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Feb. 12, 1998 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - David John Oates - Reverse Speech

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	From the Kingdom of Nine, across the country, around the world and throughout the universe,
	this is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the CBC Radio Network.
	With regard to Iraq, somebody sent me something a little earlier today that I thought was rather catchy.
	And I would like to try and play it for you.
	Let's see if this works.
	We should kill him.
	Would be brilliant.
	Just to kill him!
	Let's hunt him down!
	And shoot him in the head!
	Let's beat the crap out of Saddam!
	Let's hunt him down!
	And shoot him in the head!
	And ball the racket to the ground!
	Let's hunt him down!
	And shoot him in the head!
	Let's beat the crap out of Saddam!
	Let's hunt him down!
	And shoot him in the head!
	And ball the racket to the ground!
	Don't screw with the USA Don't screw with the USA
	Now if he does attack, we're gonna drop a stack Of missiles on Iraq, and get him off our back
	and if he won't let us look for all this herb gas, the US Army is gonna kick him in the ass!
	We should destroy, should destroy that Iraqi boy!
	Let's hunt him down and shoot him in the head! Let's beat the crap out of Saddam!
	Let's hunt him down and shoot him in the head and bomb Iraq into the ground!
	Let's hunt him down and shoot him in the head! Let's beat the crap out of Saddam!
	That comes to us from an anonymous source over the internet.
	That was a wave file and it was sort of catchy.
	I really couldn't resist playing that for you.
	The Mars Lander is to carry a microphone in 1999.
	People on Earth will have the opportunity for the first time ever to listen for life on Mars, as well as look for it, when NASA launches its next mission to Mars in January of 99.
	The Mars Polar Lander will have aboard a microphone to hear wind dust and electrical discharges and any other movement.
	Any other movement.
	One way or another, the microphone may prove the next best thing to actually being there.
	And one has to wonder what the first sounds from Mars will be.
	I just got a fax from Peter Davenport at the National UFO Reporting Center.
	He says, Art, I was intrigued here tonight that NASA is considering putting a mic on the next probe to Mars.
	However, we may already have heard from Mars by radio.
	I attach the following article, August 28, 1924, issue of the New York Times.
	That long ago.
	The development of a photographic film record of radio signals during a period of about 29 hours while Mars was closest to the Earth has deepened the mystery of the dots and dashes reportedly heard at the same time by widely separated operators of powerful stations.
	C. Francis Jenkins of Washington, inventor of the device which he calls the Radio Photo Message Continuous Transmission Machine, was induced by Dr. David Todd, Professor Emeritus of Astronomy of Amherst, and the organizer of the International Listening In for Signals from Mars, to take the record.
	This film, 30 feet long and 6 inches wide, discloses in black on white They fairly, get this, regular arrangement of dots and dashes along one side, but on the other side, almost evenly spaced intervals are curiously jumbled in groups, each taking the form of a, brace yourself, crudely drawn face.
	Says Mr. Jenkins, I don't think the results have anything to do with Mars, quite likely.
	Sound recorded, sounds recorded are the result of heterodyning or interfering radio signals.
	The film, though, shows a repetition of intervals at about a half hour of what does appear to be a man's face.
	He said, it's a freak.
	We cannot explain it.
	All right.
	David John Oates.
	David Oates.
	David Oates is A very interesting person.
	He is Australian, originally.
	David has himself a speech impediment, which you will hear he stutters a little bit, and that led him into a study of something called reverse speech.
	And rather than explain that myself, I would much prefer to allow David To tell us the short 101 of what is reverse speech.
	David?
	Hi, how are you?
	I'm very well.
	Good.
	Alright.
	Reverse speech 101.
	Well, the basic theory I'm pursuing is that the process of language is two-fold.
	As the human brain is constructing the sounds of speech, it's putting those sounds together in such a way that we are delivering two messages at the same time.
	The first message is Forwards, which is obviously how I'm talking to you now, and that is how we hear everyone talk in normal, everyday conversation, and that is coming from the conscious mind.
	We are consciously choosing what we say when we speak.
	Does that mean like left or right brain, David?
	That means, according to my theory, forward speech is coming from the left brain hemisphere.
	The actual words that we use Constructed by the left brain, linguists will tell you that the emotional expressions in speech come from the right brain.
	Now, I claim that the emotional expressions in speech that are coming from the right brain are constructed and put together in such a way that they're actually creating a separate communication backwards.
	And quite literally, a speech is recorded and played in reverse once every And it's emotional.
	It's usually emotional.
	these very clear phrases, some of them as clear as I'm talking to you now, that is coming
	Oh yes.
	from the unconscious mind.
	So forward speech is left brain and conscious, reverse speech is right brain and unconscious.
	And it's emotional, it's usually emotional.
	Oh yes.
	And you don't have any control over it either.
	No, you have no control over it.
	Well, you have no control over the content of it.
	You can actually control the frequency of it.
	It's interesting to note that the more left brain one becomes in their speech, the more they can drop out any emotional content at all.
	The reversals drop off fairly substantially to, you know, where on average they're once every 10 seconds, they'll drop down to maybe once every 45 or 60 seconds.
	So reverse speech is like a gigantic Uh, McGungus truth teller.
	Uh, yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That is exactly how I would explain it.
	Um, on one level, um, you know, when you get down to the deeper levels, which, which, which I really don't get into, into the air much, where it gets into the unconscious mind and metaphors and archetypes, but that's too complex for what we're going to do.
	It is.
	And what we like is what we can hear, uh, since, since we don't understand the rest of reverse speech.
	However, I would like to say this to you.
	I had a call the other night during, I don't know, one of the shows I was doing and somebody said, Oh, he tells you what is going to be said every time.
	So of course you hear it.
	You could do that with any jumble.
	And I naturally jumped up and defended you and said, that's bull.
	We put jumble on the air before and you can't understand a word of it.
	Right.
	Yeah, well, you know, I've done that many, many times on the air.
	If it's not there, you can't hear it.
	You know, I've done control phrases where I've played a reversal and told you to hear something different than what is there, and you can't hear it.
	And you can't hear it, that's right.
	And I've played gibberish as well that has nothing and said, this is what it says, and you can't hear it.
	The reason why I tell people up front on the air, well, it's really primarily a time factor.
	We've got so many reversals to get through.
	Reversals have a very unique sound to them.
	They have this melodious sing-song, ethereal-type tone.
	And when we start playing, I want the listeners to particularly notice this very unique sound.
	And it's like trying to learn anything new.
	It takes a while for the ears to adjust to it.
	If anyone's ever walked into a ham radio shack for the first time and hears this single sideband signal, it's very difficult for the newcomer to decipher them.
	So that's how I defend what I do.
	In my training classes when I'm teaching students, it takes a good six months for the new student To tune their ears to hear them without being prompted beforehand.
	And there are two things here that you should know.
	One, David's reverse speech is actually officially recognized by the government as a legitimate career field, right?
	That is correct.
	We have our own occupational code by the Department of Labor.
	We got them about a year ago now.
	Also my Training School is now officially recognized by the State of California, which is where I live, as a post-secondary educational institution.
	Wow!
	And plus, folks, he's been suggested to be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for his work now.
	That should add a little up-front understanding to how serious this really is.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think people get this impression that we're this backyard pseudoscience, and maybe many years ago we were, but it's like any new field.
	It takes a while to get accepted, and the process of acceptance is accelerating very, very rapidly.
	You know, when I first went public with this, there was a lot of skepticism around whether these are actually there and the standard thing, you know, he's suggesting, it's imagination.
	Interestingly enough, most of that skepticism over whether it exists has faded now, at least with the areas where I'm very well known.
	That's it.
	All right.
	and now i have a lot of the main uh... sure if we can hear these writers that
	to the really mean what david says it makes and uh... you know i mean it's
	just the ongoing evolution of any new field will be questions
	uh... proven that we'll just keep on researching i don't pretend to have all
	the answers but um...
	i've got fourteen years up on anyone else but that's it alright now the obligatory
	uh... and we do this at the beginning of every show and take some of the old
	originals just a few to give everybody an idea and we have a lot of new
	listeners of course all over the place in canada and all over
	Right.
	And they've never heard any reverse speech, so we give them the, uh, the first, uh, several classics, just to get your ears sort of tuned and ready for what you're gonna hear.
	Okay, well, the very first one I'll play, the very first one I nearly always play, is also the very first reversal I ever found.
	Normal human speech, and this is Neil Armstrong taking his famous first steps onto the lunar surface.
	Here it is forward.
	That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
	And you run that in reverse, and he says backwards, man will spacewalk.
	I'm going to run at about three different speeds for you.
	And again.
	And once more.
	And anybody who can't hear manual spacewalk doesn't have ears.
	I know.
	That is so clear.
	And it was very interesting the way I found that.
	I was just actually running a whole A compilation of famous radio broadcasts backwards, and something that is a very clear phrase.
	Actually, the very first two words I heard were spacewalk.
	I didn't hear the man will to the window a few times, and I had no idea what was on the forward dialogue, and suddenly reversed this track to hear Neil Armstrong walking on the moon, and I'm going, what on earth is that?
	Yep, let me do this at the beginning, too.
	Anybody out there with a tape recorder or with a computer can take these same sound clips And reverse them at normal speed and hear exactly what's being played for you on the air tonight.
	End of story.
	If you don't believe it, try it for yourself.
	Right?
	Oh, sure.
	Anyone can try it.
	And you'll get the same thing.
	You know, it was amazing.
	I was on the San Diego News this morning talking about all of this.
	And they took some emails in.
	And we got an email in from an audio engineer who said, well, you know, this stuff is very easy to fake.
	You can just tweak the sound and, you know, cut and paste words here and there.
	Look, I warranty that's not going on.
	I've reversed myself.
	I know.
	I know it's the exact thing.
	And anybody who doesn't believe it ought to shut their mouth, save their email and or fax paper for me, and just try it before you open your mouth.
	Oh yeah, I can assure you these are straight backwards.
	I've not touched the tracks at all.
	If I was to do that, I would have been rejected as a fraud ages ago.
	You know, you cannot say this is David Oates faking for tracks.
	That's right, that's right.
	I can assure you of that.
	All right, now there is the world of babies and uh... this one folks will blow you away because david maintains and will now prove that children before they can speak it forward uh... when they still are just doing baby talk of the uh... however whatever babies do bob bob bob bob bob boo boo uh... actually produce reverse speech another words they have learned in their right brain
	Uh, before they've learned in their left brain to say it forward, and we can prove that, and he'll prove it to you right now.
	Okay, well the first one I'll play is my daughter at 10 months of age.
	She's in the bathtub.
	She's trying to pick up a cup.
	She can't pick it up, so she reaches out to me for help.
	We'll run it forward first.
	Right.
	What?
	Total baby gibberish.
	Absolutely.
	We run it backwards and we hear three clear words.
	There is also a faint word as well.
	The three clear words are David, which is obviously my name, followed by help me.
	And if you listen very hard, there's a very quick please just before the help me.
	So it's actually David, please help me.
	But the clear words are David, help me.
	And here it is.
	Help me.
	I will, I will forever tell you.
	She is saying, David, help me, David.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, let's run that again one more time.
	Yeah, and listen to the ethereal sound, folks.
	It's sort of as though it's coming from the ether, which I believe it is.
	Yeah, it's such a classic sound.
	Yep.
	David, please help me.
	As a matter of fact, I hear, David, please help me, David.
	Right.
	I can hear, certainly hear the please that David's got me trying.
	Let's just do it one more time.
	Alright.
	Oh yeah, right at the very end.
	At the very end, David, very end.
	Well, I'm listening for the obvious words, you know.
	Alright, the other one I love so much is the one where you've got the microphone right in your child's face.
	I've got that pulled up right now.
	I'm chasing around the room with the tape player.
	she suddenly sees this tape player and reaches out for it.
	Now bear in mind everybody this is a child uh... with a tape player right in front of its face
	Now, what is a child with something new in front of it likely to say?
	Here you go.
	Okay, well, let's just play it.
	See if people can hear it.
	Okay.
	And for those who missed it, it says, what's that?
	Yeah, what's that?
	Give it to me at rigorous speed again.
	Okay.
	And listen, let me do something interesting, just to illustrate a point here.
	I'm going to run it forwards and backwards, and I want you to notice the forward, she says, aga, a definite G. But when you reverse it, where's the G gone?
	When you're looking into a, see, a lot of people will sometimes, they will try to analyze the letters and the words phonetically and try to reverse that.
	Right.
	It doesn't work that way.
	We're reversing sound, not words.
	Exactly.
	And it's a whole different world backwards.
	Let's run that forwards.
	Notice the G forwards.
	No G backwards.
	Backwards.
	What's that?
	Clear as can be.
	What's that?
	Quite amazing.
	Let's look at some other oddities of reverse speech.
	One of my favorite soundtracks nowadays is a fire tape.
	We had a house fire back in April of last year.
	This is a classic illustration of a high emotional aspects of reverse speech and I'm in my office, I'm
	recording a session with a client, my secretary runs in the room and says, David, the house is
	on fire.
	Senses of class images, senses what?
	Yes?
	The house is on fire!
	What?
	The house is on fire!
	Okay, obviously highly emotional.
	Yes.
	And she's obviously telling the truth, because in reverse it says practically the same thing.
	The house is on fire.
	Our house is on fire.
	There is no use of us.
	No!
	We are not someone's!
	And again.
	There is no use of us.
	No!
	We are not someone's!
	That, to me, is impossible.
	I understand that it is what it is, David, but how can the same thing be said in reverse as is said forward?
	It has to reach some sort of emotional pitch that you can barely imagine for that to occur, I guess.
	That's the point I'm making.
	High emotion.
	Now, folks, you've heard what reverse speech is.
	When we come back, we're going to begin to examine things you have not heard before, or if you have, very rarely.
	The world of reverse speech with David John Oates.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Hey, check out what somebody sent me.
	They sent me a computer file of this.
	Talk about ratcheting up old memories.
	W-A-B-C!
	There it is.
	That's one of the old W-A-B-C.
	I hope they're listening back there, because I want the full set of W-A-B-C IDs.
	Remember the ones?
	Now, I as a practice don't sing on this program, but the ones that went 77, W-A-B-C.
	Remember that?
	And then there's one other this ought to jog some memories in the Middle West You know, I have really got I'm collecting these so anybody out there who's got other Big ones get them to me and we're gonna sort of I don't know We're gonna play them from time to time on the air just for memories.
	I Alright, back to David John Oates.
	David, welcome back.
	Hi, how are ya?
	Um, I thought we might move on to, uh, straight on to the Clinton, uh, sex scandal stuff, if that's okay with you, unless you've got anything else you'd rather move to.
	No, no, no, no.
	Sex scandal, sex scandal.
	Everyone likes sex scandals, don't they?
	Yes.
	Um, let's look at a couple of verses on Hillary to start off with.
	This is her famous interview on the Today Show, where she made her, uh, comment about a right-wing conspiracy.
	Ah, yes.
	And, uh, here she is, uh, talking about some of the accusations that her and Bill have received over the years.
	You know, initially, when this first started, and I would be accused of something, or my husband would be accused of something, I would be really upset.
	And just to satisfy some of the people out there who don't want me to prompt beforehand, I'm not going to do this very many times during the program, but I will with this one.
	This is such a clear reverse.
	I want to play this out, and see if you can hear one or two key words in this, okay?
	Yeah, far away.
	Here we go.
	He blew it with a hammering it.
	What have you got there?
	Um... Something... It almost sounded like hammering it.
	Something hammering it.
	Exactly correct.
	It says, evil lips are hammering it.
	So she actually believes her statement about right-wing conspiracy.
	Evil lips are hammering it.
	Let's hear it again.
	Let's run it again.
	Evil lips are hammering it.
	Oh yeah.
	Evil lips are hammering it.
	Evil lips are hammering it.
	So there you go.
	No prompting.
	And you heard it.
	But let's think about what it says for a second.
	Evil lips...
	Oh, that's the way I would interpret it, too.
	it, that might indicate that she's in effect validating that there's something there and
	it's getting hammered and hammered and hammered.
	That's the way I would interpret that.
	Oh, that's the way I would interpret it too.
	Yeah, it's being hammered home.
	I don't think she's denying it.
	The reversal doesn't deny that these accusations are real, but it's also saying people out there are picking this stuff up and running with it.
	You know, it's my view that if all of this is true, I think that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have an understanding.
	Oh, well, I think that's probably so too.
	And put it that way, there's a couple of reversals that indicate that.
	Let's look at just one of them.
	A little bit down in clarity, but it just, I wasn't going to play it, but it just illustrates the point you just made.
	There isn't any fire.
	Because, think of what we've been through for the last six years, and think of everything we've been accused of.
	And, you know, initially, when this first started, and I would be accused of something, or my husband would be accused of something.
	Backwards, she says, if you wreck, forgive it.
	In other words, if you mess up, if you cause a problem, you know, I'll forgive this.
	Yes, you're right.
	Yes, you're right, but isn't it?
	Okay?
	Right.
	Yeah, exactly right.
	Yes, you're right, but isn't it?
	if you were it sounds to me like if you wreck i forgive you or ronnie you exactly right
	if you're a picnic you know if you're a picnic
	Yes, you're right.
	Yeah, there you are.
	Yeah, so there is some understanding, I think, but also, too, a part of her doesn't like it as well.
	Well, sure.
	This one here actually caused me, this one touched my heart when I heard it.
	She's asked about, Bill Clinton made a statement in the 9260 Minutes interview that he has caused pain to the marriage.
	Yes.
	And Hillary's being asked to comment on that again.
	If he were to be asked today, Mrs. Clinton, Do you think he would admit that he again has caused pain in this marriage?
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	And he shouldn't.
	You know, we've been married for 22 years, Matt, and I have learned a long time ago that the only people who count in any marriage are the two that are in it.
	Now, she sounds quite confident forward, but in the reverse, you can actually hear some emotional pain there, back when she says, I am so used.
	And you can hear the pain in her voice.
	I am so used.
	Wow.
	I am so used.
	I am so used You know, I understand that they may have an understanding, which doesn't bother me.
	Right.
	But the one I feel sorry for is Chelsea.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, she's such an innocent... Here she is at college.
	Man, it must be rough every day at school.
	Yeah.
	You know, I actually found a reverse one, Bill, that I don't have to play tonight about Chelsea.
	Something about... Gee whiz, I think the reverse was that Chelsea's pain was... But it wasn't clear enough to play on the air, so I didn't.
	So I didn't dump it.
	So there you go, there you have Hillary.
	Let's move on to, well first of all, let's move on to the, I want to play two reversals on the White House Press Secretary, Mike McCurry.
	This is him commenting on the whole affair, right when the whole thing broke.
	This was three weeks ago, now a press conference he gave, he's trying to avoid the issue, he says, you've all got the statement, that speaks for itself.
	I'm not going to force the statement.
	You all got the statement I made earlier, and it speaks for itself.
	And backwards he says, damn him, this is ugly and a mess.
	Damn him, it's a ugly and a mess.
	And again.
	Damn him, it's a ugly and a mess.
	The real thoughts of a press secretary.
	Oh yeah, it's like, oh my gosh, here we go again, almost, you know.
	And now a week later, he's had a chance to recover from this a little bit.
	And he's talking to us about some of the strategies the lawyers are making.
	I don't think the President is doing anything in particular behind the scenes, but the lawyers are working to, you know, assemble the material that has to be assembled in response to the Office of Independent Counsel.
	And that's why he says, we will solve the mess and they will get her.
	And notice the emphasis on the word solve.
	He's deadly serious.
	Well, wait a minute.
	We will solve the mess and what?
	And they will get her.
	In other words, they're after Monica.
	Okay?
	Yep.
	Okay, so here we go.
	Notice the word solve.
	He's really emphasizing this.
	We're surreal with the new scenario, Boatcatcher.
	That just says we'll solve, not we will solve.
	Which brings up an interesting point.
	Someone actually rang the office today and asked me to talk about, on the air, reversal checkpoints.
	I actually have very strict research protocols that we follow through before I will quote any reversal.
	And one is the syllable count must be correct.
	In other words, that says we'll solve, which is one syllable, as opposed to we will solve.
	I'm looking for spacings at the beginning, at the spacings between each word.
	Sure.
	Also, reversals tend to have a definite space out of the gibberish.
	I'm watching out for the beginnings of endings of words, the consonant-vowel sounds, and I'm also looking for that continuous melodious tonal flow that is characteristic for all reversals.
	So, that's just part of the research protocols we follow.
	There's several others, but I just wanted to get that one out.
	Alright.
	The more of that you do, the better off you are, because a lot of people are trying to reach some kind of understanding about reverse speech, and this really explains it.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	You know, of course, part of the criticism, too, is imagination.
	Unless these protocols are followed, you really, for the new researchers, there is a tendency to want to hear what you want to hear.
	Well, that's where I was going.
	And I think I asked you this last time you were on, but if I were to take a long presidential speech, and I were to sit down with an agenda, and I wanted to make the president look good, and I wanted to spin this thing in reverse so he sounded great, could I do it?
	If you're following the research protocols, I really don't think you can.
	I mean, you're looking for what is there, and I document what is there.
	I've gone into a tape with the one thought in mind, you know, because I'm human, I have my own biases, you know, and I've gone into tapes with thinking one thing to find something completely different.
	That's happened to me on more than one occasion.
	Not so with the Clinton sex tapes.
	I must admit, I went in with one thought, It was validated.
	Same thing everybody else is thinking.
	Yeah, actually when we come to the Zahi Hawass reversal later on the evening I had so many phone calls about this.
	People are very anxious to hear this and I've been told about NASA and CIA, NASA's involved in the CIA and a whole bunch of other stuff and I was looking for that in his reversals and found no reference to NASA, no reference to CIA and I was trying to Good.
	Good, I said.
	So there's one where I was looking for something and could not find it.
	So...
	Good.
	Sorry?
	Good, I said.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	So we'll get on to that when we get to Zahi Hawass.
	All right, what about the President himself?
	Okay, well, the first verse I'm going to play is right off the top.
	It's a pretty rough one to start off with, and I've actually got an appropriate word bleeped out on this.
	Oh, you do?
	Yes, I do.
	Our President speaks in that sort of language, in reverse?
	Horrifying, isn't it?
	Here he is.
	This is about a minute before his official emphatic denial, where he was pounding the podium.
	You know, I did not do this.
	And interestingly enough, on that actual section, even though it was highly emotional, I found no reversals that I could quote.
	There is one up on my site, but I wouldn't want to play it on the air.
	Incidentally, my site address, for those who want to go there, all these reversals are up there.
	Thank you, Bill White.
	the dot com which also is available through my website as a link right now
	right as it always is yet there's a link to your side so here we have a very irreversible the very uh...
	appropriate word bleeped out this occurred a minute before his emphatic denial
	thank you bill white i'll talk more about your contribution in a moment but
	it is truly remarkable and i think brandon depper back for giving us a living
	reading example And this is actually a very denigrating reversal, quite
	frankly.
	I think he's, the whole sex scandal is on his mind.
	He's thinking about it and backwards.
	He says here, the mama in the sheet, blank her.
	And the blank, well, it's the standard.
	Um, we understand.
	Yep.
	Okay, so here we go.
	Making sure I've got the edited version up.
	Yes, I do.
	Oh, I messed up the other day.
	I actually played it on the air.
	Okay, so here we go.
	I'm on my way to sheep.
	Okay.
	Oh my, my, my.
	You know what?
	The bleep almost didn't quite cover, I mean it covered enough of it legally, thank you.
	I heard it, David.
	I heard it.
	Oh, a very clear reversal.
	Here we have another one.
	This is a mystery.
	I always like to put a couple of mysteries out every now and then on your program.
	If anyone has the answer to this reversal, please fax me.
	Now, don't call my main hotline number.
	Fax me.
	My fax number is 760.
	7-3-2-0-2-2-9.
	7-6-0-7-3-2-0-2-2-9.
	Everybody facts, David.
	Okay.
	Now, here he is saying he can't talk about this because of the judge's order.
	I think it will become apparent as this case plays itself out that I did in fact do that, but I am not going to discuss that.
	The judge has given us strict orders not to discuss anything related to that case.
	Now that was, he says, had sex with the NORGON madam.
	Now, I don't know what NORGON is.
	That's my big question.
	I've had this verse on my site for a while.
	Hit me with that again.
	Had sex with the what?
	NORGON.
	Or could be Oregon.
	Someone says Oregon, but I'm hearing NORGON.
	N-O-R-G-O-N.
	Well, let me hear it.
	Okay.
	And then we can talk a little bit more about it.
	Right.
	Had sex with the NORGON madam.
	Wow.
	Had sex with the NORGON madam.
	And again.
	I mean, very clear reversal.
	It's very clear?
	All right.
	Had sex?
	You know, Norgon is the last name.
	I did a search on the net for it.
	There's several references to it as someone's last name.
	I thought it might be a town in Arkansas or Washington or Washington, D.C.
	I couldn't find any references for it.
	If there's some astute private investigator out there, I would love for you to get a hold of this and I would like to find out what this means.
	And the madam reversal is fairly obvious there too.
	Okay, let's move on to a couple of others.
	Here we have a very key reversal, gets into his emotional state right when this controversy first broke.
	There is no improper relationship and I intend to cooperate with this inquiry.
	But that is not true.
	And once again we can hear his emotional state in this.
	He says backwards, I see that we're broken.
	And you can actually hear his voice crack on the word broken.
	I see that we're broken.
	I see that we're All of the above.
	Yeah, this is right when it first broke.
	And if you actually watch the interview on the PBS, the Jim Lehrer Show, you can actually see, um, I don't know whether he was prepared for the question, but, uh, but his face was, uh, but he really tightened up.
	He looked horrified when he was first asked the question and, uh, he quickly recovered and then went into denying it.
	Oh, he, he looked like, uh, he had just been caught with the stolen candy.
	Oh, it was such a classic expression.
	He was horrified.
	Okay, let's look at a couple of other sex reversals.
	Then we want to look at maybe where this is going.
	Okay, oh yes.
	Okay, here we have, this is a present tense Reversal.
	There's been some rumors of so many women.
	I mean, what is there five or six we know about now?
	Maybe hundreds.
	Yeah?
	Anyways, a few.
	Okay, so here we go.
	He's still denying it.
	I'm just setting this one up.
	Hardly anyone's ever been subject to the level of attack I have.
	This reversal is a present tense.
	It says, now winning a lover, which makes me wonder he's wooing someone else in the scenes.
	And there's actually a voice spoken over it too, just quickly.
	So, but now winning a lover.
	No winning at all.
	OK.
	Now winning a lover is exactly what I heard.
	Present tense.
	OK.
	This reverse is a little bit tough to hear.
	That's called the Washington Lottery.
	The Washington Lottery?
	That's right.
	You win an intern.
	Oh, I see.
	And then she gets paid five million dollars, right?
	Oh, you heard that, huh?
	Oh, yeah, I did.
	I would love to do reversals on that one if he actually takes them up on that.
	Me too.
	Penthouse material I think.
	Okay, the next reversal is penthouse material.
	It's very difficult, you know.
	One of the things that people learn is you can charge people with all kinds of things.
	It's almost impossible to prove you're innocent.
	Okay, now listen carefully to this one.
	It's a long reversal.
	I've actually broken the reversal up.
	I've put a gap between a sentence just so it's easier to hear.
	Uh, and in reverse, uh, obvious reference to oral sex, he says, make her swallow.
	You trash an easy roll.
	But you're gonna have to listen carefully, okay?
	Make her swallow.
	You trash an easy roll.
	Make her swallow.
	You trash an easy roll.
	I heard it.
	Oh, God, yeah, I heard it.
	Okay, let's do it one more speed.
	Make her swallow.
	You trash an easy roll.
	You know, I've got to tell you, Art, I've been doing reversals in session work with my clients.
	For those who don't know, I have a therapeutic practice that I still maintain, despite all the incredible pressures on my time.
	I still manage to see my own clients occasionally, and I've dealt with people with sexual issues before.
	But I have not heard the level of this denigration.
	There's an attitude here that I don't like, like the mummer in the sheet, the trash, Make her swallow.
	It concerns me.
	It really does.
	I don't know what else to say about that.
	Except that I wonder if you were to get a look into the private sex lives of most Americans, you would find all kinds of little fetishes and personal preferences that, if exposed publicly like this, might tend to embarrass.
	What do you think?
	Oh, yes, I think so, too.
	I mean, there's feet, there's toes, there's, my God, it goes on and on.
	We'll be back.
	this is Coast to Coast AM.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	You're listening to a rebroadcast of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
	Uh, they're going to put a Mars, um, uh, microphone up there.
	The next Mars lander is going to have a microphone on it.
	And just in case we should hear something semi-intelligible, one has to wonder if David, uh, John Oates could reverse it and make some sense out of it.
	Try to come out like, we invade soon.
	Something like that.
	Ack, ack, ack.
	All right, David, welcome back.
	Hi, I'm here, all waiting.
	The wonderful, wacky world of reverse speech.
	Reversing Martian sounds, hey?
	That'll be interesting, wouldn't it?
	Yes.
	I found it very amusing that they landed right near Pahrump, Nevada.
	I'm sure you had many comments about that.
	David, they destroyed Pahrump.
	Oh, they did?
	Yes.
	Oh, dear.
	They destroyed Pahrump.
	I mean, the bandstand they had set up and the whole thing in Pahrump was utterly destroyed by beams of Horrible stuff.
	Anyway, it's... What a tragedy.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, here we are.
	We are talking about the President's scandal.
	President's sex life.
	Okay.
	Alright, well let's move on a little bit.
	I played Reversal when I was on your show a couple of weeks ago that caused significant controversy and I actually heard, I didn't hear the show, but I heard it was discussed on your show a couple of days after.
	Uh, let's, uh, this is, this gets into, uh, what is he going to do, do about all of this, to divert attention?
	Well, but, uh, of all the others, a lot of them were about serious matters, they just faded away.
	I'm not suggesting that they weren't serious matters.
	I don't mean, I just, all I can tell you is, I'll do my best to help them get to the bottom of it.
	Well, you can hear the dog wagging all the way there.
	Yeah, really.
	This, this reversal says, hell with the earth, see desert answers.
	And see, a lot of people have suggested that what this literally means is that he, in order to avert attention from this whole thing, he's going to go into Iraq.
	And people were saying this on the air.
	Absolutely.
	Based on this reversal before, and I emphasize before, the Iraqi situation really began to heat up again.
	So here it is.
	The hell with the Earth, the desert answers.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I never expect that second one.
	The hell with the Earth, the desert answers.
	Yep.
	Quite amazing.
	Hit it again, regular speed.
	Oh, regular speed.
	A little back we go.
	And here we go.
	The hell with the Earth, the desert answers.
	It pretty well speaks for itself.
	The hell with the Earth, the desert answers.
	And then I found him on a press conference a week or so later, just as the Iraqi situation was beginning, and this is actually... Actually, this reversal here is... I listened to your song, you know, let's shoot him in the head, and it reminded me of the reversal I'm about to play you.
	Here we go with the forward.
	There is more agreement than at first it appears about the necessity to push this thing through To the end.
	Talk about Iraq.
	And backwards he says, let's shoot to the assassin.
	Let's shoot to the assassin.
	Wow.
	Let's shoot to the assassin.
	And again.
	Let's shoot to the assassin.
	Oh my, that's clear.
	Exceptionally clear reversal.
	I guess he's talking about Saddam being the assassin.
	I'm sure there'll be some other opinions as to what that is.
	Yeah, shoot him in the head.
	Yeah.
	Actually, let's run that whole lot forwards and backwards again.
	I think it's a very significant reversal.
	I actually think he's going after Saddam himself.
	There is more agreement than at first it appears about the necessity to push this thing through to the end.
	Okay.
	Oh boy.
	I mean, there's no doubt over that one.
	No, there's no doubt.
	And everybody here should note that Reversals, an extremely high percentage of the time, are congruent.
	In other words, whatever is said in reverse, whether it reveals a lie or the truth, relates to the topic being discussed in forward language.
	Right?
	Yeah, I was just about to make exactly the same comment that you did.
	You've got to look at the contextual relationship here.
	I mean, he didn't say, let's shoot the assassin while he's denying the Monica Lewinsky charges.
	What do we get there?
	I had sex, you know, with the mummer in the sheep.
	Yes.
	And now we're looking at something different.
	OK, let's... I've still got a few more I want to quickly get through.
	All right.
	Some of them are quite concerning.
	Let's look at the State of the Union, first of all.
	We'll start off with a fairly tame one.
	He begins his... Interestingly enough, I've found very few reversals on the State of the Union.
	You know, he was in our speech and one would expect, I mean, even in a public broadcast, even if they're only carrying one per minute, one would expect that there'd be, you know, 60 reversals, but there was only about 15 that I could find that I was confident with.
	Which really surprised me.
	Not me.
	And the reason is that the State of the Union is actually pretty damn good.
	And so Clinton could really, you know, he could be very confident in what he was saying with regard to the State of the Union.
	It took him away from the Lewinsky thing for a little while.
	And he was being basically congruent.
	Plus, plus it was a speech.
	Right.
	Right.
	And all that is true.
	I'm just making a comment, you know.
	Alright, so he begins off by talking about the deaths of Walter Capps and Sonny Bono.
	In the past few weeks, they've both been eulogized.
	Tonight, I think we should begin by sending a message to their families and their friends that we celebrate their lives and give thanks for their service to our nation.
	And backwards he says, now friends, you're my friends.
	Now friends, you're my friends.
	I think he's just addressing the audience.
	It's a nice reversal to warm everyone up.
	Now, wow, very clear, but what does it mean?
	Oh, I think he's just addressing the audience. It's a nice reversal to warm everyone up.
	He's addressing the families of these two people, Walter Kepp and Sonny Bono, and you're my friends now.
	And Congress, you're my friends.
	He's right in the middle of this sex scandal, remember, and I think he's just trying to create rapport and empathy as he begins.
	When I've done this, we'll look at a couple of reversals on the Sonny Bono funeral too.
	Really interesting reversals on that one.
	Cher was in genuine grief.
	Of course.
	Okay.
	Now, this reversal here I'm about to play you is a total about-shift from now, friend, Joe, my friend.
	This is a very concerning reversal.
	It gets into the metaphoric stuff just a touch, but I apologize up front, but I think it's very significant.
	All right, folks.
	Metaphors are harder to understand.
	I understand that.
	All right.
	But this reversal chills me.
	Our leadership in the world is unrivaled.
	Ladies and gentlemen, the state of our union is strong.
	Now, where he says that leadership in the world is unrivaled, backwards he says, we'll vow the O.W.
	Nazi whirlwind.
	What?
	What, what, what?
	Say that again.
	We'll vow Nazi whirlwind.
	Now, Nazi is a word that is not common in reverse speech, certainly the first time I've heard it on Clinton.
	I presume it's a metaphor for aggression, single-mindedness, relentless.
	Whirlwind is a common metaphor referring to force.
	All right.
	So it's our force.
	And this reversal worries me.
	I mean, it really concerns me.
	I don't know what it means.
	But I got chills when I heard it.
	All right.
	Four Nazis for a win.
	Four Nazis for a win.
	And again.
	Four Nazis for a win.
	And see this, this, I can't help but flash the Iraqi situation.
	Is he going in?
	Is this on his mind?
	Are we going to go in with great aggression and force and mess up?
	Well, I think we're going to go in.
	Yeah, with great aggression and force.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, I wanted to run that.
	I'm sure some people will have some comments on that one.
	And, uh, okay, here he is, uh, talking about the, uh, he's getting on to the balanced budget, not quite yet.
	Rarely have Americans lived through so much change in so many ways in so short a time.
	Now, backwards he says, some m- some muscle fills the crime of the hill.
	Still more surf builds in the crime of the hill.
	Still more surf builds in the crime of the hill.
	And once more.
	Still more surf builds in the crime of the hill.
	Obviously talking about Capitol Hill.
	Of course.
	The crime.
	Well, you know, it speaks for itself, I think.
	And everything there is not as he would have us think it is or, you know, whatever.
	And it's pretty strong.
	Now, here he talks about the federal deficit being reduced to zero.
	Rarely have Americans lived through so much change in so many ways in so short a time.
	I'm sorry.
	I just pulled up the Same one again, okay.
	I was going to say premature reversal.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	Six presidents have come before you to warn of the damage deficits pose to our nation.
	Tonight I come before you to announce that the federal deficit, once so incomprehensibly large that it had 11 zeros, will be simply zero.
	And this one, he says, there's a federal effort to sign note.
	Now, a note is a loan, I guess, a bank loan.
	Oh, yes.
	I'm not too sure what this one means.
	It makes me wonder whether it's the zero deficit, as zero as he would make us believe, or are they financing funds somewhere?
	Okay, let's hear it.
	Okay.
	This is a federal effort to sign note.
	This is a federal effort to sign note.
	Wow.
	This is a federal effort to sign note.
	No.
	Oh, that's so clear.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, like, it makes me wonder whether the death of these zeros, he would have us believe it is.
	I'm not sure.
	OK, there we go.
	And then again, I say to people, how could you get any more congruent?
	Then that.
	Federal.
	Sign.
	Note.
	And you've actually got the word federal forwards in the word federal.
	That's right.
	Let me run that forwards again.
	Notice the word federal forwards.
	Six presidents have come before you to warn of the damage deficits pose to our nation.
	Tonight I come before you to announce that the federal deficit, once so incomprehensibly large... Yeah, I won't play the rest of it, but let's just... No, I got it.
	There's no question about it.
	That's amazing.
	Here's Reversal again.
	I mean, you know... This is the thing that really convinced me about Reversal when I first began, was this incredible contextual relationship.
	And, you know, I'm probably as skeptical as most people.
	It took me years.
	After you've heard enough of this, David, you've almost got to be in criminal denial not to believe there's something to it.
	Oh, I absolutely agree.
	I mean, and that's the point I came to.
	How can I deny this anymore?
	Grammatically correct sentences.
	Contextually related to the forward dialogue.
	I mean, the odds of that are incalculable.
	Very, very convincing.
	You're going to be on television again soon, right?
	Yeah, I'll be back on the Geraldo Show probably next week.
	We've tentatively set a date for the 18th.
	Hopefully a little bit longer than the last.
	Yeah, Geraldo, you better give him some time this time.
	Yeah, that would be nice.
	I was blown out expecting to be on there for Most of the show, I've got this little snippet right at the back, you know.
	It's not fair, and it gives everybody an opportunity to say what a total freak that is after they hear one reversal.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
	Bunch of baloney.
	Yeah, well, you'll never convince anyone with one reversal.
	That's right.
	That could be purely coincidence.
	Let's look at one more reversal in the State of the Union.
	This is a bit of a controversial reversal.
	Well, I've already started now, so let's play it.
	Some people are disagreeing with the interpretation on this, on what it says.
	But anyway, let's do it.
	If you want to disagree with me, this is the one to do it on.
	An America that has continued to rise through every age, against every challenge.
	A people of great works and greater possibilities.
	Who have always, always found the wisdom and strength to come together as one nation.
	Now, I've got this as saying, you might see a war, see a war, but I've had a lot of people say it says, see a wall, see a wall, but I'm not hearing the L on the... Well, let's hear it.
	OK.
	Would not fear war, fear war.
	Well, you know, it sounds like war, but only if one of the Kennedys was saying it.
	Oh, really?
	It's kind of got that...
	A Bostonese accent to it, so I'm not sure.
	Yeah, well, I can't hear the L, and you know, when I found it, it seemed fairly obvious to me what it was saying, but then people point out, well, David, you're an Australian, and you hear with Australian accents, but... Yeah, so what do you know?
	Yeah, really, I've only been doing this for 14 years.
	I don't know much.
	Alright, we'll look at about a half a dozen more reversals on Clinton.
	This is a speech he gave yesterday at the State Department about NATO.
	Some very worrying reversals, to say the least.
	I don't know whether this is related to NATO or whether the Iraqi situation is heavily on his mind and he's thinking about that one.
	And, uh, I'm just, uh, whoops, it wasn't in the sub-directory I thought it was.
	And, uh... These are being played, by the way, folks, directly from a laptop computer.
	Right, exactly correct.
	Okay, here we go.
	Um... Right, this is the first one coming up.
	And, you know, I'm not even familiar with this.
	I can't even tell you what's going on, because I've only ever listened to these once and dumped them down.
	All right.
	This building has seen many negotiations and the signing of many pacts to end bloodshed.
	Okay, this is yesterday, remember?
	Reversal says, bring in arson.
	Bring in arson.
	Bring in arson.
	Or bring in arson.
	Bring in arson.
	Is that referring to Iraq?
	Or what?
	I don't know, but it was very clear.
	Extremely clear.
	We'll get a lot of interpretation from the audience.
	Oh, I'm sure you will.
	Playing these deliberately, just to let people call in with their own thoughts on it.
	Or, better yet, to fax you directly, and your fax number is... Is 760-732-0229.
	That's my fax number.
	Now, if you want the main office number to purchase equipment or a book, we're selling a lot of equipment, of course, machines to do this, that's six six nine five seven eight nine eight hundred six six
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	into that number to tell us your thoughts on the reversal all right okay um and
	we're gonna run with all of these reversals on this thing these are really
	very puzzling to me the second reason they tell must grow is that it will
	make Europe more stable NATO can do for Europe's east what it did for Europe's West
	after the Second World War
	No, he's talking about making Europe stable, but backwards he says, worry, gamble with it.
	Worry, gamble with it.
	Worry, gamble with it.
	Worry.
	Oops, the other one stopped.
	Yeah, gamble with it is very, very clear.
	Oh, exceptionally clear.
	And here it is again.
	Yep, there you go.
	I mean, what's he gambling with?
	Our lives.
	I think so, too.
	This reversal, I'm about to... Listen to me stuttering and stammering on this one.
	These reversals worry me tremendously.
	Well, the whole incursion we're about to make worries me tremendously.
	The President authorized the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Iraq.
	My God.
	Did he really?
	Yeah, he really did.
	I don't... Jeez, maybe that's what this reverse is referring to.
	Enlargement, therefore, will make all of Europe more stable.
	Finally, NATO's growth will erase the artificial line in Europe drawn by Joseph Stalin.
	And backwards he says, bury the law, gamble well fed.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Bury the law, gamble well fed.
	I read a lot of Gamble World Fred.
	I read a lot of Gamble World Fred.
	Okay, um...
	I-I don't like this, to say the least.
	least.
	Believe me, I understand your feelings.
	All right, hold on, David.
	We're at the bottom of the hour.
	We're going to break here.
	David John Oates, Mr. Reverse Speech.
	Keep listening.
	If you're not a believer yet, you will be before this night ends.
	from the high desert this is Coast to Coast AM.
	Okay David.
	Yes, sir.
	I have two reactions to what we've done with Clinton so far.
	Oh, a lot to hear there.
	One is, Art, I really think voice reversal is a useful tool, but when used with so much bias, I think you guys lose all your credibility.
	How come no coverage on the new head of the Gestapo, Ken Starr, slick Willy detractors?
	Is this not America?
	What about equal rights?
	Tit for tat.
	John, did you really mean chit for chat?
	I guess he did.
	David, I think I also detect in your voice a bias against Clinton.
	You don't like Clinton, huh?
	Well, interesting question.
	I did like Clinton when he first came into office, sure.
	I supported him tremendously.
	I have come to dislike him doing these reversals on him the last month.
	Well, all right, and here's the other side of it.
	Yeah, I admit that.
	On the other side of it, hi Art, listening to David Oates and the Clinton reversals, I am reminded once again of Mark Russell's observation, quote, if you have to make up things about this president, you're just not paying attention, end quote.
	In this case, David Oates is not making anything up.
	Well, okay.
	We... How are you?
	Sorry?
	You're not making stuff up.
	Oh, no, of course not.
	I mean, this is the President's voice.
	This is the President's voice.
	I mean, you just have to run the tape backwards and forwards to hear this.
	I mean, this is... I'm finding reversals the way I find them every other time.
	All right, well, the first faxer had a point.
	I mean, have you done any on Ken Starr yet?
	I have... You know what?
	I did some on Ken Starr and really couldn't find anything quotable.
	I've got reversals on... I'm just trying to find them right now, on Paula...
	Oh, I'll tell you what to dig back and get.
	Dig back and get his famous Kiss the Girls one.
	Oh, you want to hear that one?
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	That's absolutely so classic.
	Let's go and have a quick dig for that one.
	Yeah, I do have reversals on Paula Jones Attorney.
	I have got reversals on Janet Reno that are quite supportive and positive.
	Reversals on a couple of White House staff that are quite supportive and positive too.
	You know, so it's not... and they're all on my site, so... OK, we're looking at... we're looking at the one you... what?
	The fun girl to kiss, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	OK, here we go.
	And we're going to run that one now.
	The Senator mentioned trial lawyers and campaign... that means campaign financing.
	How do you personally avoid being unduly influenced by people who give you money or give you services in your campaigns?
	Well, I try to articulate my positions as clearly as possible.
	Tell people what I stand for and let them decide whether they're going to support me or not.
	Well, I try to articulate my positions as clearly as possible.
	here try to articulate my position well I try to articulate my positions as
	clearly as possible and backwards she's a fun girl to kiss president
	Sorry?
	I said the mind of our president.
	Oh yeah.
	Let's look at a couple of reversals on Clinton.
	This is one where he's in an interview he did prior to his election bid.
	He's denying charges of moral dishonesty.
	There still has not been a single solitary shred of evidence.
	Of anything dishonest that I have done in my public life.
	Not only as governor.
	Not only as governor and as president.
	I wonder if that would be known now as an inoperative statement.
	Probably.
	And backwards?
	Denied the habits and I said, dang ya.
	You can hear his southern drawl.
	He's simply saying, you know, look I've denied this over and over again.
	Please just leave me alone.
	Alright.
	And then I'd say hi to him and I'd say, dang ya.
	And again.
	And Art Bell's in all his gang yet. And again. And Art Bell's in all his gang yet. Ah, like invested briggers.
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	Here again is Art.
	Well, we're about to go back to David John Oates and the wonderful, revealing world of reverse speech, and I've got a couple of faxes here that I think will nail it.
	We'll nail us.
	Okay, David?
	Yes, sir?
	I have two reactions to what we've done with Clinton so far.
	Oh, I'd like to hear this.
	One is, Art, I really think voice reversal is a useful tool, but when used with so much bias, I think you guys lose all your credibility.
	How come no coverage on the new head of the Gestapo, Ken Starr, slick, willy detractors?
	Is this not America?
	What about equal rights?
	Tit for tat.
	John, did you really mean chit for chat?
	I guess he did.
	David, I think I also detect in your voice a bias against Clinton.
	You don't like Clinton, huh?
	Well, interesting question.
	I did like Clinton when he first came into office, sure.
	I supported him tremendously.
	I have come to dislike him doing these reversals on him the last month.
	Well, all right, and here's the other side of it.
	Yeah, I admit that.
	On the other side of it, hi Art, listening to David Oates and the Clinton reversals, I am reminded once again of Mark Russell's observation, quote, if you have to make up things about this president, you're just not paying attention, end quote.
	In this case, David Oates is not making anything up.
	Well, okay.
	We... Are you?
	Sorry?
	You're not making stuff up, are you?
	Oh, no, of course not.
	I mean, this is the President's voice.
	This is the President's voice.
	I mean, you just have to run the tape backwards and forwards to hear this.
	I mean, this is... I'm finding reversals the way I find them every other time.
	All right, well, the first faxer had a point.
	I mean, have you done any on Ken Starr yet?
	I have... You know what?
	I did some on Ken Starr and really couldn't find anything quotable.
	I've got reversals on...
	I'm just trying to find the right now on Paula Jones' attorney.
	Oh, I'll tell you what to dig back and get.
	Dig back and get his famous Kiss the Girls one.
	Oh, you want to hear that one?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	That's absolutely so classic.
	Let's go and have a quick dig for that one.
	Yeah, I do have reversals on Paula Jones' attorney.
	I have got reversals on Janet Reno that are quite supportive.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	versus on a couple of White House staff that are quite supportive and positive too.
	So it's not, you know, so it's not, and they're all on my site.
	So, um, okay, we're looking at, um, we're looking at, uh, the one you, what, the fun girl to kiss, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
	Okay, here we go. And we're going to run that one now.
	The Senator mentioned trial lawyers and that means campaign financing.
	How do you personally avoid being unduly influenced by people who give you money or give you services in your campaigns?
	Well, I try to articulate my positions as clearly as possible.
	Tell people what I stand for and let them decide whether they're going to support me or not.
	And the vertical actually occurs on this section here.
	I try to articulate my position.
	Well, I try to articulate my positions as clearly as possible.
	And backwards, she's a fun girl to kiss.
	This is the fun delicate. This is the fun delicate. This is the fun delicate. Oh yes.
	The mind of our president.
	Sorry?
	I said the mind of our president.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let's look at a couple of reversals on Clinton.
	This is one where he's, in an interview he did prior to his election bid, he's denying charges of moral dishonesty.
	There still has not been a single solitary shred of evidence of anything dishonest that I have done in my public life, not only as governor and as president.
	I wonder if that would be known now as an inoperative statement.
	Probably.
	And backwards?
	Denied the habits and I said, dang ya.
	You can hear his southern drawl.
	He's simply saying, you know, look, I've denied this over and over again.
	Please just leave me alone.
	Alright.
	And again.
	I like it best at regular speed.
	Right.
	And again.
	I like it best at regular speed.
	Right.
	You know, if you go to my website, there's a...
	There's quite a lot of reversals of Clinton up there and some of them are very supportive and quite wholesome.
	You may recall we analyzed his debate with Dole prior to his re-election and he came off great then.
	I mean his reversals were strong and con... Well you know why that is?
	It's because though he may have a libido that he cannot control right basically in most
	areas he is not been a bad president
	always simply like that about president i i i i i was also out to hate him at
	the beginning and ended up not hating him
	uh... and you know i don't need to stress i have cried quick in the past
	is some of my uh... uh... press
	uh... in some of my media analysis of his reversal of particular accord of the uh...
	presidential debate but the last month i've been digging in to the dirt
	uh...
	because that's what's been on the media and i present what i thought
	I understand.
	I mean, I don't know how else to say that, you know.
	Well, I think that what you have shown in reverse is that the sex thing happened, which is what we all knew anyway.
	Oh, sure.
	Yep.
	And I'm just presenting my findings.
	All right.
	Let's move away from Clinton.
	Now, I had a young lady on my program.
	I got to get this in.
	Right.
	I had a young lady on my program named Harlett, who was a devil worshipper.
	No question about it.
	Hail Satan, the whole thing.
	Interesting.
	I got a fax from her.
	Uh, email rather, yesterday, and she'd love to come back on the program, this young lady I regarded as a true devil worshipper.
	Oh, some of her wrestles were really quite devastating.
	So let's take the best of Harlett.
	Well, there's one that I played right at the very end that really sent chills down your spine, and she's talking about About her son, and she performed a ritual over her son when he was born.
	To ensure the devil... In my mind, he has gone... I'm sorry, I... No, no, no, that's alright.
	She was simply ensuring that he would be with her with the devil in hell.
	Exactly correct.
	Here we go.
	In my mind, he has gone to hell.
	Right... Who can you say that?
	Based on what?
	Based on the simple fact that when he was born, I performed a certain ritual.
	You know, this one still gives me the chills just playing it forwards and backwards.
	but she says I'll bless him with Satan.
	God.
	Now you see that one, that one really screws with me.
	I'll bless him with Satan.
	You have got to be kidding me.
	I don't know how you can, um, Uh, no.
	You can't.
	There is no way to deny that.
	And, of course, you had that really eerie photo on your webcam the night that we played these reversals.
	Actually, right on that particular reversible I played then is where that ghostly image... That ectoplasm appeared over my head.
	It was so weird.
	God, it was so weird.
	And that's still on your site, I believe.
	I think the photo's still up there, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, we'll look at a couple of others.
	I haven't played these for a long time now.
	I'm just trying to remember which were the best ones.
	I'm just going down my list here.
	She's talking about a birthmark that she has.
	And it bothered quite a few people, that mark began to slowly disappear as I grew older.
	I still have it, but not in the fulfillment that it was at birth.
	And this part, the birthmark was in a My God.
	My God, David.
	She was assaulted, you know, as a child.
	Yeah.
	She was molested.
	Play it again, please, at regular speed.
	Oh my god.
	My god, David.
	She was assaulted, you know, as a child.
	She was molested.
	Play it again please at regular speed.
	Okay, and here it is.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	One more time.
	Gosh, I'm getting chills all down my spine again doing this again.
	Yeah.
	That was a very difficult broadcast for me to do.
	A very difficult reversal for me to find as well.
	Yes.
	And I made a strong statement back then.
	I'll make a strong statement here now.
	You know, I don't pretend to endorse this at all.
	I was just finding the reversals.
	Here's one she had just after a Wiccan called in, I believe.
	I can't even remember the clarity on these, so I'm just sort of going down the transcript here.
	Well, I'm not talking about a church.
	I'm a practicing Wiccan.
	Oh goodness, would you please come visit me?
	Can I give you my address?
	I would like to see you, sir.
	And, uh, oops, okay, backwards she says, uh, begin to serve my grief with defended warlock.
	Very quick.
	Yeah.
	Warlock is very clear.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	The whole reverse was a little bit hard to hear, though.
	Let me see.
	What else have we got here?
	Oh, you know, here's one that some people disagree with me on.
	But I remember this one, and this was quite clear.
	This was the soft side of What I saw is the soft side of Harlot that she didn't want to portray.
	The soft side of Harlot?
	That's not the grand scheme of things.
	God needs an opposer.
	God needs it or he would have never existed to begin with.
	And back what she says, mend little we heart within.
	Friend little we heart within.
	Oh, those are too clear.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Some of them are just absolutely chilling.
	Here's one here, she's talking about, actually I'm not too sure what she's talking about forwards here, let's just run it and see what she's got to say for herself.
	It's just a reversal caught my eye as I pulled this up.
	If you go through your scriptures and you find out in the beginnings of Adam and Eve and so forth and so on, their eyes were pretty much closed, only open to what God wanted them to see at that point.
	They'll force the venom.
	Oh boy.
	Once again, the contextual relationship, you know.
	Again, and again, and again.
	I mean, we look at Clinton's sex reversal, we've got reversal validating, you know?
	We look at Harlock, we've got the same type of stuff.
	We look at NASA, we find that they're, surprise, surprise, they're not telling the whole truth.
	Oh, I know one I want to hear.
	Since you mentioned NASA, the one I want to hear, which is impossibly congruent, is the one where they mention Cydonia.
	Oh, yeah.
	The word Cydonia.
	The word Cydonia, in a million years, Cydonia would not come up.
	Cydonia, of course, is a region on Mars where the face and the other artifacts are.
	And there's no way in hell the word Cydonia would come up.
	A hundred monkeys, a million years, you're not going to get it.
	But here we got it.
	We had two NASA officials on the air with us, spokespeople from NASA.
	And we got the word Cydonia.
	Impossible.
	And I do appreciate your commentary beforehand, because that gives me a chance to pull the reversal up into different sub-directories.
	Right.
	Shortly after it got there, when the mapping began that year, Viking Orbiter 1 sent back the picture, and somebody noticed it on there, and it was kind of a neat thing.
	And backwards, we're involved with Cydonia.
	We're involved with Cydonia could not be more clear.
	Absolutely.
	And there's another reversal from this interview that I get requested a lot, too.
	And actually, after this, if we've got time before the break, it might be appropriate to talk about my own experience.
	We shall.
	Go ahead and hit us with one more from the NASA guys.
	They're talking about research projects to fund.
	They're talking about the Hubble spacecraft in this one.
	I get a lot of requests for this one.
	Russell says, What's locked up with their starship?
	This needs to be known.
	What's locked up with their starship?
	This needs to be known.
	What's locked up with their starship?
	This needs to be known.
	Okay.
	What's locked up with their starship?
	This needs to be known.
	What's locked up with our starship, this needs to be known.
	You do not have to be a rocket scientist or a NASA spokesman to get that one clearly.
	be a rocket scientist nor a NASA spokesman to get that one clearly.
	Yep, yep.
	Obviously referring to there's something else going on.
	Obviously.
	What starship is he talking about?
	Yeah, I'm glad to get off the Clinton 6.
	Alright, now, David John Oates had his own UFO sighting.
	You told me about this earlier in the day today.
	Yeah, quite an incredible, the first time it's ever happened to me.
	When was this?
	This was just before Christmas of last year, so about two months ago.
	I have a very high house.
	I live on top of a mountaintop.
	I've got five acres of land.
	I can see right down to the ocean.
	And I've got a large valley in front of my house.
	And I can see to the mountain range along the top.
	And my kids were outside in the jacuzzi.
	David, hold on a second.
	I just realized I didn't do my commercials.
	So let's hang the audience up right there.
	And now back to the best of Art Bell.
	David, go ahead.
	Okay, so this is what happened.
	My kids are outside and they rushed in to the house and said, Dad, Dad, there's a UFO outside!
	And I'm going, yeah, right.
	You know, strange lights in the sky is what I was thinking.
	And so I went outside and I will never forget this, ever.
	The most incredible thing, right on the horizon, across the top of the mountain ranges, was this Massive!
	Massive!
	Light!
	Um, it was, um, uh, it was, it was glowing.
	It was, well, it wasn't glowing, because the edges were very defined.
	It was, it was a golden, uh, color, yellow color.
	There was planes, uh, I can watch the airplanes flying into the airport on the approach path, and there was, um, I could see the planes flying in, and they were pinpricks of light against this thing.
	It had to be, 100, 200 times at least larger than a plane.
	I've had people come up to the house and we've tried to determine the distance, and some people were saying it was a couple of miles.
	Sure.
	Wide.
	It was like two saucer shapes right on top of each other.
	Talking Phoenix-sized here.
	Oh, it was huge.
	Okay.
	And we watched it for at least a half an hour as it slowly moved across the mountaintops.
	It was in Nomad Did you have a tape recorder running?
	thing that impressed me most about it was the size. Did you have a tape recorder running?
	No, I taped it. I taped myself talking to people about it a couple days later.
	Any reversals connected with it? Yes.
	You do. Alright, well, hold on to them and we will get to them right after the break,
	which is coming up right now. Speaking of the softer side of Harlot, I guess everybody
	occasionally has a softer side.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	I hate the world today.
	You're so good to me, I know, but I can't change.
	Tried to tell you, but you look at me like maybe I'm an angel underneath.
	Innocent and sweet.
	Yesterday I cried.
	Once again, here is David John Oates.
	this once again here is david ronalds david
	uh... i have your next assignment for you What's that?
	It is Major Ed Dames.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah.
	You need to call the network tomorrow.
	At the four-hour program we did with Major Dames this week, there were some things he said.
	For example, I asked him at a very critical moment in the interview what really was going on below Mars, and Ed Dames said, something is waking All right.
	And there were some incredible moments in that interview.
	Absolutely incredible.
	And everybody's been waiting for this, so that is your next assignment, should you decide to accept it.
	Oh yeah, I will accept that one.
	There'll be a lot of people very, very happy.
	I would say, of all your guests on your program, Ed Dames is the one I get the most requests for, for reversals.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Alright, well then this last... I laugh constantly about him.
	This last four hour program was a doozy.
	Okay, well we'll get that one going.
	I don't know.
	I just want to quickly... I've been a touch upset about the Clinton stuff, I must admit.
	I went to my word site and I've searched through it and if people go to the site, they'll see
	a whole bunch of positive reversals on that one. You know, I can't really win with this.
	I've analysed what I've found and that's what I've found.
	Alright, look, go to my website, folks, www.artbell.com.
	Go down to David's name, and just click on it, and you'll go right over to his website.
	You can listen to these reversals on your own computer.
	Yeah, they're both good and bad.
	And let me just stress, my sole and primary concern is reverse speech.
	I believe I've discovered this incredible Technology, of language, it has the potential to open us up to so much.
	And that's really what my emphasis is.
	Not a political agenda?
	It is absolutely not a political agenda.
	I can't stress that strongly enough.
	And yes, sometimes my opinions are swayed about people when I hear their reversals.
	I'm human, I can't help that.
	But that's not what my agenda is and that's not what my motive is.
	And I just want to Yes, as strongly as I can.
	Thank you, Newt.
	Huh?
	Thank you, Newt.
	Newt?
	Now, we had Zahi Awas, the Distinguished Director of Antiquities at Giza in Egypt on the program.
	Right.
	I don't know if you happened to catch any reversals from me during that program, but I had like 102 and a half Temperature I had the flu it was really incredibly difficult, but I did a two-hour interview I was ayahuasca, and I imagine you concentrated on Zahi I I was just sort of curious what somebody with a fever like that would sound like you know what I didn't This is the one of the few interviews.
	I didn't look at you.
	I was under such a time restraint I had all the Clinton stuff going I had my own practice going and I really all I did was Zahi I I've got to tell you, this was probably one of the most difficult tapes I have ever done.
	Zahi?
	Yes, of one of the assignments you have given me.
	For a start, the guy's bilingual.
	That's right.
	I guess it's Egyptian or Arabic, I don't know what language they speak over there.
	There was many reversals I found.
	Well, when I say reversals, I can recognize reversals fairly well.
	They have a very unique tonal signature.
	The sing-song melodies, the etheric tone.
	Sure.
	And I heard many of those characteristics found throughout his tape that I couldn't document because I had no idea what he was saying.
	So I assumed it was in his native language and it caused me a great deal of frustration.
	Hearing these things that I couldn't put down, so my analysis that I'm going to present is not the entire picture.
	It's highly likely that I have missed key stuff.
	Okay.
	The other thing I found was reversals that appeared to be half and half, using half English and half words that I also couldn't understand.
	So I'm going to play a couple of those.
	That may make it difficult then.
	It may make it tough for us.
	I'm prefacing my presentation with that.
	But nonetheless, there's some interesting information here.
	Let us begin.
	The first reversal I will play actually talks about you being sick.
	And you'll notice, you'll notice you start off by saying, well, I'm OK, but no, I'm not.
	Your voice, you were changed halfway through.
	I am fine.
	If you don't count.
	No, I'm not fine.
	I'm sick.
	I'm very sorry to hear that.
	And he says back with this dilemma, the dilemma, I'm fine.
	No, I'm not fine.
	Yes.
	Yes, he's hearing that and commenting on that.
	Yes.
	Okay, now he's talking about, he says, I'm a person with an open mind.
	Very significant reversal here, a word he uses three or four times throughout this interview.
	Of course, you know, I am a person really who has an open mind.
	I always try to investigate anything.
	And backwards he says, bigots seem to doubt.
	Bigots?
	Bigot seemed to doubt.
	Yeah, I heard that.
	Yeah, he uses the word bigot three or four times.
	He seems to, both referring to himself and other people, he seems to have an issue with that.
	He has an open mind, but other people who are not as open-minded have doubts.
	And now in this section here, and you'll notice you can hear his accent backwards as well as forwards.
	Some of these reversals with his accent backwards are really quite stunning.
	In this next... OK, let's just run the next track.
	You know, the only objection that, you know, maybe this fight that happened for the last two years, that I never really responded at all, it's because I thought that trying to respond, maybe it's wasting all the time.
	I don't know what fight he's talking about.
	Maybe you know that one.
	No.
	No?
	Okay, well, when he says, you know, I didn't respond because I thought it was a waste of time.
	Backwards he says, sending their money, or could be send me their money.
	I just don't know what he's talking about there.
	Send me their money.
	Send me their money Azahi and his position, his job, and many like him in the Egyptian hierarchy.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, hit it again.
	Okay, you know what, I actually, point of fact, I just pulled up the next one, but we can get back to that very quickly.
	I actually know absolutely nothing about this situation.
	I am in total ignorance of anything about this.
	So, uh, okay, here it is.
	Se vi me mori.
	Uh, yeah, I think that one pretty much speaks for itself, quite frankly.
	Yeah, so do I. I don't need to make any further comments on that.
	Clearly, there is some other stuff going on on the pyramids, too, what he's not telling us.
	I've found a couple of reversals about this.
	This is one of them.
	What I did for the last three years is working, excavating, trying to reveal the secrets from the fans.
	Okay, he's working, trying to reveal the entrance, I guess.
	Yes.
	It's tough with his accent.
	Now this is one of those words, I've no idea what the word means, but it's clearly part of the reversal.
	There's actually a two-word reversal here.
	The first one says a word, it sounds something like saladrophy, whatever that is.
	Listen carefully, I'm sure some people will fax you with what they think this means.
	Saladrophy, or whatever, they hold it.
	Saladrophy, they hold it.
	That's a hard one.
	It is a hard one.
	And then he says, we froze it.
	And he actually uses the word froze it again later on in the transcript.
	Something that's been preserved, obviously.
	We froze it.
	We froze it.
	Oh, my gracious.
	That is very, very... That's too clear, and the meaning of that is very clear as well.
	Yes.
	Oh, my.
	Yeah, well, these were fairly obvious, you know, when I found them.
	I just wish I understood Arabic or whatever language he speaks.
	Egyptian.
	Egyptian, to get the rest of the story.
	But we've got enough in English here.
	Here he is talking about a fight, I think, with someone.
	Some interesting reversals around fights he's had with people.
	He came to see me and I think if you talked to him again, maybe he will tell you what's happened between us.
	I think he understood now completely my side.
	Now this is interesting.
	I used him in my story.
	There's a whole bunch of reversals about using people to his own ends.
	I have a hard time with that one.
	Yeah, I realized that when I played it.
	Okay, let's move on to the next one.
	And also, too, you know, I think the reversals are there.
	He's just got such a thick accent.
	It's hard to understand forward sometimes, too.
	That is correct.
	This next one threw me for a loop.
	I was chuckling for about a half an hour after I found this one.
	This is what you call busted.
	I told them, John, I don't really have anything against you personally.
	I'm not your enemy.
	Don't have anything against you personally, but backwards he says.
	Wait a minute.
	Everybody should know he was speaking of John Anthony West and he has had words with John Anthony West to say the least.
	Both forwards and backwards.
	Backwards he says, don't serve with the nigger.
	A real denigrating term.
	I'm served with the nigger.
	No comments.
	It speaks for itself.
	I don't have anything against you personally.
	Okay, now we're looking at the next one down.
	He's talking about why he doesn't want to open the pyramids up to where actually he has trouble with people with all these different million ideas coming in.
	Well, you know if you open the pyramids, you know, to amateurs and people who don't have a degree in archaeology or scientists, you have millions of ideas that everyone will try to prove in theory.
	Okay, and then he says the world would doubt.
	And I think that's just as straightforward.
	He doesn't want to have a whole bunch of different theories in because it would cause confusion over what the pyramids are all about.
	Okay?
	Tell me what it was again?
	The world would doubt.
	The world would doubt.
	Regular speed, please.
	See, this is the problem with his accent.
	I understand.
	Give me regular speed.
	It sounds like this world would doubt.
	I had the world would doubt but this world could also be true too.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I can hear the yes there.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	All right.
	This next one's a real puzzling one.
	I've hesitated whether I want to play this on the air or not, but it's one of the words, and it's so significant, I would be remiss if I didn't play it.
	I don't know what it means.
	Okie dokie.
	He's talking about... Every family in Egypt is somehow working in tourism, and they lost a lot of it because there was, what, a massacre or something?
	Yes, there certainly was a massacre of many, many, many, many in Egypt.
	Okay, see this is where I have zero knowledge about this whole situation.
	You know, from every family in Egypt, there is someone who's working in tourism.
	Means we lost a lot because of that.
	Yes.
	And therefore, the Egyptians, not the government, the Egyptians with the government, are trying now to show to the people that this will never happen again.
	Now this reversal doesn't seem to be related to what he's saying before.
	It's a bizarre reversal.
	Sad earthling.
	He froze it.
	They're very fast.
	Extremely fast.
	Let's try that again.
	But it's certainly there.
	The earthling is the word that got me when I was running the tape back.
	I was going, huh?
	Very clear.
	Yeah, I know.
	Very clear.
	Yeah, I know.
	Fast, fast but clear.
	Maybe I would appreciate as much feedback as I can get on these ones.
	Of all the tapes I've ever done for you, this is the one that's got me scratching my head the most.
	For a start, I don't know anything about the situation.
	Secondly, you've got the accent problem and some very unusual terms.
	On the morning of the day of the 21st of December, it was the first time that the Sphinx was smiling.
	Okay, talking about the Sphinx smiling?
	Yes, he had just, um, finished the resurrection of the Sphinx.
	Right.
	And backwards, see, oh, that's interesting.
	Backwards he says, her message was tested, neutered.
	And by neutered, I'm seeing that as being made ineffective.
	Or, um, her message was tested, they've analyzed whatever it was, and they've made the message of it ineffective.
	if a message was tested, neutered.
	For a message with perfect neutering.
	Okay?
	Yes, okay indeed.
	Yeah, obviously something's been made ineffective, whatever that is.
	Here he's talking about allowing people to enter the pyramid for meditation purposes.
	And at the same time we're going to allow the people who will enter to have meditation.
	We're not going to stop that.
	He obviously means what he says, and this one backwards he says, they shared the devout.
	Shared the devout.
	Wow.
	Shared the devout.
	Shared the devout.
	Okay?
	Wow, was that clear.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, once again, that contextual relationship, you know?
	People coming to have meditation, the devout.
	I emphasize this over and over and over again because it's so important.
	You've got this direct contextual relationship.
	Okay, this next one, he's trying to get you on side.
	I think you are moderating a debate or something?
	I am going to moderate a debate in May.
	Right.
	Between Graham Hancock, Robert Bavall, Daniel Brinkley, Azahi Awos, it's going to be mission impossible and somebody's going to get thrown into the ocean.
	Yeah, well, I've got some interesting reversal about that debate when he talks about it, too.
	Yeah, all right.
	Okay.
	You know, Art, I was going to leave all of this for you as a moderator and a judge in this debate.
	He's trying to get you on side.
	Backwards he says, woo your fourth.
	Oh, you're false.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Let me run that one again for you.
	You can actually hear his being exceptionally nice to you.
	You know, Art, I was going to leave all of this for you as a moderator and a judge in this debate.
	Oh, you're false.
	Oh, you're fast.
	Oh, boy.
	Probably not going to quite succeed after hearing that reversal.
	You know, I say sometimes on the air, sometimes, this is everything that you've always wished for, but hope it never comes.
	That's right.
	The ultimate truth detector.
	Uh, here's an interesting one that's out on left field, too.
	He had several reversals out on left field.
	Uh, what do you hope to find?
	Will, uh, you are going to attempt then to breach the door found by, uh, Enbrink.
	Yes.
	What do you imagine you might find?
	You know, I, I really do not, I cannot really answer this question until we take the photograph to see what's behind this door.
	OK.
	Often in reverse speech, well, often, occasionally in reverse speech, you will get flashbacks to what he's saying here.
	He's thinking about something else.
	Reversal says, don't forget, you live down the shock, said the slut.
	What?
	I don't know who the slut is, but it's a conversation someone's had to him.
	Essentially saying, you know, you like having... you like danger, you like shock, you like...
	He's talking about opening the door, you know.
	Don't forget you live down the shock, said the slut, except you long reversal, out in left field.
	Could've forgett'll only if nah'b'a shook' said the slut.
	Could've forgett'll only if nah'b'a shook' said the slut.
	Alright.
	Now see, now I have more trouble with that.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	And I think that you're right.
	I think that it is his accent and his very rapid form of speech that makes all of these very difficult to hear.
	You're getting that forward too.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So let me just pick out some of the clearest ones then.
	Like I said, I had a lot of trouble with this tape.
	I can see that.
	I rejected a lot of them for airplay.
	I think only about 30 or 35 went up on my site out of a possible 100 that I could choose from.
	Such a thick accent.
	And words, I found reversals with a couple of English words in it, then Egyptian words as well.
	Well, you know, that's very revealing anyway.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Exceptionally so.
	Okay, here's... I think this reversal's fairly clear.
	Obviously something else going on in the pyramids he's not telling us about.
	And Daniel came after that and said, Zahi, I want you to meet The people will talk about you.
	You have to face them.
	I said, Daniel, I am not ready.
	Okay, long reversal, I've separated it.
	We hide this net, then there's a slight pause, make clear now we're facing the door.
	And there's another reference to door.
	I don't know what door he's referring to.
	All right, go ahead.
	He hides this net.
	Yeah, sort of.
	that that will be a trip here that
	you know sort of yeah sort of on again ok it's obvious to me
	that's all he is accent uh... and the fact that he is thinking in egyptian
	you know is obviously uh... uh... a tarnishing uh... what we can get clearly
	Hold right where you are, David.
	When we come back, we will move into some classic reversals, all-time classic reversals in the final half hour.
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	that with the exception of a few very clear reversals on Zayas, that we've learned a lesson
	here, a very important lesson, and that is that somebody who thinks in another language,
	somebody who speaks English on the fly very quickly and with a heavy accent is not easily
	So, in a lot of ways, this was a very, very good demonstration.
	There were a couple of extremely clear reversals.
	And I mean extremely clear.
	But I think this would cast out then, for example, on the John Anthony West reversal.
	And some of the others.
	And I thought that was very harsh.
	Terribly harsh.
	And maybe inaccurate.
	It's just... I think it's just too difficult to reverse somebody who basically is thinking... Actually, let's talk to David.
	David, When they're speaking in English forward, they're half the time thinking in their own language, right?
	Yeah, that would generally be the case.
	And you know, I mean, and this whole experience with Zahi Youssef in my mind only goes to validate reverse speech even more.
	I mean, because if you could get random, if you could get If I could find intelligent English clear statements in any speech, then I would find it in this as well.
	You are exactly right.
	In other words, random sounds, if a reverse speech is baloney, should produce an equal number of apparently clear reversals in good old English.
	Yeah, right.
	That's exactly correct, and that's not what happened.
	I had a lot of trouble with this.
	That's right.
	I had a real lot of trouble with it.
	No, no, no, no.
	A good demonstration, actually.
	Yeah, I'm certainly glad I did it.
	It's up on my website.
	People can go and listen to it at www.reversespeech.com, and you can hear the whole transcript up there.
	Also, some positive reversals on Clinton, and I'm going to get my 800 number out now and at the end.
	And if people want to try this out for themselves, don't, you know, don't believe me.
	Go and get the equipment and do it for yourself.
	You can call 1-800-669-5789.
	Oh, indeed. You can call 1-800-669-5789. 800-669-5789.
	800-669-5789.
	Alright, and there you can get reversing equipment, tape recorders, specially modified, blah blah blah.
	Yep.
	Now let's look at some native English speaking people and notice the difference in the clarity of the reversal.
	Okay.
	Okay, here we have Patsy Ramsey on CNN, a famous clip.
	I've played this several times.
	She's talking forwards about obviously the death of John Burnett, a little girl who was murdered in Boulder, Colorado, and she's saying she feels there's at least two people out there who knows who did this crime.
	We feel like there are at least two people on the face of this earth that know.
	And that is the killer and someone that that person may have conspired in.
	And back what she says in a very clear English statement, I'm that person.
	I'm that person.
	I'm that person.
	It's clear as day.
	I'm that person.
	Not only is it clear as day, but it's got that ethereal little sound to it too.
	Yep. And let's run that whole track backwards and you'll actually hear the, you'll hear the gibberish first,
	followed by this very clear phrase right in the middle of the.
	Alright, so it's the whole thing?
	Oh my, alright.
	Alright, so gibberish, gibberish, gibberish, and then I'm that person, clear as can be.
	Yep, exactly correct.
	Exactly how reverse speech works.
	This is a... You know what?
	Actually, here's a reversal that actually describes what reverse speech is.
	This is actually me.
	This is back in 1988 when I was really thrust into this.
	I'd pretty well worked out what it was then.
	And I'm at a conference and I'm saying, you know, I've suddenly been thrust into this role where I have people coming to me saying, David, I want to know what's going on inside my head.
	I've been suddenly thrust into this role where I have people coming to me and saying, David, I want to know what's going on inside my head.
	And I think, honey, are you asking me?
	All I do is play tape backwards.
	Right.
	And I'm starting to get a feel for it.
	Amazing complementarity here.
	Contextual relationship.
	Right at the words where I say all I do is play takes backwards.
	There's a reversal on that that says look at that.
	There's a little bit of gibberish followed by all I am inside.
	Two statements here.
	Look at that.
	A fraction of gibberish.
	All I am inside.
	Oh yeah.
	And what happens when we play tape backwards?
	We see all that we are inside.
	Here it is again.
	Exceptionally clear reversal.
	See now we're getting down to English reversals.
	I mean English forwards.
	Clear, obvious English.
	Clear, obvious English backwards.
	Even in an Australian accent?
	Sorry?
	Even in an Australian accent?
	Yeah, absolutely correct.
	Yeah, and you know, that's one thing we notice in reverse speech is we hear accents and colloquialisms.
	And, you know, like the sea, the desert, answers on Clinton was sea, desert, answers, not desert, answers.
	You know, I would say answers and Clinton would say answers.
	Right.
	Yeah, so we're just going to go through some more classic reversals.
	This is actually the second one I've found in speech, right after the Neil Armstrong example.
	This is a live commentary of JFK's assassination in Dallas, Texas.
	Several police officers are rushing up the hill at this time.
	Stand by.
	Just a moment, please.
	Something has happened in the motorcade.
	Stand by please.
	Portland Hospital, there has been a shooting.
	Portland Hospital has been advised to stand by for a severe gunshot wound.
	And right at the precise point that he realizes the shooting has occurred, he says backwards,
	he's shot bad, hold it, try and look up.
	Three sentences together, totally relating even the sentences run on.
	I mean, this is stretching the laws of probability to the nth degree.
	Sure.
	I mean, I don't even need to play that one at three speed.
	No, you're right.
	That one's so clear.
	Let's run it forwards and backwards.
	Here it is, forwards.
	Backwards.
	Cut it.
	You know, if anything, it's almost more clear in reverse.
	Yeah, that comment has been said to me about that statement too.
	And see, once again, this is a highly emotional situation.
	It's like the fire, you know, the fire reversal is exactly the same forwards as backwards, as clear backwards as forwards.
	And there's just so many common factors around this technology.
	The more emotional someone becomes, the clearer the reversals become, the more frequent they become, and this is such a consistent observation.
	I mean, over and over and over again.
	I mean, I just don't know what else to say.
	I don't know how people can continue doubting with the overwhelming, not just the clear reversals, but the consistency of them over again.
	Oh, here's an amusing one on O.J.
	Simpson.
	I like this one, not so much what he says backwards, but what he says forwards.
	Jay?
	No, it's very careful what he says forwards here.
	The worst thing you can have, that you could ever have, is have your argument taped.
	I would say, anybody out there that's married, that's in a relationship, just throw a tape recorder on them.
	Next time you have an argument and play it back, you will not believe that was you.
	Yeah, I just want to run that section again to the last bit.
	Put a tape recorder on the next time you have an argument and play it back.
	You will not believe that was you.
	Very ironic, and backwards he says, I skinned them all.
	I skinned them all.
	I skinned them all.
	Yeah, and skin is actually slang for I conned or I fooled them, but I think it's also relating to the intensity and gravity of the crime itself.
	Yes.
	Quite an amazing reversal.
	Let me see now.
	Oh, you know, we did a couple on the Queen a while back in the death of Princess Di.
	I'm just running down my page here.
	That's fine.
	Whatever you've got that's hot.
	Let's see what we've got.
	Okay, this is the Queen on the death of Princess Di.
	This week at Balmoral, we have all been trying to help William and Harry come to terms with the devastating loss that they and the rest of us have suffered.
	And back when she says, the fuss will serve us.
	And then I want to play another one as well, and there's a little comment I've got to make on this one.
	The fuss will serve us.
	The fuss will serve us.
	Couldn't be clearer.
	The fuss will serve us.
	And I'm a regular on one of Britain's late-night radio programs, the Jane's Whale Show, and when I played that one, he said to me, well, that's exactly what has happened.
	Since the death of Princess Di, the tabloids have been very lenient on the royal family.
	And here's another one, too, on the Queen.
	I for one believe there are lessons to be drawn from her life and from the extraordinary and moving reaction to her death.
	Now notice the British accent backwards here.
	She says, uh, sell her, feel it now.
	In other words, let's promote Princess Di.
	I can feel now all the public's, uh, probably love and, uh, and, uh, whatever for Princess Di.
	Oops, now that just stopped.
	Seller, I can feel it now.
	Seller, feel it now.
	Seller, feel it now.
	Okay.
	Seller, feel it now.
	Now, I think the Aussie mind hears the English accent just fine, but I don't.
	Okay, that seems like a fairly straightforward reversal to me.
	Look, here's one I've played on your program.
	A lot.
	Oh, and I want to move on to the Sonny Bono funeral, too.
	That's one you haven't heard.
	That's right.
	Well, actually, now I've just gotten lost just a touch.
	I've got to find the script for Sonny Bono.
	Here's one I played on your program a while back.
	This is Whoopi Goldberg talking about one of her latest movies.
	How much fun was this film meant to do?
	Well, it was a lot of fun, you know, because I got to play with all these guys.
	And back was the long sentence.
	She says, see all the wealth that I got.
	I sucked the money.
	We also will suck your, uh, sexy bunnies.
	Okay.
	We also will suck your, uh, sexy bunnies.
	And what's...
	Oh, suck the bunny.
	We also will suck your, uh, sexy bunnies.
	Uh-huh.
	These are some classic ones that I don't think I've done on your program before.
	Right.
	Okay, let's find a couple on the share.
	This is the ones I haven't ever played on air.
	Okay, this would be the occasion of the Sonny Bono funeral.
	Right, yeah.
	The one I'm pulling up right now, she's actually talking about when they first met, I believe.
	He walked into this room, and I swear to God, I saw him and like everybody else in the room was just washed away in this kind of soft focus filter kind of like when Maria Sartoni at the dance.
	Now you have to realize at this time he was talking to a girl who thought that Mount Rushmore was a natural phenomenon.
	Quite amazing.
	Then she says, this is also a long sentence too, the wonderful shine was a warm show, I'm with love, the world moved me.
	In other words, he shone, it was warm and fuzzy, I'm with love, the world moved me.
	The wonderful shine was a warm show, I'm with love, the world moved me.
	The wonderful shine was a warm show, I'm with love, the world moved me.
	And once more.
	Yeah, love, caring, compassion, all of it there in both directions.
	Yeah, absolutely correct.
	And, you know, I like these long reversals for nothing else.
	There's no way you can explain that.
	No.
	No, no, not with 10,000 monkeys in a million years.
	The argument just doesn't wash.
	It really doesn't.
	Here's some from a casual conversation with a friend of mine, a good friend as you can tell from the reversal, he's talking about some photographs he wants to show me, which incidentally are up on my website.
	I just put some new photographs of myself up on the site this week, so you can go to the site and have a look at them, and this is actually what this conversation is talking about, the new photographs that are now up on the website.
	I want to do them better, they were just rent free.
	I'll give it to you.
	And the reversal says, please to be your friend.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Go take a look at the photographs of David, by the way.
	He does not look like he sounds.
	Oh, really?
	No, no.
	No, no.
	You sound...
	You sound like a hairless Aussie beach boy, and you look like a grizzled mountain man.
	I guess I do.
	It's that beard and all that sort of stuff, you know.
	Actually, the photographs we talked about here are the black and white ones, and you can actually see his friendship in the photographs, because he's really captured me in this really quite incredible He's really, I think, captured the warmth of who I am.
	They're just amazing photographs.
	Let's look at a couple of things I don't think I've breached on your program.
	We'll look at some quick conversations.
	I can't play entire conversations, but have you ever been in a situation with someone and you're about to say something and before you have a chance to say it, someone else says it for you?
	Or you feel like you want a cup of coffee and Before you ask for it, someone says, hey, would you like a cup of coffee?
	Of course.
	Many instances like that in reverse speech.
	Reverse speech is actually a communication process.
	It would be deja vu.
	Right.
	Yeah, good one.
	This is actually from an Australian TV program.
	It's a reporter asking a man about a threatening letter his wife received.
	And right at the end he says, well, you know, she offers to show him this letter.
	Well, she says it was in your handwriting.
	Well, then she should produce that letter.
	Have you seen the letter?
	Yes, I have.
	Do you want to see it?
	Yes.
	Now, where he says she should produce that letter, play that.
	Have you seen the letter?
	Have you seen the letter?
	Backwards he says, I want to see that letter.
	Yeah, fine.
	Yes, I have.
	Do you want to see it?
	Yes.
	Fine.
	I wonder if he's right all of a sudden.
	I wonder if he's right all of a sudden.
	I have.
	Do you want to see it?
	Yes.
	Look at that.
	I think that's in... amazing.
	I do too.
	Quite frankly.
	And here's another one of a similar type.
	Actually, it's good we've got this half an hour just to go through this because these are the sort of things I really don't get to cover.
	Really, all of reverse speech is amazing and dangerous and all the things that we've talked about.
	All of the above, absolutely.
	Here's me in session work with a client and I've said several times on your program, you know, I use this in therapy quite a lot.
	We just get Stunning success using this in therapy.
	It goes right to the root cause of someone's psychosis or problem.
	In normal just one half an hour tape recording.
	But this one is showing communication.
	Clyde had come to me to give up cigarette smoking and halfway through the interview I'm trying to find out how long she's been smoking.
	How long have you been smoking?
	Since I was 17.
	And 40 seconds.
	And you'll notice I started to ask the question, and you're, ah, and then I didn't finish it.
	Right.
	And here's that half-asked sentence again.
	Oops.
	Gee whiz, now my computer's dropping out again.
	And you're, ah.
	And backwards I say, how old?
	Ah, old enough.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	Ah, old enough.
	How old, uh, straight out.
	Exactly right.
	And here's that whole thing again, played forwards, reversal, superimposed.
	Yeah.
	How long have you been smoking?
	Since I was 17.
	And you're, uh, uh, oh, you know... I'm 40.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha I'm in a session with a client.
	Once again, I'm pulling out therapeutic examples here.
	And I play these type of reversals on my lectures, which I don't tend to play on the radio.
	And she's telling me about a career... Well, we'll just play it.
	Don't laugh, but when you said that word, it reminded me of my first business.
	Oh, really?
	I was about nine years old.
	Tell me more.
	Well, back east, they used coal in the wintertime.
	Okay, now you notice I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, I say, And let's run that whole tracking thing.
	Just remarkable.
	Yeah, here we go.
	I still laugh, but when you said that word, it reminded me of my first business.
	Oh, really?
	There's reversal.
	I was about nine years old.
	What do you want?
	Well, Becky, Steve.
	Okay.
	Yes, okay.
	Perfect, in fact.
	Yeah, and I've got so many examples like this.
	You know, reverse speech explains all those subtle nuances of speech, those feelings of Intuition, that knowingness that we all have.
	You know, like you're in an argument with your wife and you swear, black and blue, she said something.
	And she says, no, I never said that.
	But I've got instances on tape where she's actually said it backwards.
	And in intense emotions, we are far more open to hearing the reversals than what we normally are.
	In regular everyday conversation.
	What would you say to a husband and wife who would decide to record themselves throughout a day or two?
	And then reverse themselves.
	Well, the first thing you should do is have an agreement that you won't get upset with what you'll find.
	That's what I thought.
	Yeah, I actually don't recommend it, quite frankly.
	You can get some pretty nasty stuff coming out.
	I've had marriages break up over hearing reversals.
	I thought so.
	I speak from personal experience.
	Personal experience.
	Yeah, I'm a single man now.
	I would say reverse switch was directly contributed to two marriage breakups.
	Two of them?
	Not one but two?
	Not one but two.
	The last one, I was married very happily for four years.
	We'd never done reversals.
	We finally did reversals on each other and within three months of doing that... That was it?
	That was it.
	We broke up.
	It was very nasty.
	All right.
	A word of warning then for the general public.
	David, we're at the end of time here.
	Our time anyway.
	Let me get my 800 number out.
	Please.
	For tape reversal machines, for related materials, the number is... 1-800-669-5789.
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	We desperately need people trained in this skill and this technology.
	We have correspondence programs available and home study courses.
	If you want to learn how to do this for yourself, just call the office.
	The staff will be there as of tomorrow morning.
	1-800-669-5789.
	All right.
	Moreover, his website has all of this stuff, and so very much more.
	And you can get to it through my website at www.artbell.com.
	Just fly up there, look for David's name, click on it, it'll take you right over to his website, or go directly to www.reversebeach.com.
	How's that, David?
	Thank you very much, Art.
	I'll get to the Ed Dames tape.
	I'll call your office tomorrow and I'll get that done top priority.
	Ed Dames is your assignment.
	Take care, David.
	Thank you very much, Art.
	I appreciate it.
	We're going to break here at the top of the hour.
	And when we come back, we'll just do open lines, comments on reverse speech, comments on microphones on Mars probes, whatever else may be on your mind is fair game.

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