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Nov. 25, 1997 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Ed Dames - Kill Shot and Remote Viewing

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, as the case may be, across all these many, many time zones in the west from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Island chains, eastward all the way into the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the Pole, and worldwide, global on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is Coach Cross AM, and I'm Artel.
unidentified		Great to be here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next hour, we are going to have Sytex Major Ed Bames, a technical remote viewer.
		And I'll tell you a little bit of what's coming.
		Not that I really know.
		You see, Ed called, I don't know, late last week, I think, and said, all right, I've got it.
unidentified		Got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've actually got what I've been unable to figure out.
		In other words, there was a point past which remote viewers apparently are unable to see.
		And Ed, for lack of a better phrase, and it's a pretty good one, actually, shows discontinuity, the great discontinuity, he calls it.
		And he knows what it is.
		And I said, wow, all right, well, here we go.
		We'll do a program.
		Major Ed Dames was a part of the actual U.S. government-backed, funded remote viewing program, which went on for many years in the U.S. with many millions of dollars of your tax dollars spent, and has now started SciTech, which is a private organization.
		And he said, Art, do you want to know what it is?
		And I thought for a second, and I said, no, I don't.
		I want to find out when everybody else finds out.
		So, that is exactly what's going to occur.
		I will find out when you find out.
		I don't know.
		What do you think it might be?
		I thought I would ask you in this hour prior to his appearance, what do you think this discontinuity is?
		Some sort of religious event?
		Possibly.
		Some sort of a catastrophe?
		Always possible.
		Some sort of earth change?
		Definite possibility.
		I've been kind of rolling them over in my mind what it might be, but I really don't know.
		Ed asked me if I wanted to know, and I said, no, better not to.
		The big story is, Defense Secretary William Cohen said today that Iraq has apparently been able to maintain enough chemical and biological weaponry to, quote, kill every man, woman, and child on the face of the earth, end quote.
		And of course, we believe they have it hidden away, probably in one of Saddam's personal enclaves, castles, homes, whatever it is.
		He's apparently got somewhere between 20 and 200 tons of VX.
		That's V as Invictor X as an X-ray, a lethal nerve agent, and about 6,000 gallons of anthrax.
		So, I guess we are going to force a confrontation.
		It looks as though the UN inspectors are going to demand to go to the 60-plus-odd sites that Iraq has declared to be off-limits, where, of course, is exactly where they have hidden all of this deadly stuff.
		And the Iraqis are going to say no.
		The UN inspectors, I'm drawing this out for you, the UN inspectors are going to leave Iraq in protest.
		And then the smart and dumb bombs will begin to fall and cruise.
		So I think that's probably what's going to happen.
		I think we were horrendously disappointed when Iraq appeared to cave into all demands and allow the UN inspectors back in.
		They said at that time heart blanche, of course, they're not giving it.
		And so now I really think that this is going to come to a head, and my guess would be the next seven to ten days.
		When you see the UN inspectors leave or get the big boot from Iraq in a cough, one way or the other, you will know you are then just days, two or three in all probability, away from a strike.
		And they're saying it will not be a pinbreak, meaning we're going to hit them hard.
		And all I can say is, if we really are going to do this, then let us finally do it right and kill that SOB.
		I know that we've got awfully good intelligence.
		And so, frankly, I hope that's what they're planning.
		They would never say so because, of course, officially we never target a head of state.
		But if a smart or dumb bomb should happen to fall where he is located, why, you know, you know how that goes.
		An ecological group in Chile, this is, by the way, from Reuters, is sounding an alarm about two-foot-long mutant rats.
		That's right.
		Mutant rats that have attacked barnyard animals in a suburb of Santiago in Chile.
		How would you like to meet up with a two-foot rat?
		Now, they don't exactly understand why these rats have grown so large and have mutated, but they speculate they fed on the droppings of hormone-fattened poultry.
		Hormone-fattened poultry.
		And I saw a long story earlier today about antibiotics that are given now as a regular Thing to chickens, and that antibiotic then is passed on to human beings, and it is contributing to a general resistance.
		And I'm using a milder word here because there are completely resistant strains of stuff, little guys that are beginning to build, which I consider clearly to be part of the quickening.
		President Clinton is a believer that there may indeed be UFOs, according to a Little Rock Associate.
		Check this out.
		When he appointed his friend Webster Hubble to a job in the Justice Department, he told him he wanted to go through government records and find out if UFOs existed.
		This is from the Daily Telegraph, by the way.
		He also, of course, wanted to know who really assassinated President John Kennedy.
		The startling insight into Mr. Clinton's convictions comes in Friends in High Places, a book by Mr. Hubble, who was the president's golfing partner in Arkansas and left government in disgrace, you'll recall, after pleading guilty to gulking clients of his legal practice of $482,000.
		He reveals the president made the UFOs a priority when he appointed him as Associate Attorney General.
		He writes, quote, Clinton had said, I want you to find the answers to two questions for me.
		One, who killed JFK?
		And two, are there UFOs?
		Clinton was dead serious.
		I looked into both, but he was not satisfied with the answers.
		So, I don't know what that means.
	I guess it means he did not get any definitive answer to who killed JFK and no definitive answer to UFOs.
	But he got some kind of answer, and I wonder what it was.
	You know, the great debate about frogs, and we, of course, have frog deformities that are showing up everywhere.
	Researchers now in Duluth think that UV radiation is what's causing the deformities.
	Now, this was the great scare in the unknown.
	What was causing the deformities?
	And they were talking about various earthbound things that they thought might have done it.
	But now, according to researchers in Duluth, they believe it is UV radiation.
	That was the big fear.
	And the reason they believe this is because, unfortunately, they have been able to duplicate precisely the deformities by irradiating frogs with UV radiation.
	So there you are.
	The Duluth experiment took a dozen batches of fertilized leopard frog eggs, 100 in each batch, and exposed half of them to ultraviolet radiation and all of them to different concentrations of methoprene, a pesticide used to control mosquitoes and some other insects.
	Of the frogs that developed nearly 50% that were exposed to the UVB rays for more than a couple of weeks, developed deformities in their hind limbs and digits.
	That's something you might want to certainly keep in mind.
	All right, I've got a lot more here that we could do.
	You remember the big brouhaha about sperm density?
	And you remember there was a big report that said sperm counts were declining all over the world?
	And then a second report that came back and said, no, sperm counts are what they always were.
	And now a third report, which says reanalysis of international data finds sharp decline in sperm density.
	After an extensive review of data from 61 published studies, three California researchers have concluded that a decline in average sperm density reported in the U.S. and other Western countries may be, brace yourself, even greater than previously estimated.
	Their analysis of data collected from 1938 through 1990 indicates that sperm densities in the U.S. have exhibited an average annual decrease of 1.5 million sperm per millimeter of collected sample or about 1.5% per year.
	My, my, my, my, my.
	Well, all of our other worries and concerns, if this continues, will be for naught, certainly.
	Because if this continues, we won't.
	So, at first it was a big alarm, then it was nothing, and now, once again, it's actually even a bigger alarm.
	Can you imagine that?
	What if we slowly sort of just stopped reproducing?
	Now, all of this, in the face of the recent story of the birth of seven babies, count them, and they're still alive.
	One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
	The trouble with this is that it used to be that if, of course, they used a fertility drug.
	But at one time I recall, if you had twins or triplets, people gave you stuff, you know, like diapers, maybe an occasional car, house, whatever.
	And I think the downside of the seven babies is it means people who have triplets, even quads, probably aren't going to get free stuff anymore.
	So if you're going to Have a bunch of babies, you better have at least six.
	Seven would be good.
	Eight, of course, would get you into the big payday.
	All right, we're going to do open lines until Ed shows up at 11 o'clock Pacific time, or certainly in a little less than an hour.
	If you want to take a shot at what you think, this is what I thought would be fun to do before Ed gets here, as to what you think the discontinuity is.
	I would be interested in hearing your speculation.
	We'll see if anybody hits it.
	And so we'll get down to business and open lines and your calls and all that kind of stuff here in a moment.
	Well, finally, finally, I can advertise it again.
	We advertised for the first time about a week, week and a half ago, Night Vision.
	Oh, it went crazy, and we sold out everything we could get our hands on, and then a little more.
	And so we just, they sold right out.
	And I think it happened because a lot of people feel the way I do about it.
	And without going and burdening you with the story I've told now several times about why I got night vision, you know, there were people near me here in the middle of the night and I couldn't see who they were and had to end up calling a sheriff and it really kicked me off.
	And had I had my night vision, I would have seen clearly who was out there and that never would have occurred.
	I'd have just let it go.
	You know, you don't know who's walking your fence line, why naturally you're a little freaked out.
	Anyway, that sent me some time ago on my quest for night vision.
	In other words, I want to know what the hell's out there.
	We've got tons of security lights and security systems around the house, but out past a certain point why it's dark.
	You can't see.
	And so I began personally to look into, you know, night vision.
	And that's how it's a product right now, because I spent a lot of time trying to figure out exactly what was the best on the market.
	And we've got it.
	It's by ATN.
	It's the MO2 Night Vision Scope.
	And I can't imagine why anybody wouldn't want to have one.
	What a great Christmas gift.
	In other words, what's going on in the dark?
	Do you have a dark backyard, front yard?
	I tell you, when you look through this, it's like daytime.
	Is somebody standing out there in the dark?
	You can see them.
	They can't see you.
	Animals and trees, animals running, coyotes out in the desert, man, I can see it all.
	It turns night into day.
	It has a built-in adjustable infrared illuminator so you can see in complete and absolute total darkness.
	It's got a 90 millimeter three-power F1.2 lens, is light and weight, easy to use, has a two-year warranty, is made in America, constructed here in America, has everything you would want in terms of backup.
	In other words, you know, for example, there are some Russian night vision things on the market out there.
	But I was, when I investigated all of this, extremely hesitant to buy anything made in Russia, not because it might not be good, but because if anything ever went wrong with it, well, you could imagine service under those conditions would be a nightmare.
	So, we've got it.
	Night vision.
	And if you want to get it, finally, we've got a few in again.
	Now, listen to me.
	These are going to sell out very, very quickly.
	So don't wait.
	When I say tomorrow morning you can get night vision, don't wait.
	Believe me, don't wait.
	It's $349.95.
	And it runs, by the way, on a 3-volt lithium battery that seems to last and last and last.
	I am still using the first 3-volt lithium that I got.
	You can get those in any hardware store or whatever.
	So I declare this the coolest new product of the year.
	That's what I say.
	The best new product of the year.
	Agent really was last year.
	This year, there's no question about it.
	Night vision is, actually, it's unbelievable.
	When you look at it, your mind is blown.
	You go, oh my.
unidentified		God, look at that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like you can see everything.
		So if you want one, and I consider this to be the very best, call the Z Grain Company in the morning at 7.30 a.m. Pacific time, 10.30 a.m.
		The East, adjust for your time zone at 1-800-522-8863.
		That's 1-800-522-8863, the Sea Crane Company.
		You are going to love night vision.
		Matter of fact, in most time zones, you've got about three days to get that done, and then it's all over.
		Okay, here we go.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Dave in Cape Coral, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dave.
unidentified		Yeah, yesterday I was real excited when I got my Art Bell Dark Newsletter and saw my tornado pictures on the front page.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, we follow up on things, Dave.
		That's why.
		We thought they were very cool pictures.
unidentified		Well, I appreciate that very much.
		And I just wanted to let you know that my prediction number one for 1997 did come true.
		It was a prediction number one on your New Year's show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which was?
unidentified		Jacques Villeneuve would be the Formula One World Champion, and he is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, we're getting close to the time, Dave, where we will pull out the predictions from the Bell family vault and begin doing new predictions.
		That occurs generally on this program between Christmas and the new year.
		And so yours will be the first reviewed, and it'll get a ding, ding, ding, ding.
		All right.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, anything else?
unidentified		That should do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Dave, thanks for the call, and have a good morning.
		Yes, it's worth reminding you that we do that.
		It is a ritual.
		A ritualistic.
		And you know what?
		The audience, I must say, has been doing very, very well in recent years in predicting things.
		Now, I wonder if that indicates, when you think about it, maybe a general increase in psychic ability in the population.
		Now, there's an interesting thing to contemplate.
		As we get closer to some sort of event, or if you wish, discontinuity, it may well be that more people out there are getting more intuitive.
		And maybe that's the way it was supposed to happen.
		Anyway, bottom of the hour.
		We'll be right back.
		is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		The Amazement Way The Amazement Way I can't buy.
		can't Love it good.
		Doesn't come.
		We've got to get right back to where we've got to go.
		We've got to get right back to where we've got to go.
		To reach Artfell in the Kingdom of Nye from east of the Rockies, dial 1-800-825-5033.
		That's 1-800-825-5033.
		From what's 1-8-8255.
		That's 1-800-618-8255.
		First time callers, dial ART at Area Code 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		This is Coast to Ghost AM with Art Bell.
		Now again, here's Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Peer to be here once again.
		Good morning, everybody.
		This, of course, is, you know, Thanksgiving week.
		Matter of fact, let's see what is today anyway.
		Tuesday going into Wednesday.
		Did you send flowers?
		If you didn't, then you still can.
		And you can do it because I've got a great sponsor named Absolutely Fresh Flowers.
		They are, of course, a flower farm in Southern California that sells flowers to all of you, straight to you.
		And I don't know that flowers will help head off the great discontinuity, whatever it's going to be.
		But one small step, you know, little steps, a step at a time.
		Individual action.
		And believe me, when you send flowers to somebody you love for Thanksgiving or for any reason, birthdays, anniversaries, whatever, it's one definite small step for mankind and you.
		When I say mankind, I mean that metaphorically and literally.
		$42.95 is the price.
		And it's a good deal.
		It includes delivery by FedEx.
		And they get this giant box, a triangular box full of flowers and a card from you with whatever you want to say and your name at the bottom handwritten.
		Good deal, huh?
		So Holland, what else can I say?
		1-800-562-6438.
		That's 1-800-562-6438.
		Absolutely fresh flowers.
		Okay.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, pray tell?
unidentified		I'm calling from WWSC, Glenn Falls, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And I want to tell you what I think is the problem with the rats in Chile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		I grew up there.
		I was raised there.
		I was educated there.
		And I went to Santiago high school there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, rats are the last thing you want to find in Chile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I usually have crackers.
unidentified		Well, I think back in the 70s, they discovered that birth control pills were good for houseplants.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Birth control pills were good for houseplants?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Does it prevent their accidentally spilled one into a plant that grew to be the most beautiful houseplant you'd ever want to see?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I once took a birth control pill by mistake.
unidentified		You what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I took one by mistake once.
unidentified		Anyway, the houseplant started to grow big and beautiful and gigantic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For me, it was just I noticed my voice raised about an octave for a while, but it turned to normal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you're serious.
unidentified		I'm serious.
		I grew up down there.
		I spent my first 22 years of my life down there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine finding a two-foot rat?
unidentified		Oh, God, it's scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two-foot rat.
		Now, I mean, do that with your hands.
		That is a dog-sized rat.
unidentified		I don't have to do it with my head.
unidentified		I can just picture it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sharp little teeth.
unidentified		But I think the hormones, if they're feeding hormones to the chickens, along with rats probably eating, maybe they used it in their gardens to get the biggest strawberries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well said, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you think the real answer is birth control pills?
unidentified		Well, maybe it's a combination of both.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a hormones.
unidentified		When did they start giving them the hormones to the chickens?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean, no, not hormones.
		I was talking about chickens.
		You mean the antibiotics.
unidentified		Oh, I thought you said they were giving hormones to the chickens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		Antibiotics.
		And they are developing resistance to certain chicken diseases.
		And a lot of this is getting passed on to people, I guess.
		If you don't cook it right, of course, it gets passed on to people.
unidentified		Well, I think that's a government statement.
		But I do know for a fact that the women, with their houseplants, they were just, and they started doing it in Colombia and in Peru.
		You know, the word gets out, who's got the best house plants?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course.
roger leir ▲ ● ▼		And if it takes birth control pills, it takes birth control pills.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of tempting to try that.
		I wonder if you ground it up or you just sort of stuff a pill down into the dirt.
		That's tempting to try.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everything we do has consequences.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give birth control pills to plants and get rats.
unidentified		Two-foot-long rats, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wallguard line, you're on the air.
roger leir ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How you doing, Ars?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm okay.
unidentified		Hey, you know, I was just coming up with a programming idea for one of your next guests.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were.
unidentified		This is Tony in Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Tony.
unidentified		Wouldn't it be neat to get a guest on your show that could discuss what they do with the, let's say, the UFO videos and so forth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
unidentified		That get on, like, you know, sightings and strange universe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean what they do with them?
unidentified		Well, the screening process that they have to go through just to be until they finally get on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have to be real UFOs.
unidentified		Well, yeah, but I know that for a fact that if somebody took a picture of a UFO...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've got to look good.
		You know, sometimes you get foggy, fuzzy, lousy little, you know, obviously frisbees or something.
		And, you know, so they've got to look good.
		I mean, so it's no big deal.
		I mean, I'm in touch all the time with the people at Strange Universe, and it's a matter of what looks good and what looks credible and what looks crappy.
unidentified		Right, but even if something looks crappy, if it's being screened and then the CIA says, hey, that's, you know, nothing that you can have on your program.
unidentified		We don't care how terrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't believe that, Tony.
unidentified		Well, it would be neat the process that they go through and how many times they've been talking by people like the CIA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		All right, thanks, Tony.
		No, no, go there.
		I know the people at these programs.
		I know them.
		And trust me, if the CIA were to come in and say, you can't run that UFO picture, it would be such a gigantic story that they would probably promo the damn thing in Sweeps Week for a month, get on my show, say, hey, men in black, CIA types, came in and said, we can't run this one.
		Want to see it?
		Want to take a ride?
		So, no, I don't buy that at all.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Yeah, Art.
unidentified		It's Vince in Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vince in Chicago.
unidentified		I'm going to make a stab at Ed Dames in the...
		Yeah, the year 2012.
		Okay.
		I think it's a pole shift.
		That is the actual year of the pole shift.
		I'm kind of amazed that it seems like every other guest of yours on the program for the past month has mentioned the pole shift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about it.
unidentified		It's amazing.
		And, you know, I've been thinking a lot about this.
		And I kind of believe that this might be one of the great secrets of our planet.
		The fact that there may be a pole shift that happens with regularity every 12,000 years, let's say, and it wipes out the planet.
		And it's one of those forbidden secrets that we're not supposed to know about.
		And if our government or somebody knows about this pole shift, they're not going to tell us.
		They're just not going to tell us.
		You know, because it would cause more problems than anything.
		Everyone would be heading out to the mountains of New Mexico like Richard Oakland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For what, though?
		I mean, to what end?
		If the pole shift, then, you know, if you believe the worst, then everything's going to more or less get wiped clean anyway.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		So what use would it be that if this knowledge was known by someone, what knowledge, what purpose would it serve that, you know, that we would, you know, if we told everybody about it, like I said, we'd all head for the hills.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we'd run our credit cards up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, general disorder and dismay.
unidentified		I kind of find it kind of unusual that Richard Hogman did move up to, you know, what is it, 8,500 feet above sea level over there in New Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he's expecting a flood.
unidentified		Well, I've documented a lot of his programs with you and him, and I know he's talked about the boat people, the Nordic people, building their arks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will give you a disturbing bit of information.
		Okay?
		A little preview.
		You want some disturbing information?
unidentified		Go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I had Ed send me a quick bio so I could introduce him tonight.
		I don't know what I did with the old one I had on him, right?
		And you know what it says?
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Under personal category, it says home, Beverly Hills, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One more month.
unidentified		And he's moving.
		Yeah.
		That's a good question I'm asking.
		Where is he going?
		I know you mentioned caves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he doesn't really want to say.
		He doesn't exactly say.
		He says west and south.
unidentified		That's my whole point, Art, that if there are people in the know that know that there's going to be a poll ship someday, let's say, or some year, they're not going to tell us because they are staking out their claim to be the survivors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what we have to hope for, Vince?
		You know, like in Iraq where we use the phrase moving the goalposts, all right?
		We've got to hope they move the pole posts.
		Got to go, Vince.
		Okay, take care, Art.
		You too.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello, Art.
		Hello.
unidentified		How's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going.
unidentified		This is Mike at St. Peter's.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		St. Peter's.
unidentified		Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right?
unidentified		Yeah, around St. Louis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I was taking a stab at this Major Ed Dame's prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the discontinuity is.
unidentified		I kind of had a remote viewing of my own on this whole deal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come on now, don't let that buzzer sound.
unidentified		Oh, well, I won't.
unidentified		I just had a view of a great wind, like a jet stream, blowing like hot air across the Earth's surface.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, the jet stream has already been predicted long ago to come down on deck by a dames, and I'll be damned if it hasn't been.
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that was a long time ago.
unidentified		Right, yeah.
unidentified		Well, this one, I had kind of like a, showed kind of like a military person standing in a field with a large pickle crock gathering cow chips.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gathering cow chips?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For what?
unidentified		Well, that's just what he's gathering his cow chips to make it fit in his crock.
unidentified		And that is what Ed Dame's predictions are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A croc.
unidentified		With the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Using the top?
unidentified		Yeah, big crock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, you know what opinions are.
unidentified		I haven't minded either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what opinions are like, right?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're kind of related to cowchips.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's got one.
unidentified		Hey, it's when are we going to get an affiliate here in St. Louis again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, it's interesting you should say that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How does a week sound?
unidentified		Oh, really?
unidentified		Who's going to be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My lips are sealed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got to go.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		Yeah, it says Beverly Hills, California.
		One more month.
		East of the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you?
unidentified		This is Mark calling from Collinsville, Illinois on Satcom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mark.
unidentified		I'd like to point out that your interviews with Dr. Gold and Bob and Kathy Guccion are a great public service.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it you heard Dr. Gold last.
unidentified		I've been following this very closely.
unidentified		You are to be admired, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate that.
unidentified		I've been following very close.
unidentified		Are you planning on having Robert Morningsky back on your show in the near future?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		How soon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Soon.
unidentified		Soon.
		And one more thing.
		How about Thomas Van Flandren?
		He made this comment about Hill Bop, the third tail, having sodium or ocean water.
		There was no follow-up on that.
		A very interesting...
		Well, you know, Heaven's Gate sort of killed all that.
		And it really didn't go anywhere.
		Well, it's still in the southern hemisphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is, but we don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're not seeing it.
unidentified		And one more thing, about the Cisteria.
unidentified		It's in the Northern Sea now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		They have detected Cysteria in the North Sea.
		Want something to worry about, worry about that?
		On the international line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yes, Artisan, the Roman Vancouver, British Columbia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		I would like to contribute to the discussion about the coming changes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		At the beginning of the 70s, back in Poland, in Warsaw, I participated in kind of private researches regarding parapsychology.
		And I would like to tell you something very interesting.
		We did some researches regarding certain states of mind in hypnosis.
		The objects were young students studying at the World University at that time.
		And I participated in these experiments.
		I noticed something very interesting when the experiments were regarding time progression.
		The subjects were giving the suggestion of the time going forward in the increments of about two years, sometimes four years, and the subjects were asked to put the signature on the paper.
		And, believe me or not, I've seen it many, many times.
		People, young people in their early 20s or around 19, 20, 21, 22, they were putting signatures.
		When the suggestions about time were changing, they changed their signatures.
		What we noticed was that some of them, when he reached the year 2004, many young people just didn't want to sign, to put their signatures on the paper.
		And the reaction was they dropped the pens or put a kind of cross on the paper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a very question for very ominous.
unidentified		The question was, why aren't you putting your signature on the paper?
		I cannot.
		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I don't live.
		And, yes, it's very interesting.
		I've seen it many, many times.
		And all of them mentioned the same year, 2004.
		That was done in Poland, in Warsaw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if that's true, the best advice for you and for everybody else is play hard, life is short.
		Right?
		That is ominous, though.
		They either put a cross there, or when asked why they couldn't sign, said, because I don't live.
		All right.
		When it comes to information on ETs, I bet you can't get enough.
		And I bet you probably saw Area 51, the alien interview, a little tiny piece of it on extra or maybe strange universe.
		Well, we've got the full video now.
		And I'm getting emails and emails and emails.
		Please send me the number so I can get the tape.
		Just listen to me now, get a pencil, please.
		This is an apparent video of an alien being being interviewed by officials.
		Couch that a little at Area 51.
		Victor, who I interviewed on this program, spirited this out of Area 51.
		He's now in fear of his life in deep hiding.
		You know, I've had an offer out to re-interview Victor, and I've gotten nothing.
		Zero.
		No response.
		And I think that means he really is hiding.
		Because, you know, they'd really want to give this a kick if they could, so it'd bring Victor forward.
		So I think he really isn't hiding.
		Call 1-800-510-3420 now, right now.
		One.
		Oh, it's $19.95 plus shipping and handling.
		You can get it by calling 1-800-510-3420.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, this is Mary from Green Bay, Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mary.
unidentified		Hi, you were talking about the mutant, the frogs and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		The latest Duluth research is showing that it is due to ultraviolet radiation, and they can prove that because they can duplicate it.
		That's how socioscience works.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Because there's been times like we'll be listening to the weather, and I don't know, but they talk about like the radiation in the air is so strong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they give UV counts, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Okay, and I was wondering, you know, has Chernobyl, like, would that nuclear radiation still be in the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Over there it might be, but it has nothing to do with the UV radiation count.
unidentified		Okay, but it wouldn't, would it, would it still stick in the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because now, were you to ask me, might it have something to do with the two-foot-long rocks in Chile, then we might be on the right path.
unidentified		That's just what I'm wondering, and all the nuclear testing that they're doing.
unidentified		You know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you tempted to put a birth control pill on a plant?
unidentified		No, I would not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even if you knew your plant was going to grow, it'd be twice as big?
unidentified		No, no.
		That's against Mother Nature.
		That's the way I look at it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But anyway, I don't know.
		It just seems like nobody's really talking about the nuclear events that have been going on.
		And with all the diseases that are forming and I talk about it all the time.
		Well, I know you do, but the government doesn't, and the Navy doesn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		They don't.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think they don't?
unidentified		Well, I think they think we're stupid or something, or we'd be too scared.
unidentified		It's like they're putting one over on us, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they could be right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, if you know something is going to happen no matter what it is, and you know that people would panic if they knew about it, and the panic would cause needless early demise of people, then you might make a decision, and properly so, not to disseminate the information.
unidentified		Oh, well.
unidentified		I mean, do you want to know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, let's say you knew something horrible was going to happen in six months, and if you'll listen next hour, that could be the case.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you want to know, is the question.
unidentified		Well, I'm listening to your radio station, so I guess that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but are you going to be listening next hour?
unidentified		Yes, I will.
unidentified		All night long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Have a good night, Erthie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, you too.
		Thank you.
		Coming up next is SciTech Major Ed Dames.
		And finally, we are about to know what the Great Discontinuity is.
		Now, of course, we're not going to lead off the show with that, so don't expect to hear that right away.
		You know, I don't work that way.
		We are going to, for the sake of the new audience, educate them just a little bit about what remote viewing is and what it is not.
		At any rate, the one you've been waiting for, Major Ed Dave's next.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
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		Coast AM To fax Art Bell in the Kingdom of Night, title Area Code 702-727-8499.
		That's Area Code 702-727-8499.
		Please limit faxes to one or two pages.
		This is Ghost to Ghost AM with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and I am now going to issue my standard warning.
		The material straight ahead in this program is going to be extremely disturbing to some people.
		We are going to have Ed Dames, I text Major Ed Dames, who is actually part of our own government's remote viewer program.
		And we will endeavor to give you the 101 short version of what remote viewing is here shortly.
		But we did, the U.S. taxpayers, in fact, they did a whole nightline show about it, spent millions of dollars over many years on remote viewing.
		Major Dames was in that program.
		Remote viewing is able to, and I hope I don't misrepresent this, but look at an object or occurrence anywhere in the world through space and time, into the future, into the past, or look at present situations.
		Obviously, the military used it for very pragmatic reasons.
		Intelligence work.
		They used it during the Iraq War and on and on and on and on.
		Well, Major Dames has now retired and began a company called SciTech.
		That's PSI Tech.
		And we'll try and give you an idea of remote viewing of what it's all about here in a moment, as I said, but there is no doubt about the fact that what you are going to hear tonight is going to be extremely disturbing to some people.
		And if you have children in the room, act like a parent and get them out.
		If, in fact, this kind of information disturbs you, you get out of the room.
		Go turn off the radio.
		Go listen to Music, whatever.
		I don't know.
		I just serve up that warning because inevitably I'm cascaded for presenting this kind of information.
		And so, if you're the kind of person who is disturbed by it, consider yourself to have been warned.
		Having said that, coming up in a moment, Scient's Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now comes Major Ed Dames.
		Let me tell you a little bit about him, all right?
		In 1967 through 74, he was U.S. Army, enlisted, airborne infantry, army security, that kind of stuff.
		In 78, he went to ROTC, graduated as a distinguished military graduate, University of California at Berkeley.
		In 79 through 82, he was with the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment, Nuremberg, Germany, Tactical Electronics Warfare Officer.
		In 1982 through 4, he was U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command Systems Exploitation Department, a targeting officer.
		In 84 through 88, he was with the Defense Intelligence Agency, DIA, a Directorate of Scientific and Technical Intelligence, Training Officer and Operations Officer, and then 88 through 91, Headquarters Department of the Army, Special Operations, 91, retired from the U.S. Army in the rank of major.
		His educational background is 74 through 77, UC Berkeley, Biophysics, 78, a BA in Chinese, San Francisco State University.
		He was born in Hackensack, New Jersey in 1949.
		His home is in Beverly Hills, California, but that's only for one more month.
		His interests include physical fitness, martial arts, human potential, frontier sciences, religion, fluent in Chinese Mandarin.
		That certainly may come in handy.
		Now, as I said earlier, our government for many years spent a lot of money on remote viewing.
		Ed Dames has taken it to the private sector.
		Ed Dames, of all the things he said on this program, the one most disconcerting thing has to do with something that he calls the discontinuity.
		Now, what does that mean?
		Well, there is a year past which remote viewers cannot see, or it's kind of like a barrier, at least for a period of years, and they simply have been unable to see what's there until now.
		Now, a lot of people have speculated the discontinuity might be some sort of pole shift.
		It might be, what else did we hear?
		I had a bunch of faxes here about what it might be.
		People have guessed quite a few things.
		Electromagnetic shift going through some faxes.
		Other people have thought a religious event of some sort.
		You heard somebody mention a cross and that people would refuse to write their name past a certain year.
		And so forth and so on.
		So a lot of people have a lot of guesses, and the guessing, I guess, is about to end.
		As is the dry weather here, rain is on the way as the El Nino continues to build.
		San Francisco getting a downpour right now.
		And I guess it's going to be raining here by tomorrow.
		Here from Beverly Hills, California, one of the last times we'll be able to introduce him this way is Major Ed Dames.
		Major, welcome.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, Arn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
		I have missed your program for quite a number of nights, except for last night.
		I caught most of that.
		And it dealt with the TWA 800 and the topic of perhaps a missile attack.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And I know that you, of course, disagree with that and have reached other conclusions.
		We'll get to that Ed, but listen, we've got a lot of new listeners out there, and they have no idea what remote viewing is.
		And so just a short version, if you would, you spent years in the military doing it now, years as a civilian.
		And so tell people what remote viewing really is.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It is a way that one train, we are trained psychics.
		That's what we were in the military in a top secret unit.
		We are trained to gather as much general information, data and sketches, information and sketches about a target, a person, place, thing, or an event, in a 45-minute period, as much data as possible.
		We are alert and attentive when we do this.
		It's not an altered state.
		And generally speaking, what we do is we take advantage of, avail ourselves of a discovery.
		Discovery was discovered in a laboratory in 1983.
		And the discovery is in essence the way that the unconscious mind communicates information to conscious awareness without sort of the syntax and the grammar for the way it does that in a way that precludes imagination from entering into the process or interfering with that data stream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing I know you did was to locate some gas canisters in Iraq.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We've done nothing but very high-level missions.
		We're sort of a national asset, if you will.
		There are very few of us who are trained to the degree that SciTech experts are trained.
		And so we generally do high-level missions.
		And although SciTech does not engage in government contract work, we will still do initiative projects.
		And that's what we did for the National Transportation Safety Board on the CICWA.
		This was an interesting project because as the operations and training officer for the military psychic team in 1988, We actually broke open the case on the Pan American Flight 103 that exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland.
		We tracked down for the FBI the perpetrators of that event.
		So we found the terrorists.
		In that case, it was a terrorist attack.
		And we did find them for the Bureau.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I recall.
		And again, trying to impart to people what remote viewing is.
		A remote viewer is a controlled, disciplined individual.
		And when I say controlled, controlled by somebody else.
		In other words, they are given a number, a simple number, as I understand it.
		And they then do not go into an altered state, but begin to form impressions and begin to visualize what the target is.
		Now, the only thing that I've never clearly understood at all about remote viewing is they're given a number, and then somehow they come up, for example, they will draw a picture of gas canisters and describe a location as though they see it or their impressions of what it is and where it is.
		I think this is pretty close to the way it works, but I've never understood what that number really represents.
		In other words, how does that person's mind know what the target is?
		Is there a communication net between the monitor, the controller, and the remote viewer that goes beyond that number?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the number is irrelevant.
		It's simply for filing purposes, and it's as simple as one could as easily say ready, set, go for every target that we work.
		There is a communication at the unconscious level.
		If you do work with a monitor, tantamount to having a navigator in the back seat of an aircraft, allegorically speaking, then unconsciously, the viewer's unconscious mind picks up the cue, the targeting cue, from the monitor or the tasker.
		If you work by yourself and you select your own targets, my company teaches people to do this, to work alone, one selects one's own targets.
		And those could be front-loaded.
		And what that means is you will know what the target is.
		But you're trained to work against blind targets.
		Unconscious is trained to do all of the work.
		So during training, and during, as a control and technical operations, we do not allow the viewers to know what the target is.
		Unconscious must do all of the work.
		If you are your own target tasker, your own targeter, you select the target yourself, and then you're not communicating, your unconscious mind is not communicating with anybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it, Ed.
		I know that when you have taken up a project, a specific project, it takes a lot of time.
		People think that you're a psychic and they can say, what color is my couch?
		Well, that isn't the way it works, and you don't get a direct answer like that.
		Some of the work takes days, weeks, or even months to accomplish for a project.
		People need to understand that.
		So you're not a psychic in the classic sense that people, I think, tend to think of psychics, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I could not.
		I'm about as naturally psychic as a rock.
		A natural psychic can walk into a room and pick up certain sensations and know if this is a loving household or a murder was committed, that kind of thing.
		I can't do that.
		But I can run rings around natural psychics when it comes to detailing exactly what happened at a murder scene, where the murderer is present time, where the victim is, whether the victim is dead or alive, those kinds of things, because of these breakthrough techniques that we used in life or death situations or where deadly force was authorized, such as the Libyan invasion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		Let me ask this.
		An individual who has learned to self-task and remote view through your videotapes or whatever else, would their accuracy rating, percentile rating, be different than when your company puts or tasks several remote viewers to look into, say, flight 800 or whatever?
		In other words, would there be a difference in the number of hits?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It isn't measured in terms of hits.
		It's measured in terms of quality of the data.
		Generally speaking, someone who is trained by using the TRV tapes is 80% correct.
		80% of their data is correct.
		And the most that we, including myself, the best that we as individual viewers, even the experts can do, is about 90%.
		There'll always be a 10% to 20% error rate throughout the sessions.
		However, when a team of remote viewers, including a number of people who have been trained using the tapes, work together, a team of five or six people, when they work alone, independently, the mutually corroborating data is 100% correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		100%.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		100%.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that when your company tasks a group of viewers and finally puts their name to whatever the conclusion is, you can be damn sure that's going to be 100% correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Unless it's a jump through the hoop type of a situation where it's a stolen nuclear weapon or something like that, where we would have to come up with data very, very rapidly.
		And it is not real time.
		It takes about 45 minutes for just one session.
		In order for us to cross-check and double-check our work, we're going to have to run about five remote viewers three times each.
		That's a minimum of 15 remote viewing sessions times 45 minutes to come up to a conclusion that I, as president of the company, would sign my name to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		The somewhat less than amazing Randy continues to respond in an email war between yourself and his standing challenge and claims that you will not sign and fill out forms that he requires to do the test that would yield you, I don't know, a million plus dollars, Whatever it happens to be right now.
		And as you know, I have invited him on the program, and he has refused to come on to set up the conditions of the test.
		And I personally talked to the guy, and he was talking about putting a number in his safe.
		And he now denies he ever said that.
		Well, he did say it to me.
		And then I came back on the air and talked to you about it and issued the challenge.
		And every time I do, everybody emails the amazing Randy, less than.
		And he says, well, I'm not going to play the game.
		I'm not going to go on an art bell show and help him increase ratings.
		And I refuse.
		And so that's where it is now.
		Do you hear from Randy?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I hear from his minions or lackeys on the email.
		And frankly, Amazing Randy can keep his million dollars.
		I accept his challenge.
		And all I want is for him to eat his hat when we nail his target.
		And he can keep his mill or whatever he's got out there.
		But I'm telling you now, I'm telling all of you listeners, we can do this without any problem whatsoever.
		And I mean it.
		I stand by that.
		And I do not want his money, but I do want to see him eat his hat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I thought it reasonable that he would come on the program not for some spectacular deal, but just to simply publicly set up the conditions of the test.
		You know, I didn't like the idea that he was going to put the numbers in his safe.
		It ought to be in somebody's.
		It ought to be very controlled in a third-party location, it seems to me.
		Of course.
		So that deal can be done.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		What we suggested was a good way to do that is to have a disinterested party, actually a neutral party, simply write the name of a target on a piece of paper and place that piece of paper in a safe somewhere.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's all that we require.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Because you see how we work.
		There's a chain of custody at the unconscious level.
		Whoever is the tasker, the universal mind, the collective conscious, unconscious, or actually what we call the matrix in our business, it knows what's going on.
		My old boss used to say it's okay to fool the enemy, but it's not okay to fool yourself.
		We know what the task is.
		As soon as we turn our attention to the task, unconscious attention follows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you were in the military program, Ed, obviously the military was only concerned with the here and now, targets, biological canisters, whatever it is they were after.
		It was military-oriented stuff.
		I'm curious, at what point did it dawn on the RVers, remote viewers, that you could actually not just look at present time, but you could travel in time, look at the past, or even, more importantly, look at the future?
		When did it dawn on all of you that that was possible?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It started happening actually in the laboratory before the formation of a military team.
		Viewers were slipping around in time.
		They were describing targets that were supposed to be in a docket.
		They were describing targets that were too up in a docket or a target that had been chosen a day before, those kinds of things.
		So viewers were very loose in time.
		We had to straighten that, we had to tighten that structure up.
		Mind is outside of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was that a disturbing thing for the remote viewers to find out?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It was disturbing for the researchers because it meant that there was no control and that since it was a government-funded project, if they could not know where the viewer was in time, they couldn't sell this to the Department of Defense.
		And therefore, they...
		No, that's not what ended up.
		It ended because all of the controls became so lax and loose that it was no longer functional.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
		All right.
		Ed Dames, Major Ed Dames, Sitex Ed Dames, is my guest.
		And now I think you might have a little bit of an idea of what remote viewing is.
		Wait till you hear what's to come next.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and once again, here I am.
		My guest is SciTech Major Ed Dames.
		The subject, remote viewing, the question we will get to eventually, the discontinuity.
		But first, we're going to cover much more of what remote viewing is and what it is not.
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		Howard from Chico, California writes, Hey, Art, have you check out the earthquake activity at Mammoth Lakes lately?
		There have been over 2,000 earthquakes in the last few days.
		Yes, I am fairly well aware of what's going on at Mammoth.
		And then we've got one more prediction on what the discontinuity is.
		Hi, Art.
		My guess on the major's discontinuity?
		A very large gargantuan time compression.
		No doubt orchestrated by Colonel Haynes, with what few psychics may remain within the government.
		That was a joke.
		Major Dames, welcome back.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		By the way, Art, the Long Valley Caldera, there at Monmouth Lakes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I had said that a good thing that ForsciTech could do in terms of predictive studies rather than just present-time studies would be to look at, and we use this as a targeting cue, the next volcanic eruption.
		And we qualified that search term.
		This is just like a library search.
		We qualified it with North America.
		And it actually took us a while to do this because we were in fairly homogeneous terrain.
		But it is the Long Valley Caldera.
		Now, what do we gain by doing that?
		About any, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that that's probably the next place that's going to erupt.
		But we use the same methods in everything that we do.
		And sometimes we come up with the mundane and jejune and an answer that anybody could get.
		But other times it's very singular, as in the case of the next use of a nuclear weapon in anger.
		And there, that's not entirely predictable.
		It's a singular event.
		It could not be predicted.
		So we use the same methods to find, whether it's to find somebody's lost dog or stolen nuclear weapon, or in a predictive sense, to look at the next event.
		Because next and present, in terms of ideas or vectors in the matrix, are the only temporal cues that we know we can trust.
		The idea of present time, where is a target in present time, or what, or describe the next event.
		Any other point in time is very difficult for us.
		It's loose.
		It takes a lot of work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you please qualify things?
		Last time you said the same thing, just sort of as a reference point, you said lost dogs.
		And I got a million emails asking you to look for people's dogs.
		You don't do dogs now, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I use it as an example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think I would do it if my cat were missing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		However, that would be a very difficult target.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It would be, we ran into similar things looking for Manuel Noriega or Momar Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did locate Noriega, didn't you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It was a shell game type of thing because these were targets that knew we were after them.
		And they, what we had to do, because it takes us at least two hours, it took the military team at least two hours to come up with some type of conclusion that could be useful to a targeting team.
		The target had already moved, the person had moved on to the next target.
		So there are two ways around that.
		We can use the term next in terms of next location or next target location, or we can go into the target's mind present time, let's say Muammar Qaddafi, and attempt to discern where he is looking at moving next.
		So there's more than one way to skin a care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually in their mind.
		Yep.
		We've talked about this before.
		That is remote viewing, remote sensing, some people call it.
		Princeton has done a lot of research.
		They call it remote sensing, but they absolutely believe it is a valid discipline.
		And I have asked experts who did the work at Princeton, and I will ask you again, is it possible to remotely not just sense or view, but influence?
		In other words, to actually cause somebody to imagine they're having an idea or to affect their behavior or thinking in any way?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I was up at Princeton about three or four months ago, and they're about 15 years behind in the remote percepting or remote viewing arena.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But you know, they're the world's leaders in terms of psychokinesis work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In terms of mind over matter, man-machine interfaces, they have statistically validated the existence of that phenomenon.
		In terms of influencing another human being, no.
		We were not able to achieve that in the military.
		We put a lot of resources into it.
		Not as much as remote viewing, but some resources, and it was not a doable thing.
		However, it can be done with equipment.
		It can be done electromagnetically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Right now, we're having a big go-round, as you well know, with Iraq again.
		Looks like I'm making a prediction that in seven to ten days, we're actually going to be back at war.
		I think that the Iraqis are not going to allow these 60-plus sites to be looked at.
		We're going to intentionally provoke a confrontation by going straight to those sites, and we're going to then get kicked out again, or we're going to leave, and then the bombs will fall once again on Iraq.
		Now, the late news tonight is that by William Cohen, our Defense Secretary, Saddam Hussein has been able to get together enough chemical and biological stuff to kill every man, woman, and child on the entire face of the earth.
		Now, it seems to me the location of that stuff would be a good target for you.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we did this for the United Nations, as you know, in 1991.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But let me qualify something.
		I was one of this country's biological warfare case officers.
		It was my job to protect the country against lesser developed countries and major nations' use.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, then maybe you can help me out with something here.
		They're saying that he's got VX, Victor X-ray, a lethal nerve agent.
		What is VX, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		VX is just that, a very lethal nerve agent.
		It's a U.S. variant on a nerve agent.
		The former Soviet equivalent was VR55.
		It stops your breathing.
		I won't go into all the biophysics and what happens at the molecular action site, but it essentially will shut your breathing down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's sufficient.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Now, he does have a lot of biochemicals, but you have to apply them and you have to weaponize them.
		So even though you might have enough to kill every man, woman, and child in the world, that's not saying a lot.
		You've got to be able to put those, to weaponize them, and make sure your weapons work the right way, and that is a science.
		And yes, he's got enough to do some damage in the Mideast, but not to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He would have to backpack them in across the Mexican border or something to affect a U.S. city.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You would have to.
		The way to effectively do it would be to aerosolize any number of biologicals, anthrax variants, things like that.
		Put them in a truck, aerosolize it, drive around the city a few times at night.
		You've got to do it at night because when the sun comes out, the ultraviolet radiation will break the peptide bonds in amino acids and denature your organism.
		So it's a whole science art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's interesting.
		He's got 6,000 gallons of anthrax.
		That's a lot of anthrax.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But once you expose it to the sun, it's gone.
		Now, if it's underneath ground or underneath paint or anything else like that, it will last for centuries.
		The spores will last for centuries.
		And once you kick up the dust and you breathe it, you're dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the other, you could locate that, or you could locate for us, Saddam Hussein.
		Now, I know that we say that we don't kill heads of foreign states, but we want to kill them.
		I know that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We might want to do that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The problem with this man is that he's very shrewd.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And he has children travel around with him.
		So we're not a totalitarian dictatorship.
		We don't drop bombs on children.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as a matter of fact, he's got women and children now at all these sensitive locations.
		That's correct.
		So we are going to, maybe we are going to drop bombs on women and children.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, we would not do that, Arc.
		U.S. government would never do anything like that.
		At least no U.S. government, and I'm familiar with.
		There are other governments that would do it, but the U.S. would never do that, Arc.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, suppose we actually had intelligence, Ed, that he was really about to use some horrible biological weapon, something really awful, then we might do it.
		I mean, it really comes down to lives versus lives.
		And if we thought millions of lives were at stake and we knew where this stuff was, we might do it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think we would go after the batteries, the firing batteries, but it's possible that we would do that.
		But I think retaliation is the name of the game.
		The last time I checked in at the Pentagon, it was still retaliation in those terms.
		If those are used, our policy was tactical nuclear weapons in response.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any sense at all of what lies ahead with regard to Iraq?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think just as a gut feeling, I have not remote viewed the Iraqi situation.
		We're busy on other things that we're going to talk about momentarily.
		But I agree with you.
		I think we'll provoke a reason to expend a lot of munitions and this time hit them a little bit harder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it'll be interesting.
		I think seven to ten days, probably somewhere around there, we're getting ready to challenge them.
		I think we're doing it all on our own timetable, and we know exactly what we're going to do.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I tend to agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are there any projects in the interim since we last talked, major remote viewing projects, other than the discontinuity?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We've dropped almost all of our initiative projects.
		In fact, we've dropped every one.
		We had a small project that was very interesting because it lends itself to illustrating our Module 2 tapes.
		And we're going to put that up on the website.
		And that deals with looking at the nature of Oh, listen, I was in Israel while Netanyahu was going through public relations hell because of what happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, yes, I'm familiar.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		What we did was identify the actual agent, the actual item that he was attacked with, what the Israelis used in that attack.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And we remote viewed that, and we're going to post a very good session.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you tell us a little bit about what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But apparently they didn't get the spray in the right place or enough of it or whatever.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Or the Israelis gave them the antidote.
		Usually when you develop a biological weapon, except the Russians, there were exceptions in Russia.
		When one develops a new weapon, a biological weapon, you can darn well have an antidote.
		Right.
		If it's a straight disease vector, you better have a vaccine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or it might bite you in the butt.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It might bite you very hard.
		You need a counter for even chemical weapons, too, as you know.
		In this case, it was a bacterial toxin.
		Now, we traced back the source of the bacterial toxin.
		Once we identified the toxin as bacterial, we wanted to see the source.
		And what we did was sketch a location that was within Israel proper where these bacterial toxins were being in vats grown and produced and weaponized, which means that Israel essentially has an offensive biological warfare program.
		But so what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No surprise there.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I heard earlier that 60 countries now are working on the poor man's, or have rather, the poor man's atomic bomb, yeah.
		And so I kind of wonder what lies ahead.
		I mean, maybe I've suddenly just hit on the discontinuity, but I might as well go ahead and ask what lies ahead in this arena.
		It seems to me we have, there's every chance we could do away with ourselves very easily with something like this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I could say a number of things about that.
		Starting with, When you make a new organism, it isn't, remember, it's alien.
		It's on alien turf the moment you aerosolize it and disperse it.
		So it's in an alien environment.
		If it is very viable, then it's still, if it's a biological weapon, it's still susceptible to a lot of problems.
		Sunlight, for instance, will denature a biological weapon many times or being exposed to sunlight for more than about 30 minutes or so, depending upon the nature of the weapon.
		However, if it's a spore, that may not be the case.
		So we can go on and on about this.
		But the key is, and most civilians don't recognize this, the weaponization, the militarization of a biological weapon is very, very difficult.
		It is a science.
		It is not an art.
unidentified		It's a science.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It takes a lot of work and a lot of knowledge.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That knowledge is out there, but not with 60 countries, about 30.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About 30.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many does it take?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't take much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned earlier the next use of a nuclear weapon in anger.
		So I've got to ask, when is that going to be?
		Who's going to use it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		What do you know?
		What we use as a search queue that we know works, of course, is next.
		So we were concerned about Lebdev's announcement that the special atomic demolition munitions that the Russians had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The 100 backpack nukes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly, the 100 backpack nukes were missing.
		We were very concerned about that because the Russian mafia is a very powerful entity.
		And so what the company did as an initiative project is we targeted the search cue.
		We used the search cue of next nuclear weapon attack.
		And we qualified that with intent to kill and massive casualties, I believe.
		I don't have the target folder in front of me, the project folder.
		We needed to eliminate work against military weapons testing, for instance.
		We just put next atomic weapon use or next nuclear weapon use, we would get all kinds of trash, for instance, nuclear weapons tests and those kinds of things.
		We wanted to look at the use of a weapon in anger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Understood.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And instead, what we were trying to look at is to see if we could forestall or identify the place where a terrorist would be using a weapon, because that was our notion about how a weapon would be used.
		And instead, what we got was a very, very clear picture at the end of a week of the North Koreans using a nuclear weapon, a missile-mounted weapon against the South Koreans.
		Now, analytically, we think, analytically now, we think that this event may occur before the end of the winter.
		That's analysis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Before the end of this winter?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Before the end of this winter.
		I think the so-called peace talks will break down.
		U.S., as you know, still goes ahead with its winter exercises over there.
		We augment the already 30,000-so Americans with another 20,000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And to a starving country whose military is being fed by the Chinese.
		That is not only provocative.
		You know, what do you got to lose?
		The next generation of North Koreans, the South Koreans, may win by default.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but if they were to attack us in the South with a nuclear device, what they would have to lose would be the next generation of North Koreans.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think we would respond massively to such an event?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And where would you respond to?
		And which way would you be pointing?
		Anything with a pointed nose would be pointing towards, guess what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		China.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		So we'd pull out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'd pull out.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what would we do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Leave the South Koreans to fight their own battles.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There wouldn't be a battle.
unidentified		Another word.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We'd fight a ground war.
		We'd fight a ground war for so long.
		But if we couldn't retaliate with weapons of mass destruction, because you'd be bombing all the military would be piled up on the borders, all you'd have left is skinny civilians up north.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Major Ed Dames, Sytex Ed Dames, is my guest.
		When we come back, we're getting close to the discontinuity.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here I am, and my guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames, and this is going to be a rough night.
		So, again, I issue the standard Art Bell warning.
		A lot of the material you are going to hear tonight, particularly that coming up shortly, is, if you haven't already been disturbed, very, very disturbing.
		And for that reason, if children are listening, be a parent, get them out of the room.
		Use your discretion.
		If this kind of stuff bothers you, no doubt you can find standard political pap up and down the dial.
		So go elsewhere.
		We are going to find out this night what the discontinuity is, that which the remote viewers could not see previously.
		So back to all of that in a moment.
		And it never fails.
		I get these timely news stories.
		I've got one here from the New York Times that I'll read you in a moment.
		Nine.
		All right, clearing the wire at 5.55 p.m. Eastern Time, almost 9 o'clock here in the West.
		In the New York Times, it is going to appear later today, the following Associated Press story in part, more than 25 nations have or may be developing nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons and ways to deliver them.
		Our Defense Secretary, William Cohen, said the threat is neither far-fetched nor far off.
		That's a quote.
		He said, the front lines are no longer overseas, releasing a report that said Americans could fall victim to such an attack because criminal organizations and cults, as well as nation states, could deploy such weapons.
		The weapons are, he said, the poor man's atomic bomb, cheaper, easier to produce, and extremely deadly.
		So there you have it, Ed.
		That'll be in the New York Times later today.
		You know, it almost sounds like, and people always say this about things, but I've been listening carefully to the news lately, Ed, and it sounds to me like they are preparing us for something.
unidentified		Hmm.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		and I think it's probably Iraq.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know the real problem?
		Let's say that somebody managed to actually attack a U.S. city or water supply or sprayed in the night or whatever they did, and we were attacked.
		How would we know who attacked us?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You'd have to depend upon intelligence agencies, including the FBI, internal intelligence.
		That's the only thing you could do.
		Of course, as remote viewers, we could track down.
		You can't run or hide from this technology, from technical remote viewing, but it just takes a long time.
		And by the time you identify the culprits or perpetrators, they've moved.
		And then you only have one intelligence source.
		That would be TRV telling you that this country over here did that.
unidentified		We need more than one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Technical remote viewing.
		That's what you call it.
		All right.
		Dear Arn and Ed, this is from Tom in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
		I'd like to know if remote viewing was used during the Gulf War.
		Answer is, I can answer that, yes.
		In particular, he says, though, I heard rumors that remote viewing was used to target a bunker that was thought to be a command and control center, even housing Saddam himself.
		In fact, it turned out to be housing civilians.
		And of course, you'll recall the tragic results were televised by the Iraqis for all the world to see.
		Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		If we target Saddam Hussein, we're going to describe the bunker that he is in at the time that we target him.
		Whether or not the flyboys miss their target is up to them.
		It's up to what they do with the intelligence.
		We're not going to give false data or erroneous data to a targeting team.
		That's almost collateral damage, I'm sure.
		We just don't target.
		We don't do that.
		We don't drop bombs intentionally on civilians.
		This country is not a totalitarian dictatorship.
		The pre-McCarthy days were dark ages.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was going to suggest the exceptions of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And some unfortunate circumstances in Vietnam, too, when hatreds were really flared on both sides.
		But it is not our policy any longer to do that.
		These are the 90s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's equip.
		Things have changed.
		Well, yes.
		Now we, of course, don't intentionally target them.
		And when they do occur, we call it collateral damage.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		But that's a lot different than intentionally attempting.
		I used to recruit people for Delta Force.
		I used to recruit young troops for Delta Force.
		And I had to ask them, you know, Sergeant so-and-so, do you have any qualms about killing civilians?
		And the answer was, no, sir.
		Well, that was part of the answer that I needed, believe it or not.
		Because you couldn't have a person put a bullet through a civilian mistakenly and then have them try to, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many answered the wrong way?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A few.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A few.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that's not to say that the people that go into Delta are unethical or immoral.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's to say that they can live with the idea that they've accidentally killed a non-combatant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that really is an important question, living with it, because a lot of people who have been involved in combat, period, can't live with it and get this delayed stress disorder.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I could.
		In fact, if I could, I would have done other things, but I don't believe that I could do that.
		I'm not that strong, I guess.
		Speaking of that, I think I'm going to loosen up tonight because this may be my last program with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It'll be a while if I...
		No, it won't be.
		But it may be one of my last programs with you.
		So I'm going to loosen up a little bit more than I have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, that's good, I guess.
		I know, again, under your personal history, you listed ominously Beverly Hills as your location for one more month.
		And I asked you about that prior to the show, and you said, I'm packing now.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're packing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I told you I would last year.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		And so you're going to be gone and you're going to Polynesia.
		I beg your pardon?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Polynesia.
		That's where Project Starman is centered for most of my work now will be on the internet teaching technical remote viewing.
		I'm there part of everyday teaching.
		And all of our work will be centered on Project Starman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rough place to go, Polynesia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Project Starman is an effort to establish contact with others, correct?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It deals with contact and it deals with post-global cataclysmic reconstruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Post-global cataclysmic reconstruction.
		Uh-oh, here we go.
		All right.
		There was, and you've been telling me this, how long have you and I been doing interviews now?
		For two, three years, something?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, it hasn't been that long.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Seems like in fact, the predictive work that we've done began last year, and I said that in 1997, you'd have a few things happening, the weather of frogs, mutations, colours dropping down, seabirds dying as harbingers of dying oceans, those kinds of things that could be predicted if one really had their finger on the pulse of global ecology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if people went back to the first shows we did, there is no question about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You predicted every one of those things, and they've all come true.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But I told you that 1998 might be a hellraiser, and it's going to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was...
		A point that you couldn't read and that you couldn't understand and that you called it a discontinuity, for lack of a better word.
		You at one time said it might be some sort of spiritual or religious event, that it could be some sort of catastrophic event, but whatever it was, when you tried to look at it, what did you see?
		Simply nothing?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		When we as viewers attempted to discern this point in time, what was happening, all we could produce in terms of data were that the surroundings, the surface of the earth, was very, very barren.
		And whatever this was, it happened to the entire earth at once and to all people.
		But what it was, we couldn't discern.
		Now we understand why.
		Because whatever it is, it kills you.
		And in a fashion that we did not understand.
		We thought our perceptions, the moment that this event occurs, and we're remote viewing through time to this point, and I'll tell you what the timelines later.
		We were picking up the idea that if our physical selves were standing on the surface of the earth and this event occurred, something would happen to us that we had no experience in whatsoever.
		I talked about this before.
		I could not discern what would be happening to my body if I were at that point in time and in space.
		I postulated the possibility of a geophysical event, which we finally decided upon.
		For a while there, we thought it was esoteric or spiritual.
		We thought we were lifted up to another dimension or something like that.
		In fact, we are.
		We're dead.
		That is a doornail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is ascension.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At least we hope.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And then further work, it was disturbing because the timelines indicated that it was very close, very close indeed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I thought it would be nice if it weren't on my watch, if it were way out there in the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I hear you.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		For my kids or grandkids to worry about.
		But it turns out that it's right around the corner.
		So there was a sense of urgency in-house to attempt to figure out what this was.
		And we did pinpoint it down to a geophysical event.
		Then we had to discern what kind of geophysical event it was.
		Was it a sudden collapse of Earth's magnetic field?
		Was it a pole shift, the proverbial physical pole shift?
		Or was it a shift in the core magnet?
		What were we dealing with?
		And we finally nailed it down.
		We cross-checked and double-checked our work.
		And that's why I'm here tonight, to tell you that we've got it.
		We know what we're dealing with now.
		And we know how to protect yourself.
		We're pretty sure how to protect people if they choose to protect themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How widespread will the effects be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you confirmed that it is a complete global event?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We don't have 100% surety on that, but we know it's pretty much global.
		I can't firmly commit that it's the entire Earth, but it appears to be our.
		My best judgment at this juncture is that it appears to affect the entire surface of the Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'll get it to what I mean exposed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quite a bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did earn the name or the nickname Dr. Doom from some of your colleagues.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In both NCIA at White House and in other small circles in the intelligence community, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why did you get that nickname?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I always delivered a message that people didn't want to hear, either at the White House or in the Howard Halls or the Pentagon or in other places.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But one has to imagine that, particularly in the military program, your earned nickname was kind of unfair because the other remote viewers should have been seeing the same things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That name was given to me prior to my being assigned to the remote union.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It was used when I was a targeting officer at celestial levels of intelligence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was this because you intentionally targeted these kinds of things and questions or simply because you talked about them as opposed to the others who knew the same damn things and just didn't talk about them or avoided even trying to remote view them?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, in some cases, I and my colleagues penetrated them, and in other cases, we watched for them because, in all cases, they were weapons of mass destruction.
		But we weren't talking megatons and throw weights.
		We were talking about very exotic things that kill in very exotic ways.
		It's one thing to tell someone that this weapon may vaporize you in a couple of milliseconds or a picosecond.
		It's quite another thing to say that if you're exposed to this particular weapon, you will have Indian cobra venom being produced in your stomach in a matter of two hours by a genetically engineered E. coli.
		That's another thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, brother.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So that's the kind of thing I'm talking about.
		And I had to give a heads up to this country's leaders, both our militarians of the University of Capitol Hill and other places, to let them know that other countries were thinking along those lines and some were actually doing it.
		And so those were my kinds of targets, the sexy stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I've got, by the way, late news tonight.
		I don't know if you happened to catch the first hour of the show tonight, but researchers in Duluth have now linked UV radiation to the frog deformities that you predicted long ago.
		And for a while, the scientists puffed and puffed and said, nah, it's not UV.
		It's some sort of spore or some sort of something or another from snakes, something, you know, maybe pollution.
		But they've nailed it down.
		And in Duluth, they have proven, and by duplication, which is science, that exposure to UV radiation produces precisely the deformities that they're now seeing, unfortunately, all over the place.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Which is what I remote viewed a year ago.
		And I told you that it was a UV, and anything exposed to that degree of UV from an ever-thinning ozone layer in its developing stages will be mutated or killed.
		We are seeing it in the oceans as well as in the limnological sense in freshwater.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hysteria in the oceans, now the North Sea.
		Now, there was a big, big story about a sperm decline.
		Now, that would get us right there.
		If sperm counts ever went to zero, it's all academic, isn't it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We have to remake ourselves some other way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's happening.
		I mean, the big story came out that the sperm counts were drastically being reduced.
		Then another study came out and said study one was baloney, and they're as they always were.
		And now a third study says it's even worse than we thought.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And as we mentioned last year, Bovine AIDS finally is rearing its ugly head, and babies will begin dying of diseases.
		And diseases will result in a global economic collapse in spring or early summer at the latest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		98.
		Yes, we mentioned that too.
		That was one of the big hallmarks of 98.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will Asia have anything to do with this?
		I mean, what's been going on recently in Asia is astounding.
		We've all thought the Japanese economy was so sound, even too sound for us, and yet banks are collapsing, financial institutions are in trouble, stock markets in Asia are plummeting, and most of Asia, it's kind of like Domino's, is in big financial trouble.
		And we're talking about an IMF International Monetary Fund bailout of Asia.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a house of cards.
		Well, minimally, there's no more spilt underneath us.
		It's coming down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we are now part of that house.
		There's no question about it.
		The markets react to each other.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's why I said global economic collapse in 98.
		In early 98, at the latest, early summer.
		Late spring, early summer at the latest.
		So we can only get these ballpark figures.
		We can describe the events, but knowing where we are in time as remote viewers is a very tricky thing, and you better be expert when you do it.
		Even when you are, even when you know those techniques, you have to be very, very careful and run that target many times and get identifying characteristics to bracket yourself in time.
unidentified		It's tricky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold tight, Ed.
		When we come back, we will nail down specifically what this discontinuity is.
		And Ed said he had timelines as well.
		So that's coming up.
		By the way, my own personal weapon of mass destruction, our new dog.
		I have a dog.
		Can you believe that?
		Never in a million years would I thought I would have had a dog, but she came to me.
		Keith Rowland took some photographs of her.
		They're up on the website.
		Nobody has really nailed down what she is.
		I want to know what kind of dog this is.
		It's a wrinkled dog.
		I know that.
		She's kind of ugly, but she's kind of cute.
		She's certainly friendly.
		But she has big jaws, kind of looks like Park Pitbull or something.
		I wish somebody would go up to my website, take a look, tell me exactly what kind of dog that is when we come back.
		Ed Dames, more of Ed Dames, and the discontinuity.
		For a while.
unidentified		I see them blue for me.
unidentified		And I think to myself, what a wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is Coast to Coast A.M. from the high desert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stay right where you are.
unidentified		As the skies are blue, and try to fight the bright blessed day.
		Oh, you can die, you can die, and you can die for the night.
		Oh, you can die, you can die, you can die, you can die.
		To talk with Art Bell from west of the Rockies, including Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico, dial 1-800-618-8255.
		That's 1-800-618-8255.
		Now again, here's Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here again I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mark writes.
unidentified		Art, get to the point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ask him point blank, what's the event?
		You waste a lot of time with these delaying tactics.
		Your biggest fault as an interviewer, let the man speak.
		Actually, I thought it was one of my assets.
		I mean, you don't do as many shows with Richard C. Hoagland as I have done without learning something.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		All right.
		We're about to get to it.
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		The serious part is coming up.
		We are going to discuss the nature of the discontinuity, and it is going to disturb many people.
		If you're one of them, turn away.
		Go listen to something else.
		Get the children out of the room.
unidentified		Blah, blah, blah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because I suppose, unless you can think of some cool way to delay it just a little longer, Ed, we're going to have to tell them.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is going to frighten a lot of people, anger a lot of people.
		It'll be laughed off by those who just view your program merely as entertainment.
		And it is entertaining.
		But it may save a number of lives, too.
		And that's why I'm doing this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My program is no single thing ever, Ed.
		It ranges from the serious to the bizarre to the funny to the whatever it is I feel like doing that night.
		And so people, different nights, have different comments about my program.
		I refuse to be put in any single niche.
		And sometimes it's entertaining.
		Now, sometimes it's damn scary, too.
		And this is, I guess, one of those times.
		What's going to happen?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A very massive solar event, a historically unprecedented solar event, probably an extremely large flare of tremendous proportions.
		It's going to produce radiation, X-ray and gamma, and I don't know about protons or anything else.
		It's a complex event.
		It'll be a storm the likes of which we've never seen before, at least in the last 12,000 years.
		And it will eradicate or erase most of the living things on the surface of the Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And there's more.
		It is right around the corner, Art.
		That's why I'm saying this.
		I'm going to have to dig in soon, and I'll tell you what that means.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really, really, really don't like it when my own program scares me.
		It's been doing that lately because we have had a number of guests who have said roughly the same thing that we are now, and this is true, of course, we are entering solar cycle 23.
		And we are in, scientists now believe, what's called the rapid ascension phase of solar cycle 23.
		We have already had a number of ejecta.
		We've had a number of X-class flares, which are the largest there are.
		And no matter what a caller argued with me yesterday, I've got several articles here from scientists that believe this is going to be the largest active solar cycle in recorded history.
		I mean, this is mainstream science that's beginning to save this head.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it looks like there's going to be a precursor event.
		And I'm going to talk about timelines in a minute and a number of other things associated with this.
		And it is scary.
		It is very scary.
		The precursor event is going to be sort of a shot across the bell.
		And it's very easy to see why religionists, people like Malachi Martin and others, talk about this in a religious sense because it is a predictable thing in terms of the collective unconscious.
		In fact, people will begin massively to have dreams about these kinds of things as this huge event comes up over the horizon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be the intuitive part of all of us, I guess.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		That's correct.
		SciTech doesn't have any monopoly on that kind of truth.
		We only have a monopoly on the accuracy and the precision, at least right now, after the tapes are out in about four months studied.
		That'll be different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would be the nature of the precursor?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The precursor will be a smaller flare.
		And we'll have several days' notice on that one, but maybe, maybe a couple days.
		It'll still catch us by surprise, and it will be a very minor version of what's to come in what we think 99.
		Now, the event in 99 appeared, that's the best that SciTech can do.
		We think that around April-ish, around April, around Easter of 1999 is when the death blow is struck.
		And that the precursor event may come as early as next month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next month?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Possibly as early as next month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's why you are now packing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That would be the precursor.
		That's correct.
		And then what the precursor may do is if you're outside and you're looking up, if you do not listen to the warnings of meteorologists and astronomers who say, hey, there's a massive solar flare coming, we're not sure how big it is.
		It may interrupt radio transmission, blah, blah, blah.
		If you happen to be looking up and the interaction with the atmosphere, 150 miles of atmosphere, may be such that it would blind you, but you're going to feel it in terms of either heat or light optically.
		We think that the precursor event may be in December and that the big one may be in April of 99.
		It is possible, though, that the 99 event may be the precursor.
		I am not taking any chances.
		I'm digging in in 98.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, you're going to now be able to tell us how one might prepare oneself for this, for any of the events you predict to be coming.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, this one in particular, all the other things that will be happening in terms of vermin and particularly disease, those kinds of things, at least we stand a pretty good fighting chance with our bodies can still strike back if our immune systems are healthy enough and people know how to do that instinctively.
		But this one, which does appear to be cyclic, and I'm going to go out on a limb, and then later on in the program, I'm going to cut the limb off.
		You'll see what I mean by that.
		What we did with this discontinuity, when we were remote viewing the out years past the event that we heretofore did not understand, we saw that there were survivors, humans who were living underground.
		Humans were coming out and they were going in a very barren environment.
		They were going back down.
		That's how we discovered the chlorella vats.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I remember you're saying that.
		Of course I remember you're saying that.
		Humans would have to be living underground.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And we assumed that it was because of long-term ozone destruction.
		We did not know that it was mostly because of this sledgehammer effect of this radiation hitting Earth, X-rays and gamma rays, minimally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Interestingly, I'm sorrowfully having to repeat something I've had over the last couple of weeks when we've had guests who have talked about what's going on with the sun, and that is that the Israeli scientists recently concluded that there was no KT event, or if there was, the KT event is not what killed the dinosaurs.
		What killed them was our sun in an event just like you're describing right now.
		I mean, mainstream Israeli scientists believe this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Very interesting.
		Well, it's nice to have collaboration, but we're willing, at least in SciTech, to act on the information we know here.
		And let me, as an aside, it is very difficult for us as experts to convince our loved ones, even our children, that this is not millennial madness, that we are not crazy, although they've seen the work that we've done militarily and the police work.
		This is a real hard sell.
		And that's one of the reasons why I think the precursor event is at least a good thing, because it will scare people a whole lot more than I'm scaring them now, or at least your listening audience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and you think the precursor event may be as early as one month, and that there will be, of course, we know when an event occurs on the sun, when there's ejecta, when there's a gigantic flare.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We get notification of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Matter of fact, we've got a satellite up there, SOHO now, that looks for these events.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to put some of the best websites that I have found, the very best.
		I'm going to link those on my own website, on SciTech's own website in the next week so people can monitor those for themselves.
		They don't have to go through a middleman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, by the way, folks, we've got a link to Ed Dame's website right now on our website, www.artbell.com.
		Go down, scroll down to the guest area, and click on Ed Dame's name, Major Ed Dames, and you will go to his site, the SciTech website.
		And have you posted this on your site yet?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I have not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they're just hearing about this for the first time?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They are.
		I didn't want to scare people prematurely and have them take it out of context.
		And there are individuals in the chat room now, both graduates, instructors, and trainees, tape trainees there on the website.
		So it's an active website, 24 hours a day.
		I teach on the bulletin board, in that website, about four hours a day.
		People need to learn this, and they need to learn technical remote viewing for one good reason.
		They need to learn it.
		They need to put it to the test.
		They first have to go through the, oh my God, it's real experience for themselves.
		The only people you can really trust are yourself and God.
		When you put this to the test on something that's important, only then will you be convinced that the information is credible enough that people who are saying what I'm saying now can be believed and are credible.
		Because TRV is incredible enough, but this is way out on the limit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The event that may be a month off, Ed, other than not looking at the sun when we are bombarded with the radiation, and by the way, you should try and explain to me if you're able, there are two forms with what I know about, for example, a gigantic Flare.
		One form of energy hits us within a very, very short period of time, speed of light.
		And then there's a secondary form of energy that slams into the Earth's upper atmosphere several days later, generally.
		Which event is the one that is more significant for biological folks?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Because I think that this particular event, there are very few X-rays that hit the surface of the planet, hard X-rays.
		And there's very, very few gamma rays from our own sun that hit the surface of the Earth.
		But we think that those might be the things that are doing the controlled burn of the planet.
		But I am not sure.
		I don't know enough about solar physics.
		All I know is that it is going to be our sun.
		I don't think I have to study solar physics anymore.
		But I do need to know how deep we have to be to protect ourselves against the big one.
		And that is what SciTech is working on now.
		We're actually remote viewing the future to look at how deep the survivors are during that event.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		How about the first event?
		Would a house protect one?
		In other words, if you're indoors, would that be sufficient protection for the first event, do you think?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I just don't know.
		I know that we'll feel it.
		I know that it'll be an experience that everybody will unequivocally understand, but I just can't give you the physical parameters of it right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, but here's another one then for you, Ed.
		When this occurs, I think it is true that the side of the earth facing the sun, when it is struck, is the one that is affected.
		Now, obviously, it could atmospherically, I suppose, affect the entire planet, but generally the whoosh, boom of these particles slamming into the earth would affect the side facing the sun when the particles arrive.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct, but you still have a spray effect.
		So it's spraying the planet rather than hitting it, slamming.
		Yes, it does slam into the planet on the day side.
		But it's also a spray.
		So as a planet turns and the sun rises, that spray comes out over the horizon and it is being sprayed with radiation.
		It's interesting that the moon always points toward the sun.
		There's always a dark side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tremendous aurora borealis, I would think, associated with it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I can only assume solar physics are something that I am just not familiar with, and there's plenty of other people that can do that.
		And the links that I'll post on our company's website will have the names of the best in the world up there.
		I've spent the last several days finding the very best warning sites for something like this, the very best, sorting through about 30 of them, and I'll post those as links.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You'll actually see the sun in seven or eight different spectra.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can only conclude that the second event, that homes, houses, structures would simply not be sufficient to protect one.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, nothing.
		I think, I mean, if it were simply X-rays and gamma rays, if you were in, let's say, a basement in a deep building or a fallout shelter, when we find out how deep one would have to be, if that's deep enough, you still have to come back out.
		And if this event lasts for three or four days or more, then you're not going to want to come out of that basement.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You remember Father Malachi's prediction of three days of darkness?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I do, and I think that that may be because of this dust being lifted, actually lifted up.
		The weather effects in something like this would be tremendous worldwide.
		There would be a lot of dust in the air.
		It might even cause volcanism to some degree.
		I don't know.
		I do know that survivors, in order to survive, survivors are going to have to be deep.
		And that means that there's radiation involved.
		It's not just winds or something else like that.
		It's radiation.
		Probably X-rays or gamma rays.
		But it could be other things.
		It could be protons.
		All we're going to do is make it simple on ourselves in terms of understanding how to survive by remote viewing the depth at which the survivors are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a physicist, although I interview some, and it is my understanding that our magnetic field protects us from the effects, the more damaging effects of the sun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, is there anything you can tell us about the magnetic field that is associated with these sun eruptions?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not much, other than I know that it protects us from some extrasolar cosmic rays.
		It acts as a buffer, it combines with the sun's own magnetic field and Earth's magnetic field and protects us somewhat.
		But this event, this unprecedented event, which appears to be cyclic, and it appears to be so big, I don't know if even those burst in solar physics would be able to take all the permutations and put them together and say, well, we know that this is going to affect the Earth in this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the discontinuity then will eliminate the majority of life on Earth?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		For a while.
		It will sterilize the garden.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll be virtually instantaneous.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that's sure.
		I mean, for sure, if it's virtually instantaneous.
		It may be over a couple-day period.
		Any biological systems would be subject to radiation damage to the point where they would undergo stasis.
		So you'd have a lot of, minimally, a lot of corpses, a lot of decay after several days, a lot of things dying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ken, we have been warned at previous times.
		In fact, CNN ran a big story.
		All the networks did on a gigantic sun ejector that missed the Earth.
		This was, I don't know, a couple of months ago.
		And can you tell us anything about the nature of this first one?
		Because a lot of us are going to be looking for what you're talking about and deciding whether to act based on whether what you say about the precursor.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think the precursor would, my best guess is that, and it's only a guess, is that it is a big solar flare and it heads our way.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And there are ways that solar physicists have, and they understand all of the signatures for something that would develop into a solar flare that would be directed towards Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hold it right there.
		We're at the top of the hour.
		We'll break here, and when we come back, we'll try to get to the phone lines.
		My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
		One month, huh?
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
		Stay right where you are.
unidentified		Don't Touch That Dial.
		This is the dawning of the end of the Mary and Bell is taking your calls on the wildcard line at Area Code 702-727-1295.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and again, obviously, I'm issuing the warning that this really is very, very serious, disturbing material being presented tonight.
		If you can't handle it, tune away.
		If you have children in the room, get them out.
		I just got the following letter.
		Hi, Art.
		We've always had the feeling that the events Major Ed Dames has described will come to pass.
		These huge solar events will cause another polar shift to occur, and we puny human beings are going to have to start all over again, just as we've done every 10,000 years or so.
		No need to be afraid, Art.
		We mortals have always known that we're not going to leave this earth alive.
		Major Dames is merely stating that we're going to be recycled in a more interesting method than previously believed.
		Truth from the mouths of babes.
		I asked my 11-year-old son recently if he felt it was true that we are living in the final days.
		I also asked him if he felt there would be any signs of the forthcoming event.
		Being an avid Nintendo game player, he quickly answered the Almighty would simply arrange the clouds in the sky to read game over.
		Listen, Christmas is coming, and I'm sure you have at least one or two already.
		I've got everything kind of people on your Christmas list.
		Well, in all likelihood, anyway, they don't own a star named after them.
		Tom Cruise.
		I know it sounds like a joke, but it is a star named for $45.
		Actually, you can get a star named after anybody you wish.
		Just call International Star Registry at 1-800-282-3333, and they'll send a beautiful, and it really is beautiful, full-color parchment certificate of record, sky charts to help locate the star, and a fascinating booklet on astronomy.
		The new star name is entered in the registry's book and recorded with the U.S. Copyright Office.
		So you can really get a star named after you.
		For more information, call toll-free 1-800-282-3333.
		That's 1-800-282-3333.
		This year, give a gift that's truly out of this world.
		Now, I've got, if my dear wife is listening in the other room, and she is awake, she wanted to know like everybody else what this discontinuity was, if she would be kind enough to bring my certificate and my location of my star, I will put it on my cam, on my studio cam so you can see it.
		It is pretty cool.
		Then one more thing, particularly if our months are limited, I suspect that if you arrive at the pearlies, if you get that far, in all likelihood, the good things that you have done in your life are going to be in the credit column.
		I mean, you know how that works.
		And I consider one of the good things to do in life to be sending flowers to somebody.
		Absolutely fresh flowers is the best deal in flowers in the whole world.
		They sell flowers wholesale to the American public directly from a flower farm.
		The price is $42.95.
		The delivery is magungus in this great big triangular box with more flowers than you can imagine.
		And inside there, there's a card from you with a handwritten message.
		I said handwritten.
		Who does that kind of work anymore?
		With your message and your name, all inside, and then delivery, and that's all part of the price.
		Call them.
		It's a good thing to do.
		The number is 1-800-562-6438.
		I try to do it Slowly, so you can write it.
		1-800-562-6438.
		Absolutely fresh flowers.
		All right.
		Actually, I'm going to hold up my International Star Registry frame.
		It comes in, it's really beautiful.
		It comes in a frame, and I guess I'm going to try to get a picture of it here shortly.
		It's a beautiful frame, and I'm going to hold that up and try to get a good photograph of it.
		It's all signed and sealed and all that.
		And then I will hold up the location where my actual star is.
		So I'll try and do both.
		Here is once again, Major Ed Dames.
		Well, Ed, you've really outdone yourself this time.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've gone way out of the limb.
		I'm going to solve the limb off in a moment.
		But before I do, some technical things.
		These locations that are, one thing we do know about the locations where survivors are, they need to be near sea level because of oxygen requirements.
		A lot of this going, even during the first shot, there's a possibility that there'll be a little bit less oxygen for a while than what we normally used to.
		And those effects will be exacerbated at higher altitudes.
		So being close to sea level will help out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you wouldn't be moving to Denver?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't be moving to Denver, or if you were somewhere where there were caves, the caves should not be at high altitudes to protect you from, let's say, gamma.
		Let's hypothetically say gamma, well, not hypothetically, probably gamma rays and X-rays.
		If you're in a cave, a granite cave, that's fine unless you're at 10,000 feet.
		Then there may not be a lot of oxygen for other reasons that we don't quite understand right now.
		It could be because there's nothing to produce oxygen after this hits, the big one hits, and you're going to need to be down low to the ground, so to speak, just like you would in a fire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So out here where I am in the middle of the desert, the high desert, where we have a lot of sun, where it gets very hot, where we have a lot of sun exposure, not your prime area to move to?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what kind of caves you have there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		far away or Carlsberg Caverns or Yucca Flats go down in there with the I mean, climbing down into the caves in Yucca Flats would be probably just as bad as staying above ground.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, in fact, it's one of the things that we're concerned about in-house.
		We think we know how the problem is solved, but there's going to be a lot of...
		There's a lot of damaging radiation out there.
		However, there's something else that we see out on the horizon that may ameliorate those conditions in terms of other technologies that don't necessarily belong to us right now at this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this where you're going to saw off the limb?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Sort of.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm sawing off the limb because I'm saying that, as you know, this plant pathogen, we're predicting actually impacts in Africa sometime between December and February.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Now, we've already stated that this is an intelligent agency that is delivering this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I recall, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm also stating that it appears that this so-called cycle that the sun, this very immense flare, appears to also be in some way engineered.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That it is indeed a cycle, but it's an engineered cycle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Intelligence is behind it somewhere.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know a funny thing, Ed?
		I didn't think, you know, we've all heard stories of weather control, that the weather could be controlled, and people have always poo-pooed it until along comes this Reuters article the other day indicating that Russia has made an offer to Malaysia to create a cyclone.
		I said, create a cyclone from a satellite that they now have in space.
		They've offered to do this, at least create the first one for free.
		Now, a cyclone is just another way of saying a hurricane.
		You know, over on that side, it's called a cyclone or typhoon.
		And the Russians are making an absolute claim that they will do this for Malaysia.
		Malaysia has graciously accepted their offer to clear away some of the incredible smoke that's been hanging over that part of Asia, choking people.
		And, you know, I am, I guess, not surprised that the Russians are saying they have this.
		If they have it, Ed, we've got it.
		And now I realize you're suggesting the intelligence you're talking about is not ours.
		But if we can do that, who knows what we can do?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Back to survival things again.
		We're talking possibly existing fallout shelters, although we'll have to dust them off.
		Transportation tunnels and mines, caves, caverns.
		And we don't know how long we have to be in those and what we face when we come back up.
		But one thing is certain.
		If you do survive whatever hits, you're going to have to come back up with seed stocks.
		And I don't know how long it will be before we can replant.
		So that means we have to have food and water in those shelters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of this is consistent with what you've said before.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I've said before was predicated upon the weather pattern, the immense, and they're going to get bigger.
		The cyclones are going to get bigger.
		We remote view one in the Midwest that's coming that is so big, it scared the bejesus out of you.
		It has so much force that when it hits a human being, it rips the human being apart because the differential in pressures from the head to the toe are so great, it literally rips the human apart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean cyclone or do you mean tornado?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I mean tornado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tornado.
		Yes.
		Okay, Great.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So, but that is why we talked about having shelters that were deep.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And this puts a whole new spin, this discontinuity puts a whole new spin on things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's one thing I think we should really cover.
		Again, Father Malachi Martin, Three Days of Darkness.
		The discontinuity.
		When you did not know what it was, Major, you said it might be a spiritual or religious event.
		You sort of nailed down for us tonight what the actual physical event or geophysical event is going to be.
		But you know what?
		That still doesn't really rule out the possibility of it also being at the same time a spiritual event or orchestrated by what we regard as God.
		And again, referring to this fact sent to me by the father of the 11-year-old who said, the Almighty will simply arrange clouds in the sky to read game over, the view of one who plays a lot of Nintendo.
		But that says it pretty clearly.
		And so you cannot rule out, can you, the possibility that this is, that you've nailed down with remote viewing the geophysical event, but you can't rule out the fact that it's connected to what Father Malachi Martin speaks of?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Probably whoever planted us here in the first place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, many will read that as extraterrestrial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which it could be, I guess.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It could very well be.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's certainly terrestrial as well as extraterrestrial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Others may read it as God.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		Whatever it is, for us puny humans, those are the effects down here where the rubber meets the road.
		And I am a spiritual man.
		I think that in technical remote viewing, when we have these controlled revelations that we have, I think that we're dipping into a unitary mind, that mind is unitary throughout the universe.
		And spirits in there too.
		So it's a way of kind of an indirect pathway back to spirituality, at least via mind.
		At any rate, having said all that, is this a natural cycle that humans are construing as something connected with their God, something spiritual?
		Or is it, in fact, something spiritual that manifests itself as these cataclysms?
		Or is it both?
		Where are we in the grand scheme of things?
		Whatever the case may be, the gardener is coming back to till the soil, and this planet is going to go fallow for a while, and then it's going to be replanted, and I guess we'll start all over again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The proverbial reset button.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The defrag and reboot.
		And there'll be a few people left, though, to start this process rolling again.
		I think that's why there's a lot of ambiguity and confusion in the records.
		Our records stretch back to maybe 9,000 years ago, but that we're saying this event may be 10,000 to 12,000 years in its cycle, in its periodicity.
		And our records just don't go quite back that far, and so a lot of information is lost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Except geologically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Some phone calls.
		We must.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Major.
		Hi, Art.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I mean, you're listening.
		Where are you?
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		I am in Iowa.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		My name is Dan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Dan.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		And I design and build earth sheltered homes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Opportunistic call, huh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, sir.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Not at all.
		I'm looking at building one for myself here.
		What we're looking at, or what I've I was on a decontamination team in the Air Force for decon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		And I've gone through some pretty extensive training with radiation and EMF faults and things like this.
unidentified		Right.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		And with what the major is talking about here, a standard shelter that we're looking at at 25 or 30 feet below the surface, I don't think will hold up to the Rankins.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
		We're looking at survivors, at least through time, and the techniques that we use, which are accurate, that are pretty deep.
		That are pretty deep indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, something I've got to ask both of you right now.
		If this is really going to happen, and I don't mean to be flippant, but I might be one of the ones who will just go outside and say, take me.
		Yeah, something like that.
		In other words, if we're left with a world where people have to be 100 damn feet underground to live and generally won't be able to come up for some period of time, what kind of world is that?
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Well, Art, the biblical sense in Revelations, the first couple of chapters state basically, or at least my interpretation of them, indicates is that the Bible is telling us that we should protect ourselves.
		We should.
		He's warning us.
		He's actually saying, protect yourselves and you're going to suffer for a while.
		And when you come back up from whatever it is, if you make your way through it, things will be better.
		But he's actually saying, do something about it.
		Protect yourselves, dummy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you surprised at what the major had to say tonight?
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
		And I think he's right on the money, to be honest with you.
		I'm sad that it's going to be so soon because I didn't put things together soon enough for my family and other loved ones.
		But I have the technology to protect myself.
		I mean, it can be done.
		And if people would just work together and come together, a show like yours, Art, is a godsend in itself to where you can at least get people together.
		I've been in contact with Stan quite a bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stan Doo?
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And gone over through quite a few things with him and some of the other group that's there with Noah's Art.
		And the major, I wish you were 24 more months off.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'm not.
		Like I say, we don't know if the 99 event is the precursor or the big one.
		I'm going to plan as if it's the big one in order to protect myself and my family.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Well, I really am thankful that there are people out there that are paying attention.
		And again, I love your show.
		And I hope that somewhere along the line as things come back up, I hope you don't stand outside because we do need a presence, somebody that can ask the questions, do the things, and keep the people together.
		And you're doing a very wonderful job with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I appreciate it.
		Thank you.
		Major, I want to give you an opportunity to...
		I think that's correct.
		Some time ago, not very long ago, I guess when you sort of knew all this was coming, you decided to release to the public the full training course to remote view.
		And I know that module one has got to be in just about everybody's hands.
		For a while, people emailed me and bitched that they weren't getting their modules.
		But I know that you got them out because I'm not getting those bitches anymore.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		6,000 of them, Mark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		6,000, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Module 2 is due to come out when?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The end of the first week in December and shipping the second week in December tape set, and that's about seven hours of instruction for a total of around eight plus hours of instruction.
		That's going to take you about four months to master.
		And what I want people to do with that when they get those techniques down, I would like them to turn their attention to sanctuaries, just sanctuaries, so that they can describe sanctuaries where they can survive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that makes sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If somebody wants to order Module 1 or the upcoming Module 2, how can they do it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They can call our business numbers just like any other business.
		There's 800 numbers.
		Do you want those?
		Yeah, of course.
		For the continental U.S. and Hawaii, it's 1-800-556-0391.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that a 24-hour number?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a 24-hour number.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And the other 24-hour number for Canada and Alaska is 1-888-8780333.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's for Canada and Alaska?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, or they can go to our website or mail us.
		Our website is www.trv-scitech.com.
		Sci-tech is spelled T-S-I-T-E-C-H.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Let me give out those numbers again.
		In the U.S., save Alaska.
		It's 1-800-556-0391.
		Canada and Alaska, 1-888-878-0333.
		And when we come back, we're going to bear in on the lines on the phone calls.
		So stay right where you are.
		I'm Art Bell, and of course, this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You dirty talking, you're my girl.
		Get it on, and I don't think it.
		I hate the world today.
		You're so good to me, I know, but I can't change.
		Tried to tell you, but you look at me like maybe I'm an angel underneath.
		And it's nothing sweet.
		Yesterday I cried, but you've been relieved to be without your side.
		I can understand how you get so confused.
		I don't envy you.
		I'm a little bit of everything.
		All rolling through.
		I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child.
		I'm a mother, I'm a better, I'm a thing.
		I do not feel a change.
		I'm your help.
		I'm your dream.
		I'm nothing in the dream.
		Love you one more day.
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		Now here again, the Azar.
		I'm your house, I'm your dream.
		I'm nothing in the dream.
		Now you wouldn't want it any other way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Guess not.
		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM with Major Ed Dames, Sitex Ed Dames, as a guest, and we are going to pour in on the phones this hour.
		Stores everywhere, indeed.
		All right.
		I have, I've got that photograph on my live studio cam.
		If you go to my website and click on the studio cam, you'll see the star registry frame.
		It's a great big thing.
		I mean, it's probably like 16 by 20 or something.
		Big.
		I've also got in front of me, somebody just refaxed it again from the Washington Post.
		I guess you can check this out if you want at washingtonpost.com.
		Associated Press story with regard to Malaysia Kuala Lumpur.
		Anxious to clear its skies, Malaysia will try Russian technology talented to create cyclones that chase away haze.
		The state, the state-owned Russian company, state-owned, yeah, right, has promised that the first demonstration will be free.
		Malaysia says, quote, since it doesn't cost us anything, there is no harm in allowing them to demonstrate it to us.
		Skies from Thailand to Australia have been clogged with thick haze for four months now, endangering the health of millions.
		The Russians claim they have a satellite that can do this, and they're about to try it.
		And no, it does not come under the treaty that bars weather modification because Malaysia is allowing it.
		With regard to the major's presentation tonight, Daryl in LA says, Art, quick note for what it's worth.
		I'm listening like a hawk for speech patterns and other indicators with respect to Ed Dames.
		This and my gut tells me he is convinced of what he speaks and is demonstrating the attended stress.
		Major Dames, how much chance is there that you could be wrong?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		As far as I'm concerned, and it zip, zero.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nothing's going to get in the way.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		It will happen as much as the ozone layer will dissipate and we'll be overcome by diseases because we can't get our act together.
		It's almost like it's a destiny art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody, my age, 52, John, is asking, do you think the submarine service might take me back sea level?
		How about below it?
		Ask Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm going below it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, in other words, he's got the right idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you could be way below sea level, even in some sort of submerged vehicle like a submarine, you would be in a good place?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I plan upon going below it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		One last.
		And this is kind of an interesting question to ask.
		Ah, please ask, Ed, would the Great Pyramid be a good place to be to ride this out?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Inside?
unidentified		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That would appear to me to be thick enough.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'd say yes.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time call our line.
		You are on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you?
unidentified		Oh, I'm from the great city of Las Vegas, Nevada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Over the hill.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I have a question.
		It was kind of like with the submarine thing.
		I'm going to go into the Navy soon.
		And I decided to join for all the benefits.
		But anyway, I've had some dreams, though, that have told me that it's great waves and great blizzards that are bound to come through my dreams.
		And I was wondering what Ed had to say about how close should you be to the sea or how far away should he be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he said sea level, and then we said below sea level, and he said even better.
		So I guess that's your answer to that.
		With respect to dreams, Ed, when would you suspect that people will begin to have these mass dreams of this event?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Now?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Mark in San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mark.
unidentified		Truly fascinating, as always, with Ed Dames.
unidentified		My girlfriend just woke up and asked me if we should be in the horizontal or vertical position during this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that's a pretty good question.
		I would think that your exposure, I mean, if I'm just, would be considerably less if you'd be in the vertical position.
		It's kind of like if somebody's shooting at you, do you want to present your full body to them, or do you want to present a profile?
		The answer is obviously a profile.
		They've got less of a target.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If it's in the discontinuity itself, I think it's a moot point.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But in the so-called warning shot, let's call it that, the precursor event, then it may make a difference, but I don't know how much or.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		West of the east of the Rockies, you're on the air with SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I am in West Virginia.
		Okay.
		First of all, I am a first-time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I've been listening for about a month.
unidentified		All right, your shirt's really, really good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is different, isn't it?
unidentified		That's what is majorly interesting to me.
		I like all the different things that you go through.
		Ed, the questions I have for you is, since I am in West Virginia, this is coal mine country, obviously.
		Would coal mines be an adequate place to be during this situation?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We think yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		Actually, I have another question for you, too.
		This is along the lines of the viewing that you were talking about.
		Are you familiar with a gentleman by the name of Courtney Brown?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		He was one of my students that I disowned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I know I've heard that name somewhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Courtney Brown, Courtney.
unidentified		Okay, what it is, is I have his book in front of me, Cosmic Voyage.
		And in the book, he discusses, through his viewing, he talks about alien civilizations and Martians that are going to be visiting the Earth and whatnot.
		Is that possibly part of the reason why you have disowned him?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's not the reason, no.
		Not merely because he talks about him.
		Because he has no control on his remote viewing.
		He removed the controls that I taught him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For your information, caller, I also disowned him.
unidentified		Okay, well, I was just wondering about that, you know, as whether, you know, through reading the book, if I can take away that it is worthwhile information or if it's just kind of just for fun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's inaccurate information according to Ed Dames, right, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There are parts of it that are accurate, but he's spliced in his own belief system into the raw data.
		And so you can't pull apart the WEF from the wharf anymore.
		It's just all enmeshed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's out of my will.
		All right.
		West of the Rockies, you're on The air with Major Ed Dames in California.
		Hello, where are you?
unidentified		Yeah, this is Scott in Phoenix, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Scott.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, Major Ed Dames.
		I was wondering if you'd done any remote viewing on the Clinton scandals, and if you have, do you think he'll go down?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean prior to or after the discontinuity?
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Prior, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It isn't anything.
		We would not engage in anything that trivial, except as a demonstration.
		And that would be all.
		Just for a demo to show people how to properly set up a remote viewing queue, a search term.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, there have been a number of remote viewing projects that you have undertaken precisely for that reason, to demonstrate to the public that the procedure works, that SciTech works.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But also the pitfalls involved in, we want our students, those who are really interested in learning the techniques, we want to make sure they understand that when they engineer a search term, when they're searching the collective unconscious, something like the next terrorist attack would not work because it's a meaningless, worthless cue.
		One man's terrorist, this is another man's freedom fighter.
		What's an attack?
		All those things have to be qualified rigidly.
		So that's the kind of thing that we teach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, please?
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, hi, this is Dave, and I'm in Gary, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dave.
unidentified		Hi.
		One of your faxers stole my thunder with the pyramids, and that was kind of a two-part question.
		I was kind of curious.
		The dating of the pyramids and so forth has been dated as possibly being much older.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Could they have been built for this reason?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that is such a good question.
		Ed, there are many people who believe, and of course we know that these cycles have occurred before, and there are many people who believe that a previous civilization constructed the pyramids as, or specifically, to protect against something like this or to affect something like this.
		Anything on that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We haven't remote viewed the purpose of the construction.
		The only thing that we've done on behalf of a commercial trainee was to look at the concatenation of construction, which edifice was under construction first, what came next, those kinds of things.
		So we never addressed the purpose, which would be a different search term.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that would be a good one, though.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of good ones, aren't there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I know, an infinite number of good ones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know so many questions.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the reasons why getting the tools in the hands of people that you can address your own search terms.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I implore people, trainees, to do that until they put it to the test on verifiable things as well as things of personal interest, and then turn your attention pretty fast to ideas of sanctuary from this cataclysm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Understood.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		This is Tim over in Orlando.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tim.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
unidentified		Under the circumstances?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fine under the circumstances.
unidentified		I sent you a fact some time back about how I'd gone to Sunspot National Solar Observatory last summer and how those people over there were getting a little bit on edge about the way the Earth or the sun has been acting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		So it kind of blends into what Major Dames is saying here.
		But also what I was going to say, too, was that there's a couple of Marian prophecies coming out of Bosnia that say, number one, that there would be an event which allows everyone to see each other or see ourselves as God sees us, so to speak.
		We would be able to see ourselves truly as we are.
		And that was kind of like a precursor to when Our Lady describes it as being fire falling from the sky afterwards.
		So there's a kind of synchronicity to these prophecies and what Major James is saying here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		James.
unidentified		James is what I'm saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Yes, okay, thank you.
		I mean, he's really saying exactly what I said a little while ago.
		You don't rule out the concurrence of a religious event.
		In other words, I always thought, I mean, there are great arguments that go on about whether we were created or whether we are here through a process of evolution that began with lightning striking some sort of soup.
		The two could easily go together, that that lightning bolt hit the soup the way it did because a creator had it do that.
		And so an event of the kind you are describing cannot be ruled out as a religious event, can it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I agree.
		I agree 100% with you, Arn.
		You're preaching to the choir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Use to the Rockies.
		You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Where are you, please?
unidentified		I'm in Tennessee.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell and Mr. Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hi.
unidentified		I'm McCaffer.
unidentified		And you was talking about the quality of oxygen at sea level.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And was that the enrichment of oxygen, like the quality of it, or just the pollutants in the air?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, it was the existence of it because it appears to burn off at higher levels in this second event.
unidentified		Okay, and what I'd like to say is that with caves, excuse me, I'm a little bit nervous on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		But in caves, everybody knows that caves have an occurrence of forcing air in and out.
unidentified		Would that be any benefit, an enrichment of oxygen, since it would have that forcing action to it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		As a ski lunker, you should also know that there are areas that if you do not have a second hole in the cave, you don't have that chimney effect.
		So there is no flow of air.
		It just becomes stagnant and stale.
		My point is simply that the air at higher altitudes, a lot of the oxygen will be burned up somehow.
		I use burned up loosely.
		All we know is that the caves at the lower levels near sea level, especially for the long term, are where the survivors are.
		They're not surviving in caves that are higher.
		And they're not surviving because the oxygen isn't there.
		And we think that even in the precursor event, there'll be a little bit of, for reasons we don't understand, maybe for other physiological reasons, there'll be some deaths.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And can you comment at all on the quality or apparent quality of life of the survivors?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty grim for a while.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A while may be up to two years before something very special happens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, Steve, that goes back to my comment about whether there would...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, I guess you want to be a survivor, but you wouldn't want to be around under such a condition.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I haven't really decided whether I'd want to be one of those or which I'd be.
		I'd probably hit for a cave.
		I mean, am I kidding?
		I probably would.
		I don't know that for sure.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I mean, the will of survivors is pretty high.
		I think if it were not for Project Starman, I would probably just live this last year.
		If our data is correct in terms of temporally term, I'd party down for this last year and run the old credit cards right up to the limit.
		Something like that.
		You know, say, you know, be close to my family and those kinds of things for a while and then check out with everybody else.
		But because of Project Starman, I feel that it's another career and a responsibility.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And after the top of the hour, and we will describe Project Starman.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		A couple of faxed questions that I think are pretty interesting.
		From somebody named Cubed, there's a name for you.
		A question, is it possible that the solar event that missed the Earth a few months ago could have been the precursor Ed was talking about?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I had considered that, Art, and I think that it's possible.
		I think that the precursor event, I'm not positive about this.
		I've given it a lot of thought, but we're more concerned with the kill shot that we think is in 99.
		Right, it could have been, I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but the timing of that is referenced against the warning shot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		We think we're pretty sure that December is a ballpark figure for a precursor.
		We've got indicators that December is as early as December, next month.
		Actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to be flying to your new location, Ed?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing's for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to be at 40 or 50,000 feet, even during the precursor, in my way of thinking.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it's a light event, the pilots might be blinded, and that would be a bad thing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If it's a radiation event, Jake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dear Art, just a thought.
		You know, God promised Noah that he would never again cleanse the earth with water.
		Next time, it'll be by fire.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From Pekin, Illinois, so I guess he's agreeing with you.
		Ed, what about the animals?
		Is there anything we can do to save them from Huntington Beach, California comes a question?
		Is it possible, does he see any future at all for the animals which will be above ground?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Too much to worry about.
		It's our own hides when it comes down to this kind of thing.
		And possibilities extend to what I'm doing tonight and taking care of my own family.
		And I guess, you know, I'm looking at my cat right now.
		And I hope I can save him.
		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You once told us all that you viewed Christ, once went back and viewed the event of Christ on earth, and that that was a common target for remote viewers, and that indeed Christ had been on earth.
		Sherwood, Oregon, John asks, I think you better ask Ed if he's viewed Christ's second coming.
		If not, then I sure hope he does soon.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, we have not.
		And that doesn't give you a person.
		It gives you ideas, abstract ideas associated with that target in Q. The target that, the correct target in Q is Jesus of Nazareth.
		That gives you the man who is real.
		And we have not looked at an idea nor explored the idea of a second coming.
unidentified		All right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm a very spiritual man, and Christ is a very powerful figure in my mind, but I have never, as a remote viewer, explored the idea of the second coming.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, my name is Michelle.
unidentified		I'm calling from Portland, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Michelle.
unidentified		Hi.
		Basically, I just wanted to thank you for disseminating on the news that doesn't make the news.
		We listen to you all over here in Portland.
		I tell all my friends, and even my mom listens to you religiously.
		It's great.
		I have a question for Ed.
		I was wondering if he could elaborate on the beginning of technical remote viewing, how it started, and what was the process for screening students, and how young were they, and what happened to some of those students if they were in submission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll talk about the beginnings of it in the military, of course.
		Do you want to elaborate on that?
		And the interesting question there for me was the students that didn't work out.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It began as a discovery by Ingo Swan, one of the West's greatest natural psychics.
		And that breakthrough discovery was the coordinate remote viewing, CRV structure in 1983, 82, 83.
		It took him many years to develop it, but that was the breakthrough.
		In fact, I took that from him, took it into the deep dark world of intelligence, began to work out the bug so it could be militarily useful.
		In 1989, two years prior to retirement, I founded SciTech and began to develop the techniques, civilianize the techniques, and improve them until now they can be taught on videotape.
		Very powerful techniques, and they're self-correcting.
		But there have been individuals that could not be trained.
		There were two of the females that went into the CIA's Stargate program.
		They failed my remote viewing course in the military.
		And we have had two commercial students out of a 10-day commercial course that we just finished teaching fail.
		One because he was mentally imbalanced, and the other because she refused to stop smoking marijuana, and she couldn't focus.
		She would go into a stream of consciousness type of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very interesting.
		All right.
		Wildcard line, you're on here with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, good morning.
		This is Dan in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I have about three points I'd like to hit on real fast.
		Ed, usually things happen in threes.
		You've mentioned, too, like, you know, the solar flare, the plant pathogen, and heavy buttons.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We haven't picked up anything like that, although.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Although, I'm not writing off the possibility of something of asteroid or larger size being directed at the sun in order to cause the event that I'm describing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not throw in an asteroid?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Anyway, we've got everything else happening.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you've got to direct that event somehow.
		And it is just the grand mind in the universe, the mind of God, if you will, saying, do this now.
		That's one thing.
		But if it has to be a mechanical, physical event, then you're going to have to do something to induce that kind of a flare and induce it correctly.
		So my postulate would be throwing a big rock at a certain spot and causing a splash that goes in a certain direction towards us.
unidentified		All right.
		The next point I wanted to ask you about, or there's actually two, they're interrelated, the crop circles.
		Maybe tied in the crop circles with any of the remote viewing, a remote viewed the crop circles to give sort of some backup with that.
		And then, of course, I assume in your remote viewing experience that you've made some contact with the ETs and that's why you're starting Project Stargate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All fair questions.
		Crop Circles?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The company did actually a commercial contract for what was called the North American Center for Crop Circle Studies about 1992 or three, 1992.
		And that's available on the internet somewhere.
		And I'm not sure what the website address is, but that study is up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you basically conclude?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That the circles themselves are time markers, local time markers.
		They're made by intelligent, either machines and or manned vehicles that are moving in and out of time.
		When they need to know where they are locally in time, they put a specific crop circle, a specific one that's registered in a central registry that's placed purposely in perishable media, grain or something like that, that lasts only that particular day, is fresh only on that one day.
		And that is how these vehicles and others who are moving in time know where they are in time locally.
		In other words, if you move to the past and you come back, yeah, go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we've got somebody here on the East of the Rockies line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you?
unidentified		San Antonio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		San Antonio, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Charlotte, I really appreciate your intelligence.
unidentified		Fantastic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that in military intelligence?
unidentified		Mine like a steel trap.
unidentified		I want to ask Ed, would a lead-lined closet protect your food and water, or would a lead-lined room protect me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good question.
		Actually, good question.
		Lead lining, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Probably so.
		I don't know how thick, though.
		I think it's got to be pretty thick.
		And also, we need to know what type of radiation we're dealing with, and we don't yet.
		But lead is a pretty good way to go.
		I've considered lead in the last couple of days myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you've been thinking about that yourself?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've actually been doing some research, and lead lining is, of course, used in research, in actual research, researchers with radioactivity.
		But, again, we don't know whether we're dealing with fast protons or gamma or X-rays and how much lead we need.
		So I don't have all the...
		I'd rather just look at what the survivors are doing through time and do that.
		So that's a sure thing, and I'm not a gambler.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Ed, Major.
		This is The Rock Man.
		I don't know if you remember me, Art.
		I'm calling from Denver, Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're going to cook.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't live here.
		I live in Green Bay, but I'm taking a little Christmas feed to Southern California.
		Ho, ho, ho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What can we do for you, sir?
unidentified		The reason I call is I had a vision, I should say actually yesterday night.
		And I've had visions like these before and a premonition, if you will, about an event that I believe to occur within the next eight days.
		I'm just taking a guess at it because, like remote viewing, when these visions come to me, they're real ambiguous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, spit it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was your vision?
unidentified		It's not good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, tell us what it was.
unidentified		Well, the vision implies an earth change.
		The reason when I say vision, I read sunsets.
		I don't know, this is not going to make a lot of sense to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, vision, we'll just, instead of explaining it, vision will do it, and you see an event in the next eight days.
		Now, that is the kind of thing you're talking about, Ed, right?
		People beginning to have visions, dreams, senses that something is imminent.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Particularly dreams.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Particularly dreams.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Because that's where unconscious can start rolling accurately.
		Of course, the dream picks up color and trash as it rolls along.
		But they all start the same way with direct knowledge.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extinguisher radio for us.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Sorry about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sound up.
unidentified		Yeah, I have just questions and comments.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, where are you?
unidentified		I'm in San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are your questions?
unidentified		Question is, and also I have a joke for you.
unidentified		My question is, well, actually, seriously, what about underground missile silos?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would work fine.
unidentified		Well, yeah, there aren't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's actually a pretty intelligent comment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can buy underground missile silos.
unidentified		Yeah, there's a guy that bought one.
unidentified		Apparently, he bought the last one in town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Damn.
unidentified		And yeah, he spent a pretty fortune, and I thought, my God, he's got the cream of the creme.
unidentified		He's got the best place to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, isn't it ironic that that which would eliminate all life on earth possibly or from which a missile would have come that would have been part of eliminating all life on earth would be the one thing that might protect you?
unidentified		And there's some of these still available.
		Apparently, they're not selling them.
		They only sold so many of them.
		And it's beautiful looking.
		I mean, he's got this thing.
		I mean, it's an underground complex.
		You wouldn't believe it.
		I couldn't believe it when I saw this thing.
		I said, I'd like to have one.
		Another thing is, ironically, is probably he might survive because of the cement would be prisoners in prisons, ironically.
		But actually, the couple that come, another thing I was wondering about, it seems to be, and I've seen this in a program somewhere, these supposedly, these ETs or whatever, and again, it always seems to be, in this case, New Mexico.
		And I don't know what is in New Mexico.
		And I started thinking, well, what's in New Mexico?
		I have no idea.
		Capes, Carlsville, Camerons?
		I don't know what.
		But it seems like every time I turn around, people are flocking to Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, New Mexico also, by the way, was a thought of location for storage of nuclear materials along with Yucca Flats.
		They are, in fact, going to store some nuclear materials in New Mexico.
		So if you, I suppose, could get into that area where they were going to store these, but had not yet stored them, a very important point, you'd be in a pretty good place, right, Ed?
unidentified		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But don't forget, if you survive the shot, you're going to still have to be tied in with a community in order to survive in the long term.
		Without a community, you're sunk.
		You're just as secure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you're really still talking chlorella as a food supply?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't have to be chlorella.
		Chlorella will be one of the few things living on the planet that people can eat.
		You can take food stocks with you.
		A good thing to take would be stocks of algal stocks in addition to seeds because you'll need to replant as soon as possible and be able to have enough to eat until the food grows again.
		But what I'm saying is community art.
		Unless you're with a community, your odds of survival in the long term are really low.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine the social structure of those who would survive would be very, very different.
		For example, the need to reproduce rapidly would lead to social...
		I wonder if we would be after such an event.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not sure.
		I thought about it.
		I think you may be onto something, but I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would be one of the few reasons I could think of that you might want to survive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, be an interesting time.
unidentified		All right, Ed, hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Majorette Dames is my guest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Arthur Bell.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast, A.M. One more time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Want a copy of this program?
		I bet you do.
		It's 1-800-917-4278.
		One more time.
		That's 1-800-917-4278.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
		This is CBC.
		CBC.
		From the Kingdom of Nigh, you're listening to the best of Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bells.
		When you hear phone numbers, please do not call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, here's a Christmas gift that you.
		Well, everybody knows somebody who's got everything, but one thing they probably don't have is a star.
		Now, Nicole Kidman has a star.
		Brooke Shields has a star.
		Alex Baldwin.
		Madonna has a star, as well as her new baby.
		I have a star.
		My wife has a star.
		And you can have a star too.
		Actually, actually have a star.
		As a matter of fact, last night I put up the framed star, a certificate which is absolutely beautiful.
		It's gigantic.
		It's like, I don't know, 16 by 20 or something.
		And they give you a star map as well to show you where your star is.
		It's $45.
		And you really are getting a star.
		I mean, you call the International Star Registry, and I'll give you their number.
		They send a beautiful full-color parchment certificate of record, sky charts, and a very interesting book on astronomy.
		Now, so you know, your star, the one name for you, and remember, a star is a sun, right?
		Your star is entered in the registry's book and recorded with the U.S. Copyright Office, so it will be your star forever.
		I mean, imagine the fame, the possibilities.
		What if your star went supernova?
		Your name would be everywhere.
		But even if it doesn't, you've got a star, right?
		An entire star.
		So, there you are.
		Call the International Star Registry at 1-800-282-3333.
		Not a real hard number.
		That's 1-800-282-3333.
		And for $45, you can give a star for Christmas on the NASA homepage.
		Coronal mass ejections.
		Sometimes energetic particles and magnetic storms are observed at Earth without any exceptional flare activity preceding them.
		But they may be associated with a different solar phenomenon observed in 1973 by telescopes aboard the U.S. Space Lab, Space Station Skylab.
		These are, quote, coronal mass ejections, end quote, CMEs, huge bubble-shaped disturbances rising above active sunspot regions, expanding as they rise.
		By the time the spacecraft had already found the cause of the flare-associated magnetic storms at Earth, it was the arrival of interplanetary shock fronts, making the front edge of expanding plasma clouds, which it was then believed arose in flares.
		Once CMEs were discovered, it seemed obvious that here were probably similar clouds at the start of their journey outwards from the sun.
		Some CMEs, get this now, come with flares, some don't.
		And many scientists nowadays feel that CMEs are more frequently associated than flares with the rapid release of magnetic energy on the Sun.
		The real mystery, of course, is the release process itself.
		Now, quoting again from NASA, CMEs heading straight for the Earth are not easy to observe because they are seen against the background of the bright sun.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nevertheless, instruments aboard the Solar Observatory, SOL, launched in 1996, are able to do so and have been used since early 1997 in space weather prediction.
		Very, very interesting.
		In other words, you don't see the one that's going to get you Ed, except that we put a satellite up there specifically to look for them.
		Now, do you, this brings on an obvious question.
		Do you think that they, the ever-present they, government, whoever, know that something may be up and specifically put a satellite up there for that reason?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that that 80% of that satellite's mission, and I'll link your listeners who are interested into the space weather site in the next 24 hours.
		I think that 80% of that mission is just for scientific studies.
		Maybe 15 or 20% is funded by DOD so that they can protect, or we can protect our offensive and defensive systems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, back to the lines.
		First time, caller line.
		You're on there with Ed Dames.
		Good morning.
unidentified		How are you doing there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you?
unidentified		I'm in West Virginia.
unidentified		It's Casper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, I got one question for Major Ed Dames.
		According to one of your targetings, there was an extraterrestrial race on Mars that was supposed to be kind of a helpful group that you did like in 96 when you were on Arpelle.
		You remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was work that was done, early work in conjunction with the one who's been disowned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct, but to a certain extent, we did talk about a race on Mars, yes, in the past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Would there be, could there be any intervention in this event?
		Or again, I guess you've answered it.
		You said no.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The event is not being used.
		There's not an intervention.
		In the post-cataclysmic stages, there will be an infiltration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, great.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It is great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get them while they're down, kind of deal.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a plan out there.
		Alien Nation.
		I mean, there's only so many of them.
		Let's hypothetically speak for a moment.
		Suppose there were just so many of them.
unidentified		Go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		I didn't mean to interrupt you.
		No, go ahead.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have to be careful here.
		Actually, Sitech is a junior partner on the Starman project.
		And it's a very important project because it deals with new life as well as new life forms.
		And I don't want to place any of those in danger.
		So I will be pretty ambiguous about this art.
		It does deal with other technologies, perhaps tachyon teleportation and things that are far above anything that we've ever seen in this last 12,000 years.
		And it does deal with the infiltration of another race that needs this might be our last show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it possible we will squeeze one more in, or is it possible that from your new location, you've got to remember I'm as international as you can get, I can interview you from the other side of the world, no problem, that we might get a show in from your new location.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Our vice president, Joni Duriff, who is in the chat room now with about a zillion other people, has asked me to do that, has said, will you do one more show from the new site?
unidentified		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I'll announce where I'm at if I do that show.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If we make it, I'll do that at that juncture.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that would be something.
		Wildcard Line, you're on here with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Morning, guys.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in San Diego on my way to Temecula.
		Okay.
		I'm losing my cell site.
		Real quickly, Major, whatever happened with the Phillip Teller-Kramer case, and have you ever remote viewed Bigfoot?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Philip Teller.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, never remote viewed Bigfoot.
		The Kramer case, because of a family consideration, we left it alone.
		There were certain circumstances attendant with that disappearance and murder underway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, enough said.
		I mean, you know, I understand the family.
		Okay, Easton the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hello, Major Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in Worcester, Massachusetts.
		Okay.
		I was listening to your show the other night when you had Dr. Kaku on, and you spoke a little bit about the Class 1 and Class 2 and Class 3 type civilizations.
		Right.
		We're just getting on the doorstep.
		When you're really not even on the doorstep now, but say, for instance, you couldn't get a lead-lined room or a bunch of car batteries or some blankets from X-ray labs at a hospital or something.
		I'm thinking, maybe I don't have any business asking this question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a reasonable question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, when you go to the dentist, we all know they protect your private parts and put this big lead-lined thing over you.
unidentified		Well, I'm trying to protect a little bit more than on a bigger scale.
		You know the harp thing they have up in Alaska?
		And you were talking about the weather mixes that they're...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see where you're going, sir.
unidentified		Can we...
		You know how they can black out some kind of noise with another kind of noise?
		Okay, can...
		Exactly.
		Well, can we sort of use that technology to beam some stuff up into HARP?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's an interesting question.
		And nobody really knows for certain what they're doing with HARP.
		We know what their stated goals are, but we don't really know what they're doing with HARP.
		And one might imagine they feel they can excite the ionosphere and actually cause a tremendous effect from a relatively small signal.
		It's billion watts.
		It's actually very big, but compared to the world, it's small.
		Compared to the ionosphere, it's small.
		And they could actually start a vibratory effect that would affect all of the ionosphere.
		And you've got to wonder if they're not looking towards some sort of event or protecting from or.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think an event like a missile launch on the part of another superpower that reached a certain height and got EMP'd, got its communications and guidance system electronics knocked out.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		How about something like that?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or I wonder if they actually might be able to in some way modify that which protects us from the sun's radiation.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not what the Department of Defense is tasked with doing.
unidentified		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not with U.S. tax dollars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Eric.
		Good morning, Ed.
		This is John up in Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Ed, a couple questions before I'd get right to it.
		First of all, I'd just like to say that I hope all people who are listening to this take you very seriously because a lot of times when people put out this kind of stuff, people don't take them seriously.
		And that's a sad thing because when this does happen, no one will be ready for it.
		But anyway, I'd like to talk a little bit about the specifics, about the timing of the second event, the big one.
		And you say that's around 1999, correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, he's much more specific than that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We're thinking around April of 99.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's our best shot so far.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah, the reason I was saying, because I put this same event that you have at 2002, and I was just kind of wondering, you know, how you came up with 99, you know, I mean, you know, quickly overview, how you came up with that, and if maybe you could be a little early by a year or two on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's actually a really good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, how do you date these events, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We could be early.
		I'm just saying that the center of mass for all of our temporal hits is April 99.
		We date it by using, we have to, time is an abstract thing, so it doesn't work really well in remote viewing.
		Mind is outside of time.
		Loosely speaking, we use what we call an orrery.
		An orre is physically is about a four-century-old device that depicts the relative positions of the heavenly bodies, vis-a-vis the earth, any given time of the day.
		It's a clockwork.
		We have a little symbolic sketch that we do after we have very good sight contact.
		After about 45 minutes of work, where the remote viewer is bilocating, half of their conscious awareness is in the room, and the other half is on the target.
		It's called bilocation.
		We sketch a little diagram.
		We take up a position about one astronomical unit above the north pole of the sun, and looking down, we sketch the position of the Earth in its orbit, present time, and then the Earth and its orbit during the time of the event, the time where the target is picked up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would seem a very specific way of dating.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty good.
		It gives us a good mean, a good average, that kind of a thing.
		And by doing that, April 99, around 99-ish, is one of the better figures that we've got.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, people are always bugging us for timelines, so this one's awfully specific.
		All right.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Good morning.
		Where are you?
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Yes, this is David from Sacramento.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I have some information on a chemical that would protect people from radiation poisoning that I'd like to share.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Are you familiar with dimethyl sulfoxide, commonly known as DMSO?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've heard of DMSO.
unidentified		Okay, what most people don't know about it is it has radioprotective properties.
		And say, for example, if there was a nuclear blast if you're at the epicenter, you're toast.
		But if you're in the fallout area, you could take a tablespoon of this stuff a day and protect all your cells from radiation pollution.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that really, really is a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, in fact, now that I recall, back to the days of nuclear war when we thought it was possible, not that it isn't now, there were things that you could take ahead of exposure to radiation that would help a great deal.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Our all placebos are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's baloney, then.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Soviets thought they had something, and it was, you know, and DMSO was a part of it.
		But generally speaking, I won't say it's baloney, and I won't say it's completely a placebo.
		There may be some biochemistry behind it that connects it with protection, but working side by side with the best DOD biochemists in the business, they said no. 100 feet of ground above you is better.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Arden.
unidentified		Ed.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		This is Frank in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to bring to your attention that you had a guest on a while ago by the name of Carl Kagle, Charles Cagel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to bring that to my attention.
unidentified		Right.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		And I just thought I'd mention about, you know, he had said similar things to what Ed was saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		And I thought I would, you know, bring that out.
jim dilettoso ▲ ● ▼		But I thought I'd also say, too, that Richard Holdman, I don't think, agrees with this type of assessment as far as what would happen here as far as these sun causing these problems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll have a chance to ask Richard about that.
		But I would think that if what Ed suggests did occur, that the effects could be as suggested.
		Now, of course, Richard will comment on that.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extinguish your radio, please.
unidentified		Okay, hold on, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm holding.
		Now, everybody ought to be ready to do that.
		You have your radio by your phone, so you can turn it off right away.
		You don't want it on while you're on the air, or you'll be all confused and sound weird.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Rapids City, South Dakota, And my name is D. Hi, B. D, D, E, D. Oh, D, D, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like Sandra D. Well, yeah.
unidentified		All right.
		I have a question for Ed Daines.
		I know it wouldn't be safe in California for all this kind of stuff.
		Would a person be safer being in South Dakota?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, wait a minute.
		Now, why?
		Because you were talking, Ed, about sea level.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about South Dakota.
		There's places that are not that high in South Dakota.
		And also, predominantly, when you do have survivors, it's going to be a mad max scenario for the most part.
		And you don't want to be probably, especially in Southern California, throwing that error.
		South Dakota, especially with a community of survivors, you'd be in a whole lot better shape.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I want to give you one more plug here.
		The technical remote viewing videotapes.
		And by the way, I've seen Module 1, and it is a superb production.
		I can tell my audience that much.
		It really is superb.
		And I know Module 2 is about to come out.
		And people who would like to do this and do their own remote viewing and find their own safe places.
		Or just, if you don't believe any of this and you just want to learn how to remote view, these will do it.
		You can get them by calling.
		In the U.S., except for Canada and Alaska, 1-800-556-0391.
		That's 1-800-556-0391.
		Or in Canada and Alaska, 1-888-878-0333.
		That's 1-888-878-0333, correct?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And our website is www.trv-scitech.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anything else in the remaining very short time that we have that you want to tell everybody after this incredible night?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can only say that enjoy the next year and spend time with yourself and your loved ones or find somebody to love and pray for guidance just before you go to sleep.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that should do it for you one way or another.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'll be around on the internet until it goes down, teaching, and that's where I'll be if somebody needs to find me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And one way or the other, here or after you've moved, we'll do one more program at least.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's a deal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, thank you very much.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		That's SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
		Yikes.
		So I hope you observed my earlier warnings.
		Otherwise, if you're the kind of person who's overly concerned about this sort of thing, you're probably pretty much overly concerned right now.
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		Tonight, whatever, on and on.
		And this applies not only to this program, but to any program we do with a guest here on Coast.
		You can get it by calling 1-800-917-4278.
		And that's a number that's good 24 hours a day, including right now.
		Do you have a pencil?
		Do you have a paper?
		You've grabbed for it, I presume.
		Let me give you that number one more time.
		It's 1-800-917-4278 to obtain a copy of this program.
		Well, folks, that's it.
		I guess in more ways than one, huh?
		Keep a smile on that face.
		Tomorrow night, we are going to do kind of an update with Joyce Riley with regard to the Gulf War Syndrome, particularly important in view of the fact that I think in the next seven to ten days, we're going to be mixing it up again from the high desert.
		Yeah, the high desert.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Good night.

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