Art Bell highlights the 1997 UPS strike’s threat to small businesses, then dismisses Soviet "woodpecker" radar theories for climate chaos, citing red tides, fish kills, and extreme weather. He explores Bigfoot sightings in Florida’s Big Cypress Preserve—eyewitness accounts, a 13.5-inch primate track, and government helicopters—while testing a "fidget" time-travel device sent by Mr. Fidget. Callers link the March 1997 Phoenix lights to Vatican activity and speculate on asteroid risks like Gabriel’s Fist (summer 1998), though Bell remains skeptical. The episode blends economic warnings, paranormal claims, and environmental concerns, suggesting systemic vulnerabilities—from unions to cosmic threats—demand urgent attention. [Automatically generated summary]
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Following up on last night's program first, the AF of L CIO is offering millions of dollars to help Teamsters on strike against UPS.
The announcement by the Federation of Unions came Tuesday, the ninth day of the dispute between largest U.S. package delivery company and the Teamsters.
UPS also standing firm, taking out newspaper ads, telling its side of the story, and declaring the strike could cost the union about 15,000 jobs.
Labor Secretary Alexis Herman says she plans to have another round of contacts with both sides tomorrow.
So, there it is, and I think we had a good definitive look at both sides of it last night.
And my conclusion, if you didn't stay up late enough to hear what I concluded, is as follows.
A lot of small business is beginning to have trouble, serious trouble.
If the strike continues, aside for a moment, the issues between UPS and the union, a lot of small business is going to die.
It's going to go away.
And it really is worthy of recalling that small business is the backbone of America.
It makes up the very largest part of the economy.
Not the Fortune 500, not the Dow, but small business is the great lion's share of the economy, and it is what's being hurt.
And I personally know several business people who are beginning to hurt seriously.
So, I think it is an overriding economic national issue that needs to be settled.
The president saw fit to step into the middle of the baseball strike, and he damn well, Mr. President, had better see fit to step into this one soon.
I think that right now the issues, you know, having listened to both sides very carefully last night, are intractable right now, and what is in the immediate future is a fairly long-term strike.
I don't think small business can take it, which is saying I don't think America can take it, which is saying that I think the president needs to step in soon.
And, of course, UPS is losing probably a couple of hundred million dollars a day, big money.
I don't know how long it can sustain that.
They're a pretty healthy company, but that's a lot of money.
The union, I think if the strike goes on, also stands to lose.
And if I were counseling those in the union, I would say, be careful, guys.
Because if this strike goes on, one of several things will begin to occur.
One, people are going to start crossing the picket lines, resigning their union membership and crossing picket lines.
And frankly, it could result in sort of the union's last stand.
Unions have been declining in popularity in America.
And if the union loses this one, which they would if people began crossing the picket lines or UPS just said, that's it, you're out and we're hiring new people.
If any of that occurred, ultimately the union would lose.
And I don't think unionism in America can stand to lose another big one.
And so that would be just about it.
So I see nothing but bad things happening if this strike continues.
For the good of the country, for the good of the unions, for the good of UPS, for the good of small business, it is time for the president to step in, in my opinion.
And that and probably about 50 cents to a dollar these days will get you a cup of coffee.
But that's the way I view it.
I think the issues are intractable.
I don't think there's going to be an early settlement, and no settlement or a long-term strike bodes ill for everybody concerned.
So I would just like to see at this point a breathing time.
A time when the union can go away and think about it.
The workers can go back to work.
Business can begin again as usual.
And UPS can recoup some of the business which it is by the day losing to other carriers.
Good big long 90-day breathing period.
That's what I think we need.
And on that note, I'm going to end my comments on the UPS Strike 4 tonight.
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You all know about that probably to the point of nausea by now.
But I found out earlier today that at Walden Books, it is now nationwide the number two, the second most requested book at bookstores.
And they've sold out of another printing and they're going into, I think, a third or fourth printing.
I don't know by now.
But it's selling like crazy.
And so thank you.
There is a reason it's selling like crazy.
And the reason is that it's accurate.
The quickening, in a nutshell, says that in every single area of human endeavor, socially, politically, environmentally, we could really tick them all economically.
I mean, we could just go through every area of human endeavor.
There is no longer any question about it.
Events are accelerating at an exponential rate.
We are headed toward an event.
This is not an end-o-the-world kind of story because I don't think the world is going to end.
But make no mistake about it, we are headed toward an event.
Things are changing quickly.
And in The Quickening, there is documentation.
It's not a science fiction story.
We wrote little bits of fiction to illustrate in each chapter generally.
I tried to give you an idea of where I thought this particular aspect of the quickening was going.
And so there is fiction to that degree.
But the book then will document present events.
Painstakingly, I documented these events.
That at the time I wrote the book, I felt and I knew were true.
Now these events are upon us.
And I think people instinctually know that what I'm saying is true.
A lot of people used to say, well, you know, it's the media, all this information we can get and everything.
And it just seems like things are quickening.
So that is what birthed that book.
The proof that what I'm telling you is true.
I got earlier today a fax from the White House.
How about that, huh?
From the White House.
And I followed up on their request.
And I think that we're going to have the president or the vice president on the program.
And the subject is going to be global climate change.
Now my background is pretty much libertarian.
Conservative, libertarian, some social issues, fairly liberal.
You know, I'm a real mix-up.
But there's one thing I'm not mixed up about, and that is that the weather is changing.
Now, I know I've beat this one into the ground with you, and I told you there were increasing quickening weather changes that are upon us.
And so tonight I want to talk to you a little bit about that.
And also, probably, I don't know, when I decide to do it, there was a report by Linda Moulton Howe on a very well-documented Bigfoot incident in Florida.
There is a photograph associated with this.
Actually, there were about seven, seven reliable witnesses to this Bigfoot thing in Florida.
It ran in the Naples newspaper.
Couldn't get the photograph.
Finally got it.
Got it, got it, got it.
It is not particularly definitive, but you know what?
You would not imagine it to be.
And for a change, I don't want you to go look at the photograph yet.
First, I want you to hear the story.
The one thing I've always thought about, and this is, you know, I believe there is a Bigfoot or a creature of the sort out there.
But I never did believe that anybody could get right up to Bigfoot and take a photograph, you know, showing details of Bigfoot's face and all the rest of it.
I sure as hell wouldn't do it.
Would you?
Something not human?
Not an ape, something, well, we don't know what Bigfoot is, but I know this.
I'd be going the other way.
And this picture does not definitively well show Bigfoot.
It shows a creature tall, erect, and hairy.
It shows the back of it, and you've got to look carefully to see it in the photograph.
But when taken with the eyewitness testimony, then it's very impressive.
And so when I decide here, I'm going to play that.
Runs about, oh, a half-hour segment, I would say.
Interviews with people that saw what's in this photograph.
So we'll do that.
But first, the weather.
Just going to read you a few different things that I've got.
Dear Art from Carl writing from Bakersfield, California.
Co-worker just came back from a couple of weeks vacationing at Morrow Bay, California.
She says there was a terrible red tide, and the shoreline was littered with dead lobsters and crab.
Also, the water temperature was unusually warm.
She saw at least 50 dead lobsters along the beach, and flocks of seagulls were going nuts, eating the dead and dying shellfish.
She said the stench from the debris was sickening and unbearable.
The fish kill going on in the North Carolina estuaries and now as far north as Maryland is horrendous.
Millions of fish are dying.
Phisteria is the thought cause And otherwise known as the cell from hell, one that activates when sufficient quantities of pollution reach it.
It lies dormant until that time, but then it begins to kill.
Or this, Art, you have undoubtedly heard, and I bet you saw footage on CNN of the one and one-half feet of falling hail, hail falling in the metro Denver area.
And I really should have covered this last night, but I was so deeply involved in UPS thing that I didn't.
Even in the Andes in Peru, survivors of a snowstorm that killed six people and trapped thousands of drivers high in the Peruvian Andes for three days finally began to reach safety on Monday, according to authorities.
Soldiers found the bodies of six people, including three infants, who froze to death in their trapped cars.
The storm began to abate finally on Sunday, allowing traffic to reach those towns.
One, let's see, about three feet, three feet, three feet of snow.
They go on in here.
This is a Reuters news story.
Weather changes caused by the El Niño current warming surface waters off the Pacific have resulted in unusually cold temperatures this year in the Andes mountain range.
They would never normally get such a horrible snowstorm.
In Peru, in August, so I'm telling you, the weather is changing.
Art, I heard you on the air, another facts here, speaking with a caller from Texas who reported unusually strong winds.
Some days earlier, on August 7th, 1997, my weather monitoring equipment recorded two very strong wind readings.
The first of a gust of 137 miles per hour at 0601 hours, 601 in the morning.
The second of 90 miles an hour at 0700.
Now I've got a pretty sophisticated piece of equipment I'm sure you're familiar with, the Davis Weather Instruments Weather Monitor 2.
Not only am I familiar with it, my friend, but I've got it myself.
It has the capability of tracking all the unusual atmospheric conditions.
And this is tied by Davis's WeatherLink software to my computer.
My readings have always been very accurate.
When I saw these two particular readings, I thought it couldn't possibly be right.
So I erased them from the computer memory so as not to skew the averages.
Perhaps a bird, I thought, had brushed quickly by my wind speed monitor.
Perhaps my neighbor was shooting at the wind cups with a pellet gun, though there is no evidence of the misses on the side of my house.
I really had thought the readings were just a weird anomaly until I heard a call from that guy in Texas.
Thought you'd be interested in the coincidence.
And I now wish I had not erased those readings.
Nick, I've got his last name, but I won't give it here.
Thank you, Nick.
Yes, I would suggest to you the readings are accurate.
We've had many reports of this kind of wind in Texas.
Now, I've got a little more to say about this.
And be finally, what I've been saying about the weather has broken into the mainstream media.
And I'll recite the basics of the NBC report about global weather changing in a moment.
I'm glad to see they're finally beginning to cover it.
Bottom of the hour, when we come back, I'm going to finish up what I want to say about the weather and a little bit on tap water and more on the quickening, and then we'll open the lines and see where we're going tonight.
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Is this a push by those in the one-world government?
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I definitely think so.
If we had something like a collapse in the economy or the dollar should have closed, and there's already so much violence in mayhem, if we have social unrest, they want to be able to gather people up very quickly because the world is coming undone.
They want to be able to implement law like a third world country gone mad.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 12, 1997.
Now, NBC, lo and behold, finally, Tom Brokaw and company.
So maybe now the rest of the country are going to believe it.
They did an extended segment on Monday night on the changing weather.
Their opening comments were, everywhere you look, violent weather.
Denver, slammed with violent weather, hail, inch and a half, whatever it was, Germany, flooding, the worst flooding in 600 years in Germany.
Hurricanes that literally develop off the coast of Texas or anywhere else overnight.
There's a typhoon now churning its way through the Pacific with 200 mile-an-hour gusts.
Class 5.
In the last century, according to NBC, the temperature, the ocean temperature, is up 1.8 degrees.
Sea levels are up one full foot.
Global warming?
I don't know.
I don't know.
They're doing some undersea coring right now.
And that means they punch something down below the seabed and they pull up a core.
And from that, geologists try to discern what the weather has been like in the last 10 million years.
They don't know and I don't know whether what we are now headed toward is a cyclical change or a human-driven change, but we better find out because the only thing that's for sure true is that the weather is changing and rapidly.
Don't ask me how I knew before it began.
I just knew it was coming.
We've had a very well, I live in the desert, so I can only judge where I am, but it's already beginning to cool off now.
As a matter of fact, it's getting downright cool at night, and if, you know, summer here in the desert came very late, and if it goes away very early, I'm going to be concerned.
Migratory patterns for birds are changing.
Migratory patterns for tropical fish are moving into the North Atlantic.
The fish and crab kills are occurring by the millions.
I'm telling you, I'm telling you that what I wrote about in The Quickening, which I suggest you get and read, is upon us.
I repeat, is upon us now.
So I think I want to talk about that a little bit.
And we are going to get Bigfoot in, I don't know, when it feels appropriate.
So I'm going to begin answering calls now, and you can talk about anything you want.
And so the end result for all of us is going to be a big change.
People may be skiing in Florida before it's all over.
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Yeah, yeah, I don't doubt that.
Yeah, no, I agree with you there.
If you want to look, though, now, I know the woodpecker thing is you don't see her here there anymore.
But if you want to see the signature that it's leaving in the atmosphere, look at the clouds and you will see what it looks like, rib cages or like somebody could run a comb through the clouds.
I'm not sure it matters whether it's a man-made change or just an earth change.
It's one of them.
It's one of them.
But the fact that it's occurring, I think, is now beyond debate.
Anyway, as I said earlier, I talked to the White House earlier in the day.
They actually faxed me.
And I told them that I would like to have either the president or the vice president on with reference to this subject, and they indicated that that would be possible.
So, you know, watch for that to occur.
I don't know when.
And I'm not.
I am not a crazed environmentalist.
I just see what is real and what is in front of me, and I can clearly see this is so.
I don't know why, but I know it is so.
I know we are in the throes of a change that is going to be, at least for us, you know, we're mortal beings.
We have very short lives on Earth cosmically.
We are but a blink.
It's going to be very serious for us and for our children.
The United Nations is about the most inefficient, ridiculous little organization that barely usually can't control little tiny third world nations at all, much less take control of the world.
Look, I've got a go, but I'm glad to interview him.
I wouldn't challenge it, and I wouldn't challenge your faith.
So I don't worship Mother Earth as an idol, but I respect this earth we're on, and I recognize the fact that we are not treating it very well.
Or, sir, are you trying to really say that your God allows you to do that?
And if you want to ravage the earth for what it's worth and what you can get, and that's what your God tells you is okay to do, then you go right ahead.
If you have the circles at the ends as gyroscopes and have those spinning very quickly, spin the whole thing very fast like you would a propeller blade.
If you've ever seen the astronauts when they play with water in space, the way it forms into a circle?
Yes?
Yes.
If you have them play with a pyramid in space, you will find that rather than if you like hang a pin from a string and then aim it towards the water mass, it'll aim towards the center.
On a pyramid, it'll aim right towards the tip, right where the eye would be on the Delga belt.
And if you take one of those little gyroscopes that they have that float on magnets in midair, and put that in the middle of a pyramid like that, and think of the pyramid as a coil in a radio.
Oh, we got to see it here, and it was beautiful last night at about, well, when I, my wife sat out there for, actually laid out there for two hours last night.
It was pretty cold and watched.
And then I went out after 3 o'clock after the program ended out here, and it was spectacular.
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That is really cool.
Yeah.
I was looking out and watching, and I was watching a few satellites go by.
I was watching one in particular.
And it was going along, and I was following it, and all of a sudden it got really bright, and it almost looked like it was shining a light down on me.
And that flipped me out.
So I call the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, and he says it was probably a booster rocket or something with a flat side that had a real reflective size.
I see them about an hour or so before dawn because these are polar orbiters and they generally are 200 or 300 miles, not very high, and so they don't manage to catch the sun until the sun is beginning to look as you're getting toward the terminator.
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Okay, then what is it that I see speeding by?
Spaceships.
Spaceships?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And my comment.
I sent the facts a while back about the Hanford here and the water.
There is, by the way, from the Environmental Working Group, if you want to believe it, They say that hundreds of communities in the Midwest are drinking a chemical soup.
From Maryland to Nebraska, your tap water consists of a chemical soup.
And it may not be too good for you, they say.
May be carcinogenic, they say.
The EPA, you will be pleased to know, will soon decide exactly how much weed killer, weed killer, it is safe to drink in your tap water.
What do you think are the permissible amounts of weed killer to drink for a human being?
We've had various programs, people monitoring magnetic north.
And there have been, I don't know, four or five times a year now, it seems, there will be eight degree and greater deviations for a short time from magnetic north, or where magnetic north is, and that would indicate a kind of a wobbling going on.
It seems to return, but that's what I know.
I know that there is a deviation from time to time because we've had readings all across the continent.
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Okay.
The second and the third question.
Second question I've heard on the Prophecy Club all this week and last week.
Somebody was saying, one of the guests was saying that September 12th this year marks the 2000th birthday of Christ.
And he said that signs in the stars mean something.
I don't know what it is.
It also has to do with Israel, biblical prophecy.
There's something tremendous.
I don't know if that would be part of the quickening.
And the third question is that about a week ago on a local talk show, some guest was claiming that the Apollo missions were not really missions to the moon at all, that we did not land on the moon.
And he cited many examples.
And I wonder if you've ever heard of anything that this kind of could be.
You know, what it is, I think, that was so funny about that is that, you know, a person of your high stature that could actually do something kind of...
At midnight tonight, I'm going to replay a very special segment by Linda Moulton Howe.
In that segment, you're going to hear several witnesses, seven.
Actually, there were a total seven, you'll hear from some, who saw a Bigfoot.
We have the photograph in question.
By itself, it doesn't mean much.
With what you're going to hear, it means a great deal.
That occurred on Dreamland Sunday, and I'm going to repeat it, I think, after midnight.
That's when I've pretty well decided I'm going to do it.
I could do it now, but I might as well wait about a half hour.
Because I want to talk with more of you about this weather change.
And I have one other thing that I want to mention here in a moment.
First, though, it's back to Vincent in Chicago.
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Yeah, Art, I'd like to speech about the March 13th lights in Phoenix incident.
Sure, sure.
You know, a few things about that that really piqued my interest is how the media just picked up on that, you know, like three months later when Richard Hoagland was talking about the incident.
Just one quick thing that I think I want to mention.
In a bunch of newspaper articles and television pieces about me, people have made reference in sometimes very kind terms and sometimes very unkind terms about the fact that I live in a mobile home.
Well, it is a mobile home, but it's not.
It's a gigantic one.
It's big double-wide and the construction is all wood, you know, like a conventional home.
And I own geometros.
You know, small little geometros.
And I don't intend to change that.
And I am really surprised at the snobbishly elitish attitude expressed by a lot of people when you say mobile home.
This home that I'm in is manufactured by a company called Nashua.
And it was built in the state of Idaho by American workers.
And let me tell you something about this home.
It would be as good here, it would be as good in Fairbanks, Alaska, as it is here.
The insulation is superior.
The Heat loss problems or cooling capability is far superior than an average home.
It's built very well, and I don't intend to change that.
Though I may be making more money, I have no desire to live anywhere else.
I am exactly where I want to be.
So those elitist snobs who take great pleasure at poking fun or ridicule at me because of where I live can stick it in their ear.
But in all likelihood, it's the wires that are going to your speakers.
And you might try a capacitor across the speakers.
That will take care, or even better yet, you can go to a radio shack or wherever and buy a little filter and put that in between the speaker and the wire going to the stereo.
And if that's the way it's getting in there, that will eliminate it.
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But it was what it was was I was picking it up on my tape deck when I had my microphone on.
Well, Hailbob was supposed to drop that off not too long ago, according to what they call the Vatican papers that you had on your website not too long ago.
Well, let me tell you, Art, I FedEx or, pardon me, postal overnighted the package to you with five of the most amazing objects you will ever set eyes on.
I sent you five different models, of which if you are to show one on the internet through your camera there, I'd prefer you just show the simplest one and keep the other ones in your treasure trove.
Indeed, forward and potentially backwards, although I've never met anybody that could give me conclusive evidence, but there have been many claims, as you've heard on the air.
Well, what happened, and I mean, I told the story in brief the other night, and I don't expect you to give me that much time again, although I would be happy to be a guest at some point.
It was a fluke accident.
My bike chain broke.
I put the new chain on.
I had a couple extra links because the chain was too long.
I put the links in my pocket.
I went to a meeting.
I sat in the meeting.
I was bored.
I pulled the three links of chain out of my pocket and started playing with them, examining Einstein's law of cause and effect.
And then I attached them on both sides of a one-inch keyring, and it created this device that just goes back and forth through the hoop.
And it's like the ultimate hoop jumping device.
And immediately, within seconds of putting it together, the guy next to me in the meeting said, hey, what do you got there?
And I handed it to him.
And he said, hey, this is great.
I'm trying to quit smoking.
Can I have this, please?
I said, sure.
So I gave it to him.
And my life has been a blur ever since then, Mr. Bell.
Anytime I meet an international traveler, if I can't convince them to make a donation to my cause for a fidget, I will absolutely give them one for free.
Because this is a thing that does not care where you come from or what language you speak.
And we need more things like that.
We need things where people have something simple in common as opposed to something that's, as you were saying, elitist and pretentious.
Just like, in order to be successful, you have to have a Mercedes-Benz.
Your geo gets you there.
And the joy of life is the journey, not the destination, because as soon as you get to the destination, you have to pick another journey, buddy, right?
One thing, this is kind of a neat way to look at it, I think.
I am going to create a for-profit company, Art, that makes and sells fidgets, except I'm not going to have anything to do with it because I'm a creative genius type, as people say.
I mean, that's not my own appraisal.
That's what other people say, and I have no choice but to fall into that role.
So I'm going to let the widget manufacturing go to the person who can make a reasonable way to do it.
And I prefer you didn't put that on the internet unless we discuss it.
But it just says pretty much what happened there.
And all of the aliens in this whole comic book that you'll see there are fictitious to the best of my nature or knowledge.
There are aliens that serve as the mentor explaining the fidget like we're on a guided tour because surely if there's a more intelligent life in the universe, they have to understand fidgets, you know?
Tomorrow, by 2 o'clock, you will have your fidget.
And I sent it so that you won't have to sign for the package.
They'll just put it in your P.O. box, and you'll have it.
One other thing I wanted to say, which is an answer to a question that you asked me, is about the money aspect, is that I'm going to create a non-profit foundation called Cyclical Process Technology.
I was thinking as I was listening to your show tonight that this was a historic night because this would be the last night that the last broadcast that Art did not know what a fidget was exactly.
Well, I love your show, Art, and I love your matter-of-fact manner of dealing with people, and I appreciate the fact that you've given me this time again.
And I just want to find a forum that works for people to discuss and deal with these objects.
And I come from a severely traumatic background.
No need to go into that, but the reality is at this point, it's more than any one person can do.
And until people step up to the plate and recognize that I've discovered something, I'm not an inventor, Art Bell.
Actually, I've got a report for you submitted by Linda Molenhow this last Sunday on Dreamland.
This is a very serious report about Bigfoot, and there are many witnesses.
Now, a lot of people stuff their nose in the air when they hear about Bigfoot, not because of the potential odor, but because they don't believe.
Well, what I suggest to you is cuddling up near the radio and listening very closely to the report that's going to be coming up in a few moments.
Further, there will be a mention in this piece of a Naples, Florida photograph of what they think is Bigfoot.
And while the photograph is very indistinct, not good, and at a distance, I happen to believe this one is genuine, and I'll tell you why.
I tend to doubt the ones that show Bigfoot close up, you know, where you see the wrinkles in his little wrinkled Bigfoot ape-like face.
I don't believe those because I wouldn't take a picture like that.
I'd be running like hell, and so would you.
And this photograph shows a definite furry creature in the forest moving away.
That much you can see, and it doesn't mean much without the story that you're about to hear.
But I'm going to reference you to my website here shortly, which is www.artbell.com.
You want to go up there.
If you can't go up there, then you want to get Web TV.
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Is this a push by those in the one world government?
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I definitely think so.
If we had something like a collapse in the economy or the dollars should implode, and there's already so much violence and mayhem, if we have social unrest, they want to be able to gather people up very quickly because the world is coming undone.
They want to be able to implement laws like a third-world country gone mad.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 12th, 1997.
In the meantime, Art, says the innkeeper, who is not a prophet, why aren't you talking about the seven asteroids that are going to be crossing Earth's orbit?
Well, we can talk about that as Ken from Colorado.
There are seven asteroids they are discovering now on a daily basis just about new asteroids that cross our path.
One of these days, one of them is going to hit us.
CNN is doing a special tomorrow night that looks pretty interesting on the subject.
And I'm going to be watching that.
I think it airs at about, I'm not really sure about this, but I think it's around 7 o'clock Pacific time.
You know, check your guides.
I'm pretty sure it's CNN, not QB.
I think it's CNN.
And I'm looking forward to it.
There are asteroids out there, big ones.
And one of these days, one of them is going to cross our path, or we will cross its path, depending on your point of view, at the wrong time.
And what a surprise it will be.
And I'm sure they'll be holding hearings afterwards.
I can almost close my eyes and I can visualize the Senate hearings.
There will be people from observatories and the government coming in front of committees grilled as to why we didn't have any warning, why we didn't know an asteroid was going to hit us until it did.
And they will fidget about trying to come up with reasonable answers.
But, you know, a big chunk of the planet is going to be gone by then.
Then, of course, they'll put something in place to look for these things.
I think, you know, I think that the president has so many things or people looking at him, you know, with the sex scandal and the money and this white water that I think he's going to wait to the last minute and try to save the day and try to win back some popularity.
What I do care about is his intervening in this strike before one of two things happen.
Either a lot of small American business goes out of business, we're on the verge of that now, or UPS gets damaged beyond recovery, or the union itself gets damaged because workers begin crossing picket lines, the union dissolves, and that'll be harmful to the union.
So before any of that happens, everybody better step back, take a good deep breath, and rest for about 90 days.
And to me, that means the president damn well better step in soon.
I don't worship the earth, but I'm respectful of it, and it's going to kick our butts if we keep treating it this way.
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Okay, another thing, a little off the line on that.
Talking about Linda Howes, I'm anxiously waiting to hear her Bigfoot thing.
Yes.
Did she happen to mention to you about a guy in Pennsylvania that woke up one morning and called her because he had a triangle with a line underneath of his triangle with a line underneath of it burnt into his thumbs?
Well, I'll tell you what, I sent her a tape, and I talked with her at length on it.
And the thing that was, you know, what is shocking was when the thing appeared on my right hand, or just below the first knuckle on the thumb, I didn't really pay too much attention to it.
I thought, well, okay, no big deal.
I must have injured it somehow.
Well, three days later, the exact same mere image appeared on my left thumb.
If I can find somebody who's capable of doing that, that would be kind of a kick, wouldn't it?
Hello, Art.
When I saw the movie Contact today, what an eye-opener.
The first scene that started from an Earth sunrise and traveled out to who knows where in the vast universe, the scene evoked such an emotional response in me, I just wasn't ready for it.
I'm a tugboat captain in Louisiana, and I've been entertained by you for several years since you've been down here on this, and then between the New Orleans and Baton Rouge Harbor.
Well, when you were talking earlier about the EPA and making its comment about they're going to make a ruling on how much water we're going to be able to drink in Louisiana.
No, how much weed killer is fit for human consumption.
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Right.
Too bad they don't have that same little analogy on how much it's going to take for the fish to survive.
Of course, you know that Louisiana is probably one of the areas in the world where we have some of the largest fish kills.
We've got a little over a couple of thousand square miles of dead zones.
And it's phenomenal that the number of fish and the oxygen being depleted from the water down there, it's just getting larger and larger, larger and larger every year.
Yeah, I don't mean to slam Louisiana, but this is an Associated Press list of the tenants.
That's absolutely correct.
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We live in a section, at least I operate in a section of what they call the Cancer Corridor.
And it's, you know, it's not a day that goes by that you can't smell some notorious chemical being discharged from some of the smokestacks around.
But besides that, with the floods and everything that comes year-round, this past year was one of the greatest floods that I can remember.
The waters were so high and they stayed for so long.
It's just going to be interesting to see how long the Corps of Engineers were able to build and construct these levees that contain the Mississippi, how long it's going to be before they start depleting at a rapid rate and maybe causing some major catastrophes down here in this area.
There is another thing I would think you would be very concerned about this year, or I would be concerned for you, and that is hurricanes.
I don't think it's going to be a good year for hurricanes in the Gulf.
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The people in New Orleans are quite scared, to be perfectly honest with you, and they don't really talk very much about it because New Orleans being a crescent city, if you will, hinges between Lake Pontrain and, of course, the Mississippi River.
If there would ever be a storm that would verge, make its way into Lake Bourne, the Wrigley's area, and enter into Lake Pontrain.
Not only would it probably cause a tidal surge that would probably just devastate the city, the number of lives is, you know, it's just phenomenal.
I couldn't even contemplate putting a figure on it.
There's no evacuation route out of New Orleans except for Interstate 10.
You know, I'm going down to New Orleans right around the 14th or something of September or somewhere to the NAB convention, and it'll be the first time I've ever visited New Orleans.
I'm really looking forward to it, but that'll be right in the middle of the hurricane season.
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Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, if you ever take a walk out on the river and you see these big white boats rolling around shoving grain barges, you know, there might be one of us.
All right, from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, with a very, very serious report this evening regarding the ongoing phisteria problem and more, here is Linda Moulton Howe.
Linda, welcome to the program.
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Hi, Art.
Hi.
Well, the fish kills by the Physteria dinoflagellate organism that I've been reporting about this summer in North Carolina have now apparently extended to the Pocomoke River in Maryland, which if you'll recall last week and the week before when I was interviewing Dr. Joanne Burkholder and others, they were afraid that this was going to happen.
Millions of fish have been dying in North Carolina rivers over the last three weeks, and now last Wednesday and Thursday in Maryland, thousands of dead fish with bleeding round lesions were found along a five-mile stretch of the lower Pocomoke River near Shelltown, Maryland.
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Officials closed the Maryland waterway to swimmers and fishermen and have gathered fish and water samples to send to Dr. Joanne Burkholder in North Carolina and another research lab in Florida.
Ten people who recently swam or fished in the Pocomoke have reported flu-like symptoms and open lesions on their bodies.
The physteria organism has also been identified in Virginia Rivers and officials in that state have been asked to close the extreme eastern side of the river near the Pocomoke Sound in Virginia.
And I'm going to keep updating that story, but my feature story tonight is the mystery of a tall primate-looking creature reported by several people near Ochipee, Florida in the Big Cypress National Preserve in the Everglades at the end half of July.
This is in an area near Ochipee, Florida in what is called the Big Cypress National Preserve.
It's a big swampy area, as people who've been there know.
And one witness who actually took a photograph of the Bigfoot creature was Vince Dorr.
He is a respected fire chief in Ochipee.
He's worked there for 20 years.
Mr. Dorr's photograph can be seen on the Naples Daily News internet website at www.naplesnews.com.
It is a blow-up from his long photograph.
He did a Zoom on this creature.
Now, Mr. Dorr, like many other eyewitnesses, prefers to caution that the sighting could be someone dressed up in a gorilla costume.
However, when you listen to what the eyewitnesses say, it's hard to imagine anyone being able to survive such a costume in 100-degree heat and three feet of swamp water all day with mosquitoes for several days in July.
One of the tour guide eyewitnesses was Steve Goodbread, who works for Pelican Tours in the Everglades.
Around the same day in July that Vince Dorr took his photograph, Steve had 12 tourists in his van on Turner River Road at about 2.15 in the afternoon when the tourists spotted a tall primate creature.
This is Steve Goodbread.
The people that were on the tour just happened to say, well, what's that?
And I'm looking somewhere else.
And I'm like, well, what does it look like?
Because I can't.
And there's 12 sets of eyes looking all different directions.
Right.
That's a wood.
Something big and black.
That's what?
Called the bear.
We do have black bear down here, and I'm going to tell them about black bears.
They get to be about 250 pounds and whatever.
And a few seconds went by, and they're like, they got real hysterical.
No, no, no, it's not, you know, what is that?
It doesn't look like a bear.
So I kind of tried to get a better look.
But I was looking across the canal and through the bushes of this thing, where some of the other tour guides actually got to see it on their side of the road.
The day I thought it was not in clear view with me.
And I couldn't really tell what it was.
I couldn't tell if it was looking at me or looking away or whatever.
It wasn't that close, but I just know it was big, black.
Seemed to be hairy and seemed to be thrown on its two legs.
But I could tell what size it was because looking through the trees.
It appeared to be something around six foot tall.
And I can probably say it definitely was not a bear, but it didn't have movement like a bear.
How did it move?
More or less side to side.
It wasn't, I couldn't see it really take steps and walk, but it was moving back and forth through the bushes.
There was a little bit of a clearing.
We could kind of make out something a little bit, but most of the time it was behind enough bushes where I couldn't see the whole thing.
And how long was it in view?
We probably sat there, well, probably, it seemed like forever, but probably five minutes.
Okay.
And in those five minutes, did anybody in the group try to go closer?
No, I couldn't get anybody to get out of the van.
I didn't have a camera with me.
And the people that were there had a camera.
And I tried to get them to at least open the door and step out and get a photograph.
They wouldn't do it.
And then when I went to open my door, they're all screaming at me, don't open the door, don't open the door.
They were all terrified, I guess.
But nobody, nobody, well, we would have had to cross the canal.
There was no, where we were, there was no bridge.
There was nothing, no way to cross.
So there wouldn't have been any way to get any closer.
And nor the, you know, when you see something, you don't know what it is, the best thing to do is not to go closer.
Well, you've been in this country for 42 years of your life.
Intuitively, at your gut level, did you feel that you were looking at something that was some sort of a separate kind of creature?
When I was initially sitting there, I was in awe of what was over there.
I didn't think about it being something phony.
It didn't appear to be phony.
It appeared to be something over there.
Unique.
Something I couldn't explain.
And I was just as much anaught as everybody else.
I was kind of peeking over there, trying to figure out what it was.
And I guess if I would have thought about it being somebody over there trying to play a prank, I might have tried to get over there and stop it.
Because I don't want my tour operation to get into any type of deal like that.
Nor do I want anybody else down there playing jokes on us that are going down there.
But my intuition was that it was real.
Okay.
Whatever it was.
Another tour guide, Dal Rowland of Everglade Day Safari, had four adults and two boys in his van when they saw a primate creature three times.
Dal Rowland.
The eight-year-old shouts, Bigfoot, Bigfoot.
I guess it's seen on TV or something.
Anyhow, we turned and looked in the direction he was looking, and about 100 yards up the road at the edge of the brush, out in your outside, next to the road, was Bigfoot.
And that's what it looked like.
What were you seeing in terms of height and color and so forth?
Well, it was very, at that distance, it was very dark, hairy creature, around six feet tall.
Could it have been seven or eight feet tall?
I doubt it.
Okay.
So from your perspective, it was about six feet tall.
Yes, ma'am.
And was it standing, moving?
It was standing looking in our direction, then it looked in the opposite direction, and it looked at us again and then ran into the swamp.
And when it ran, how did it run?
Kind of loped or a long gate.
And when it turned to you a couple of times, could you see anything about its eyes or facial features?
No.
But we drove further up the road to get closer to it because by this time I wanted to be sure what I was looking at and the people did and so forth.
So we drove on up about half the distance again and it came out again at about 150 feet.
And this time I could see the face and the front of the body and the back as it turned around.
And the hair was long dark brown hair, very full hair on the head, the neck, the arms, even hanging down from the arms.
And the chest was covered with hair.
The face seemed to be clear.
And it looked like a gorilla.
And about how long do you think the seven of you got to see it total front?
Probably three or four seconds.
Well, that's a good long time.
And then what did it do then?
It turned around and ran back into the swamp.
And did you get out and look to see if there were tracks there?
I drove up to where it went into the swamp and took out my camera.
By this time, I was, I had forgot about the camera, looking at the creature, of course.
When you're surprised like that, you don't do what you would expect you might do.
Anyhow, I got out of the vehicle and went into the swamp where he had gone with my camera.
I have a 300 millimeter lens on a Nikon.
And I couldn't see it.
And I didn't see any tracks.
It was real brushy.
And I stood around in the swamp for a little bit, hoping to get a shot of it with the camera.
And the mosquitoes were so bad, I just couldn't bear it.
And so I got out of there and got back in the van and waited a while and nothing happened.
It didn't come back out.
And then I drove off.
And I got up the road about a quarter of a mile and looked in the rearview mirror and there it was again.
Standing alongside the road.
Then the end of July, David Sheeley, owner of the Florida Panther Gift Shop in Big Cypress Trail Lakes Campground, found two large 13 and a half inch long primate looking tracks and made plaster repairs casts of them.
And he found a chunk of reddish brown hair on a tree.
He talked about these discoveries on a Fort Myers, Florida radio station around July 29th.
This is what David Sheeley in Ochapee, Florida said happened next.
I came home from a radio station, this one in Fort Myers, and it's about 9.30 at night.
I'm sitting in my house.
I get a knock on my door and there's two guys standing there dressed in black.
And it's dark and they got on sunglasses.
And I'm thinking, oh my God, what's going on?
Normally out here, it's either a friend or somebody who's in trouble, but I knew this was different.
They came in, they asked me my name, they came into my house, they pulled out some kind of ID, and they said they were there to get the tracks and the hair.
Well, I had left the tracks in my truck and it was raining.
And I didn't tell them that.
But they said, well, what about the hair?
Well, I look over at the table because the hair is sitting there in the open.
And then they look over at it and I said, well, it's right here.
I mean, it was too late by then.
And then the one pulls open his jacket.
He grabs the hair out of my hand, pulls open his jacket.
When he opens his jacket, I notice he's got on a big, like a belt with all kinds of bullets and clips and stuff.
I'm not saying he had bullets.
I'm saying it looked like it.
There were like cart like canisters on his belt.
Definitely armed in some way.
He was equipped.
I don't know if you'd call it armed or not.
He was equipped.
And as he opened up his jacket and took the hair, what did he do with the hair?
About halfway from his waist to his underarm, inside of his jacket, he had a long slit, and it was like a pocket.
And it kind of just fell open when he opened his jacket and he stuck it right in that pocket.
Okay.
And then what happened?
What was said?
They said, we're going to have this analyzed, and then we're going to come back and talk to you.
And then they just turned around and walked out of my house.
Did you go to the door to see what kind of vehicle they might have gotten in?
I saw exactly what kind of car they were driving.
After I heard him go out, I heard the car door close.
I stuck my head out the door and looked.
And it was a black Lexus or a Mercedes, kind of a sporty-looking car.
And what was unusual about it was it had like a long, like a CB whip, the kind of big antenna with a spring on it attached to the bumper.
And it was pulled over the cab of the car and appeared to be like tied on the front bumper or something.
Okay, did the men who showed you the ID, when you looked at the ID, did you recognize any of the words on it in terms of an agency?
It all looked official to me.
The one had like a badge in his wallet and the other one had a card.
And up in the left-hand top corner, there was a red square.
How big was the square?
I'm sorry, it wasn't the left-hand corner, it was the right-hand corner.
Okay, how big was the square, and what color would it be compared to something I might know?
Right red.
Like a tomato?
Yeah.
And how big would that red square be?
I would imagine it was anywhere, it was about a half an inch square.
One half inch square.
Now, what else was on that card?
It was a picture.
It was a picture of a guy, but the guy in the picture didn't have on glasses.
And it had some writing underneath of it, some writing underneath of it.
And there may have been some kind of seal, like kind of in it somehow, some kind of like a seal with a picture kind of on the seal.
Did either one of them say to you as they showed you identification, we are from?
No.
They said that they had questions they wanted to ask me.
Well, that's not the end of it because about three days after that happened, they got all these helicopters flying around here at 3 o'clock in the morning over where the sightings were.
And they hovered in one spot behind my campground for 45 minutes with their lights on the ground.
Would you please go back to the night of Friday, August 1st, start with exactly what started, how it happened.
Tell me everything that you saw and heard.
12 o'clock at night.
Midnight.
Midnight.
I'm laying in bed, and I started hearing choppers at a distance.
Well, that's not unusual really to hear a chopper, but it's unusual to hear one flying low.
And I knew it was flying low because I could hear the blades ricocheting off of the swamp.
Like boom, like that.
So about 2 o'clock, I tried to go back to sleep, but it just kept getting louder and louder.
Well, when I went and looked in my yard, I could see that it was probably between six or eight helicopters a mile and a half north of my campground in the area where they had been having these sightings.
Of this Bigfoot creature.
So I watched for a little bit and I went back inside.
All I could see were lights moving around, like spotlights, searchlights.
So I laid back down and they keep getting closer.
And the next thing I know, they were north of me.
Then they're down further in the swamp to the east of me.
And at 3 o'clock, they were south of my place, about a mile and a half.
And at that point, at 3 o'clock, when I walked out on my back porch and looked out there, all of a sudden they all came together and they put their lights down on the ground and they hovered.
And I figured they had spotted something.
But they hovered there.
It was incredible.
They hovered stationary for 45 minutes.
And Arthur, I asked him what happened.
He said that the helicopters then cut off their searchlights, flew away in the distance.
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And I asked him if he was able to go to that area where they converged.
He said it is impossible.
It's all government property.
The government has restricted the use of airboats even there.
The only way people can get in is to walk, and there's three feet of water, and nobody can get there.
A lot of people say it's a lot of things, but those who know Bigfoot say that's what you just heard.
And I've talked to a lot of experts about that, believe me.
All right, here's what I've got to say.
Now, listen to me carefully.
On my website, you will find a picture, the one Linda referred to.
It is not in itself convincing.
But what convinces me that this might, it shows an erect, very brown, hairy something walking away or strolling away or sidestepping away, whatever.
I tend to believe it because it is that far away, and that's the only way I'd take a photograph.
I can tell you that right now, the only way I'd take a photograph.
Otherwise, there's no way.
Confronted either with what was described by those witnesses or confronted by the sound you just heard in the middle of the forest, I don't mind telling you that I would be long gone on my way home, taking the shortest way home I could find.
Feet get me out of here, that kind of thing.
And that's why I tend to believe it.
But if you'll go up on my website, you'll be able to see the photograph that was taken.
It's all, of course, at www.artbell.com.
Take a look.
Let me know what you think.
Well, not definitive, right?
But if you add to it what you just heard, the eyewitness testimony, then you begin to build a case that there is a creature out there that we don't know about.
Does that make sense to you?
It does to me.
Paranormal?
Missing link?
I don't know.
But something's out there.
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That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 12th of August, 1997.
hmm listen here Actually, this is probably a very good way to lead into this.
Somebody just sent me this facts.
Hey, Art.
Damn, that earlier fax stole my thunder.
You look great on TV last night.
You look like an intellectual, interesting man, about town or trailer.
World-traveled guy concerned about the fate of man.
How'd you pull it off?
We, those who have been with you for years, Tesla types, know you for what you really are, an insane lunatic.
Now I hear that you might have the President of the United States or the Vice President on your show.
Please, Art.
Don't lower your standards.
We still care about you.
Don't sell out.
Get a grip.
Well, I lost it.
You know, I got a fax and it was really a cool fax, too, to me.
It had a big White House on the front of it.
Kind of was impressive.
You know, how often do you get faxes from the White House?
So I lost it.
Now, the reason I want to have one of them on is because I'm real serious about this quickening thing.
I'm really serious about this weather thing.
And you know what?
It really doesn't much matter, in my opinion, whether it's global warming, which I know drives a lot of people to destruction, or a cyclical change that is normal, whether it's being generated by man or simply observed by man.
Either way, it's important.
It's going to change our lives.
The weather, I am convinced, is changing and not for the better, and I don't know for how long.
I guess it is important to know if we are doing it.
Either way, these are the people that will form policy or try to help form policy on a big scale.
And so I really would like to interview the president or the vice president on this particular subject.
I know it's real political because a lot of people think it's the end of industry.
It's the end of capitalism.
It's the end of automobiles.
Oh my God, it's the end of all we love.
Well, I don't know.
But we better find answers because it's hard to drive around in 150 below zero with little oxygen.
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I get lots of emails from people who say, you're a liberal because you did that or you had that guest on.
And then the next day I might have somebody who's a right winger on or thinks differently and then I get accused of being that.
I'm none of that, folks.
All I want to do is bring out different views that we either agree with or we don't.
But you get to hear it.
And the fact that we put them on doesn't mean we endorse it at all.
But that's not what the show is.
If you want me to argue with every guest I've ever put on the air, I can do that.
But I'm not going there with this.
I have decided to make this show informational so you can make up your own mind when you hear some.
But I'm not going to muffle somebody because I don't agree with them.
It's not going to happen.
Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you run from it.
Nobody learns anything that way.
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This is sent to me by Lee of Como Country, KOMO, of course, in Seattle.
Now, this is no doubt not true, but I'll read it to you anyway.
Gabriel's Fist, asteroid from Pegasus.
Listen to this now.
This information, Lee says, is from a shortwave broadcast called Blueprint for Survival.
And it said, astrophysicists from the Navy and FEMA are tracking an asteroid originating from Pegasus and due to hit near Japan in the Pacific Ocean during the summer of 1998.
NASA refers to this as Project Approach.
The asteroid is six miles in circumference and looks like a dumbbell, therefore named Gabriel's Fists.
Its size is larger than the one thought to have destroyed the dinosaurs.
Several scientists are having weekly meetings at MIT with other intelligence communities regarding the asteroid and a means to deflect it.
Well, if I were you, I would disregard that until you know more.
But, you know, this is, I've been hearing rumors of this, and it's all over the Internet.
One, five.
One thing that I find very difficult to believe is that they could project where it would hit that far out.
I don't believe that.
As a matter of fact, they've had a hard time predicting where things that are fairly close in are going to hit.
And more times than not, they've been wrong.
It would depend on how it entered the atmosphere.
It would depend on a whole range of things.
You know, the way it physically is configured, how the atmosphere would react to it.
So that causes me to wonder about this report.
And I wonder about this report anyway.
But there will be a show on tonight on CNN.
Can't remember the name of it.
But it's about something like this, and you're going to want to try to catch it.
It's probably on around 7 o'clock.
Check your guides.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Hi, Art.
This is John in Cupertino.
Yes, sir.
I had one question for you.
When you go on your Alaska trip, are you also going to be broadcasting, or do you just take the time off?
I just heard what you were saying about this Gabriel's fist, and I have to concur completely with what you said about the impact area, because it is impossible to track these things.
If we couldn't do Skylab and some of the other things, it fell down more accurately than we did.
Try to think of something that far out.
The number of revolutions, the skip factor in the atmosphere, it's ridiculous.
Well, sometimes these rumors about a lot of things float out there, and I'm learning to kind of double-check these things because it seems as though somebody's out there just trying to stir trouble.
The Navy, you know, where we get our information for our websites for the changes in the temperature and all that, were off the air for three or four days.
And I started getting emails, and I mean, I was aware of it, but people were saying, you know, what's happened?
The Navy's down.
And then they came back on the air, and what they had done is they had changed the way that you look at the world map on their site.
Instead of the center of it being like zero latitude or zero longitude, it moved over to the west about 100 degrees or so.
And the reason was there was so much activity on their charts in the Pacific Ring of Fire that they decided they put that all on the map together instead of splitting it there.
So if you get up to the website, to the Navy's website, I haven't put up the new charts yet.
I'll do it later today.
You'll see what I'm talking about.
They've come back.
They never explained themselves, but they have just now shown the Pacific Ring of Fire, including Japan, whereas before the map was split right down the middle of the Pacific.
I mean, some of the old-timers say they think maybe it's cyclical weather patterns, but we've had tremendous rains and things like that.
And now all of a sudden it's just bright sunny sky just broke out.
And it seems as though what we're getting is weather spinning off of the South Pole.
Some tremendous storms have been evident coming off of the naval satellite photos.
You can see that the low-pressure areas spin off the pole.
And they do this all the time, but there have been some bigger ones that have arms of them have swept up and hit the portion of Australia where we live.
I'm not sure yet what the impact would have been over on the eastern states.
We had a large landslide over a ski slope a couple weeks back, which killed a few folks and trapped a lot of them.
The side of the mountain just slid down over the ski chalet.
And I'm not telling you how to run the conversation, but I would think if we wanted cooperation out of them, if I was talking to them, I'd say something like, all right, look, guys, understandably, if there are certain things that are so disastrous that you can't really come out officially and say it because it may or may not happen, on the off chance that it may happen, XYZ disasters, wouldn't it be advisable to have our population start preparing individually as opposed to state emergency entirely and do what you and I have been doing,
get them to just kind of advise people, easy-like.
That's the wrong way to say it, but I mean, I wouldn't be attacking the vice editor.
I'd say it like that and say, look, I know you've got your job to do, but, you know, is it now about time since we can see a lot of this, or is it truly, just truly cyclic stuff that we haven't seen in 50 or 100 years?
I'd just try an upfront because basically it would mean that people could then stop sitting on a fence with one leg in the disaster is going to kill us camp and the other leg in, well, let's try to make everything like it's going to be happy times.
That's Stan in Perth, Australia, Stan Dale, in Perth, Australia.
And credit where credit is due.
Dan discovered months before scientists here began to even whisper about it, what was going on in the Pacific, the incredible ocean temperatures in the Pacific that we're building and red hotspots, and we were talking about it.
And then it took months.
It took months until the scientists here began to say, oh.
So that's Dan Dale in Perth, Australia.
And that reminds me to promo my international line.
Wherever you are in the world, in Australia, New Zealand, somewhere in Europe, boy, you ought to see all the email.
They listen to me in Europe.
And I want to tell you guys how you can call me toll-free.
You can call toll-free.
I just forget to give out the number because it's not on the number bumper.
So if you're in England or Germany or somewhere in South America, I get email all the time from all over the world.
You guys sitting out there listening on real audio.
You can call me.
Here's how you do it.
And you can do it right now because we're live on the internet.
You call the ATT operator in whatever country you're in.
Say, I want the ATT operator.
When you get her, you say, I would like to call in America 800-893-0903.
Once again, in America, 800-893-0903.
And I promise you, wherever you are, that will be a toll-free call for you.
when you played it you know there is there has been so many things that i have wanted to call you about but this is i've sat here in you know uh punch redow so many times at night listen Listen, can you hold on?
Well, I want to get my interview first, and then they can have them their way with them.
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Is this a push by those in the one world government?
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I definitely think so.
If we had something like a collapse in the economy or the dollar should implode, and there's already so much violence in mayhem, if we have social unrest, they want to be able to gather people up very quickly because the world is coming undone.
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They want to be able to implement law like a third world country gone mad.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 12, 1997.
But I have pegged on your website so many times, and I have a brother who was in Gulf War.
He's sick now.
And I've been to Joyce Riley.
I've listened to Richard C. Holland, Standale, and all these things that these people are talking about, I have been investigating for just about 21 years.
Anyway, I'm also a Teamster, and I wanted to make a comment about your last night's show, if I can.
You may.
Okay.
First thing I wanted to point out was that the middle class of this country just didn't fall out of the sky.
You know, it was built brick by brick, contract by contract, with people having to fight when it came time to fight.
That's right.
If you want to look across the border, it'll tell you what things were like before unions.
So my point is, is that, you know, I have a lot of contempt for people that are wanting to cross the line, especially when you're only talking about the 10th day of a strike.
But I'm getting an email now, and Fax is saying that people are starting to cross lines here in Nevada, up in Sparks and in quite a few different areas now.
I don't know if it's true, but that's what I'm hearing, and that's what I expect.
I'll tell you something.
I know you're the union side, but you know, if this union ends up getting busted, and it might if this goes on for another week, because people are going to start crossing, you know, and then the union's going to fall apart.
If they lose this battle, it's kind of over.
And I would think even the union at this point should be hoping that there'll be some sort of intercession by the president.
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Well, the thing is, the other point I wanted to make is even a lot of people that are not in the union are benefiting from the existence of the union.
Because there's a lot of companies that pay, you know, like between 80, 85% of the union scale because they don't want to deal with the union.
I know.
So the point is, if the union goes down the tubes, everybody's going to take cuts.
I think, though, that if the strike goes on, everybody's going to get hurt.
Everybody.
unidentified
Right.
And another one last comment I wanted to make was it's a tactic of companies to build up their part-time workers, especially ones that do not plan to stay there, because they're not the ones that are going to fight.
Well, I really can't talk a whole lot about this, but I can tell you that In the blink of a Canadian eye, we're going to be heard from coast to coast in Canada.
I've been up all night working on my motorcycle in the garage.
I've spent the last four days troubleshooting an electrical circuit on it.
Yes.
And then in the last 20 minutes, I realized that they built in an anti-step device into the Kawasaki 15 years ago, and there's another switch underneath the seat.
Hello, R. As far as your fidget goes, I'd love to report to see if you meet a panel of people that tell you about the paradox when you go through this time travel.
What would you think if I didn't come on the air tonight and they came and they said, we don't know where Art Bell is, and they ran a repeat?
What would you think?
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Oh, my goodness.
I wouldn't know where to begin to think after all these years of listening to you.
Anything could happen.
but if you know as far as red china's pumping along over not red china but china's pumping along over there while ups is bringing us to a standstill in this country so i'd love to hear from the um i'm not trying to put it that way Look, we're out of time.