Glenn Kimball and Hilly Rose reveal Jesus’ family—including four brothers from Joseph’s first marriage—was wealthy, tied to the House of David, and fled to England post-crucifixion, where Mary died in 48 AD near King Arthur’s burial site. Vatican manuscripts, protected by Goths, expose lost texts like James’ and Thomas’ gospels, while Kimball’s research ties Jesus to India, Druidic Pilate, and pre-Columbian artifacts. Callers debate sacred names, African origins, and Gnostic teachings, with Kimball citing suppressed texts and cross-cultural accounts. His work suggests mainstream religion overlooked Jesus’ true lineage and global influence, buried by political censorship and misaligned calendars like the 7-year Dionysius error. [Automatically generated summary]
I am Hilly Rose, sitting in and wishing you a kind and gentle night.
Tonight is History Night.
History of the childhood of Jesus.
It's not a religious thing.
It's historical.
What it is, is information that has been developed over 25 years about the mystery, not the mystique, but the mystery of the family of Jesus and about Jesus himself.
You're going to be really fascinated for information that you have never heard before.
So in order for me to catch up with myself here, I will take a very brief pause and then we will come back and talk about not the mistake, not the religious aspect, but something, and if you believe in the Bible and all the stories in the Bible, this will only reinforce what you believe.
But you will come at it from a different perspective.
You will come at it from a historical standpoint.
And I think this will be really, really, really fascinating.
I am Hillary Rose, and we will continue after this.
There was a peace treaty signed today concerning the Holy Land, and my personal opinion is it is as likely to fail as the other accords were, the Camp David Accords.
There's too much strife in the Middle East, and maybe we can talk about that later on on an open line.
But right now, I want to tell you about the Holy Land, my visits to the Holy Land.
One of the most fascinating things about going there is that you come back and realize that the Bible is not all fiction.
Maybe it's not fiction in any way.
I don't know.
But what I do know is that when you're there, people will tell you, and this is making this up hypothetically, if the Bible says Ruth was in Beersheba and she went to the well and it was next to the oak tree,
and you go there and you go to Beersheba and you see the oak tree, and it says she walked 40 paces and you walked 40 paces, and sure enough, you dig down, or they digged it, they dug down over the years, and found that there was a well right where the Bible said it would be.
And there are many, many other artifacts like that.
The underground city that you go to, they have dug out under the existing Jerusalem and have found another city underneath it from many years ago.
And so there is no way you can say that the Bible is not a real historical record, excepting you've got to find out where these stories came from.
So that's why we're going to go to our guest tonight.
He is a man who has spent some 25 years researching Jesus and his family.
And he felt it was time that the world understood the history of all this.
And it's not a bit different than the works of, let's say, Zechariah Sitchin, who went back to the Sumerian to, I guess you call them, they're not artifacts, they're tablets, that's what they are.
They're tablets.
And they tell a story.
Different kind of story, but nonetheless, it is the precursor to the history of the Bible, of Jesus, and of Jesus' family.
I want to introduce to you now Glenn Kimball, who is the man that has spent some 25 years of his life digging around, getting the information, which he says has been there all the time.
Well, through the Library of Congress, and especially if you have access to the European, great British libraries or the French libraries or the Scottish libraries, you can find most of this information as public information still today.
I've lived in several places around the world, in Mexico and South America and Europe for a while.
And when I was a young man, on my days off, I befriended two of my very closest friends were Catholic priests.
And we used to sit down and play cards and talk and laugh.
And inquirying them over a card table, I found out that they were in a sort of exile from the Vatican, had been security force at the Vatican Library, and began telling me tales about how extensive the documents were that were in that 17 miles of library rows there.
As a matter of fact, the Vatican has made a public statement here in the last year about the great blue fungus plague that is plaguing many of the ancient manuscripts and documents in the Vatican.
That's a well-known fact.
The common man doesn't understand how significant That destruction is, but it is one of the greatest tragedies in our day.
Well, you must understand that the Romans were famous for one thing.
They were famous for book burnings.
They were famous for telling the people what they should know, but they were also famous for keeping a copy.
The book burnings in the second century, which were deliberately intended to exclude all the writings of women and about women, really wiped out many of the local churches and their libraries.
However, the Vatican itself put a lot of those books, took copies of them and put them in the Vatican.
And when the Goths and Viscos came down from the north and toppled the Roman Empire, the 6th century is really the era of public disclosure for many of the ancient documents about the time of Jesus.
So many of the documents that we have today about Jesus and his life come from copies from the 6th century.
The Goths and Viscos had a personal interest in those documents because they were descendants of the great house of David or the family of Jesus themselves, which is an amazing coincidence.
So they had a personal interest in toppling the, not only toppling the Roman Empire, but in preserving the documents and disseminating the information that had been hidden for centuries.
However, we know what day Jesus, not the day, but certainly the year that Jesus was born by the events themselves.
We know, for example, that Herod, who persecuted the baby Jesus and killed all the two-year-old children in and around Bethlehem, died a very specific day.
He died of a great lunar eclipse that can be traced back today.
We know exactly what date that was, and it was in 4 BC.
And so Jesus had to have been born before 4 BC.
We also know from Kepler in the 16th century, who had had the records himself of what the Star of Bethlehem really was.
It was the merger of Jupiter and Saturn in the constellation of Pisces.
And he had gotten his information from the prophet Daniel and Micah and several of the very historic rabbis that have kept the records of the Messiah text over the years.
And he records that the star of Bethlehem appeared again in 1603, and he described the star of Bethlehem in the eastern sky, which was the merger of Jupiter and Saturn.
And that event we can retrace back on computer regenerations, and that occurred four times in the year 7 B.C. Okay, let me just reassure some people who are saying, wait a minute, I know my Bible, that what you are saying and will be saying tonight is not contradictory to the Bible, but it is filling in the holes, as it were.
As a matter of fact, if anything, it vindicates everything that it's said in there.
It's just that there are so many gaps in the Bible.
For example, we have one page in the Bible that talks about his birth in each of the Gospels, and then it jumps to the last part of his ministry and ignores the rest of his life.
And so Jesus has been raised to the status of myth.
And if anything, what I have tried to do is eliminate the myth part, and let's get him back into the position where he originally was.
Joseph, who married the Virgin Mary, clearly was married before he married the Virgin Mary, and he had four children.
And so James, who was James the just of the Bible, is Jesus' older brother from Joseph's first marriage, and she died, and he was a widower at the time he married the Virgin Mary.
Again, because I want to end up this segment to people understanding, we are talking About historical documents that have always been there, just that nobody has gone in to uncover it like you have in the last 25 years.
Yeah, The Hidden Stories of the Childhood of Jesus is a Christmas book talking about his early years.
But the second book is called The Hidden Politics of the Crucifixion, which is a book which contains the letters of Pontius Pilate, Herod, Tiberius Caesar, and Augustus Caesar back and forth to each other discussing the crucifixion itself and also the writings of Nicodemus, who was the best friend of Joseph of Arimathea.
This book is going to be just hot because it tells the story from the other perspective.
Okay, so hail, hail, the gang's all here, Caesar and all of his boys, and we will continue and talk with Glenn Kimball in just a moment right here on Coast to Coast A.M., the Art Bell Show.
My guest tonight, Glenn Kimball, who himself has been a talk show host for a number of years in Salt Lake City and is very involved.
Now he's no longer a talk show host.
I guess once you are, you always are, Glenn.
But he is spending all of his time now on research and getting out the historical facts.
And that's what we are focusing on tonight.
So again, I want to assure anybody listening that we're not trying to shake up your belief in the Bible or your interpretation of the Bible or anything like that.
What we are trying to do is fill in the gaps, give you the information that verifies and documents that what it says in the Bible actually is true.
It's just we're coming at it from a somewhat different perspective.
By the way, before I forget, in case you've just tuned in and say, well, what did Art Bell say?
What did Art Bell say?
What he said is, and this is the quick message, he's coming back next Wednesday.
And we will replay that particular conversation, I guess, in the next hour.
So stick with me, and we continue here with Glenn Campbell.
Glenn, let me sort of jump around a little bit.
Let me get the headlines out.
And then perhaps in the next hour we can go sequentially.
Everybody knows, I mean, this is common knowledge.
There's no doubt about it, that Jesus' father was a poor carpenter, and Jesus himself was a poor carpenter.
Well, the word carpenter is mistranslated from the Greek, the word tech, from which we get our word architect.
Jesus' father was really a contractor, an architect, a surveyor, and a builder of cities and great palaces and thrones.
As a matter of fact, there's a very well-recorded manuscript where Jesus helps his father build one of the thrones for one of the kings.
And obviously, this isn't building wooden fences and spones and things.
Joseph was a very wealthy man.
He came from the throne of David, and that throne carried with it great wealth and substance.
We all overlook one fact.
When the Magi came to visit Jesus, they brought with them a king's ransom of gold, frankincense, and myrrh that would have made any family wealthy for a hundred years.
We gloss right over that and say, well, instantly Jesus was back poor again.
The logic of that doesn't hold water, and obviously the historical evidence doesn't hold water either.
When Jesus' earthly father, Joseph, died when he was about 14, you notice that Joseph isn't anywhere in the crucifixion story at all.
Under Jewish law, his great-uncle took over the protectorship of the family, and his great-uncle was a man named Joseph of Arimathea.
And Joseph of Arimathea was named noblest decurio by Caesar himself and was the third wealthiest man on the planet at that time.
And so part of the reason we don't have histories about Jesus is because he had the ability to sail the world with his great uncle and involved in the great tin and lead mine business, the mining business of his great uncle.
And they had, as a matter of fact, the wealth of the family was actually the wealth that underwrote the early ministries of all of the apostles as they sailed around the world.
And we often think, well, maybe they hitched a ride on a boat someplace and visited someplace.
But it makes sense, really, because it's the wealthy, and especially in those years, who have the power to be heard and to do what they want to do.
So if you look at it from that perspective, you begin to understand that, yeah, that really could have happened.
Another thing that makes me, it just blows my mind, is that Mary actually came from England, not came from England, but spent a lot of time in England.
She was the first, established the first Christian church in England.
Well, her mother, St. Anna, and by the way, St. Anna is very famous all around the world.
She is one of the patron saints of England, was born in England.
And you ask, how in the world was the mother of the Virgin Mary born in England?
I have to tell you that at 600 B.C., when the Babylonians came in to conquer Palestine at that moment in history, a great number of the royal family, as well as a lot of other people, had to get out of town.
And just like in the Greeks who had to Get out of town at the time of the Trojan War.
We know that Brutus, who was the father of England itself, said he had a dream of Diana, where she told him to go through the gates of Hercules and find the most peaceful place in all the world.
And the gates of Hercules were obviously the rock of Gibraltar, and the place that they went was also England.
So England was a sanctuary for royal families in exile.
And the house of David is no exception to this rule.
Part of the reason why the story of the history of England is so intimately connected with Jesus is because their family not only emigrated there or sought sanctuary there, but they also had business there.
Joseph of Arimathea was named Noblest de Curio by the Roman Caesar because he owned the great tin and lead mines there.
Well, her mother was born in England and reverse immigrated back into Palestine just before the birth of Mary and married a man named Joachim.
However, after Jesus' crucifixion, there was a great exodus called the Exodus of the Faithful in 36 AD, and Mary reverted back and escaped Jerusalem under the protectorship of Joseph of Arimathea once again.
And where did she go to?
She went to Great Britain where she lived and died toward the end of her life in 48 AD.
And by the way, most of those documents are not in the canon.
They were excluded for a very political reason after the death of Jesus.
For example, we have a good copy, an excellent copy of the Gospel of Thomas, which is the most prolific, wonderful book with the sayings of Jesus anywhere you can go.
And that book is not in the Bible, but we have a good copy of that found on the banks of the Nile River in 1945 in the Nag Hammadi Library.
An excellent, excellent example of a book that they knew about at the time of the creation of the canon, but was a book that was excluded from the canon for a political reason.
If you want to talk about sheer numbers, the Vatican, obviously, number one.
Number two, in the Great British Museum and in the Royal Archives of the Library of England, because their history is so intimately connected with this history in France and in Scotland, obviously there are still some very, very good copies in Egypt.
You've got to remember at the time of Jesus, when the Jews were in control of Palestine at the time of Jesus, it was outlawed to have anything in your synagogue except the five books of Moses.
And so in 73 B.C., they hired a delegation of seven priests from each of the tribes of Israel to go to Egypt to retrieve the books which we now call the Old Testament.
We would not have had the Old Testament had they not left the country and sought the Old Testament in the great library of Alexandria, which burned in 63 B.C. Don't sound like fun folks.
That library had 740,000 scrolls, it is estimated.
And so the numbers of books that were excluded even from the Old Testament, the Old Testament refers to about 84 books that are not included in the Old Testament, but the number of books that could have been included in the Old Testament is mind-boggling.
Glenn, this is on a slightly different subject, but I just want to get it out of the way.
It's my curiosity, my personal curiosity.
And in your book, Hidden Stories of the Childhood of Jesus, you've got just one sentence that makes so much sense to me because I'm a believer that there is an entity that we all descend from.
And I believe that this is an extraterrestrial somehow, some way.
It doesn't negate God, does not negate Jesus, but it just somehow blew me away when I read this one sentence in your book, which says it's a bizarre story.
You say it's bizarre, which nobody can take literally, but I have to wonder about it.
It says, in one story, Jesus slides down a beam of light.
Well, that doesn't seem so far-fetched to me, because if you really study and read all the information about the possibility that we are descendants of extraterrestrials, and Moses comes down from a mountain, and we have all these people who pray to volcanoes and what have you.
And if that bears any fruit at all, and I realize this has nothing to do with your research, it's just a personal thing I wanted to ask you, is it not possible then, if Jesus comes down on a beam of light, that that would verify that there are extraterrestrials?
Well, there are ancient texts which speak of the fact that Jesus was the Savior of many worlds.
And when we say worlds, we're talking about planets, I suspect, from the texts.
So, you know, I probably am not the foremost scholar in the world with regard to extraterrestrials, nor do I write about them, nor are they included in my book.
But that seems logical to me that there are, in fact, other entities.
I remember the first abduction of the great Southern Baptist gentleman in the 50s that was abducted, lost three days of his life.
And under hypnosis, he said that he had the presence of mind to ask the beings about Jesus because he was a minister, a Baptist minister.
And they said, well, Jesus is the Savior of many worlds.
And that particular quote, the 50s, caught my attention as a young child.
The betrothal of Mary and Joseph is also another story in my book.
It was also fulfillment of prophecy.
No one knows how Joseph and Mary met or how Joseph was selected to be her husband.
Joseph had no intentions of marrying the Virgin Mary.
And the story of that selection is one of the most interesting stories and answers to an ancient prophecy, which also is not included in the Bible, that I've ever heard in my whole life.
Well, basically, the prophecy had said that the one who was to be betrothed to the virgin would bring his staff to the temple, and that out of his staff would sprout a flower, and a dove would land on his shoulder.
So when Mary became of age to be betrothed, they gathered every single bachelor in the whole country, and they came and they brought their staffs to the temple gates.
You know, their staff, which was also a representation of their family, they had their family crests on them oftentimes, depending upon how wealthy they were.
And they brought them to the temple, and nothing happened.
And a voice came out of the Holy of Holies in the temple and said, he who has not brought his staff is the one to be chosen.
So they scoured the countryside looking for the person who was to be betrothed to the Virgin Mary, come to find out one of the few people that had been excluded was Joseph himself.
He had already been married.
He had been a widower, was a rich man.
And they asked him to bring his staff.
And when he brought his staff, a flower sprout out of the staff, and a dove landed on his shoulder, and whammo, Bamo, the betroll was on.
When Joseph was away on a building project, he was out of town for three months.
When he came back, he found her with child.
And then the great biblical story clicks in that he wanted to put her away privately, but an angel told him not to do that.
And he opted to marry her instead.
It was a matter of honor for him.
And obviously the events surrounding his selection process motivated him to do that.
And, you know, they didn't have Cadillacs in those days, but she had the finest donkey in the land.
And they went to Bethlehem to pay their taxes.
And en route, Mary, there's a great story about Mary going into labor, which is also in my book.
En route, she went into labor, and she told, Joseph had his son James with him at that time, and he told James to watch over her while he went and found a midwife to help deliver the baby.
And so Joseph went to find a midwife, and she sat in a cave at that point in time and waited for Joseph to return.
And that's where our common tradition and the realities of the facts differ in that sense of the word.
They did go eventually the next day after the birth of Jesus to the inn.
Joseph could have afforded to buy the inn at the time, but there were so many visitors from out of town and there were so few rooms that they opted to take room at the stable.
He wouldn't have been offered room at the stable had he not been politically powerful and influential anyway.
But anyway, there was this great story of the midwife who delivered the baby Jesus, and that story's been around for 2,000 years and included in my book.
And it's a real fascinating story.
This lady, Salome, eventually became a servant of the family, obviously implicating once again that the family was wealthy and followed them the rest of their life.
And in fact, Salome went with the Virgin Mary, escaped Jerusalem after the crucifixion and went to England with her where she died as well.
His wife, Claudia Procula, had converted to Christianity, or converted to Judaism at this point in time.
She was the granddaughter of Tiberius Caesar.
She had kept Pilate informed for all of his life about this Jesus character.
And she was very fascinated, was a fledgling disciple, I suspect.
Anyway, at the time of the crucifixion, she went out in the street, was upset over the events of the earthquakes and the tremblings and the darkness, etc.
And she saw the resurrected Jesus, according to the ancient manuscripts.
She went home and told Pontius Pilate, hey, I saw the guy yet crucified walking the streets.
And Pilate took an armed guard of 50 men, scared him to death, took an armed guard of 50 men, went out into the streets and met with this resurrected Jesus and had a conversation with him, which is also recorded in an ancient manuscript, which we have very good copies of.
He took a scribe with him, and that dialogue between the resurrected Jesus and Pontius Pilate is recorded in my second book.
There are hundreds and hundreds of manuscripts that describe his 40-day ministry with his apostles and various visits with him in known places around the world.
Well, obviously, the Bible before the Bible was a book called The Only Rule of Our Faith, which was the writings of Jesus' brothers about the family.
The Bible came into existence with the Great Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. But this book that was written, or these collection of manuscripts that were written by Jesus' brothers, were totally excluded from the Bible.
And they are the ones that talk about the Virgin Mary and about Jesus' early life and about the family and the real nature of the family itself from a very personal perspective.
We are talking tonight about the historical facts surrounding Jesus.
We're talking with Glenn Kimball, who has spent 25 years researching the files of the Vatican and other places around the world.
And he says you can go almost any library and get some of this information.
And I want to re-emphasize that we are not taking a point of view about the Bible.
The information that we are presenting tonight, what we are giving you, is historical fact that literally supports the Bible.
So I'm not trying to get interpretations or who said what and what the biblical interpretations can be.
That's a big discussion all its own.
We are only dealing with fact tonight.
Glenn, I want to bring you back in here and indicate that, because I haven't done that yet, you're the author of Hidden Stories of the Childhood of Jesus.
You've got another book that's coming out shortly about King Arthur.
Yeah, you know, that always sort of amazed me that if Jesus was otherworldly, as it were, or the Son of God, why didn't he know that Judas was going to do this?
Historically, Jesus claimed he knew all of the things that were going to happen to him, and we can refer to another example.
Jesus and Pontius Pilate knew each other before the crucifixion events.
They knew of each other.
They exchanged passwords from the great Druid University where Pilate was educated.
And those passwords were used to enter the great educational debates in England.
And as I told you earlier in the former hour, Jesus' family had been in self-imposed exile in England, the safest place in the world.
And that's where his grandmother was born and was in England.
And by the way, Pontius Pilate was born in Seville, Spain, and was educated, coincidentally, in England, very near where the family of Jesus owned their minds, very near where many of the events of Jesus' family took place.
And there's little doubt now that part of the reluctance of Pontius Pilate to crucify Jesus was because he knew of the family and well respected the family and didn't want to do this to a family that he well respected from his early college days.
And by the way, we should indicate that according to you, Jesus was not the son of a carpenter, a poor carpenter, but he was part of a, not royalty exactly, but very wealthy and very influential.
He was directly in line for the throne of David, which was, by the way, deposed in the 6th century B.C. And by the time of the birth of Jesus, the reigning monarchy was the Hebrew dynasty or the dynasty of Herod and his family.
Okay, what I wanted to ask you was, if I'm to accept these various things that you're saying, and we have the story of Mary riding in on a donkey, how did all these people get from Spain to England?
They didn't have jets in those days, so it doesn't quite hang together.
Well, I'm so glad you asked that brilliant question.
That is a brilliant question.
We have to remember that in the times of Jesus, that one of the secrets to the entire ancient world was that boats could travel 40 times farther in a day than a camel could.
And so those who had access to the great sailing vessels were the ones that did most of the traveling.
And in fact, Jesus' family, being as wealthy as they did, owned fleets of merchant vessels that they used in their family business.
And that's how Jesus got around, was on the boats of his great uncle Joseph Arimathea.
And there are thousands of scholars who have come out today and talked about traveling by boat at that particular era in time.
In fact, many of them have talked about specifically the journey between Palestine and England as being a reasonably common occurrence.
The travel through the gates of Gibraltar to England was a very common event, especially for merchant traffic, because there were many products and services available in England that were useful to the Roman Empire itself.
Before I forget here, and I want to go on and talk about what happened to the family after Jesus' crucifixion, but you have a website, or is this yours or somebody else's?
It is also the home of the Ancient America Magazine, which chronicles all the things that have happened in the last couple of years in terms of archaeology on this hemisphere.
It's wonderful.
And you'll be absolutely amazed at the things that they have found in this country, which link this country to Europe long before the Normans or long before Christopher Columbus ever came to this country.
Well, we found in recent years Roman coins in this country.
In my new book, The Hidden King, which talks about King Arthur, King Arthur was a mining king, obviously took his mining experience from the family.
He was a descendant of the House of David or the family of Jesus who owned the mines in England.
And these people were interested in a specific product called gold.
And gold was prevalent in the Americas, and they did a great deal of mining here.
And the Ancient American Magazine chronicles much of the excavations in the last couple of years that are excavations of mines that occurred.
They found artifacts, coins, tools, records, writings, clothing, all kinds of things in the Americas which link the Americas with Europe from as old as the Phoenicians in 600 B.C. And it's a startling story.
However, this is not new news because they've been excavating Roman vessels off the coast of Brazil in the last two years from the first century A.D. How did the Roman vessels get off the coast of Brazil in the first century AD?
If they weren't sailing there, they weren't blown off course, They went there deliberately to do merchant traffic with the Americas.
There's many, many scientists which are hot on this trail.
Yes, that's exactly true.
As a matter of fact, the oceanographic ability of the ancient world was better than the oceanographic ability of the Dark Ages or the 12th century A.D. My good friend Gunnar Thompson, who also has a good book on the website, discusses that in his book where he actually has a copy of the map that Christopher Columbus used to discover the Americas.
And coincidentally, it has the Americas on it.
I would love to have a discovery where I had a map to find it.
He did not discover the actual continent because the continent had been discovered long ago, was a place where they went to find gold principally.
That was the attraction of the Americas.
As a matter of fact, King Arthur in some of his writings says that he had a secret treasure house in a place west of England, which he called the M-E-R-I-C-A-S or the Americas, which is for someone to have written that from the 6th century A.D. is absolutely raises the hair on the back of your head.
The numbers of ancient manuscripts, people think that from the discovery of the great Dead Sea Scrolls in the Nakamati Library, that the number of ancient texts is maybe a handful, maybe a few hundred.
That is absolutely incorrect.
There are millions.
I am tracking right now on my books over a million documents, ancient texts from the time of Jesus and before.
Well, Joseph of Arimathea was the great uncle of Jesus.
He was the brother of St. Anne or Jesus, or the Virgin Mary's mother.
Joseph of Arimathea was born in Mararica, Egypt, and he was often called Joseph of Mararica, but he lived in Arimathea.
He actually had palatial mansions around the world, including those in England.
And after the death of Jesus' earthly father, Joseph, under law, the nearest relative was to provide and protect the family.
And since this was a wealthy and powerful family, the wealthy and powerful great uncle took over the protectorship of the family.
And as you note in the Bible, Jesus was taken from the cross by Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus and buried in the family tomb.
That is a biblical reference for those who are well read in the Bible.
And we often think that Joseph of Arimathea was some stranger or somebody not associated with the family.
That is not true.
Joseph of Arimathea was the acting father of Jesus for the majority of his young adult life.
And is also the patron saint of England.
St. Joseph is extremely well known throughout the world, especially in the Catholic world, and is probably the figurehead, the originator of much of the politics, much of the royal bloodlines, much of the discussion of history in England itself.
There was a great argument between the great Arius in the 3rd century A.D. and the local fragmented churches around the world.
There were more Christian churches at the time after the death of Jesus than there are today.
The great council of Nicae, Nicaea, was arranged for to settle the disputes.
And the most popular books that were in the churches, remember they didn't have Gutenberg presses or Xerox machines.
So all of these churches had different sets of libraries, and they argued which library was the best and who had the most and who had the most credible things.
So the Great Council of Nicaea, by the way, sat over by Constantine the Caesar himself, who was actually a descendant of Jesus.
He was Jesus' family.
He was a descendant of the house of David and also a relative of King Arthur, by the way.
So the Bible that we have is really a composite of a group of documents that were voted on.
The Bible could not have been all of the books that were there because we have so many thousands of books that were excluded and thousands of books that were revered in the early centuries in the first and second century A.D. and were held as scripture in the early Christian churches.
We know, for example, that there are hundreds of letters of Paul, only a few of which were adopted in the canon, and the most popular letters were there in the canon.
It is around the country, but if you don't, it's upon request for those stores that don't have it.
The national, the largest distributor in the world which has access to 90% of the bookstores in the country, you can request it at your local bookstore and get it.
Or you can come to our website, ancientmanuscripts.com or one of the great internet bookstores, which I'm not sure I should mention.
Amazon.com has it.
Just look up Glenn Kimball, and it'll take you right there, and you'll see some of the reviews of the books.
Well, what's really fascinating to me is that all of these people in many ways are interrelated or actually related, and it's all people who are wealthy, even though we sort of get the impression from the Bible that they're all poor folks.
This was the throne of David we're talking about here.
Jesus was the direct heir to the throne of David, which was deposed when the Babylonians came in in the 6th century.
However, that kingdom, that throne was expected to return to power at some moment in time.
And so the monarchy, even though they were in self-imposed exile, were very much, they took their money with them and they were very much looked with respect on by the rest of the Palestinian community then and throughout the centuries.
He has a strong internet presence from what I'm aware of.
Right.
Interesting printout on the net.
Interesting printout on the net, the full version of the Enuma Elish.
And I'm sure you're familiar with that.
And I just find the correlations extremely interesting that you brought up, and I'm hoping you'll touch on it later as you progress with this, but how the Sumerian texts and all the ancient antiquities that predate the Old Testament and the New Testament that derive the same stories.
And just wanted to put out there for the public notice that Zacharias Sitchin is on tour currently and will be in San Diego and other spots in November.
And I'd like to give the website of just the information that's really quickly.
To tell you the truth, I hadn't run across it, but I will.
I visited the Gospel of Commas on the website.
A couple of questions, and then I'll get off the air.
Are you familiar with the confusion over the modern day word that they use of Jew and the old world definitions, the people's names, the Hebrews, the Edomites, the Ayuti?
And another thing on the Judas Iscariot about Iscariot being where he's from.
I studied the ancient Vedic scripts of India known as the Vedas for the last 20 years.
And, you know, the Bhagavatam and the Bhagavad Gita, which is about 5,000 years old.
I'm wondering, in your research, have you at all come, you know, the Vedas target, Lord Sri Krishna is the God, absolute truth, whatever.
And I've been told that Christ imbibed some of that in his travels with his uncle, and he went to India, and it translated into his ministry portions of it.
Have you, in your research, come across anything where Christ actually went to India?
First of all, the age of Jesus is very much in question here.
If Dionysius, Nassius, as we talked about earlier, goofed on the calendar by seven years, we know Jesus died in the year 33 AD, but in fact, he was born in the year 7 B.C., which means that he was 40 years old when he died.
And by the way, that is recorded in the Messiah text, the ancient Messiah text, that the Messiah himself would die on his 40th birthday or around his 40th birthday.
And so much of our folklore about Jesus being 33 when he died is totally inaccurate.
Jesus was in his 40s and did, in fact, do a great deal of his ministry around the world earlier in his youth.
We could get into a huge discussion about that, but 40 is a number that is very prominent in the Messiah text and ancient Jewish lore.
40 days it rained for Noah, and 40 days he fasted.
40 was the number associated with the Messiah forever, forever and ever, throughout the ancient world.
The number 40 is a number that's predominant in the Bible, and people don't know why people use the word 40, but the reason why they used the year 40 was because it was in the similitude of their Messiah that was going to appear.
So as we discussed in the earlier hour, the millennium that we're approaching really has already happened, and everybody's out celebrating for no good reason.
The family of Jesus was very much under protectorship.
We could talk about the ladies and not the ladies, I shouldn't say it that way.
That's probably not an appropriate way to say that.
But Jesus was followed by an entourage of women during his time, and there was a great conflict between Peter and Jesus over this particular issue.
And Mary Magdalene herself in the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, which, by the way, we have very, very good copies thanks to recent discoveries, explores that conflict between Peter and Mary Magdalene in front of Jesus.
And Peter said at one point in time, he said, you know, you almost think that you love her more than you love us.
And Jesus turned to him, and I can feel a sense of humor in Jesus himself.
He says, that's not the question.
The question is, why do I love her more than I love you?
But yes, the actual personal family of Jesus did have to escape after the crucifixion.
There was a tremendous problem with the Sadducean authorities at that particular moment in time who usurped the authority of the Sanhedrin.
And yeah, they had to get out of town.
And yes, they did go to England on the boats of the family of Jesus.
Well, I've seen those photos, and even if I accept the early photos, you know, they had other flybys later on, and NASA says, no, there's not a face at all.
But even if I accept the face, that doesn't look to me like the Shroud of Turin.
People have searched for artifacts of Jesus for many, many centuries.
In fact, a very famous man in our time called John Lennon spent half of his life looking for the spear that lands the side of Jesus.
And that's not a commonly known fact, and yet it's certainly the case.
John Lennon wrote about it, and there is some speculation that he either found the spear that lands the side of Jesus or he knew where it was just before his death.
That's an interesting contemporary note on artifacts.
But at the great destruction of the Temple of Herod in 70 AD, most of the artifacts were carried to the Pyrenees mountains by the Romans.
They didn't melt them down and turn them into gold bullion.
They left a pillar at the site of the destruction of the Temple of Herod explaining their actions for the destruction.
And amazingly, their rationale for destroying the Temple of Herod was to vindicate Jesus.
Because the letters of Pontius Pilate and Tiberius Caesar and Herod himself talk about the reasons why.
As a matter of fact, there's a story in my second book that's up and coming about Pontius Pilate himself joining the Christian movement and being killed as a result of that movement in the praetorium of Tiberius Caesar himself.
And the reason for his beheading at that moment in time was because he allowed Jesus to be crucified.
Tiberius Caesar had sent a letter to his granddaughter, which is very famous, very well recorded, telling her to bring Jesus to Rome because he was ill and wanted the man who could heal with the word of his mouth to come to Rome and heal him of his affliction.
And that didn't get done in time before the crucifixion happened.
And I'll tell you right now, it made Tiberius Caesar very, very angry that he didn't get a chance to get the healing of Jesus.
I'm calling to talk to Glenn on the subject of the death, the burial, and the place of burial of the Most Holy Lady Mother of God.
I'm a reader in the Orthodox Church, and we take our teachings of the Fathers down from the time of those who were the fathers who were taught by the Apostles.
And according to our teachings, the Mother of God reposed in Jerusalem.
Well, we've got to understand that it was Jewish law that marriage was a sacred sacrament.
And for the leader of the Jews not to have thought that that was important in his life or for us to think that it wasn't important in his life is simply a myth.
The concept of celibacy originated from some of the comments of Peter, though Peter himself was married.
The concept of celibacy was formalized in the 8th century A.D. and was not a concept of the early Jewish communities.
We will continue here and take more of your phone calls for Glenn Kimball after these words.
Zen4 Art Bell, we're talking with Glenn Kimball about the actual historical times, the historical records of life of Jesus and all the various players that you know about from the Bible, but they all existed.
And so those of you who say, oh, the Bible's just a bunch of fairy tales, got to look at history, friends.
It really, it happened.
It's there.
And if you've ever been to the Holy Land, you know it does.
Let's go to the wild card line and talk with David in St. Louis.
Hi, David.
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Hello, Mr. Kimball.
It's a very, very interesting show.
Thank you for being a guest tonight.
Thank you.
Do any of the writings that you've seen shed any light on the use of the sacred Hebrew names like Yahweh or the Messiah's name Yahshua?
And I wanted to know, because if that is the case, is it true?
Do you think that the Messiah, his followers, were persecuted by the priests in charge of the temple worship because they used the sacred names?
Well, you need to go to my site and go under the, click on the pictures, and you'll see that we have the ancient Hebrew symbol for God, which is Yahweh.
Anyone that wants to have the actual photograph of that inscription should go to the website, and you'd see it there.
Yes, they were persecuted because of the use of the name of God.
Obviously, the name of God was sacred to them from the time of Moses because it was associated with the powers of the priesthood at that moment in time.
And for all of you who are Kabbalists out there, Kabbalahism, for example, for those of you who don't know anything about the Kabbalah, were the records from the Temple of Solomon about the use of the name of God and the powers associated with the use of the name of God.
And so it was, in fact, a very sacred term, not to be used lightly, not to be used at all in most cases.
And you're very correct.
There is a huge body of literature to this effect.
And you're going to love reading the book and following the history and the discoveries.
Without doubt, the last verse in the Gospel of John, it says that many things Jesus did, I suppose if they were all written, the world could not contain all the books that should be written.
Very likely, John was the best friend of Jesus, and there is a lot of story.
When I first started the research, I thought I'd find a few nibbles.
But let me tell you, there's an ocean of information, an absolute ocean of information.
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Oh, you bet you.
I have a question, or a couple of questions, actually, concerning how you document or authenticate your research.
I would imagine that with a large number of documents that you have, that you have to find inconsistencies or contradictions, perhaps, amongst them.
And if you do, how do you decide which is truth and which is error?
I'm enjoying your program, but I have an interesting question.
As far as the original books or manuscripts, aren't they originally from the African country?
And when you speak of books, I've noticed in the Quran, the Holy Quran, that if you read from the 16th to the 50th verse in the 19th surah or the chapter called Maryam, you'll find some interesting information about Yeshua or Isa ibn Maryim, Jesus, if you will.
There's a lot of things I think that people are misconstrued about because of the lack of study of the scriptures in the original text and in the original languages.
And I think that a lot of times we misunderstand things because we come from a Eurocentric point of view.
I'm so glad you've been on the air because we forget the Islam nation.
We forget that some of the greatest stories of the childhood of Jesus himself are in the Quran and in the Quran exclusively.
However, we've got to remember also that many of the writings of the Quran, the sayings in the Quran, actually have identical script from the first and second century written by the brothers of Jesus.
So whether or not, you know, this is up to your own personal belief, and I don't get into that particular posture myself, but some of the sayings perhaps were either prophetically given to Muhammad in his chambers or were in fact researched from ancient manuscripts and put in the Quran.
The Quran is a resource beyond measure.
Christianity has ignored the Quran, and that is a terrible, terrible tragedy.
While we're talking about the fact, it's documented, of course, that there are all these references to Jesus, since he got around so much, what about other religions?
Jesus is the fulcrum in history for all the major religions.
And when I emphasize all, that's going to be kind of a startling statement for people.
But Jesus is the prophet for Islam.
Jesus is a prophet for the Jew.
Jesus is a prophet for the Hindu, quoted in their books.
and as a matter of fact the new discoveries in our decade or perhaps in the in the next two decades will come to find out that jesus and his followers had a significant influence on the buddhist faith in the far east for example at the end We'll get right back to that point.
you Himself, an Eyewitness to Christ is a good example of a book written, not by me, but by some very well-known gentlemen who have referred to that particular research.
Well, the church was very fragmented, was left without a leader, per se.
And communication was obviously difficult during that period of time.
And so every church, everywhere that the apostles had visited, had their own beliefs, their own traditions, their own libraries, their own sayings.
And there were more, as I said earlier in the program, there were more Christian churches after the death of Jesus than there are today, Christian factions.
And that's part of the reason for the Great Council of Nicaea was to standardize and formalize a belief under one heading.
And it was brought under the control of the Roman Empire who had the political power and the financial capability to standardize a belief in Jesus.
But it was really fragmented at the time of Jesus.
And Jesus spoke of that era himself.
He said that there would be wolves that would enter the flock, not sparing the sheep.
And part of that language was excluded from the final canon because it was very critical of the future controllers of the church.
That's part of the reason why the Bible does not contain other documents than it does, is because the rest of the documents were critical of the future written by Jesus, the sayings of Jesus.
He literally negotiated between the warring factions of early Christianity and actually did a favor to some extent.
We'd never have Christianity today if it had not been for the fact that he arbitrated the disputes that were at the time of Jesus, and they settled on a course of action, a body of belief, and standardized the scriptures, threw everything else out that was important, that they thought was not germane or left them in control.
And we are left with the remnants of that era of time.
Let's go to a first-time caller line and talk with Anthony in Los Angeles.
Hi.
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Hi, Hilly.
I have a comment and a question.
My comment is brief.
I just want to say that you've done an excellent job.
I've been listening all week, and I think in this format, you should either have your own show or I've heard you over the years many times, and I think that you've done terrific.
These are the best guests I've heard in a long time on Coast to Coast.
As a matter of fact, the lead-lined casket of King Arthur spoke, he said, I'm going to return with the Messiah at his second coming.
And from the earlier program, you might have noted that King Arthur himself was of the descendants Of the house of David and obviously a descendant of the family of Jesus himself.
So Jesus left those records of his second coming very clearly with us.
We've got to note, I want to add one personal thing of myself here for a moment.
The great Jewish factions in the world are terrific people.
I love them to death.
But they missed the first coming of their own Messiah from their own records for a reason.
They missed him because they outlawed all of the scriptures except the five books of Moses in their synagogues and in Palestine.
That was the reason why the priests had to travel to Egypt to retrieve the Old Testament books because they were outlawed in their own country.
And we've made a similar kind of mistake as Christians in that we hold up our Bible and say this is all the history that there is, and we've refused to look at the fact that there might be more and help us explain this apocalyptic era in which we live.
And to be very candid with you, the ancient manuscripts speak more candidly and more clearly about our time than you can possibly imagine, and it's a subject for another program.
Let's go to the wildcard line and talk to Randy in Salt Lake City.
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Mr. Kimball, after looking up your website here, I'd be foolish to think that you have not done some investigation regarding the Book of Mormon.
What is your feeling regarding the Book of Mormon in terms of any physical, archaeological evidence, and how does it tie in or reflect Christ's depiction in it?
In the world today, there are many traditions and many ancient records and bodies of ancient texts which we should not ignore.
The Book of Mormon records, as I understand them, are records of the resurrected Jesus.
And the sightings of the resurrected Jesus, as we spoke earlier in the program, continued until the 5th century.
And if you were to look at the great body of manuscripts out there, you'd find some wonderful discoveries that might help you answer your own question.
The Book of Jasher is a clear example of books that were mentioned in the Bible but excluded from the Bible in the final vote.
Anybody that wants to read the Book of Jasher is going to find out that the Book of Jasher is a wonderful story that should have been included in the Bible.
The ancient documents seem to indicate that the idea of multiple existences, not specifically reincarnation from coming back to this earth per se, but the fact that people have multiple existences, that preexistence before they came here and an existence after they leave here, which is intimately connected with mortality, at least on some dimension.
Yes, there's extensive material about that.
In fact, I often have made the private comment that the Hindu concept of reincarnation is really a theft from ancient Christian manuscripts.
And people can pick up the book either at Amazon.com or order it, special order through any bookstore that is connected with Ingram, or they can come to my website and order it from me, and I'll be sure they get a signed copy if they come to my website.
My comment is that I find it a very eerie coincidence or a strange coincidence that the Nag Hammadi texts were found the same year that this supposed Lord Maitreya surfaced in England.
Now, my question, my question is this.
Do you believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ?
To be very candid with you, the entire book of the Bible itself is very numerologically oriented.
And there are many, many great books out in the market today.
I'm not a numerologist myself, but there are many great books out today that talk about the numerological coincidences within the Bible.
And that's not my, my focus is primarily history, but you're absolutely correct.
In fact, if you were to, there have been people who have taken the Bible and put it into a computer and looked for random patterns and found all kinds of eerie things.
The Jews, to make an interesting story, however, historically speaking, the Jews were very pneumologically oriented.
As a matter of fact, the number 40, which happens to be the age of the Messiah, has a great significance in Jewish lore.
Even to this day, the number 33 has no significance whatsoever in Jewish lore.
And so it's part of the evidence of the fact that the ancient texts spoke of the age of Jesus as being the age of 40 when he died.
Yeah, I feel badly about that because, you know, I don't want to challenge anybody's beliefs here, but all you're saying is this is an actual document of what really happened.
I mean, whether the resurrection happened or anything of that sort, but indeed, you've Documented that somebody did see Jesus four days after he was crucified.
Yes, there's a great body of near-death experience literature, near-death-like experience literature in the ancient text.
We can even go back as far as the ancient Greeks.
They spoke, Cicero and Plato and people like that spoke prolifically about near-death experience, where they saw their ancestors after death in a near-death-like experience.
It's important, though, here's an interesting historical fact, that in my new book, I talk about the events of the resurrection, and the ancient prophets were resurrected along with Jesus.
At least there's a text to that effect that they were resurrected along with Jesus were walking the streets.
And not only were they walking the streets in Palestine and Jerusalem, but there are records that indicate that the dead were rising out of the catacombs in Rome, and that that was one of the reasons that frightened Tiberius Caesar out of his mind.
And that's one of the reasons why he sent for Pontius Pilate personally to account for the walking dead in Rome.
And he was looking for an excuse of someone to blame for the destruction and these scary events that were happening in Rome.
And the only thing he could think of were the letters from his granddaughter, which reported the man who could heal with the word of his mouth.
And when he contacted his granddaughter, she said, yes, the dead were walking here in Jerusalem as well.
And obviously what had happened here is that at that moment in time, Tiberius Caesar focused the blame for these events occurring in Rome on what Pilate had allowed to happen, which was the crucifixion of Jesus.
In fact, this is the real reason why Tiberius Caesar went back and began the massacres in Jerusalem right after the death of Jesus, was to vindicate or try to appease the gods, whatever they were, for the death of Jesus.
And people have forgotten this historical fact, and yet it's very well recorded in ancient manuscripts.
He taught that we were alive before we came to this earth and that we, in fact, had some sort of relationship with this earth, and that we will be alive in a real sense after we have died, yes.
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Well, if you remember, there was a certain part where he is talking about justifications and the certain retribution that a soul would have to pay if one was a glutton or that he would be reborn and the waters of life or the waters of recognition would be kept from him and he would be born again.
Okay, now, up until that time in the church, that was 543 A.D., is it not true that Justinian pronounced any who was the emperor of the Eastern Empire that he anesthematized Origen's teachings.
Origen was a church father that taught reincarnation.
They believed, like I'm saying, we're probably just bypassing each other in words, but there was a form of reincarnation in the sense that we had a life before we came to this life, and we were very much a family of the children of God, and that we will pass on to another life where we will have an opportunity to atone for our sins or make amends or whatever it happens.
Gnosticism is an interesting phenomenon because you are correct.
The ending condition of Gnosticism was really a blast.
It was an orgy-ridden.
It didn't resemble anything to do with Christianity in its final entity.
And the reason was because the Gnostics believed that religion came in your heart and they reviled organizations.
They believed that the church was an adjunct or an assistant to a person's spiritual progress rather than trying to control or lead the process.
However, in its inception, the Gnostics were very Christian.
They believed in Jesus.
As a matter of fact, Jesus walked among the Gnostics or the Essenes, talked amongst them, taught amongst them, wore their garb.
Many of the precious documents we have today with regards to the writings of the brothers of Jesus are classified Gnostic, when in reality they're not Gnostic at all.
To be very candid with you, they accepted him long before the Jews did from ancient records.
Like I told you, the Norsemen, not specifically the Norsemen, but the Druids themselves, built a temple in Jerusalem before the 2,500-year B.C. era expecting their own Messiah to return.
They called his name Jesus at that particular moment of time.
In fact, they're the only documents that I have that actually called him by name.
So that's interesting.
Obviously, the Norsemen had contact with England, and Jesus wasn't taught by the Druid faith.
Actually, it seems to me from the documents I've read, he actually taught the Druids in their own tongue.
Probably lectured a long time in the Great Druid University that had 60,000 students at the time of Jesus.
Jesus was an educator.
He was somebody who spoke and was a well-respected guest speaker at these kind of events.
And so someone to think that maybe the Druids taught Jesus, I would think that you'll find in the ancient manuscripts that quite the reverse is true.
Jesus spoke at their gatherings and was their guest speaker and their honored guest.
If you look in the, there's a great feminine presence.
We do often talk about father in heaven.
The ancients often talked about mother in heaven.
And all references with regard to women and women deity or women in heaven alongside God the Father were deleted in the 2nd century A.D. in the great book burnings of the Roman Empire.
I think it was a sad thing because many of the sweet messages of this feminine presence in the heavens, people call it a goddess.
I don't think that that's quite the correct terminology, but certainly there was a feminine presence in the heavens of the ancient world, and she left many good counsel, much good counsel for us today.
We've become a sexist society since the second century.
We've deleted all the books written by and about women in the great book burnings, and I think it's a tragedy because many of the great women in history and in scriptural and religious history wrote some of the sweetest documents that are in existence.
But the independence of mortal life, that we were designed to be here with an agency of our own, is a common theme in ancient manuscripts across the board.
And we have, apparently, from those documents, it suggests that one of the reasons for mortality itself is to, first of all, experience free agency, and second of all, to learn how to govern it and use it wisely.
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Well, one thing I just don't, it's always been puzzling to me is I'm brought up Catholic, and we were always taught that God is and that he's all-knowing, all-perfect, all-caring.
But there's a problem that kind of conflicts with free will, that why would he create a being as man and give him the choice on what decisions to make, and then when his life comes to a bitter end as far as death, and then you would, you know, as far as afterlife, you know, be condemned to hell.
When he created you and he knew what you were going to do in your life, why would he even make you if, you know, that's kind of cyclic.
Well, Elaine Pagels wrote a great book called The Origin of the Devil.
This gentleman would benefit greatly by reading her book.
Elaine is a friend from a distance of mine, and I think she had a very interesting comment saying that our use of the word devil is really more modern than ancient.
And I'll leave it to her to explain that particular one to you.
She does it better than I do.
I could speak philosophically with you, but I can't speak historically with you on that issue.
Well, the burial place of Mary is at the Chapel of Mary in England.
I don't want to give out the address per se.
I'm not in the tour business, but there is a Chapel of Mary and a nice cemetery there where you'll find that the royal houses of the kings of England have traditionally been buried.
And if you look at that site, you'll find that that's the site of the burial of the Virgin Mary as well.
All of you were invited to come there, get a copy of the book from that site.
You can also go to your local bookstore and request a copy of the Hidden Stories of the Childhood of Jesus.
It's actually not with the.
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But if you go to Amazon.com, you won't get a special gift that I'll give you, which is a perpetual reminder service that I'll give out gratis for everyone that comes to the site.
As well as you'll see on my site the Ancient America Magazine, which is a spectacular magazine.
Every dentist in the world should have this on their table.
Well, Jesus didn't destroy the temple, but Caesar did destroy the temple, and as a matter of fact, they left a pillar in stone, which is still there.
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Well, what I mean is the money changers, that whole...
Yeah, when he went through the temple and, well, you know, sometimes they said he did it with a whip or something, but where he turned over all the tables where they had the money changers and all that?
I haven't found additional references to that in extra-biblical texts.
That's largely a biblical reference.
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Okay, last question.
Regarding what you said earlier this evening about writings that were destroyed when various libraries were destroyed for religious reasons, I wondered if there were anything was ever saved from the Library of Alexandria when it was destroyed.
He said that if we had the Library of Alexandria today, we would have, you know, Carl is correct, but you must remember that there are rumors that the library, the Great Alexandria Library, was burnt deliberately.
And as a result of precious documents were taken out prior to the fire, and there is some very strong speculation that many of those documents still exist today in Constantinople.
Having lived in Mexico and also in South America, Quetzaquatl is a Mexican Mayan tradition.
When I lived in South America, I stood when they were first excavating Tihuanaco, and the Indians had never seen white men prior to my visit there.
That's how long ago it was.
And they used to call me Tichiuilacocha.
I speak a little bit of Quechua and a little bit of Aymara, and I speak fluent Spanish, which means white-bearded God, creator of all the world.
And they thought I had returned was something to do with that myth.
And as a matter of fact, in Columbus's diary, it mentions that when he was greeted on the islands, he was greeted by an Indian population who called him the white-bearded God, creator of all the world, who returned to visit them as he promised he would, which is an interesting little side note in the diary of Christopher Columbus.
You can speculate one way or the other as you choose, but I find it most fascinating.
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I do too.
Evidently, then, no documentation that might indicate that.
Well, they call him a white-bearded god, and there's also Mayan records which indicate that he had crosses in his hands when he appeared, and these are pre-Columbian documents.
Well, the person who was crucified upside down was Peter.
And Peter didn't want to be crucified in the same direction as Jesus because he didn't feel worthy of it.
Crucifixion, the ancient Messiah texts talk about the Messiah being crucified, but we have to remember that crucifixion didn't exist before about 55 B.C. And so the ancient texts didn't make sense to the Jews whose method of execution was strangulation or being stoned.
And so this crucifixion thing was really a strange thing for them.
And when Jesus was alive, many of his friends went to him and said, hey, look, you've got to beware of this crucifixion method because it's obviously Roman and we had never heard of it before the Romans came into the world.
So that should answer your question.
The upside-down crucifixion was that of Peter, not of Jesus.
I'm writing this series of books is called the Hidden Treasure Series.
I began with the very sweet, simple stories of the childhood of Jesus, and I have enough information to write 100 books in the series.
The second book in the series is just coming out.
The first book in the series just came out last year.
If you want to, pick up a copy of my book and follow the bibliography.
If it's a matter of cost, it's very inexpensive to do that because the book's under $10 and designed.
It's a very small book, easy to read, designed to be economical for everybody who wants to know something.
pick up that and then follow the bibliographies as we go, go to the website, and you'll find that there are texts that you can select from as we go as well and as your library increases.
This is going to be a subject of a book of mine in the future.
I'm not prepared to address the issue specifically.
I have some documentation that I'm going to disseminate on my website at some point in time here in the near future with regard to the travels of John to the Far East.
But we've got to remember one thing.
Let's talk historically for a moment.
In every single emperor of China until the 15th century, there was always one white guy that, in fact, the Knights Templar were, in fact, part of this regime in the 11th through 12th century.
There was always one guy that was in charge of preservation of the scriptures and foreign commerce, which is interesting.
The same group of men were there with the royal houses of India.
The same group of men protected the Vatican until the 12th century when the Pope decided to murder them all, or to eliminate them all, I should say.
I shouldn't say the word murder in that case.
But that is an extension of the legacy of John's ministry in the Far East, because they wouldn't have known or permitted a white guy to come in there and be that prominent in that position had it not been for the legacy of John in those countries.
The website, obviously, is ancientmanuscripts.com.
And any of you that would like to go to that website, it has my personal email address.
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It has all kinds of information.
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