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Sept. 18, 1997 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Major Ed Dames - Phoenix Lights - Hale Bopp

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ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And what we were interested in within the first twenty minutes of work is that there was nothing in the air associated with these glowing lights.
		There was no structure whatsoever around them.
		And so there went the delta-wing aircraft and the extraterrestrial aircraft.
		Now we did not rule out the idea that it could have been extraterrestrial in nature, for instance, a rip in space-time and something shining through or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Skies and limit.
		Or something associated with the military at a distance.
		So we had to actually go to the origin, and that's quite easy for us to do in our work, to look at the source and or the origin of those particular glowing spheres.
		And that's when we landed, so to speak, on this fixed structure with these five lasers projecting out over the city from the south to the north.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And this was done as a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you able to determine precise motivation as a prank, as a...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And the motivation appears to be, now, I'm not absolutely sure about this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So I've got to be careful here about naming names.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please don't.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I am not going to.
		But a certain television network just happened to be Johnny on the spot and conveniently in place during that phenomenon to report on it.
		And ratings are a big motivator, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And especially, you know, you've got a novel, exciting thing like a delta-winged UFO that's that big over the city.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I think you get the picture.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying that this may be a conspiracy between, and it's fair to use the word conspiracy, between a broadcast network and a company capable of doing this kind of hoax.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
		And it's not really difficult to do.
		We've put all the, we've wired diagrammed this at work with some really good experts.
		And way less than two watts of power per laser will do it for you, as some of your engineers out there know.
		But it's just not a very functional, useful thing, although it really worked for these guys.
		It snookered a whole lot of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's an additional strange thing about the whole Phoenix Light situation.
		I mean, the basic occurrence on March 13th was reported on but barely.
		Covered but barely.
		Not covered really by the networks to speak of.
		And then two months later, two months later, maybe at an important rating time, I don't know, all of a sudden, everybody covered it.
		I mean, all the networks, CNN, all the biggies jumped on that story like it had happened the night before.
		That was something we couldn't figure out.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, who owned the original film?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I better not go any further on this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, there were several.
		There were several.
		So, as a matter of fact, I think there were four or five separate video tapes, at least, good ones taken by individuals.
		So, anyway, there you are.
		How does anybody proceed to ever prove this now?
		Can they do so?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we could name the company and do some other things, but we're not going to do that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a very real possibility that based upon tonight's broadcast that they may come out and say, that the company may come out and say, this is how we did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then there is another possibility, and that is that an investigative agency of some sort might contact you.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't see why, Art.
		Who cares?
		I mean, what investigative agency?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		That's true.
		Now, the one thing that bothered me and still does, as you know, there was a request, a very specific request for an investigation which got a certain city council member in big trouble.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I caught wind of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm still bothered by the reaction of those who were requested to investigate this.
		And they basically said, no, our city doesn't have an Air Force.
		We can't investigate.
		Air Force said we don't investigate those things anymore.
		And even if this was a complete hoax, Ed, even if it was, it should have been investigated by somebody.
		I mean, Ed, it should be a should have been a matter of national concern at the time and until now.
		Don't you think?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I disagree.
		I disagree.
		If I were to shine a series of searchlights in the sky and you came to the conclusion that they were alien, They were lasers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They were specific lasers designed to create the impression, according to you, of an alien spacecraft.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But since no one in the federal government investigates alien spacecrafts, then there's no charter for anyone to do this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but that would suggest that large craft, real ones, could appear over our cities and nobody would do a thing about it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think that if the Air Force had signatures that NORAD, there was just not enough of a threshold danger or threat or semblance of a threat to do anything about it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Even the FAA wasn't concerned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, we'll see where this goes.
		We've got it out on the table now.
		I'm amazed.
		never would have guessed that in a million years.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I was pretty...
		I am.
		I think it's unfortunate that was it the congressperson that suffered this ostracism?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Frances Barwood, a Phoenix City councilwoman, simply requested that there be some sort of investigation, that's all.
		And oh, she suffered, yes.
		And as a matter of fact, it prompted a resurgence of a recall against her, which she fortunately won, by the way.
		I mean, after all, to simply ask a question is a reasonable thing.
		She had, as a you know, a city council person, every right, I think, on the part of her constituents to at least ask.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely agree with you on that point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if something appeared over my city, I'd damn well want to know what it was.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And I would do the same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		All right, anyway, here's before we get into the tough stuff after the top of the hour.
		Ed, I purchased a TRV module, Module 1, not because I wanted to learn remote viewing, but because I desperately wanted to understand the TRV process.
		Now that I've seen the process explained and demonstrated, I've got a question that relates to a comment you made on a previous Coast program.
		You said angels can interfere with a TRV session.
		Since TRV appears to be a cut-and-dry, follow-the-algorithm and checklist procedure, I'd like to know how you determine whether or not you are experiencing angelic interference.
		How are these entities able to disrupt a session when the process is so structured?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It is only under the circumstances where certain types of cues or projects are subject to TRV.
		It's sort of a trapdoor.
		If you hit certain subject areas, they appear to be hovering there at the end, no pun intend, on the interface of mind and something else, and they jump in and take control.
		But otherwise, it's non-interference, as far as we're concerned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But in certain circumstances, there seems to be a trapdoor where if you hit a particular cue, a particular target reference, all of a sudden, Well, you may, but the question was, how are you able to discern whether or not you are experiencing this kind of interference?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The only way that you can know it is if you've solved the problem using technical remote viewing, and the problem results in physical evidence or physical ground truth, then you obviously weren't interfered.
		I think the short answer is you really don't know if they're there or not unless you turn the tool onto your own mind in certain advanced ways and look to see, it would be like the computer turning itself, its analytical power onto its own operating system and analyzing it.
		If one did that using TRV and advanced skills, you could discern the presence of something other than your own mind.
		And then you'd have to track that back and take a look at it.
		And the information that you produced in that case, when we did it, very much fit the description of what the church fathers called angels, to our surprise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the answer is it might not be easy, particularly for the new remote viewer, to discern if they happen to stumble into this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		There are people in my company who believe, personal opinions, that mind is unitary and that this collective unconscious is actually shared, that the angelic mind is really shared by the collective and the collective interacts with it and or is the same field.
		The same field effects are present in both the angelic mind and the human mind.
		So we can avail ourselves of the intelligence of angels and vice versa.
		This gets a little bit complicated and technical.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As you know, Ed, I wrote a book called Cricketing.
		It has, to my delight, and unexpected delight particularly, gone up to the best-seller list.
		It's really amazing.
		It's all over the place now.
		And it's as though it's way past my radio audience.
		It's into the general public.
		People that, you know, don't even hear me on the radio are grabbing up this book.
		And it's, again, because there's some kind of collective understanding that what that book is about, even though I can't go and didn't go as far as you do in understanding what may be coming, I documented the fact that we are in the middle of a change.
		We are the frog boiling now in the hot water, this quickening that's going on.
		And so I guess that accounts for the, you know, tremendous sales of the book or something, the fact that people take a glance at it, and as soon as they look at the summary on the front of the book, they go, yeah, yeah, I know that's true.
		I know deep down somewhere profoundly that that is true, that there is something underway, some great change underway.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we all as humans have this sort of a truth switch where we know that the dead is true or not.
		And Psytech has no monopoly on truth.
		We do have a monopoly on accuracy from the collective unconscious.
		If Carl Jung, for those of you who are familiar with psychology, if he wrote about the collective unconscious and if he discovered the language of the collective unconscious, Psytech has the alphabet.
		That's what technical remote viewing is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, in one case where people berated you for not getting it right, the A-10 that went down in Colorado, there was a story yesterday, Ed, indicating that for all of their looking and all of their searching, the Air Force still does not have the foggiest idea where those four 500-pound bombs Might be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They have not found them.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's probably why we slipped on them because they were jettisoned in the northeast corner of Arizona.
		But that's not why we initiated a search for that aircraft.
		It was to determine whether or not the aircraft and the pilot were intact.
		That's the only reason we did that.
		The location was something that would have taken us at least 30 remote viewing sessions easily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Ed, hold tight.
		After the top of the hour, I'll serve up the warning and we'll get into the other stuff.
unidentified		Will do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the Phoenix Lights update.
		Whoo!
		A hoax, folks.
		What do you think?
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again and again, I warn you, some of the material is going to get a little rough here.
		So if you can't handle it, go elsewhere.
		Don't complain.
		Go elsewhere.
		Major Dames, are you there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		A couple of obligatory questions that I would like to ask on behalf of everybody out there.
		There are some who have ordered the remote viewing Module 1 tape, and it still has not arrived.
		And so for all of those folks, they say, well, they've left the name and number, and they have no response.
		What would you tell them?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We've got most of the stragglers covered, but there's still some that are out there who haven't received the tapes.
		The demand has been so great for Module 1, the delivery has gone from about 10 days to 30 days now.
		But that's not, but we have picked up most of the early orders.
		And we are handling it.
		All I can say is that we're backed up to 30 days now.
		Module 2 is in limited production at the end of October, early November, and that's only going to be mail on a first-come, first-served basis.
		So the demand has been more than we ever expected.
		And we're doing the best that we can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is a number of people can call.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There's a number that they can call to order.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And in the U.S., that's 1-800-556-0391.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And in Canada, 1-888-878-0333.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if they have not yet received their tape but ordered it, and they want to check on the status of their order, is there a number?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There is only our website.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Our website has order status for every single individual who has ordered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's all up there.
		Our webmaster, Martin Simmons, has created a special page with all of the orders on there.
		So people can go in with passwords and find out where their orders are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Let's see.
		Do we have your website up?
		Let me quickly check.
		Yes, we do.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's www.trv-t-s-i-t-e-c-h dot com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or go to my website and just go to the scheduled guest and click on major ad names.
		It will take you right over there.
		All right.
		Let's see.
		An update, if we can, on the plant pathogen.
		You said a long time ago that there was a cylinder that separated from Comet Halebop when it came by and that it contained a plant pathogen that would enter our atmosphere, probably over Africa, begin in Africa, and would kill green things.
		Do you have an update on that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we do have an update.
		And although this is right out of fantasy and science fiction books, I don't know what to say to your listeners.
		We take what we get, and this is as real as all the other work that we do.
		It's out there, and it's heading our way.
		So let me give you a spot report.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It separated about April of this year, shortly after closest approach to Earth.
		And it is inbound on a trajectory from above the plane of our solar system and is heading toward intercept with Earth.
		It's moving around, let's say nominally 20,000 miles an hour, about a half a million miles a day, about 10 months transit time from the point where it separated from the Halebop comet.
		We're looking at an actual impact.
		Yes, it will burn up over equatorial Africa, but there will be a piece of it that appears to crater.
		And the center of mass for that crater, and that is where the impact will actually occur.
		It's going to start, this object will enter Earth's atmosphere somewhere between December and February, December of this year and February of next.
		We don't have the time pinned down tighter than that right now.
		And somewhere along a line that stretches from Eritrea in the north to Swaziland in the south with center mass, that's the most likely impact point, right around the country, right in the country, the small country of Burundi or Lake Victoria.
		Interestingly, the seat of the genesis of our species, of Homo sapiens.
		I find that quite interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, full circle.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There will be spores released as it burns up, and it will be spores released at impact.
		These are very small, larger than a virus.
		We don't know how much larger.
		They're fuzzy.
		They look very much like other spores that we're aware of, microbiologically speaking, and they are going to spread like wildfire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it will kill green things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It will kill green things.
		Not algae.
		And that's lucky.
		Now, I've got some good news along these fronts later, but the bad news I think should be delivered first.
		So, you know, I've mentioned before, and everybody knows I think how severe the winter is going to be this year, both in the northern hemisphere.
unidentified		Very, very severe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's no question that the climatologists and the news media out there has finally, interestingly, caught on to what's going on with the weather.
		And we're beginning to get some amazing reports.
		Now, El Nio is a recurring thing, comes every four years, but this is the largest effect, El Niño effect, that they have ever, ever measured.
		As a matter of fact, so large there is no precedent for it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I have mentioned before, that in conjunction with other things like the jet stream moving around and causing cyclonic disturbances, all of this weather will eventuate in the loss of a tremendous amount of our food crops, both in the United States and in Europe.
		And you are going to see cannibalism in Eastern Europe.
		There are reports of it now, as some of your listeners may know.
		But wait until the winter hits.
		It's going to be really deadly.
		So food.
		People are going to need to start thinking in the next couple of years, they're going to have to start stockpiling food.
		And when those stockpiles run out, there's not going to be that much growing to eat.
		And that's where I have some, I think, good news for people because SciTech has worked long and hard to identify sources of food that in the out years will be available when nothing else is growing and when individuals deplete their stockpiles of food.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long a period of time, Ed, realistically, would a person have to cover to get, to bridge this difficult time coming?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think two to four years.
		We think that this spore that, face it, it's engineered.
		It's intelligently engineered.
		This spore that is contained in this cylinder has a clock, a lifespan of about four years.
		We're not exactly sure about that, but it will turn itself off and either go into a reservoir somewhere or become latent after four years so that the planet can regenerate itself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Another subject, and I'm sure we'll come back to this one, but it is a fellow named Lebed from the ex-Soviet Union said that there are, and 60 minutes did a piece on it, 100,
		100 suitcase nuclear devices that they claim could be activated by an individual in about 30 minutes, apparently missing from the former Soviet Union's arsenal.
		That is very disturbing.
		And you said you had something on the next use of a nuclear device.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think 100 is an exaggeration.
		Maybe.
		But it's of enough concern.
		And these are termed special atomic demolition munitions in the United States.
		They're designed for a special role that I can't go into.
		And the Soviets had similar devices.
		This was of enough concern that we started to take a look at, we actually engineered a technical remote viewing search queue to look at the next use of a nuclear weapon, something that I have been avoiding for years.
		We decided that it's a little bit too dangerous to not look at, and particularly in lieu of this announcement by the Soviet commander.
		When we did this, it didn't take us long to identify the next use of a military weapon.
		And we had to really be careful here because in our search term, we were not interested in the test of a weapon.
		We were interested in a weapon with the intent to kill and where mass casualties were involved.
		So that separated out what we were looking at in terms of the collective unconscious and that pattern of information that we were going after.
		The next use will be on the Korean Peninsula.
		It will be a weapon that is strapped on top of one of their missiles.
		I can't go into the name of the missile program.
unidentified		It's classified.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And in my former life, that was one of my jobs to look at that.
		It will be a missile-delivered atomic weapon, the North against the South.
		And that's a very bad precedent.
		We don't have timelines yet.
		It's a bad precedent because it sets into action a keep up with the Jones' momentum by all the other lesser developed countries who have unemployed former Soviet scientists, weapons designers, who have thought warmer climes and other weapons programs.
		So I think once this is used, once it's used once, it's going to speed up the momentum.
		After that, not too long after that, we're looking at one other incident, this time on the Iberian Peninsula, northern Spain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, before we leave Korea, we all know they're starving to death in North Korea.
		They're pushed right to the edge, and a lot of people have been expecting something awful to happen.
		You said there will be use of one strapped to some sort of probably ballistic type missile.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There is a ballistic missile that the North Koreans have.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I can't mention its name or anything about it, but that has been the one that has been designated for many years to carry North Korea's nuclear weapons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one eternal question, Ed, with regard to the first use of a nuclear device like that is what it would provoke.
		In other words, what would come after that?
		Whether there would become then a war again on the Korean Peninsula, whether they would follow that up with an all-out Invasion from the north, whether we would respond with nuclear devices ourselves, and that's a good place to hang everybody up.
		So, we'll break here and be right back.
		My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
		I hear a lot of people just reject what you say, thinking it is simply too incredible to occur.
		Now, we were talking about Korea, and you think the next use of a nuke will be in Korea, north to the south.
		I didn't want to leave that before I tried to figure out what would happen.
		In other words, there are several scenarios, one being that would precede a general invasion from the north.
		It would be an isolated incident, but surely it would be responded to in some manner by the south or more likely U.S. forces.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All of that's problematic as far as I'm concerned.
		When we conduct technical remote viewing, when we go after a specific pattern of information in the collective unconscious, we're looking at a very specific thing.
		And in this case, it was an event that the next use of a weapon with the qualifications that I mentioned, a massive loss of life and intent to kill, and that's what we got.
		We don't, under those circumstances, there's very little information connected with the rest of the picture.
		We have to do more work for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		All right.
		So that could be discerned, but it would take a lot more work.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but we do have a, close on the heels of that, there does appear to be another event of a lesser magnitude on the Iberian Peninsula.
		That's in this case, what appears to be northern Spain, where a group actually uses the nuclear reactor in northern Spain as a weapon.
		In other words, they break it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A big combat multiplier for a terrorist group.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But the incident on the Korean Peninsula is very strongly apparent to us, and the use of a missile to deliver the weapon is apparent also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I can only imagine, I'm afraid I can imagine, where it would go from there.
		And I would appreciate it if you get any updates.
		And again, you have no timeline for it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, we have to work timelines next.
		Next just means next.
		And, you know, I'd be guessing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		What else have you been working on?
		You said there is some pretty dire information.
		Did we already cover that when we covered the pathogen?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not.
		I mean, there's more to that.
		We're not out to capitalize on millennial madness here.
		There's enough madness to go around right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We're really in the business of trying to save lives.
		And I know more than anyone how incredible the tool that we use is.
		Your tax dollars paid for the development of this tool.
		And I also know how incredible beyond belief some of these things that I'm saying are.
		But I want listeners to remember not these scenarios, because they're going to occur as far as we're concerned, when we say they are.
		But I want them to remember the things that are of survival value after the events occur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which will be what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Food, obviously.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		What we say about food, people will remember.
		That's what I want them to remember.
		Some of the specifics about what will be available to eat, what the pathogens won't kill, what won't be affected by the weather.
		And as you might be aware of right now, most of the trees in Europe are dying.
		Did you know that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, Ed, yes, I've heard that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's really happening.
		And so this is, that in and of itself is incredible.
		So we're living in incredible times.
		But the unconscious is our best friend.
		It is the master problem solver as far as we in SciTech are concerned.
		And it is also our best friend.
		For the Aborigines and the Outback in Australia know that.
		When an Aborigine wants to find water, he or she thinks about the idea of water, and the body immediately responds.
		There's no thinking involved.
		There's no middleman.
		It's the unconscious directly hooked with it, bypasses conscious awareness, goes right to the body, and the body autonomically responds and starts walking in the direction of water.
		That's the kind of thing that we use here in my work.
		We use it in a very systematic, very methodical way to solve very modern, complex problems.
unidentified		But it's the same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In my book, this quickening book that I wrote, which almost wrote itself, and so people are now accusing me of having channeled the thing, it wasn't like that.
		At least I don't think it was like that.
		One never really, I suppose, knows for sure when their thoughts are their own.
		And that is my question, Ed.
		It goes to remote influencing.
		How does a person understand whether it is from a remote viewer doing remote influencing or from something else beyond when their thoughts are their own and when they have been, in effect, injected to them through some means or another?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think remote influencing, it's taken on the connotation that I understand remote influencing, there are some individuals out there who have suggested that, particularly former military types, who have suggested that they were involved in remote influencing, telepathic contact with someone else and mind manipulation at a distance.
		That in fact is not the case.
		We did not do that.
		We tried to make it work, but it never worked.
		What you're referring to is a connection with the collective unconscious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that's what we specialize in in technical remote viewing.
		But we go into the collective the same way that you would go into a library and request from a librarian a Specific book.
		If you go in with a nonsense request, the librarian can't give you a book.
		If you go in with a request for a book that has not been written or that's close to another book that has been written, then the librarian can come out with one or two books along those lines.
		It may not be exactly what you asked for.
		When you're engaged in this process of remote viewing and you're doing it correctly, you are indeed hooked in with your is a robotic act.
		You're downloading exactly the information.
		You're almost a radio.
		It's almost the idea of mental radio where you're programmed into things the way they exist as a pattern of information.
		And your job is to do it correctly and in a robotic fashion, but not get caught up in the drama.
		Because if you start to experience things, the data stops.
		And the data is in the form of ideas.
		Ideas about the target, a person, a place, a thing, or an event, anywhere in space-time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But is there a more casual way this may occur?
		And here's how I'm asking this.
		I wrote a first book about myself, you know, autobiographical, and it was painful, and it was hard to do and a lot of work.
		The second book, at times, was painful because of the information that I was dealing with.
		But I'm telling you, Ed, it just came.
		It just, it gushed out.
		It just poured out.
		And one could almost make the case that, you know, I don't want to say the thoughts weren't mine because I firmly believe they were.
		But the way they came out was almost without effort.
		I knew exactly as I went along.
		It just came.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If you are writing about, if you turn your conscious attention towards an idea, and then your unconscious attention follows to that idea and finds the reality in the collective unconscious, then that's what you are plugged in with.
		Science fiction writers, Arthur C. Clarke is a perfect example.
		He is a very structured writer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very structured indeed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And people wonder how he can always predict things 15 years in advance of their reality.
		Because he plugged into their reality.
		And what he was doing was he starts out as a remote viewer.
		Psychics do this too, natural psychics.
		But what happens is that because they do not have the kinds of techniques and methods that we have in TRV, the psychic and people like Arthur C. Clarke, who are structured writers, do not know when their imagination begins to enter the picture.
		They don't recognize when that occurs.
		They don't recognize their own imagination operating upon and overlaying the actual data that's associated with the reality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		All right.
		Let's circle back now.
		There are...
		There was going to be, you said, an event which you thought might possibly be spiritual in nature.
		An event, though, somewhere in the out years 2012, was it?
		2007 to 2012, somewhere in there.
		And it was like sort of a wall that you could not see past.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's sort of a bump, something that we, it's a discontinuity.
		I call it a discontinuity, a discontinuity in human evolution.
		It may occur as early as 99, but the point is that we don't understand it.
		There's something that happens globally all at once, and it's either beyond our ken as remote viewers, or we just haven't gotten our teeth into it sufficiently enough to flesh out what is happening.
		It may deal with a sudden collapse of Earth's magnetic field.
		There's a lot of different peopling things that go on if that would be the case in terms of the atmosphere, in terms of what kind of a snap that that would occasion for all of us and for all living things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, it's odd you should say that.
		Tomorrow night, it's been a year.
		I've got Gordon Michael Scallion coming on.
		Gordon is suggesting and suggested in a fact to me that what he is going to say tomorrow night, and the reason he's saying it is because the term is so short, the timeline is so short that despite his condition, he does not have a good physical condition.
		He's going to come on the air because the timeline is so short.
		And what he's suggesting is the El Nino as we see it now is not the same cyclical four-year El Nino that we've had in the past, but something very different that is being caused by and will lead to a pulse shift.
		Does that sound possible?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It may, I don't know.
		We're looking at 1999, an event, some type of a pulse or something that I've alluded to a moment ago, and 99 appears to be the year.
		And that's all I can say right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Now, you brought up this word pulse.
		Ed, last week, I don't know if you got an opportunity to hear it or not, I had an extremely, extremely odd event that I would like to suggest to you for it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I know that event, and we've already begun to attack it.
		We were interested in it, too.
		I happened to be listening when that happened.
		Just referring to that caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		And not, well, the caller was part of it.
		But the fact that GE AmeriCom has told us they lost EarthTrack with GE1 on 50 of 200 channels, that doesn't sound right to me.
		And by the way, it doesn't sound right to the president of my network either.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was very odd and unique enough to spark my interest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It makes a hell of a session.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would be a number of sessions.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		remember we double check our work and you know have to stand by uh we are a corporation so we can't afford to We can't afford to make mistakes like institutes or centers or facilities, those kinds of things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have a lot of enemies, don't you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I make more every day.
		There's a lot of folks that want to shoot the messenger, and these are not glad tidings that I usually bring.
		But again, what I want people to remember are things like chlorella and something else that I'll talk about.
		That when the going gets rough and when one turns around and there is no food on grocery shelves or anything in the garden, there's other things that can keep you alive.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've talked about food.
		Now, there are other areas of preparation, I suppose, based on what you see.
		I can imagine economic disruption, social disruption, all kinds of disruption requiring other areas of preparation.
		Assuming you've got food and you've prepared, what else should you prepare for?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we are looking at a global economic collapse next year, mid-year, next year at the latest.
		We're looking at the loss of a U.S. leader through an act of God, if you will.
		In fact, I'm going to send you a sealed envelope with the name of that leader in there.
		You can have it notarized if you wish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But weather will eventuate in destruction of food crops.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The microbes and diseases will be an extremely difficult thing to get around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's another one, Ed.
		In the news, all over the place lately, suddenly we're getting bugs that are not affected by even the last-ditch antibiotics that we have.
		I've seen about five or six stories in major publications and on the networks about these new superbugs that don't care about anything we've got, even the strongest final ditch stuff.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've caused a lot of that, as you know, but I think that it's Earth's antibiotic, Earth itself.
		She's taken a lot of abuse, and I think she's administering her own antibiotic, if you know what I mean.
		Take a look at, it's a heartback to ecology 101.
		If you take a sack of flour, and it becomes infested with flower beetles, I've actually seen this.
		If you take these flower beetles, or very small beetles, have very small larvae.
		If you seal the sack up, that the beetles can't get out, but air can get in, and they have plenty of food, a point is reached where there's still plenty of food, and the population increases, and then they die en masse.
		Even though there's lots of flour left for the flower beetles to consume, they're poisoned by the accumulation of their own waste products.
		We've turned this garden earth into a cesspool, but this garden is living unlike the sack of flour.
		And it's administering its own antibiotic and it's getting some help.
		The southern hemisphere, that's not going to get hit by so much terrible weather in terms of cold and snow, is going to be hit by an antibiotic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An antibiotic.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that will take out a lot of green things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That would be, since we won't have any food in the north, eventually, and the southern climes are warm enough and will have enough light to grow food, it's very interesting that this thing is impacting in the southern hemisphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, survival is not just food.
		Food is a very important ingredient.
		You've got to have water.
		You've got to have some kind of power, presumably, particularly if you live in an area where I do, where our summers reach, you know, 115 degrees at times.
		You've got to have various things to survive.
		You've probably got to have guns because you're going to have some unfriendly neighbors when all of this begins to occur.
		So there are a lot of areas to consider with regard to survival beyond food, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I don't think you're going to have that power, Art.
		I mean, you'll have AM radio hither and yon.
		You're not going to have the internet.
		A point's going to be reached where, let's say that there is a pulsing.
		There goes the geosynchronous satellites.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Back to AM radio and ham radio.
		That'll be there.
		And what you'll need most is food, a water supply.
		You'll probably have to be underground because of conditions in the atmosphere.
		What is going to make crop production untenable will make being out in the open untenable also.
		But more than anything, you're going to have to have communities of like-minded people because you're not going to be able to go it alone.
		You need a community.
		There will be probably a whole lot of prayer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There will be those who will organize for protection of the common.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's correct.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Like-minded people and communities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does it turn into sort of a Mad Max world outside of that?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're going to leave, aren't you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If somebody wanted to book passage with you, are you taking a group with you or are you going by yourself?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		I'm going.
		I'll meet other people as they filter in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there are certain people that you are expecting to be with you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In one of these isolated, protected areas?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Basically, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't say I blame you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you up for a few questions from the audience?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I am, but I want to talk about one more source of protein that is guaranteed, and then I'll do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Chlorella, and apparently something more.
		Stay tuned.
		That's next.
		This is Coast to Coast Air.
unidentified		Coast to Coast Air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We were going to talk about protein.
		Chlorella is one thing that will grow when nothing else will, which is coming soon.
		You mentioned there was a second source.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Chlorella has all the essential amino acids that we need to stay alive, all of them.
		And it's very healthy, I might add.
		But it only has about 2 to 3% protein.
		And therein lies the problem.
		But there is something else that is a guaranteed food source in the out-years that supplies plenty of protein.
		And you're not going to want to hear this.
		But nevertheless, it's there.
		And I want people to remember this.
		Earthworms.
		They're not very palatable.
		In fact, I've seen menus called incorporating them into what has been termed the surprise pie and other things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, I can imagine sort of a chlorella pie waste with earthworms.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're very freckened, very, I was going to say fertile, no pun intended.
		But they eat anything, any organic material, all waste, including human waste.
		They are super recyclers and they multiply like mad.
		So this worm of the earth has all the protein that you need, and it'll be there.
		It'll be there, and you just have to prepare the ground the right way.
		And when it all goes to hell in a handbasket and there's nothing left to eat, if you've got a good menu for these, and there are some out there, by the way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you prepare a worm in any tasteworthy manner?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I've seen these, but all we know is as remote viewers, that's one of the things that's there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually, it does make sense.
		I mean, they live in the earth, so they would just be better to go out and throw your arms up and say, Lord, take me now.
		It's that or chlorella and worms.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, there'd probably be no fish, so you have to use earthworms or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, fish are already in trouble, and I guess you know about this hysteria business, closing waterways now in Maryland of all places.
		And it appears as though hysteria is something that lays at the bottom of the ocean and awaits the proper pollutants, which I guess it is now receiving because it's activating, leaving lesions, bloody lesions on fish, and now human beings, too.
		They are learning this is now affecting human beings.
		So, you know, Ed, you're saying a lot of things that a lot of people don't want to hear, and that makes them angry.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But what I want them to remember, and I know how angry people become when they hear this, what I want them to remember is in the out years, when they look around and there's very few things left to eat, remember what I said about earthworms and chlorella.
		This green algae, these earthworms, will keep you alive.
		If you have other problems and you don't know what the source of the problem is, then I would advise you to learn technical remote viewing today as fast as you can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There would not be enough protein then in chlorella to keep you alive properly over a long period.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There would be if you ate a lot of it each day.
		You'd have to have big cakes like those Sally and Green type of cakes that we saw in the movie.
		And in fact, I think that that idea filtered down to the writer's mind when he made the movie, wrote the movie Sally and Green.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd eat a lot of chlorella before my first worms.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't know.
		I've heard that actually people who try these things like surprise pie, that's one of the names of a recipe that I've heard, evidently it's fairly palatable, but I do not know how they make it palatable right now.
		I guess I'll research it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just the idea of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you really didn't know, but the problem is you would know.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, art, pond scum.
		Pond scum and earthworms.
		That's what we're talking about here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pond scum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what chlorella is, really.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, freshwater algae with a big central nucleus that can repair its damage really easily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can stomach that.
		Really, chlorella is something that I can just barely stomach and imagine I would eat before I'd starve.
		Earthworms, marginal.
		But maybe.
		All right, let's try a few questions.
		It's going to lead us, I'm sure, back to places we've already been.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good evening, Art.
		Good morning, Art.
		Hi, Ed.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pushing my VIP button as I should have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, are you there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's try it again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, this gentleman calling from where, please?
unidentified		I'm in Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air now with Ed.
unidentified		Thanks for taking my call, Art.
		Hi, Ed.
		Yeah, first of all, I want to tell Art real quick, the first hour you were on, 40 minutes of your show didn't come through here in Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am aware of that.
		They had transmitter troubles or something.
		But what I did will re-air, obviously, I think in Las Vegas between 3 and 4.
unidentified		Right.
		Okay, great.
		I wanted to know, since I'm a remote sensor, which is a naturally born remote sensor, what your opinion is on remote sensors since we don't base any of our opinions off large-scale technological, military-funded-type psychic cohesiveness.
		But we nonetheless can predict things, and we try to warn people of them.
		At least I would like to think we do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, but the question, Ed, is reliability, isn't it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a natural psychic, or people like that are natural psychics.
		And they're born to the right on the bell curve in terms of getting data, but they're not consistent.
		And for military purposes and for life or death circumstances, we had to have a tool that was on, dead on, all the time, every time.
		And natural psychics were not consistent enough for us to do that.
		Now, when we train, in PsyTech, when we train a natural psychic, if they toe the line, they not only become professionals, but they can become superstars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's a pretty good question for you.
		The man I just spent, I thought, saying goodbye to because I thought he was leaving Daniel Brinkley, is not a natural psychic, but became one when he was struck by lightning.
		Now, all of this is well documented, Ed.
		There's absolutely no question about it.
		I mean, the guy's shoes, the nails in his shoes were riveted to the floor.
		He was on fire.
		It disrupted his body to this very day.
		I mean, terribly.
		He walked with crutches for months and months or even years, really.
		And he became psychic after this occurrence.
		And this does occur.
		That's a different kind of psychic, isn't it?
		Some are born natural psychics.
		Others seem to have something traumatic that occurs to them that makes them psychic.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		There are some famous cases along these lines besides Danien.
		Peter Hercos, the Dutch painter, fell off the scaffold and his head is a case in point.
		When I was in the Pentagon, I got a lot of the net letters that were sent to the Pentagon along these lines.
		And there was an individual, a young man, who was institutionalized by his father about twice a year for paranoid schizophrenia.
		And he would write us letters and talk about secret projects that were going on in various places, and he was dead on.
		He was only dead on and very accurate during those bouts of paranoid schizophrenia.
		I would have to subject each one of these cases to technical remote viewing to determine the causal factors that are behind that to understand why.
		And we have not done that.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eastern the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Daves.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, how are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
unidentified		I'd like to ask the Major something first.
		I have a couple of comments and questions.
		Speaking specifically about the last incident you described about the young man, I had something that happened to me one morning in my home in my small town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, by the way?
unidentified		I'm in Louisiana.
		I'm originally from a small place called Mamu.
		Okay.
		And I was getting into an argument with my parents.
		So I decided to just walk around the block and do a little bit of prayer and meditation.
		And I saw this beautiful, fabulous sunrise, and I began to...
		And I didn't expect anything to happen.
		And I got back and I noticed as I walked towards my home, there was something falling out of the air.
		And I caught it, and the moment it fell into my hands, and I looked at it, I knew what it was, and it was manna.
		And I can describe it.
		I can tell you what it tastes like, what it looks like.
		I even had two witnesses who saw it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's like manna of the Bible.
		Ed, I'll tell you what question it brings to mind, and that is prayer.
		I should ask you about prayer.
		They've done a lot of interesting work, Ed, with prayer.
		And CNN was running a series last week, much like this gentleman was talking about, not specifically, but much like it.
		And there was a physician on there, and he was saying there is absolutely no question about the power of prayer.
		Now, he working, now he suggested that it may well be like, you know, the sugar pills that people are getting, given placebos, that they work 70% or 80% of the time, placebo will actually work to cure a physical ill.
		So he said, you know, it may not matter what you have faith in, but the key word is faith.
		Is that why the power of prayer works, Ed?
		Or do you imagine there to be more to it than that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm not certain how it works.
		The factors, the spiritual mind factors and one's connection and all, I don't know personally.
		I just know how powerful it is.
		A whole lot more powerful than remote viewing.
		And as you might know, there's two, we recognize two types of prayer, generally speaking, intercessor, the thing that many of us are doing for your friend right now as he lays in the hospital.
		And petitionary prayer, the kind of prayer we do for ourselves.
		And it's just a very powerful thing, Art, and it's a whole lot more powerful than what I deal with in my business.
		But it's very personal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's quite a statement to make.
		I'm surprised to hear you making that, in fact.
		On what basis do you make that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You can't engage in technical remote viewing for a long time without becoming very, very aware that there's something greater up there that you're starting to scaffold your way into.
		And then you realize that, whoa, this is just a stepping stone to something bigger.
		And something bigger is a very spiritual environment.
		Let's not kid ourselves here.
		We die and our souls leave.
		They go somewhere.
		This place is a big garden, this thing that we're destroying that's getting help outside help now.
		And souls being harvested here, we're very much like flower heads that are cut and harvested or ears of corn or bodies or the rest of the green stuff just goes back to fallow.
		And our minds kind of slough off and the energy there dissipates.
		But these souls are, they're harvested.
		And we hesitate to use the G-word a lot, especially us technocrats like me.
		But that's what's leading this planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any idea of the nature of souls?
		In other words, when we die, whether in fact we lead multiple lives as in reincarnation, or whether our experience here on earth is a one-time affair.
		Any thoughts on the nature of the soul?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Looks like it's a one-time affair.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One-time affair, one-time.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		This idea about past lives, as remote viewers, we tune into the idea of a past life.
		It's like just that.
		We're tuning into a life that's like ours, like on our radio dial.
		I think I may have talked to you about this before, where our personalities may be very much like someone in the past who has lived.
		The template or the mold of personality may be so similar that we actually tune into that on the radio band, so to speak.
		For instance, 2 AM radio stations can share the same frequency, and you can hear both of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, is this different?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An opinion that comes from Ed Dames, or is this some sort of result of remote unit?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's both.
		It's not a locked-in thing.
		I don't hang my hat on it, but the evidence that we have today, it's in the area of continuity of consciousness.
		See, we don't have chain of custody on the soul when it means.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good way to put it.
		Hold on, Ed.
		We're at a breakpoint.
		We'll be right back.
		My guest is Major Ed Dames.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		Think to myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Major Ed Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Major, are you there?
unidentified		Still here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
		Well, let's see who wants to kill the messenger and who wants to just ask good questions.
		Was to the Rockies.
		You're on here with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, gentlemen.
unidentified		This is Dave Infresno, a first-time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dave.
unidentified		Hi, I was curious, will the spores from this inbound cylinder have any possible negative impact on humans or animals?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't appear so.
		It appears like you could stand right next to the impact crater.
		In fact, we have sketches of individuals in the impact crater, generally having fun.
		And there's zero impact on mammals or animals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Directly.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it appears to be nitrogen-fixing plants.
unidentified		That's interesting.
unidentified		And about the Phoenix lights, something I've been thinking about, could it possibly have been something that was out of phase with a slightly just enough for it not to have any radar contact?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Now, as far as we're concerned, no.
		We stand by our work, our commercial work, the same way we stand by this.
		It was UV lasers, and that's it.
unidentified		Interesting.
unidentified		Okay, 73, Zert, get some food.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care, thank you.
		On the first time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Fine.
		This is Marty calling from Oakland, New Jersey.
		How are you this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just fine.
unidentified		Earlier on your guest, the Major alluded to a couple of things.
unidentified		One was the Earth's magnetic field, and the other thing he alluded to were these incredible droughts taking place in North Korea, New Guinea, while other places on the globe are now receiving as much rainfall in three days as they normally get in an entire year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a fact.
unidentified		About 15 years ago, there was a story in the news stating that the United States government was going to loan to the Soviet Union two machines known as geomagnetic weather modification units.
		These are machines that allegedly generate an electromagnetic field 100,000 times more powerful than the Earth's magnetic field.
		And what these machines do is they use electromagnetic energy to alter regional weather patterns.
		And the purpose of this loan was to extend the Soviet wheat growing season.
		Can your guest comment at all about the existence of these machines and the possible effects they're having on the global climate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about the machines.
		I do know about some exchanges that were along the lines of weather modification, but they had nothing to do with geomagnetic field alterations.
		They were with, in fact, we even had a corroborating project with the Chinese, and they dealt with cloud seeding.
		That's all.
unidentified		Okay, thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Cloud seeding.
		Do you know of any other weather experimentation that's been done, Ed, besides the seeding of clouds?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but it's based upon classified work art, and I can't talk about it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Particularly in the erstwhile Soviet Union.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Thames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Dan in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Ed, I'm sorry.
		Art, you're doing a great job.
		Seems like you got a second win, and when you do something you love, it energizes you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's how it works.
unidentified		I have two questions for Ed.
		Ed, have you noticed the change in the Schuman frequency?
		I think about two years ago it was around eight cycles per second, and now supposedly it's up around about 12 and a half.
		And I wondered if that influences your remote viewing, because when you do meditation, you try to get the body tied in with the Schumann frequency or the Earth's heartbeats.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We've never, using Faraday shields over the years, movemental, everything, we've never had any deleterious effects in changing magnetic fields on our remote viewing.
unidentified		The second question is, do you have any idea of what's happening with all these plane crashes, military plane crashes in the last few days?
		There's one that just disintegrated at an air show out here in Maryland.
		It's just like some kind of shockwave hit it and it fell apart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was very odd.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you referring to the Stealth 117?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very, very odd indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I would imagine, Ed, you've not had time to do any work on that yet, but boy, that would be wonders.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, nor have we had a reason.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it strikes me as synchronicity, but that isn't anything that would spark my interest as much as, say, other anomalies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you like to do these days, by the way?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I like to research the soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good one, all right.
		That's a good one, all right.
		Can you really reach far enough with remote viewing to get the real answers about our soul?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We can get a lot of data as long as we connect the data with an existing person, that is a person here, a physical person in a material life, then we can get data on the soul.
		Once an individual, a target individual dies, then we can't locate the soul any longer.
		So we research living individuals and their souls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Should remote viewing be able to follow a soul past death?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it can do that.
		My vice president, Joanne Durick, has an excellent theory and a lecture on this very same topic.
		And she suggests that the soul is in another sort of a dimension.
		And because we're in this dimension and it's in another, there's a disconcatenation.
		There's no way to effectively take, there's no correspondence between information from that dimension to this one here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what would you say then of people, psychics, and so forth who claim they can communicate with departed souls?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have to say I just don't accept that from my perspective.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't have all the answers by any means, but I can't accept that based upon my own experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's fair enough.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, gentlemen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		San Antonio, Texas.
unidentified		My name is Pat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Pat.
unidentified		I've got two questions.
unidentified		I did not hear a timeframe as far as the nuclear device being detonated in Korea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's because he said he doesn't yet have that.
unidentified		Oh, I'm sorry.
		I missed that.
		And also, curious, several times, Ed, you've mentioned that living underground would only be suitable in the future.
		Is that because structures won't be able to handle the climate changes, or what is the specific reason for that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember.
		Let's see, I didn't mention that it would only be suitable in the future.
		I said that we would have to be living underground in the future, or below ground, because of winds, very high winds, and because of ionizing radiation during the day.
unidentified		So no structures will be able to protect you from the radiation?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Structures will be able to do that, but the high winds will require very, very solid structures, and therefore it's much easier to build underground than it is above ground.
		Some areas will experience exceedingly high winds, cyclonic winds in areas that have never had cyclones before.
		Extra-tropical cyclonic winds.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Well, thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
		Oh, they just gave up.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Evan from Jackson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jackson.
unidentified		Mississippi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mississippi, all right.
unidentified		I want to comment on CNN back in March when they had reports on the incident in Phoenix.
		There was more than just reports on lights.
		There were reports on the V-shaped craft.
		I believe the kid described it as like a mirage-like object that he could see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There were all kinds of reports.
		There were people who saw a solid craft.
		There were people who saw no stars between lights.
		There were others who thought they heard a hum.
		There are a variety of reports.
		But remember now, with any given incident like a robbery or something that occurs that's very dramatic, you're inevitably going to get eyewitnesses telling a million different stories.
unidentified		Well, what I was going to say was that the way the kid described the V-shaped craft as it being mirage-like and silent and low-flying was identical to a craft that I saw back in October before any reports of any craft came up.
		And as a matter of fact, I sent you an email about it.
		If you look back, an email from, I'm not going to give out the address, but it has the word spike in the address.
		I describe exactly what that kid described and his family described.
		I was just wondering if Mr. Davis could comment on that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We have targeted those lights.
		If you look at those lights, some of them are elongated and other photos are shorter.
		So it's really pretty apparent that if something has lights on the bottom of it, that thing, at least in March 13th and 18th in Phoenix, it had different lights, different fuzzy images.
		And there was nothing in the sky.
		There was nothing on radar.
		There was nothing visual outside of those fuzzy, glowing, what in the laser light show arena is called Lumia.
		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lumia.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That's the made-to-order event that you can order a laser light show company to make for you.
		That's one of the effects.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I could order one for Prump.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You could order one perump.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First-time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Tucson, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Oh, you've got your radio on.
		Turn that off.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go right ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, go, go, go, go.
unidentified		Yes, I wanted to talk to the major.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And just about, I've had very many psychic experiences, but they tend to be around the idea or the subject of being able to sense and experience the presence of good and evil.
unidentified		And I wondered if in any of his experiences that he, if he, if he had any of those types of encounters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a very good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, what about the subject of Good as in God, and evil as in the devil.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We've talked about this briefly in earlier shows.
		The only time I've run up against something like that where I could conclusively say I think this is evil, is in the case of working in the topical search, the broad generic term, using technical remote viewing, of Satan and the false prophet, which is a very scary one.
		And in those two instances, I can pretty much conclusively say I was up against something that any reasonable person would call evil.
		When you worked Satan as a remote viewing topic, and any of you folks who learn remote viewing, I would advise you to stay away from this one because you won't like the results.
		It deals with torturing and killing children, and you'll get various instances of that against that search term.
		The one, the topical search on the false prophet, is very interesting indeed.
unidentified		Would that be the Antichrist?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, the Antichrist is a field effect.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's not an individual, whereas the false prophet is what's called the objectification of the Antichrist in terms of, It looks like a person, but it's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you mean by a field effect?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Field effect would be think of when we refer to the spiritual, spiritual side of things.
		The idea of spirit is like a radio field, radio waves.
		It permeates everything, everywhere, that idea of spirit.
		The idea of Christ and Antichrist are field effects also.
		But the idea of Satan or, let's say, Jesus of Nazareth, those are real people, you know, juxtaposed in time-space in very interesting ways.
		But they're flesh and blood manifestations of an idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's remarkable.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Higher level search terms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when you go and you look at the devil or pure evil, it's something you would not recommend people do.
		Now, you've got a lot of tapes out there, and a lot of people are going to be able to remote view.
		You wouldn't recommend that as one of the early targets?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I certainly would not.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there danger for a person?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, we've talked about this before, and you've generally said there is not danger in remote viewing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There isn't any danger per se, but there's a responsibility that comes with information.
		I mean, it's if, for instance, one were to remote view a murder and now know where and who the murderer is, what kind of responsibility do you have, I mean, morally and ethically, to do that?
		I know of a number of different murder cases where a husband or son, for instance, was the victim, and yet or sci-tech remote viewers working independently discovered that the husband or son was involved in organized crime or something else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what do you do with information?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Personal choice, or you make a personal decision, yes or no, on what to do.
unidentified		It all boils down to personal ethics and morals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That could be a lot to carry.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of things that are a lot to carry out there.
unidentified		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But I think that, again, the more balanced, we find that the more balanced an individual is, physically, emotionally, intellectually, and intuitively, if you've got that degree of balance, you're okay on all those fronts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, what is the phone number?
		I want to give you a chance, make you plug your TRV tapes.
		There are two numbers, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If you want to learn this, we have TRV modules out there.
		And our U.S. number is 1-800-556-0391.
		And for you Canadians, it's 1-888-878-0333.
		And of course, we can be reached on the World Wide Web.
		And there's technical support at all times on the web, on our bulletin board, and in our chat rooms.
		We have SciTech staff and myself on the bulletin board handling and all of your technical questions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Module 1 is available now.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's out there.
		A lot of people are using it.
		Rave reviews.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, I know.
		And it should get rave reviews.
		The production is superb.
		I have it.
		I know.
		Module 2.
		When does that come?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Module 2 is final editing and beta testing at the end of this month and on the street early October.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Luminated production and full production in November.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where will Module 2 take people from where Module 1 took them?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Module 2 is a four-tape set and it is virtually all the skills they will need to know to solve problems that are quite difficult in nature.
		To be able to remote view, to be able to gain data, accurate data on a person, a place, a thing, or an event.
		And in some cases, a topic.
		For instance, something like the cure or the cause for AIDS.
		And we teach you how to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is your best guess about what might occur if there were suddenly millions of remote viewers out there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What effect socially, worldwide, would that have?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I really don't know.
		Things are moving too fast, Art, for me to be able to do that.
		One thing I've noticed is that a very skilled remote viewer does not need faith anymore, which is a very profound thing.
		They begin to have absolute trust in the universe.
		See things, they become very trusting in the grand scheme of things.
		En mas, what kind of effects we're looking at?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you're saying that people are able to convert what required faith to absolute knowledge.
unidentified		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And they move on to absolute trust.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that's pretty neat.
		All right.
		You hanging on for the final hour?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If you want me to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		All right.
		Stay right where you are.
		Remember, folks, you don't want to go look at the devil.
		Not first thing, anyway.
		I'm.
		James.
		Hi.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Hi, how you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		You know, I'm fairly young, and I've, you know, obviously I'm a first-time caller, and I'm not too sure I understand the concept of what you're talking here.
		It sounds almost like a prophecy or something like that.
		So I'm just kind of concerned, like, how would something like this affect in the most part, or for the most part, the younger people?
		Like, I'm talking the real young people, the youth.
		What's the concern there?
		And my second point is, as far as the food storage, which you're talking about earlier, I've come from a real small area here in New Mexico, in a wide open land, small town, and we've buried several military food items in the ground for emergencies and stuff like that.
		And is that what you're talking about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how long have you been listening tonight?
unidentified		Pretty much the whole time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much the whole time.
		All right.
		Well, remote viewing, we gave a brief explanation at the beginning of the program.
		But as far as the future is concerned, here's the facts that might help you out.
		Art, we are going to convert our little bakery up here in Seattle to a worm farm.
		And we're going to be your next sponsor, absolutely fresh worms, hand-plucked from our dirt to your door overnight for one low price.
		Fred and Mike, listening to Coma.
		Now, I was just kidding.
		Your question is quite serious, Ed.
		For the young people out there, if there are any up listening and worrying, how old are you?
unidentified		I'm 26.
		What I was kind of thinking about is more like, you know, teens and stuff like that.
		Even though they might not be listening, I mean, what is the concern with them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's really a good question, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, my stepdaughter is 15.
		My son is 15.
		My youngest son is 13.
		My youngest son wants to learn remote viewing and has been.
		The two 15-year-olds, they know the kind of information that I'm putting out tonight.
		They're aware that I do that.
		I'm in the unfortunate position to have to, on the one hand, try to convince them that they should stay in school and study hard.
		And on the other hand, knowing that they're going to have to dig in in the next couple of years, they're in the unfortunate position of having restless nights, wondering, and nightmares.
		So it's hard all the way around.
unidentified		I don't know what to say about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about advice to parents of these children?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any words of advice for them?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's a personal decision, aren't they?
		I've talked to parents who are remote viewers and know that this works.
		And again, it's a personal decision.
		What do you do with the information?
		You could stick your head in the sand or pull your neck in and pretend like nothing's happening.
		But if you don't do that and you're aware that something is happening, for instance, here's a 26-year-old man who's buried food in the ground, C rations or K rations or something like that.
		Something told him to do that.
		Maybe it was an insurance policy.
		But there's something out there.
		People smell this coming.
		You can either choose to ignore it or choose to pay attention to it.
		One way or another, it's very troublesome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, Ed, certainly it's going to be true that there are some people who are better off not knowing, aren't there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not everybody's a fighter.
		Not everybody's going to eat chlorella and worms and do whatever it takes to stay alive, nor are they going to want to.
		And they're just better off, some of them, not knowing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a hard, harsh statement, but I believe it's true, personally.
		Western Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, this is Lynn.
unidentified		I'm speaking to you from Kennellick, Tri-Cities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Barron.
unidentified		Yes.
		And I'm very pleased to have gotten in touch with you.
		I've got both of your books.
		And my name is spelled like Lynn Whitlick spells his first name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		But anyway, my question is, is there a way for us to see this object, this cylindrical object coming toward us?
		And is there a way to extrapolate the direction from where it come from, if it's with respect to that...
		Well, that may be a good question, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		All right, Ed.
		Could anybody see it coming?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I have a pretty good feeling that NORAD will pick it up coming in.
		We're not exactly sure how large it is.
		We haven't done any target geometries on it.
		That's one way to use remote viewing.
		A target geometry is to establish a size as well as shape.
		We have not done that.
		But it's going to at least be as big as a boloid as it comes in.
		And I've got a sneaking suspicion that Neurai will pick it up.
		Stopping it, who are we kidding?
		Right now we're talking beyond science fiction and fantasy, so that's not going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you go, caller.
unidentified		Well, yeah, thank you very much.
unidentified		Also, people can listen to your program when they get connected, so they can turn the radio off at any time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		All right, thank you.
		Now, take care.
		All right.
		Here's a pretty good question for you, Ed.
		Art, what kind of track record does Ed Dames or his remote viewers have in terms of predicting future probabilities?
		Please ask them to be as specific as possible about what they have predicted and what they have been on target about.
		In other words, your track record.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think first thing to understand is that in terms of predicting and crystal ball stuff like this, we're not doing that.
		We're extracting information that already exists as 100% likelihood somewhere in another domain.
		In this case, the collective unconscious.
		If you look at our website on the website, we have examples of our work.
		And the TW800, Flight 800 work that we have shows the work that we've done to indicate what part of the aircraft broke and how it initiated a sequence of events.
		The frogs, the deformed frogs, although those frogs, that information could have been derived from open source literature, that was an example of technical remote viewing done in-house at SciTech as a milestone, as a mile marker to predict the collapse of ecological collapse on Earth.
		I have to think back, but I think the best examples we have are on our website.
		And they deal not necessarily with the future, because we've only been around publicly for about four years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds about right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we did work for Fortune 500 companies quietly for the first five years of the company's existence.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So most of our open source work has only been in the last four years or so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but in that time, if you look at the major projects that you have engaged in at SciTech, what would the record look like?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In terms of future stuff, not mostly generic global stuff, generic global ecological things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the reasons I'm sending you an envelope that I want you to notarize.
unidentified		It details the death of a U.S. leader next year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Depending on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will do that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Our track record is good with regard to, as you look on the website, with regard to high-visibility projects like murders and disasters.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But we don't have much of a track record yet on future stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hiart, ask Major Dames if he sees the government in Washington relocating elsewhere during this two to four year problem, Mad Max problem time.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Don't have any information on that.
		That's not something we've targeted, although we have looked at the death of a U.S. leader.
		We really have concentrated on that.
		And that's as a result of, let's call it an act of God, natural causes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if the somewhat less than amazing Randy would consider the sealed envelope notarized to be a good test.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Probably not.
		I mean, if you think about it, I've been engaging in some amazing Randy stuff tonight, vis-a-vis the Phoenix Lights.
		That's the kind of stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have, if you're not sure.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He does.
		It's absolutely true.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		Calling once, twice, three times, gone.
		That's one more than I usually give him.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, go ahead.
unidentified		Well, I have a couple questions in regards to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to speak up.
unidentified		Well, I had a couple questions in regards to, you know, the project LACID, you know, which pertains to basically, you know, ID cards being implanted in the, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't even hear you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something about ID cards?
unidentified		Yeah, basically, I was wondering basically if Major Ed can possibly, or has possibly viewed Project LUCID.
unidentified		Project Lucid, have you ever heard of that, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I haven't.
unidentified		Basically pertains to devices or implants in children and possibly humans in the near future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if that is all, or if that is a real implants, right?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Ed, do you know anything about implants?
		Everybody's always worried about implants.
		The government shall implant us with this and that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I know about some work that the French have done in implanting credit cards, miniature credit cards, under the skin and the wrist area, but other than that, no.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The French have actually done some of that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, on the French Riviera.
		It's very convenient.
		You don't have to walk around with a wallet.
		You can slide your hand in the scanner and charge your drink or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it would be somewhat painful converting from gold to platinum, wouldn't it?
		I mean, one's got to come out and the other's got to go in.
		That was a joke, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, over my head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		Going once, going nice, gone.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hey, Art.
		It's Kevin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I've been calling you for a while now.
		I'm calling from Glenwood Springs, Colorado.
		Jay?
		Hey, well, I've been trained extensively in survival, and I've done a lot of remote viewing over the years of my own independently.
		I've done a lot of research into, well, all the world religions and a lot of prophetic aspects of it.
		And I'm listening to what he's saying, and a lot of it I can go right along with.
		It's a little more vague than what's actually available to me and my sources.
		And I was just wondering if he would consider New York being the most likely target, as per a guest you hit on a few years back, who made several predictions about New York.
		each one of them was accurate right down to the day.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I have not targeted New York as a geographical location on a trajectory.
		That's what we would do.
		A place or a person, enterprise, group of people subject to a timeline.
		In other words, we look at the trajectory in terms of state-space analysis.
		We apply technical remote viewing to a thing or a place, look at it in time, mark the significant changes, and go in and explore each change.
		We haven't done that in New York City.
unidentified		Oh, okay, because what we're looking at is possibly one of these backpack bombs being transported into New York.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It could very well be, but the first one's going to pop on the Korean Peninsula, and the second one's going to go on the Iberian Peninsula.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		After that, don't know.
unidentified		Okay, well, we'll see.
unidentified		I believe it's going to be New York, and it's going to probably be within the next, probably within the next 24 months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		There is an old.
		There is another remote viewer who's been saying this for some time.
		Ed, as you well know, I don't need to name him.
		You know who he is.
		That New York would be the target, and that it would be fairly soon.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That was one on the errand students.
unidentified		I know about this.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Art and Ed.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just fine.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
unidentified		Good.
		Ed, you were talking about a like-minded community.
		That was very interesting to me.
		Is this a community that's already in existence that you're going to meet up with, or are they going to meet up with you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, my point was simply that we're not going to be able to make it alone through the hard times for as long as the hard times are going to be in place.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's going to take communities, communities of like-minded people in order to survive.
unidentified		I think what it's going to be is the start of, I know this sounds religious, the first nation of God on earth.
		After all these changes, the only people that are really going to be left that are actually going to survive all this stuff are going to be those kind of people.
		I don't know if you remember, Art.
		You had a guy on Dreamland earlier in the year, Richard Newton, about 55, 2000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Right, he talked about the Adelphi organization.
		You were asking, how are you going to survive all these things?
		And he's talking about the group that was going to go up in those pressurized blimps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Right.
		Do you know anything about them, either of you?
		Called the Adelphi Organization.
		It's headed by Richard Keitager.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've heard of them.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I have not.
unidentified		Very interesting group.
		It's a good group to remote view.
		A very interesting, very special group of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, according to Ed, I would think a blimp would not be a place you'd want to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's saying you need to be underground, right, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're in the wind, then you have no wind to blow past you because you're in the wind current.
unidentified		You know that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If you're in a balloon, then there is no wind speed.
		You're in the wind.
		The wind is blowing you.
		So you're not subject to the kinds of winds that you're subject to if you're stationary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that might be an idea.
unidentified		interesting idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in position and let me push this button.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Am I on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Mobile, Alabama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And I have two questions, if I may.
		The first question is for both of you.
		Okay.
		Because if you have heard of this man, or even if you haven't, I'd like if perhaps you could get him on as a guest, maybe sometime in the near future.
		Have either of you heard of Dr. Carl Baugh, B-A-U-G-H?
		He is the director of Creation Evidences Museum in Glen Rose, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm familiar with his organization.
unidentified		Okay, the reason I bring him up is because he speaks a lot about the Earth's electromagnetic field and some of the topics y'all have mentioned tonight, as well as, you know, evidences for creation.
unidentified		But I think that would be a very interesting show as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And my question for the major is, he mentioned earlier what he got or viewed when he did remote viewing on Satan and the Antichrist.
		Yep.
		I was wondering if he's done it on God and also perhaps the person of Jesus Christ as the Son of God and what he got.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		I can tell you the answer is yes.
		That was Jesus Christ, of course, would be a favorite.
		Obvious topic, right, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
		Jesus Christ, as a technical remote human target, produces ideas.
		I don't want to get into the ideas right now.
		But Jesus of Nazareth as a person, and then we get an individual.
		We use, for instance, Jesus of Nazareth and the crucifixion as a training target.
		So we get to see a centurion and a lean to nailing a person to a board.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you really get to see that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we do.
unidentified		Hmm?
unidentified		That must be, um...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		a two-hour solo, was The Origin of God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		All right.
		Wild Cardline, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
		Hi.
unidentified		Another great show, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I've been glued to my radio.
unidentified		Good morning, Major Dames.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		I have two or three questions.
unidentified		I'll go with as many as Art has time for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, where are you, by the way?
unidentified		I'm in South Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		First thing I'd like to ask is, where's the nearest place to me that might be suitable for living in the near future?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Depends on the individuals we find.
		If we hit the search term sanctuary, we get, as a technically remote feeling, search terms.
		we're going up into the collective unconscious, and there is a number of different places on the planet that appear to be fit those criteria.
		One is western, actually eastern British Columbia.
		There are a couple of places in the Rockies, Switzerland, a few places in Polynesia.
		We haven't explored the topic thoroughly, but all these places have one thing in common.
		They have caves.
		Caves?
unidentified		Caves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Caves or lava tubes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember keyword underground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, I don't think we have anything like that here in South Carolina.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Then you need to dig.
unidentified		That might be a good idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do have shovels in South Carolina, Robert.
unidentified		Oh, yes, we have those, and we may be using them soon.
unidentified		I'd also like to ask that before the end of the show, if you'll give us your web address one more time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mine or Ed's?
unidentified		Oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified		I meant to say Ed's.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, we will do that, but if you'll go to my website and just go down to the scheduled guests, you'll see Ed's name there.
unidentified		It'll be there for a few days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I won't be able to get hold of it tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Well, it's there as an internal link, I'm sure.
		Nevertheless, Ed, what is the address?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		www.trv-p-s-i-t-e-c-h.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, we do have it as a regular link, so no problem, folks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just go to www.artville.com and you'll see Ed's.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And again, we have staff there all the time in chat rooms and Bulletin Ports assisting individuals who are learning TRP via the tapes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So there's always a presence there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
		All right.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		This is Catherine from Hollywood, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Catherine.
unidentified		How are you doing?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Right down the road.
unidentified		I had a couple cool questions for Ed and then one for you too, Art.
unidentified		I was wondering, this interdimensional beings that weren't what they appeared to be that your viewer, that the gentleman called in, you know, the freaky caller that coupled it last week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Well, he said they weren't what they appear to be.
		Could that possibly be the idea of what Ed was speaking about about this false prophet, this individual that isn't what it appears to be?
		I mean, I know he had said kind of comment on he you'd either, I don't know whether you said, Ed, that you had remote view something to do with that, or you intending to?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is intending to.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're going to look at, we're going to use that individual as a jump-off point to find out what's behind that.
		You know, is this a kosher call or a crank call?
		But I'm particularly interested in the actual event of why the plug was pulled on the show in conjunction with that very interesting call.
		So we want to get behind that.
		Only interdimensional beings that we're familiar with in terms of technical remote viewing are what the Navajo call shapeshifters.
		And those are very, those appear to be real things, real creatures.
		I don't want to talk a lot about them tonight.
unidentified		Okay, now that concept you were speaking about earlier, about where you were saying that you didn't want people to remote view, I think it was the devil because of the images of torturing children, or you said.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It was the idea.
		Actually, we've never remote viewed the idea of the devil, but we have remote viewed the topic of Satan.
		And when we do that, each time we do, it's always a similar situation.
		It's not the same situation each time.
		The same point in the collective unconscious Kind of like the idea we had, the proverbial idea of evil then?
unidentified		I mean, is that...
unidentified		When you talked about things like the torturing of children or these horrific type things, I mean, is it maybe an all-encompassing evil type concept and that's why it's not, it's the same every time?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It is the same scenario each time.
		It is the same scenario.
		Children being tortured and killed.
		So that's what we're pulling down from the collective unconscious when we go up against that search term of Satan.
		That's all I can say.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And Art, I wanted to find out, I know you commented a little earlier and that you've got Module 1 yourself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And I was wondering, because I haven't ordered it yet.
		I do intend to, but I was wondering, did you have any experiences or any opinion about it, like other than you do believe, you know, you put a lot of validity in it?
		I mean, what kind of experiences have you had so far?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have I remote viewed?
		Is that your question?
		No, I have not yet.
		Is that your question?
		I found the module to be incredibly informative, incredibly well-produced.
		The real meat of remote viewing will occur in the second module, the meat of how to do it.
		Would that be a fair statement, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The first one exposes you to the techniques and lets you know what it is and that you can do it and that it's real.
		But the second one is are all the problem-solving tools.
		That's a four-tape set.
unidentified		Now, Ed, have you also remote viewed anything having to do with, I mean, this is a real worldly concept, so I don't really know if it would be something, but like the roles of men versus women?
		Like, is there any sort of, you know what I'm saying?
		I mean, something...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Only in one regard.
		And that is with regard to the idea of the Gaia concept.
		It appears that the male element on the planet is the extremely violent one, and is what is causing a reaction in terms of Gaia, in terms of Earth's response.
		And you don't see women going around, you know, committing violent acts.
		It's the male element that is eliciting a response in some regard.
		Other than that, no.
unidentified		Okay, well, thank you so much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		I'll keep listening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
		Somebody asking, again, about a shift in the magnetic field, saying that you said you would explain it and how we could survive it.
		He never did explain it.
		Would you please ask him to explain it this evening?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure if that's going to happen.
		We're getting something in 99.
		It's a very powerful global event that affects the entire Earth at once.
		It appears To be a collapsing magnetic field, but we are not exactly sure about that.
		We haven't paid a lot of attention to it.
		We're being overcome by events.
		And in fact, our company has dropped a cure for AIDS as a project.
		We're on to something, and it was very important to us, and we've dropped it completely because of events that are fast upon us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So we're not looking out at 99 anymore.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We're looking right here at the end of 97 and 98.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're suggesting, in effect, that a cure for AIDS is somewhat academic?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's doable, but it is academic and not problematic because we're being overcome by events that are eclipsing things like that.
		Today, what might seem an extremely important, significant thing for our company to be doing, it's not even on the back burner anymore.
		We've dropped it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Major Dames.
		Several times, no, he's been on the program.
		Major Dames has commented on economic collapse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Specifically use those terms, and we've never heard him elaborate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		My specific question is, am I better off owning everything free and clear, or should I mortgage to the max?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		That is an interesting question.
		economic collapse.
		The market is roaring along up and down, up and down, but basically the economy is...
		The headline yesterday was sizzling.
		How long will this sizzling continue?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Until a confluence of events occurs early next year, late spring, actually, until you have a war in conjunction with no food, in conjunction with disease, disease to the point where many people do not show up for work.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		When those three things begin to occur and occur concurrently, that's the beginning of a collapse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Either that or when Alan Greenspan says, boo.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Arfell, Major Dames.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I just had a couple quick questions.
		The first one was the pulse that Major Dames referred to happening in 1999.
		Does he see that as a climax event, or is that just a step in the series of progression?
		Or what's the story there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We just call it discontinuity.
		It doesn't appear to...
		It appears to be a geophysical moment in time, and it appears to affect all humans at the same time.
		Other than that, I don't know what we're dealing with.
		And again, we've pulled our attention away from it on to the next 14 months or so.
unidentified		And then I want to ask you also fasting.
		Do you have any experience with fasting?
		Not eating?
		No.
		And I know you had mentioned charela and worms as a food source, and I was wondering if you had any experience with Fasting, I would think, might be an aid to remote viewing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, it isn't.
		In fact, it's exactly the opposite, at least right now, the way we do it.
		Anything that is a physical inclemency that would interfere with the autonomic nervous system's response to the signal from the collective unconscious, particularly hunger, of all things, if you are hungry, you are not going to be remote viewing because your body is saying, feed me.
		And you need that autonomic response as in stage one when you first grab hold of this thought ball, this pattern of information as it exists, as a gestalt, or sort of a compressed packet of information that you're going to decompress using remote viewing protocols.
		If you're hungry, your concentration, if this is a highly alert state, your concentration can't be on a task at hand.
		So fasting in terms of TRV techniques is almost verbon in terms of health.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That really is fascinating.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on here with Major Ed Dames.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Kip.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in San Jose, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And my question is, let's see, for Ed, have you ever heard of neotech?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's one question.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe so.
unidentified		Okay, because that's pretty interesting that you just talked about a discontinuity, because the guy that wrote this book talked about that we're going into another level, like you guys talked before, and he shows a chart that shows it kind of skips when we go to this other level.
unidentified		But I guess since you haven't heard about that...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think a guy named Greg Braden, if I'm not mistaken, something to zero point has talks along those lines.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Awakening to Zero Point, I think, is this book.
unidentified		Okay, and then my other question, let's see.
		I'm surprised no one's brought it up.
		You've talked about before that if you don't tell someone about the remote viewing, then it works.
		But if you do tell them, then they can kind of change it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then there would be a paradox creative.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Except for massive events, events that have a large momentum, particularly things like geophysical events, then the individual has a choice whether or not to participate in the event.
		Does free will choice involve?
		If the event is solely connected with one individual, then we run into the paradox problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And in your view, in your opinion, is there a single continuity of time, or is it possible that there are various timelines, that in one timeline, a cylinder is going to land, and In some other timeline, some other dimension, some other earth, it will not occur.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a real new age-y type of thing here all the time.
		And that would be, for instance, if you had an incurable disease, and I had a group of a pool together, a group of psychics, and some of them said that, hey, in one timeline, you're fine.
		And others said, in this timeline, you're not.
		Then I could come to you and say, Art, don't worry.
		Everything's going to be fine.
		You're living well in another timeline.
		I think you get my gist.
		Or an aircraft accident, an explosion.
		In another timeline, are those passengers still alive, or did they die twice?
		I'm not sure that God does play dice with the universe.
		It looks like there is only one timeline most of the time, at least as we discern it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are theoretical physicists who are beginning to suspect there are multi-dimensions.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I know that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All I'm saying is down here where the rubber meets the road, and in my experience, in terms of the practical use of this, what we get, if we're able to discern an event, then it already exists and it's going to happen in our experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as always, here we are through another show.
		It has been a real, real pleasure having you on, Ed, and I hope that you will tackle as a project.
		I really enjoyed the Phoenix Lights thing tonight, and I hope you will tackle what occurred with that satellite last week, which has many, many of us tremendously puzzled.
		Now, it seemed like too much of a coincidence that had occurred during that particular call.
		But even that call, totally aside, the fact that they were able somehow to take our satellite away from us is a remarkable thing, and I would love to know the answer to it.
		So if there's any way you can go after that, go after it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll do that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We go in totally unbiased when we do that with no preconceived notions, and we were able to discern cause and effect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the meantime, I will indeed notarize that envelope when it arrives.
		The one that will predict the death of a world leader.
		All right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You may not want to see it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's coming your way, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll look for it, Ed.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks.
		That's it.
		Those of you who get the hour that is to follow will hear a detailed explanation of my incredible trip to see Daniel Brinkley.
		He is alive.
		If you want to see a photo of him, a quickly put up photo, it's on my website right now on the webcam, the live webcam.
		Simply click on that and you will see Daniel literally hours ago in intensive care.
		It's been quite a few days.
		Thank you all from the high desert.

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