Patrick Quirk, raised by Pueblo shamans Grandfather Two Bears and White Eagle, shares suppressed teachings of Earth’s cyclical "worlds"—each lasting ~10,000 years—culminating in a 2012 apocalypse tied to planetary alignments like HAARP’s June 1998 activation, which he claims disrupted magnetic fields, causing mass depression, bacterial mutations (1996), and environmental chaos, including rising coastlines and erratic animal behavior. Callers describe electromagnetic pulses, UFO sightings, and near-death visions as spiritual warnings, while Quirk links anger to illusionary judgments, urging heart-based healing over confrontation. His work, now adapted for Hollywood, hinges on humanity’s shift toward self-love to alter Earth’s fate—suggesting cosmic events reflect our collective consciousness. [Automatically generated summary]
Speaking Wind, a Native American author, lecturer, and publisher, was raised by Grandfather Two Bears and White Eagle of the Pueblo people.
He knew them as spirit callers, but in today's terms we would call them shaman.
He and his brothers, Chiwe and Nahi, were raised in the mountains of northern New Mexico by grandfather and two bears for almost 20 years in their early life.
This is where they were introduced to the ways of the spirit.
However, these teachings were to be put asleep for a time and were not to be remembered until the time was right.
But before the time was right, grandfather, two bears, and white eagle left with their bodies.
And later, Chiwe and Nahe ended their journey with the Earth Mother as well.
That left Speaking Wind alone to sort out and process what he had been given to share.
When Speaking Wind, Chiwe and Nahei, were very young, they were placed in a private boarding school for several years.
This became the first of their experience from having the control of others attempt to bury their spiritual beliefs.
During their boarding school experience, they were not allowed to speak their people's language or practice their spirituality, and they were placed upon them many scars of abuse for breaking these rules.
However, they did what I did and asked too many questions from the teachings of Grandfather Two Bears and White Eagle.
Questions the teachers could not answer.
So, they were labeled as spawns of Satan.
I'm familiar with such a label.
And they were forced to leave so they would not influence the children who were not following the devil's evil ways.
When speaking when Nahe and Chiwe entered the public school system, they could barely read or write.
So not only the teachers, but the students called them dumb half-breeds.
That obviously left a mark on them, gave them the determination to pursue their academic goals.
Chiwe completed his Ph.D. and worked as one of the head archaeologists in the Yucatan Peninsula, uncovering many ancient writings and civilizations that related to ancient prophecies.
He pursued a career in law enforcement, then went on to become sheriff in a small town in New Mexico.
Speaking Wind attained two undergraduate degrees, two graduate degrees, and completed one half of his Ph.D. He taught in the School of Business at the University of Phoenix, then worked as a consultant in Asia and almost 16 years in Europe, and he is here tonight.
Anyway, look, I would like to talk with you about what you know of earth changes.
I can tell you what I know.
I wrote a book called The Quickening.
And in that book, I laid out a very careful chain of evidence that in every single area of human endeavor, from politics to social behavior to the environment to our economy to relationships between nations and scientific advances,
things were beginning to speed up at a faster and faster, even exponential rate, and that we're headed toward something.
But I'm not a prophet.
i'm not uh...
a native american i'm not to privy to any of All I know is we're moving towards some sort of event, some sort of change.
And particularly the environment you mean tonight, for example, I've got a story from the Electronic Telegraph that says the permafrost in Alaska is melting.
Big pieces of the Antarctic are falling off.
Birds are where they shouldn't be.
Fish now are in waters where they should not be.
Things are changing very rapidly.
Diseases are in our ocean.
Our crabs and fish with sores that are beginning to make people sick.
Something is profoundly wrong.
And that's what I know to be true.
Yes.
So the question is, I guess, what do you know about what's happening and what is going to happen?
The material I'll be speaking out of is from the latest manuscript I just finished was Keepers of the Beast.
But since June of 1998, everyone began feeling waves of depression and anxiety, all for no apparent reason.
Other than the fulfillment of ancient prophecy, which states, we are now standing at the end of time for life was we know it.
While this is true, it is not As final as many would have you believe.
Neither the earth or life on it is going to end, but it's going to change.
And it will change of such tremendous proportions, it's going to seem as if we're about to become extinct.
The world basically has been separated into four distinct time periods, each lasting approximately 10,000 years, and we've called them the four worlds.
Before the first one began, life on this earth was a virtual Garden of Eden.
There was no pain, no sorrow, no want or desire, but there came a catastrophe that ended that and forced us out of the garden.
That resulted in the four worlds, each of which held specific lessons for us to learn.
However, a promise was made, which said in the end, we will all return to the garden and live in peace for all time, and now that time is nearing.
Well, the Christians, of course, would suggest that it was a great-looking young lady with an apple in her hand saying, here, take a bite, and he did, and that was it, and we're out and everybody out of the pool.
The thing that took away this garden was a runaway planet that entered the solar system, believing that the night was the lady of the night, the lady that would take care of us and lay us down to sleep.
The apple in her hand didn't come from an apple tree, perhaps.
Each of the four worlds had lessons that we were to learn from.
And a promise was made, which said that in the end, we'll all return to the garden and live in peace for all time.
But this is close to the ending of the fourth world.
But there was a condition put on all of us.
One that would have to be met before we would be allowed to enter the Garden of Life.
We were told there would come a prolonged period of time among the last generation to live in the fourth world, which is us, where all illusion and the lie we have been told was real must be released.
In the beginning, this would be voluntary, but as we neared the final doorway, the closing of the fourth world, our choices would be less and less.
And all things that did not hold truth for us, if not voluntarily released, would be stripped away, for none of it would be allowed into the fifth world, the Eden we've all longed for, basically.
But for many of us, like, the lie and the illusion is all we've ever known.
And all of the stripping away, for example, the illusion, the lie, the things that follow the drum or follow the tune of the person playing the flute.
Synchronicity has always played an important role in world events.
But we, like many other people, have listened to those events through those that had a louder voice than ours.
And they could gain our attention, grab our ear, because they not only spoke louder, but they spoke with more either contempt or were able to instill fear into us by doing something wrong.
And there is no wrong.
There only is.
But as long as we listen to others, then we continue with the illusion in believing that there is a right and a wrong way this world has to be run.
And we busy ourselves attempting to change everything and everyone that comes into our way and give no one freedom.
For example, Art, since June of this year, there were events that took place on the planet that have caused severe depression for no apparent reason to hit people in waves.
Anxiety, doubt, fear, and basically a short-term memory loss.
All of this there's a reason for.
And all of it kind of ties in to the prophecies that I have heard that talk about what lies ahead for us.
For example, the fifth world, the world of peace and light, that's basically our return to the garden.
That is the garden that used to be on Earth a long time ago.
And when Venus slipped into our solar system, it was a runaway planet.
It hit a planet, knocking it into the asteroid belt today.
It came so close to Mars that it literally tore out its atmosphere into space.
And then it ran close enough to the Earth to strip away everything that was on the face of the planet.
And what happened there, Art, is when the people who took heed of the warning that was given that the runaway planet was in a near-collision course with Earth, when it hit the planet that busted into the asteroid belt, it slowed down enough to be pulled into the sun's gravity.
And then it sucked out Mars' life, and then it came through and sucked out everything that was on the surface of this planet, and then remained in a stationary orbit today.
That planet, even its rotation, is opposite from any other planet in the solar system.
It's counterclockwise, and that's Venus.
And when the people came out from underground, from their safe places, with what little life and plants and other living things they could take in with them, and saw what happened to the Earth, they were devastated.
And they looked up into the night sky and saw that planet just looking back at them.
And they called that the planet that stole our love, which means the planet of love, Ergo Venus.
That catastrophe seems to have made its imprint on the DNA of every living thing.
And because of that, there has been throughout history a memory that, yes, we had a beautiful Garden of Eden, we had a place that there was no pain, sorrow, illusion, liar, whatever.
And there was something that happened, something terrible that happened that caused it to go away.
And almost like thinking in just the opposite, people have been thinking throughout history that, okay, if I bring the world to the brink of extinction, or if I bring disaster so close that I can mirror or mimic at least a portion of that catastrophe, perhaps we'll be shown the way back to the garden.
And God or Creator, whatever name you want to use, it doesn't matter, will come in and step in at the last minute.
I used to tell television crews who would come out here, please don't photograph my house.
Please, oh, please don't do that.
You know, obviously I don't want a lot of people coming out here.
It's a private residence, not a tourist location.
But finally, it was on NBC.
It was on just about every network you can imagine.
And my house has been splashed across every newspaper and every establishment.
And I went out and took a photograph myself of my own house and put it up on my website.
It's up there now at www.artbell.com.
Finally, I threw up my hands and I said, that's it.
I might as well post it myself.
What the hell?
And so it's up there.
And I got an email from somebody today and said, hey Art, I've got a much better picture of your house than you do.
So I guess they're going to send it to me.
If it's better, I'll post that.
Also, one additional item, and that is when I was in Vancouver filming the episode of Millennium, I had the opportunity, of course, to spend a great deal of time with the director of Millennium, with the star of Millennium, Lance Hendrickson, and Thomas Wright, the director.
Bless his patient heart.
I'm sure that after he worked with me for a time, he would smile and say, you're doing great and go in the back room and probably bat his head up against the wall.
And then Lance Hendrickson, who's the star of Millennium, who's a great guy, really cheered me on.
And I sat there and screwed up my lines.
But there's photographs of all of that up on the website as well.
www.artbell.com.
Just thought I'd let you know that's all up there.
So the fourth and the fifth world, the fifth world being the return to the garden, but somehow I have this distinct feeling that before whoever is to make it to the fifth world makes it, there's going to be an awful lot of changes in the world we have now, and a lot of people are not going to make it.
And what kind of prophecies can you tell us about that lay ahead for us?
I mean, that really is pretty much what everybody wants to know.
And I know there's a lot of Native American prophecy, and we would appear to be in that time now.
I could be wrong about that, but it sure looks like it's here now.
The illusion comes from believing in others rather than yourself.
And the lie tells us we have the right to judge others as good or evil or right or wrong.
And that's basically it.
We're raised with that from the time our feet touch the earth.
And for so many of us, we leave the earth not ever knowing who we are or understanding we're created out of love and that our true nature is to be loving and nurturing, not destructive.
And if you've ever looked from a clinicist's point of view in the psychological arena of human behavior patterns and the ability of expressing oneself, When an individual is very frustrated, they have a very difficult time getting to any of the root causes of their problems.
They tend to acquiesce toward the symptoms instead of actually what is really the root of this thing.
And it's almost like history has shown us that we've been treating symptoms of love in the love we were created with.
Instead of looking for that love and nurturing it within ourselves, we look for it from somebody else.
And when somebody else doesn't meet our expectations, which we don't even know what they are most of the time, then it becomes wrong.
And we just meddle things up.
But as far as the other things that are going to happen, between now and 2012, the polar ice caps are melting right now at an alarming rate.
And soon the coastlines are going to rise by more than 65 feet.
And the rating of volcanoes on the Pacific Ocean are coming back to life.
This is causing Antarctica and the polar caps to melt as well.
And when you look, the preponderance of systemic logic from the scientists today tells us that there are big chunks of ice that are melting off, like the one that was, I believe, the size of Rhode Island.
Now, this bacteria scrape any place that allows it passage into the bloodstream, and then it's correct.
Once it's cut, it takes root and begins destroying red blood cells.
And the bacteria multiply so fast the white blood cells can't keep up with them in a matter of a few days if they're not treated, you know, ultimate death.
But that's just the beginning.
Once this bacteria has been seen in the oceans, it will have already infected the freshwater supply all over the world, and then it will have mutated into another form.
And this new form of bacteria causes deformities among all newborns.
It's also happening among the plants and the humans, too.
Then in September of 1998, the five planets made their appearance, which ushered in the five planets that aligned themselves with the Earth to the Sun.
And they opened up the next big bunch of energy that started coming in, one that set into motion a worldwide purge for all living things.
This is partially responsible for the hostility, the memory loss, the agitation, the depression, but it's necessary in order for one to recognize their freedom of choice.
going on how would you convince people the reason that this all of this is going on has to do with the spiritual side of things that you're laying out for us tonight there was a promise that was made a long time ago and it's a promise that was that was kept all of us above board that eventually we're going to all get back to a better time a better
place a better land and it's in danger of happening now art the last day of the fourth world december twenty second twenty twelve there's something that has come about can stop that from happening it's called the heart project and it is just devastating it became operational in june of this year i'm very very much aware of heart uh...
as a matter of fact there has been some recent news other even some evidence uh...
pretty good evidence i would say that a the recent snow in central arizona was uh...
not natural uh...
we can correlate uh...
harp activity with that uh...
snowstorm that occurred near the Turret Mountain area and closed Route 17, totally unnatural in central Arizona.
And you can look at the harp activity and you can correlate, you can't prove, I suppose, that one caused the other, but you can certainly correlate the activity and the synchronicity of it.
Now, they claim, of course, that HARP is simply something designed to study the ionosphere with regard to communications.
I think the stated goal is to look for underground tunnels and bunkers.
But a lot of people, including Dr. Begich and others, think that it is an attempt at weather control.
And now it is called the High Frequency Act of a World Research Project, HARP.
It's basically, it's more of a ground-based Star Wars weapon.
It's causing people to undergo these waves of depression, art.
And later, if it's not checked, it's going to ultimately cause their demise.
But it has the capability of manipulating the environment in a way that it can change weather patterns, disrupt co-obal communications, disrupt human mental processes, negatively affect health, and impact the upper atmosphere in a way that can't be reversed.
But what would happen if you could get by with that and still remain within the letter of the law, not the spirit, but the letter of the law, and be able to affect human behavior patterns or even affect an approach an army and not even have them know it?
I grant you that if you could, if you, if HARP could be used as a weapon, and Dr. Begich has certainly alluded to that, that it could be, that it could be used to confuse, for example, focus so narrowly that it could be used to confuse the enemy on the battlefield, mentally confuse them.
That, I understand, that our Swede government would pursue like crazy as what they would call non-lethal weapons technology.
Instead of just going up and in one direction, it goes everywhere.
It goes across the horizon as well as into the air.
One of the things that a friend of mine told me about that they had the ability of reading an extract from a written policy for non-lethal weapons, which states the term adversary is used in its broadest sense, including those who are not declared enemies but who are engaged in activities we wish to stop.
And this ties right into local law enforcement as well as the armies and whatnot.
But if you look at what the major premise, what this harp is actually causing, it's interfering with the Earth's magnetic field.
And when we alter that or damage it or do away with it, which is impending on the horizon right now, there's not going to be any more rational human behavior.
There's going to be even less of memory.
And this is resulting in fish losing their way, birds flocking the wrong direction in winter and summer.
Well, in that case, let me tell you, what you're saying is going to resonate with my listeners, just tremendously resonate with them, because you're saying what so many of my other guests have said, that it's too much synchronicity for my poor little cold-infested mind right now.
Obviously, then we're getting this then from a separate source.
Primarily, it was Basically, when I died, Art, I went to, I guess you could call it heaven, the waiting place, whatever you want to call it, home.
And I was in Europe at the time.
We were undergoing a lot of negotiations with the tariff structures and whatnot.
And I was sitting in a chair, and all of a sudden, there was a guy that came knocking at the door, which really picked me off.
I was tired anyway.
But it was a nice, sunny day, so I went to the door and answered it.
And every time he'd ring the doorbell, he would disappear.
Finally, I just got fed up and went out to the back patio, and he was sitting there waiting.
He said, it's time to leave now.
And I thought the guy was really a joker, and I threatened to call the Pulitzer on him and say, if you don't leave now, that's going to be it.
He said, well, just find a comfortable place to sit, and I'm leaving.
But when I went, the only thing I remembered was lifting like floating and going down this long, I could feel ribs, like a dark rib, and went through this long tunnel, went up through a door, of all things, like a trapdoor in the earth.
And that's where I met Grandfather Two Bear, White Eagle, Chiwe, Nahe.
And the great messenger, or the Christ, was there, told me that it was time to start writing and remember the things that I had learned to continue my brother's research, that he discovered things in the Yucatan Peninsula and start writing books.
There's an old home remedy that works really well on these things, Art.
If you take salt water, put it in it.
Salt water, hot wash basin in the bathroom, get the water as hot as you can take it, and take a washcloth, stir up the salt in there, take about one-fourth of a cup of salt for your sink, and wash diligently behind the ears.
If you take your finger right behind the ear lobe against the neck, you'll feel a little hole back there behind, or an indentation back there.
Those are the, really, virtually the only two membranic openings you have to the cerevial area.
If you steam that, and then just take a little bit of menthol on the tip of your finger while it's hot and put it back there, it's absorbed directly into the head, and chances are people won't really smell you with all of the mentholatum on you.
But within about two minutes, it moves to the cerebial area, it clears up the sinal passages, it relieves the pressure, goes down the trachea, stops the sore throat, and goes into your lungs and helps you to cough out any phlegm or congestion that might be in there.
This thing is about 200 pages long, and it's full of about a million things that would, it seems to me, get me thrown straight into jail and I'd never see the light of day again.
So you can say, you see, you can say that's not doom and gloom, but I look at it from a pragmatic point of view, and one in a thousand doesn't seem like great odds to me.
And that was arranged by Robert Ghostwolf, and they said virtually exactly what you're saying.
It took a lot longer to say it because we had to translate as we went.
But it sort of fits in with, I interview prophets, I interview scientists, I interview physicists, I interview people like yourself, and I interview Catholic priests.
I interview gazillions of people who look at what's going on in our world, and from all of these different disciplines and belief systems, you're all saying roughly the same thing.
And I'm going to be honest with you, that scares the hell out of me.
It was terrible as opposed to looking away and just feeling a little ping and then it's done.
I believe what I'm doing is attempting to correlate or contrast and compare between looking at the events that are going to happen with or without our permission through fear or through understanding.
In other words, I believe that if the world moves toward a more spiritual center and gets back in line with the earth, that we will lessen what's going to occur.
But the naysayers, the people who think that the kinds of things that you're saying and others are saying is a bunch of bunk, they say this is just a way to cover yourself.
In other words, then when something doesn't happen, you have an opportunity then to come back and say, you see, it didn't happen because we got the message out and people became more spiritual.
For example, if you want to call it heaven or if you want to call it home, wherever we go after we leave this earth, it isn't a place as much as it is an understanding.
Life here is more of an understanding in order to find that gentleness, that love, that peacefulness that we've always looked for in everybody else except ourselves.
This, for all practicality, and in order to be concise and to be brief, I perceive this life as a part-time job, as opposed to our full-time job, after we leave here.
However, when you attempt to be gainfully employed in your part-time job as an employee of someone else, not much makes sense.
And, you know, the fewer things that make sense, the more prominent fear becomes in your life.
When you use this part-time job as being self-employed, working for yourself, then more things tend to make sense.
And with the more things that make sense, understanding is increased and fear has decreased.
There's a direct proportionate relationship between fear and understanding, just as there is between hurt and fear, fear and love.
So then would you suggest that an understanding of death itself or the process of death, physical death, once that understanding is reached, there would not be fear of the changes that are to come, whether you're one of the one in a thousand or not?
Well, you know, it really doesn't matter if we're one of the one in a thousand or not.
It's a process that each of us are going to have to do at one time or another.
It becomes a matter of understanding that this is not all there is.
There is more.
And while we're here, each of us have our own destiny.
Each of us have our own trademark, so to speak.
We have the freedom of choice to leave some kind of a mark in this world.
You realize that when you find your destiny, you can achieve your destiny in approximately 25 seconds.
And that's when you set emotions into events that will take place and transpire and unfold as your life goes on.
When this life is over, and this seems to become tantamount to the level of understanding people are willing to accept, they don't believe this life will ever be over.
And I've been there too.
I know what it's like.
At one time, a long time ago, I was young, and I thought that I could bounce higher than the moon and last longer than rock.
But as we grow older, we tend to take a more beneficent look at ourselves and our accomplishments in life.
And I'm not so sure if it's acquiescing to a matter of the exponential curve that we go through in life or looking at all the experiences that we've gleaned through the years and years of practice and sometimes, you know, practicing the same thing over and over.
But as much as it is realizing that our time is not finite.
Until the different latitudes of thinking are changed, the preponderance of people tend to believe that if it hasn't happened before, it's not going to happen now until it's too late, and then everybody freaks and panics.
When you look at folks, how many people actually do preventative dental care or dental taking care of their own teeth?
And that's right inside their mouth.
And hopefully every time they smile, I mean, that's something they see.
How do we regard apathy or lethargy?
I think it becomes descriptive to a word that we've all been taught is real, but it really isn't, and that word is patience.
I think patience was developed by somebody with a real sick sense of humor.
Patience that I've seen in the marketplace, whatever you want to call it, tends to make people lethargic and very apathetic.
They no longer take the responsibility of being creative or proactive in their own life.
Again, the premise that it has never happened before, so what are the chances of it happening now?
In a lot of times, in a lot of cases, the people that I've talked to, and my son and I do seminars all across the country, the preponderance of a response for something like HAARP that is actually accelerating the acceleration is like, gee, I can't relate to that.
Well, what can I do?
It's beyond my control.
It's almost like we live in this womb that tells us the only thing we have an effect on is what's within our house.
All right, and as a matter of fact, hold on one second, let me redo this.
As a matter of fact, we now have a link to your website on my website, and the one you wanted me to get up earlier.
So everybody, if you would go up to my website, which is www.artbell.com, and go down to Speaking Wind's name, you will see a link to energymedicinassociation.com.
And just click on that, and you can go do some reading about what you're hearing about right now.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Speaking Wind.
We're definitely going to go through some changes.
And the more that we hold on to the way things have been, the more it's going to affect us, our perception of tomorrow.
You know, it's like I have my favorite old shirt, and I love that shirt.
I'm always sitting in the house with my shirt.
There are no more elbows in it.
There's very little neck in it.
And the buttons, thank goodness for a prayer and a whisker, that's the only thing that I have a memory of where the buttons once were.
But when people come over to the house, and I have people visiting, and I have to look more appropriate, and change shirts, I don't feel as comfortable without my old shirt.
unidentified
And I've got a favorite down vest just like that.
Isn't it?
It's like 20 years old.
Yeah.
I've been given really nice ones, but I just got to keep where it's got all the pockets and stuff.
But anyway, I guess what I really want to know is When I last spoke with you, it was over the phone with Debbie or something like that a long time ago.
I was wondering, with all the stuff that's going on environmentally and sociologically and all the suffering and chaos that goes on in the world, what do you think are the steps that we can take collectively and consciously as a world to regain the balance and the healing that the world needs?
Do you feel it's just, at least I feel instinctively, we all need to love, but what do you think?
And to answer you truthfully, when we can finally look inside ourselves and love ourselves and come to understand who we are and not just who we're told we are, life becomes a very valuable commodity.
And everything around us becomes something very special.
So it's when we can see the world we live in through those kinds of eyes that we'll stop raping it and just stop destroying it.
unidentified
Sure.
I was wondering, speaking when, have you ever met Betty Eady?
That's amazing because she once said, I see her all the time at seminars, and she says, just our thoughts alone transcend, you know, tend to transcend these happenings that are going on around us, and we just need to generally purify our thoughts in any way we can with all this love.
But it's just, it can be so tough with all the cynicism.
With no disrespect meant to your guest, Art, I think my question is more directed towards you because Speaking Wind said that he hadn't heard your program prior to tonight.
And the reason I brought that up is because so much of what he said echoes so much of what we've heard from other guests on my show that I thought I had to qualify that.
Anyway.
Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified
Well, my question is this, Art.
A couple of nights ago, we're discussing Y2K, and the world's going to end on January 1st of 2000.
I've had the pleasure of attending some meetings here in Los Angeles of a collective that's speaking through a Russ Brown, who is a born psychic.
And they have been warning us that there's something much more dangerous even than heart that's in the works that we must all put our attention on as soon as possible.
And that is work on breaking into the fourth dimension and taking weapons into that dimension or even crude material from the third dimension that could create a devastating destruction of much of creation.
I wonder, is there anything of that information in the information that you're bringing forth?
Have you ever noticed when, just in the normal run of a day, when you're just really angry, really ticked off at either one person or several people or the world, how those same kinds of attitudinal behavior patterns expressed by people come into your life?
And the answer to your question, or perhaps an answer, is instead of carrying the weapons, why don't we just learn to love ourselves and attract others of like ilk?
And as people see, all it's going to take is just a few people that can see it's possible.
We've been away from that for so long.
We've just, we've lost our ability in so many cases of understanding the love we were created with.
And that's what grows within us.
And when that happens, it's almost like beating the swords into plowshares.
I believe, I truly believe that when we can learn to understand the love we have within us, and it's expressed in whatever way, that that has such an unbelievable proportional effect on everyone around us that weapons won't become an issue.
But the longer that we carry that sidearm, the longer we carry the knife, or the longer we carry whatever out of fear, then we become like a magnet.
And when you have several magnets together, it creates a stronger magnetic force.
So I believe the answer is us.
If we want to change things, we have to do it within ourselves, within our heart, and get out of the head, get out of the judgmental thing, quit, you know, quit attempting to look at the world through standards other than our own, and just accept the love we were created with and let that flow forth.
And as a result of that, as a direct result of that, and as an immediate result of that, I believe you'll find people laying down their weapons.
When you're in love, when you feel love, it's amazing, but if you ever notice, trouble doesn't seem to find you.
unidentified
That's very true.
Now, Art approached a subject, too, and that is leaving the planet through death and being someplace else.
In the context that you're speaking tonight, in terms of the promise that was made to us collective, and the promise that will be kept in terms of a fifth world, will many of the souls that don't make it directly by staying alive into the fifth actually reincarnate into the fifth later?
Listen, I think that the human beings, us individuals, have been going through some tests for a very long time now.
And a lot of the tests we seem to be failing, one we seem to be failing wholeheartedly in, is forgiveness, human kindness, and dignity.
And the new test will be, definitely, folks, the Y2K.
And if we think that gunboat mentality is going to save us, and we don't take in each other like the lion taking in the sheep, we're not going to learn a damn thing.
The next test will be even harder and harder and harder.
And as a matter of fact, we have lessons, particular lessons to each individual to learn.
Each time we turn away from them or run away from them, it just gets more emotional until pretty soon we think life is impossible to live.
But like the lion to the sheep, we're all related.
We've all been together before.
And when we can finally come to the place of understanding that in life there are no teachers, there's no gurus, no leaders, no followers, no one knows any more than we do.
They just know something a little different.
Then we'll be able to put the pieces to the puzzle together.
And I assure you, it's a beautiful picture.
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I'll leave you on this note, and it'll be humorous.
This must be the evening for healing remedies because I've been wanting to tell you for a really long time that the remedy to poison ivy grows right beside poison ivy.
It's called Arnica, and you can boil it and put it on like a poltergeist.
All right, to update the audience, there are many people, Richard Hoagland and others, who think, in fact, actually they can document that a HARP test was going on.
There's no question about it.
you can go to Richard's page and see the activity.
You can also see the weather in central Arizona which was Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How frequently do you get that kind of massive snowstorm?
Whenever she feels the depression again, this will work for another five, maybe six months.
To have her cross the index line of the index finger, the first line of the index finger to the first line of the thumb, that stops things from coming into her.
And when she does the same thing to the right hand, the first line of the index finger to the first line on the thumb, when those are crossed, it stops things from coming out.
When both hands are closed, it causes a totally entropic function.
You no longer become a part of whatever's going on around you.
It does that because these are two centers that you have.
In other words, the way that we shake hands today is palm to palm.
And when you do that and you have any kind of emotion inside of you, they're both people, when that happens it's like having two speakers going at full blast facing each other inside the palm.
You can just blow out and you don't feel anything.
Well, one of the particular areas that we use a lot for intuitive healing and reading is the first index of the finger to the first line of the index finger to the first line of the thumb.
When you have those and you hold them in front of you, it almost forms like a U. And anything that comes within that sphere, you can pick up on or you can send out to.
Even for somebody that claims not to be intuitive whatsoever.
So when you cross those lines, you stop, you pull the cable out of the VCR or the television, and you stop your reception.
So when the depression becomes that strong, again, do that.
And you'll notice immediately that the depression will abate.
First of all, let me caveat the answer by saying that I believe that patience was invented by somebody with a sick mind, that it doesn't exist, and that it's just basically a cover-up for lethargy, or to just sit there like a little baby bird with your mouth open and waiting for the tuna worms to come in.
But as far as working with your patients, this is always a good exercise to follow.
And look at the people who are causing disruption in your life or causing you to lose your patience, if there is such a thing.
And understand the mere concept in healing.
You're in a field that is allowing you to help someone, to help someone.
But are we helping from the head or are we helping from the heart?
Are we helping from the head?
Everything is descriptive.
It's not normative.
It's like a clinic just looking at the world and determining what the parameters of acceptable modality are.
And if you don't follow that, then my goodness, there's something wrong with you and either get out or get with the program.
When we look at the patients within ourselves through the heart, we have to understand that what we're doing is because we love doing it, because we feel a love for someone.
And then we kind of remember that they're not feeling well.
And as they're not feeling well, sometimes we can make a few allowances and we begin to understand something, that that mirror that we see in them is actually something that we're doing, that we're not aware of.
And visualize a circle of life around you, and your peripheral vision is 180 degrees.
Anything on the positive quadrant that you can see, we can work with and we can understand because we deal with that on a daily basis.
But the things behind us, the other 180 degrees, are things we can't see unless somebody else shows them to us.
So in regard to that, when people get us upset, when they get us angry, they're basically just showing us something we couldn't see without them.
When you keep that in the front of your mind, chances are that your latitude of longevity in this area of patience will begin to grow.
Because everyone comes to us with a wonderful message, and it's a message of hope, a message of peace, a message of love, because that message is all about us.
And when we can see that, then everybody becomes equal, and everybody becomes a relation.
All that having been said, for example, Americans right now on the road are exhibiting less patience with each other than they ever have before.
And I'm no exception.
As little driving as I do, when I get out there, a lot of days when I get out there, I guarantee you, if I had a front-mounted .50-caliber machine gun and I had a pickle right up front, I'd be pushing the pickle and there would be explosions and flame in front of me, and there would be drivers that wouldn't be driving anymore.
And so a lot of people are out of patience, and I feel it myself.
I want to go beyond impatience to anger, outright anger.
Speaking when we're back on the air again here.
Yesterday, I began getting death threats from people in the Filipino community nationwide, and I discovered that some complete ass wrote this horrid little prejudice,
terrible thing about Filipino people and their culture and signed my name to it and forged a you know, forged my tried to forge my header.
Now, fortunately, you know, he wasn't very good at what he did, and it turned out that it came from a University of Southern California at San Diego server, and not obviously not from me.
But a lot of people in the Filipino community don't know that, and so they would like to do me physical harm.
Well, let me tell you how angry I am.
I'm angry enough that if I can find this guy, and I'm actively looking for who did this, I would send him on to the fourth or fifth world in two seconds flat.
And, you know, when we strike out like he did at you, the reasons behind it are usually because of envy, of wanting to attain something without having to go through the school of hard knocks and at somebody else's expense.
And we've had our whole world history has been like this.
So many times we use other people's expense to make ourselves look better.
I mean, until I can conquer, and I realize, you know, that I need to somehow conquer this kind of anger because until I can conquer it and until everybody else can conquer it, we're not going to get to where we need to be going.
I was just talking to my boardop here a minute ago during the break and I said, man, I know I need a lot more lives because the way I feel right now.
Accept the fact that it does exist, that it did happen.
And once you do that, you'll be Able to calm the waters down enough to see the shoreline.
I don't believe this person is as far away from you finding them as you think.
However, as long as we have rage or anger, we just can't see.
We can't see the front of our nose, even the buckets under our nose.
And, you know, so many times we have things in life that bother us.
And I know a lot of the industrial psychologists, the modality of trend for psychoanalysis has always been wrestle with it, let's confront that.
Direct confrontation, I really believe it's better to embrace something than to directly confront it.
Embrace it, understand it, accept the fact that it is there, it did happen, and then all of a sudden, the anger, the rage dissipates, and you can see a proactive direction to take.
But so many times in the history of the human beings in this world, nothing has ever been settled by killing, by hurting, by doing something at another's expense.
But if people had been astute and listened to a lot of the newscasts, they would have seen within the last year there have been hundreds and thousands of explosions deep in space.
And there are, gosh, so many of the meteors coming this way.
Now, we do say that there'll be a time when the stars at night will fall onto the earth.
The meteor that's coming this way, it's virtually anybody's guess because of our tracking systems currently are so limited.
What can we actually look at in the night sky deep in space?
Less than one-tenth of one percent of the total sky?
And when we look at any single event, in this case the meteor, and we tend to face it with fear, or we tend to face it with anger or rage.
How can this happen to me?
This hasn't happened before, type of thing.
Our attitudes aren't going to change it.
What are we ready for in our life?
I mean, if the world were to end today, this very second, would we be ready?
And when it comes right down to it, we do this kind of self-assessment.
We do one of two things.
Either we freak out, or getting angry at the world and just striking out at anything and everything near and dear to our hearts, or we just understand that do the best you can because nobody knows how many minutes of breathing time they have on this planet.
I mean, it can happen at any time.
I mean, our world can end within a second.
Look at all of the meteors.
Look at all the debris.
Look at all the things that hit this earth.
All of them.
And when we look at ourselves in more than just, you know, put on a coat and a tie and go to work and then come home, watch the game and so on, then life does become meaningless.
And because it is so meaningless, we fear losing it.
It's almost like a paradigm in a way.
But as far as the meteor goes, if there's anything you can do to change something, then by all means, become proactive.
If there's nothing you can do to change it, then why worry about it?
Extremely difficult for me today because the lines are very busy and you know that the telephone connections are not that good down here right now.
In regard to positiveness and anger, I think that we all have to be positive concerning the times we're living in right now.
I myself have had some tremendous experiences concerning UFO activity.
I even sent you an email recently, Art.
I also sent it to Peter Davenport concerning triangle UFO objects fly-bys here in Tijuana and down in the coast of Baja California, Mexico.
There has been a lot of activity recently in that area, but I wanted to talk to Mr. Speaking Wind.
Speaking Wind, yes.
In concern to a theory that, well, it's not a theory.
There was a contact team that was down here in Mexico.
He's an anthropologist from the southern state of Guerrero.
He was contacted by what he says are extraterrestrial entities that came from the planet Venus.
Based on this, he mentioned something about us being controlled in another dimension in regard to hyper-evolutionizing us to a change.
And I think that that changes would be the same change that all of us are thinking of.
We don't exactly know what it is, but we do know that somebody is hyper-evolving us in the sense that everything's evolving faster each day.
And we all feel it that way.
I would like to know his opinion and concern to that.
And also, my last question is in regard to what he mentioned about a straying planet a long time ago that impacted or hit one of our moons.
As to believe, this is from a person, the same person that I told you about, Martin Guerrero.
I have an interview with him.
I used to be a radio host too.
But unfortunately, I had to leave that.
In regard to that, supposedly what he said that these people told him is that one of those strange planets hit one of our two moons, because before we had two moons, and one of those moons entered the Gulf of Yucatan, creating the Gulf of Yucatan, I'm sorry, and well, eliminating the dinosaur population.
As a matter of fact, first of all, in answer to, I believe your first question is, yeah, the people that come in from outer space have been here for a long time.
I have seen them several times and talked with them.
Some are very nice, and others just don't bother me.
But as far as the two moons going into the Gulf of Mexico, my brother Chi Wei discovered an ancient city that had been sunk under the sea.
And in that, he did find writings that do confirm what you're talking about.
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Okay.
I have the whole book from these people.
They sent this book to this person.
I have the papers.
I would love to send them to Art by any means, compressed in WINSIP file, and maybe he can send them to you so you can recheck them.
It's very interesting information about our evolution as humans.
If you noticed, within the last five or six years, we have taken such quantum leaps and actually looking at a higher perspective than we ever have before in the recorded history that we have in this world.
We look at life as something that is very precious now.
Our children's lives are, I don't believe it's instinctive.
I believe it's from the heart.
We hold them in a higher place than we hold our own.
We don't know if there's going to be some idiot that pushes a button and releases a nuclear bomb or we don't know if a meteor is going to fall and hit our car and kill us or our family or a neighbor.
We don't know when we might get bit by a tick or a mosquito carrying malaria or...
Anyway, for your guest, Speaking Wind, That's a beautiful name, by the way.
Well, thank you.
I just want to quickly share with you, and maybe you can help me out.
One of my spiritual experiences I had a year or two ago, I guess you can call it an outer body, but I spiritually traveled up to space in a silent kind of space.
Yes.
And off the distance, I saw this gigantic size, it looked like a round circle.
So the closer I got to it, I noticed that there was at least a million tiny white beams of light.
And they were moving in like a clockwise direction.
Yes.
And the sound that came from this was like a very intense, low-energy sound.
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First of all, the spirals that you saw going clockwise that we're making the lohums, those are called time doors or time portals.
The next time you're close to one, if they're going forward, they will unlock a picture for you of what is about to happen in your life.
if they're going counterclockwise they there's a message coming to you from the past in a vision like this now even though there were there were just so many of them yes
Now, when you were in the theater, incidentally, once you touch one of them, then besides the gentleman who you do know, and you know very well, I might add, once you touch one of those, you will be given an opportunity of standing in the theater and speaking yourself.
Now, in order to remember, in order to remember, each night before you go to bed, say three times to yourself, I wish to remember, I wish to be healed.
And then in the morning when you wake up, the first thing you do is stretch from your toes to your little fingers and just say thank you for no reason, just say thank you.
And the first three minutes after you get out of bed, walk in this way.
Little toe, big toe, heel.
Set the little toe on the floor first, the big toe, then the heel.
Doesn't matter what you're walking on or if you have slippers on or socks or just your bare feet.
But for those first three minutes and throughout the day, you'll begin to remember bits and pieces until it all comes together.
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Okay.
And can I just ask you something?
I believe that this information was for me to help others.
And the harp thing, of course, has been definitely a concern of mine.
And I am really amazed at the amount of apathy up here and the people that just don't know.
And I know that Ed Begich ran for governor this last time.
He was a write-in, but I sure voted for him because I just, this state is just so, I don't know, you know, they're just, I don't know, just pro-development all the way.
And I wish I could say that I really felt that, but I'm telling you the truth.
If I could choke that sucker to death, he'd be gone.
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I have felt that way, too.
But that's how I'm learning to deal with my anger, you know?
It's just kind of turn it around and, you know.
And to speaking wind, I have, you know, I have been doing a lot of studies.
And one of the things is that I understand that the Hopis, you know, they have their, they call them summer homes, you know, with electricity and everything.
And then they have their kivas.
That they have just to go to for the end of the day to go in.
And they close their windows and just sit and pray, basically, to wait out those three days or whatever.
Yes.
To make that shift.
Do you know anything about that?
Or you're not supposed to have any kind of synthetic, like, nails or any kind of synthetic material in these buildings, these structures.
Because in the next dimension, those things are just thought forms and they're just going to kind of dematerialize.
I think the, one of the misconceptions that the Spaniards had about the people on the lands of the Mesa was they misunderstood because so much is lost in translation.
They believe the Native Americans at that time thought that when this life was over, that was it.
They just went under the earth, which is not the case.
But in the same regard, without having nails, without having anything manufactured, It's basically a way, and I don't know specifics about this, just very general.
the Hopi would be the ones to actually tell you about what all of this means.
But in my interp interpolation, I guess, is everything that has to do with the Earth and that has to do with getting ourselves prepared to do with resurfacing re-emerging from the surface of the company.
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And you know, I had this really interesting dream about six weeks ago, and it seemed so real.
It was an hourglass in the sky.
The stars had made an hourglass, and then there was a rip inside this hourglass, and there was this beautiful, beautiful liquid, golden, almost watery light coming from this rip in the sky.
And there were a lot of heads around it.
There were a lot of people, and we're all just staring up at this thing.
And, you know, I kind of saw it as a window into another dimension.
It is.
And occasionally I have these dreams, and this is one of those dreams where it's going to happen, you know.
It is not a dimension beyond sight and sound as in the Twilight Zone.
What you were actually looking at, apparently you've been doing a lot of internalizing and thought processes about the reality of time, the concept of time.
And the RIF is really your ability to break beyond the time barrier and realize that it's all in the present if we just let go of the blinders that we have.
And, yes, there are many people working this issue right now, working a lot of prayer, a lot of meditation, a lot of speaking, to remind people that time is as fixed as a proof in science.
You know, and think about a proof in science.
500 years ago, it was scientific fact that the Earth was flat.
And everything revolved around the Earth, the sun, the solar system, and whatnot.
It's amazing how scientific fact changes with time.
I'd like to run this theory behind you on this patience and anger thing.
I don't equate patience with inactivity, but in our anger, I think we're blocked from the true source and the true action that we should take at that moment.
And the thing with art saying, yeah, I'd like to strangle that guy's neck, or maybe someone wants to punch someone in the nose, that may be true, but if we would just have this moment, this space between us, if we wouldn't just react right away, if we just had this little buffer zone, maybe it is a right act to do to stop someone forcibly or not.
Yeah, as long as we embrace the situation and look at it and accept it as being real, and then we can find our own way through the muddle and the mire.
I don't know who they were because I didn't speak to them, but I did see them.
My impression was somebody that has really missed the boat on humanity and has a big rock in their hand.
You know, we regard aliens as somebody who can misuse us as human beings, when on the other hand, we think nothing of a scientist experimenting on a lab rat or on a cat or on another animal or a plant.
And chances are, if and when we ever do reach another planet and heaven help the life form, if it's perceptibly lower than we are, we'll be just as guilty as doing that.
But there are those that come with an understanding and a love that is beyond words to help.
And there are those who come with a lot of knowing but not understanding.
And they become the scientists and we become the lab rats.
So use discretion.
When you see anything like that, chances are if they intend to harm you or manipulate you in any way, you will feel a sudden heaviness in the air around you, like it's almost difficult for you to move.
And if you can just get away, it's probably better.
First of all, I'd like to tell you, thank you for touching my heart this morning, you and Speaking Wind.
Well, thank you.
Over the years, I've learned one thing.
To help deal with anger or rage, Art, as you say that you have, first off, you have to learn to love yourself.
As this gentleman said earlier, if you get up in the morning, you look in the mirror and you tell yourself that you love yourself, that's a good way to deal with it.
Because I've learned that loving myself, the true faults, and the true goodness, I'm able to deal with things in a more positive manner.
It's like a PMA, positive mental attitude.
You can deal with everybody else's negativity as long as you have a positive force yourself.
And that it seems that there is so much of the anger in the world as you have, as we have, it is good to be angry, but then get over it.
Do you have any comments while we're at it on the whole ufology business and all these things like that man talked about that are being seen in our skies?
I can just tell you this, from Move On Directors in Georgia to Peter Davenport, who runs the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, to all the other people I talk to, they're all saying the same thing.
These sightings are all drastically, suddenly on the increase.
As a matter of fact, you know, Art, more people encounter, and they're only our relations.
That's all they are.
And when you look at it in that regard, then it's like meeting your brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin, grandparents, whatever.
There's a commonality.
But if you remember, if you ever come across some of the old chronicles in history, whenever change came about that changed the scientific proven fact of the day, it was embraced with the same fear concept.
Oh, no, the world cannot be round.
This is ridiculous because I can see that it's flat right over the horizon.
I would like to tell you about an experience that I had in 1972.
I was lying across my bed when all of a sudden I felt this tremendous magnetic pull.
It was so traumatic that it pulled me from my physical body.
And then I seemed to be traveling.
Instead, I went down into the earth straight down into the earth at tremendous speed.
And there seemed to be someone with me.
And I felt a hand at my back.
And he kept consoleing me and telling me there was nothing to be afraid of.
Soon we were at the center of the earth.
And it was nothing but hollowness, a globe.
And as far as I could see, there was hollowness.
I was led out into the center of this globe in a light that was shining down.
We went down through this light, and then we came out on the side of a mountain somewhere in Mexico or Central America because of the types of homes and villages that we seemed to pass over at a tremendous rate of speed.
We finally came to this lake and I looked down and on the lake were eight UFOs.
And they were beside every two UFOs there seemed to be a small building like either making repairs or using it to draw water from this lake.
And then I heard a woman's voice.
She said, June, can you hear me?
And I turned around and I saw this woman all in white floating there in the air.
And she said, until you escape from the world of godliness, will you discover the real truth?
The name Two Bear usually comes to those who are caught in a dilemma of some kind.
First of all, the home of bear in the West is where one goes to take in all the events that have come into their life and sort through them.
Like the bear goes into hibernation, we go into hibernation.
Solitude, we look at the things that have been affecting us.
Is that for us and is that not for us?
It's the ability of being able to let go of the things that are not for us and then to better understand the things that are.
The two bear is the ability that one has to walk with one foot on the spiritual side of life and one foot on the physical side and to maintain the balance.
Okay, it was kind of irritating the thought that I had been on the phone for about three hours trying to call you, and here she's been talking to you several times, and yet she's using that first-time caller line.
During the time that you were having that dream, chances are very high that you were caught in a dichotomy.
One side of you, on whatever issues you were working with at the time, was saying, no, be subtle in your life, be the quiet one, and the other side was, I need to attract attention, I need to do something that will get me noticed.
And because of the familiarity of the house, and what did you say was half?
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I was very young.
I was, you know, like 15 at the time.
But it kind of bothered me because I felt almost like it was a warning that our time was like half over with.
Okay, one of the things that the dream was sharing with you is to keep remembering, keep this in your conscious, cognitive mind, that as you walk through life, and you're very fortunate to have received this at such a young age, that life is split in two parts.
The red is symbolic of the physical part because we have red blood going through our veins, and the blue is symbolic of the spiritual part.
So keep the two in balance.
Apparently, you have the ability of being very intuitive and are able to glean through situations rather easily.
And you're also able to tune into people's thoughts and to look behind their words in relationship to the meaning that they have versus the words that they speak to you.
And it was just a reminder to keep your balance, keep your spiritual balance with your physical balance, because it'd be real easy to go overboard on either side.