Ed Dames and Richard Hoagland join Art Bell to dissect the EQPEG hoax, where manipulated data hints at intelligence agency involvement, while NASA’s risky decisions during the 1999 Leonid meteor storm—like keeping Hubble operational—spark speculation about hidden agendas. Dames’ remote viewing predicts 2001 solar catastrophes tied to Revelation’s seven seals, including a defective AIDS vaccine mark enforcing social exclusion, and locates Noah’s Ark in Jordan, not Mount Ararat. Callers debate biblical prophecies like the Antichrist’s temple desecration and the mark’s nature, dismissing tech theories (chips, barcodes) as speculative. Bell’s skepticism contrasts with Dames’ 80% accuracy claims, yet both underscore eerie parallels between cosmic threats, vaccines, and apocalyptic timelines, leaving listeners to question whether warnings are genuine or orchestrated disinformation. [Automatically generated summary]
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Boy, we've got a lot going on tonight.
It's going to be a big show.
Now, Friday the 13th brought as advertised the Candle in the Dark and Snuff Candle Awards.
The bent wick.
I got bent wick.
Actually, the snuff candle is what I got.
They applauded PBS's Scientific American, Frontier is actually the show, for scientific examination of pseudoscience and the paranormal.
Also, they gave the award to a group that goes after the paranormal, huh?
And then it goes on, criticizes radio host Art Bell for paranormal and conspiracy mystery mongery.
And so this press conference occurred in Los Angeles earlier today.
And just before airtime, I got a fax from Ed Bannon, who was at the press conference today.
And, of course, I wasn't there.
I sent a statement.
As a matter of fact, I did send a statement.
And you know what I said to them?
I said, here, read this.
They said, we'll read a statement from you if you wish.
So I sent them a statement, which simply said, a mind should not be so open that the brains fall out.
However, it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached on behalf of those with the smallest remaining open aperture, I accept with honor.
I understand they did read that at the press conference.
But since we've got somebody who was really there covering the press conference, Ed Bennon, Ed, hi there.
How would you describe, other than the roasting, which we don't have to go over because I know what they said, you tried to ask a few questions, I guess, toward the end or what?
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Yes, there were three very distinguished gentlemen that were in that article that I sent you.
They both got up, or all three of them got up, and went on quite lengthily in a speech, which altogether took about an hour.
And at the end of this hour, the gentleman, the producer that I was with, Ted, asked, said, well, can we have questions now?
And ABC was already, as soon as the awards were handed out, they were gone.
uh and i'm not sure how many people that were left behind me because we were right up in the front so ted asked the question asked a couple of questions and um uh and then Well, he asked this question about their whole thing was trying to get equal time for science.
And so he put to them that science was also responsible for the science of nuclear energy.
And you see what that got us.
It got us a bomb that killed a lot of people.
And now we have another bad pollution problem that we have all this radioactive waste and there's no way to get rid of it.
you know, the person that got the good award, the Candle in the Dark Award, was Scientific American, or that show that they, you know, they sponsored, that's produced on PBS.
Earlier this week, a couple days ago, there was a very enterprising, I use that term advisedly, individual from North Carolina who sent us, you and Keith, a back claiming he had found a trail of numbers, the headers on these various messages and websites.
And that got Keith going and looking very assiduously and going back and asking for more information.
And as of, I guess, yesterday, Keith had posted on both the websites, Enterprise and Art Bell, a provisional trail, an electronic paper trail, showing that the real Paul Dore had posted from his own computer on some of the same sites that the fake Paul Dore earlier in the month had posted.
Well, in his private communication with a confidant who I will not reveal because I don't do that, when he was given a list of questions, about 20 questions, I thought that number was intriguing.
Dr. David Whitehouse, who is a science correspondent at the online.
That's right, who I, by the way, have been in touch with, and who is still prepared to keep an open mind on the signal.
I know there are a lot of very important news, everybody.
That the reporter, the PhD astronomer who started this publicly by posting Paul Doar's original material, is still prepared, in terms of communication with Enterprise, to keep an open mind on the reality of a signal, a real radio signal.
Now, that I found very interesting because you put that together with Sestrostak and what's going on on the SETI website, and you put that together with some other evidence that we'll talk about in a few minutes, and frankly, it's still an open question whether we really have a signal.
Notwithstanding, we have some remarkable evidence of a, quote, hoax on the internet.
They are not one and the same, and this is something everybody should keep in mind tonight.
So back to Mr. Doerr.
What Mr. Doer has done on his own website is as interesting as attacking me in this set of private communications.
Because at the top of his website, he lists a series of links.
And the first link is to Enterprise.
Now, why in the world would Mr. Doar, who claims we're behind this, perpetrating this absurdity, why would he be linking to the Enterprise website?
It's one thing to call us names.
It's another thing to provide an easy access so people can read for themselves what we are putting out for the public.
In other words, it's not what they're saying, Art.
It's what they're doing.
Remember, my model is we have a real signal.
We have a confused disinformational trail by intelligence agencies at war within themselves or with each other.
And what someone is trying to do is to, with incredible plausible deniability, point to the folks that are following the trail.
We have arranged, Keith and I have arranged, to have live links on the internet through your site and enterprise during those several days leading up to and afterwards the peak.
And there are two aircraft, an Electra and a KC-135, very similar to a jet aircraft that I kind of borrowed from the Air Force back when I was Cronkite Science Advisor to chase an eclipse up the east coast of the U.S. This aircraft is being outfitted with LIDAR and radar and special cameras and video,
and it will be orbiting off Japan, I believe, under the kind of zero point where if you were there in that airplane looking up, you might have the most extraordinary sight.
And again, there'll be links to all this, and we'll do our best, and the Bell site will do its best to provide, through good old Scotty Rowland, live links as they occur.
Now, when we come back after the bottom of the hour, there is an unfortunate apparent link between the leonids that are going to occur, Galaxy 5, the very satellite that I use to reach the radio stations nationwide and beyond, and sadly, even the Hubble Telescope.
And so I think we ought to briefly cover all of that when we get back.
How's that?
I do too.
All right, good.
Stay right there.
And there's much, much more for us to cover.
Because you see, there is an astronomer in Bangkok, in Thailand, who says that about three more times round for this comet, the one that we're going to pass through the debris of, and it's going to be a dead center hit on Earth.
A hit that he suggests could possibly extinguish all life.
This is a respected astronomer, and he said he thinks NASA knows about it.
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Back now to Richard C. Hoagland, and let us now move on to a couple of other possible implications of the Leonid meteor storm that is getting ready to grace our skies.
Richard, I'm carried on Galaxy 5, along with Rush and Laura and Michael Reagan and many others, HBO, Cinemax, all of these movie services, about 30% of the nation's telephone service, and on and on and on and on.
Galaxy 5 is really, really important.
And right in the middle of the Leonid meteor storm, they are going to do what?
Then someone faxed me, and I got more intrigued because they had seen something similar.
Then I forwarded some material over to Peter Gersten, who runs CAUSE, and he got one of his sources who he knows, so there's a paper trail, who had a confidant located in the Black Ops area to actually confirm that there appears to be a genuine Y2K test scheduled for Galaxy 5 on Monday night during the height of the Leonid storm.
Well, the theory is that the computer is going to fail.
And that if it does fail, they can simply blame the Leonids for the thing going down.
Now, none of this makes any sense unless you think like certain folks do.
Let's assume that we're dealing with not weirdness, but simple greed.
Let's assume that you are Hughes or whoever makes the satellite and you think that maybe you're going to have a serious Y2K problem coming up starting maybe in April of next year.
And you want to test the computers to see if they will be compatible with the rollover.
If you don't want to be hit by enormous insurance claims, in other words, if you want to blame it on an act of God and not an act of man, then maybe you would conduct such a test during the height of an event, 33-year event, where if something goes wrong, you can always claim, oops, the Leonids did it.
So if I'm suddenly off the air Monday night, Tuesday morning, if D5 is off the air, if your telephone calls don't get through, you're going to know what happened.
The more sinister interpretation is that this is being arranged at this time because someone wants Galaxy 5 down, and they know that between that test and the Leonids, there's a pretty good chance.
I think 90% was quoted in this communication, that it will go down.
Generally, you know, we attack Iraq under a new moon when there's not a lot of light, right?
Yep.
Okay.
If we were to attack Iraq with our super accurate GPS-guided missiles, and Leonids were to suddenly take out the GPS constellation or enough of it, our well-guided missiles would um uh wouldn't be guided at all.
No, this is really strange, you know, the the height of bizarreness because we are now about to enter an event that has not occurred for 33 years.
We have 600 plus satellites, scientific and navigation and military and reconnaissance and all that upstairs.
CNN has been running all day updates on the status of the military side of things, and they're not very sanguine.
I have seen Air Force documentation.
I've seen NORAD alerts.
The NORAD people were forecasting privately, we got a hold of one of their memos, a 20% kill rate for the satellites.
That would be devastating, not just economically, but if you're in the middle of a major war and you're relying on high-tech weaponry that requires GPS.
You go to the STI website, the Space Telescope Incident website, and you start at the top and you scroll down.
You can actually find the link to the NASA sites on Enterprise.
And there is a press release that says very proudly that during the height of the Leonid storm Monday night, Hubble will still be on the job photographing a little quasar.
What NASA is going to do is the equivalent of leaving everything on during the most incredible thunderstorm you can imagine.
And they have a $2 billion unique national facility.
And for some reason, the head of the institute, the director, has turned over 10 hours of his discretionary time to a group of astronomers who proposed during this crucial period that they absolutely had to have spectroscopic data and images of this quasar, which will be there two days later.
Now, these are the same folks, remember, who would not take pictures of the center of Hale-Bopp from the shadow of the Earth even after it had been proven to be safe because they didn't want to risk the telescope.
There's something bizarre here, and I must tell you that I do not have a good feeling about this one, all right?
The bad feeling, which comes from a line from Star Wars, is that if you wanted an excuse to make Hubble go away, to take it over and privately use it to look at something when no one would look over your shoulder, you set this up so that the public and the astronomical community thinks that, oops, it got fried in the meteor storm because somebody was stupid.
And then that gives you a wonderful excuse to take it offline, and someone with another control center simply uses it, and the Goddard folks, the NASA folks, the honest folks will never know.
Now, why do I think this is more than likely?
Because three sources that I know, one of them was Stan Tennant.
Saw news reports two days ago announcing, one of them was on the Discover channel, announcing that the Hubble was being taken down for two years for repairs, and that was how long the next scheduled shuttle mission for repair would take, so it was going to be two years.
Now, how do you get a news report on a failure which has not yet occurred?
The first thing I did was to go to the site to see if this, in fact, was true, and there's no press release.
But these people, who of course had no reason to make this up, saw this news story.
Is it possible that we're getting a leak?
A heads up.
But the press release has been written.
The excuse is already in place.
This will be issued Tuesday morning after the debacle of Hubble being blown apart by Leonids Monday night because someone forgot to close the door and turn off the electronics and power down the high voltage so it can weather the storm.
You put the dots together, and I want to say something editorial about people who are absolutely furious at you and me and a few other folks who claim, you know, they call me Richard Hoaxland, which frankly Is just a little bit boring, all right?
All I try to do is to connect patterns.
That's what science is: it's looking at patterns.
I am not saying that we have found truth, I'm saying we have a process for figuring the way to find the truth.
What I want people to do when I make these points and present evidence on the air is to follow the trail, duplicate what we have done, look in the places we have looked and come to your own darn conclusions.
We have from all sorts of sources, it's on my website.
You can check it out right now if you want to.
We have information that a Thai astronomer is predicting based on, and he's a well-respected astronomer too, ran on UPIAP, ran on in the nation and on and on and on, that the big show we're about to get from the Leonids is going to be more of a show in the year 2097 because the comet is going to impact directly with Earth.
His words, causing catastrophic results, possibly the end of all life, or quoting a recent movie, an ELE, an LE, an extinction-level event in 2097.
What is remarkable is that he claims in 100 years that Temple Tuttle is going to smack stab into the Earth, and it's about a mile, mile and a half in size, and it would produce close to an extinction-level event.
What is remarkable is that a few days ago on November 6th, the National Science Foundation issued a press release describing the KC-135 and the Electra outfitted with special instrumentation to orbit under the center of the storm in the Earth's atmosphere on the night side over Japan.
The title of their press release says, Research aircraft fly below once in a century leon and meteor storm.
Now that's not true.
The Temple Tuttle orbit and the Earth's orbit are synchronous such that every 33 years we come back around and have a major event.
You know, 98, 99, 66, 33, etc.
So how can the National Science Foundation make a huge major gaffe like that?
Maybe it's not a gaffe.
Maybe it's, and people are going to yell out there, I can hear them even now, maybe it's a message.
Because what the astronomer from Thailand puts in his story is that NASA, in fact, knows this is going to occur.
If it is true, and this is another way of kind of speaking to us between the lines, otherwise I have a press release from the NSF which is blatantly untrue until a few hours later, or a few days later, we get this interesting data point from Thailand of an astronomer using JPL's own data, NASA's own data at the Jeff Propulsion Laboratory, to calculate an impact.
What if this has nothing to do, Art, with Temple Title at all?
What if, in fact, it is an indication else that they know, which is coming?
And that's the reason why Hubble is supposed to go dark.
Now, why would I think any of this?
Because when you go to the Thailand website, Link Through Enterprise and Link Through Art Bell, you find two related links in the nation story, the newspaper out of Bangkok.
And what do we have on the Enterprise website but the oh my god Pegasus story, which also involves details and data points relating to potential asteroid cometary impact?
This is serious stuff because if we are dealing with potential Armageddon and if NASA folks know something's coming, and if someone wants to take Hubble down publicly so they can look at it privately, then it's all our business, midgets notwithstanding.
No, what's next is that we have serious evidence tonight, reports, which we're going to try to check out tomorrow, of this military activity that I'm talking about in Arizona.
Now, bear in mind, everybody, that we're cranking up to go spank Saddam again, no doubt to not get him, but just to throw away a few million dollars worth of cruise missiles.
So activity could be related to that because there is mobilization going on all over the place.
The problem is that these reports are coming from places where, A, it isn't an Army base, you know, military, Navy, Air Force, whatever.
And two, you wouldn't assemble equipment in the middle of an Arizona desert to go to Iraq.
Kind of a long trek without an airfield.
So this looks more like in terms of the December 7th event.
And again, everyone who thinks that we're crying wolf, pay attention to the data points.
There are several go-no-go decision points in this trend curve.
We have been given privately information as to the exact location and the timetable of the assembly of the military cordon around this so-called landing site.
If that date arrives and nothing happens, I will be the first on the air to tell you it's not going to take place.
Well, let me begin then by offering my congratulations for your reward, this Nubark, our in-house work at SciTech.
What we are describing as a massive volcanism, a lot of volcanoes, causing what the Bible, the King James Version, describes as the moon turning blood red and the sun becoming black.
The same thing, by the way, roughly, that Father Malachi Martin has said he has been looking for, as well as signs from the sky.
Father Malachi, of course, who is recovering, Con Wood, we'll get him back on the air one of these days, we pray, said there would be three days of darkness.
And it was almost, you know, I scratched my head.
How could there possibly be three days of darkness?
How could that happen?
Sun goes up, sun goes down on a fairly regular basis.
Now, there are some other geophysical events that we haven't been able to put our finger on, but most of our work, most of our technical remote viewing sessions describe our volcanism.
By the way, if you recall, I dedicated this work to Father Malachi Martin.
I was reminded the other day of an old Chinese saying, and it goes like this, evil exists when good men fail to act.
And there's been no lack of proper context.
And although you never know when your show could go down, 96 hours from now, maybe sooner than that.
I'm going to place this in context later in the show, but I'll talk about this mark right now.
We use technical remote viewing to do a lot of work against it.
This mark will be mandated first in elementary schools, beginning about three and a half years from now.
And then over time, it will be enforced throughout the general population in all countries.
As the Bible states, it'll be well-nigh impossible to gain employment, eventually, as we found, even to go to school or travel without showing evidence that you have received this mark.
The mark will also be administered to newborns and possibly even before birth in utero.
This mark is now undergoing final testing.
The final testing will be completed in three years.
These projects took about two months of work against selections from Revelations, biblical Revelations.
We've never done anything like this before.
The reason we did it is because we wanted to see if the event lines in Revelations, where we were on those event lines, we went in with the postulate, the hypothesis that the event lines in Revelations were accurate.
Because as you know, in technical remote viewing, we have difficulty with knowing where we are in time.
So we wanted to use checkpoints in Revelations to find out where we were at in time, if we were close to what has been described as end times, those kinds of things.
And came up with some very, very interesting results that I'm going to talk about tonight.
Now, we don't care whether the passages were in English.
In fact, you know, the Bibles were translated from Hebrew to Greek to English.
Some of the passages were purposely cryptic.
All of them were symbolic, but many were simply not expressible of information that would take place in the prophetic future in terms of the times more than 2,000 years ago.
Practical remote viewing bypasses that problem by going directly to the idea as it exists as a pattern of information and downloading it to the individual remote viewer and the individual remote viewer's own lexicon expresses what they're perceiving.
And that lexicon is, of course, contemporary.
And that way we can put this ancient information in terms of today's knowledge.
It just so happens, though, it appears to us, that the prophetic information is information about events that are happening right now.
And before I return to the mark of the beast, I want to point one thing out about biblical passages.
It's a very important thing.
This is not one of the prophets speaking.
This is Jesus Christ in a response.
Targets are, for instance, missing people, tactical type of targets.
What's in that building over there?
Where is the enemy?
That type of thing.
This was a topic.
All of our sessions, and you have to conduct about six or seven sessions to pull out these ideas on something this generic and non-discreet.
The abomination, abomination in terms of biblical meanings is sodomy.
The abomination of desolation is church-sanctioned gay marriages, a marriage that's barren by design.
All you need to do is scroll down to the guest area and click on Ed's name, the link right there, and over you go and you can do a lot more reading about technical remote viewing.
These projects took about two months of work against selections from Revelations, biblical revelations.
We've never done anything like this before.
The reason we did it is because we wanted to see if the event lines in Revelations, where we were on those event lines, we went in with the postulate, the hypothesis that the event lines in Revelations were accurate.
Because as you know, in technical remote viewing, we have difficulty with knowing where we are in time.
So we wanted to use checkpoints in Revelations to find out where we were at in time, if we were close to what has been described as end times, those kinds of things.
And came up with some very, very interesting results that I'm going to talk about tonight.
Now, we don't care whether the passages were in English.
In fact, you know, the Bibles were translated from Hebrew to Greek to English.
Some of the passages were purposely cryptic.
All of them were symbolic, but many were simply not expressible of information that would take place in the prophetic future in terms of the times more than 2,000 years ago.
Technical remote viewing bypasses that problem by going directly to the idea as it exists as a pattern of information and downloading it to the individual remote viewer and then the individual remote viewer's own lexicon expresses what they're perceiving.
And that lexicon is, of course, contemporary.
And that way we can put this ancient information in terms of today's knowledge.
It just so happens, though, it appears to us, that the prophetic information is information about events that are happening right now.
And before I return to the mark of the beast, I want to point one thing out about biblical passages.
It's a very important thing.
This is not one of the prophets speaking.
This is Jesus Christ in a response to his disciples in one of his sermons when they asked, how will we know when the end times are here?
And out of the mouth of Christ himself, he says, you'll know it is the end times when the abomination of desolation is standing where it ought not.
And I thought, wow, this is real good because we'll subject this to our tools, pull out the meanings in terms of today, and see what Jesus of Nazareth himself was talking About.
And that way, when we see it, we'll know whether or not, if one accepts the truth of the Bible, we'll know whether or not we're near the end times.
Do you know what we ended up with that?
When we hit that as a target, a second remote game target.
And by target, I mean a topical search.
Our normal targets are, for instance, missing people, tactical type of targets.
What's in that building over there?
Where is the enemy?
That type of thing.
This was a topic.
All of our sessions, and you have to conduct about six or seven sessions to pull out these ideas on something this generic and non-discreet.
The abomination, abomination in terms of biblical meanings is sodomy.
The abomination of desolation is church-sanctioned gay marriages, a marriage that's barren by design.
It is the church collaborating in the destruction of the family and in supporting gay marriages.
And that is what was pulled out of this.
The abomination of desolation.
Both the Old and the New Testament talk about sodomy.
And the point is, standing where it ought not, a marriage of a man and a woman, the traditional man and a woman church, sanctioned by the church, that when a marriage of two men or two women are in that place, that is what Christ himself was talking about.
When you see the abomination of desolation standing where it ought not, when we target this, we sketch and describe two men standing before an altar being married by a priest in a church.
Now we're seeing that today.
So what does that mean for us?
You'll know the end times are here when you see that.
So that was important for us because it is another check mark that indicates that we may indeed be this last generation that biblical prophets have described.
The scientist interviewed, everybody will hear it Sunday on Dreamland, said, you know, we were tracking two or three diseases, and we only understood, I think, one of them.
And now we're tracking, I forget what he said, 12 or 14 or 24 diseases, and we don't understand any of them.
And the rate of destruction of the coral reefs in some cases has reached past 50 towards 70%.
We selected out a couple of other passages from Revelations.
We selected the beast of Revelation 13.
We wanted to determine, and using today's lexicon, what the tool of technical remote viewing could download looking at the idea of the beast of Revelation 13.
And the beast, we thought, might equate to an individual, but it did not.
It is the animal nature of man as opposed to the divine nature of man.
That's where the field, this antichrist idea, this field effect, finds a residence.
The term 666 is a symbol for the beast in Revelations, but it's also the number of a man, if you remember.
And what 666 amounts to, I've mentioned this once before, we did some further study on it to elaborate it.
It is essence, we end up sketching and describing actual physical money, and we end up describing situations where possession, greed, money, and lust are involved.
It's the vehicle via which the beast, this idea, rules the hearts of men, exercises the people.
Power is really exercised over people because of money, the root of all evil.
The vehicle of money is used, the pursuit and the fixation upon worldly things.
So that's what that equates to.
But the mark of the beast was the most interesting of all because in prophecy it specifically states that women who are nursing children and woe to the woman who is nursing or with child because a heavy price is going to be paid by infants.
I think, though, Ed, sensible people, if presented with an AIDS vaccine who understand their sex lives, what they're doing and what they're not doing, will act accordingly and will not exactly rush down to get something they don't need.
Well, again, harking back to Revelations, it is described that the people that refuse this mark will be essentially excommunicated to what in Revelations is termed the desert of the nations or the wilderness of the people.
You're actually compelled and under, coerced, actually, to being vaccinated because you simply can't travel.
You can't get a good-paying job or perhaps any job if you don't have that vaccination because AIDS becomes such a terrible epidemic.
Look at Africa today.
And these are all young adults, the most economically important group, that are dying.
And for the most part, and that that's the group that the United States at least can't afford to lose because those are the ones that are going to pay Social Security for you and I. You know, Ed, I was just in Africa.
Well, that is why this idea of the desert of the nations was so important.
Because, you know, what do you do if you're trying to escape the domination of a new world government?
You have to go somewhere.
And it turns out that this wilderness of the people are physical sites that are not pre-designated.
They're just places that congregations of people who do not want that mark end up and being together, like-minded people, spiritually oriented and like-minded.
And there's a sorting out.
There's a sort of an exodus that occurs to these spots.
And there's a sorting out that's difficult to understand.
Essentially, supposedly led and executed by angels.
Sci-tech has called these spots sanctuaries.
They're sanctuaries in terms of geophysical events, too.
And lastly, the people at those places are to receive what Revelations calls the bond of the covenant.
Now, when we remote view this, we might as well be Nostradamus trying to describe a skyscraper or a Cadillac today.
It is something that I do not have a lexicon for.
The closest that I can describe this particular event, again, that's termed the bond of the covenant in the English language, is something like the fundamental particles of nature coalescing into a cloud above these people.
And that's all I can do with that.
I don't have the thesaurus, the personal memory bank, the lexicon to be able to deal with what is happening here.
And is this why sometimes you're close, for example, the bovine AIDS and now the mark the vaccination, but nevertheless the AIDS and still the children.
In other words, you see a result, but you don't quite see the mechanism that brings it about?
When we were looking, for instance, when we were looking at the idea of AIDS as a disease, of the HIV virus turning into a full-blown pandemic, wasn't there yet when we were trying to determine what was killing these children.
And when our lexicon is loaded, when our memory banks have this information, when we perceive an idea, an abstract idea, it's a right brain type of activity.
That idea has to find the label in our memory banks.
If it can't find the label, we can't express it as individuals.
So we're in the collective unconscious.
We may grasp the idea of, let's say, a new Type of space propulsion system in the future.
But it may be a design based upon technology that doesn't exist today.
Actually, our focus is on the effects on the magnetosphere.
I think that this may be what is going to cause the volcanism art, the Earth's magnetic field being pumped like that.
I think that that may lead, I'm guessing now, I'm not a geophysicist, but what appears to be imminent is this in terms of the revelations, these six seal events are volcanism.
And that appears to be heralded by what in 96 hours will be probably a meteor storm.
Those things will be coincident.
What SciTech in the past described as huge as this kill shot, a solar event of such magnitude that much of Earth will be affected and many people will be killed, we are now able to put into a timeframe because of our work in the last two months on revelations.
Those events, the mark of the beast, for instance, occurs as an event within the seven seal events.
It is one of the events that is described in terms of the opening of the seventh seal.
Also under the seven seal is an event where one-third of Earth's population will die in a horrible catastrophe.
That happens to be the kill shot.
So now we have a timeline, not only an event line, what event follows another, which event follows another, but we have a timeline now too, because the AIDS vaccine will be on the street in just over three years.
That's the mark of the beast, right?
So just about that same time frame will occur this massive solar event.
And now we know that we're talking about 2001 for this kill shot.
More and more scientists now, Ed, are suggesting that the dinosaurs received their own very special kill shot.
I have talked to a number of credentialed PhD types lately who have said that kill shots of the kind you describe, they believe, instead of the Big Bang theory, are responsible for the creation, destruction cycle that mainstream science is now beginning to embrace.
So what you're suggesting is now believed by many.
When we consider how short the generation of man is, it's interesting to be alive at this point in time, to actually bear witness to these kinds of things, that there's the horror and all of the other attendant human emotions.
But nevertheless, it happens to be a very unique, synchronistic time to be alive, I think.
Whatever, what other euphemisms I can find, I'll use...
On a single session, on a single trained session, and you know that we teach this, our company teaches this to the public, a single remote viewer will be 80% accurate the first time around or on any given 45-minute technical remote viewing session.
The 20% inaccuracy we can work out.
I'll give you an example of what I mean by 20% on this report that I mentioned to the Sheriff's Office in Jacksonville, Florida on Maddie Rae Clifton, just so she doesn't die.
She will not have died in vain.
I want to talk about the case.
There wasn't a lot of time.
We only had time to do two sessions before we got a report out.
And we put it out on the street as raw intelligence.
And we knew that it would only be 80% correct.
Now, we have to be right or wrong on the child's death.
We can't say, we've got to be 100% sure on that art.
But the details, you know, the devil was in the details.
We were not 100% right.
For instance, I said in my own remote feeling work that her body is submerged, trapped beneath a metal grate or a wire grid.
In fact, her body was underneath a filled water bed.
I watched Module 1, and I think that it is reasonable for me to tell the audience that anybody out there who's not sure whether you want to do this or not should absolutely order Module 1.
Spend the $49.
Watch that.
And by the time you're done, I guarantee you will know whether you want to proceed or not.
That's what Module 1 is good for.
And it's just $49.
So if you're intrigued with remote viewing, and the fact of the matter is, Ed, that virtually anybody, anybody can do it.
You don't have to be a gifted psychic to do this, right?
We can also be found now in a very high-quality catalog, Tools for Exploration.
We had never intended on putting our tapes out to be distributed by anyone other than ourselves, but this was a very high-quality vehicle, Tools for Exploration.
There's a catalog some of your listeners may be familiar with.
Well, I really do recommend these tapes to people, and most especially for the uninitiated Module 1, watch that, and that will tell you whether you want to proceed or not.
There are some people who should not remote view.
They really shouldn't.
It's better for them, because of their personality and makeup, not to know.
But for the people who do want to know, it's real.
Now, Ed, you mentioned a show I did the other night, which really, really shook up the force out there.
A doctor came on, a very articulate doctor, who told a very articulate story of an encounter with an alien, and he supplied me with photographs of what he called an obelisk and photographs of the alien itself.
I mean, that really bothers me, considering that I could just...
But to consider the satellite that carries my voice, that of Rush, Laura, Michael Reagan, so many others, the HBOs, the Cinemaxes, all gone in a flash with something traveling 50 miles a second or whatever it is.
It's probably at a subconscious or unconscious level, a year, almost a year to the day that you left the air.
And we describe that as something that happened when you laid down in the sarcophagus inside the king's chamber on your trip to Egypt.
Now, remote viewing, as I've said so often before, is direct knowledge.
So specifically, we were looking at the genesis of why you left.
And why we ended up here, I don't know.
But we trust the data, nevertheless.
And I want to remind you that we did that project because of not that you were crying wolf or anything, but we were concerned at SciTech that something was wrong, that there were bad guys possibly after you.
We didn't know how to interpret your announcement.
I did not want to ask you personally.
I just wanted to hunt down the bad guys.
And we end up in our sarcophagus with our bell a year ago and accused James.
I don't understand why we didn't turn it into a project.
In fact, we stopped because you did not appear to be an immediate danger to us.
We didn't have any bad guys to chase like we used to do as a military team.
And so there was no need to, it looked like any further, we would have gotten into your own mind at a deeper level.
And that's personal territory, which ethically, although we have the skill to do that, we've done it before with terrorists and hostages, we would not do it under normal circumstances because I feel that just because we have this skill trained to a fighting edge, it doesn't give us license to violate other people's the privacy of their deep minds.
I'm glad you've got it on the website so this fellow can check it out.
Now, Arch, ask Ed, if we are not going to have the CME, that's a coronal mass ejection next spring, as he's been saying now for some time, is he now backing off on the CME and North Korea nuking the South?
What we were interested in, although we cannot fix ourselves in time very accurately, unless we have some other milestones, some real-world event markers to attach ourselves to, we can still very, very accurately define and describe the next event in certain classes.
So for instance, the next use of a nuclear weapon in anger, where there are mass casualties, an actual weapon of war, that is a very effective target for us.
We can describe that.
When it happens, we're not sure of.
But we know where it's going to be, who will use it against whom, and that we did.
So we described, using that as a target reference, North Korea using a nuclear weapon against South Korea as the next use since 1950, since the late 1940s of a nuclear weapon in anger.
The only prophets that we know were essentially Old Testament prophets generally, some New Testament prophets, people who were shanghaid by some system out there, you might call it God or whatever you choose, whatever word you choose, they were shanghaid, and they were forced.
Information was forced on them.
Their noses were held right in it.
Those are the prophets.
I don't prophesy.
We interpret in terms of contemporary meanings what the Old Testament and New Testament prophets were saying.
That was this project over the last two months.
Specifically, what is wrong with this AIDS vaccine, I don't know.
We can find out.
In fact, I probably should do more work and find out what exactly is wrong with the vaccine.
But that notwithstanding, it still is the information that we came up with, and if one believes the Bible, the mark of the beast, which turns out to be this AIDS vaccine, is going to cause the things that were described in the Bible.
And that is a noisome and grievous plague, some type of a mark that we'll deal with, and the death of infants.
Now, perhaps it reinfects or infects the population.
But I'm just guessing.
We'll do more work and find out.
But right now, it's a moot point.
My specific goal was to get the word on the street.
This was a broad brush attack against a number of topics in revelations.
And we got our foot in the door.
And now we need to do some detail work.
So we can do that.
And I think what we'll do for your next show, after we talk about these, After we take care of the fun stuff, the photos of the obelisk and alien that you have on your website, we'll address further work on the market beast and find out exactly what is defective about this vaccine that will be on the streets in three years.
In experimental psychology, for instance, it's well known that novelty acts as a stimulus.
And it's the same in everyday life.
In fact, as I mentioned before, there appears to be something out there, either a control system or either the collective unconscious that always ups the ante with regards to so-called abductions and UFO phenomena.
For instance, the novelty has to be kept up.
Hollywood knows this.
It isn't good enough just to see a flying saucer anymore.
Nobody would give a flying saucer the time of day in this decade as it did in the late 40s and 50s.
It has to be an abduction by insectoids, and they have to perform a gynecological exam, those kinds of things, because that ups the viewer ratings, you see, and it keeps people interested because it's novel.
So something's happening out there that is using novelty to capture us.
In fact, if that was not a hoax, if those photos of the obelisk and aliens are not a hoax, then indeed I would say that it's a product of this control system.
Absolutely fascinating, and they are, at the very least, I mean, I get a lot of photographs.
I get a lot of stories, Ed.
And I rarely get the kind of story we got the other night with the kind of supporting photographic evidence that we have.
You can't trust computers-generated stuff anymore, but these were 35-millimeter.
Very interesting.
Here's another one.
Question for Major Dames.
On a previous appearance, I believe Major Dames conveyed briefly, without elaborating, that remote viewing investigation into the subject of false prophet had turned up data on what he referred to as a lot of child torture.
What I said was on programs last year that when we or anybody who has been trained in remote viewing uses the search term, this is just like going into a library, think of a universal mind as a library,
going in with a search term or the internet, and using the search term Satan outfalls, depending upon the remote viewer, and the session, session after session after session, describing different actual locations, people, and events.
But in all cases, children are being tortured or murdered.
On 1990, I believe, in 1990, my company did some work for Lawrence Rockefeller and the Human Potential Foundation in Washington, D.C., projecting the effects of planetary ozone depletion.
In fact, I think the contract was called Planetary Ozone Depletion, Projected Consequences and Remedial Technologies, something like that.
And so we did work then.
And I think we saw no amount of human, no technologies would be employed to stop the ozone loss.
As a matter of fact, actually they've done follow-on research to really prove it because they've had eggs that they intentionally screened from the sun and eggs left in the sun.
Lots of insects lay their eggs on the underside of leaves, so they're actually protected.
But other things that expose themselves to the sun in their normal course of life, whether it's a week or a day or a month, like bees, for instance, I've said before, bees will suffer blindness because they can no longer adapt to the high levels of UV in certain areas, belts in the northern hemisphere particularly, and they will die off for that reason alone.
There are a number of events connected with what Revelation describes as the seventh seal.
Anybody can read that for themselves, and there are biblical scholars who can give you the complete rundown.
All that what we're saying is this continuity in terms of the human evolution, this huge solar event that we have been warning your listeners about that is coming, we've now been able to place in time because of remote viewing these milestones in Revelation.
The seventh seal is where one-third of the Earth's population of men, two billion people approximately, will die along with a third of the river waters, a third of the trees, a third of the sea, those kinds of things that we all have heard about.
What we're saying now is because of the linkage between these events and knowing where we are in time, we're able to relate that event to the seven seal, what is described as the seven seal, and say that in approximately in the year 2001, this large event occurs.
We could say that with a far higher confidence level than we've been able to talk about this event before by looking at revelations.
That was a dummy that had, while it was lying on the table, it had circulating fluids coming up through the back so that when it was cut, it could look like trigger pressure was forcing stuff out.
It was a complete fabrication.
It was essentially a sack that was filled with fluids.
Here's somebody who says, in the spiritual community, the kill shot is considered the transition of the age as no one in the spiritual community wants to really say it.
Art, it's a free will universe.
People that don't have the type of information that's in the book Spiritual Ascension Explained will not have the knowledge to make free choice to transition into the new energy of life.
We probably could, but I don't think it would serve any useful purpose.
What could we do with the information as opposed to, say, finding an abductor and an abductee or your missing children?
We're probably better served, or at least technically remote viewing, is better served by doing the tactical level things like getting the bad guy ear down on terra firma than looking at the rest of the universe, which is teeming with life and things that we don't understand.
Although, having said that, I am trying to talk my high school age son into becoming an exobiologist.
And this would be a great tool for people, if he becomes one, for an exobiologist, to point their instruments in certain places where, as a remote viewer, they've discerned light.
unidentified
Pardon me, that work that you've done so far with that, or that you had done in the past, to your mind, that is an existing thing.
The event, yes, as a matter of fact, it was, I'm not a solar physicist, but region 8370, about three weeks ago, during the time when those two pigeon races, those big races on the East Coast occurred and all the pigeons became disoriented that day, it had something to do with region 8370 that was magnetically very active on the sun.
Now, as a remote viewer, we can actually perceive the, in a certain way, we can perceive the effects within the pigeon itself, within the animal.
And in anthropomorphic terms, what I would describe is this way.
The pigeons that were disoriented, they could not see.
It was as if their light was extremely bright.
And at the same time, they had what in human terms would be called a migraine headache.
So it just caused them to fall out of the sky and waited out.
What they were waiting out was this, had its genesis in region 8370, I believe, three weeks ago, which was an active region in the sun, a very strong magnetic storm at that point, which must have affected, linkage-wise, the magnetosphere here on Earth.
And that's the reason the pigeons became disoriented.
unidentified
Oh, great.
The second part, my question is, in doing your review of the Revelations, do you see any landing of an alien race within this time period that you were reviewing, the sixth and the seventh seal?
I think it's referred to in some part of the Revelations.
And here's something I would like to suggest you work on.
A listener writes, and I can verify this, Dear Art, oh my God, I saw, rather heard, a radio report this last week saying that a problem had developed with the Hubble telescope that would require it to be taken offline for two years.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Ark.
Hi, Major Dames.
Hi.
I have a couple of questions for you.
And I'm hoping that I'd heard you talk a little earlier about the possible allergies we may be having on the 17th.
I hope sometime in the program you can recap what you talked about that.
But I have the tapes that I've actually gone through your program, but I have yet to view anything because I'm kind of concerned about what the downside or repercussions to remote viewing might be.
I remember I know that Art mentioned a little earlier that he was concerned about people who would remote view situations like the little girl that was found in keeping your sanity.
One is now that you have knowledge you would never have had before.
You get what you asked for, and you may have an answer that you did not want.
That's number one.
Number two is you're now responsible for doing something, for acting upon the information.
You don't have to act upon it.
But if you now know where, let's say, Osama bin Laden is, or you know who killed John F. Kennedy, then you have a responsibility perhaps to do something with that information.
So yes, it can carry knowledge, it can carry some heavy costs.
unidentified
How receptive do you find people to be to you giving them this information?
I know that that is what the Bible says, but that did not come out of the data in any way when we performed this topical search against this particular search term.
unidentified
Yes.
I have some interesting information that I might like to share with you if you're willing to perhaps listen.
I have an alternative theory about what the mark of the beast might be.
I have a feeling it might be connected to the Y2K crisis.
Today is the first day that I've tried to make some attempts and contacts regarding a dream that I had about a week ago and a vision when I awoke regarding some situations.
I really wouldn't want to get into those since they would affect a vast majority of people.
I'm just curious, Ed, if you are currently working on any remote viewing regarding domestic terrorism.
And in light of the fact that there is some activity regarding Iraq currently underway, is there anything that has got your attention as far as what you might be seeing in the aspects of remote viewing regarding this country as far as terrorism goes?
No, we are not currently working a terrorism project.
The last time we did a search for those kinds of things, we were concerned about the possibility of nuclear terrorism, and that's how we ended up describing the next use of a weapon in what turns out to be the Korean Peninsula.
So the answer is no.
We're not currently working a terrorism problem.
And I don't have any projections vis-a-vis the war that's about to begin in the Mideast.
I was wanting to put some feelers out because I am definitely concerned about that since this dream was before the story broke.
And I have, you know, had even, since I'm not involved directly with anyone, I don't have a title.
I'm a layperson and I'm not interested in gaining any kind of notoriety.
But I have had this kind of experience in the past with a dramatic situation in Oklahoma City that we call unnatural in our business.
But on a bell curve of human potential and human performance psychically, there are people born like yourself that have to deal with what you're dealing with right now.
Many of them have been my students, and I know this problem.
It's not easy to wake up with that kind of knowledge.
We do it as a profession.
You don't have a choice.
Well, it's definitely an interesting field, and with Art Bell's exposure to the remote viewing, that's basically how I discovered it in the first place and knew about it.
I'm a news anchor, and I just wanted to make a comment before my question.
About three months ago, we were covering a story about a United Methodist minister who had married a gay couple, and then President Clinton's pastor, who's at Methodist Minister, said he condoned that, although he couldn't do it himself because he would probably be defranced.
But it's really interesting that I heard that comment tonight.
It made me think about that particular story.
Anyway, my question for the major is that my neighbor and I bought Module 1.
We're having a great time.
We're getting an adrenaline rush of nailing these targets.
I mean, it's really amazing.
Question is, we want to take the next step.
My buddy said, if I got through tonight, asked the major, I want to remote view something 24 hours from now.
I want to remote view myself looking at a picture that he has.
So I'm sitting at the table with my pen and my paper, and I'm like, well, wait a minute, how do I do this?
So how do I remote view myself 24 hours from now without the envelope in front of me?
Joe is a natural psychic that was on my team in the military.
I was operations and training officer.
And he did not learn remote viewing.
He was just a natural psychic that we used.
In the earlier days before this breakthrough technique was developed in a laboratory that allowed people to learn this, that allowed it to be teachable.
We used natural psychics in altered states.
unidentified
I'm about a psychic is synthetic motor oil, by the way.
We never supported the issue of a companion, ever.
What we said was that when remote viewers, in fact, we knew that the companion was a doctored photograph.
The reason we knew that is when you circle that so-called companion in the photos and you remote view it, you find yourself not on a ball of ice and rock in the vacuum of space, but you find yourself in a photographic lab here on Terra Firma.
If you put the circle around Hailfottle Comet proper, you're out in space.
Now, that was the thing that we did not want to talk about.
In fact, I've thought about what you've said about, you know, when I mentioned to you before as a businessman, this is the kiss of death.
Because this is about as bizarre a thing as one would imagine.
And I think that if I had it to do over again, I may not have mentioned that.
And yet, we stand by the work.
There's nothing we could do about it.
It was simply there.
And this cylinder was filled with something that eventually disseminated itself in the atmosphere on Earth, what turned out to be as close as we can describe it as a fungal accelerator.
But one could attribute that to El Niño or La Niña.
So it's hard to, this is why the ground truth type of tactical operations that we do are far more important for people to be, for people to learn technical remote viewing and to realize it as a tool than attempting to describe structures on Mars and Halbop cylinders and all those kinds of things that are out and about, but for which ground truth is very difficult.
And at the pain of being repetitive, though it was a long time ago, Color, fully two months before the Heaven Gate suicides, we clearly marked real photograph and fraud photograph and put them on the website and called constant attention to them nearly every day for two months and did a number of shows, real and fraud.
University of Hawaii photograph, doctored photograph.
unidentified
What about the Japan photograph and the London photograph?
Number one, with the latest news item is Hussein, could you possibly or would you consider possibly trying to get the coordinates of where the actual Hussein is?
And maybe we could drop maybe a half a dozen cruise missiles.
The only work that our company did, and I think I faxed, this is on our website in our special project section.
Also, I faxed a copy of this to you about four or five months ago.
We established where Saddam Hussein was hiding his largest biological warfare agent production facility.
He's hiding it in a fertilizer plant north of the city of Mosul.
And we did that for the Defense Intelligence Agency.
And you can see exactly where that plant is.
We have a map of the area, and we have our report on our website.
That's all the work we did as a prelude to what's about to happen.
There's a problem with Saddam Hussein that we experienced with him, both him and Muhammad Qaddafi in the Libyan war.
The problem is this.
Saddam Hussein many times is escorted by children.
And only a totalitarian dictatorship or worse would drop bombs on children knowing, wittingly.
And I don't care how much we might pretend to hate this man or want to kill him, the United States of America is simply not going to drop bombs on children.
And he travels with children.
So it doesn't matter where we fix him, where his position is, or his next position will be.
We're not going to do that wittingly.
The casualties that he lost a stepson or a nephew, if I'm not mistaken, in the last war, those were inadvertent.
We didn't intentionally seek to kill non-combatants, particularly children.
But it is wearing thin on all of us, I think, Ed, this continual half-assed approach to Iraq, a few cruise missiles, a slap on the hand.
Even the Russians, who have been pretty tight with the Iraqis, have finally given up and they wrote a letter saying, look, we basically wash our hands of this.
You guys are on your own.
It's going too far.
Either we're going to have to go in there and do something really serious or we're going to have to come up with a new plan.
But this constant year-after-year threat of war, something's got to change.
That's comment, I guess.
So there's nothing that you can tell us from remote viewing about the resolution ultimately of this.
Okay, if you took away paper currency from everybody in this country and made it all electronic, you would know every single purchase that everybody made.
You would have complete control of where they're going, what their buying trends are.
I have a couple questions that come from my Christian background, and they are as follows.
And I was wondering, as far as the remote viewing, and even if it wasn't in that capacity, have You an opinion you could express concerning the following two things of the King James Version of the Bible, one being the two witnesses and the other topic being the, quote, rapture of the church.
The event that is described in Revelations as killing one-third of the population of the world and the event that Sitech in the past has described as being a solar event that does extreme damage to the Earth appear to be the same event,
and that that event occurs probably based upon where, based upon the timelines for the fielding of an AIDS vaccine, that that event occurs in 2001.
unidentified
I see.
Well, that's absolutely fascinating.
I think I'm going to have to get into my Bible a little bit more and see what's going on with this.
Well, I think what we would like to do on my end is to look at these two witnesses, because that's the two witnesses that first appear and begin to preach, and they preach according to Revelations for something like 1,260 days, I think.
This is an important event in space-time, and we want to get detail on that event.
unidentified
I have just one more comment concerning that, please.
I had heard from other Bible teachers in my studies here that the ancient calendar compared to the one that we're operating on now could be as much as three to seven years off in its original origin, if you follow me.
I agree, and that was all the more reason why finding out whether or not we are in the end times, as described by Jesus Christ and modern-day man, wondering about that, where we were in time.
And ergo, the importance of that one term that doesn't appear in Revelations, but other places in the Bible where Christ himself describes the abomination of desolation.
When you see it standing where it ought not, then you will know the end times.
So that was a key passage for us, and we took a lot of time to investigate what that actually meant.
And, you know, Art, and Major Dames, I have kind of a question and a rebuttal for that once small question that was asked a while back from your Faxer about the rock.
And, Major Dames, I was wondering if you would agree with this, that to that man that asked that question, I would say to him that that unmovable rock question is actually represented by his disbelief in God.
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It is an event of such a magnitude that for all intents and purposes, it appears to be fixed.
Now, don't get me wrong here.
I'm a firm believer in prayer.
And I don't think there's anything more powerful in terms of the human realities of prayer.
But I'm also a practical man.
I'm a very practical man.
And it is not practical to think that collectively we've got it together enough to stop the war that's about to occur in the Mideast, those kinds of things, much less a physical geophysical event or earthquakes, things like that, that's on the horizon.
So I'm pretty much a pessimist along those lines.
unidentified
But you think there could be no possibility of it being changed?
Well, I believe in a grander force, and I think that that force seems to indicate to us, let me put it a technical way, if we can, as remote viewers, perceive an event, it is almost a fait accompli.
There hasn't been a case where we discern something that's coming, and it hasn't happened because of prayer.
It's almost as if it already happened in another reality, and we're just catching up with it here in a physical, material sense.
unidentified
I understand.
I have obtained Module 1, and after, I admit I haven't actually started it yet.
I've reviewed the tape several times, but I've ordered Module 2.
SciTech acknowledged receipt of the order on July 2nd by email, and although I've emailed back on the orders inquiry line, I haven't yet received Module 2.
Is there some other step you could recommend by which I could see what my order status is for Module 2?
So, would that area where Noah's Ark be a safe haven?
And under what circumstances it would be interesting to note under which you could remote view the circumstances leading up to, and under what circumstances he would bring it out after the tribulation and put it on world display?
The only thing that we could do that would be easy to do and that we could and would be effective or practical use of remote viewing would be to remote view the location, the present location of Noah's Ark, assuming that it's intact.
In fact, we have done that.
We've done some cursory sessions years ago, and as the training officer for your nation's military team, I gave that to my advanced students in the unit.
And the information that we put together indicates that Noah's Ark is intact in a cave in Jordan, a cave that has not been opened since.
We don't allow last names on the air, so if you would, let's try it again.
You're only Mike from Mike from Bellevue, Nebraska.
Okay.
unidentified
And my question is, has he looked into the implant chip as being part of the mark of the beast?
I heard on your show a while back where somebody had bought groceries and they scanned the hand and it rang up on the cash register and supposedly deducted money right from their account.
That is the very excellent thing about technical remote viewing.
You don't have to wonder anymore.
You can know.
And what we do is we take the phrase, we take the target, and we find out what it means in terms of we don't speculate like the church has had to do for 20 centuries plus about what this means, about what the mark means.
Anybody that's trained in this technique can download the information and its meanings in terms of contemporary meanings.
And I'm quite aware of all the speculation that is involved with the number 666 and the mark of the beast.
But when we remote view it, everybody gets the same thing.
It's not a chip.
It's not a barcode.
Those kinds of things.
Well, it is what it is.
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I think on our show, they also said something about this chip actually being called the beast.
But I was just going to mention that in the book of Revelation, there is only one person who is prophesied to be able to break the seven seals.
And that person is known as the Lamb in the book of Revelation.
And I would submit to you, folks, that I know that person, knew that person while he was alive, and we would have a lot to talk about if we could ever get at some length with each other.
I have no way of knowing whether you really knew the Lamb or not.
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All right.
Well, how about the passage in the book of Revelation where it says that the only person who can open the seven seals is the one who is prophesied, who is the Lamb.
Well, until next time, whenever that is, Ed, it has been, I would like to say a pleasure, but some of the information is not too pleasurable, but being with you certainly is.