David Oates joins Art Bell to defend reverse speech, a "truth detector" exposing hidden messages in backward audio—like NASA’s Don Savage allegedly admitting Mars’ Sidonia region ties to UFOs or Roswell Colonel John Haynes confessing collusion ("we faked it," "ashamed of missile praying"). EEG tests from 1988 and Australian police cases back its claims, though Oates insists it’s technical, not interpretive. Callers pile on: a diabetic turtle outbreak in swamps, seismic gaps in Seattle, and Mars Attacks!’s "Perrump" nod to Bell’s show. While Bell remains skeptical of conspiracy angles, Oates’ method—now refined with direct wiring—reveals unsettling patterns, from JFK’s assassination ("he's shot bad") to Clinton’s profanity-laced subconscious. The episode blurs fact and fiction, leaving listeners questioning whether reverse speech uncovers buried truths or just the mind’s static. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning across all these many prolific time zoos.
From the Asian and Hawaiian Island chain to the west, eastward to the Caribbean, the U.S. Virgin Islands, South into South America, north to the country of the Pole.
On the internet, this is good morning, Mark.
We're going to venture into the world of reverse speech.
This morning, David Jones.
And we will get to, after a quick review of some NASA reversals, including some new ones you did not hear last time, we'll get to Colonel...
Colonel John Hayes.
Air Force Colonel who gave us what I think is the press conference of the year, explaining the Roswell incident.
I wonder if any of the reversals have anything to do with time compression.
We'll find out.
Anyway, David Oates with us this evening for a period of time and then no doubt some open lines ahead.
And that's kind of what we've got.
We'll play it fast and loose.
Oh, by the way, I want to welcome a brand new affiliate.
It would be KGNB, AM, New Brownville's, Texas.
Well, I hope I'm doing that right.
New Brownville's Texas is what it looks like.
They're 1420.
Minor but important differences.
1420 on the dial, 1,000 watts of raging Texas power.
And so welcome to the network.
Welcome to the program.
Glad they add yet another Texas station to the network.
All right.
David Oates really, let's see, what can I say about David?
David, I would guess, rose from relative obscurity about, well asked David, I think it was about a year ago.
I guess our relationship has been going on for about a year.
And David has himself a speech impediment.
He stutters a little bit.
And that more or less led him into a study, naturally, as you can imagine, of language.
And in the course of that study of language, he stumbled on a very, very interesting phenomenon called reverse speech.
Reverse speech would appear, and I am becoming more convinced the more I listen, would appear to reveal what a person is really thinking when you play, and now this is a very important part, when you play what they have said forward at the precise same speed in reverse.
The problem for the person being reversed is that it reveals their honest thinking, whether they like it or not.
And the more emotional they are, the more unguarded they are, the greater the revelations.
It's kind of like a truth detector.
Now, we have had a lot of conversations about the validity of reverse speech.
And what I want to tell you about is, as I have listened to reverse speech again and again and again, I have become convinced of its validity because of its consistency.
In other words, you do not get reversals that are not, to use David's good word, congruent.
You get consistently reversals that are congruent.
Whether they reveal the person to be telling the truth or a lie or simply not knowledgeable on the subject, they are always congruent with the subject being discussed in a forward direction.
So I have come personally to become more and more of a believer in the valid nature of reverse speech.
Now, a lot of you will have seen the incredible news conference by the Air Force.
Poor Colonel Haynes sent out there to do his duty for his country and try and tell us about compressed time and the fact that 1947 just wasn't what we think it was in Roswell, you know, a crashed disk, alien bodies and all the rest of it.
But in fact, we all suffered time compression, the Colonel's phrase, and that all of this really occurred in the 50s and even as late as 1960.
All of it didn't go down very well, frankly, with the public.
So it's going to be interesting to see the reversals.
That will be coming up in just a moment.
With reference to last night's program, I want to let everybody know that the photographs documenting what was said last night about the pyramids, and basically in the end,
after much preliminary discussion, it was revealed that there is a secret dig going on in the pyramid from the king's chamber down to the queen's chamber to gain secret access into a room that is otherwise barred.
and that this dig could only be going on with the permission of Zahi Hawass, who had some sort of confrontation, apparently, with the Egyptian authorities yesterday.
Well, actually, today.
Now, we don't have news of the result of that yet, but what we do have is the photographs in question.
We await Richard Hoagland's captioning of the photograph so we understand exactly what we're seeing.
But what we appear to be seeing, clearly, in one case, is a security camera turned to the wall instead of where it should be looking during a period of time that a dig is going on that should not be going on.
And we actually have a photograph of what appears to be that tunnel.
It is quite a remarkable sight.
All of that now is unbelievable.
up on my website so go take a look it's at www.artbell.com that's www.artbell.com and as soon as we get a a rendition of the precise explanation of the photographs you will have it all that in mind coming up in a moment david oates screenlink
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What's going on around this planet right now are people who are just fed up.
They're fed up with dictatorships, and they've had enough.
Now, the big question is, can it happen here?
And I think absolutely.
One day, if we continue to have this spread of the haves and the have-nots, this continuing push for a new world order, it could happen.
Mark my word, it could happen here, too.
Let's hope not.
Now, let's go back to the night of June 27, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
The NASA gentlemen representatives that were on my program were on for several hours.
we asked them many many pointed questions
wanted to know about with respect to NASA what Colonel Haynes said interestingly winds into a lot of what NASA said so as a setup we're going to do in a moment some of the NASA reversals as kind of a setup to what's coming with Colonel Haynes but first let me introduce you to Mr. Reverse Speech David Oates David welcome thank you David how long has our relationship
been going on.
Do you remember how long ago you first came on the program?
Well, once you look at all the evidence and hear the reversals and look at the direct relationship they have to the forward dialogue, their grammatical content and linguistic structure, when you add all that up, it just really becomes obvious that you're onto something.
I mean, you just look at the mathematical odds of it occurring by pure chance.
I mean, I don't know what they would be, but they would be incalculable, I would imagine.
Now, when I'm not on the air, I will admit freely that I use language like that occasionally.
Not all the time, and I think that people who use bad language all the time do so because they have a deficiency with regard to other words they might substitute that would have just as much impact.
But I like other people.
I use that kind of language occasionally.
And so I'm naturally curious, particularly when somebody is emotional, do you frequently get a lot of that kind of language in reverse?
from person to person yes that language is reasonably common some people will use it a lot more than others and a person who tends to use it once will use it over and over again and then other people you won't find it at all.
It really varies from person to person and each person in reverse speech has their own unique language that they use.
You can actually, there's been times in my office for example where I've, well particularly after the fire, some of our files got completely scattered all over the place and I would actually pull off some of the transcripts from the floor, they weren't labeled, and I could read down the reversals and tell you who that person was by the language structure that they were using.
Now, would it be true that if a person occasionally uses invective forward that it would turn up in reverse or would you find in a person who never, never in a forward way would use such language who in reverse does?
Yeah, you know, one of the most amusing reversals I have got that I just would dying to play it on the air.
I don't get in the music or song very often, but Popeye the Sailor Man, the theme song of Popeye the Sailor Man, when you run that in reverse, it says extremely clearly, give me an F, give me an F now.
Well, it's the one aspect of reverse speech that I have neglected to ask you about because I couldn't really deal with it in broadcast other than the way you and I have just dealt with it.
Yeah, there's a whole disturbing thing in Clinton's reversals and not just Clinton, the whole political scene about one of the themes I really would like to understand is who is controlling Clinton and the politicians.
All right, why don't we give them an example of reverse speech?
As a matter of fact, the early examples don't even have to be NASA.
They can be just a couple of classics because inevitably I have new affiliates.
We're getting them at a rate that is not to be believed and there are going to be some people out there who have never in their life heard reverse speech.
many years it it I I Obviously I'm asking myself all the questions.
I've got to be imagining this.
There's some trick.
And even when I was documenting all the relationships, my doubt was so strong.
And I think a very significant turnaround for me was in 1988 when I was approached by a psychologist in Adelaide, who, Adelaide's my hometown in Australia, and he offered to do electroencephalograph testing for me.
Part of my theory or part of what I was documenting was entire conversations backwards, questions asked and answers given.
And so this man was saying, okay, well if you're claiming that conversations are occurring in reverse, then obviously the mind is hearing and responding and we should be able to track this on electroencephalographs.
And I won't go into all the details.
The experiment will take too long, but essentially we did the test blind.
He had no idea where the reversals were.
The people being conducted the test, who had the contest conducted on them, had no idea why it was being done and they would play tracks forwards, not backwards.
And right at the precise point where reversals occurred, there was rapid activity between the left and right brain hemispheres from the moment it started to the moment it finished, the actual reversal itself, and different parts of the mind were stimulated depending on the content of the reversal.
And I remember when he called me into his office to show me the results, and he didn't know what I had as well, because he didn't want to see my transcripts, and I had them timed out down to the precise second that they began and finished.
And I was sitting in his office sweating.
Perspiration was dripping From me, because this was one of my key points.
If we had registrations on an EG, this was an electronic device separate from my own ears, then I knew we were onto something and we were.
And that was a very significant turning point for me.
And it really, I started to work for the Australian Police in 88.
I got a Australian government grant also in mid-88 that kept me going to the end of 89 to research this.
And the work I did with the Australian Police was just stunning.
There was not a case I worked on where we did not find either, in one case we found the locations of the murder weapons, in another case we found the name of the bank and branch where the man had hidden funds.
And it just kept on validating itself like this over and over and over again.
And finally, I would say I've been probably for three years now at the point of total belief that this is real.
I'm getting there myself, and the reason is because I have a very critical audience.
In other words, they will go away and investigate themselves, and hundreds, maybe thousands of them have, after your programs, gone away and done their own work.
And they come back to me with letters and email and faxes and they say, oh my God, I tried it myself.
I'm constantly surprised that someone hasn't spent the time to analyze this before.
But, you know, I mean, I guess that's human nature.
What's staring at us right in front of our face, we forget.
And some of the most profound discoveries are very, very simple, as is this.
Anyway, all of that was leading up to the reversal I'm just about to play, which is one of the old classics, which I'm sure I've played on your program before.
And this is back in 87.
And I'm saying forwards, I've got people coming to me and saying, David, I want to know what's going on inside my head.
And all I do is play tape backwards.
I've been suddenly struck with this role where I have people coming to me and saying, David, I want to know what's going on inside my head.
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And I think, funny, how you're asking me, all I do is play tape backwards.
And reverse speech explains itself very, very well.
You just got to look at the reversals and they're extremely clear.
And my whole approach to this, I've really adopted the asteroid probably back in the late 80s that I don't know anything.
I don't know anything about the mind, how it works, how it functions.
But if reverse speech really is the voice of the unconscious or whatever you call that term, then let it teach me how the mind works and how human behavior works.
And that's been my entire approach.
I've learned everything from what reversals have told me.
Well, while you are clearly the father of public reverse speech, in talking with Richard Hoagland, he seemed to indicate that he acknowledged that our government, certain agencies in our government, have been utilizing reverse speech for some years.
And I know you've talked with him.
Does that make sense to you that quietly, covertly, the way our government does most stuff, it has been utilizing reverse speech?
But one rumour I've heard from three different sources now, two of which I consider to be very reliable sources, claim that there was a joint research project conducted in the late 70s between the CIA and the British Secret Service on looking, obviously they didn't call it reverse speech, not that I'm aware of, but into backward messages in language.
And the rumour goes that they actually cracked a major terrorism controversy at the time using reverse speech.
Someone found, I can't remember the specifics of the story now, but someone found in reverse on one of the suspected terrorists the location of some key device and they cracked the case.
I've heard that consistently.
I've heard another rumor from two different sources that a naval research academy located south of San Francisco was using it also in the late 70s for debriefing POWs.
But that's a shady rumor.
I'm not sure on that one.
But yeah, I've heard rumours myself and it would make sense.
I actually lectured in Washington, D.C. on this in 91 to mid-level reps of some of these agencies.
They didn't come in with a great deal of scepticism, not that I could tell.
They came in willing to learn and they got more excited as time went on.
Part of the meeting, they were going to get in contact with me.
I sent a lot of my research notes off to one particular agency, which I regret doing now, but I did.
I never heard back from them.
Obviously, The most amazing thing is I actually taped the whole four-day meeting and I've still got those audio tapes and so I can verify that this actually did take place.
And that was in 91.
And given the implications of reverse speech and I'm not in the least bit surprised that we'll be doing work on it and the last thing that the government would want is the public to know and be aware of this technology.
Someone with not much technical knowledge did that.
Quite frankly, it sounds like someone put the pause button on.
It sounds like I got a tape back that was taped on a very cheap tape recorder and the pause button was put on and then removed when those two lines were spoken.
Have you, since the fire and in your new location, have you received any additional threats, you know, phone calls, things you would consider suspicious or worry about?
Someone got into the office, disabled the alarm system, and got, actually, they went into the counting programs and downloaded the counting files and scrubbed out a couple of client files.
They burned his house down, and about a week ago, they broke into his new house.
As you can imagine, a technology with this sort of potential is dangerous for the author of it.
I've got some news here on a volcano, and it is true.
Associated Press reporting that Montserrat is let go.
Lying over villages of smoldering debris, rescue workers searched Friday for islanders killed when Montserrat's volcano erupted, gushing, get this, rock, ash, and gas hot enough to melt steel girders.
The body of a young man recovered, raising the death toll to seven thus far.
And remember, this is one they were ready for.
13 people were missing from Wednesday's eruption, nine of them presumed dead after they became caught in fast-moving flows of debris.
The government has ordered 1,500 more people evacuated from the area.
And other West Central Villages Friday, after two smaller eruptions, set a deadly mixture of ash, rock, and gas, often heated to 930 degrees, hurtling down the mountainside that stopped less than two miles from Cork Hill.
So she's letting go, and we're just going to have to watch very carefully.
We're getting quite a few reports now, but Maserat is in eruption.
Back to David Oates in a moment.
We're going to begin with some you've heard and some you have not heard of the NASA reversals.
Don Savage, Ray Villard were my guests from NASA for about three hours.
And there is some new material to be heard.
And then we are going to move on to the incredible news conference held by the Air Force being kind here.
And I was a member of the Air Force with regard to Roswell by a colonel, you'll recall, Colonel John Haynes, who forevermore now is going to be connected to the expression time compression.
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What's going on around this planet right now are people who are just fed up.
They're fed up with dictatorships, and they've had enough.
Now, the big question is, can it happen here?
And I think absolutely.
One day, if we continue to have this spread of the haves and the have-nots, this continuing push for a new world order, it could happen.
Mark my word, it could happen here too.
Let's hope not.
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You know, there is terrorism out there, so in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, that would create this terror to continue to control us.
I think you're absolutely correct.
But of course, anybody that's followed the process of government throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always speaks more.
And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
It's just a matter of time.
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Now let's go back to the night of June 27, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Don Savage and Ray Villard were on my program, one representing NASA, the other representing the Hubble telescope aspect of NASA.
They spent a good, I think it was a good three hours with me on the air, a very remarkable program, mainly coming on to answer and refute a lot of what Richard Hoagland and others have said about NASA.
And of course, in due time, we set our good friend David John Oates, Mr. Reverse Speech, on to looking for reversals in the course of that program.
Okay, this is the one that's from Ray Villard, and he's talking about how they select the projects they're going to fund, and he's particularly talking about Hubble in this case, but it's a general discussion of how they choose what they're going to do.
The selection on who gets to use Hubble is made by committees, peer-reviewed committees of other astronomers who come to Baltimore, meet at the Institute, they sort through the proposals, make their recommendations to our director, and in reverse we hear him thinking about another project they wanted to look at, the way I understand reverse speech, and it says backwards, what's locked up with their starship, this needs to be known.
One of the things I've become firmly convinced of in my many years of work with reverse speech is that we are basically, at the core nature of our beings, honest.
We are essentially honest.
And the dishonesty that has built into, that has crept into our world over forever, how many centuries it's been going on, is not our natural state of being.
And one of the functions of reverse speech is to correct that, to make us honest in spite of ourselves.
And some researchers claim that part of the reasons for dreams is to release deep uncontinent, to release emotional feelings and expressions that we don't normally express.
And I maintain reverse speech does the same thing.
It's to release the truth.
And if we didn't do that, we would psychologically collapse.
Certainly if you do the math, the probability is very high, almost 100%, that there is life out there and a very good chance that there's intelligent life somewhere out there.
Well, there is a lot of thinking, David, that the dinosaurs, the Israeli scientists right now, believe the dinosaurs were made extinct not by some sort of K-T event, you know, an asteroid crashing in, but rather some sort of radiation crashing into the Earth.
And so I would understand if that's what he thinks.
And it was you were presenting it as a rumor, but he obviously knew this was more than a rumor.
It was real enough to be causing fear.
All right.
And another question you asked him was about the conditions of the Mir space station, which as we since know, you probably have a better idea what's happened than I do, but I believe there's been major disaster there since then.
he's trying to downplay it forwards but in reverse he says shows this old bucket Michelle wished to fill a bucket Obviously, it's not in good condition.
Well, we're all waiting to see if Pathfinder somehow magically ends up at Sidonia instead of the 19.5 degree landing spot they had picked out.
Anyway, we're involved with Sidonia.
Give me a break.
There is no way that cannot be exactly what that man was thinking.
Is there any other way any of you out there can imagine the word Sidonia could just pop up in reverse?
Only perhaps in a world where time compression has become a natural fact, right?
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Tonight's an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from June 27, 1997.
I mean, all of the ones that seem to be coming, other than the gentle references to Zidonia, seem to involve fear, guns, shielding, forts, forts, not friendly talk.
Now there was this most amazing, amazing news conference.
Colonel John Haynes came out just ahead of the 50th anniversary of Roswell and gave us the third explanation of how we all got mixed up and thought a spacecraft might have crashed in 1947.
The only problem with what he was saying, of course, was that all of the film clips and all of the incidents he referred to regarding dummies, that was the new one, came six years after the event in 1947 that there is so much evidence to support.
He couldn't come up with one shred of evidence that pointed to the year 1947, not anything.
And I had a million facts and emails.
Nobody bought what he was saying.
And the question, I guess, is, as we approach the reversals that we're about to hear, is, was he buying it?
I'm just going to pull one from the middle of the track, and then we'll start from the beginning and work to the end.
This is a significant one to play right now, considering we just played the NASA reversals.
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I'm sorry, I just don't have any information with that.
All I know is what the Air Force did, and if you overlay much of their claims, and you look at the Air Force scientific research, you can see it's obvious that what we're talking about at Roswell.
All I know is what the Air Force did, and if you overlay much of their claims and you look at the Air Force scientific research, you can see it's obvious that what we're talking about at Roswell Oh, no, absolutely not.
I am constantly amazed by the implications of reverse speech.
In time when the public and the authorities begin to realize that this is real and it's more than just the ravings of a fringe group, when they begin to realize it's real, the implications are just staggering.
I mean, it's staggering.
There's nothing that you can hide anymore.
And I believe that with every ounce of my being.
This is the truth.
Okay, so let's continue.
Let's begin.
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I'm sure I'd like to show you this book.
Tell you, pay $18 and head for the door, but there are two armed guards right there, and they're not going to let me out of that easily.
Let me read my prepared statement, and then we will roll a short video that Captain McAndrew will talk about, and where he says, when we will roll a short video backwards, it says, we faked it.
Well, without specific knowledge of what did occur at Roswell, but simply with knowledge that what did occur at Roswell, he knew something happened and he knew he was out there presenting inaccurate information.
And you would expect that would be about the level of knowledge this poor colonel sent out to do the impossible would have.
Yeah, he doesn't give much away in terms of what really happened, because I don't think, quite frankly, this man knows, based on the reversals, he knows that there's some collusion going on with NASA, the first one.
He knows he was given a job to do.
He rode with the plans.
I don't know how he specifically faked the video, but it was, well, we faked it.
I've begun to find out that a lot of times, David, after you're on the air, reversals that you're unsure of, people out there glom onto and they attach meaning to them or think they know.
And I get a lot of facts as an email.
And people will say, here's what David missed, or here's what they were actually saying.
After the last broadcast, I spoke to Richard Hoagland the following couple of days or the following week and a lot of the things that I was presented on your program that I didn't really know what meant or had no knowledge of it, Richard was just tickled pink about it because he was saying, I've been saying this for years and years and years and what you uncovered in reverse is what I know to be true.
And it's just an extra validity for me and for those around.
Because I have no knowledge, because I have no bias.
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What's going on around this planet right now are people who are just fed up.
They're fed up with dictatorships, and they've had enough.
Now, the big question is, can it happen here?
And I think absolutely.
One day, if we continue to have this spread of the haves and the have-nots, this continuing push for a new world order, it could happen.
Mark my word, it could happen here too.
Let's hope not.
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You know, there is terrorism out there.
So, in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, that would create this terror to continue to control us.
I think you're absolutely correct.
But of course, anybody that's followed the process of government throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always seeks more.
And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
It's just a matter of time.
Now let's go back to the night of June 27, 1997 on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
David, we're just picking up a new audience, so we just began on the reversals of this poor colonel, and I would like to go back to the first one you did and repeat it.
Can we do that?
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Are we talking about the we faked it or the share a secret with NASA?
Sorry, I just don't have any information for that.
All I know is what the Air Force did, and that if you overlay much of their claims, and you look at the Air Force scientific research, you can see it's obvious that what we're talking about at Roswell, and here we have reversal on this.
Okay, in his book, Colonel Corso talks about, get this, shielding our space vessels and satellites from electromagnetic pulse weapons from EBEs, that's extra terrestrials, extra biological entities, actually.
And now we get into a little bit of the motivations of why they're doing this.
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Bodies observed in the New Mexico desert were probably test dummies that were carried aloft by U.S. Air Force high-altitude balloons for scientific research.
And again, this is why we led with the NASA stuff, folks, because there would obviously be a connection, and we're establishing one again and again and again with the poor colonel's reversals.
Well, it makes sense that a lot of what we would hear, frankly, since we don't really know what's going on and we only have suspicion, wouldn't make sense to us.
I mean, I still like my image of the meeting where the Colonel was told he was going to be the one to go out and talk about time compression by the general.
Son, you've got to go out there and you've got to do your duty for your country.
Compression, time compression, son.
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I never got the guest name, but he spent the entire show ragging on Roswell, Whitley Streeber, and UFOs in general, while praising the Air Force Colonel person, or Colonel John Haynes, that did the press conference on C-SPAN this week.
Well, Don, that's incredible.
I wonder how anybody could praise that presentation.
And I would be very interested in where he found the merit and how he dealt with the minimum six-year time compression the Colonel couldn't account for.
Oh, my.
Ah, well.
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Art Bell Let me read you a quick facts coming from British Columbia, Ian in British Columbia.
Art after listening to the air farce, is the word, description of the true, in quotes, events concerning Roswell.
They continue to get into deeper doo-doo, don't they?
I just howled this morning when headline news featured yet another report stating the residents of Roswell may have confused an injured Air Force pilot who had sustained head injuries resulting in a swollen cranium with a supposed alien.
This is truly great entertainment, and I look forward to the Air Force's next press release.
It refers to a grand deception, master manipulation.
It's a very powerful metaphor.
If I see someone with a Lucifer metaphor, I'm going to take great caution and great respect.
here's someone you don't want to mess with and it just gives And actually, it's interesting you commented it very clear because the metaphors are actually clearer than the regular conscious reversals that I generally tend to play mostly.
One day, I'm going to release the whole metaphoric nature of reverse speech, which quite frankly is over 70% of all reversals are metaphoric in content.
And some of their messages are chilling.
But I think the public's got enough problem dealing with reverse speech alone without bringing that one in.
Let's just run that forwards and reverse the Lucifer reversal again.
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There is a facility in Roomlake, Nevada.
Quite frankly, I have no knowledge or expertise in the matters.
I understand there are classified things that go on there, and that's all I have to say about it.
God, that is deserving because I have thought, you know, right through watching Colonel Haynes in his performance, my word, that that's exactly what he was doing and what he thought he was doing, David.
You know, the very first reversal, he rode with the plans.
This is what he was told to do, and this is what he did.
I think he was probably chosen because he didn't know a great deal.
He knew enough to be able to pull this off, but he didn't know a great deal.
He's doing it for the public service.
This is his job.
I don't see any maliciousness in this man at all in reverse, although when I say malicious, he has knowledge of events which when we get to the last two reversals concern me a little bit.
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You may have also concluded that we have been talking about other things about space and things of that nature, and this haltitude balloon research is quite fascinating.
Well, as usual, David, this has been absolutely stunning.
And as far as I'm concerned, more confirmation of the absolute validity of reverse speech.
Too much congruence here, far too much to have been any sort of coincidence.
Right.
And I would like to give you an opportunity to, again, carefully give out your phone number and any information you want the audience to have about your website or anything else.
Well, what we really need right now is people to be trained to use this technology.
You know, since the last broadcast, our phones have not stopped ringing.
I've got requests for tape analysis.
I've got people wanting this and that.
And we need people to come and help.
Now, there's several ways that you can do that.
You can take training.
We have a correspondence course that you can do it at home.
A next in-house training is not starting until January.
And now that we've been approved by the state of California, it's a very legitimate mainstream college.
I'm expecting that the career opportunities in this will be immense.
And let me give my 1-800 number for that, and then we'll continue talking.
It's 1-800-669-5789.
That's 1-800-669-5789.
We also have the machines available where you can do it yourself.
We have a special on this week because we had such an influx of business from the last show where anyone who wants to get a machine now will get included in that, a free video on how to use your machine, on how to find reversals.
Just a very quick, well, I think it's an hour and a half on how to use it and how to find reversals.
That will be included with the order.
My book is an absolute must, quite frankly.
It goes right into the details of how to find them, how to locate them.
It covers a lot of my very earlier technical tests, the blind testings that I've done to verify this, the history of reverse speech.
It goes into a large section on therapy, politicians, O.J. Simpson, the whole gambit.
Yes, I've been involved in radio since I was old enough to get up and twist the knob and begin to take my mom's appliances apart.
It has always taken my breath away.
Radio.
It's still magical after all these years.
You know, to me, the fact that you can send a signal through the air thousands of miles, hundreds, thousands of miles, sometimes to the very other side of the earth, it's magical.
It's magic.
It's always been magic to me.
And I can remember the very first contacts I had when I was a ham by code, you know, we call it CW.
And it took my breath away, believe me, and it still does.
And what I do here on the radio is kind of an extension of that.
Not kind of, it is.
A lot of times when I get off commercial radio, I'm on ham radio.
In other words, I'm a hopeless case.
And I think I always will be.
Here I am at 52 years of age.
And I haven't changed.
So the odds are pretty good, you know, from 12 to 52 regarding my first license.
I'm not going to change.
I'm always going to be this way about radio.
And Ken writes me another fax here, again, urging me to do what Laura Schlesinger is doing.
Laura Schlesinger, according to Ken, has an hourly advertisement urging station managers or program directors or whoever to vote for her for the Marconi Award.
I just, Ken, couldn't do that.
Wouldn't do that somehow.
You know, on the air, I just wouldn't do that.
I just wouldn't lobby for it.
Unless what I'm saying right now amounts to a lobby for it.
That's as much as you're going to hear.
I'm not going to have any hourly campaign to lobby for the Marconi Award.
But I am deeply honored to even be considered for the Marconi Award.
I mean, radio really has been my life.
Not just commercial radio, not just what I'm doing here, but radio in general.
The absolute magic of radio.
So the award would be an honor in that respect.
What we're doing here, and Ken mentions the forum.
And he's right about that.
What we're doing here is a very different kind of forum.
So in my opinion, it will either be recognized as that, and something very different than is going on anywhere else, or not.
But simply being nominated for it is honestly enough for me.
And I'm just not going to have an on-air lobbying campaign, which the National Association of Broadcasters absolutely does allow.
I mean, it's like the Academy Awards or something, you know.
You can lobby for it.
You can have advertisements for it and all that kind of stuff.
But nah.
I don't think so.
I wouldn't feel right about it.
I just, you know, I just wouldn't feel right about it.
And so I'm not going to do that.
But thank you, Canon.
I thank you very much for your concern.
Now, referring to the Tom Snyders, I guess Tom Snyder had somebody named Harlan Allison on, a science fiction author.
No, I have not heard of him.
He did not come across, well, according to Jim and Redondo Beach, he would not listen to one word of anybody who disagreed with him.
He even lowered himself to calling some of the callers' names.
According to him, everyone in Roswell is, I'm quoting, a farmer or a hick.
Tom Snyder, he says, just lost a lot of credibility with me.
Well, Jim, don't take it out on Tom Snyder.
He just is doing a talk show.
Take it out on the person who would use that sort of tactic.
I will refer you back to a sort of a debate that we had on the air between Jim Deletoso, who I consider to be a very level-headed guy, and an Arizona member of MUFON, who I did not consider to be so level-headed.
But I let it go.
I let them go at each other.
And Jim Deletoso, to his credit, did not really go at the guy.
But the other guy came at him.
And a lot of it was ad hominem attacks.
And to the listener, and that's what I do on this program that I don't think is done very frequently elsewhere.
I allow all of you to be the judge of the credibility of the people that you're listening to.
I don't try to tell you what to think.
That's no slam against Rush.
I let you be the judge.
And inevitably, you're a pretty good judge.
In other words, I thought as I listened to the debate that Mr. De Latoso was behaving as a gentleman and was coming across as a careful researcher.
And I thought the other side did not exhibit those qualities.
And sure enough, I had hundreds of messages that generally agreed with that.
So that's the way I choose to do this program.
It's just a forum.
It's a place where things happen and where they're spontaneous and where I try to help people tell their stories.
And if they want to come on here and slam around with ad hominem attacks against people, then they dig their, you know, there's an old saying about giving somebody enough rope, right?
It absolutely applies.
And my opinion of my audience is that you all can decide that for yourself.
You don't need me screaming and yelling at somebody or shining a bright light in their face or coming at them 60 minutes style to judge.
As a matter of fact, the more rope you give somebody, the easier it becomes to judge their credibility.
And that's what I think my forum is, and that's what I think radio ought to be all about.
And so, again, that brings me back to my career in radio, many long years now.
And again, I'm honored simply to be nominated or one of the five finalists for the Marconi.
And I have a lot of respect for the name Marconi, as you can imagine.
Can you imagine what it must have been like in Marconi's days?
What radio must have been like?
When the first crude spark transmitters actually managed to get across the Atlantic Ocean?
And I'm old enough, of course, to remember some of the first early crude radios, because I built a few of them, thank you very much.
And I treasure those days, although new radios are kind of nice.
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And the reason is because the inflection, the amount of pressure somebody's under, the emotional nature of the response to a question is going to be different each time.
And so you're not necessarily going to get exactly the same thing.
If you managed to say it with the same inflection, the same emotion, then yes, you would.
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So it's like subconsciously you're able to somehow arrange words.
I wanted to ask you if you were aware that at one time Nikola Tesla paid for Marconi to come over to the United States when he was doing a lot of experimentations and wireless transmissions.
But I learned my lesson with regard to giving out web addresses that I'm not sure of.
As you know, the U.S. Supreme Court, just very wisely, in my opinion, ruled that adult materials on the web should not be restricted.
Not that I am in favor of adult materials.
Frankly, it gets pretty boring pretty fast.
I mean, you can only see so many naked bodies and it's no longer enticing.
However, our First Amendment is one of our most cherished amendments, the most cherished, freedom of speech.
And I think clearly the U.S. Supreme Court was dead right in saying the government ought to keep their sticky little fingers the hell out of the internet.
So I'm very pleased that that turned out as it did.
I'm also pleased that the U.S. Supreme Court told the government to keep its sticky fingers from trying to force local authorities to do background checks.
In other words, mandate that local governments do background checks on people who want to buy guns.
If the federal government wants to do that, then they ought to do it and pay for it themselves.
And these unfunded mandates are way out of line.
And that is in essence what the court just told all of America.
And all I can say is thank God for the U.S. Supreme Court.
They have not always done things that I have agreed with.
But by and large, I have, after a period of time, agreed with them.
Even with regard to flag burning, I used to be very much in favor of an amendment to make flag burning illegal.
But the more and more that I thought about it, the more and more I changed my mind.
And I realized that though I object to it, the First Amendment allows even people like Benson and with his horrid little cartoon to do as they will.
Of course, in the case of Benson, I simply exercised my First Amendment objection to it and action that I felt that we should take, but that's my First Amendment right.
So burn flags, ugly, but yes.
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What's going on around this planet right now are people who are just fed up.
They're fed up with dictatorships and they've had enough.
Now the big question is can it happen here?
And I think absolutely.
One day if We continue to have this spread of the haves and the have-nots, this continuing push for a new world order, it could happen.
Mark my word, it could happen here too.
Let's hope not.
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The End The following comes from Steve in Portland.
Cat survives 40-foot flaming free fall from the state of Maine, East Corinth, is it?
Corinth, Maine?
If cats do in fact have nine lives, then Sparky has used much of his quota over the past few days.
The silver gray cat spent three days trapped on a utility pole, surviving thunderstorms, and a jolt by a 7,500-volt power line on Tuesday that sent the flaming feline plummeting to the ground.
There were sparks everywhere, and then I saw the cat fall, Lucille Randall told the Bangor Daily News The incident briefly left 1,000 residents without electricity Emergency crews who arrived to put out the fire saw smoldering grass where the cat had landed and were surprised to find Sparky meowing loudly but apparently otherwise unhurt aside from a singed tail the
Cat, believed to be less than a year old, apparently was homeless, at least before the incident, but now has been adopted by one of the firefighters who quickly gave it the appropriate name, Sparky.
Look, I think there are a lot of parallels to the way you become convinced that the whole reverse speech thing has something to it.
It's more than just coincidence.
It is congruent.
As you look through the Bible codes and you take my guest's take on it, which is that there's a very profound meaning that is intended to actually, if you follow it correctly, allow you to experience what is being said.
That's a very profound way to look at.
And it's a natural, to me, it all fell into place with my guest explaining it.
In the first hour, I was going, huh?
And then all of a sudden, it fell into place and I understood what he was saying.
For example, thank you very much.
For example, in Genesis, we are told how our world came to be.
How man came to be.
How light came to be.
How everything, literally, came to be.
And it is suggested that the codes in the Bible, and I think that there is no question that there are codes, that's mathematically an established fact.
That they are designed to allow you to actually live it, to understand it, by living it and seeing it yourself.
Very hard for me to explain here, but very profound.
And we will indeed have Stan Tennant on again.
On to the wild thing, it's 702-727-1295.
We're going to have to eliminate that.
The only thing we don't allow you to do is give your last name on the air.
I just want to let you know I've been listening to your show actually was by accident since about March and do some driving in my occupation and late one night I was looking for a station to listen to and I heard your show and been listening ever since.
It is incredible, and I think it's getting close to undeniable, in my opinion.
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Yeah, definitely.
I would have to agree.
One thing I want to just ask a question about was I was listening to the show that you had, it was a couple of weeks back, I believe, about the time travelers online there.
And the one gentleman that had called in, he had made some predictions or whatever that he would call back again in a month's time or something like that.
Now, I know that you had made mention the other night about the major transportation accident, which was that, I believe, the train wreck down in Texas.
yeah i never even thought about that until you just That's why you do the show.
Anyways, what I wanted to also make mention about, or ask about, was do you have any idea as to about the one of the other ones that he had mentioned was the celebrity that was supposed to be named or something like that?
Well, there is a story running that ran yesterday about a very famous Russian personality who is now being investigated and or charged with molesting underage children.
Now, I was kind of watching that, and I don't know if I remembered it correctly or not, but I think I heard you mention about the location that you are down in Nevada.
You know, people called me and faxed me about that when Mars Attacks came out.
And when I finally saw it for myself, I almost fell on the floor.
It's true, my little town, Prump, actually it was a section of bleachers shown out in the middle of the desert.
There was supposed to be Perump.
It was actually filmed in Arizona.
But they took great pains to make sure that it was called Perrump, Nevada.
And it was not an accident.
It was not a coincidence.
In the best tradition of Richard Hoagland and company, I guarantee it was not.
By the way, again, the photographs that Richard Hoagland promised and a very nice lady struggled to get, finally did get up on the web.
And they're on my website and Richard's website now, the Enterprise Mission website.
And you're going to want to take a good look.
One very telling photograph shows a security camera inside the pyramid pointed directly at the wall, which is a big no-no.
Another photograph shows a portion of the tunnel, the actual tunnel that they were talking about, going from the king's chamber down toward the queen's chamber.
And we have yet to hear what the repercussions are from all of that.
But it was, when we finally got to it, an amazing revelation.
And if you want to see the photographs that back it up, and there are going to be many more, but the initial three that back it up, they're on the website now.
It's www.artbell.com.
You're going to want to get up there sometime or another this weekend.
You'll get very confused, and so will I try to listen to it.
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There we go.
And I'm glad I got in before he went off for the night.
And this lady was on there, and she said she'd been abducted, like, I think, hundreds of times, and a beam of light took her out to the spaceship, and she was up there with kids, and playing where they could move the ball around with their minds.
And I don't think that yelling and screeching and calling names is a way to get to the truth.
I have seen now in my life two things that I utterly cannot explain.
I do not leap, as in faith, to the conclusion that what I saw was extraterrestrial, but I absolutely believe that what I saw is either a big story no matter which way you look at it.
In other words, our government or some other government has developed craft that are capable of doing things generations, maybe even centuries ahead of what we believe we can do, or we are being visited from elsewhere.
But no matter which way you look at it, it's a big story.
And invective and name-calling is not going to change that, at least certainly in my mind.
Only a careful, continuing investigation of something that, matter of fact, there was an article in the Arizona Republic that I felt was quite reasonable that ran the other day.
And the lady said, you know, I really never believed in any of this sort of thing.
And I'm sorry I can't think of her name just at the moment.
But a rational look at what has occurred over our city demands a reasonable person begin to consider the possibility that we are being visited.
Yes, again and again, Las Vegas, Phoenix, you name it, millions of Americans have seen things like I have seen, like the people of Las Vegas have seen, like the people of Phoenix have seen, and the people of Roswell, and so many other cities.
And if you wish to ignore evidence like that in Mexico where there have been collisions with UFOs, damaging aircraft, near misses many, and objects so frequently seen that the Mexican public nearly dismisses them as normal.
If you can dismiss that with invective and name-calling, then go right ahead.
But I think increasingly large numbers of people are not going to be so easily influenced by disinformation.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Hi.
Hi, John Oates, that particular one where he says, sell the battle or sell the Babel.
Well, Babel is more congruent, I think, with what he was saying because it's obvious from an Air Force news conference that they were trying to sell extraterrestrials.
I know, but if that man thought in his own mind that what he was issuing was Babel, you know, if he understood in his own mind subconsciously that he was babbling, then that would be congruent.
It could go either way, but I rather thought it was Babel.
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Well, I think they're trying to sell the idea that extraterrestrials are dangerous because...
But from about three months on, there is reverse speech in children before they can even begin speaking in forward speech that is so dramatic and so chilling.
And I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to get to any of that tonight.