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Nov. 13, 1998 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Ed Dames - Remote Viewing. Richard Hoagland - Pegasi Hoax

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	Rockies and you're listening to AM 1500 KSTV.
	From the high desert and the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening or good
	morning as the case may be, wherever you may be, as there's a lot of area out there we
	cover.
	I'm just a little girl.
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	Thomas, south into South America, north all the way to the pole, and worldwide on the Internet, Soon, with streaming video as well.
	Thanks to Intel, thanks to Broadcast.com as always.
	Boy, we've got a lot going on tonight.
	It's gonna be a big show.
	Now, Friday the 13th, brought as advertised, the Candle in the Dark and Snuff Candle Awards.
	See, bent wick.
	I got bent wick.
	Actually, the snuff candle is what I got.
	They applauded PBS's Scientific American Frontiers, actually, the show, for scientific examination of pseudoscience and the paranormal.
	Also, they gave the award to a group that goes after the paranormal, huh?
	And then it goes on, criticizes radio host Art Bell for paranormal and conspiracy mystery mongering.
	And so, uh, this, uh, press conference occurred in Los Angeles earlier today.
	And I, just before airtime, I got a fax from Ed Bannon, uh, who was at the press conference today.
	And, uh, of course I wasn't there.
	I sent a statement.
	As a matter of fact, I did send a statement.
	And you know what I said to them?
	I said, here, read this.
	They said, we'll read a statement from you if you wish.
	So I sent them a statement which simply said, A mind should not be so open that the brains fall out.
	However, it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached.
	On behalf of those with the smallest remaining open aperture, I accept with honor.
	I understand they did read that at the press conference.
	But since we've got somebody who was really there covering the press conference, Ed Bannon.
	Ed, hi there!
	Hi, Eric.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Los Angeles.
	Well, Hollywood, actually.
	Oh, you're... Okay, so you were right there.
	It was convenient for you to go.
	You are... You're doing some sort of... I mean, why were you there?
	You're doing documentary work, I guess, on the paranormal?
	Yes, I'm involved with this producer that is doing this independent product... project of...
	A documentary on paranormal phenomena.
	Okay, so you said ABC television was also there?
	Yes, Channel 7 from here.
	Channel 7, alright.
	Well, so it was well attended and they presented the award, I'm sure, and roasted me properly, I'm sure.
	Oh yes, very well done.
	Very well done, huh?
	Okay.
	How would you describe, other than the roasting, which we don't have to go over because I know what they said, you tried to ask a few questions, I guess, toward the end or what?
	Yes.
	There were three very distinguished gentlemen that ran that article that I sent you.
	They both got up, or all three of them got up and went on quite lengthy in a speech, which altogether took about an hour.
	And at the end of this hour, The gentleman, the producer that I was with, Ted, asked, he said, well, can we have questions now?
	And ABC was already, as soon as the awards were handed out, they were gone.
	So, and I'm not sure how many people that were left behind me because we were right up in the front.
	So Ted asked a couple of questions and then... What did he ask?
	Well, he asked us a question about, uh, their whole thing was trying to equal time for science.
	And so, uh, he put to them that the, uh, that science was, uh, also responsible for, uh, uh, the science of nuclear energy.
	Sure.
	And you see what that got us.
	It got us a bomb that, uh, you know, killed a lot of people.
	And, uh, and now we have a real, another, a bad pollution, uh, problem that we have all this radioactive waste and there's no way to get rid of it.
	You know, there's science, and... Well, no, that's not science.
	They said that's technology.
	That's not science?
	No, that's technology.
	That's the application of science.
	Albert Einstein had something to do with that, didn't he?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Just random thought there.
	But at that point, that got my hackles up, and I said, wait a minute.
	I said, what's the difference between that and Art Bell?
	I said, you're saying that Art's being unfair because he's taking a one-sided view and putting down science and all that.
	And I said, here, turn around and turn your back on the results of science.
	I don't understand the difference.
	And then there was another question, and then all of a sudden there was no more time.
	They ran out of time!
	At a news conference.
	They ran out of time after just one, two, three questions?
	Right.
	And then I, after... Did you get to see my work?
	Oh, yes.
	In fact, I have to confess that I was so impressed with it that I had Ted take a picture of me holding it.
	It's a very classy looking plaque.
	I'll save that for him.
	Well, I'm looking forward to receiving it.
	They claim they will send it to me.
	We'll see if it shows up.
	Well, I'm going back tomorrow.
	There's a couple more interviews that we want to get.
	And I don't know if I'm going to stay around.
	I tend to get in arguments and these kind of things.
	Well, you know, Ed, I'm really glad you were there and you could come and report on it tonight.
	It would be interesting to see what ABC... You know, Art, there's one other thing, though, I have to say.
	Sure.
	You know, the person that got the Good Award, the Candle in the Dark Award, was Scientific American, or that show that they, you know, they sponsored that's produced on PBS.
	PBS is Scientific American Frontiers.
	Right.
	Okay, so which brought to mind a statement that you had read about the Wright Brothers
	and flying.
	Oh yes.
	And so I put this to him.
	I said, well, you know, in 1903 the Wright Brothers, you know, started flying, made their
	first flights.
	And then in 1905, this magazine, Scientific American, there was this article about why
	would anybody pay any attention to this?
	Because everybody knows that you can't fly anything heavier than air.
	I'm glad you remembered that, my friend.
	I mean, that got some raised eyebrows.
	Hmm, are you sure about that?
	Well, we'll have to look into that.
	Well, now you've got to remember, this is PBS Scientific American Frontiers, for scientific examination of pseudoscience in the driven all the way, but I nevertheless accept with great
	honor and look forward to my plaque and I will post it proudly on the internet.
	Oh, and the other thing, they would welcome to be on your show.
	You're right.
	We'll see.
	I certainly would have them on.
	It would be fun to have them on, in fact.
	So it would be, what does it say, shooting fish in a barrel for you?
	Thanks for the report, my friend.
	OK, and like I said, we'll send you that tape.
	Oh, you actually have a tape of the whole thing?
	Yeah, we taped it.
	I can't wait.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Sure.
	See you later.
	All right.
	Coming up in a moment, we've got the latest on EQ Peg.
	The hoax, question mark.
	We've got the latest on the comet headed our way.
	And a whole lot more.
	Richard Hoagland around the corner.
	At the top of the next hour, it's Ed Dames, earning his title tonight, I guarantee, of Doctor Doom.
	R5151.
	By the way, everybody, if you want to see the latest on the EQPEG hoax, Question mark.
	You're going to want to go to my website.
	Keith has new hot stuff up there.
	Trails for you to follow to find the hoaxer yourself.
	Well, now, to Richard C. Hoagland, advisor one time to NASA.
	Still a poster boy today.
	Investigator, science investigator.
	He's won the Angstrom Science Award for the work he has done.
	He's quite a guy, and he's got a lot to talk about.
	Richard, welcome.
	Good morning, Art.
	Good morning.
	And good morning to New York.
	Yes, indeed.
	Thank you, Curtis.
	Where do you want to start?
	Oh, hell, I don't know.
	Let's give him the up-to-date word on the EQ peg hoax question mark.
	I'm still not sure.
	We need to really put a question mark around this hoax business, because as I've said from the beginning, it's more complicated.
	And every evidence we have tonight is it's more complicated.
	It is so easy to dismiss this.
	You know, we found the culprit.
	We have the circumstantial evidence.
	We have the IP fingerprints.
	You know, end of subject, drop dead.
	It's all up there on the website.
	And strangely, people are blaming some people are blaming you and even me for perpetrating this hoax when clearly the evidence is Well, let's start with the specifics.
	Earlier this week, a couple of days ago, there was a very enterprising, I use that term advisedly, individual from North Carolina who sent us, you and Keith, a fax claiming he had found a trail of numbers, the headers on these various messages and websites.
	And that got Keith going and looking very assiduously and going back and asking for more information.
	And as of, I guess, yesterday, Keith had posted on both the websites, Enterprise and Art Bell, a provisional trail, an electronic paper trail, showing that the real Poldor had posted from his own computer on some of the same sites that the fake Poldor earlier in the month had posted.
	Oh, yeah, so really, so in other words, Paul Dorr was adjusting headers himself.
	Apparently.
	And when Keith queried him by email... He admitted it.
	He admitted it.
	Now, he said he had a good excuse.
	He was trying to, what was it, bait or nag or goad, I guess... The real hoaxer.
	The real hoaxer.
	I must say, you know, remember I have this middle initial in my name.
	Have you ever, have you ever faked a header?
	Of course not.
	Me either.
	I just thought I'd drop that in.
	The problem I have with Mr. Doar, I have someone in London who has been trying now for a while to get an interview face-to-face.
	Yes.
	And he will not grant this person the interview.
	Really?
	Well, I invited Mr. Doar onto this program to clear everything up and he dodged that bullet and instead went on somebody else's program.
	I'm beginning to definitely see an agenda here.
	Well, in his private communication with a confidant who I will not reveal because I don't do that, when he was given a list of questions, about 20 questions, I thought that number was intriguing.
	It is.
	Question number two was... 19.5 could have been better.
	Thank you, okay.
	I was thinking of the old radio show, frankly.
	Remember 20 questions?
	Yes.
	Ever wonder why it was 20?
	Never mind, we're not going to go there.
	All right.
	The second answer was, who do you think did this, and he named me.
	Paul Doerr named me.
	Now, this is a man in England who has never met me, never heard me, doesn't know me, probably shouldn't know anything of what I've done, and out of the blue, he is naming me.
	Yeah, but see, the trail doesn't lead to you, nor does it lead to me.
	It started on this Geocities site, Then the BBC is what really lit it off.
	They ran a story in London.
	Dr. David Whitehouse is a science correspondent for BBC Online.
	That's right, that's right.
	Who I, by the way, have been in touch with.
	And who is still prepared to keep an open mind on the signal.
	I know, I know, there are a lot of people... This is very important news, everybody.
	That the reporter, the PhD astronomer who started this publicly, by posting, you know, Paul Doerr's original material, is still prepared in terms of communication with Enterprise to keep an open mind on the reality of a signal, a real radio signal.
	Now that I found very interesting because you put that together with SESTROSTAC and what's going on on the SETI website and you put that together with some other evidence that we'll talk about in a few minutes and frankly it's still an open question whether we really have a signal.
	Notwithstanding, we have some remarkable evidence of a, quote, hoax on the internet.
	They are not one and the same, and this is something everybody should keep in mind tonight.
	So back to Mr. Doar.
	What Mr. Doar has done on his own website is as interesting as attacking me in this set of private communications.
	Because at the top of his website, he lists a series of links.
	And the first link is to Enterprise.
	Now, why in the world would Mr. Doar, who claims we're behind this, perpetrating this absurdity...
	Why would he link to your site?
	Why would he be linking to the Enterprise website?
	It's one thing to call us names.
	It's another thing to provide an easy access so people can read for themselves what we are putting out for the public.
	In other words, it's not what they're saying, Art.
	It's what they're doing.
	Remember, my model is We have a real signal.
	We have a confused disinformational trail by intelligence agencies at war within themselves or with each other.
	And what someone is trying to do is to, with incredible plausible deniability, point to the folks that are following the trail.
	Well, I don't rule a damn thing out anymore.
	I'm ready for about anything.
	So, that's kind of where that stands tonight.
	I know that Keith has some new information on my website, presumably yours.
	Michael Thoreau of Borderlands, who has been also following this, has a new candidate for the, quote, Hope shirt.
	Right, and people should go to my website right away and follow the trail and check it out for yourself, folks.
	We're going to eventually get this, folks.
	Torture him.
	Well, let's be careful of what we term it because hoax is not what I think we're dealing with.
	Disinformation?
	How about disinformation agent?
	Disinformation is much more appropriate.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, anyway, so that's where that is.
	We have so much more to cover.
	As you know, you well know, the Leonid Storm cometh.
	Yes.
	Monday night, Tuesday morning, I guess, will be the best of it for me.
	In America, we're not really going to get the best of it, are we?
	No, at 11 a.m.
	is actually when we pass through the peak of the stream.
	This is a very narrow band of dust and grit and gravel flying at 50 miles per second past the Earth, because we're meeting it almost like head-on, like driving into a snowstorm.
	So during broad daylight, 11 a.m., your time, my time, it will peak.
	But in the hours afterwards and in the hours before, as we build up to the peak, it might be significant.
	Now, there is a place on Earth where, if you were there, you would have an incredible view.
	It's the Far East.
	It's China, Japan, Thailand.
	We have arranged, Keith and I have arranged, to have live links on the Internet through your site and Enterprise During those several days leading up to and afterwards the peak.
	Streaming video, folks.
	You'll be able to see streaming video, you'll be able to see snapshots.
	We're going to put up multiple sites, mirror sites.
	NASA has set a team to the northern part of Thailand to their highest mountain.
	We're going to be linked through one of the major newspapers, which is cooperated.
	They're even sending a balloon up to 10,000 feet, Richard.
	And there are two aircraft, an Electra and a KC-135.
	Very similar to a jet aircraft that I kind of borrowed from the Air Force back when I was Cronkite Science Advisor to chase an eclipse up the east coast of the U.S.
	This aircraft is being outfitted with LiDAR and radar and special cameras and video and it will be orbiting over off Japan I believe under the kind of zero point where if you were there in that airplane looking up you might have the most extraordinary sight and again there'll be links to all this And we'll do our best, and the Bell site will do its best to provide, through good old Scotty Rowland, live links as they occur.
	Boy, is that going to be something.
	Now, when we come back after the bottom of the hour, there is an unfortunate, apparent link between the Leonids that are going to occur, Galaxy 5, the very satellite that I use to reach the radio stations nationwide and beyond, And, sadly, even the Hubble Telescope.
	And so I think we ought to briefly cover all of that when we get back.
	How's that?
	I do too.
	All right, good.
	Stay right there.
	And there's much, much more for us to cover.
	Because you see, there is an astronomer in Bangkok, in Thailand, who says, That's about three more times round for this comet.
	The one that we're going to pass through the debris of.
	And it's going to be a dead center hit on Earth.
	A hit that he suggests could possibly extinguish all life.
	This is a respected astronomer, and he said he thinks NASA knows about it.
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	1 by 2 and get 1 free alright here. We go back now to Richard C. Hoagland and let us now move on to a couple of
	other Possible implications of the Leonid meteor storm that is
	getting ready to grace our skies Richard, I'm carried on Galaxy 5.
	Along with Rush, and Laura, and Michael Reagan, and many others, HBO, Cinemax, all of these movie services, about 30% of the nation's telephone service, and on and on and on.
	Galaxy 5 is really, really important.
	And right in the middle of the Leonid Meteor Storm, they are going to do what?
	Well, we saw a posting a few days ago on some website, and unfortunately, when I went back to look for it, it went away.
	And I didn't really think much of it because I thought, you know, the web, the internet is absolutely awash with stuff you can't check.
	That's true.
	Then someone faxed me, and I got more intrigued because they had seen something similar.
	Then I, you know, forwarded some material over to Peter Gersten, who runs Cause.
	Right.
	And he got one of his sources, who he knows, so there's a paper trail, who had a confidant located in the black ops, you know, area.
	To actually confirm that there appears to be a genuine Y2K test scheduled for Galaxy 5 on Monday night during the height of the Leonid storm.
	Why would they do that?
	Well, the theory is that the computer is going to fail.
	And that if it does fail, they can simply blame the Leonids for the thing going down.
	Now, none of this makes any sense unless you think like certain folks do.
	Let's assume that we're dealing with not weirdness, but simple greed.
	Let's assume that you are Hughes, or whoever makes the satellite, and you think that maybe you're going to have a serious Y2K problem coming up, starting maybe in April of next year.
	And you want to test the computers to see if they will be compatible with the rollover.
	Right.
	If you don't want to be hit by enormous insurance claims, in other words, if you want to blame it on an act of God and not an act of man, Then maybe you would conduct such a test during the height of an event, 33-year event, where if something goes wrong, you can always claim, whoops, the Leonids did it.
	Well, yeah, but if you conduct it intentionally then, there's an act of man.
	But if it's not supposed to get out that you did it.
	I see.
	It's a secret.
	Great, so if I'm suddenly off the air, Monday night, Tuesday morning, If D5 is off the air, if your telephone calls don't get through, you're going to know what happened.
	Well, that's the benign interpretation.
	The more sinister interpretation is that this is being arranged at this time because someone wants Galaxy 5 down and they know that between that test and the Leonids, there's a pretty good chance, I think 90% was quoted in this communication, that it will go down.
	Great.
	And you and a lot of other stuff is suddenly off the air.
	Gone.
	We're gone.
	And it will take weeks to reposition a backup bird because they have to move them around from geosync where they're parked.
	And the transponder space is so limited upstairs that there's going to be a fight, a pecking order as to who gets back on the air.
	And isn't it interesting that we're about to enter a major war in the Middle East?
	And we may not be able to watch it.
	You know what somebody else said?
	Here's something for you to contemplate, Richard.
	You're right.
	Generally, you know, we attack Iraq under a new moon, when there's not a lot of light, right?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	If we were to attack Iraq with our super-accurate GPS-guided missiles, and the Leonids were to suddenly take out the GPS constellation, or enough of it, Our well-guided missiles wouldn't be guided at all.
	No, this is really the height of bizarreness because we are now about to enter an event that has not occurred for 33 years.
	We have 600 plus satellites, scientific and navigation and military and reconnaissance and all that upstairs.
	CNN has been running all day updates on the status of the military side of things.
	And they're not very sanguine.
	I have seen Air Force documentation, I've seen NORAD alerts.
	The NORAD people were forecasting privately, we got ahold of one of their memos, a 20% kill rate for the satellites.
	That would be devastating, not just economically, but if you're in the middle of a major war and you're relying on high-tech weaponry that requires GPS.
	In other words, is anybody in charge anymore?
	Doesn't he think anymore?
	I'm going to be really upset if I'm not on the air Monday night.
	Really upset.
	All right.
	So let's leave that... Well, let's go down and handle what you're about to bring up next, which is our friends over at NASA.
	Well, Hubble.
	Yeah.
	Tell me about Hubble.
	I mean, this seems just beyond the pale.
	It is beyond belief.
	Uh, this is absolutely checkable.
	You go to the STI website, the Space Telescope Institute website.
	Yes.
	And you start at the top.
	Yes.
	And you scroll down, you can actually find the link to the NASA sites on Enterprise.
	And?
	There is a press release that says, very proudly, that during the height of the Leonid storm Monday night, Hubble will still be on the job, photographing a little quasar.
	Little, I mean, come on, it's huge.
	It's 10 billion light years out.
	It's been there for a while.
	It will be there in a day or two.
	What the hell are they doing?
	They're going to open up the Hubble telescope, leaving that large telescope open, and all it would take is one grain of sand coming at how many miles per hour?
	50 miles per second.
	Per second, excuse me.
	In all honesty, they are claiming they're going to turn the telescope around, ascend toward the meteor stream.
	Can we say that on radio?
	Yeah.
	And that the mirror and the heavy back end of the telescope will protect the rest of the telescope.
	The problem is that when particles hit spacecraft at these velocities, they vaporize.
	They create what's called a plasma.
	The plasma then becomes an electrical conductor through which high voltage currents can arc Frying the electronics.
	This is why you turn off your computers and TVs and unplug them during a lightning storm.
	Oh, I've learned that the hard way.
	Exactly.
	You've been hit, what, twice?
	What NASA is going to do is the equivalent of leaving everything on during the most incredible thunderstorm you can imagine.
	In space.
	And they have a $2 billion unique national facility.
	And for some reason, the head of the institute, the director, has turned over 10 hours of his discretionary time To a group of astronomers who proposed during this crucial period that they absolutely had to have spectroscopic data and images of this quasar, which will be there two days later.
	Now these are the same folks, remember, who would not take pictures of the center of Hale-Bopp.
	From the shadow of the earth, even after it had been proven to be safe, because they didn't want to risk the telescope?
	I remember that so well, Richard, so well.
	They admitted what you said.
	They said, well, yes, we could do it, but we don't want to risk getting that close to the sun.
	They turned down one of their own.
	The guy at Johns Hopkins, who had actually proved it before, had used the technique.
	And it was wanting closer images of Nailbop.
	That's right.
	There's something bizarre here, and I must tell you that I do not have a good feeling about this one, alright?
	The bad feeling, which comes from a line from Star Wars, is that if you wanted an excuse to make Hubble go away, to take it over and privately use it to look at something when no one would look over your shoulder, you set this up so that the public and the astronomical community thinks that, oops, It got fried in the meteor storm because somebody was stupid.
	And then that gives you a wonderful excuse to take it offline, and someone with another control center simply uses it, and the Goddard folks, the NASA folks, the honest folks, will never know.
	Now, why do I think this is more than likely?
	Because three sources that I know, one of them was Stan Tennant.
	You know, he's been a guest on your show.
	Oh, I know Stan.
	He saw news reports two days ago announcing, one of them was on the Discover Channel, Announcing that the Hubble was being taken down for two years for repairs, and that was how long the next scheduled shuttle mission for repair would take, so it was going to be two years.
	Two years of no Hubble.
	Now, how do you get a news report on a failure which has not yet occurred?
	The first thing I did was to go to the site to see if this in fact was true, and there's no press release.
	But these people, who of course had no reason to make this up, saw this news story.
	Is it possible that we're getting a leak?
	A heads up.
	That the press release has been written.
	The excuse is already in place.
	This will be issued Tuesday morning after the debacle of Hubble being blown apart by Leontids Monday night because
	someone forgot to close the door and turn off the electronics and power down the high voltage so it can
	weather the storm.
	Um, I'm speechless and that's an unusual condition for me.
	And then let me ask the $64 question.
	Yes.
	What do you think Hubble might want to be pointed toward that someone would not want us to see?
	Well, can I guess?
	Something perhaps coming from the direction of EQ Pegasus?
	You got it.
	Yeah, well, that's a pretty good guess, huh?
	Pretty good guess.
	Now, there's one... Now, again, this is as circumstantial as Michael Thoreau's finding of the so-called Pegasus Hoaxer, right?
	Right.
	But in this game, it is circumstantial evidence.
	You put the dots together, and I want to say something editorial about people who are absolutely furious at you and me and a few other folks who claim, you know, they call me Richard Hoaxland, which, frankly, is getting a little bit boring, all right?
	All I try to do is to connect patterns.
	That's what science is.
	It's looking at patterns.
	I am not saying that we have found truth.
	I'm saying we have a process for figuring the way to find the truth.
	What I want people to do when I make these points and present evidence on the air is
	to follow the trail.
	Duplicate what we have done.
	Look in the places we have looked and come to your own darn conclusions.
	Do not listen to me as some kind of damn guru sitting on the radio.
	I do not.
	I really try to do the same thing, Richard.
	I present information.
	I assume my audience is comprised mainly of adults who can decide about things for themselves.
	Notice I just said I am a scientist.
	Yes.
	You know why I say that tonight?
	Because on the official NASA SETI website, I'm listed as a scientist.
	No.
	Which brings us to Thailand.
	Talk about Thailand for a minute.
	Alright.
	We have from all sorts of, um, sources.
	It's on my website.
	You can check it out right now if you want to.
	We have information that a Thai astronomer is predicting based on, and he's a well-respected astronomer too, ran on UPIAP, ran in The Nation and on and on and on, that the big show we're about to get from the Leonids is going to be more of a show in the year 2097 because the comet is going to impact directly with Earth.
	Well, what we know is that this guy has pretty good credentials.
	Oh, yes.
	He was dean of the science department.
	You're quoting a recent movie, an ELE, an ELE, an extinction level event in 2097.
	What do we know?
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, what we know is that this guy has pretty good credentials.
	Oh, yes.
	He was dean of the science department.
	He has a PhD in astronomy.
	What is remarkable is that he claims in 100 years that Tuttle, Temple Tuttle, is going
	to smack dab into the earth, and it's about a mile, mile and a half in size, and it would
	produce close to an extinction level event.
	What is remarkable is that a few days ago on November 6th the National Science Foundation issued a press release describing the KC-135 and the Electra outfitted with special instrumentation to orbit under the Center of the Storm in the Earth's Atmosphere on the night side over of Japan?
	Yes.
	The title of their press release says, Research Aircraft Fly Below Once-in-a-Century Leonid Meteor Storm.
	Now that's not true.
	The Temple-Tuttle orbit and the Earth's orbit are synchronous such that every 33 years we come back around and have a major event.
	You know, 98, 99, 66, 33, etc.
	Um, so how can the National Science Foundation make a huge major gaffe like that?
	Maybe it's not a gaffe.
	Maybe it's, and people are going to yell out there, I can hear them even now, maybe it's a message.
	Because what the astronomer from Thailand puts in his story is that NASA in fact knows this is going to occur.
	Well he said he thinks NASA knows and has tried to do something about it.
	Right.
	Now, if that were not true, that's one thing.
	If it is true, and this is another way of kind of speaking to us between the lines.
	In other words, I have a press release from the NSF which is blatantly untrue.
	Until a few hours later, or a few days later, we get this interesting data point from Thailand of an astronomer using JPL's own data, NASA's own data at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, to calculate an impact.
	What if this has nothing to do, Art, with Temple Tuttle at all?
	What if, in fact, it is an indication else that they know which is coming?
	You were interrupted there, I think, by a call waiting.
	You said it's an indication of something else.
	What?
	What if they know there's something else coming?
	And that's the reason.
	And that's the reason why Hubble is supposed to go dark.
	Now, why would I think any of this?
	Because when you go to the Thailand website, link through Enterprise and link through Art Bell, You find two related links in the nation's story, the newspaper out of Bangkok.
	Right.
	One is to your site, artbell.com.
	Yeah, they link to us now.
	Isn't that bizarre?
	And one to Enterprise.
	Why would they do that?
	And the other to Enterprise.
	And what do we have on the Enterprise website?
	But the Oh My God Pegasus story, which also involves details and data points relating to potential asteroid cometary impact.
	Oh, look, if we could figure all this out, we'd know who killed Kennedy.
	Well, give us a while.
	The point is, you're involved in a high level game.
	Let's call it what it is.
	It is a game.
	Now, the games have rules.
	The problem is that if you're an outsider, you don't know what the rules are because
	you're not supposed to be in the game.
	So, you're not supposed to be in the game.
	What was it Sagan said years ago?
	Sir, it's not whether you're right or wrong, you're not even in the conversation.
	I have the distinct feeling that there is going around us tonight a high-level conversation.
	And we are outsiders looking in, attempting to figure out the conversation, and we're not supposed to.
	But some of the players want us to be included.
	And so they provide stupid, quote, hoaxes that break apart so easily so we can go in the door and begin to figure out the clues.
	And then there are ancillary little intellectual midgets out there taking shots at you and taking shots at me, trying to blame us for all of this.
	Well, I don't even worry about midgets, okay?
	This is serious stuff, because if we are dealing with potential, you know, Armageddons, and if NASA folks know something's coming, And if someone wants to take Hubble down publicly so they can look at it privately, then it's all our business, midgets notwithstanding.
	Well now, be nice.
	I like midgets.
	I said intellectual midgets.
	These people stand tall, but they're not represented that way in gray matter.
	Okay, I understand.
	So anyway...
	What a mess!
	I mean, what a mess!
	What else can go wrong?
	What's next?
	Locusts, I presume?
	No, what's next is that we have serious evidence tonight, reports, which we're going to try to check out tomorrow, of this military activity that I'm talking about in Arizona.
	Yes, I know you have reports.
	We think we have found the staging area.
	I'm not going to be any more specific.
	I want people, if they see anything in Arizona unusual, Report it, alright?
	Now, bear in mind, everybody, that we're cranking up to go spank Saddam again.
	No doubt, to not get him, but just to throw away a few million dollars worth of crews and missiles.
	So, activity could be related to that, because there is mobilization going on all over the place, but... The problem is that these reports are coming from places where, A, it isn't an army base, you know, military, navy, air force, whatever.
	And two, you wouldn't assemble equipment in the middle of an Arizona desert to go to Iraq.
	Kind of a long trek, without an airfield.
	So this looks more like, in terms of the December 7th event, and again, everyone who thinks that we're crying wolf, pay attention to the data points.
	There are several go, no-go decision points in this trend curve.
	We have been given privately information as to the exact location and the timetable of the assembly of the military cordon around this so-called landing site.
	Right.
	If that date arrives and nothing happens...
	I will be the first on the air to tell you it's not going to take place.
	All right.
	You're also the first to tell us what might happen, and I appreciate that.
	We're going to keep doing exactly that on this program.
	Snorted Candle, Twisted Wick Awards, or whatever it is they give me, we're going to keep at it, Richard, and I thank you for being here.
	And I thank you, sir.
	Good night.
	Good night.
	So there you have it.
	That's the latest on any number of items.
	Now, what better follow-up to all of this, especially with news of the comet, than Dr. Doom?
	He's next.
	Ed Dames.
	See you in a moment.
	Pacific location is major at dames.
	Scitex, Ed Dames.
	Hi, Ed.
	Good evening, Art.
	Good to have you back, as always.
	I don't even know where to begin, Ed.
	There is so much going on right now, it's almost like information overload.
	Well, let me begin, then, by offering my congratulations for your reward.
	This is another car in-house work at Scitex.
	What we are describing as a massive volcanism, a lot of volcanoes, causing what the Bible, the King James Version, describes as the moon turning blood red and the sun becoming black.
	Those events appear to be imminent.
	The same thing, by the way, roughly, that Father Malachi Martin has said he has been looking for, as well as signs from the sky.
	Father Malachi, Of course, who is recovering?
	Algon Wood.
	We'll get him back on the air one of these days, we pray.
	I said there would be three days of darkness, and it was almost, you know, I scratched my head.
	How could there possibly be three days of darkness?
	How could that happen?
	Sun goes up, sun goes down on a fairly regular basis, so how could we have darkness?
	Our data specifically is describing volcanism.
	Now there are some other geophysical events that we haven't been able to put our finger on, but most of our work, most of our technical milfaring sessions describe our volcanism.
	By the way, if you recall, I dedicated this work to Father Malachi Martin.
	I was reminded the other day of an old Chinese saying, and it goes like this, evil exists when good men fail to act.
	And there's been no lack of proper context.
	Although, you never know when your show could go down 96 hours from now, or maybe sooner than that.
	I'm going to place this in context later in the show, but I'll talk about this mark right now.
	We use technical remote viewing to do a lot of work against it.
	This mark will be mandated first in elementary schools, beginning about three and a half years from now.
	And then over time, it will be enforced throughout the general population in all countries.
	A mark?
	Wait a minute.
	A mark mandated in elementary schools?
	Yes.
	I'll explain that explicitly momentarily.
	As the Bible states, it will be well nigh impossible to gain employment, as we found, even to go to school or travel without showing evidence that you have received this mark.
	The mark will also be administered to newborns, and possibly even before birth in utero.
	This mark is now undergoing final testing.
	The final testing will be completed in three years.
	And it'll be on the streets shortly afterwards.
	The Mark is a vaccine.
	A vaccine?
	It is an AIDS vaccine.
	But it will be defective, Mark.
	Oh my.
	And the attending consequences.
	I know they're testing AIDS vaccines and have been for some time now.
	Oh, it's on page three of development.
	There's a consortium that's on the street.
	There's a couple of modus operandi of two separate groups that are pushing for this.
	But that is very important to note.
	As the Bible says, the mark will cause a noisome and grievous sore, scourge or a plague will be visited upon those who receive this mark.
	Indeed, when you get a vaccination, you get a mark.
	Well, what we did, this was an interesting project.
	These projects took about two months of work against selections from revelations, biblical revelations.
	We've never done anything like this before.
	The reason we did it is because we wanted to see if the event lines in revelations, where we were on those event lines.
	We went in with the postulate, the hypothesis, that the event lines in revelations were accurate.
	Because, as you know, in technical remote viewing, we have difficulty with knowing where we are in time.
	So we wanted to use checkpoints in Revelations to find out where we were at in time, if we were close to what has been described as end times, those kinds of things.
	Sure.
	And came up with some very, very interesting results that I'm going to talk about tonight.
	Now, we don't care whether the Whether the passages were in English, in fact, you know, the Bibles were translated from Hebrew to Greek to English.
	Some of the passages were purposely cryptic.
	All of them were symbolic, but many were simply not expressible of information that would take place in the prophetic future in terms of the times more than 2,000 years ago.
	Practical remote viewing bypasses that problem by going directly to the idea as it exists as a pattern of information and downloading it to the individual remote viewer and then the individual remote viewer's own lexicon expresses what they're perceiving.
	And that lexicon is of course contemporary.
	And that way we can put this ancient information in terms of today's knowledge.
	It just so happens, though, it appears to us that the prophetic information is information about events that are happening right now.
	And before I return to the Mark of the Beast, I want to point one thing out about biblical passages.
	It's a very important thing.
	This is not one of the prophets speaking.
	This is Jesus Christ in a response.
	Our targets are, for instance, you know, missing people, tactical type of targets.
	What's in that building over there?
	Where's the enemy?
	That type of thing.
	This was a topic.
	All of our sessions, and you have to conduct about six or seven sessions to pull out these ideas on something this this generic and non-discreet.
	The abomination, abomination in terms of
	of biblical meanings is sodomy.
	The abomination of desolation is church-sanctioned gay marriages,
	a marriage that's barren by design.
	All you need to do is scroll down to the guest area and click on Ed's name, the link right there,
	and over you go and you can do a lot more reading about technical remote viewing.
	Once again, here is Ed Dames.
	Ed.
	I'm back.
	All right.
	The mark of the beast, and I sat and I thought about it during the break.
	Indeed, when you get a vaccination, you get a mark.
	What we did, this was an interesting project.
	These projects took about two months of work against selections from revelations, biblical revelations.
	We've never done anything like this before.
	The reason we did it is because we wanted to see if the event lines in revelations, where we were on those event lines.
	We went in with the postulate, the hypothesis that the event lines in Revelations were accurate
	because as you know in technical remote viewing we have difficulty with knowing where we are
	in time.
	So we wanted to use checkpoints in Revelations to find out where we were at in time if we
	were close to what has been described as end times, those kinds of things.
	And came up with some very, very interesting results that I'm going to talk about tonight.
	Now, we don't care whether the passages were in English.
	In fact, you know, the Bibles were translated from Hebrew to Greek to English.
	Some of the passages were purposely cryptic.
	All of them were symbolic.
	But many were simply not expressible of information that would take place in the prophetic future in terms of of the times more than 2,000 years ago.
	Technical remote viewing bypasses that problem by going directly to the idea as it exists as a pattern of information and downloading it to the individual remote viewer and then the individual remote viewer's own lexicon expresses what they're perceiving.
	And that lexicon is, of course, contemporary.
	And that way we can put This ancient information in terms of today's knowledge.
	It just so happens though, it appears to us, that the prophetic information is information about events that are happening right now.
	And before I return to the Mark of the Beast, I want to point one thing out about biblical passages.
	It's a very important thing.
	This is not one of the prophets speaking.
	This is Jesus Christ in a response to his disciples in one of his sermons, when they ask, how will we know when the end times are here?
	And out of the mouth of Christ himself, he says, you'll know it is the end times when the abomination of desolation It's standing where it ought not.
	And I thought, wow, this is real good because we'll subject this to our tools.
	Pull out the meanings in terms of today and see what Jesus of Nazareth himself was talking about.
	And that way, when we see it, we'll know whether or not, if one accepts the truth of the Bible, we'll know whether or not we're near the end times.
	Do you know what we ended up with then?
	When we hit that as a target, I think remote being target, and by target I mean a topical search.
	Our normal targets are, for instance, you know, missing people, tactical type of targets.
	What's in that building over there?
	Where's the enemy?
	That type of thing.
	This was a topic.
	All of our sessions, and you have to conduct about six or seven sessions to pull out these ideas on something this generic and nondiscreet.
	The abomination, abomination in terms of biblical meanings is sodomy.
	The abomination of desolation is church-sanctioned gay marriages.
	A marriage that's barren by design.
	It is the church collaborating in the destruction of the family and supporting gay marriages.
	And that is what we pulled out of this.
	The abomination of desolation.
	Both the Old and the New Testaments talk about sodomy.
	Do you know that Hawaii was the first state to, I believe, legitimize gay marriage?
	No, it did not pass.
	I'm in Hawaii right now.
	That's where I'm at.
	And that did not pass, or it was battled down.
	Or it got knocked down by a court, but I mean they tried to get it through.
	Oh yes, yes.
	And the point is, standing where it ought not, a marriage of a man and a woman, what the traditional man and woman church, sanctioned by the church, that when a marriage of two men or two women are in that place, that is what Christ himself was talking about.
	When you see The abomination of desolation standing where it ought not.
	When we target this, we sketch and describe two men standing before an altar being married by a priest in a church.
	Now we're seeing that today.
	So what does that mean for us?
	You'll know the end times are here when you see that.
	So that was important for us because it is another It's another checkmark that indicates that we may indeed be this last generation that biblical prophets have described.
	Of course, I'm not the first one to say that.
	No, I've wondered about that, Ed.
	I mean, we see story after story.
	I listened to Linda Moulton Howe.
	There'll be a report on Sunday.
	Do you know that our coral reefs worldwide are literally dying?
	And I mean, Really dying off and then of course the fish that depend on those coral reefs will die and then more will die and more will die.
	The coral reefs are dying at the most alarming rate I've ever heard.
	Art, I dive every day on a reef.
	I can watch the destruction daily, not even weekly.
	I can watch the reefs dying.
	A scientist interviewed, everybody will hear it Sunday on Dreamland, said, you know, we were tracking two or three Diseases.
	And we only understood, I think, one of them.
	And now we're tracking, I forget what he said, 12 or 14 or 24 diseases, and we don't understand any of them.
	And the rate of destruction of the coral reefs, in some cases, has reached past 50 towards 70 percent.
	That's really frightening information.
	And we're spending all our time Talking about the President and Monica.
	Not me, but I mean, you know, the general media.
	Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.
	Yes, good analogy.
	Good allegory.
	We selected out a couple of other passages from Revelations.
	We selected the Beast of Revelations 13.
	We wanted to determine And using today's lexicon, what the tool of technical remote viewing could download, looking at the idea of the beast of Revelation 13.
	And the beast, we thought, might equate to an individual, but it did not.
	It is the animal nature of man, as opposed to the divine nature of man.
	That's where the field, this anti-Christ idea, this field effect, finds resonance.
	That's the beast.
	That is what we derive by looking at that term.
	The term 666 is a symbol for the beast in Revelations, but it's also the number of a man, if you remember.
	And what 666 amounts to, I've mentioned this once before, we did some further study on it to elaborate it.
	It is, in essence, we end up sketching and describing actual physical money, and we end up describing situations where possession, greed, money, and lust are involved.
	It's the vehicle by which the beast, this idea, rules the hearts of men.
	It exercises the people.
	Power is really exercised over people because of money, the root of all evil.
	The vehicle of money is used, the pursuit and the fixation upon worldly things.
	So that's what that equates to.
	But the mark of the beast was the most interesting of all.
	Because in prophecy it specifically states that women who are nursing children
	and woe to the woman who is nursing or with child.
	Because a heavy price is going to be paid by infants.
	I remember you were saying this kind of, it has to be what, three years ago?
	About two and a half years ago.
	Two and a half years ago, okay.
	We weren't sure.
	We thought, remember we thought at the time that we were dealing with a bovine age.
	Yes.
	Oh yes, I recall.
	It isn't.
	It is this.
	It is this vaccine.
	But that was so close.
	Well, that's not good enough for us.
	But that's still very close.
	It's AIDS, or a form of AIDS, and it affects babies and children.
	Ironically, it's the vaccination itself that is defective in some way.
	There's an advocacy group that's pushing the government.
	They want the government to hurry.
	Accusing the government of erring on the side of caution.
	Well, look... And there's a consortium that's putting this out on the street.
	I think, though, Ed, sensible people, if presented with an AIDS vaccine, who understand their sex lives, what they're doing, and what they're not doing, will act accordingly and will not exactly rush down to get something they don't need.
	They have no choice, Art.
	If you're a child in school, you will not be able to go to a public school without being administered this vaccine.
	You are a government employee.
	You're saying it's going to be mandated?
	I'm saying you're compelled to take it.
	It's going to be mandated.
	Over my dead body?
	Well, I mean... I mean that, over my dead body.
	Look, I understand how I conduct myself sexually.
	I'm monogamous, and I know that I'm okay.
	I know my wife's okay.
	That's it.
	I'm not going to take... I don't care what they do.
	I mean it, over my dead body.
	I would not go and take it.
	Well, there... Again, harking back to Revelations, it is described that the people that refuse this mark will be essentially excommunicated.
	To what?
	In Revelations, it's termed the desert of the nations or the wilderness of the people.
	Well, you know, I can actually see how that would occur.
	In other words, the mark, as you call it, would make you socially acceptable.
	The lack of the mark would make you virtually an outcast.
	Well, it goes deeper than that.
	You're actually compelled and coerced, actually, to being vaccinated because you simply can't You can't travel, you can't get a good paying job, or perhaps any job, if you don't have that vaccination.
	Because AIDS becomes such a terrible epidemic.
	Look at Africa today.
	And these are all young adults, the most economically important group, that are dying.
	And for the most part.
	And that that's the group that the United States at least can't afford to lose, because those are the ones that are going to pay Social Security for you and I. You know, Ed, I was just in Africa.
	And I've got to tell you, Ed, Africa, Africa is worse than anybody can possibly imagine.
	The social situation, crime, anarchy, Frankly, it's anarchy.
	It's almost ongoing civil war.
	Americans have no idea what's going on in Africa right now.
	There are parts of Cape Town that are quite civilized and parts that you wouldn't even think about walking in and forget Johannesburg and parts north.
	I mean, it's just a disaster.
	Population is decreasing.
	AIDS is decimating that continent.
	And what is not being decimated by AIDS is being decimated by people.
	Well, that is why this idea of the desert of the nations was so important.
	Because, you know, what do you do if you're trying to escape the domination of a new world government?
	You have to go somewhere.
	And it turns out that the wilderness of the people There are physical sites that are not pre-designated, they're just places that congregations of people who do not want that mark end up and being together, like-minded people, spiritually oriented and like-minded.
	And there's a sorting out, there's a sort of an exodus that occurs to these spots, a sorting out that's difficult to understand, essentially supposedly led and executed by angels.
	Well, Scitech has called these spots sanctuaries.
	They're sanctuaries in terms of geophysical events, too.
	And lastly, the people at those places are to receive what Revelations calls the Bond of the Covenant.
	Now, when we remote view this, we might as well be in Australia trying to describe a skyscraper or a Cadillac today.
	It is something that I do not have a lexicon for.
	The closest that I can describe this particular event, again that's called, that's termed the Bond of the Covenant in the English language, is something like the fundamental particles of nature coalescing into a cloud above these people.
	That's all I can do with that.
	I don't have The thesaurus, the personal memory bank, the lexicon to be able to deal with what is happening here.
	Is this why sometimes you're close, for example, the bovine AIDS and now the mark, the vaccination, but nevertheless the AIDS and still the children.
	In other words, you see a result, but you don't quite see the mechanism that brings it about.
	Because we don't have the lexicon installed yet.
	When we were looking, for instance, when we were looking at the idea of AIDS as a disease, of the HIV virus turning into a full-blown pandemic, wasn't there yet when we were trying to determine what was killing these children.
	And when our lexicon is loaded, when our memory banks have this information, When we perceive an idea, an abstract idea, it's a right brain type of activity.
	That idea has to find a label in our memory banks.
	If we can't find the label, we can't express it as individuals.
	So we're in the collective unconscious.
	We may grasp the idea of, let's say, a new type of space propulsion system in the future.
	But it may be a design based upon technology that doesn't exist today.
	And therefore, we can't describe it.
	Do you have any idea of the scale of this disaster?
	Which one?
	This coming mark.
	It's not near the scale as the other things that occur under the seventh seal.
	Under the seventh seal?
	Mm-hmm.
	That's what we'll talk about.
	Okay.
	And we'll talk about the sun, too.
	Something you frequently talk about.
	Remember the kill shot?
	Well, the sun.
	Last seven days, five flares and solar storms.
	I'm Art Bell.
	The sun.
	And, in fact, I just got a fax a little while ago.
	Somebody who said, five major flares, five geomagnetic storms in seven days.
	We are in fact now headed for a record, a Maguire-like record from the sun.
	What do you know going on presently?
	Can you tell us about the sun?
	Actually, our focus is on the effects on the magnetosphere.
	I think that this may be what is going to cause the volcanism arc, the Earth's magnetic field being pumped like that.
	I think that that may lead, I'm guessing now, I'm not a geophysicist, but what appears to be imminent is this, in terms of revelations, these six seal events are volcanism, and that appears to be heralded by What in 96 hours will be probably a meteor storm.
	Those things will be coincident.
	What Tritec in the past described as huge as this kill shot.
	A solar event of such magnitude that much of Earth will be affected and many people will be killed.
	We are now able to put into a time frame because of our work in the last two months on Revelations.
	Those events The Mark of the Beast, for instance, occurs as an event within the Seventh Seal events.
	It is one of the events that is described in terms of the opening of the Seventh Seal.
	Also under the Seventh Seal is an event where one-third of Earth's population will die.
	One-third?
	In a horrible catastrophe.
	That happens to be the kill shot.
	So now we have a timeline, not only an event line, what event follows another, which event follows another, but we have a timeline now too, because the AIDS vaccine will be on the street in just over three years.
	That's the mark of the beast, right?
	Right.
	So, just about that same time frame will occur this massive solar event.
	Now we know that we're talking about 2001 for this kill shot.
	So the kill shot is 2001.
	So you finally put a date to it.
	We finally have it down within it with a date that we're comfortable with.
	That we're comfortable with.
	More and more scientists now, Ed, are suggesting that the dinosaurs received their own very special kill shot.
	I have talked to a number of credentialed PhD types lately who have said that kill shots of the kind you describe,
	they believe, instead of the Big Bang Theory, are responsible for the creation-destruction cycle
	that mainstream science is now beginning to embrace.
	So, what you're suggesting is now believed by many.
	Well, it's, uh, it's interesting to be alive.
	When we consider how short the generation of man is, it's interesting to be alive at this point in time, to actually bear witness to these kinds of things, that there's the horror and all of the other attendant human emotions.
	But nevertheless, it happens to be a very unique, synchronistic time to be alive, I think.
	It is that.
	What other euphemisms I can find, I'll use.
	So, technical remote viewing, while not always accurate to the very finest detail, unless you do a whole lot of work, generally seems to have proven out to be accurate in the larger picture without question.
	On a single session, on a single train session, you know that we teach this.
	Our company teaches this to the public.
	A single remote viewer will be 80% accurate the first time around or any given 45 minute technical remote viewing session.
	The 20% inaccuracy we can work out.
	I'll give you an example of what I mean by 20% on this report that I mentioned to the Sheriff's Office in Jacksonville, Florida on Maddie Rae Clifton.
	Right.
	Just so she doesn't die.
	She would not have died in vain.
	I want to talk about her case.
	There wasn't a lot of time.
	We only had time to do two sessions before we got a report out.
	We put it out on the street as raw intelligence.
	We knew that it would only be 80% correct.
	Now, we have to be right or wrong on the child's death.
	We can't say, we've got to be 100% sure on that arc.
	Right.
	Okay?
	But the details, you know, the devil is in the details, we were not 100% right.
	For instance, I said in my own remote viewing work that her body is submerged, trapped beneath a metal grate or a wire grid.
	In fact, her body was underneath a filled water bed.
	Yeah, I've got the faxes from you to prove what you're saying.
	Yeah, and so that's the kind of error that would have been worked out with four more remote viewing sessions.
	We would have known that, hey, she is not under water, literally.
	She's not underwater, but she's beneath a water-filled thing inside a house.
	Close enough.
	And the house is, and we can draw a map for the police.
	I can absolutely see why a person doing these all the time, I think, would be at risk of their life eventually.
	I don't think you could keep doing those kinds of sessions without becoming unbalanced.
	Well, you know, detectives, the poor people who are out in the field, have to do this all the time.
	Yeah, and a lot of them end up putting their gun in their mouth, too.
	Actually, that's right.
	I guess you were once a police... a dispatcher.
	I was, yes.
	Yes, and I was... Ed, it began to affect me.
	You go home at night having made life and death decisions for people, and that's too much weight.
	Too much weight on your mind for whatever amount of money they want to pay you.
	In my estimation, it was way too much weight.
	And I'm the kind of person who takes my work home.
	I couldn't do it.
	For my own mental health, after about a year, I had to leave.
	I had to leave.
	And I did.
	And I made the right decision.
	I could not have taken that.
	Well, What we, our goal is to act as a cadre to train great numbers and we've got about 10,000 TRV tape trainees now.
	It's to train people so that they can do this.
	Take the monkey off our back.
	They can do this.
	People who want to work police work can work police work.
	People who want to work military intelligence work can do that.
	There are people, Ed, who can do that kind of work and virtually shut it off as they walk away.
	But you're right.
	People can remote view for themselves.
	And I know that you have a series of tapes.
	Video tapes.
	Extremely well produced.
	Boy, are they... the production values in those tapes are just tremendous.
	Actually, the editor was an Oscar nominee.
	Yeah, it's obvious in the watching.
	Now, they do get increasingly expensive.
	You have how many tapes?
	Three now?
	No, there's a module one, which is a single tape.
	That first module exposes people to the tool itself.
	And that is how much?
	It's $49 or something like that, about $49.
	The second module consists of four tapes, a total of eight hours of instruction with checklists and those kinds of things.
	This is a rigorous, complex tool and has to be taught correctly.
	And just like I taught it in the military, this is a far more evolved set of instructions than we ever used in the military.
	It had to be, because you could not teach someone effectively using a tape unless the protocols were rigid and rigorous.
	Alright, I watched Module 1, and I think that it is reasonable for me to tell the audience that anybody out there who's not sure whether you want to do this or not, Should absolutely order Module 1.
	Spend the $49.
	Watch that, and by the time you're done, I guarantee you will know whether you want to proceed or not.
	That's what Module 1 is good for.
	And it's just $49, so if you're intrigued with remote viewing, and the fact of the matter is, Ed, that virtually anybody, anybody can do it.
	You don't have to be a gifted psychic to do this, right?
	That's correct.
	A lot of targets are fun.
	We have fun a lot.
	For instance, when I would like to take the time to give you an example of what I consider to be fun and interesting to me, I caught a show that you did the other night where an individual said he had some photos of an alien.
	Those are posted on your website.
	You've got it.
	Wait, wait, wait, before we get to that.
	The tapes, Ed.
	Okay.
	Business.
	You've got a number for people to call who would like to order Module 1 or Module 2, right?
	That's correct.
	Is that number good right now?
	Are there operators sitting there?
	There are always live operators, or if one chooses not to interface with a human being, they can interface with electronics.
	Why would they choose not to?
	Well, I suppose some people are shy.
	All right.
	The operator number is what?
	Live operators are 1-888-878-0333.
	Okay.
	And automated order line is 1-877-878-1777.
	Okay.
	We can also be found now in a very high quality catalog of tools for exploration.
	automated order line is 1-877-878-1777.
	We can also be found now in a very high quality catalog, tools for exploration.
	We had never intended on putting our tapes out to be distributed by anyone other than ourselves.
	Watch that and that will tell you whether you want to proceed or not.
	to catalog some of your listeners that may be familiar with it. We're in that now also.
	All right. Well, I really do recommend these tapes to people and most especially for the
	uninitiated module one. Watch that and that will tell you whether you want to proceed or not.
	There are some people who should not remote view.
	They really shouldn't.
	You know, it's better for them, because of their personality and makeup, not to know.
	But for the people who do want to know, it's real.
	Now, Ed, you mentioned a show I did the other night, which really, really shook up the force out there.
	A doctor came on, a very articulate doctor who told a very articulate story of an encounter with an alien.
	And he supplied me with photographs of what he called an obelisk and photographs of the alien itself.
	And we were following up.
	He's offered the negatives to be examined.
	And you said there are some fun things you do.
	What kind of fun did you have with that?
	We haven't had any fun yet.
	What we're going to do with both our tape training, I teach on the internet.
	In fact, I teach advanced skills above and beyond the modules that people buy when they want to get into the very advanced work.
	I teach that on our online classroom.
	What I'm going to do is use this set of photos, one of what you call the obelisk, and the other of this alleged alien itself.
	We're going to subject them to the technical remote viewing tool.
	We're going to TRV these, turn it into a project, and see what we're really dealing with.
	We did this with the Ray Santilli alien, too, as you know.
	Yes.
	And this is absolutely up there in the class of the Santilli business.
	No question about it.
	And yet, you never know, Art.
	You just never know.
	It seems like it's You just don't know.
	But we can know, and all we have to do is put the time in.
	And if you would like, I'll report back to you, or type up a report for you, and fax it to you.
	Well, it's always a good reason to have you back on the air, actually.
	Well, we'll do that.
	And we'll talk about... If we have a satellite.
	That's not funny.
	I mean, that really bothers me, considering that I could just... I mean, it probably won't happen.
	But to consider the satellite that carries my voice, that of Rush, Laura, Michael Reagan, so many others, the HBOs, the Cinemaxs, all gone.
	In a flash.
	With something traveling 50 miles a second or whatever it is.
	Don't lose that amateur radio license of yours.
	Oh no, I have that.
	I definitely have that.
	And I have emergency power with which to run it.
	And you can bet that you would find me on shortwave frequencies finding some way to disseminate information, obviously not commercial radio, but I'd get on there and there would be information, I guarantee you.
	Somehow.
	I'd get it out there, somehow.
	Well, the ARRL, the Amateur Radio Relay League, would support you.
	Well...
	They might.
	I've taken a few shots at them over the years, too.
	Hold on, Ed.
	Stay right where you are.
	I was never exactly an ARRL person.
	They did something called incentive licensing while I was out of the country.
	I spent a decade in the Far East, and when I came back, I found out that the license I had when I left wasn't the license I had when I got back.
	And I got very angry at the ARRL.
	I'm not so sure about that.
	Bygones be bygones, maybe so.
	This is Coast to Coast AF.
	All of a sudden, these pre-feed hours are being picked up all across the nation.
	It's actually pretty exciting.
	In a moment as well, cattle eating it may survive, but they could pass it on to humans.
	Sounds like something through milk.
	Sounds like something Ed said.
	So again, fungus.
	All of a sudden we're getting all of these fungus stories.
	That's aflatoxin.
	That's the result, the byproduct, the actual waste product of the fungi growing on the corn.
	It produces a toxin.
	And that toxin is called aflatoxin.
	That's very poisonous.
	Somebody writes, aren't surely you have contingency plans for possible broadcast problems next week?
	No, we don't.
	Not that I know of.
	Will you talk about them?
	I don't know about them.
	Will there be some radio station or website to keep us, your listeners, informed?
	I don't know.
	Lew in Wisconsin.
	Lew, I don't know, to answer your question.
	I would presume that my company, which is very large indeed, has some plan.
	You do have a plan out there, right guys?
	And now, questions for you, Ed.
	Please ask Ed to comment on his remote viewing, his remote viewing announcement made on television, I might add, concerning your leaving the air.
	Thanks, Joe South of Houston.
	Well, Ed, you went on a TV show.
	What was it?
	That was hard copy.
	We had turned down over the years, but we decided to give it a shot this time.
	And your remote viewing of my leaving essentially, I think, suggested that I had had a... I don't want to put words in your mouth, but... I think we describe it as a transformative experience, probably at a subconscious or unconscious level, a year, almost a year to the day that you left the air.
	And we describe that as you As an example, something that happened when you laid down in the sarcophagus inside the King's Chamber on your trip to Egypt.
	Now remote viewing, as I've said so often before, is direct knowledge.
	So specifically, we were looking at the genesis of why you left.
	And why we ended up here, I don't know.
	But we trust the data, nevertheless.
	I want to remind you that we did that project because of, not that you were crying wolf or anything, but we were concerned that Cytek did something was wrong, that there were bad guys possibly after you.
	We didn't know how to interpret your announcement.
	I did not want to ask you personally.
	I just wanted to hunt down the bad guys.
	Since I am not yet at liberty to discuss it, I cannot confirm and deny that.
	Which, by the way, Ed called me.
	I'm open with everything.
	Ed called me before he went on the TV show and said, would it be alright?
	I said yes.
	He told me What he had remote viewed and I said, I'm sorry Ed, I can't confirm or deny that.
	And you said, I understand.
	I said, sure, go ahead on the show.
	Is that about right?
	That's about right.
	And I do not understand the data.
	I'm very surprised by it.
	I don't understand why we didn't turn it into a project.
	In fact, we stopped because you did not appear to be an immediate danger to us.
	We didn't have any bad guys to chase like we used to do as a military team and so there was no need to, it looked like any further we would have gotten into your own mind at a deeper level and that's personal territory which ethically, although we have the skill to do that, we've done it before with terrorists and hostages, we would not do it under normal circumstances because I feel that just because we have this skill trained to a of a fighting edge.
	It doesn't give us license to violate other people's, uh, the privacy of their deep minds.
	All right.
	Uh, Art, that nine-year-old who was found under the waterbed of a 14-year-old neighbor was very big news in my state, Florida.
	Please clarify on air the fact that locating that child was Ed's doing.
	I'm going to verify or disprove that claim by talking to Jacksonville's Homicide Division this morning.
	Did he inform the sheriff as himself or did someone else from SciTech make contact with the sheriff or what?
	The actual fact that we sent to the sheriff's office on November 9th is on our website.
	In the training, over in the training projects.
	You have to go into the online classroom part of our website, and the fax is there.
	You also have a copy of the fax.
	I do indeed.
	We send it to the Sheriff's Office.
	I'm glad you've got it on the website so this fellow can check it out.
	Now, Arch, ask Ed if we are not going to have the CME, that's a coronal mass ejection next spring, as he's been saying now for some time, is he now backing off?
	On the CME and North Korea nuking the South, there seems to be some inconsistency here.
	Let me give your listeners, who have not heard me before, some background on this Korea nuke, because you've probably taken some people by surprise.
	Sure.
	What we were interested in, although we cannot fix ourselves in time very accurately, unless we have some other milestones, some real-world Uh, event markers to attach ourselves to.
	We can still very, very accurately define and describe the next event in certain classes.
	So, for instance, the next use of a nuclear weapon in anger, where there are mass casualties, an actual weapon of war.
	We can, that is a very effective target for us.
	We can describe that.
	When It happens, we're not sure of.
	But we know where it's going to be, who will use it against whom, and that we did.
	So we described using that as a target reference.
	North Korea using a nuclear weapon against South Korea as the next use, since 1950, since the late 1940s, of a nuclear weapon.
	In anger.
	So you stand by that?
	We stand by that, yes.
	Here's another one.
	Major Dames has prophesied on the social implications of the defective AIDS vaccine, especially those refusing it.
	Please don't let him get away without describing the biological complications of said vaccine.
	What medical problems does the Mark of the Beast cause in people?
	Is it just an ulcerated skin mark?
	What complications arise justifying becoming a societal outcast by refusing to receive it?
	Gary and Berkley.
	Well, first of all, it wasn't prophecy.
	The prophets, the only prophets that we know were essentially Old Testament prophets, generally, some New Testament prophets.
	People who were shanghaied by some system out there.
	You might call it God, or whatever you choose, whatever word you... They were shanghaied, and they were forced.
	Information was forced on them.
	Their noses were held right in it.
	Those are the prophets.
	I don't prophesy.
	We interpret, in terms of contemporary meanings, what the Old Testament and New Testament prophets were saying.
	That was this project over the last two months.
	Specifically, what is wrong with this AIDS vaccine?
	I don't know.
	We can find out.
	In fact, I probably should do more work and find out what exactly is wrong with the vaccine.
	But that notwithstanding, It still is the information that we came up with, and that, if one believes the Bible, the mark of the beast, which turns out to be this AIDS vaccine, is going to cause the things that were described in the Bible, and that is the annoysome and grievous plague, some type of a mark that we'll deal with, and the death of infants.
	Now, perhaps, It reinfects or infects the population.
	But I'm just guessing.
	We'll do more work and find out.
	But right now it's a moot point.
	My specific goal was to get the word on the street.
	I'm not trying to convince anyone.
	I hear you.
	Here's actually a supporting comment.
	Hey Ed, you still may not be so far off.
	The vaccine has to be made out of a serum.
	Could the serum be made out of infected bovine blood products?
	Nexus has recently run articles about the contaminated vaccines being administered.
	Again, we had to do more work.
	This was a broad brush attack against a number of topics in Revelations.
	And, you know, we got our foot in the door.
	Now we need to do some detail work.
	So we can do that.
	I think what we'll do for your next show, after we talk about these, after we take care of the fun stuff, the photos of the obelisk and alien that you have on your website, we'll address further work on the Mark of the Beast and find out exactly what is defective about this vaccine that will be on the streets in three years.
	Okay, that's just fine.
	I too would like to see some more fun projects, although I understand that you do it for diversion.
	The novelty acts as a stimulus.
	In experimental psychology, for instance, it's well known that novelty acts as a stimulus, and it's the same in everyday life.
	In fact, In fact, as I mentioned before, there appears to be something out there.
	Either a control system, or either the collective unconscious that always ups the ante with regard to so-called abductions and UFO phenomena.
	For instance, the novel that has to be kept up, Hollywood knows this, it isn't good enough just to see a flying saucer anymore.
	Nobody would give a flying saucer the time of day in this decade as it did in the late
	40s and 50s.
	There has to be an abduction by insectoids and they have to perform a gynecological exam,
	those kinds of things.
	Because that ups the viewer ratings, you see, and it keeps people interested because it's
	novel.
	So something's happening out there that is using novelty to capture us.
	In fact, if that was not a hoax, if those photos of the Alboriskan aliens were real,
	I mean, I get a lot of photographs.
	I get a lot of stories, Ed.
	And I rarely get the kind of story we got the other night with the kind of supporting photographic evidence that we have.
	is? We'll find out. Absolutely fascinating and they are at the very least I mean I get a lot of
	photographs, I get a lot of stories Ed and I rarely get the kind of story we got the other night with
	a kind of supporting photographic evidence that we have.
	You can't trust computers generated stuff anymore but these were 35 millimeter.
	Very interesting.
	Here's another one.
	Question for Major Dames.
	On a previous appearance, I believe Major Dames conveyed briefly, without elaborating, that remote viewing investigation into the subject of false prophet had turned up data on what he referred to as a lot of child torture.
	Could you ask him please to elaborate on that?
	No, that's not correct.
	What I said was, on programs last year, that when we, or anybody who has been trained in remote viewing, uses the search term, this is just like going into a library, think of the universal mind as a library, going in with the search term, or the internet, and using the search term Satan, out falls, depending upon the remote viewer, Okay.
	Here's one who asks, would you please ask Ed, what has caused the ozone depletion?
	As well, ask him why he thinks the U.S.
	different actual locations, people and events, but in all cases, children are being tortured
	or murdered.
	Okay.
	Here's one who asks, would you please ask Ed, what has caused the ozone depletion?
	As well, ask him why he thinks the U.S. Mars orbiter now mapping the planet has not been
	destroyed like the Russian probe had been.
	Two very separate questions.
	Have you done any work on the ozone depletion?
	1990, I believe.
	In 1990, my company did some work for Lawrence Rockefeller and the Human Potential Foundation in Washington, D.C., projecting the effects of planetary ozone depletion.
	In fact, the contract was called Planetary Ozone Depletion Projected Consequences and Remedial Technologies, something like that.
	So we did work then.
	We saw no amount of human, no technologies would be employed to stop the ozone loss.
	Stopgap measures would not work.
	Ozone was going away.
	I remember your specific prediction of course about the frogs dying.
	That one came to pass.
	Well, it's the ozone layer.
	Anything in the neotenate stage, in the developmental stage, see frogs' eggs are exposed to sunlight.
	As a matter of fact, actually they've done follow-on research to really prove it because they've had eggs that they intentionally screened from the sun and eggs left in the sun.
	Yeah.
	Anything that's exposed.
	Lots of insects lay their eggs on the underside of leaves, so they're actually protected.
	But other things that expose themselves to the sun in their normal course of life, whether it's a week or a day or a month, like bees for instance, I've said before, bees will suffer blindness because they can no longer adapt to the high levels of UV in certain areas, belts in the northern hemisphere particularly, and they will die off for that reason alone.
	And do you understand that why, that a lot, do you understand why a lot of what you say
	makes people angry?
	Absolutely, in fact, I can only imagine how many enemies I've made tonight by,
	particularly among the gay community.
	Probably, oh yeah, so yeah, some.
	I'm not judging the data nor opining on it.
	I'm simply saying what anyone, I'm a professional remote viewer, but now we have some pretty advanced students out there too.
	Anybody who learns these techniques are going to be sketching and describing the same thing.
	So, yes, it makes people very angry.
	Not just that, but the solar kill shot.
	The fungus thing, uh, the, uh, the Hale-Bopp canister.
	Don't shoot the messenger.
	Um, but they do.
	They do?
	Oh, I've got lots of blowholes in me.
	I know.
	Alright, when we come back, uh, we're going to open up the, uh, the phone lines, and that's when I expect the automatic weapons fire will begin.
	So, if you have a question or a comment for Major Ed Dames, this is going to be your opportunity.
	From the high desert, where it's clear and the stars are very bright as we await the storm, I'm Art Bell.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
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	There are a number of events connected with what Revelations describes as the Seventh Seal.
	Anybody can read that for themselves.
	There are biblical scholars who can give you the complete rundown.
	What we're saying is, this discontinuity in terms of the human evolution, this
	huge solar event that we have been warning your listeners about that is coming, we've now been able to
	place in time because of remote viewing these milestones in Revelation. The seventh
	seal is where one third of the earth's population of men, two billion people approximately,
	will die along with a third of the river waters, a third of the trees, a third of the
	sea, those kinds of things that we all have heard about.
	Yes, of course.
	What we're saying now is because of the linkage between these events and knowing where we are in time, We're able to relate that event to the 7th seal, what is described as the 7th seal, and say that in approximately, in the year 2001, this large event occurs.
	We could say that with a far higher confidence level than we've been able to talk about this event before, by looking at revelations.
	Somebody asked if you have considered a project called, believe it or not, Soul Catcher, as a possible implant related to the mark.
	No.
	Because they are working on this project, you know, Soul Catcher.
	There's speculation, there's been speculation over the last 20 centuries on what the mark means.
	Even the clergy in the church aren't sure, not until tonight.
	Has anyone been sure what the mark is?
	Now, other remote viewers turn their attention to that, too.
	They'll put together a similar picture.
	But, you know how much speculation there is on these kinds of very, very significant things.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	We get the same thing with the number 666.
	It is a barcode.
	Is it the square of the sum of the squares of the first 17 primes?
	Those kinds of things.
	Also, also, ask him, does he know anything about a project called Snowcraft?
	As a precursor to military remote viewing, he may know it as Snow Queen.
	Does that ring a bell?
	There was a project by name similar to that, but it had nothing to do with the remote viewing.
	Alright.
	What it did have to do with, I can't say.
	Classified stuff?
	Yes.
	Alright.
	And, uh, Mr. Dames mentioned he remote-viewed the alien autopsy concept.
	Would you ask him please what he found?
	It wasn't a concept.
	I was specifically referring to the Santilli tapes.
	We've discussed this on earlier shows.
	But a lot of people may have missed it and we've got a big audience.
	That was a complete fabrication.
	That was a dummy that had, while it was lying on the table, it had circulating fluids coming up through the back so that when it was cut, it could look like trigger pressure was forcing stuff out.
	It was a complete fabrication.
	It was essentially a sack that was filled with fluids.
	Here's somebody who says, in the spiritual community, the Killshot is considered the transition of the ages.
	No one in the spiritual community wants to really say it.
	Art, it's a free will universe.
	People that don't have the type of information that's in the book, Spiritual Ascension Explained, will not have the knowledge to make free choice to transition into the new energy of life.
	Is that too new-agey for you?
	Yes, I can't relate to any of it.
	I wouldn't know how to comment or even what they're talking about in terms of things that I know, because I'm not part of that community.
	All right.
	To the phones, Ed.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hello, Art.
	Hello, Ed.
	Hello.
	Hey, I'm going to switch signals on you here just a little bit.
	Some time ago, you spoke of remote viewing below the surface of Mars.
	On a possible mechanical being babysitting some egg nodules or something like that?
	We were referring to a structure that's been called a tetrahedron.
	Right.
	A skinny pyramid, pyramidal feature sitting on one of the craters in the Cydonia region.
	Below that were all these strange things going on that we really can't, beyond our ken.
	Okay, so basically That as far as you got with that project and you can't get any farther with that, is that correct?
	We probably could, but I don't think it would serve any useful purpose.
	What could we do with the information, as opposed to, say, finding an abductor and an abductee, or your missing children?
	We're probably better served, or at least technically, we're more doing is better served by doing the tactical level things, like getting the bad guy here down on terra firma, than looking at the rest of the universe, which is teeming with life and things that we don't understand.
	Although, having said that, I am trying to talk my high school age son into becoming an exobiologist.
	And this would be a great tool for people, if he becomes one, for an exobiologist to point their instruments in certain places where, as a remote hero, they've discerned life.
	Pardon me, that work that you've done so far with that, or that you had done in the past, to your mind, That is an existing thing.
	Is that correct?
	That's correct.
	Okay.
	Well, that's all I had.
	I appreciate you answering my question.
	All right, sir.
	Thank you very much.
	On the wild card line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Top of the morning to you.
	Yeah, the same to you, Art.
	This is Dan in Virginia.
	Hi, Dan.
	Ed, I have two questions.
	One, do you have any information as to why the pigeons You know, these homing pigeons are getting lost.
	Ah, ah, it's true.
	Thousands now of homing pigeons not coming home.
	The event, yes, as a matter of fact, it was...
	I'm not a solar physicist, but region 8370, about three weeks ago,
	during the time when those two pigeon races, those big races on the East Coast,
	occurred and all the pigeons became disoriented that day, it had something to do with region 8370 that was magnetically
	very active on the sun.
	Now, as a remote viewer, We can actually perceive, in a certain way, we can perceive the effects within the pigeon itself, within the animal.
	And we can, in anthropomorphic terms, what I would describe is this way.
	The pigeons that were disoriented, they could not see.
	It was as if the light was extremely bright, and at the same time, They have what, in human terms, would be called a migraine headache.
	It just caused them to fall out of the sky and waded out.
	What they were wading out had its genesis in region 8370, I believe, three weeks ago, which was an active region in the sun, a very strong magnetic storm at that point, which must have affected, linkage-wise, the magnetosphere here on Earth.
	And that's the reason the pigeons became disoriented.
	Oh, great.
	The second part of my question is, in doing your review of the revelations,
	do you see any landing of an alien right in the middle of the sky?
	It would be, think of going into a big library, the Library of Congress.
	in the seventh seal, I think it's referred to in some part of the revelations.
	All right, that is an interesting question.
	That would be something that we would have to actually target.
	When we... it would be, think of going into a big library, the Library of Congress.
	Unless you knew what specific book you were looking for, you would miss all the other books.
	And if something like this would occur, let's say a landing, that's not... we'd have to know the name of it.
	We'd have to know the idea to turn our attention to this infinitely complex library where all these patterns of information are.
	We'd have to have a specific name for a target.
	It would be too generic to just search for a landing.
	We could do it, but it would take a lot of work.
	And we have not searched for something like that.
	And here's something I would like to suggest you work on.
	A listener writes, and I can verify this, Dear Art, oh my God, I saw, rather heard, a radio report this last week saying that a problem had developed with the Hubble telescope that would require it to be taken offline for two years.
	What the hell is going on?
	I'm not sitting very easy about this.
	Could you look into... I mean, it really is astounding to me that they could have a problem that would require the telescope be turned off for two years.
	It is curious.
	Well, didn't NASA specify the problem?
	No.
	Well, surely they must, as a responsible... They haven't told me.
	Well, I mean...
	They are responsible government agency that is running a very advanced wonderful tool that the public is very interested in.
	They owe the public.
	An explanation, I'm sure, will be forthcoming.
	If one is not, then I would be interested.
	Right now, I'm not.
	Okay.
	But if they are not forthcoming, then that's strange, and we could certainly look at that.
	Okay.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi, Ark.
	Hi, Major Dames.
	Hi.
	I have a couple questions for you, and I'm hoping that... I'd heard you talk a little earlier about the possible allergies we may be having on the 17th.
	I hope that sometime in the program you can recap what you talked about there.
	But I have the tapes that...
	I know you've actually gone through your program, but I have yet to view anything because I'm kind of concerned about what the downside or repercussions to remote viewing might be.
	I know that Art mentioned a little earlier that he was concerned about people who would remote view situations like the little girl that was found.
	In keeping your sanity, what is the downside to remote viewing?
	The downside is two.
	One is now that you have knowledge you would never have had before.
	You get what you're asked for, and you may have an answer that you did not want.
	That's number one.
	Number two is, you're now responsible for doing something, for acting upon the information.
	You don't have to act upon it.
	But if you now know where, let's say, Osama bin Laden is, Or you know who killed John F. Kennedy, then you have a responsibility perhaps to do something with that information.
	So yes, it can carry knowledge, it can carry some heavy costs.
	How receptive do you find people to be to you giving them this information?
	Very receptive.
	We have over 10,000 tape trainees now, and I think that the majority of them are like myself.
	Not just in terms of skill.
	As I've mentioned so often before, I was about as psychic as a rock.
	But I'm a highly skilled remote viewer now.
	I was fascinated in this mind tool, in terms of human evolution.
	Does it ever scare you?
	I still am.
	Does it ever scare you?
	I mean, are you scared of the technology itself?
	No, no.
	It's wonderful.
	Depressed, though.
	It can be depressing.
	For instance, Maddie Clifton, that ruined my day.
	Although I am not close to her, I did not know her.
	I can walk away from this and not have it affect me greatly, but for at least one day it did affect me greatly and how could it not?
	Just the knowledge that you would have to relate this information to the child's parents.
	Can I ask you one other quick question?
	Have you had the chance to view Sean David Morton's Prophecy of February 21st?
	What is that?
	He had mentioned that February 21st was a major something was going to happen on that day that was... A huge wave at the wrong time could sweep the bus off the road and into the angry sea.
	Here we go, he's going for it.
	My heart is racing.
	Proper immunizations, you're not going to be allowed entrance to developed countries, so travel can be restricted too, and you can see where this is going.
	Could the buyer cell refer to commerce of any kind?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I know that that is what the Bible says, but that did not come out of the data in any way when we performed this topical search against this particular search term.
	Yes.
	I have some interesting information that I might like to share with you if you're willing to perhaps listen.
	I have an alternative theory about what the Mark of the Beast might be.
	I have a feeling it might be connected to the Y2K crisis.
	I have to stop you and tell you that the tool that I use, and that we use, that we developed at Habitat Genesis as a military intelligence collection tool, this eventuates in direct knowledge.
	There is no data interpretation.
	There's no red tape.
	Our imaginations are shunted.
	Our personal egos are out of the way so it doesn't get involved in analyzing the data as we get it.
	And so we're directly connected with that specific pattern of information and its meaning.
	There's no interpretation at all.
	Yeah, these are not theories.
	There you go.
	Not theories.
	And so you're welcome to make them, ma'am, when we're in open lines.
	But what's sharing, in fact, Ed's right, they're not theories.
	This is simple information without imagination.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Good morning, Art, and good morning, Ed.
	I can assure you these will not be verbal projectiles, so you can rest assured there.
	That's okay, I got my flak jacket on.
	Is it Teflon?
	Actually, it's interesting that I've got through tonight and that you're, Art, having this Today is the first day that I've tried to make some attempts and contacts regarding a dream that I had about a week ago and a vision when I awoke regarding some situations.
	I really wouldn't want to get into those since they would affect a vast majority of people.
	I'm just curious, Ed, if you are currently working on any remote viewing.
	Regarding domestic terrorism and in lieu of the fact that there's an activity regarding Iraq currently underway Is there anything that's that has got your attention as far as what you might be seeing?
	In the aspects of revolt viewing regarding this country as far as terrorism goes No, we are not currently working a terrorism project I The last time we did a search for those kinds of things, we were concerned about the possibility of nuclear terrorism, and that's how we ended up describing the next use of a weapon in what turns out to be the Korean Peninsula.
	So the answer is no.
	We're not currently working on a terrorism problem.
	And I don't have any projections vis-a-vis the war that's about to begin in the Mideast.
	I was wanting to put some feelers out, because I am definitely I am concerned about that since this dream was before the
	story broke.
	And since I am not involved directly with anyone, I don't have a title, I am a layperson
	and I am not interested in gaining any kind of notoriety.
	I have had this kind of experience in the past with a dramatic situation in Oklahoma
	City.
	I take people like you as a coach and I make them into all-stars if they learn the rigor and the protocols the right way.
	But on a bell curve of human potential and human performance psychically, there are people born like yourself.
	They have to deal with what you're dealing with right now.
	Many of them have been my students and I know this problem.
	It's not easy to wake up with that kind of knowledge.
	We do it as a profession.
	You don't have a choice.
	Well, it's definitely an interesting field and with Art Bell's exposure to the remote viewing, that's basically how I discovered it in the first place and knew about it.
	I appreciate that, Art, very much.
	All right, sir.
	I hope that you continue on your good work.
	Thank you.
	Learn to remote view, and then after they're doing it, decide they don't want to do it anymore.
	There are some.
	There are some that do that.
	Some of them for two reasons.
	One is that they just wanted to prove to themselves, one reason, that they could do it.
	And the other reason is people, the reality of what they have been doing, it happens about one year into the process, the reality of what they're doing all of a sudden catches up with them and they realize, oh my God, this isn't supposed to be possible.
	I could not really have done this.
	And it sort of scares them.
	There are individuals like that.
	Not many, but it does happen.
	I've seen all different kinds amongst my graduates, both in the tape course and in the professional development course that I used to teach.
	As you well know, I have all your modules.
	I have watched the first one and I have so far kept myself from jumping into the other four tapes.
	And I've done that intentionally because I have not yet made up my mind Whether I really want to know as a fact what's coming.
	There's some part of me, Ed, that would like to sit here and listen to you talk about these things and not believe them.
	Well, you can have a lot of fun, though, too, Art.
	You don't have to look at the doom and gloom stuff like I do.
	That's my job.
	You can also have fun.
	Well, I guess that's true.
	And develop a better mouth for it.
	All right.
	Hold it right there and we'll be right back.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	Don't touch that dial.
	In the black and black of the diggin' and plowin' And the raps and the hoes
	And the folks that drive the sports cars Hunter Dames, hi there.
	Where are you, please?
	I am Sarasota, Florida.
	Sarasota, all right.
	And my name is Harold.
	Yes, sir.
	I'm a news anchor, and I just wanted to make a comment for my question.
	About three months ago, we were covering a story about a United Methodist minister who had married a gay couple.
	Then President Clinton's pastor, who's a Methodist minister, said that he condoned that, although he couldn't do it himself because he would probably be defrocked.
	But it's really interesting that I heard that comment that night.
	It made me think about that particular story.
	Anyway, my question for the major is that my neighbor and I bought Module One.
	We're having a great time.
	We're getting an adrenaline rush just nailing these targets.
	I mean, it's really amazing.
	The question is, We want to take the next step.
	My buddy said if I got through tonight, ask the major, I want to remote view something 24 hours from now.
	I want to remote view myself looking at a picture that he has.
	So I'm sitting at the table with my pen and my paper and I'm like, wait a minute, how do I do this?
	So how do I remote view myself 24 hours from now without the envelope in front of me?
	What do I do?
	How do you remote yourself the next day?
	Yeah, let's say 24 hours from now, let's say Sunday.
	How would I remote myself 24 hours looking at the picture?
	I wouldn't know what it is.
	He would like something basic, like the basic ideograms like Mount Rainier or Trade Center.
	So how would I do something like that?
	Come into my classroom.
	Come into my online classroom and I'll lay it out for you.
	Really?
	How do they do that, Ed?
	As long as it doesn't create a paradox, it's eminently doable.
	No, no.
	I don't mean how would he do it.
	How does he get to your online classroom?
	He goes to my website, either through yours or directly to mine at www.trv-scitech.com.
	T-S-I-T-E-C-H dot com.
	And up in the right hand corner you'll see online classroom.
	That's where I teach.
	We have open bulletin boards and chat rooms too.
	You'll find me teaching both basic and advanced skills in the online classroom.
	What time of the week, Major Dame, or day do I do that?
	Anytime you want.
	All you have to do is post your questions there and I'll respond to them.
	Really?
	Or you can come in the chat room right now.
	Our Vice President and some of our other employees are in that chat room and that's active 24 hours a day.
	Excellent.
	You can address those questions there.
	Okay.
	Are you familiar with Joe McMonagle?
	McMonagle, yes.
	Yes, yes.
	I was reading his book.
	It was good reading.
	I noticed in the particular book I was reading, Mind Trek, that it wasn't a mention of ideograms.
	Is that standard, or have you two ever worked together, or can you comment on that at all?
	Joe and I go back a while.
	Joe is a natural psychic that was on my team in the military.
	I was operations and training officer.
	He did not learn remote viewing.
	He was just a natural psychic that we used.
	In the earlier days before this breakthrough technique was developed in a laboratory that allowed people to learn this, that allowed it to be teachable, we used natural psychics in altered states.
	I'm about as psychic as synthetic motor oil, by the way.
	Ah, yes, but you're learning how to be a remote viewer.
	Yeah, that is true.
	Which is more consistent than the best natural psychics who have ever lived, I might add.
	And every remote viewer that I have spoken to has said virtually the same thing.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	Again, going back to the sun, I just got this just in.
	Potential magnitude of middle latitude auroral activity is moderate to high.
	Potential duration of the activity, main belt 12 to 18 hours, minor belt 24 hours.
	Estimated optimum observing conditions, near local midnight.
	Expected lunar interference, nil to low after about 3 a.m.
	local time.
	We're really getting slammed.
	And that means that down in the middle part of the country, middle latitudes, we're going to see displays like we've never seen before.
	Boy, are we getting slammed.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Davis.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	Yes, yes, Art.
	This is Ron from Grass Valley listening to you on KNCO.
	Yes, sir.
	This is quite a privilege to speak to you and Ed.
	Ed, I've got your first tape.
	I'm just beginning to learn it.
	I've got a long ways to go there.
	Quick news input.
	Front page in our local paper here a couple of days ago, there's a new fungus that's killing oak trees and madrone trees in our area.
	And I noticed that after a rain we have like a sweet, almost rotten smell in the air locally.
	So that brings me to my question.
	A few months ago I was lucky enough to get to speak to Art briefly about Hale-Bopp and I mentioned that there were a number of photos that I had downloaded from the web I've got about six photos from some major observatories, Japan, London, showing these objects traveling together.
	It's not just the one controversial photo that was out there.
	There was more than one, and it definitely convinced me that there was something.
	Before I could ask my question, Archie did something really unlike yourself.
	You cut me off and referred me to... What was your question?
	I was going to ask about if Ed, if you still support the existence of that companion, and if so, how pervasive is That's fungus or is it an accelerator that we never we never supported the issue of a companion ever what we said was that when remote viewers in fact we knew that the companion was a doctored photograph then the reason we knew that is when you circle that sort that so-called companion in the photos and you remote view it you find yourself not on
	A ball of ice and rock in the vacuum of space, but you find yourself in a photographic lab here on terra firma.
	If you put a circle around here proper, you're out in space.
	However, what you did say Ed was... We said there was a cylinder attached to the comet.
	an artificial structure, a cylinder-like object that was artificially constructed.
	Okay, so what the hell?
	Call her one at a time, please.
	I'm sorry.
	An artificial cylinder that was attached and detached.
	And detached, uh-huh, from them.
	Now, that was the thing that we did not want to talk about.
	In fact, I've thought about what you've said about, you know,
	when we, I mentioned to you before as a businessman, this is the kiss of death.
	Because this is about as bizarre a thing as one would imagine.
	Sure.
	And I think that if I had to do it over again, I may not have mentioned that.
	And yet, we stand by the work, there's nothing we could do about it.
	It was simply there.
	And this cylinder was filled with something that eventually disseminated itself in the
	atmosphere on Earth.
	What turned out to be as close as we can describe it as a fungal accelerator.
	And we're getting lots of stories of fungus.
	But one could attribute that to El Nino or La Nina.
	So it's hard to... This is why the ground truth type of tactical operations that we do are far more important.
	For people to be, for people to learn technical remote viewing and to realize it as a tool and intending to describe structures on Mars and Halbox cylinders and all those kinds of things that are out and about, but for which ground truth is very difficult.
	And at the pain of being repetitive, though it was a long time ago, Conor, fully two months before the Heaven Gate suicides, we clearly marked Uh, Real Photograph and Fraud Photograph and put them on the website and called constant attention to them nearly every day for two months and did a number of shows.
	Real and Fraud.
	University of Hawaii Photograph, Doctored Photograph.
	What about the Japan Photograph and the London Photograph?
	I have no idea about those.
	Well, I got those from your website.
	Uh, indeed, they were up there.
	Um, and they were real, uh, real photographs and I'm not an astronomer.
	I can't tell you whether they were real or frauds.
	I can tell you that the one that came from Professor Courtney Brown was conclusively shown to be a fraud.
	Fraud, fraud, fraud.
	I kind of look at that as a parallel misinformation.
	I wouldn't know how to look at it.
	I know what the facts on the ground were, and we talked to the University of Hawaii, and it absolutely was their photograph doctored.
	Period.
	Right.
	And I accept that one photograph as being such, but it's worthwhile going back and looking at the other photographs if you have an opportunity.
	I looked at them ad nauseum.
	Oh, you did?
	Oh, sure.
	And so you think they're all frauds?
	No, I didn't say that.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I said I have no way of knowing whether they're fraudulent or were or not.
	I looked at them ad nauseum.
	We had them on my side.
	How could I miss them?
	I see.
	You're right.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Good morning, Art.
	Good morning, Mr. Dames.
	My name is Robert Art.
	I'm calling you, listening to you on WOKV 690 on the AM dial in case ABC needs to verify another radio station out here in Jacksonville, Florida.
	Yes.
	Major Dames, I have two questions for you, sir.
	Number one, With the latest news item is Hussein.
	Could you possibly or would you consider possibly trying to get the coordinates of where the actual Hussein is and maybe we could drop maybe a half a dozen cruise missiles?
	Actually, we'll ask that question, but why don't we enlarge it and it looks like we're about to go back at it with Iraq once again.
	Yep.
	Do you have any information at all On what lies ahead with Iraq, and with respect to the caller's question, can we identify the location of this jerk and, you know?
	The only work that our company did, and I think I faxed, this is on our website, in our special project section.
	Also, I faxed a copy of this to you about four or five months ago.
	We established where Saddam Hussein was hiding His largest biological warfare agent production facility.
	He's hiding it in a fertilizer plant north of the city of Mosul.
	And we did that for the Defense Intelligence Agency.
	And you can see exactly where that plant is.
	We have a map of the area and we have our report on our website.
	That's all the work we did as a prelude to what's about to happen.
	There's a problem with Saddam Hussein that we experienced with both him and Muammar Gaddafi in the Libyan War.
	The problem is this.
	Saddam Hussein, many times, is escorted by children.
	And only a totalitarian dictatorship, or worse, would drop bombs on children, knowingly, wittingly.
	And I don't care how much we might pretend to hate this man, or want to kill him, the United States of America is simply not going to drop bombs on children.
	And he travels with children, so it doesn't matter where we fix him, where his position is, or his next position will be, we're not going to do that wittingly.
	The casualties that he lost, a stepson or a nephew, if I'm not mistaken, in the last war, those were inadvertent.
	We didn't intentionally seek to kill non-combatants, particularly children.
	But it is wearing thin on all of us, I think, Ed, this continual half-assed approach to Iraq.
	A few cruise missiles, a slap on the hand.
	Even the Russians, who have been pretty tight with the Iraqis, have finally given up and they wrote a letter saying, look, we'll basically wash our hands of this, you guys are on your own.
	It's going too far.
	Either we're going to have to go in there and do something really serious, or we're going to have to come up with a new plan.
	But this constant year after year threat of war, something's got to change.
	That's common, I guess.
	So there's nothing that you can tell us from remote viewing about the resolution ultimately of this?
	I think it's at the beginning of of a destiny that we're just going to have to face.
	I mean, it may be choreographed, and we may all be buying into this script,
	but it's the start of something big.
	All right.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Art?
	Yes.
	Hey, hey.
	I'm sure you're sick and tired of hearing this, but it's so great to have you back.
	Thank you.
	We've really missed, and you're in our prayers.
	I just want to make sure I have this right.
	Ed Daines is saying that he remote-viewed about the Market Abuse and he thinks it's some kind of inoculation series or something like that?
	It's all quite clear, yes.
	Then I have a comment.
	An inoculation for an AIDS vaccine?
	No, it is an AIDS vaccine itself.
	An inoculation, yes.
	Okay, and this is my comment.
	I think Ed is doing a major disturbance to the world and people of the earth because It's not going to be an inoculation.
	It does have to do with money.
	I'm not a Bible thumper, and I don't have complete faith in that, but I do believe in self-fulfilling prophecy and things like that.
	And what it has to do with is people's love of money.
	If you can control money, you can control everybody.
	Okay, well, what are you basing this on?
	Okay, if you took away paper currency from everybody in this country and made it all electronic, You wouldn't know.
	Every single purchase that everybody made, you would have complete control of where they're going, what their buying trends are, and that's giving up your life.
	I see.
	And you're saying that is the mark of the beast.
	It has to be, because you're saying, I am going to choose giving up my mortal soul over having the use of money.
	Now, right now, I can buy a car.
	I live in Seattle, by the way.
	I'm listening to you on Como.
	I can buy a car from anybody out here on the street.
	They can give me a receipt for $100.
	Now, I made a game $1,800, and I only pay taxes on it for $100.
	It's that privacy issue.
	When you take all privacy away from people, you won't be able to get away with anything.
	Well, they're working on that now.
	Transactions in excess of $10,000.
	For example, if you were to win it in a casino, They've got the IRS guy right there to make note of it.
	So, we're really well on our way to that, whether that turns out to be the mark or not.
	We're near the bottom of the hour.
	My guest is Major Ed Dames.
	By the way, if you would like a copy of this program, it will be a five-hour program.
	The number to call is 1-800-917-4278.
	Let me repeat that.
	1-800-917-4278.
	Don't touch that dial.
	Major Ed Dames said that he had a remote viewing of one-third of the Earth's population succumbing in the year 2001.
	Was that correct?
	Ed?
	That's correct.
	Okay, I have a couple questions that come from my Christian background, and they are as follows, and I was wondering, as far as remote viewing, and even if that wasn't in that capacity, have you an opinion you could express concerning the following two things of the King James Version of the Bible?
	One being the two witnesses, and the other topic being the, quote, rapture of the church.
	The rapture is an event that is not quite settled on by the church.
	Is the rapture real or not?
	Whereas the two witnesses that are talked about again in Revelations, that's something that the church, they are there.
	That's one of the hallmark passages in Revelations that I did not subject to remote viewing.
	However, I find it's very interesting, the two witnesses, because that occurs as part
	of the seventh seal.
	And we didn't look at that.
	And was it correct, sir, that you were saying that the seventh seal was at in the same conversation
	concerning the year 2001?
	The event that is described in Revelations as killing one-third of the population of
	the world, and the event that SciTech in the past has described as being a solar event
	that does extreme damage to the Earth, appears to be the same event.
	That event occurs probably based upon where, based upon the timelines for the fielding
	of an AIDS vaccine.
	That probably, that event occurs in 2001.
	I see.
	Well, that's absolutely fascinating.
	I think I'm going to have to get into my Bible a little bit more and see what's going on with it.
	Well, I think what we would like to do on my end is to look at these two witnesses, because that's, the two witnesses that first appear and begin to preach, and they preach according to the revelations for something like I have one more comment concerning that please.
	This is an important event in space time and we want to get more detail on that event.
	I have one more comment concerning that please.
	I had heard from other Bible teachers in my studies here that the ancient calendar
	compared to the one that we're operating on now could be as much as three to seven years off in its
	original origin, if you follow me.
	I agree, and that was all the more reason why, uh, why finding out whether or not we are in the end times, as described by Jesus Christ and modern day man wondering about that, Where we were in time, and ergo the importance of that one term that doesn't appear in Revelations, but other places in the Bible where Christ Himself describes the abomination of desolation.
	When you see it standing where it ought not, then you will know at the end times.
	So that was a key passage for us.
	And we took a lot of time to investigate what that actually meant.
	I described that earlier.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you, Culler.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Scitech's Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi, Major Dames.
	Where are you, sir?
	I'm calling from Chicago.
	OK.
	And, you know, Art and Major Dames, I have kind of a question and a rebuttal for that one small question that was asked a while back.
	from your faxer about the rock.
	Oh yes.
	And Major Dames, I was wondering if you would agree with this, that to that man that asked
	that question, I would say to him that that unmovable rock in question is actually is
	represented by his disbelief in God.
	Does that make sense?
	Yes.
	Ed, you want to comment?
	I answered.
	I understand what you're saying, but I don't know what to do with it.
	So it's fine.
	I just... I thought you'd jump all over that one, Major Danes.
	No.
	Not unless he's done the work.
	I'm a simple man.
	I have a simple job.
	And that one's a little bit... that's epistemologically too difficult for me to handle.
	I see.
	Good honest answer, anyway.
	I agree.
	And thank you.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Um, let's see.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	I'm Bob in Orlando.
	Orlando, okay.
	Yeah, I wish they'd play you for a full five hours.
	They'd cut you off at 5 o'clock.
	Do they?
	Well, you know what they can do?
	They can pick up some of our pre-feeds, and that'll add up to five hours.
	We pre-feed three hours of program now.
	Oh, great.
	Beginning at 7 o'clock Pacific.
	Or 10 o'clock your time.
	I was curious, how does one go about learning to remote view?
	I'm a dream psychic of sorts, but I'd love to try that.
	This is how my employees and I make our living.
	We teach this and we sell the tapes that we've produced.
	Where is that?
	Where is that?
	Okay, good question, good opportunity.
	Ed?
	This is how my employees and I make our living.
	We teach this and we sell the tapes that we produced.
	The tapes can be ordered through our website or you can call a couple of numbers to get
	them.
	I'm going to call my wife.
	If you'd like more information about the tapes and your internet capable, it's good to go to our website because the complete background is there.
	Plus, you can interact with real people any time of the day or night.
	Otherwise, you can dial 1-888-878-0333.
	That's a live operator.
	Try that again.
	1-881-L.
	1-888-878-0333.
	Okay.
	Or if you want to talk to a machine, that's 1-877-878-1777.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	That sounds great.
	Okay, there you go.
	Okay. Or if you want to talk to a machine, that's 1-877-878-1777.
	Okay. All right. That's sounds great. Okay, there you go. I wonder, I wonder percentage wise how many people opt to
	talk to a machine versus a human? Some of us are shy, Art.
	I know.
	But you've got both, so you ought to be able to tell me.
	Where do you get most of the response?
	That's not my department.
	I have to go into our marketing distribution.
	I hardly have time to keep up with myself.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Good evening, Art.
	Good evening, Ed.
	Two questions, if I may.
	This is Mark from Tucson, Arizona.
	790-90-KNST News Talk.
	Major Ed Dames, on the semi-extinction level solar event, is it possible, is that something that is fixed?
	Is that a fatalistic thing?
	Or is the future, as we hear from others, possibly in flux?
	As far as I'm concerned, it's fixed.
	It's an event of such magnitude that Um, for all intents and purposes, it appears to be fixed.
	Now, don't get me wrong here.
	I'm a firm believer in prayer.
	And I don't think there's anything more powerful in terms of the human... That's what I was alluding to.
	But I'm also a practical man.
	I'm a very practical man.
	And, uh, it is not practical to think That collectively we've got it together enough to stop the war that's about to occur in the Mideast, those kinds of things, much less a physical, geophysical event or earthquakes, things like that, that's on the horizon.
	So I'm pretty much a pessimist along those lines.
	But you think there could be no possibility of it being changed?
	I believe in a grander force, and I think that that force seems to indicate to us.
	Let me put it a technical way.
	If we can, as remote viewers, perceive an event, it is almost a fait accompli.
	There hasn't been a case where we discern something that's coming, and it hasn't happened because of prayer.
	I understand.
	It's almost as if it already happened in another reality and we're just catching up with it here in a physical material sense.
	I understand.
	I have obtained Module 1 and I admit I haven't actually started it yet.
	I've reviewed the tape several times, but I've ordered Module 2.
	Cytec acknowledged receipt of the order on July 2nd by email and although I've emailed
	back on the orders inquiry line, I haven't yet received module 2.
	Is there some other step you could recommend by which I could see what my order status
	is for module 2?
	You can email me directly.
	Okay, I know where that link is on the site.
	Okay, email me directly.
	To be totally honest, I didn't want to go to the top of the company for a simple matter of an order.
	That's not a simple matter.
	Everything that we do is that training tape and it's very important to us.
	We're very proud of those tapes, and it's very important to us to train people, and that's not a trivial matter, so you should always go to the top anyway.
	I do.
	Okay.
	I will do that, Major Ed Baines.
	Thank you very much, and Art, thanks for coming back.
	Glad you're here.
	Thank you, sir, and take care.
	I do the same thing.
	I always go right to the top.
	I'll spend about two minutes with somebody who's feeding me a line of obvious bull and then I ask for a manager and then it gets done.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames, hi.
	Hello, calling from Memphis, Tennessee.
	Memphis, yes ma'am.
	Yes, I'd like to make some comments.
	I've been studying Bible prophecy for a while and I believe that the Bible tells what the abomination of desolation is.
	The Antichrist will desecrate the newly built Jewish temple, probably by sacrificing a pig on the altar, as his forerunner Antiochus Epiphanes did.
	And he will put himself on the throne, calling himself God.
	Also, I agree with the lady about the mark will be in the forehead or the hands.
	The mark, if you take it, means eternal damnation.
	Satan is the prince of the air and his fallen angels can appear as angels of light.
	They could be editing some of this.
	One more thing, if you say the Mark of the Beast is AIDS, and I don't think it is, it will have to be implemented by the Antichrist.
	No, he didn't say that.
	He said Mark was the inoculation.
	Uh, for AIDS, the, uh, the inoculation.
	An AIDS vaccine.
	Yeah.
	It's an effective vaccine.
	Uh, well, now, uh, the Antichrist could use that to cause everyone to take it, but I want to say that Christians will be protected.
	We will be maybe fed and led, maybe like Moses and the Israelites were during the Exodus, so everyone should look up.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, ma'am.
	Take care.
	Um, wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames, hi.
	Mr. Ruppert?
	Hello?
	Yes, I have three questions.
	I'll try to get them through.
	Where are you, sir?
	Ray from San Antonio, Texas, WAI Radio.
	Of course.
	Glad to have you back.
	It's nice talking to you, Eric.
	In terms of biblical, in regards to talking about the Bible this morning, there's a question that I've been wondering real hard about.
	God went to the Tribble all this long, down through the centuries, to preserve what has been purported to be Noah's Ark at the Mount Sinai.
	Then that means he would probably intended to keep it preserved on through the Tribulation until the time peace is ushered in.
	So therefore he would put it on worldwide display.
	So would that area where Noah's Ark be a safe haven?
	And under what circumstances it would be interesting to note under which you could remote view the circumstances leading up to and under what circumstances he would bring it out after the tribulation and put it on world display?
	All right.
	The only thing that we could do that would be easy to do and that we could And what would be effective or practical use of remote viewing would be to remote view the location, the present location of Noah's Ark, assuming that it's intact.
	In fact, we have done that.
	We've done some cursory sessions years ago.
	And as the training officer for your nation's military team, I gave that to my advanced students in the unit.
	And the information that we put together Indicates that Noah's Ark is intact in a cave in Jordan.
	A cave that has not been opened.
	Not on Mount Ararat, huh?
	No, not on Mount Ararat.
	In a cave in Jordan.
	Today, modern Jordan.
	And that was the cursory information that we put together.
	So what good is that?
	You know, it's of interest.
	And it was an interesting target.
	A cave in Jordan.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	First time callers call area 702-727-1222.
	Uh, Bellevue, Nebraska?
	Okay, Mike, I had to cut that out.
	We don't allow last names on the air, so if you would, let's try it again.
	You're only Mike from... Mike from Bellevue, Nebraska.
	Okay.
	And my question is, has he looked into the implant chip as being part of the Mark of the Beast?
	Uh, I heard on your show a while back where somebody had bought groceries and they scanned the hand.
	And it rang up on the cash register and supposedly deducted money right from their account.
	That's right.
	And I was kind of wondering if that had something to do with the Mark of the Beast since it has to do with the buying and selling of goods.
	That I couldn't tell you.
	That is the very excellent thing about technical remote viewing.
	You don't have to wonder anymore.
	You can know.
	And what we do is we take the phrase, we take the target, and we find out what it means in terms of... We don't speculate like the churches had to do for 20 centuries plus about what this means, about what the mark means.
	Anybody that's trained in this technique can download the information and its meanings in terms of contemporary meanings.
	And I'm quite aware of all the speculation that is involved with the number 666 and the mark of the Beast.
	But when we remote view it, everybody gets the same thing.
	Right.
	It's not a chip.
	It's not a barcode.
	Those kinds of things.
	It is what it is.
	I think on our show they also said something about this chip actually being called the Beast.
	There is a computer called the Beast.
	A big mainframe computer called the Beast.
	Okay.
	Okay?
	That's what was said.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right, thanks.
	Thanks very much for the call.
	West of the Rockies, without a lot of time, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Yeah, hi.
	Hey, Art, I sent you an email and a fax a couple times over the last couple of weeks.
	This is Kevin from Aspen.
	Yes, sir.
	I don't know if you got those or not.
	I'm sure I did.
	Check into them.
	They're regarding all these topics.
	But I was just going to mention that in the Book of Revelation, there is only one person who is prophesied to be able to break the seven seals.
	And that person is known as the Lamb in the Book of Revelation.
	And I would submit to you folks that I know that person, knew that person while he was alive, and we would have a lot to talk about if we could ever get at some length with each other.
	Art, Ed, and I. Well, I have no comment to that.
	I have no way of knowing whether you really knew the Lamb or not.
	All right, well, how about the passage in the Book of Revelation where it says that the only person who can open the seven seals is the one who is prophesied, who is the Lamb.
	And I was wondering what you and... Well, I don't think Ed specified who it was that was opening the seals, but that the sixth had been opened.
	Correct, Ed?
	The 6th, the events that are coincident with what Revelation describes as the 6th seal are imminent as far as our remote feeling is concerned.
	And, if I'm not mistaken, the Lamb is Jesus Christ himself.
	Are the trade winds blowing?
	Yes, they are.
	Very nicely are.
	Wish you were here.
	That's good.
	One day, not very far in the future, I will be there along with my wife.
	She's a native of the islands.
	And we're going to make that trip.
	We actually have a trip scheduled, Ed, and the damn airlines stopped flying to Hawaii.
	Well, I'll give you a nice tour.
	We can call it Underground Hawaii or something like that.
	Underground Hawaii.
	All right, any final words for the masses?
	Gee, you know, open lines, unscreened, we ran through the calls, and there's almost no metaphoric bullet holes in you.
	Amazing.
	Well, we're getting them from another direction.
	I'm sure you are.
	Well, until next time, whenever that is, Ed, it has been I would like to say obsessure, but some of the information is not too pleasurable, but being with you certainly is.
	We'll take a look at your photos and we'll get some more information on the defect in that vaccine.
	Now that'll be fun.
	The photos particularly.
	So on the next program you will have already looked.
	Then you'll, or maybe even before then, fax me when you get it.
	I'll do it.
	All right.
	Take care, Ed.
	Thank you, Art.
	That's Major Ed Dames, SciTech's Major Ed Dames, folks.
	And that's also the end of another week of Talk Radio.
	It's going to be a good one next week, so see you again, well, Sunday on Dreamland, and then Monday night, Tuesday morning with, once again, Coast to Coast AM.
	There's nothing like it.

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