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	Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	The night featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 27th, 1997.
	From the high desert in the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning across all these many prolific time zones.
	From the Haitian and Hawaiian island chains in the west, eastward, to the Caribbean and the U.S.
	Virgin Islands, south into South America, north to Santa country and the poles.
	And worldwide on the internet, this is Coast to Coast AM.
	Good morning, I'm Art Bell.
	We're going to venture into the world of reverse speech this morning with David John Oates.
	And we will get to, after a quick review of some NASA reversals, including some new ones you did not hear last time, we'll get to Colonel Haynes.
	Colonel John Haynes.
	The Air Force colonel who gave us what I think is the press conference of the year explaining the Roswell incident.
	I wonder if any of the reversals have anything to do with time compression.
	We'll find out.
	Anyway, David Oates with us this evening for a period of time and then no doubt some open lines ahead.
	And that's kind of what we've got.
	We'll play it fast and loose.
	Oh, by the way, I want to welcome a brand new affiliate.
	It would be KGNB AM.
	New Brownvilles, Texas.
	Well, I hope I'm doing that right.
	New Brownvilles, Texas is what it looks like.
	They're 1420.
	Minor but important differences.
	1420 on the dial.
	A thousand watts of raging Texas power.
	And so, welcome to the network, welcome to the program.
	Glad to add yet another Texas station to the network.
	All right, David Oates.
	Really, let's see, what can I say about David?
	David, I would guess, rose from relative obscurity about, well ask David, I think it was about a year ago I guess our relationship has been going on for about a year and David has himself a speech impediment he stutters a little bit and that more or less led him into a study naturally as you can imagine of language and in the course of that study of language
	He stumbled on a very, very interesting phenomenon called reverse speech.
	Reverse speech would appear, and I'm becoming more convinced the more I listen, would appear to reveal what a person is really thinking when you play, and now this is a very important part, when you play what they have said forward at the precise same speed In reverse.
	The problem for the person being reversed is that it reveals their honest thinking.
	Whether they like it or not.
	And the more emotional they are, the more unguarded they are, the greater the revelations.
	It's kind of like a truth detector.
	Now, we have had a lot of A lot of conversations about the validity of reverse speech.
	And what I want to tell you about is, as I have listened to reverse speech again and again and again, I have become convinced of its validity because of its consistency.
	In other words, you do not get reversals that are not, to use David's good word, congruent You get consistently reversals that are congruent.
	Whether they reveal the person to be telling the truth, or a lie, or simply not knowledgeable on the subject, they are always congruent with the subject being discussed in a forward direction.
	So I have come, personally, to become more and more of a believer in the valid nature of reverse speech.
	A lot of you will have seen the incredible news conference by the Air Force, poor Colonel Haynes sent out there to do his duty for his country and try and tell us about compressed time and the fact that 1947 just wasn't what we think it was and Roswell, you know, a crashed disk, alien bodies and all the rest of it.
	But in fact, we all suffered time compression the colonel's phrase and that uh... all of this really occurred in the fifties and even as late as nineteen sixty all of it didn't go down very well frankly uh... with the public so it's going to be interesting to see the reversals that will be coming up just a moment with reference to last night's program
	I want to let everybody know that the photographs documenting what was said last night about the pyramids and basically in the end after much preliminary discussion it was revealed that there is a secret dig going on in the pyramid from the King's chamber down to the Queen's chamber to gain secret access into a room that is otherwise barred and that this dig could only be going on with the permission of Zahi Hawass who had some sort of confrontation apparently with the Egyptian authorities yesterday well actually today now we don't have news of the result of that yet but what we do have
	is the photographs in question.
	We await Richard Hoagland's captioning of the photograph so we understand exactly what we're seeing but what we appear to be seeing clearly in one case is a security camera turned to the wall instead of where it should be looking during a period of time that a dig is going on that should not be Going on, and we actually have a photograph of what appears to be that tunnel.
	It is quite a remarkable sight.
	All of that now is up on my website.
	So go take a look.
	It's at www.artbell.com.
	That's www.artbell.com.
	And as soon as we get a rendition of the precise explanation of the photographs You will have it.
	All that in mind, coming up in a moment, David Oates.
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	What's going on around this planet right now are people who are just fed up.
	They're fed up with dictatorships, and they've had enough.
	Now the big question is, can it happen here?
	And I think absolutely.
	One day, if we continue to have this spread of the haves and the have-nots, this continuing push for a new world order, it could happen.
	Mark my word, it could happen here too.
	Let's hope not.
	Now, let's go back to the night of June 27, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	All right.
	The NASA gentlemen, uh, representatives that were on my program, We're on for several hours.
	We asked them many, many pointed questions about things we wanted to know about with respect to NASA.
	What Colonel Haynes said, interestingly, winds into a lot of what NASA said.
	So as a setup, we're going to do in a moment some of the NASA reversals as kind of a setup to what's coming with Colonel Haynes.
	But first, let me introduce you to Mr. Reverse Speech, David Oates.
	David, welcome.
	Thank you.
	David, how long has our relationship been going on?
	Do you remember how long ago you first came on the program?
	I think it was the end of July was the first broadcast, if I remember correctly.
	So it's been almost a year.
	Almost a year, I thought so.
	Almost a year.
	In that time, I really have come to I guess become a believer.
	At first a skeptic, but as time has gone on, more and more a believer.
	Well, you know, once you look at all the evidence and hear the reversals and look at the direct relationship they have to the forward dialogue, their grammatical content and linguistic structure, When you add all that up, it just really becomes obvious that you're on to something.
	I mean, you just look at the mathematical odds of it occurring by pure chance, and I mean, I don't know what they would be, but they would be incalculable, I would imagine.
	I'm sure they would.
	Just before the program, we talked about something very interesting, and it brings up the question I want to ask you about reverse speech.
	Now, when I'm on the air, obviously there are seven Deadly words that you really can't use on the radio, or if you do, they're at your own peril.
	Right.
	And bull, blank, blank, blank, blank, is one of those.
	Correct.
	All right.
	Now, when I'm not on the air, I will admit freely that I use language like that occasionally.
	Not all the time, and I think that people who use bad language all the time I do so because they have a deficiency with regard to other words they might substitute that would have just as much impact.
	But I, like other people, I use that kind of language occasionally.
	And so I'm naturally curious, particularly when somebody is emotional, do you frequently get a lot of that kind of language in reverse?
	Well, once again, it varies from person to person.
	Yeah, that language is reasonably common.
	Some people will use it a lot more than others.
	And a person who tends to use it once will use it over and over again.
	And then other people, you won't find it at all.
	It really varies from person to person.
	And each person in reverse speech has their own unique language that they use.
	You know, you can actually, there's been times in my office, for example, where I've, well, particularly after the fire, some of our files got completely scattered all over the place and I would actually pull off some of the, I pulled off some of the transcripts from the floor, they weren't labelled, and I could read down the reversals and tell you who that person was by the language structure that they were using.
	Now, would it be true that if a person occasionally uses invective forward, that it would turn up in reverse?
	Or would you find in a person who never, never in a forward way would use such a language, who in reverse does?
	The latter tends to be more true than the former.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Really?
	Yes.
	It depends on the person.
	A lot of people put on this false front of niceties and sweetness and they control their language very carefully.
	A facade.
	Correct.
	And underneath that there's a volcano brewing ready to explode.
	And you'll hear it in the tone of their voice forward.
	You'll hear this subtle edge, you know, and you'll see it in their body language.
	They'll stiffen up or their skin colour will change and then it's also reflected in the reverse speech.
	But it's very difficult to really give a blanket across the board opinion it's a reverse speech is like forged speech it
	varies from person to person and personality to personality and so forth and a
	you people who are real what Australians would call a troopers who use a lot
	of that language forward would tend to have it in reverse but it it's hard
	to draw an across-the- ballpark on well the reason I ask is because you know so
	much we've done so much on the air and that's one aspect that we really can't
	do on the air so I really have never known how much of that you run into
	Ah, right.
	Well, is this the same amount that I'll run across tonight?
	Well, you know what, actually there is one word that appears over and over again, and that's the classic four letter word that we all know very well, and that one word occurs constantly, quite Well, we can do it this way.
	You can say the S-word, the F-word.
	The F-word is very common.
	Very common.
	Extremely common.
	The S-word is not so common.
	The bull, blank, blank, blank word that I asked you about rarely occurs.
	I've rarely heard that.
	And, of course, it appeared on the Colonel Haynes, which uh... but that
	fairly rare but there the f word is uh... exceptionally common very
	clone very common uh... and that that of course would uh... clearly prevents
	uh... reversals from becoming particularly public at least in a in a
	broadcast medium or a yet you know one of the most amusing or local i have got
	that i just wouldn't have died applied on
	I don't get in the music or songs very often, but Popeye the Sailor Man, the theme song of Popeye the Sailor Man, when you run that in reverse, it says extremely clearly, give me an F.
	Give me an F now.
	Oh, you've got to be kidding.
	Oh, I am serious.
	It is so clear.
	Actually, people can go to my website and download it and listen to it.
	In fact, the whole song backwards is a sexual innuendo towards olive oil.
	Is it really?
	Oh, it really is.
	I found that one back in I must have found that back in the early 80s, 84, 85, when I was doing music.
	I began in music, as you know, and then I moved on to speech fairly quickly.
	And I remember finding that just being absolutely flawed.
	Well, it's the one aspect of reverse speech that I have neglected to ask you about, because I couldn't really deal with it in broadcast other than the way you and I have just dealt with it.
	Right.
	That's very interesting.
	Right.
	Yeah, please go to my website and download Popeye the Sailor Man, and you'll hear a classic example of it.
	Alright, and we can reach that.
	You folks can reach it by, I'm sure, going to my website.
	And we've got a link, of course, to David Oates' Reverse Speech website, so if you have me bookmarked, go there and jump over.
	Otherwise, David, your website is www.
	ReverseSpeech.com.
	Reverse speech in one word or lower case.
	Oh, are you getting a lot of traffic on that website now?
	Yeah, we've actually had 30,000 hits in the last couple of weeks, so that's pretty good.
	That's actually since my broadcast with you last time.
	The traffic increased very substantially.
	So in other words, folks, the ones that we cannot play on the air for you here, you will indeed hear there.
	Oh, most definitely.
	I've got hundreds of reversals on the website.
	It's in real audio format, and you can just click on the icons and listen to them.
	There's some great ones on Clinton using the classic four-letter words.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah.
	Bill Clinton using that kind of language?
	Well, you know... Horror of horrors.
	Horror of horrors.
	I'm not surprised, nor actually am I even shocked.
	Right.
	Is Bill Clinton one of the more congruent or incongruent people that you have ever... Bill Clinton is... The best way to describe Bill Clinton is a split personality.
	He has these two completely different sides to him.
	There is one side of Bill Clinton that's extremely compassionate and caring for the country.
	He has these, this side of his has intense religious reversals.
	He's constantly, he seems to be genuine in his religious beliefs when he's in this mode, and he has some wonderful, eloquent reversals.
	And then he'll switch, and there's this other side of Bill Clinton that shares the living daylights out of me.
	Boy, how can I explain this?
	Not directly.
	He's vicious, quite frankly.
	Vicious.
	I wouldn't want to cross him.
	Look, I think that's true of anybody who becomes president.
	And I really mean that.
	Just about anybody.
	You do not get to become president without a very vicious political and a political and vicious go-together side to you.
	Yeah, there's a whole disturbing thing in Clinton's reversals, and not just Clinton, the whole political scene.
	One of the things I really would like to understand is who is controlling Clinton and the politicians.
	They talk about people above them constantly.
	I'd love to hear reversals.
	Have you ever gone back and done reversals on Richard Nixon during the Watergate era?
	I have done none on Nixon there at all.
	Oh, that would be very interesting, because there was a big period where he was telling great, big, bold ones, you know?
	Anyway, all right, stand by.
	We'll get right back to you, and then we'll get down to business.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from June 27, 1997.
	This is a replay of the song.
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	It looks like there may be a volcano erupting now in the Caribbean.
	an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from June 27, 1997.
	I'm getting a lot of information concerning the Caribbean.
	It looks like there may be a volcano erupting now in the Caribbean.
	If that is so, I would like confirmation of it.
	And so, let me do this as we begin the venture into the world of reverse speech.
	you If you're in the Caribbean right now, St.
	Thomas, somewhere, surely you have information for us about the state of the volcano.
	So, let me hold two lines open for people in the Caribbean while we begin to enter this very unusual world of reverse speech.
	One is our first-time caller line at area code 702-727-1222.
	702-727-1222.
	And the other would be the east way, east of the Rockies line, at 1-800-825-5033.
	1222, 702, 727-1222, and the other would be the east way, east of the Rockies line, at 1-800-825-5033. 1-800-825-5033.
	What about it, folks?
	volcanic action beginning in the Caribbean.
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	What's going on around this planet right now are people who are just fed up.
	They're fed up with dictatorships, and they've had enough.
	Now the big question is, can it happen here?
	And I think absolutely.
	One day, if we continue to have this spread of the haves and the have-nots, this continuing push for a new world order, it could happen.
	Mark my word, it could happen here too.
	Let's hope not.
	Now, let's go back to the night of June 27th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	All right, now, back to David Oates and the world of reverse speech.
	David?
	Yes, sir?
	All right, why don't we give them an example Of reverse speech.
	As a matter of fact, the early examples don't even have to be NASA.
	They can be just a couple of classics, because inevitably I have new affiliates, we're gaining them at a rate that is not to be believed, and there are going to be some people out there who have never in their life heard reverse speech.
	So, a little primer.
	Alright, well actually I'm just moving to a separate file on that one.
	While I'm moving to that, I actually have a fantastic A milestone occurred in the history of reverse speech this year.
	We had our training school approved by the state of California.
	We've got the official verification down today and we are now legally and legitimately recognized as a post-secondary educational institution.
	Mainstream acceptance.
	Legitimized.
	Legitimized.
	And that, with our Department of Labor approval, which we got a few weeks ago, a few months ago, just really puts us in the forefront.
	So I'm very pleased about that.
	And on that note, I just wanted to mention that, and we'll start with a classic reversal of all time.
	I always start my programs with this one, and you know which one I'm going to play.
	Neil Armstrong taking his first steps onto the moon.
	Yes.
	That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
	And obviously a very emotional moment for Neil Armstrong and being with her speech occurs primarily in emotional
	situations.
	It's not surprising to hear a reversal here.
	Then we run it in reverse and he says, man will spacewalk.
	And we'll do it again.
	Clear as can be.
	Clear as day.
	And we'll just run it forwards and immediately reverse it.
	That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, as he steps onto the moon, he's, um, that's, um, that he is obviously thinking we will continue to move forward into space.
	Man will spacewalk, which is indeed exactly what has happened.
	Yes, of course.
	And, um, here's another well-known one that I don't think I've played on your program for a while.
	Um, it's a classic example of reverse speech once again.
	That's obviously a very highly emotional situation, and this is a live commentary of, uh, J.F.K.'
	's assassination in Dallas, Texas.
	And the reversal occurs right at the precise point where he realizes the shooting has occurred.
	Barson Hospital, there has been a shooting. Barson Hospital has been advised to stand by for a severe gunshot wound.
	And the reversal occurs right at the precise point where he realises the shooting has occurred.
	And I'm just going to isolate that section and play that for you now.
	Barson Hospital, there has been a shooting.
	And we run that backwards and he says in reverse, he's shot bad, hold it, try and look up.
	Which is his immediate thought at the time.
	He's been shot, stop everything, look around, where have the shots come from?
	Here we go.
	He's shot bad, hold it, try and look up.
	He's shot bad, hold it, try and look up.
	Sorry, I interrupted you.
	No, no, no, you did not.
	I said, that's absolutely amazing, and that's Again, there could not be a more emotional moment for a reporter.
	And once again, look at the direct, congruent nature there.
	Even that one incident alone, you have to say there's something to this.
	I mean, right at the point that he's shot, we hear this reversal.
	He's shot bad, hold it, try and look up.
	And I presume he's looking around for the shot and he's thinking, Look up.
	Where are they coming from?
	And, um, I'll run that forwards and backwards.
	I mean, just, just a classic, very, very clear reversal.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Um, uh, this is one of my favorites too.
	This is actually me speaking and here, this is me back in the very early days.
	And I think I made this recording back in 87 when I was, uh, We're starting to get into this a little bit deeper.
	I started in 1984, and as you know, I didn't really go public until last year with it.
	And the reason why I didn't go public for so long was because I was just as skeptical as everyone else is when they first started this.
	You know, I'm really just a normal, everyday Aussie from the outback who does everyday standard things, and suddenly I was thrown into this whole new world.
	That's really a good question.
	Did you go through a long period of self-doubt?
	Oh yeah, an extremely long period.
	many years. Obviously I'm asking myself all the questions.
	I've got to be imagining this.
	There's some trick.
	And even when I was documenting all the relationships, my doubt was so strong.
	And I think a very significant turnaround for me was in 1988.
	When I was approached by a psychologist in Adelaide, who, Adelaide is my hometown in Australia, and he offered to do electroencephalograph testing for me.
	Part of my theory or part of what I was documenting was entire conversations backwards.
	Questions asked and answers given and so this man was saying okay well if you're claiming that conversations are occurring in reverse and obviously the mind is hearing and responding and we should be able to track this on electroencephalographs And I won't go into all the details, the experiment will take too long, but essentially we did the test blind.
	He had no idea where the reversals were.
	The people being conducted the test, who had the test conducted on them, had no idea why it was being done.
	And they were played tracks forwards, not backwards.
	And right at the precise point where reversals occurred, there was rapid activity between the left and right brain hemispheres from the moment it started to the moment it finished.
	the actual reversal itself and different parts of the mind were stimulated depending on the
	content of the reversal.
	And I remember when he called me into his office to show me the results and he didn't
	know what I had as well because he didn't want to see my transcripts and I had them
	timed out down to the precise second that they began and finished.
	And I was sitting in his office sweating, you know, perspiration was dripping from me
	because this was one of my key points.
	If we had registrations on an EG, this was an electronic device separate from my own
	ears, then I knew we were on to something and we were.
	And that was a very significant turning point for me and it really, I started doing some
	work for the Australian police in 1988.
	I got an Australian Government grant also in mid 88 that they kept me going to the end of 89 to research this and the work I did with the Australian Police was just stunning.
	There was not a case I worked on where we did not find either, in one case we found the locations of the murder weapons and in another case we found the name of the bank in Branst where the man had hidden funds.
	And it just kept on validating itself like this over and over and over again.
	And finally, I would say I've been probably for three years now at the point of total belief that this is real.
	But that was ten years!
	I'm getting there myself, and the reason is because I have a very critical audience.
	In other words, they will Go away and investigate themselves, and hundreds, maybe thousands of them have, after your programs, gone away and done their own work.
	Right.
	And they come back to me with letters and email and faxes, and they say, oh my god, I tried it myself, and it's true.
	I know.
	I get the same thing.
	I'm amazed no one's discovered this before.
	I mean, I really am.
	I'm constantly surprised that someone hasn't I've spent the time to analyse this before, but you know, I mean, I guess that's human nature.
	What's staring at us right in front of our face, we forget, and some of the most profound discoveries are very, very simple, as is this.
	Anyway, all of that was leading up to the versal I'm just about to play, which is one of the old classics, which I'm sure I've played on your program before, and this is back in 1987.
	And I'm staying forward.
	I've got people coming to me and saying, David, I want to know what's going on inside my head.
	And all I do is play tape backwards.
	I've been suddenly struck to this role where I have people coming to me and saying, David, I want to know what's going on inside my head.
	And I think, bloody hell, you're asking me?
	All I do is play tape backwards, you know?
	Right.
	But I'm starting to get it.
	And the reversal here occurs on the section where I actually, the actual forward words I use is, all I do is play tape backwards.
	And when you reverse those precise words, you hear this very clear backwards phrase that says, look at that, all I am inside.
	Which is exactly what reverse speech is, all that we are inside.
	So here we go.
	Look at that, all I am inside.
	Yep.
	And there's just a little bit of give between the look at that and the all I am.
	About one second of meaningless sound.
	Let's do it one more time.
	And you've got the direct complementary relationship.
	What happens when you play takes backwards?
	You see all that we are inside.
	Sure.
	And reverse speech explains itself very, very well.
	You've just got to look at the reversals and they're extremely clear.
	And my whole approach to this I've really adopted the attitude, probably back in the late 80s, that I don't know anything.
	I don't know anything about the mind, how it works, how it functions.
	But if reverse speech really is the voice of the unconscious, or whatever you call that term, then let it teach me how the mind works and how human behaviour works.
	And that's been my entire approach.
	I've learned everything from what reversals have told me.
	Well, while you are clearly the father of public reverse speech, in talking with Richard Hoagland, he seemed to indicate that he acknowledged that our government, certain agencies in our government, have been utilizing reverse speech for some years.
	And I know you've talked with him.
	Does that make sense to you that quietly, covertly, the way our government does most stuff, it has been utilizing reverse speech?
	Oh, sure.
	I'm convinced they have.
	I have heard consistent rumors myself.
	again, rumours are rumours, but one rumour I've heard from three different sources now,
	two of which I consider to be very reliable sources, claim that there was a joint research
	project conducted in the late 70s between the CIA and the British Secret Service on
	looking at, obviously they didn't call it reverse speech, not that I'm aware of, but
	into backward messages in language.
	And the rumour goes that they actually cracked a major terrorism controversy at the time.
	Really?
	Using reverse speech.
	Someone found, I can't remember the specifics of the story now, but someone found in reverse on one of the suspected terrorists the location of some key device and they cracked the case.
	I've heard that consistently.
	I've heard another rumor from two different sources that a Naval Research Academy located south of San Francisco was using it Also in the late 70s for debriefing POWs, but that's a shady rumor.
	I'm not sure on that one, but yeah, I've heard rumors myself and it would make sense.
	I actually lectured in Washington DC on this in 91 to mid-level reps of some of these agencies.
	It was a four-day workshop I gave there.
	And how did they react to it?
	It was an interesting reaction.
	There seemed to be great They didn't come in with a great deal of skepticism.
	Not that I could tell.
	They came in willing to learn and they got more excited as time went on.
	We were part of the meeting.
	They were going to get in contact with me.
	I sent a lot of my research notes off to one particular agency, which I regret doing now, but I did.
	I never heard back from them.
	The most amazing thing is I actually taped the whole four day meeting and I've still got those audio tapes and so I can verify that this actually did take place and that was in 91 and given the implications of reverse speech and I'm not in the least bit surprised that I will be doing work on it and the last thing that the government would want is the public to know and be aware of this technology.
	Alright, your house was burned down.
	Correct.
	Do you think that your house was burned down as a warning?
	At this late time now, it's been quite a while down the line, what have you concluded about that?
	Well, my final conclusion, and we're still looking at it, but I've pretty well come to the final conclusion that yes, it was burned down as a warning.
	Be very careful, David.
	We finally got the 9-1-1 tapes last week, finally, after waiting two months for them.
	Oh, you did?
	We did.
	And they have been altered.
	I mean, it's an obvious alteration.
	I'm shocked.
	Now, wait a minute.
	This is the 9-1-1 tape.
	This is the 9-1-1 tape.
	Who called 9-1-1?
	Karen, my fiancée.
	Your fiancée called 9-1-1, said something like, oh my God, there's a fire.
	Correct.
	You've got to get over here, whatever she said.
	Correct.
	And altered in what manner?
	The operator told Karen an extremely strange statement.
	She said, well, they will be a while in getting there.
	And Karen said, they'll be a while?
	Our house is on fire.
	You've got to come now.
	And that line was removed.
	Those two sentences were not in the tape that we got back.
	And you can actually hear the background noise shift.
	There's a different You can hear where it's worse, where it's been cut and spliced.
	I was shocked.
	I was horrified.
	I can't believe that someone would go and actually order the 911 tapes themselves.
	We're in the process of filing suit against the fire department.
	They didn't come on scene for 45 minutes, so I don't know whether it's them trying to cover themselves.
	Well, yeah, you could imagine the motivation might be civil litigation, whatever.
	Right.
	But you, doing all the work you have done, you can actually hear the change in the background noise.
	Oh, yes.
	It's extremely obvious.
	It's a very amateurish deletion.
	It hasn't been done well at all.
	I mean, someone with not much technical knowledge did that.
	Quite frankly, it sounds like someone put the pause button on.
	It sounds like I got a tape back that was taped on a very cheap tape recorder, and the pause button was put on and then removed.
	When those two lines were spoken.
	So it was not a high class job.
	And we've actually written back to them and asked for the original tapes.
	We're getting it analysed now just to verify.
	So I don't know.
	I think it was a warning.
	There's no doubt in my mind.
	There's so many strange circumstances surrounding the fire and events following the fire.
	The private investigator who's researching it now says it's probably one of the most bizarre cases that she's ever worked on.
	Have you, since the fire and in your new location, have you received any additional threats?
	You know, phone calls, things you would consider suspicious or worry about?
	Well, our offices were broken into again this week.
	Oh my!
	Yeah, on Wednesday night.
	Someone got into the office and disabled the alarm system and got, actually they went into the counting programs and downloaded the counting files and scrubbed out a couple of clock files.
	I don't know the rhyme or reason behind it.
	You're really living on the edge, aren't you?
	Yeah, I know.
	It's like a conspiracy movie.
	James Bond.
	I don't think there's any conspiracy.
	Alright, hold on.
	We'll get back to you.
	David Oates is my guest.
	I can imagine, though, that if what he is doing is real, he's going to keep getting those kinds of threats or worse.
	Oh well, you only live once.
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	My guest is David Oates, David John Oates.
	Mr. Reverse Speech, and I suspect that's how he'll be remembered.
	And hopefully it'll be a while before we have to remember him as the father of public reverse speech.
	But it doesn't look too good.
	They burned his house down.
	And about a week ago, they broke into his new house.
	As you can imagine, a technology with this sort of potential is dangerous for the author of it.
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	Back to David Oates in a moment.
	We're going to begin with some you've heard and some you have not heard of the NASA reversals.
	Don Savage, Ray Vallard were my guests from NASA for about three hours.
	And there is some new material to be heard.
	And then we are going to move on to the to the incredible news conference
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	Now, let's go back to the night of June 27th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
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	All right.
	Don Savage and Ravel Ard were on my program, one representing NASA, the other representing
	the Hubble Telescope aspect of NASA.
	They spent a good, I think it was a good three hours with me on the air, a very remarkable program.
	Mainly coming on to answer and refute a lot of what Richard Hoagland and others have said about NASA.
	And, of course, in due time, we set our good friend David John Oates, Mr. Reverse Speech, on to looking for reversals in the course of that program.
	And boy, did we ever find some, didn't we, David?
	We found some doozies, Art.
	They were just classic reversals.
	Very clear reversals.
	Very pointed.
	Getting straight to the heart of, obviously, some major cover-ups and other operations going on.
	All right.
	Well then, let's get to it.
	Let's give them the best of NASA.
	Let's get right to it.
	Or the worst of NASA, depending on how you look at it.
	Depending on your point of view.
	Okay, this is the one from Ray Vallard, and he's talking about He's talking about how they select the projects they're going to fund, and he's particularly talking about Hubble in this case, but it's a general discussion of how they choose what they're going to do.
	The selection on who gets to use Hubble is made by committees, peer-reviewed committees of other astronomers who come to Baltimore, meet at the Institute, they sort through the proposals, make their recommendations to our director, And in reverse, we hear him thinking about another project they want to look at, is the way I understand reverse speech, and it says backwards, what's locked up with their starship, this needs to be known.
	What's locked up with their starship, this needs to be known.
	Wow, that's very clear.
	Oh, that's so clear.
	So clear.
	You know, my question is, as I said in your program last time, what starship?
	What are we talking about?
	What's locked up with our starship?
	is right. Excuse me? Play that in reverse one more time regular speed please. Okay.
	What's locked up with a starship needs to be known. You know I have no problem with
	that. What's locked up with a starship this needs to be known. Correct and you can hear
	the emotional expression there too.
	I mean, what's locked up with a starship, it's got this questioning tone to it, and then this needs to be known, a different tone once again, and it's very emphatic.
	That's a statement.
	You can actually hear, there's two statements.
	One, the first one's a question, and the second one's a statement.
	And actually, if I could play it once more, listen to the tone inflection.
	And you can, reversals have that tone.
	What's locked up with a starship is its negative emotions.
	Do you hear those two different expressions there?
	Yes, very clearly.
	Yes, the correct inflection is there in both cases.
	That's really startling.
	Oh yeah, extremely startling.
	I mean, that's the way I would say it.
	This needs to be known.
	It's like they want it out.
	The subconscious mind wants to tell the truth.
	Oh, it absolutely does.
	One of the things I've become firmly convinced of in my many years of work with Reverse Speech is that we are basically, at the core nature of our beings, honest.
	We are essentially honest.
	And the dishonesty that has built into, that has crept into our world over forever, how many centuries it's been going on, is not our natural state of being, and one of the functions of reverse speech is to correct that, to make us honest in spite of ourselves.
	Some researchers claim that part of the reason for dreams is to release emotional feelings and expressions that we don't normally express, and I maintain reverse speech does the same thing.
	It's to release the truth.
	And if we didn't do that, we would psychologically collapse.
	You bet.
	Okay, so let's move on to another reversal.
	This is talking about Hubble Space Telescope looking at Hale-Bopp.
	That's millions of miles away.
	If you do a little geometry, you figure out that that's way below even Hubble's resolution limits.
	And Hubble never truly resolved a nucleus.
	And in reverse, he says, they've known the shield was up.
	And we remember the word shield came up two or three times in this transcript.
	Yeah.
	Remember the shield was up?
	Remember the shield was up?
	And there it is.
	There it is.
	Yeah, there it is.
	The shield was up.
	Boy, it sounds like Star Trek stuff, doesn't it?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's the whole feeling I had when I did this tape.
	And you'd think, that sounds like Star Trek.
	This reversal I'm about to play you now sent me through the roof.
	I'm talking about looking at Venus.
	As I understand it, we did this only once before as an experiment.
	We looked at Venus, which of course is very close to the sun.
	And it just wasn't deemed that important, and also as had been alluded to.
	And a very bizarre reversal.
	There's ships in Eden.
	Buildings and Americans there.
	Very precise statement.
	And one more.
	And I think that one's fairly clear too.
	The American's got a slight tonal glitch on it, but still, what's Eden?
	Buildings that Americans wear.
	I don't claim to have the answers to a lot of these, but clearly there's a lot going on that we don't know anything about.
	Let's look at another classic one.
	He's talking about the probability of life existing.
	Certainly if you do the math.
	The probability is very high, almost 100% that there is life out there, and a very good chance that there's intelligent life somewhere out there.
	That's quite a statement to make.
	And that we have a very simple reversal, which simply says, there is life.
	Yes, that is very clear.
	There is life.
	He's hedging a bit forward.
	He says it's almost 100%.
	In reverse, he just says a very simple statement, there is life.
	There is life.
	There is life.
	I mean, that is such a basic, profound, very profound statement.
	Oh yeah.
	You know, David, how certain are you, this is so profound, so important, how certain are you that that is exactly what he was truly thinking?
	Well, I'm certain that he was thinking it.
	I'm not 100% certain that he was thinking it consciously.
	Sometimes these reversals are coming from just below consciousness and even deeper still.
	Although this is fairly straightforward.
	You can normally tell if it's coming from below consciousness if there's metaphors in their statements and this one does not contain metaphoric context.
	So it's I would say 75-80% possibility he was actually thinking that at the time of speaking.
	There is life.
	There is life.
	Then we have another unusual reversal.
	I do have an interest in outer space, but I'm not an expert in it.
	By any means, and the talk of anti-matter clouds is science fiction to me.
	And here we are, and you actually asking a question about a rumored observation.
	No, actually, it's not a rumored observation.
	Maybe it was then, but we now know they have in fact detected an anti-matter cloud.
	There's no question about it.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, the reversal is certainly very clear that there's no question, but at the time of this interview... That's correct.
	You were saying that it was a rumor?
	That's right.
	We were just getting the reports of it at the time of the interview.
	Oh, wow.
	And when I played this reversal, do you, on the air, do you know back then, do you know whether it had been confirmed then?
	Oh, no, I don't think so.
	I was just getting reports of it and, you know, it's one of those things.
	Okay, well then, listen to this.
	So are you referring to the, uh, what, what some are calling an anti-matter cloud?
	No, that's a different, that's a different thing.
	Now, this was a burst, we think, from very far away.
	And he says in reverse, uh, I'm afraid of that.
	Afraid it's the one.
	Very definitive statement.
	This thing does exist.
	I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, I'm afraid of that, afraid it's the one.
	Afraid it's the one?
	Yeah.
	You know, it speaks for itself.
	Well, there is a lot of thinking, David, that the dinosaurs, the Israeli scientists right now believe the dinosaurs were made extinct not by some sort of K-T event, you know, an asteroid crashing in, but rather Some sort of radiation crashing into the earth.
	So I would understand if that's what he thinks.
	I'll leave it right there.
	Fear.
	He says fear twice.
	I'm afraid of that.
	Afraid it's the one and the statement, it's the one.
	Oh my gosh, is this the one?
	Yes.
	Is it going to do whatever it's going to do?
	There was definite fear in the reversal and it was you presenting it as a rumor, but he obviously knew this was more than a rumor.
	It was real enough to be causing fear.
	Um, and you, another question you asked him was about the conditions of the Mir space station, which as we since know, you probably have a better idea of what's happened since you, than I do, but I believe there's been major disaster there since then.
	Actually, yes, and the situation this night looks to be not good.
	In other words, I have right along thought they were not telling us the full truth about Mir.
	And even now they're finally coming out and admitting the space station was in a tumble attitude for a while.
	Finally they came out and admitted that.
	There's a lot they're not telling us.
	And I thought at the time Mir was not safe.
	And that was confirmed for me.
	Anyway, go ahead.
	What I've heard was they did have a couple of situations of, I think, a leak in a coolant system.
	That's a very amusing reversal.
	He's trying to downplay it forwards, but in reverse he says, shows this old bucket.
	I sure wish to fill a bucket.
	I sure wish to fill a bucket.
	Obviously it's not in good condition.
	I sure wish to fill a bucket.
	Shows this old bucket.
	And I'm just playing some of the highlights here.
	You know, people can go to my website at www.reversespeech.com to hear the entire transcript.
	It's all up there for all to hear, as well as the Roswell Press Conference.
	That's up there as well.
	Which we're going to be getting to very shortly.
	Correct.
	Alright, any other highlights from the NASA?
	Oh, absolutely.
	There's a couple I want to play.
	We'll just pick out a couple here.
	Obviously the space on Mars was a very significant section, so let me play a couple of these.
	Shortly after it got there, when the mapping began that year, Viking Orbiter 1 sent back a picture and somebody noticed it on there and it was kind of a neat thing.
	About the face on Mars, and he's trying to downplay the whole thing, but in reverse, he says, we're involved with Cydonia.
	Very significant reversal, because it mentions the name, and Cydonia is the region where the face on Mars has been seen, and they're obviously heavily involved.
	No, that is so clear, David.
	What are the odds of the word Cydonia coming up.
	It's impossible.
	It's impossible.
	It's astronomical.
	I've never heard Cydonia in reverse, ever.
	Listen, that's just... It's so clear.
	I understand.
	It's so clear that you don't need to slow it up.
	Just give us the reversal again.
	Regular speed.
	Here we go.
	I mean, you know, the we are where involved with Cydonia.
	Grammatically correct sentence makes complete logical sense.
	It's totally congruent with what's being spoken forward.
	I mean, you tell me this is a coincidence or even imagination.
	I mean, that's as plain as day.
	Well, we're all waiting to see if Pathfinder somehow magically ends up at Cydonia instead of the 19.5 degree landing spot they had picked out.
	Anyway, we're involved with Cydonia.
	Give me a break.
	There is no way that cannot be exactly what that man was thinking.
	Is there any other way any of you out there can imagine the word Cydonia could just pop up in reverse?
	Only perhaps in a world where time compression has become a natural fact.
	Right?
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	David, let's do just a few more on NASA that you consider classic, and then we'll move on.
	OK.
	We're still talking about the face on Mars.
	There's two reversals in this section.
	One I didn't play last time, and I'll just lead into it.
	And he's just talking about the face on Mars.
	A feature that looks like a face, I believe, is about a mile across.
	OK.
	And it's way below Hubble's resolution.
	The resolution we have is good for sort of global monitoring of Mars and sort of looking at Mars as a weather satellite to look at Earth.
	And this is one of those reversals that I don't know what it means.
	It's like, it's like, you know, what's locked up with their starship.
	This one says, we're riding a shielded vessel.
	We're riding a shielded vessel.
	Extremely clear.
	That's extremely clear.
	We're riding a shielded vessel.
	Extremely clear.
	Let's do it one more time.
	What shielded vessel?
	How is it shielded?
	Now once again though, I mean here we are talking to guys from NASA.
	We're talking about space and we get a reversal like we're riding a shielded vessel.
	It's totally congruent with the conversation even if it is a mystery.
	Completely.
	We're riding a shielded vessel.
	Now listen, you know, the reversal before... I want to point something out before I play the next one.
	The reversal before says, we're involved with Cydonia, then we say, we're riding a shielded vessel.
	Now notice the we, referencing us.
	The words reverse speech uses is very, very important, OK?
	So we, I presume, is NASA.
	So let's move right along and we will look at another reversal, talking about the face on Mars.
	And you don't have a whole lot of pixels covering it, so, you know, these aren't the best pictures that you can make some kind of a determination.
	And, um, two reversals here.
	The first one says, worst thing, are they hiding a fort?
	Or worst thing, probably the worst possible case scenario.
	He's talking forwards that they aren't the best pictures, they can't see it very clearly.
	And these are obviously questions they are asking themselves.
	What is there?
	Is it a fort?
	I mean, it's clear as day.
	And then the next one says, straight along, this next reversal occurred about three seconds later, does their ships hide with it?
	Slightly grammatically incorrect, the does, which is unusual in reverse speech, normally reversals are extremely grammatically correct.
	Oh, that's very clear.
	Yeah, and once more.
	Does their ships hide with it?
	Yeah, interesting.
	Two questions right next to each other.
	And it's got, you know, it's got that classic questioning tone as well.
	And I think this is something that he is thinking consciously.
	You know, are they hiding a fort?
	A fort, I presume, referring to military installation.
	And whose ships?
	What ship?
	Well, even the they part of it is shockingly revealing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, who are...
	They.
	We know who we is.
	We know who we are, that's right.
	We're involved with the detonator.
	We're riding a shooter vessel.
	But are they hiding a fort?
	Does their ship hide with it?
	Exactly.
	It's like, excuse me?
	What on earth is going on?
	And then you've got another reversal, just making this mystery a little bit deeper still.
	Well, those kinds of things have always been very interesting.
	The faith itself, to the degree that people have enhanced the pictures.
	And Russell says, forced to pierce it.
	I think that was relatively clear.
	Yes.
	Forced to pierce it.
	And what?
	To pierce what?
	The fort?
	The ships?
	What are they doing?
	And the whole thing that we get around the face on Mars is there is something there that they want to know.
	They're heavily involved with Cydonia.
	They're riding a shielded vessel.
	They want to see what's there.
	They have been forced to pierce it.
	And, um, now we're looking at, uh, probably, uh, probably this, uh, uh, Nick will just play a couple more reversals that, uh, really, uh, really tie this up in a nice little neat ribbon.
	Alright.
	They can think of any number of explanations, um, until we get better pictures that maybe would say something else.
	Uh, you know, it's a wait-and-see attitude.
	They, uh, they feel that, you know, certainly worth going back and taking pictures.
	We know that the public is interested in it.
	And, uh, this simply, uh, says, they, they, there's a they, they warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Now notice the they and we, and here we have it in one reversal.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Little bit unclear, but it's, yeah, it's little, it's a little bit broken up.
	You hear that one okay?
	Um, I hear it vaguely.
	Let's do it again in the slowest speed.
	I'm going to be absolutely honest with you when I respond.
	Some I hear absolutely clearly and others are somewhat vague.
	Right.
	It takes an ear to get used to it.
	You know, I tell my students, you've got to calibrate your ears.
	They come in different tonalities and speeds.
	This one's a little bit fast.
	We'll do it one more time.
	And with that slow speed, I think it should be clearer.
	You can actually break the words up.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	They warned you first, but we get the gun now.
	Right.
	Yes.
	Guns.
	Yes.
	Shielding.
	Yes.
	Forts.
	Forts.
	Not friendly talk.
	No.
	And we'll just do one more.
	And for the record, I think it's interesting that if you look at some of Morris' pictures, you find Kermit the Frog and a couple of smiley faces on Morris.
	Personally, I've never been convinced with this.
	I see.
	And Russell says, these ships are on it, but nobody's getting answered.
	Yep.
	Clear as day, that one.
	Yep.
	And so there's a big question, there's a big mystery around this whole thing.
	What's going on?
	And they're going back, obviously, from what I can determine from the reversal, to find out.
	My question is, why aren't we being told this?
	Why is this being kept in secrecy from a so-called public agency?
	Why the deception and these bizarre stories, which when you look at the Roswell press conference gets even bizarre?
	Well, because we live in a deceptive world, David.
	We live in a deceptive world.
	And that's sad.
	That's all I can say.
	That's not how I was raised and I don't know why it's necessary.
	The way I approach life is honesty and openness is the best way.
	Deception and lies and deceit creates paranoia and anger and violence and that's what we see in society now.
	All right, now there was this most amazing, amazing news conference.
	Colonel John Haynes came out just ahead of the 50th anniversary of Roswell and gave us the third explanation of how we all got mixed up and thought a spacecraft might have crashed in 1947.
	The only problem with what he was saying, of course, was that all of the film clips And all of the incidents he referred to regarding dummies, that was the new one, came six years after the event in 1947, that there was so much evidence to support.
	Right.
	He couldn't come up with one shred of evidence that pointed to the year 1947, not anything.
	And I had a million faxes and emails.
	Nobody bought what he was saying.
	And the question I guess is, as we approach the reversals that we're about to hear, is, was he buying it?
	Not even close.
	Not even close.
	The whole thing was extremely amusing, quite frankly.
	I had to stop myself from laughing just listening to it.
	And once you hear the reversals, it's like, Who are they trying to kick?
	Well, it's humorous forward.
	It's going to be interesting to hear what it is like in reverse.
	So let's hear an example.
	Okay, let's begin.
	I'm just going to pull one from the middle of the track, and then we'll start from the beginning and work to the end.
	This is a significant one to play right now, considering we just played the NASA reversal.
	Right.
	I'm sorry, I just don't have any information on that.
	All I know is what the Air Force did, and if you overlay much of their claims, and you look at the Air Force scientific research, you can see it's obvious that what we're talking about at Roswell... And then he continues on with the dummies and Operation and Project Mogul.
	Right.
	Backwards, share a secret with NASA.
	Sure, secret with NASA.
	Oh God, that's clear.
	It's clear as day.
	Share a secret with NASA.
	Correct.
	One more time.
	Speak for yourself.
	NASA's referenced at least four or five times in this transcript.
	Now the people may understand why we caught them up on the NASA reversals before we began this Share a secret with NASA.
	One more time at regular reverse speed, please.
	Okay, here we go.
	Just a slight delay here, and here it is.
	Sure, Supervision National.
	Oh, God!
	Weird!
	I know, I know.
	I really have got to hear it.
	Now, give me the forward part of that again.
	Okay, let's do that.
	This just seems too incredible.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	I'm sorry, I just don't have any information on that.
	All I know is what the Air Force did, and if you overlay much of their claims, and you look at the Air Force scientific research, you can see it's obvious that what we're talking about at Roswell... Alright, there was no NASA in there.
	Oh no, absolutely no NASA.
	There was no secret, there was no sharing.
	No, and in point of fact, he actually says, I have no information about that.
	Share a secret with NASA?
	Unbelievable!
	Yeah, he obviously has information, and obviously NASA and the Air Force are including and looking at their files.
	I mean, there we go.
	You know, I've got 30-odd reversals here that are just as amusing and as poignant and not quite as clear as the NASA ones.
	Not quite as much information.
	I don't think this man knows a great deal.
	He knows enough To be dangerous and we'll discuss it as we play the reversals.
	They'll pretty much speak for themselves.
	Alright.
	So let's go back to the very beginning.
	I just wanted to play the one I thought was a nice one to start off with, as we lead into it.
	A nice one, yes.
	I am constantly amazed by the implications of reverse speech.
	In time, when the public and the authorities begin to realise that this is real, and it's more than just the ravings of a fringe group, when they begin to realise it's real, the implications are just staggering.
	I mean, it's staggering.
	There's nothing that you can hide anymore.
	And I believe that with every ounce of my being.
	This is the truth.
	Okay, so let's continue.
	Let's begin.
	I'm sure I'd like to show you this book.
	It's $18 and a head for the door.
	But there's two armed guards right there and they're not going to let me out of that easily.
	I remember that, yes.
	That's his very opening statement.
	And he says, road with the plans.
	Road with the plans.
	And once more time.
	Do it again.
	Road with the plans.
	Road with the plans.
	What plans?
	I mean, I actually think this is a very simple statement.
	The plan, they've planned this out.
	You know, and he's been involved in it or ridden with them.
	We'll do it one more time.
	Road with the plans.
	Okay, there's obviously an ulterior motive behind all of this.
	It's seen the plan significantly.
	This next one, I just cracked up laughing on this.
	I actually had to stop work.
	It was just so funny.
	Talk about the video.
	Let me read my prepared statement, and then we'll roll a short video that Captain McAndrew will talk about, where he says, when we roll a short video backwards, it says, we faked it.
	We faked it.
	We faked it.
	I mean, give me a break.
	Give me a break.
	Who are they trying to kid?
	It's like, It's like the goal, to go up front and present all of this and say, we faked it.
	We faked it.
	One more, a bit far-fetched.
	We faked it.
	Oh my, we faked it.
	Yeah.
	And in the same trend, I'm going to play this one.
	I had, there's one after, immediately after, that's not as clear, but it's the same vein.
	Let me just run it.
	If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
	We're confident, once the report is out and digested by the public, that this will be the final word on the Roswell incident.
	I don't think so.
	That's humorous forward, actually.
	Oh, yeah.
	And when he says that we're confident once the report is out on those words, he says, and it's not true.
	It's not a particularly clear reversal.
	There's a tone of glitch on the not, but because it's significant, I want to play it.
	And it's not true.
	Can you hear that one OK?
	Yeah, well, what I heard is, it's not true.
	Yeah, that's what it says.
	Oh no, that's very clear.
	Play it again.
	OK.
	That's a smart screw.
	I'm just looking at it from the re-spurt.
	No, no, no, no.
	Give it to me at regular speed backwards.
	OK.
	That's a smart screw.
	That's very clear to me.
	Yeah, okay.
	No, that's fine.
	I'm just listening to the tone of glitch on the word not.
	See, this is my really analytical mind.
	I hear these sounds and I dissect them down to the nth degree, because I have to.
	That's the only way we can preserve accuracy.
	Well, without specific knowledge of what did occur at Roswell, but simply with knowledge that what did occur at Roswell, he He knew something happened and he knew he was out there presenting inaccurate information and you would expect that would be about the level of knowledge this poor colonel
	Sent out to do the impossible.
	Right.
	Would have, and that's what I'm getting so far.
	Yeah, he doesn't give much away in terms of what really happened, because I don't think, quite frankly, this man knows, based on the reversals.
	He knows that there's some collusion going on with NASA, the first one.
	He knows he was given a job to do.
	He rode with the plans.
	I don't know how he specifically faked the video, but it was, well, we faked it.
	And it's not true.
	I mean, it's very bizarre.
	Well, not bizarre.
	It's blatant.
	It's just blatant.
	As I said, I don't know how they could do it.
	Okay, here's another exceptionally clear one.
	I'm not too sure what this means.
	This report has four main conclusions.
	If you have your books, turn to page three.
	We'll have a lesson.
	He simply says, sell the battle.
	a battle. Oh that's clear, a civil battle. Yeah I mean, we'll do it again. A civil battle.
	You know, well the battles are confusing reversal.
	Unless there's an internal struggle about it, maybe he's not totally happy with it, but sell this.
	It's the best way I can... Sell the battle.
	Sell the battle.
	Yeah, I pondered on that one for a while, and I can't come up with a possible meaning for it.
	But the sell is sell this to the public, but why the word battle?
	I don't pretend to have all the answers with the first speech.
	I document what I hear.
	Most of it is very logical.
	That one's a little bit vague.
	I've begun to find out that a lot of times, David, after you're on the air, reversals that you're unsure of, people out there glom onto, and they attach meaning to them, or think they know, and I get a lot of faxes and email, and people will say, here's what David Mister, here's what they were actually saying.
	Right.
	And so you're a technician in reverse speech.
	You're not a technician in matters of space.
	No, I'm not.
	And UFOs and that sort of thing.
	So it is natural that they might glom onto some meaning that you might miss.
	Right.
	Well, it was quite interesting after the last broadcast, I spoke to Richard Hoagland the following couple of days, or the following week, and a lot of the things that I was presented on your program that I didn't really know what meant, or had no knowledge of it, Richard was just tickled pink about it, because he was saying, I've been saying this for years and years and years, and what you uncovered in reverse is what I know to be true.
	And it's just an extra validity for me and for those around, because I have no knowledge, because I have no bias.
	Well, actually, that makes it all the more believable.
	David, stand by.
	We'll come back and we will continue with reversals.
	From poor Colonel Haynes.
	I think of the family, anyway.
	You're listening to Arc Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from June 27, 1997.
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	You know, there is terrorism out there.
	So, in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
	I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, That would create this terror to continue to control us.
	I think you're absolutely correct.
	But of course, anybody that's followed the process of governments throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always seeks more.
	And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
	Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
	Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
	Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
	It's just a matter of time.
	Now, let's go back to the night of June 27th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Back now to David Olds.
	David, we're just picking up a new audience.
	So, we just began on the reversals of this poor kernel, and I would like to go back to the first one you did and repeat it.
	Can we do that?
	Are we talking about the we faked it or the share a secret with NASA?
	Well, actually both.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, let's do the share a secret with NASA.
	That's the very first one I did.
	And we're running it forward.
	I'm sorry, I just don't have any information on that.
	All I know is what the Air Force did, and if you overlay much of their claims, and you look at the Air Force scientific research, you can see it's obvious that what we're talking about at Roswell... And here we have reversal on this.
	He's talking forward.
	He says right at the very beginning, I have no information.
	But in reverse, we hear him say, share a secret with NASA.
	Share a secret with NASA.
	And again.
	Share a secret with NASA.
	Very clear, very clear.
	It speaks for itself.
	Do you remember the reversal you did a little while ago that said it isn't something about the battle?
	Oh, right.
	Sell the battle, yeah.
	Sell the battle.
	Well, somebody just sent me a fax and said, listen again, it's not sell the battle, it's sell the babble.
	You know what?
	I was fluctuating between babble and battle when I found Found it, and even an hour before I went on the air, I had Karen in, and we were listening to it over again, and I couldn't determine.
	I finally opted for battle.
	We'll play that in a second again, but let's just play that we faked it first.
	Alright, go right ahead.
	Oh yes, go right ahead.
	This one's so hilarious.
	Let me read my prepared statement, and then we'll roll a short video that Captain McAndrew will talk about.
	And talking about the video, we faked it.
	We faked it.
	I think it's blatant and as clear as day.
	And actually, I mean, let's quickly do it, and it's not true as well.
	These two are the two hilarious ones of all.
	All right, now going back to the NASA reversals, which talked all about shielding and all the rest of that.
	Yes.
	Colonel Philip Corso has the newest, hottest book out About ETs and Roswell and all the rest of it right now.
	It's called The Day After Roswell.
	I'm sure you've heard of it.
	Yeah.
	Okay, in his book, Colonel Corso talks about, get this, shielding our space vessels and satellites from electromagnetic pulse weapons, from EBEs, that extra Terrestrials, extra biological entities actually.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yes, oh my gosh.
	That is amazing.
	You know there's a reversal on the original NASA tape.
	Mars set this ray gun.
	Yes.
	And there's another one that talks about the ray beam right at the very end.
	Now this is particularly interesting because again You don't know a damn thing about all of this.
	You're just doing the reversals and wondering what the shielding business is about.
	Here's Colonel Corso, well respected, talking about shielding our space vessels.
	I mean, that's almost too much for me.
	Right.
	Alright, well anyway, let us continue with the poor colonel.
	Yeah, the poor colonel's really, really true too.
	Uh, let's uh, well let's just do that to sell the battle again, and I'll just, I'll just run the reverse for it, I don't know whether, and let's see what Tyson sells, is it battle or babble?
	Yes.
	Sell or babble.
	Oh.
	Sell or babble.
	Oh.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I've got to agree with this, Faxer.
	It sounds like babble to me.
	Sell the babble.
	You know, Karen was saying it was babble, too.
	And she checks a lot of my reversals.
	And she said to me, David, it's the difference between the Aussie and the American accent.
	And she could very well be right.
	No, I agree with the Faxer.
	Not only that, but to use your favorite word, it makes it congruent.
	Correct.
	It makes it totally congruent.
	You know, sell the babble.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's fine.
	I bow down. I'm just documenting what I hear and applying the best independent bond bias
	protocols I can. Alright, let's move on.
	We faked it.
	It's not true.
	Sell the babble.
	I'll buy that.
	And now we get into a little bit of the motivations of why they're doing this.
	Bodies observed in the New Mexico desert were probably test dummies that were carried aloft by U.S.
	Air Force high-altitude balloons for scientific research.
	Right!
	Ha!
	and somebody sent me a cartoon uh... yesterday david i think it showed up it showed a saucer
	about to crash and there were two aliens in the saucer uh... alien one said oh my god we're going to crash
	Alien 2 said, okay, throw out the Air Force dummies.
	That's funny.
	That's hilarious.
	There was actually one that someone posted on my bulletin board about applying reverse psychology and I thought it was interesting considering the program we're doing now and I had the colonel saying, We all lied.
	There was a UFO there, and there were alien bodies.
	Bodies recovered, and then the public says, yeah, right.
	Reverse psychology, you know.
	Yes.
	Okay, and the next one, very curious reversal.
	You defeat NASA.
	Look at this NASA.
	Look at this NASA.
	Okay?
	NASA is extremely clear.
	Yeah.
	And again, this is why we led with the NASA stuff, folks, because There would obviously be a connection, and we're establishing one, again and again and again, with the poor colonel's reversals.
	NASA mentioned again and again and again.
	A strong connection.
	I've never heard NASA in reverse before, you know, and I don't know what it means, you to speak NASA.
	Well, and I've sure never heard Cydonia.
	By the way, can you crank that one up for the late audience to Cydonia?
	Oh, that's impossible.
	That was during my interview with the two NASA guys.
	And there was no... We're going to play the forward part for you first.
	There was no mention of Cydonia for heaven's sakes.
	Right.
	And here that one is coming up right now.
	Let's run the forward.
	Shortly after it got there, when the mapping began that year, Viking Orbiter 1 sent back a picture and somebody noticed it on there.
	And it's kind of a neat thing.
	And here it is, we're involved with Cydonia.
	And we'll do it again, just at regular, regular speed.
	We're involved with Cydonia.
	Impossible.
	Totally impossible.
	And if people want to hear these themselves, they can go to my website, www.reversespeech.com.
	You can also call our office at 1-800-669-5789, and we have tapes available of these.
	I've got my book and tapes and machines and all sorts of stuff.
	Okay, so let's go back to the poor colonel.
	Poor colonel is really, really true, and there's actually a reverse line toward the end where
	he says in reverse, you know, all I want to do is serve.
	That's not the exact words, but when we get to it, you'll hear that.
	He's really just doing his job.
	His job, I know.
	Okay, here's this one I can't play.
	So I've snipped it.
	We talked about it in the first hour.
	Alright, now I want the audience to know what word is being said.
	It's bull... blank.
	And everybody can fill in the blank there.
	Right.
	But we're going to have to blank that part out.
	I've deleted the blank already.
	Right.
	These conclusions are listed in page 3, as I said, of the book.
	Please roll the video.
	The reversal is, uh, I live in bull.
	Blank.
	And I can hear the full reversal on my side.
	I'd like to.
	I live in war.
	I just put the rest in, you know.
	And we just had to eliminate the... How clear was the, uh... Oh, no doubt.
	Really?
	No doubt.
	I couldn't play it on the air.
	Go to my website and you can hear it or call my office and we've got the tapes available.
	All right.
	The full reversal is available on his website.
	Yeah.
	I live in Bull.
	Let's do it again.
	You've got to imagine the rest of it.
	Yeah.
	I can't play the rest.
	I understand.
	Look at the trend here.
	We faked it.
	It's not true.
	And that's when he began to do further research.
	He sent it up the chain and they said this is excellent information.
	to the next one in series and we're running it forward now.
	And that's when he began to do further research.
	He sent it up the chain and they said this is excellent information, it's outstanding
	scientific research by the Air Force and this is another NASA reversal.
	Curse you to beat NASA.
	And we had the other one earlier that says you defeat NASA.
	So what's going on here?
	There's some rivalry here.
	I mean, they're sharing the secrets, but there's also an obvious rivalry of some description.
	Curse you to beat NASA.
	Yeah.
	Curse you to beat NASA.
	Yeah.
	And let's run that again.
	Curse you to beat NASA.
	You're a shootin' bit now, sir.
	Yep.
	You're a shootin' bit now, sir.
	And there's another reversal after it.
	In point of fact, it was actually one reversal, but I've split it into two.
	And the other half reversal, I have no idea what it means.
	Uh, lying in its slice.
	Lying in its slice.
	Lying in its slice.
	No idea.
	Lying in its slice.
	In its slice.
	I have absolutely no idea.
	This circular has a couple of obscure reversals, and that's one of them.
	And I just have absolutely no idea what that means.
	But, as you say, I'm sure someone out there who knows more than me will have the answer, so I'm going to play it.
	OK, and let's move on.
	This next one's concerning.
	People in Roswell and elsewhere still are not convinced, no matter what you say.
	I'm sorry, but I just can't answer that question for them.
	But they must look at the evidence.
	Okay, got to obey it.
	They killed some.
	It's a bit quick, but... What I hear, what I hear is, they killed some.
	I don't hear the first part.
	Okay, let's run at just the slightly slowest speed.
	Uh, the got is fairly quick.
	You should better hear the obey it though.
	Obey it, they killed some.
	Let's just pick it up on obey it.
	Maybe that'll work.
	Obey it, they killed some.
	No, I didn't do it properly.
	Let's do it one more time.
	Obey it, they killed some.
	There we go.
	Uh huh.
	Yeah, obey it, they killed some.
	I have no idea what that means.
	It's a little bit concerning.
	Well, it makes sense that a lot of what we would hear, frankly, since we don't really know what's going on and we only have suspicion, wouldn't make sense to us.
	Right.
	And as I've said before on previous programs, reverse speeches, it's probably more accurate to say that it's footnotes from the unconscious.
	We don't get the entire picture.
	You know, we're just getting little sound bites here and there once every ten seconds or so.
	Carry these quick, sharp sentences.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	This next one.
	Nothing in here was ever classified.
	In the first report, everything was classified in the 70s.
	This next one is pretty obvious.
	See the mess.
	See the mess.
	See the mess, yes.
	Oh, it's very clear.
	See the mess.
	See the mess.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the whole thing is, you know, see the mess.
	They're in confusion.
	There's obviously a lot going on, they're trying to sort it through, work out what's happening.
	I have a question for you.
	Yes, sir.
	I would dearly love to have this poor Colonel John Haynes here.
	Now, I mean right now, have you ever had the object of your reversals, other than perhaps, you know, maybe me, you did a few on me, other than that, have you ever had a major object of your reversals Um, present to react to your reversals as you play them.
	Yes, I have.
	And, uh, how does that... Well, it depends.
	There's a classic example.
	I have an attorney in Los Angeles who uses this occasionally.
	She does reversals on their positions.
	And she's actually gone back and confronted people with the reversals and got chilling reactions.
	One man went into a cold sweat.
	This is not the average thing you want to say as you're leaving a deposition.
	that you will never get the truth out of
	uh... so at the end of it to get a situation
	the reverse between the uh... reversal it really does and chills down your spine this is not the average thing
	you want to say as you're leaving a deposition you will never get the truth
	out of me Correct.
	See, I believe that investigators and authorities can actually use this to break down suspects.
	There's an intense power behind your own reversals, and it kills you to your fall.
	Yeah, I would think in police interrogation, for example, it would be an incredible tool, because here the person is under tremendous strain, they're not used to being interrogated by a detective, The detective is asking very hard questions.
	The responses are emotional, probably with beads of sweat falling off the guy.
	And to be confronted with reversals might be the straw that breaks the suspect's back.
	Oh sure, and I actually use it in therapy all the time.
	You're probably aware, the bulk of my business is my therapy work.
	I have practice in San Diego and And what this does to the therapeutic patient is just awe-inspiring.
	It's breathtaking.
	We can cut through psychological blocks and barriers rapidly in just one session.
	With reading people's reversals, I have seen those walls come down so fast, it takes your breath away.
	Takes your breath away.
	David, hold tight.
	We'll be right back and we'll do more reversals.
	I think you've got a few more on the colonel, don't you?
	Yes, I do.
	All right.
	The poor colonel.
	I really think of him that way.
	I mean, I still like my image of the meeting where the colonel was told he was going to be the one to go out and talk about time compression.
	By the general.
	John, you've got to go out there and...
	You gotta do your duty for your country.
	Compression time.
	Compression, son.
	You're listening to Arc Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from June 27, 1997.
	This is a clip from the first season of Coast to Coast.
	Tonight's program originally aired June 27th, 1997.
	Good morning, I'm Art Bell and my guest is David Oates.
	We're doing reverse speech right now on poor Colonel Haynes.
	I keep saying poor Colonel Haynes because I just can't imagine that he really wanted to go out there and say all
	that.
	And yet, look what I got!
	Look at this!
	Doug in Don, I'm sorry, in Nebraska says Art.
	Did you happen to catch Tom Snyder tonight?
	No, I haven't caught him in a long time.
	I don't think he's broadcast locally.
	I never got the guest name, but he spent the entire show ragging on Roswell, Whitley Strieber, and UFOs in general.
	While praising the Air Force Colonel person, or Colonel John Haynes, that did the press conference on C-SPAN this week.
	Well, Don, that's incredible.
	I wonder how anybody could, uh, praise that presentation.
	Uh, and I would be very interested in where he found the merit and how he dealt with the minimum six-year time compression the Colonel couldn't account for.
	Oh my.
	Ah well.
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	Now, let's go back to the night of June 27th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Let me read you a quick fax coming from British Columbia, Ian in British Columbia.
	be a...
	Art, after listening to the air farce, his word, Description of the true, in quotes, events concerning Roswell.
	They continue to get into deeper doo-doo, don't they?
	I just howled this morning when Headline News featured yet another report stating the residents of Roswell may have confused an injured Air Force pilot who had sustained head injuries, resulting in a swollen cranium with a supposed alien.
	This is truly great entertainment.
	And I look forward to the Air Force's next press release.
	David?
	Yes, sir.
	Alright, here we are again.
	Okay, and I just downloaded a couple of emails with two people telling me that it says sell the Babble.
	Babble?
	I've got ten faxes here saying exactly the same thing, so I think maybe we caught you on that one.
	Well, I'm the first one to admit if I make a mistake.
	Well, it is a mistake that went to the side of congruence.
	Good!
	That suits me just fine.
	And maybe I can actually use that to illustrate a point.
	I document what I genuinely hear, whether it fits in with my theories or not.
	Sure.
	And I finally opted on battle, even though it made no sense.
	I'm trying to be honest.
	Well, that's coming through loud and clear, my friend.
	Okay, here's a reversal that'll send some chills down people's spines.
	It's one of those horrible metaphors that I never play, but this one I want to.
	It's extremely clear.
	We're talking about Groom Lake, Nevada.
	My daughter asked me the same question.
	There is a facility in Groom Lake, Nevada.
	Quite frankly, I have no knowledge or expertise in the matters.
	I understand there are classified things that go on there, and that's all I have to say about it.
	I know.
	Listen to the reversal.
	Hear the Lucifer hear.
	Hear the Lucifer, yep.
	Hear the Lucifer, yep.
	You hear that one?
	Oh, too clearly.
	It doesn't send chills down your spine.
	Hear the Lucifer hear.
	Do it again.
	Hear the Lucifer hear.
	There we go.
	Just give it to us at regular reverse.
	Okay.
	You're the Lucifer, yeah.
	And Lucifer's a metaphor of reverse speech.
	Is it?
	Oh yeah, it's not a common one.
	It refers to a grand deception, master manipulation.
	It's a very powerful metaphor.
	If I see someone with a Lucifer metaphor, I'm going to Take great caution and great respect.
	Here's someone you don't want to mess with.
	I still get chills hearing this one.
	It's interesting your comment is very clear because the metaphors are actually clearer than the regular conscious reversal that I generally tend to play mostly.
	I guess metaphorically.
	To me, though, it seemed quite clear, and there are lots of people out there, David, believe me, who think what's going on at Area 51 has lots to do with Lucifer, frankly.
	Well, then, on that note, let me play another reversal.
	It's another metaphoric statement that a lot of people would connect with a lot.
	I'm just going to play it.
	I skipped it before.
	Just in the same note of biblical type revelation stuff.
	And here's another metaphoric statement.
	They share the mark.
	You hear that one okay?
	airfield hospital were most likely a combination of two separate incidents
	and here's another metaphoric statement by shia the mark mission about
	mission the mark you know i can't all hell yes
	they share the marketable yet mark i believe it uh... it's not a part of the mark of
	the beast correct yet uh... not a common metaphor of a state to pick up about
	occasionally uh... that that also around the uh... you well around the
	claims of That'll put chills down plenty of religious spines, believe me.
	Oh yes it will.
	One day I'm going to release the whole metaphoric nature of reverse speech, which quite frankly is over 70% of all reversals are metaphoric in content, and some of their messages are chilling.
	But I think the public's got enough problem dealing with reverse speech alone without Bringing that one in.
	Let's just run that forward and reverse, the Lucifer reversal again.
	There is a facility in Groom Lake, Nevada.
	Quite frankly, I have no knowledge or expertise in the matters.
	I understand there are classified things that go on there, and that's all I have to say about it.
	The Lucifer, yeah.
	That's it.
	I know.
	And the next one along from this is just as ominous.
	Let me load it up and we'll run it.
	Because our job is to review all the Air Force documents for this era.
	And that's how we came up with this exciting and interesting and intriguing, quite frankly, report.
	This one says, I make you our slave.
	Hear that one, OK?
	Oh, yes.
	Very clearly.
	It's obvious and intent.
	I see it as manipulation.
	You know, you will believe what we say.
	And I heard the press laughing in the background during the forward part.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to run that forward again?
	Sure.
	Do it one more time.
	Listen, everybody, you can hear some of the press laughing.
	Our job is to review all the Air Force documents for this era.
	And that's how we came up with this exciting and interesting and intriguing, quite frankly, press report.
	As a matter of fact, even he began to chuckle at the end.
	Oh yeah, right.
	You know, you don't even need reversals on this press conference, quite frankly.
	I know.
	You really don't.
	I know, but it was an irresistible target.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And as you know, when you rung me, I was already Yes, I need to serve.
	and even before you go to the house curiously that myself uh...
	we have a a few more to play couple of the very disturbing reversals right at
	the very end but this is one for poor colonel hank
	because this is intriguing and fascinating research you may have noticed this is also the fiftieth anniversary
	united states air force
	and he said yes i'd need to serve it's a new district
	this time to prove uh... that is uh... disturbing because i i i have thought
	uh...
	at the right to watching colonel haines in his performance my word
	uh... that that's exactly what he was doing and what he thought he was doing
	He was serving his country.
	Oh yeah, that's exactly what he was doing.
	You know, the very first reversal he rode with the plants.
	This is what he was told to do and this is what he did.
	I think he was probably chosen because he didn't know a great deal.
	He knew enough to be able to pull this off, but he didn't know a great deal.
	He's doing it for the public service.
	Sure.
	This is his job.
	I don't see any maliciousness in this man at all, in reverse.
	Although, when I say malicious, he has knowledge of events which, when we get to the last two reversals, concern me a little bit.
	You may have also concluded that We have been talking about other things about space and things of that nature, and this altitude balloon research is quite fascinating.
	But it was left in the dust!
	This is right at the very end of the interview.
	I haven't played all of these reversals, just the highlights.
	Right.
	This is right at the very end, and he knows he's messed up.
	The reversal says, I've been caught.
	I've been caught.
	Oh God.
	I've been caught.
	He knows that this has not gone over well.
	Poor man.
	This is immediately after, yes, I need to serve.
	Then he says, I've been caught.
	Oops, we just lost the file for a second.
	He says, I've been caught.
	There it is.
	I've been caught.
	Oh, that is too clear.
	Yeah.
	And there's another one here that I don't know what it means, so let's play it straight after.
	Sad when they fell.
	Sad when they fell.
	And that was straight after I'd been caught.
	Well now, wait a minute.
	I might know what that means.
	Sad when they fell?
	Uh-huh.
	I think I know what that might mean, David.
	There are a lot of witnesses to the Roswell incident who indicate that the alien creatures that crashed in the desert there were pathetic.
	They were dying.
	And it was a very sad event.
	Oh, yes, indeed.
	I've talked to a lot of people about exactly that.
	Sad when they fell.
	That makes a lot of sense to me.
	Let me hear that again, please.
	Sad when they fell.
	And we'll do it one more time.
	And you've got that agonizing tone too.
	You hear his little, it's almost like his throat catching on the word sad.
	I have no problem with that one whatsoever.
	Yep, I understand that perfectly.
	Okay, now a couple of revealing reversals now.
	We've got three more to play on this one.
	Let's load this up.
	He's been asked, the question was whether there's any other, are they still researching UFOs or are there any other research projects being done?
	Unidentified flying objects that there are extraterrestrial visits and the Air Force simply have not found it or been able to detect it.
	That's the reporter's question.
	We have researched the Air Force projects and the Air Force information for these Eurogroups.
	We have nothing else to say about it.
	Okay.
	Very significant reversal.
	Ashamed of Missile praying it.
	And I spelt praying as P-R-E-Y as in praying.
	As in praying upon.
	Correct.
	And then there's two words after that that says Skies Doubt.
	And the Skies Doubt, I see that as we don't know what's in there.
	There is doubt and we have missiles seeking and looking.
	Ashamed of Missile praying it.
	Skies Doubt.
	Uh-huh.
	I hear that one, OK?
	Yes.
	The significant word, too, is ashamed.
	He doesn't like being involved in this, that he's doing his job.
	Yes.
	Let me run it one more time.
	OK, and the next ones are just as significant.
	And these two reversals are side by side, and it's important And that's another common trend in reverse speech.
	You don't get reversals that are isolated from each other.
	They string together and make a story.
	And then you get three or four reversals that pursue the same theme and then they'll shift to a different theme.
	Well, that makes sense.
	Just as thought strings together.
	Right.
	And that's what you're seeing in reverse speech.
	You're seeing the unconscious mind and the conscious mind organizing thought processes and facts and events and reasoning.
	I mean, it's such a complex phenomenon.
	Once you really get down and study it, it's just incredible.
	I love this.
	I'm consumed with the speech.
	It's my passion.
	Okay, let's continue.
	It's Project Blue Book was the end, and that's it?
	You know, I don't ever want to speak for the Air Force about never again, but it's my opinion that they will not.
	OK, two reversals here.
	He says, I don't want to ever speak to the Air Force about ever again.
	And a reversal, I was so afraid of its colonel.
	I was so afraid of its colonel.
	And one more time.
	I was so afraid of its colonel.
	There's some fear there.
	And then he says, arm more weaponry.
	Arm more weaponry.
	Just fine.
	Yeah, and that's in conclusion, that's in line with, um, with, um, ashamed of the missile, praying it, there's a sky's doubt, there's a doubt in the sky, I was afraid of the colonel, um, more weaponing.
	This is a man who is serving his country, uh, he has some knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes.
	The video was faked.
	He knows all about that.
	He's selling the Babble.
	Yeah, you know, all of this is exactly, I mean exactly what I would expect to get.
	I would not expect this Colonel to have deep knowledge, deep knowledge, but a cursory knowledge of what he was sent out there to cover up.
	And that is exactly what we have gotten.
	That's exactly true.
	And let me just play one more reverse along this.
	It would appear that the Air Force compiled this information at the request of the GAO, at the request of the New Mexico Congress person, if I'm correct.
	Now that was report one, sir.
	Okay, a very simple reversal.
	personnel role will deny that.
	and that one's I think fairly clear too.
	It was, and you know, interestingly, I heard a little bit of that ethereal sound in that one.
	Ah, right, okay.
	You don't get the ethereal sound so much in public broadcasts.
	He's in an extremely left brain situation.
	He's on the spot.
	He's trying to get his point across.
	The reversals drop off in their clarity.
	You notice these were not as clear as the NASA reversals, where the conversation's far more free-flowing and spontaneous.
	Here, even the glares of camera reversals drop off, you lose some of the etheric nature of it.
	But when you get down to regular, normal conversations, like two people just chatting side by side, the reversals are so clear, it's as though they're forward.
	Well, as usual, David, this has been absolutely stunning and as far as i'm concerned more confirmation
	of the absolute validity of reverse speech too much congruence here far too much to have been any sort
	of coincidence and uh... i would like to give you an opportunity to again
	carefully give out your phone number and any information you want the
	audience to have about your website or anything else
	Okay, well, what we really need right now is people to be trained to use this technology.
	You know, since the last broadcast, our phones have not stopped ringing.
	I've got requests for tape analysis, I've got people wanting this and that, and we need people to come and help.
	Now, there's several ways that you can do that.
	You can take training, we have a correspondence course that you can do it at home, or you can, our next in-house training is not starting until January, and now that we've been approved by the state of California, it's a very legitimate mainstream college, I'm expecting that the career opportunities in this will be immense.
	And let me give them my 1-800 number for that, and then we'll continue talking, it's 1-800-669-5756.
	1-800-669-5789.
	That's 1-800-669-5789.
	Alright.
	We also have the Machines available where you can do it yourself.
	We have a special on this week because we had such an influx of business from the last show where anyone who wants to get a machine now will get included in that, a free video on how to use your machine, on how to find reversals, just a very Well, I think it's an hour and a half on how to use it and how to find reversals.
	That will be included with the order.
	My book is an absolute must, quite frankly.
	It goes right into the details of how to find them, how to locate them.
	It covers a lot of my very early technical tests, the blind testings that I've done to verify this, the history of reverse speech.
	It goes into a large section on therapy.
	Yeah, we're fairly well equipped.
	uh... they had the whole cabinet for fascinating really alright how do they
	get that they can call my office one together one eight hundred
	six six nine five seven eight nine eight eight hundred six six nine five
	seven eight nine so information machines
	tapes the whole all of us a whole lot yeah we're fairly well equipped i'm
	not really spent most of the last eighteen months
	just getting a product line.
	As usual, it has been stunning.
	nation out and uh... and also the product self-harm up as well we're not you know i don't have any ground
	or anything like that purely self-funded so all of that
	help that we've got a website that w w w dot reverse speech dot com alright my friend we're out of time
	as usual it has been starting thank you david thank you very much i do
	appreciate it Until next time, take care.
	Okay, thank you.
	All right, we'll be right back.
	You're listening to ArcBell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM, from June 27th, 1997.
	June 27, 1997.
	Oh, baby.
	On the telephone, you find a love of love that stays.
	I'm running out of time, your beautiful secret stays inside I'm watching in slow motion as you turn around and say
	Take my breath away Take my breath away
	Take my breath away i
	radio network presents or someone's on tonight's program originally on june twenty seventh
	nineteen ninety seven and it was nice to hear from that hand in boston
	and uh...
	i guess i have another comment here i Yes, I've been involved in radio since I was old enough to get up and twist the knob and begin to take my mom's appliances apart.
	It has always taken my breath away.
	Radio.
	It's still magical after all these years.
	You know, to me, the fact that you can send a signal through the air Thousands of miles, hundreds, thousands of miles, sometimes to the very other side of the Earth.
	It's magical.
	It's magic.
	It's always been magic to me.
	And, um... I can remember the very first, uh... The very first contacts I had when I was a hand.
	By code, you know.
	We call it CW.
	And... It took my breath away.
	Believe me, and it still does.
	And what I do here on the radio is kind of an extension of that.
	Not kind of, it is.
	A lot of times when I get off commercial radio, I'm on ham radio.
	In other words, I'm a hopeless case.
	And I think I always will be.
	Here I am at 52 years of age.
	And I haven't changed.
	So the odds are pretty good, you know, from 12 to 52 regarding my first license.
	I'm not going to change.
	I'm always going to be this way about radio.
	And Ken writes me another fax here.
	Again, urging me to do what Laura Schlesinger is doing.
	Laura Schlesinger, according to Ken, has an hourly advertisement urging station managers or program directors or whoever to vote for her for the Marconi Award.
	I just, Ken, couldn't do that.
	Wouldn't do that.
	Somehow, you know, on the air, I just wouldn't do that.
	I just wouldn't lobby for it.
	Unless what I'm saying right now amounts to a lobby for it, that's as much as you're going to hear.
	I'm not going to have any hourly campaign to lobby for the Marconi Award.
	But I am deeply honored to even be considered for the Marconi Award.
	I mean, radio really has been my life.
	Not just commercial radio, not just what I'm doing here, but radio in general.
	The absolute magic of radio.
	Also, the award would be an honor in that respect.
	What we're doing here, and Ken mentions the forum, and he's right about that.
	What we're doing here is a very different kind of forum.
	So, in my opinion, it will either be recognized as that, and something very different than is going on anywhere else, or not.
	Simply being nominated for it is honestly enough for me.
	And I'm just not going to have an on-air lobbying campaign, which the National Association of Broadcasters absolutely does allow.
	I mean, it's like the Academy Awards or something, you know?
	You can lobby for it, you can have advertisements for it, and all that kind of stuff.
	But, nah, I don't think so.
	I wouldn't feel right about it.
	I just, you know, I just wouldn't feel right about it.
	And so I'm not going to do that.
	But thank you, Ken.
	Thank you very much for your concern.
	Now, referring to the Tom Sniders, I guess Tom Snider had somebody named Harlan Allison on, a science fiction author.
	No, I have not heard of him.
	He did not come across well, according to Jim in Redondo Beach.
	He would not listen to one word of anybody who disagreed with him.
	He even lowered himself to calling some of the callers' names.
	According to him, everyone in Roswell is, I'm quoting, a farmer or a hick.
	Tom Snyder, he says, just lost a lot of credibility with me.
	Well, Jim, don't take it out on Tom Snyder.
	He just, you know, is doing a talk show.
	Take it out on the person who would Use that sort of tactic.
	I will refer you back to a sort of a debate that we had on the air between Jim Dolitoso, who I consider to be a very level-headed guy, and an Arizona member of MUFON, who I did not consider to be so level-headed.
	But I let it go.
	I let them go at each other.
	And Jim Dolitoso, to his credit, did not really go at the guy.
	But the other guy came at him.
	And a lot of it was ad hominem attacks and to the listener.
	And that's what I do on this program that I don't think is done very frequently elsewhere.
	I allow all of you to be the judge of the credibility of the people that you're listening to.
	I don't try to tell you what to think.
	That's no slam against Rush.
	I let you be the judge.
	And, inevitably, you're a pretty good judge.
	In other words, I thought as I listened to the debate that Mr. De La Tosa was behaving as a gentleman and was coming across as a careful researcher.
	And I thought the other side did not exhibit those qualities.
	And sure enough, I had, you know, hundreds of messages that generally agreed with that.
	So that's the way I choose to do this program.
	You know, it's just a forum.
	It's a place where things happen, and where they're spontaneous, and where I try to help people tell their stories.
	And if they want to come on here and slam around with ad hominem attacks against people, Uh, then, they dig their, you know, there's an old saying about giving somebody enough rope.
	Right?
	It absolutely applies, and, in my opinion of my audience, is that you all can decide that for yourself.
	You don't need me screaming and yelling at somebody, or shining a bright light in their face, or coming at them 60 minutes style, to, uh, to judge.
	As a matter of fact, the more rope you give somebody, Uh, the easier it becomes to judge their credibility.
	And that's what I think my forum is.
	And I that's what I think radio ought to be all about.
	And so again, that brings me back to my career in radio many long years now.
	And again, I'm honored simply to be nominated or one of the five finalists for the Marconi And I have a lot of respect for the name Marconi, as you can imagine.
	Can you imagine what it must have been like in Marconi's days?
	What radio must have been like?
	When the first crude spark transmitters actually managed to get across the Atlantic Ocean?
	And I'm old enough, of course, to remember some of the first early crude Uh, radios, because I built a few of them, thank you very much.
	and uh...
	i'd treasure those days although new radios are
	uh... kind of nice now let's go back to the night of june twenty seventh
	nineteen ninety seven on our bills somewhere in time
	and West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Oops, would have been on the air.
	We just missed you.
	Sorry about that.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi, this is Charles from Maine.
	Hi, Charles from Maine.
	How are you?
	Good.
	I was wondering about the reversal.
	Yes.
	I was wondering how cut and dried is it?
	Like, if you took a manuscript of, what was his name, Haynes?
	Yes.
	And you, yourself, were to read it, you know, word for word.
	Would you get the exact same reversal?
	No, you would not.
	And the reason is because the inflection, the amount of pressure somebody's under, the emotional nature of the response to a question is going to be different each time.
	And so you're not necessarily going to get exactly the same thing.
	If you managed to say it with the same inflection, the same emotion, then yes, you would.
	So it's like subconsciously you're able to somehow arrange words.
	There you go.
	That's amazing.
	Yes, that is what it's all about, and you're doggone right.
	It's amazing.
	Well, thanks for taking my call.
	You bet.
	Thanks for making it.
	Good to hear from the state of Maine.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Yes, good evening, Art.
	Hi.
	I'm a second time caller.
	My name is Amadeus.
	Armadeus.
	Ama.
	Ama.
	A-M-A.
	Okay, I've got it now.
	Amadeus.
	You got it.
	Um, I wanted to ask you if you were aware that at one time, um, Nikola Tesla paid for Marconi to come over to the United States when he was doing a lot of experimentations and wireless transmissions.
	Yes, I had heard that.
	Yeah.
	And he put Marconi up and Marconi took a lot of research notes from Nikola Tesla.
	And basically it was Nikola Tesla who invented the radio wireless transmissions.
	And Marconi took his ideas welcome back to europe and and confident that patented them
	by i know i know the whole controversy yeah it's not a controversy is documented
	but i know well it it is a controversy i mean there are people who
	disagree with
	the the uh... the stolen idea part of it Well, Nikola Tesla cared nothing for money, and he also didn't care who got credit for what.
	All he cared about was for the creations would be for the betterment of humanity.
	The science, yes.
	And for the betterment of humanity in general, not just science.
	Well, I have no way of absolutely knowing.
	Certainly, Marconi made great contributions.
	There's no question about it.
	For example, sir, right now in America, we are the innovators.
	We are still the innovators in a lot of electronic advances and, you know, the Japanese frequently take that which we invent and they make practical use of it and market it.
	So, there's genius in all kinds of categories.
	Yeah, um, I had never heard of Nikola Tesla until, um, I stumbled in a bookstore out here in Los Angeles.
	I'm calling from Beverly Hills.
	Right.
	Los Angeles.
	There's a bookstore called the Bodai Tree.
	Um, and I stumbled upon these books on Nikola Tesla, all of these biographies, and he also has a very small autobiography.
	Oh, he's a fascinating guy.
	The only problem with Tesla is that there has grown A legend around Tesla, and it's getting rather difficult to separate reality from myth.
	You know, in other words, there was a lot over the years that has built up around Tesla that may not be true.
	Well, you have to read his autobiography, which is... I've read it.
	I've read it.
	Oh, you do?
	Oh, sure.
	I've read a lot of books on Tesla, and he's incredibly impressive.
	Some of the things, though, attributed to him, I think, are more myth than reality.
	That doesn't mean that he is not one of the world's greatest men, because he is.
	Was.
	I'm glad to hear you say that, because I was only told about Edison in school.
	I'd never even heard about Nikola Tesla, and when I started to read the information, I just couldn't believe what I was reading!
	Well, I... I didn't realize that that electromagnetic energy was present everywhere in the universe.
	That God created a perpetual motion machine.
	Today, sir, we call it zero-point energy.
	Yes, I... Look, I fully agree with you.
	All I'm trying to suggest is that the man, as great as he was, probably is greater today than he, in fact, was.
	And that's no slam-down, that's simply an observation.
	It's kind of like the old West legends that were built around the gunfighters.
	You know, there were seeds of truth, or even more than seeds of truth, in the behavior of a lot of them.
	But the real nitty-gritty truth was probably not quite, generally, did not quite live up to the myth.
	And that's all I'm trying to suggest here.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Um, I would like to know when the interview that CNN did with you will be aired this summer.
	Uh, I, as a matter of fact, uh, I got a call from CNN, uh, let me see, day before yesterday, and they said now they think it's going to be the first week in August.
	Okay, do you know what channel?
	Um, no, uh, no, I think it's, uh, it may be TBS.
	Okay, so as it comes close, I will know, and you can bet I'll get it on the air.
	Thank you very much.
	Alright, thank you, and take care.
	On my international line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	How you doing, Eric?
	I'm doing.
	Wow.
	I forgot what I was going to ask you.
	All that trouble to get through and you forgot, huh?
	Hey, did you hear anything about turtles?
	Well, I know they're slow.
	Yeah, that's true.
	No, there's some biologist at a local college.
	He discovered something's wrong with the snapping turtles in a few local swamps.
	They got like a diabetes syndrome.
	Oh, I'm not surprised.
	They're not sure if it's viral or some kind of chemical contamination.
	I'm not surprised.
	I'm not.
	Now that's going to take me... Nowhere else has any turtles like that been found with this condition.
	I appreciate the call.
	We'll look into it.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yeah, I was playing with Voice Reversal myself.
	You know, I was kind of skeptical of it.
	Actually, I took a random sample from your radio show last night from Hoagland.
	Yes.
	What's the other guy's name?
	He was talking with someone else.
	Oh, you would ask.
	I'm sorry, I've got it in the other room, but... Yeah, I guess that's okay.
	Anyway... Indiana Jones.
	Okay, yeah.
	Anyway, he said, when I reversed the part, and I've got the sample here, but basically he said, they'll reverse it back, they'll reverse it back.
	and I'll go ahead and put the phone up to the speaker here.
	And...
	At the surface level.
	At the surface level.
	Well, that was the first of five.
	Well, that was the first of the six.
	I guess, I don't know if that came over okay.
	It's a little difficult to do reversals in that way and when David was first doing them on this program, that's the way he was doing them literally.
	Holding it up to the speaker in the early days and then he got it wired in directly and it makes a very big difference in the way you can hear it.
	Let's see, I was able to get an extensive conversation on a little block, but it isn't very clear and I guess... No, hold off on it.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I also wanted to mention about the Seattle quakes.
	There's a whole kind of a spit of quakes going on up there.
	Yeah.
	In the three and four range.
	No, this is kind of weird.
	Okay, I've been monitoring earthquakes for about maybe a year now.
	With the University of Washington website?
	Yes.
	And you know, you usually have quakes under 3.0.
	Well, there was a 15-day gap between quakes.
	There was absolutely zero activity.
	And then there was a Vancouver quake.
	It was a small one.
	And a six-day gap.
	And then it returned to rhythm.
	And then there was a series of 4.8 quakes.
	Right.
	And actually, I have a table assembled showing these statistics.
	Can I give out a web address?
	No, I would prefer that you do not, but you're welcome to email it to me and I'll check it out and give it out myself.
	Okay, and that's about it.
	Alright, thank you.
	Or we will get a link up to it.
	But I learned my lesson with regard to giving out web addresses that I'm not sure of.
	As you know, the U.S.
	Supreme Court, just very wisely in my opinion, ruled that adult materials on the web should not be restricted.
	Not that I am in favor of adult materials.
	Frankly, it gets pretty boring pretty fast.
	I mean, you can only see so many naked bodies and it's no longer enticing.
	However, Our first amendment is one of our most cherished amendments.
	The most cherished.
	Freedom of speech.
	And I think clearly the U.S.
	Supreme Court was dead right in saying the government ought to keep their sticky little fingers the hell out of the internet.
	So I'm very pleased that that turned out as it did.
	I'm also pleased that the U.S.
	Supreme Court told the government to keep its sticky fingers uh... from trying to force local authorities to do background checks in other words mandate that local governments do background checks on people who want to buy guns if the federal government wants to do that then they ought to do it and pay for it themselves and these unfunded mandates are so are way out of line and that is in essence what the court just told
	All of America, and all I can say is thank God for the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	They have not always done things that I have agreed with, but by and large, I have, after a period of time, agreed with them.
	Even with regard to flag burning.
	I used to be very much in favor of an amendment to make flag burning illegal.
	The more and more that I thought about it, the more and more I changed my mind.
	And I realized that though I object to it, the First Amendment allows even people like Benson, and with his horrid little cartoon, to do as they will.
	The First Amendment is very specific.
	It says, freedom of speech.
	Of course, in the case of Benson, I simply exercised my First Amendment objection to it, And, uh, action that I felt that, uh, we should take, but that's my First Amendment right.
	So, burn flags?
	Ugly, but yes.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from June 27th, 1997.
	Music Midnight at the oasis, send your camel to bed.
	Music Let's slip off to a sand dune, real soon.
	Kick up a little dirt.
	Come on, catch his old friend.
	He won't be that way.
	Come on, till the evening air.
	And this is the final half hour of Coast this week.
	the nineteen ninety seven and this is the final half hour of
	coast this week uh... sometimes like a good book it's hard to see it
	uh... coming up on dreamland this sunday is sarah heinz author of coming from the
	light spiritual accounts of life
	before life.
	you That should be very, very interesting.
	At any rate, right back for the final half hour.
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	You'll find it on Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
	What's going on around this planet right now are people who are just fed up.
	They're fed up with dictatorships, and they've had enough.
	Now the big question is, can it happen here?
	And I think absolutely.
	One day, if we continue to have this spread of the haves and the have-nots, this continuing push for a new world order, it could happen.
	Mark my word, it could happen here too.
	Let's hope not.
	Now, let's go back to the night of June 27th, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	The following comes from Steve in Portland.
	Cat survives 40 foot flaming free fall.
	From the state of Maine, East Corinth, is it?
	Corinth, Maine?
	If cats do, in fact, have nine lives, then Sparky has used much of his quota over the past few days.
	The silver gray cat spent three days trapped on a utility pole surviving thunderstorms and a jolt by a 7,500 volt power line on Tuesday That sent the flaming feline plummeting to the ground.
	There were sparks everywhere and then I saw the cat fall, Lucille Randall told the Banger Daily News.
	The incident briefly left 1,000 residents without electricity.
	Emergency crews who arrived to put out the fire saw smoldering grass where the cat had landed and were surprised to find Sparky meowing loudly But apparently otherwise unhurt, aside from a singed tail.
	Wow!
	The cat, believed to be less than a year old, apparently was homeless, at least before the incident, but now has been adopted by one of the firefighters who quickly gave it the appropriate name.
	Sparky.
	Flaming Cat Story.
	Welcome to the Rockies.
	You're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Yes.
	Yeah, Daniel from Portland.
	Yes, sir.
	Hi.
	I can't believe I got on here.
	I'm kind of nervous.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I just want to say, you know that guest you had on concerning the Bible code?
	Oh, yes.
	Of course.
	And we will have him on again soon, by the way.
	That is good, because I just went to Barnes & Noble today.
	I found it, and I can't remember his name, but I read through the whole book in one sitting, and I can only say that if I didn't believe in God before, I'm starting to think about it.
	You know, because that is, when you put your brain to it, like the odds that he puts, you know, all the predictions, all this and that, it's unbelievable.
	And I've also read books on the pyramid, the Great Pyramid of, you know, Giza.
	Yes.
	And the codes, you know, although some of it could be considered hype, you know, the combination between the Bible and the Great Pyramid, I think, is like almost astounding.
	Like, I'm just... Well, there are, you know, look, I think there are a lot of parallels To the way you become convinced that the whole reverse speech thing has something to it.
	It's more than just coincidence.
	It is congruent.
	As you look through the Bible codes, and you take my guest's take on it, which is that there's a very profound meaning that is intended to actually, if you follow it correctly, allow you to experience what is being said.
	That's a very profound way to look at uh... and it's a natural it to me it it it all fell into
	place uh... with my guest explaining it in the first hours going
	home and then all of a sudden it fell into place and i
	understood what he was saying
	uh... for example i thank you very much for example in genesis uh... we are told
	how our world came to be free.
	How man came to be.
	How light came to be.
	How everything literally came to be.
	And it is suggested that the codes in the Bible, and I think that there is no question that there are codes, that's mathematically an established fact.
	That they are designed to allow you to actually live it, to understand it, By living it and seeing it yourself.
	Very hard for me to explain here, but very profound, and we will indeed have Stan Tennant on again.
	Do the wild thing at 702-727-1295.
	We're going to have to eliminate that.
	The only thing we don't allow you to do is give your last name on the air, so let's try it again.
	Your name is Randy?
	Yes, Randy.
	I'm calling from Grand Prairie, Alberta, Canada.
	Okay, welcome to the program.
	Thank you.
	I just want to let you know I've been listening to your show.
	Actually, it was by accident since about March.
	I do some driving in my occupation, and late one night I was looking for a station to listen to, and I heard your show and been listening ever since.
	Well, that's how I get a lot of listeners, by accident.
	Anyway, I just want to say congratulations on your award.
	Oh, thank you.
	And I just wanted to let you know that This David Oates, that's an amazing thing that he's doing with the reverse speech.
	I think that stuff's incredible.
	It is incredible, and I think it's getting close to undeniable, in my opinion.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I would have to agree.
	One thing I want to just ask a question about was, I was listening to the show you had, it was a couple of weeks back, I believe, about the time travelers online there, and the one gentleman that had called in, he had Made some predictions or whatever that he would call back again in a month's time or something like that.
	Now, I know that you had made mention the other night about the major transportation accident, which was that, I believe, the train wreck down in Texas.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, but you know what?
	What?
	You know the mirror problem?
	Yes.
	Oh, that would make sense too, wouldn't it?
	Yes, it would.
	And it is certainly ongoing, isn't it?
	Yeah, that's true.
	Um, yeah, I never even thought about that until you just, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
	That's why you do the show.
	Um, anyways, um, what I wanted to, uh, also, uh, make mention about or ask about was, do you have any idea as to, uh, about the, one of the other ones that he had mentioned was, uh, the celebrity that was supposed to be, uh, named or something like that?
	Well, there is a story running, um, uh, that ran yesterday.
	uh... about a very famous russian personality uh... who's now being investigated uh... and or charge with uh... molesting underage uh... children yes i'm afraid it is and so i you know the ripples excuse that from that program we're so tremendous that we are going to do another Probably next week.
	Timeline show.
	It's irresistible.
	Do you have a day in mind that you want to do that because I'm going to be out on the road?
	No, I honestly can't say I do yet.
	I do this program by the seat of my pants.
	Generally, I sort of pick a night and I know when something feels right and that's when I do it.
	I know that sounds dumb, but that's how I do it.
	I have one more question just before I take up your time here.
	Sure.
	I don't know if you've heard about that movie that they have nowadays that they've let out on video or whatever, Mars Attacks.
	Yes, I do.
	Okay.
	Now, I was kind of watching that, and I don't know if I remembered it correctly or not, but I think I heard you mention About the location that you are down in Nevada.
	Yes, I'm in Pahrump, Nevada.
	Okay, that's what I thought.
	Yes, Pahrump, Nevada was destroyed.
	I thought it was a little too coincidental myself.
	Thank you very much.
	I understand Tim Burton is a fan of the show.
	Good morning, Tim.
	That was a little too coincidental, Pahrump, Nevada.
	I almost fell over when I saw it.
	You know, people called me and faxed me about that when Mars Attacks came out.
	And, um... When I finally saw it for myself, I almost fell on the floor.
	It's true, my little town, Pahrump.
	Actually, it was a section of bleachers shown out in the middle of the desert that was supposed to be Pahrump.
	It was actually filmed in Arizona.
	But they took great pains to make sure that it was called Pahrump, Nevada.
	And, uh, it was not an accident.
	It was not a coincidence.
	In the best tradition of Richard Hoagland and company, I guarantee it was not.
	By the way, again, the photographs, uh, that Richard Hoagland promised, that a very nice lady, um, uh, struggled to get, finally did get up on the web.
	And they're on my website and Richard's website now, the Enterprise Mission website.
	And you're going to want to take a good look.
	One very telling photograph shows a security camera inside the pyramid, pointed directly at the wall, which is a big no-no.
	Another photograph shows a portion of the tunnel, the actual tunnel that they were talking about, going from the King's Chamber down toward the Queen's Chamber, and we have yet to hear what the repercussions are from all of that.
	But it was, when we finally got to it, an amazing revelation.
	And if you want to see the photographs that back it up, and there are going to be many more, but the initial three that back it up, they're on the website now.
	It's www.artbell.com.
	You're going to want to get up there sometime or another this weekend.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hi, this is Dave.
	Hi, Dave.
	I'm from St.
	Louis, Ellsbury.
	Maybe you've heard of Ellsbury.
	We've had a few sightings out this way.
	Where is that?
	Ellsbury, Missouri.
	It's a little community a little bit north of St.
	Louis.
	Yes, sir.
	Watchin' that hard copy today.
	Dave, would you turn your radio off for us?
	Yeah, hold on a second, please.
	Sure.
	Alright, it's very important.
	You'll get very confused, and so while I try to listen to it... Okay, there we go.
	And I'm glad I got in before you went off for the night.
	And this lady was on there, and she said she'd been abducted like, I think, hundreds of times.
	And a beam of light took her out to the spaceship, and she was up there with kids, and playing Where they can move the ball around with their minds.
	Oh yes.
	It's very interesting and your show I just want to call and say your show is very interesting and I work strange hours so I've never seen one but they say the truth is out there.
	The truth is out there.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Take care.
	The truth is out there.
	And I don't think that yelling and screeching and calling names Uh, is a way to get to the truth.
	I have seen now in my life two things that I utterly cannot explain.
	I do not leap, as in faith, to the conclusion that what I saw was extraterrestrial.
	Uh, but I absolutely believe that what I saw is either, well, is a big story no matter what you, no matter which way you look at it.
	In other words, our government, or some other government, has developed craft that are capable of doing things generations maybe even centuries ahead of what we believe we can do or we are being visited from elsewhere but no matter which way you look at it it's a big story and uh... invective and name-calling is not going to change that at least certainly in my mind
	Only a careful, continuing investigation of something that... As a matter of fact, there was an article in the Arizona Republic that I felt was quite reasonable that ran the other day, and the lady said, you know, I really never believed in any of this sort of thing, and I'm sorry I can't think of her name just at the moment, but a rational look at what has occurred over our city Demands a reasonable person begin to consider the possibility that we are being visited.
	And I would have to agree with that.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes, sir.
	You're on the air.
	Oh, this is Al from San Marcos, California.
	Hello, Al.
	Did you read in your Wednesday's paper about the V-shaped lights that you had over Area 51?
	No, it was actually over Las Vegas, Al.
	Well, I'm just saying... Just to the north of Las Vegas, actually.
	Yeah, it was in the northwest section of the city.
	Yes, Area 51 is quite a bit...
	A farther north.
	No, they put it that it was over Area 51.
	Well, it sounds better that way, I suppose.
	Yeah, I just wondered if you've seen that.
	Oh, you bet I did.
	Okay.
	It was considered a major sighting, Al.
	Thank you.
	You bet.
	Take care.
	Yes, again and again, Las Vegas, Phoenix, you name it, millions of Americans have seen things like I have seen.
	Like the people of Las Vegas have seen, like the people of Phoenix have seen, and the people of Roswell, and so many other cities.
	And if you wish to ignore evidence like that in Mexico, where there have been collisions with UFOs, damaging aircraft, near misses, many, and objects so frequently seen that the Mexican public nearly dismisses them as normal.
	If you can dismiss that with invective and name-calling, then go right ahead.
	But I think increasingly, large numbers of people are not going to be so easily influenced by disinformation.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	John Oates, that particular one where he says, sell the babble, I think it was babble.
	I think it was babble.
	Well, babble is more congruent, I think, with What he was saying, because it's obvious from that Air Force news conference that they were trying to sell extraterrestrials.
	I know, but if that man thought in his own mind that what he was issuing was babble, you know, if he understood in his own mind, subconsciously, that he was babbling, then that would be congruent.
	It could go either way, but I rather thought it was babble.
	I think they're trying to sell the idea that extra thresholds are dangerous, because... Well, maybe they are.
	I'm not necessarily... I certainly haven't made up my mind, A, that they even exist here on Earth, and B, if they do, I would say it's a good 50-50 proposition.
	I mean, they may not have our best interests in mind, you know?
	Or they might, which the Air Force doesn't like.
	Thank you, bye.
	Yes, sir.
	Take care.
	They may not have our best interests in mind, or they may.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yes, concerning the backwards speech.
	Yes, sir.
	Now, this is said to be what the subconscious is thinking.
	Yes, correct.
	Okay, and in children.
	The same thing.
	In children, even more dramatic, actually.
	We didn't get a chance to do it tonight, but from about three months on, there is reverse speech in children before they can even begin speaking in forward speech.
	That is so dramatic and so chilling.
	And I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to get to any of that tonight.
	Okay, well, why is it in English then?
	Well, because English English is our language, sir, in America.
	Now, if you go to France, you get reversals in French.
	What about an English toddler?
	What about an English... An American... About a three-month-old American child.
	Yes, what about it?
	In France, would they still speak English?
	If that child has been exposed to English by the parents, by those around it, then you would get English.
	If that American child was exposed to nothing but French, the, uh, reversals, uh, would be in French.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Art Bell.
	Yes, sir.
	This is Freeway, Central San Joaquin Valley.
	Welcome to the program, uh, which is rapidly ending.
	From KFRE, the blowtorch.
	Oh, I'll tell you, it's a big one.
	940, KFRE, Fresno.
	Yes, sir.
	Apparently, I got you at the tail end.
	If you got my mail, I sent you a tape.
	Take a look for it.
	I can't seem to get the quickening because however hard I tried, they never sent it.
	Oh, they'll send it.
	You'll get it.
	I asked for it a couple of weeks after the first printing was released.
	Listen, my program is over.
	You get the honors.
	Do it.
	America, the world, let's put Art Bell on the map big time.
	Open my piece of mail.

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