Art Bell and Major Ed Dames of SciTech explore Cold War-era UFO cover-ups, where 50% of 1950s–60s sightings allegedly involved U.S. spy planes like the SR-71. Dames details technical remote viewing—a structured, non-paranormal method developed in 1983—used to investigate threats like a Hale-Bopp-linked pathogen (expected over Africa in spring 1998) and Project Starman, a classified 1997 initiative to communicate with an advanced extraterrestrial race arriving post-Earth’s ecological collapse. He dismisses claims of alien tech in human industries but confirms 20,000 genetically similar observers tracking Earth’s fate, while SciTech’s training modules (e.g., Module 2 in September) aim to democratize the skill. Bell’s skepticism toward government transparency and Dames’ refusal to engage with skeptics like Randi underscore a broader push for independent verification of hidden truths, blending science, conspiracy, and environmental warnings. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be across all these many, many varied time zones from the Hawaiian and Tahitian Island chains in the west all the way east to the Caribbean and Cuba, the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north to the Pole.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell, top of the morning.
Great to be here.
Here's what's going to happen tonight.
In the first hour, we're going to have open lines.
And then at 11 o'clock, we're going to have Major Ed Dames.
And I originally thought, oh, well, we'll do it at the beginning of the program.
And then I thought, no, let's have one hour of open lines because there really are a number of topics that I want to cover with you and things that I want to say this morning before we launch.
And pre-launch is welcome to KVNA.
People of Flagstaff, Arizona, can now hear the entire program thanks to KVNA.
We have moved affiliates in Flagstaff, and now it's KVNA, and they will carry the program from now until 6 a.m. and they will do this Tuesday through Saturday, I guess.
At any rate, you're going to get the entire program in Flagstaff, so welcome aboard.
Glad to have you.
I just heard on the news that the national safety organization responsible for automobile safety has decided to change the name.
They're not going to talk about auto accidents anymore.
They're only going to talk about crashes.
Everybody's changing names for things these days.
No more automobile accidents.
They're not accidents.
From their point of view, they're preventable.
Therefore, they will call them crashes.
I wonder how long radio broadcasting is going to hold up.
Maybe it'll become radio dispersing or something else.
I don't know.
With respect to the news, the big news out there, of course, is UPS has gone on strike.
The first, as a matter of fact, strike at United Parcel Service has disrupted package deliveries, and boy a hazard across the U.S.
No new talks scheduled to end the work stoppage.
Only a few thousand of the 185,000 Teamsters at the company crossed the picket line.
So for now, it looks like it's going to hold.
In the meantime, business is going to suffer because the mail service will not pick up the slack.
FedEx can only pick up part of the slack.
And so it is going to hurt business.
There is no question about it.
Now, I've had a number of faxes from UPS employees who privately say they're not at all happy with this.
And they rather thought the deal offered by UPS was a good deal.
That certainly does not cover All of the opinions, and CNN has been out interviewing some of the loyal and faithful who very much think that it is a proper strike.
I don't know, you tell me I know I've got a lot of UPS drivers who listen to this program, in fact, gazillions of them, and I would imagine tonight they're probably sitting home listening to the program.
So I wonder what you guys think.
The U.S. Supreme Court blocked the execution of a California death row inmate Monday just hours before he was scheduled to die at San Quentin.
As a matter of fact, he had ordered his last meal and was about to be moved to the death watch cell when word came the execution was blocked.
High court upheld a Sunday federal appeals court ruling that threw out Thompson's death sentence and reversed his 1983 rape conviction.
The rape conviction was a, quote, special circumstance that in connection with murder made Thompson eligible for the death penalty under California law.
We have yet another government explanation for UFOs in the news in Reuters at this hour, and it has been breaking throughout the weekend.
This is becoming tiresome.
Now, let me read you from Reuters.
Now, national security officials systematically lied to explain reports of UFOs at the height of the Cold War, according to a CIA study released Monday, in what amounts to the first admission of federal deception on the issue.
Really?
The study said that most reports of unidentified flying objects in the 1950s and 60s stemmed from glimpses of super-secret U.S. spy planes, the U-2, and the SR-71 Black Bird.
Rather than disclose the existence of these aircraft, the military put out false stories.
The study was written by a historian at the National Reconnaissance Office, which operates military satellites.
So they're suggesting that accounts for about half of the reports during that period.
I'm kind of wondering why official government agencies, the Air Force, and now even the CIA, are coming out trying to explain again and again and again and again UFO sightings.
It seems like they've got a great big interest in explaining UFO sightings.
An awful big interest.
Maybe too much of an interest.
In other words, I'm not exactly sure.
Each new admission, each new revelation makes me doubt all the more.
It does not begin to convince me all the more.
It makes me doubt all more.
And so this story now is everywhere.
Headlines, U.S. feared Soviets would fake UFOs.
All kinds of headlines are flashing around the country over this CIA admission.
Oh, here's a cute one.
A Japanese scientist has developed, brace yourself, an artificial womb.
This is from Reuters.
Artificial womb capable of incubate, incubating goat fetuses and, in 10 years, human fetuses.
According to the scientist quote, we're aiming eventually to use the technology for human fetuses, but it may take up to ten years.
So let me see if I've got this straight.
We can clone a human being, right?
Well, everybody thinks we can.
We probably already have done so privately, secretly, even though the president moves to pass laws against cloning.
Think about it for a minute.
We can clone Dolly.
We can put human genes in sheep.
I believe we can or will shortly be able to clone human beings.
so we could take a cloned human being and grow them in an artificial womb you gotta wonder whether they're going to need us after a while A cloned human being in an artificial womb.
One other item that I would like to call your attention to is a very serious item for me.
Actually, two of them.
The lighter one first.
I'm going to give you two reasons to go to the website right now.
Late last night, just before Dreamland went on the air, Keith Rowland called me and said, hey, Art, there are two of the newest incredible crop circles you've ever seen.
They are remarkable, remarkable aerial photographs.
We are having the most remarkable crop season.
Crop circle season, he says.
Corrects himself.
It is incredible what's going on out there.
And there is no way on God's green earth.
And that's what I meant to say, that human beings are responsible for what you can now see up there on my website.
No way on Gods Yet.
And for a while longer, Green Earth.
Go take a look at those on my website right now.
Dash, dash, dash.
New subject.
There is a UFO debunker.
I guess that's how he'd bill himself.
I don't know.
Named Carl Korff.
And I began getting faxes toward the butt end of last week saying that Kalkorf had made a bunch of statements about me that were outrageous.
That, among other things, I had called several of my affiliates and threatened my affiliates with yanking my affiliation from their radio station should they allow Kalkorf on their radio station.
He went on to further state that, let's see, that I, You'll recall back to the Richard Hoagland extravaganza in Phoenix that I had some sort of financial connection to that and that there was information that I was not going to allow out to ruin it ahead of time.
I mean, just absolutely outrageous allegations, and I admit I flew through the roof.
Now, I didn't really believe it.
I wouldn't believe somebody would say this of me until I heard it myself.
There is a program very much like mine on earlier in the evening in some markets called Sightings, and he sightings the radio show.
And he made this statement on sightings.
And so I did what you could imagine I would do, or you would probably do under the same circumstances.
I didn't even know who the hell Carl Korf was.
I went to the site and I listened to the program.
It blew my mind.
I would no more call one of my affiliates.
He actually said that.
I would no more call one of my affiliates.
You know, look, talk radio is made up of all kinds of divergent opinion: a good, bad, right, left, interesting, boring.
And I would no more call one of my affiliates and threaten them with the yanking of my affiliation if they would put somebody on the air than I would, then I am the man in the moon.
I would never do that.
It runs against every grain of my broadcasting soul.
I would never do such a thing, and I turned absolutely beat red.
So here's what's going to happen.
Number one, you can hear what Mr. Korf had to say for yourself by visiting my website.
We simply pulled that segment off AudioNet, which apparently supplies sightings with a place to play their programs on the net, as AudioNet thankfully does for us.
They're very good people in Dallas.
And I pulled that particular segment with Mr. Korf saying the things he said and have put it up on my website so you might digest yourself what this man has said.
And Wednesday, we will have Mr. Korf on this program at the beginning of the program, 10 o'clock specific time.
And Mr. Korf can then say what he wishes to say with regard to his comments, his comments about me.
That'll be Wednesday at the beginning of the program.
I have rarely been so angry and outraged as I was over what was said.
So if you want to hear it, it's up there.
We're pretty straightforward on everything on this program.
And toward the end of the week, I said, if Mr. Korf has, in fact, said these things, then I would be more than happy to have Mr. Korf and any individuals at any radio stations that he claims I called on the air to address Mr. Korf personally right here and to allow Mr. Korf to prove his case.
That offer still stands.
Mr. Korf, as of yet, has not come up with the names of any individuals.
He has come up with the call letters of two radio stations, which he now claims he cannot verify as ones that Art Bell really called.
So people really need to be careful about the things that they say about other people, I think is the lesson there.
Or they need to know things that are a fact before they libel other people.
And Mr. Korf will be here to address that personally on Wednesday evening.
Tomorrow night, we will have Bob Guccione, who is the publisher of Penthouse Magazine.
And he will probably talk of many things.
One of them being his wife, who tragically has cancer, and not so tragically, I believe, is in the middle of recovery from cancer with a method that Mr. Guccione claims should be available to everybody out there.
And so he's moving toward a class action lawsuit in that regard.
It should be a very interesting program.
We will discuss as well First Amendment issues, that sort of thing.
But particularly with regard to cancer, I think he's got a lot to say.
Should be interesting.
I will eventually do an interview for Penthouse Magazine as well.
And by the way, there is a brief interview that appeared in the present issue of Rolling Stone.
That's also on the website.
You know, there's a lot of good reasons for you to go to the website right now.
This is a story that fortunately did not change my life, but I'll tell it briefly.
Today is our anniversary.
And it's kind of an interesting story.
Ramona's here.
We didn't know it.
Somehow, you know, life has been flashing by.
We've been so busy with the network, with business, and with personal life.
These things come upon you in strange ways sometimes.
Thanks, Werner.
At least this is better than I forgot it and she remembered it, or better than she remembered it, and I remembered it and she forgot it, you know, that sort of thing.
When one, at least we both forgot it until it was called to our attention.
That's a better way to go.
So today is our anniversary.
Anyway, that's kind of the layout for what's coming this evening.
And because I had so much stuff that I wanted to get out in the first hour, I said to Ed, no, let's begin at 11.
Now, as a precursor to the Ed Dames program coming up, or the Ed Dames appearance at the top of the hour, I should tell you that I have viewed at least a good portion of his remote viewing Module 1 tape.
And it is incredibly well done.
It's kind of a great experiment turning these modules loose, which will result in the end in the average American, or worldwide for that matter, being able to do what Ed Dames does.
Yeah, I actually think it was the best program we have done to date with David Oates.
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I'd say you'd be up on a top 10 of your all-time favorite shows.
I mean, if you ever get a chance to play it again.
What I was going to say is a couple of questions, a couple of things that I like Oates to do is on a reversal is James Earl Ray whether he did or did not pull the trigger.
I have given David, thank you, permission to reverse me.
And so it'd be interesting to see what David comes up with.
He can, of course, I'm on the air five hours a night, so he can pick his time and pick his reversals.
It'd be kind of interesting.
It'd be kind of fun.
There are a number of interesting reversal possibilities.
One of them, of course, if I were to, I think that if I were to construct a list of what people would like, Mel's Hole, the Area 51 episode, the pilot, of course, who flew into Area 51, ostensibly, and then was shot down, allegedly.
Very dramatic piece.
Would be interesting to do reversals on that.
There should have been maximum stress, so there should be a lot of good reversals available from that one.
By the way, one of these nights later in the week, I'm going to open up a men in black line.
How many of you think that a man in black would actually call in anonymously, or maybe with some sort of voice changer, and talk to us about his duties?
Well, you all know you have to fish hard to catch the one you want, so we may go through a few false starts, but later in the week, watch for it.
When I get in the mood, I intend to open a man in black line.
Oh, by the way.
Oh, by the way.
Finally, the movie Contact came to my fine little town, and so my wife and I went to see Contact Sunday.
And I must say, it was a staggeringly good movie.
If you have not yet seen it, you must.
You just must.
And it was kind of interesting when I had Leonard Nimoy here as a guest.
He enjoyed the special effects, but did not think much of the movie.
And interestingly, he's the only one, Leonard Nimoy, is the only one that I've talked to that has not raved about the movie.
Now, I think the guys who rate movies, you know, the Siskels and Eberts and so forth, are giving it kind of a thumbs down.
I'm not sure about specifically about Siskel and Ebert, you know, but reviewers are giving it thumbs down.
And I just cannot imagine why.
It is probably the best movie of its genre that I have ever seen.
And it left me in deep thought.
And I'm still in deep thought about it.
And if any of you would like to discuss it, we can do so.
It was a profound movie.
Jodi Foster did a tremendous job.
In fact, there is somebody I'd like to interview, Jodi Foster, about that motion picture.
Maybe about her career generally.
She's done several movies that I have a great affection for.
Remember Hannibal Lecter?
Oh, my.
Anyway, Contact was a movie to be reckoned with, no question.
Well, what do you think about the CIA coming out and saying that they lied to the American people to protect the U-2 and other, you know, the SR-71 Blackbird, and they're saying that accounts for at least half of the sightings during all those years.
Now, why are they doing this?
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Because they want to keep, you know, there's so much to this whole conspiracy, if you want to call it a conspiracy.
There's so much to it.
There's so many things you have to cover up.
There's so many things that they're probably afraid of, too, that makes them just, oh my God, we've got to cover this up.
We've got to cover this up because if we bring this out, then they're going to, you know, it's just, there's so much to it.
You can't even, you know, with the, I've just learned so much lately.
I'm so happy.
I've been listening to you for the past three weeks.
I've heard about you a lot, and I'm just so excited.
I just, I cannot wait to come home and like 10 o'clock, I'm here.
You know what I mean?
I've been trying to get a hold of you, and I'm so happy.
I'm so proud of you, and I'm so, I have a lot of respect for you.
I'm a big believer in trying to do what I think is right and telling the truth.
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The truth is, the truth is there.
You have to fight for it.
And that's why that one guy tried to get you, you know, say bad things about you because, you know, you're bringing out the truth and people can't handle the truth.
Some people can't, you know, but I'm like, you know, I'm so nervous right now because I've been trying to get a hold of you for so long, as you've probably heard before, but I just love everything you talk about.
Yeah, you bet she knew radio, and she taught me a lot.
So, you know, it's one of those kinds of things.
I remember Claire kind of like I remember my drill sergeant from Lackland Air Force Base in Texas with some sort of the same sort of mixture of respect and loathing and fear.
But don't forget the respect part because she did know what she was doing, and she taught me a lot.
Well, in any case, you responded by saying you're a truth seeker.
And I also consider myself to be a truth seeker.
That's something I also feel is probably the highest thing really there is in life.
That's my opinion.
What I don't understand is the fear people have of the truth.
I mean, it's possible that truth affects people's security in life, people's security based on, oh, geez, all kinds of things which sometimes seem to be kind of fake, superficial, you know, people looking for their own self-interest.
I'm not exactly sure that the world would operate properly at all if you couldn't tell lies anymore.
And it's interesting that you bring this up because David Oates in reverse speech or Ed Dames with remote viewing, both of these disciplines are kind of cutting through the bull and they're going to help us to the truth.
But it's not going to be an easy journey because try it sometime.
Don't try it with your wife, but try it with somebody else.
Half an hour of the absolute truth between two people who know each other will more than likely result in a split between those two people forevermore.
People lie.
And without lies, I wonder what the world would be like.
I mean, you think it would be a better place, and I would hope it would be a better place, but I'm not really sure.
And he's going to argue with me on a couple of these points I know.
We all know what psychics are, many of them, Gene Dixon, Edgar Casey.
We could go back and cite many people who had or apparently seemed to have natural talent to predict events in the past.
So then what is remote viewing?
Well, the government spent, over a period of years, about $20 million of your tax dollars funding the program that Major Ed Dames was part of, was the targeting officer for, the training officer.
I believe remote viewing is absolutely real.
In his videotape, he says, or somebody says, I don't know, it's a statement in quotes, technical remote viewing is a scientifically repeatable problem-solving process done by a person to gain information about a specific target,
a person, place, thing, or event, anywhere in time, past, present, or future.
That is remote viewing.
Now, I tend to say that remote viewing is a form of disciplined psychic ability.
We have to turn our attention to a target for about 45 minutes, and we've got to be focused before we realize we have either a problem or a solution on our hands.
Well, the bombs, four or five hundred pounders, could very well have been jettisoned in the northeast corner of Arizona.
They haven't found the bombs.
And the reason we, I think I've mentioned this before, the reason we took on that project, which was a one-nighter, we worked late one night to do that, was merely to ascertain whether or not the aircraft and the pilot was intact.
And we put 100% probability, that is 100% likelihood, on the data that the pilot was dead and the plane was not intact.
As I mentioned before, the information about the location was about 70 to 80%.
And so that was not a 100% likelihood.
In other words, we would have had to work another night or another day to determine the location of the aircraft, the wreckage itself, at 100%.
There are so many things that a remote viewer could target out there, Ed.
How do you, wait a minute, before we even launch into that aspect of it, maybe we ought to, I gave a brief explanation, which I lifted from your tape, which, by the way, I should tell everybody I've got your tape, and it is a remarkably slick, well-done production, Ed.
Congratulations.
It's really, really a good tape.
Somebody obviously spent a very great deal of time in production.
And in fact, as many people would agree, this is an innate ability.
In fact, it's our birthright.
It's very much like language.
Language is a potential, but it must be learned.
And remote viewing, the way we do it, very structured, has to, like language, be learned.
It's a taught skill.
The discovery, in other words, and a good analogy would be the syntax and grammar for the way that unconscious mind communicates information to conscious awareness.
That discovery was made in 1983 in a laboratory.
And we took that into the deep dark world of military intelligence and began to develop it as a military intelligence collection tool.
And it took a number of years to get it to the point where it was consistent enough to be employed to support military operations.
But it remained a top-secret technique until SciTech in 1989 took it public.
How many changes did you You now run a private company called SciTech and you train people.
And I recall during all the early shows that we did, you said your training schedule was booked through, God, I don't remember, 1998 or something or another.
The Module 3 will be an advanced module, and everything after that is a professional and technical series that are geared specifically to disciplines like forensics, archaeology, space science, medicine, those kinds of things.
But the real meat of the home study course is the four tape set in Module 2, the town in September.
This module, Module 1, that is on the streets, is the introductory module, and it proves to people that this is real and easy to follow.
But the techniques, I have to emphasize, they were top secret.
Well, I was we have a technical support site that's free to all the all the purchases of the tape.
That's our SciTech website.
When people come in there, we answer their questions and provide tutorials for them.
And I've been watching this site and interacting with the people over the last couple of weeks, and I've almost been sitting back and biting my fingernails.
Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder, because this thing is growing much faster and more quickly than I had ever envisioned in terms of accuracy rates and the hundredth monkey effect.
I think that very soon a threshold number of people that can that have these skills is going to be reached and then Katie Bar the door.
Well, a natural psychic, when I train a person in these techniques and methods, I notice that there's about 20% of the individuals, the trainees, if my trainees represent a cross-section of society, about I don't think they do either.
Many of them are professionals, but there's about 20% of them that do have a natural ability.
And what I've noticed, what natural means is a very balanced person, balanced intuitively, balanced physically, balanced emotionally, and balanced intellectually.
When that kind of balance is there, you get really high performances out of people right off the bat.
I think that the interest level in these techniques and methods in technical remote viewing is so high.
We've gotten so many thousands of people that have requested training, and they come from all walks of life, and people who are like myself, about as psychic as a rock to individuals who do this for a living and are naturals.
But that does not mean that they're consistent.
They know they have the ability, but they lose the target once they turn their attention to a target because they don't have the discipline structure that we teach on these tapes.
If I were a natural psychic, I've had one grand experience in my life, only one, but if I were a natural psychic and I were experiencing these things on and off, on and off, on and off, without control, I might be tempted to seek out somebody like yourself to find out what I've got and try to control it.
As long as they're willing to sit down and go through the work, even if they're a skeptic, we can still do it because it's essentially a skill.
This is a skill.
If you think that you, for instance, to use an analogy, if you think you will never be able to ice skate or ski, it doesn't matter what you think with a good coach or a teacher or teaching methods, you're still going to be able to do that in spite of yourself.
And that's what we do, because this is a skill and it's a natural type of a pro a process that was discovered.
Within moments, possibly even by now, there will be a link on my website to the SciTech website.
Module 1 of the Grand Secret being dispersed worldwide is already out, and we'll tell you how to get more of Module 1, Module 1, or Module 2.
I'm sure we'll get to that.
We are in the relatively innocuous portion of the show right now, and I'll give you a pre-warming right now.
But probably in the next segment, the next hour, we're going to begin to get into some pretty rough stuff.
So if you tend to be scared by predictions of future events, then you're going to want to tune out.
And I'm giving you a good 22-minute notice to tune out because there are some very disturbing things that you're going to hear, because we're going to ask Ed about some things that he's talked about in the past and some new information that tends to underscore what he said.
And Ed, you've been a guest on this program, Ed, for about how long now?
And actually, it's far more effective now than it was then because most of the bugs have been worked out of it.
And it's just far more consistent now than it was in the military.
It needed to become commercial to work.
I think you find the same thing in the UFO arena, too.
It has to be taken out of the military environment to be usable.
I've been involved in a number of black programs in my military career, some of them very, very deep and dark, and others not so deep and dark, but nevertheless, clandestine covert operations and projects.
This project, this remote viewing project, this unit that I was a part of, training and operations officer for, I have never been involved in a unit or an operation that was held with so much,
that represented so much power and was so feared, it was coveted by certain people in political positions, it made the Army Chief of Staff or Intelligence so angry, he refused to talk about it.
It was feared, it was the antithesis of science to the military industrial community.
It was all those things.
And for all those reasons, it was a hot potato and it became a white elephant.
Just observing us, because the idea, a colonel, colonels watching us, just the idea that we were doing what we were doing, producing information in that manner, was so scary to some people.
It represented being close to the unknown, beyond just mystery, that I think it caused them to have heart attacks.
I should tell my audience, I don't know, it was maybe a half a year ago, you sent me your military record, and I've read the entire thing.
There's no question about it.
Major Dames was involved in exactly what he says he was and probably more that was not in there.
But your military record absolutely verifies what you were doing.
And so here's a general question.
This comes from Richard in California, and he's referring to these various Air Force explanations about Roswell.
And now, today, the latest, greatest from the CIA of all people talking about UFOs, saying in the 50s and 60s that about half the sightings could be attributed to the Blackbird SR-71 and the U-2, and so they lied to the American public to protect these experimental black covert aircraft.
Richard writes, the government could save us all an awful lot of time if they just tell us about the times that they actually told us the truth.
Those kinds, there are some out there that have been spotted, as we all know, as many of us know.
And they're a horse of a different color.
But If those kinds of sightings, if information about them was acquired, if technical information was acquired, they're artifacts of let's say propulsion, microwave signatures, other types of footprints that these things have, technologically speaking.
The devices that the military industrial community has are many times very classified, and their operating parameters, the parameters that collect information about these UFOs, those are very classified things.
They cost a lot of money.
And to be able to say that this particular species of device that you saw in the sky was not one of ours and was operating in the following modes, that would give away many of the operating parameters of our collection devices.
And we don't want a potential enemy to know what we can do.
The scientists that I have worked with, some of the best in the Skunk Works and other deep dark projects, they're willing to accede that there is a UFO out there, a piece of equipment that does not belong to us.
But they're not willing to use that word, others or people.
Once SciTech was supporting a large engineering endeavor in our early days, we were looking at the propulsion systems that was used on some of these so-called UFOs.
Well, let me tell you first that the scientists that we worked with, when queried about, or when the question was posed, gee, do any of you guys wonder about who has sent this or who's inside or what the others are like?
That question just was really almost irrelevant.
The military industrial community was very much interested in what made those toys work and not the who behind it.
Well, several of the devices that we looked at that were alien in nature, that were from another world, let's say.
Some devices were from another time, future humans.
I've talked about this before, sending either robot vehicles back in time or piloted vehicles passing through time.
And we've talked about this before.
Many of these devices are, as you might guess, robotic in nature.
It's almost like they are sentient machines.
And I think the best way to do this, since SciTech has abandoned a lot of a lot of our Very high visibility projects is to probably ask you and your listeners to select for SciTech those kinds of events and so-called objects, things that sometimes present themselves as objects are not.
They could just be lights or plasma balls.
Present those to SciTech.
Let us work that and come back to you two weeks later and give you our results.
Now, I had as a guest on two occasions recently, I was very honored to have Colonel Philip J. Corso, who had a lot of very, very profound things to say about things he saw and did when he was in the military.
And one of the things that struck me was that he said the alien bodies that were recovered virtually disintegrated very quickly, very quickly, and there was not enough time, in his words, to examine them because of that.
They virtually deteriorated before their eyes.
And you had said about Roswell that somebody had gone back and cleaned it up and that the bodies had disappeared.
And all of a sudden, boom, when he said that, it clicked what you had said about Roswell.
The debris was really there on the floor, on the desert floor, as well as the bodies.
But the very advanced race who orchestrated that particular drama then went back in time a number of hours after the event and our time.
They went back in time and prevented the crash from happening.
So there were two parallel timelines there.
When they prevented the crash from happening, all of a sudden, because it didn't happen anymore, the things, the physical artifacts, the physical debris disappeared.
All the physicality of the event was gone.
But because mind is outside of time, mind is really in the, let's say, the fifth dimension, time is a fourth dimension, mind is outside of space and time.
The memory of the event was still in the minds of the people who touched the bodies, who touched the debris, loaded it onto trucks, drove the trucks to different places.
But there was a lot of confusion all of a sudden because those things vaporized.
They were no longer there.
There's no physical evidence of that crash at all.
And yet it was real.
So these people will go to their graves, many of them already have, believing that they really touched that and that there really was a crash.
These people occasionally bumped into things while you were targeting obvious military targets, intelligence targets of various sorts, hardware, enemies of the U.S., whatever.
Soviet boomers represented a big threat to this country, as you might imagine.
So when operations research and systems analysis techniques or Monte Carlo theory or game theory could not pinpoint where a Soviet submarine was, and we needed to be able to do that to take them out using a nuclear weapon if we were going to war, technical, well, at that time it wasn't technical remote viewing, coordinate remote viewing was used to try to get a lock on these Soviet submarines.
And what we were encountering in some of these instances were glowing objects for photographs taken from satellites, glowing objects above the water or above an actual boomer, Soviet sub.
And these were, in fact, manned, manned devices, and they were tallying the number of warheads and actually the location of all the nuclear warheads in the world, point by point by point.
We had to investigate what they were doing.
And they were humans, but the humans were from about a number of decades ahead, moving back in time.
Now, I know that's very difficult to believe.
I mean, the kinds of methods that we use today are pretty precision.
I had to tell a woman the other day that her husband was dead.
Now, think about that.
A disappearance, prominent person.
Our techniques are good enough to be able to say with 100% likelihood that a person is dead and to tell a grieving wife that.
That's the same type of precision we use against Enigma.
There's a number of things you have to learn about this structure and the way that we perceive individuals dead or alive.
And it really has to be taught.
It's a taught skill.
And I wouldn't be able to provide you with any context in a conversation about how we discern that.
It's the way that we sketch the individual and the perceptions that we get from the individual or the lack of perceptions that we get in terms of their emotions or lack of emotions.
But that's just one aspect.
It's a self-correcting process, technical remote viewing.
We have a lot of double checks and cross-checks built into the system.
So one of the things that I had to do with our, and this is discussed in Module 2 of our tapes, things I had to do with the National Security Council and others is to place remote viewing in its proper place as opposed to all of the other different types of phenomena that belong either in the occult or in the realm of the paranormal and say, this is a different animal.
Don't put us in with these other things.
Channeling, out-of-bodies, altered states, deja vu.
And if there's a specific facility or the way to really do this precisely for soon, I think by December, enough people will be skilled to be able to really put together accurate pictures of what's there.
But the way to do it is to grab a photo, a long shot, any shot whatsoever, and circle the particular facility or structure that you're interested in rather than attempting to get a generic description of the whole area.
Look at that facility or take another photo and circle a moving object that's still framed and use that as a technical remote viewing target.
That way you have chain of custody.
You know specifically what your data is associated with rather than attempting to look at everything at once and not knowing which structure your descriptions are connected with.
That's the best way to do that.
And if you would like for SciTech to do that without violating national security, we can do that for you and your listeners.
Well, why don't you go ahead and put that one on your list?
I think a lot of people would like to know.
But again, you know what, Ed?
I'm actually a believer in national security, and I know damn well we've got a lot of things going on up there that are deep black projects, and we have a right to that.
So, you know, that actually in a lot of ways provokes another question.
I mean, you're turning loose something that is going to allow a lot of people, including Ed, our enemies, to look at us and look at Area 51 or other secure areas.
How about that aspect of it?
Course, I guess they've had their own projects going for some time, so I guess you're not really giving it away, are you?
No, the projects have not been as effective as SciTech technical remote viewing.
But there won't be that many things that could be hidden that well, things of a catastrophic nature.
I'm afraid that we really are facing the inevitability of more biological weapon attacks or possibly a nuclear weapon.
And if this kind of skill is in the hands of many people, particularly our intelligence services, many of my trainees have been intelligence officers, then we're going to know where and what is going on in terms of somebody putting together a weapon of mass destruction, whether it's a mountain truth or whatever.
There's a substantial amount of rumor and some fact, apparently, behind what we've heard about what used to be the Soviet Union and several tactical nuclear weapons or nuclear weapons of some sort being either sold or stolen and coming into the hands of Iran or Iraq or some one of those nations.
James Randy, let's cover James Randy because James Randy claims to have now, well, over a million dollars in a fund to anybody who can prove the kind of thing that you do.
And James Randy, I talked to James.
I had two or three opportunities to speak with him.
You said, I believe, that you contacted his organization to take up his challenge.
A lot of the audience will not recall or wasn't part of the show then.
I talked to James Randy about that, and his response to me by email was that he would write down a series of numbers and place them in his safe, and that you should relate to me those numbers.
And I thought that a rather uncontrolled experiment.
His safe didn't sound right to me.
So I wrote back and I said, look, how about coming on the program and in public, agreeing to The conditions of a test, to which he responded he would not do that, that because at that point he had been offered a CNN series along with myself, with a possibility of one.
He thought that would spoil or dilute the possibility of that.
And he just flat refused to come on the air and to this day refuses to come on the air with you to set up the conditions of a test.
So I thought we'd relate this and throw out the challenge.
Once again, James, there it is.
All you've got to do is come on a short amount of time along with Ed, and we will set up the conditions for a test, and Ed will have a million dollars.
I actually got the title, that appellation, before I was training officer in the remote viewing unit, I was a targeting officer at very high levels of intelligence at the Office of Secretary of Defense, where I selected particular targets and put and engineered intelligence collections operations against them.
I used the nascent remote viewing program to help break the back of the Soviet biochemical warfare program.
We used it to get clues or cues to cross-cue other intelligence systems to be able to discern what facilities were actually producing specific toxic agents, those kinds of things.
So when I walked into the old executive office building in the White House to brief, I brought those kinds of results with me.
And they were very unsavory all the time.
I wasn't just talking about mega-tonnage and throw weights of missiles and MERVs.
I was talking about the various ways that you can kill a person using biological warfare.
I was a biological warfare officer.
And those were really, really unsavory.
And some of the staff officers in the White House were very squeamish.
And here I thought it was the civilian work you've done and that work you've done on my program that got you that, but not so, huh?
No.
All right.
I could sit here and tick off the present environmental problems that we have that are beginning to mount in an incredible way.
I mean, in the Antarctic, we have simple-celled microorganisms now beginning to show genetic changes, really incredibly dangerous because of the ultraviolet.
We have children in Australia required to wear hats every single day.
We have a new little organism off the east coast, which began in the estuaries of North Carolina called Physteria, which has now spread to the oceans and literally millions and millions of fish, and this is not an exaggeration.
Crabs, other sea creatures are showing these lesions, bleeding, open sores.
It's spreading up and down the east coast.
It's real right now.
The officials in North Carolina and elsewhere don't want to talk about it, of course, because it would affect tourism.
But we have had good scientific proof that this is going on.
Frogs with as many as 11 legs from here to Japan to Canada, on and on and on and on.
By this time next year, we will be in the midst of a global economic collapse that will be facilitated by just this type of thing, by weather and disease.
alright arm on a previous program you mentioned that there was something that came from comet hail bop that was a cylinder leave a cylinder or a cylindrical object uh... that we call an artificial component that detached that detached and uh... was headed toward earth Can you tell us any and that had in it a plant pathogen?
If there are children in the room, tune out or get them out of the room one.
Back to Ed in a moment.
Here's a fact from Darryl, and I agree.
Art, I always listen very carefully to this man.
I too have reviewed his credentials carefully, and indeed they and he are impressive.
In my opinion, he is a professional all the way.
He is and always will be a member of the intelligence community.
I say this with admiration and respect.
I further believe what he does say about any classified subjects are things that he is permitted to say.
He is not telling tales out of school.
He knows what the consequences are for himself and those he cares about if he does not.
He is also loyal.
Therefore, what he says and does not say is extremely revealing.
This is why I listened very carefully to him for content and attended emotional expression, and that is why I have appreciated transcripts of these interviews that you have provided in the past.
Ed Dames is a no-nonsense kind of guy.
If anyone doubts this, I suggest they look at his history.
He is the genuine article.
That's Daryl in Los Angeles.
And I agree with that, Ed.
You know, a lot of people twist or mishear what you say and will send me faxes later.
That's a big problem.
No matter how carefully you say something, they take it out of context and come raging back at you, shouting fraud or something, because they didn't quite hear what you said correctly.
All right, everybody's going to want to know then if that is the big one and it is.
And I know that SciTech actually at some point stopped work on nearly every other project you were doing for a long, long time and went to work on this, didn't you?
I mean, you've talked of men actually having to go underground, live underground, come out at night only, growing crops in a new and special way, and so forth and so on.
Can you yet see past this time to when a new dawn arrives?
In fact, we're dealing with that in Project Starman.
And other than Starman and our technical support on teaching the public these skills, we have dropped almost all of our other projects except for spot reports on this artificial component that detached from Halbot.
That's why I just said that that frees us up to look at these kinds of things like the March event in Phoenix.
All that we have done in the past since 1989 when I founded the company has really very much led in two directions to educating the public, to providing the public with the same tools that we use, that I use, and Project Starman.
Project Starman involves contact with another race.
And this has been a proprietary project for a long time.
And I've decided to talk about it tonight.
Even some of my employees have not heard what I'm going to say tonight.
It really began in about 1992 when I realized that we could use technical remote viewing to discern the methods and devices that would be required to attract another race and to initiate contact, perhaps.
And so we began to use our tools to investigate this.
Let me back up for a moment.
This began as what we call a topical search.
All ideas and things exist as a pattern of information in the collective unconscious.
And this collective unconscious is fed or exists as a field that surrounds all humanoid life, not just us here on Earth.
And so we're able to go into that and look to see, and to make a long story short, we can discern what other races use to communicate amongst themselves and how contact is initiated from race to race.
Carl Sagan, to whom the movie was dedicated, one of the last papers that he co-authored before his death was a paper called Scintillation-Induced Intermittency in SETI.
It's not just that, but they're subject to scintillation, to fading.
You're a ham radio operator, so you're patently familiar with the effect.
Sure.
That microwave radiation fades in and out.
And Carl Sagan, when he co-authored this paper, he realized that this is a great problem.
That you could have a signal that's here one moment and gone the next and never realized that that might be a steady extraterrestrial intelligence signal.
Interesting you should mention that because I believe, Ed, that it is absolutely correct that SETI has detected, I don't know, two or three dozen signals at various times that it thought might have been of a not natural origin, but they were unable to hold on to them.
Well, I think they have been pretty well stuck in the 2 gigahertz to 4 gigahertz range.
Generally, it's thought around 2,100 2.1 gigs, somewhere in there, I forget, where they thought it would be the most logical frequency that could be heard from another distant galaxy or whatever planet.
I think a good question to ask would be, who are we?
That would be a good question also.
Arthur C. Clarke, by the way, is really a firm believer that we're in using lasers to communicate, and that is probably the way that advanced races, at least in the intermediate stages of evolution, are communicating.
There are ways to bypass space-time.
But let's stick with the laser idea right here.
What SciTech is doing is something very revolutionary.
We are building a facility.
We're actually going to transmit a signal, a laser signal.
So it takes a very, very minimal amount of power to do that.
But it's a way to attract attention.
And it's a way to convince another race that we've finally figured it out, that we know they're there, and we know how to communicate effectively with them.
So this signal beacon is what we're building.
So the most exciting thing that I've ever dealt with, except for technical remote viewing.
It's not the motivation, but it is being used to finance that site, yes.
We'd rather do that than we have a lot of people who want to be patron saints and want to support us financially, but we've decided to go it on our own to maintain control.
The last time I was involved in a SETI-type program, it was a proprietary contract and I was not allowed to talk about it.
I never want that to happen again.
I might as well be back in the intelligence community.
Are there dangers inherent in what you're trying to do?
In other words, can you be certain?
Has TRV told you that anything about these beings, anything about them at all, that would make you feel comfortable in that contact, or will there be some unsure part of it?
One of the things, the most remarkable things I've ever seen in my whole life, Ed, are the crop circle formations that we're beginning to get this year.
They are just absolutely astounding.
And I don't know if you've done any work with them or they have any meaning or relationship to what we're talking about right now.
But when we come back, I want to ask you about them.
And so we shall do that.
And yes, we will get phone lines open.
My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
I'm Art Bell.
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and yes phones coming up probably we will begin calls at the bottom of the hour I want to ask Ed, though, about crop circles.
I don't know if it's anything that you have investigated, but each year the crop circles are becoming more in their number and more complicated in their construction.
They're absolutely remarkable, as a matter of fact, and I wonder if you have anything to offer with regard to what they might be.
If you possess the ability, a capability to move in time, and you're interested in returning to the same point in time again and again, or to directing someone else there, if you're traveling in time, you need an apparatus to measure where you are in a general way.
And one of the ways that other races do that, and that we will do in the future, is to lock on to extragalactic or intergalactic time standards, very large pulsars or quasars, whose signals are predictably changing or degrading over millennia or eons of time.
So you know when you come to a stop, generally where you are.
That's good enough to get you within a ballpark of, oh, let's say maybe 20 or 30 years nominally.
But you don't know what day it is.
And so a really good way to know what day it is is to take a little tool, about a half a meter in diameter, that looks like a blue sphere to us, and to send it down there and in a way that technically if we'd like to get into it, we could talk about.
Have it create a very unique mark and embed that mark in short-lived perishable medium.
A fresh crop circle on that particular day in time is registered to that day.
The geometry and the location of the crop circle is registered in a central registry so that others or yourself that go back in time and want to find a specific day look for the crop circle that was registered on that day in that area so you know where you are along a Z axis, along the fourth dimensional axis.
The marks are made in sort of geographic belts which serve as benchmark regions for essentially global cultural change.
And the reason you're seeing more of them is because something there's in terms of a trajectory, let's look at cultural trajectories, the velocity of change in a culture.
Dear Art, CIA announces that one half of the UFOs reported in the 50s and 60s were really U-2s or Blackbird spy planes.
Their reports stated these planes operate at heights of 10 to 15 miles.
Apparently, CIA agents are aliens that can see better than any human.
No human can detect aircraft the size of these types or spy planes at 10 miles altitude, let alone 15.
The fingers they're pointing, rather they're putting in the collapsing dam of secrecy are a special sign language for them with comments such as these.
They are pulling the secrecy dam down themselves, and perhaps this is the real story.
Well, just on a factual note, we know that you can see obviously an aircraft at 10 or 15 miles high.
The sun is shining off of it, or it's cold up there and it's producing a contrail.
So what they're doing now, I think they're just under a lot of pressure from a lot of political types to come up with some answers.
But you're not going to be able to get contemporary intelligence because the intelligence that's gleaned that might register a real UFO, not from around here, is gleaned from devices that are very secret.
Ground has just been broken for a $1.2 billion facility that is going to house the world's largest laser.
The 192-beam laser is going to be built at the Department of Energy's Lawrence Livermore National Labs in Northern California.
The National Ignition Facility is a centerpiece of the stockpile stewardship and management program to maintain the U.S. nuclear arsenal without nuclear testing.
Can or will you tell us who and or what is initiating this earth, quote, clean up or clean out process, end quote, as per the cylinder and for what reasons?
For people who have not received the tape that they ordered and paid for, and there are a few of those out there, then they should call our headquarters at ARICO 310-310-657-657-9829-9829.
From the time somebody now orders, it's fair to ask, because of the difficulty in the past, when, let's say I order today, when will I anticipate getting the tape?
It was five business days as of yesterday, but now that FedEx has picked up our orders and they're, of course, weighted down by picking up UPS problems.
I'm not actually sure.
All I know is that it was five business days until this morning.
Now FedEx has our orders.
We pay more for that.
And that's all I can tell you.
So we're probably looking at maybe a week to a week and a half at this juncture.
And people that are on our website and in our chat rooms, they're forming groups of their own and beginning to look at certain classes of targets, even in the beginning stages.
And I'm wondering where this is going in the future.
And again, I'll tell the audience, I have Ed's Module 1, and it is one of the best produced tapes I've ever seen.
The production values in it are absolutely superb.
They really are, folks, superb.
Now, that's from me.
Ed, a lot of people say, well, he's blowing out TRV, and he's going to take the money and run to the Pacific somewhere, which actually is exactly what you're going to do, right?
You're born with the potential, but it is an ability.
And SciTech's not going anywhere now that we're always in cyberspace.
My vice president and employees right now are in one of our chat rooms or two of our chat rooms providing technical support as we speak to people who have purchased Module 1.
And that's the way it will always be.
I'm in that site at least twice a day answering very technical questions.
Could you then look at a period of time where there was a benchmark event, let's say, in the coming problems we're going to have with the ozone, and look at a benchmark point and then reference Art Bell?
and uh... what would you say to people out there who doubt this uh... who doubt now there's a lot of people who don't think They think this is New Age goobledy-gop.
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It's as old as man, and it's new because we've forgotten, and now we're again learning.
I really thank you for coming on at this late hour.
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And I would just like to say, in closing, I'd say to, on behalf of our world anyway, thanks to Ed and Jilli and all of the SciTech staff for bringing this great skill into the population.
These are the ideas that are embedded in the collective unconscious.
Associated with 666 is money.
Associated with the mark of the beast are animal parts in human bodies, essentially xenotransplants, a whole new industry, which is a very interesting thing.
And I'd like to really have a private discussion with Father Martin about this, because what that means is the potential for people with a lot of money to buy cows' hearts or a pig's bladder or things like that to replace, as your parts wear out, our natural parts, to replace them with the parts of beasts, and thereby rendering you immortal.
And so your soul is trapped in this body, which is slowly but surely becoming more beast-like.
And you are really, you gain immortality, and your soul is trapped here on terra firma.
And I'm not so certain that that's allowable in the grand scheme of things.
Then more recently, we had the introduction of the human or part of the human genome into a cloned animal.
And they showed a photograph of this lamb with a human gene.
And what they are suggesting is exactly what you're talking about, that it may be possible in the future to make animal organs, because of genetics, compatible with human beings so that, as you point out, we can use animal organs.
A field effect that exists in all of us, as opposed to something else termed in modern Christianity the false prophet.
Now, this is still in progress.
It's very scary.
Like I say, I don't scare easily, but this one, this idea, is sort of the cutting edge, the manifestation of the idea of the Antichrist in flesh and blood.
A person, but not really a person.
It looks like a person.
I'm using the word it because I don't know what to call this.
When we run that term as a topic, we get sort of a field effect that exists everywhere.
But when we run, when we attack the topical term called the false prophet, we get a physical, I'll call it a person for now, a physical person and an individual.
It's really an entity that's masquerading as a person.
And this, if remote viewing does nothing else except track and identify and maintain track of this false prophet, then it's accomplished its goal because this is a scary thing.
And we're working on that now to see where it is in time and when it will manifest itself here in physical form.
How locked in stone are the events that we're talking about?
Have you yet determined whether there are various timelines and various possibilities for the future, or at some point do things become locked in, or, Ed, are things always locked in?
So that when we know, for instance, next spring, for instance, we know that the hurricane season on the American East Coast, the North American East Coast, will be absolutely devastating.
We know that that's followed by the next milestone.
And then when we see the next milestone, we know what's after that.
So although we cannot discern chronological periods, we can discern the milestones that bracket events that way.
What effect having so many remote viewers out there, just guess for me.
I'm really, really curious.
I mean, here you will have people roaming at will, not a few as there once were with the military program, or even quite a few as there may be now, but perhaps even millions, ultimately, certainly hundreds of thousands at the very least with this ability.
How might that affect events that seem to be coming?
Could remote viewing, in other words, actually begin to change it will in terms of because we have a grander vision and we have almost more dimensions that we can look at, we have more room to move and to maneuver.
First of all, put simply, Ed, if an individual, for example, was able to look ahead in time and see that an 18-wheeler was going to squish him into roadkill, he'd be sure and stay out of the way of an 18-wheeler at the appropriate point.
So if mankind, hundreds of thousands or even millions of people, began to see what was coming, they'd get out of the way of the 18-wheeler, wouldn't they?
Well, first of all, what's going to happen is people are going, this is going to do an end run around Orthodox science.
You're going to have a lot of people out there who are demonstrating every day and many times a day that this is real, that they just found something they were looking for, whether it's the Lost Dutchman mine or a missing brooch or whatever, over and over again.
And science is going to be forced to look at this.
There are elements of science that are looking at it now.
As you know, we train scientists and engineers.
But Orthodox mainstream science is going to be forced to stand up and take note.
And then culturally, something is going to happen.
Off-limits or sacred or however you want to call it.
Maybe, or we might not have the hardware or the software, might not have the brain power or the programming yet to be able to discern the forms and the natures of these kinds of events.
Ed, do you ever wonder, Ed, what your students do after they've gone, or do they pretty much stay in touch, or do they venture out on their own like this?
And someone called in and they asked if God could have populated this planet, is it possible for Satan to have populated other planets?
And he said yes.
And then eventually he said that it was safe to say aliens and UFOs and that kind of thing from other planets was demonic in origin.
Having said that, I kind of feel like maybe some of what Ed is doing, especially most recently with the laser and contacting, I'm afraid that some of that may be influenced by evil.
I think the Catholic Church would agree with you, and one of their catechisms about 15 years ago is certainly pointing in that direction.
I have some personal opinions along those lines.
But yes, there's many people, particularly Catholics, that really are spooked by technical remote viewing because of catechisms that the church has put out.
Most of what you are describing as remote viewing, I apparently have been doing all my life.
And not having as much control, obviously, but having the ability to cross into certain boundaries both between what we call extraterrestrials and spiritual building, spiritual-related beings and time, both forward and backward.
I guess my interest here is seeing whether or not I can make contact with Ed in particular and what he thinks of the possibility that beings coming into physical form with inherent abilities and code signatures that they don't necessarily understand
I've never needed it as an intelligence collection tool was the consistency to be able to use this ability in life or death situations or where a deadly force was to be employed, unfortunately.
And the natural abilities, untrained, were slip-sliding around and not and hit and miss.
Especially apparent was that the naturals, people with natural ability, the greats, did not know when they were on target and they did not know when they were off.
So the information was still waiting for Japan to sink.
Yeah, I wanted to ask you, Mr. Actually, Major Danier, a question here.
I've pretty much followed your show, your art, here, for about a past year.
Matter of fact, it's my birthday tonight, or actually this morning here, and this is the first time being able to get a hold of you for over 12 months.
Ed, if they had your modules, if somebody had all your modules, which of course they can't right now, but let's say they did, and they wanted to sit down and begin to acquire the skills, how long would it take the average person?
And the robotics capable of mimicking human movement.
Would it be possible that the combination of those two could come together into embodiment of what could be considered an Antichrist or the false prophet?
In terms of artificial intelligence and robotics, and there is a sentient machine over the horizon, and it has the characteristics of, generally speaking, a sort of a loyal patient guard dog type of a feel to it.
And that's the only thing we've really been able to roll up against in the future in terms of artificial intelligence.
The only things that we've run into, and I hope I don't lose some tape sales on this one, the only thing that we know of that can effectively block or edit our information is angels.
The things that we have seen, although we cannot perceive their form, we know that there are intelligences that are present as entities in this space where we're at when we remote view.
And having studied those over the years, they fit the definition that the church fathers have given to angels.
And so we call them angels.
They appear to fit the description in every way, the classical description.
Well, I don't know what they look like yet, but we're going to take, we're going to make sure that you and your listeners who are interested understand that the specific photo that is generally agreed to be representative of that event is what our target is.
And then we go into the Matrix, the collective unconscious.
I was wondering concerning the Americas, both North and South America, if there are any areas or regions that you would consider safe zones, or perhaps you would consider them more suitable to human survival in light of the upcoming events.
If we go back a year to when we did the very first program you and I did, the alarm bells are going off because I remember you're saying exactly that same thing that long ago, a year ago.
I remember the question about safe zones, and you identified one just exactly where you said it was just now.
And for all intents and purposes, it's alien because we don't have the technological base to even understand the material science, much less the physics and the electronics.
I'd rather sit down with them and have a tape-to-tape and ask them those questions than try to sit down.
Honestly, that's one of the reasons why Starman exists, is to do just that.
Instead of trying to use remote viewing, because it is a lot of work to do this to discern all of their cultural background, their history, and those kinds of things.
Very confusing growing up, you know, predicting things and stuff like that.
There was one time I predicted my father's best friend's death.
That was about the age of 12.
As far as remote viewing and stuff goes, though, I mean, I've been trying, I'm 27 now, I've been trying to pile this together.
And as far as remote viewing goes and looking in time and stuff, I've been experimenting with sending messages back to myself.
Really?
Yeah.
And I've had some very interesting results.
I've been trying to win the lottery, of course.
Lots of good points.
Well, I mean, that's the first thing you do, right?
Sure.
And some of the results I'm having is instead of trying to send back digits that doesn't seem to work very well, I try to maybe get the lottery card, fill out the little black dots, and then try to send back the pattern of the dots.
And for people like me and who don't understand what it's like to grow up and have natural talent, life can be very scary indeed because you're perceiving a lot more information that you can't form fit into any knowns.
Now, he just sort of touched on it a little bit, but one would presume that you could look ahead at the stock market and make general determinations about whether the present 8,000 plus or 8,200, whatever it is, right?