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Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from July 21st, 1998.
art bell
From the high desert and the great American Southwest.
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Good evening.
art bell
And or good morning, how are you?
I'm Art Bell from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands, outwest eastwards to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Good morning in St. Thomas, south into South America, north all the way to the Pole, and worldwide on the internet.
This is Coast Coast AM.
Good morning.
See how much trouble we can get in today.
Let me tell you that coming up this Friday night, Saturday morning, once again, my popular demand, Gary North.
In the next hour, my popular demand, Alex Collier.
And I've got a lot of other stuff cooking for this week that I'm afraid you're going to have to find out about at the last moment because of the nature of the way it's coming together.
So there you have it.
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Let's peruse the news, such as it is.
art bell
Starr Appeals ruling over leaks.
As his prosecutors questioned Secret Service officers, Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr fought a judge's ruling on just how much information he'll have to disclose over alleged grand jury leaks in the Lewinsky investigation.
The Senate has rejected mandatory gun locks.
Good for them.
At least they've done something.
Dealing a blow to handgun control advocates, the Senate turned back an election-year Democratic effort to require that all handguns sold in the U.S. include safety locks.
And, you know, once they had a law that would require, you know, require the sale of locks with guns, there would be but one step then to having a law which would say that all guns have to be locked, which is a crock.
Now, nobody in their right mind wants children to get hold of guns, and nobody in their right mind would leave guns around for children to get hold of, but having a gun with a lock on it and then locked away in a safe or something like that, then you should not have a gun.
If you need a gun, you're going to need it quickly.
There are a few times in anybody's life, hopefully none, when you're going to ever need a gun.
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But if you do, you really need it.
art bell
And you're probably not going to have time to hunt around for a key, go open a safe, unlock your gun, and then use it for whatever you're going to use it for.
So, thank you.
The unrelenting heat wave claimed more victims.
Now 128 dead in six states because of heat.
And it is continuing.
Not here today.
We are, of course, going over or to just about 100 degrees, 102 maybe.
But thankfully, we've got some clouds.
As a matter of fact, right now, here in the desert, it is kind of drizzling.
No violent storms that I can see a little bit of lightning out there, but nothing too serious.
And the clouds have kept the temperatures down.
No such luck for Texas, and I understand the heat wave is going to move toward the north and east.
Treating people in New York City shortly to triple-digit temperatures.
Remember Commander Bill Donaldson?
Well, From the Nation published today the following.
It says, pilot claims two missiles hit Flight 800.
A retired Navy pilot who's been investigating the 1996 crash of Flight TWA-800 said Monday, the plane was in fact destroyed by two missiles that exploded just off the left wing.
William Donaldson, joined at a news conference by two former TWA pilots and three eyewitnesses to the July 96 crash, did not say who they believe fired such missiles.
One, he said, was launched from a boat just off the coast of Long Island, the other from a second vessel farther south.
And I guess I probably ought to have Commander Donaldson back on again.
He had some extremely compelling evidence regarding the final seconds of the black box digital readout that indicated tremendous overpressure from the outside.
And I always thought Commander Donaldson was very credible.
And so there you have it.
He's said it.
This is a very interesting story.
You better listen very carefully to what I'm about to read to you.
Russian scientists, this comes from the London Telegraph, Russian scientists are planning to put what will appear to be a second moon, ten times as bright as a full moon, into the night sky above London and other cities in November as part of a scheme to end nighttime.
Did you hear that?
Let me read that again.
Russian scientists are planning to put what will appear to be a second moon, which will be 10 times as bright as a full moon, into the night sky above London and other cities in November as part of a scheme to end night time.
The orbiting space mirror will pass across the night sky quickly, up to 16 times in 24 hours, but will last only one night, November 9th, before burning up in the atmosphere.
This is a test.
The reflecting spacecraft, Zamaya 2.5, is part of a Russian-led consortium's plan, which bears some similarities to the plot of the Bond film, Diamonds Are Forever.
The Space Regatta Consortium, which is a group of companies led by Energia of Russia near Moscow, wants to launch a constellation of several hundred mirrors, each up to 100 times brighter than the full moon,
my God, to cast sunlight from the far side of the globe into the darkest corners of Siberia during Arctic winter and make city streetlights obsolete.
The proposal, as you might imagine, has alarmed environmentalists and astronomers.
Daniel Green of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics said, quote, I cringe to think that we could lose the night sky because of all these companies with brain-dead ideas, end quote.
David Thomas of Bangor University told the BBC Wildlife that almost any ecosystem would get completely screwed up, his words, and that the permanent daylight could cause Arctic ice to melt.
He said plants and animals depended on darkness.
He said everything, sex, movement, feeding, is all triggered by daylight.
Provided there is little cloud on the night, London, Brussels, Frankfurt, Kiev, Seattle, and Quebec are among the cities that will be lit up by what will appear to be a disk between five and ten times as bright as the full moon.
Some estimates say it could appear to be up to half the size of the moon.
The previous experiment, that would be spacecraft number one, a 60-foot-wide space mirror, was hampered by cloud and at best it was only half as bright as the moon since the reflector did not form a full disk.
So do you realize what they're getting ready to do?
They are preparing to end nighttime.
Now, initially, this will be in the northern latitudes.
For example, Seattle, where I'm being heard right now.
Now, folks in Seattle, you might want to comment, since you're going to be obviously affected.
Try and imagine no more nighttime.
Something that could potentially be as 100 times brighter than a full moon.
Now, while that is not quite a second sun, it's not too damn far from it.
100 times brighter than the full moon.
That would completely end nighttime as we know it, period.
And I don't think I'm too wild about this idea.
It may be that in very northern latitudes where they suffer a great deal of darkness, something could be done that would be reasonable, but the plans they have here, a constellation of several hundred mirrors, each up to 100 times brighter than the full moon, I think they've lost their damn minds.
And just because we can do it doesn't mean that we should do it.
But apparently, because we can do it, we're going to do it.
I just, I really honestly believe we've lost our minds.
Now, as somebody who does a nighttime talk show, I'm pissed.
How dare they take away nighttime?
How dare the Russians unilaterally consider taking away the nighttime?
Have they lost their minds?
They wrote to me a minute ago that didn't we just send them $22 billion so they could feed their people?
And here they're sending rockets up to take away the nighttime?
Here's somebody who writes, hey, Art, why the negative vibrations, old friend?
Why not consider the new sky mirrors a gift from Russia to the lads down at Livermore tinkering about with those pesky plasma cannons?
Hey Art, if the night goes away, amateur astronomers will not be able to see it coming.
Very good point.
It is mostly the amateur astronomers, you know, who locate these Earth-crossing possible killer, what do they call it, extinction-level event rocks.
So anyway, that's really driving me nuts tonight.
It's real.
Russians are actually planning to do this, and I bet we financed it too.
Do you remember that meteorite that fell in Greenland?
Well, next week a team is going to...
I don't.
But next week, a team is going to go to Greenland, and they are going to look for this so-called meteorite.
Now, who knows?
Who knows if it really was a meteorite?
And I remember the movie The Thing.
You remember that?
Where they found a disk in the ice?
And I'm not saying that's what they're going to find in Greenland.
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But I would say it's possible.
art bell
And I'm tired of everything that falls from the sky immediately being declared to be a meteorite.
So next week they're going to go and look.
And I wonder if we're going to get a big surprise.
All right, coming up in a moment.
That was a lot to go.
Oh, there is one more thing.
I will be giving you the details, but the new survey is coming out.
And I would like to tell you that we are number one in, for example, 25 to 54 age group.
It's a very important age group for radio.
In San Francisco, on KSFO, we have Walloped KGO.
We are number one.
We are number one in Los Angeles.
We are number one in San Diego.
We are number one in Chicago.
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And we are number one in New York City.
art bell
And I'll get the details to you as I can, but this is out in the last 24 hours.
So in the nation's largest markets, I think that would be market one, two, three, and four, in order, we are, as they say in football, number one.
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The End Now we take you back to the night of July 21st, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell
Art Bell And again, referring to the Marcotron numbers that I was quoting a while ago for all these major cities that are just beginning to come in, they are so incredible, so spectacular, that my boss said they're just not big numbers and high numbers and number one numbers.
They're like science fiction.
That's how good it is.
So thank you all.
I appreciate the fact that you appreciate the program, which is sort of weird.
But apparently you appreciate it.
I hope that talk radio will take a lesson from all of this and begin to diversify itself.
There is no law that says talk radio has to be all politics all the time.
And I hope some other people out there realize that.
Just a word to the wise.
Alex Collier has been an extraterrestrial contactee for over 30 years.
That's right.
Contactee.
Many, many of you have urged me to have him on.
Alex has been in contact with a human race from within the constellation of Andromeda located in our galaxy.
His experience has been both telepathic and physical.
His relationship with the Andromedans has been based on trust and friendship.
Alex's free will has never been violated.
And his experience must, and this is emphasized, must not in any way be associated with abduction.
The Andromedan perspective regarding Earth history, galactic history, our current social crisis, genetics, and other extraterrestrial races have been published in Nexus Magazine, Connecting Link, and Truth Seekers Magazine.
Alex's first book, Defending Sacred Ground, is currently being distributed internationally and covers this information and more.
Recently released information can be obtained from the Andromedan Paradigm website, and I would suggest to you that we have a link to that, so as you listen, you might want to read.
Alex's career background includes being a former U.S. Treasury officer and also running his own tax practice in Southern California.
And while I have chewed up most of the half hour, unfortunately, we've got lots of time.
This is radio.
Here is Alex Collier.
Alex, welcome.
alex collier
Good morning, Art.
art bell
How are you?
I'm just fine.
Well, no, I'm not, Alex.
You know, how can the Russians do this?
alex collier
Oh, you know, Art, that's why we haven't had mass contact, because they're still looking for intelligent life on this planet.
art bell
I guess so.
alex collier
You know, the Russians have never been a fan of solar energy, so I suspect that there's a lot more to this.
My first inclination would be that there's so much UFO activity, extraterrestrials coming and going from the polar openings, primarily the North Pole, that they may be trying to do something to thwart that.
art bell
Well, certainly the North Pole would be primarily affected, all northern latitudes, and that's way up north.
So that would take away the polar nighttime.
And of course, at the North Pole, it's roughly dark for half the year.
alex collier
Yes, it is.
art bell
And they're going to have that.
I mean, I just...
How could they possibly do this unilaterally?
This is the kind of thing that the UN ought to be doing.
We ought to take them to the damn world court and sue them.
I don't know what to do about this, but it's stupid.
alex collier
Yeah, well, that's a political issue, and the UN World Court is not something that's going to ever benefit us.
art bell
I know.
alex collier
It takes its place.
Yeah, I know.
art bell
I know nothing's going to benefit us.
Not only that, but here we are sending $22 billion to the Russians to feed their people, and they're using money to end the nighttime with 100 satellites.
Now, that's got to be very expensive.
alex collier
You would think so.
I mean, I would think it'd be a hell of a lot more money to put those things up than to pay for lights, you know, street lights, in Siberia, where nobody lives.
art bell
You know, I think it probably has something to do with productivity.
In other words, they think that they can have around-the-clock shifts doing all kinds of work, and productivity will double or something like that.
I think they're out of their minds.
I don't know what I'm going to do about this, Alex, but something.
And you might be right.
I have heard from a lot of sources, not just you, that there's an awful lot of comin's and goings at the pole.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
That is true, huh?
unidentified
Oh, yes, sir.
alex collier
It sure is.
And, you know, we're about to come out of the age of denial, I should say.
You know, there's a lot going on, and there's going to be a lot going on.
The bubble is about to burst.
The conspiracy to keep all of us in the dark, to hide our genetic past, our ancient past, is about to come to an end.
And, you know, I have tried for 10 years to educate people on a grassroots level about what's really been going on, at least what I've been taught.
art bell
All right, that's a great tease.
See, I chewed up the half hour, so hold on.
We'll get into the meat of all this when we come back in a moment.
Alex Collier is my guest.
And did you hear what he said?
That all of this secrecy, all of this cover-up, is about to come to an end.
unidentified
Hmm.
art bell
I wonder if we can take it.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
Coast AM
I feel everyone in my little game.
Thank you.
Take my breath away.
I can't wait till anticipation.
layne staley [aic]
Never hesitate to become a baby.
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Oh, oh, oh.
You're listening to Arc Bell Somewhere in Time on Pre-Meter Radio Networks.
Tonight, an on-tour presentation of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
art bell
And from Michael in Forest Park, Georgia, Art, I'm surprised that you have not come to the conclusion I have about this regarding the night thing with the Russians.
Because you mentioned night vision.
Remember, why did we win Desert Storm?
Because we had night vision and the Iraqis did not.
Need I say more?
No, you need not.
Good point.
unidentified
Good point.
You're listening to Arc Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
art bell
Music All right, now, I guess we probably, with Alex, had better go back to the beginning here.
What's making that noise anyway?
What kind of crazy noise is that?
Oh, well.
Alex, we better go back to the beginning.
And it began, I guess, for you, you say, in 1964.
And a lot of people, when they hear an extraterrestrial contactee, you know, they roll their eyes and they go, oh, come on, somebody in touch with the Andromedans.
Oh, come on.
So tell us how it happened.
alex collier
Well, you know, it's interesting.
People do do that, but they're more apt to believe somebody was abducted than the fact that somebody would be a contactee who would willing want to know another race and would want to share information and so on and so forth.
And it never ceases to amaze me just how short-sighted some people can be and predispositioned to have an opinion without having full knowledge of anything.
art bell
Well, you're right about that.
People do embrace the whole abduction thing.
For example, Travis Walton and company, a very famous abduction case with lie detector tests and all the rest of it and people believe that and I'm not saying they should not necessarily but when they encounter somebody like you who's been in contact with Andromedans you claim now for how long?
alex collier
Over 30 years.
art bell
Over 30 years.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
And they're not willing to believe that.
Many are not anyway.
But apparently many are because so many people urged me to have you on.
How did contact begin?
alex collier
Well we were on a family picnic up in Woodstock, Michigan near a lake and it was 1 o'clock in the afternoon and it was like a family reunion and we went off to play hide and seek and I took off in one particular direction and I can remember lying down and throwing chestnuts out of the way and or pine cones I think they were and lying down in the grass to hide.
And the next thing I remember it's night.
It's 9 o'clock at night.
And I woke up and I started walking back towards the picnic area and there were a lot of family members still there.
There were police cars or state trooper cars there, Michigan state police cars.
art bell
Really?
alex collier
And my mother was the first to see me and she came over and screamed and gave me a big hug and then whapped me.
art bell
Okay, no, no, no, wait a minute.
Slow up here for a second.
So you're saying, go through it again.
You were in a field.
You were lying down at about what time?
alex collier
About 1 o'clock in the afternoon.
art bell
1 o'clock in the afternoon.
And the next thing you knew, it was what?
alex collier
It was close to 9 o'clock.
art bell
9 o'clock at night?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
So that's classic missing time.
alex collier
Yes, sir, it is.
art bell
Now, you said that in no way is this an abduction, but that sounds like an abduction.
In other words, you were not exactly a volunteer at that point.
alex collier
Well, maybe not the initial, but, you know, let me finish the rest.
Okay.
What occurred to me was I was brought on board of a ship.
I woke up.
I was lying on a table.
And there were two beings standing next to me.
To my right was a very tall man with blue skin with no hair.
And to my left was a very short man, very, very old looking, whose skin was very pale white.
In Art, I had instant recognition of them.
Instant recognition.
I knew them.
And there are two beings.
The tall one, his name is Morinet.
If you were to take the tone of his symbol or holographic symbol, because they are a telepathic race.
Morinet has learned to speak English, to use his vocal cords.
The Saeus never did.
He was strictly telepathic.
art bell
Okay, you're racing past this.
I want to back you up.
Suddenly you're on a ship.
Yes, sir.
Describe for those of us who have not been on ships that we know of yet, what, I mean, when you opened your eyes or you first had sight, what were your physical surroundings?
Other than a table, are you in a room without windows?
Are you in a curved room?
Are you in a standard room with four walls?
What are you in?
alex collier
Okay.
The room was circular, and I was on a table.
I didn't know what the table looked like, you know, of course, at first.
And I remember looking at these two beings, and they started telepathically talking to me.
And I had instant recognition.
The next thing Morinet did was he took what looked like a yarmulke, except the middle of it was hollowed out, and he placed it on my head.
And he helped me sit up on this table.
And art, the walls, the room was lit.
I never knew where the light source was coming from.
It's just a frequency that the craft itself puts out creates light.
And, you know, hopefully we'll go to the light.
art bell
So it was a non-specific light.
In other words, everything was sort of light.
alex collier
Oh, everything glowed.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
alex collier
Mornay pointed to the wall.
Now, the room was circular.
There were no lines in the walls.
There were no doors.
There was nothing.
art bell
Really?
alex collier
Suddenly, he had this little gizmo in his hand.
He pushed the button, and literally out of nowhere, all of these meters and monitors appeared in the wall.
They weren't there a second before.
The next minute they were there.
And suddenly, what I started to see on one of the monitors, which acted like a television screen, were series of past lives.
I didn't know immediately what they were, but I knew it was me.
I absolutely knew that what they were showing me was me because I got extremely emotional.
And by the time this whole process finished, I knew the next scene that I was going to see.
And by the time it was over, I was crying because I knew that what they were showing was me.
And I know that you have a lot of people that listen to your show that are steeped in religion, and a lot of people have a difficult time with the concept of reincarnation.
Well, it's a reality for me.
art bell
I don't have a problem with it.
alex collier
Okay, good.
unidentified
It's a reality.
art bell
Well, as a matter of fact, actually, there was a vote taken by human beings at some point.
Reincarnation was originally, I understand, in the Bible.
alex collier
Yes, sir, it was until about 545.
art bell
Until men voted it out.
alex collier
The Vatican did.
art bell
Yeah, I know.
And so I don't have a problem with it.
I never have.
I think reincarnation probably is absolutely true.
But the implication of what you're saying is that the Andromedans know the answer to life's most puzzling questions, which are, of course, whether we survive in some way physical death, whether we, in fact, do have souls.
I mean, all of these questions, they obviously have the answers to, or they could not have given you a review of all your past lives.
What did you see?
Can you kind of give us a thumbnail sketch?
alex collier
Oh, I saw a lot of warrior.
I saw a lot of persecution where I had been persecuted.
I saw a lot of children.
I saw lives where I had drowned.
I saw fire, volcano, dinosaur, extraterrestrial craft shooting, flying over the desert, shooting at people, blowing them away.
A lot of it was Earth history, but not all of it.
Some of it had to do with our solar system, including Mars, and including Venus as well.
art bell
Are you sure?
Now, here's a question that I really have to ask.
You're out in a field.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Are you sure that you didn't take a serious fall and whack your head like Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz?
You know, I've got to ask him.
alex collier
And click my heels three times?
art bell
Yeah, you know.
Something like that.
alex collier
Oh, no, sir, I haven't.
I haven't.
I consider myself a pretty grounded person.
And, you know, it's everybody's choice to believe it or not.
You know, I'm just here to relay the information.
And I realize that part of this has to do with who the messenger is.
But, you know, the truth is, it's not about me at all.
You know, I'm just, I agreed to do this.
I should have read the fine print back when before I agreed to do it because it has caused a lot of hassles in my life.
art bell
I'm sure it has.
alex collier
You know, but I wouldn't trade a moment of it.
I have really come to love these people, and I feel blessed, Art, because I have a whole totally different perspective about our race.
And I have something else to compare it to.
unidentified
You know?
alex collier
And, you know, I want to cover as much information as we can tonight because I don't know if I'll ever be back on the show.
art bell
We've got plenty of time.
All right.
Since that first contact, how many additional contacts, or is it uncountable, have you had with the Andromedas?
alex collier
I stopped counting at 279.
Now, let me just explain something here.
It has not been continuous.
There have been stretches of years where there's been no contact.
And in truth, there's no pattern to it whatsoever.
I will have three in a week, I will have two in a month, and then I'll have nothing for six months or eight months.
unidentified
What's it been like lately?
alex collier
I've not had a contact in six weeks.
art bell
Six weeks?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Not that long ago.
All right.
If I were to ask, what is the reason or reasons for their contact with you, how would you respond?
alex collier
Well, I would say I'm not the only one.
There are at least four others, three others that I know of.
I'm being the fourth.
art bell
Okay.
alex collier
One in South America, one in Asia, and one in Europe.
The reason I have been told is apparently something, they come from the future.
Apparently something that happens in our time continuum, not only our solar system, but 21 other solar systems, affects the destiny of our galaxy.
Apparently what happens, what happened in their time, which is our future, is that suddenly tyranny began to reign in our galaxy.
And as many extraterrestrial races have time travel capabilities, they have come back to find out where the significant events occurred to make that shift into tyranny in our galaxy.
art bell
So they're watching Clinton closely.
alex collier
They're watching everybody.
They're watching everybody closely.
And then again, like I said, it's not just our solar system, it's 21 others as well.
art bell
Tyranny.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
art bell
So are they attempting to manipulate what's going on in this timeline?
alex collier
Yes, sir.
There's been intervention.
art bell
There has been intervention.
alex collier
And there will be more.
art bell
All right.
Let me be clear about this.
said these are andromedin.
In other words, they come from...
alex collier
It is a small solar system that circles, whose star circles around a larger star called Nirash in the Andromedan constellation.
art bell
How many light years from us would that be?
alex collier
It is approximately 623 million light years.
art bell
623 million light years?
alex collier
Yes, sir.
art bell
Wow.
So they not only have come to us through space, but through time as well.
alex collier
That is correct.
art bell
Do you know the manner of their...
So how do they come through both time and space to us?
alex collier
Well, if you're still running on gasoline engines and fossil fuel engines, of course you would say that it's impossible.
But if you were to go to ask some of the scientists at Area 51 who have, or those in Denmark and those in Finland who have taken extraterrestrial craft apart, they know for a fact that you can do it.
How they do it is they fold space.
It's very similar to the Pleiadian technology, except the Andromedans specifically used a lot of holographic technology as well.
art bell
Well, I'm well familiar with the concept of folding space.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
art bell
People like Bob Lazar have talked about that on the one side.
People like Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist at New York City University that I've interviewed many times, talks about that.
What they say is that that would, they think, be possible, but would require enormous amounts of power.
alex collier
Well, based on our concept of where energy and power comes from, yes.
We look at technology to create that type of energy.
When, in fact, the Andromedans, like many of the other extratrust races who are far more advanced than we are technologically and spiritually, if you want to use that expression, they use the energy that is available in every single atom, which permeates not only what we call third density, but fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth, and as well as eleventh density.
art bell
Okay.
alex collier
All right?
You know, everybody has this concept that, you know, fourth and fifth density, there's no physicality.
In reality, Art, there is physicality.
art bell
When you're talking about densities, are you talking about dimensions?
alex collier
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
We're saying the same thing, but we use different expressions.
art bell
Okay, I just want to be sure.
Dr. Kaku theorizes 10 or 11 dimensions or more.
alex collier
The Andromedans said that there have been 11, and as of March 23rd, 1994, an energy frequency which contains sound and color and space started permeating from all the black holes on that date in our linear time.
art bell
Wow.
alex collier
And it's adding a holographic imprint which is encompassing not only the 11, but it is adding a 12.
So you use the term a quickening.
art bell
So then the process, the virtual process of creation, and that's what that is, continues.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
It sure does.
Because that's what we do.
That's what all of us do, whether we're on Earth or on other planets, is we create.
That's how we discover who we are.
The problem is, if you don't manage your consciousness, you'll create something you may not be happy with.
art bell
Yeah, well, we may be in this dimension doing that right now.
Creating something that we're not so happy with.
alex collier
This is true, but we've had a lot of help being pushed in that direction.
We really have.
We've been led, literally by the nose, to self-destruction.
And, you know, we're heading in that direction pretty fast.
art bell
We do appear to be at the edge of the abyss.
alex collier
If left to our own demise, we would definitely be heading in that direction.
art bell
All right.
Alex, hold on.
I can see this is going to be a fascinating interview.
We are indeed at the edge of the abyss.
And I've done a number of interviews with publications lately, and they all ask me, is this the end of the world?
And inevitably I tell them, no.
No, no, no, no.
The world is going to go on.
Whether we are going to be part of its continuance is an open question, though.
I suspect there have been others before us, and there will be others that will follow us.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
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Along the coast roads I did ride, with sword and pistol by my side.
Many a young maid lost her maubles to my trade.
Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade.
The masters hung me in the spring of 25.
But I am still alive.
I was a sailor.
I was born upon the tide.
With the sea I did a bite.
I sailed a schooner around the Horn of Mexico.
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You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
art bell
This is one of my all-time favorite songs.
It's about reincarnation.
unidentified
I was a damn builder across the river deep and wide.
art bell
My guest is Alex Collier.
unidentified
We're stealing watered this life.
art bell
He is an Andromedan contactee.
A place called Boulder Home Board.
Not exactly an abductee, but a contactee.
unidentified
Ever since 1964, they buried me in that great city.
art bell
literally hundreds of times.
And one of the first things they showed him on their ship was a sort of a replay of his past lives.
And you know, many people know it.
Originally, of course, in the Bible, there was reincarnation.
But it was voted out by men.
Tonight's program is going to challenge and tick off a lot of people, but that's the way it goes.
I'm asked by a good friend to kind of recap what we have done thus far for the Los Angeles market that joins us at this hour.
That's very difficult to do, but we will attempt to do it.
1964 my guest was contacted in what I don't know as I listen to it it sounds like an abduction he doesn't really regard it that way but he was lying in a field and the next thing he knew this was I'll let him tell it in a minute, then we'll go on from there.
unidentified
I'll let him tell it in a minute.
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You know, there is terrorism out there, so in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, that would create this terror to continue to control us.
I think you're absolutely correct.
But of course, anybody that's followed the process of government throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always speaks more.
And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
It's just a matter of time.
Now we take you back to the night of July 21st, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell
Art Bell All right, Alex Collier has been an extraterrestrial contactee for over 30 years now.
He's been in contact with a human race, underlying human race, from within the constellation of Andromeda, located in our galaxy.
His experience has been both telepathic and physical.
His relationship with the Andromedans has been based on trust and friendship.
Alex's free will has never been violated.
Alex, just very quickly to recap for those who joined us in Los Angeles this hour, you were lying in a field way back in 1964.
alex collier
Up near Woodstock, Michigan.
art bell
Near Woodstock, Michigan.
And the time was about...
And the next thing you knew, it was about 9 o'clock at night.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And your mom was really angry.
alex collier
Well, she was happy in the beginning, and then she was pissed.
art bell
Yeah, okay, so you ended up in a ship lying on a table in an oval room with two beings.
alex collier
Yes.
Morin and Piseus.
art bell
And you had telepathic communication with them.
And they sent you through a life review.
Actually, they let you.
alex collier
I would consider it a soul review.
art bell
In other words, you got to see your past lives.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Where did it end?
alex collier
In other words, it ended in Germany.
art bell
In Germany?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex collier
In what?
art bell
In what time frame?
alex collier
1938.
art bell
Wow.
alex collier
That was the last one I saw.
art bell
So they didn't bring you up right actually through your life and to the moment.
alex collier
No, sir, they didn't.
art bell
How many do you have any idea roughly how many years were spanned in showing you all of this, what happened to your soul during this whole time?
alex collier
Approximately 817 years.
You gotta add them all together, 817 years.
art bell
It's almost amazing to even contemplate.
alex collier
Well, I've got information to share with you that if you think that's hard to contemplate, I've got some things for you.
I have to tell you, I have learned so much that it is just amazing.
There is so much more to us than what we have been told or taught that it is, in my opinion, a crime.
art bell
All right, what I think is let us throw caution to the wind.
There's a lot of Bible thumpers out there.
They're going to want to turn the radio off now so they're not offended because I think I know where we're going.
Question one for you would be, with all of this contact you've had and all of this information you have, why are they here?
unidentified
Excellent question.
alex collier
We've covered the tyranny, okay, the political ramifications of what is happening now in our solar system and 21 others in our galaxy, which in their present time, which is our future, creates tyranny.
Being time travelers, they've come back to find out what happened, and they are now in the process, and they're not the only ones, to manipulate and intervene so that tyranny does not get out of control in their present time.
In that, in coming back here, they have not only discovered things that they did not know or were forgotten, which is probably a better way to say it, that were forgotten, but they've also come to realize that on many of these planets, they have come across a human race that they consider to be genetic royalty.
And I am also including our race in this.
They literally consider us royalty because our sum genetics, the total genetics in all of our races on this planet, are the sum total of 22 different extraterrestrial races.
art bell
I'm glad I gave the warning.
Now, you just said we are the sum total genetically of 22 races.
alex collier
Different races.
Different races.
22 different body types on this planet.
And they say that that is proof of our genetic extraterrestrial heritage.
unidentified
Let me finish.
alex collier
What our scientists call junk DNA is actually the key to our genetic lineage.
Our scientists call it junk because they don't know what it is, where it came from, or why it's there.
They don't realize that we have been genetically manipulated as far back as, what is it, 57,000 years ago was really the, when it really, really started once again, the genetic manipulation of our race by extraterrestrials.
art bell
57,000 years ago.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
art bell
We are designed beings.
It begs a gazillion questions.
Why were we designed?
For what purpose?
alex collier
Great question.
And before I can answer that, I need to lay some ground information, a foundation about this.
Sure.
Okay?
Now, Earth has been visited, colonized, been an outpost on a very consistent basis for the last 22 million years.
All right?
Okay.
In order to truly understand this, and it's taken me a long time to truly grasp it, is because everything I've been taught, I've had to throw away.
Virtually everything.
Okay, now, who was it that came here?
There were extraterrestrials.
Some of them human.
Some of them were not.
Some were reptilian.
There were beings of a plasma type of physical form.
There have been others that were primate, that had a very strong prominence in what we would call primate.
These are extraterrestrial races that have the technology of space travel and have had it.
We are literally babes in the woods as a race.
And I know that a lot of people like to think of ourselves as having, you know, we are very sophisticated.
In 2,000 years, we've gone to the moon.
We are literally babes in the woods.
And we need to take a very humble approach about this because they're here and they're about to show themselves and they're about to let us know, help us remember who we are.
art bell
Well, if we are genetic royalty, Alex, we're doing an awful lot of pedestrian-like things.
alex collier
Well, Art, a lot of that's been programming.
And I don't know if we can cover all of that in this one thing, but I will do the best I can to show you or explain to you what I've been taught, what the Andromedan perspective is about our lineage.
And I will start by saying this.
I have been taught by the Andromedans that prejudice is an extraterrestrial perspective.
It was a behavior we have been taught from the get-go.
And it was done and taught to us to divide us.
Because there was a time where we were united as a planetary race and we rebelled against the extraterrestrial masters.
And I'm referring to Nibiru.
Nabaru is how Warner would pronounce it.
That Sitchin talks about.
art bell
Yes.
alex collier
Okay?
They, I don't know if I can say this on the ear, screwed with us so bad.
art bell
Yeah, you can say that.
alex collier
Okay.
art bell
Do you buy into that now?
alex collier
I question that it's fact.
art bell
No question.
All right.
alex collier
There's no question that it's fact.
art bell
All right I've heard I've been told that we were actually created you say as royalty I've heard by the Anunnaki as slaves to mine gold they took they took Terrans which is how we refer to ourselves human beings that were here Yes.
alex collier
They took them, genetically altered them, manipulated them, and bred them.
We did at one point have primate in us.
We still do.
And this is where we get our extremes of emotions and that's another issue we'll get to.
But they took what they found here and they used it to create what they thought was something more useful to them.
art bell
it involved genetic manipulation and dumbing us down It is history repeating itself like it is now well you know you hear it everywhere scientists seem to agree we only use a very very small portion of our brain and many people suggest that there is an unnatural barrier that has been placed there so that we will not become too bright as a species.
alex collier
That's right.
They're exactly right.
And it is tied to not only consciousness, but also to what our scientists call junk DNA.
What they need to do is they need to re-look at that and try to figure out a sequence to realign what they call junk DNA.
Now, oh, this is such a youth subject, and I didn't think we'd get into this so quickly.
art bell
Well, I just...
alex collier
Hey, it's okay.
you know i i'm here to do it We, human beings, have lived on this planet, Art, for 22 million years.
I want you to know that every person on this planet has a soul.
Well, virtually every person on this planet has a soul.
art bell
Can you define soul?
alex collier
Soul is a consciousness that is an energy source that is interdimensional.
It is a consciousness that exists no matter what physicality it is in.
And it retains memory as well.
This is how we incarnate.
art bell
But does it retain conscious memory?
alex collier
Well, if your DNA, if you incarnate into a race, a physical race that has its total physicality intact, its DNA intact, yes, it does retain memory.
It does.
When you genetically alter the DNA in a physical form, you genetically change the frequency of the body.
Okay?
You genetically change the frequency of the body.
That changes the brain waves and the amount of brain waves and the frequency of a brain wave.
Now, we talked about the speed of light earlier.
art bell
That's right.
Yes.
alex collier
In the Andromedan perspective, the standard and speed of light is under the control of brain energy beyond one's thought frequency.
Your brain waves control the speed of thought, and you see that as light years.
So, according to the Andromedans, the speed of which we think is how we will measure light.
art bell
Fascinating.
The speed at which we think is how we will perceive the speed of light.
alex collier
That is correct.
The speed of light within third density is equal to the thought frequency of the beings on it and in your planet.
Now these are Mornay's exact words.
But on your third density, speeds of your thought transcend the dimension you are in or creating.
Thought travels beyond a speed of a billion light years in other dimensions.
The speed of thought is equated to brain energy when it reaches a certain limit of the speed of light.
The cerebral generator in the brain is there to transform the light speed to light year and thus condenses the light power to the soul.
art bell
Okay, you said contact...
You're saying that contact is now close.
And when I say contact, I mean not just Alex Collier and others, but full-blown here we are contact.
How close are we?
alex collier
They're going to shake the tree.
art bell
How close are we?
alex collier
It's imminent.
According to Morinet, there is supposed to be a massive flyby during the daylight hours across the planet.
He has not told me the day, but it is supposed to be between it's supposed to be this year, between now and the end of the year.
art bell
Now that is exciting.
A massive daytime flyby to announce the presence.
unidentified
Yes.
Alex, let's say that happens.
art bell
What do you think it will produce, knowing what you know about our society and our social structure right now?
What do you think will happen?
alex collier
Well, I think it will create panic.
I think it will create end of the world.
I think many people will think it's the devil and all of this stuff.
art bell
They sure will.
Hold on, Alex.
alex collier
We'll know that.
art bell
We'll be right back, and we will discuss the ramifications of compact.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
And I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
Friday night and the night follow.
Oh, no.
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Tonight's program originally aired July 21st, 1998.
art bell
Alex Collier is my guest by massive requests out there.
Many of you wanted him on.
He is an andromed contactee.
And we're into some really sensitive stuff.
So, I don't know, brace yourself.
If you can't handle it, turn it off.
unidentified
The End Explore your universe with Coast2Coast AM and George Norrie.
First of all, you have to decide, could there be extraterrestrial life out there?
Are we alone in the universe?
Now, the question is, have we been visited in World Weap?
I think so.
And then, you must conclude, not every alien race is a good one.
Some of them are very, very evil.
So if they ever came here, I don't think they could always be good ones.
Not at all.
Now we take you back to the night of July 21st, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell
You're not going to believe this.
earlier in the evening if you hear the first our again you will hear me complaining bitterly about the Russian space project they're gonna put up
Now, the first experiment begins this November, and they will literally take away the nighttime.
There will be no more nighttime.
And I just got the following facts.
Dear Art, as always, your instinct is very accurate.
The SRC Space Regatta Consortium RSC Zemaya 2.5 experiment is partially funded by NASA.
And I've got a contact number here in Russia, and I will pursue this, but can you believe it?
Partially funded by NASA.
It figures.
Alex, welcome back.
Somebody writes a very interesting note here.
If human beings have been on the planet for 22 million years, then this person speculates, Chris, as a matter of fact, in Beaverton, Oregon, I guess, that fossil fuels may not entirely be comprised of what we thought they were.
An ugly thought.
In other words, we think fossil fuels are the dinosaurs.
And maybe in part they are, but if humans have been here for 22 million years, maybe...
alex collier
Yes, sir.
You're...
Hey, I wanted to read something.
I once asked Passais what the definition of what our future was going to be as a race as I started to learn more and more about our history and who they perceive us to be.
And this was his response.
This is supposedly our future.
Responsible freedom of self-determination.
Becoming truly self-confident and free to unconditionally be responsible for oneself without being coerced to accept some higher authority.
This is their definition of what our future as a race is supposed to be.
art bell
All right.
Here's somebody writing from Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Arch, where is Woodstock, Michigan?
I've been here 25 years and I've never heard of Woodstock, Michigan.
Where do I find it on the map?
alex collier
It's in northern Michigan, on the west.
art bell
Northwest side of Michigan?
alex collier
There's a lake, I believe it may be called Lake Woodstock.
unidentified
Okay.
alex collier
Yeah, my grandpa had a cabin up here.
art bell
You understand that people have a difficult time buying this.
I mean, they have all kinds of very deep-seated I don't know if prejudice is the right word.
Prejudice is what they've learned and believe.
And so they revolt listening to something like this.
alex collier
Well, you know, I can totally relate to that.
But you know, Art?
I'm just delivering the message because that's what I agreed to do.
art bell
Oh, I know.
alex collier
And so many things about our history we were told, you know, we would never do.
This never could happen.
This never did happen.
And what happened?
We found out differently.
And, you know, facts do not cease to exist just because people choose to ignore them, whatever they are.
You know, there is life out there, and it is abundant.
And we have been kept in the closet, in the dark, for a very, very long time.
art bell
Have you had opportunities to virtually ask them anything you have wanted?
alex collier
Yes, I have.
art bell
Have you ever asked them about crop circles?
alex collier
Yes, I have.
art bell
And?
alex collier
They said it's fifth-dimensional geometry.
And they are leaving these, the races that lead them.
It is a language that is being left for the Magi.
Now, who are the Magi?
The Magi are the Blue Bloods.
They are what's left over.
Okay, let me back up a little bit.
The Magi are human beings whose bloodline is extraterrestrial.
Now, we'll just take Nibiru.
We'll just start with them since they were the last massive group that were here.
art bell
Right.
alex collier
Okay?
When they left, many of the males, and I believe the Bible even refers to this, the sons of God, admired the females of men, for the daughters of man.
They slept with the Mart.
They left offspring.
art bell
Yes, I know.
alex collier
Okay, but they were considered half-breeds.
They were not allowed to go with their fathers back to the home planet.
art bell
That's why we have the flood, right?
alex collier
That's exactly right.
They tried to wipe out everything, but some survived.
And those that did survive were given technology and a specific bloodline.
Now, they have survived.
You have your blue bloods of Europe.
They always try to marry within the same lineage.
Okay?
There are others that we know nothing about.
Most of our political figures, most of our historical figures, were nothing more than puppets for the Magi.
For these ruling elite who are half extraterrestrial, who have extended lifespans.
Now, let's talk about, and I want to bring up a quote here by Winston Churchill.
After the Brenton Woods Conference, after World War II, he walked out of a meeting and he turned to a friend of his who was a reporter and said, you know, the world is run by very different personages.
And when spoken of, even in private, you only dare do so in a whisper.
Now, he didn't say human beings.
He didn't say man.
He said personages.
And that means personality.
That was a very significant statement.
And it was his way of trying to say he knew that there was a whole nother element of control going on here that nobody else knew about.
And I know this is very difficult for people to understand.
You know, and I'm sorry that you may have a difficult time with this.
I'm not all that happy to have to tell you this.
But this is just the way it is.
It's just the way it is.
Everything, virtually everything we have been taught is not the way it really is.
art bell
The Bible?
alex collier
Oh, boy.
You want to go down that road, huh?
art bell
Well, sure.
I'm not afraid of any roads.
I don't care.
alex collier
Okay.
art bell
Sure.
I mean, look, let us begin at the beginning.
Genesis.
It tells us about creation, supposedly.
alex collier
Yes, it does.
But, you know, understand that, well, the God of the Bible, both in the New Testament and the Old Testament, are extraterrestrials.
End of story.
That's who they are.
They're extraterrestrials.
art bell
So then, the Bible with regard to Genesis particularly the cliff notes version of part of our history.
alex collier
And I know a lot of people have trouble with this.
art bell
I know.
alex collier
You know, and they're going to.
And again, you know, I'm sorry, but that's what I've been told, and I know for a fact that that's true for me.
I know for a fact that it's true.
They were extraterrestrials.
unidentified
So they are our creators.
alex collier
Well, you're talking about the physicality.
You're talking about creating, manipulating, physical form.
art bell
Yes.
alex collier
Okay?
There's a whole other element to us, and that's our multi-dimensional souls.
That they did not create.
And in fact, the Andromedans themselves don't know exactly where the archetype of the original soul actually comes from.
art bell
Aha!
That's what I was going to ask.
Okay, next.
In other words, do they worship a deity, or do they simply puzzle at a creation that precedes them?
alex collier
They puzzle after a creation that precedes them, and they refer to it as the is-ness.
art bell
The what?
unidentified
Is-ness.
alex collier
They call it the is-ness.
In other words, in relating it to me, they refer to it as the is-ness.
We call it God.
There is a force, an energy, a consciousness that literally created the space, which we call our universe, which is multi-dimensional, which according to the Andromedans has over 100 trillion galaxies in it.
art bell
You know, there are many who are going to say that what you are saying is heresy, what you are saying you have been misled.
If you are not lying, then you are dealing with representatives of Satan.
alex collier
There is no Satan, Art.
The Catholic Church made it up.
They even admitted it.
They even admitted to creating the devil.
But nobody wants to listen because everybody is so hooked on fear.
People have become addicted to being afraid of something.
art bell
A vengeful God?
alex collier
Well, that's what the Bible says.
I am a loving and forgiving God, yet I'm a jealous God who would live in an abyss for making a mistake.
art bell
Yeah, I never bought into that part either.
A jealous God who would, if you thought about anything other than him, get angry and toss you into the fiery abyss, yes.
alex collier
But if he was the only one, what would he be afraid of?
I mean, you know, I don't get it.
I never did.
And I know.
I know.
A lot of people are going to have trouble with this, but you know what, Art?
There's a lot of people that don't have trouble with it.
They know that something's wrong.
They've known since they were young.
They just didn't have the pieces of the puzzle.
I have some, and there are going to be others that are going to be following me.
art bell
Alex, my mind is absolutely open to this, and that will get me hung by important parts of my body, you know, and that's fine, too.
My mind is open to this.
I can listen to this as easily as I can listen to the traditional biblical version of how it all occurred, and I can consider it just as easily.
And I suppose that means I'm headed for the fiery abyss.
alex collier
Art, there is no fiery abyss.
art bell
Well, it's good to know.
alex collier
You know, the only hell is the one we create in our head.
art bell
Yeah, or create right here on earth.
alex collier
Right.
For example, here's a quote by Mornay.
Truth within you as a race is silent.
On your world, conditioning is the voice so often spoken.
It is not by thoughts or words that are spoken that reveal to us the soul.
In our perception, it is through man's silence that we come to know him best.
Human beings on your world become blind if they continue to walk as the shadow of their own enlightenment.
art bell
Is there a heaven?
As we understand heaven?
alex collier
Heaven, their perception of heaven is a higher dimensional realm.
art bell
But as we understand, conventionally understand heaven flitting about as angels and whatever we imagine heaven to be, not that heaven.
alex collier
No, no, it's not quite like that.
art bell
So it's kind of like everything we understand or believe to be true, many out there, simply ain't so.
alex collier
It ain't so.
We have been led in a whole nother direction to keep us stuck because there are some races that have a lot of trouble with us evolving to our full potential.
art bell
All right, here's something for you.
alex collier
Okay, because they consider us beasts.
art bell
I understand.
The average person would say, fine.
You've had contact hundreds of times with them.
Surely at some point through all of this, you must have said to them, this message is very difficult to take to humans.
They don't believe it.
What proof can you give me to take to them?
alex collier
Oh, whoever the person is, you have no idea how many times I've had that discussion.
In fact, one of the contactees in South America, who is currently having contact with Morinet, apparently decided that he was no longer going to have contact because he simply could not and would not give out the message because he feared that he would be killed.
art bell
Well, he's got a pretty good point.
alex collier
Yes, he absolutely does.
And I've run that as well.
I've had some security problems myself with me and my family and friends of mine.
art bell
Oh, believe me, I understand.
Present ideas.
Listen, present ideas that threaten people's safe and look out.
You ought to read my mail.
alex collier
I can imagine.
But you know, Art, the bottom line is, and this is my bottom line when I decided to go public and I put it off as long as I could.
How long?
art bell
Wait years.
That's a good question.
alex collier
I put it off 10, 15 years.
art bell
Really?
alex collier
Yes, sir.
Yep.
And I still get reluctant to do it.
I was terrified to do your show, honestly, because I know what this information does to people.
I know it turns their world upside down.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Have you ever...
alex collier
But I look at the world.
I look at what we've been taught.
And is the world heading in a direction that is creating freedom, self involuntary introspection, and unconditional love?
And the answer is no.
It's going completely in the opposite direction.
art bell
Well, now we get to the book I wrote, The Quickening.
I wrote that over two years ago now.
And I'm, in many ways, you know, I have mixed emotions.
I'm gratified that what I wrote seems to be accurate, but it scares the crap out of me.
If You want to know the truth?
I see what I wrote now.
We're right in the middle of it all coming true.
Day by day by day by day, it's happening all around us in every field of human endeavor.
Things are spiraling up and out of control at an exponential rate.
I called it the quickening.
Call it whatever you want.
It's real and it's happening now.
alex collier
We're reaching crisis point.
We absolutely are.
And people are stuck in old belief systems that have not served us, that were created and put into place to control us.
And now we have created sophisticated technology.
And, you know, God bless Philip Corso for coming forward with this little piece of information that he had.
And others like Richard Hoagland and Robert Morning Sky and all of them, you know, they've all contributed.
If you put it all together, Art, you know, including your work, which I've not read, but what I've heard about, they're all pieces of the puzzle and it shows, clearly shows that what we've been taught has been the clip notes version of the truth.
That there is a whole other thing going on here.
There absolutely is.
And it isn't going to wait for us.
It is coming anyway.
Because it's time for us to evolve.
It absolutely is.
art bell
Then I presume you already know when you say it is time for us to evolve, you know what comes next.
alex collier
I know about probabilities.
I know about probabilities.
And that's the only way I'll present it as a probability.
Absolutely.
Nothing is written in stone.
We're creating this.
art bell
Okay.
alex collier
As it goes along.
art bell
I see events, as I mentioned, spiraling out of control.
I take it your view is that you said contact is imminent, contact is close, and that before we fall off into the abyss, there will be intervention on their part.
alex collier
There already has been art.
art bell
Already has been.
All right, Alex, hold it right there.
We'll do a little more and then we'll try and get to some questions and some phone calls for Alex.
I realize a lot of this is going to be regarded by many of you as heresy.
I'm Art Bell from the High Desert.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
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art bell
Well, good morning.
Alex Scollier is disturbing the force this morning.
unidentified
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You know, there is terrorism out there, so in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, that would create this terror to continue to control us.
I think you're absolutely correct.
But of course, anybody that's followed the process of government throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always speaks more.
And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
It's just a matter of time.
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First of all, you have to decide, could there be extraterrestrial life out there?
Are we alone in the universe?
Now, the question is, have we been visited and will we be?
I think so.
And then you must conclude, not every alien race is a good one.
Some of them are very, very evil.
So if they ever came here, I don't think they could always be good ones.
Not at all.
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
Coast to Coast AM All right, I've got an awful lot of people to thank.
art bell
As I do every survey season, I report to you how the program is doing.
And the results are just coming in actually the last two days in the larger markets around the country.
And so I want to report to you, for example, WPHT in Philadelphia.
Our ratings there in several demographic categories have jumped an astonishing, incredible, unbelievable 1,600% for the second time in a row, and we are rapidly aheaded to the top in Philadelphia.
Thank you there.
San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose, Marcatron reports.
In, for example, let me just give you an example.
Adults 25 to 54, a very important category of listening audience.
KSFO in my time slot is number one.
They cleaned KGO's clock.
I mean, we just flat cleaned their clock.
25 to 54.
Rolling through the rest of them quickly, New York City, WABC, we are number one.
Number one.
It's all according to Mark Tron.
unidentified
It's right in front of me, the official reports.
art bell
San Diego.
Cogo, let me give you some numbers.
For example, I don't know how many radio stations are in San Diego.
I'm going to just look at the list here, and I'm going to guess there are 40, maybe?
40?
12 plus, we got a 15.4 share.
The next closest was a 7 share, less than half.
And it goes down from there.
And the rest of the 39 stations share the rest of the audience.
25 to 54, we got a 13.8 share.
Next closest, oh, looks like about a 5.9.
35 plus, a 23 share.
Next closest, 1.3.
Chicago, number one across the board.
Persons 12 plus on WLS in Chicago, 13.9 share.
Prisons 25 to 54, a 15.7 share.
35 plus, a 19.4 share.
And on and on.
Los Angeles, number one in Los Angeles on KABC, absolutely number one.
So in all the big markets that have come across so far, Marcatron is just, I mean, it's been astounding.
So I want to thank you all.
Sincerely, I want to thank you all for having open minds.
And even though you might not agree with what you hear, you obviously crave, as do I, hearing things that are not quite so easily placed in a box.
Because an awful lot of other talk shows are pretty boxy, aren't they?
I just, I can't figure out what creator of talk radio, which is presently the number one format, declared that whatever number of hours you have on the air, you must devote to discussing Monica Lewinsky or the president's sex life or whatever.
So anyway, viva la difference, and thank you all very much.
And once again, here is the man disturbing the force this morning, Alex Collier.
Alex, welcome back.
alex collier
Oh, hey, Art.
I just, I want to say something, you know, to your listeners.
You know, folks, when I first became aware of this information and I was shown the truth of it, I want you to know that I wrestled with it at the deepest parts of myself.
art bell
Oh, I'm sure you did.
alex collier
And the question that I kept asking myself is, Do I protect the lie or do I put ahead of it the future of our race?
Even if two people take this information and it changes their life, it's worth it to me.
You know, I just, I couldn't protect the lie anymore.
art bell
It's a pretty big lie, isn't it?
alex collier
It is.
And it has, we have bought it hook, line, sinker, but in truth, it was all we had.
We weren't given everything else.
It was systematically held from us.
And, you know, I just want to say something else, Art.
You know, folks, if you're really interested and you want to know more, there's information available, not only the book Defending Sacred Ground, but there are videos.
art bell
No, wait a minute.
Don't go rolling over that so quickly.
Defending Sacred Ground is your book?
Yes, sir.
Look, controlling the population was something you wanted to talk about now.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex collier
Yeah, Art.
The models that have been created for controlling the population, as far back as our history records, again, points to Nibiru, Nibaru.
One of the things that they did extensively when our ancestors rebelled because of the tyranny and the persecution they were under was water.
They controlled them with the water.
Because you have to have water.
You absolutely have to have it.
art bell
You absolutely do.
You're correct.
alex collier
Okay, now, where on the planet is 78% of the world's fresh drinking water?
art bell
Fresh water.
alex collier
Fresh water.
Where is it the most accessible right now?
78% of the world's drinking water.
Where is it today?
art bell
In the ground?
alex collier
Nope.
Location.
I'm looking for a location, or I'm sorry.
art bell
Colorado River?
alex collier
It's North America.
art bell
Right, okay.
alex collier
North America.
art bell
I said Colorado River, the Boulder Dam and so forth and so on.
alex collier
Now you have, and I know that you've had, his last name is Kaufman, I can't remember his first name, who talks about the UN biodiversity treaties.
art bell
Oh, yes, uh-huh.
alex collier
Okay.
They are targeting the United States specifically because of the water.
They have to have the water.
art bell
Well, I have been told by people who prophesies and people who see the future that there will be wars fought over water.
alex collier
Yes, sir, there will.
And it's going to be, there's a very high probability it'll be here.
And I know nobody else wants to hear that either.
But there's a very high probability that it's going to be here.
art bell
Well, I've got a water well, and I hope I'm okay.
alex collier
Again, it's a probability.
You know, it's all a probability.
It can all change.
Everything can change if we manage our consciousness, if we manage our government.
art bell
All right.
One of the things that can change, and you're right, everything are, you know, it boils down to probabilities, not absolutes.
alex collier
There are none.
art bell
But you do mention something about discoveries that in all probability, staying with you here, will be made in the next decade, 10 years.
What do you see ahead?
Just immediately ahead?
Ten years.
unidentified
Okay.
alex collier
According to the Andromedans, these are the highest probabilities of things that are going to occur in the next 10 years.
Now, I gave this information in 1994, and some of these things that I'm going to read have come about.
For example, between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability that we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be there.
art bell
What?
alex collier
That our moon will no longer be there.
That the moon is, in fact, an artificial satellite and there are many bases on it.
art bell
Boy, I've heard a lot of people say that.
unidentified
I know.
alex collier
I know.
Two, between 2003 and 2007, benevolent extraterrestrial races are going to be all around us.
We will see them, but they will not interfere.
They want to see how we will interact with each other without being manipulated.
They want to see if we continue the same behavior because they do not want to come down here and compound the problem or ABISEC.
3.
Between 2004 and 2007, all of our DNA coding, which involves racial memory of 22 different races, that our DNA is composed of will unlock.
By 2007, we will have full memory of who we are, where we come from, and what it is that we are here to do.
art bell
So, in other words, what's going to unlock is going to be our own genetic memories that otherwise we would have known about.
unidentified
That's correct.
Fascinating.
alex collier
There's more.
art bell
All right.
alex collier
Between 2007 and 2012, we are supposed to see the birth of a galaxy in Vega, just before we move into Fifth Density.
art bell
In Vega.
alex collier
And we'll get to that.
Between 2007 and 2009, if it is allowed to happen, we are supposed to have a 17-degree pole shift.
Saudi Arabia is to become the new North Pole.
art bell
Well, that'll be different for them.
alex collier
Well, you know, we've had free energy since 1968.
You know, it was created.
EG ⁇ G did reverse engineer the propulsion system from the Roswell craft in 1968.
art bell
Well, I haven't seen any evidence of it yet.
alex collier
They've got it, Art.
They've got it.
art bell
There are so many people who claim, and they have these various workshops and lectures about free energy, and there's an awful lot of talk, but there's I have yet to see even the first over-unity toy sold in a store someplace.
You know, something that produces more energy than is given to it to operate.
And I have yet to see that.
Have you seen one?
alex collier
Have I seen free energy?
art bell
Yeah.
alex collier
Yes, sir, I have.
art bell
How so?
alex collier
Well, the Andromedans, the Pleiadians, they all use it.
They all use it.
You know, what they do is they take hydrogen from atoms, and it burns the hydrogen.
The waste is water.
So they always have a plentiful supply of fresh water, and they burn it.
art bell
Well, I think free energy is kind of a misnomer.
I do believe that technology is going to allow us to tap new forms of energy, which will seem free, but trust me when I tell you, they're going to figure out a way to meter it and charge for it, whatever it is.
alex collier
Well, that's only if we stay in the same psychological paradigm.
If we continue to want to be controlled as a race, then that will manifest itself.
But if it comes to the point where we are absolutely fed up with being controlled and we truly want freedom as a race, then we will find a way and we will create a way to have free energy.
art bell
When you talk about an initial protocol for extraterrestrial contact, what do you mean?
alex collier
Okay, this was something that I was given by Morinet to share with people when and if they have contact.
art bell
Meaning for individuals?
unidentified
Yes, yes.
alex collier
In other words, here's what they taught me and told me to teach other people, which I have done in lectures.
Okay.
It is imperative that when they physically land or they show themselves, it is imperative that you approach them regardless of who they are, what they look like, as an equal.
Because you are a spiritual being first and a physical being second.
art bell
Boy, have I heard a lot of people say that.
You know, those who have had NDEs, those who have done astral travel, inevitably come back and say, we are first spiritual beings.
unidentified
That's right.
alex collier
The intent.
art bell
And I believe that.
alex collier
Then you are to stand, look directly at them, whether you're scared or not.
It is the custom to bow towards them, never taking your eyes off them, and declare to them, it is the manner and custom when entering my space that permission be asked.
And apparently, no matter who they are, we are supposed to address them that way.
By doing it, we are declaring our sovereignty.
art bell
That sounds almost as though we treat them as royalty.
alex collier
That's not how I interpret it at all.
art bell
Well, bowing?
alex collier
They do the same.
art bell
Oh, I see.
alex collier
They do the same.
art bell
So much.
alex collier
Brahmins address me, they always bow at the same time.
art bell
All right, so then much as the Japanese honor each other with a bow on greeting is what you're talking about.
alex collier
That's correct.
Nobody's asking anybody to get on their hands and knees.
art bell
Okay, good.
alex collier
Okay, and do the balika position.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex collier
Okay?
Nobody's asking that.
art bell
I've got you.
alex collier
Okay.
It is imperative that we meet them and approach them as equals and we declare our sovereignty.
art bell
It's hard to greet somebody as an equal who actually, for all intents and purposes, is your creator.
It's going to be very hard for humans to mentally get in tune with that concept.
All right, listen, we're at the bottom of the hour, Alex.
When we come back, I know we don't have it all out.
It's going to take another show or two to get it all out at least.
But when we come back, I would like to go to the phones and we'll get more out that way, all right?
alex collier
All right, sir.
art bell
All right, so if you have questions, and I'm sure you do, because the fax machine is burning up and so are the phones.
We'll be right back with your calls.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
you're listening to art bell somewhere in time tonight featuring a replay of coast-to-coast a.m.
from july twenty first nineteen ninety-eight Oh, baby, don't leave me this way.
I can't accept.
I'll surely miss your tender kiss.
Don't leave me this way.
Baby, my heart is full of love and desire for you.
Now go down and do what you do.
Thank you.
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
art bell
Welcome to the program.
Those of you who join at this hour, anything is possible tonight, anything at all.
Who knows?
But then again, that's kind of the way I like it.
unidentified
Thank you.
Explore your universe with Coast to Coast AM and George Norring.
First of all, you have to decide, could there be extraterrestrial life out there?
Are we alone in the universe?
Now, the question is, have we been visited and will we visit?
I think so.
And then you must conclude, not every alien race is a good one.
Some of them are very, very evil.
So if they ever came here, I don't think they could always be good ones.
Not at all.
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You know, there is terrorism out there, so in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, that would create this terror to continue to control us.
I think you're absolutely correct.
But of course, anybody that's followed the process of government throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always speaks more.
And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
It's just a matter of time.
Now we take you back to the night of July 21st, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell
All right, we're going back to Alex Collier now, and we're about to go to the phones, but I do have a facts here asking Alex, what do you have to say of the numerous accounts of angels appearing, and what about the pyramids?
Now, one at a time, angels.
People talk about guardian angels.
They talk about seeing angels.
To what do you attribute that?
alex collier
You know, there's light all around us, Art.
Dimensional light all around us.
There are times where people, either due to stress or extremes of emotions, actually trigger their pituitary and they are able to see dimensionally.
And there's also a lot of bleed through.
You know, you refer to the quickening.
This frequency change that apparently started to occur on March 23rd of 1994 in our linear time apparently is increasing the frequency of what we call third density.
I'm told that by the year 2013, December 3rd is the highest probability of the year 2013.
Third density as we know it is supposed to implode.
And many of us will be evolving or graduating into a higher dimensional realm.
And this is something that the universe herself is doing.
And it's just happening.
And apparently this is a process that the universe goes through.
art bell
You know, you sound, when you're saying what you're saying right now, you sound a little bit like the Heaven's Gate people.
alex collier
Oh, man.
art bell
Well, you know, graduating to a higher, it does exist.
alex collier
When you die, you go to that place as well.
You go to another dimensional realm, another density, only to come back into physicality.
You do.
art bell
I mean, reincarnation.
alex collier
Yes, Daniel went to that place and he came back and he remembers it.
art bell
I know.
alex collier
It was not Earth.
art bell
All right, the pyramids.
alex collier
The pyramids were built by extraterrestrials from Orion and Cirrus B. The Hebrews did not build it.
Sorry.
They didn't build it.
They didn't build what's underneath it either.
art bell
You have thoroughly disturbed the force.
Let's go to the phones.
alex collier
Wait a minute.
I want to address one more issue.
art bell
Sure.
alex collier
Okay.
When we were talking about the protocol about addressing exocres.
art bell
Oh, that's right.
The individual protocol.
alex collier
You said that it would be a very difficult thing for them to do when they were meeting their creator.
art bell
You bet.
alex collier
Ladies and gentlemen, please hear me when I say this.
You are a spiritual being first.
Okay?
You were alive.
You were conscious.
You were whatever you were in are long before physicality was created.
unidentified
Okay?
alex collier
You are not physicality first.
That's a trap.
You are so much more than that.
And somehow, some way, we have to, all of us as a race, break out of this mold that we're just physical flesh and bones.
I know religions have pounded us with you are sinners and you are this.
I want you to know that the Andromedans have told me that the word sin is a pre-Sumerian word and it meant genetic defect.
It didn't mean evil, dark, bad doing person.
It didn't mean that at all.
It meant genetic defect.
That we are born in sin, born with a genetic defect because our DNA has been manipulated.
I hope that puts some of this into perspective for some of you.
art bell
All right, let's see what the audience has to say.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hello.
How you doing, Art?
art bell
Okay, where are you?
unidentified
Yeah, this is John from Austin, Texas.
art bell
Yes, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, Alex, I'm really enjoying what you're saying.
I'd like to maybe try to converse with you some way through email later on because I am part of a group probably well into the hundreds of thousands where you're just touching on what we believe in.
And I'm about to fall off my chair listening to you and how close you are to what we believe in.
So like I said, I'd like to get with you somehow through email or however and talk with you more.
art bell
All right, well, let's see if we can get you something you can work with then, caller.
Alex, do you have...
alex collier
It is Robinson, R-O-B-I-N-S-O-N-D.
art bell
J-D.
alex collier
Right.
At aol.com.
art bell
Okay, that's Robinson.
J-D at AOL.com.
unidentified
That's right.
art bell
And do you pick up that mail yourself?
alex collier
I have access to it.
Okay, so in other words, it's my publisher.
art bell
It is.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Boy, is your publisher going to be surprised.
Well, in other words, if they send an email, your publisher is going to pass it on to you.
alex collier
Oh, yes, of course.
We talk every day.
art bell
Okay, RobinsonJD at AOL.com.
Very good.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, how are you doing tonight, Alex and Art?
art bell
I'm fine.
alex collier
Hi there.
unidentified
Alex, got a question for you.
art bell
Where are you, sir?
unidentified
Pardon me?
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
Fresno, California.
art bell
K-F-R-E.
unidentified
First of all, how is somebody to believe that you are the chosen one, that out of the millions of people on the face of the earth, that these people are corresponding with you?
art bell
Good question.
alex collier
Okay, well, sir, I don't consider myself chosen.
In fact, I consider it quite a burden, to be perfectly honest with you.
I'm not the only one.
There are other races having extraterrestrial contact with other people.
Example, Billy Meyer.
Another gentleman that Sean David Morton is working with out of Florida, Adrian.
There are many other people who have yet to come forward, who are having contact.
I'm not chosen.
There's nothing special about me at all.
I think I'm just a person who is willing to make certain sacrifices for the betterment of all.
art bell
Well, yeah, but you mentioned another gentleman who also received similar messages who, in effect, refused to pass these messages on.
alex collier
He refused to go public.
art bell
Yeah, exactly.
alex collier
I mean, there's a burden.
There's a risk.
You go through it every day yourself, aren't you?
art bell
Yeah, I know.
Do you feel that it was random, that you were selected just randomly?
alex collier
No, sir.
According to them, when they were here, they had a small colony here 62,000 years ago.
Apparently, that's how my soul got here.
In other words, my soul lineage, part of my reincarnational past has to do with them.
unidentified
So if they were here 62,000 years ago or 52,000 years ago or 2 million years ago, then the evolution of man has been manipulated through all these years?
alex collier
Not all the years, no sir.
unidentified
Well, in other words, if they've been here for longer than we have been here...
art bell
Is that correct, Alex?
alex collier
Yes, sir, it is.
art bell
All right.
And then there was a long period where we were essentially left alone.
alex collier
That is exactly right.
And now they are returning.
unidentified
But evolution happens around us all the time.
alex collier
I'm sorry, what?
unidentified
Evolution happens around us all the time.
alex collier
Yes, sir, but it takes tens and thousands and sometimes millions of years.
It's left to its own.
For example, you look at the fossil record of our planet.
These are pretty clear.
There is no evolvement of certain animals.
They suddenly appear in the fossil record fully formed.
How did that happen?
art bell
It's true.
alex collier
How did that happen?
unidentified
That is true.
alex collier
Ask yourself that.
unidentified
But on the other hand, you can take a, for example, a brook trout and raise three generations in complete darkness and they soon begin to lose their eyes.
alex collier
That's correct.
art bell
And so would we, I would imagine, if our sun went away and we somehow survived it without light.
Though it doesn't seem it's going that way with the Russians right now.
unidentified
No, they're going to blind us all.
art bell
I would imagine that our eyes would begin to go away as well.
unidentified
Correct.
alex collier
Sir, I know you got a bazillion questions, and, you know, I still have a lot of questions.
I don't have all the answers.
I'm just sharing what I do have.
We've not covered a tenth of the information that I've been given.
And we're doing the best we can.
I'm doing the best I can.
You know, you can go to the website.
There's plenty of information there.
Or you can just choose to ignore it.
It's whatever you want.
unidentified
Oh, I didn't just deliver in the message.
One more quick question is.
alex collier
Sure.
unidentified
Do you have regular conversation or meetings?
I mean, is this an ongoing thing?
art bell
Okay, that's a good question.
In other words, in your ongoing communication, whether it's frequent or not frequent, what is the manner of the contact now?
alex collier
They're generally telepathic and physical.
They're both.
And all the updates always go on the website, usually within 48 hours after me getting the information.
art bell
Okay.
alex collier
So yes, they're ongoing, but sir, there's no pattern.
art bell
All right.
We've got a link to that website, so if you've got a computer, get up there and take a look.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
How you doing, Art?
art bell
I'm fine.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Nashville, Tennessee.
My name is Sean.
I'm listening to 99.7 WTM.
That's where to do it.
How you doing, Alex?
alex collier
I'm doing well, Sean.
unidentified
How are you?
Pretty good.
My question is, in the Bible, there's some apostles that saw a man that was born named Jesus, and he did some wondrous things.
And I was wondering how you felt or if they've told you anything about him.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
There was a man by the name of Jesus, whose last name was Meletheal, who lived at that time.
It is their opinion, their perspective, that the Jesus of the New Testament is a composite character.
art bell
A composite character.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
Can you break that one down for me?
What do you mean by a composite character?
alex collier
When the church fathers, the Roman Catholic Church fathers put the books together and created a God, a Savior, they took bits and pieces of other lives and compiled it into one person, one deity.
unidentified
Okay, why would there be so many apostles explaining the same thing even after he died?
alex collier
Well, brother, I, you know, the New Testament has always been controversial.
And, you know, I'll be perfectly honest with you, that's an area I don't even want to go.
I don't even want to go there.
Because that'll get me in a whole lot of trouble.
I don't even want to go there.
art bell
Ah, what's trouble?
alex collier
Okay?
You know, there is a creation, a God, whatever you want to call it.
It is not what we, the Andromedan perspective is, it is not what we have been taught at all.
And it is good to become Christ-like, to be a person of full responsibility, of compassion, of humility, and one who cherishes and craves freedom.
However, they really feel that to give our power away and to worship someone who isn't going to save us is a very, very bad idea.
In fact, it's a trap.
Because by doing that, we are not taking responsibility for not only our own lives, but what we think and for the world around us.
That's their opinion.
art bell
All right, Collier?
unidentified
Yeah, thank you.
art bell
All right, thank you very much.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
In Salt Lake, KNRS 570.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Did the Andronomans talk about other star nations in an organization called the Galactic Federation?
alex collier
Sir, there are many different councils.
I know primarily of the group that they are affiliated with, which is called the Andromedan Council, and it's not because they run it or they head it, it's because that's where they meet, because it is centrally located with the star systems in that particular part of our galaxy.
I've heard a lot about the Galactic Confederation, and usually when I hear it, it's almost always associated with beings from Cirrus B. And, you know, I've never pulled any punches in all of my lectures about what I've been told about Cirus B. And what I've been told about Cirus B is that they're not to be trusted.
They have been definitely part of the problem holding us back all this time.
unidentified
Okay.
alex collier
All right.
unidentified
Now, could these Andronomans be asked to meet with Sartbell?
alex collier
I suppose so.
I can always ask.
And then we have to create the space if they say yes.
art bell
Interesting question.
Indeed, interesting question.
And I'm not sure how I would handle it.
You know, I talk about these things and I intellectualize them, but I'm not sure how I would handle it.
alex collier
Well, it would change your perspective.
art bell
Yeah, I'm sure it would.
I'm sure it would.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
art bell
How many people do you think are contacted?
alex collier
Probably on the planet, there's 28 by different races.
art bell
Oh, so you don't think you know?
alex collier
Yeah, I always ask.
There's 28 people right now on the planet being contacted by extraterrestrial races.
And it's increasing.
art bell
And you're, again, so that everybody knows, you feel that a mass sighting, a mass contact, is going to occur before this year is out?
alex collier
Yes, sir.
They're going to make their presence known.
art bell
All right.
alex collier
And the denial.
art bell
Alex, I'll give you a choice now.
I have one hour left, and you're welcome to stay if you wish.
Or you can go to sleep.
Your choice.
alex collier
All right, I'll stay.
art bell
You'll stay.
All right, Sean.
alex collier
I'll stay.
But I want to read some of their words.
art bell
All right.
Well, I'd be happy to have you do that.
alex collier
We can speak that in somewhere.
art bell
We'll do it in the next hour.
Stay right where you are.
unidentified
This is Coast to Coast A.M. You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
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You found someone.
And don't admit my brown eyes blue.
I'll be fine when you go.
I will cry all night long Say it is all you I don't wanna take my body.
Tell me no season, tell me somebody.
Give me no reason to give me out of tell me now.
And only...
Thank you.
I don't feel asking, this is all I'm looking wrong.
I don't feel asking, this is all I'm looking for.
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Don't say that you love me.
Don't tell me that you love me.
Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired July 21st, 1998.
art bell
James James.
I did have a James call you on, but this is not James.
It's Alex, and he'll be right back.
unidentified
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Now we take you back to the night of July 21st, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Art Bell, Somewhere in Time Okay, back now to my guest, Alex Collier.
art bell
And Alex, you wanted to read something.
I've got a lot of people who want to talk to you, and we've been short on phones here, so we've got to get there.
But go right ahead.
alex collier
All right, sir.
I wanted to read something that Warren A. had said to me, and this is what it is.
That what is and what is desired must be identical if one is to be happy.
It is also necessary for a man to continue his self-examination to observe what he is and what he is becoming.
This is freedom.
When you can be totally objective with yourself, in whatever direction your total experience leads, you are free from the restrictions of a predetermined truth.
To be free is to be centered and have the ability to recover your balance even in the midst of action.
A free man knows where he stands and what he stands for.
This is a free man and a leader.
A free man's mind and his state of consciousness create a climate of openness in his life which gives him not only stability but flexibility and endurance.
art bell
All right, excellent.
That sage wisdom wherever it came from was Mornay.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hi.
alex collier
Hi.
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm calling from Paradise, California.
My name is Cynthia.
art bell
Paradise, huh?
unidentified
Paradise, California.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And I have a question for you, Alex.
I'm wondering, if I heard you correctly, you said that there were going to be 28, or there are currently being 28 people who are being contacted?
alex collier
Yes, ma'am, by many different races.
unidentified
Okay.
How does one know when they're being contacted?
alex collier
I can't speak for the others.
But my understanding is that they're physical.
unidentified
Okay.
alex collier
They're direct face-to-face.
unidentified
Well, the reason I'm asking is because I've been receiving a lot of information, which I consider telepathic, that someone told me I should be writing down.
I haven't gotten around to it yet, but a lot of the information that you are talking about is information that I have been receiving myself.
And I've been being guided towards different information already put out in books.
Zacharias Fitchin's The Twelfth Planet is one of those books that I've read many years ago, and I'm wondering if that information, in your opinion, is along the same lines as what you're speaking about when you talk about the genetic manipulation of the races.
And it goes into a lot of the, oh, the hieroglyphs that this, I don't know if this person deciphered that or if he knows of other people that had deciphered that information.
But have you heard of that book?
And do you know of Zachariah Sitchin?
alex collier
Yes, ma'am, I do.
And Mr. Sitchin has done a great job putting the pieces together that he has.
But there are other pieces that are going to be found underneath the pyramid and also in Tibet and apparently also in India.
There are more records that are going to put the rest of the piece of the puzzle together.
The work that Zachariah Sitchin has put together, Cynthia, is just the tip of the iceberg.
unidentified
Okay, that's what I thought.
I thought you were going to get away from that.
alex collier
You ought to sit down and write this down.
Whatever you're getting, you Ought to write down.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I was told by a psychic.
I should be writing down a lot of this information.
And I had a feeling it was just an ins of the truth.
And what I'm finding is there's a lot of ins of the truth out there, and it's just a matter of putting the big puzzle together.
alex collier
It's our time.
Definitely our time as a race to put the pieces together.
unidentified
Yeah, definitely.
Okay, I appreciate the information.
alex collier
Thank you.
art bell
Thank you very much for the call and take care.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, this is Brad in San Francisco.
art bell
Hi, Brad.
unidentified
How's it going tonight?
art bell
Very well, thank you.
unidentified
Yeah, it is going well.
I just wanted to ask Alex a couple questions.
First, thank you, Alex, for having the courage to go public with this.
alex collier
Or is No Sense?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex collier
One or the other.
unidentified
I was wondering, do the Andromedans offer any advice on spiritual practices, how to get more in tune with the higher consciousness?
alex collier
Yes, sir, they do, and a lot of that is on the website if you can go to it or it's in the tapes and the books.
I discuss it in detail.
One of the most important things is to remember that peace of mind is internal work.
It's not external work.
And the piece that I just read about a free man, you know, voluntary introspection is key to creating a healed planet.
God, you know, that is not, there's no simple answer to that.
It's a huge thing and it's probably a whole other show in itself.
But the information is on the internet.
It's there if you want it.
And I would encourage you to go get it, download it, and do whatever you want with it, sir.
unidentified
Can you give your website out again?
alex collier
It's www.truefacts, T-R-U-F-A-X.org backward slash Collier, C-O-L-L-I-E-R, backward slash and drom, A-N-D-R-O-M, the numerical number two.
And it'll get you there.
art bell
All right.
And if you didn't get all that, I thought we had a link up.
We didn't.
We do now.
So if you'll go up to my site, you can just click on Alex's name and go right over there.
unidentified
Great.
art bell
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And we've got to do something about these long internet addresses, Alex.
They're horrible.
alex collier
They're only going to get worse.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hi.
Good morning.
art bell
Good morning.
Where are you?
unidentified
My name is Bob, and I'm calling from West Memphis, listening to you on WREC 600 a.m.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I've got two quick comments and then a quick question.
First of all, Hart, I absolutely am thoroughly impressed with my San Gene ATS 909.
art bell
Of course.
unidentified
Of course.
art bell
How could anybody not be?
What a radio.
unidentified
Oh, yes, it is.
And it goes with me everywhere.
And the other comment I have is, woohoo, it's about time this has happened.
I am completely getting sick of being lied to.
I'm tired of this suppression and denial.
I'm tired of it.
It's getting old.
And I see, you know, I know a lot of other people that feel the same way that I do.
And I hope I speak for a lot of other people out there that I don't know.
I'm sick of it.
And it's got to end.
Because I do not want to see, I don't want to see nothing bad happen.
You see what I'm saying?
And my question is for your guest, have they taken into consideration that when they make their presence known, will they be ready to deal with, let's say, either our government or some other government that decides to do something stupid, you know, when the flyovers are happening?
alex collier
Sir, let me tell you something.
They are 10,000 years technologically more advanced.
There's nothing we can do to hurt them.
unidentified
That's what they're saying.
alex collier
The purpose for doing this is to expose the fact that all the governments have been lying.
That's the purpose, is to expose them so that the people will finally see what has really been going on.
Because the governments will panic.
They will totally panic.
And that's exactly what it is.
They're forcing the issue.
unidentified
And I've realized that some people would panic, and I'm glad that they, you know, it just, I'm sorry.
I just don't want to see nothing stupid happen.
alex collier
Well, we'll do stupid things every day, but hopefully we'll evolve quickly.
unidentified
Okay, well, that's good.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate getting on.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much for the call and take care.
West of the Rockies, you're Amir with Alex Collier.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hi, Alex.
How are you?
alex collier
I'm fine.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Thank you.
This is Debbie.
I'm calling from Puyallup, Washington.
All right.
And I do have to agree with that last caller.
There is something about the information you're giving us that causes a person to feel like they can breathe easy, like something's been lifted off of us.
So it's fascinating to hear this.
On the other hand, I'm torn by the dichotomy of feeling that all of this is right.
The wisdom that you're quoting, the genetic and the evolutionary explanations.
The man that called up about the trout and if you kept them for a certain number of generations they'd be blind.
That's evolution by intervention.
So his example didn't really make any sense because he was only backing up what you were saying.
But if I choose to feel like a lot of things have been lifted off of me and that this is right, that this feels right, that means that I also, this is the dichotomy, I also then actually really have to believe in extraterrestrials.
And I think that that's what a lot of people are going to have problems with is that if they want to believe all these things that feel right and feel true, then they have to actually give in, let go of the fact that they've not quite believed.
And they're going to have to start believing, yes, there are.
And I guess that the flyover will settle that for everybody.
So my question is, you said this was going to be a daylight flyover.
Is it going to be over major cities?
Is It going to be?
You know, how extensively worldwide is it going to be?
art bell
Good question.
alex collier
My understanding is, and I don't have all the details, my understanding is that everybody in the world will know at the same time that there's life out there.
art bell
That'll be some flyover.
alex collier
Okay, and you know what?
Lister, are you still on?
unidentified
No, she's not.
alex collier
Okay, I just want to say this.
To me, the real issue is not whether or not there's ETs.
I'll tell you what the real issue is that I see it, is that everybody is going to realize that we're not alone and that there is more to us than we possibly could have imagined.
And, you know, we have a very bad self-esteem issue as a race.
And that, to me, is the issue we're going to need to resolve because in that issue involves betrayal.
And to me, the betrayal is going to be the hardest thing for all of us to overcome because we're going to want to lash out.
And, you know, that energy is not going to serve anybody.
You know, once we really put all the pieces together, we're going to want to lash out at somebody for misleading us and lying to us.
And I hope that is something that we handle with advanced maturity.
art bell
I hope so, too.
All right.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
This is Ben in Las Vegas.
art bell
Yes, Ben.
unidentified
I have a question for you, Alex.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
unidentified
You're talking about the flyover coming sometime this year.
alex collier
That's what I was told.
unidentified
Okay.
What about the Andromedans or anyone else coming down to meet us?
When is that going to take place?
alex collier
I don't know, sir.
I don't know.
unidentified
This will not take place during the flyover.
alex collier
My understanding is no.
unidentified
Okay, because something you said, it sounds as though that were many, many years ahead.
art bell
Well, I guess you cannot get answers to questions that he just doesn't know the answers to, Caller.
But a flyover.
alex collier
And if I knew, I'd tell you.
unidentified
I'm sure you will.
alex collier
That's why they don't tell me everything, because they know I'll tell everybody.
Okay.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
art bell
All right.
Thank you for the call.
Wild Hardline, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
This is Annie.
I'm calling from Northern California, and I've got you on KFRE.
art bell
Yes, Annie.
unidentified
And of course, I also get you on KGA, KEX, and KOH.
art bell
Good.
unidentified
We're cool here.
art bell
One way or the other.
unidentified
Right.
But my question for Alex is, have the Andromedans given you any specific information what individuals can do to develop to their full potential?
alex collier
Yes, ma'am.
A lot of that is on the website and contained in the books and the tapes already.
It's not a one-minute answer.
But the first and foremost thing is understand this, that your intent for whatever it is, whatever your desire is and the intent that you have to create it is the single most powerful sovereign tool we all have.
If you clearly state your intention, you will make it happen.
It will somehow happen for you.
You just have to want it.
And what I've had to learn, and this was one of the toughest lessons for me to learn, is the responsibility that comes with knowing this knowledge because, you know, it is so hard for me to do all the day-to-day stuff.
I get so burned out because it's such a gain, but I have to do it in order to support, you know, my family and myself.
It'll definitely change your perspective of the world.
And, you know, something else that I had to learn the hard way was that I was having a contact in Lake Arrowhead, and I did not want to come back.
I absolutely did not want to come back here.
I wanted a whole nother reality.
Nothing was working for me at the time in my life here.
And I was already in another reality, and I didn't want to come back.
And Visaeus said, I had to come back.
They made me come back because I wasn't finished with my evolvement here.
So as I'm on the ground and they're leaving, I'm crying and I'm like, you're abandoning me.
And I heard Visaeus in my head said, Alex, look at me.
And I turned around and as the craft was leaving, he said, Alex, the love that you withhold is the pain that you carry lifetime after lifetime.
And there's not a day that goes by that I don't think about that because I try very hard not to make decisions where I withhold love, that I consciously do that.
And that's been my most difficult lesson.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Yeah, indeed, thank you.
You know, as I listen to you, Alex, I'm not firmly sure what to believe because I haven't had the contacts you've had.
And that's going to be true of a lot of people.
They're not going to just automatically embrace what you say.
But the other side of this coin is I am coming, as I listen to you, to believe absolutely that you believe what you're saying.
That's one important step.
It's not final step, but it's one very important step.
I don't think you're sitting here feeding us a bunch of what you know to be lies.
I think you're telling us what you think to be the truth.
alex collier
Yes, sir.
Otherwise, why bother?
You know, I mean, why bother.
art bell
Well, there could be a lot of motivations.
People could imagine motivations.
People could imagine selling books, making income motivation.
alex collier
It's only cost us money, Art.
It's only cost us money.
You know, I hear what you're saying, and thank you.
But, you know, I'm not attached to it.
I just I put it out because that's what I promised to do.
And whatever anybody wants to do with the information, that's fine.
You know, um it's not that I don't care, but I'm not attached to it.
I can't be.
You know, I just I can't be because everybody has their own path.
And, you know, I don't have all the answers.
I'm not some some guru, and I don't follow a guru.
You know, I'm just trying to put all the pieces together like everybody else because none of this has made sense.
art bell
I understand.
East of the Rockies, you're on here with Alex Collier.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
Hello, Alex.
art bell
Hi, sir.
unidentified
I was born with six fingers on each hand.
art bell
Oh, I think I've talked to you before.
Where are you?
unidentified
I am in Otoka, Oklahoma.
alex collier
Uh-huh.
art bell
Six fingers on each hand.
There are humans that are not extraterrestrial in origin that have six fingers.
unidentified
Certainly there may be.
However, I am a hybrid.
I am indeed the true Messiah.
I am indeed the Antichrist.
Now, I know, you've said all this before.
alex collier
Well, you know what?
You're in the same boat all of us are, whether you are or not.
unidentified
We are all in the same boat, and unless and until we all stand with one voice, face the full truth, and do what we must do, total extinction is coming to this earth.
With the exception of 88,888 chosen ones that will be taken.
art bell
All right, on that note, we're going to have to leave you both, and we'll be right back.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell.
Stay right there.
Or, put another way, don't touch that dial.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
If you love her, then you must send her somewhere where she's never been before.
More now praises and learning gazes won't get you where you want to go.
Words of love soft and tender won't wither.
You ought to know by now.
Words of love soft and tender won't wither.
You ought to know by now.
You ought to know by now.
I'm your host, Chris.
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You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from July 21st, 1998.
art bell
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This is Coast to Coast AM.
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You know, there is terrorism out there, so in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, that would create this terror to continue to control us.
I think you're absolutely correct.
But of course, anybody that's followed the process of government throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always seeks more.
And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
It's just a matter of time.
Now we take you back to the night of July 21st, 1998, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Art Bell, Somewhere in Time All right, back now to Alex Collier.
art bell
And I know, Alex, we have not had an opportunity to get out even a substantial portion of the information that you would want to get out.
You just do the best you can with the time you're given.
But we'll have another opportunity one day to do another program.
alex collier
All right, sir.
art bell
All right.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
My name, I already told you, Mr. Bell, it's Josh from St. Charles.
Mr. Collier, have you, first of all, I would like to know if you've heard if they've even talked about me, for example, because I have I'm not sure either I'm getting the information from aliens or it's always been there, which I figured out things that I don't even understand.
Fair, Mr. Bell?
art bell
Anything you want.
alex collier
Josh, I think the best person to answer that question would be you.
I don't know anything about you, sir.
unidentified
Well, it's right.
alex collier
You know, I can say is I would just say to you is continue to cultivate your own intuition.
It's American.
Most men do not trust it.
unidentified
Well, the problem is, is I'm having a hard time because I figured out this stuff way.
I am only 20 years old, and I know things that scientists have studied.
I don't know where it's come from, but I've known things that scientists take years on end of study, and I don't even, I haven't even read the information in books.
I just figure it out.
And it's I it's real tough because it's like you say they before that they're looking for intelligent life.
Well if my message is from aliens, then I could be the intelligent life they're searching for.
alex collier
Okay.
Well, Josh, I would say this to you.
Ancestry brings you a man's body, but it doesn't bring genius.
The soul does.
And, you know, I would encourage you to continue to work on yourself and to find your place.
I definitely hear your frustration, and I can absolutely empathize with it.
You know, but why don't you take it out of your head, put it on paper, or try teaching what you know to others and create, you know, some leaders.
Because that's what we need.
We need leaders in our race today.
art bell
We sure do.
alex collier
You know, we need them desperately.
We need everybody to be their own hero.
art bell
All right.
Wildcard line, you're on there with Alex Collier.
Hi.
unidentified
Oh, hello, Alex.
I was wondering if you're familiar with the paper, The Contact, published by Commander, I think it's Georgius Hat Tolin, who claims to be a Pleiadian.
alex collier
Who?
unidentified
Hat Tolin.
Is it a magazine called The Contact?
alex collier
No, I don't know it.
unidentified
Oh.
Well, it sounds sort of similar to what you're saying.
And were you saying that are there groups that are suppressing this information on earth?
alex collier
Yeah, yeah, I have said that.
unidentified
Oh, what groups are they?
alex collier
Oh, God, they're many.
They're many from governments and those even below.
The Church, the Catholic Church has suppressed this type of information for a thousand years.
Oh, we would systematically have been trying to hide this.
Even some archaeologists are guilty of finding specific remnants and archaeological discoveries which have been covered up because they didn't want to rock the boat or rock the established crow.
They have invested all this time in teaching us one thing and many times they don't want to have the courage to say, hey, we were wrong.
It's really this.
unidentified
Does it have to do with like man only uses about what, 10% of his brain capacity or something like that?
alex collier
That's what they say.
unidentified
Oh.
And then.
art bell
Some of us, obviously, 9, 8, even 7%.
Yeah.
unidentified
But your teachings, will they teach us how to use the other, what, 90%?
alex collier
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm not using my 90%.
So, I don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
Anyway, well, thank you.
You're very interesting.
art bell
Yes, indeed.
He is, isn't he?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
Hi.
Hey, Alex.
This is Frenchie in Massachusetts.
Yes, sir.
I'm listening to you on the telephone because the radio is going off the air.
Right, well, it's getting a little late on the East Coast.
What's up, Frenchie?
So an adjective, a word that shows action.
If you could leave me on the phone for a while, I could.
No, I can't do that, but you can hear Alex's answer?
That I can do.
Go ahead and ask your question.
Okay.
My question is.
I was born in 1948 in August.
And for the longest time, when I was around 18 years old, I used to think a lot about a king, being a king.
And then I started to learn a little bit about reincarnation.
And I kind of put the two of those things together and I said, no, I can't be, you know.
And Alex, when you started talking about some of the things about reincarnation and how far back you can go, it brought it back for some reason.
All right, Frenchie, stop and listen.
The one problem that I've had with a lot of people who follow reincarnation, apparently like Frenchie, is that everybody exposed to their prior lives turns out to have been royalty or kings, or it seems like you rarely talk to people who were common folk, you know, the way most of us are now and that should be the most common remembrance.
alex collier
Yeah, there's been a lot more Indians than there have chiefs.
unidentified
That's right.
alex collier
There really have been.
But to answer your question, Frenchy, everybody has cellular memory and any kind of an experience can trigger it.
Your subconscious could bring it forth and people think it's just a daydream.
There's a lot more to it.
No one really understands here on earth how our mind really works.
And the mind records information holographically.
That's the way it works.
So try to think in a holographic way.
In other words, when you see yourself in that position, move yourself around that vision.
In other words, just don't see it three-dimensionally.
Experience it fourth-dimensionally, fifth-dimensionally.
Smell it, taste it.
You know, imagine yourself doing all of that, and maybe it'll help trigger more.
art bell
Sure, my complaint is you rarely hear somebody call and say, hey, Art, you know, every time I go to a fast food place and somebody says, would you like fries with that, I flash to a prior life.
You never hear that.
alex collier
No.
art bell
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, Art.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Rich in Alaska.
I was an amoeba.
I must have been an amoeba in a prior life because I don't remember it.
art bell
Where are you in Alaska?
unidentified
Kodiak.
art bell
Kodiak, Alaska.
Kodiak Island.
All right.
unidentified
Anyhow, I'd like to suggest a new twist for Alex.
And please, I hope none of your listeners are offended, or either of you two.
You keep making suggestions towards the Catholic Church, Alex, and you obviously see it with the obvious authority that the Church does have.
And you made mention of the New Testament earlier.
How far have you researched the New Testament, or even the whole Bible, in fact?
alex collier
Extensively.
I was born and raised a Catholic.
unidentified
Okay, good.
Now, have you ever tried to prove it wrong?
alex collier
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Have you succeeded?
alex collier
I believe so.
art bell
In what way?
unidentified
Well, my friend, what's that?
art bell
I said in what way?
I asked in what way?
alex collier
Through historical references.
Such as the Old Testament is historically accurate.
The New Testament, however, is not.
And, you know, that's a debate I don't even want to get into.
You know, because it's a very sensitive subject, and I'm not here to, you know, I'm not here to condemn anybody's belief in anything.
The question was asked.
art bell
So hold on, everybody, hold on.
In a way, you're here to challenge it, though.
In other words, challenge it.
alex collier
Yes, I am.
I definitely am.
But, you know, I would be more comfortable dealing with that in another show.
unidentified
Okay.
alex collier
Okay.
We can definitely address it.
You know, it may make it very sensitive area.
art bell
All right.
Well, I'm not scared of sensitive areas.
So, yeah, sure.
We'll do another show.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
Hi.
unidentified
Yes.
My name is Steve.
I'm in San Marcos.
art bell
Okay, Steve, you're going to have to yell at us.
You're not too strong.
unidentified
Okay.
I had a couple questions for him.
And first question is, I guess, the pyramids on Mars and Bigfoot, do they have any tie to all this?
alex collier
Well, I don't know much about Bigfoot.
To be perfectly honest with you, that's not a subject or an area that I've ever really gone into with more names to say as I know.
Pyramids on Mars, yes, they do exist.
There are some at the southern pole as well.
There are many strewed across the planet.
And I have been told primarily that the pyramids were not temples, but what they were is when there was a war in our solar system going back 496,000 years ago.
And it did quite a bit of damage to the solar system.
And I was told that the pyramids, which exist on most of the planets in our solar system and others, are used as weights.
And what they do is they put them at the center of the landmass because it will balance out the rotation of the planet so they do not wobble.
And they did this for not only colonization, but also for mining to create stability on the planet while they were doing their works on them.
unidentified
Hmm.
Interesting.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Yeah, one last thing.
I don't know if this is really important.
Some years ago, I guess between the ages of four to seven, you were talking about possibly previous slides.
I don't know if I believe in this at all.
But anything's possible.
I used to have a dream that I was a native and I had a family and everything, and I lived in Cuba.
Now, whether that's true or not, I don't know, but I stopped having the dreams after I was about seven years old.
And I wasn't a king or a rich person or anything.
alex collier
All right, well, thank you for sharing that.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right, thank you very much, and take care.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Alex Collier.
Hi.
unidentified
Yes, hello, Art.
This is Michael in Philadelphia.
art bell
Hi, Michael.
unidentified
Yes, good morning, Alex.
alex collier
Good morning, Mike.
unidentified
Yes, I have a couple questions, and I'm going to hang up.
Alex, what do you think of The Illuminati, and what do you think of the future dangers of Earth?
I mean, nuclear war and biological warfare.
And I'll hang up for the answer.
Thank you.
art bell
Alright, the Illuminati first.
Do you know anything about them?
alex collier
Yeah, they're the puppets.
They're the puppets.
art bell
Most people say they're controllers.
They're the puppets.
alex collier
They're the puppets.
art bell
Good to hear it.
alex collier
Yeah, they're the puppets.
And as far as nuclear war and biological, they're always a probability.
And they could be used to extinguish some of the population and also as a distraction.
I think it was Roosevelt who said, nothing in politics ever happens by accident.
And there's a lot of truth to that.
But if we could figure out how to manage our governments again, none of this would happen.
art bell
Well, I have at least temporarily given up on politics.
I remember the Who?
They had a song called Won't Get Fooled Again.
New boss, same as the old boss.
I've come to the point where I've realized that they campaign and sound different and govern exactly the same way.
alex collier
You know, Art, I'm reminded of a story of a young man who took his baby young son to a cemetery, and they're looking through it, and they look at some of the old tombstones.
And there's one in the last row that's a little different.
And the little boy says, Daddy, can you read this to me?
And the father reads it, here lies Jim Johnston, 1836 to 1899.
Little boy says, well, Daddy, what does it say down there at the bottom?
So the father brushes the dead grass away and says, here lies a politician and an honest man.
And the little boy says, well, Daddy, what does that mean?
And the father said, it means there's two bodies in this one grave.
art bell
Pretty good.
East of the Rockies, you're on there with Alex Collier.
Hello.
unidentified
Good morning, gentlemen.
How are you doing?
art bell
Fine.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in St. Louis, Missouri.
art bell
St. Louis?
All right.
unidentified
My name is Scott.
art bell
That would be KTRS.
unidentified
Exactly.
The Big 550.
Yes, sir.
Alex, how does music tie in with everything that you're talking about?
I personally feel that music is the most powerful medium that love can express outside of, as far as like a, on a wide level.
art bell
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I don't know if it ties in either, but music is a very powerful force with love, as he says.
unidentified
Yes, and I know Art is a big music fan.
Oh, I am.
I don't know if you ever got that package that I sent to you.
It was the Super Conscious Disc?
art bell
I think I did.
unidentified
Lime green?
art bell
That sounds familiar.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, if you want to give that a spend some time, you might find it interesting.
It talks a lot about your show and what goes on and everything.
But anyway, I just wanted to ask Alex what his slant on music and everything he's talking about.
alex collier
Okay, well, I love music.
You know, the Andromedan perspective is that our entire universe, and that includes all the dimensions and all the galaxies that we see and even those we don't see, is a holograph.
And the holograph consists of sound, color, light, and intent.
And I don't know if you've ever seen these, but NASA put out a series of recordings from the Voyager as it was traveling through space, and it digitally recorded the noise that it was picking up.
And when the computer enhanced it, it literally is music.
It sounds like Tibetan bulls, winds, waves, birds, dolphins.
It's absolutely incredible information.
And it was put out by a company called Delta Music out of Los Angeles.
It was called Symphony of the Planets.
And it is absolutely remarkable.
And I mean, that's us, you know?
I mean, that's the space we live in.
It's continuously making music.
It's charged electromagnetic particles, and it's just phenomenal.
art bell
All right.
Well, this song this morning is about over.
We're out of time.
alex collier
Art, thank you very, very much.
art bell
Oh, thank you, Alex.
It was obviously a good recommendation so many people made to me that I have you on the air.
And we will have you back again, and we will do that other thing.
alex collier
Okay, sir.
art bell
All right.
alex collier
Thank you very, very much.
art bell
Good night.
That's it, folks.
We are out of time, or is that both of time?
Either way, it's gone.
Now, Thursday night, I just booked Albert Taylor, Soul Traveler, because of what happened to me in Paris.
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