David Icke and Art Bell dissect reverse speech, claiming unconscious backward messages reveal hidden truths in forward audio. They analyze clips from Mike Tyson, Queen Elizabeth II, and Bill Clinton, interpreting metaphors like Tyson's "rubber duck" and the Queen's suggestion that Diana's death served the Crown. The discussion covers legal battles where clients sued Icke over perceived mind programming, which courts dismissed as paranoia. Ultimately, the segment argues these tonal shifts expose suppressed realities, suggesting that listening backwards unlocks a deeper, often disturbing layer of human communication beyond conscious intent. [Automatically generated summary]
I've had I've probably had more requests for the Area 51 reversals than I've had ever.
And then the Queen Elizabeth was next down on the list.
And so I've got her.
I've got some great reversals on Mike Tyson when he apologized after biting the man's ear to show where he's really coming from.
And that's very exciting.
I've also got a live test I want to do on the air as well.
We've actually it's a multiple choice question of five or six reversals and one of the criticisms thrown at reverse speech is that we're only hearing these reversals because you are suggesting that we hear them.
So I want to do this test live on the air and give some people three choices and they can write to me or email or phone and let us know what the results are and next time I'm on we'll come back with the results and see what happens.
And also tonight if we can get some audio through is I want to just play some of my reversals slightly differently.
I want to play the reversals and then actually run the whole track backwards which I've never done before on the air and you'll actually hear the reversals embedded amongst the backwards run tapes just to hear how it actually occurs in all right why don't we see if we're in business here why don't we go to a couple of test reversals and see if it's going to work.
All right let me go back to my patch.
Just hang on one second.
All right.
Off the phone and back to the patch and back to a little bit of hum I suspect.
You've got these quite short, sharp, incredible, quite short, sharp phrases in reverse that is embedded amongst the backwards runs tape.
And that's literally how reverse speech works.
Once every 10 or 15 seconds, you get these very clear and precise reversals mixed in amongst the backwards tapes.
That is, my claim is a reflection of what the person is thinking and feeling at the time of speaking.
And let's run just two more on Mike Tyson to see how genuine his apology is.
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To those of you who say I should never fight again, I can only say that I'm 31 years old in the prime of my career and I had made mistakes this far because I had no other way.
And he says in reverse, money, get our funds, I shall be rewarded.
All right, well.
Sorry?
I heard that, but not as clearly.
Right.
He's got a slight list forwards, and you can actually hear this list in reverse.
Let me run the forwards again.
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To those of you who say I should never fight again, I can only say that I'm 31 years old in the prime of my career, and I had made mistakes this far because I had no other way.
The queen has been known to refer to herself in the third person.
Sure.
She needs what is the question, and the next reversal gets a bit closer to that.
In point of fact, the whole trend in the Queen's reversals is that the death of Princess Di has actually been a great service to the Crown.
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This week at Don Laurel, we have all been trying to help William and Harry come to terms with the devastating loss that they and the rest of us have suffered.
A lot of people have suggested to me in emails that there was a murder plot for Princess Di, and I cannot find any evidence of that in reverse.
But the whole feel I get from the Queen's reversals is that this is actually very convenient for the Crown because they can use Dai's death to excel the Crown's popularity.
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I, for one, believe there are lessons to be drawn from her life and from the extraordinary and moving reaction to her death.
David, give everybody a little idea of what reverse speech is, because there are always new listeners, and they're sitting there saying, what?
Reverse?
What?
What's this all about?
Right, I totally understand where they're coming from.
Well, essentially, my theory is that the process of spoken communication is twofold.
As the human brain is constructing the sounds of speech, it's putting those sounds together in such a way that we're delivering two messages at the same time.
One is forwards from the conscious mind and one is in reverse from the unconscious.
I maintain this is a natural function of language.
All of us are receiving the reversals of everyone else every time that we speak.
It's an unconscious form of communication.
Now, the way we study this is by quite literally recording human speech and running that speech backwards.
And once every ten or fifteen seconds, embedded amongst the sounds of the backwards gibberish, you can hear these very clear and precise English phrases that my research shows is what the person is thinking and feeling at the time of speaking.
And this has been a 14-year research project of mine.
It is all I have done for the last 14 years.
And I really only went public with this last year for the first time in a major way.
And I think your program was one of the very first programs I ever went on with this.
And since that time, we've had quite a few adventures.
The most significant of which is our house burning down.
Our home and offices were burnt to the ground six months ago.
I think by someone who was being very threatened by this technology, which literally has the power of accessing the totality of human thought.
Whatever you are thinking and feeling at the time of speaking is embedded backwards into the sounds of your speech.
All right, I have a question.
Yes, sir.
When you meet somebody, and I think almost everybody has experienced this, you meet somebody and you talk to them for a few minutes and you take an immediate dislike to them.
Oh, no, I thought that's what you were setting up to do.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I can set that up.
Let's I he was I had a thing I had a trend I was going to go to here, but no, we can set that one up right now.
And so I will do that while I'm listening.
Let's do that one.
You've got me interested.
You did the whole setup, so I might as well go ahead and hear it.
We will go and do exactly that.
And while I'm setting this up, I mentioned my house fire recently that we had six months ago.
Strange Universe has just finished doing an intensive investigation into the whole house fire, and they will be airing a special on that tomorrow night on Strange Universe.
Oh, no kidding.
Yeah, it's a seven-minute story.
It's one of the longest stories they have ever done.
And they interviewed private and private investigators and fire officials.
So, in other words, we'll get to see the whole story tomorrow night.
You'll get to see the whole story tomorrow night, including footage of the fire and the house after the fire.
It's a very dramatic piece.
So, here's this quora, and I'm going to play the first section forwards.
By investing fully $24 billion, we will be able to provide quality medical care for these children, everything from regular checkups to major surgeries.
All one has to do is go and look at the bill itself to see the fake, to use his own words.
Is your new house fireproof?
Oh, boy, what a question.
We've actually been approached by a couple of builders who are offering to build a fireproof house for us, and I personally think we need to take them up on that, especially once you see the Strange Universe report tomorrow night.
I live in an extremely risky occupation.
You do, it's true, you do.
Yeah, I didn't really take it seriously when I first came out with this.
I kind of thought a lot of it was just conspiratorial or paranoia mentality.
And not only have we had the fire, but my office has been broken into several times, and we're being followed.
And it's just extremely bizarre some of the things that have happened to us since we've gone public with this.
Well, even paranoids occasionally have their homes burned down.
Yeah, that's true.
No, it's risky.
I mean, when you begin to do this to people, to reverse them and expose them, you're not going to be their best friend all the time.
Well, our world lives.
We live in a world of illusions and lies and half-truths and incongruities.
And I personally think reverse speech is probably the first real technology available to us yet that can go straight to the source of truth.
And, you know, I don't want to sound like I've got a blasé attitude about it, but well, I've got about six I want to play on the air.
Quite frankly, he was very difficult to find reversals on.
They were very scattered.
He spoke in a very monotone voice.
Yes, he did.
And you really need a lot of tonal inflections in voices to find the reversals.
But yeah, I've got some pretty reversals on him that will, I think, show at least where he's coming from.
You get more from emotion, don't you?
Oh, most definitely.
Emotion and casual conversation.
And the increase is very, very dramatic.
In emotion, you will get reversals once every two or three seconds.
But when you get the public prepared script, particularly if someone is reading or they're very monotone and left-brained.
Then you don't get so many reversals.
All right, David, hold on.
We're at the top of the answer.
He's all the way up in Alaska now.
I want to go, David.
I'm going to leave it up to you.
I know what the categories are, but oh, I'll tell you what.
I've got a couple of questions.
Then I'll let you go where you want.
Art, would you please ask David?
This is Bob in Norco, California.
If more than one person used the same sentence, word for word, would the reversal be the same?
Generally speaking, no, it would not be the same, especially if they are speaking in different intonations and accents.
Reversals are not caused by the words that we use, but rather by the sounds of speech.
But if you could repeat the same sentence exactly the same way as it was spoken, I mean, if two people speak it in exactly the same context and exactly the same accent, they may get something sounding similar.
But generally, the way we speak in natural conversation is not that way.
Sentences very dramatically.
And so that would generally not be the case.
All right.
So there we go.
Okay.
Well, look, what I'm going to do is I'm going to just I've got I've got our friend Brother Theiron Muhammad Ali queued up, so I'm just going to play three or four reversals on him.
And as you mentioned earlier, reversals can be perceived unconsciously, which is one of the reasons why I think you took an aversion to that Area 51 caller earlier on.
And then you come on not long after this and say this forward.
And I think a lot of it was reacting to the reversals themselves, which were full of hatred and anger and violence.
And this next one, which the last one I want to play on him, pretty well sums up the whole lot along with Denied Faith Deserve to Die.
He's talking about some of the anger the blacks feel in American society and the slavery issues discussed forwards as well.
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Amongst the minds of the people, where they recognize that we will not get anything from being here in America, we are the descendants of slaves brought here on slave ships.
Yeah, so let's just do that one more time for those who missed it.
A little bit of gibberish beforehand.
And there's those reversals slapped right in the center of the backwoods gibberish.
Okay, and there we go.
You must go absolutely nuts trying to find this.
Oh, you have no idea.
It sounds very easy when I play these on the air, but the work that goes into this is intense.
I think I've mentioned before, it probably takes me a good 100 hours of work to prepare for one broadcast.
And it's probably one of the factors that deters students from very serious research into this is that it's such a tremendously time-consuming process.
Sure.
But that's about to change.
I mentioned on the last program we've had some software developed that can actually find the reversals.
It won't actually decipher them yet, but at least we can go straight to it and find them.
Reversals have a very unique tonal signature that the computer is able to locate.
So the computer then just looks for a tonal change?
Correct.
It recognizes the way the program works, it highlights the section with a gray colour.
I mean, I'm not too sure how the software finds it, but you see the waveforms, and then this gray color bar appears scattered throughout the waveforms where the reversals are.
And we haven't really had the chance to use it yet.
It's only just come out.
Are you going to make it available to the public at some point?
Yeah, we are making that and a whole lot of other stuff available.
We're having our first reverse speech annual convention in the first week of December on December 12th, 13th, and 14th.
And actually, if people are interested in that, maybe they could give us a call.
That's at 1-800-669-5789.
1-800-669-89.
5789.
5789.
And our target is to have this software package ready, as well as a software package we're currently working on that will turn the computer itself into a reversing machine.
It will have instant forwards and backwards rather than the highlighting of the sections now we want to reverse, which should take a fair bit of time.
That software package is halfway through, plus we're designing our own machine with our own brand name, and we're hoping to have that out by December as well.
All right, well, it seems to me that the fact that software can be designed to locate the reversals by the tonal change validates the whole concept of reverse speech.
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
In other words, not just what we think we're hearing, but if a machine can be programmed to detect that tonal change, then you have an extra validation here.
Oh, right.
And, you know, you yourself have commented on this unique tonal shift that the reversals have.
I presume from time to time people send you their own.
Oh, yeah, we get quite a few sent to actually.
I get many reversals sent to me.
And we're going to pull up a couple of these kids now.
And you've got to realize while I'm pulling this up that reverse speech as a science is still in its very early stages.
It's like the crystal radio set is the closest comparison I can get to it.
And I'm sure 20 years from now I'm going to look back at what we've done in this current time and laugh at the complexity and the labor that we went through.
And okay, the first kid I'm going to play actually has a very simple metaphor that may introduce you to this whole concept.
And this is a chart I was over the pair.
This is me speaking, and I was over at the parents' house talking, and you can hear the kids singing in the background.
OK, do you hear the baby crying in the background?
Some people just say it's the audio quality of kids, I mean, or a tape recorder in the background with echoes, but I don't buy that.
Oh, I don't either, because you hear the same thing with adults, the same kind of echoey background in many of the forward and then reversals, and you don't get that ethereal quality.
No, you really don't.
My personal theory, and it's a theory only, and it's a little bit bizarre, but this is what I think.
Think that at the base level of consciousness, the consciousness is comprised not just of one ego or one id, but it's comprised of a multitude of different parts that all make up consciousness.
And it's very common in reverse to hear self discussing with self different concepts.
I shall do this, I shan't do this, I will do that, I won't do that.
And sometimes I think all of these different voices speak together in the one voice.
And it almost sounds like many different voices speaking, speaking.
Well, maybe it's a kind of a collective consciousness before the individual emerges.
I think that's a very good explanation for it.
I really do.
Yeah, that is, I, you know, I that's the word I would have used: the collective unconscious or a collective consciousness of different parts.
Well, there's so many things, David, that we don't understand about ourselves.
Yes, there's so many things that I don't understand about myself.
I had a fairly good self-image before I started reverse speech.
I kind of figured I knew how the world worked and how everything went and who I was and why I was here.
And in the first few years, reverse speech just tear away everything I knew about myself and everything I believed.
And it's pretty shocking to look at yourself in the mirror and see what's really there.
When you expose people to their own reversals, and you don't hold back.
Yes.
What reaction do you generally get from people?
Do you find that it changes them?
Does it work on them as a psychiatrist would go to work on them?
Or do they get angry?
It depends on the person.
It depends on how congruent they are with each other, with themselves.
I remember one case at the top of my head where the person got so angry and so vicious, they stormed out of my office halfway through the presentation.
The following comes from Al Collier in Little Rock, Arkansas, who says, Art, regarding Mike Tyson's rubber duck, as a former semi-pro boxer during the 1960s and 70s, the term rubber duck was an insider's term for punch drunk or a fighter who was mentally beat but whose body was still standing, a person who was literally too dazed to fall down.
And, you know, we had another instance to this on your program a couple of times back.
I played a reversal from the Mars conferences that said the alpha searched the hill and shake the loose dirt.
And I had no idea what alpha meant.
And you had a read of facts in to talk about the alpha spectrometer.
That's correct.
And that's something I didn't know either.
And see, it's these type of things that constantly validate reverse speech.
And when you get these validations all the time, I mean, constantly, you've got to ask the questions.
There is so much evidence that comes up to validate this.
How can anyone deny it?
Especially after all the times I've been on your air and all the contextual relationships and all the facts that we uncovered that subsequently turn out to be valid.