Doug Ruby, a commercial airline pilot and author of The Gift, reveals crop circles from 1990 onward encode advanced propulsion systems—like a ship powered by "hyperdimensional" energy—using sacred geometry and rotation. His wooden spinning machine deciphers patterns as 3D schematics, with NASA advisor Richard C. Hoagland linking them to universal physics, even matching formations on Mars and the Moon. Ruby insists others have built working models but were silenced, while callers question why governments haven’t acted. The phenomenon suggests a patient, ethical extraterrestrial message demanding human comprehension before sharing interstellar technology, hinting at a coming "breakthrough summer" tied to NASA’s STS-80 tapes. [Automatically generated summary]
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Good morning.
I have been advised that we may have some internet difficulties with regard to audio this morning.
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Now, having said that, this has been a remarkable day.
A remarkable day.
Tell you all about it in a moment.
We're going to talk about crop circles.
Now, my guest is going to verify this for you, because otherwise nobody would believe it, the synchronicity involved in this.
I got a very interesting facts earlier in the day, which suggested that, well, it says art, guaranteed to blow your mind.
Doug Ruby, author of The Gift, Crop Circles Deciphered.
The Crop Circles Deciphered.
And I thought, hmm.
Doug is in Melbourne, Florida.
He's a veteran commercial airline pilot.
And we'll ask him about that shortly.
But I thought, crop circles deciphered.
He's written a book.
And I thought, all of us, of course, have wanted to know what these crop circles are.
So about, I guess, midday for him.
Actually, morning.
Let me back that up even a little further.
I called him at about 6 o'clock in the morning my time, 9 o'clock his time back in Florida, and said, I really would like to talk to you about your book, Deciphering of Crop Circles.
And so we set it up for tonight, and he is going to be my guest here in a few moments.
Now the incredibly synchronistic part.
When I woke up, I got a pax that said, well, I'll read it to you.
It says, wow.
Hi, Art and Ramona.
Check out the latest Crop Circle at Stone Enge.
You can see a photo, aerial photo of the Crop Circle Connector, at the Crop Circle Connector website.
The words that popped into my mind immediately upon viewing it were, Tree of Life from Deborah in Santa Barbara.
So, it was the usual last-minute scramble, and I got Keith, who got to the connector page and downloaded the photograph and put in a link to the connector page.
And she is a beaut.
The new Stone Enge 97 Crop Circle, in obviously a new crop, a fresh crop, is up there to be seen right now.
So if you go up there under the new items, I think, or maybe it's a guest page, I'm not sure which, you'll see the name Doug Ruby, author of the gift, The Crop Circles Deciphered.
Then next to it, you will see a link to the Connector web page.
And if you have trouble with that, click on the other one, and you will see a picture of this newest received, I don't know, about an hour ago, aerial photograph of this incredible, incredible crop circle at Stonehenge.
So, pretty synchronistic, I would say, wouldn't you?
Coming up in a moment, Doug Ruby.
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First of all, I want to just thank you for bringing everyone out here to Cornea Copia.
Just phenomenal knowledge.
I don't know of anyone else that I've ever listened to at radio that just fills my brain and stimulates me.
But, You know, I was listening to the show and I thought to myself, do you think, George, the common citizen such as you or I, really has any hope towards the future of any privacy or anything else?
I think we do.
I think eventually so many people will see the light, see what you see, see what I see, that eventually they're going to say enough is enough.
And I think that we do have a future and we're going to win in the long run.
It's going to be bumpy along the way.
It's not going to be easy, but we will get there.
That's my take.
And you know what?
As long as I can continue on the earwaves and tell people this, I shall.
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Art Bell All right, everybody, don't forget we've got the live studio cams up.
And from time to time, I, of course, printed out in about the last 10 minutes a photograph of this incredible Stone Engel crop circle.
And I've been holding that up to the camera.
Now, in case you don't know about our studio cams, you can go to the top of the news section, I think it's still up there, and click on Studio Cam Live, and you will get high-quality, very high-quality photographs that are taken here in my studio about every 30 seconds, transferred to a server, and distributed from my website.
We've got three cameras working, all going at different angles, so you can sit here and sort of do a, I hear you on the radio and I see you on TV, sort of type deal.
And I will hold up this photograph, but my inclination is not to do that very much because you can, obviously you're already on the website.
You can go and look at this for yourself and see the actual photograph.
God, it's incredible.
Here is my guest from Melbourne Beach, Florida, Doug Ruby.
And what Darrett means by that, because he's well acquainted with it, is airline companies these days don't like their pilots talking about extraterrestrial UFOs and this area of endeavor.
Yeah, I started out knowing I wanted to fly when I was a kid.
Ended up having to go to college, didn't want to go straight in the military, but they didn't have that program at that time.
So got my four-year degree, then went in the Air Force, was immediately packed off to Southeast Asia, spent 18 months over there, came on back, got out after five years of duty, went in the airlines, been here ever since.
So you're not going to really see any crop circles from the air.
And the area in England where they're predominantly created, although they've been created everywhere in the world except, I believe, Africa and China.
And I just got one of my emails today was from the Craft Circle Society here in the United States, and they had a message from Czechoslovakia, a fellow over there, and they have a number of them every year.
Well, last year, pun intended, we really had a bumper crop, of course, some tremendous ones.
This is the one that we're looking at right now, and that my audience, I'm sure, is racing up to my website to take a look at, is one of the more interesting ones thus far in 1997, and of course it is at Stone Engel in what is obviously a brand new crop because it's very green.
So for the radio audience that doesn't have a computer and cannot get up there and take a look at this, can you describe, Let us begin with the newest.
Can you describe this crop circle that I'm looking at right now?
Yeah, just think of a circle, and there's one, two, three, four, five, six sides inside the circle, and then there are one, two, three, four, five, six spokes coming out from the center with what would appear as a crystalline structure.
The whole thing appears as a crystalline structure.
Just think of a snowflake, but more of a crystal structure than a snowflake.
But it's that type of image they've created here.
And Art and I were talking just a little bit before the show about this, because I just pulled it up.
If you took a pan, let's say a 15-inch metal pan, and you put some metal dust in it, iron dust in it, not filings, but dust, you put 16 magnets under that pan, run around there in a geometric pattern, and you energize these with a specific frequency, which would create a harmonic.
At some specific harmonic, you would create that pattern.
Yeah, no, what I'm trying to explain to you is, because what I'm doing now is what I deciphered and what's in the book, The Gift, does not apply to this.
There we're talking about a ship that they're showing us.
What they're showing us here is part of the power plant.
And what they're giving us here is a specific freak or harmonic.
And what they're giving us in this particular crop circle is when we energize these magnets with the harmonic, with this specific harmonic, that dust in that pan will take that formation exactly.
When you see it, you will know you've got the right harmonic.
Okay?
And that's how they build piece by piece and tell you how this thing operates.
You don't have to sit down and figure this stuff out.
You don't need any mathematics.
It's all ratios.
There is written instructions, unbelievably, that I've just discovered a couple months ago that pertains to all of this.
And I don't want to go into that right now, but I'm just explaining to you what you're looking at here, which nobody knows.
And that's not an ego trip, I say that.
I'm just saying I've been working on this for years.
In my book, I start off with the 1990 Crop Circles, and we don't want to go through the history of this thing, but these were the large pictograms that stunned the world back in 1990.
And then at the end of that, I believe it was that season, or it was the 91 season, Doug and Dave over there came out and, through their rehearsed put-up campaign, said, oh, we're making all of them.
And this ran around the world with the media.
And the interest just totally dissipated, except for the people that knew better, that had been there, that had seen them, and knew this was for real.
And years went by until there was more interest.
Now, I took the 90, 91 and a smattering of 92 formations, and these were, again, the large pictograms, and I deciphered these.
And from that, I have gone on for a very simple reason that when the book came out, the people that I thought would go poofa to it were the ones that went, wow.
And those were those with an engineering background, doctors, lawyers, professional fields, all went nuts over it.
What I did was, is I looked at these formations, and I said to myself, after reading a number of these books, you know, these can't be created by hoaxers, number one.
They're too large.
They're just unbelievable.
Then I said, well, I think that there's a higher form of intelligence that's trying to communicate with us, and they're using an advanced data technology to create these things to begin with.
And the question was, if you come to those two conclusions, why wasn't anybody deciphering them?
So I went and said, I can't do anything off-planet for an analogy.
I have to find something right here on Earth that I can make a relationship here between an intelligence, extraterrestrial intelligence.
How and why are they doing this?
What I came up with in an analogy that worked perfect was our friends, the dolphins.
The dolphins.
I looked at a dolphin show.
I was out in Vegas on a layover, and I went to, I don't know, Caesars Palace or whatever they're scout the dolphin show, and it hit me.
And I said, they're looking at the whole dolphin show.
They're sitting there in the audience watching the show.
And that's what everybody is doing with the crossroads.
They're hit every year with this tremendous array of patterns.
And by looking at the whole show, they aren't understanding what's happening here.
You have to look for the simple.
And I just, I know, and I talked to the dolphin trainers out there, and I said, how long does it take you to get this thing going from the get-go?
And they said, years.
They work with these animals before that communication is established.
And it starts off in very little steps with hand signs.
But now you have two beings that have a different language of their own, but they cannot communicate with their language between the two of them.
But they evolved a sign language that they understood and they could communicate with.
In a way, we're talking about the complex versus the simplistic, aren't we?
Going back to the basics.
To decipher crop circles, not by looking for the fractal complexities of them, but by going back to the basics in the way one might teach and begin to communicate with a dolphin.
I've got a reach of this.
Just cleared my fax machine.
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Anyway, so you looked at the way they instructed dolphins, which took a long period of time, and they began with the most simplistic, basic forms of communication and worked their way up to more complex commands or communication, depending on how you want to think about it.
You took a simplistic thing, one of the most simplistic crop circles, and you made a little attachment to a little piece of cardboard and you spun the thing.
It just leads you naturally to say, yeah, you know, if I toss this, so I put a button on the back and I toss it just for curiosity, and the rings just made a whole ring.
And what they're telling me is, I'm supposed to spin them.
Okay?
It's that simple.
Okay.
So then what I did is let's go get another one.
So the next one I could find, I couldn't find one that just had just interrupted rings or anything like that.
And it had an appendage on it.
It had something coming off of it.
And now it was out of balance.
So what am I going to do with this?
I can't spin this on a table like I just did.
But if I put a shaft on the back of it, glued a shaft on it, I roll it in my hands.
And I could see what that thing formed as it spun.
And I did that.
And it was really neat.
It formed more rings on the outside of it when I did that.
So I said, I mean, the formation transform, when you spin something like this, it becomes a blur in a way, but it works up to that blur, and it becomes something else.
Okay?
It transforms.
So now what I just learned was there's something in that formation they want me to see, definitely, because this was a six-petal flower that I did.
But what they were telling me, the main message was, you're supposed to put a shaft on these, Doug.
It was that simple.
Spin them, spin them by putting a shaft on them.
Okay, so at that point, I made another one, and it had longer appendages on it, but it was very interesting.
Now, this one had appendages going out even farther, extending out from the main circle even farther, and this was not going to balance very well on my hand.
And at this point, I said, I need to make a little machine that I can spin these on, that I can put the post in, and I can spin them.
And I went out and stopped my research at the time and went out and made a spinning machine.
I mean, if you think of the old 45 RPM, even the 78 RPM, how many RPMs do you think you have to get to to, and is it consistent or do you find at different, in other words, is there one RPM speed that seems to bring one result with nearly all photographs?
Got an electric fan motor, mounted it in the bottom, put a little piece of plastic tubing attached to that to the shaft, and then in the top of the top of the box, I drilled a hole and I put a round set of ball bearings in there with a center hole for The shaft in it, just bought them straight out of the hardware store.
And now the shaft would go on the top of the box and hook into that piece of tubing in the bottom, which would connect the shaft.
I had no way to explain to you, tell you exactly what RPMs I'm running.
I can tell you that these first cardboard models I had, I ran them so fast that they flew apart.
And then I knew I had to get a better material, and I went to wood.
And at that point, I went to the pictograms.
And when I did this, I found my prior knowledge applied immediately.
And let me explain this to your audience here.
These pictograms began appearing.
The first one was Alton Barnes in 1990.
This went around the world.
A couple of rock groups used it on their cover of their albums.
And they stunned everyone.
The visitors out there were in tremendous numbers.
What you've got here is a long shaft drawn in the field.
And they've got three rings on it, or three circles, one at each extremity of it, and then one in the middle, which is the largest one.
And there are rings within, there are concentric rings within that formation.
What I did was, as I looked at this thing, I said, I know I've got to pick it up, so I cut it out, I put it on cardboard, cut it out, and I've got this thing in my, this contraption in my hand.
I said, what am I supposed to do with this now?
Well, I've already done this with my prior crop circles that I picked it up and I put a shaft on it.
Now here I've already got the shaft.
And I say, these suckers are supposed to rotate 90 degrees.
It's obvious.
And I rotated all three 90 degrees.
And I said, what do I do now?
As I slid them together, all I made was a nice little sandwich.
I said, what's going on?
Well, just a week or two after that crop of Elton Barnes had been created, there was another one almost identical to it created in Crawley, but it had a couple of additions to it.
And I said, maybe these things are additive.
I don't know why, but let's do it.
And it was only four lines, vertical lines, between two of the two on each side of the post that separated two of these circles.
When I inserted them, this thing became a little ship on the shaft.
And when I spun it, it went three-dimensional on me.
And this is something we discussed earlier, real quickly, because I was trying to figure out how to do it, and I wanted to give the folks out there a present.
And I'm not giving it from me, I'm giving it from the Crop Circle creators to you.
Anyone who's out there listening to your programmer is looking into the unknown.
They have a desire for this, just like you and I do.
And I'm going to FedEx you tomorrow this all drawn out in the paper and a couple pages out of this book.
And all they're going to need is to download this, print it out if they are on the internet.
And all you need is a glue stick, glue it to a piece of cardboard, cut it out, and have either a pencil or a little bit longer shaft, a dial which you can buy in a hardware store or a hobby shop, and mount it on and you can make this thing yourself.
And when you do, you will have communicated with extraterrestrials.
I never, and I don't know why, when you look at nearly any crop circle, by the way, including the one that we have even tonight, just as you came on the air, when you look at it, it should be obvious that it is intended to be spun.
There is a center.
In other words, everything moves from a center.
And as you have described this, it hit me like a brick wall.
Once you get finished, and I'm not pushing the book here, but a lot of people I've talked to, a gal up in New Hampshire, I was doing a, she was interviewing me for a little thing in a magazine.
She said, Doug, I just read the book, and did you see the Crown Circle on TV last night?
And I said, yeah.
I said, since you've read the book, tell me, Eileen, do you know what it is?
She says, I knew what it was immediately.
She said, it's so easy.
I see it once you see it.
And there is a caution here.
There are many, many different forms of information conveyed by each of these information.
These folks are extremely intelligent.
They are going to hit you on a subconscious level.
There is a sacredness about them that when you visit the crop circles that you will feel this energy.
Doug, how specific is the message that we're getting?
Now, you said of the early crop circles back in 90, you were able to discern through the process you've described, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to make you describe it again after the next hour, a ship.
Now, when I asked you about the crop circle that we've got up on the website, the brand new one, you said it's part of a propulsion system or a drive system.
All they're showing you here is a specific harmonic.
And this is very simple to understand.
Geometry, sacred geometry, platonic geometry.
This is not tough stuff, okay?
If I understand it, it's not tough stuff.
Geometry equals frequency equals energy.
And you can put those in any order you want.
They have shown us the geometry here.
If we can convert that just by looking at this picture and setting up what I told you before, your magnets with your pan and running your frequency what you think it is close to, that iron dust in the pan, you will at some point match what you're looking at there.
When you do, you have that frequency that you need for that portion of the power plant.
And how do you know what portion of the power plant?
Because this crop circle that you see right here that was created within the last 24 hours will apply to the set of crop circles you're getting this summer.
And most likely we will not get maybe one more of this type this summer because they want us to know that this harmonic applies to the formations which apply to that section of the power plant.
What I'm doing here is, and believe this is a bear for me to assemble, to explain it to someone else in this book.
But I think I did a pretty good job.
And what we're doing, what I do here is I run through some of these formations, and the reader becomes acquainted with some of these various pictograms because they're different.
And then I go to a specific grouping of them which apply to the ship itself, to the shape of the ship.
And from these, we extract a saucer, a specifically designed saucer.
Well, what I'm trying to say to you is from this book, we apply what we've already seen in the crop circles.
And we apply this to the actual model.
And I go right through ascension, ascent, descent, lateral motion, longitudinal motion, angular motion, hovering, how it does it, how the ship actually does this.
And I allude to and explain in the back what we're looking at here, at where I was at that time, two years ago, what this power plant was, what was coming at me at that early stage.
And what has happened is many people I talked to said, Doug, I really love the book.
I saw it.
It slammed together about three-quarters of the way through it.
It took that long, but I stayed with it.
But I want to see it.
Show me.
And I'm going, my God, you think I have a trillion dollars?
One thing that you could do that, one way to show people, since you're equipped to do it, if you have a video camera, which I would bet you do, what would stop you from doing a video and then turning that into an AVI file that we could allow people to download and actually see this process underway?
What I've got coming up for you comes under the oh my God category.
Trust me on this.
Bear with me on this.
The subject is Crop Circles.
Los Angeles, San Francisco, other affiliates joining at this hour.
My guest is Doug Ruby.
Doug flies big airplanes, 737s and bigger, for a major airline.
Because of the nature of his employment, we're really not naming the airline or laying on that aspect of why he's here.
Why he's here is Doug, I booked him at about, oh, I don't know, 9 o'clock Eastern time this morning because of somebody that sent me a fax and said, Art, it's guaranteed to blow your mind.
You've got to get Doug Ruby or try to get him.
He is author of a book called The Gift, The Crop Circles Deciphered.
So I picked up the phone and I called his publisher.
His publisher gave me his number, and I thought, what the heck, I'll give it a try.
And I called, and Doug was just waking up in Florida at about 9-something in the morning, and we talked for a while about crop circles.
And at that time, I had no idea how he had deciphered them, nor did I want to take the time because I wanted to discover it here on the air.
And boy, have I been doing that.
Now, synchronicity.
Not only do I get the facts, not only does he get a facts about me, but I then call him within hours, within hours, mind you.
And then tonight, about an hour before airtime, this gets deep, folks, I got a fax from, and I'm not sure what I've done with it.
Here it is.
Deborah in Santa Barbara.
Love to have you on, Deborah, if you can get through.
Which simply says, wow, Hiart and Ramona, check out the latest crop circle at Stonehenge.
You can see a photo at the Crop Circle Connector website.
The words that popped into my mind immediately upon viewing it were, tree of life, signed Deborah in Santa Barbara.
It was about an hour before airtime, okay?
So, of course, I pick up the phone and call my webmaster, Keith Rowland, and I say, quick, Keith, get over to the connector website and see if you can download this, please.
And so he went over there and, of course, got it.
And it is astounding.
It's in obviously a new crop at this time of year would be green.
And I've got the man who can tell you what this is.
And what we're going to do is briefly back up in a moment, and we're going to have Doug explain exactly how he deciphered crop circles.
And if you stick with it and listen for a moment, you'll get to the point that I got to, and you'll go, oh my God, he's right.
So he is the first person who has come along, in my opinion, and told us what crop circles really are.
And they are a gift.
We'll get to Doug in a moment.
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Give me your perspective on where you think this is heading worldwide.
Is this all leading to a one-world government, a new world order, in order to contain what could very well be a planetary-wide uprising?
Well, yes, the governments are preying on the poor people.
You know, in most countries, the government is usually controlled by wealthy people.
You're seeing very much a situation that's set up to create a violent overthrow of countries.
Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
And asked what process they used to train dolphins.
And they start out, of course, with the simplest of commands or communication, some sort of hand signal that will eventually cause the dolphin to understand what you want it to do.
And you correct me if I'm wrong here.
And then they proceed to more complex hand signals so that slowly the trainer and the dolphin, again with synchronicity, begin to in effect communicate with each other.
And I thought, uh-oh, he's going to say this has something to do with dolphins.
But no, indeed not.
That was only a primer so that we might understand your approach to deciphering crop circles.
Now, by the way, folks, his book is called The Gift, The Crop Circles Deciphered.
Now, in doing that, you said you took a crop circle from 1991 and you described it this way to me.
You said, put a dot in the middle of the paper, draw a circle, a wide circle around that dot, and then draw two half circles that do not connect.
And you went through this whole business of trying to figure out what this might mean.
You eventually ended up spinning these.
In other words, these crop circles are meant to spin.
So that is when you understand them.
And obviously, if you draw out what I just described and you spin it, you end up with, and this was one of the simplest crop circles, as you would begin with a dolphin, you end up with a circle within a circle where there was none before.
What you've got to understand here is when we're talking about these models, and what you've just described is we're just starting here with the basics.
When you get into the pictograms, the insectograms, these other complex models, now you're dealing with a little ship, but you can't really see what it's doing until it's spun.
And at a certain speed, this thing becomes three-dimensional.
It looks solid.
And at that point, and not only that, but you have spheres that are attached to the shaft or about the ship as it spins that create fields.
In other words, they now become a blur around it that you can now see fields around the ship that, of course, you can see right through them.
And by doing this, information is revealed to you that you would never see unless you spun it.
You would never even guess what it's doing.
And that becomes absolutely amazing.
When I hit the one insectogram with the ladder on it and I spun that sucker and I saw this magnificent field below the ship, I don't know, I just got goosebumps all around.
I said, I've done it.
I mean, you know, this is definitely, and you can feel it.
And you can see it here when you look at the photographs.
And I'll be happy to send you a video on it.
I've already got one.
And the folks can look at it and see for themselves.
The crop circle started in Ernst in probably 1989.
In 1990, it really busted loose with over 1,000, around 1,000 in 1990 and 91.
There is a little catch to that in that the English didn't really know how to count these things because every time there was an add-on, in other words, maybe another circle would appear the next day or in a week, and then maybe something else would appear, and they might add on to these things for four or five days.
And so they would count each add-on as a new crop circle.
So the count is really not a definite one.
It might have only been, let's say there were 400, okay.
They are mainly in Wilshire County, and in that area, let's say 80-mile circumference of Wilshire area, and in that geographic area is where Stonehenge is located, where Abbury is located, where Silbury Hill is located, and many other ancient megalithic sites.
And when you take into consideration that Stonehenge was created about the same time or previous to the Cheops Pyramid or the Great Pyramid, we're talking somewhere around 5,000 to 6,000 years ago is when they date the building of this, which comprised a time period of 100 years.
This thing wasn't done.
Stonehenge was not built overnight.
These are, as everyone knows, are gigantic blocks of rock weighing many, many tons.
Well, yes, the pyramids do have something to play with this, especially with the energy.
As we talked about before, geometry equals frequency, frequency equals energy.
Put those in any sequence you want.
I don't care.
I'm just telling you that what we call sacred geometry or platonic geometry in a three-day state, stop drawing them on paper, pick them up in three-dimensional form.
When these are spun and you place them within each other in a specific manner, they will create energy.
Well, without your going back to the beginning, the first crop circles, to begin to try to decipher them in the manner that you have now obviously, you know, I don't want to say stumbled into.
In fact, we'll get, I guess, into that.
You were driven into this, weren't you?
I mean, you remember, folks, close encounters of the third kind when the fellow's out there making the image of the mashed potato, with the mashed potatoes, just about everybody remembers that.
And he was compelled to do it.
You were, in the same way, compelled to try and decipher crop circles.
And it's been a wow thing for all along, especially when I almost did not, for another synchronicity, after this happened, I did not fly almost for January, February, and March at all.
And during that time, I did nothing but this, and this is all I've done since that began in early, late 93, and through 94, got the book out in very late 95.
And what happened here was I read a couple books on publishing, et cetera, and quickly understood that if I took it to a major publisher, they're going to change it on me.
And that was totally unacceptable.
And I said, okay, I've got to finance this, and we'll do as good a run we can.
We're going to make a good product here.
And I asked my carpenter, who I met through Don't Ask Me, but when I met Al, I'm just wandering around.
I'm in a warehouse area down in Melbourne, and never been there before, but was directed by a couple old fellows in a hardware store.
And what happened is at the time, what I'm leading up to is at the time that I needed a publisher, I decided I'm going to self-publish.
I told Al, because he knew a lot of people in the community.
I said, Al, look around for me.
See if you come up with a publisher around here, but I don't want anybody near the Cape.
That's the only requirement I had.
I don't want to be near the government or near the Cape at all.
Well, Drew happenstance, a friend, et cetera, who had just gotten a job with this publisher, and the two of them got together, and Al calls him and says, I got him.
And he did, and Paul was the man.
This whole group that worked with me, I didn't know any of these gentlemen before it started.
They all, I would just start looking and asking here and there just a very little bit, and boom, they were there.
And we're very close right now.
It's an unbelievable thing.
Paul is, my publisher is extremely tuned up and has done an absolutely gorgeous job on this.
And at any rate, that's the story on how that happened.
Well, you know, I've heard a lot of people attempt to talk about crop circles, and they talk about fractals, and they talk about this and that, what they think it might be.
But you're the first one who has come along and actually made me understand what they really are.
And what they are is a construction manual for a ship.
Again, going back, how did you first decide to spin these things?
I mean, you know, now that we hear about it, it's like, uh-huh, simple concept, I understand that, but before that moment of discovery, it's not simple.
The dolphin show indicated to me because no one had even come close to deciphering these things.
The mystery was around the world at that time.
And no one knew what was going on.
And I said, why hasn't anyone touched this thing?
And I made the analogy here on the planet and said, a dolphin show.
They're all looking at all these crop circles at once, all this profusion of formations.
And a dolphin show, the trainer and a dolphin, it takes years for them to get to the point from working from basics on up to where they can put on this complex show.
And I said, I must look, just as the dolphins and the trainers began, with the simple.
And from there, I found the very simplest formation that I could.
And this was just a circular formation, a ring formed in the wheat or in the grain, and with a center, let's call it a dot circle in the solid center circle in it, and then two rings on the outside that were split.
In other words, half a ring on one side, half of it on the other, and it was a gap between it.
Okay, and I looked at this thing, I picked it up, and I said, well, what do I do with it now?
And I wanted to flop it on the table and spin it, but it's not going to spin because it's a flat piece of cardboard.
So I just glued a button to the back of it, so I made a little top out of it, and flipped it on the table.
And when I did that, the rings connected because it's spinning.
And I said, are they trying to communicate with me?
What else can I do with this thing?
It's so simple.
And I said, that's what they're trying to tell me.
Spin it.
So from that simple little crop circle, I learned that I'm supposed to spin them.
And the formations were additive as we went along in the progression through them, that the information, one little piece of information added onto the other.
And right after that, I went into another very simple formation, only this circle had an appendage on it.
And now I couldn't spin it at the top because it went off balance.
I said, well, I need to attach a shaft to it.
So I just went out and bought some dowels and wooden dowels and glued one on the back of this thing and spun it by rolling the dowel in my hand.
This one I did had longer appendages on it and this became cumbersome in my hand, so I built this little spinning machine to spin it in.
And that did great.
It was perfect.
And from there, I went on into the major pictograms.
And what I had just learned there, they're supposed to be spun and put them on a shaft.
Very similar to the one that just came to us tonight from the Stone Enge, the one we've got up on the website right now, about similar size, about a football field.
Can you guess for me at about what altitude the airplane took, the photograph we've got up on the website right now, this current one, this new one, what altitude would yield this image?
And of course they're at an angle with this thing.
You couldn't do that at 400 feet from directly over it, I don't believe.
The camera's not going to capture it all.
Right.
To proceed on here, the pictograms are large, and from these I understood immediately that I'm supposed to rotate the disc 90 degrees, and then when they come together, if you pushed all of these on this post that they're on together, they form a little ship.
And then I would place this assembled ship, glue together, on the spinning machine and spin it, and then it would reveal what it was supposed to reveal.
And this was the high point of all the work, was when that thing spun, I just sit there and go, wow.
There's been a smattering of, a small smattering of formations that deal with biology, astronomy, our solar system, and somewhat a little bit with communication.
We're looking at after 91 and maybe a few in 92, the rest have all been basically addressing the ship.
And by that, the large pictograms disappeared.
And now we started to get just circular patterns, very complex, or in 96, these unbelievable gigantic formations, which deal with fractal geometry as what people are looking at them at.
Since it's the Julia Set and the triple armed spiral, these things are gigantic in size.
Yeah, oh, yes.
But they actually deal with the ship.
And everything in here is with the power plant.
They're showing us how the power plant operates.
What they're giving us is they're giving us an intergalactic spaceship that can also run around on the electromagnetic field of the Earth or the grid lines.
And they're giving us a power plant for free energy that does not need any fuel whatsoever.
I had Stan Tennon on the other night, and I just got a fax that said, all right, this sounds an awful lot like Stan Tennon's 3D hyperspins, etc., mega convergence going on a lot lately on your programs.
Thank you, Nick.
And that's exactly what he was talking about with respect to what some people call zero-point energy.
It's here, but we can't detect it because we live in it.
And it floats around like clouds, so to speak.
And the fellows that have been working on free energy machines have made one big mistake with them, and that is that they'll go in their lab in the morning, they'll crank this thing up, and some days it just works really nice.
And then other days it freezes up.
By freeze up, I mean it doesn't work.
They actually get ice on it.
And other days it heats up and almost burns up.
And they're going, what's going on?
And what's going on is they don't have a control mechanism on the device.
And that control mechanism, well, it's a...
I'm not in this.
But if they placed a rod of a crystal rod inside their central axle and move this in and out.
Okay, again, this new photograph we've got, when, thank God, about 10 minutes before broadcast, your wife, your soulmate, who is obviously supportive of you and the computer person in the family, managed to get the photograph.
And when you looked at it, you said, this is a crystal.
But, again, we go back to geometry, frequency, energy.
And if you vibrated through magnets, electromagnets on the bottom of a pan and had iron dust in that pan, when you hit the harmonic from the various frequencies you're vibrating these specific magnets at, it would form this formation in the pan.
And you can look in the pan and see that formation and match it with this one.
And what I'm saying to you is, is they're giving us not only the machine, but they're giving us the frequencies and the harmonics at which to use this power plant.
Because we're using spinning geometry and we're using frequencies and we're creating energy.
Now, if you go to the VFW up the street here in Nevada at about 4.30 or 5 in the morning, you will see buses.
The government doesn't even admit Area 51 exists, but I don't complain.
But they've got buses up there, and on the side of the bus, Doug, it says Area 51, and that's where they pick up the employees and take them up to this place that does not exist.
So instead of dumping all of this communication upon us at once, Doug, they are, as the trainer does with the dolphin, beginning with the simplistic forms of communication.
I mean, if you tried to give a dolphin a hand single signal to jump through a hoop, a dolphin that had never been trained, you would get absolute zero in response.
So in that same sense, then, they're beginning with us, with the simplistic, and expecting us to catch on.
And Doug, you're the first one I know that's caught on.
Relax.
We'll be back and we will get the phone lines opened.
I hope you all are going aha, as I have been.
Isn't this something?
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You are listening to Art Bell, somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from June 12th, 1997.
I've got the man who has figured out crop circles.
The book he wrote is called The Gift.
The Crop Circles Deciphered.
He is a commercial airline pilot named Doug Ruby.
He still flies, so we're not going to talk a lot about that aspect of his career because he would like to keep it, and you can't blame him.
He flies the big planes, 737s, and on up.
And that's all we'll say about that.
This man has Got it, folks.
I feel it.
I know it intuitively.
I know it.
It all makes sense.
Crop circles are meant to be spun, to be rotated.
Before you can understand them, you spin them.
When you do, what you've got are the plans for a ship, a spaceship, a saucer.
In the later crop circles, what you have are plans for the power plant.
A power plant that would utilize energy that some call zero point.
There are many, many names for it.
Energy that is all about us.
In a moment, I've got a surprise for you.
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First of all, I want to just thank you for bringing everyone out here to Cornea Copia this phenomenal knowledge.
I don't know of anyone else that I've ever listened to at radio, and that just fills my brain and stimulates me.
But, you know, I was listening to the show and I thought to myself, do you think, George, the common citizen such as you or I, really has any hope towards the future of any privacy or anything else?
I think we do.
I think eventually so many people will see the light, see what you see, see what I see, that eventually they're going to say enough is enough.
And I think that we do have a future and we're going to win in the long run.
It's going to be bumpy along the way.
It's not going to be easy, but we will get there.
That's my take.
And you know what?
As long as I can continue on the earwaves and tell people this, I shall.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from June 12, 1997.
Like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel, never ending or beginning or some half-forgotten reel, like the images you find in the windmills of your mind.
The more I think about this, the synchronicities in themselves resonate with a gut feeling that he, my guest, Doug Ruby, is exactly right.
He has figured out crop circles.
They are a message.
Once again, I'm going to bring Doug back on the air.
You know, someone tried to give me your book months and months and months ago, and I took a look at either an advertisement or something, and I said at that point, oh my God, I've got to look at this.
He's on to it.
And then because so much stuff comes in and we don't have staff, it disappeared.
So tonight I'm about to go to bed.
It's been a very hectic week, and I've been up very late listening to this guy named Bell who keeps having these people on, and they talk about all kinds of stuff.
And the phone rings.
And it's this guy named Bell saying, nope, you can't go to bed.
You've got to stay up and listen to this one.
So here I am by the computer, droopy-eyed, going through some of my mail over in Enterprise, and I'm listening, and I'm listening, and I'm saying, oh my God, it's the guy.
And of course, you've got it.
I think he's got it, folks.
And it really tickles me because, of course, the key is rotation.
But if I may make one small caveat, it's not just about ships.
And there's some very interesting connections in that regard of the crop circles with things that look suspiciously like planets and the moon, etc., etc.
And that's part of some of the quiet work we've been looking at, you know, that we may get to someday to talk about.
But there is a tremendous convergence here.
Earlier in the week, Art had a gentleman named Gene Mailopp on, former chief science writer at MIT, who was previewing an ABC telecast earlier this week on Wednesday of a so-called free energy technology and a technology which could radically reduce in the space of a couple of hours radioactivity from uranium-235 or 238, I guess, that would have taken billions of years to do.
And it was literally done on a time-lapse camera.
This physics, this technology that someone, and I really think you're exquisitely right about the gift, is trying to provide in the most crystal clear, prime-directive, gene, Are you listening mechanism is precisely right in terms of which side of the force we're talking about.
And it is so antithetical to the paranoia, the fear, the weirdness, the woo-woo factor, all the nonsense of UFOs is exemplified in the exact opposite, in these incredible, artistic, and overwhelmingly affirming formations that are so democratically available.
And someone, you know, the person that you want to kiss, the person who asked that question, if they landed on the White House lawn and gave it to us, it wouldn't mean anything.
If we fail, I really fear for what's going to happen.
This is not just an IQ test.
This is kind of how are we going to pass the bar exam and go on to matriculate.
There's some big-time stuff coming up, and somebody wants us to get with the program, and they want us to reach for it so that when we get it, it's ours.
And the thing that has bothered me so much about a lot of the UFO stuff, which is why I stay light years away from it, except tonight, is that so much of the so-called contact material, the channel material, whatever you want to call it, has an incredible, whining, manipulative tone to it.
The thing that is so strikingly different about what's been appearing in England and in other parts of the world is that it just sits there.
You can appreciate it aesthetically.
You can go lie down in it.
Or you can do numbers and geometry and analyses.
Or you can have this incredible conceptual leap which you had, which is really, I mean, I've got to take my hat off to you.
It was an astonishing leap to figure out the code key to spin these things to make them 3D, like Nick's message regarding Stantenon stuff.
If you don't know about Stan Tennon's material, I heartily recommend you to the Mayrou Foundation website.
The point is, there is a total different feeling tone, and coming from me, I'm sure that's going to raise some eyebrows from some folks out there, to the crop circle quote message.
It's the same kind of tone we get in the message of Sidonia, in the geometry, the identical geometry that we have found on Mars and on the moon in the artifacts.
And there's a consistency here, which, by the way, is going to continue because, as Art knows, we've been playing around with a certain piece of NASA video.
And not next week when I'm on to talk about some new breakthroughs on another part of this, but in the next couple, three weeks, sometime hopefully before Roswell, we will have some things to say about the STS-80 tape.
And lo and behold, there is a consistency there which echoes some of your decoding in the crops in England.
Now, messages to be received, and you know, correct me if I'm wrong, guys, have to be redundant.
The core of communication is you can't trust that by the time your message gets to your intended receiver, noise has not interfered.
So echoing what our friend tonight has been talking about, many years ago, starting back in 88 when my friend at ABC went to England as part of the ABC crew and actually took some photographs of the crop circles and sent them to me.
And I started asking the question myself, how can there be two different phenomena on two separate worlds, meaning the ruins and then this inexplicability in England, and then not possibly have some commonality, some common theme?
So I started quietly looking at the numbers.
And in those days, you know, I mean, this is like, you know, the Dark Ages, no one was doing surveys and surveying of crop circles.
For one thing, they were circles back then, remember?
See, when you say power plant, for a lot of people, they're thinking, you know, ships, airplanes, and obviously given your current profession and background, you'd be thinking in terms of that.
When I'm thinking power plant, I'm thinking, you know, prime movers, first causes.
I'm thinking of a physics that runs the universe by which the solar system operates.
And there is, by the way, a rather remarkable correspondence in terms of sizes, dimensions, ratios, and numbers of the solar system with the things we found at Sidonia, with the things you found in the crop circles, with the things that you found.
And all that is trying to tell us a, I believe, meta-message.
We have a major new breakthrough and a major set of predictions for some pretty astonishing things that we think are going to happen on the NASA front in about the next two to two and a half weeks.
And we're going to give the background.
We've got time to do it.
We're going to put it on the web.
That's what I have to finish doing.
We're going to lay out all the I's and dot the T's and dot the I's and cross the T's so people can follow the process.
But this is going to be, I believe, a breakthrough summer in many directions.
Yes.
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And a part of it we're going to be able to talk about next week.
I would like to begin to allow the audience to start to ask questions, but there are so many questions coming in from facts, people asking about other ways this might be done.
For example, please ask Doug if there's any reason why a quarter inch or 3-8-inch variable speed drill couldn't be used as a spinning device.
I can also tell you this, and that when Fred, who is my CAM, who did all the diagrams in the book, as we went through these, and of course they're all in color on the screen, assigned colors, we just went, and the Christmas of it, we just went, you know, this stuff was intended to be in the computer.
There is no doubt about that.
And from, it's just something we, of course, we can't do with a book, but you could definitely, you know, the software is out there to spin them on the screen.
We've already done that, but we can't put out anything where we can get off to a good enough speed.
You know, that facts that we got a little earlier, in other words, we're supposed to some sort of cosmic IQ test.
I have written a book myself called The Quickening, and it suggests that human events, all areas of them, politics, social, economic, environmental, everything is beginning to speed up at an exponential rate.
And I can feel in every part of my being that we are headed toward an event.
You know, I'm not a prophet, so I don't know what that event is, but I just know that we are speeding our way toward an event.
And part of that is if you want to participate in, I mean, if we want to participate and have the light being, excuse me, beings of the light here, we're going to have to place a lot more interest in these formations in the graph circles.
Because what they want to do, and they're very polite and considerate folks, but they're not going to walk into your house unless they're invited.
They're not going to come to this planet unless they're invited.
And we have to invite them.
And how you do that is you just say a little prayer and you invite them.
Before you do that, you'd better understand what the information they're conveying, and that's what they're doing.
And in giving us this time to decipher these formations, a bonding process will take place.
And I was listening to you, and I was wondering if anyone had drawn any similarities here between what you're discussing and Carl Sagan's book, Contact, except for the means of the transmission of the message.
You know, there are a lot of people in this country, researchers.
Linda Molten Howe deals with researchers, and they go out and they examine the crop that has been turned down, as you point out, gently in a way that could not possibly be done by a couple of dunces named Doug and Dave with boards and chains.
They detect molecular changes in the crops.
A very interesting molecular change that cannot quite be duplicated, but is very similar to microwave energy, exactly.
And I'm trying to think of the doctor's name, which ends in good, Dr. Something Good.
That might be it, or something like that.
And he's extensively tested them.
He's found a few fakes.
But by and large, most of them have shown these strange molecular changes.
So do you have any hint, any idea how they're formed?
But when we first went into these formations this morning, Isla said, she's already, the girls are in the circle.
I'm still walking up saying, aren't you going to say anything to the farmer?
And they say, oh, forget the farmer.
They were so excited.
And Isla said, stop before I entered the circle.
Take your shoes off.
And she handed me the dousing rods.
And as I walked in the circle, the rods, the minute I entered the circle, the rods closed on me.
She says, they will either close or they were open.
What you're entering is an energy barrier.
These formations are formed by an ultrasound, which might be up in the frequencies of microwave.
And this energy remains in the field for quite some time.
And how they are formed, they're formed very rapidly.
For instance, last year, in the same area where your formation that you've got on the internet that was just formed yesterday, this snowflake type geometrical formation, right about in the same area, last year they had the Julia set.
And this thing was 915 feet in length.
And I'm just reading off of this is from Colin Andrews back of it here.
And this gives you a real quick idea how quickly they're formed and what's happening here.
I'm going to read this.
A light aircraft pilot, Mr. Rodney Taylor, was flying a passenger over Stonehenge at 5.30 p.m.
They looked down from the aircraft as they flew around the area on their return to Thirkston near Andover, Hampshire.
Both men are certain that the very large pattern was not in the wheat field at this time.
Just 45 minutes later at 6.15 p.m., the passenger from his aircraft drove his car past the hinge on the major highway, A303, and saw the circles in the field with people already stopping to look at them.
He goes on to say, this agrees with numerous eyewitness reports around the world of people who claim to have witnessed the crop circles forming.
As a matter of fact, I believe that pilot signed a deposition.
Now, interestingly, again, on the one that we've just got on the internet, folks, there's a brand new Stone Edge crop circle.
If you're just tuning in, God, I hope you're not.
I hope you've been listening.
We've got it on our website right now, which is www.artbell.com.
Now, if you look at this crop circle, you'll notice that there are tire tracks not only within the crop circle, but beyond it, indicating that the farmer had been doing work on that field, perhaps not even knowing that he was going right across this crop circle.
And Robert Morningsky, I read his book and he worked with the Croft Circles, you know, in tying it in with the prophecies of the Hopis.
And he does an incredible thing.
And when I got his book and read it, I saw a ship.
I said, these things are showing a ship of some kind.
And then he took it, you know, one step further.
So I sure hope Robert Morningsky can make contact with you because I think you two guys have got a lot to talk about.
All right, my friend.
Thank you.
There are going to be a lot of people who are going to be literally Doug as a result of what they're hearing this morning combined with what we have done.
They're going to be jumping up and down.
I believe this is it.
How long have you been dealing with this aha experience?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Doug Ruby.
Hi.
Hi.
You're on the air.
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Okay.
Where are you?
My name is Stephen.
I'm in Victoria, British Columbia.
All right.
Where to start without putting my feet in my mouth at the same time.
I think one of the reasons why Doug has been able to figure this out is because of his perspective.
And if you sort of think about it, who better to know what's going on in the world and realize that a change has to take place than an airline pilot in the sense that he's like a guardian angel for the people he's carrying around and for the planet.
You know, you can actually see the pollution, the problems, and everything else that are actually going on in the world because you're so involved in it.
And whether or not you actually believe in reincarnation or anything else like that, which I do, you're here at this place doing this, at this place in time, because whether we're ready for it or not, it has to happen.
And if it does get figured out, which I know it is going to, it'll benefit everybody.
And it's sort of along the lines of allowing the meek to inherit the earth because anybody can use it, anybody can build it, and it's not going to cost them their soul.
I've heard stories from some people who were passengers during that time that occasionally pilots would make turns so passengers could get a look at the comet.
Well, I don't know if I appreciate this, but we would turn the lights out in the cabin on when we had the right visibility, ask the folks first if they'd like to see the comet from that altitude.
Turn the lights out in the cabin.
We make a couple of 360s into both sides of the aircraft.
As a matter of fact, I'll tell you a funny little story about that when we come back.
First time, call our line, you're on the air with the author of The Gift, The Crop Circles Deciphered, Doug Ruby.
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Good evening, Art.
Good evening, Doug.
This is Debbie.
I'm calling from Kewalup, Washington.
And it's going to be difficult to be articulate when my jaw is on the floor, but...
This is a great subject.
All of your subjects are great art.
My question for Doug is, we already know what the government has done with any contact they've had with this type of technology from this type of source.
It's hidden away.
It's denied everything else.
And I'm just wondering what makes Doug think that this technology will be built and we will actually do something with it when it probably will cost a lot of money, and that means the more elite people of our society will have access to it first, and we don't know what...
Well, we might actually, we can enlarge on that question, and the question might be, how do you know that there are not others who have done what Doug has done,
that this technology already exists Doug you think that's possible absolutely they've got it they've got it now hold that thought hold that thought we'll be right back you're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring Coast to Coast a.m. from June 12 1997 I
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I see trees of green, red and blue too.
I see them bloom for me and you.
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
I see skies of blue and clouds of white.
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night.
And I think to myself, somewhere in time with Art Bell continues courtesy of Premier Network.
I've been, I've been wanting to know about these crop circles.
I mean, inside, I knew, I knew that there was a puzzle to be deciphered here.
I knew these really meant something.
And I have never had anybody on any program.
And I've done a lot of programs on this subject.
Many, many, many.
And I've never had anybody who has been within light years of the understanding that Doug has obviously got.
He's got it.
This is the answer.
There is no way that anybody can listen to those two hours, particularly, without going, ah, I get it.
Finally, I understand.
And this is going to lead to some pretty tremendous things for our society, I do believe.
I think this holds right on the money.
You may be reminded of the old Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
When the fellow was putting the mashed potatoes together, driven, compelled to do what he was doing.
This pilot that we spoke with, with um dog a commercial pilot was driven in exactly the same way only thing is, he's come away with the answers.
I mean, I've been doing talk radio a lot of years, and I know when a bomb has gone off, and a bomb has gone off, the information imparted tonight is going to end up resulting in research that is going to change many, if not most, aspects of our lives.
But under any circumstance, I'm telling you, this is the most definitive, clear, obvious work on crop circles I've ever heard in my whole life.
It comes from an airline pilot of all places.
You know, people ask me about my program, and I think tonight, and maybe all week, has been a particularly poignant example of why it works the way it works.
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First of all, I want to just thank you for bringing everyone out here to Corneau Copia just phenomenal knowledge.
I don't know of anyone else that I've ever listened to at radio that just fills my brain and stimulates me.
You know, I was listening to the show and I thought to myself, do you think, George, the common citizen such as you or I, really has any hope towards the future of any privacy or anything else?
I think we do.
I think eventually so many people will see the light, see what you see, see what I see, that eventually they're going to say enough is enough.
And I think that we do have a future and we're going to win in the long run.
It's going to be bumpy along the way.
It's not going to be easy, but we will get there.
That's my take.
And you know what?
As long as I can continue on the earwaves and tell people this, I shall.
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Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Art Bell Back now to Doug Ruby, the man who has deciphered crop circles.
In 1958, my husband was in the Air Force, and I was newly married.
I was 18.
And we were looking for a place to live, and there was an old gentleman out of around, behind Lancaster, I believe, around several miles out of E, Avenue E, who took us into his barn, you might say a single-story barn, and showed us what he said was a flying saucer.
And it looked something like, it was about 16 to 18 inches high, circular, about 12 or 14 inches across, and it resembled what looks like the Capitol Records building, Art if you've seen the Capitol Records building in Ollie.
I didn't question him any further, but he said it flew.
Does this resemble anything that you were trying to explain to us, Doug, about what this combination of layers of discs would look like if you'd seen a picture of the Capitol Records building?
I can tell you that there have been folks around, since I've been in this in the last three or four years, that I've come in contact with that have built machines, have built saucers, model saucers, have flown them, and they work on magnetics.
What we're into with this is a totally different energy, although those magnetics do work with this energy, and I should probably retract that statement.
For instance, if you went with just a simple little Levatron top that you can buy out of magazines, the instructions with that thing say you're going to have to take off some weights or put them on from day to day or from the morning to the afternoon.
This thing is working in conjunction with this energy, and this energy floats like clouds around every day with us.
In other words, there's more of it at some times and less of it at other times.
And that's why these guys in their laboratories, when they turn on their free energy machine, it either freezes up or heats up because they can't modulate it for the amount of energy that's present at that time.
So you're saying that's why the Levitron, and you're absolutely right, people who have played with it out there know one day you've got to have one little weight on there, the next day you've got to make a little change to make it work.
Doug has likened crop circles to the hand and voice gestures used by an animal trainer to communicate with a dolphin.
The trainer begins with simplistic commands and gestures.
And as the animal learns, the gestures become more complex and begin to build off one another.
But just as a parent wouldn't teach a child to run before they had learned to walk, one would think a trainer wouldn't teach an animal complex tasks before the animal had learned and demonstrated they had learned the basics.
It would be futile from the perspective of the trainer and totally confuse the dolphin.
If, quote, crop circles are elaborate hand gestures, end quotes, to the human race, why would they have grown in complexity over the last seven years if no one yet understood them?
One would think they would only grow in complexity if there was some evidence of learning, some demonstrative form of understanding, which begs the question, who's learning and how is this learning being demonstrated?
Doug, after tonight, you are going to be approached by a number of television programs who are going to want to bring cameras and get a visual demonstration of what you have so exquisitely laid out tonight.
And with the newer crop circles out, much of the harmonics, the speeds, we're getting into something here with the planets and how what they did with this machine is they looked at the planets, the energy between the planets.
This is involved in the machine, rings, harmonics of the spheres.
And I've been doing this a lot of years, and it's hard to get blown away, but Doug has done it.
Good morning.
This is the man who has deciphered the crop circles, finally.
And we'll get back to him in a moment.
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streaming features plus recaps contacts and upcoming show info Coast Insiders with Android System 4.0 and above or iPhone check out our new app at the Google Play or iTunes stores or link from the Coast website get a new view of the world with Coast to Coast AM First of all I want to just thank you for bringing everyone out here to Corneaucopia just phenomenal knowledge I don't know of anyone else that I've ever listened to at radio
that just fills my brain and stimulates me.
But, you know, I was listening to the show, and I thought to myself, do you think, George, the common citizen such as you or I, really has any hope towards the future of any privacy or anything else?
I think we do.
I think eventually so many people will see the light, see what you see, see what I see, that eventually they're going to say enough is enough.
And I think that we do have a future, and we're going to win in the long run.
It's going to be bumpy along the way.
It's not going to be easy, but we will get there.
That's my take, and you know what?
As long as I can continue on the airwaves and tell people this, I shall.
Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
got a vax here from a Ph.D. in San Diego and he goes into some very heavy-duty physics here and I would prefer to have him on the air so I'm going to take another break in a moment and try to get him on the air and try to get him to explain this to us if possible in person rather than trying to read these facts which will come out as Greek to me.
Back to our guest now.
Doug, are you there?
Yes.
Okay.
Back to the phones.
They're loaded.
First time caller line.
You're on the air with Doug Ruby in Florida where it's getting late or early.
And due to a good friend of mine named McIntosh here in Portland, Oregon, he informed me and keeps me informed pretty much of every one you've had on your program.
And Mr. Ruby has hit upon something that has been a longtime favorite of mine, which I would like to fax him a copy of a drawing.
You know, at the timing of the crop circles, when they first started appearing and the capabilities of the money has been spent on high-energy discharge devices, majors for, of course, they were originally developed for, supposed to be for space-based defense.
But anyway, what was seen, when one of these crop circles was being formed at night, Art probably remembers somebody called in and talked about it.
That is, that there was a corona, a bullish corona discharge in the ionosphere above the crop circle, which would indicate, as you brought out, microwave radiation, a very high power, of course, it would take to do this sort of thing.
But this coincides more or less with the money that's been expended to develop this sort of thing.
And, you know, it's question mark there.
It also was brought out by one of Art Scholars who was in the Air Force and involved.
The Air Force was experimenting with atmospheric holographic displays and this sort of thing.
And, you know, here's the Office of National Reconnaissance, which is a black outfit agency or subdivision of the National Security Agency, another black outfit, involvement in the HAARP project.
And of course, there is something similar to the HAARP project in Norway that's capable of using very high energy, in fact, almost to EMP levels.
But in any case, do you see a possibility of a very high-level hoax in some of this?
Well, in fact, as a matter of fact, let's convert that first to the simpler form of the question.
There was Doug and Dave.
And so I would ask you, Doug, how do we know that we're not involved here either in a low level, as in Doug and Dave, or high level, as in military hoax?
I think the proof is right there in front of your face.
Remember something.
Every TV documentary done in this country has alluded to it's all hoaxers.
Any information that's coming out of these crop out of England or around the world about crop circles is given no attention or is not put on in the mainstream of media in this country at all.
There is very little information about this going on at this time or in the previous years.
So what I'm saying to you is if you want to look at the government or what you're looking at here as a scenario, I don't believe it's just the opposite.
They don't want us to become attracted to these formations again.
They do not want this information out.
And another viewpoint of that is these formations are so intricate, the information being conveyed, for instance, Dr. Gerald Hawkins deciphered a number of the early on simpler formations and arrived at a number of musical notes from this.
I just happen to be in the crop circle, and he's working with this.
What I'm saying to you is these notes are in the diatonic scale, and his observation on it was he has no idea how any intelligence could do this backwards.
It boggles his mind, what they back-engineered here to convey to us.
And then he came up with a fifth theorem on it.
So what I'm trying to say to you, I think, as a frosting on the cake with this, is that this intelligence goes way beyond anything here on this planet.
And again, I'm going to ask you a question because with the national exposure you're getting right now, Doug, and this is beginning to, you know, I'm sure it's sinking in out there hard in a lot of places.
You're going to have TV coming to you, national TV and the rest of it.
You have an important career.
You've been at it for 30 years or so.
Do you think you can deal with that and keep your career intact?
I'm well respected there, and as long as I give them the same respect, I don't think we're going to have any problem whatsoever.
If we want to look at worst case scenario, and they said, Doug, we think we ought to depart.
Everybody knows about this now, and we just don't really want our passengers to be upset if there should be that deep third-dimensional mindset back there.
A lady early on in the program asked that question.
How do you think this information came to you?
We went through that.
And another answer to that is, another facet of it is I'll go all the way with it until I drop.
The only way they're going to stop me is to terminate my need.
The importance of this information and the contact that is going on here from beings of the light, which we're going to need so desperately in our near future, weighs my entire life.
Forget the job.
And I will do what I have to do if it comes to that point.
I'll sacrifice whatever I've got to sacrifice, but this is my job.
Right before one of the breaks, a while back, and now just a minute ago, you had called these folks who are imparting these crop circles to us as beings of light or light beings and mentioned something about having to say a little prayer because they're very polite and have to be asked to be here and then a bit later you said they're actually here and know you're on the show could you like clarify these things for us well if they weren't polite we'd be french fries okay I have I have absolutely I
It's a pleasure, uh, to be able to speak to you, sir.
What I wanted to say to you is that, uh, you have been chosen, not just as a pilot, but flying above the earth and, knowing the constellations and Orion and 19.5 and so much that you know prior to when you started writing the book and prior to when you started piecing things together, if you think back, most likely you were touched either feeling the surge of energy or light.
There was a time because you were chosen, as Mr. Hoagland and many others were.
The only thing I can tell you, the only experience that I ever had in my life of a highly metaphysical nature, I was 10 years old.
I was in Japan.
My parents and the rest of the family had gone to, it's Easter Sunday, and my rest of my family had gone to church.
At an earlier service, for some reason I had slept in and I went alone.
And at some time during that service, a force entered my body from my back, stayed in my body for some place, some period of around 5 to 30 seconds.
I can't tell you a time there.
And this was the most powerful energy I've ever experienced in my life, and it was nothing but solid love.
And when it started coming out my front and going towards the front of the church, all I remember saying is to myself, and as I looked around to see if other people were reacting the same way and nobody was, I just said, don't leave, please don't leave.
And then it just went towards, it left my body and went towards the front of the church.