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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Efiong Sam - Lost Nigerian Tribe
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Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 3rd, 1998.
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning, as the case may be across this wide expanse of territory.
So many time zones.
The Hawaiian and Tahitian Islands in the west, eastward to the Caribbean, and the U.S.
Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the pole, and worldwide on ye old internet, I bid you good day, everybody, and welcome to WHP Radio.
That's WHP in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
They're 580 on the dial, 5,000, and so I imagine they're heard throughout that whole Sort of area of Pennsylvania.
Big regional station.
As a matter of fact, I remember WHP when I lived back East, so I know they've got a big signal.
Glad to be on board.
This is a weird show.
It's going to take you time to understand it.
I still don't fully understand it myself.
Next hour, we are going to have... I'm not exactly sure what.
I'll tell you I will tell you what I was told earlier today.
And I don't know any more than this.
We'll find out together.
The man's name is Isyong Sam.
He is a Nigerian.
As a matter of fact, he is from a lost Nigerian tribe.
But it goes a little further than that.
This man seems rational.
And his English is quite passable and what he has told me is that God is now alive on earth.
He told me that God is in this lost Nigerian tribe that he is from.
He told me that Israel has sent a delegation to this tribe.
And that nobody knows about this except for you tonight.
Now, you don't know anything more about this, I'm telling you, than that, but that's quite enough.
And so in the next hour, we'll talk to Isyong Sam and see what this is all about.
Now, before I go on and even start with what the news is and that kind of thing, there is a photograph that somebody just sent me just prior to airtime by email.
And I in no way, you've got to understand, in no way do I warranty this to be real, nor do I consider it to be fake.
It looks real.
It is... It is... I guess it's a human being.
I'm honestly, honestly not sure.
It might be a human being.
I hesitated before I decided to post it.
Not very long though.
You know me.
I'll pretty much go ahead and put up whatever anybody sends me that seems really intriguing.
I have no... I guess we're going to just call it another who, what, where, and why photograph.
And that's exactly what it's called.
So if you'll go to my website, you will see something that will... I mean, it'll blow your mind.
It absolutely is going to blow your mind.
So, you'll see a picture of what appears to be human feet.
You click on that, and you get the entire picture, the entire photograph.
And I'm just telling you right now, brace yourself.
Brace yourself for I don't know what.
But believe me when I tell you, brace yourself.
My God!
It's... When a few of you have seen it, And I'll open a line for those who have seen the photograph, because I'm telling you right now, it's either somebody's photographic fake, but it may not be.
And I guess I don't want to discuss the specifics of it until I get somebody here on the line who's seen it.
My God.
I mean, that's what you're going to say when you see this photograph.
You're going to go, my God.
So, go to my website.
Trust me on this one.
And when you get there, just go click on the first item, the Who, What, When thing.
It's a very, very disturbing, really disturbing picture, that's all I can tell you.
All right, let's see.
What is in the standard everyday news?
U.S.
appeals court refusing to block efforts to obtain the testimony of White House lawyer Bruce Lindsey.
Clinton administration's emergency request for an order to block the testimony sent right away to Chief Justice Rehnquist.
Uh, Rehnquist not expected to act tonight.
If the court agrees to hear the appeal when it returns to session in October, it could delay independent counsel Starr from questioning Lindsey.
So, that just continues to chug along.
I've got all kinds of rumors, uh, they're running wild about the president.
And I've got a number here that I just, I don't want to read you.
But I'll tell you this, for those of you who listened last night and heard the repeat of Sean David Morton, I'm telling you, Sean Morton has hit more predictions on the head.
I got this email today, all right?
The last time Sean David Morton was on Coast to Coast, the program in fact was repeated last night.
He predicted that Clinton's ultimate fall from grace would begin on August 17th.
Now, guess when Clinton is scheduled to testify before the grand jury.
You guessed it.
August 17th.
Looks like Sean may have nailed it again.
That's Gary in Las Vegas.
That's nailing it alright.
Indeed, the President, it was just announced, is to testify before the Grand Jury August 17th.
That's what I would call a hit.
How about you?
U.S.-Iraq talks halt.
Disturbing.
State Department today blamed Iraq for the disturbing, in quotes, breakdown of talks.
With the UN over Baghdad's weapons.
Gee, I thought they had that all cleared up.
Everything has taken a, according to the chief inspector, a disappointing slide in recent days.
That Iraq might disclose fully its weapons program now.
They think they're cheating again.
No, those cheating Iraqis.
Speaking of Africa, military forces in the Eastern Congo declared themselves in open rebellion today against the president.
Thereafter, Rwandan mercenaries clashed with soldiers loyal... So anyway, fighting goes on.
I think, and I'm not sure yet, but I think that I'm going to Africa In October.
But I think I'm going to go to Cape Town in South Africa.
I wanted to.
I really did want to go into Zaire.
As a matter of fact, I really wanted to go to Nigeria.
But there's just too much war going on, and it's too damn dangerous, and I'm sorry.
So I may end up going to Cape Town, or maybe I won't go at all.
I don't know.
Another white buffalo has been born.
A white buffalo, a genetic rarity and powerful American Indian spiritual symbol, has been born in Hanover.
The female calf weighs about 40 pounds, appears to be healthy, and is not albino, according to the Jackson Citizen Patriot.
Scientists have no idea how a rare white buffalo is created and when but estimates range from one in a million to one in 40 million.
The Lakotas consider the white buffalo to be good medicine and it means something and we have had now how many white buffalo in the last I would say two or three years a sign of something Now, brace yourself for what you're about to hear.
I read you the following from Fox News.
In Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, a scientist dabbed among the unhallowed dumps of the grave to piece together his creature.
Now, surgeons in Louisville, Kentucky, are embarking on an experiment that may seem morbid, very morbid, but which holds significant promise for restoring limb sensation movement and usefulness to amputees.
University of Louisville surgeons at Jewish Hospital estimate that in about six months they're going to perform, get this folks, the first hand transplant, attaching a hand Taken from the body of a brain-dead donor, attaching it to the arm of an amputee.
The doctors are estimating at least a 50% chance that the new hand won't be rejected.
Repeat, will not be.
And they expect the patient to have nearly full movement in the new limb within four to five weeks after surgery.
Sensation would then develop in later months as nerves slowly regenerate.
They have narrowed their search for the first candidate from a pool of about 100 people down to 10 and hope to select a patient in the next two months.
Quote, an ideal candidate would be an adult who has lost both hands and who feels they can no longer proceed with their profession or take care of their family.
Although attaching a cadaver's hand to a living person may seem like a radical concept, doctors claim the actual surgery is not all that new.
According to a Dr. Warren Breedback, I think it is, who's going to lead the operation, nearly every part of the hand, arteries, bone, muscle, cartilage, nerves, and tendons has been transplanted before.
The only difference is they're going to transplant an entire limb.
Can you imagine that?
We can now transplant most internal organs, and if we can transplant a hand, then we can transplant a leg, or an arm, or a knee, Or an ear?
In other words, it seems to me we're getting pretty close here to being able to do just about anything.
Remember Dr. Frankenstein?
The only thing undone is the brain, and I am told brain transplants are possible.
You recall Dr. White?
Dr. White on the program, he did a whole bunch of monkey brain transplants.
We're approaching a very interesting age, aren't we?
Once it was thought if you lost an arm, or a finger, or a foot, or a leg, it was gone.
Now, you might be able to live on with somebody else's limb.
Oh, I tell you, we live in strange times.
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You know, there is terrorism out there.
So, in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, That would create this terror to continue to control us.
I think you're absolutely correct.
But of course, anybody that's followed the process of governments throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always seeks more.
And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
It's just a matter of time.
Now we take you back to the night of August 3rd, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Well, I would not have believed it had I not seen it.
It looks like there is going to be a medical marijuana proposal on the ballot here in Nevada.
Now you bear in mind that Nevada is a place where possession of marijuana is a felony.
It's one of the toughest states in the Union in that regard.
But somehow, some way, they got it on.
And you had to have, I think, a minimum requirement of 46,764 signatures.
And it's like they didn't have it and then they had it.
So the late news I have is that the Medical Marijuana Initiative is on the Nevada ballot.
Now that should be really, really interesting to see what occurs.
And while I'm on the subject of Nevada politics, something I almost talk... I never talk about.
I don't think I ever talk about Nevada politics.
Much less, uh, Pahrump politics.
But I live... Let me set this up for you.
I live in a little town about 65 miles west of Las Vegas.
Now, Las Vegas at one time was run very strictly when Sheriff Moran was there was run very strictly uh... you didn't see gangs you didn't see people getting in trouble on the street you didn't see a lot of things and that's because the sheriff was
You know, he was a sheriff, and he was fair, but he was very strict.
Now, flash out to where I live here in Little Pahrump, Nevada.
We have a sheriff's race going on right now, and our current sheriff, let's see, how can I put it?
His name is Wade Lieske, and he's fair, And he's strict.
Very strict.
Now, in the race that's going on out here, they're calling him a Nazi.
And, let me put it to you this way.
I don't want to see this guy out of office.
I want to see Lieske re-elected.
And the reason I want to see it is because I don't want to see my little town of Pahrump turn into Las Vegas.
Las Vegas was once a place where you could walk safely about the streets without worry over your life and I don't want to see our little frontier town of Pahrump turned into a clone of Las Vegas which is a clone of Los Angeles and I don't want to see the gangs and I don't want to see a bunch of little 16-year-old thugs Treated with kid gloves because they're not kids.
You know, if a 90-year-old lady gets beat up, she sure as hell doesn't care that he's 16.
In other words, I don't want to see a liberal, and I'm afraid that's what's going to happen.
So I hope Sheriff Lieske remains right in office, and I intend to vote for him, keep him there.
And keep Pahrump the very nice place that we intended for it to be when we moved out here to get away from all the other stuff.
So, you know, from Art Bell, hey, Wade Lieske, go, go, go, re-elect Sheriff Wade Lieske.
Totally unsolicited.
That's my comment from here in Pahrump, because I'd like it to stay The place it was when I moved here.
We'll be right back.
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from August 3, 1998.
The Coast to Coast AM concert, which was held on August 3, 1998, was a tribute to the
late Robert E. Kennedy, who was a member of the National Guard.
The concert was a tribute to the late Robert E. Kennedy, who was a member of the National Guard.
When it's all right and it's rolling on We gotta get right back to where we started from.
Love is good, love can be strong.
We gotta get right back to where we started from.
Do you remember that day?
When you first came my way?
I said no one can take your place And if you get hurt, if you get hurt
By the little things I say I can put that smile back on your face
When it's alright and it's coming on We gotta get right back to where we started from
Love is good, love is good You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time
A night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM From August 3rd, 1998
Just to clarify, actually, you know, in my opinion When Las Vegas began to go to hell
It was when actually Sheriff Moran took over from Sheriff Lamb
Lamb kept things in line, Moran kind of came in with the more liberal It's a fine line.
You know, I've worked with the police for a long time and it's a very fine line.
They all walk indeed.
And it's not black and white.
There are gray areas of law enforcement.
And frankly, I think that I don't want to see my community move over to the white line, where everything is liberalized and where The justice scales are tipped in favor of the bad guys.
You follow me?
I'm very concerned about that in my own little community, and you ought to be in yours, too.
And how the sheriff conducts himself has a lot to do with that, and Sheriff Lieske here has kept our town a good place to live in.
And, you know, we're growing.
I mean, actually, did you know that Pahrump, about a little town I live in, Is the fastest growing by percentage community in the state of Nevada, which happens to be the fastest growing state in the whole country.
So that makes us... That really makes us growing fast.
And I think the temptation, once you begin to grow fast and get bigger, is to liberalize, particularly in law enforcement and people come along and start calling you a Nazi and all the rest of it.
And I'm totally uninterested in that kind of mudslinging.
And so I want to keep our current sheriff.
I really want to keep our current sheriff.
That's my personal opinion.
Because it has to do with my personal little place to live.
And in fact, if you look around you, Las Vegas was simply a very good example of a city that once was run fairly, but tough.
I admit it, tough.
You know, they didn't put up with any crack gangbangers.
You know, they were shown the door.
And I have no problem with that kind of law enforcement.
And now, of course, you don't want what the critics say either, and you don't want a Nazi-like thing.
Of course you don't want that.
That isn't what we have.
That's simply what's being bantered about with Election rhetoric of people who would like the job.
So I don't want it to change here.
And if it does change here, I'm going to be an unhappy camper.
So I hope that Sheriff Lieske remains right where he is doing exactly what he's doing.
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Now we look at sending humans to an asteroid.
Smart idea?
I would love to see that happen.
A mission to an asteroid is exactly the kind of thing that our nation's space program ought to be focused on.
Really pushing the envelope and really showing us what's feasible and possible to do.
What better target than leaving the Earth-Moon system behind completely and venturing off to a new little world that we've never been to before and getting ready for that long mission to Mars.
Now we take you back to the night of August 3rd, 1998, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
This is interesting.
This is interesting.
Uh, Toronto, in Canada.
Apparently there they have staged a mock trial with regard to what occurred to the Titanic.
Check this out, folks.
Associated Press.
If the Titanic went down today, what a gargantuan lawsuit there would be.
Women and children first?
Indeed!
That alone could trigger wrongful death suits based on sex discrimination claims.
Can you imagine that?
Isn't that absolutely correct?
Isn't it?
If the Titanic went down today, and the crew tried to insist that women and children go first, there would be wrongful death suits, so many you couldn't count them, From the men, or the families of the men, charging sex discrimination.
If the Titanic went down today, do you think it would be women and children first?
Huh.
Huh.
How times change, hmm?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Well, good morning, Art.
This is Rick from Seattle, Washington.
Hi, Rick.
Great KOMO.
I just wanted to call up and ask if you'd found out about Mount St.
Helens today, raising a cloud of ash up to 9,000 feet in the air.
Oh, nobody sent me anything about that.
Yeah, the news reports are saying that it's possibly a rockfall, but then again, you never know.
A rockfall that kicks something up 9,000 feet?
Yep, that's what I thought, too.
Pretty big rocks.
There's an earthquake there.
You just begin to wonder.
A rockfall?
Mm-hmm.
Gigantic rockfall.
I don't think that I'd buy it.
Nope.
I suppose if it was like a landslide, a gigantic landslide, then... That's what they're saying.
Well, I've also been getting an awful lot of due to winds.
I've been getting an awful lot of Uh, reports saying that there's been a lot of small quake activity under St.
Helens.
Yes, 2.0 and below.
Yeah, but swarming.
Hundreds and hundreds of them.
That's right.
Very interesting.
Thank you very, very much for that report.
Hmm.
A rockfall, huh?
Yeah, maybe.
Here I've got in front of me the plans of the social security system for Y2K.
I'll try and read that to you.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Jason Imparum.
Jason, hi.
Hey, how you doing, man?
I'm all right.
Glad to hear from you.
Good.
Hey, the Sheriff Lesky thing.
Right.
You know, I'm all for it.
Do you understand?
I'm so glad you called, Jason.
Do you understand what I mean?
Since you live here in Pahrump, we can look over the hill and see what happened after Lamb with Moran and how Las Vegas changed.
And now it's gangbangers paradise, you know.
Might as well be in LA, right?
Yeah, pretty much.
So, you know, I'm watching the election.
Here in Pahrump.
Uh-huh.
And I'm seeing people call our sheriff a Nazi, and it really pisses me off.
Yeah, no, he's not, Art.
He's doing his job.
I know that.
I know that.
And I want him to keep doing his job, and I don't want people making these kinds of charges to be able to poison just good, plain old tough law enforcement.
Right.
He's hard-nosed, and that's a good thing.
That's a good thing, yeah.
I don't want to live in a place where I'm afraid to walk around, do you?
No, Art.
That's why I moved here.
How about you?
Hey, I came from a place in California when I decided to leave there.
That was so bad, after the second guy got killed on my street corner.
I hear ya.
Yeah.
No, I have reason to know about the goodness of this man, and I just couldn't keep my mouth shut about it.
Well, you know what, Art?
That's what you're here for.
Yeah, I don't know what I'm here for.
Well, you're doing a good job.
Thanks for the call, Jason.
But you know what, Art?
I was going to tell you.
I'm sitting here looking out at my AMT Model 2.
Ooh, you are.
I'm loving it.
You've got a night vision.
That's what I'm looking at.
What?
Over at Area 51.
And what are you seeing?
Actually, I'm not seeing nothing.
I faxed you a picture a week ago.
I haven't seen nothing since.
That would have killed me, because I'm not aimed at Area 51 right now.
Obviously, if you look at more of a straight-up point, you've got less atmosphere between you and the stars, and you see a whole lot more.
But isn't it amazing?
You know what?
I would recommend it to anybody.
That is something really neat art.
Even in areas where they don't see a lot of stars, the night vision will pick out the light.
No problem.
Yeah, it's great.
All right, my friend.
Thank you.
That's Jason here in Prague.
Thanks for the call, Jason.
And I see we agree.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Oops, now you are.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
Where are you, sir?
I'm in KVEN land.
Ventura?
Yes.
And last week, for the first time in my life, I got to hear Dr. Lear speak in person.
And it was fascinating, but something was really scary.
What?
He explained that... Now, Dr. Lear is a surgeon who removes implants.
Right.
And one thing in my mind was, how do they know they're alien implants?
But he explained they're attached to nerves.
They have, like, seemingly electronic parts.
They have a shell around them that... Which is, uh, cannot, in fact, cannot be penetrated by a scalpel.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
But something else fascinating happened at the meeting.
I raised my hand and I said, he was talking about little scoop marks on a leg.
Oh, yes.
And it's a certain fleshy feeling.
You can see a certain coloration under a black light in the skin, and they're unmistakable.
So I raised my hand and showed one to him, and he goes, that's it.
Well, let me tell you something I've never told anybody before.
This means nothing.
I have no memory.
As far as I know, I have never been abducted.
But I do have a scoop mark on my leg.
You know what's funny?
I came back to the store, showed it to my buddy, and he has one.
And not only that, it's even a little weirder.
I have 50 scars on my body.
I can tell you every scar where it came from.
That's the only one I do not have a clue.
I appreciate your call, and I appreciate your triggering my saying that.
And I've never said it publicly before, because people, of course, are going to jump to all kinds of conclusions.
But I have a scoop mark.
It's not a scar.
It's just like somebody took a little scoop and scooped out a little bit of skin.
And the skin is perfectly smooth.
Now, what that means, it may mean nothing.
It may mean that people have scoop marks.
I don't know.
But I do have a scoop mark.
It's a definite scoop mark.
I have no memory of anything ever occurring.
I'm pretty sure that I've never been abducted.
Of course, my memory might be erased.
What do I know?
But I do have a scoop mark, and I've never said that publicly before.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Well, good morning, Art.
Good morning to you.
Where are you?
I'm in southeast Idaho.
All right.
Listening to KPNU, I should be anyway, but I'm listening to KMTV tonight.
All right.
I had a little thought.
Maybe we should gather our collective amygdalae and point them towards northern Texas.
I agree with you.
In fact, here, let me read this to you and then we'll all try it, okay?
Let's give it a try.
Experiment number two.
Hi Art.
I've heard that you asked your listeners to visualize rain for Florida while the wildfires were going on.
And that within the hour, the weather changed.
That's true.
And a day later, the rain began.
Here in Texas, we've been having 100 degree plus weather for over two months now.
This may have to do with the earth changes, but the fact of the matter is 95 people have died statewide due to the extreme heat we're experiencing.
Would you consider making an announcement similar to the one you did for the state of Florida For the relief we need here in Texas, there are thousands of people and animals who would be most grateful for some heavy rainfall, not to mention the grass, trees, and plants.
No worry about mudslides here in Texas.
We don't have any mountains.
So, there you are.
Let's do it!
I think it's a great idea.
I've been thinking about this for a while, and if any place needs it, Northern Texas could use it right now.
All right.
You got it, my friend.
Thank you.
All right, folks.
Let's give it a try.
As you know, we had a guest who talked to us about clicking forward.
What does he call it?
The frontal lobe, anyway.
It's virtually popping your frontal lobes.
And then concentrating on rain.
Concentrating on the formation of moisture and clouds above the state of Texas.
Now, the last time we tried the experiment, we asked you to face toward the target area.
So wherever you are, face toward Texas.
And spend a few moments, if you wouldn't mind, concentrating on the formation of moisture above Texas.
And let's see if we can bring some rain to the state of Texas.
God knows they do need it.
So, if you would please, help us participate now in great experiment number two.
They've really had it down in Texas.
And if you're in Texas, concentrate on the area above you.
Let's see if we can, let's see if we can bring rain to Texas.
I am not at all beyond believing that a collective mental effort is in fact capable of changing the weather.
I'm a little cautious about tampering in this area because I feel that probably Moisture taken from one place to give to another may have its own kind of ill effects, but let's see if it can be done.
We've got a large enough audience out there, all of you, and if you will just take a quiet moment of contemplation, you can do it now, you can do it during the news, you can do it tomorrow, and concentrate as hard as you can On the formation of clouds, of a collection of moisture, the formation of clouds, above Texas.
Specifically, if you wish, northern Texas.
The Dallas area could sure use some rain.
So, anybody willing to give it a try out there?
Despite the fact that I think there's a high predominating over that area.
Let us try.
They really do need the rain.
So, The Great Weather Experiment Part 2.
Now, I don't know if I'm qualified to set it up, but I just did anyway.
We'll try it.
If it fails, it may be because I did not give you the proper instruction.
But let us try.
Concentrate as hard as you can.
Every opportunity you get in the next 24 hours on Rain for Texas.
Let's see what we can do.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hey, Mr. Bell.
This is Patrick from Tulsa.
How are you?
I'm fine, Patrick.
I saw that picture of the who, what, what is it?
Oh, yes.
Extremely interesting.
Very interesting.
What the hell is it?
I don't know.
It looks like a really obese person.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
If that was an obese person, and that's the first thing I thought about, and that person fell from a building, right?
Where's the blood?
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't see any of that either.
So, I'm not even fully convinced that's human.
It could not be.
It could be one of our secret government experiments gone awry.
I don't know.
You know, people send me these photographs.
Maybe it's just a doctored up photograph, but I don't think so.
I think it's real, but I just don't know what it is.
Could be.
You know, it's extremely interesting.
But isn't it one of those things that you look at and you go, Oh my God, what's that?
It makes you scratch your head.
Yeah.
And maybe some other places, too.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, listen, anything else?
I've got to scoot here because I've got a break coming up.
Yeah, I know.
I just used to live in Clearwater.
I saw your pictures on there in a bridge in Mariana building.
Yes.
I used to live right down the street from that.
Did you really?
Yeah, it was traffic.
It was horrendous.
The main thing that came about that Yeah.
That image was actually painted on there years before.
I know, but it got ruined and then it came back all by itself.
Remarkable.
I'm Art Bell.
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Tonight's program originally aired August 3rd, 1998.
Good morning, everybody, and welcome to another week of Coast to Coast AM.
And again, we are welcoming a new affiliate, a pretty cool one, too, WHP AM in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, serving that whole area of Pennsylvania.
This is a very strange show.
You'll find that out soon enough.
Listen, there is a photograph on my website right now, which is unlike any photograph I've ever seen in my whole life.
The reactions, I can't describe it to you because, frankly, this thing can't be described.
Someone here writes, hey Art, my interpretation is it's a melted Texan.
By the way, we're trying to help the Texans out, and if it's possible with mind power, millions of minds working on the same thing, we're trying to create rain in Texas.
Specifically Dallas, North Texas.
And it is the Great Rain Experiment Part 2.
So I'm asking all of my audience to take just one moment out, kind of picture Texas in your mind, Go into as much of a meditative state as you're able to, and try to picture rain, moisture, the gathering of clouds above Texas, and let's see what we can do.
It worked in Florida, maybe it'll work in Texas.
Anyway, there's a big old high over the area, so let's try, let's give it a try.
Over the next 24 hours, all of you, collectively, when you get an extra moment, Consider rain and clouds over Texas.
Okay?
Again, another reaction to the picture up on the website.
I mean, I got this thing like five minutes before airtime, and I shipped it to Keith, who got it up there right away.
Keith Rowland, my esteemed webmaster.
Here's another reaction.
All right.
Oh, my Lord!
I just left your website, by God!
Is this photo real?
Of course, I have no idea.
It's bizarre, but it sure looks real.
I recommend everybody go check it out.
Somebody else asking Art a few questions.
He says, regarding the picture, I just saw it.
Whoa!
Can you tell us any more about the origins of the picture?
Well, the guy who sent it has an email address.
You can email and ask him.
A few questions we should ask.
One, is it human?
Two, Is it the remnants of a human?
3.
Is something devouring a human?
And frankly, I don't know, but if you want to get a look at that photograph, go to my website and take a look-see.
It's www.artbell.com www.artbell.com.
It is bizarre, and I suppose it fits right in.
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and right i want to tell you what i know about the man coming
on right now and this is all i know
We are going to be discovering this together.
I got a call from my network office earlier in the day, and they said there's a man desperate to get hold of you, Art.
He is from a lost tribe in Nigeria.
He is, in fact, Nigerian, of course.
His name, I think I can pronounce it Is Isyong Sam.
Isyong is his first name.
Sam, his last name.
S-A-M.
He is, in fact, Nigerian.
And I'll tell you what he told me.
He told me he comes from a lost tribe in Nigeria.
And we'll have to define what a lost tribe is.
Nigeria, as you know, is locked in a terrible, destructive civil war right now.
But Isyong Sam says that God is now on Earth.
God is on Earth, and God is a member of this tribe.
He also told me that the Israelis sent a delegation to Africa, to his tribe, to Nigeria, and that's all I knew.
And I thought, hmm, this is interesting.
So I said stop.
I want to hear the rest of it on the air.
I don't like pre-interviewing past a certain point.
You know, I want to hear a little bit of what somebody has to say.
But past that point, I want to discover things as you do.
So, that's all I know.
Here he is.
Isyong Sam.
Welcome to the program.
Thank you, Aaron.
One step at a time, I guess, you are Nigerian.
Yeah.
You said you're from a lost tribe.
Yeah, I'm from the Lost Tribe.
You know, the Israelites, when they arrive at Canaan, I'm going to speak slowly so that your listeners can hear me very well, because of my dialect.
When my ancestors left Egypt, and through the journey in the wilderness, They finally arrived Canaan and some tribes were eventually lost through history.
And this has been known to us in Nigeria that we are the lost.
In fact, in the area I'm trying to describe to you, the Calabar.
I don't know if you're familiar very well with Calabar.
No, I am not.
The Calabar?
Is that correct?
Calabar?
Calabar is a city right by the coast in eastern Nigeria.
Okay, well I'm going to try and bring myself up a map here so I can take a look.
Okay.
And maybe I can, let's see, where is my world map?
Anyway, so you, you have been in this tribe for all your life?
Yeah, I've been with them all my life, and we've been here in Eastern Nigeria for a very long period of time, from 900 BC, when we left Canaan.
Okay, I see now Eastern Nigeria.
yeah uh...
and uh...
it to the south of you would be Yes, yes, very close to Cameroon border.
To the east of you would be Chad.
So you say your village would be down near the Cameroon border.
Yes, very close to the Cameroon border.
Okay, I think I've got you here.
How close to the very southern tip of Nigeria?
How far from the ocean?
Oh, it's right by the ocean.
Right by the ocean?
Yeah.
Okay, in that case then I have you pinpointed.
I see where you are.
And when you say lost tribe, when was your tribe discovered by the modern world?
We've been there from generations.
Nobody had wanted to listen.
When the alien missionaries came to Nigeria, we actually told them who we are and they could see some of us.
They wouldn't listen.
They wouldn't listen.
They were much interested in the resources instead of the people.
We've been there for generations.
But everybody who came was more interested in the resources.
Oh yeah, yeah.
That's it.
You said God is alive on earth now.
Oh yes.
Alright, it's time.
I'm so glad I got a hold of you, and I hope the whole world is listening.
Well, a good part of it is.
God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth, and everything we see in Heaven and on Earth, and the world beyond, is now on Earth.
How long has He been here?
He's been on Earth since 1918.
Since 1918.
Yes.
He's been revealed to certain wives, men, because before he manifested, he actually was born in Nigeria.
He revealed himself to some nuns in the Vatican.
In the Vatican?
That would make him physiologically 80 years old now, right?
Almost.
Almost 80 years old.
Yes, almost.
And be sure, he's not coming to die.
He's going to live with mankind forever.
He's not coming at this end time to die.
At this time of his advent in the world, he's coming to be with mankind forever.
How, what does this, what does this, what does God look like?
God is just like, he looks, he's a human being.
Yes.
Just like the first time Christ came to the world, you know, he was a Jew.
Well, I guess when I'm asking this, what I mean is, does he look like an 80 year old man?
Um, not much.
No.
So he does not look like he's aging to 80?
No.
Seeing is believing.
I hope one day you will make a trip to Calabasas and see what I'm just telling you.
I would love to travel to your country.
I had plans to travel to your country, but I was told it is just too dangerous right now.
Nothing is going to happen in Nigeria.
We had a civil war, so there's not going to be any fight.
No fighting?
Yeah, what you see in Nigeria is just police action.
And the Holy Spirit is trying to take control over Nigeria.
The physical Nigeria is dead.
What you see is going on now, because Nigeria used to be a place you could live and enjoy life and a kid grow up to be somebody, but everything fell into the bad hands, so they messed up the country.
So, it's about time the Holy Spirit, you know, to take over the total control of that country.
So, not only Nigeria, the world I'm talking about.
Why do you believe this?
It is a man, yes?
Seems to be a human man?
Yes, just like the Christ came before.
Okay.
Why do you believe him to be God?
I called Kyle about today.
This message I'm just telling you now and the whole listeners, wherever they're listening, this message comes from the throne of God.
I'm not making up this story.
I'm nobody.
I'm nothing.
I'm asking you why you believe that this is God.
Why do you believe it?
Because He is.
And the time is up for the people to know That's why he has sent this message to the whole world to know that he has arrived.
He has arrived.
I'm going to go into details, because there's so much I wish we would have time to cover.
That's fine.
No, we have time, but Siong, I want to ask you why you believe it.
Why do you believe it?
What has he done to make you believe he is God?
He is among his chosen people.
These people, the Kailapa people in Nigeria, these are the chosen people of God, and if God is among them, He will not hide Himself.
He will certainly reveal Himself to the people.
These are the people God is going to use, His own elects, from this very tribe, this holy tribe, He's going to use to rule this war.
What is the name of this tribe?
Uh, comprised of, uh, uh, the, the calabar, the calabarians.
Calabarians?
Yes, calabarians.
And if, right by the coast, you, we have the calabarians.
If you go a little, a little, uh, about 200 miles up, these people are the, uh, the edomites.
The edomites.
Okay.
Um, I, I, again, I want to ask you, how has this man proven to you That he is God.
Why do you believe this?
Why?
Just because he said it?
Has he shown you anything that made you believe it?
Yeah, I'm coming to that.
OK.
OK.
Everything about him is in the scripture.
Even though I don't read the Bible very much, we know from the Holy Bible about him that before he even Uh, was born into this tribe in Nigeria.
Everything was foretold.
It's foretold in the Bible about his coming, second coming.
And we have passages here in the Bible that actually, uh, document or, um, indicate that this man is truly, uh, is God.
And not only that, um, the passages too, that, um, Indicate that when God comes at this last Advent, He will be wearing a white garment.
A white garment, yes.
Oh, no, no, I'm sorry, a red garment.
A red garment.
So, if you go there, what I'm telling you is for yourself.
He's there wearing a red garment, day and night preaching among His people.
And he has one other garment that he is preserving for one day.
That day is going to judge the whole world.
There are passages in the Bible I can give you.
Okay, I know that there are passages in the Bible about the second coming of our Lord, but how What I guess I must ask you is how you, why you believe that these passages refer to this man?
Because he is, first I told you, he's among his chosen people.
And secondly, this tribe, you know, the Edomites and the Israelites, we know who we are, where we came from, The promise God made to our own great-great-great-grandparents, our father Abraham Jacob, that when he comes back he will be among us.
And that's why he is among us, and we know him.
We believe him.
Anytime he says something, he makes a pronouncement, so-so-so, it's going to happen, it's going to happen.
Alright?
So you are saying then, for maybe 70 years, or for how long, have these tribes known that this man is God?
How long?
Oh, even before our great-great-grandparents.
You know, I'm just, I'm about 50 years of age.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Other people who were my great-great-grandparents, my father, the rest who were before us, knew the same.
So he'd been passing from generation to generation, till he actually manifested, you know, in person.
So we just worship and believe He is the One.
Uh-huh.
And He says He is the One.
Yes.
You know, this is what I'm, the message I'm just revealing to you is something that, I
don't know what to say, but it's a most profound revelation that...
It's a...
Ever been made in the entire universe.
You told me that Israel, the nation of Israel, sent a delegation.
Yes, November of last year.
November of last year.
And what did they conclude?
There are some people in that nation who are day and night praying for the, you know, Recently, there are many tribes from all over the world returning to the State of Israel.
I don't know if you are familiar with that.
Yes.
Trying to fulfill the prophecy at the end time, many, many lost tribes will be returning to the State of Israel.
So, you know, and God, I don't think God is sitting down quietly.
This man I'm just telling you about, he knows his children wherever they are.
Because he made that promise at the end time, everybody.
And I don't, we don't even, the state of Israel, we still think that after the year 2000, they themselves will be moving to Nigeria.
Alright, on that note, hold it right there, we're coming to the bottom of the hour.
Great.
My guest is Issyong Sam.
He's Nigerian.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
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I said, now what would you say?
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Ooh, people get so angry!
You should read some of the faxes I have here.
Present them with something that challenges, whether it's baloney or not, what they believe.
And I'm telling you, they go totally, absolutely crackers bananas.
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We are talking now about two tribes, lost tribes.
I believe we're talking About lost tribes of Israel, the Calabrians and the Edomites, I believe.
My guest is Nigerian, Ziong Sam, and he says God is here on earth and now alive, and he is in one of these tribes.
Is he in the Calabrians or the Edomites?
Oh, he's at Calaba.
The people at the Idamite who are up north a little bit, we speak the same language and we were almost the same people.
Why are you now in America?
I'm here to make a writing script.
You know, sometimes we see what is going on in the world, how pitiful the events going
on in the world.
So we want everybody to know that the time is up.
The time is up.
There is no time to joke.
Everybody should, whatever, they should change their ways and know that time is up for everybody.
Time is up.
Alright.
Look, let me ask you this.
Are you saying, so that I understand, that you are one of the Lost Tribes of Israel?
Yes.
That is correct?
Yes.
And you're saying Israel sent a delegation in November?
Of last year.
Of last year.
And you're saying God is alive and God is with your people?
Yes.
And He has said and is saying The time is up.
Can you tell us what will happen?
Art, everybody will feel it.
Wherever you are, even if you are, you live inside the ground, whether you live in the moon, wherever.
Every human race, every creation of God will feel this change.
It's going to be a significant change.
Things human beings never witnessed before.
Can you give me some details?
Do you know any details?
It's more spiritual.
Everybody will see him, will feel him, and he will affect the physical world we are living in.
In what way?
In terms of disaster, some storms.
That man had never seen before.
The effect will be unbelievable.
It will be terrible.
And the judgment coming is going to be a spiritual judgment.
Every human race, even fishes in the water, the birds of the air, every living thing will feel this significant
change.
So bring this to the entire universe.
There is no time. People are still looking up in the sky, looking that Christ is going to crash land from the sky.
It's not going to happen that way.
It didn't happen before, so it's not going to happen this time.
God is not letting him do his own thing the way we human beings do.
He came at the first advent through the womb of a woman, and the same thing happened this time.
It's for us now to wake up and know that the time is hard for human beings to change and stop all the bad things that have been going on in the universe for generations.
That we're going to give account of every action, everything that we do in our life, we're going to give account of it.
So I come and put this message Through you, because I've been struggling.
I struggled all the way.
Tried to get a hold of you when you were in Egypt.
I could not.
So I came right back here, so that everybody could... So you actually tried to get a hold of me in Egypt when I was there?
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
You know, your radio talk show is... The only station that we know is...
I guess you just missed me.
I had just left Egypt when you got hold of me.
Yeah, that's what I was told.
Do you understand that it's very hard for people to accept what you're saying?
It's difficult.
Yeah, difficult.
the whole war. I guess you just missed me, I had just left Egypt when you got
old of me. Yeah, that's what I was told.
Do you understand that it's very hard for people to accept what you're saying?
It's difficult. Yeah, difficult. Very, very difficult.
Art is... it's been like that before.
If you look at the events prior to when God destroyed the first war, we've heard about.
Nobody believes.
It's true, it's true.
Are you selling anything?
What I'm selling is that God is on Earth.
Oh, I understand that.
Are you selling anything?
Books?
No, I'm not.
I have a lot of things, publications that I can, you know, send to whoever is interested.
Because what I'm telling you, we have everything outlined.
We have books that we published about his second coming.
Yeah, we have books here about his second coming.
The tribe, you know, he was foretold.
prophesied that he will manifest at this end time
then there are other documents about them i have here about the lost tribes
and uh...
yeah i have a few things that i can uh... that might help enlighten whosoever is interested
this is a very hard interview for me as young because i have no way of
knowing except by your faith in your word uh...
what you say is true You say that the events will begin in a very short time.
Very few months, you say now.
You know, between now and the year 2000, we're going to have some... We're going to have so much... How many months?
Maybe 18 months or so.
10 months or so.
About 18 months.
So the end of the millennium is the end?
That's it.
That's it.
Storms?
Earthquakes?
Earth changes?
What?
Yes, that's going to happen, but individual person, every person, whether a child, black, white, everybody would stand before The Holy Spirit and give account of His deeds.
No person on the face of this earth will escape this judgment.
Isyong, when Jesus walked on earth, He did things that no man can do.
And by this, we knew Him to be as no other man.
Has this man that you call God, Done things like that.
Yes.
Can you give me examples?
Oh, some people have been there with no eyesight.
Immediately he makes a pronouncement, go.
All is well with you.
A blind has seen, a deaf has spoken.
Oh, those people who have died, who have given up for death, been raised from the dead.
There have been a lot of things.
You have seen, wait a minute, you have seen people rise from the dead?
Yes.
This is a wonderful, see, this, you know, in 1986, some people from this country, the government of this country, visited Calabar, to tell you what is going on, and they came there and saw the Holy Father.
And he received them, talked to them, you know, and see, they came back and hid this.
I don't know why they're hiding this message, you know, up till today.
They could have revealed this stuff to the whole world.
This is very, in Europe, some of the countries in Europe, this is not a hidden fact.
Some of the countries more, the news has spread wide, very, you know, unlike here, you know.
To come to the miracles that Christ did, the Holy Father at this Advent has a different mission.
This is what I want to let you know.
I understand that.
His coming this time is not to walk around from house to house preaching, healing, doing all this stuff that Christ did.
No, that is a long... that mission has been accomplished.
At this end time, he's coming solely for one purpose, to judge mankind.
To judge mankind?
Yes, that's it.
He's not coming to walk from house to house, preach from synagogue to synagogue.
No.
When the law is changed, the priesthood is changed, that has been done, has been accomplished.
This is a different mission for him.
To judge human beings, To change human beings and to establish his kingdom, that's all.
I take it then that there is no hope that this will not happen, this judgment you're saying?
This is what has been ordained to happen.
Whether people believe it or not is not going to It does not change anything.
Isyong, many people will not believe this.
Of course, many people will not believe this.
Of course, I know too.
This man who you say is God, does he have black skin?
Yes.
He does?
Yes.
That will help many people not believe it.
Of course!
You're right.
You're very, very right there.
But I don't rule it out.
I don't rule out anything, Isang.
You believe this with all your heart.
You know this is true.
This is a national radio station.
It goes through a lot of countries in the whole universe.
I wouldn't come here and make this kind of statement, because I know, and we know, That this is going to happen, and this man is the promised Messiah, and he has come with a new name.
He's not coming back to bear the same name, Jesus the Christ.
He had accomplished that mission, and it's done.
Before he left, he even said when he comes back, he will have a new name.
He himself alone knows.
Yes, and what name is he known by?
His name is Olumba.
Olumba.
Olumba Obu.
Olumba, I'm sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
Olumba Baru?
Olumba, there is two Olumbas.
And the last name is Obu.
Obu.
Yes.
This is the new name of God.
Olumba Obu.
And you have, you have personally, with your own eyes, seen these miracles performed?
I'm not talking about thousands.
People from all over the world have been going, even Americans, some Americans here know what I'm talking about.
Maybe they do.
I'm sorry that I don't.
I've not heard of this.
Yes, I understand.
I've seen it happen.
I've heard it.
I've seen it.
I have a documentary of all, most of the stuff that's been going on in these Uh, among these people.
Is that why you're in America to bring this word?
Is that why you're here?
Yes.
I have two things I'm doing here.
I told you earlier that I'm writing a script to submit to some agencies here in Hollywood so that they can make a movie about the end times.
And secondly, I had a call from Calabar today before We were not allowed to reveal a message like this.
The main reason this message being authorized to be revealed, because the time is up.
And that is, is that the message?
Yes, is this message that I've just given to the world today, that the time is up.
That the time is up.
And that God is here on Earth.
And that God is here now.
It's very difficult, especially, like you just said, you know, being in a black... Yeah, it is!
You see, the way of God is not like that of, you know, we human beings.
That's the situation.
That's always been the problem with human beings.
They expect things to be the way they themselves, you know, like it to be, but God does not do His own things that way.
Is this a general belief among the Calabrians and the Edomites, or do some not believe?
Well, some do not.
Oh, many, many do not.
Many do not?
Yeah.
You see, if God does not reveal Himself, even among His people, you know, like before when Christ came in the first advent, many did not believe Him.
That's true.
Yeah.
So the same thing is at this time, you know.
But will that stop what is going to happen from happening?
No!
How long are you going to be in the United States?
Oh, I'll probably be here until December.
Sometime early next year I will be going back.
You know, I talked to Richard?
Yes.
I called him today.
I talked to him and you see the coincidence.
He's making a trip in December to Nigeria.
So I told him, oh my goodness, you've got to see this.
You've got to come to this area.
If he comes here, I will take him over there.
I would be glad to go with him.
Have there been any film crews that have gone to Nigeria to film this person who calls himself God?
Not probably from Europe, probably Greece.
We have some people from this country, Greece, but individually people from Europe, Romania, England, other countries like that have been... But not so much from the U.S.?
No, not so much from the U.S.
Well, all I can say to you is that I I have listened to what you said, and I don't know that I can believe, and I don't know that I don't believe.
I just, I don't know what to think, Xiong.
I'm being honest with you right now.
I don't know what to think.
The reason I want you to, you know, you can find out, you know, this for yourself.
You mentioned that you're going to South Africa in October or something?
I am, yes.
You can stop over in Nigeria.
I demand they will receive you.
How would I know when I see?
How would I know?
Would I see him do something that regular men cannot do?
How would I know?
Well, that's a little difficult for me.
Because really, if you're going to ask him, are you God, it's not going to tell you nothing.
It probably won't tell you anything.
But it probably will take a little, you know, from one thing to another if he gives you his audience, which I hope he will.
Believe me, as I'm talking to you now, he hears what we are talking about, that we are talking about him.
And he might do wonderful things.
You know, one man from India, there was a man from India who came there.
Oh, a couple of years.
I think in 1974.
Yes.
When this man went there, he refused to enter the hall.
Then people beckoned on him, come on, come on, come and see the fire.
The man, he was trying to run away.
He said, don't you see that consuming fire?
What are you guys doing?
He was scared.
Behold, this man, oh, you know, there are some people who have maybe, they have the eyes to see.
Things beyond our own physical realm?
Yes.
Okay.
So, he saw him, instead of the man of this Ulumba, he saw a ball of fire.
Alright.
So, Asyong, I am going to think about coming to Nigeria.
Okay.
And you are going to be here for a while yet.
Yeah.
So, I am going to think about what you have had to say tonight.
And I will have you on again at some point.
Anytime, Art.
I have a lot of things I can send to you.
Please do that, all right?
And I will pursue this.
I'll pursue it, all right?
I'm so glad you will.
All right, my friend.
Thank you and good night.
We'll be right back.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from August 3rd, 1998.
This is a story of a man who was a sailor on a ship.
He was a sailor on a ship.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from August 3rd, 1998.
If you just joined us at this hour, I'm sorry.
Most of you will have heard the last hour, which was, to say the least, unusual.
A very serious man, a Nigerian named Isyong Sam, was here.
Isyong Sam has been searching for me for some time, tried to get me when I was in Egypt, and just missed me, and now is in this country, and he found me through my network.
Now, if you're just joining right now, it's going to sound very strange.
This young Sam is from the Calabrians.
This is a tribe in southern Nigeria, near the coast, just north of the Cameroon border, if you have a map.
There are two tribes there, the Calabrians and the Idlites.
Isyong Sam claims that these tribes are the lost tribes of Israel.
He further claims that God is alive on earth now.
That God has been alive on earth since 1918, and now would be physiologically about 80 years of age.
His name is Olumba Obu.
Now, I know all of this is an awful lot to get hit with if you're just running the show.
Frankly, it's an awful lot to get hit with even if you were listening to Last Hour.
But this man sounds very serious.
I gave him an opportunity to peddle stuff or sell stuff and he said, well, there are some publications they have made.
But didn't give me any numbers and didn't try any hard sell or any sell at all.
We gave out no numbers.
I listened for an hour.
He said that he received a message from Nigeria, from Alumbu Abu, earlier today, that the end is at hand.
That, in other words, that Judgment Day lies no more than 10 months off, 18 at the outside, and that there will be a worldwide judgment.
That God is a man of black skin on Earth now.
Now I know.
Believe me, I know.
I know what your reaction is like, and I, I, I, but, um, I explore these kinds of things.
As you well know, I explore things with an open mind, and I'm exploring this with an open mind.
There is an invitation for me to go and meet this man.
Now, it was said that he has done miracles as did Christ when he was on earth.
It has been said, I was told by Isyong Sam that Israel has sent a delegation to meet with this man who says he is God.
I don't exactly know what the resolution of that was, but if the Israelis did it, then they must be pretty serious about the possibility of, you know, to the degree they would go and investigate it.
It is an interesting story, and who is to say, of course, that God is not here.
Not me.
It could be.
I repeat, it could be.
In a moment, I'm going to sort of punctuate this last hour's interview.
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Now we look at sending humans to an asteroid.
Smart idea?
I would love to see that happen.
A mission to an asteroid is exactly the kind of thing that our nation's space program ought to be focused on.
Really pushing the envelope and really showing us what's feasible and possible to do.
What better target than leaving the Earth-Moon system behind completely and venturing off to a new little world that we've never been to before and getting ready for that long mission to Mars.
Now, we take you back to the night of August 3rd, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
This will be a bit of a surprise for you.
Let's punctuate last hour's interesting information.
That's what I'm going to call it right now, interesting.
Because anything under the sun is possible.
Here is Richard C. Hoagland.
Hi, Richard.
Good evening, Art.
Good evening.
What do you know about all this?
Well, this is rather serendipitous.
One of my favorite words.
I know.
Remember the three princes of Serendip?
Yes.
The discovery of unexpected and wondrous things.
Yes.
Our friend Effie Ong, and it's pronounced with an F, not an S. I made the mistake because his English is excellent, but there are little things that slip through sometimes.
Uh-huh.
Effie Ong, Sam, called me this afternoon.
Now what makes it so remarkable is not his story, which we'll talk about in a second, but the fact that unbeknownst to anybody, we are carefully looking into the possibility of taking a group of people to Africa, toward the end of the year, as part of my quest on this ancient ritual Egyptian calendar.
Yes.
And Ephiong's people, the so-called lost tribe of Israel, actually, historically, can be traced back to Egypt.
And I'm sitting here holding a book by Robert Temple, Bob Temple, who wrote The Serious Mystery.
And there is a whole chapter devoted to tracing where the ancient Egyptians, the black Egyptians who Yes.
Some scholars now really believe we're the progenitors of what we see along the Nile.
That's right, yes.
And their migrations out of Egypt, across the Sahara, down through West Africa, ultimately down to the coast of Nigeria.
So, that's the part that I didn't have a problem with.
What I had a problem with was the synchronicity of, I mean, no one knows.
We're even looking at this.
I tried to You're telling me that before you heard from my guest last hour, you were preparing to organize... We've been looking seriously into this for about the last week.
I mean, really seriously.
And you are going to Africa to look for, let's not mince words, the Messiah?
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm going to Africa, I may be, nothing is firm yet, we're just considering this, to look at the origins of this ritual calendar which have a very important date at the end of the year.
Well, what I recall, Richard, is that in a certain chamber, In Egypt, you had a report of a figure of a black man... Right.
...holding an ankh.
Do you remember?
Looking up that shaft toward Orion.
Orion, that's right.
And one of my visions is to have the right group of people standing on that plateau at the time at the end of the year when these alignments all work, according to the computer calculations we've been doing now for the last couple, three years, And out of the blue, as I'm working on this and thinking about who I'd like to have along, like Graham and you and some people, but maybe Bob Temple, this guy calls, Effie Ong Sam, and says, I've got a story for you.
Now, I am intrigued with synchronicities, the physics.
Now, I had no idea.
He said during the interview, he talked to Richard, and I wasn't even sure which Richard he meant, until I got a fax from you a few minutes ago.
I kind of let it go.
You just said I called Richard.
Right.
And I let it go.
But it obviously was you.
Oh, yes.
No question.
I mean, when was the last time you got a call from somebody from Africa who's on a quest to get Hollywood to take seriously the story of the Black Messiah and the, quote, end of times?
I am in sync.
Never.
I've never had that.
Never.
Well, I have asked this individual.
And you know what, Richard?
Yes?
Normally, to be honest with you, I, even I, would have blown this off, but there was something, there was something about this man's demeanor.
His very, very, very serious demeanor.
Well, now keep in mind that Nigeria, according to the expertise that I've been drawing upon, is the heart and soul of more con games On the western world, at any other place in the world.
No question about it.
There are faxes that come from Nigeria.
They try to con all kinds of things in Nigeria.
And they're very efficient.
I mean, documents can be made up.
They can look so official and all that.
But you're right.
There was something different.
And the different part is, I know historically that this tribe has a derivation back to where he claims it does.
That's one.
Number two, the synchronicity.
of him calling, just as we're looking into this, even before I was able to let you know.
And, you know, I'm a curious person.
I want to pursue this because there is a hidden side of Africa and Egypt that this trip could bring out.
There is a timing here that is extraordinary and connected to all the research we've done all the way back to Mars, whose time has come.
You know, this audience, the people who are listening to us tonight, have been part of this unfolding saga.
And this is kind of like a whole new plateau, that if things work right, we'll be able to invite some of your audience on this trip.
But the timing of this individual... The way I look at things, Art, is that there are times when a signal presents itself, and you should probably pay attention.
Now, I don't yet know what the signal is trying to tell us.
But I'm going to pursue it like it's an honest signal, and he's going to send me documentation, and I have sources I can call upon to find out more.
There are archaeologists and anthropologists who have worked with this tribe, which, by the way, is derivation of the Dagon, up further north toward the Sahara.
Yes.
And we know they have a real history.
Bob Temple has done a stunning job in the book he published in 1976 called The Serious Mystery.
Well, Sirius is heart and soul of what we're figuring out.
This ancient Egyptian ritual calendar, which has shown up now in extraordinary places, like in the heart of NASA.
So, I am intrigued about the synchronicity.
If I was asked for a, quote, rational or logical explanation, I would say this is the hyperdimensional physics in the consciousness mode at work.
As Mark Twain would say, when a steamboat times steam, So I'm going to follow the signal and we'll let everyone know where it leads.
No decisions yet.
All I guess I can say is, I think that if I were in the presence of God or Messiah, I think I would know it.
But I'm not sure, Richard.
I'm not sure.
If I were to go to Africa and I were to get an audience with this Alumba Abu, I have a feeling that if he was who he says he is, I would know that.
But I'm not sure.
How about you?
I honestly don't know.
But I'm intrigued enough with this synchronicity that I'm going to pursue more information.
Yeah, okay.
Well, we'll leave it there.
I really don't know why I was compelled to put the guy on the air.
It was just something about my brief conversation with him earlier that made me think... I don't know.
There's something here.
Well, let's pursue it with an open mind and make no decisions because obviously there's a lot of ways you can reference what he's describing without getting all the way to the ultimate explanation.
Sure.
To me, it's the synchronicity.
It's almost like there's an important part of history that maybe this tribe has to tell the world, has to tell all of us, and we should be humble enough to keep asking the right questions, making no decisions yet.
But this was, in other words, you're saying there was a complete behind-the-scenes investigation that you were conducting, secret... Absolutely.
There was no communication with this fellow I just put on the air?
None.
When you came on tonight, and at the top of the show, the part that a lot of the country doesn't hear, announced that you were planning to go to Africa, and you had considered seriously Nigeria, that was an even further level of the synchronicity.
Well, as you well know, that part of the world is not exactly really calm right now.
No, and I would be very careful before I actually decided to go there.
In fact, one of the things that we had decided not to do, Based on expert advice that I've been getting, is not to go there.
Even before this phone call took place, if I had ever wanted to go to Nigeria, I wouldn't go this year because of the unrest.
I've come really close to saying I want to go anyway.
I got advised against it.
Even the State Department now is advising against doing such a thing.
But of course, this is a very strong reason to want to go.
Man, life is so strange.
All right.
Hey, by the way, while I'm not online, even though this is just a short visit, what else is new?
Oh, gosh.
Well, I'm really focused on trying to organize this.
Obviously, something of this magnitude, given that we have about six months, is not easy to put together.
Through another synchronous set of meetings, I met exactly the right individual to help me craft this.
And without that expertise, I wouldn't even begin to consider something crazy like this.
I used to do, as you may or may not know, cruises in one of my former lives.
Between my Cronkite years and my Hayden years, I took a ship on the voyage beyond Apollo.
It was the last Apollo mission to the moon, and I took a whole bunch of people, Bob Heinlein and Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov.
You know, Katharine Porter was on the ship, and I took this ship down, and we anchored offshore, and we followed the last Apollo through the Caribbean, winding up at Arecibo, having a picnic on the banks of Arecibo when the astronauts of Apollo 17 were walking on the moon, to basically try to put into context, even before it closed, what the Apollo era meant to humankind.
and then much much later i was
privileged to borrow the qe2 to chase uh...
the uh...
uh... comic-co tech how do you borrow the qe2 well you you know people and you
pay a lot of money and you know this is absolutely no money
And I've been very lucky in being able to borrow neat things to do neat things with.
That's part of what, I guess... Well, the only person I could imagine that could borrow the QE2 for no money would be Alumba Abu, not Richard C. Hoagland.
Well, I've done this, and it's in the foreword to my book, and it's in our biography and all that.
Anyway, that was a pretty amazing event, because I had Carl Sagan on board, and I had Ken Franklin.
Who was one of the discoverers, and my boss at the Hayden at that time, he was one of the discoverers of the radio mission from Jupiter, and one of the really neat things was to stand on the stern of the greatest ship in the world and pick up the telephone, because they have these little cool things sitting back there with telephones to the bridge, and calling the captain and asking him, uh, could you please, you know, move 20 points to port, sir, so we can move the plume off the comet?
And he did.
So, it's been a while since I've done one of these, and I want to take a group of people, the right mix of people from our audience, as well as some other people, you know, kind of movers and shakers, and take them to the Middle East toward the end of the year to on-site show them, with the pyramids in the background, the things we have talked about in a more academic vein.
Well, you know, in January there's a great big thing.
A boss is trying to talk me into it, and I'm getting pressure from all kinds of quarters right now to show up in Egypt in January.
Well, they'll be there at the end of the year, into January.
You know what's going on over there in January.
Yes, and I wanted you and Ramona to come with, and I wanted to do the show from there.
And Graham's going to be, you know, part of it, and some other interesting people.
I know everybody under the sun, who's anybody, is going to be part of this.
And the calendar is predicting it.
This is why this ritual calendar that Ron and I have been working on is so crucial.
And a lot of things that have been puzzles will come clear.
And it's going to be a splendid adventure, and it will also bring some enlightenment to things we've talked about that will finally have real solidity.
But, in the midst of all this, I get this call from this guy!
And then he winds up on your show.
Now, when he talked to me, he didn't tell me that you were going to be interviewing him tonight.
He probably didn't know.
So, we're talking about a series of interesting synchronicities, and given the lineage of this tribe, and given our ability to confirm this through Robert Temple's work, I'm intrigued enough to follow the signal.
Now, do I believe there's a Messiah sitting in Nigeria?
No, not yet.
But I do believe there's something we should pay attention to here, and that's enough for me.
That's what curiosity and science are all about.
All right, my friend.
Let us stay in touch, as always.
We'll do a show soon.
Okay.
It was just interesting.
It really was, as you point out, rather synchronistic that he would have contacted you somehow, and then he showed up on my show.
I mean, I blow off a million people like that.
Yes.
You know, who I would just consider Total BS.
But there was something about him and there still is.
Richard, thanks.
Thank you, sir.
Could... Could God be a black man?
In a lost tribe in Africa?
Just north of Cameroon and Nigeria?
Well... I don't know.
I don't know.
We're going to break here at the bottom of the hour.
When we come back, we'll be in open lines, and anything you want to talk about is fair game.
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Good morning, everybody.
It is strange, isn't it?
I was actually planning a trip into Nigeria.
Been planning this for a while now.
Let me read this to you from the State Department, alright?
Nigeria Travel Warning.
The Department of State warns U.S.
citizens of the dangers of travel to Nigeria.
Nigeria has limited tourist facilities and poses considerable risks to travelers.
Violent crime practiced by persons in police and military uniforms, as well as by ordinary criminals, is an acute problem now in the country.
Use of public transportation throughout Nigeria, including taxis, is dangerous.
Nigerian airlines have aging fleets, and the U.S.
Embassy is concerned that maintenance and operational procedures may be inadequate to ensure passengers' safety.
Business charity and other scam target foreigners worldwide and pose danger of financial loss.
Recipients pursuing such fraudulent offers risk physical harm if they come to Nigeria.
And that pretty well sums up the State Department warning on Nigeria.
And yet... And yet I was... Believe me, we were actually setting up the travel plans.
for Nigeria and so this comes as Richard would say rather synchronistically I wonder if God was on earth and you were in his presence you would understand without further need of proof knowledge hard proof that you were in the presence of of our Lord.
I don't know.
I'm just going to leave that whole thing where it is right now and you can draw your own conclusions.
We're about to go to Open Lives.
Listen, there is a photograph on my website right now, unlike any that you have ever seen in your whole life.
I make no warranties about it non-zero.
I don't know where it came from.
Actually, I guess we do.
We have the fellow's name who sent it.
And an email address.
Hopefully it's a good one.
But this picture is... It's indescribable.
It's... It's... Probably... Was it one time a human being?
Maybe.
I don't know.
All I can say is you go take a look and you tell me.
I don't have the slightest idea what it is we're looking at.
Not the slightest idea.
I'm sure, in good time, we're going to find out.
Somebody will find out where this photograph came from, what it is, and blah blah blah.
But for now, we don't know.
And so it just says, what is this?
You know, I mean, go up to the website and click on it, take a look for yourself.
You look at it and you go, oh my God!
What is this?
I have no answer.
The news from Australia is very, very serious.
Sydney's water contamination crisis that forced millions of residents of Australia's largest city to boil tap water Has been rather serious now.
It seems like it's ending.
And they're now saying the water may be free of parasites, which caused severe diarrhea.
And we're talking about millions of people now.
We're getting more and more warnings like this from more and more places.
It's really odd.
So, the report we had the other day on the air from Australia, by the way, was absolutely accurate.
Absolutely accurate.
In the meantime, any of you who have seen, by the way, this photograph, please call in and tell me what you think it is that we're dealing with here.
In Kentucky, surgeons are poised to attempt the first transplant of a human hand from a cadaver to a human being.
I'm not kidding you.
I know it sounds like something from Frankenstein, but it is not.
Surgeons at Jewish Hospital there in Louisville, Kentucky feel there is a better than 50% chance that they can successfully transplant a hand from a cadaver to a living human and that within four to five weeks of surgery the person will have full movement and that with more time A complete feeling as the nerves connect.
Don't we live in strange times?
And one other thing, I want to give Sean David Morton some credit.
Now, we repeated last night, some of you may have heard it.
Think about this.
Art, the last time Sean David Morton was on Coast to Coast, which happened to be repeated fortuitously last night, He predicted that President Clinton's ultimate fall from grace would begin August 17th.
He made that prediction, folks.
Now, guess when Clinton is scheduled to begin testifying before the grand jury.
You got it.
August 17th.
Looks like Sean may have nailed it again.
Gary in Las Vegas.
And Gary, you're exactly right.
Undeniable.
We have it recorded.
The date of the beginning of testimony was just announced.
Intriguing.
On my international line, you are on the air.
Yeah, hi Art.
Hello.
My name is Frank.
I'm in Alberta, Canada.
Hello Frank.
Welcome to the program.
Yeah, I'm actually up here from the Seattle area.
And I'm also a researcher for Richard.
Yes.
For Richard Hoagland.
Yes, who I just had on the air.
Right, and I just want to say hello to Richard.
I'm up here, actually in part on vacation, also doing some research for Richard.
I'm headed, well actually tomorrow I'm headed up a gondola at Banff.
I'm actually at Banff in Alberta.
But what I'm doing is I'm headed up to a museum that's actually in Tyrell.
It's in Drumheller at the Tyrell Museum on dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs?
Right.
And I'm working on a project for Richard in connection with dinosaurs he may talk about on some future show.
OK, obviously this is something he is not yet prepared to talk about publicly.
Well, I think he will shortly.
Also, I was with Graham Hancock here in Seattle a couple of weeks back.
And I know you just had this guest on from Africa.
I didn't actually hear that part, but my understanding from talking to Graham is that he was doing some studies a while back on the last tribe of Israel, and also the Ark of the Covenant, which is supposed to be in Ethiopia, and it's usually called Oxum.
Don't ask me why I put this man on the air.
Listen, I appreciate your call.
Thank you.
There was something about him.
connection you know and what
going on and nigeria perhaps i don't know don't ask me why i put this man on the air i uh... listen i
appreciate your call thank you i uh...
there was something about him that's all
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Now we take you back to the night of August 3rd, 1998 on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Thanks for watching.
This is, I think, the day before the last announcement.
Um, I'm about to end the autographed... I have two books.
One is called The Art of Talk.
It's a brand new book.
And it is an autobiography.
It's about my life.
Pictures of my parents and pictures of me when I was a baby.
Some of them rather embarrassing.
But mostly it's about talk radio.
My life in talk radio.
And it has been revised.
It's a beautiful book.
And it's about to go into the bookstores nationwide.
And as you know, I have another book called The Quickening.
And It was a New York Times bestseller list.
Both of these books for about the next day.
In other words, I'm about to say the end.
I kind of look at how many books I have to sign and I'm making a decision and probably tomorrow night I'm going to announce the end.
On my international line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Well, hi, Art.
This is Eric.
I'm calling from Winnipeg, Manitoba, in Canada.
Yes!
And I just wanted to comment.
I was trying to get on earlier to warn you about how Nigeria is fraught with... Oh, everybody knows there's all kinds of fraud over there.
But you know something?
From such an area, don't imagine that such a thing could not occur.
Well, I mean, I have no way of really knowing, but It sounds like the fellow has some kind of messiah complex, perhaps, or something.
No, he's not.
Oh, you mean the fellow in Nigeria?
Right.
I see.
Could be.
Just a thought.
And I was glad to hear that Richard, as usual, came through and called in.
I would love to be able to ask Richard some questions about some of the things that he commented about.
Was it the Mars Global Surveyor?
Yes.
He mentioned something about the camera, its range of sensitivity and so on.
Wanted to ask some questions about that, unfortunately.
That's fine.
We'll have Richard on, as I said earlier, doing a full show soon, so you can ask then.
Okay.
All right?
Thanks.
Thank you, and take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Morning, Art.
Good morning.
This is Kyle from Fort Worth, listening to you on 570 KLIF.
Yes, sir.
Okay, I was just wondering, That person that called about that spear that supposedly pierced Jesus?
Yes.
Well, supposedly it's in the basement of a castle in Nuremberg, Germany.
And also, I was wondering, what are the possibilities, if any, of you ever going prime time?
Uh, this is prime time for me.
It is?
Yeah, I love this time.
I wouldn't... Look, you couldn't drag me to the daytime.
You couldn't?
Nope.
I work rotating shifts as a police officer and I would love to catch you during the day sometime.
Look, people during the day would not understand me.
They wouldn't understand this show.
They wouldn't understand what we do.
I believe people love to hear you 24-7 if you could ever manage it.
Well, I thank you for the vote of confidence.
That's very nice.
But again, it's my view that this program belongs precisely where it is, in the nighttime, and I don't want to change that.
On my international line, you are on the air.
Hello?
Hello?
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
I was calling about the photo that you said to take a look at.
Oh, the photographs?
Yes.
All right.
Fine.
What do you think?
I deal in graphic arts.
That's my business.
And I looked at it closely.
Yes, you went right down to the pixel level, I'm sure.
Yeah.
And it appears to be two pictures of feet have been laid in over the The mass of whatever the body is.
Well, what is the body?
Well, I would say just by looking at it, coloration and all, that it's possibly a prop.
There was a head to it that looks like it's been removed, or brushed out, cut out, because there's a very, very, just the way the line is near the top of the head.
Let me warn you about something, or I guess discuss something with you.
I've put up, over the years now, I've learned, I've put up a gazillion pictures, you know, different pictures of different things.
Some of these photographs, certainly not this one, but some I have known to be absolutely legitimate photographs.
Some of them, some of the photographs I've taken myself, my own 35mm camera, and then scanned with my own HP scanner, good high quality scanner.
And no matter what I put up, I get photo experts calling and saying, I looked at line 47, pixel 36, and I can see by the shading here that this is a fake photograph.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't look at it that precisely.
I just looked at it quickly.
And it seems very, very visible.
You know, I'm sure you could sit down and analyze it closer.
But it's kind of sloppy.
It's to that point.
See, I didn't see that.
I can't see the sloppy part of it.
Maybe you're right.
It's just the way they smudge the pixels around where they lay the feet in.
And the coloration on the feet.
The feet look real.
Yeah, they do.
The legs are a different color.
Let's say for a second that you didn't believe that it was a fake picture.
Let's say you thought it was genuine.
What would you say we were looking at?
Well, it's like an amorphous mass, really.
When I first looked at it, just from your thumbnail, you could tell that it was a foot that didn't lay right.
That's right, yeah.
and then when you click on the larger uh... math uh... it just came up the the coloration and all looks to
hollywood to me like a prop
understand that and that's just by first you know to personalization i'm sam
there's also an interesting uh... seems that there's a something on the wall there
splash mark not really graffiti on a sequel yes he could think or
values of the i know i i thought
i thought this was some body or something that had fallen from a
great height but there would be there would be blood
God Bless.
Yeah, no... Anything that would produce that kind of a... whatever it is you want to call the condition of that thing, would produce blood all over the place, so... Yeah, yeah.
No, I didn't think that it had been compressed by gravity or anything in that manner.
But that's why it looks the way it does.
All right.
Look, I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
There is no photograph under any conditions, even a legitimate photograph that you can put up without people claiming it's a fake.
And in some cases, they're correct.
In other cases, they are not correct.
You get down to the pixel level and you begin to see all kinds of things.
So, I'm telling you, this is a bizarre, this is really, really a bizarre photograph.
So, if you can get to a computer, take a look, you know, we'll leave it up there, I'm sure, for the next 24 hours or more.
It's pretty gross.
It's impossible, but it's There it is.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Oh, hi.
I'm calling from New Orleans.
New Orleans, yes.
Oh, boy, do we have an echo.
Hold on a sec.
Let me see if I can get rid of the echo.
There, I think that's better.
How's New Orleans?
Hot.
Yeah, hot.
Cool off at night, either.
But I wanted to say that the gentleman that was on before from Nigeria?
Yes.
He was a little vague on some things.
When he said that there was a delegation from Israel, He didn't even give names or who or what.
And I don't... Well, if he had given me names, I wouldn't have known them anyway.
Well, I mean, he could have said it was like the government or some rabbis or some Christians.
I would assume that it was a religious group.
Because if it was anybody in the Jewish part of Israel, they wouldn't have really bothered to go on because what he Claims is nothing that Jews would have any interest in.
Well, here's what I was looking for during the interview.
I asked him, do you have anything to sell?
Remember I asked him that?
Uh-huh.
I took it that he was trying to wait for you to give him the go-ahead.
I did!
Not really.
Yeah, I did.
How much more of a go-ahead do you need than do you have anything to sell?
It sounded more like a question, but the thing is that You know, when people say that... Now, let me put it to you this way.
He knew that the hour was wrapping.
He knew he was going to be off.
And so, if he'd have anything to sell, he'd have whipped out an 800 number... Well, not necessarily.
But as far as, like, the Jewish Messiah, it has nothing to do with end times, and it has nothing to do with God coming in human form.
So that's, for a Jewish person, that wouldn't spark any lightning bolts.
Um, Christians view that as, you know, the Messiah is God and the Messiah has to do with end times, but the Messiah's
function was to restore Israel to the Jewish people, and the Jews expect the Messiah to come when there's no need
for the Messiah.
Alright, I appreciate your comments. I have no way of knowing, and you're welcome to believe whatever you wish to
believe.
I have not made up my own mind.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
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Time Tonight's program originally aired August 3rd, 1998
Good morning It's great to be here
It's great to be alive in such a strange time, isn't it?
I wonder where it's all going And when.
Now, we take you back to the night of August 3rd, 1998.
Now we take you back to the night of August 3rd, 1998 on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Al.
Hello.
Hello.
I'm calling you all the way from Portland, Maine.
Portland, Maine.
Yes, sir.
My name is Harold.
I have an interesting question to ask you.
I don't know how you want to answer this.
Neither do I. Here we go.
It's a deep philosophical question.
I hear it, and every once in a while you talk about religion and creation and all that.
Sure.
All right.
Here it is.
I know who created me.
My parents, two people that love each other very much, who or what created God?
That's a heavy question, isn't it?
I'd like to hear you ask Father Malachi Martin that question.
I'm telling you.
I'd like to see what he would have for an answer.
Well, let's see what the audience has for an answer.
Yeah, another thing.
My father used to work for Kirk.
He was a sexton.
And that's a glorified word for janitor.
So anyways, I used to have some very interesting discussions with these priests.
And I asked that question.
What'd they say?
They were shocked.
I got thrown out of his office.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
That's the truth.
Thank you.
I asked some questions like that.
Myself when I was when I used to go to church Sunday school and That finally got me tossed out to the one day.
They finally asked my mom not to bring me back anymore Questions like that they don't like questions like that Who created God now he said my mom and my dad created me Well Yeah, in a sense they reproduced and that is an act of creation in a sense of the word but I think that I think I don't know how to answer the question myself who created God?
One answer might be that God was not created That God has always been here, and always will be here.
And we are limited by our perception of time.
In other words, we look at time in a linear fashion.
One thing happens prior to another, and another thing happens after whatever is happening right now.
We have a linear sense of time.
If you have no sense of time, or if in fact there is no time, or if in fact time is our invention, then there never was an original creation.
Because there would be no time reference for it.
That was a pretty cool answer.
That was the best one I could think of at the moment.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning, Art.
This is Steve in Rancho Bernardo, California.
Hi, Steve.
So you want to know the future, huh?
Well, I don't know if I do or not.
Well, you've been leading up to my call, and here it is.
I know what's going to happen, and you could too.
I'm a student of the Bible, a servant of the Lord and a student of His Word, and I've been receiving some revelations.
When God showed himself to me, I made a commitment to him.
How?
How have you been receiving the revelations?
Directly from the scriptures.
I get messages, you know, just synchronicity and things like that, like Richard was talking about, that help guide me as well, but the truth is in the scriptures.
It was all written down in the beginning, and it's all going to be fulfilled as it was written.
How do you know it's all accurate?
Because I've been given some of the keys.
I've been able to read some of the things that most people miss.
And I know they're true.
Why do you assume most people miss them?
Because I listen to what they say and I read what they've written and I know that what I have to say is going to be new to many people.
Although, as I say, it was written long ago.
What's going to happen is God's going to reveal some of the things that He's deliberately withheld from man.
He's going to show them what He's just shown me.
And I can show you how to do it.
I can show you the keys to read the Scriptures.
The blessings of Israel are the model.
It has within it everything you need to unlock Several mysteries that you will know.
Well, since you know all these things, why don't you save me the trouble and tell me what's going to happen?
Well, as I said, God will reveal the mysteries to people.
People will be able to see with their own eyes, right in the Scriptures.
Alright, I appreciate the word, read the Bible.
I mean, what you're really telling me is read the Bible.
The conversation started out, I will tell you what's going to happen.
And that there have been things revealed to me that others have not seen, reading the same words.
That is the essence of what you said.
And then you refuse to tell me what those things were.
That is not satisfactory.
I understand that you think you know.
It's too bad you wouldn't share.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
I can make things very easy for everybody right off the bat.
You too, huh?
Oh yeah, and that is the following.
There are no messiahs, there never ever have been, and there never ever are going to be.
You an atheist?
I'm kind of a pagan.
I was going to say that if God had a color, it has to be green.
Why green?
I'm tempted to say money, to be flip, but on the other hand, it's like the color of the Rainforests and the ancient redwoods here in Northern California.
As far as, you know, if you were God, would you want to come back to a place that did not have flush toilets or air conditioning?
We have to consider other things here, too, and that is that ancient Egypt... Now, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
If you were God, you said, would you want to come back to a place without air conditioning and flush toilets?
That's right.
I mean, would you show up in some place?
When Jesus walked on earth, there was no air conditioning, nor were there flush toilets, to the best of my knowledge.
That's right.
That's because we hadn't invented them by then.
So then why would it be Unnecessary precursor to his return this time.
That's silly.
Well, I'm just saying that would be a concern of mine if I were God.
And I would just think, well, if somebody else were God, they would naturally have the same inclinations toward, you know, modern, comfortable, convenient.
Now, these would be considerations for me to go somewhere.
Flush toilets and air conditioning.
Thank you.
I don't think for God.
Now, about ancient Egypt.
Ancient Egypt.
Did you see any mummies when you were in Egypt?
No.
Oh, I'm sorry about that, because without a doubt, every one of them would have been white people.
For some reason, the only black people that were in ancient Egypt were the Nubian slaves that are talked about by Herodotus and... Well, I fully see where we're going here, and I'm not going there with you, sorry.
Don't you doubt for a second that God could appear in any form.
If you think that God's coming back as a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, white guy... God could come back in any form.
And I don't know what makes you think that he's going to come to where there's air conditioning and all the convenience of life, including satellite TV or whatever else you might consider to be convenient.
In fact, if there's anything that can be revealed from a casual reading of the Bible, it's that he's more likely to show up among the downtrodden than he is the air-conditioned.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
Hi.
Calling from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Yes, sir.
And I was curious, this fellow talking about Christ, Nigeria, is he any relation to Benjamin Crimm and Maitreya?
No, not as far as I know.
Maitreya is supposedly in Great Britain and has nothing to do at all with Nigeria.
Have you ever looked into the Cher International website?
No.
Okay, because it says something about Maitreya being seen all in Africa.
Really?
Yeah, talking about the crosses even being seen in window panes.
Signs of Mary?
You know, you can't really rule anything out.
That's my feeling.
You listen to people and you make judgments, but you can't rule anything out because when he does come, if he is here, he could be there as easily as he could be here or in Israel or anywhere else.
Right?
Yes, sir.
I don't know.
It just struck me.
It's very interesting, especially here in the last several years.
You've even got a fellow calling you every once in a while, claiming to be the six-fingered messiah.
I do.
What is his deal with August 8th?
I don't know.
We'll find out, I guess.
It's coming up fast.
Today's the 4th, so we'll see.
I'll be looking in the east, then.
Thanks.
Western Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Good morning.
I want to tell you, you're being brave for opening up such a can of worms tonight.
Oh, look, I live on worms, you know.
Well, I'm calling from San Diego, AM 600 here in San Diego.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Top of the morning to you.
Well, basically, I just wanted to say, you know, I apologize for the views of some of your listeners, but you know, everybody has their own.
Everybody's entitled.
But the thing is, though, that I was raised in basically a Christian household, and though I don't conform to Christian beliefs and so forth, and being a black person and all, I've always wondered, hey, could God be black?
And I've heard the arguments pro and con, and I refuse to make a judgment one way or the other.
Well, according to my last caller, God would only come back to an air-conditioned, comfortable location.
With a flush toilet and suntan oil.
But I have to admit that I'd like to believe that we can just be open-minded to this concept.
I mean, it's a possibility.
You know, for years I was raised in black churches where we had a picture of a Caucasian Jesus on there.
You know, that's what I had an image of God, as being Caucasian.
I can't rule it out, but I, by the same token, would not pass up the idea that a Messiah could be black, or Asian, or Hispanic, or what have you.
You know, until, and hopefully, you and Richard will have the opportunity to go and look into this a little bit.
I'd be really thrilled about some images here.
I wonder if one would know if they were in the presence of God.
I kind of believe you would.
I mean, if you were in the presence of someone who had that awe-inspiring power, that omnipresence, that omnipotent power, you should be able to know.
I think you would if it was the real thing.
Walking down the street in our local downtown have, I'm sure, run across somebody who claimed to be the Messiah and looked like somebody who just downed a bottle of Ripple or whatever.
So you know the difference.
I think if you're in the presence of the real person, or the real being, you would know, you would feel.
Well, maybe, but you've got to also imagine, thank you, that minus the bottle of Ripple, That somebody might have just downed, and there's plenty of those.
And I, you know, I turn those down all the time.
I get plenty of people like that.
Leave email, letters.
This fellow was different, that's why I put him on the air.
Of course, was not claiming to personally be the Messiah.
Now, there would be some people who would have a mental disturbance Minus the ripple and would still probably give that aura off.
So that's why I wonder, if you were in the presence of the real McCoy, whether you would know?
And I lean toward thinking that yes, the answer is yes.
So you know, if I actually thought for a second, That God was in that very difficult portion of Africa.
I would make the trip anyway, despite the apparent danger.
And there is quite a bit of danger.
And if I were sufficiently convinced, I might do it.
Would you?
First time caller on the line.
You're on the air.
Hi.
Uh, hello?
Hello!
Um... Um, I'm Felicia.
You are, huh?
Where are you calling from?
I'm from Bloomington, I'm from Minnesota, and I'm 12 years old.
12 years old?
Yeah.
In Minnesota?
Let's see, in Minnesota it's gotta be like, after 4 o'clock in the morning.
I know, it is 4 o'clock in the morning.
So what are you doing up so late?
I've been trying to get on, talk to you.
Well, you're here.
I have five things I'd like to talk to you about.
Four of them are really, really quick.
Okay.
My uncle used to listen to your show all the time.
He used to have a dog.
Do you still have him?
You mean Giza?
Yeah.
Giza's outside, yes.
Okay.
He wanted to know that because you never talk about him anymore.
Okay.
Today I've been looking for your books all over.
Yes.
And today I got one of your books.
I got The Quickening.
I'm into chapter four of it, and I love it.
It's a great book.
Thank you.
And I have another book that's called Strange Stories and Amazing Facts, and it's got tons and tons of really cool stuff in there.
I was wondering if you'd maybe like me to make copies of it and send it to you?
Of the book?
Pages of the book.
Pages of the book?
Well, you're welcome to do that if you would like.
And I have a favor to ask of you.
Okay.
I'm probably, like, your biggest fan that's under the age of 12, you know.
I'm not an average kid.
I can tell.
Not up at this hour.
And I was wondering if you could, like, maybe send me something that's autographed.
Oh.
Big, big fan.
You're going to have to communicate with me privately.
Because the last time I said something like this on the air, you've just got to understand that I can't say it on the air, because if I were to say that I would do it, I would be signing autographs until the end of the world.
Which, by the way, if you've been listening, could be soon.
Okay.
So communicate with me privately by email or letter or something, okay?
Okay.
Thank you.
I can't make any guarantees about that, I'm sorry.
First time caller on the line.
You're on the air.
Hi.
The reason I'm calling is I just want to give you a little slant on this person in Africa who's claiming to be God.
Pardon?
Is it okay?
As you know, there will always be people who will claim that they're messiahs and they're gods and I'm sure you're wise to them.
Why you would think this person is any different That's your opinion.
I didn't say I did.
I just said that the man intrigued me enough so that I put him on the air.
It's interesting, but I just, I fetched my Bible and I checked a couple of things.
The man spoke about the Edomites.
In Malachi 1, 1-5, it says, God hated Esau and condemned his descendants who were the Edomites.
I won't elaborate on that.
Anybody can check that.
Okay.
And in Matthew 24, it talks a lot about the signs of the second coming of the Lord.
And it tells us that when He comes, it will be as if lightning has come.
It comes from the east, but it will be seen even in the west.
It will be seen everywhere at the same time.
At the same time, the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn.
They will see Him all at the same time.
It's coming in clouds and from the sky.
He's not going to be sitting around in a little jungle village.
Now, wait a minute.
He did say that.
He said that when it happens, it will happen to everybody at once.
Did you hear that?
I didn't hear that part.
Yeah, he did.
He said that.
I'll believe it when I see it, my friend.
Well, look, I'm with you.
I'm with you all the way.
I just thought, you know, a lot of people listen who are not well acquainted with their Bible.
And it's important that innocent people not be misled.
And I know that your show is extremely interesting.
So reliable in so many things.
I respect the kind of guests you have and what they have to say, but there are a lot of people who listen who really don't have knowledge.
Look, I don't warranty anything.
Even guests that seem to come here with PhDs and all kinds of credentials, I don't warranty them either.
Yeah, okay.
I just allow different kind of stuff on the air, and I let people make their own judgments.
It's endlessly interesting, and I, you know, you keep me up nights, and I mean, it's not every guy who can do that.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Okay, thanks a lot.
You take care, Montreal, Canada.
You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from August 3rd, 1998.
The first concert took my baby's life.
Last Saturday evening, came to the old oak tree.
It stands beside the river where you were to meet me.
The first concert of the night.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, on Premiere Radio.
Anything is possible tonight, anything at all.
Who knows?
presentation of Coast to Coast AM from August 3rd, 1998.
Welcome to the program, those of you who join at this hour.
Anything is possible tonight, anything at all.
Who knows?
But then again, that's kind of the way I like it.
Now we take you back to the night of August 3rd, 1998 on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
I'm going to play you a little bit of that.
It's a little bit of a different song.
It's called Somewhere in Time.
It's a song that's about a guy who's in love with a girl.
And he's in love with a girl.
All right, here we go.
West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
Christ himself prophesied a lot of false Christs right before his coming, and it sure does seem like we're getting a lot of them with Maitreya and Moon and... Well, maybe that's it.
Maybe it's just a sign that says he's about to come because we're getting, as you point out, so many of these that probably are false.
That would be the case.
Did you decide if you're going to go or not to try and check it out?
Well, I'm going to Africa.
Um, whether or not I go there, I'm being warned it's very dangerous, but I might.
Well, if I may say, Christ's only advice in the Bible is that whenever people say that they know where the Christ is in his place and whereabouts, don't go there and don't believe him.
That's what it says in the Bible.
Alright, thanks for the call.
Uh, I don't know.
You know, I would need to know more.
But under the right circumstances, I might do that.
I might.
I'm, I'm, I know what curiosity did to the cat.
But I might.
I've been to lots of dangerous places before.
Life is a big crapshoot, anyway.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello, Art.
Yes, hello.
Uh, are you live?
Um, well, last time I checked, I was.
You know, I'm feeling a little drowsy, but mostly, I seem to be still ticking.
Okay, well, I'm listening to the radio, and it's not... Well, that's why we tell everybody, don't listen to the radio.
Okay, how you doing?
Turn off your radio.
Oh, okay.
Now, there's a great demonstration, folks.
That's why we tell people don't listen to your radio.
Okay, I've got it.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
I'm glad I finally got through.
I've been trying to call forever.
Forever?
Yeah, this is Pat from Tennessee.
Yes, ma'am.
From Nashville.
Oh, really?
You know what?
We just got the survey for Nashville today?
Yes.
And we are number one, number one, number one in Nashville.
I am not surprised at all.
Cool, huh?
We love Art Bell.
I'm an Art Bell-aholic, I'll have to admit.
Well, thank you.
Keeps me up really late.
I'm going to have to get some sleep.
Everybody else has pretty much said what I wanted to say, but I just wanted to tell you, I don't think you need to go to Nigeria.
Well, perhaps not.
But, you know, isn't it strange that earlier in the year I was actually planning a trip to Nigeria.
Yes.
I really was.
And, in fact, I said so on the air.
And I kind of got talked out of it because of all the danger.
And so I decided, well, I'll go down to Cape Town in South Africa instead.
Maybe in October.
Yeah.
And now, all of a sudden, here comes this thing from Nigeria.
Really weird.
Well, how did he find out about you?
Did they get to hear your broadcast?
Yeah, I guess.
He knew about me.
Quite some time ago and apparently tried to come up and see me when I was in Egypt and just missed me.
I had just left Egypt when he got there.
So they're really actively looking for me.
Wow.
Yeah, I know.
That's really weird, isn't it?
Yes.
And then Richard Hoagland on top of that.
So weird on weird.
Well, you know, it just seems like it would be too dangerous to me.
I don't know.
I don't think I would do it.
Well, life is full of danger.
I've done a lot of dangerous things, you know.
But, you know, I am mindful of it.
Yeah.
Well, I just wanted to let you know about that, and I'm glad I got through.
I've been trying to call you forever.
I'm glad you did, too.
Thank you.
Okay.
Take care.
You know, I have an interesting attitude about danger.
And it's kind of that, if your number's up, your number's up kind of deal.
And so I've, for the most part, chosen to ignore warnings and go and do what I felt I wanted to go and do anyway.
But Nigeria, that's a pretty good gamble.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Morning.
Morning.
I think we have a really subtle but misunderstood interpretation of the word believing.
Because my dictionary defines believing as having insufficient proof so as to know something.
But that means that inherent in believing is doubt.
Well, inherent in believing is faith, sir.
Faith means believing in something for which you have not tangible proof.
Right.
But if I had been on a flying saucer, which would mean that I know I have it, right?
I don't believe it anymore.
I know it.
Correct.
I can only ask you to believe.
That's correct.
And that's what we spend a lot of time doing is trying to convince ourselves or somebody else to believe in something that they can not know by that means.
Correct.
So we spin a lot of wheels.
And I think somewhere in Frank Herbert's Guinness, it says, fear is the mind killer.
And not a lot can be begotten from... Well, you've got to think of it this way.
If God came back in whatever form, most people would not believe, or most people would not have faith, depending on how you want to look at it.
He would be denied as Christ was the first time.
I think He would put out of business most of the people that would ask us to believe in Him in the first place.
Man has created God in his own image since time immemorial.
I thought God created man.
Is it the other way around?
It may be.
You can't rule that one out either.
If we're the children of God, then we should probably need to grow up and become God-like and take on those responsibilities metaphorically.
I mean, I know, I understand.
We're nowhere close to that.
No.
High Hopes.
High Hopes, yes sir.
Okay.
Right.
Wasn't there a song by Sinatra, High Hopes?
Remember that?
Did that make great bumper music?
Um, Ease to the Rockies, you're on the air.
I'm on the air?
Well, yes you are.
Okay.
Um, you were asking the question about what God is?
Right?
No, not really.
Somebody called and said, um, My mom and dad created me, so who created God?
That's what he asked.
Okay.
The next speaker after that said that God has always been.
That's right.
No, I said that.
Okay.
God is spirit, and you cannot see spirit.
What I said was that we are the ones who adhere to linear time.
Right?
We operate by time.
We live, we die, we get older, we measure time.
With God there is no time.
That's what I said.
And He is eternal and spirit.
Well, that's what I said.
And He created everything out of spirit.
And what His purpose is in making mankind was for man to grow, to be like Him in spirit.
Well, so far it's turned out to be a cruel joke.
Well, God has a purpose and a plan.
And it has taken time for that purpose to be fulfilled.
We are the sons of God, but it does not now appear what we shall be.
But when he appears, we'll be like him.
And he is spirit.
So when the resurrection comes and Christ returns, the true Christians will be made spirit.
And we will see him as he really and truly is.
And it will not... Satan has deceived the whole world.
And that's why most people can't understand this because God has got a plan and when his
plan is completed then every man will have the veil removed from his eyes and he will
be able to understand God as he is because God is not a respecter of persons.
So everyone that has ever lived will be resurrected and there will be a time when they will have
their chance to understand and to know God.
I understand what you are saying and I understand from where you have drawn it.
And maybe you are correct.
And I wish that I had the faith that you obviously have and I don't.
And that's my shortcoming and it's your comfort.
And I would never challenge that.
On my international line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, my name's Alex.
I'm from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
Hello, Alex.
Listening to you on CFRA.
Yes, sir.
Alright, um, just some commenting on the Messiah thing?
Yes.
We're talking about, um, have you ever heard of the Lance of Longinus?
No.
Um, Spear of Destiny?
No, no.
Okay, these were supposed weapons that a soldier named, by the name of Longinus, pierced Christ with.
They're being held now in Germany someplace.
There's actually a... Do you have your radio on?
No.
No?
No.
I'm hearing something.
Ah, it's a cordless phone.
No, no, I'm hearing something in the background.
Oh, it's TV.
TV?
Yep.
You're calling a radio show with your TV on?
What's the matter with you?
I don't know.
I've never actually called before.
I'm a first-time caller.
I see.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, so you're saying...
That there's a spear that pierced the side of Christ, apparently, and it's being in Germany.
Apparently, it was found in World War II, and when Napoleon also had it and stuff.
Well, look, anything, you know, anything is possible.
And it's funny that the one thing that you scoff at and ignore might turn out to be the real thing.
I guess that's my attitude.
Other than that, I don't know what to say.
All right.
But anyways, if they really want to find out, and they keep talking about cloning and everything, they're apparently claiming to clone the Shroud of Turin at one point.
Well, they're trying to get DNA from the Shroud of Turin.
Thank you.
To clone Jesus.
They're going to make that attempt, I guess.
But I thought human cloning was banned.
what would be interesting to me would not be so much the cloning
although, naturally that would be interesting but an examination of the DNA, if they actually recovered
DNA from the shroud
would there be a difference, albeit a subtle difference, in the DNA of Christ
from human beings? And if there was, could
a DNA manipulation be made, I'm getting in very deep territory here,
to create in the embryonic stage I
I don't even want to finish the sentence.
You follow what I'm saying, don't you?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Well, hello, Art.
This is Rod in Port Coquitlam, British Columbia.
Yes, sir.
I just kind of wanted to make a comment.
It says in the Bible that God is life, so I really don't think it's necessary to make things more complex than that.
Okay.
In that case, that must be all you have to say.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you.
God is life.
Yeah, might be.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
You've kind of touched on a subject that's of interest to me, but I think I've got a take on it that maybe other people don't.
Okay.
Which is, maybe the Bible should be read something like a metaphor.
In other words, it might be truth, like say, or it might be factual, like say, the Battle of Troy.
I mean, they dug up the remains of the city, but it's still a myth.
Or the Odyssey is a myth, but you couldn't use the Odyssey as a sea chart.
So why is it every time the Bible talks about walking on water, people look around for actual
incidents of walking on water?
Why can't it just be a means of expressing something that lies beyond our understanding?
You can?
That's, um, see, I think maybe we should be looking at prophecy that way, that we shouldn't
be looking for an actual date or some sort of a fatality of numbers or, you know, maybe
Maybe we should look within ourselves.
Perhaps so.
Maybe that's where the end of the world takes place, and it's something that we all understand privately rather than on Well, let me feed you this little disturbing bit of information.
If it's something we all understand privately and just sort of feel, an awful lot of people are feeling it now.
And I agree.
I think that everybody's aware of it, but I think that we're also primed for it.
We have this idea that the world will end in the year 2000, and the same thing happened in the year 1666, when there was the Great Fire of London, and in Judaism there was a false messiah called the Sabbatei Sevi, and it swept all through Judaism, and everybody believed that he was the messiah, and there were all sorts of signs that they believed, but nothing happened.
Well, one of these days is all I'll say.
One of these days, you've got to imagine, uh, the real thing will appear.
And again, I say, I doubt it's going to be an air conditioning with flush toilets and cable TV.
International Line, you're on the air.
Hi, um, I had just gotten not a premonition, uh, something to do with, um, I get the Art Bell is being baited to Nigeria.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, I've been baited before, I'll be baited again.
So I was just sitting here and it said call him.
So I figured I won't let it go by.
You mean a voice told you that?
I get a lot of different things and they come true.
Therefore, I go with it.
Well... So I figured I won't let it go by.
I'll just call him.
I see.
Well... Okay.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, no problem.
Okay, take care.
You're in Canada, right?
Yes.
Okay, take care.
I've been baited before and I'll be baited again.
I simply present things here that you will not hear elsewhere.
And they, for example, tonight actually is a very excellent example.
You may have heard me being baited.
You may have heard a complete falsehood.
Or you've got to allow that little tiny possibility That what you heard is absolutely accurate.
Can you reject it 100%?
Oh yes I can Art, because I know how it's going to happen.
Well, that's fine.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi Art, this is a little belated.
I listened to you on KSFO and I just wanted to congratulate you on beating AGO.
I know that they're persistent.
Hold on a sec.
Hold on a sec.
We got echo here.
We have all kinds of echo.
In the very important group, the most important group that anybody looks at demographically is 2554.
We murdered him.
And I have no... I'm not going to mention the guy who was against you at KGR, who's on the air.
He's not against me.
No, no, no.
I know he's on the air.
But I'm just saying, it was an interesting thing.
Did you see what they did to the guy who was before him?
I don't want to mention names, but they moved him right against you in that 10 o'clock slot.
Oh, that's cool.
I thought that was good.
And I know his ego's got to be seething on that one.
Well, listen.
First of all, you mentioned names.
Ray Taliaferro.
Right.
I've been listening to Ray for 15 years.
So that's fine.
And as far as the change they made beforehand, I would say It's reactive.
Yeah, well, obviously it is.
I'm just really glad for you, because I think it's a great show.
And you know what?
I called you, I think, maybe a few days ago, and I shouldn't be calling so much to understand that, but I asked about Dr. Goldberg and the Men in Black.
Oh, yes.
But when you answered it, I never heard the answer on the radio, because my radio, like, went dead right after.
What did you mention about those guys?
Could you just give it to me real quick?
Good?
Bad?
Um, well I think probably from our perspective, bad.
Okay.
Nothing good about the men in black.
Okay.
Not nice guys.
Alright, well thank you very much and congratulations once again.
Alright, thank you and take care.
Lester the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, this is Judge from California.
Hey Judge.
How are you?
Doesn't sound like you, but everybody says that.
They do.
I'm the guy with the halo.
I'm just getting off the air here.
You're just getting ready to go off the air.
That's right.
The guy with the halo that everything you guys, everybody said in the whole country is my life.
I relate to it.
It's the light of God that's around me.
I have to live with it every day for seven years.
Listen, we're out of time.
I know.
Halo guy, tell them goodnight.
Good night from sunny California and I'll see you in the San Luis Valley.
There you have it.
Tomorrow night we will do whatever it is we do again.
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