Robert O’Dean, a former U.S. Army intelligence officer with COSMIC top-secret clearance under NATO’s SHAPE, reveals 1964 observations of extraterrestrial activity near Germany, including autopsy photos of 12 small beings from a crashed UFO. He details a 1981 incident where a UFO disabled a Minuteman ICBM in North Dakota, melting its warhead, and a 1976 Iranian F-4 encounter with unexplained power loss. Dean criticizes government secrecy—NASA’s FOIA misdirections, the Brookings Report’s warnings—and insists independent media like Larry Germain’s National Geographic special holds the key to disclosure. Callers corroborate military anomalies, from vanished Tomahawk missiles in 1994 to radar-evading objects near Navy ships, while Bell notes mainstream media’s avoidance stems from fear, not evidence. The episode underscores a pattern of suppressed knowledge, where constitutional violations may outrank UFOs as the real threat. [Automatically generated summary]
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To answer a question raised last night, Envy, Pride, Wrath, Swamp, Reed, What Adults?
Seven deadlines.
And I'm kind of curious.
If you think about those really hard, how many how deadly are you?
So that's one, two, three, four out of seven, and you're out.
How about any of the rest of you?
Prepare to run down?
I'm going to keep this list here, just in case anybody out there wants to run down that list and count their number.
All right.
Let me first inform you that coming up next Thursday night, Friday morning, is theoretical physicist Dr. Michio Kaku.
And I talked to Dr. Kaku earlier today because of this amazing story going on.
This amazing story.
I'm not letting this one go.
Once again, there has been, folks, a burst of energy, an explosion so unaccountably large out at the very edge of what we can see.
In other words, at the known edge of our universe, literally.
12 billion light years out.
Where the very first item from our Big Bang may be roughly sitting or expanding, depending on how you think about the Big Bang.
But scientists have detected and confirmed an explosion out there, second only in power, and they're not even sure about this, but second only in power, they suggest, to the power of our original Big Bang.
And as you might imagine, this absolutely intrigued me.
So I called earlier today, Dr. Cuckoo, who would be the exact person to talk to about this.
And he had some thoughts, all right, but he is mystified, too.
He said, you know, Art, about the only thing that I can imagine that would generate this kind of power, or might generate this kind of power, would be the collision of two black holes.
But he said, when you do the numbers, even that is very questionable.
In other words, even the collision of two large black holes, which would generate, I guess, the amount of energy a theoretical physicist might be able to calculate, even he is not so sure that this could have done it.
And so I outright asked him, I mean, what the hell he's a scientist, but I said, look, as I have read this story from just about every source, I've got to imagine the word creation.
Now, for the purpose of our discussion, we don't have to attach it to the word God, but we definitely can discuss creation, an event of a magnitude that really does suggest creation.
So, anyway, he'll have a week to think about it.
And a week from tonight, Dr. Kagu will be here.
And we will ask him what he knows.
It's just really absolutely fascinating stuff.
Well, let me see.
The regulation.
Oh, there is one other thing I ought to get out first, I guess.
Weird occurrence in Atlanta last night.
Really, really weird.
A 49-year-old Kingston, Georgia man with a shotgun taped to his body aimed at his head held Atlanta police at bay for nearly eight hours, driving in circles on the front lawn of the Jewish synagogue, the Temple on Peachtree Street in Atlanta.
The standoff ended just after 2 a.m. when police set off a flashbang in front of his truck to distract him and then subdued him with a taser gun.
There were thankfully no injuries.
The temple, the scene of the infamous 1958 bombing, but police don't think the temple had any special significance to Charles Morgan.
Morgan had used tape to spell out several words on his truck, such as right-wing and coup and help.
Atlanta police mayor, a major John Woodward, said Morgan had with him several printouts that he had downloaded from the internet about a right-wing conspiracy, which apparently concerned Morgan.
As the evening wore on, he began calling two names, Stephanie DeLuca, the reporter on WGST who had been covering the story because it was going on for eight hours and my name Art Bell there is no evidence he ever got through to Bell well he didn't get through to Bell so I didn't hear about all of this until it
was all over already all over and the police have the man in custody but apparently for hours he had been demanding to talk to me and uh...
the odds of his being able to get through on this program uh...
even during that eight hours are pretty slim and none but she had been trying to talk to me for whatever reason i guess he thought that uh...
i would have the opportunity to provide the publicity for whatever it was he thought was going on some sort of right wing who are something i'm not fully clear on all of that but that was going on in atlanta as the program was on last night pretty freaky i woke up this morning and there was a call from atlanta the program
director and i call them right back area called the network and i call right back and he told me all about it well actually i can't tell you what i said you're kidding happened
or something a little more dramatic now that occurred in Atlanta last night if anybody in Atlanta has any updates for me on that I would appreciate any news whatsoever okay let's see what is the news I'll read you the headlines U.S. envoy heads to Mideast so what the talks are going nowhere fast Senate panel rejects base closings good we don't need trim down anymore Senate
passes irs overhaul bill the president wanted a bill that would expand the taxpayers rights your rights what they ought to do is pass some kind of bill of that does something real about the irs just as harry brown said the other night libertarian news release celebrate tax freedom day it's may
tenth may another words since the beginning of the year and until may tenth two days from now you have done nothing but work for the government think about that think about that you've got two more days of working for the government and then you begin working for yourself we have had two
more events on the sun actually three to class and players and another class x flare if you listen to my
program on a long distance station you know far away you are going to notice as this process continues that at times you're not going to hear anything but local stations and that will be because of the solar storms the magnetic storms that we are having and we are having some real whiz bang storms let me tell you as
a matter of fact these storms are capable of producing power failures and i must say that here we've been getting little blips in the electricity i wonder if any of you have noticed it here where i live we have these little suddenly just suddenly just goes like that i just got this fax tonight may seventh art we have been experiencing
intermittent power failures the power will cut out for about five to ten seconds well i don't have that just long enough to erase electronic memory yes i sympathize the odd part is that the weather is mild hardly cloudy calm and without any weather events some kind of brown out or blackout or what
could it be related to the mass ejections from the sun and by the way we also had three new cmes mass eject ejecta from the sun that's where you know an actual piece of the sun blasts outward there is some serious activity serious activity going on in our sun it really is something coincidentally next hour uh...
robert old dean is going to be here that a lot to talk about with robert old dean like you'll find it uh...
fascinating so in a moment we will go to open lines and we'll talk about anything you wish to talk about well all right just one little item here from los angeles on a saduki thirty three years of age and his brother were having a problem with bees you know and they can be a bother uh...
but on the company his brother decided to remove a bees nest from a shed on their property with the aid of a pineapple now a pineapple for those of you who have not been around that long is an illegal firecracker which is the explosive equivalent of about a half stick of dynamite now that sets pretty powerful
stuff so they ignited the fuse on the pineapple and retreated to watch from inside their home wisely behind a window some ten feet away from the hive or shed if you will uh...
however the concussion of the the pineapple shattered the window inward seriously lacerating ani deciding that ani needed stitches the brothers headed out to go to a nearby hospital but unfortunately while walking toward the car ani was stung three times by the few surviving shell shocked bees bees.
Unbeknownst to either brother, Ani was allergic to bee venom and died of suffocation en route to the hospital.
And I'm sure there are those of you who would suggest that was karma.
Use a virtual hat stick of dynamite to blow up a beehive.
And the few surviving shocked but very angry bees do you in.
And the reason I brought it up, one of the things, I don't have a ham license yet, but I've been checking into it, and it's not as daunting as it seems, as it might seem.
And by the way, I should tell you and everybody else, you are thinking of getting into ham radio at the ultimate time to get in.
Right now is the ultimate time to get in because with the Sun Cycle, number 23 here on the Ascension train, it's going to get really, really good.
I mean, it's going to be really fun.
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Well, one of the reasons I wanted to mention this article, to get the other listeners, if they've been thinking about it and they're not quite sure, the name of the article itself is Contact Astronauts in Orbit with Amateur Radio.
It's an article by Keith Stein.
And of course, I'm not going to read it to you, but there are tables of frequencies in here, frequency tables, uplink and downlink for Mir Space Station.
We're at the bottom of the hour, but I tell you all, the Sun Cycle is well on its way.
And all the handbands are going to go absolutely nuts so that, for example, somebody with almost no power at all will be able to talk to somebody on the other side of the world just like they're sitting in the same room.
And this will go on for several years as Sun Cycle number 23 continues in its ascension phase.
So for several years now, Amradio, it's going to be a blast.
He says, with his new rig sitting over there just waiting, I've been looking forward to this.
From the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell, and we'll be right back.
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I don't need to ask you what's going on.
Can you wait forever?
Can you wait forever?
Even though he wants me.
When it's all right and it's coming on, we gotta get right back to where we started from.
Love is good, love can be strong, we gotta get right back to where we started from.
Love is good.
From the Kingdom of Nye, this is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
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Anyway, they had a brief reference to the sounds from hell in there, and they said that basically what it is is it's actually an urban myth that dates back to an article in a christian church newsletter that was published in the late 80s that mentioned this story and it was a bag yeah there's a problem with it though uh with that uh take and that is that uh there was a legitimate article uh i believe in a scandinavian
and I'm not sure which country newspaper that originally reported this and even the Associated Press picked it up.
I'm not exactly sure what sloth is, but have you had any sloth?
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Yeah, sloth, I think, is that sort of thing that sets in around 2.30 on a Friday afternoon when you've either just been busting your hump all day and you just decide to go get a cup of sloth.
If you think that's libel, you ought to see some of the stuff they put on parody websites and stuff like that about me.
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Yeah.
Who cares?
Okay, but I just want to know, like, one of the things they say is that Robert Ghostwolf is not truly an Indian, that he's an Italian, and he goes by another name.
i believe that you are actually further east than the caribbean islands is that true uh i i i believe so i think if you look on a longitude basis uh that that would probably be true so when i open the show every night i may be misrepresenting the caribbean as the farthest east of the middle Don't worry, we don't feel slighted.
Anyway, what's up?
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Well, I was just going to compliment you on your excellent music selection.
Lorena McKinnett, if you can get to see her in Vancouver, definitely go.
I mean, anybody's guess is as good as another's, including the professor's right now.
But I'll tell you what my private thoughts are.
My private thoughts are that at the edge of our known universe, where there would be nothing else but this timeless nothing, there is now the beginnings of another universe.
And I was shocked to read the story because it is a specialty item of my wife's, and we've been eating Perump Pondfish now at least once a week for a year.
So I had a sudden crush of guilt last night.
They're a little bony, but they're good.
unidentified
Yeah?
Well, I have another question for you real quick.
One of the nights that you had Father Malachi on?
Yes.
I'm not sure.
I listened to the whole program, but I wasn't sure if you had discussed it with him about the lady that called in, that had the boogeyman watching over.
I don't know about boogeymen, but I remember.
Yeah.
Did he have any kind of concerns or did the lady ever get in touch with him?
Well, either that or it's going to burn us all up like supposed to be, might be, but I think the energy that's coming off this Big Bang that's going to hit this plant, this universe.
I think we're lucky that it occurred 12 billion light years out.
So, if somebody like you, who's done nothing more than a lot of lust and a little pride, has had a negative experience, then what about that caller who just scored seven out of seven?
That guy's on an escalator ride down to the bottom.
I'm afraid that'll have to do it for now.
Ah, boy.
Robert O'Dean is coming up, if all goes well.
And I think you're going to enjoy this from the high desert.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast,
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Don't love me now.
You'll never love me again.
I can still hear you say it.
You will never break the jammer.
And if you don't love me now, you'll never love me again.
The music stops, and I feel obliged to stop right with it.
Music is tied into our brains, kind of like the godspot.
Anyway, coming up in a moment, Robert O'Dean.
This is interesting.
Just before we go to Robert O'Dean here, it says, Art, we were discussing the seven deadly sins, envy, pride, wrath, sloth, greed, gluttony, and lust, and I was interviewing people and asking them how, you know, sort of taking a poll.
I only got two people.
One guy was seven out of seven.
The other guy was sort of like a one and a half.
But somebody just sent me back and says, you're not accountable for sins until you're 20 years old, according to the Bible.
Now, I didn't know that.
You're not accountable for sins until you're 20 years old.
Now, why is it I find out about this now at 53?
If I'd known that then, well, days are gone.
Robert O. Dean has been engaged in the field of ufology for the last 40 years.
That's a long time.
He began this research on active duty in the U.S. Army, where he served for 27 years.
Retired as Command Sergeant Major from the Army in 1976 as a highly decorated combat veteran.
After having served as an infantry unit commander in combat in Korea and Vietnam, he also served in intelligence field operations in Laos, Cambodia, and North Vietnam, dark stuff.
Additionally, from 1963 to 7, he served at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe, or SHAPE, the military arm of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, as an intelligence analyst with a cosmic top-secret clearance.
While on that assignment, he was a sergeant major and worked in the operations division, was a member of the Intercommand Staff, working with and seeing the Supreme Allied Commander of Europe almost every day.
For 14 years, he worked with and for FEMA.
He retired as an emergency service manager from the Pima County Sheriff's Department.
He is the former Arizona State Assistant Director and the former Pima County Section Director for the Mutual UFO Network.
Continues as a MOVON member at large.
He is a member of the Center for UFO Studies, as well as a member of the Ancient Astronaut Society.
He was formerly a member of the board of directors of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, or APRO, for 12 years.
Now, a shape, which he was involved in, was one of those choice assignments, he would say.
You've got to have a spotless record, past security background checks.
And he got in.
And so he got to see some things that none of the rest of us ever got to see.
And we'll talk about those things and what he's doing now.
He didn't say the year he was in when he was listening to my program, which was a repeat of a program you and I had done together, or even more ominously may be doing now.
One is, I'm sure you've heard me talk of it, but scientists have just detected at 12 billion light years out the largest explosion ever seen or recorded in all of our known scientific history,
and they say the largest Since the Big Bang itself, I spoke with Professor Michio Kaku yesterday, or earlier today, actually, and he said, Well, you know, it might be the collision.
The only thing we can imagine is the collision of two black holes.
But even that is, we believe, insufficient to explain this amount of energy release.
Now, 12 billion light years out is a really interesting point because that's sort of the edge of the known universe in look back time.
So it could be that we have just witnessed another creation.
A good friend of mine downloaded that for me, and I was intrigued by that, and it just brought to mind how little we really know about what's going on out there.
You know, I don't have disrespect for our scientists, but I do wish that some of them would be a bit more modest and have a little sense of humility about what they're doing.
Because what they don't seem to grasp, as Alan Hynek made clear a couple of times before he died, is don't forget that there will be a 21st, 22nd, and 23rd century science, and that they will look back upon what we're doing today the same way we look back upon scientists in the 17th century.
well that's right because and and the other proof of that is I have to.
It's part of the job.
And every other day, you get a story that begins, scientists previously thought, and then, of course, it goes on from there, whatever the subject is, to say, but new information now shows.
Remember recently when they made a disclosure that they had discovered a couple of galaxies out there that apparently were older than the universe itself?
I have something I want to read you, and I couldn't agree more with you.
I want to read this and just get your reaction.
It's entitled, A Radar Trap Speeding UFOs.
It comes from Jim in Philadelphia, who pulled it from the International Express Tuesday, May 5th.
Britain's X-Files may be opened up amid claims of stunning evidence that UFOs fly over Britain.
Tapes to be shown to British and American experts are said to show objects that change shape in mid-air and a battleship-sized aircraft traveling at 33 times the speed of sound.
The details are due to be revealed in early June at a space symposium at the RAF's Cranwell Staff College.
A senior RAF source claims the mystery craft have been picked up by the latest phased array radar at the Cold War Listening Post in North Yorkshire.
The most spectacular discovery, now listen folks, is a craft spotted over the North Sea described as, quote, the size of a battleship, end quote.
It zigzagged at up to 24,000 miles per hour for 15 minutes as if it wanted to be spotted.
Another shows a group of 12 oval objects seemingly changing shape, but the RAF may withhold some tapes, listen to this, folks, because it is feared they could reveal how sophisticated their new radars are.
I'm sure you're aware that our naval people have some pretty advanced technology, and they have had for some years.
And they've been tracking stuff under the surface of the North Sea, the Norwegian Sea, and the Atlantic, where objects as big as aircraft carriers are moving at high rates of speed.
We have the North Atlantic pretty well plotted out with all kinds of sonar.
And you can hardly move under the surface in the North Atlantic without our naval people being aware of it.
We even got so good with it that we could even tell the class of the submarine that the Soviets had out there.
We knew the sound of the motors.
We even knew who the captains were.
But they've been monitoring stuff, Art, under the surface of objects that are bigger than aircraft carriers, traveling at several hundred miles an hour.
But, you know, that same wave rider fax that was up there that caused you so much grief, it made a prediction about a triangular craft observed headed from the British area toward America across the North Atlantic.
These big black triangles have been spotted now for quite a number of years.
I'm sure you're familiar with the famous flat that went on some years back in the Hudson Valley.
Hynek and Philip M. Brognell wrote a beautiful book called Night Siege about these gigantic black triangles that were hovering all over the Hudson Valley.
This one gigantic object hovered over the Indian Point nuclear reactor for over an hour.
Thousands of people had stopped on the freeways and were looking at this thing.
And then we had a similar flap in Belgium where the big black triangles were being spotted.
And now they're being spotted all over northern England.
I've made a prediction, and I don't like to be a prophet or a preacher here, but I've made a prediction that we're going to be seeing more and more and more of this.
Because, frankly, Art, I think that the process is underway.
That we're going to be gently and carefully indoctrinated as to what's really happening on the state.
And I must say I agree with Stephen in a sense that he's just about given up hope that Congress is ever going to do anything worthwhile to bring this thing out.
And as you know, I refuse to give up on the constitutional system.
I think it can be made to work.
I think if some of these so-and-so's in Congress would get off their duff and really do the job they're being paid to do, that the constitutional process would work.
But in this particular issue, I've begun to reach the same conclusion that Greer and Bob Brown and you and a few other people is I don't think the answer is in Congress.
I don't think the answer is in the Obal Office.
Frankly, I don't think the answer is in government at all.
I wish that we could proceed with the way you're supposed to be able to proceed under the Constitution and get where you want to go, but we're not going to do it, Bob.
You see, that's been the whole point of this group we put together called Coalition for Honesty in Government.
And the petitions we've got now are numbering well over 10,000, and we're really just beginning to collect them.
And I keep believing eventually that somebody in Congress will stand up, have the guts and courage to speak out, do what he was elected to do, and help bring this out.
But then I look back and see what happened to Stephen Schiff.
sure so so if somebody in congress were to publicly stand up and actually call for open congressional hearings on this subject perfect I've stated this many times, and many of the people who are involved in Stargate know this to be true.
That we've got a couple of hundred people out there, still alive, still ornery, still kicking, ex-military, some of them even still on active duty, who are willing to come forward and testify to everything they know.
And all they ask is for an open, open-door congressional hearing.
And what I told him is if he's really got the evidence, and if you really have the evidence, then NBC, CBS, ABC, one of those networks, because of one of the seven deadly sins here, we'll call it greed, will definitely put together a program for ratings which equal money.
And that's all it would take, is one of the major, even the CNN, one of the major networks to do a full, maybe one or two hour or even several part, honest to God, real documentary, interviewing the kind of people and presenting the kind of evidence that you claim that you've got and Steve Greer says he's got.
Somehow or another, I'm going to have to get to see that.
What a remarkable voice.
Well, all right, back now to Robert O'Dean, my guest.
Robert, let's pretend for a moment that I am a, I don't know, I'm an NBC executive.
And I come to you and I say, okay, Robert, I've heard on the Art Bell program that you, that Dr. Greer and others, have evidence that would be considered unambiguous.
Unambiguous evidence.
Without giving me names, because we're not to that point yet, what could you do to prove to me that I should spend millions of dollars on a real whoop-de-doo production that would put enough pressure on Washington to open this thing up like a can of tuna?
Well, if you're a private producer, I would first of all get your attention by the point of reminding you that this subject, I think, is probably one of the most sensitive subjects in the world today.
And I think that the American public are so damn starved for the truth on this issue that they would fall over themselves trying to support and tune in and listen and be involved in an honest, to goodness, straightforward, objective representation of the evidence.
I think that the CBS guy who's interested in the bottom line could recognize if he just looks at the market to see what's been going on with Stargate, Star Trek, all the rest of that, that the subject is a matter of great interest to the typical American.
But listen, I've got a good friend in Hollywood, a young producer by the name of Larry Germain, who has got the National Geographic interested in this, and that they are seriously giving some thought to putting together an hour special.
And we're working right at the moment to get Ed Mitchell, Gordon Cooper, and a few other of the guys involved in this thing.
And if we can give National Geographic just a few more big names, I think Larry's going to be able to sell the show.
If you were to invite me to, say, come to Washington like Greer did here, what, last year, I'd have to rent a truck to bring the evidence with me, Art.
Literally.
But I would invite you to my home, to my office, and I would keep you there for at least five or six hours, and I would astound you with the stuff that I've got.
I mean, I have photographs.
I have samples.
I have testimony.
I have government-classified documents.
You give me a little bit of time, and you come in and sit down.
I serve the drinks.
All I ask is your time and an open mind.
Art, I could convince you of what's available there.
Where one general is talking to another general about the biggest problem in the world, the biggest problem to their minds, and that's the UFO issue.
I could show you letters typed on Air Force Stationary that go back at least 30 years, where the Air Force itself, 30, 40 years ago, made the determination that these objects were extraterrestrial spacecraft.
No, I'm talking about autopsies I saw in the NATO study of an autopsy conducted by the British Army in 1964, where a UFO, a big one, about 30-meter disk, crashed in northern Germany.
Oh, well, the photographs, from what you could tell, and they were black and white, I didn't see any color pictures, but the black and white showed little guys very similar to what the little greys look like.
When it was after I had to sue the sheriff of the Pima County Sheriff's Department, I worked real hard for him for 14 years.
And when my boss retired, I applied for the job, Art, and I ended up number one on the list.
And we went through the hiring procedures.
We followed the regulations.
We did all of that good stuff.
And he denied me that promotion.
And when I finally was able to pin him down and hold his feet to the fire, he had to admit, under oath, that the only reason that he could not offer me that position was that I was interested in UFOs.
And the sheriff, a man that I respected and admired and worked for loyally, said, well, I can't have anybody on my staff, you know, who believes in UFOs.
And, well, we went to court.
We went through 24 months of litigation art, cost me $31,000 of money that I didn't have.
And one week before the jury trial, they settled with me out of court.
And now, after I went through that, I said to hell with it, I'm going to start speaking out on this subject.
Because there were other guys out there like me who had been similarly treated.
In America generally, you are allowed to say anything you want to say, but then, of course, you are subject to being arrested and carted off after you say it.
In Britain, if they think you're going to say it, they can stop it before you say it.
Well, the medical examiners didn't have a lot of conclusions at the time.
You understand this was a military study, and it was a specifically designed study for three years.
When they designed it in 1961 and began this thing, it was called an assessment, and it had a subtitle of an evaluation of a possible military threat to allied forces in Europe.
And they published it, finished it in 1964, and they concluded, basically, that, one, the planet and the human race has apparently been under some kind of survey or study of some kind by what appeared to be extraterrestrial civilizations.
Two, it appeared to have been going on for a very, very long time.
And one of the other conclusions was there were several different groups involved.
And when I left SHAPE in 1967, we knew of at least four of them.
So in 1967, we were certain of, basically certain, of about four.
When I retired in 1976 from the Army, we knew generally of about a dozen of them.
God knows, Art, there could be over a hundred of them now.
I mean, who knows?
I've concluded over the years of my research that we're probably dealing with literally hundreds, if not thousands, of cultures and civilizations out there.
Well, then here is a critical question, one I want to know, and that is, of the ones that you knew about then, was there any conclusion with reference to their motive or their relative friendliness or antagonism toward us?
In the shape study, they concluded that these guys were apparently not malevolent or hostile.
Because the evidence that had been demonstrated to us repeatedly in the skies over Europe and on the ground is that if these guys had been hostile or malevolent, that the game would have been up a hell of a long time ago.
Well, then and in the years in between and even now, Robert, we keep getting reports of these UFOs hovering near or above areas where we believe, of course we never know for sure, but we believe there are nuclear assets.
The most recent one was the state of Washington about a week ago.
Now, it would make sense to me that they would be extremely and naturally interested in our nuclear capability and intentions.
When they got inside, they found that the guidance system, which was a pre-computerized system, was pre-targeting, had been scrambled in such a way that if the damn missile had ever left the silo, God knows where it would have gone.
And then when they further took the nose cone off, they found that the uranium-plutonium trigger warhead was literally melted, that it would never have exploded.
That's one case that I was definitely aware of, and there have been several others.
And what happened outside of Vladivostok, and there was another one outside of St. Petersburg, where they activated the Soviet missile system, and the Soviets were just jumping through, you know, they were having fits.
My guest is Robert O. Dean, a man who for many, many years was in the military, had a cosmic top secret clearance, and is telling me things tonight that I have never heard before, including, and we're about to go back over this again.
He says that one of our nuclear warheads was literally melted by a UFO that, well, we'll tell the story again in a moment.
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Art, it happened in November of 1981 at Minot, North Dakota, a few miles outside of the city, where there was an entire complex of Minuteman Intercontinental Ballistic Missile Silos.
And they put them all around a central control point.
Now, each one of these Minuteman silos at that time had a 10-megaton warhead.
And it was all pre-programmed and pre-guided by computer.
And all they had to do was launch the damn thing, and it would go to the target that had been selected.
And the emergency security team was alerted and they went out to the site because they thought there had been a break-in.
These things are completely sealed with 10 or 12 foot barbed wire fences and such.
And the indication was that someone had broken into the system.
When they got there, Ark, it was a bit of a shock because when they arrived, the damn thing was still hovering over the silo.
And the control, the controller, the lieutenant colonel who was in charge of the security team, lost control of a few of his young kids and they started shooting at the damn thing.
They could hear M16s ricocheting off of this thing.
And it sat there for a few minutes, just, I think, long enough to get their attention.
And then it drifted off and then departed at a high rate of speed.
When they got over to the silo itself, they found the 20-ton door, which is on railroad tracks, and is run by hydraulics and steam and whatever.
The thing had been lifted off art like a a box of cookies and set about 30 feet off to the side.
This thing had been lifted off the track.
The silo was open.
So they immediately called emergency and they got technicians from the repair site out there on the scene.
They got into the missile and they found that not only had this computer guidance system been scrambled completely, but the damned warhead itself had been melted.
Now this is a missile with a 10-megaton warhead that uses a nuclear warhead to trigger the thermonuclear.
Well, you may recall five times, I believe, during Ronald Reagan's tour as president, he indicated that we may well have to have a defense system to protect Earth against somebody from space.
He used it several times.
Absolutely.
So there was something about Ronald Reagan that I always trusted, and I still to this day trust he was absolutely, and whether you agreed or disagreed with his philosophy, which was rock solid, he was honest.
And he had a way of saying exactly what was on his mind, be damned the consequences.
You know, that's a good question, and I'm glad you brought it up because I wanted to talk to you about it.
Many of us, like Stephen Greer, myself, and a few others, have been waiting desperately and raising hell and arguing and complaining, trying to get Congress to get off its duff and do something.
You know, I've almost reached a conclusion, Art, that the disclosure is underway.
Incredible things are happening all over the world.
And just to give you one example, you had some time back a retired journalist by the name of Philip Croft.
I know the man, and I have a great respect for him.
And what he's been talking about about the moon and Mars is right on.
Let me tell you, the Defense Department, the military, they all know that Richard Hoagland is right.
His little releases and his book on the anomalies of Mars and the moon is right on, Art.
And you allow him to come on, and he speaks, and people listen.
And I think you are part of it, whether you know it or not, and I commend you for your effort, and I wish you much success, and I hope the hell this program stays on for another 10 years.
Because we're not getting the truth out of our government.
The stuff is happening, Art, all over the planet.
And why is the United States' typical media so silent about this?
A little notification, so to speak, that we're here.
We've been around for quite a while.
We're watching every damn thing you do.
We have film and video of them circling around one of our missiles being launched out of Vandenberg.
They blew up the Atlas missile right there on film, right in front of us.
And these things in the Soviet Union, plus what's happened in the United States, and Minot, North Dakota, was only one incident out of about three or four.
I think it's a pretty clear lesson that someone is saying, look, knock off this nuclear stuff.
We're not going to let you do this because you can destroy the planet.
Now, I'm hopeful that that's what's happening.
The evidence leads me to suspect that that's what's taking place.
Art in my studies over the years, and I'm not tooting My own horn, but I've spent a good number of years at this trying to figure out what's really happening here.
And I've gone beyond the UFO matter, I've gone far beyond the extraterrestrial intelligence reality.
And I've tried to really come to terms with what really seems to be taking place here.
And I think that the human race, the human species, on this planet, is being prepared for something incredible.
I think we're being invited out there, and I think that the next millennium is going to be unbelievable.
Because Art, I believe in it.
I believe the human species will make it.
I think that there's something within us that will survive.
And I think we're going to make it.
And I think we've got some friends out there that are trying to help us.
So, you know, we've told a few senators and we've told members of the House that if they give us an open hearing, we've stated flatly that we can fill the hearing room.
And we can bring guys in like the young man who sent you the facts.
We can bring guys in who are still wearing stars.
And we'll fill that hearing room and it'll open the door.
Well, we are going to actually take calls for Robert O'Dean here shortly.
He is now 69 years old, almost 70, and he is violating a security clearance by telling you the things he is telling you this morning.
But he doesn't care.
i guess he's passed that point and it is rather unfortunate isn't it that we have to get uh...
But that is the reality of the world.
And even people who have attained the age that Robert has, many of them will not or cannot come forward because they have pensions.
Their entire livelihood is at risk if they come forward.
But he's done it.
So we'll get back to him in a moment.
All right.
You know what I think I'm going to do?
I think that I am going to open a line, one line, for any of you who have information of the caliber that Robert O. Dean has been talking about.
Any of you who have been in the military or the government and know firsthand of the sorts of things that Bob Dean is talking about now.
The incident at Mina, North Dakota, with the Minuteman.
And I know there was certainly an incident in the Soviet Union.
Any of you sonar operators who have heard and can confirm the rapid undersea transit of vehicles doing literally hundreds of miles per hour or any other area of expertise, not people who have seen lights in the sky or sightings, but military people who are now willing.
And I understand the problems associated with coming forward.
But here I've got a guy on the radio who has violated his lifetime security oath to say what he's saying.
Surely there are other people who can grow the right kind of body parts to do the same thing.
It's the only way we're going to get to this, to the bottom of all this.
So let me reserve one line away for any person of that sort.
If that is you, please, anybody calling our first time caller line, hang up.
And we'll reserve that line for people who are the caliber of Robert O'Dean.
That number is area code 702-727-1222702727-1222.
If you wish to reach us otherwise to go on the air with Bob Dean, you can use any one of the other numbers.
But I would ask the public cooperate and let that line be free so that anybody of the sort that I just talked about can get through.
Would make for a very interesting program.
I know the show is so big it's very hard to do that right now.
But I ask that you please do it.
I will screen that line, so please don't waste your money if that's not you.
And again, serving up fair warning, that one line I am going to reserve for people of the Robert O'Dean caliber who have first-hand information about the sorts of things we have discussed tonight.
Area code 702-727-1222.
Having said that, I would like to begin taking calls for Robert O'Dean.
And before the calls come, and I'm looking forward to speaking to some of your listeners, I would like to say a word or two, if I may, about an organization that I helped found here a few years ago.
And it's an international network of members that we put together.
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They support Stargate, and I would like to invite them to become members and subscribe to the newsletter because we're in a position to send them some free information and hopefully get them involved in this petition, collecting these signatures for the Coalition of Honesty and Government.
This is going to sound silly to you, but long before the movie, and long before we found out that the Army had a top-secret remote viewing program called Stargate, I had a dream one night.
And in that dream, I heard a voice say to me that in the fullness of time, the Stargate will open, and the children of the light will return home.
Arnt, I believe I may shine some light on the reason that there is interest in our nuclear missile sites.
I once read a book called The Neotech Discovery.
The book explained that any civilization whose technological ability reaches the point where they can traverse space-time and or interdimensional travel will reach and go beyond something called a nuclear threshold.
When any civilization reaches that threshold, they will either overcome it or destroy themselves.
Perhaps they are testing us to see if we are capable of overcoming that threshold.
Yeah, well, let me tell you a little bit about Robert Bigelow, something you may or may not know.
When I was in Las Vegas at Las Vegas radio station where I spent a decade, Robert Bigelow approached me through a media person in Las Vegas who we both knew.
And Robert Bigelow had me to his mansion.
No other way to describe it.
It's a mansion in Las Vegas.
And I was ushered in and I went, I've never told this story on the air, I don't think, and I was ushered in and went to this very expansive office area.
It would be something that you would imagine to see in the oval office.
I mean, big.
Very impressive.
Sat me down and asked me if I was interested in producing a show that Investigated these kinds of things.
Near-death experiences.
He had personal reasons for wanting that.
UFOs, remote viewing, all of the topics that I now cover.
And I said, oh, well, as a matter of fact, yes.
Now, the reason I guess he approached me is he had heard me do shows sporadically through the years with the likes of John Lear and Bob Lazar and people like that.
And I sat there and I said, of course, yes, of course.
And so Robert Bigelow financed, and I mean in totality, financed a program called Area 2000 that I began on that radio station.
Now, if you imagine that I am an operative or I'm being used in some way, then you could easily, and I have from time to time, wondered, if Mr. Bigelow is not the one who sat me down and told me the facts of life.
We were told that, you know, that it was a simple malfunction in the heating blanket of the missile because, like I said, the propellant can't get below a certain temperature, so they keep the missiles wrapped with these heating blankets.
And their story was that the heating blanket shorted out and burned the missile up that way.
Were you told that this information was secret, that you were not to tell anybody about it or anything else?
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Everybody already had a clearance.
Of course, they always made a big thing about talking about what goes on on duty in town.
They would even go as far as to send our own operatives, people at a headquarters company would go into town and listen to some of the conversations going on at the bars and what have you.
And, of course, they'd come back and report to us in formation.
Hey, you guys are talking too much.
And then spill out some of the things that we're talking too much about.
One of the very best ways to prove to the American public that what we're saying is as real as can be is to put people like that young man on the air, even if they're not willing to come forward.
That angers me, Art, that a young man who's willing to come out and say the truth to help defend his constitutional system of government can put himself in harm's way, so to speak, just for coming out and telling the truth.
What happened was that an unusual object was picked up on radar near Tehran.
And the Iranians, and this was during the Shah's period of time, they got a couple of F-4s up one night to look this thing over and see what the hell was happening.
And this was a pretty good-sized object, giving off a lot of light, and it was giving an enormous signal on the radar.
And these two F-4s got relatively close to it, and one of them armed his guns and made an approach, and apparently, as he was making the approach with his guns armed, every electrical system in the plane shut down.
And of course, this is what used to be jokingly referred to as Sphincter City by the pilots.
And the other plane made a similar pass and approached this enormous object, which was being watched from the ground, which was being monitored on radar, and was monitored by the pilots in the planes.
And he made a similar pass, and the same thing happened to him.
And he got real panicky and pulled away.
And this thing was monitored by, as I say, hundreds of People on the ground.
A number of Iranian Air Force generals were testifying to the reality of it.
And it's a classic case.
And this thing literally was seen later to land.
And they went back to the site after daylight and looked at where it landed.
And basically we had a weapon system on board called the Vertical Launch Weapon System.
I don't know if anybody's ever heard of that.
But it pertains more towards the tomahawk side of things.
Now what happened was one night I was in my computer space working on my computer for my weapon system.
And what happened was I had to go find my supervisor.
And just outside on the weather deck, there's a little small part called the smoke brick.
Normally sailors hang out there who want to smoke at night because at night you darken ship so that people can't identify the ship as the U.S. warship.
Now I went outside and as I did so, standing right on the catwalk was a friend of mine named OS1.
Okay, that's what I'll call him for now on because I don't want to disclose the guy's name.
He's an operations specialist basically.
Now he was staring at something in the distance.
Now just off the beam of the ship, I don't know if you understand what the beam of the ship is.
That's basically just off of the side.
It'd be the starboard side or the right-hand side of the ship.
There was something out there and it was a light.
Now he was staring at it intently.
It had been for several minutes.
I mean I was preoccupied trying to get in touch with my supervisor so I could ask questions about what I should do next.
So I asked him, have you seen such and such?
And he goes, no, but you've got to look at this.
This is really neat.
So I stood there and I looked at it and it appeared to be maybe a container vessel or an aircraft carrier or some other type of thing with a side door open, perhaps.
Basically it was maybe about, I'd say, 30 meters long, rectangular in shape, and it was very brilliant, and it looked as if there were figures moving around inside.
So I looked at it and I told him, well, that's just a container vessel.
I didn't even worry about it.
So what I did was I went inside, looked inside the smoke brake, didn't find my supervisor, came back around, and I looked at it again.
And he said to me, he goes, no, you really got to stay here and look at this.
I said, I don't really have time on that one, right?
So I turned back around and went back inside the skin of the ship.
No sooner than I stepped through the darkened ship fittings, all power on the ship went out.
Okay, so I stood there for several minutes until finally somebody got some kind of power up somewhere.
The battle lanterns came back on, and then they called General Quarters.
So basically, that means the ship's under attack.
So I scrambled up to the next level above, which is where CIC is.
That's Combat Information Central.
It's basically the nerve center of the ship.
And scurried to my station.
So I'm sitting up there, we're trying to bring all our systems back up.
Now, when you have a catastrophic power drop-off like that with the computer, there's a good chance that information is going to be fouled up when you try to bring it back up.
But just behind the console where I sit in CIC, there is the Tom Hawk console.
A buddy of mine, who we're going to name Nayless this time, was scrambling trying to figure out what was wrong.
And there were all these khaki uniforms around him.
So I'm sitting there and there's a lot of questions being asked and things like that.
I'm looking at him going, well, hey, what the heck's going on here?
So I went on ahead and I just got on the net for the ship.
We have this communication network called sound-powered phones on board, which we use to communicate.
And I'm listening to the watchkeepers outside, outside the skin of the ship.
There's normally six guys which are on lookout on the top of the ship at night.
And everybody's going bananas.
They're talking about that object that OS-1 had pointed out to me shot up off the water and projected a stroving beam at the ship just prior to the power drop-off.
We went on ahead and went through our paces and found out that this thing had eluded us.
It had taken off.
So we went on ahead and hightailed it back to port.
The home port of this ship, I can disclose this, is Yokosuka, Japan.
And by the time we got back to Yokosuka, Japan, I was with a friend of mine who was the fellow who put this missile in question in the module where it was to be launched.
And he was the gunner's mate.
Now, what happened was we were basically told not to discuss this.
But I kind of hung around that day just to see what was going on.
I happened to be on watch that day.
So when they finally pulled in, a group of people came on board.
They were wearing gray and black suits, right, with the alphabet agencies behind them.
I know a few of them to be the NIS, the Naval Investigative Service.
Sure.
It has now changed his name.
And I do know that some of the other ones were also NSA.
Now, they came on board and they were talking to the Gunner's Mate Chief about this particular missile.
And Gunner's Mate Chief told them, hey, you know, this missile, when we got it, everything was cool.
There was no problems with it.
We had no difficulty.
Showed them all the maintenance records on it.
My friend who was up there in charge of firing the weapon, he showed them all the maintenance records things on it.
When you got back to Yokuska, was the Tomahawk still gone?
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Now, it was still reading as being fired.
Now, this is where it really gets cool-hard, okay?
What they wanted to do is they wanted to do a physical inspection of the missile itself.
Now, what this entailed is opening up the doorway which leads down to the missile.
Now, they did so.
They opened that up.
Now, just over the top of every missile that you get is a protective piece of latex, the black piece of latex, which prevents weather from getting in and salt water.
This was still there.
Now, if a missile had been fired out of that module, that would have been torn.
These things were still in place, but there was no missile.
Now, when my friend, the gunner's mate, had put this missile on board, his maintenance records, the first thing that they do is attach the external umbibical cord to the internal coupling.
Well, I must say that I'm impressed with what William had to say, and I think this young man knows exactly what he's talking about.
So do I. His knowledge of the procedures and the way these missiles are placed tells me he was there.
And the fact that this missile disappeared and nobody knows what to do or how to account for it, I can imagine this incident is pretty highly classified.
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Yeah, the one thing that did happen after this art was the crew was assembled, and we were told not to speak about it.
Just as a matter of curiosity, I know it's a hard question, but if you knew that others were coming forward, would you, with your name and with your background, which could be checked, come forward?
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I certainly would.
I feel that this is something that really needs to be brought out into the open.
And I've heard from other people on other ships in other parts of the world have had either similar or the exact same thing happen.
And it's really scary when, you know, the U.S. Navy has a war platform like a Sports-class destroyer, which is just about the state-of-the-art that we have in the water right now.
And something can just sneak up on us without being detected by our most powerful radars, and just swipe one of our most powerful weapons out from underneath us.
And if it's been going on, then I just don't know what to say to you.
I wish I had a naval expert on here, but my guess is, and I'm just guessing, a layman, I was an Air Force guy, that everything you've said sounds logical to me.
Now, I want to thank you, and would you please contact me by facts and send me your phone number so we can speak.
I've commended you a couple of times before about the program and the way you handle it.
But I'd like to say something positive about your listeners.
You've got a listener group out there, like William, that can make one hell of a difference.
And I'd like to speak to all of the people who are listening out there who are as concerned about this as you and I are, about the constitutional problems and about the loss of honesty in government.
And I'd like to ask those people to contact Stargate International.
And not only just let us know that you're out there, but let us know that you're willing to help and let us send some material to you.
We have quite a bit of information that we'll send free of charge.
And if you get a hold of Stargate at 1-800-636-6398 or during business hours, 520-882-9544, I think the listeners to the Art Bell Show can make one hell of a difference.
So get in touch with Stargate, guys.
We will do what we can to help you and share information with you.
In addition, on our website, if you scroll down to the name Robert O'Dean, you will see his website there, and you can jump right across and read about Stargate International.
There are places where I guess we have to have points of gathering for people like the man who just called us and like the man who called earlier.
I mean, these are astounding stories, and you can never know for sure if somebody is telling you the truth, but I can only say that listening to that, I think that I was hearing the truth.
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And, you know, on Air Force One, they carry a group of Air Force guys who look after the president, see to his needs, provide him his nutrition and coffee and whatever.
And Holden was ahead of that group on Air Force One during the very brief Kennedy administration.
And Bill made a trip one time.
He was invited to be a member of the stewards group on an Air Force plane that flew a bunch of VIPs Off to a secret place in the United States.
And the president, I don't believe, was aboard at this particular time, but there were a whole bunch of generals and people who got aboard, and they stopped again somewhere from Washington on the way.
And apparently, they went to some facility in the southwest and they landed at an Air Force facility.
And apparently, according to what Bill said, everybody on board was quite shocked because as they taxied over to what appeared to be a canyon in this remote desert area, the canyon kind of opened up and there was a large UFO sitting on the ground.
And it sounds to me like it might have been at S-4 over there outside of south of Area 51.
Yeah, it sounds like it.
Very similar, because Bill said that then the walls of the canyon literally opened up and the plane taxied into this area and there was this big ship sitting there and I guess everybody's mouth dropped open and standing outside of the ship were apparently two or three members of the crew and they weren't from here.
And that's the thing that Bill talks about and he says it affected him, it affected everybody on board and the generals even, some of the top civilians were in a state of shock.
And apparently it was an arranged kind of situation where the Air Force knew it was there and the guys from somewhere knew that the Air Force was coming and there was a little bit of a confab taking place.
But Bill was never allowed off the plane.
All he and the guys could do could look through the windows and see this thing and see these guys that were standing close to it.
As a matter of fact, Honorio Hayakawa sent me a photograph recently taken over Area 51, at Area 51, clearly showing what appears to be a saucer hovering above Area 51.
Now, it is a saucer.
I mean, there's no question about it.
It is that.
So, plus we have literally, literally hundreds of eyewitness reports having seen the same sort of thing in and around Area 51.
And, of course, the overarching question is whether we really do have what we have there.
Do we have our own technology that we are testing?
Do we have back-engineered technology, as Bob Lazar and others believe, being tested at Area 51 or years ago being tested, or even still being tested?
Yes, I know the Germans are sensitive about a lot of things, low-flying aircraft and a lot of other stuff.
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And one of the things that occurred was that while the man was on the radio, he started to become extremely excited and called us around to the back of the track where he was relaying information.
He spoke Czechoslovakian.
His grandparents were in Czechoslovakia.
And he'd even gotten permission to visit them.
But what the report was going on was he was claiming that he was overhearing one of the Czech pilots chasing an object that had invaded their space.
They were unable to raise it, and they were unable to make it veer from its course.
And so this Czech pilot was told to open fire on the thing.
And he claimed that he heard some shots, and then he heard the commanding officer of whatever squadron it was order that pilot off of that channel and onto another.
And apparently the pilot was screaming that he'd hit it, and it looked like it was going down before the channel was changed.
Now, you know, I'm beginning to think, based on the volume of calls and reports, Robert, that within the military, this is, you know, you don't want to say common, but so common that we can sit here and get story after story after story after story like this.
And so it makes rather ludicrous the armed services claim that whatever UFOs are, they are not a threat to national security.
But I have a suspicion that at certain levels of government, we may know something.
That these guys are not really dangerous.
That they are not here in a malevolent or a hostile sense.
And that maybe that's the answer.
That we know that there is no real threat to national security.
I think the biggest threat to national security is the damn lying, the cover-up, and the damage to the Constitution.
I suspect there are people in the Air Force who know that these things are real, and they know that they're here, and they probably discern that they are not a real threat to national security.
But I think the real threat to the country is what's being done to the Constitution, and the fact that government has literally institutionalized lying.
That's the thing that ticks me off the most.
Even so badly that NASA has been told with in-house memorandums how to lie and violate the Freedom of Information Act.
Well, I would not regard them as a real threat, but missing missiles, melted warheads, I'm sure that anybody at the highest level of the military or NSA or whatever, they would regard that as a threat.
And if we weren't when we went in, we were certainly so when we came out.
And that's the way they look at these things.
There's a brilliant scientist by the name of Bergen, who used to work for NASA, who is now living in retirement in England and has written an incredible book called The Ringmakers of Saturn.
And in that book of Bergens is our actual photographs that were taken of Saturn and some of the stuff that was picked up and photographed near Saturn is absolutely mind-boggling.
And Bergen's book, and you have to get it from England, you sure as hell can't find it in this country.
And the minute NASA saw these things in photos, their immediate response was, oh, this has got to be a threat.
Because these objects were so damn big that they couldn't imagine anything that large out there being anything but a threat.
But again, you know, I think that there are people in government who realize that if they were a real threat, it would have been over a long time ago.
Okay, one of the things that I heard very clearly from you earlier tonight, Robert, was that you're beginning to reassess yourself the way you think all of this can be broken open.
And you're beginning to come to possibly the same conclusion that Assiseti has and that I have, and that is that we are not going to accomplish this through the purely through the constitutional process.
In other words, by applying pressure to Washington.
Art, I find that rather disappointing for me to have reached this point because I was a great believer in the constitutional process.
And I thought that bunch of guys in Washington could really bring this about.
But I have run into so damn many stone walls and so many top people in the Senate and the House who don't want to get within 10 yards of this thing.
And I've almost begun to give up on the constitutional process.
And then I've begun to realize, after I've been seeing the things like Phil Kropp and some of the other reports we've got from the Stargate International network, that this is happening all over the world.
Robert, suppose I were an NSA official and I came and I knocked on your door and I said, look, Robert, you're right.
We are in contact.
We've been in contact for some time.
But I'm going to ask your cooperation, Robert, because we have studies and we know for a fact that the information, if revealed to the American people, would cause such disruption socially, economically, politically, in every way you can imagine, that there would be many people hurt and it would be very disruptive.
And we are simply not quite prepared yet to release the information.
Well, I'd probably invite him in for a beer, and I would show him the material that I have, and I would show him the indications that I've gotten from Stargate, that the people are not that damn frantic, that the people are farther along in this area than their government realizes, that the common person out there, Art, is a hell of a lot brighter than their government has ever realized.
and I speak out fluently and I travel all over the damn place and I have had no one run screaming hysterically from the auditorium.
Well, I've heard from an awful lot of separate sources, just not Robert O'Dean, not about the melting, mind you, of the warhead, but of incidents in which things did hover over silos and, in fact, did shut down missiles.
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Well, there's a lot of unexplained things happened to those systems.
You know, the electronics in them are old, but still, you know, there's some things you just can't explain.
But as far as that particular, the melting of the warhead and whatnot, I don't think that actually occurred, though.
I'm actively considering exactly what you're saying.
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Well, in my opinion, you know how art right now is imitating life, what with the movies, imitating exactly what's going on in actual political structure.
What you're saying, I think, is very dramatically illustrating what we've been talking about all night, and that is, as he points out, who cares about Iraq?
But the minute they begin acquiring weapons of mass destruction, and they've already, of course, demonstrated the will to use them.
Look what they did to the Kurds.
They gassed them.
Then we take notice.
Israel takes notice.
Even other Arab countries nervously take notice.
And if necessary, action.
We take action.
Now, when you expand the scale and you consider the world is armed with weapons capable of utterly destroying itself, if somebody was watching, and I'll draw a line under if, they would take a very active interest in our capability, the Russians' capability, probably the Chinese and the Indians and the Pakistanis and anybody else who has nuclear devices.
So I think what he just said was a very, very good demonstration, illustration of why somebody, if they are there, if underlined, would be taking a very active interest in us.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Hi.
Hi.
I had a pretty good feeling about why you were a little bit troubled looking up Warmwood in the Bible.
And of course, you can read about how it will poison all the water.
That's right.
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Yeah, yeah.
I've been listening to your show for off and on for about two years, but pretty heavily within the last couple of months, a buddy of mine turned me on to your show.
And it was cool.
I didn't know that too many other people liked Cusco until I heard your show.
Yeah, because I was listening to your show on real-time audio, and then I realized that you were playing flute wars.
In other words, if something got me, then I would hope that there'd be a hundred more that would take up the slack.
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I was just watching First Contact Star Trek, and when they went back in time, the first guy who invented the warp drive, I kind of see you as like that.
You know, you're like the father of releasing all this information.
I mean, look in California, where they have had ballot initiatives, and the voters have said by initiative, which is a legitimate process in California, that they want the following.
Inevitably, the courts come along and invalidate the vote.
Now, what I'm suggesting to you is that there does not need to be actual count fraud, though there is some of it.
There doesn't need to be, because by and large, the whole damn thing is so rigged for incumbents, for the ones already in power, that it's not needed.
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The process, where it all began, is the process of feeding cards into a computer is the perfect prescription for stupid sheep.
I know you're a Collier booster and a vote fraud person, and I know that's a track you keep going down repeatedly in call after call, and I'm only resistant to the degree that I think it is not as widespread as James Collier, and obviously yourself feel that it is.
Let me repeat, it does not need to be.
It simply doesn't need to be.
It would be an enormous job, in the first place, to have the kind of a level of fraud that you are suggesting occurs in elections.
But more importantly, as I keep saying, they don't need to.
It's all rigged anyway.
The system ensures that.
International line, you're on the air.
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It's Ross Dow, Australia, with another little report for you.
Well, it is not rare here, but we have had more tornadoes this year than in any year in my living memory.
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Yes, we normally get cyclones which come off the ocean, which is up north.
Now, Victoria is down the south part of Australia.
A little place called Wonthaggy has had a little visit and was ripped up by a small tornado, which is a bit of an eye-opener for us.
And we've got another little matter to ask you, Art, is that there's been recent reports about the Leonid meteor storm turning up on the 17th of November.
Well, it's strange you would say that because it is putting at risk about 500 satellites that transfer funds overnight as we sleep from market to market.
And a lot of those satellites could suddenly go Sure.
All right.
Hold on.
And they love it at the network when I do this.
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The End
Ooh, you can dance, you can die Having a job of your life Ooh, see that girl, watch that scene Big and starting queen
From the Kingdom of Nigh, this is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell.
From east of the Rockies, call ART at 1-800-825-5033.
West of the Rockies, including Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico, at 1-800-618-8255.
First-time callers may reach ART at Area Code 702-727-1222.
You know, tonight's program was very, very dramatic to the degree that it has me sitting here thinking, one of these nights we are going to tread upon ground that we should not be treading upon.
Anyway, living up there a couple times, you know, you see weird stuff during the forest, lights flashing and stuff like that.
A lot of people blow it off and like, oh, well, maybe it's just the aurora, you know.
But living in the area that I did live in, knowing that there's no houses in that area, it's just nothing but forest, and seeing flashing lights and white and green and red lights.
Well, those are all lights that could be associated with aurora.
So I'm not exactly sure what you have said.
I would, however, enjoy talking to somebody in Alaska right now.
Because with the activity on the sun, and by the way, we have had now two class M flares and a new class X flare, along with three apparent ejecta from the sun.
So we are about to go into another intense magnetic storm, period of magnetic storm, one that could disrupt the very broadcast you're listening to right now.
It will also cause a remarkable display of aurora in Alaska.
And my guess would be that in the last, oh, I don't know, week or two, the people in Alaska have been getting quite a treat.
Matter of fact, let me open my lines for Alaska.
Would somebody from Alaska please call the West of the Rockies line or any of the other lines?
Calling Alaska.
Let's see if my guess is correct.
Would everybody else hang up, please?
Hang up?
Hang up the phone.
On all the other lines.
Alaska only for just a few minutes.
I'm quite curious if what we know or think is true with regard to what's going on in the sun.
There should be some remarkable aurora reports coming from Fairbanks and Anchorage.
I had to reveal something to you that, I don't know.
Do you believe that President Reagan was given the Alzheimer's disease or is faking his disease to keep public from asking him any questions about what he knows about UFOs?
I was in the military in the U.S. Navy, and I worked for IUSS, which is integrated undersea surveillance system.
And we were in the Atlantic.
Anyway, the main thing is I have a hard time believing the stories about these underwater vehicles.
For those two years, basically we monitored all the Atlantic, and I worked in a quality assurance where I would review minute by minute all the data that we took in.
So it was just a little bit hard for me to believe, especially something that size moving at the speed it was, not to be detected by anyone.
Well, it's hard for everybody to believe, and what they said was that it did not move undetected, that it was detected.
You're saying, though, that you never saw it or heard about it.
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Right.
So, I mean, I don't know what years he was talking about, but at least for the two years that I was watching the Atlantic, if anything would have been moving, I would have been privy to that knowledge.
There's about 1,500 people in the Navy that did the job that I do.
Yeah, and people like Richard Hoagland, ufologists, who have used this as fuel for the UFO theories, blah, blah, blah, you know, say that NASA must have done something to the pictures.
Well, they have certainly used it for fuel to suggest that there are artificial objects at Sidonia, but Richard has never been identified, as far as I know, as a ufologist.
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Well, then he should be ticked off.
But, you know, like you hear about that explosion in space, you know, as soon as I heard you say it, the news was delivered.
Pictures, except, you know, I know I can go to the internet and look them up on your website, but besides that, they're nowhere to be found, and nobody's talking about it.
Well, I'm sorry, too, because you're coming to a conclusion not based on facts, but based on the media that you just finished telling me is full of baloney.
You, on the one hand, admitted that the news media was full of crap, but on the other hand, used the reports of that news media to declare photographs, which you incidentally haven't seen yet, to be fake.