So that's a good thing to do.
	It's something I can live with.
	It's a little tougher judgment when a bank or an insurance company says you have more than you're supposed to have.
	You spend at least a minute sitting there thinking, hmm, do I really want to run down and tell them about this right away or should I just sort of wait and see what happens?
	And I think that fully 75% of the people out there would wait and see what happens.
	There's going to be a lot of opportunities for this kind of ethical 101 test coming up in the year 2000 as the Millennium Pug.
	He creates a crop circle and says, guess what folks, you're dust.
	The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	More somewhere in time coming up.
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	I don't know.
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	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from the 5th of January, 1999.
	Good morning, or good evening, as the case may be.
	Your time zone taken into consideration.
	Comes to us in a moment, William Henry, author of The Peacemaker and the Key of Life, One Foot in Atlantis, The Secret Occult, in history of world war two and its impact on new age politics and actually we're going to be discussing some very provocative statement that uh... he has made which is as follows he came to america two thousand years ago to spread a secret message and hide a device he's returning this summer so it should be an interesting interview
	Secret Knowledge and the Millennium.
	So you see here, we have an opportunity to live up to our, no doubt, soon-to-be reputation to be Millennium Master.
	We've got a link up there now to an article that's been written that apparently is linking C-SETI, you know, Stephen Greer's organization, ABC article I think it is, to uh... saying there's some kind of uh... millennium cult or something.
	Can you imagine that?
	steven grier c sedi uh... millennium cold that's really quite a stretch
	so me i thought what the hell you know all just uh...
	all just help them uh... and all ball get myself and with big
	am on it all call my son myself millennium master or something and boy
	that'll give us something right about her but but but
	so the media really is uh... there's some piece of work in
	this country uh... there's a lot of organizations you might uh... dub as
	calls but steven grisley said he would not be one of them but that's
	probably what they've done So if you're curious about that article, you can see it up on the website.
	In a moment comes William Henry.
	And yes, we will talk about the Millennium.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 5th 1999.
	Alright, now this is going to be really interesting.
	Thank you.
	Now who is William Henry?
	Among other things, William Henry had a private meeting with Mother Teresa just months before her death.
	There he gathered some insight that he is going to share with you.
	He is going to discuss the mission of the King of Terror.
	How Steven Spielberg's films encode the return of the peacemaker.
	The role Y2K plays.
	Scam.
	Scam, he says.
	Why April 1st of 99 could be a pivotal day in human history.
	And so here he comes.
	William Henry, welcome to the program.
	Thank you, Art.
	Hello, everybody.
	William, what do you think?
	Should I get a black cape and put a big M on it so that I could feed the media?
	I love it.
	You know, we need to feed the media to somebody.
	I mean, it's not just the American media.
	I caught a story out of the London Observer the other day that was just hammering this material.
	I mean, they talked about the King of Terror and the word cult was spread throughout it.
	And this problem goes, seems to me, back at least to that Heaven's Gate fiasco when you had People at Newsweek Magazine writing in kind of a yuck-yuck style that those people said, oh, they're going to a star called Sirius!
	Can you believe it?
	And it's like they've never, ever heard of Sirius and the role that it's played in religions throughout the world.
	And you've just got to wonder what's going on with these people.
	Indeed, on my website right now, Seasetti, which is Dr. Greer's organization, is lambasted as being a cult, a millennium cult.
	I guess I could be either Mr. Millennium or Master Millennium, but either way, that'd be Eminem.
	That wouldn't be good.
	That works.
	It is a theme song.
	Might I propose Roy Orbison's Running Scared?
	Oh, that'd be good.
	Because that's what they're doing.
	They're running scared.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, listen, maybe there's some reason to be scared if I, you know, if I'm reading your material correctly.
	Let's just start right out.
	I mean, this statement you've made, he came to America 2,000 years ago to spread a secret message and to hide a device.
	He's returning this summer.
	Well, well, well, well.
	We are talking about Jesus?
	We are talking about, more than likely, the Essene teacher of righteousness.
	We all know that Jesus was in Essene.
	Otherwise known as, to the masses, Jesus.
	You're saying Jesus is coming back.
	Yes.
	I'm also saying, in the Essene tradition, again, Jesus was in Essene, they were anticipating the arrival of not one Messiah, but two Messiahs working together.
	Jesus from the branch of David, and then another figure they called the Interpreter of the Word.
	In other words, a person that would disseminate, explain, and ...and interpret the teachings of the Christ or Messiah.
	This relationship between the two figures began to emerge in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which, of course, have been covered up by many mainstream Judeo-Christian scholars because it pries open this relationship and gives us a peek behind the inner workings of the Essenes.
	Indeed, the scrolls are believed to be full of sensitive details about the Essenes, their life at their home in Qumran, and the exact nature of their secrets.
	And these secrets revolve around the name Qumran, their home, which translates into the secret of the pillars.
	And it turns out that the Essenes and Jesus, and indeed his partner John the Baptist, are believed to have been in possession of these striking ancient teachings, considering the construction and placement of doorways leading to other worlds.
	Yeah, and I know we're going to get quite a photograph we've got up on the web right now of one of those doorways, I suspect.
	You imagine it is, right?
	What I'm presenting is the device that's called the Pillar of Osiris, a tula tree.
	There's numerous names for it, and I believe that this is the device that they were using to open these gateways.
	Who was Jesus William?
	Was he the son of God, as we know it, Big G?
	Yes, definitely.
	Without question.
	That question is debated, but from my mythological research as well as what the scriptures say, yeah, I believe that he was the Son of God.
	The Creator of all that we know.
	Correct.
	Why would the Son of God place a device here?
	These traditions, the Son of God, this is where I'm going to throw a little bit of a controversy into this.
	Actually, to hide, to be specific, to hide a device.
	Right?
	Right.
	This device that I'm describing and have, we'll soon see on the webpage there, was passed around the ancient world.
	It existed before the time of Jesus, and in fact it appears, another of its alternate names is of life.
	Now wait a minute, this device existed before Jesus?
	Then where did it come from?
	More than likely, if you're a fan of Zachariah Sitchin's works, Zachariah traces the origins of this device to the planet Nibiru.
	It was brought to Earth after the cataclysm of Tiamat, and it was used to channel souls to the Earth plane.
	In other words, it was used to open up a gateway first, and then used as a device to channel souls into the Earth plane.
	Now, by that you mean...
	When a baby is born and spanked and takes that first breath, and or at conception, depending on your political view, the soul is dispatched through this gateway?
	Originally it was, yes.
	And then they would use this device during special circumstances to channel very specific, in particular the Christ soul, to the earth plane.
	That's some device, but the implication of that...
	It's huge.
	Yeah, the implication is that aliens, or the Anunnaki, I believe, if we're talking about Sitchin, preceded the creator himself.
	Preceded the creator.
	Not necessarily.
	Probably worked as agents of the creator would be a better way to view it.
	But wait a minute now, you're saying that the device was here Before Jesus walked on Earth?
	Yes.
	That to me says that the others, if you will, were here before the Son of Christ, before the word was given that God was even up there.
	I mean, we have the tablets and the commandments and all the rest of that.
	So, the aliens were here before the Creator fellow.
	Right.
	Well, when you're talking about the creator failure, in this instance, we're talking about the agent of the creator.
	Okay.
	In the Sumerian tradition, his name was Enki.
	The Egyptians called him Osiris.
	And these, if you do the research on the early Christian stories in the Old Testament, the Book of Genesis, where that's derived from, it's derived from streams that originated in Sumeria, in Egypt, and in India.
	so we have to go back to that prehistory in order to pick up the story
	because that's where we find depictions and stories of this device
	and we see it being carted around the ancient world and being placed at
	certain locations at very specific times for the purpose of channeling through or bringing through
	this christ salt what makes you believe that he
	who was here two thousand years ago.
	We'll be returning this summer.
	Well, Nostradamus left his very specific quatrain in which he said in July of 1999, the king of terror will come out of the sky, resurrect the king of the Mongols.
	The reason that I believe that this is this figure is because when this device was brought first to America, one of its locations where it was housed was in Mexico.
	Which was then considered part of America.
	I mean, the whole North American continent was America.
	Sure.
	And in fact, when we signed NAFTA in 1994, we reunited America with Mexico, so we became one once again.
	This pillar was taken to a place called Tula in Mexico.
	Tula is a very powerful word for us.
	It's going to enable us to open up many of these myths.
	And indeed, what we find in the Mayan tradition is the belief that their ancestors came Alright, well I'm going to be very pedestrian here and keep dragging you back down to explain this to me.
	The King of Terror is coming.
	golia previous to coming to mexico not long i'm going to be very pedestrian
	here and keep dragging you back down uh...
	to explain this to me but i think the king of terror is coming
	it seems to me you came two thousand years ago was an agent of the son of god
	Right.
	If he is coming back, how is he now to be called, or why is he now to be called, the King of Terror?
	I mean, the King of Terror does not exactly sound like your favorite neighbor.
	That's a great question.
	The reason is, well, I mean, first of all, the very surface answer is that when you think back to the life of Jesus and John, Yes.
	In their lifetime, they were considered terrorists.
	John was decapitated because of the terror that he wrought on his community.
	That's true.
	And, of course, Jesus was crucified for being an enemy of the Roman state.
	But that's really just a surface reason why.
	One of the other reasons has to do that the mission of this peacemaker or king of terror centers around the Sphinx, which in the Arab tradition was called the father of terror.
	The Sphinx?
	Yes.
	That's just one link in this, but the real reason why he's called the King of Terror, the story really picks up around 700 A.D.
	We have something called the Frank's Casket, which was discovered in Germany, and it shows the adoration of the Magi.
	And this is, of course, the three wise men surrounding the Christ Child.
	There's a runic inscription around the edge of the box that says, the fish beat up the sea, The King of Terror, Jesus, became sad when he swam upon the Shingle.
	And the Shingle is thought to be the Earth.
	In 770 A.D., in the first recorded Holy Grail legend, Jesus appeared to a young Frenchman and dictated a book to him which he called, Here Commences the First Telling of the Holy Grail.
	The first chapter of that book was, Here Commences Terror.
	So from that moment forward, at least in southern France where Nostradamus lived, Jesus, Terror, The Holy Grail and also enlightenment were linked, because as soon as the young Frenchman looked into that book, The Grail, he was instantly terrified by what he saw.
	Then he achieved enlightenment.
	And as many of us, if we think back on our own spiritual paths... What is the terrifying thing that he saw?
	That puzzled me for a long, long time.
	It's always described as a bright, white light.
	That's always described to me as a warm, embracing, hello there, we're your relatives, you're on the way to heaven, come on in.
	That's the way it's described to me.
	The bright white light?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's why the bright white light is actually the moon.
	The reason that it's the moon is because the Hebrew word for moon is ima.
	It means mother, and it means moon.
	But a phonetically equivalent word is ima, which means terror.
	Christos, of course, which is Jesus Christ, or Christos, means anointed, but its original meaning was healing moon man.
	So, the bright white light that was shown, the very terrifying light, is a terrifying story about the moon.
	Now, what's so terrifying about the moon?
	Yeah.
	That's the backdrop of our story.
	What is so terrifying about the moon?
	Well again, this goes back to a portion of Sitchin's reinterpretation of the Sumerian
	myth that described the cataclysm of that planet Tiamat, a former planet in our solar
	system which was called the Great Goddess, the Mother of Life, and also the Great Dragon.
	She was split in half in a celestial confrontation with another planet or this planet's satellites,
	the planet being Nibiru.
	When she was split in half, as we all know, or most of us know by now, half of that planet
	became the asteroid belt circling Mars and Jupiter.
	Right.
	The other half became Earth.
	Well, before her destruction, Tiamat had released 11 satellites, 10 very large satellites, one smaller one, our moon.
	That small one was the most important satellite of the whole bunch, because the Sumerians had said that that's the place where our genetic material came from.
	We were made from the blood of Kingu.
	And it was upon Kingu that were kept the holy records, the tablets of destiny of this former planet.
	So the moon emerges, if you use your imagination, as sort of a death star, a satellite, a Piamat.
	David Hatcher Childress and others have gone into some detail describing how these, these, what can be only described as arcs, were created.
	Boy, uh, listen.
	William, hold on.
	When we come back, I'm going to try to reduce this to language that we can all understand.
	William is saying a lot, and I'm sure for those students of Zachariah Sitchin and others, you understand exactly what he's saying, but a lot of this is flying by me at about a million miles an hour.
	I'm going to try to return to He came a couple thousand years ago and he's coming back in July.
	That part I get.
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	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM, from January 5th, 1999.
	My guest is William Henry, and we're going to try and break this down into a simpler way to explain it all.
	I'm certainly familiar with Zachariah Sitchin's Anunnaki 12-planet theory, but I'm not exactly sure about this Gateway of Souls.
	The King of Terror.
	The King of Terror?
	We refer here to Jesus, and a device put here before Jesus walked the Earth.
	And so I'm gonna try to get all that straight here in a moment.
	If possible.
	So I suggest you stay exactly where you are.
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	Back to William Henry.
	Now, let's try this, I guess, from the top, William.
	The King of Terror Is none other than Jesus Christ, yes?
	Possibly, yes.
	Possibly?
	Yeah, I mean, I would say about 90% sure, yes.
	Alright, you've got a picture up on my website right now.
	Okay.
	The picture, let me go down to your name.
	Here we go, William Henry, and the picture that you want us to see is WilliamHenry.net.
	And when you go to that website, it's about the 1, 2, 3, 4th one down, you get a photograph.
	And you get a photograph of what appears to be an archway in France, is it?
	Okay, yeah, that's me standing at the door to the Church of Mary Magdalene in Rennes-le-Chateau.
	And then there should be another picture attached to that of a pillar.
	If you click on the door.
	Oh, no kidding.
	Yes, you're right.
	Click on the door.
	It needs to say click on the door.
	That's what I thought too.
	And when I did, it says file not found.
	Uh oh.
	So I clicked on the door and indeed it was supposed to link to something, but it didn't.
	Okay.
	So there you are.
	I do see, though, the archway, and that's you standing there.
	Right.
	Okay, so I'll get my web person to try and remedy that.
	Okay.
	Anyway, then we would see a pillar, and where is that pillar?
	Inside?
	The pillar is not inside that church, no.
	Where is it?
	The pillar is, I'll describe what it looks like.
	It's approximately 45 foot tall.
	It's made of solid gold.
	Solid gold.
	It appears to have the base of a sort of an Ark of the Covenant.
	We all saw that movie, Indiana Jones.
	Oh, yes.
	Right.
	So we're a little familiar with what the Ark looks like.
	It's possible that there was a pillar that was attached to the top of that Ark of the Covenant, which looks very much like some sort of an antenna.
	This device is massive.
	It is huge.
	And it's called the Pillar or the Tower.
	It's designed, in the myths and stories that I've collected surrounding it, to open a gateway into other dimensions.
	This pillar was originally brought and housed at Abydos, Egypt.
	That's where I first found the depiction of it.
	Where did you get the photograph of it?
	I got it out of Richard Wilkinson's book, Reading Egyptian Art.
	There are numerous depictions in that book, as well as... And where does it say that pillar is located?
	It's located at the Osirian at Abydos.
	I'm sorry, Abydos?
	Yes, Abydos, Egypt.
	Egypt, okay.
	And it's solid gold?
	Made of solid gold, yes.
	It's like a golden needle.
	Good heavens!
	That would be... I wonder how much gold that would be.
	That would be a whole lot of gold.
	Yeah, I mean, when you think about the Temple of Solomon, where this was housed in Jerusalem, There was something on the order of 138 tons of gold used in the construction of that temple alone.
	138 tons?
	Yeah, and of course the walls of the Holy of Holies was lined with gold, so they made profuse use of gold.
	And in fact, the gold is very important because as I tracked this device in various locations around the planet, there are known to be enormous repositories of gold at many of the locations where this thing was housed.
	That's enormous, all right.
	And what do you say that the pillar is?
	The pillar is an antenna?
	It looks so much like an antenna that one would get the impression that that's what it's used for, and that is as far as I can tell.
	Well, I'll give you this much, William.
	Gold is one hell of a conductor.
	It's one of the first things you learn in electronics.
	One of the best conductors in the world that we know of is gold.
	You're aware?
	Did you know that?
	Yeah, I knew that.
	And I had to figure that that would make some sense in terms of the operation of this device.
	The other important thing about it is that if it does emit a frequency, that would make a tremendous amount of sense because what they're attempting to do is to enact a mythological story of slaying the dragon.
	We've all seen this in like the King Arthur stories and different places where this is reenacted.
	And it's an important element in that story because, for example, in the story of David and Goliath, remember that from Sunday School?
	David had an encounter with a giant named Goliath, who turns out to be one of the fallen angels.
	Goliath is of the class of angels called Seraphim, which means serpent healers.
	And the way that David slayed that dragon, or that giant, was by using a stone And embedding it in the forehead of the giant.
	Right.
	Which killed him.
	And then he chopped his head off with his sword.
	He took the giant's sword and chopped his head off.
	Well, what if that giant was killed not with a stone, but rather with a tone?
	Okay?
	A tone?
	A tone.
	Or a frequency?
	A frequency.
	Now this is really important because another person that had a mythological encounter with the giant or the dragon was a strongman named Hercules.
	We've all seen many stories of him.
	In fact, there's a new series out called Hercules on television these days.
	Right, right.
	Hercules battled a giant called An, and the way that he ingeniously was able to conquer this giant, this dragon, was by lifting him up off the ground so that the giant lost his strength, so that the dragon lost its strength, and then he was able to strangle it.
	Now, let's put that together with David's story about the tone in the stone.
	Let's say we have a tone that is able to lift up this giant or this dragon.
	What if, for example, in our modern age, that this device was to return in terms of a frequency-emitting device?
	Okay?
	Yes.
	What might that device be?
	Well, let's go back to the story of David again, because not only did he kill a giant or a dragon with a tone, But he also played the lyre, which was a musical instrument which he could use to tame man and beast.
	Another way of looking at the lyre is that it's a seven-stringed harp.
	Have you?
	So we are right now in the end times, as people believe.
	All right.
	You are familiar, no doubt, with the Harp Project in Alaska.
	Yes, I am.
	You are aware that it's detractors Suggest that the transmissions from HAARP will affect biological beings as in people as in us.
	You're aware of that?
	Yes.
	I take it that you believe that this is tied in?
	I do believe it's tied in, yes.
	I believe that... I was just a guess, but I thought you might believe that.
	I believe that the HAARP is the modern recreation of an ancient archetype possibly involving a device or a technology of It's similar to the way that this would operate.
	Well, HAARP has its own antennas, that's for sure.
	We've got pictures of their antenna farm up on the website someplace.
	It's quite an antenna farm.
	It's not gold, but there's parts of it that are, I'm sure.
	Right, and here's how this relates, because if we're operating along the premise, as many people are, that we're fulfilling some of those prophecies in the Book of Revelation, one of the primary jobs of this figure, the King of Terror, is to slay the dragon.
	And it appears that that dragon appears in many forms.
	I mean, it can appear as an individual or as a group of people and so forth.
	But it may have something to do instead with not only our ionosphere, but the ancients believed that there was literally a sphere of souls that encapsulate the planet as well.
	And that this device not only could channel souls into the earth plane, but it could also lift up Yeah, but you're saying that to get souls to Earth, to be inculcated in the newborn as we get them, that an actual device is required.
	Originally.
	The scenario that I'm putting forth... I know, but you're suggesting that the souls were dispatched by, not the Creator, but the Anunnaki.
	Then where does the Creator fit into all of this, if at all?
	Well, that's what's sort of missing in many of the Sumerian texts right now.
	I feel that the answers are there.
	Well, let's be straight on with people, Henry, William.
	Does this really mean that what you believe, I mean, let's just lay it on the table here, is that the Anunnaki indeed were our creators, and as far as you can see, there is no reference To another creator.
	Scant reference to another creator.
	In the Sumerian stories, Enki, the Anunnaki bio-spiritual engineer, is presented as the bio-spiritual engineer who genetically engineered the human body as a resurrection machine, as a Technology is a biological technology.
	Well, now, according to Sitchin, the human body was engineered, DNA manipulated, to mine gold.
	To mine gold.
	Here we are.
	In a biological tradition, though, our gold and soul are interchangeable.
	I think Mr. Sitchin is entirely correct in his assessment, but we can take it one step further.
	And, indeed, I believe that we must.
	And, in fact, Linda Howe did in her glimpses of other realities.
	work with people that have encountered who made what being that may be
	representatives of the anarchy and their purpose in coming here
	is not to mind gold there's surely at the level of star trek where they can
	create gold by alchemical means the stories when looked at from the viewpoint that i'm
	trying to express here
	pretty clearly state that their their ambition here with to rescue the soul
	from the collapse soul spear
	of tia not now remember of him but i don't work we wait uh...
	he so you disagree with such in with regard to the dna manipulation of the reason for the dna manipulation
	You don't believe that part of the Sitchin theory, is that correct?
	No, I do not.
	And the reason is, it gets back to the story of the Temple of Solomon, where the terms gold and soul are interchangeable, but what Sitchin had said is that They came here to solve an atmospheric crisis in their home world, and gold was to be the answer.
	Okay?
	Now, there is one thing that maybe you can help me out with, and maybe you have your own answer to it.
	When I listened to Zachariah, and I listened to him talk about gold, there is one thing that really is true, William, and that's that we human beings have a very almost inexplicable Passion for gold.
	Gold is hard to describe.
	When you hold, for example, pure gold in your hand, you know you're feeling something very, very special.
	Not just because it has monetary value.
	There's more to it than that.
	Go back to the gold fever, the gold rush, and all the rest of that.
	There was more to it than just money.
	There was something about gold, and there still is.
	And anybody who doubts that, Hold some pure gold in your hand and see what you feel.
	You do feel that you're holding something.
	There's just something about the texture, the color, the weight.
	You almost can't explain it, but you do have an inexplicable affinity for gold that goes beyond the monetary worth of gold.
	How would you explain that?
	I'll explain it this way.
	We have to get back to the exploded planet hypothesis, the very reason that Enki came here, that planet Tiamat, the watery dragon, had been destroyed.
	I'm of the opinion that, and this is my rendering of Sitchin's work as well as the Sumerian stories, that that planet was inhabited.
	Primarily by a feminine-oriented civilization.
	A feminine-oriented civilization?
	If we can do this without mythology, if we can stick to what we think happened, and you're doing that now, that would be great.
	A feminine-oriented civilization.
	The picture that emerges is that she releases 11 satellites before her destruction, which I begin to sound something out of the order of the vehicles that were featured in Independence Day, these massive trans-galactic vehicles.
	Ships, yes.
	Ships.
	Arks.
	Let's call them arks.
	Arks, that's good.
	Because Tiamat emerges as an Atlantis in the stars story, the story of a civilization that sunk in the middle of the night, of which there were survivors.
	Some of those survivors, however, their souls were literally embedded in the planet, in the former planet, which became Earth.
	Their souls were attached to the earth.
	They didn't make it off the ship.
	Enki and the other Anunnaki came here in order to rescue those souls.
	Along the way, they mined gold.
	Their primary mission was to find a way to lift those souls out of the earth.
	The gold was required for, for example, the pillar.
	Right.
	and other things and that the atmosphere that he was attempting to
	to repair was not at that mister such as we breathe the soul
	here at this massive
	here of souls that surrounded the planet that needed to be uh... that those souls need to be
	returned to their homeland how can you reconcile all you're saying
	the bible the description we have a lot of god and his son and why he
	was here and why he died on the cross
	and all the rest of that How can you reconcile that with a stronger view, which you've drawn from the Sumerian text, which would suggest that the initiator, the creator of our souls was not God at all, but instead was aliens.
	Well, the way I reconcile it, I believe 100% that the blood of Christ is the way to exit this world, the way to return to our former homeland, and I believe that the Christ story tells us that that is indeed so, and I believe that the story is presented in the Bible of why he came and so forth, and what I've been able to do is Reconcile that story with other previous myths to sort of expand it.
	The payoff for me, the reason that I keep going into this direction and going with it, is that through my search I've been able to reconcile the ancient myths with Western medical science.
	I have actually found a substance that Western medical scientists are using to cure cancer, AIDS, and leukemia that effectively gives you a more purified blood.
	And that appears to be one of the key elements.
	What is it?
	I'd rather not say at the moment.
	Simply because I'm still developing the research on it.
	And if it's okay with you, I'd rather not say.
	It's on the periodic table of elements.
	It's known.
	And when I stumbled upon it, I was quite surprised because, again, I'm coming at this from the mythological point of view.
	How did you stumble on it?
	I was reading a cipher from a That's really exciting!
	from southern france where many believe that the the uh...
	that uh...
	secretive jesus were taken after the crucifixion it was through my decoding of that parchment that i was
	able to find that by the way i'm going to london at the end of the month uh...
	talk with several other holy grail researchers about my findings to sort of
	validated uh... because it's really quite phenomenal what with uh...
	mythological research that
	that's really exciting quick unbelievable
	alright uh... stay right where you are We'll be back.
	A substance that's on the periodic table of elements.
	That would cure a cancer and AIDS and no doubt much more.
	A pillar made of gold that would be an antenna.
	An entranceway.
	Souls that are inculcated in humans by other than Big God G.
	That's a lot to tackle.
	We'll be right back.
	The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	More, somewhere in time, coming up.
	♫ answers to keep stressing that all these things
	all these things in our memories and they use them to come back to us. So, I'm going to play you a little bit of the
	are memories of and they use them to help us survive.
	♫ ♫
	song.
	I'm going to play you a little bit of the song.
	Why, why won't you stop? Take this place, on this trip, just for me.
	Why, take a free ride, take a rest, have a seat, it's my dream.
	I've been swimming for years, swam so hard just to win my fears. Had to end my life before I left, but by now, I know,
	I should have grown.
	I'm going to play you a little bit of the song.
	Oh Don't run, run, run, run, run like a bird.
	Don't keep running in the night.
	I'm gonna die tonight.
	Guess you'll wake up at five past.
	It's not even about a second past.
	You'll talk when the morning's due.
	Somewhere in Time, with Art Bell, continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
	And my guest is William Henry.
	We're really talking about our origins.
	We really are.
	We're talking about whether our origins were with the God we know of the Bible, with the big G, or aliens, as would seem to be described in Sumerian text.
	And mythology, which we could probably make fit into either paradigm.
	And that's kind of what we're doing.
	The mythology does seem to fit, or William is making it fit either paradigm.
	William disagrees with Zacharias Hitchin only in that he thinks we were not mining gold, and yet he's got a photograph, which we will have on the website shortly, I understand, of a pillar made of gold that he thinks was an antenna.
	And that through this, souls have been channeled to Earth, sent to Earth.
	In other words, when a baby is born, or conceived, depending on your political point of view, the soul is sent.
	But not necessarily by God.
	God is a God.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 5th, 1999.
	♪♪♪ Uh, William?
	Yes?
	I guess we're going to try this again.
	You heard what I just said at the top of the hour.
	You know, sort of summarizing?
	Excellent, yes.
	Was that excellent?
	I think so.
	You know, I have this feeling that when people like yourself come on the air and talk about the Anunnaki and talk about our origins, you tend to kind of pussyfoot around what you're really saying.
	What you're really saying is, look folks, it wasn't God and the Bible as we know it.
	It was an alien race.
	I mean, that is what we're saying here.
	That is what we were saying.
	And the myths that you're talking about can be applicable to biblical occurrences or biblical descriptions and or aliens, either one.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But not aliens so much in the sense that they're separate from us.
	I mean, what emerges from these stories is that we're part of the same family.
	So there's it's not so much a separateness issue as it is what they came here on a rescue mission.
	And they were here to save souls.
	They were here to rescue people.
	They were here to deliver sacred teachings that will enable each of us to increase our spiritual vision, our spiritual vibration, our spiritual abilities, if you will.
	Okay, William, should we think of these who will return, should we think of them as gods with small g's?
	Or simply, would a more contemporary explanation be, What they are is ETs with knowledge and abilities so far beyond our own that they are as gods to us.
	Right.
	The Celtic people had a wonderful description of them.
	They called them, with a small g, gods, but not gods.
	Yeah.
	So in other words, I can imagine a technological civilization, very simply, thousands or millions of years ahead of us.
	As having evolved so far that to us they would absolutely be gods, period.
	Right.
	Perhaps the person that would best understand the myths and the stories that I'm describing tonight is Dr. Michio Kaku.
	He casually mentioned the other night that if we could harness these energies, we could drill holes in space.
	That's right.
	I've got 450 pages of myths and legends of the beings that drilled holes in space in the ancient worlds, and this was the device that they used to do it with.
	Dr. Kaku, for those who don't know, describes a series of civilizations, levels.
	We're at zero.
	We use burnt coal and oil and stuff of the planet, the raw stuff.
	Use the resources here that are available to us that we can drive over or get a bulldozer and take and use.
	And then, of course, Type 1, which will harness a sun.
	Type 2, which will harness multiple suns and knock holes in space and do all these things.
	We can all imagine they're out there.
	And what William is saying is that one of these, Type 1 or Type 2... By the way, would you ascribe a type to them based on the Kaku descriptions, William?
	Yeah, probably somewhere around the Type 2.
	Type 2, huh?
	They were here a couple of thousand, well actually previous to a couple thousand years ago and they left, they left a machine.
	They left a device, it's called the Pillar of Osiris, the Tree of Peace, the Tree of Life, various names for it.
	They left multiple copies of it as well.
	It had been carted around the ancient world, the Mideast, Iran, Iraq.
	It did a tour of duty in France, first in southern France, then in Chartres Cathedral in northern France, about 60 miles from Paris.
	Right.
	It came to Mexico for a time and was stored at a place called Tula, where the white prophet lived.
	Then it appears to, at least either one copy or another copy went back across the Atlantic.
	Okay, now hold on, guess what?
	Keith Rowland, my webmaster, just got a drawing of the device.
	We've got it up on the website now.
	But it's a drawing, it's not a photograph.
	Right.
	And this is a drawing of what this composite image of several different takes on what this device looked like.
	Are you looking at it now?
	Okay, you can sort of see the perspective of how large this device is by the standing men that are on top of a platform there.
	The men are about, let's say, five or six feet tall.
	This device is clearly four or five times as tall as they are.
	Uh-huh, I see that.
	Made of solid gold.
	The device, its dimension shifting ability is noted.
	There's what's called the Uraeus Serpent up at the top of the device and that in the Egyptian tradition always signified some sort of a dimension shift.
	Okay, but this is a drawing.
	Now, where is this device now?
	It was in Abydos.
	I believe that the device now is probably in America.
	In America?
	In 1934.
	President Franklin Delano Roosevelt sent a group of agents to Mongolia in search of this device.
	He did?
	How do you know that?
	This was in the biography of his Secretary of Agriculture, Henry A. Wallace.
	That's the subject of my book, One Foot in Atlantis.
	Henry Wallace believed that Jesus was reincarnated and living in Mongolia in 1934.
	He convinced FDR that this was so.
	And they sent agents to Mongolia in search of Jesus.
	I've got what I call a smoking gun letter in my book that's from Henry A. Wallace to the person in charge of that mission, stating that they await the casket, the sacred, most precious casket.
	This device was not only called the pillar of Osiris, it was called the casket of Osiris.
	Osiris being the name of an Egyptian god-being.
	The only real substantial proof I have heard That relates that they were successful in finding this device is that in 1935 FDR ordered the Great Seal stamped on the back of the one dollar bill.
	That Great Seal is the logo of the Egyptian god being Osiris.
	It is, yes.
	It depicts the return of the Christ or Messiah to the top of the pyramid, the capstone on the pyramid.
	That device was probably recovered in America.
	By the way, are you aware that In Egypt, coming up on 2000, as 2000 comes upon us, they're going to replace the gold capstone on the Great Pyramid.
	Did you know that?
	I did know that, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
	I'm not sure what purpose that's going to serve, because... You know what else is happening that you may or may not know about?
	I am friends with the Director of Antiquities in Egypt, Dr. Zahi Awass.
	I know you know who he is.
	Dr. Hawass has said he is getting ready to close the Great Pyramid forever.
	Had you heard that?
	I'd heard that too.
	So, I'm beginning to put something together here.
	The Gold Capstone goes back on the Pyramid.
	The Pyramid closes forever.
	And the Sphinx is intimately involved in all of this.
	There are many people who, of course, believe that the Great Pyramid itself was a communication device or a channel for souls, if you will.
	Just as you were describing this object that we see on my website.
	Right.
	All connected?
	All connected.
	Yeah, I knew it.
	In fact, this is going to step on a couple of toes, but I'm going to go ahead and say it anyway.
	The word cross did not appear in the original Bible text.
	The word was rosto, which means pillar.
	Staro is another Greek word.
	It's the mirror image of rosto.
	Staro means sphinx.
	You're right.
	That's been stepping on a lot of toes.
	The Rosicrucians are the ones that started this message, so I'm just kind of repeating this just for what it's worth.
	I realize the controversy in some of these statements, but I think it's important that this kind of information be put out because it's been suppressed for so long.
	Well, I'm definitely willing to let it go out.
	I just don't want to pussyfoot around and end up not having anybody understand what we're saying.
	And what we're saying is very profound indeed.
	Somebody just wrote this.
	Now I am concerned.
	William spoke the word of the word.
	Ima.
	Is it Ima?
	Ima, I believe, as meaning terror.
	When I was given my mantra in the TM Society, I was sworn to secrecy.
	The mantra is Ima.
	Could you ask him about the word, please?
	Thank you.
	Yeah, the only elaboration that I have on that is that's what the word means, and it's important In these mythological languages and texts and so forth, the vowels are interchangeable.
	And that's how we're able to expand the meanings from Ema being terror to also meaning Ima, moon, and virgin.
	So that's my answer there.
	What precisely do you believe will occur when the king of terror returns?
	What's going to happen?
	Well, I think this is based upon Egyptian mythology.
	They would enact, and this is something I study very closely because the pillar was involved.
	But I mean, what's going to happen in modern America?
	What's going to happen in the world when the King of Terror returns?
	Cutting to the chase here.
	I think that's a good question.
	Thank you.
	That's a very good question because It's probably, if the Founding Fathers are right, if people like Sir Francis Bacon are correct, and if FDR's beliefs are correct, the Second Coming will happen in America.
	America is the land of destiny.
	It's the Holy Land that this event will take place in.
	The King of Terror may resurrect the King of Mongolia at the Great Pyramid, but the focal point of this activity The construction of what they describe as the New Jerusalem, the New City of Peace, is to be in America.
	What a surprise that's going to be for Israel, huh?
	What a big surprise, and I'm sorry to say it, but when you track the history of Israel, of Jerusalem, Jerusalem is named after original cities in India, in Mongolia, and other places.
	Jerusalem means simply City of Peace, and it's been built and rebuilt over the centuries.
	The site of Solomon's Temple, the Temple Mount, which is the local point.
	But again, we digress a little, William.
	What exactly is going to happen when the King of Terror returns?
	They're going to embark on the creation of a new city of peace, which appears to be sort of a temple school, where people will be able to come to absorb the new teachings that will align us with the central point in heaven which
	is where the ancients believed our souls came from
	so to put it simply we're going to see the uh... uh...
	the construction of a it's described in the book of revelations of fifteen
	hundred miles square city where people will come from all over the world
	uh... to even perhaps even have a meet and greet with this figure and this is
	where that this thousand years of peace is going to originate the arrival of the king of terror is the beginning of the
	thousand years of Yes.
	How, you know, we live... Let's talk about this for a second.
	We live in a day and age now where there are all kinds of claimed messiahs and figures and cults and On and on and on, it's a really cynical time we live in, and anybody, any person, any being that would claim to be the King of Terror returning, how can you imagine that he would be regarded seriously in modern America today?
	How?
	How?
	Yeah, I mean, it's just unbelievable.
	I mean, it is, talk about an against all odds kind of mission.
	And we'll just have to see.
	I mean, this is where, you know, the possibility exists of using mass communication and so forth.
	But especially look at what just happened with Clinton.
	I mean, imagine what would happen if you have this figure, the kind of media attention, media frenzy that would be hoisted upon this figure and so forth.
	It would be... Oh, but how would we know that it was the real McCoy?
	Well, that's something that each of us are going to have to decide.
	If we look at the book of Revelation, it's divided into 22 chapters, and that series of 22s appears in numerous times.
	I'm going to digress just for a moment, I'll get right back to it.
	The 22 appears, there's 22 human chromosomes, there's 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet, 22 cards, major cards in the tarot deck, which means wheel.
	That journey begins with the card zero, the fool, ends at the sphinx, card number 22.
	When you cut the tarot deck in half, which is what you're supposed to do, you end up with two 11s.
	Okay?
	You talked about the 11-11 doorway.
	Yep.
	Now, let's apply the 11 to the Hebrew alphabet.
	The 11th letter of the Hebrew alphabet is K. So now we have two Ks.
	I believe that the story, the arrival of the King of Terror, is the fork in the road.
	It's the Y of the 2K of the Book of Revelation.
	Y2K.
	Some of us will go left.
	Some of us will go right.
	And I must go straight up at the moment.
	Y2K.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
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	I'm going to be a bit of a pain in the ass, but I'm going to make it work.
	I'm going to make it work.
	Ooh, and it's all right, and it's moving on.
	We're going to get right back to where we started from.
	Love is good, love can be strong.
	We're going to get right back to where we started from.
	Ooh, and you remember that day, surely you did, when you first came my way.
	I said no one can take your place.
	And if you get hurt by the little things I say, I can put that smile back on your face.
	Ooh, and it's all right, and it's coming on.
	We're going to get right back to where we started from.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM.
	From the 5th of January, 1999.
	My guest is William Henry.
	And we're talking really about our origins, I guess.
	And probably causing a lot of trouble.
	We'll get back to it.
	We, uh, just before the half hour mark, bumped square into Y2K.
	to the moon.
	tonight featuring coast-to-coast AM from January 5th 1999 back we go now to William Henry
	%uh William, there are many who have referred to America as being New Jerusalem.
	Am I right?
	Yes.
	And so in New Jerusalem will come the King of Terror, and the King of Terror will likely return in July.
	1999, correct.
	Yeah.
	If I'm in Chicago, And I'm a commodities broker.
	Just giving you an example, okay?
	In July, will I still go to work and, after the King of Terror comes back, will I still go to work and trade my commodities every day?
	If I'm in New York on Wall Street, will I still go and make my trades on the stock market?
	If I'm in Nevada doing a talk show, will I still be doing a talk show?
	I think life will go on, yeah.
	I mean, even if you look back at the time of Jesus, life went on.
	Life will continue to go on.
	I think that getting back to Y2K, that it's going to help to slow down our civilization.
	I think that that's one of the uses of this crisis, is to awaken us that we're off our path.
	But in your literature here, you call the role Y2K plays a scam.
	Yeah, I call it a scam because I believe it's a... setup would probably be the better word.
	Setup.
	I think that Y2K is an organized organized crisis that people have had awareness of for a while.
	They know that... Well, I've had awareness of it for a long while, but quite reasonably long.
	Not as long as Gary North, but longer than the American media.
	And when the calendar clicked in January 1st, 1999 became reality.
	It's like somebody clicked a switch, uh, William.
	Can you believe it?
	And everywhere, suddenly the general public, the great unwashed, now have become aware of this terror called Y2K, and it just hit the mainstream media like somebody threw a switch.
	I've never seen anything, well, I have seen some things like it in the past, as a matter of fact.
	Can you explain that?
	Uh, it's just simple, uh, Preparation and programming kind of thing.
	Here in Nashville, my local news coverage covered it sort of like a tornado just went through town and got it up to such a fever pitch.
	You couldn't believe how people were responding to this news.
	I remember distinctly the first night that I heard it when Gary North was on your program and the terror that came with that.
	But at the same time, it brought enlightenment as well.
	That's the duality of this event and of these times.
	That old belief systems, old social, old political, old economic structures are getting ready to collapse.
	And a new world is beginning to emerge.
	And it's just on the fringes of our awareness now.
	Well, now wait a minute.
	That seems a long way from a scam.
	Well... In other words, you are describing an event consistent with what Gary North describes as possible in the worst case scenario.
	That's what you're describing.
	Yeah, again, scam is probably too strong a word.
	Let's call it second-class Armageddon maneuver.
	Second-class Armageddon maneuver.
	Yeah, it's just a way to goose the imagination and get people into a fear kind of place.
	If people are in fear, they're not looking necessarily to the higher spiritual solutions which may be emerging from this scenario.
	May I give you my take on Y2K?
	Several people have compared it to the story of the Titanic, the ship that was going too fast in the middle of the night that struck an iceberg and sunk.
	Titanic derives its name from the Titans.
	The Titans were led by a figure named Atlas, for whom Atlantis was named.
	I think Y2K is our new Atlantean moment.
	When you read the Edgar Cayce material, other materials, You find out that Atlantis was a civilization that grew over-dependent on its technology that was based on crystals, similar to our computer technology today.
	They also botched their genetics, according to Sitchin and other researchers.
	We haven't quite botched our genetics yet, although we probably are on the verge of doing so.
	We're working on it.
	We're working on it.
	So we're right where the civilization of Atlantis was, presumably 10,000 years ago, by most estimates, Graham Hancock, Edgar Cayce, and so forth.
	This is our new Atlantean moment, and this is a time when we're either going to get the story right, or we're going to sink again.
	And right now we're sinking.
	I believe we've already hit the iceberg of Y2K, and we're parked just beyond it and sinking.
	Now, the solution that I propose comes from a group of 6th graders.
	A teacher was wise enough to take his 6th grade class to see the movie Titanic with the idea of solving the problem.
	And do you know how they solved it?
	No.
	Turn the ship around, tie it to the iceberg, until help can get there.
	Now, why the hell didn't they think of that?
	My understanding of what they actually did was to actually start the engines and begin moving, which was the worst possible thing you could do, because that forced water into the hole that had been created, the long gash hole that had been created in the ship when it struck the iceberg.
	Interesting.
	And you're telling me a sixth grade class... Sixth graders came up with this.
	Turn the boat around, tie it to the iceberg, throw everything in the water that floats, and sit on that.
	And create a semi-circle between the ship and the iceberg.
	I believe we've got to use the too late solution for the people on Titanic to apply it to our current situation.
	Y2K is just the tip of our iceberg of our rotting spirituality, politics, and so forth.
	What if we use the technology to massively communicate the nature of the situation, which is what we're doing now, and we know that there is black technology that could assist us in this situation, Tesla technology that's been covered up, that's back in Area 51 or other government labs, allegedly.
	That's part of what we've got to do.
	Well, we certainly know that when Tesla died, they went in and collected every scrap of information and carted it away to some government place somewhere.
	Y2K is all about politics, economics, but ultimately it's about spirituality.
	Let's imagine that you're a Christ or anti-Christ figure.
	You want to put a monkey wrench in the wheel of human civilization.
	You emerge in 1956.
	You make one decision.
	You propose one idea.
	Get rid of the one and the nine on the numbers.
	What if someone says, well, that could cause a problem later?
	It's like, well, they'll solve it.
	I think it comes down to these moments.
	But it was not proposed.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Maybe it was.
	In other words, if you listen to Gary North and others, the genesis of the Y2K thing was the original IBM punch cards.
	If you've ever seen one, I've held them in my hands.
	I remember them.
	They had very little... All digital information is made up of yeses and nos, and they simply punched holes for a yes or a no, and punched no hole for a yes or a no, and you came up with a series of yeses or nos.
	But on a card, there are very few of them.
	Today, we have Pentium processors that have billions of yeses and nos every second, and that's the progress we've made.
	But way back then, They didn't have enough yeses and nos, and so they only used two digits to indicate the year.
	Right.
	That would seem the logical thing to do when you only have that much of a database, that much available memory, if you will.
	Right.
	So, you're suggesting somebody came and intentionally suggested that to set up what's about to happen.
	Exactly.
	Because in the world of prophecy, these beings operate on massive timescales.
	Of course, 30 years, 40 years to them is nothing.
	In fact, FDR was operating off the prophecies of Nostradamus at the request of Winston Churchill.
	He knew that if he recovered something in Mongolia pertaining to Jesus, it would not be used until July 1999.
	Where are the records of FDR's doing this?
	One of the excellent sources for that is John White's biography of Henry A. Wallace, simply called Henry A. Wallace's Search for the New World Order.
	American Heritage did an expose on this in 1992.
	You can go to your library and look that up.
	These are all documented in my book, One Foot in Atlantis, The Secret Occult History of World War II.
	It's an amazing story and I had no idea that this device that I've been describing was actually
	what they were going after until after I finished the book. I had been researching it
	independently without really realizing that that's what it was.
	Okay, so I've not done this research, but are you telling me that it's concrete that
	FDR, we can find out if we researched properly, absolutely was in search of this device and
	dispatch people to go get it.
	Yes, you can.
	There's the letter that is in my book.
	It's really incredible.
	FDR was of course a Freemason and he and Henry A. Wallace sort of envisioned themselves as Grail Knights.
	And, in particular, Henry Wallace.
	I mean, he was FDR's third-term vice president, later ran for president in 1948.
	And this is when a lot of this material started to come out, because his political enemies used it against him in the political campaign, saying, look, this guy, you know, he's got this Russian guru, he's looking for Jesus in Mongolia, this guy's a nutcase.
	When, in fact, what he was trying to pull off was the plan of the founding fathers Who are operating off of a book written by Sir Francis Bacon called The New Atlantis, in which Bacon envisioned the rise of a technologically advanced civilization in America.
	That book was on the nightstands of the Founding Fathers, probably not literally, but figuratively, right next to the Bible.
	And in fact, it was Francis Bacon, the author of that book, that translated the King James Version of the Bible, the one that most of us read in Sunday School these days.
	So that gives you an idea of the political motivation behind Bacon and his intention when he translated the King James Version of the Bible.
	They knew that there was a pre-flood, advanced pre-flood civilization, and that that civilization would arise in America at this time.
	Remarkable.
	All right.
	Here we are.
	Right.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with William Henry.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes, sir.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Virginia Beach, home of Edgar Cayce.
	It sure is.
	Yes, A.R.E.
	I was wondering, is the Tree of Life, is that the same one that's found in the Kabbalah?
	In the Kabbalah?
	Yeah.
	The Tree of Life, you mentioned that the pillar is also called the Tree of Life.
	Right, the Tree of Life manifests on three levels.
	It's a technological device, it's a spiritual teaching, which is encoded in the Kabbalah, the Hebrew mystic book, and it's also modeled in our spinal cord system.
	Right.
	We have a duplicate of this exterior technology within each of us.
	Oh, I see.
	And it's also a model of creation.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It would be, wouldn't it?
	In other words, the DNA strand?
	Yes.
	In fact, the DNA strand is the symbol for something called the caduceus.
	We see it on the news.
	It's the symbol for the American Medical Association.
	You know, it scares me that I'm understanding all of this.
	All right, Caller, thank you very much.
	Let's keep moving.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with William Henry.
	Hello.
	I thought you forgot about me, Art.
	No, I didn't forget you.
	I almost forgot what I called about.
	Uh-oh.
	I had talked to Zachariah Fitch and Mr. Henry.
	What you're looking for is called the Jed Pillars.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, they have four capacitive plates on the top, and they're mounted on a waveguide, which has a coupling horn on the bottom.
	Well, that sure as hell sounds right to me.
	Ma'am, where did you get all this?
	Let me stop.
	A lot of people in the audience won't know, but you have just described a true electronic device, a microwave reception device.
	That's what you have just described.
	A capacitance hat, the antenna itself, and then waveguide, which is used in modern day... Radar.
	Well, radar, it's used, waveguide is used in all kinds of applications.
	I built and tested waveguide for IT&T early in my life back in Atlee, New Jersey, and so that's what you're saying this whole thing was, was exactly what William Henry says it is, an electronic receiving device.
	Well, it's not only a receiving device, it emits.
	And it does the same thing.
	It works on the same principle as the flying saucer.
	What it does is the capacitive plates, they use several of them in conjunction.
	They're what they use to lift the blocks for the pyramid.
	In other words, the same exact technology.
	Yeah.
	I'm beginning, this is all beginning to come together now.
	Okay, the plates create an electrostatic grid, the waveguide works the grid, makes that pinhole above it, and the horn couples the block to the device.
	But the little pinhole is what forces, see gravity, mass is lazy, it's inert, and it will go to the null point.
	And the pinhole makes the null point above it, so it all rushes up to the null point.
	And that's what lifts things.
	Who are you?
	I told you I'm the reincarnation of Khufu's daughter.
	And I believe the King of Terror that you're talking about.
	How do you know of all of this, please?
	I mean, you obviously know exactly what you're talking about, and so that's why I said, who are you?
	I'm Gina.
	I told you my sister has the aliens living with her.
	I've also been under the Sphinx, and there's a lake under there.
	A lake under the Sphinx?
	Well, there is in fact water under there.
	Water is probably the power source for this, as near as I can tell.
	In addition to the gold, the water appears in the locations where this has been.
	Installed in the lake is called the Lake of Fire, the Lake of Frequency Vibration.
	Well, look, I can tell you there's water there.
	There is a center in the walkway, the pyramids.
	There's a door you can open that leads straight down about a hundred and some odd feet.
	And when you get down there, there's water.
	There's water in the pit now?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, I was there.
	I'm telling you.
	They were going to build the pyramid just south of the sink.
	And they had the whole bottom structure laid out.
	And Jennifer A. came along and told them that there was water under there and they couldn't build it there.
	So they built it north of it, where it is now.
	Well, there is now water under there.
	That was a remarkable woman.
	Wow.
	You know, I'm not sure about a couple of other things she said there.
	What she described was an accurate description extending from what you said about the gold antenna.
	I'm not a technically oriented person.
	I understand.
	Well, I am a little bit.
	And what she described was accurate and fit right in with what you were saying, William.
	Remarkable.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Henry.
	Hello.
	Yes, hi.
	First of all, as far as Y2K, I don't believe we have to be scared as long as we're prepared.
	We need to get our money out of the banks and turn it into hard money, gold and silver, and put away some food.
	Your guest finally mentioned the connection between all of these things, Solomon's Temple, Ren's Chateau, which was talked about in the books, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, and the Messianic Legacy.
	The pillar he's talking about, I think, is probably really a four-sided obelisk.
	The connection between all these is Freemasonry.
	It's quite obvious to me.
	It's an important connection, certainly.
	are free location where they are the court you both talked
	the connection between all these is free masonry is quite obvious to me
	uh... it will yell it's an important connection certainly
	is a free masons have their their allegorical story of higher above that
	supposability of solomon's temple and uh... runs with shatto and and other churches in france
	if you connect the dots between them how you get a pentagram and opelous i
	mean a pentagram hexagram
	and uh...
	as far as you know that you've been a terror uh... king of jerry may first of the land is going to come
	back at the lion and that's because uh... just before he was uh... crucified
	He took a whip to the money changers in the temple, and that kind of PO'd the bankers of the Federal Reserve of that day, and today he's going to come back and he's going to be a terror, not to his people, the good Christians, but to those bankers and the Illuminati workers of iniquity and Freemasons of today.
	That's an excellent point.
	Yeah, he's a terror-inducing figure, not to the believers, but to those for whom he's going to expose for what they really are.
	Well, okay, let me translate this into something I can understand.
	When he gets here, in July of 99, will William Greenspan be going to work as usual?
	Yeah, he probably will be.
	Might not... Yeah, I would say he would be, certainly.
	Alan Greenspan, okay.
	Alan Greenspan, yeah, because life will go on for a lot of those folks.
	I know, but wouldn't he be the modern-day money-changer?
	Could be.
	All right, everybody, hold on.
	Hold on.
	We'll be right back.
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	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 5th, 1999.
	This is a tribute to the late and great John Lennon.
	I turned my collar to the cold and damp When my eyes were spammed by the flash of a gun
	I turned my collar to the cold and damp When my eyes were spammed by the flash of a gun
	I turned my collar to the cold and damp When my eyes were spammed by the flash of a neon light
	The stripping night, touched the sound of silence And in the naked light I saw
	Ten thousand people, maybe more People talking without speaking.
	People hearing without listening.
	People writing songs that voices never share.
	No wonder, the stupid sound of silence.
	Fruits that I do not know Silence like a cancer grows
	Hear my words that I might teach you Take my arms that I might lead you
	But my words like silent raindrops fell Echoing in the waves of silence
	And the people bowed and prayed To the unheard
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 5th, 1999.
	a word that it was for me. And the silence of silence. You are listening to Art Bell,
	Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 5th, 1999. When you
	think about these words, they seem to fit.
	All you've got to do is imagine tens of thousands and thousands of people worshipping at a pillar.
	Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues courtesy of Premier Networks.
	Back now to William Henry and are you there William?
	Yes, I am.
	All right.
	Let's first finish up with this call, and then I've got a fax for you that you're probably going to love or hate.
	Okay.
	Caller, you're back on the air.
	Yes.
	Yeah, hi.
	I also disagree with your guest about the meaning of the great C on the back of the dollar bill.
	That was designed by Freemasons, and it's not the eye of God on the top of it.
	It's the eye of their god, Lucifer.
	And you can prove it by, take a hexagram.
	Hold it, hold it, hold it.
	Slow up here.
	The God, Lucifer, their God, the masons of God is Lucifer, is what you just said, will you?
	Yes, a top freemason named Albert Pike admitted that in his book, Morals and Dogma.
	All right, let's let my guest respond to that.
	Stay relaxed.
	The great deal is it appears on the back of the one dollar bill was designed under the watchful eye of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams.
	To my knowledge, they were not Satan worshippers.
	That's where that came from.
	That was commissioned on July 4, 1776.
	They went through a process, a selection process, of several different symbols that might represent the American enterprise.
	It would be the logo of the American enterprise.
	And one of the proposals came from Thomas Jefferson.
	He wanted to see, or rather, excuse me, Benjamin Franklin, he wanted to see Moses leading the Israelites through the Red Sea.
	Because the Founding Fathers connected themselves with the Israelites.
	They had come to a foreign land, a promised land, where they had hoped they would be able to connect with their God, who was not Lucifer, but the God that most of us are aware of.
	All right, this guy's trying to say that the Masons worshipped Lucifer.
	Benjamin Franklin was a Mason and a Rosicrucian.
	Virtually every president has been a Mason and a Rosicrucian.
	They attempted to bring forth ancient teachings, marrying the religions of East and West, and marrying the old-time religion with the new-time religion.
	I can see a little bit how we might get the Lucifer interpretation in there, but I'm not sure that that's the correct one.
	And the word Mason is spelled out, M-A-S-O-N, is spelled out by the pyramid with the eye symbol.
	If you simply take a hexagram, which is used by the Freemasons, just like a pentagram is also used in witchcraft, etc.
	Take a hexagram and draw it over the pyramid with the eye, And you start out with an M, where the date in 1776
	in Roman numerals starts with MDC.
	The M goes up to the A in annual coerptus, and then it goes over to the S at the end of annual coerptus.
	Then it goes over down to the O in novus ordo seclorum, which means new world order, basically.
	Then it goes up and over on the other triangle of the hexagram to the N at the beginning
	of novus ordo seclorum, so you have M-A-S-O-N.
	Yeah, that's the thing.
	The sacred geometry was really inherent in all those symbols,
	and it was designed very much like the artworks of Leonardo da Vinci and others, who were mystics that
	were encoding these geometries within their paintings.
	It's very complex, very complicated, and certainly as open to interpretation as the prophecies of Nostradamus or others.
	Well, whether you're talking about the prophecy of Nostradamus or the mysticism, ancient mysticism, you can apply it to anything you want.
	Can't you, William?
	I think so.
	Current events, everything.
	That's what you would be charged with, applying, simply taking our mystical history and applying it to a theory that you have.
	And if you wish to challenge me and say it is not a theory, or even a belief structure as in religion, then what is it?
	Yeah, I'm presenting a theory based upon an interpretation of the ancient myths in The Kabbalistic language that was used by these prophets, and yeah, it's certainly open to interpretation.
	And remember, the Book of Revelation, the Bible, other of these texts, there's at least two or three levels of meaning embedded within those stories.
	Typically, we invoke the most surface interpretation of the story.
	Sometimes we get a little bit beneath the surface, and you know, there's many levels, probably as many as seven.
	Alright, here's a fax that sounds like something a lot of people out there in my audience would have written.
	You ready?
	Hey Art, I'll guarantee your guess this much.
	If something does come from the sky in July and calls itself the King of Terror, I'll do my damn level best to blow it to hell and back and send it right back where it came from.
	I'll bet if you take a poll I'm not alone.
	I share that sentiment.
	Leave us the hell alone.
	Why can't we develop as our own species, at our own time, at our own pace?
	Oh, you share the sentiment?
	I share that sentiment.
	I balance it with what the potential benefit might be here.
	I try to go as close down the middle.
	I'm a reporter of these myths.
	I'm not trying to present a total theory to say you must believe William Henry, the gospel of William Henry.
	That's not it at all.
	I'm trying to position myself as in the middle saying, this is the research that I've turned up.
	It can apply to numerous situations in both sides of the equation.
	And I do have those days.
	It's like, get these people out of our life.
	I mean, what have they really contributed to us?
	Have we seen any benefit of this ET, alleged ET interaction of these higher spiritual beings coming into our earth?
	What religion has done anything but spawn war and fracturing our civilization?
	There isn't a single There's no thought, form, or religion on the planet that brings the human race together.
	It just simply divides us.
	So why do we even bother with this crap at all?
	So they're nothing but divisive little slugs?
	Yeah, it's all designed to put humanity at odds with one another so that you draw a line in the sand that says, this is my God.
	Don't you dare come near and touch it.
	And your God is inferior to my God.
	You're an interesting person, Mr. Henry.
	Thank you.
	What's the Rockies?
	You're on the air with William Henry.
	Hi, how are you doing?
	I'm doing.
	My name is April.
	I'm listening to you on KFRE in Hollywood.
	Hello there, April.
	And welcome.
	Bear with me.
	I've got a little cold.
	I can hear it in your voice.
	Yeah.
	Mr. Henry, will you sort of redeem yourself from some of the comments I was going to make and the comments you just made in the past two minutes or so?
	Because I was going to ask, I mean, you've cross-referenced literally like every mythology that I could think of.
	Off the top of my head, we've made reference to the Tarot, to the Fibonacci sequence, everything.
	And I was going to essentially ask why it was that all of this went into supporting the return of the God of the Judeo-Christian power structure.
	It just bothers me.
	But now that I hear that, well, at least that isn't your main agenda, I'm still a little bit curious as to the Amount of time and energy that has gone into researching myths and tying myths together when myth is metaphor to man.
	It's not something that was ever meant to be taken literally and we've gotten into so much trouble as a society with religions dividing us by taking myth as fact.
	Yep.
	And letting it guide us as that thing, no matter what your belief behind it might be, that the terror or Christ or whoever is returning in June or July of 99 is just going to stir up the waters for people who are already uncertain and clinging to the fragile thinking boat that religion and philosophy provide for them, and giving them something else to be nervous about.
	When we are too busy spending time with things that don't exist, things that we cannot verify, things that are beyond our perception, UFOs, whatever you want to call them, spirits, gods, when we really need to be living in this world right now, and all societies come to an end, that is an inevitable fact of existing on this earth.
	Things come to an end.
	They have a terminus point.
	And to sit here and debate this structure and that structure, one against the other, and just throw up poor, adulterated people, many of whom I think are probably listening tonight, is really kind of sad.
	And I'll listen to your comments, because I can't talk for too much longer.
	Yeah, I can hear you're about to break down.
	Yeah, but thank you.
	I'd really like to hear what you have to say.
	All right.
	Thanks a lot.
	Coming right up.
	William?
	Well, I would say it's a necessary part of the process.
	I go back to Joseph Campbell, the great mythologist, that he attempted to put together, in effect, the human story.
	We're all involved in a cosmic drama, and we have to use myth as signposts of where we're at in that story.
	We all came from a creator, we'll all eventually return to the creator, and myth is what guides us in between that.
	It's just that it's so damn interpretive.
	Well, it is.
	It's incredibly subjective.
	The times you talk about, for me, it's a full-time job, 16 years, a couple of thousand books worth of research.
	It was only within the past couple of years that I was able to kind of feel myself getting up to the level where I understood what some of these stories were talking about.
	It was primarily through the lens of Zachariah Sitchin that opened it up.
	to the possibility that there was an original pre-flood advanced civilization
	that had this sort of technology.
	And this is what all myth is speaking of.
	All of the Garden of Eden stories, the creation myths refer to the story of Atlantis,
	of this original homeland, which by the way was on Earth but it was also in the stars as well.
	That's what we're beginning to learn.
	I know they do.
	Undeniably, first time caller line, your turn with William Henry.
	Hello.
	Hello, this is Don in Huntington Beach.
	Hi, Don.
	How you doing, Art?
	Okay.
	Pleasure to get on.
	I wanted to ask William, do you in fact believe in reincarnation?
	Yes, I do.
	Great.
	Are you familiar, William, with the works of like Burton Mack and Bruce Metzger?
	And those people?
	No, I am not.
	Because they really show the true redaction and all the deletion and the additions and all of that that was done to the New Testament.
	Because they have since found early New Testament script that when you pair it up to the latter, especially the King James, it's vastly different.
	And when you take words out of the Out of the Greek, such as, for instance, the King James rendering of hell, in the King James version of the Bible today, that word hell means root cellar.
	And they placed that word to Tartaros, Gehenna, and Hades, which are three distinctively different words, but they all took a broad paintbrush and put the word hell on there.
	That is just a great example of the tremendous amount of corruption from the pure, distinct word that was originally in the New Testament.
	And unfortunately, theologies became built that exist even unto today upon these erroneous translations of the original words.
	My question would be...
	Have you ever heard of C. Coop Shellhorn?
	Yes, I have.
	You're familiar with his work?
	Yes.
	Because he pulls a lot out of the Zach Stichens stuff, too.
	The thing that's amazing to me, and this is one thing I've never heard anybody really put a connection to, is there's something going on between the connection of what the Anunnaki did with upgrading Homo sapiens from Cro-Magnet Man Because of something that happened back there that we're getting a little glimmer of.
	You know, Genesis alludes to it, and of course, Genesis is just a short summary of the Enuma Elish.
	And what is your feeling on that?
	Do you think there's some connection there that the Anunnaki felt, because souls were bound to the earth for a period of time, that they felt that they had to upgrade Croag Magnetman to a more intelligent being of Homo Sapiens in order for them to escape the bondage of reincarnation to this planet, and is that not in fact what could possibly be going on right now?
	They're getting ready to upgrade us genetically again.
	I totally agree with that.
	I've written a follow-up book to my book, The Peacemaker and the Key of Life.
	It's called The Gardener and the Tree of Life.
	I hope to have it out soon.
	It describes that creation process.
	And again, yes, Enki and the other Anunnaki genetic scientists I found that what they were here to do is to create the human body as a resurrection machine, as a flower of souls, or flower of souls, if you will.
	This is the gardening metaphor that keeps coming up over and over.
	They were gardeners, they're harvesting souls, all this sort of thing.
	Imagine the human body as an actual flower or flower.
	You know, it goes back, I once interviewed, I have a good friend named John Lear, he doesn't do public interviews anymore, but he referred, he said that He had definitive information, this goes back a lot of years now, that the human body is nothing more than a vessel to contain the soul.
	It's an ark.
	It's a flower of the soul.
	We're just playing with words here, but the meaning is the same.
	It's just virtually a vessel.
	What happened after that cataclysm on Tiamat that created the earth, The Essenes, the priesthood out of which Jesus preached, had sacred texts that described the earth as a pit.
	And as Sitchin points out in his lecture, at least he did in Zurich when I was with him there last month, he said, have you ever thought about what the earth looks like when you take all the water out of the oceans?
	It looks like a giant pit.
	And that's what it was.
	It's the pit of that planet, a piece of this fractured goddess planet.
	And these people viewed planets as giving them goddess type metaphors or human body type metaphors.
	Sitchin describes how Enki created the human body and in my interpretation I show how Enki implanted those feminine souls of Tiamat into the human body.
	What he discovered was that they wouldn't resurrect.
	In other words, those souls couldn't use the resurrection machine properly.
	So Enki had to bring forward to the earth another group of souls.
	And these souls acted sort of, they fulfilled the role of sort of like a savior.
	They were masculine in nature.
	They were solar to the feminine lunar counterpart of the souls from Tiamat.
	The interaction between those two souls caused a ratchet effect where they would work their way up the spinal cord, the tree of life within, and unite in the pineal gland area of the human brain and then be able to escape into the higher dimensions Rescue complete.
	All right, William, if July comes and goes and nothing happens, what then?
	What are you going to believe then?
	I'd still believe the same thing because my life, my work does not totally hinge on that.
	Then I go back to developing this technology, working with this element that I described earlier.
	It wouldn't be boron, would it?
	No, it's not.
	Okay, it's not.
	I just wanted to rule that out.
	And it's not antimony, element number 51, which is what the fallen angels were accused of teaching humanity the healing arts through.
	William, where are your books available?
	You can get my books through my publisher at 888-690-1277.
	888-690-1277.
	Or, I've just been informed that they can go to williamhenry.net through my IP address at the moment, and that's 209.150.147.
	Okay, uh, hold on, we'll be right back.
	This is Premier Networks.
	That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
	It's a great show.
	Well, this may be pretty heavy stuff for some of you out there to try and follow, but obviously a lot of people are following it.
	And I received a lot of interesting faxes like this one.
	Art, once again, you've had a guest who is sorely ignorant and or deluded regarding the Masons.
	He'd really like to get some answers from a person who has a clue about the Freemasons.
	I offer myself, and he claims to be a 32nd degree Mason.
	Rather tempting, but he does not provide a phone number.
	We'll be right back.
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	tonight featuring coast to coast a m from january fifth nineteen ninety nine
	back now to my guest and uh... it is it is uh... for some people
	uh... we're very hard to follow Could you
	For the layman, summarize everything you said and what it means to us.
	It's a tall order, I know.
	I mean, a lot of it for a lot of people is really hard to follow.
	So, what you're saying here is... What I'm saying is that the creator beings that were responsible for the redesign of the human species are coming back.
	In July?
	Probably, possibly, yeah, July.
	And they will be constructing another holy city, another, a new holy land, a new city of peace.
	Peace, by their definition, by the way, has nothing to do with, it's not the absence of conflict between warring factions, like the skirmish in the Middle East between the families there.
	Peace, by their definition, is the unity of heaven and earth.
	What they're attempting to do in creating peace is to link the Earth with these other higher beings that it's talked of by Sitchin, by Dr. Keku, by so many others, that perhaps this is the time, finally, when Earth is going to get plugged in.
	And you believe that all of this will culminate in July of 99, or very likely in July of 99, and this Great Ascension, this Great Joining will begin?
	It'll begin then, yeah.
	a process that goes from now to probably sometime around 2012 at least and then beyond.
	The Mayans get into this picture where they have their say in terms of the time.
	In other words, one age ends and another begins at the end of the Mayan calendar.
	Right.
	And for what it's worth, Nostradamus said that, identified the month as Sept.
	Sept is the French word for seven.
	But it could also be September and I'm keeping my eye on 9-9-1999.
	So it could be anywhere between July and September.
	Right, because it seems the most auspicious time for opening the Hall of Records doesn't come until August 11, 1999.
	That's when the Grand Cross, an arrangement of the Lion, Bull, Man, and Eagle on the heavens forms above Earth, and then that matches up with the Sphinx below, the Lion, Bull, Man, and Eagle on Earth.
	And the 9-9-9-9 is kind of interesting because if you look through Egyptian hieroglyphics, whenever you see the places where these god beings lived, they're identified by flags, and those nines are flags.
	Very often you'll see those flags grouped in bunches of four or five, similar to the way you see it in the date 9-9-1999.
	Hasn't there been somebody like you, William, just before each millennium, or a variation of you?
	Probably.
	Saying about the same things?
	Saying pretty close to the same thing, yeah, because these things are so cyclical.
	That's why my book is called One Foot in Atlantis, The Secret Occult History of World War II and its Impact on New Age Politics.
	Each time this new age rolls around, the politics are the same.
	They line up.
	People in power go searching for these power tools, including this device.
	There's confrontation between the religions.
	The old-time religion does not want to die off.
	It happened in the time of Moses.
	It happened in the time of Jesus.
	It happened in the time of Abraham.
	It happens like clockwork.
	And this is why I believe we have to go back and examine these ancient new ages to see what happened.
	Sitchin is one that's done a splendid job of doing that, of presenting that cyclical nature of these events.
	And I believe that it's up to each of us to understand the drama.
	But Sitchin treads a little more carefully than you do.
	Sitchin holds closer to his religion than I do.
	That's right.
	That's why.
	Sitchin walks a very fine line.
	Extremely.
	I'm not presenting myself as a scholar, as is Mr. Sitchin.
	I'm presenting myself as a researcher, and I don't hold these beliefs near and dear to my heart, perhaps, as much as Sitchin does.
	I'm open to new information.
	I'm continually assimilating new data, working on this picture, and so forth.
	That's the difference between the two of us.
	I've got it.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with William Henry.
	Hello.
	My question had to do with scale.
	You know there are various levels of scale, starting with things like gluons and atoms and planetary masses and stars and then you go on to solar systems and galaxies and galaxy clusters.
	It seems that if a person could think for a minute that human beings, for instance, evolved or were created within one scale.
	One group of scale considerations.
	These beings that you mentioned, these God-like beings and that sort of thing, and then perhaps at the very top, the Creator, Yahweh, is it possible or have you factored into your thought the various types of scale?
	Sure.
	I mean, you start with the human being.
	We can see into the vastness of the heavens through the Hubble Space Telescope and see that there's over 450 billion galaxies identical to our own out there.
	Then we can peer into the electron microscope and even into the nano world now, which are measured in billionths of a centimeter of an inch.
	And there may be sentient beings all the way through that.
	Yeah, it's unbelievable when you factor that in.
	One at a time.
	When you think about that, if they had the level of technology that we have today, perhaps add another couple of hundred years on to our level of technology, we've got nanotechnology now.
	Is it even conceivable that these people created a new world, a new heaven on earth in the nano level?
	I mean, that's phenomenal to think about, but IBM has already created gears, they've created engines at that nanotechnology level.
	There may be no end to it.
	There's no end to it, and it's beyond the scope of my imagination.
	But what I'm thinking is perhaps these beings that are considered gods or extraterrestrials or advanced civilizations higher than us are just merely perhaps the highest level in our scale, but you go into galaxy clusters and then beyond, there may be beings way beyond that.
	I have a problem reaching that far into my imagination to grasp that.
	may be the divine matrix of everything tied together.
	It's a big cosmic egg.
	Have you factored any of that into your thought?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And you know, I have a problem reaching that far into my imagination to grasp that.
	Perhaps in the coming years we'll be able to find the stories and the ideas that will
	unlock those parts of our brain that can think on those immense levels.
	But for me, it's a little bit scary to think on the scale of 450 billion galaxies out there.
	The picture that emerges from these ancient texts is that there's hallways, there's holes
	drilled in space linking these galaxies, and that if we can find the map, then we can travel
	amongst these 450 billion galaxies.
	I mean, I have a tough time sometimes deciding which shopping mall to go to.
	Are you talking wormholes?
	Talking wormholes, yes, exactly.
	That's why these beings are called elves.
	That's another of their names.
	If you think of that matrix as a chess board laid out upon the earth or even upon a sector of space, then they're called elves because they make night moves on the universe.
	If you played chess, a knight moves in an L, and they make 90 degree turns in hyperspace.
	So you are describing beings that Dr. Michio Kaku has described must be out there.
	But I've got them from the ancient texts, and I'm so excited.
	I understand.
	Believe me, I understand where you're coming from.
	It's not easy, but I get it.
	And that's why I say, if there's one person that could understand these myths, it would be him.
	I get it.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with William Henry.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hello, this is Perlene.
	I'm calling from Central Virginia area.
	Glad to have you.
	We're listening from WLNI 105.9.
	I was very interested in your guest tonight, Mr. Henry, who put out some very interesting thoughts there.
	I'd like to maybe touch on some of the things you said earlier in the program about there being a pre-existent state.
	I, along with many others, believe that that is true.
	About 15 years ago I had actually a dream or a vision in which I saw a mechanism that would bring these people from the spiritual realm to the earth.
	I'd be interested in reading this to you actually.
	I wrote it down as soon as I woke up from this vision.
	Well, I would appreciate it.
	Rather than reading, just describe it to us.
	I will.
	In this vision, I found myself actually somewhere that wasn't really a place or a time.
	And it was later in this visit that I recognized it was actually a pre-existent state.
	There were many, many souls there.
	They were individual personalities.
	They were waiting there with one purpose, just to progress.
	Anticipation was just thick there.
	There were some souls felt really elated.
	They were just very, very happy for this.
	Some felt a real foreboding because they knew some way it was going to be a difficult time.
	Everything, though, was very orderly.
	Everything was very organized.
	There was a method of operation there for transferring to this new place that would allow them a progression.
	It was a spiritual mechanism.
	I wrote this down right after I had this vision, it was actually a mechanism and it worked
	kind of like the tumbles of a lock.
	All of the factors involved had to be right in the right place.
	Some of those factors were that soul's readiness to come to this new life, the time and the
	place and the receptiveness of their hosts.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	When all of these components were in perfect synchronization... Then the soul would come through this device.
	Exactly.
	Now, I've got it.
	It scares me to death that I'm understanding all this, but she's got it about right, doesn't she?
	Yeah, she does.
	If you check your email from me again, Artie, I'm hoping you have the continuation of the article with some additional pictures of this pillar, including two from Sumerian cylinder seals.
	Don't say pictures unless you mean pictures.
	Do you mean drawings?
	I mean, I have a couple of drawings and then there's some actual Sumerian cylinder seals which depict this pillar.
	Now, you sent that to me.
	We should have had that on the website earlier.
	Yeah.
	Because there's a big difference between pictures and drawings.
	And drawings, right.
	I'm sorry we didn't get that up in time.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Henry.
	Hi.
	Yeah, hi.
	This is Kevin Cullen from Dallas.
	Hi, Kevin.
	Yeah, I've got a couple of problems with a couple of things that he said.
	One of the first things I noticed earlier, he was mentioning the number 22 and that being the number of chromosomes.
	I personally am homo sapiens, and I believe I have 23 chromosome pairs.
	I want to make sure we're the same species.
	So you simply, hold it, William, you simply got that wrong?
	No, the Sitchin uses the 22 number, plus there's an additional Y chromosome as well.
	You say 22 X's in the Y. Except unless you're female, of course, in which case it's 23 X's, or 23 pairs of X's.
	Actually, since it's pairing, it's 46 chromosomes, so that 22 doesn't really apply.
	Anyway, you cut it.
	Take a look at Zachariah Sitchin's book, The Cosmic Code.
	He addresses this in great detail.
	There may be 22 pairs in there if you count the sex chromosomes, but of course in a female they're all X's, so they don't really differentiate.
	Anyhow, that's just one little thing I wanted to mention.
	What I was going to say, I recognize where a lot of your stuff is being gleaned from.
	I think we've probably read a lot of the same literature and the Sitchin research, also some of the Paget-Lee-Lincoln stuff.
	You've done a good job of pulling together a lot of stuff.
	There also seems to be a definite undercurrent of almost dogmatic religion, or religious concept.
	No amount of scientific research is going to determine the plight of souls.
	I notice that you reference the Bible specifically, and even you started at the top of your first hour talking about that this guy returning was going to be the Christ of the Bible, but nothing that you've described of
	this particular returning entity seems to parallel the Christ of the Bible, including the
	timing of the return, given that according to the Bible, the return of the biblical
	Christ, anyway, is the last of the things that occur in Revelation.
	Yeah, I actually caught the same thing, and I think when we finally pressed him and he
	leveled with us, that's what came out.
	That's right.
	I'm curious as to why he references... William, am I correct?
	Yeah, because it's my belief that the biblical Christ has appeared in different times and different places, and I reference that figure because that's what most people have an awareness and an understanding of, and it's a good place to start talking about this.
	And then to just start to add some of these, what these other sources are saying.
	Yeah, but the problem with this is, by the time you get done explaining what it really is, it isn't what you said in the first place.
	Not even close.
	You just said it so people have a reference, a starting point.
	That's all you did.
	Yeah, and yeah.
	And so the Mueller's complaint really is justified.
	It's justified and it's not done to mislead.
	It's meant to introduce the conversation because There is a tremendous amount of confusion.
	Yeah, but it is misleading.
	Yeah, and no.
	I mean, it's... Yeah, but more yeah than no.
	I mean, it is misleading.
	You know, I understand now what you're saying, and you ought not be afraid to come at it directly.
	Okay.
	I just have a quick follow-up.
	Yeah, Caller, you agree with that?
	Yeah, I understand that, yeah.
	I would say it's misleading in the extreme, and, you know, there are probably... I mean, you're going to immediately lose any Anybody's got any knowledge of revelations, for example, because they say, huh, this can't be right.
	My question is, like I said, clearly there's sort of a dogmatic religious undercurrent, and I'm curious as to, I understand what the origins of some of the, you know, information on the Jed column and the Tree of Life and those references are.
	Where does this whole religious aspect, what's the genesis of that?
	Where does that come from?
	What are you drawing from?
	What's your source for the information aspect?
	For the religious aspect.
	Of the Dijon Killer?
	No, no, of the entire religious aspect.
	The whole concept of the reincarnation of souls and the use of the Tree of Life.
	Okay, I understand now.
	What's the actual origin of that?
	The Enuma Elisha, which is the basis for the Babylonian text.
	No, I'm familiar with that.
	I don't get that out of it.
	I'm reading of it.
	The Egyptian Book of the Dead addresses this.
	Of course, I've already mentioned the Sitchin work.
	Those are the primary sources that I used to piece this story together.
	The Sumerian, the Egyptian, and to some extent, some of the Asian and Hindu myths as well.
	The ancient mysteries, basically.
	Pardon me?
	The ancient mysteries.
	What we basically refer to as the mystery religions.
	I guess about the last of the real ones was probably Mithraism.
	So that's sort of what you would...
	Right.
	And then also, it was the alchemist that really picked up this story.
	It went underground when the patriarchy emerged.
	That is usually traced back to the origins of Christianity, where this story, where the idea that we have not one but two souls within us, and one of them is feminine, was basically erased from much of the stories that you're going to get in the Bible and elsewhere.
	It was done as a control mechanism to keep people focused on God as a male entity, Rather than as a female entity, or perhaps a male-female combined.
	Okay, and what's your basis for that statement?
	Or what's your evidence that that religion was created for that purpose, or that element was introduced for that purpose?
	Oh, well, when you read that, that's partially an interpretation, but partially an examination of the fact of the genocides that occurred throughout Europe and the Middle East of the feminine-oriented religions by the Christian patriarchy.
	The Cathars are an excellent example of this.
	They lived in France in the 1200s.
	The Catholic Church exterminated as many as one million men, women, and children because they were re-igniting some of these teachings.
	They believed that they possessed secret mystery teachings that originated from Jesus and were attempting to create a designer reality based upon these teachings.
	And the Pope wouldn't have anything to do with it, so he sent in his 30,000 warriors, stormtroopers, into the Languedoc and exterminated those people.
	Alright, William, we're going to hold it here.
	Again, I want to ask you about your book.
	There's a 1-888 number?
	Yes.
	That's 888-690-1277.
	Okay.
	What book would you recommend, since you've authored several, that the neophyte would begin?
	What's the best beginning book?
	An excellent beginning book is the One Foot in Atlantis book.
	It's a quick read, lots of sources, lots of different takes on some of these stories that people can follow up and do the research, do the math themselves, and I think they'll come up with similar conclusions.
	All right, well, it has been a real pleasure having you on.
	A very, very interesting night, and it's going to be thought-provoking for me for quite a while, and no doubt we'll have you back on again.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Well, thank you very much, Art.
	I enjoyed it very much.
	Good night, William.
	And I do mean that.
	There were several times during the course of this interview when I was going, huh?
	But it actually did get all tied together for me, and I do understand what he's saying.
	I'm not sure that I agree with it, but I certainly understand it.
	Those are the final words from the high desert.

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