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Aug. 17, 1997 - Art Bell

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Dreamland with Art Bell - Dannion Brinkley - At Peace in the Light. LM Howe - Pfisteria 'Cell from Hell'

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to Dreamland, a program dedicated to an examination of areas in the human experience not easily nor neatly put in a box.
		Things seen at the edge of vision, awakening a part of the mind as yet not mapped, and yet things every bit as real as the air we breathe but don't see.
		This is Dreamland.
		That is exactly what we're dedicated to, things you can't so neatly put in a box.
unidentified		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Art Bell, as usual, Lynn Motenhal from Philadelphia.
unidentified		And then the next week from Tokyo.
		She'll be on the road, or in the air, more likely.
		Don't get to Tokyo by road last time I checked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then, of course, Daniel Brinkley.
		One of the more amazing people on the face of this globe, Daniel Brinkley.
		His latest book, At Peace and the Light, will be talking about many things with Daniel.
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		I have well water, which has a lot of minerals, which really means hard water.
		And the first thing I tried was the machine method, you know, big machine backwashing, chemicals, all that.
unidentified		And it was horrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On every front, trying to keep the chemicals in there, keep the timer working, which kept going out.
		And it was a mess.
		Then, finally, and I've got to be frank and honest with you, I would not have paid for it, GMX came to my home and installed these magnetic arrays on the input water pipes to my home.
		And I never would have believed it could work.
		And so I wouldn't have paid.
		But I called them back a few days later and said, you guys aren't going to believe this.
unidentified		And they said, sure, we'll believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had conditioned water without any of the headaches.
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		From Philadelphia this week and Tokyo next week, here is Linda Maltenhow, investigator in the crop circles, animal mutilations, that sort of thing.
		But much more, really the environment.
		She began as an environmental reporter, won awards for her documentaries.
		This is Linda Moulton Howe Linda, hi.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Art, hi.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, last Sunday I reported about the sightings of a large primate creature near the Ochope, Florida Cypress Swamp in the Florida Everglades.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bigfoot.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I interviewed David Shealy, owner of the Florida Panther Gift Shop and Big Cypress Trail Lakes Campground there, who said two men in black showed up at his house around July 29th, followed by half a dozen helicopters on August 1st above the swamp where the Bigfoot creature had been seen.
		Now, according to Shealy, the men wanted plaster of Paris tracks and a sample of reddish-brown hair that Shealy had gathered from a tree.
		One of the men in black took the hair sample and said they would be back to ask Shealy more questions after analysis.
		At the beginning of the surprising intrusion in his home, Shealy said both men flashed ID badges, one of which had a half-inch red square, the color of a ripe tomato, in the upper right-hand corner of a card.
		On the air last Sunday, I asked for any information about the meaning of such a red half-inch square.
		This past week, I have received two communications by facts.
		One reads, quote, a red square on an ID is a Department of Defense designation of a top secret clearance for a person.
		Blue would designate secret, unquote.
		Another letter states, quote, have seen insignia as mentioned last Sunday.
		It was not on a card, but on a memo in my personal file, which I saw some years later, most of the content was blanked out.
		I was, at that time, in the 1960s working for the National Reconnaissance Organization.
		We were mostly all innocent photo readers and interpreters, given only a minimal of information concerning each high-altitude satellite photo that we read.
		Those, and I'm quoting from his letter, those bastards were periodically all over us.
		I mean that they would follow us back to where we lived, to the movies, vacations, and everything like that.
		We knew they read our mail, bugged our phones, and even watched our friends and relatives.
		On some occasions, they questioned several of us, would come to work, grab and escort a guy out, and we would not see him for the rest of the day.
		He could not tell us what happened.
		None of our bosses could do a thing but watch.
		They, the men in black, did not necessarily wear always black, but I recall always seeing them in dark suits, even in warm weather.
		Not always the dark glasses, but you were warned not to stare or notice them when they intruded into our work, unquote.
		Makes you wonder, Art, why there would have to be this kind of aggressive tactics on things like even satellite photo reconnaissance.
		Now, I talked with David Sheeley today to see if he has had any follow-up from the men in black or any more helicopters near his campgrounds, and he told me it has been quiet since August 1st.
		Now, another story that I have reported in the past few weeks has continued to slowly evolve with millions of dead fish in North Carolina and Maryland related to the presence of the Physteria dinoflagellate creature that is part animal and part plant.
		Fisteria produces bleeding open sores in fish, crabs, shrimp, and people.
		More seriously, Physteria can change into a toxic stage in which its poison can immediately kill fish and other river creatures and affect the lungs and short-term memory of humans exposed to the toxins.
		So far, however, this summer, the massive potential for another billion fish kills like 1991 and 1995 has not yet happened.
		One of the reasons for the reduced number might be related to the research of Dr. Joanne Burkholder, discoverer of the Fisteria organism, and Rick Dove, a news river keeper in North Carolina.
		They have been trying to do accurate fish counts in the rivers and estuaries of not only dead fish, but those alive and with bleeding open sores that indicate the presence of the fisteria dinoflagellate.
		North Carolina's state government has no program to study the fisteria fish kills or to make accurate fish counts.
		So Dr. Burkholder and Rick Dove tracked what's happened to fish in specific noose river areas.
		What they have discovered is a nearly 100% absence of young man-hayden fish.
		Here is News Riverkeeper Rick Dove.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somewhere.
		Well, we're not getting it, so there may be a problem with the recording.
		Linda, are you there?
unidentified		I think Linda thinks that we're hearing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But of course we're getting absolutely nothing.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		All right, I don't know what has happened.
		I don't know why.
		It worked fine, and it should be going through here.
		I do not know what is wrong here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Usually something is plugged in either to the wrong place or not plugged in.
		That's one thing to immediately check for.
		And then if not.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I do this so often.
unidentified		Just a second.
		Wendy did that this spring, and this is the summer because we knew the state was not going to do that.
		And they would have missed all of these fish that are dying out there so far.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And so the Manhattan are dying off successfully day by day, week by week, but they're just not piling up on the banks.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And you've now lost all what appears to be all or most of the young population.
unidentified		That's correct.
		Let me tell you how significant the drop is.
		First of all, I'm not seeing any juveniles.
		And that doesn't mean they're not out there.
		I just can't find them.
		And I'm looking where they should be.
		But the other thing is, in the middle of July, I was throwing a cast net into the water, and 100%, 100% of the juveniles in the shallows were showing sores.
		Fatal sores.
		Wow.
		In the deeper water, it was a smaller percent.
		And not all schools had 100%.
		Some of the schools were as low as 8%, depending upon where I was.
		But in the areas where we know fisheria to be very active, like between Otter Creek and Slocum Creek on the news, I'll shore, those fish were showing a very high percentage of sores.
		And now you can't find any of them?
		No, I can't find them.
		And the bigger Minhaden are showing sores, but only, I'd say the other day when I went out, it was less than half a percent that had sores.
		But I could see, fatal sores, but I could see the beginnings of problems on a lot of those fish which I could not count as a fatal sores.
		So I think that Cisteria is still out there.
		It's still attacking, and there's a chance it's going to get a lot worse.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Sorry for that connection problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We got the essence of it.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and what it is, is that they have almost 100% absence of the young fish.
		And Dr. Burkholder had told me earlier this summer that she was concerned also about a deterioration in the quality and the immune systems in these fish.
		And if the young fish have been dying out in greater and greater numbers, this may or may not relate to a kind of slow evolving death that they're seeing this summer as opposed to a billion suddenly piling up all at once.
		And these are things they're trying to study and figure out, but they've got bleeding sores on a lot of the large fish now as well as the absence of the young fish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But Linda, if the young fish are simply gone, and if they're dead and they were barely missed, it's like saying all our children on earth suddenly are gone.
unidentified		I know.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		It really is a kind of one of those problems that you stand back and you say, what in the world is going on here and what are the implications for the fish populations in each ensuing year?
		Maryland, I know, has had even some of its much larger fish affected this year in very, very large numbers.
		And as each year goes by, will the fish be able to replenish or are we heading towards greater and greater declines in species that have fed these rivers for centuries?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's not just fish, but crabs too, right?
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Crabs and shrimp and just about anything that's in the water that is where the fisteria is.
		And then the big question, will it switch over into this massive toxic situation in which the air, the water, everything becomes contaminated and everything in it gets basically eaten up and killed.
		Now, that is what they have been waiting to see if it would happen in that massive kill this summer.
		And so far, we're only in the middle of August.
		It could happen in September or October.
		But they are concerned about this, what appears to be decimation of the young fish.
		Now, fish kills and water pollution are making headlines beyond North Carolina and Maryland.
		A couple of weeks ago, I reported about fish kills of beautiful tropical fish off the coast of Pompano Beach, Florida, where sewage is piped out to the reefs.
		And recently, the Environmental Protection Agency announced that residents in 47 states are being warned not to eat certain types of freshwater fish as states find pollution in more lakes and rivers.
		These fish consumption warnings are increasing each year.
		And right now, 15% of United States lakes, including all of the Great Lakes in Michigan, Minnesota, and Illinois, are included in the EPA advisory.
		The contaminants in the lakes and rivers include mercury, TCBs, chloridine, dioxin, and DDT.
		Now it has been made public that after the bridge collapsed July 14th during the opening of an international sports festival in Ramat Don, Israel, the three Australian athletes who fell in the river and died suffered from, quote, immediate and severe lung inflammation, unquote, according to the coroner's report.
		And that was from contact with toxins that they swallowed in the awful-smelling waters of the Yarkon River, which is full of industrial waste, pesticides, and partly treated sewage.
		The director of Israel's National Coroner's Office, Yehuda Hiss, said the severe lung damage in the three Australian victims was not like anything that he had ever seen before, quote, their lungs had extensive injuries, not only from the water, but from chemicals in the water, which were then distributed to the bloodstream, unquote.
		Official signs posted along Israel's Yarkon River warn that fishing, swimming, and boating are prohibited.
		But residents remember in the 1940s how clean the water was for swimming and recreation.
		Since the 1950s, the river has absorbed poorly treated waste from sewage plants.
		Sadly, the Yarkon is not the most polluted river in Israel either.
		According to Dror Abazar, chief hydrologist for the Israel Union for Environmental Defense, quote, almost every major river inside Israel is polluted.
		It's terrifying, unquote.
		From rivers and lakes to oceans, the headlines keep coming that human industry and pollution are threatening life in the waters all around us and ultimately threatening human life if the deadly cycle is not stopped.
		The cover story on the August 11, 1997 issue of Time magazine is, quote, sharks, we're killing them and lots of other fish much faster than they can reproduce.
		Are they doomed to extinction?
		Unquote.
		Fishermen are now killing between 30 million and 100 million sharks each year, sometimes just to cut off the fins for soup and tossing the bleeding bodies back into the oceans to die.
		According to Time magazine, quote, to date, only four countries, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, have implemented any sort of shark management plan, and only a handful have enacted laws protecting especially vulnerable species, unquote.
		The article also says that overfishing is not the only human activity that is jeopardizing life in the ocean.
		Just like everything else along the coast of the United States that I've been talking about, coastal pollution and habitat destruction, filling in wetlands and building dams are contributing to the crisis.
		Experts now warn that commercial extinction of shark and fish species could escalate into, quote, biological catastrophe, unquote.
		For example, in the western Atlantic, the breeding population of northern bluefin tuna is down to only 40,000 adults from more than a quarter of a million only 20 years ago.
		Half a dozen other fish ranging from beluga sturgeon, famous for its caviar, to the Pacific salmon and orange ruffy could actually disappear, be gone forever.
		Finally, on the world climate front, scientists are now tracking a tongue-shaped slug of warm tropical water that has moved east across the Pacific Ocean to South America, covering more than 6,000 miles now.
		It's El Niño, and it's huge.
		According to Stephen Zebiak, a climate modeler at Columbia University's Lamont-Dougherty Earth Observatory, temperatures at the sea surface have been rising so rapidly that they seem likely to equal those of the notorious El Niño of 1982 to 1983, which left 2,000 people dead and $13 billion in economic losses.
		Typical negative effects of El Niño are wild storms in the Northwest and California and droughts and fires in Australia.
		But there are positives as well.
		There could be fewer Atlantic Ocean hurricanes this fall, a mild winter in the Northeast, and less tornadoes in the Midwest.
		And on that note of hope part, I'm going to sign off tonight to get ready to leave for Tokyo, where I will be speaking and doing television production.
		So my report next Sunday will be live from Tokyo.
		And for listeners who may want to reach me on any of these environmental issues and any other unusual phenomena, my fax number is area code 215-491-9842.
		That's 215-491-9842.
		Or write me at Post Office Box 300 in Jameson, Pennsylvania, zip code 1-8929.
		And as Art, as we close out, this whole issue of what is happening to our Earth is a powerful challenge to all of us to try to get more facts and hopefully try to help.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I'll say, I'm getting some really incredible facts.
		There's an email, Linda, on the ocean temperature changes.
		The amount of temperature change is beginning to be very, very, very alarming.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Well, and you know, in addition to El Niño, which is coming across from the Pacific to South America, this fact that you sent me just a few minutes ago about temperatures in the Bering Sea have been recorded 10 degrees Fahrenheit hotter.
		I did a story earlier this spring on that very issue, that even the tree ring growth that they've been studying are indicating that signs of global warming are there.
		And accompanying all of this is a news story that mercury contamination is dropping down in one of the poles and affecting plankton and krill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Linda, we are flat out of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next week from Tokyo.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Linda Moulton Howe.
unidentified		the safe trip.
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		From the Kingdom of Nineveh, you're here in Greenland with Art Bell.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is the CBC Radio Network.
		Exactly what it is.
		Good evening, or good morning as the case may be.
		I'm Martell, coming in a moment.
		Daniel Brinkley.
		One of a kind, Daniel Brinkley.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now comes Danien Brinkley.
		And I have a few things to say about Daniel before he gets on the air.
		Personal comments.
		Danien and I have become personal friends.
		And there was a period of time not very long ago when I was going through a very extremely stressful time of my life, is the way I would put it.
unidentified		And a very interesting thing occurred.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel Brinkley started calling the house talking with my wife, who would not, without my knowledge, pass on to Daniel what was going on.
		But Daniel knew.
		Daniel knew.
		Intuitively and psychically and however it is he knows these things.
		He knew.
		This is no joke.
		And this is no hype to get you to believe that he is something he isn't because he is the real McCoy.
unidentified		Daniel Brinkley is the real McCoy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel Brinkley can do things that would put a chill up your spine.
		Daniel Brinkley can touch things and know the story behind them.
		Daniel Brinkley, from thousands of miles away, can understand when something is askew, something is wrong.
		Daniel Brinkley knows.
		How does he know these things?
		I don't know.
		But I do know he's the real McCoy.
		I'm telling you that from first-hand experience.
		And there are not many times that I can report to you on first-hand experience kind of things.
		He's written a lot of books at Peace and the Light.
		Daniel Brinkley died twice.
		Once when he was struck by lightning and once with massive heart failure.
		As a matter of fact, Daniel has just had some difficulties of his own in the last day or two.
		He is presently down near home in South Carolina, I think.
		So I think from South Carolina, here's Daniel Brinkley.
		Daniel?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Where are you, actually?
		You're in South Carolina, right?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm in Virginia Beach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Virginia Beach.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		No matter how bad that heart problem gets.
		And let me say this first.
		Thanks for saying those things about me.
		So remember, innate in all of us is the ability to perceive and understand the world around us in different dimensions because we are spiritual beings.
		And I learned it from having a near-death experience, like a lot of your listeners know.
		And I'd like to say this, too, that from all the letters from the last show, of all the people who wrote, I appreciate their comments about you and about me and what they say.
		And How encouraging it is to know that when we are just honest and you talk about what's really real and what happens in your life and people accept it from that place, then the world changes a little more.
		And I want to tell everybody who ordered my books, they're coming.
		I just didn't realize that many people loved you and me, Art.
		I just didn't realize it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a group of people out there right there.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		They're wonderful.
		And so I think that what I decided to do from our last conversation was with this Zahid Arwas in Egypt and Robert Breval, I decided to track them down and to see where and what the issues were and how to give a good report, like the lady who just spoke earlier, how to give a good report on my perception of being around these people in a group setting and seeing.
		And they just met at the ARE in Virginia, and it finished today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So Zahia Hawass was at this meeting.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Robert Baval and, I mean, let's see, Dr. Zahia Wass and Robert Baval.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was Graham Hancock there?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		A guy named Ahmed Siyad, who's three generations of working on the pyramids.
		Hartwig Hanzeldorf about pyramids in China.
		You know, we think that business in Egypt is something art.
		You should see China.
		They have a hundred of them a thousand feet tall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Beneath the sea, off the coast of China.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in the middle of the jungle.
		In South America.
		Yeah, I never realized.
		You know, it's amazing to me.
		I never realized this.
		And when I listen to these guys talk and I watch the engagement between Zach and Wash and between Robert and watch them talk on a personal level, you know, I perceive a lot of stuff that people don't really realize that I am perceiving about them.
		And there's some pretty wondrous and amazing things going on in this universe.
		And thanks to you and this show, people get to hear about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Zahi, I understand, was going to talk about that which we've been getting hints about and had photographs of and people talking about and you as well, the dig going on in Pyramid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did he have to say about that?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		He did a magnificent job.
		I mean, even the conversations between him and Robert Vall were very gracious toward each other, and he had photographs.
		Zahi gave a complete rundown in the last five years, and he showed photographs of what's going on in the five upper chambers and the stuff written on the walls and the things that were being discovered.
		And he stayed pure Egyptology, archaeology, but he kept a wide berth in this conversation about what was capable of being possible, of what's being found, even to when questioned about was there a second pyramid facing the other one because of the inscription in between the paws.
		And he said he did not know, but he was searching for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to help me out there.
		I didn't.
		What are you talking about?
		A second pyramid, where?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		There is a story by Ahmed, who is a guy who has three generations of people who have worked on the plateau.
		His great-grandfather was the person who had discovered the entrance in the rear of the Sphinx in 1920s, in the 20s, when the French were there.
		And he was the one who helped the Egyptologists discover it, rediscover it.
		And, you know, when you have that dust in your nose every day for three generations on the Giza Plateau, you know a lot more about it.
		And part of the old ancient stories that came down from his grandfather was that there was once a pyramid that faced the opposite direction.
		And that this is a legend that they have, which is drawn out on the symbols in between the pyramids.
		And Zahi did not run from it, but he did not embrace it.
		And it was pretty intriguing when they asked him.
		And he says, well, I'm not sure, but we'll look into this.
		And what he came across to me as Art, when you know when you were a kid and you're really excited about something, he was excited as a man holding his own, speaking very, very well and answering everyone's questions as each one asked them.
		But the excitement of what he was discovering on this plateau each day, and he made it very obvious that a horse, a woman riding on a horse, stepped in a trench and discovered this whole new area that they've discovered about where the people who helped, they say, build the pyramids lived and worked.
		But he gave ground, and he left it open to exploration, but his main concern that came across was preservation.
		And a lot of his lecture was, you know, he said a lot of things that were happening were having to be slowed down or stopped because of the damage done to the pyramids.
		And he had slides, and he was showing the salt content of the perspiration, of where people come in.
		He had photographs of the graffiti.
		I mean, some of this stuff is 4,000 years old, graffiti 4,000 years old.
		And it had some of the other writings of people who had ventured into some of the chambers.
		But the dust and the rock, and this guy that we talked about before, he was open and honest about it.
		What came across was even when he and Robert Baval got into an exchange, it was a courteous exchange, and both opened doors.
		And I think that that was the most important, it was really important, and that Dr. Rawaz took every question.
		He had his slide presentation, he was an Egyptologist, and he stayed to the course of being an Egyptologist, anthropologist.
		But he never crossed over to say that the possibilities of some of the things that people had talked about, proposals that were being submitted, did not have really honest and really good science as a possibility.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you mentioned his excitement like a child, and I understand that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you get the sense that although he did a straight-on presentation, he knows more than he spoke of?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I would say he knows a lot more than he speaks of.
		And in a wondrous kind of way, though, Art.
		In a wondrous kind of way.
		A lot of times, how do you deal with the things that are happening so fast and discovering in the true history of Egypt and then other places being excavated that he made mention to and yet did not have reports on it because it's outside of his jurisdiction, but other reports to it.
		And even as he was talking about the exciting things of Egypt unfoldment, he doesn't open the door.
		He was not, the way in it everybody seems to appear that he comes across in this group, he did not come across like that.
		He came across supportive of people researching and helping understand.
		He talks about not being able to understand the lost civilization.
		How did they lose the entire civilization from the 26th dynasty?
		But what was really interesting about it was when he was talking, he began to describe how tombs from the 26th dynasty could be rebuilt and redone from the 4th dynasty.
		And there seemed to be a place in there to open up for the possibilities.
		He went so far, Art, as to say that in this guy who did the robot thing to the wall to open this shaft, the air shaft, he went so far as to say that he was not hiding anything.
		And that he had gone to the director of tourism and he had opened and spoken with him honestly about to open that up, to show that on a worldwide show.
		Say, hey, let's just look at this together and try to settle these issues so that we can get back to preservation, people focusing on what this mystery is all about and how to find whatever is here in a very orderly fashion, dealing with really preservation of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here's a question for you that only you can really answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is, if Zahi should stumble into something, Daniel, that has implications or would be important for the whole world, and we all know that something like that may lie within some chamber, some buried something somewhere in the pyramid.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		They are.
		We know it's there.
		I don't know exactly where.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, my question is, if he stumbled into it, Daniel, what do you think Zahi would do?
unidentified		Would it be announced to the world, or would it be hidden from the world?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I would say it's not completely in his hands.
		He stays within the context of the system that he described, that he works in, the director of antiquities and the 24-member group, and just how he described what happened to the German guy who went outside of the recognized system of releasing information, and they closed him off from ever being on the plateau.
		I think if it's left to that system, we should be suspect.
		Only because it's people protecting their entire culture and their history and maybe some other issues involved in it.
		But I think if it was just that he was, the honesty and the integrity would have to win out.
		The honesty and the integrity would have to win out.
		It would have to win out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But right now, if it were discovered right now with the present system, within that system, it would not reach us.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		It would be suspect.
		But, you know, that's why I came on here to talk about it.
		We have the same problem with our own government killing everything that we have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we do.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		We have the same problem.
		It is the responsibility of we, the spiritually-minded, conscious people, to put our focus in our written words, in our voice, in our heart, and to drive toward that kind of openness.
		But not, I love the combativeness that went on.
unidentified		You know, I'd drive on a good fight.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		You know, I have one with my dealing with the hospice and HMOs and that business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Daniel, it's a little bit like the way the press ought to be with regard to the government.
		In other words, there should be always a contentiousness there.
		The press should always be looking into what our government and our officials do.
		That's what they're there for.
		They're a check on an otherwise out-of-control system.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so there should be contentiousness with regard to what's going on in Egypt.
		People continuing to ask questions and press, and it's going to result, you know, in a lot of angry words occasionally flying back and forth.
		But I think it's got to be there, or when whatever it is that we all know is there is discovered, we won't know.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		I'm not, you know, I came into this as an outsider.
		And what I care about Egypt, and now it's because I happen to love the people.
		And I'm not a person who really cares who built the pyramids.
		I'm just not that person.
		I'm amazed by the fact that they were built at all, and that someone would create such an elaborate search to support that there is a life after death is what has so intrigued me about it.
		I didn't get really involved in the pyramid aspect except from the way that the afterlife in ancient and mystical teachings of Egypt until I ran across the Casey readings, where Casey said that this chamber, what really got me interested in that,
		because when I first came after the near-death experience, you know, struck by lightning, completely dead for 28 minutes, completely paralyzed for six months, and partially paralyzed for seven months, I mean, completely paralyzed for six days and partially paralyzed for seven months, two years to learn to walk and feed myself, and never believe in one word of this crap.
		If you couldn't shoot it, or if you couldn't figure out how to blow it up, it wasn't important to me anyway.
		And then we come into this requiem where I see a story of like Edgar Casey and the ARE people, and I look at what coincides with this hall of records to be undiscovered in the next couple of years is that Casey also said it recognizes the return of the Christ consciousness.
		Now, for a fundamentalist Christian that is sleeping in a trance who never knew a single word he ever said, and when he got up, he had so accurately predicted through the years so many things, and he's missed some.
		I'm paying attention to the return of the Christ consciousness.
		I don't care.
		I guess I do care that there is a hall of records or a system of records that supposedly dates our entire existence that makes all of history rubbish, which in the course of my life, since I've been a part of history in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and now into the 90s, I know how much of that stuff that we're told is not true, much of what's revealed on this show.
		But when you look at it, if this is the time of the Christ consciousness and the value and the rapid unfoldment and discovery in China, in the Yucatan, and in Egypt, which is the easiest one to walk up on, sure, that we could be the most focused on, I believe that we live in the most exciting times.
		And I wanted to report to the people, and I wanted when I find things out that I'm there, I want to be able to report to the people like this lady just did, to report to Art Bell's people when I see from my heart looking at it and talking to the people and touching them and being right there on the spot.
		Because I would ask Dr. Hawass, I said, look, can I come and look where I'd like to look within reason?
		You know, I'm not a scientist.
		I'm just a guy who comes there who's been for 20 years coming there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you respond?
unidentified		He said, sure.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		He will let me come and look.
		So when people have all these stories, and I'll tell you something else, Art.
		I had never heard Robert Levant.
		And that is some pretty persuasive argument.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		That is straight-down, factual, persuasive argument.
		And I listened to it, and I was amazed at, because I'm not a UFO person or any person like that.
		I deal with dying.
		My whole life is the quality of the final days of people who are in this world, but mostly Americans and veterans.
		And the quality of theirs, and my mom and dad, and brothers and sisters, which is everybody, but my whole mindset stays there.
		But I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate how much being a friend of yours has helped open up my mind to look at so many wondrous events, just like this conference.
		This conference was amazing for me.
		This guy named Piatro, no, Vincent Piatro.
unidentified		Yes.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		This is a guy who's worked 20 years looking at imaging equipment for satellites.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And he is an unassuming, wondrous guy, like a normal nerd kind of person.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I met him and I talked to him who takes pictures and who studied pictures of pyramids on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		Hold tight, Danion.
		We're at the top of the hour.
		We'll be right back.
		My guest is Daniel Brinkley.
		It's going to be a very, very interesting evening.
		Strap down, stay foot.
		We'll be right back.
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		Arrhythmia.
		It is a medical term meaning abnormal heart rhythm.
		While any irregular heartbeat should be examined, Dr. Michael Domansky of the Clinical Trials Group at the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute says a skipped beat or a flutter does not necessarily mean a serious arrhythmia.
		There are some that are very benign.
		They're not a problem or a significant problem.
		Many people also develop other problems with the wiring system their heart that goes with aging.
		Arrhythmias can be caused by heart disease, but many times they occur in people who don't have heart disease.
		Arrhythmias can be caused by stress, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and fatigue.
		Dr. Domansky says it's a good idea for people who feel an irregularity of the heartbeat to see a physician for evaluation.
		It often turns out to be something that doesn't even need treatment, but it may, and if it does, then it's important for it to be picked up early.
		For the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, I'm Doris McMillan.
		The Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute USA Radio Network News, this is Russ Ross, but still no word on an agreement from the contract talks between UPS and Teamsters in Washington.
		They have been at it since last Thursday night, and with a few breaks here or there, the marathon talks could well result in an agreement.
		The strike is now two weeks old, and the U.S. Postal Service is making Sunday pickups to take up the slack.
		Station manager Rick Carty in New York says his troops grin and bear.
		This is what it reminds us of, Christmas in August.
		We're doing well.
		Our employees have just rolled up this raise and done whatever we need to do.
		A wildfire in San Bernardino County, California is close to being contained.
		1,700 firefighters are battling that blaze, and spokeswoman Julie Richter says the nearby town of Wrightwood is safe.
		We're at 51% containment.
		We have a strong perimeter around the entire fire.
		It's still down in the San Gabriel Canyon.
		It's burned about 10,000 acres plus.
		And we also have a strong fire break along the ridge that's protecting Wrightwood.
		Meanwhile, on the East Coast, a different problem facing folks up in Massachusetts: coyotes.
		And there's word there that several dozen cats have been killed in just over a month.
		They love cats, you know, they love to feed on them.
		Cats and small dogs.
		Yeah, we got one town here, I forget which town it was, but they had like 45 cats missing.
		And they, you know, they proved those coyotes, you know?
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		It was totally safe.
		Give me a break.
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unidentified		New York City Police Chief Howard Safer says he believes up to five officers could have been involved in last week's arrest and gruesome beating of an Haitian immigrant who remains hospitalized in critical condition.
		New York's Mayor Rudolph Giuliani says the one officer who blew the whistle on the incident deserves praise.
		Nobody's the first one that steps over the line, though, that is entitled to the greatest credit.
		And I think this police officer is entitled to a lot of praise.
		But a group of black officers disagrees, and their spokesman, Michael Grays, called the mayor's comments irresponsible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This officer's not a hero.
unidentified		He saw the law being broke and yet allowed a week to pass.
		And now, maybe to save his own job, he's coming forward before somebody tells on him.
		That's unacceptable.
		In Washington, the chairman of the NCSB, Jim Hall, says he is disappointed that the nation's airlines have not installed smoke alarms and sprinklers and cargo holds in the aftermath of the ValueJet crash last year.
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		The Fed's Oak Market Committee meets again this week.
		Most analysts believe they'll again leave interest rates alone.
		We get more from USA's John Decker.
		Analysts say attempts to cool off the economy by raising the cost of money may not only be unwarranted, but outright dangerous, since financial markets are already on edge.
		The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 247 points on Friday.
		Analysts almost unilaterally say rates will remain steady until at least later in the year when growth is expected to pick up steam.
		The central bank lasts change interest rates on March 25th.
		John Decker, USA Radio News, Washington.
		Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman says he's sending a special SWAT team of investigators to Hudson Foods Incorporated in Columbus, Nebraska in an effort to help find the source of E. coli bacteria in the company's frozen ground beef.
		Over 1 million pounds of the hamburger had to be recalled just last week.
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		From the Kingdom of Nye, we continue with your calls on Dreamland with Art Bell.
		Call ART now toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
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		Now again, here's Art Back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes indeed.
		Once again, here I am.
		Our guest this evening on Dreamland is Danion Brinkley.
		We will get back to Daniel in a moment.
		The UPS strike continues, talks continue, and my advice to all parties involved is you had better settle it quickly.
		For the sake of the country, for the sake of small business, you had better settle quickly.
		And if you need fuel to understand why, let me tell you.
		The Seacrane Company used primarily UPS as its shipper.
		The Seacrane Company has now made arrangements to ship via the U.S. Postal Service, and they can guarantee to almost all of their customers faster delivery than they had with UPS.
		That is not to say they may not return to UPS when all of this is over, but they may not.
		That will go for many, many, many, many companies.
		So before there's nothing left to argue about, I would suggest to the negotiators and to the company UPS, they get it together and settle this for both their sakes.
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unidentified		Very bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are going to be big storms.
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		And my advice to the parties involved in the UPS conflict is sincere.
		North American Trading is doing a remarkable thing for a very short amount of time.
		They are offering the St. Gaudens Double Eagle a gold coin with just about one ounce of pure gold in it at their cost.
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		And by the way, I would do it soon.
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		All right, back now to Daniel Brinkley in Virginia Beach.
		That's South Carolina?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Or Virginia Beach, Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're still in Virginia.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just got finished with the programming because I'm having that, you know, that little heart problems, that pressure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to ask you about a couple of physical things, Daniel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One, when you were here, before we get on to what's going on right now, when you were here with me, I noticed you don't have any hair on your arms and stuff.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it comes from being struck by lightning twice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do the doctors have any idea why it would be that your hair would just simply go away and not come back?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, let me tell you something even better than that, Art.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Listen, let me finish with what I saw today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		What I saw today is a beginning of a dialogue that I think will have several more great encounters.
		But I can trust Zahi Hawas, and I can, and I know this.
		But I can also trust what Robert Baval, what these other people are seeing.
		I mean, I'm very comfortable with being able to sit and talk to all these people involved in this and to bring it down to a place where either I can look or see to it that you can look so that there is a very even course set in the spiritual awakening that comes to all of us as they discover these ancient artifacts from here to China.
		I wonder what happens if you dig into one Into China.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Daniel, one thing comes to mind, though.
		If you go over there and look, or I go over there and look, even if we are given what we believe to be a free hand by Zahi, and by the way, I'm going to be there October 4th.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		October 4th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But even if both of us are given a free hand, Daniel, we might not know where to look.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, true.
		But I mean, within the existing framework of what people are saying, I mean, I'm with you on this art.
		I'm young at this, but I'm willing, because of just the things that I talked about, that I will stay in the middle of it, and I will listen to all sides, and I will work continuously in every manner that I can, because you only got me interested in this.
		But I've met the people, I've talked to them, I've set a dialogue.
		So when something comes up that comes from a listener or people that you work with or people that you talk to, I will be there, and I will give an honest, the best way that I can look at it, and usually it's from a hands-on or personal rapport with the person.
		And I just wanted to be able to give that because I came here to do that.
		Now, let me tell you some really cool stuff about my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		In the course of going through two near-death experiences, and like I wrote in at Peace in the Light, which there are no more saved by the lights hardback left in the world, you guys bought them all.
		There are still at Peace in the Light.
		I have some of those, so if people want one, you can write me and send me that money and I will send it to you.
		But as I've looked through medicine and alternatives and compatible medicines in the last 22 years, it's just something I never believed in before.
		And because I'm still alive regardless of what I go through, because of a lot of good doctors, I have a couple of really good doctors, but from a lot of alternative and compatible therapies, it's led me into this search to understand the mystical spiritual way about us and what the energy bodies that I saw both when I was floating above myself in the outer body experience and from talking to so many people who are in the fields of Qigong.
		And I came across this whole dimension called lightning shamans, shamanistic tradition, the old arts of healing and inner understanding.
		And then one of these, which have a cultural history, called a lightning shaman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lightning shaman.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		A lightning shaman.
		So I started looking and finding, I wrote about it in that piece, it's the last chapter, which is where I've, you know, it's the next adventure in Daniel's saga, trying to find out who he is in the context of the spiritual, mental, because he knew who he was in the physical world.
		He thought he knew he was in the mental world, and he had no idea of who he was in the spiritual world.
		And I've learned, I'm like everyone else who's listening to me on this phone, we are great, powerful, and mighty spiritual beings, and we have a job to do here, and we've come to do it.
		So what's really gotten really wonderful for me is I've always tried to figure out how from this very left brain side of me that I could make the transition.
		And just recently, they've come up with a new form of medicine in the Office of Disease Prevention in the National Institutes for Health.
		In rare diseases and disorders, a person being struck by lightning has now become its own form and discipline of medicine.
		Because of the unique things that happens to a person who is struck by lightning as opposed to people who have other forms of electrical fusion or electrotransmission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good, we'll talk about that.
		But Daniel, answer my one question.
		Why will the hair not regrow on your body?
		Have they addressed that with you?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		They don't address things like that, Art.
		They don't.
		That's something that they address.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I interviewed, this is going to fall right in, Daniel.
		I interviewed somebody from a company called Pear Inc., which is a private company doing research on psychic ability and the ability of the human mind, for example, to influence a random number generator.
		Very, very interesting work.
		Came originally from Princeton.
		And they have begun to do EKG studies on people who are able to develop psychic or have psychic ability to determine where in the brain, and they're beginning to find out where in the brain there is activity when they're using this kind of ability.
		And I would think that it would be possible, Daniel, that your brain and the brain of anybody else struck by lightning could be activated in a way that other brains are not.
		I don't know.
		That's just a stab in the dark.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		When they create a new discipline of studying of medicine and make a rare disease out of it, I mean a rare disorder out of it, don't you think one of these guys must have read something about what happens to lightning shamans?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		The history of them are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is what?
unidentified		Is we become intuitive.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		We become healers.
		We have a certain amount of consciousness about us that begins to keep up an open spiritual consciousness or a cosmic consciousness.
		And in the traditional cultures that I found, like 15 of these cultures, and one of them is Peru, that the person, this is what's always drawn me, when we talk one time when I'd just come back from Machu Picchu, you kept wondering what went wrong with me because I wasn't screaming like I am now.
		But it was because the person who is supposed to have created the Inca dynasty, he was struck by lightning.
		And that's the history of the Inca people.
		And Machu Picchu, I have absolutely no doubt, the first time that I saw Machu Picchu, I knew inwardly, intuitively, before I heard the story, that this is someone who had been to the Crystal Cities and they built one.
		And when I heard that, when I went to the ruins and I realized that it was once blue and white plaster, this beautiful blue and white plaster of perfectly set, geometrically composed flag on the side of that mountain was his way of interpreting back in the world the crystal cities that I went to during the near-death experience where I went to the places of learning and I saw the visions and things like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think that shaman saw what you saw.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		And then I've, you see where I've become comfortable now.
		Now that it's become a rare disease, I mean a rare disorder, I know they know more.
		And so my whole new experience, what I'm going after now, is to find out about this.
		And I've been through our, you know, I've been around, one day I never believed a single word of this.
		You know, just a complete jackass.
		And I give you one second of my time in these kind of issues.
		And if I didn't slug you, I would ridicule you for at least two years.
		To a person that it happened to me.
		Like this lady, she was, like, people would ask me, and they said, well, I don't really think you have this ability.
		And, you know, I can do some pretty wild stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, you can.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And I said, you know, I worry a whole lot more of how it works than I worry about whether I have it.
		Because it came to me from when I came back from the near-death experience.
		And I'd been struck by lightning.
		And Raymond noticed this about the second time that I was struck.
		I mean, the second time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody won't know Raymond Moody.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Dr. Raymond Moody.
		And I never noticed this because I live with me all the time.
		But I was struck by lightning a second time, and then I had heart failure in 1989.
		And he says since 1989, the dimensions that it grows in is phenomenal from him remembering the early days of how I would struggle when I would perceive stuff to try to put it into a framework where now I have developed a framework to put it in.
		What I write about in that Peace in the Light, what this next book is about called If It's True, What Shall We Do, is how that through hospice work and being around close to people who are leaving this world, how you develop that sense of knowing yourself.
		Spirituality is being developed in so many new disciplines, like I just read that in the Association of Nurses, that they're creating a whole new teaching modality about spirituality.
		And I watch in the work that the people that I do and the people I work with, they are becoming intuitive and not having to be struck by lightning.
		So I know that what happened to me is either, since we're electrical, chemical, it overloaded my systems because I was fried.
		And then also that I think that once a person realizes that you don't die, you know, like today, this lady asked me, she says, well, what is your interest in this?
		And she wanted me to take sides in all of it.
		Whereas I'm open and I said, look, lady, when you know you don't die, and a second issue, especially the issue for me, because I'm such a jerk, is that I'm not going to go to hell.
		The rest of life just becomes something very interesting to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Secondary.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it's not secondary, but it's interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's secondary to the fact that you don't die.
		Of course it is.
		Everything else of earth is secondary to that.
		I agree.
		once you know.
		And you say the title of your next book is going to be If it's true, that's a great book title.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		But you know why?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Listen, Art.
unidentified		I sit and get the input because people just talk to me.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And I listen to them and I listen to what goes on in their thoughts.
		And they don't realize they're perceiving a lot of the stuff about them as they talk to me.
		And I learn and feel and experience the anxieties and the issues that people not only are confronted in their life, but they have no methodology, no way to deal with it every day, because the people who are responsible for giving us that are liars.
		Like how the government operates and how health care operates and how just a denial of certain information keeps us from being able to make informed choices, which keeps us controlled.
		And I watch it in the world that I live in where the hospital HMO corporations for money who have said they were doing the best that they could do.
		They were suing doctors and cutting doctors' benefits if they paid somebody or took care of somebody one moment past a certain amount of money.
		That person died a horrible death.
		And so it brings it all the way down to that this is where the real fight is.
		It's in the environment.
		It's in looking at conspiriologies and unfoldment from now to the next millennium.
		But where it really is, is in our moms and our dads, our veterans, when the Department of Defense says that they never believed that the CIA created home models and 100,000, 14 guys died during Desert Storm and 100,000 have a disease that's killing them.
		And 14,000 people died since they came back.
		Another 100,000 have it.
		And not only that, their children are developing the symptoms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Now, when you have that, there's also a place where when you kill veterans and then you don't take care of them, you have pushed it to a point where this country is in our mental, physical, and spiritual selves, we better stop, we better shake it off, better take a head out of the sand, we better stand up.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Because as this world is evolving and the instabilities because of health and weather and because of climates and governments and the falls and the rise of Eastern cultures, we are in serious, serious trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Being in trouble, just a personal question, Daniel.
		Last few days, you've had some trouble.
		There are people who actually thought you had died.
		What happened?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, because of, you know, I have to take blood thinners because of the aortic valve that I had.
		I had to have a St. Jude's valve, and I have to take blood thinners, and you can't regulate the blood, and you can't have vitamin K. And if you do certain things, or it gets too hot, then your blood thickens, and then my valve will clog up, and then I have a heart failure.
		So I was not regulating, because you can't.
		I mean, it's just something that you do with every day.
		And then I have to worry about mutating staph and staph infection, which will kill me instantly.
		Then my blood is so thin because I have to take so much COVID that if I cut myself, I'll bleed to death in 45 minutes and just do little issues like this.
		And my blood got so thick, really fast, the valve begins to clog, and I begin to die.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you it came close again?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, that comes every year or so, or about every eight months I get something like that.
		This was really too close for comfort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When was that?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		That was Thursday.
unidentified		Thursday.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		But you know what, Art?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I'm not afraid of dying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I want to, I want to, if I'm going to die, I want to die fighting for something that I truly believe in.
		And because I have the opportunity to talk and get out there.
		There's so many of my brothers and sisters that's owned this, listen to this radio, that a lot of them are working really hard, have a family to raise, a life to look at, and the opportunity very limited to get to the places that I get to get to.
		And I want to be out there so I can say, hey, guys, this is like you are.
		This is what I see.
		This is how I see it.
		And this is what it's worth to me to be out here for you.
		Because if you've been through what I've been through, and you've, you know, just gone through it and you struggle with it, and you're here trying to help me.
unidentified		Play it there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're at the bottom of the hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
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		Good evening, everybody.
		I'm Mark Bell.
		My guest is Daniel Brinkley.
		As you know, I have a book called The Quickening.
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		Here, once again, is Daniel Brinkley.
		Daniel.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
		And what I was finishing was, before I get so carried away, but if I wasn't going through this, and as I go through it, it's like literally all that I'm going through is what everybody's going through with their parents and their brothers and their sisters and your children and trying to make the right decisions.
		Well, I'm not only living in that world, I'm not only a hospice volunteer.
		I go through the horrors on a daily and weekly basis of what a lot of people are really terrified.
		So I'm really settled in the death issues and of health care and the issues that we all have to face and we all have to deal with.
		And as I experience them, I guess the way that the spiritual side of things is designed for me to be is to live it all at one time so that as I go through it, I can understand where a person is in an intuitive sense.
		I'm notorious for it, is what I was thinking about earlier today, earlier this evening when you were talking to me.
		That you really didn't realize that I was the way I am about perceiving and being intuitive about things.
		And I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you know something, Daniel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You shook Me up.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		See, I didn't know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you did.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		But you see, when I'm around people that are my friends, then they see the person of how quickly I can touch it or look at it and perceive it and how I can know its history and how I begin to live as if I am it.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		In the early days, Art, it drove me crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you know, that was going to be my next question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it a blessing, a curse, or both?
unidentified		It's this.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		It's a blessing disguised as a curse.
		In the early days, I had no control whatsoever.
		When the ladies, when I was paralyzed and the nurses would come and hold me in this tub of water trying to find, you know, this whirlpool and stick these needles in me and stuff, they didn't realize that I could literally at the same time hear all of their thoughts.
		And it would be run in like overloading me.
		And I couldn't go to, I couldn't, once I could get out of the hospital, I couldn't go in a place because I would be picking up so much about the people around me.
		Now, as I've gotten better, which is healing, then I'm not as intuitive as I was then, and I'm so thankful for it.
		But for everybody out there listening who thinks that they are not intuitive, forget it.
		You are.
		And I just didn't realize that.
		Lord, I can teach people.
unidentified		I mean, it's nothing unique about Daniel Blinkley.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I find out that the way I came this way was just all of a sudden one day from being struck by lightning and then going through the fact that I know there's a world after this one.
		I know that there's an expansiveness of our spiritual selves that far supersedes anything in the physical concept.
		And I think that helped opens me up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel, I have a question for you.
		You said that at first, right after you were struck when you were recovering, it was so bad.
		You heard everything around you from everybody who was around you.
		And then it began to fade as a natural course of the events over the years.
		But you also began to learn to control it.
		How did you, can you describe how you're able to control it today?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of times, and I write about it in at Peace in the Line, I mean, I write about it.
		A lot of times, Art, I've chosen to take this art form, which is what I think intuitiveness is, and to focus it in dealing with closure with people leaving this world.
		That, you know, you find a place that you wanted to develop.
		At first, I, you know, just went wherever anybody went.
		But now, since I'm around the death process so much, that I took the talent and the art form, and I focus it so that the person leaving this world and the people staying, that I can pick up the anguish, anxieties, joys, frustrations, things that are going on with them so that they have closure.
		I teach it in the people who work in the program I call the CIA.
		I'm getting even with them.
		It's called Compassion in Action, and it's the Twilight Brigade.
		And people, it's an internet fight, and it's a loosely knit organization of people all over the country who use the techniques that I use in hospice work and in nursing homework that are having pretty wild results in the course of that.
		But they're really helping people find closure.
		And I want to give you that address, too, in case someone wants to get, you know, they want to be a part of it or later on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just tell me, though, is there a mental way for you to kind of turn it off?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you able to turn it off?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I can't do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can't see.
		That's what I was after.
		You really can't do it.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		No, I can't turn it off.
		But I can set a value.
		See, what we have to find out, and I think what would be used as what we would call morals, but to have a value, a quality of what you want to give back when you receive it, is the greatest mechanism I've learned so much to control it as well as develop it.
		And, you know, I study everything that I can find about it.
		I have absolutely no doubt that there's a life after death.
		I have absolutely no doubt that we are legendary spiritual beings.
		I have absolutely no doubt that we all have intuitive natures in us.
		Some vary in their degrees, but perception and communication between two beings is a natural part of our existence.
		And I learned it from watching the communication where I was floating above my body after being struck by lightning.
		I could see the energy fields around the two people, my wife and my best friend, as they interacted.
		I didn't have an energy field around me.
		And all the way into the ambience, I was aware of these energy fields around plants and around people.
		And I realized that what we don't see with our eyes still doesn't mean it's not there.
		And that we communicate with each other through these wavelengths of energy, that we surround each other in fields of energy.
		Like listening to the lady when she was giving her report when we first came on.
unidentified		You're talking about Linda Moltenhouse.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I know things about what she's sitting and looking at, what's on her mind.
unidentified		I know.
		I mean, I know you do.
		It's as easy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, I just, I can't help but wonder how much of a curse it remains.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		That drives you crazy, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I thought.
unidentified		That's what I thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to know things about people almost instantaneously.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in the range.
		You know, it's not like it's a range.
		I see details of stuff that I describe to people that I'm seeing.
		But I see whole natures of people that, you know, sometimes that's good and sometimes that's bad.
		But, you know, I live in this world and I play the hand I'm dealt.
		I'm not a person that lives in a wishful world.
		I wish for a better world for people who are struggling to understand how to make the decisions about their moms and dads and how to raise their children and how to find their own spiritual link in a world that is quickly shifting.
		And I would like to, without any question, recommend The Quickening to everyone who is listening.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		This is a terrific book to get a good look.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And when I read it, I looked at it and I realized that this is the opportunity that people can get this book and get a really good global perspective on what's going on in the future and how it will evolve.
		And that one thing why I guess we all love Art Bell so much is that you have gathered information from so many sources that when you put it in a book form like you did, it really helps people make decisions about what to do.
		So I highly recommend it.
		So what I stay in is if I'm going to be this way, and there's nothing that I can do about it, and I'm going to be in places where I can deal with the toughest issues that come about, I'm just not afraid, then I'm thankful for it.
		But if I had to live with this, and without having a spiritual place, a place to care and love and really know that I'm giving of my spiritual intuitive self to help people, then I really wonder about those people who have this art developed in them from children, like the Chinese stories and the things that I'm seeing, what we really have to worry about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the movie's phenomenon?
unidentified		Well, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Travolta.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reminded me of you.
unidentified		It came from, the story is art.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		It came from one of the early scripts of Saved by the Light.
		Because everybody, you change certain things, but it happened to me.
		I went through all of that.
		I still have notebooks of equations.
		I still have trunks of stuff that I wrote down, and I still don't know what the hell it means.
		You know, I'm not, you know, I'm not the Swami Rama.
		You know, I came into spiritual enfoldment answering the damn telephone.
		One day I never believed one single word of this crap, art.
		The next day, I was dead, and the day after that, I started becoming everything I despised and never believed in before.
		So mine has been a struggle with it.
		And to try to find a context, like people say it's a God-given right, and they have all these words.
		And most of the times when I run across those people who are supposedly psychic, they're frauds.
		And I can sense it in them.
		When a person is perceiving there is a form of energy that I detect in my sinus cavities that is detectable, like I can smell radar and turning televisions off and on, but I can pick it up.
		And it has a fragrance to it.
		And I teach people, when you do hospice work and you work with the CIA, Compassionate Action, this is the group, then we teach it and we talk about it and we have conversations about it.
		And a lot of nurses and a lot of people who are a part of this really realize that it's a natural part of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have another question for you before we leave movies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you yet seen Contact?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		It's been terrific.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Much like what happened in the near-death experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's where I was going, Daniel.
		The tunnel.
		Oh, yeah.
		The movement, the meeting with, in this case, her father, even though all of it was dynamic life review, even though all of it was revolving around E.T. contact, the parallels were unmistakable.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		All right, that you understand.
		Thanks to like, and I'm proud of my part, I'm a little proud.
		Like myself and Raymond and Betty Eady and Elizabeth and Melvin Morris and Paul Perry and some of the great pioneers.
		We have dragged the near-death experience in the mainstream America.
		I watch it interwoven in so many things and the story of me and a few other people that I see interwoven in it, that has created a way that we will never be able to be beaten back.
		They'll never say it, there can never go back to oxygen brain deprivation and temporal load seizures and all kinds of shock and stuff like that.
		We'll never go back.
		I'm really proud of all of us who stood our ground and created a way that you can explore your deep, mystical, spiritual traditions and ways without putting a religion in it, an institution in it, or a government in it.
		The near-death experience is a byproduct of cardiopulmonary resuscitation techniques, so they are guilty of giving us for us who come back.
		So it's like really caught the government and medicine in its own quagmire.
		But I'm really proud of all of us who stayed the course, and now it's mainstream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One last movie, an older one, Flatliners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know offhand, Danian, whether there is actually or whether there have been actually any experiments, in effect, duplicating what you went through and others have gone through?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, attempts to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Scientifically.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you hear about that stuff all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you wouldn't hear about it very publicly.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, but I hear about it because I'm a member of every part of every little group that deals with lightning and electrical transmission and death.
		You hear about research done in China and in Russia?
		because they want to They don't really give a damn how they develop them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		If they have to kill them, fine.
		If they want to electrocute them, fine.
		They're developing whole ways of a mental prowess.
		I have no doubt that the power that is capable in the mind for our watching amazed by it within me every day.
		And I know people like James von Prague and George Anderson.
		These are people who use that capability to cross from this veil to the other side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Interesting, you should mention James von Prague.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be interviewing him in the next few weeks.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		One of the best art.
		I've seen 30 of these so-called mediums.
		I believe in that nature of mediumship because it happens to me on occasion.
		I've had conversations where I'm listening to someone talk to me, and I couldn't figure out why no one else in the room was hearing the person talk.
		And it was at the celebration of a birthday, the 100th birthday Of a person who was a pretty famous person.
		And I started describing the conversation and the verbiage and what this person and how they put the inflection on the word.
		And simultaneously, three of the four kids says, that's dad.
		And I went on to, when they were talking, I went on to tell them exactly what he was saying.
		It was about singing a certain song in the summer when they went to Montreal and things that there was no way I could know.
		I didn't know any of this stuff.
		It's the personal family reunion stuff.
		And he wanted to hear them sing the song.
		So I know that that's possible.
		And, you know, I've saw some murders because I either become the perpetrator or I become the victim.
		And I've done this work.
		And I've seen James and George, and I've seen maybe two others out of 30 that are real.
		And I watch them close, and I know them personally.
		And it's just one more step in us unfolding in the deep spiritual nature and to realize that there is a life that exists after this one.
		And it is over there and it's here and it exists.
		And it has multi-levels and dimensions to it.
		And it's as exciting or ten times more exciting than this life, depending on how you look at it.
		And I'm trying in my way to support these people.
		George Anderson did a painting of what he, because he communicates through Christ, he says.
		He did this painting.
		He had this commission, this painting.
unidentified		And I sat with George and I said, George, what in the world is all this?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And he told me what it was that he had done and how he had done this.
		And he did it so that people could raise money for a foundation to deal with helping parents who've lost their children.
		And for grief for them and develop programs, that's how he came to me and asked me to help in working with that.
		James is really good at art.
unidentified		I mean, he's good, and he's helped so many people deal with this.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's my mission.
		I mean, I want to study.
		I like the pyramids, and I'm going to study shamanism.
		But if I can help people deal with empowering themselves to control and be in control of their health, and to know that they're making the right decision with their moms and dads and children, in how you deal with the final days, how you prepare for those, and how you go forward after that, and in the course of it, to have developed an intuitive perspective.
		I think if you're going to lose somebody, someplace is going to gain them.
		And that place is going to gain them this spiritual realm, which I have seen.
		And if I have to lose my mom or my dad or my brothers or my sister or my friends to at some place, I'm comfortable with it being there.
		But I might as well benefit as much as I can so that I can go on living in a strong, courageous, loving way as this world unfolds and we prepare for a millennium.
		You know, it is amazing that in two years from now, three years from now, we who are here at this particular time and juncture in this world are preparing for a millennium.
unidentified		Not the end of time, but the beginning of one.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And our thoughts and what we do and how we control the next legislative process from now to the next presidential election, which happens to be a leap year, which happens to be a millennium.
		How we mark that millennium is the true mark of our spiritual place on this earth.
		Remember, I always tell people, when you leave this world, when you leave it, you'll have a panoramic life with you.
		You will literally see and feel everything you've ever done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Daniel, we're coming up on the top of the hour.
		Do you think you'll be here for the millennium?
		Oh, yes.
		Do you have knowledge?
		Have you ever seen how long you're going to be here?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		I won't miss it three weeks with our, I mean, my window of opportunity to get out of here.
		And I promise you this, son, I will be taking it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Daniel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Rest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back after the top of the hour.
		My guest is Daniel Brinkley.
		And when we get back, I'm going to remind myself to tell you how you can get his book at Peace in the Light.
		I'm Art Bell and this is Dreamland.
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		United Parcel Service Chairman Jim Kelly appeared on CBS, Face the Nation, and said while he's optimistic, firing the workers may be an option.
		The last thing I want to do is replace UPS workers.
		We want UPS workers back on the job.
		And if they had the right to vote, they'd be back on the job today.
		Unfortunately, that's being denied.
		As we go further and further down the road, we'll have to consider all options, but it certainly isn't something that I want to do.
		Also in the program, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, he believes the labor movement is succeeding.
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		Those talks between UPS and Teamsters have been steady since Thursday night, with the exception of a few hours of shutter.
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	From the Kingdom of Nye, we continue with your calls on Dreamland with Art Bell.
	Call Art now toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
	1-800-618-TALK.
	First time callers, area code 702-727-1222.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		702-727-1222.
unidentified		Or the wildcard line at Area Code 702-727-1295.
		727-1295 in the 702 area.
		Bell again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's Art Bell.
		Once again, here I am, top of the evening or the morning.
		It could be either.
		Great to have you along, Dan and Brinkley is my guest, and we'll get back to him in a moment.
		I'm shortly, in about a week, about a week from now, going to Alaska, and then late in October to Egypt and Israel.
		And I'll be all over the place, Greece.
		I'll be in Rome, Pompeii, and of course up on Giza Pyramids.
		And I'm going to take with me several devices.
		One of them, you know me in electronics, is going to be the Magellan 2000.
		It is a remarkable device.
		There are 37 satellites out there called polar orbiters.
		A constellation of satellites, actually.
		And they all report to this little electronic device about the size of a big pack of cigarettes.
		You know, the 120, it's about that size, a little bit bigger.
		Handheld.
		And when you turn it on, it begins acquiring satellites.
unidentified		Boom, boom, boom, boom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You will see the acquisition of the satellites.
		And when it has enough satellites, it will suddenly give you a readout of degrees, minutes, and seconds, and tell you precisely within a few feet exactly where you are on the face of the globe.
		You can do it in Alaska, Egypt, or the jungles of South America or your living room.
unidentified		It's incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll tell you how far above sea level you are.
unidentified		It'll tell you how quick, how fast you're moving, even if you're walking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's an odometer.
		It's a million things in one.
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		And if you want one, we have a very limited supply.
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		Again, I send out word to my friends at UPS and the Union, better get it settled.
		People are beginning to find other ways to do what they need to do.
		Settle your strike.
		So Bob Crane can get it to you quickly.
		Call him at 7.30 in the morning and get a Magellan 2000 on the way.
		The number is 1-800-522-8863.
		1-800-522-8863.
		Let me tell you about GMX one more time.
		I'll give you my prime example.
		I have a terrible back.
		I fell off a pole once and impacted my butt and my elbow, and it impacted, you know, L4 and L5, and it's been bad ever since.
		As a matter of fact, actually, I have that accident.
		Thank for getting back into radio.
		Because I just can't do the kind of climbing I used to do.
		At any rate, I thought, well, when I get a little money, one thing I will buy is a hot tub therapy from my back.
		I installed it, put water in it, went out the next day, looked at it, and I was horrified.
		Even though I had this wonderful composite material all around my hot tub, here was this deposit of whatever you want to call it, scale, calcium, alkali, gunk, minerals, right at the water line where it touched the composite material.
		I mean, it was really thick, and I thought, oh, no.
		And I called GMX, since I already had it in my home.
		They sent me an emergency shipment of magnetic arrays, which I then clamped around the output side of the water pump to the hot tub and went out 24 hours later, and it was all gone.
		Gone.
		Dissolved.
		That's what GMX does.
		It affects minerals in a way that will not allow them to stick to anything.
		So effectively, now you have conditioned water without any of the headaches of the normal ways of doing it.
		It comes with a 90-day money-back guarantee, so it doesn't do what I say.
		You get your money back.
		Period, the number to call is 1-800-406-0469.
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		All right, back now to Daniel Brinkley.
		We are going to begin taking calls for Daniel here in a moment.
		So I want to remind everybody east of the Rockies if you want to get in.
		The number is 1-800-825-5033.
		Daniel, this will mean something to you, I guess.
		Tell Daniel, his current hospice patient, or one of them, Indy, is sitting up, eating well.
		That's wonderful.
		Tell Daniel to get some rest as in Friday.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		That's wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there you are.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		That's the guy who I've been with for six years.
		Broken neck, blew up in a building, burnt his skin off, broke his neck, and he's paralyzed.
		And yet he struggles and he helps me.
		He opens letters from Art Bell and he helps me send the books out.
		And he went through a tough time.
		He's in failure.
		I mean, you know, we talk about leaving this world and the joy of it.
		And he finds hope in building and looking and helping me with what I'm doing.
		And he went from, they gave him up to we brought him home.
		And my friends that are around town, he's in Aiken, South Carolina.
		We go over and we work shifts.
		We spent two weeks ago I spent two 24-hour shifts with him because he's really sick.
		But he's stuffing books in envelopes and addressing the outside so that everybody gets their books.
		So he was really sick when I left him and I wasn't sure if he would get through it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I talked to you earlier in the weekend when you thought Dreamland might have been on Saturday.
		You were kind of in a confused state.
		You've been up too long and something had just happened to you.
		So you needed to get some rest.
		And I've observed this in you and I'm not even psychic.
		You drive yourself until you're ready to drop and then you drop for a while and then you're okay again.
		Why do you do that?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I watch it come very fast.
		One thing about writing those books, I'm still the person.
		I'm just Daniel Brankley.
		And I see something happening like in health care.
		And I see people, veterans, dying by themselves in the most horrendous kinds of ways and no one caring about them.
		And I see Steve, Indy, this friend of mine, and I see so many people all over the country that my life is, I'm a soldier myself.
		And my life is only as valuable as their lives, as if it was combat, because they're fighting to find their spiritual self as they get ready and they've served this country to make a transition to this next world.
		And I owe it to them.
		It is the value of my life as a soldier.
		It's the value of my life as an American.
		It's the value of my life as a person who had a near-death experience.
		And I don't just focus on soldiers and veterans.
		I mean, I care about everybody, but I have a special place in that.
		And what pushes me, you know, Art, people tell me that I've got to take better care of myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm one of them.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I listen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I watch you.
		I watch you go until you're ready to drop, and it's going to get you one of these times.
		And you're supposed to be around for a while to do something, so you have a responsibility to yourself as well as others.
unidentified		Well, I have outlived all the rest of them.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I'm still here.
		20 years ago, they gave me up.
		They gave me six months to live.
		I listened to that for 10 years.
		Then I got struck by lightning.
		Then I had heart failure from complications from it.
		They gave me about nine months to live.
		And here it is eight years later.
		I live in some pretty horrendous things, okay?
		But you play the hand, you're dealt.
		But if I'm going to have a value of my life, I'm going to have a value of just a guy who had two near-death experiences that is not, I'm not fearless or a hero, and I see the change in health care, and I'm watching it formulate itself now.
		And the value of my life is protecting not only the veterans, but protecting the quality of life of my family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then there's value in your continuing your life for as long as you can.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		That's why I stayed in Virginia Beach tonight instead of going to South Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, see, that's what confused me, because you said I'll be in South Carolina when I talked to you on Saturday, and obviously you decided better not do that.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I'll start if I could dodge the doctor better up here so he doesn't put me in cardiac intensive care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, stay there and rest until you know you're right.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, anyway, look, here's some phone calls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to take some phone calls.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		But I want to make sure that I give people the information about where they can find out about things that I'm doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You will.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I'm just supposed to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll get it on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on air with Daniel Brinkley.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I'm Janice from Tacoma.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Janice, you're going to get into that phone and speak up to you.
unidentified		Okay.
		Hi, I'm Jenna from Tacoma.
		Hi, Janice.
		Hi, Dan.
		I have been trying to get a hold of you this way for a long time.
		My computer went out of me, so I can't email.
		I had an experience many years ago where in the middle of the night I thought I was dreaming, but I found myself standing engulfed in white light.
		I was in my bare feet.
		At least I felt I was in my body.
		And I went to look down at my body, and it was light, too.
		I went to touch it.
		It didn't quite feel like flesh, but I felt I had a body.
		But there was light totally around me.
		And I could feel like a floor because it was very smooth.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		But you were standing on or lying on?
unidentified		Standing.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Okay, looking down at your body.
unidentified		Looking down at my body, and my body was just light.
		I was just lit up.
		You couldn't even distinguish any lines, but I knew I was there, but I was part of it.
		I can understand the phraseology very well, Jess.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I know for everybody who's out there listening to this, there are no terms in the English language the moment you move outside of this context.
		What you're listening to is a person who in the hypnogic states, which are the states in between awaking and sleeping and sleeping and awakening, where so much happens in our existence.
		She is describing in that dimension her being in contact with her mental and spiritual self.
		That's great stuff.
unidentified		Well, you know, I didn't really understand it because it's been bothering me for years.
		I've written to near-death experiences, and they couldn't answer my questions or answers.
		Because I threw a lot of stuff at them because I've had a lot of paranorma happen in my life.
		I've had a lot of dead relatives come to me because they seem to be very attracted to me.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		For what reason?
unidentified		I don't know, but they have a tendency, they touch me or they call my name.
unidentified		And they're always trying to communicate, but they never seem to spit out what they need to say.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe you don't know that because I'm not sure of what you're describing to me because I'd have to...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That resonated.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I have absolutely no doubt that that's occurred.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Daniel.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Now, the other stuff, I don't know.
		I'd have to be closer to you.
		But here's the point.
		Start by understanding this.
		We are spiritual that operate in this dimension in the physical plane, but we are really something greater and more powerful than this place will ever be.
		By the course of things that could happen, from what you ate to things that influenced your everyday life, like an argument, of trauma, or falling off a pair of steps, or getting struck by lightning, we enter that level of consciousness.
		So start just in accepting that you're a spiritual person, like all of us, and the uniqueness of this event that's happened to you, you're able to pick up other realms and other dimensions and start looking at each one of them individually.
		And I know the feeling about having people talk to you when, you know, I have this problem.
		If I'm doing a lecture and I'm close to the audience, the people who know audience members who've passed through the other side will start talking, trying to get me to tell them stuff.
		And before I know it, I have 10 or 12 entities talking to me, trying to get me to tell the people that I'm talking to that I'm close to what they want to tell them.
		And it's happened a lot of times.
		And I usually just tell the people in my artist, listen.
		If you see me start pacing and talking really loud, it's because I'm trying to override them so I can tell my lecture instead of listening and telling all of you what they're trying to get me to tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it must be something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your book, At Peace and the Light, is right now the only one left, huh?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		fit.
		Three-by-lights and paperback, but the hardback edition, what I offer us...
		Oh, you wiped them from the face of the earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But That Peace and the Light is available through you.
unidentified		Yes.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		The hardback version, you know, I kept as many of them as I could because I knew that they're the people that I really wanted to get to them after the big book push.
		And I kept hardback, so it came as a part of that they were contributing to a spiritual project as well as that to their own education in it.
		And it's at Peace and the Light.
		And, you know, half price, send me $12, which is $10 for the book and $2 for postage.
		And I will sign it to you and send it back.
		Well, it's more of a saying, hey, guys, here you can get it to the price of a paperback, a little more than a paperback.
		It comes from me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Signed.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I hate to say that I don't hate to say, but the people who are around me who help package these books are not.
		They are hospice volunteers and hospice patients.
		And, you know, we help each other and we sit around and it gives me a way to bring them all to my home or I go over to where they are.
		They have somebody around them talking to them and spending hours and not alone.
		And they talk about it and we all read your mail and we think about what you say to us.
		And we put a lot of love in those books.
		And I sign them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what name is Daniel?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel, what's the address?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it's post office box 1919.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Peel box 1919.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Aiken, A-I-K-E-N, South Carolina, 29802.
		And please put Art Bell is Wonderful on the envelope.
		And everybody puts it in big broad letters, Art.
		Really?
		Art Bell is Wonderful is half the page.
		So everybody keep putting Art Bell is Wonderful because I'm saving the envelopes.
		And I'm going to build me a, I'm going to build me a little TP outside of Art's house just made out of the envelopes that said Art Bell is Wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel, Daniel.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel's book is At Peace and the Light.
		Half price for the hardback book.
		That's what we're talking about here, the hardback book, not the softcover.
		$12 to P.O. Box 1919, Aiken, A-I-K-E-N, South Carolina.
		That's Aiken, South Carolina.
		Zip code 29802.
		And there's one other personal matter that I want to cover with you, Daniel, for my audience.
		My audience, before anything ever began to happen that I talked about on the air, I just, you know, I do a five-hour talk show every night.
		There's no way in hell I can come on here sometimes under the pressure I've been under.
		And not just talk about the fact that I was under some pretty critical pressure before they knew it, before I talked about it, you knew it.
		And you started calling my home.
		And I've told my audience that this was really a critical occurrence in my life.
		And that I really, I had to talk about the pressure I was under, but couldn't talk about what it was all about.
		And I would hope that you would tell these people, because you know what it's all about, that there is no way, for the sake of others, that I can talk about it.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
		I'd like to tell everybody who's listening, because I picked it up and knew about it from just one talking to Art for a brief moment.
		And I came, I listened, and then finally I wasn't going to put up with it.
		I was coming for him to tell me.
		So I came to see him.
		For everybody who thanked me for, I got a lot of letters, Art, from people who thanked me for taking and being friends to you through it, whatever it was.
		Everybody that's listening.
		For the safety and protection of a lot of people close to Art in a heartfelt way.
		And for what he was going through, it is amazing to me that he was able to hold up under that pressure and do a five-hour show every night.
		And for all the love that everybody sent to him and all the care and concern that he relayed to me in the mail, let it be that he's not keeping a secret from you.
		Where a man's dignity and his pride and his heart and having to make the really true right decision, which goes to give everything that the grain of a man is, and he's made that decision.
		And it's to protect, it's not art protecting himself, it's art protecting people as close to him as maybe his whole family.
		So everybody out there listening keeps sending him that love.
		But he made it through it because of you, and things will be even better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Daniel.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, because, you know, it's a good idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, some people out there, they think that I'm just, you know, somehow teasing them and telling them something horribly is wrong and holding it back secret.
		I just, I can't, I can't not talk about the pressure, but I can't tell what it is either.
		No, you cannot.
unidentified		Yeah.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		You cannot do that.
		And also, Art, a lot of people that I got letters, you know, I have thousands and thousands and thousands of letters.
		That's why I'm up to books, people.
		I want everybody to know they're coming.
		I have thousands and people really wondering and really caring about your art.
		And everybody, keep thinking and caring about him.
		And think about the pressure on his whole family.
		Because if Art's going through something, you know all his family members are going through it.
		And there was a tough decision he had to make as a man, but it was the right decision.
		And he is not keeping anything from you that if he that is any way I could tell them.
unidentified		He would tell them.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		No, I just see him for you, Art, because it was eating me, and I had to finally come and see you, and I had to threaten him to get him to tell me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to get people, before I take the next call, Art, there's something really important to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're at the bottom of the ark.
		So, Adam, just mark that down.
		When we come back, we'll get to that.
		In the meantime, if you want a book at half price, Book C sell back hardbacks.
		It's at Peace in the Light.
		It's $12, including the shipping.
		P.O. Box 1919.
		Aiken, A-I-K-E-N, South Carolina.
		Zip code 29802.
		From an area near Dreamland in the high desert, this is Dreamland.
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		Okay.
		Okay, attention, everybody.
		It's time for Michael's report.
		Michael?
		The sun.
		The middle of the sun is 30 million degrees.
		If they had that hot, it would burn a small town to the ground.
		The heat from the sun travels 93 million miles to the earth in about eight minutes.
		The sun's UV rays then shoot through us like deadly lasers, cooking us like worms on the sidewalk, causing nasty, unsightly, basal cell carcinomas.
		One out of five people will get skin cancer in their lifetime, usually from excessive exposure to the sun before the age of 18.
		Protect your kids.
		Use sunscreen.
		Um, thank you, Michael.
		That was very informative.
		Uh, thanks.
		Did anyone help you with your report?
		Yeah, my dad.
		He's a dermatologist.
		A message from the American Academy of Dermatology.
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		The study included white, African-American, and Hispanic students and those from different economic backgrounds.
		Here's Dr. Tom McKenzie of the Department of Community Pediatrics at the University of California, San Diego.
		Dr. McKenzie was a researcher with the study.
		The intervention was conducted in California, Louisiana, Minnesota, and Texas, and there was decrease in the physical activity of the children in all four states.
		Dr. McKenzie points out that the CATS program works by using physical education classes already in the schools.
		Classes met three times a week and involved kids in grades three through five.
		For the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, I'm Valerie Yahlborough.
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	From the Kingdom of Nineveh, you're here in Greenland with Art Bell.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is the CBC Radio Network.
		It is.
		Danien Brinkley is our guest this evening.
		He'll be back in a moment.
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unidentified		If you are, we can do something about that.
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		All right, several things.
		Christopher Ruddy, a very famous newspaper columnist for the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, a man who I used to interview constantly on the radio, has done a front page review piece on me to talk about a turnaround.
		A profile piece on me.
		Christopher Ruddy did.
		He actually came out here.
		And it appeared in today, Sunday's Pittsburgh Tribune, a review on the front page of all places on the front page.
		And that article is now available on my website.
		You can go up there and see it at www.artbell.com.
		People write me and say you talk about your web page all the time.
		You never tell us how to get to it.
		That's how you get to it.
		And by the way, there is a photograph also of the man we're speaking with now, Danion Brinkley, on the website.
		Daniel didn't know that.
		He took some photographs and I've got one up on the web.
		Anyway, my web address is www.artbell.com.
		All right, back now to Daniel Brinkley who had something he wanted to get out and then I've got a question I must ask.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Daniel, go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		What I wanted to do, Art, is because so many people always are talking to me about how to be a part of changing things and, you know, helping me in what I'm doing.
		And I wanted to tell people that, those who still have their piece of paper and pencil, here is a way that I believe that if we start today from Dreamland and we follow this procedure, we will have begun to change so much about our health care system and change it to a caring health care system.
		I have been studying the alternative and compatible medicine era from the FDA to Lynn Horowitz to everybody who's ever told me anything about it.
		And I found out that we have two bills.
		They're called the Access to Medical Treatment Act.
		And they're Senate Bill 578 and House Bill 446.
		And what this bill is, is it gives us as patients and as individuals the right to be treated by any health care professional with any medical treatment that we choose.
		And I believe in all my heart, from everything I've seen in the visions and in now 22 years of being one of these people, that this is one of the most important pieces of legislature that we could possibly ever commit to pass.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, it was Senate Bill 578 and House Bill 1?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		746.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		746.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And I'm asking everybody out there to call and write their congressman and their senator and ask them to please support this bill.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And if they're interested in information about the bill or they're interested in what I'm doing with the compassion in action to be a part of it, I wanted to give them these numbers so they could call or write and help me put this together and become a part of it.
unidentified		Sure.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		It's called Compassion in Action, and it teaches the techniques that I've learned and studied throughout the years.
		It keeps an update on what's going on in the alternative and the spiritual nature of applied medicine with stuff from Larry Dossi and Judith Orloff and Will Raymond and everyone else that I can get to contribute to it.
		It's Compassion in Action, and it's post office box 84013.
		It's Los Angeles, California, 90073.
		And the email address is C-I-A-E-M-I-N-A-A-L-O-L dot com.
		And while it's in California, this is something I'd like to really tell everybody if they get a chance to tell someone they to appreciate this.
		When you hear about Hollywood, what happened when I tried to begin to figure out how to do this and to develop a program and then a foundation where people could come on and they could have companions over email and over the internet where we can talk and keep up with the daily hospice rigors and hospice volunteers and how to keep information passing between us.
		Paramount Studios, Fox Studios, and a whole group of people in Los Angeles came together to help me.
		And I'd like to make a special say thank you to Paramount and thanks to Fox and thanks to COPOL Swim Productions and even more to thankful to the Veterans Administration in Los Angeles for helping develop innovative programs to help veterans and to the general veteran systems.
		And we hear a lot of stuff about VAs.
		They're taking really good care of my father and they're doing the best they can and I want to help develop programs for veterans.
		And so if people would write me, I would send them pieces of all the information.
		And if they're interested in the medical success bill, since I'm underwriting it myself, if they send me a dollar or two so I can pay for the postage to send the information out or anything that they would donate, it's tax-free.
		I'd appreciate it.
		And I just wanted people to know how to find me.
		And one other thing are, people who are listening out there, I'm going to Egypt too.
		I've been going there for years and years.
		I go to the Yucatan because I believe this Mayan business and that pyramid story.
		And I go to Peru.
		If they're interested in that literature, just write me.
		Please try to send me a stamp when you send it to me.
		And I'll send you the information out of the three places that I go.
		So if anyone's interested in going with me, you know, you're welcome.
		And Mine is spiritual adventures.
		I try to take people out of the world that they live in and explore the mystical and geological and archaeological place, but yet really help them change and deal with trauma and grief and loss of people and try to keep the price really low.
		So for all you people who like really rich tours, please don't call me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel, I've got a whole bunch of faxes here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I'm John.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		That's all I need to thank you for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You had a series of visions which were documented.
		About 80% of these have come to pass.
		I'm getting a gazillion faxes here, asking, please, to tell us some of those that have not yet occurred, that lie directly or nearly ahead.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, what we have to really watch out, and this is my first, my most important one for me, and what's happening with the medical system, we must pay close attention to every piece of information that we hear from the establishment of hospitals and HMOs.
		One of the most troubling parts of the vision to me was that if there was ever going to be a crisis where, as we would grow spiritually, there would be a system put into place to control what we're doing.
		That system is now taking place.
		HMOs and managed care systems and all of those things.
		And anything else That's happening, everybody.
		If you're not in control of your own health, and that the doctor cannot be sued, and the HMO cannot be sued for malpractice, and you literally are told, your doctors are literally told that if they tell you certain things that will cost them money, that they will take away from their practices, and they let veterans die, and they don't search for the answers to it or not the VA, then that issue must be dealt with.
		Next, we're moving into a place where one of the things that I talked about is that what's happened in the Middle East and in Egypt, and as these issues develop, this place will hit a boiling point in the next year.
		It will hit a boiling point.
		We have to really watch out for what will develop from all of that in the Middle East.
		And one of the things that were a trigger point in it, and I just found this out the other week when I was, you know, when we talked the first time, I kept seeing an army of women marching into Europe.
		And I discovered this lady sent me a copy of Time magazine that said that there was an army of women prepared to train to march into Iran and Afghanistan to fight for the Islamic issues dealing with women because it was really severe Islamic issues.
		This was one of the key factors.
		Another one of the key factors that I've described for years is the development of a type of army or a police that would have a blue and silver uniform on, blue and like with silver colors to it, that would be a combined force of the Palestinian and Israeli police force.
		And if we watch what's happening in the issues, which no one, anybody said I was crazy when I said this in the early days, now there's a Palestinian authority that's about to begin to work and become more strict and crack down even more.
		And people lead and saved by the light.
		I described literally the peace accord, literally, and this is like 1975 art.
		There have been no new predictions.
		I mean, I hear people say that I've come up with new ones, but I haven't.
		It's the same ones.
		I just learned more about what I saw.
		What we have to do is we have to prepare for a period of time, just like from El Nino to disease.
		We have to prepare to go through a transition in this millennium.
		But the really golden light about it is in health care, that if we watch and keep access to medical treatment open, we will develop whole new fields of medicine that deal with magnetics, just like what's on your water pipe, just like what is using in therapies for light therapy and the energy bodies.
		And if we have that kind of health and perspective of our emotional and spiritual self, it doesn't matter what's happening.
		But we're in for startling revelations about who we really are and a control system trying to put in place from V-CHIP all the way to the new Millennium 2000 program initiated by our government.
		It has to be watched very, very closely because if you look at it and you read everything that the administration says they're going to do, it says they're really going to stick their nose in every bit of your business and seek to control it in every aspect of how you gather your information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		A few quick calls.
		Wildcard line, you're on there with Daniel Brinkley.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good evening, Art.
		And hi, Daniel.
		How are you doing?
		This is.
		This is Tony in Las Vegas.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tony.
unidentified		How are you?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Doing pretty good.
unidentified		Yeah, I have a few questions.
		I guess I'll ask the longest one first.
		Medical access drugs are one thing, but what's your opinion on the government, a government that has been claiming for years there's a drug war and has a president who smoked pot and police that go after penny any economically starving drug users that simply are not the ones responsible for bringing the drugs in and all the while keeping really hardcore drugs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What you're really asking, Tony, and we're going to hold it at that, is Daniel's opinion on the drug war.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		It's a scam, in my personal opinion.
unidentified		There is not a, I mean, you control people.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		This is something I've learned from my history, not something I've learned intuitively or from a vision.
		I've lived in a part of this world where you saw all that stuff go on, and you watched it from a point of, it was how our government appears to control so much of the daily lives of what we call the people in a very economically depressed situation.
		And I believe it has a lot to do with the control of that.
		And I don't have any problems with people smoking marijuana.
		I have hospice patients who have chemotherapy, who can't eat, who are so sick that their hair is falling out.
		And I watch them smoke a couple of joints and get hungry and eat for the first time in two days, who smile and who go to sleep.
		So when I listen to all that, I think that all those people in Washington who are condemning the people who are trying access to medical to find these alternative therapies, I believe they ought to have them about four chemotherapies and ask them again.
		Because then there is where that is.
		The other point is when they say they're going to take marijuana, which I don't really know if it's good, bad, or indifferent.
		I'm not for drugs.
		I'm not for that.
		I'm for discipline and control and spiritual engla.
		When you realize that they're going to cut marijuana off at its source, and that means you're going to have to arrest Mother Nature and God because it's a weed that goes wild all over the world, you're getting a little ridiculous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and they're devoting actually the lion's share of the budget to marijuana eradication.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's absolutely asinine.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's so.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		I believe that the billions of dollars, there's one more government fight them and one more self-perpetuating system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly right.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		And if anybody who realizes in the early days of when President Nixon invented the DEA, everybody knew that it was his private secret army that gave him a way to invade and control and operate within countries all over the world from the Middle East to Latin America.
		And he stated it.
		Him and Henry stated it over and over in various statements throughout Senate investigations and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
		We're short on time, Daniel.
		Easter of the Rockies, you're on the O with Daniel Brinkley.
unidentified		Hello.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Eric.
unidentified		Hi, Daniel.
unidentified		This is Eric in Austin, Texas.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Eric.
unidentified		I am a technological remote viewer, specializing in remote viewing and computer systems and different technologies and that sort of discipline.
		I was kind of wondering, I've also had experiences that have gone beyond that, and especially into possible personal problems and so forth and so on.
		I'm wondering, how do I trust that and so forth and so on, and how do I deal with it?
		Because sometimes it just freaks me out.
		And tonight it's just like I, you know, I've had this interesting experience with my wife.
		And needless to say, what I sensed wasn't too pleasant.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can tell you this.
unidentified		First, get over it.
unidentified		Okay, because number one, Eric, you probed it.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		When you were talking about the instructor issue with your wife, you are probing it.
		It's you testing your abilities, but also paying attention to things that's not any of your business.
		She has her own private world.
		And yes, she told you two things that didn't fit together.
unidentified		And then you piece the third part of this puzzle in.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Okay?
		Now, in remote viewing, that's a very easy thing to do.
		When you start letting go of the intellectual place of remote viewing and drifting one or two levels deeper in your ethereal self, you're going to start dealing with the emotions of the things.
		What you should do is, folks, sit to a hospice.
		You know, I am a broken record about this because you can find control, compassion, access, love, devotion, and everything that brings those people back into your life instead of pushes them away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on there with Danian Brinkley.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		Where are you?
		This is Susanna from Oregon.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Daniel.
		How are you doing?
		Art, I spoke to you about two weeks ago when the Free Jays were on, one of the last callers.
		Yes.
		That was a lady that had problems with prophetic dreams.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Email has been shut down at the college.
		That's why I haven't been calling.
		But for Daniel, same question I asked the Free Jays.
		I've just had a very erratic talent, if you will.
		And it's been very trying because sometimes here I am and I get too much information.
		I just get completely snowballed, like you said, where you just can't shut it off.
		And I'm not a verbal, audible, sound, mental, word picture person.
		I get emotions.
		So basically, it's like somebody taking a ping-pong racket and banging me on the head several times and saying, here, feel that?
		Well, and other times I'm just as dead as post.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		What you should do is focus on loving something.
		How I found out the greatest control when it's just data input.
		Because I love data input.
		But I also have learned through going through the near-death experiences that I love emotional input.
		So when you're starting to get bombarded and that bombardment of information overloads circuitry, focus on loving something.
		I mean, go love something.
		If it's a beautiful garden, if it's a garden spot, if it's a room that you decorate, if it's an altar or something that you build in your house that has little pieces to it that you can go and focus on.
		Because as you begin to focus on that and the pieces on it, you begin to gain control back of yourself.
		I run into places where people's emotions override me.
		And what I do is I have little objects, like I carry a little card with me that has what's called the light centers in the body.
		And I pull it out and I focus on it.
		And I look at those colors and I breathe in those colors until I find the level of where I'm calm again.
		And then I just separate the information and try to help the people that I'm around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Daniel, that has to do it.
		We're out of time.
		Just go on.
		Go on.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was fun, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		So stay where you are for a while until you feel right about moving.
		Thanks for being on the program.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me, Art, and please have me back again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know I will, Daniel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And listen, stay on the line for a minute, all right?
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dannion brinkley ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it for now, folks.
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