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Dec. 9, 1998 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Earth Changes - Speaking Wind (Patrick Quirk)

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	Speaking Wind, a Native American author, lecturer, and publisher, was raised by Grandfather Two Bears and White Eagle of the Pueblo people.
	He knew them as spirit callers, but in today's terms, we would call them shaman.
	He and his brothers, Chiwe and Nahi, were raised in the mountains of northern New Mexico by Grandfather and Two Bears for almost 20 years in their early life.
	This is where they were introduced to the ways of the Spirit.
	However, these teachings were to be put asleep for a time, and were not to be remembered until the time was right.
	But, before the time was right, Grandfather, Two Bears, and White Eagle left with their bodies.
	And later, Chiwe and Nahe ended their journey with the Earth Mother as well.
	That left Speaking Wind alone to sort out and process what he had been given to share.
	When Speaking Wind, Chiwe and Nahe, were very young, they were placed in a private boarding school for several years.
	This became the first of their experience from having the control of others attempt to bury their spiritual beliefs.
	During their boarding school experience, they were not allowed to speak their people's language or practice their spirituality.
	And they were placed upon them many scars of abuse for breaking these rules.
	However, they did what I did and asked too many questions from the teachings of Grandfather Two Bears and White Eagle.
	Questions the teachers could not answer.
	So, they were labeled as spawns of Satan.
	I'm familiar with such a label.
	And they were forced to leave so they would not influence the children who were not following the devil's evil ways.
	When speaking when Nahe and Chiwe entered the public school system, they could barely read or write.
	So not only the teachers, but the students called them dumb half-breeds.
	That obviously left a mark on them, gave them the determination to pursue their academic goals.
	Chiwe completed his Ph.D.
	...and worked as one of the head archaeologists in the Yucatan Peninsula, uncovering many ancient writings and civilizations that related to ancient prophecies.
	He pursued a career in law enforcement, then went on to become sheriff in a small town in New Mexico.
	Speaking Wind attained two undergraduate degrees, two graduate degrees, and completed one half of his Ph.D.
	He taught in the School of Business at the University of Phoenix, then worked as a consultant in Asia, and almost 16 years in Europe, and he is here tonight.
	Speaking of wind, welcome to the program.
	Thank you, Art.
	Great to have you.
	I have heard of you from many people, but this is the first time that we have ever spoken.
	Yes, it is, and I would like to extend the compliment that I have heard from you, about you, from many of my friends, and everyone speaks of you with A really good heart and a good face.
	Spawns of Satan, huh?
	Spawns of Satan.
	It usually comes when you don't follow the mandates that are set before you or become ascriptive to whatever modalities are set forth on you.
	It's really silly art because it's all fear-driven.
	I know.
	They call me the devil's toe jam.
	And so I accept that, I guess.
	I just roll with it.
	I appreciate that.
	It's a pretty serious situation.
	It's actually more than a friend.
	It's a family member.
	it's a blood cleanser to harvard ever drink tea three times a day
	i i appreciate that uh...
	it's a pretty sick pretty serious situation it's actually a more than a
	friend of family anyway uh... look
	but what i would like to talk with you about what you know of earth changes i can tell you what i
	know i wrote a book
	called the quickening and in that book
	i laid out uh... a very careful chain of evidence in every
	every single area of human endeavor from politics
	uh... to social behavior into the environment
	uh... our economy Relationships between nations and scientific advances.
	Things were beginning to speed up at a faster and faster, even exponential rate.
	And that we're headed toward something.
	But I'm not a prophet.
	I'm not a Native American.
	I'm not privy to any of... So I don't know what it's headed toward.
	All I know is we're moving toward some sort of event.
	Some sort of change.
	And particularly the environment.
	Tonight, for example, I've got a story from the Electronic Telegraph that says the permafrost in Alaska is melting.
	Big pieces of the Antarctic are falling off.
	Birds are where they shouldn't be.
	Fish now are in waters where they should not be.
	Things are changing very rapidly.
	Diseases are in our ocean.
	Crabs and fish with sores that are beginning to make people sick.
	Something is profoundly wrong.
	And that's what I know to be true.
	Yes.
	So the question is, I guess, what do you know about what's happening and what is going to happen?
	All right.
	What I'd like to do is basically take it into four particular phases and begin with just a general caveat.
	And then if you have any questions on that, we can go into that.
	Sure.
	And then little by little hit this thing until we pinpoint toward the end.
	Sure.
	Basically, it's this, and this brings it right into today.
	The material I'll be speaking out of is from the latest manuscript I just finished, was Keepers of the Beast.
	But since June of 1998, everyone began feeling waves of depression and anxiety.
	That's right.
	All for no apparent reason.
	Right.
	Other than the fulfillment of ancient prophecy, which states we are now standing at the end of time for life as we know it.
	While this is true, it is not as final as many would have you believe.
	Neither the earth or life on it is going to end, but it's going to change.
	And it will change of such tremendous proportions it's going to seem as if we're about to become extinct.
	The world basically has been separated into four distinct time periods, each lasting approximately 10,000 years, and we've called them the four worlds.
	Before the first one began, life on this earth was a virtual Garden of Eden.
	There was no pain, no sorrow, no want or desire, but There came a catastrophe that ended that and forced us out of the garden.
	That resulted in the four worlds, each of which held specific lessons for us to learn.
	However, a promise was made, which said, in the end, we will all return to the garden and live in peace for all time, and now that time is nearing.
	Well, the Christians, of course, would suggest that it was a great-looking young lady with an apple in her hand, saying, here, take a bite, and he did, and that was it, and we're out, everybody out of the pool.
	Metaphorically, it's true.
	The thing that took away this garden was a runaway planet that entered the solar system, believing that the knight was the lady of the night, the lady that would take care of us and lay us down to sleep.
	The apple in her hand didn't come from an apple tree, perhaps.
	It came from the runaway planet.
	It literally created the asteroid belt.
	Do you refer, by the way, as you speak of this, to Sitchin's 12th planet?
	Yes.
	Ah.
	All right, well, the 12th planet, I interviewed, as a matter of fact, Mr. Sitchin about three weeks ago.
	About three weeks ago, I think.
	And so I'm quite familiar with what he believes, that this planet, this rogue planet, returns every so often.
	Oh, I misunderstood you.
	No, this is a planet that's still here with us.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	And it is totally out of sync with the other planets in our solar system.
	It has established its own rotation, its own particular orbit.
	And you can see it every night.
	How?
	What's that?
	How?
	How?
	By looking at the North Star, I believe it's called Venus?
	Yes.
	What happened is Earth was a garden.
	Well, we'll go into that in just a second.
	All right.
	But let me get back to a promise that was made.
	Uh, the garden.
	The beautiful garden I was talking about?
	Yes.
	Each of the four worlds had lessons that we were to learn from.
	And a promise was made which said that in the end, we'll all return to the garden and live in peace for all time.
	Okay?
	But this is close to the ending of the fourth world.
	But there was a condition put on all of us.
	One that would have to be met before we would be allowed to enter the garden of life.
	We were told there would come a prolonged period of time among the last generation to live in the fourth world, which is us.
	Where all illusion and the lie we have been told was real must be released.
	In the beginning, this would be voluntary.
	But as we neared the final doorway, the closing of the fourth world, our choices would be less and less.
	And all things that did not hold truth for us, if not voluntarily released, would be stripped away.
	For none of it would be allowed into the fifth world, the Eden we've all longed for, basically.
	But for many of us, like the lie and the illusion is all we've ever known.
	When you speak of the fourth world or the fifth world, are you talking about physical worlds or spiritual worlds?
	Physical world, Art.
	This earth does not end, but it gives the appearance of ending because of the cleansing that's taking place now.
	And all of the stripping away, for example, the illusion, the lie, the things that follow the drummer, follow the tune of the person playing the flute.
	Synchronicity has always played an important role in world events, but we, like many other people, have listened to those events through those that had a louder voice than ours.
	And they could gain our attention, grab our ear, because they not only spoke louder, but they spoke with more either contempt or were able to instill fear into us by doing something wrong.
	And there is no wrong.
	There only is.
	But as long as we listen to others, then we continue with the illusion Alright, I guess I can assimilate pretty much all of what you have just said.
	world has to be run, and we busy ourselves attempting to change everything and everyone
	that comes into our way and give no one freedom.
	And as a result, we blinded ourselves.
	All right.
	I guess I can assimilate pretty much all of what you have just said.
	What does it mean, you say it's going to seem like it's going to end, but it's not?
	It is not.
	For example, Art, since June of this year, there were events that took place on the planet that have caused severe depression for no apparent reason to hit people in waves.
	Anxiety, doubt, fear, and basically a short-term memory loss.
	All of this there's a reason for, and all of it Kind of ties into the prophecies that I have heard that talk about what lies ahead for us.
	For example, the fifth world, the world of peace and light, that's basically our return to the garden.
	That is the garden that used to be on Earth a long time ago.
	And when Venus slipped into our solar system, it was a runaway planet.
	It hit a planet, knocking it into the asteroid belt today.
	It came so close to Mars That it literally, it tore out its atmosphere into space, and then it ran close enough to the Earth to strip away everything that was on the face of the planet.
	Well, we do know, certainly, Mars had an atmosphere, and scientists say, indeed, it was stripped away by something.
	Something of catastrophic proportions.
	Yes, sir.
	And what happened there, Art, is when the people who took heed of the warning that was given that the runaway planet was in a near-collision course with Earth, when it hit The planet that busted into the asteroid belt, it slowed down enough to be pulled into the sun's gravity, and then it sucked out Mars' life, and then it came through and sucked out everything that was on the surface of this planet, and then remained in a stationary orbit today.
	That planet, even its rotation is opposite from any other planet in the solar system.
	It's counterclockwise, and that's Venus.
	And when the people came out from underground, from their safe places, with what little life and plants and other living things they could take in with them, And saw what happened to the Earth.
	They were devastated.
	And they looked up into the night sky and saw that planet just looking back at them.
	And they called that the planet that stole our love.
	Which means the planet of love.
	Ergo Venus.
	That catastrophe seems to have made its imprint on the DNA of every living thing.
	And because of that, there has been throughout history a memory that yes, we had a beautiful Garden of Eden, we had a place that there was no pain, sorrow, illusion, lie, or whatever, and there was something that happened, something terrible that happened that caused it to go away.
	And almost like thinking in just the opposite People have been thinking throughout history that, okay, if I bring the world to the brink of extinction, or if I bring disaster so close that I can mirror or mimic at least a portion of that catastrophe, perhaps we'll be shown the way back to the garden.
	And God or Creator, whatever name you want to use, it doesn't matter, will come in and step in at the last minute.
	Oh, it matters to a lot of people, though.
	Okay, but it's all, in my perspective, all the same one, all the same source.
	We'll step in and save us and show us the way back to the garden.
	I wonder.
	Listen, we're at the bottom of the hour.
	Hold on just one moment.
	Now I see why they dub him Spawn of Satan, as they have me.
	We'll be right back.
	I used to tell television crews who would come out here Please don't photograph my house.
	Please, oh please, don't do that.
	You know, obviously I don't want a lot of people coming out here.
	It's a private residence, not a tourist location.
	But finally, it was on NBC.
	It was on just about every network you can imagine.
	And my house has been splashed across every newspaper.
	So I finally said, out of the hole with this.
	And I went out and took a photograph myself of my own house.
	And put it up on my website.
	It's up there now.
	At www.artbell.com.
	Finally, I threw out my hands and I said, that's it.
	I might as well post it myself.
	What the hell?
	And so it's up there.
	And I got an email from somebody today and said, hey Art, I've got a much better picture of your house than you do.
	So I guess they're going to send it to me.
	If it's better, I'll post that.
	Also, One additional item, and that is when I was in Vancouver filming the episode of Millennium, I had the opportunity, of course, to spend a great deal of time with the director of Millennium, with the star of Millennium, Lance Hendrickson.
	And Thomas Wright, the director, bless his patient heart, I'm sure that after he worked with me for a time, he would smile and say, you're doing great, and go in the back room, probably bat his head up against the wall.
	And then Lance Hendrickson, who's the star of Millennium, who's a great guy, really cheered me on, and I sat there and screwed up my lines, but there's photographs of all of that up on the website as well.
	www.artbell.com.
	decided let you know that's all up there back now to speaking wind
	now you're back on the air again my friend welcome back thank you are uh...
	so the fourth and the fifth world the fifth world being the
	return to the garden but somehow i have this distinct feeling that before
	whoever is to make it to the fifth world makes it
	there's going to be a lot a lot of changes uh... in the world we have now
	and a lot of people are not going to make it and what kind of prophecies
	can you tell us about that lay ahead for us
	I mean, that really is pretty much what everybody wants to know, and I know there's a lot of Native American prophecy, and we would appear to be in that time now.
	I could be wrong about that, but it sure looks like it's here now.
	It's here now, Art.
	It isn't anything that's going to happen, or that might happen one day.
	It started Like I said, the final cleansing of Earth began in June of 1998.
	In September of this year, the five brothers, we call them the planets, aligned themselves to usher in the cleansing energies of the Earth.
	And the chaos everyone has been anticipating, or the tearing away of the illusion and the lie, will begin between January and April of 1999.
	January and April?
	Of 1999.
	And that will continue to escalate until the nine brothers of the planets align themselves on the 5th of May, 2000.
	And from that date until the last day of the fourth world, which is December 22, 2012, everything living will undergo a purge.
	And if we're not willing to willingly let go of the illusion and the lie, it's going to be stripped away.
	Well, when you say the illusion and the lie, what do you mean?
	The illusion comes from believing in others rather than yourself.
	And the lie tells us we have the right to judge others as good or evil or right or wrong.
	And that's basically it.
	We're raised with that from the time our feet touch the earth.
	And for so many of us, we leave the earth not ever knowing who we are or understanding we're created out of love and that our true nature is to be loving and nurturing, not destructive.
	And yet we are so destructive.
	We are so destructive.
	Very much so.
	And if you've ever looked from a clinician's point of view, In the psychological arena of human behavior patterns and the ability of expressing oneself, when an individual is very frustrated, they have a very difficult time getting to any of the root causes of their problems.
	They tend to acquiesce toward the symptoms instead of what is really the root of this thing.
	It's almost like history has shown us that we've been treating symptoms of love, the love we were created with.
	Instead of looking for that love and nurturing it within ourselves, we look for it from somebody else.
	And when somebody else doesn't meet our expectations, which we don't even know what they are most of the time, then it becomes wrong.
	And we just meddle things up.
	But as far as the other things that are going to happen, between now and 2012, the polar ice caps are melting right now at an alarming rate.
	And soon the coastlines are going to rise by more than 65 feet.
	And the ring of volcanoes in the Pacific Ocean are coming back to life.
	This is causing Antarctica and the polar caps to melt as well.
	65 feet.
	That would mean no New York.
	65 feet are no LA, no San Diego, no San Francisco, no Seattle, no anything on the coast.
	Pretty much.
	And when you look, the preponderance of systemic logic from the scientists today tell us that Yeah, there are big chunks of ice in Antarctica melting off, like one that was, I believe, the size of Rhode Island.
	Yes.
	At the ocean.
	Yes, sir.
	And they said that if you take a glass of water and put ice cubes in it, and watch the ice melt, as the ice melts, the water level doesn't go up.
	But that is predicated on the assumption that the ice is already in the water.
	These ice packs are not in the water yet.
	There are All over the world, there are earthquakes, floods, strange diseases, and food shortages.
	All of that is going on.
	And it's going to even be more prominent within the next three years.
	And some of the other things that are taking place.
	They speak of two, five, and nine brothers that will align themselves.
	And when they do, it signals the end is near.
	But the two brothers, let me start with those.
	In 1996, they surfaced in the ocean.
	In short, they're a bonded set of bacteria that, once introduced into the tissue of any living thing, results in its ultimate death if not treated.
	And I don't know if you've read about it, but people swimming in the oceans off of California and Florida, they've been contacting this disease.
	They've been contracting these sores on their body.
	Yes, I know about that.
	And if not treated, it's fatal.
	Now, this bacteria It enters the body through any cut or any scrape.
	Any place that allows it passage into the bloodstream, and then... That's correct.
	Once inside, it takes root and begins destroying red blood cells.
	And, uh, the bacteria multiply so fast, the white blood cells can't keep up with them.
	In a matter of a few days, if they're not treated, you know, ultimate death.
	Uh, but that's just the beginning.
	Once this bacteria has been seen in the oceans, it will have already infected the fresh water supply all over the world, and by then it'll have mutated into another form.
	And this new form of bacteria causes deformities among all newborns.
	Remember what we saw about the frogs?
	Oh, yes.
	Okay, it's also happening among the plants and the humans, too.
	Then, in September of 1998, the five planets made their appearance, which ushered in the five planets that aligned themselves with the Earth to the Sun.
	And they opened up the next big bunch of energy that started coming in, one that set into motion a worldwide purge for all living things.
	This is partially responsible for the hostility, the memory loss,
	the agitation, the depression, but it's necessary in order for one to recognize their
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	The science side of everything that you have mentioned is absolutely accurate.
	All of these things, and we could even discuss more, they're all going on.
	Yes.
	But how would you convince people that the reason that all of this is going on has to do with the spiritual side of things That you're laying out for us tonight.
	Okay.
	There was a promise that was made a long time ago, and it's a promise that kept all of us above board that eventually we're going to all get back to a better time, a better place, a better land.
	And it's in danger of happening now, Art.
	The last day of the fourth world, December 22nd, 2012, there's something that has come about that Can stop that from happening.
	It's called the HAARP Project.
	And it is just devastating.
	It became operational in June of this year.
	I'm very, very much aware of HAARP.
	Yeah.
	As a matter of fact, there has been some recent news, even some evidence, pretty good evidence, I would say, that the recent snow in central Arizona was uh... not natural uh... we can correlate uh... harp activity with that uh... a snowstorm that occurred near the turret mountain area in closed route seventeen uh... totally unnatural in central arizona and you can look at the harp activity and you can correlate you can't prove i suppose that one cause the other but you can certainly correlate the activity uh... and the synchronicity of it now
	They claim, of course, that HAARP is simply something designed to study the ionosphere with regard to communications.
	I think the stated goal is to look for underground tunnels and bunkers.
	But a lot of people, including Dr. Begich and others, think that it is an attempt at weather control.
	And you obviously believe that.
	It goes a lot deeper than that, Art.
	You know about Nikola Tesla, right?
	Tesla?
	Uh-huh.
	Yes, of course.
	He was the discoverer of the alternating current power source and transmission.
	Yes.
	And did you know that just before his death in 1943, all reference of his work was removed from the libraries?
	Well, I know that when Tesla died, the government, FBI in fact, came in and scooped up all of his papers, all of his work, and took it away.
	Yes.
	That's a true story.
	Exactly.
	And now it is called the High Frequency Act of the World Research Project, HARP.
	It's basically, it's more of a ground-based Star Wars weapon.
	It's causing people to undergo these waves of depression, Art.
	And later, if it's not checked, it's going to ultimately cause their demise.
	But it has the capability of manipulating the environment in a way that it can change weather patterns, disrupt global communications, disrupt human mental processes, negatively affect health, and impact the upper atmosphere in a way that can't be reversed.
	Alright, why... Let me play the skeptic here for a second.
	You got it.
	Why would our own government want to begin tinkering virtually with the lives and the welfare of its own people?
	Alright.
	Chemical and biological warfare is outlawed.
	Yes.
	But what would happen if you could get by with that, and still remain within the letter of the law, not the spirit, but the letter of the law, and be able to affect human behavior patterns, or even affect an approaching army, and not even have them know it?
	I grant you that if you could, if HAARP could be used as a weapon, and Dr. Biggage has certainly alluded to that, That it could be.
	That it could be used to confuse, for example, focus so narrowly that it could be used to confuse the enemy on the battlefield, mentally confuse them.
	That, I understand, that our sweet government would pursue like crazy as what they would call non-lethal weapons technology, but why would they use it on their own people?
	Because they can't control it, Art.
	They believe they can, but they can't.
	Instead of just going up and in one direction, it goes everywhere.
	It goes across the horizon as well as into the air.
	One of the things that a friend of mine told me about, that they had the ability of reading an extract from a written policy for non-lethal weapons, which states The term adversary is used in this broadest sense, including those who are not declared enemies, but who are engaged in activities we wish to stop.
	And this ties right into local law enforcement, as well as the armies and whatnot.
	But if you look at what the major premise, what this harp is actually causing, it's interfering with the Earth's magnetic field.
	And when we alter that, or damage it, Do away with it, which is impending on the horizon right now.
	There's not going to be any more rational human behavior.
	There's going to be even less of memory.
	And this is resulting in fish losing their way, birds flocking the wrong direction in winter and summer.
	That's going on now.
	Yeah.
	Whales beaching themselves.
	All that's going on.
	All that's going on.
	You know, you're going down a path.
	That so many people have gone down on my program that I must stop you now, and we had a discussion just prior to the show.
	You're in, where in Alabama?
	Yes, in Huntsville.
	Huntsville.
	And though we do have an affiliate there, you have never heard my show, have you?
	No, I haven't.
	So you're not picking up on what previous guests have said on my show, correct?
	No.
	Well, in that case, let me tell you, what you're saying is going to resonate and with my listeners just tremendously resonate with them because you're saying what so many of my other guests have said uh... that it it's uh... it's too much synchronicity for my poor little cold infested mind right now uh... obviously then we're getting this then from a separate source well speaking when what is your background uh... you you are of mixed blood
	Yes, yes.
	On my father's side, they're from the Isle of Man.
	And on my mother's side, they're from... My grandfather left the Athletic Pueblo.
	His parents died, and he was adopted from there in about 1898.
	And then we've lived in town since then.
	In town.
	Well, you're obviously very articulate, and you obviously have had a significant formal education.
	No question about that.
	How did you manage to hold on to your original culture and belief through so much formal education and so much exposure to our world?
	Primarily, it was basically when I died, Art.
	I went to, I guess you could call it heaven, the waiting place, whatever you want to call And, uh, I was in Europe at the time.
	We were undergoing a lot of negotiations with the tariff structures and whatnot.
	And I was sitting in a chair, and all of a sudden there was a guy that came knocking at the door, which really ticked me off.
	I was tired anyway.
	But it was a nice sunny day, so I went to the door and answered it.
	And every time he'd ring the doorbell, he would disappear.
	Finally, I just got fed up and went out to the back patio.
	And he was sitting there waiting.
	He said, uh, it's time to leave now.
	And I thought the guy was really a joker and I threatened to call the Pulitzer on him and say, if you don't leave now, that's going to be it.
	He said, well, just find a comfortable place to sit and I'm leaving.
	But when I went, the only thing I remembered was lifting like floating and going down this long, I could feel ribs, like a dark rib.
	Went through this long tunnel, went up through a door of all things, like a trap door in the earth, and that's where I met Grandfather, Two-Bear, White Eagle, Chiwe, Nahe, and the Great Messenger, or the Christ, was there, told me that it was time to start writing, and remember the things that I had learned to continue my brother's research, that he discovered things in the Yucatan Peninsula, and start writing books.
	All right, speaking wind, hold it right there, and books he has written.
	As a matter of fact, we've got links to those now on my website.
	We're going to get another link up shortly when I can get hold of Keith.
	He's out enjoying a late night something or another, so we'll get hold of him shortly.
	From the high desert, I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM.
	Speaking of wind, welcome back.
	Thank you, Art.
	I'm so sorry.
	I should be in better condition to be interviewing you, but I am sorrowfully... Well, I'll tell you, some virus has got hold of me and won't let go.
	Is it in your head?
	Maybe it's harm.
	I'll tell you what.
	Yeah, it's in my head.
	I'm sneezing and coughing and hacking.
	It has not yet gone to my chest.
	When it does that, it's even worse.
	There's an old home remedy that works really well on these things, Art.
	If you take salt water, hot wash basin in the bathroom, get the water as hot as you can take it, and take a washcloth, stir up the salt in there, take about one-fourth of a cup of salt for your sink, and wash diligently behind the ears And if you take your finger right behind the earlobe against the neck, you'll feel a little hole back there behind, or an indentation back there.
	Really?
	Those are the, really, virtually the only two membranic openings you have in the cerebral area.
	If you steam that, and then just take a little bit of menthol on the tip of your finger while it's hot, and put it back there, it's absorbed directly into the head, and chances are people won't really smell.
	You, with all of the mentolatum on you.
	But within about two minutes, it moves through the cerebral area, it clears up the spinal passages, it relieves the pressure, goes down the trachea, stops the sore throat, and goes into your lungs and helps you to cough out any flemur congestion that might be in there.
	Now it's not down there yet.
	What I've got right now is a sore throat and two spigots that are wide open.
	Oh my.
	You know, they make these little nose buckets now.
	Nosebuckets!
	Nosebuckets!
	Oh, God!
	Well, at least you made me laugh.
	Nosebuckets.
	I hope it didn't hurt to laugh hard.
	Oh, boy.
	And in the meantime, have you heard of the release of these new secret majestic documents?
	I just thought I would ask.
	No, I haven't, but I heard you talk about them on the air.
	Yes, they've sent them to me.
	This thing is about 200 pages long, and it's full of about A million things that would, it seems to me, get me thrown straight into jail and I'd never see the light of day again.
	Oh no.
	Let's hope for the best on that.
	Yeah, let's.
	Anyway, listen, back to nose buckets.
	Oh my God.
	That draws a mental picture that Really lasts for a while, you know.
	Doesn't it?
	You know when they can pierce the nostril, put a little ring in there, and then you have something to hang the nose bucket on.
	You really do need a nose bucket.
	Well, you're okay, Arden, until you have to get the siphon hose out.
	Oh, man.
	Ah, the afterlife is going to be alright.
	Looking forward to it.
	Anyway, on the serious side of things, all these things are occurring, and you say they will continue to increase in intensity.
	Yes, in intensity.
	Through the year 2012?
	2012.
	That's the end, of course, of the Mayan calendar.
	Well, it's the end of the fourth world.
	It's not the end of the world.
	And, you know, it's not really a prophecy of gloom and doom.
	It's just a prophecy of their changes coming.
	Well, now let's qualify that a little bit.
	I've heard a lot of people who are, you know, I'm the half empty glass of water.
	And a lot of people like you that are the half-full glass of water, and you say things like, well, it's not the end of the world, and it's not gloom and doom, but on the other hand, let me ask you some direct questions.
	Sure.
	For example, what percentage of the Earth's population do you imagine surviving to the next world?
	About one in a thousand.
	About one in a thousand.
	Under normal circumstances.
	You can say that's not doom and gloom, but I look at it from a pragmatic point of view, and one in a thousand doesn't seem like great odds to me.
	Well, it depends on what your number is, Art.
	It's not like the draft system.
	It's primarily how we perceive ourselves in life.
	If you perceive this as all there is, then yes, it can become gloom and doom.
	If you perceive that There are better days ahead.
	Let's get there.
	For one in a thousand.
	Of course.
	And probably people wearing earrings aren't going to make it through and sure as hell people with nose buckets aren't going to.
	You know what?
	I'm going to turn you over to my audience, and I know that they have a lot of questions for you.
	I hope they do.
	I know they do.
	It's in there.
	Every line has been ringing since you've been on the air.
	And they've heard people like you.
	I know that you are familiar with Robert Ghostwolf.
	Are you not?
	Yes.
	Robert is a very good friend of mine.
	Very nice guy.
	I spoke to him, as a matter of fact, earlier today.
	And I have interviewed many other... As a matter of fact, I interviewed some Hopi elders.
	In what was a very difficult show, because we had to translate as we went.
	Oh my.
	And that was arranged by Robert Ghostwolf, and they said virtually exactly what you're saying.
	It took a lot longer to say it, because we had to translate as we went.
	But it sort of fits in with, I interview prophets, I interview scientists, I interview physicists, I interview people like yourself, and I interview Catholic priests.
	I interview gazillions of people who look at what's going on in our world, and from all of these different disciplines and belief systems, you're all saying roughly the same thing.
	And I'm going to be honest with you, that scares the hell out of me.
	Oh.
	It can, Art.
	It can.
	What do you understand of the nature of time?
	In other words, is what's going to occur absolutely fixed, or can it be averted, or changed, or in some way lessened?
	Oh, yes.
	It can definitely be lessened.
	And from the perspective of fear, it can absolutely be changed.
	Have you ever had a shot when you were a kid?
	A shot?
	Uh-huh.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know what it was like when you watched that needle going toward your arm?
	Yes, I do.
	It was terrible.
	As opposed to looking away and just feeling a little ping and then it's done.
	I believe what I'm doing is attempting to correlate or contrast and compare between looking at the events that are going to happen with or without our permission through fear or through understanding.
	And we get through a mark.
	We definitely get through them.
	Okay, well here's... I believe what you're saying.
	In other words, I believe that if the world moves toward a more spiritual center and gets back in line with the Earth, that we will lessen what's going to occur.
	Absolutely.
	But the naysayers, the people who think that the kinds of things that you're saying and others are saying is a bunch of bunk, they say this is just a way to cover Um, cover yourself.
	In other words, then when something doesn't happen, you have an opportunity then to come back and say, you see, it didn't happen because we got the message out and people became more spiritual, and so it's all a big hoax.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	The events are going to happen, Art.
	The perception is what can be altered.
	The perception?
	Yes.
	For example, if you want to call it heaven, or if you want to call it home, wherever we go after we leave this earth, It isn't a place as much as it is an understanding.
	life here is more of an understanding
	in order to find that gentleness that that love that and that that peacefulness
	that we've always looked for in everybody else except ourselves
	uh...
	what do you understand about the nature of the other side of death itself of physical
	I've been there twice, Art.
	There's no pain associated with death.
	It's fear associated with it.
	This, for all practicality, and in order to be concise and to be brief, I perceive this life as a part-time job as opposed to our full-time job after we leave here.
	However, when you attempt to be gainfully employed in your part-time job as an employee of someone else, not much makes sense.
	The fewer things that make sense, the more prominent fear becomes in your life.
	When you use this part-time job as being self-employed, working for yourself, Then, more things tend to make sense, and with the more things that make sense, understanding is increased and fear is decreased.
	There's a direct proportion of relationship between fear and understanding, just as there is between hurt and fear, fear and love.
	So then, would you suggest that an understanding of death itself, or the process of death, physical death, once that understanding is reached, There would not be fear of the changes that are to come, whether you're one of the one in a thousand or not.
	Well, you know, it really doesn't matter for one of the one in a thousand or not.
	It's a process that each of us are going to have to do at one time or another.
	It becomes a matter of understanding that this is not all there is.
	There is more.
	And while we're here, we have, each of us have our own destiny.
	Each of us have our own Trademark, so to speak.
	We have the freedom of choice to leave some kind of a mark in this world.
	You realize that when you find your destiny, you can achieve your destiny in approximately 25 seconds, and that's when you set emotions into event that will take place and transpire and unfold as your life goes on.
	When this life is over, and this seems to become tantamount to the level of understanding people are willing to accept They don't believe this life will ever be over.
	And I've been there, too.
	I know what it's like.
	At one time, a long time ago, I was young, and I thought that I could bounce higher than the moon and last longer than rock.
	But as we grow older, we tend to take a more beneficent look at ourselves and our accomplishments in life.
	And I'm not so sure if it's acquiescing to a matter of the exponential curve that we go through in life, or Looking at all the experiences that we've gleaned through the years and years of practice, and sometimes, you know, practicing the same thing over and over, but as much as it is realizing that our time is not finite.
	I mean, it is finite.
	It is not infinite.
	Oh, I'm certainly learning that.
	Listen, one question.
	We're at the bottom of the hour.
	How did you get the name Speaking Wind?
	Because I have a big mouth.
	Because you have a big mouth.
	In the spirit of that, then, speaking wind, and you've also got a very articulate mouth, I am going to take from you my Native American name.
	From here forth I shall be known as Nose Buckets.
	We'll be right back.
	♪♪ There is apathy.
	People really don't seem to care about anything past getting to Friday and the weekend.
	Too many people.
	How do we change that?
	Until the different latitudes of thinking are changed, the preponderance of people tend to believe that if it hasn't happened before, it's not going to happen now.
	Until it's too late and then everybody freaks and panics.
	When you look at folks, how many people actually do preventative dental care, taking care of their own teeth, and that's right inside their mouth?
	And hopefully every time they smile, that's something they see.
	How do we regard apathy or lethargy?
	I think it becomes ascriptive to a word that we've all been taught is real, but it really isn't, and that word is patience.
	Developed by somebody with a real sick sense of humor.
	Patients that I've seen in the marketplace, whatever you want to call it, tends to make people lethargic and very apathetic.
	They no longer take the responsibility of being creative or proactive in their own life.
	Well, how much is this internalized versus what you were discussing earlier with what you think is going on with heart?
	Very much so, Art.
	Again, the premise that it has never happened before, so what are the chances of it happening now?
	In a lot of cases, the people that I've talked to, and my son and I do seminars all across the country, the preponderance of a response for something like HAARP that is actually accelerating the acceleration is like, gee, I can't relate to that.
	Well, what can I do?
	It's beyond my control.
	It's almost like we live in this womb that tells us the only thing we have an effect on is what's within our house.
	That's right.
	And maybe only a couple of rooms within our house.
	But there are ways around that.
	Like I mentioned before in the latest manuscript, Keepers of the Beast, there's a technique for getting around that.
	All right.
	And as a matter of fact, hold on one second.
	Let me redo this.
	As a matter of fact, We now have a link to your website on my website, and the one you wanted me to get up earlier.
	So everybody, if you would go up to my website, which is www.arkbell.com, and go down to Speaking Wind's name, you will see a link to energymedicinesociation.com.
	And just click on that, and you can go do some reading about what you're hearing about right now.
	Um, Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Hi, it's Waldo.
	Waldo, where are you?
	Well, I used to live in Tehachapi.
	I talked to you about, I don't know, three or four years ago.
	Where are you now?
	I'm in Kansas City.
	Okay.
	Home of the Cursed Chiefs.
	Yeah, well, so much for them, huh?
	No offense, Speaking Wind.
	A.K.A.
	Patrick, right?
	Right.
	Anyway, I read the message.
	I read, I think it was, what was it?
	I don't know if it was your second book or maybe it was your first book.
	It was great.
	You do have a layman name, which is Patrick Edward Quirk, correct?
	Yes, yes I do.
	Anyway, I was watching the X-Files and I came back in and I heard your voice and I said, My God, that's speaking wind!
	I met you through Bernie and all those guys back at IBI if you know what that is.
	Yes, absolutely.
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	I'm just kind of floating through life and waiting for whatever is going to happen next.
	I just kind of wanted to ask you what you really think is going to happen here.
	We're definitely going to go through some changes.
	The more that we hold on to the way things have been, the more it's going to affect our perception of tomorrow.
	It's like I have my favorite old shirt, and I love that shirt.
	I'm always sitting in the house with my shirt.
	There are no more elbows in it.
	There's very little neck in it, and the buttons Thank goodness for a prayer and a whisper.
	That's the only thing that I have a memory of where the buttons once were.
	But when people come over to the house and I have people visiting and I have to look more appropriate and change shirts, I don't feel as comfortable without my old shirt.
	And I've got a favorite down vest just like that.
	Isn't it great?
	Isn't it 20 years old?
	Yeah!
	I've been given really nice ones, but I've just got to keep wearing it.
	It's got all the pockets and stuff.
	Exactly!
	Anyway, I guess what I really want to know is when I last spoke with you, it was over the phone with Debbie or something like that a long time ago, 619 area code or something, and you were writing like eight or nine books or something and I had two.
	Have you written any more?
	I mean, have you published any more?
	As a matter of fact, I have six new ones and I have been in front of the computer for the last year and a half for about 18 hours a day.
	You can look at them.
	Go to Art's website and then tap on the energymedicineassn.com.
	There are treatments and synopsis in them.
	Right now we're working with some Hollywood producers that are interested and we're talking back and forth.
	We're still in a talking state for all six books to do movies and TV series on them.
	Well, I got chills, man.
	I'm so happy for you.
	It's wonderful.
	I think that's awesome.
	All right, my friend.
	Thank you very much for the call, and take care.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Where are you, please?
	My name is John, and I'm talking to you from Utica, New York.
	Hi, John.
	Hey, how are you, Art?
	I've talked to you a few times over the years.
	It's been a while, but I'm sorry you're under weather, and we'll pray a prayer for your relative.
	Thank you.
	That's fine.
	Hey, oh yeah, Art, I forgot to say, Art, I thought you'd get some stuff on the Lorraine Day, since she had the cancer.
	Obviously, that's one avenue I'm going to follow, sure.
	Okay.
	Oh, Mr. Spiegel, it's a great pleasure to talk to you.
	Well, thank you, and good morning to you.
	Okay, sir.
	I was wondering, with all the stuff that's going on environmentally and sociologically and all the suffering and chaos that goes on in the world, What do you think are the steps that we can take collectively and consciously as a world to regain the balance and the healing that the world needs?
	At least I feel instinctively that we all need to love, but what do you think?
	How can we do that?
	I think that is a very good question and to answer you truthfully.
	When we can finally look inside ourselves and love ourselves and come to understand who we are and not just who we're told we are, life becomes a very valuable commodity and everything around us becomes something very special.
	It's when we can see the world we live in through those kinds of eyes that we'll stop raping it and just stop destroying it.
	Have you ever met Betty Eadie?
	Yes, Betty is a good friend of mine.
	Oh really?
	That's amazing because I see her all the time at seminars and she says just her thoughts alone tend to transcend these happenings that are going on around us and we just need to generally purify our thoughts in any way we can with all this love.
	It can be so tough with all the cynicism.
	I'll give you a little clue on a good way to do that.
	When you get up in the morning and look in the bathroom mirror, chances are, like myself, I usually give out one big scream because of what I see.
	It looks very alien to me.
	But if you can just look in your eyes and call yourself by name and just say, I love you, and start your day off like that, it's a beginning.
	At the beginning, that someone doesn't have to tell us how, and we find our own way, and then light becomes special.
	It becomes something meaningful, and we're a part of it.
	We're instrumental, and we're very important.
	And the next time that you see Betty, please tell her she owes me a phone call.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	Have a great Christmas, guys.
	Take care.
	You, too.
	Have a wonderful holiday.
	Okay.
	Oh, what's for the Rockies?
	You're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Hi.
	Good morning, Art.
	Good morning, Speaking Wind.
	My name is John.
	I'm calling from Ogden, Utah.
	Yes, sir.
	Good morning, John.
	Good morning.
	With no disrespect meant to your guest, Art, I think my question is more directed towards you because Speaking Wind said that he hadn't heard your program prior to tonight.
	Right.
	And the reason I brought that up is because so much of what he said echoes, you know, so much of what we've heard from other guests on my show.
	That I thought I had to qualify that.
	Anyway, go ahead.
	Well, my question is this, Art.
	A couple nights ago, we were discussing Hawaii 2K, and the world's going to end on the January 1st of 2000.
	No, nobody said the world's going to end.
	Well, I mean, we went along that direction.
	Maybe the world as we know it.
	I mean, if computers and mainframes fail, the world as you know it will change on that day.
	All right, sir.
	Now, I think it was the next night, the Catholics are saying that the world's going to end on the 30th of June.
	When we get hit with the bolide.
	Yes, right.
	Tonight, your distinguished guest says we're pretty safe until 2012 anyway.
	Yep.
	All right, who do I believe?
	Who do you want to believe?
	I mean, in other words, I don't think for you, sir.
	I present information and I presume that you can think for yourself.
	Yes, sir.
	So I'll turn the question on you.
	Who do you believe?
	I have to listen to all three of the guests.
	I don't have a clue.
	Okay, I'm with you.
	Do I prepare for the 30th of June?
	Do I prepare for the 1st of January?
	Well, I do have a suggestion there.
	Sir?
	Forget the dates.
	Prepare.
	Prepare, right?
	Yeah.
	Alright, on the flip side of that, Art, it is really special to hear somebody as spiritual as your speaker tonight.
	It's good to hear spirituality versus religion.
	I'm not sure there really is a distinction between spirituality and religion.
	I think that people who are religious are spiritual.
	Some are not.
	Some are hypocritical.
	But some who claim to be spiritual are hypocritical as well.
	So I think it's a great mix.
	I wouldn't say a Catholic is Because they believe in Catholicism is not spiritual.
	Would you, Speaking Wind?
	No, Art.
	I believe that anybody that can love from the heart and live from the heart, this is the true nature of the human race.
	I agree with that.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, good.
	Thank you.
	Speaking Wind, also, you've been sounding really good tonight.
	I love the messages coming out.
	Thank you.
	I've had the pleasure of attending some meetings here in Los Angeles of a collective that's speaking through a Russ Brown who is a born psychic and they have been warning us that there's something much more dangerous even than harp that's in the works that we must all put our attention on as soon as possible and that is work on breaking into the fourth dimension and taking weapons into that dimension or even crude material from the third dimension that could create a devastating destruction of Much of creation.
	I'm wondering, is there anything of that information in the information that you're bringing forth?
	In a way.
	Have you ever noticed when just in the normal run of a day, when you're just really angry, really ticked off at either one person or several people over the world, how those same kinds of attitudinal behavior patterns expressed by people come into your life?
	Absolutely.
	The old adage, live by the sword, die by the sword type of thing.
	As you think, so shall it be.
	Precisely.
	The answer to your question, or perhaps an answer, is instead of carrying the weapons, why don't we just learn to love ourselves and attract others of like ilk?
	And as people see, all it's going to take is just a few people that can see it's possible.
	We've been away from that for so long.
	We've lost our ability in so many cases of understanding the love we were created with, and that's what grows within us.
	When that happens, it's almost like beating the swords into plowshares.
	I truly believe that When we can learn to understand the love we have within us and it's expressed in whatever way, that has such an unbelievable proportional effect on everyone around us that weapons won't become an issue.
	But the longer that we carry that sidearm, the longer we carry the knife, the longer we carry whatever out of fear, then we become like a magnet.
	When you have several magnets together, It creates a stronger magnetic force.
	So I believe the answer is us.
	If we want to change things, we have to do it within ourselves, within our heart, and get out of the head, get out of the judgmental thing, attempting to look at the world through standards other than our own, and just accept the love we were created with and let that flow forth.
	As a result of that, as a direct result of that, and as an immediate result of that, I believe you'll find people laying down their weapons.
	When you're in love, when you feel love, it's amazing, but if you ever notice, trouble doesn't seem to find you.
	That's very true.
	Now, our approach to a subject, too, and that is leaving the planet through death and being someplace else, in the context that you're speaking tonight in terms of the promise that was made to us collective and the promise that will be kept in terms of a fifth world Will many of the souls that don't make it directly by staying alive into the fifth actually reincarnate into the fifth later?
	Absolutely.
	That's part of the promise that was made to us from the beginning, and that was that no one is destroyed or lost along the way.
	Everyone makes it.
	Some, it just takes a little while longer.
	Oh, that's fascinating.
	That's such a beautiful expression of what a real God is, that the mercy and the grace is so far beyond our human understanding.
	Colin, I've got to run.
	We're at the top of the hour.
	Thank you very much.
	I agree completely with you.
	Speaking of which, hold on.
	Folks, if you get a chance, go to the theater and see a movie called What Dreams May Come.
	Echoes of what you just heard.
	we'll be right back now a very much more prolific author than myself
	uh... speaking with you've got how many books In the last 18 months, Art, I have written six books.
	Good Lord, man!
	What do you do, nothing but?
	Nothing but, Art.
	And like you, this Christmas I have sent out through the mailing list that I'm doing a special on them.
	The manuscripts will stop once the book comes out, and I'll be doing the first book sometime after the first of this year.
	Oh, so in other words, what you've got now is in manuscript form.
	In manuscript form.
	They are signed by me.
	They're signed over to whoever buys them with a statement, and each are numbered.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	That's absolutely excellent.
	And how do they obtain that?
	They just go into that Energy Medicine ASSN.com website.
	All right, that we have a link to.
	Yes, and they click on to order books from me.
	I know you're also on Amazon.com.
	I am?
	Yep.
	You didn't know that?
	No.
	Well, you are.
	There are so many wonderful people that put me out there, and it's so neat to know.
	I get messages from everyone.
	But on the EnergyMedicineAssociation.com, the button on the bottom ties directly into my email.
	Okay.
	And it comes right to my computer when it's working.
	That's excellent.
	Alright, well that's one way.
	What about people, you know, I've got to remember, I'm so deeply involved in computers, maybe all that will end January 1st, 2000, that not everybody has a computer by a long shot.
	What about people without computers?
	What do they do?
	They can write to me.
	At post office box 1-2-6-1-2.
	Wait a minute, do this slowly.
	P.O.
	Box... 1-2-6... 1-2... 1-2... 1-2... Right.
	And that's in Huntsville, Alabama.
	The zip code is 3-5-8-1-5.
	3-5-8-1-5.
	P.O.
	Box 1-2-6-1-2.
	Huntsville, Alabama.
	3-5-8-1-5?
	The zip code is 35815.
	Yes.
	35815.
	Mailbox 12612, Huntsville, Alabama.
	35815?
	Yes.
	Okay, excellent.
	All right, here we go.
	First time caller on the line.
	You're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Hi, where are you, please?
	Talking to me from Kathy from Woodbridge.
	Oh, Woodbridge, New Jersey.
	Hi, Kathy.
	That's right.
	Good old Kathy.
	Yes.
	Listen, guys.
	First of all, thank you, Speaking Wind.
	You've got some great herbal remedies.
	And I would tell Art that he should take some yarrow and go to bed with many blankets and sweat it out because it's great for you.
	And I told him over the phone that I'd get him a case of Slippery Elm lozenges out there.
	I don't think any talk show host should be without Slippery Elm.
	Absolutely, it's great.
	Really?
	Okay.
	We'll get into that some other year.
	Listen, I think that the human beings, us individuals, have been going through some tests for a very long time now.
	And a lot of the tests we seem to be failing.
	One we seem to be failing wholeheartedly in is forgiveness, human kindness, Yes, I do.
	The new test will be definitely the Y2K.
	If we think that gun bolt mentality is going to save us and we don't take in each other
	like the lion taking in the sheep, we are not going to learn a damn thing.
	The next test will be even harder and harder and harder.
	You agree with me?
	Yes, I do.
	As a matter of fact, we have particular lessons to each individual to learn.
	Each time we turn away from them or run away from them, it just gets more emotional until pretty soon we think life is impossible to live.
	But like the lion to the sheep, we're all related.
	We've all been together before.
	And when we can finally come to the place of understanding that in life there are no teachers, there's no gurus, no leaders, no followers, No one knows any more than we do.
	They just know something a little different.
	Then we'll be able to put the pieces to the puzzle together, and I assure you, it's a beautiful picture.
	I'll leave you on this note, and it'll be humorous.
	Art, I've been up with a cold, and I'd rather be up all night with a man.
	Thank you, Kathy.
	Bless you, my soul.
	Bye-bye.
	Take care.
	Yeah, lessons in life.
	I remember fifth grade.
	Boy, I'll tell you, I had a fifth grade teacher.
	She was a beast of a woman.
	She had this ruler.
	She used to wrap me on the knuckles, and I probably still haven't learned.
	A wild card line.
	You're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Where are you, please?
	Oh, this is Carrie.
	I'm in Phoenix, KFYI.
	Of course.
	Art, it's such an honor to finally be on your program.
	Glad to have you.
	This must be the evening for healing remedies, because I've been wanting to tell you for a really long time that the remedy to poison ivy grows right beside poison ivy.
	It's called Arnica, and you can boil it and put it on like a poultice.
	Consult your physician before trying any of this.
	I always must add that.
	Okay, do that.
	Consult anybody.
	Okay.
	Consult Speaking Wind.
	Anyway, um, I, uh, I'm in Phoenix now.
	I wanted to report what it was like for me on Sunday and Monday.
	I could not get off the couch.
	I was so depressed.
	Yes.
	I tried to get out of town just because I thought that that would be better and I couldn't and that isn't why I was depressed.
	But the feeling that I had was unlike anything that I have had before.
	All right, to update the audience, there are many people, Richard Hoagland and others, who think, in fact, actually, they can document that a HAARP test was going on.
	There's no question about it.
	You can go to Richard's page and see the activity.
	You can also see the weather in Central Arizona, which was... Let me ask you, you live down there, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	How frequently do you get that kind of massive snowstorm?
	I don't think we ever have.
	I've lived here for 30 years.
	There was also an electromagnetic pulse that occurred simultaneously.
	And, you know, I always take Richard with a grain of salt.
	He's a very good friend.
	But there were too many things that occurred all at once for this to have been nothing.
	It was something.
	Something occurred in Phoenix.
	Yes, something occurred.
	Not only that, but I used to live in Pine, which is probably the closest town to Turok Peak that there is.
	Right.
	And I had been aware of extraordinarily, I don't know, funky energies for months.
	And I had seen military helicopters flying over my cabin.
	Yeah, there's been a lot of activity in Phoenix.
	No question about it.
	Speaking of wind, I don't know if you've kept up with this or not, but indeed something occurred in Arizona and a lot of people think it's HAARP related and I can't say it isn't because the evidence would seem to point toward HAARP activity.
	Yes.
	One of the things... Kathy?
	No, that was a caller before this one.
	And who is this?
	This one, she's already gone.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, this is for her.
	Whenever she feels the depression again, this will work for another five, maybe six months, to have her cross the index finger, the first line of the index finger to the first line of the thumb.
	That stops things from coming into her.
	Really?
	And when she does the same thing to the right hand, the first line of the index finger to the first line on the thumb, When those are crossed, it stops things from coming out.
	When both hands are closed, it causes a totally entropic function.
	You no longer become a part of whatever's going on around you.
	How does it do this, Pray Tell?
	It does that because these are two centers that you have.
	In other words, the way that we shake hands today is palm to palm.
	Right.
	And when you do that, and you have any kind of emotion inside of you, both people, When that happens, it's like having two speakers going at full blast facing each other inside the poem.
	You can just blow out and you don't feel anything.
	Well, one of the particular areas that we use a lot for intuitive healing and reading is the first line of the index finger to the first line of the thumb.
	When you have those and you hold them in front of you, it almost forms like a U. Anything that comes within that sphere, you can pick up on or you can send out, too.
	Even for somebody that claims not to be intuitive whatsoever.
	So when you cross those lines, you stop, you pull the cable out of the VCR or the television, and you stop your reception.
	So when the depression becomes that strong again, do that.
	And you'll notice immediately that the depression will abate.
	Well, there you go.
	Don't have to consult your physician for that one.
	Just give it a shot.
	Here's to the Rockies.
	You're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Let's see, your name was Nosebucket?
	I can barely hear you, ma'am.
	I said, good morning, your name was Nosebucket?
	Nosebucket, yeah, that's me.
	Bless your heart, Nosebucket, you sound like you do feel awful.
	Yeah, I do.
	Speaking, Wayne, good evening.
	It's an honor and a pleasure to speak with you, sir, and I certainly owe you a tobacco gift.
	It's an I owe you, my personal one.
	Where are you?
	Where are you? I'm listening on WTNN.
	I'm listening on WTNN.
	You You
	You It's an IOU, my personal one.
	Where are you?
	I'm listening on WTNN in Nashville, Tennessee.
	W-W-T-N.
	Correct, in Nashville, Tennessee.
	Right.
	I have a two-part question, sir.
	If I may?
	Of course.
	The first part is regarding myself personally.
	I appreciate the fact that you're Matei, as am I.
	Uh-huh.
	Cherokee descent.
	Yes.
	And I have a problem these days with patients.
	With patients?
	With patients, yes sir.
	I work in the medical field and am currently studying in the medical field and my patients, lack of patients is not connected to my profession at all but rather in my everyday dealings.
	Yes Oh, that's such a good question because it relates to what he was saying about people's attitudes and depression and all the rest of it.
	It works right into that, doesn't it?
	Absolutely.
	First of all, let me caveat the answer by saying that I believe that patience was invented by somebody with a sick mind, that it doesn't exist and that it's just basically a cover-up for lethargy or to just sit there like a little baby bird with your mouth open and waiting for the chewed up worms to come in.
	But as far as working with your patients, this is always a good exercise to follow and Look at the people who are causing disruption in your life or causing you to lose your patience, if there is such a thing, and understand the mere concept in healing.
	You're in a field that is allowing you to help someone, but are we helping from the head or are we helping from the heart?
	When we help from the head, everything is descriptive.
	It's not normative.
	It's like a clinicist looking at the world and determining what the parameters of acceptable modality are, and if you don't follow that, then my goodness, there's something wrong with you, and either get out or get with the program.
	When we look at the patients within ourselves, through the heart, then we have to understand that what we're doing is because we love doing it.
	Because we feel a love for someone.
	And then we kind of remember that they're not feeling well.
	And as they're not feeling well, well, sometimes we can make a few allowances.
	And we begin to understand something that that mirror that we see in them is actually something that we're doing that we're not aware of.
	And visualize a circle of life around you and your peripheral vision is 180 degrees.
	Anything on the positive quadrant that you can see, we can work with and we can understand because we deal with that on a daily basis.
	But the things behind us, the other 180 degrees, Are things we can't see unless somebody else shows them to us.
	So in regard to that, when people get us upset, when they get us angry, they're basically just showing us something we couldn't see without them.
	And when you keep that in the front of your mind, chances are that your latitude of longevity in this area of patience will begin to grow.
	Because everyone comes to us with a wonderful message and it's It's a message of hope, a message of peace, a message of love, because that message is all about us.
	And when we can see that, then everybody becomes equal, and everybody becomes our relation.
	And we know that what we're doing has a purpose.
	All that having been said, for example, Americans right now on the road are exhibiting less patience with each other than they ever have before.
	And I'm no exception.
	As little driving as I do, when I get out there, a lot of days when I get out there, I guarantee you,
	if I had a front-mounted 50 caliber machine gun, and I had a pickle, you know, right up front,
	I'd be pushing the pickle and there would be explosions and flame in front of me,
	and there would be drivers that wouldn't be driving anymore.
	And so a lot of people are out of patience, and I feel it myself.
	And you say there is a... that is a way to deal with it.
	Is that correct?
	Yes, yes.
	Understand that what you're seeing in them that's really perturbing you, you're doing too.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	I've been shown signs from drivers nearby.
	To indicate that's true.
	You know, we have an old saying that says, if you ever wonder who you are in the present, then look at the people that you attract into your life.
	And if you end up attracting nothing but the village idiots, then chances are... I've got you.
	All right, stay right where you are.
	We'll be right back.
	Thank you.
	Back to it we go.
	And I guess I want to open up a subject.
	I want to go beyond impatience to anger.
	Outright anger.
	Speaking of which, we're back on the air again here.
	Yes.
	Yesterday, I began getting death threats from people in the Filipino community nationwide.
	and I discovered that some complete ass wrote this uh this uh this horrid uh little prejudice uh terrible thing about uh Filipino people and their culture and signed my name to it and forged uh uh forged a uh you know forged my Tried to forge my header.
	Now fortunately, you know, he wasn't very good at what he did and it turned out that it came from a University of Southern California at San Diego server and not obviously not from me, but a lot of people in the Filipino community don't know that and so they would like to do me physical harm.
	Well, let me tell you how angry I am.
	I'm angry enough that if I can find this guy and I'm actively looking for who did this, I would send him on to the fourth or fifth world in two seconds flat.
	Or the seventh or eighth.
	Or the seventh or eighth.
	You got it.
	For a lot of personal reasons.
	I mean, my wife is half Filipino, as a matter of fact.
	But I have severe anger about this and I don't This goes to outright, flat, I could do somebody in kind of
	anger, you know?
	Yes.
	How do you deal with that?
	Well, first of all, anger is just an extension of expectation that hasn't been met.
	Yeah.
	And so many times the perpetrator of this action, chances are this individual is just a very angry person.
	No doubt.
	And, you know, when we strike out like he did at you, the reasons behind it are usually because of envy, of wanting to attain something without having to go through the school of hard knocks, and at somebody else's expense.
	And we've had, our whole world history has been like this.
	So many times we use other people's expense to make ourselves look better.
	Ultimately, it does fail.
	I mean, until I can conquer, and I realize, you know, that I need to somehow conquer this kind of anger, because until I can conquer it, and until everybody else can conquer it, we're not going to get to where we need to be going.
	I was just talking to my board op here a minute ago during the break, and I said, man, I know I need a lot more lives, because I, the way I feel right now.
	Yes.
	Art, it's, you know, You're not alone in this.
	Everybody gets these kinds of dogs.
	As sad as it is, we all get them.
	And what does anger bring us?
	I mean, what will anger bring you?
	Other than making every effort you can find to find the individual and to confront that person.
	But in the process, don't become like the bull in your china closet.
	I don't want to just confront him.
	I want to wrap my hands around his throat and choke the life out of him.
	How do you move that one out of the way?
	I don't know.
	Well, first of all, you don't move it out of the way.
	You embrace it.
	And you can't understand it until you embrace it.
	Once you understand the reasons for that, Then you'll be able to work with it.
	But don't wrestle with it because it's going to win.
	Your emotions are a lot stronger than you.
	And they last much longer.
	Your muscles will wear out before your emotions do.
	Yeah, I'm sure that's true.
	Embrace it first.
	Accept the fact that it does exist, that it did happen.
	And once you do that, you'll be able to calm the waters down enough to see the shoreline.
	I don't believe this person is as far away from you finding them as you think.
	However, as long as we have rage or anger, we just can't see.
	We can't see the front of our nose, even the buckets under our nose.
	You know, so many times we have things in life that bother us.
	I know a lot of the industrial psychologists.
	The modality of trend for psychoanalysis has always been Let's wrestle with it, let's confront that.
	Direct confrontation, I really believe it's better to embrace something than to directly confront it.
	Embrace it, understand it, accept the fact that it is there, it did happen.
	And then, all of a sudden, the anger, the rage dissipates.
	And you can see a proactive direction to take.
	But so many times in the history of the human beings in this world, Nothing has ever been settled by killing, by hurting, by doing something at another's expense.
	You know, even the tyrants of the world.
	Intellectually, I understand precisely what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	But I've got to be honest with you.
	It's hard.
	It's difficult.
	It's not enough.
	Somehow it's not enough.
	Look, let me turn to this.
	A question for you.
	It reads, Dear Nosebuckets, please ask the following.
	Could you ask Speaking Wind about the meteor, and there are people who have talked about this, meteor or bolide, predicted to come in during the end of June or the beginning of July next year?
	Bobby, listening in Sacramento.
	Yes.
	It's not just one, there's actually going to be several, but if If people had been astute and listened to a lot of the newscasts, they would have seen within the last year there have been hundreds and thousands of explosions deep in space.
	And there are, gosh, so many of the meteors coming this way.
	Now, we do say that there'll be a time when the stars at night will fall onto the Earth.
	The meteor that's coming this way, It's virtually anybody's guess because of our tracking systems currently are so limited.
	What can we actually look at in the night sky deep in space?
	Less than one-tenth of one percent of the total sky?
	That's right.
	Nor have we categorized, nor do we know, but about a tenth of those Earth-crossing rocks.
	Precisely.
	And when we look at any single event, In this case, the meteor.
	And we tend to face it with fear or we tend to face it with anger or rage.
	How can this happen to me?
	This hasn't happened before, type of thing.
	Our attitudes aren't going to change it.
	What are we ready for in our life?
	I mean, if the world were to end today, this very second, would we be ready?
	When it comes right down to it, and we do this kind of self-assessment, we do one of two things.
	Either we freak out, or we, you know, getting angry at the world and just striking out at anything and everything near and dear to our hearts.
	Or we just understand that do the best you can, because nobody knows how many minutes of breathing time they have on this planet.
	I mean, it can happen at any time.
	I mean, our world can end within a second.
	Look at all of the meteors.
	Look at all the debris.
	Look at all the things that hit this earth.
	All of them.
	And when we look at ourselves in more than just, you know, put on a coat and a tie and go to work and then come home, watch the game and so on, then life does become meaningless.
	And because it is so meaningless, we fear losing it.
	It's almost like a paradigm in a way.
	But as far as the meteor goes, If there's anything you can do to change something, then by all means, become proactive.
	If there's nothing you can do to change it, then why worry about it?
	Look at something that you can work on.
	Here we go again.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Hi, where are you?
	I am in Mexico, sir.
	Mexico?
	Yeah, I sent you an email recently.
	My name is a dolphin, that's what I call myself.
	Alright, where in Mexico are you out of curiosity?
	I am in Tijuana, Mexico.
	Tijuana.
	I know it's very hard to call from Mexico.
	It's really hard.
	Extremely difficult for me today because the lines are very busy and you know that the telephone connections are not that good down here right now.
	In regard to positiveness and anger, I think that we all have to be positive concerning the times we're living in right now.
	I myself have had some tremendous experiences concerning UFO activity.
	I even sent you an email recently, Art.
	I also sent it to Peter Davenport concerning triangle UFO objects.
	flybys here in Tijuana and down in the coast of Baja California, Mexico.
	There has been a lot of activity recently in that area, but I wanted to talk to Mr. Speaking Wim.
	Speaking Wim, yes, in concern to a theory that, well, it's not a theory.
	There was a contact team that was down here in Mexico.
	He's an anthropologist from the southern state of Guerrero.
	He was contacted by what he says are extraterrestrial entities that came from the planet Venus.
	Based on this, he mentioned something about us being controlled in another dimension in regard to hyper-evolutionizing us to a change.
	And I think that that change would be the same change that all of us are thinking of.
	We don't exactly know what it is, but we do know that somebody is hyper-evolving us, in the sense that everything's evolving faster each day.
	And we all feel it that way.
	I would like to know his opinion and concern to that.
	And also, my last question is in regard to what he mentioned about a strange planet a long time ago
	that impacted or hit one of our moons.
	I have to believe this is from a person, the same person that I told you about, Martin Guerrero.
	I have an interview with him. I used to be a radio host, too.
	But unfortunately I had to leave that.
	In regard to that, supposedly what he said that these people told him is that
	one of those strange planets hit one of our two moons, because before we had two moons,
	and one of those moons entered the Gulf of Yucatan, creating the Gulf of Yucatan, I'm sorry,
	and, well, eliminating the dinosaur population.
	I don't know what he has to say about this.
	As a matter of fact, first of all, in answer to, I believe your first question is, Yeah.
	The people that come in from outer space have been here for a long time.
	I have seen them several times and talked with them.
	Some are very nice and others just don't bother me.
	But as far as the two moons going into the Gulf of Mexico, my brother Chi-Wei discovered an ancient city that had been sunk under the sea.
	And in that, he did find writings that do confirm what you're talking about.
	Okay.
	I have the whole book from these people.
	They sent this book to this person, and I have the papers.
	I would love to send them to Art by any means, compressed in Winsip file, and maybe he can send them to you so you can recheck them.
	It's very interesting information about our evolution as humans.
	Well, sir, we have given out an address, and we will give it out again right now, so why don't you go ahead and send it direct?
	I get more mail than I can deal with.
	Uh, you can write to Speaking Wind.
	Can he write the Huntsville, Alabama address?
	Of course he can.
	Okay, Speaking Wind.
	Everybody write this down.
	P.O.
	Box 1-2-6-1-2.
	Huntsville, Alabama.
	Zip code 35815.
	I'll give it one more time.
	Speaking Wind.
	P.O.
	Box 1-2-6-1-2.
	Huntsville, Alabama.
	Zip code 35815.
	Um, so, onward we go.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Morning, Orrin.
	Good morning, uh, Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Uh, this is Mike from Philadelphia.
	Yes, sir.
	Um, Orrin, I just want to say something to you real quick.
	Your show scares me to death.
	Um... My show scares me a lot of times, so... Yes.
	And I went on night work, so I can listen to you every night.
	Okay, um, Speaking Wind.
	Yes.
	I hate to sound like a wimp, but I'm so frightened by all this.
	I have a five-year-old child.
	I feel bad for my kid, because he hasn't had a chance to live yet.
	How do you deal with being so frightened?
	You know what?
	I understand exactly what he's saying.
	I, too, have a son, and while I'm somehow not so frightened for myself, Um, I think about my son as this man does and what, you know, what do you say to that and to these people who have children?
	It's very valid.
	Um, if you noticed within the last five or six years we have taken such quantum leaps and actually looking at a higher perspective than we ever have before in the recorded history that we have in this world.
	We look at life as something that is very precious now.
	Our children's lives are... I don't believe it's instinctive.
	I believe it's from the heart.
	We hold them in a higher place than we hold our own.
	Of course.
	It's difficult.
	It's very difficult.
	But then, when we get out of bed in the morning, we don't know if we're going to be able to come back to that same bed at night for us or our children.
	That's right.
	We don't know if There's going to be some idiot that pushes a button and releases a nuclear bomb or we don't know if a meteor is going to fall and hit our car and kill us or our family or a neighbor.
	We don't know when we might get bit by a tick or a mosquito carrying malaria.
	This is really a very good point.
	So in other words, while all of this may lay ahead for us as a species.
	Yes.
	What you're saying really boils down to take it one day at a time, brother, and live your life.
	Whatever you've got left.
	Stay in the present.
	Live and love with your heart.
	And make sure, yes, that you fully love your children for every available second of your life.
	And that way, you will have not missed anything.
	That's good advice.
	East of the Rockies, you're on air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Speaking Wind.
	Good morning, Bucket Nose.
	Good morning.
	I've often wondered about animals in heaven, and I've also wondered if Bucket Nose was going to accept the invitation from Curtis Lewa.
	Um, Bucket Nose did accept the invitation from Curtis Lee, who said he was coming out here, and he never showed up.
	Mr. Bell, he was there.
	No, he wasn't.
	He was with Roadkill Brody.
	No, he was not here.
	And they kept saying that you're in Bali.
	He was not here.
	But are you in Bali, Mr. Bell?
	No, no, no.
	You want to know where I am?
	You wanna know where I am?
	Go to my website.
	I put a picture of my home up there.
	You can see where I am.
	So you don't have to wonder anymore.
	So you tell your friend, uh, Slizwa, that he can go to my website and he can see where I live.
	But as far as his being here, he was never anywhere near here.
	I sat and watched.
	Western Rockies, you're on the air with Speaking Wayne.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art.
	I'm calling from Reading, California.
	Yes, ma'am.
	Um, I'm not sure.
	Have you heard about earthquakes lately?
	Yes, I have.
	You are having a series of earthquakes there.
	Oh, it's kind of scary a little bit.
	Anyway, um, for your guest, Speaking Wind, um, that's a beautiful name, by the way.
	Well, thank you.
	Um, I just want to quickly share with you, and maybe you can help me out, um, one of my spiritual experiences I had a year or two ago, um, I guess you can call it an out-of-body, um, but I spiritually traveled up to space in a silent kind of space.
	Yes.
	And off in the distance I saw this gigantic size, um, it looked like a round circle.
	So the closer I got to it, um, I noticed that there was at least a million tiny, um, white beams of light.
	And they were moving in like a, um, clockwise direction.
	Yes.
	And the sound that came from this was like a very intense low energy sound.
	We're way low on time.
	So anyway in the middle of it was black and I had a choice to go through it or not and I chose to go through it.
	Good for you.
	And once I was inside there I was like in a theater, like a movie theater.
	Yes.
	And there were other people there besides myself and there was a gentleman there who was like the instructor and what was shown to us was very important.
	All right, listen, um, I'm gonna hold you over, young lady, all right?
	Because we've gotta take a break here.
	Thank you.
	Speaking of when, you're good for another hour?
	Sure am, Art.
	Good your name, all right?
	Stay right there.
	We'll break here at the top of the hour and in some markets we will continue.
	By the way, again reminding radio stations and listeners we now pre-feed Coast to Coast AM three hours earlier beginning at 7 o'clock p.m.
	Pacific Time.
	You might let your radio station know about that.
	Well, I've been in all kinds of shit and red To realize just what I have found
	I have been only half of what I am Back now to Speaking Wind and the young lady in Redding
	where the ground is shaking and the Redding ripple is moving a bit.
	Welcome back.
	Please continue.
	Thank you very much.
	Speaking Wind, I'll try to wrap this up here.
	It's okay.
	My dilemma is basically in this what I call a theater, the instructor and gentleman, the other gentleman there, it was almost like I I knew him.
	I felt very comfortable there.
	It was even as far as if we wanted to write these things down, what we were shown.
	But my whole dilemma is, is that I was safe enough to where I knew I would come back, but after coming back, I have no clue what I was shown or told.
	And I don't understand that.
	You will.
	It's very easy to do that.
	First of all, the spirals that you saw, going clockwise, that we're making alohams, those are called time doors, or time portals.
	The next time you're close to one, if they're going forward, they will unlock a picture for you of what is about to happen in your life.
	If they're going counterclockwise, there's a message coming to you from the past in a vision like this.
	Even though there were just so many of them?
	Yes, all you have to do is hold your hand out and one will come to you.
	Now, when you were in the theater, once, incidentally, once you touch one of them, then besides the gentleman who you do know, and you know very well, I might add, once you touch one of those, you will be given an opportunity of standing in the theater and speaking yourself.
	Now, in order to remember, In order to remember each night before you go to bed, say three times to yourself, I wish to remember, I wish to be healed.
	And then in the morning when you wake up, the first thing you do is stretch from your toes to your little fingers and just say thank you.
	For no reason, just say thank you.
	And the first three minutes after you get out of bed, walk in this way.
	Little toe, big toe, heal.
	Set the little toe on the floor first, the big toe, then the heel.
	Doesn't matter what you're walking on, or if you have slippers on, or socks, or just your bare feet.
	But for those first three minutes and throughout the day, you'll begin to remember bits and pieces until it all comes together.
	Okay.
	And, um, can I just ask you something?
	Um, I believe that this information was for me to help others.
	It's all to help others.
	Okay.
	And I'm not afraid of it.
	Don't be.
	We must glean how it can assist us or help ourselves.
	Right.
	Then we understand it.
	And I'm not afraid of it.
	Don't be.
	I was never afraid to enter into the blackness of the center of this either.
	And I know it was freedom of choice.
	The blackness is nothing more than your willingness to think about everything you're about to be shown.
	It's symbolic.
	Everything you're about to be shown.
	And glean what is for you and what is not for you.
	This is very symbolic of the freedom of choice, which is our birthright.
	Right.
	Thank you so much.
	But nothing is there to frighten you.
	Right.
	Nothing at all.
	It is simply just another expression of love.
	Yeah, and I felt, when I was in there, I felt like I lived there before.
	You have.
	Uh-huh.
	Actually, you've seen a picture, a glimpse of what home basically looks like.
	There you are.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	And take care.
	Uh, first time caller on the line, you're on the air with Speaking Wynne.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Um, Speaking Wynne and Art, this is like a real pleasure.
	I'm Wynne from Homer, Alaska.
	Homer, Alaska.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And, um, when you were talking about the permafrost... Yes.
	Um, I went out snowshoeing, um, the other day, and I walked by this little runoff.
	It's like a tiny, tiny little creek.
	And I was really shocked to see that it was still running.
	Because it's been, you know, 20 degree, 15 degree weather.
	And the thing is, is that the top is frozen, but the water underneath is running, and I've never seen that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, there's no question about it.
	The permafrost is, in fact, melting.
	Yeah.
	It's melting.
	Yeah.
	And, um, the harp thing, of course, has been, um, definitely a concern of mine.
	And I am really amazed at the amount of apathy up here.
	And the people that just don't know.
	And, um, I know that, um, Ed Bigot ran for governor this, this last, um, time.
	Uh, he was a write-in, but, um, well, I sure voted for him because I just, this, this state is just so, I don't know, you know, they're just, I don't know, just pro-development all the way.
	Um, I guess and then about your anger, you know, I think that's
	one of the it's it's one of the masks of fear And and it's okay to feel it and let it go
	but um, but you're playing into exactly what that person wants you to do
	You know, oh, i'm sure that's right. That's true. It's like given, you know, it's like giving away your power by
	You know by focusing on the anger Mm-hmm.
	So, you know, the sooner you can wipe that out, I think the sooner, you know.
	No, I know that you're right intellectually.
	I know that you're both right.
	Yeah.
	And I wish I could say that I really felt that, but I'm telling you the truth.
	If I could choke that sucker to death, he'd be gone.
	I have felt that way too, but that's how I'm learning to deal with my anger, you know.
	Just kind of turn it around and, you know, And, um, speaking of wind, I have, you know, I have been doing, um, a lot of studies, and, um, one of the things is that I understand that the Hopis, you know, they have their, they call them summer homes, you know, with electricity and everything, and then they have their Kiva, that they have just to go to for the end of the day, to go in, and they close their windows and just
	Sit and pray basically to wait out those three days or whatever to make that shift.
	Do you know anything about that?
	Am I supposed to have any kind of synthetic like nails or any kind of synthetic material in these buildings, these structures?
	Because in the next dimension those things are just thought forms and they're just going to kind of dematerialize.
	I think one of the misconceptions that the Spaniards had about the people on the lands of the Mesa was they misunderstood because so much is lost in translation.
	They believed the Native Americans at that time thought that when this life was over, that was it.
	They just went under the earth, which is not the case.
	But in the same regard, without having nails, without having anything manufactured, It's basically a way, and I don't know specifics about this,
	just very general, the Hopi would be the ones to actually tell you about what
	all of this means.
	you you
	And when you come out of that, you become a new thought, a new creation, a new name, or whatever.
	But that's about all I know.
	Uh-huh.
	And you know, I had this really interesting dream about six weeks ago.
	And it seemed so real.
	It was an hourglass in the sky.
	The stars had made an hourglass.
	And then there was a rip inside this hourglass.
	And there was this beautiful, beautiful liquid golden Almost with watery light coming from this rip in the sky.
	And there were a lot of heads around me.
	There were a lot of people and we're all just staring up at this thing.
	And, you know, I kind of saw it as a window into another dimension.
	It is.
	Occasionally I have these dreams and this is one of those dreams where it's going to happen.
	You know?
	Yes.
	That's a dream.
	It is not a dimension beyond sight and sound is in the twilight zone, but you're actually looking at apparently you've been doing a lot of Internalizing and thought processes about the reality of time the concept of time and the riff is is really your ability to break beyond the time barrier and realize that It's all in the present.
	If we just let go of the blinders that we have.
	And yes, there are many people working this issue right now.
	Working a lot of prayer, a lot of meditation, a lot of speaking, to remind people that time is as fixed as a proof in science.
	You know, and think about a proof in science.
	500 years ago, it was scientific fact that the Earth was flat.
	And everything revolved around the earth, the sun, the solar system and whatnot.
	It's amazing how scientific fact changes with time.
	Isn't it?
	But what I believe you're looking at is your ability to conceptualize beyond the boundaries that we were told exist, which don't.
	They really don't.
	You can go back to the past just as easily and change entire events in your life.
	As easily as you can talking to someone on the street today.
	It all exists multidimensionally.
	It's one of the reasons that I do what I do on this program.
	You just mentioned it.
	You said, what's today true in science tomorrow is suddenly untrue.
	Yeah.
	And that's exactly right.
	And these people with their noses in the air and their PhDs held high.
	Yes.
	A lot of times they're just flat Wrong!
	They're just wrong!
	And so, I'm not going to be afraid to explore all of these other areas, because they can be as wrong as you can, or I can, or anybody else can be, and science does not seem to be a fixed thing.
	Only today's proclamation.
	Precisely.
	It's like someone asking you to paint the house art, and you just paint a small little spot on it.
	And to you, if that's all you can see, then you have painted the house.
	Yeah, that's it, exactly.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	I'd like to run this theory behind you on this patience and anger thing.
	I don't equate patience with inactivity, but in our anger, I think we're blocked From the true source and the true action that we should take at that moment.
	And the thing with Art saying, yeah, I'd like to strangle that guy's neck or maybe someone wants to punch someone in the nose.
	That may be true, but if we would just have this moment, this space between us, if we wouldn't, what I'm saying, if we wouldn't just react right away, if we just had this little buffer zone, Maybe it is a right act to do to stop someone forcibly or not.
	Does this make any sense to you?
	Of course.
	What you're saying is a very, very solid truth in the sense that we each must find our own way.
	Only we know what we need to do.
	No one can tell us.
	If we listen to someone else who tells us what to do, then we're following life through their experiences and not our own.
	And regardless of what we do, it'll always be the wrong thing.
	So, yes, we have to follow our hearts.
	Right, because, you know, sometimes I understand Art saying, you know, I just want to knock someone in the nose.
	And I, you know, obviously we have all had that feeling, but sometimes that's not the right action.
	But then again, sometimes it is.
	You know, their force is needed.
	Yeah, as long as we embrace the situation, and look at it, and accept it as being real, And then we can find our own way through the muddle in the mire.
	Thank you.
	You've answered my... And let me ask you just one more question.
	You say you've spoken to aliens or whatever.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Have you seen anything resembling being dressed in sort of black, almost like a Catholic priest's outfit?
	Boy, have I. Could you... I've been really...
	This has been on my mind.
	Could you explain who those might be?
	Or what your impression of them was?
	I don't know who they were because I didn't speak to them, but I did see them.
	My impression was... Please give it to me.
	Like somebody that has really missed the boat on humanity and has a big rock in her hand.
	You know, we regard aliens as somebody who can misuse us as human beings.
	But on the other hand, we think nothing of a scientist experimenting on a lab rat, or on a cat, or on another animal or a plant.
	And chances are, if and when we ever do reach another planet and Heaven help the life form.
	If it's perceptibly lower than we are, we'll be just as guilty as doing that.
	But there are those that come with an understanding and a love that is beyond words to help.
	And there are those who come with a lot of knowing, but not understanding.
	And they become the scientists and we become the lab rats.
	So, use discretion.
	When you see anything like that, chances are, If they intend to harm you or manipulate you in any way, you will feel a sudden heaviness in the air around you, like it's almost difficult for you to move.
	Yes.
	And if you can just get away, it's probably better.
	All right.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Hello there.
	Good morning, Art.
	Good morning, sir.
	Where are you?
	I am in Pennsylvania traveling down these highways this morning.
	Oh, you're on the road, okay.
	Oh, I'm on the road.
	I have a couple things.
	First of all, I could tell you thank you for touching my heart this morning, you and speaking with.
	Well, thank you.
	Over the years, I've learned one thing to help deal with anger or rage, Art.
	Yes.
	As you say that you have.
	Yes.
	First off, you have to learn to love yourself.
	As this gentleman said earlier, If you get up in the morning, you look in the mirror and you tell yourself that you love yourself, that's a good way to deal with it.
	Because I've learned that loving myself, the true faults and the true goodness, I'm able to deal with things in a more positive manner.
	It's like a PMA, positive mental attitude.
	You can deal with everybody else's negativity as long as you have a positive force yourself.
	And that it seems that there's so much of the anger in the world as you have, as we have.
	It is good to be angry, but then get over it.
	Because if you love yourself... Well, I do.
	Listen, sir.
	I do have a live-and-let-live attitude.
	I really do.
	Politically, I'm a libertarian.
	I think what people do is their own business.
	But when somebody comes and steps in front of me and puts their fist in my nose, I put it back, and I don't know how to stop that feeling.
	I don't turn the other cheek.
	I know that's what you're supposed to do, but I don't do that.
	I'm a very, very, very vengeful person.
	Listen... I don't think turning the cheek is the answer either, but what you want to do is save yourself, and in saving yourself, you love yourself.
	No, intellectually, believe me, I do understand what you're saying.
	Can you hold on?
	Sure.
	Alright, stand by.
	We'll try and keep you on the line during this break.
	This is interesting.
	Someone writes to me, Hey Art, I've got a cold too, and I was so desperate that I tried your guest's suggestion.
	The salt water, wash, the menthol, behind the ears trick.
	I felt silly as hell and I was glad my wife was asleep, but it worked.
	Almost immediately, my head cleared up.
	Be sure and consult your shaman before trying this.
	Signed, Bill.
	I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AF.
	All right.
	This is kind of interesting, and I'm going to take this just before we go back to speaking wind.
	I've been getting a lot of A lot of, uh, email and faxes about, have you seen that thing in the sky tonight?
	And now I've got a caller saying that, uh, it's what you said, have you seen that thing in the sky, right caller?
	Um, what are you talking about anyway?
	Alright, um, I walked home from work tonight, uh, two o'clock.
	Whoa, wait a minute, where are you?
	Uh, Logan, Utah.
	Logan, Utah, okay, and what are you seeing?
	Um, it looks, um, uh, Like a comet tail.
	Extending from the horizon almost to a vertical straight up from where we are.
	Really?
	North by northeast.
	Is it there now?
	It was ten minutes ago.
	Is it now?
	I don't know.
	I'm in the basement right now.
	In other words, when you came in the house to go call, it was still there?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Earlier it had a head on it.
	That was much brighter than the tail of the rest of the whatever it is.
	Gotcha.
	In addition to that there were look like shooting stars coming off It says you're looking up to it.
	Alright, I'll tell you what, now that you've said that, a gazillion people will go outside and look, so if there's something to it, you have given us good warning.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Take care, and we'll see if anything comes of that.
	Speaking of wind, welcome back.
	Thank you, Art.
	Do you have any comments while we're at it on the whole ufology business and all these things, like that man talked about, that are being seen in our skies?
	Oh, Art, they've been seeing this from time beginning.
	As a matter of fact, our seed was brought to this planet from the last one.
	And toward the ending of the fourth world, they all come back.
	They all come back.
	And we remember them.
	And they remember us.
	Huh.
	You'll be seeing more and more traces of this happening.
	But it's not to frighten you.
	They don't come for that reason.
	They come as observers to see how we'll fare.
	They will also walk with us too.
	Um...
	I can just tell you this, from move-on directors in Georgia...
	To Peter Davenport, who runs the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, to all the other people I talked to, they're all saying the same thing.
	These sightings are all drastically, suddenly on the increase.
	Oh, of course.
	No surprise for you, I guess, huh?
	No, no.
	As a matter of fact, you know, Art, more people, more people encounter, and there only are relations.
	That's all they are.
	And when you look at it in that regard, then it's like meeting your brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin, grandparents, whatever.
	There's a commonality.
	But if you remember, if you ever come across some of the old chronicles in history, whenever change came about that changed the scientific proven fact of the day, it was embraced with the same fear concept.
	Oh no, the world cannot be round, this is ridiculous, because I can see that it's flat right over the horizon.
	You are definitely a spawn of Satan.
	I know.
	If you believe the Earth revolves around the Sun, how silly that is.
	We are the center, or I am the center of the universe.
	Change is inevitable, and as long as we're willing to embrace it for that, then it's fine.
	But so many times we look at change as something that we cannot explain, and all of a sudden it becomes the enemy, and we end up We don't hurt the change.
	We don't alter the change.
	We don't stop the change.
	What we do hurt is ourselves.
	We usually bang ourselves on the knees, scrape ourselves on the hand, or whatever.
	But the inevitable is going to happen.
	It's always happened, regardless of how much we went kicking and screaming down the hallowed halls of misperceived history.
	Exactly right.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Speaking Wind and Those buckets are with you.
	Where are you, please?
	I'm in Santa Rosa.
	Santa Rosa, okay.
	Extinguish your radio as a first item, if you would please.
	I would like to tell you about an experience that I had in 1972.
	I was lying across my bed when all of a sudden I felt this tremendous magnetic pull.
	It was so Traumatic that it pulled me from my physical body.
	And then I seemed to be traveling.
	Instead, I went down into the earth.
	Straight down into the earth at tremendous speed.
	And there seemed to be someone with me.
	And I felt a hand in my back.
	And he kept consoling me and telling me there was nothing to be afraid of.
	Soon we were at the center of the earth.
	And it was nothing but a hollowness of a globe.
	And as far as I could see, there was hollowness.
	I was led out into the center of this globe in a light that was shining down.
	We went down through this light.
	And then we came out on the side of a mountain somewhere in Mexico or Central America because of the types of homes and villages that we seemed to pass over at a tremendous rate of speed.
	We finally came to this lake and I looked down and on the lake were eight UFOs and they were Besides every two UFOs, there seemed to be a small building like, um, either making repairs or using it to draw water from this lake.
	And then I heard a woman's voice.
	She said, June, can you hear me?
	And I turned around and I saw this woman, all in white, floating there in the air.
	And she said, Until you escape from the world of godliness, will you discover the real truth?
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't know about all of that.
	Until you escape from the world of godliness, she said she was dragged down.
	Bad direction to start with.
	And until you escape from the world of godliness, speaking when, comments?
	I know that a lot of times The people that I've encountered in life have had similar experiences.
	And what that does is, I'll just caveat it real quickly, it takes one into their own selves, into within themselves, and shows them, is there anything that I have, that I have understood in life, basically?
	And they're always given a clue on how to fill up the void within themselves.
	And it usually occurs when there has been a loss or there is a worry about someone very close.
	These voices that they hear are very important, but they're very important to them, and it shows them a direction to go.
	But they are valid.
	They are valid.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Hi there.
	We're in Nashville, Tennessee, listening on WWTN.
	The 100,000-watt monster.
	Yes, sir.
	That's me.
	I would like to direct this question to Speaking Wind.
	From a Native American standpoint, I was amazed, simply amazed, to find out that he was involved with a relative named two bears as this was a name
	that was given me in a sweat and Never had I heard it before I would like to hear his
	comments on any Connection spiritually or perhaps a meaning and I'll sit
	back and listen for the answer All right. Okay, the name to bear usually comes to those
	who are caught in a dilemma of some kind they first of all the home of their in the West is where
	one goes to take in all the events that have come into their life and sort through them
	Like the bear goes into hibernation, we go into hibernation.
	Solitude.
	We look at the things that have been affecting us.
	Is that for us and is that not for us?
	It's the ability of being able to let go of the things that are not for us and then to better understand the things that are.
	Uh, the tube there is the ability that one has to walk with one foot on the spiritual side of life and one foot on the physical side and to maintain the balance.
	Remarkable.
	All right.
	, let's go here.
	You're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Speaking wind and buckets below the nose with you.
	Good morning.
	Hi.
	Where are you?
	I'm Galana.
	I'm in Boston.
	Boston.
	All right.
	And I don't get you anymore, so I'm catching you out of Fort Wayne or Philadelphia or something.
	Yep.
	One of the long-distance boomers.
	I just gotta tell you, it was two days ago, it was 76 degrees here.
	I heard that.
	And it is 32 degrees now.
	Is it?
	Yes.
	But, Speaking Wind?
	Yes?
	Will you marry me?
	Oh, thank you.
	That is so sweet.
	Well, you know.
	Your winter is not going to be that cold.
	The coldest part of the winter will be on the west coast in the southern section.
	Okay.
	That will be the real hard and also the southwest.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Alright.
	You're welcome.
	Take care.
	Well, that's the first proposal.
	I think I've heard across these airwaves on my show.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Hello.
	Hi, Speaking Wind.
	And Bucket Nose.
	Furry mama from San Diego.
	Yes.
	It is such a holy night tonight.
	And you did it again, Art.
	You are getting so close to the real thing.
	I mean, you're actually it.
	But in the meantime, I just wanted to get through to say hi to both of you.
	And it's a beautiful night and it's full of love in the air.
	And thanks for putting it there.
	Well, you're welcome.
	Thank you.
	I hope we did put some there.
	Heavens knows it can use it.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Hi.
	Hi, Bill.
	This is Dewey from Dallas.
	Dewey from Dallas.
	Yes, sir.
	Tell me things I'd like to say.
	One question.
	Sure.
	Picking one.
	What say you of Yeshua Mashiach?
	I can barely hear you.
	What say you of Yeshua Mashiach?
	Yahshua.
	Mashiach.
	I don't know.
	Lord help you.
	Okay.
	Alright, well that's a Bible thump for you there.
	I couldn't hardly make it out.
	Lord help us all.
	Wild Card Line, you're on here with Speaking Wind.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	This is Bart in Arvada, Colorado.
	Yes, sir.
	I had a question.
	I have a belief that I'm from a very contrary tribe.
	I'm learning about that now.
	My second son is contrary in his learning.
	My first son is the mad scientist.
	I'm not sure what you mean by contrary in his learning.
	What do you mean?
	There were backward tribes who actually learned everything backwards, I guess is my simple way of putting that.
	I had always heard my great-grandfather rather than my grandfather.
	My teachings are learnings.
	And I learn things, usually, backwards.
	I was thinking about, in a sense, with arts with nose buckets cold, you know, part of that is the anger and the other part is that if the harp or harp changed the emotions of the people, you know, recently.
	Then it would make sense he's angry.
	I don't know.
	I know I come from a backwards way most of the time.
	Well, you said that you learn things backwards all the way.
	I'm not exactly sure how to respond to that.
	Do you know what he's talking about?
	Yes, you're referring to a contrary.
	Yeah.
	And don't think anything of it.
	Contraries are very important because they allow us to listen and see the mirror in our life in them.
	Living and being close to them is always difficult from a standpoint of the contrariness.
	They tend to make fun of things in very abstract ways, but when it's seen, when it's gleaned through correctly, they make a lot of sense.
	So don't give up on yourself.
	Okay.
	I mean, this is, this is, this is a good thing.
	All right.
	First time caller line.
	You're on the air with Speaking Wind.
	Not a lot of time.
	Left to low.
	Yes.
	My name is Diana.
	I'm calling... Oh, Diana, I can barely hear you.
	Uh, yell at us.
	Okay.
	I'm calling from Tacoma, Washington.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I have a question.
	First of all, I just recently started listening to your program, and I would like to know if you could briefly, uh, explain HAARP.
	And then for Speaking Wind, I have a question He, um, mentioned his manuscript and the address, but there was not a price mentioned on that?
	Good point.
	Oh, there was supposed to be.
	Uh, how much is it?
	Uh, the manuscripts are $75.
	Okay.
	Each, or?
	Each.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	For each one.
	Yes.
	When the books come out, they, uh, the manuscripts will stop, and the books, I assure you, will not be $75.
	They'll be about $18.50.
	Okay.
	Um, also, about the anger topic that you were talking about?
	Yes.
	Okay, um, when your caller Kathy called?
	Yes.
	Okay, it was kind of irritating the fact that I have been on the phone for about three hours trying to call you, and here she's been talking to you several times, and yet she's using that first-time caller line.
	You know what?
	Uh, no, I think, was she on the first time Call Her Live?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	Uh, then that, then I screwed up.
	I should've, should've let her off.
	And I thought, well, this is, this is kind of right up there with, uh, traffic offenders on the freeway that don't read the signs.
	No, you're right.
	I should've blown her up, but I, I didn't, somehow, I'm not all, I'm not all there tonight, so you'll have to forgive me.
	Uh, Kathy knows better.
	Yeah.
	Um, if I may, for Speaking Wind, um, About the dreams, since you seem to be really in tune to those.
	Uh-huh.
	Um, I had a dream once where it was kinda almost like real, it was where I was living.
	And I went out into the yard, and the sky turned crimson red, but it only went like halfway, there was an actual dividing line, and then the sky faded back.
	Would that be any kind of a, have any kind of meaning to you?
	Or definition as far as where we were at, In the future sense?
	I do believe so.
	During the time that you were having that dream, chances are very high that you were caught in a dichotomy.
	One side of you, on whatever issues you were working with at the time, was saying, no, be subtle in your life.
	Be the quiet one.
	And the other side was, I need to attract attention.
	I need to do something that will get me noticed.
	And because of the familiarity of the house.
	And what did you say was half?
	I was very young.
	I was, you know, like 15 at the time.
	But it kind of bothered me because I felt almost like it was a warning that our time was like half over with.
	Half over with?
	You were saying half the sky is red, correct?
	Right.
	It came from the horizon, went up.
	There's like a halfway line right across the top of the sky.
	Okay, half of the sky was red and the other half of the sky?
	It was blue.
	And then it faded back to all blue.
	Okay, one of the things that the dream was sharing with you is to keep remembering, keep this in your conscious, cognitive mind, that as you walk through life, and you're very fortunate to have received this at such a young age, that life is split in two parts.
	The red is symbolic of the physical part, because we have red blood going through our veins, and the blue is symbolic of the spiritual part.
	So keep the two in balance.
	Apparently, Uh, you have the ability of being very intuitive and are able to glean through situations rather easily.
	And you're also able to tune into people's thoughts and to look behind their words in relationship to the meaning that they have versus the words that they speak to you.
	And it was just a reminder to keep your balance, keep your spiritual balance with your physical balance, because it'd be really easy to go overboard on either side.
	All right.
	Speaking of when and nose buckets are out of time, show seems to be ending.
	We're going to have to go.
	It has been such a pleasure to have you on here tonight.
	Thank you for doing so much of the work.
	And we will certainly have you back again, my friend.
	Thank you, Art.
	And I'll tell you one thing.
	I hold you in a very high place even before I talk to you.
	Thank you very much, and get some sleep.
	Thank you, Art.
	And you will get... Can I get a tape of the show?
	Of course you can.
	I'll arrange it.
	Good night, my friend.
	Good night, Art.

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