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Art Bell dissects the U.S. Senate’s 74-26 vote ratifying a chemical weapons treaty, questioning its safety impact while highlighting biological threats like an FBI-reported oozing package targeting a Jewish org. Skepticism flares over two inert missile-carrying trucks vanishing in Texas—Bell probes satellite tracking gaps and Russia’s weapon theft claims—before pivoting to UFOs, dismissing religious belief but entertaining sightings near Area 51. Callers speculate on nuclear deterrence, Flight 800 conspiracies, and government secrecy, with Bell musing on mutual assured destruction’s paradoxical power, all while teasing Robert Ghost Wolf’s upcoming appearance. [Automatically generated summary]
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Wtam's Worry Over Inert Weapons 00:09:02
unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 24th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American Southwest.
		I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be across all these many time zones from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands with their dancing girls and grass skirts all the way across this great nation to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands where one might see similar things down into South America and North to Santa country at the pole worldwide on the internet.
		In other words, all over the place.
		Good morning, everybody.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		Tomorrow night, Robert Ghostwolf will be here.
unidentified		If you've never heard him, you're in for a treat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tonight, anything goes.
		It'll be open line.
		So anything you guys want to talk about suits me.
		We will peruse Zimmoz.
		The Senate has passed the chemical ban treaty.
		The vote was 74 to 26.
		It looks like a key factor was Trent Lott, who decided at the last minute to bring the conservatives along, probably so that people couldn't say, see, the conservatives are, well, actually, they love chemical weapons.
		Now, I guess all I would ask you is, how many of you out there feel safer tonight because we have ratified the chemical weapons treaty?
		You know, I don't think I do.
		It's countries that don't ratify it that worry about me.
		They're the ones who are making the chemical weapons.
		Oh, well.
		So we have it.
		It's a nice piece of paper.
		The FBI said that an oozing package that sparked a major security alert at the Washington offices of a major Jewish organization was not life-threatening.
		It did make some people sick, but it was not life-threatening.
		And one of these days, somebody's going to get mailed something and they're going to open it.
		And it's going to be very life-threatening.
		You know, I'm worried a lot less about poison gas and a lot more about biological problems.
		Strange world.
		It said that some of the rebels in Peru were executed, shot through the forehead on the spot.
		And apparently the message was, don't bother to bring anybody back alive.
unidentified		And they didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anybody out there upset about that?
		Now the military truck story.
		Very strange indeed.
		Two trucks carrying missiles, machine guns, and mortars have disappeared in Texas.
		They had been apparently tracked on by satellite, and they just disappeared.
		Now, they've been looking for them apparently for a number of days.
		There are conflicting reports at this hour.
		CNN said that both trucks had been found, but at this hour I'm hearing one truck remains missing, but that they are not as worried about that one because it has what are called inert weapons on it.
		And I wanted to know what an inert weapon is.
		In other words, why would you not worry because they're inert weapons?
		The keyword is weapon, right?
		What do they mean by inert?
		Is it a weapon that, well, I just don't understand that phrase, and maybe somebody out there can help me out.
		Inert weapon.
		Are you hurt if you are hit by an inert weapon?
		If you are, then we should worry.
		If an inert weapon is nothing to worry about, then well, anyway, I hope you follow me.
		I just, I don't get the whole thing.
		What is an inert weapon?
		Is that a nuke that you could not cause to go off because you couldn't get the code?
		And if it's a weapon that doesn't hurt anybody, then why do we call it a weapon?
		Anyway, whole thing is confusing.
		Hi, Art.
		Great show last night.
		Thanks for the tremendous variety.
		This week, a number of callers commented on the EBS oddities.
		Actually, it's EAS now, I think.
		This occurred to one of your biggest affiliates, WTAM.
		The author of the following note confirmed this by talking to the WTAM station engineer.
		Remember, we were talking about the strange testing going on.
		Check this out.
		Folks, I am very upset by what I learned this morning.
		We've been involved in a lot of speculation over the last few days, but from what I can tell, this is not speculation.
		In fact, I hope someone can show me to be wrong, but if not, we simply can't allow it to go unchallenged.
		Something very strange occurred in Cleveland yesterday.
		Every single radio station, AM and FM, was for a few moments taken off the air and overridden by the signal from WTAM, 1100 a.m.
		The disc jockey on WTAM was this morning expressing his concern over this and had an engineer on the show to explain how it occurred.
		The federal government, through an FCC mandate and under the auspices of FEMA, has required all radio and TV stations to replace the EBS system that we were all familiar with, duck and cover, remember, with emergency alert system.
		Under the new system, there are 30 trigger stations around the country.
		Now, WTAM is obviously a monster, and they are one of the trigger stations.
		Anyway, when these stations receive a signal from a FEMA-controlled facility in Virginia, they automatically and immediately reach out and take control of the signal coming from all other local stations in their respective areas.
		The trigger stations receive a feed from this FEMA location, pass it on.
		Neither the trigger stations nor the surrounding stations under distribution have any control over the link hub.
		I repeat, all these radio stations do not control their own broadcasts, nor can it be overridden.
		Yesterday, it was an accident.
		As a result, a few stations in Cleveland were off the air due to a wrong button pressed by some federal guy in Virginia.
		So there you've got it.
		A kind of an interesting thing that they're doing right now, I would say, wouldn't you?
		They have the ability to push one button and control all broadcasting, including what I'm saying to you right now.
		They could just flat blanket out.
		Now I understand why they want the ability, but boy, they better be careful who's got control of that button, huh?
		Russia is continuing its Cold War-era program to build deep underground bunkers, subways, and command posts to help Moscow's leaders flee the capital and survive a nuclear attack.
		This is according to the Washington Times.
		Among the ambitious projects, a secret subway, get this, being directly built to the residence of Russian Premier Boris Yeltsin outside Moscow, and it would whisk him away from American ICBM should they decide to fly.
Two Teenage Killers 00:02:57
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only part I don't get here is why are they working like crazy, spending rubles they don't have to build things for something that isn't going to happen?
		A defector from North Korea has clearly said North Korea has nuclear weapons and could turn Japan into a sea of fire as well as the South, South Korea, and that they just might do it and that they are moving toward nuclear, at least war, and I suspect nuclear.
		It's like this chemical weapons thing.
		If you get into war with somebody, you're going to use whatever you've got to kill the other guy.
		And so I don't know what all this paperwork is.
		Ban this, ban that.
		We as the larger industrial nations ban it, get rid of it.
		And the small guys will use it because chemical weapons, biological weapons, are the poor man's atom bomb.
		So we keep the atom bomb and we let them have the cheap stuff.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes I just don't know.
		Two teenagers looking for a victim, looking for a victim, anybody, lured two pizza delivery men to an abandoned house and killed them on Monday.
		The 17 and 18 year old boys are accused of phoning and they had to phone four pizza places before they finally found one that would deliver to this remote rural area.
		When the delivery guy drove up Saturday night and lowered the car window to hand out the pizza, the teens ambushed him.
		After the men were shot in their car, they were dragged out and shot in the head.
		The 18-year-old was charged with two counts of murder, so he killed two of them, and weapons violations.
		The 17-year-old held in juvenile right now.
		Both pled not guilty.
		So in other words, they continued to call pizza places until they could find victims because all they wanted to do was kill somebody.
		They didn't even want to rob the guy.
		They just wanted to kill somebody's plural.
		They got two of them.
		Strange out there.
		Art Paul Harvey on his show today said that a guy in Alabama has captured some kind of ugly animal that made its way from South America.
Extraterrestrial Highway Mystery 00:15:24
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This was on Paul Harvey.
		He found it in his pond, he said.
		Said it is the ugliest animal he has ever seen.
		Paul Harvey said it looks like a cross between a warthog and something else.
		Can't remember the name of it.
		Sounded like chupacabra.
unidentified		Different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you might want to look into it.
		I wonder who it is.
		So whoever you are in Alabama, what is it you have captured?
		I would like to know.
		Dear Art, I've lived in Colorado for 26 years, and I have never seen the kind of weather that we've had in the past few days.
		Monday and Tuesday, beautiful.
		High 60s.
		Wednesday, an average spring day in Colorado.
		Mild temperatures.
		But Thursday morning, unusually warm and cloudy.
		Then, when I woke up this morning, there were 13 inches of snow on the ground.
		That's 13 inches in eight hours.
		Schools, businesses all closed down.
		I've seen it snow in July, but never, never have I seen it sunny, rainy, and then snowing 13 inches in less than 48 hours.
		Here's another one.
		From Orangebird, South Carolina, not far away from a small town called North.
		Tuesday night, we were under severe thunderstorm tornado warnings.
		Wednesday morning, North residents woke to destruction.
		Nine houses and a few buildings completely destroyed.
		Obviously, everybody thought it was a tornado, but quite surprised to find out it wasn't.
		It was just a wind gust to 105 miles per hour.
		Here's another one.
		Lately, you've been bringing up high wind gusts that have been occurring.
		Perhaps you might want to mention the 98-mile per hour wind gust in the Mojave Desert that occurred today.
		Just a thought.
		It's a good point.
		The winds are increasing everywhere.
		We are getting microbursts on the ground.
		And it's part of our changing weather, clearly.
		In a moment, I've got a couple of great Darwin Award winners for you.
		Or maybe I'll hold them till midnight.
		Yes, I will hold my Darwin Award winners for the top of the hour.
unidentified		These are absolutely classic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'll wager that you've not heard them before.
		Darwin Award winners are people nominated on a yearly basis for contributing to the gene pool in such a way as to cleanse it by eliminating themselves in very creative and stupid ways.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Ed in Al Panita, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hi.
unidentified		How are you doing?
		A couple of questions.
		First, have you ever interviewed DeForest Kelly, the actor who used to play on Star Trek?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Star Trek.
unidentified		No, I haven't.
		Well, I heard him once, and he was talking about his UFO experiences.
		And that's no joke.
		He actually had UFO experiences.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So have a lot of Americans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is not unusual.
unidentified		Yeah, well, he, you know, of course, when you say that, people think, oh, well, he's just acting for Star Trek, but he, if I remember right, his first experience was the great UFO air raid in Los Angeles in 1942, if you heard about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like where you get down under your desk and put your head down and cover the back of your neck?
unidentified		Yes.
		Yeah.
		It was just after Pearl Harbor in February 1942.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seems to me that would have been a war alert, not for UFOs.
unidentified		Well, supposedly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, after the war started, they thought submarines were off the California coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Airplanes would attack that kind of thing.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
		That sort of thing.
		Supposedly, some people say that there were lights coming over the coast.
		And, of course, everybody was jittery because, as you said, there was a submarine that shot up Goleta, which is near Santa Barbara and didn't do much damage, but everybody got excited.
		And so he was saying that he saw these lights.
		He was stationed in San Pedro at Fort MacArthur.
		And, you know, he said that they did look like UFOs and whatever it was.
		The anti-aircraft guns went off and so forth.
		And then he also mentioned that in Louisiana in the 1950s, he was driving, I think he was going to a small theater production or something, and he saw a regular large UFO saucer-shaped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, these reports are not unusual.
		I mean, DeForest Kelly or anybody else.
		Lots and lots and lots of Americans have seen UFOs.
		Lights, things that move strangely and all the rest of it.
		There's almost no point in relating these stories unless, you know, something's going on right now.
		Because so many have seen it.
		It's not even unusual.
		First time caller align, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Scott from Glenn Carbon, Illinois, and I want to talk about the inert weapons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, inert weapons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are those?
unidentified		Okay, basically, an inert, excuse me, an inert weapon is a weapon that does not work.
		It is strictly used for training purposes only.
		Oh, for training.
		Basically, if a practice round, it could weigh the same weight as the real vibe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it would not hurt you.
unidentified		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, then nobody should worry that much about that truck disappearing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		You kind of gave a disservice to the Peruvian soldiers there.
		I don't think they so much shot them between the eyes to assassinate him.
		I think that's the no-reflex zone.
		You've got to shoot somebody who you think's dangerous between the eyes so they can't squeeze the trigger or do whatever they might do.
		So I might have misunderstood you, but I just thought you might have gave the solar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they assassinated them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They had orders to don't bother to bring anybody back alive.
unidentified		Okay, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's the big deal?
unidentified		No big deal.
		You'll get no argument from me, sir.
		Not there.
		I just was thinking, no, maybe they were just, you didn't understand the training they probably went through, excuse me, to let you know just how good a shot they were, because you have to get them right between the eyes.
		Our military gives you the old double tap between the eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the word I got was they calmly went about after hitting them and shot each one in the forehead, you know?
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Well, I read you're going up here in KEX country or KXL, whatever, and yeah, nothing about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not KXL country.
unidentified		Yep, Lim 90.
unidentified		KEX country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's KEX country.
unidentified		That's right.
		Sorry about that.
		You can bleep that one if you want.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't have to bleep it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just telling you, it's KEX country, and surveys show it.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		Thanks very much, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		See you later.
		Surveys squarely show it.
		Yes, sir, sir.
		That's KEX Country.
		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell, and from the high desert, you're not going to know what to expect next because I don't.
unidentified		This is Vremer Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		We take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Inner weapons.
		See, let me tell you what I was talking about here.
		Michael Curta, director of the Colorado Mouth On, writes, our facts is, at the top of the hour, ABC News in Denver reported one truck had been found, but the second, which was carrying four unarmed Air Force missiles, still is missing.
		Worth, by the way, about $300,000 each.
		And I was wondering, what happens if an inert missile passes through an aircraft?
		Just curious.
		And would having the missiles themselves, presumably with the guidance systems and all the rest of it, give one the ability to concoct an explosive, small as it might be, on the warhead and fire them?
		A couple other things I wonder about.
		These trucks have been missing for four days.
		When do you suppose the government decided to tell us?
		Four days later.
		Now, there is no suggestion that there might have been nukes or nuclear weapons of any sort, but I ask you, would they tell us if there were?
		If a truck or a train or a nuke was absconded with, would they tell us that?
		Somehow, I'm not real comfortable they would.
unidentified		about you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Turn your radio off.
		I just did.
unidentified		Good.
unidentified		This is Iran in South Dakota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, KWSN.
		Cloning.
		I noticed there's been some evidence of it around in the White House.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Like Clinton saying, I can't recall, or I don't remember.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's Alzheimer's.
unidentified		Well, it could also be a clone, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would you suspect a clone?
unidentified		Because he isn't completely trained on everything that the other one knows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		Not totally informed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would suspect plausibly deniable Alzheimer's before I would cloning.
unidentified		And who would I think should be cloned?
unidentified		Oh, Michael Jordan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Michael Jordan.
unidentified		Bill Cosby.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bill Cosby.
unidentified		George Burns.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		George Burns.
unidentified		Maria Moldauer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maria Moldauer.
unidentified		I saw her once here in Sioux Falls.
unidentified		She was great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She is great.
unidentified		And that's about all I got to say.
		Great show as always.
		Keeps me alert while I'm working.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		And how about Shannon Dougherty?
		Minus Vocal Cords.
		On my international line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
		Good morning, Art Roman, from Vancouver, Canada.
		First of all, in the past, when I called you, I noticed that after about one minute I was cut off.
		Can you investigate that?
		Why it happens?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll investigate, and when I find who's responsible for it, I will punish them severely.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Let's see how it happens this time.
		You promote the device which treats a water line using magnets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		GMX.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Have you heard about the therapy called magnetotherapy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
		Magnets used on the body.
		Yes, I've heard of that.
unidentified		Yes.
		And also for magnetizing for magnetizing water.
		You know about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what GMX does.
unidentified		Yes, but you drink that water.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know there's a process to make colloidal water, colloidal water.
unidentified		Yes.
		Huh?
		No, but I'm talking about just putting water between two poles of a strong magnet for several hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I have heard of that, actually.
		GMX, a lot of times they will send along a little thing that you put your coffee cup on.
		And you just set your coffee cup on it, and it cleans up, does something to the water.
unidentified		Yes, but are you aware that drinking such magnetized water promotes your good health?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess that I have heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you very much.
unidentified		God, who cut him off?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two demerits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes, Art.
		This is Kelly from West Sacramento.
		How you doing?
		Doing really good.
		Hey, my grandmother lives in Las Vegas, and I understand that there is a thing called, or a highway called the ET Highway or the Alien Highway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
unidentified		Whereabouts is that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That goes north of Las Vegas, up by the test site.
unidentified		By the test site?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The extraterrestrial highway, yes.
unidentified		Okay, because I've asked around and no one has ever heard of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, listen, our governor was at the dedication of it.
		No, there's no question about it.
		We have it here.
		Do you know why they call it that?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would be your best guess?
unidentified		Oh, geez.
unidentified		Sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it goes right by Area 51.
unidentified		Oh, it does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it generally snatches away and provides missing time for, and God knows what else, female truck drivers.
unidentified		Female truck drivers, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, particularly.
unidentified		Uh-oh, I guess I better watch out then, huh?
unidentified		I drive here for UPS.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we've got a lot of UPS listeners.
unidentified		Oh, we sure do.
unidentified		I think my boyfriend caught me on it at your station, and it's one of the things that keeps me alert and awake while I'm driving down the highway.
Red Ball Mystery 00:05:54
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It keeps me alert and awake during the night, too.
unidentified		Okay, so now, is it on this highway thing?
unidentified		Is it it's just called the ET Highway?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's not like I-205 or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was an official designation for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is now the extraterrestrial highway, and it goes up by the test site.
unidentified		Okay, up by the test site.
		Yes.
		Okay, so it would be easy to find.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why would you want to find it?
unidentified		Because I want to drive down it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because of what?
unidentified		I might see something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, suppose more than just seeing something happen to you.
unidentified		Nothing's going to happen to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know that?
unidentified		Well, I hope it doesn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why do you think they would name the highway what they did if nothing happened on it?
unidentified		Probably because of all the things that go on in Area 51 that you just happen to see a few things now and again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you just made my point.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		I appreciate it.
		Good luck.
		Make sure you have a partner with you.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Arch.
		Hello.
		Oh, my God, this is phenomenal.
		I haven't called you in a long time.
		And the first time I try to get through, I'm in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It didn't happen to us like that.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		This came through work today.
		The place I worked over in Burbank.
		By the way, I'm calling from Pasadena.
		Okay.
		Gina.
		And the place I work in Burbank is we're a fulfillment company for studios and stuff.
		Yes.
		And this, where it came from, I have no idea.
		But it says, urgent memo.
		Please forward to the addressee immediately.
		To Doe.
		From the Supreme Commander, next level.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is this about the headwinds?
unidentified		Yeah, the show winds usually okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's old stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's been going around on the internet forever.
unidentified		Oh, really?
		Well, I don't have the internet.
		I don't have a computer.
		Yep.
		And I'm just, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sick there.
unidentified		You know, it's phenomenal.
		A couple of people at work didn't get it.
		And I had to explain to them what.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, not everybody pays attention.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've seen that.
unidentified		It's on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all over the place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Arbel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is wonderful.
		I don't believe I'm talking to you.
		What I wanted to bring up, though, was one night I was sitting with a friend at a trailer court, and we was waiting on them to come home one night.
		And believe it or not, we was watching the sky.
		Oh, I was watching the sky.
		My friend was down eating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why were you watching the sky?
unidentified		Oh, I don't know.
		Just the thing I do all the time, pretty much.
		I always keep my eye on the skies.
		That's what my mom used to tell me all the time when I was little.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your mom told you to watch the skies?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		So anyway, we sitting there, and I wish he would have seen it, but he didn't.
		And the next thing I know, from the horizon, I could see above the trailer court a red flash, like a red ball of light.
		And it didn't look like fire or flame or anything like that, just like a red glow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These things are drawn right to trailer courts, just like tornadoes.
unidentified		But it was like 75% of tornadoes laying in trailer courts.
unidentified		Isn't that terrible?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a reason for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just don't know what it is.
unidentified		Right.
		But anyway, so the ball of the ball of light or whatever, it went to like a 45-degree angle.
		Well, I'd say about 30-degree angle.
		And it just took off and it was just going so fast.
		And it went to a point where I couldn't see it no more.
		I only seen it for like probably three seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what do you think you saw?
unidentified		I believe it was UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A UFO?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An object from another planet?
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With aliens?
unidentified		Possibly, yeah.
		I don't see why not.
		But another thing about it, though, was that wasn't the only one.
		It happened like about probably two seconds later.
		Another one.
		The same from the same area, everything.
		Went the same direction, same speed, same ball of light.
		Red.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did it do anything to you?
unidentified		It stunned me more than anything because it was the first time I've ever seen anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it didn't knock you over like in phenomenon.
unidentified		Oh, no.
		No.
		Ever since I was a little kid, I believed in them.
		Ever since I was a little kid, I've always had the open mind to believe in things like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't believe in them.
		You know, I know they are there, but that does not translate to a belief that I know what they are.
		That sounds like a belief system, like a religion or something.
		And I don't believe in them like a religion.
		I investigate them, but that's very different than being a full-blown believer, you know, like the people in ID4 that went up to the top of the building saying, welcome to Earth.
		Of course, they were the first ones to get zapped, you'll recall.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		All right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Let me turn the radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'd be good.
unidentified		Yeah.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		The reason I'm calling is, are you going to have your quickening on Kate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You still have your radio on, don't you?
unidentified		Oh, I thought I got it off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got to get that radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, it's going to make you sound awful all confused.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Are you going to have a quickening on Kate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eventually.
unidentified		Oh, good, because I got the other one.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		I'm blind, and I thoroughly enjoyed the first book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody asked me about that.
Give Ticket to Monterey Apocalypse 00:06:13
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is so much work writing a book that the truth is that when you get done, you don't want to think about it for a little while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you go into a period of dormancy.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You understand?
		And then later you think about doing it on tape.
		So there will be a version, but I don't want to think about it right now.
unidentified		Okay.
		And then I had a couple other points.
		You know, Father Malachi Martin.
		Yes.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		I wish there was some way that you could have him once a month.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		He fills a need that many, many people have.
unidentified		And he's so educated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've had him on, I think, about four or five times.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to have him come on someday and talk about the ancient languages and what they call the apocalypse or the revelation because there's some people say that that's going to happen and others say that it was written for the time of the early Christians.
unidentified		And which group are you in?
unidentified		I'm kind of in between.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, how can you be in between on that?
		Okay.
		I mean, either we're going to have an apocalypse or we're not.
unidentified		Well, let's put it this way.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		Some of it does point toward Nero and that era.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we'll just have an inert apocalypse.
unidentified		Oh, yes, an inert apocalypse.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		There are other areas of the Bible that talk about the end times.
sherry peel jackson ▲ ● ▼		So as I say, it's kind of how much of it has happened and how much is still going to happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one way of thinking about it, thank you, is that everything has a beginning and an end.
		We have a beginning and we have an end.
		And in the longer run, I think everything else out there has a beginning and an end.
		So one day there will be an end.
		It's just that we don't know when that day is going to be.
		First time call our line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, this is Ron from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, I'm a police officer here in San Diego, and while I was on patrol a few weeks ago, a couple weeks ago, I was listening to your show and that EBS signal came on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And it interrupted your show for probably off and on for about two or three minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably at a very critical moment.
unidentified		Yeah, it was.
unidentified		It was when you were talking to, what's his name from New York?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Richard Hoagland.
unidentified		Richard Hoagland.
		You're talking to him, and that's what happened.
		It's weird that it's happening in other places, too.
		Just totally weird.
		Anyway, there's also one other thing, too, is you're widely listened to here in San Diego in the law enforcement community.
		We just wanted you to know that.
		Oh, well, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good to know.
unidentified		It's quite a deal.
		I was turned onto your show last year when you were with another station.
		Then you came over with good old KFMB, and that was wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I were to get a ticket in San Diego, get stopped, would it get me through that?
unidentified		Let's put it this way: widely known.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for that.
unidentified		I sure appreciate your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		I could tell you about a story about when I was a dispatcher in Monterey.
		And I was, you know, I've always been a Leadfoot.
		I'm a fast driver when I drive.
		Now, lately, I've been driving a lot.
		I work at home.
		I have no reason to drive.
		My poor little car is sitting out there rotting.
		But, you know, when I do drive, I've got kind of a leadfoot, I admit it.
		And I worked at the dispatch center in Monterey.
		And an unnamed policeman, I will not name him.
		He's probably still working.
		Stopped me for doing probably about 30 miles over the speed limit.
		You know, I was really trucking.
		And he started writing out the ticket.
		And I handed him my license.
		And he said, where do you work?
		And I said, Monterey Dispatch, 911.
		And he started uttering a line of bad language that I could not possibly relate to you here on the radio.
		And he, you know, that basically said, why in the hell didn't you tell me that when I stopped you?
		You see, there was no way he was going to give me a ticket.
		I said, look, I don't care.
		I was breaking the law.
		Go ahead and write me up.
		And he said, have you lost your mind?
		Your boss controls my workload.
		Do you understand?
		My workload.
		If I give you this ticket, it's like I'm committing suicide.
		And he absolutely, I asked him, I said, go ahead.
		Come on, write me up.
		And he was angry with me for not telling me where I worked.
		Now he had to rip up the ticket, void it out, do whatever he had to do with it, and I wasn't going to get it.
		I was even asking for it.
		Oh, there you go.
		True story.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Let me turn the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Radio off, yes.
unidentified		Well, I just am calling to just a show idea of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Oh, I'm in La Crosse, Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what is your idea?
unidentified		Well, there's a book out called Mary's Message to the World.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know all about it.
unidentified		Have you?
unidentified		Have you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Interviewed the author.
unidentified		Okay.
		Just have been hearing all this stuff about the quickening, all these terrible things.
		And the question comes up: what can we do?
		And this book kind of deals with that.
		It kind of deals a little bit with free energy.
		She mentions using divine love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's mostly a religious book.
unidentified		I would say yes and no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of mostly yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, The Virgin Mary's Message to the World.
unidentified		Is to not so much to follow a certain religion, but kind of a spiritual manual.
Stealing Weapons, Russian Concerns 00:04:12
unidentified		I would say it's a spiritual book.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nevertheless, the messages are from the Virgin Mary, so the angle is clear.
		But I did interview the author of Mary's Message to the World.
		All right, we're going to pause here at the top of the hour.
		And when we come back, two of the more recent Darwin Award nominees to tell you about.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 24th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, I'm Art Bell.
		Now, the big story is the missing trucks.
		Only I guess they found one of the trucks now, and according to a story I've got, the detection system or the satellite tracking transponder was disconnected.
		Now, the second truck is still missing, apparently, but they're not that worried because it has what they call inert weapons.
		Now I learn they are missiles without warheads.
		Maybe somebody can tell me out there what happens when an inert missile passes through an aircraft.
		So I don't know that inert means not dangerous.
		It may mean no warhead, as in nuclear, hopefully.
		But, you know, would they tell us if there were nuclear weapons on board?
		Well, I'm not so sure.
		It took them four days to tell us that the trucks were missing.
		I can almost imagine that conversation.
		Well, boy, four days have gone by.
		We better tell them.
		We're going to have to tell them.
		I mean, what if one of these things is, God help us, used?
		Then we're going to be in trouble for not telling them they were missing.
		So it took them four days to do that.
		So would they tell us if there was something more than inert?
		I doubt it.
		I kind of doubt it.
		And you know another thing I'm wondering about?
		You know how everybody's always worried that, you know, missiles or warheads or nuclear backpacks or something will be stolen or sold in Russia?
		It is always presumed they will make their way to Iran or Iraq or someplace like that, Libya, and they will end up exploding here in the U.S. How come Russia never worries when something here gets stolen?
		And the answer would seem to be that nobody's thinking about stealing a U.S. weapon to blow up a Russian city.
		The only thinking is that a U.S. weapon, if it is stolen, will be used to blow up a U.S. city.
		You ever think about that?
		And I don't know why I did, but I just did.
		Darwin Award 1 comes from Dan in Sandy, Oregon.
		Art, warning, future Darwin Award winner on the way.
		While on my way home from yet another graveyard shift listening to your affiliate KEX1190, I heard a story that I thought worthy of your time.
		A woman is suing her pharmacy, suing, mind you, for not providing her instruction on the use of the contraceptive jelly that she had purchased.
40-Second Fuse Drama 00:05:51
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She's going to sue them.
		She realized that she must have done something wrong when she became pregnant.
		Apparently, spreading contraceptive jelly on a piece of toast and eating it is not viable.
		It may be time for a new category of Darwin Award, one in which the recipient somehow survives long enough to do something really dumb that results in yet another negative contribution to the gene pool.
		mind that the idea list would be impossibly long.
		I am, however, looking forward to something really spectacular from this little bun in the oven from Dan in Sandy.
		And then this.
		It comes from Michigan.
		A couple of guys buy a brand new Grand Cherokee for about $30,000.
		And they've got $400 plus, actually, in monthly payments.
		So this guy immediately gets hold of his buddy.
		And they go off to do some male bonding.
		You know what that is, right?
		They go duck hunting.
		Of course, all the lakes are frozen.
		These two atomic brains go to the lake with the guns, the dog, the beer, and, of course, the new vehicle.
		They drive out onto the ice lake and get ready.
		Now, they want to make some kind of a natural landing area for the ducks.
		Something, obviously, for the decoys to float around on.
		Remember, it's all ice.
		And in order to make a large hole, one large enough to look like something a wandering duck would want to fly down and land on, it's going to take a little more effort than an ice hole drill.
		So, out of the back of the new Grand Cherokee comes a stick of dynamite with a short 40-second fuse.
		Now, these two rocket scientists do take into consideration that if they place the stick of dynamite on the ice at a location far from where they are standing, a good idea, as well as where the new Grand Cherokee, of course, is, they take the risk of slipping on the ice when they run from the burning fuse and possibly going up in smoke from the resulting blast.
		So, instead, they decide to light this 40-second fuse and throw the dynamite, throw it, which is exactly what they end up doing.
		So far, so good.
		Now, remember a couple of paragraphs back when I mentioned the vehicle, the beer, the guns, and the dog?
		Yes, the dog.
		In fact, a highly trained black lab used for, what else, retrieving especially things thrown by the owner.
		You guessed it.
		The dog takes off immediately at a high rate of dog speed on the ice toward the stick of dynamite with a burning 40-second fuse.
		About the time it hits the ice, all to the woes of these idiots yelling, stomping, waving arms, wondering what the hell do they do now.
		The dog, well, it's happy, tail wagging, legs flying, headed back toward their owners with a stick of dynamite, the fuse continuing to burn.
		Now these two bozos are really waving their arms, yelling even louder, and jumping to new heights than ever before.
		Now, one of the guys decides to think something he has never done before, this moment.
		He grabs a shotgun, sad as it may seems, a seem, and shoots the dog.
		Shoots the dog.
		The shotgun, of course, is loaded with number eight duck shot, hardly big enough to stop a black lab on its appointed rounds.
		So the dog stops for a moment.
		Fuse is still burning, slightly confused, and continues on.
		Another shot.
		This time, the dog is standing, becomes really confused, and of course scared, thinking these two Nobel Prize winners have gone insane, and so he takes off to try to find cover with the now really short fuse burning on the stick of dynamite.
		The cover the dog finds underneath, of course, the brand new Grand Cherokee 30, some thousand dollars plus $400 in monthly payments, sitting on the lake ice.
		Well, of course, kaboom.
		Dog dies instantly.
		Brand new Grand Cherokee, some $30,000 worth, sinks immediately to the bottom of the lake, leaving the two candidates for co-leaders of the known universe standing there with this, I can't believe this has happened look on their faces.
		Later, the owner of the vehicle calls his insurance company, which tells him that sinking a vehicle in a lake by illegal use of explosives is not covered.
Wayne Green's Wind Gust Story 00:10:20
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He had yet to make the first of those $400 plus a month payments.
		A definite candidate, I would say.
		What do you think?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Now you're audio here.
unidentified		Hello.
		All right.
		Well, it's been a long time since I called you.
		First time.
		Let's see.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		We've been listening to your show about since late 1993.
unidentified		And let's see.
unidentified		I had a couple things I wanted to bring up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Spit them out.
unidentified		First one.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		A couple months ago, you had a fellow on your show, and I can't remember his name.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		He had a time machine, and this time machine he built in his backyard, and he told you about how he...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, yes.
unidentified		You probably remember that.
unidentified		He told you about how he...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was Dr. Bell.
unidentified		Right, right.
		And you.
		His grandfather was Alexander Grand Bell or something?
		No.
		Great-grandfather?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe there was a conference.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, he had a time machine, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		And he said he looked out the port and he saw the headlights.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		The headlights were kind of dappled on a car that was going by.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're getting your stories mixed up.
unidentified		No, I specifically remember that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, this man, this man.
		Oh, well, yeah, he did see that in one direction.
		In the other direction, you recall, he went a fraction of a second into the future, and there was nothing.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		And I thought, well, if this car is slowed down to where it's not moving, and he says these photons are not moving.
unidentified		Right.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		Well, if light doesn't move, if photons don't move, they're not hitting your retina.
unidentified		And you're not going to be able to see them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		But he did see them.
unidentified		See what I mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Second time.
dr michael heiser ▲ ● ▼		I want to really thank you for your show and especially for yesterday's show.
unidentified		My goodness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You enjoyed that.
unidentified		That nanotechnology fella?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Holy cow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it was quite a program.
		It was interesting.
		At first, I thought this has got to be over a lot of heads.
		Then it began to sink in.
		And as we went on, it became more and more and more intriguing.
		Nanotechnology.
		It's as though you've got to stop your mind and forget everything that you're programmed for and begin thinking in a new way.
		And when you do, you realize that there is a universe that we know nothing about.
unidentified		Nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's inside, not outside.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		A couple things.
		You mentioned colloidal silver when you were taking a trip to Mexico?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		How was that something with Wayne Green, something he's been on your show a few months before that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it wasn't from Wayne Green, no.
unidentified		Because I've been trying to, well, anyway.
		The while it wasn't, I was interested in how you were taking it.
		So I'm about to do the same thing, go to Mexico and fly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Listen on the air.
		We've got a terrible connection.
		You're obviously in a truck.
		Look, I don't think that whatever I caught I caught in Mexico.
		I think I caught it on the airplane.
		As a matter of fact, I'm sure of it.
		I could hear the people coughing and hacking and sneezing and sick on the airplane, and I could close my eyes and I could envision those little germs winging their way through the airplane's air distribution, or should I say, redistribution system, connecting with me.
		Now, I thought I was bulletproof because I had been drinking so much colloidal silver that I should have been turning silver-colored.
		And I thought I was bulletproof.
		Wrong, wrong, wrong.
		I got the flu, and I got it good.
		And I was down for two or three days.
		That was during the time that some brilliant mind out there decided to write my obituary on the internet, which a lot of people believed, including a lot of my affiliates, I might add.
		On our international line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Erd.
unidentified		This is Tim from Calgary, Golly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Calgary, how you doing, Tim?
unidentified		Not too bad.
unidentified		How about yourself?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
unidentified		Hey, listen, Art.
unidentified		I got a complaint for some of those who seem to like to snipe at you on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, there's no point in even complaining about it.
		They're going to just snipe away.
		That's what I do.
unidentified		I just got a couple points to clear up with them, though.
unidentified		The other night when you had Richard Hoagland on, and he was talking about the security alert at Cheyenne Mountain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		DEF CON 4.
unidentified		Well, there's an article that was released on the internet about the whole conversation, and the title of the article is called Art Bell Falls for Obvious Hoax.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
unidentified		Well, what I want to do, Art, is I want to clear up some points for those that seem to think that you fall for these things by making points that are simple enough.
		In the article, the author goes on to say that, well, I talked to the Canadian liaison officer to NORAD, and he says there was no DEF CON 4, and that the American liaison officer to NORAD couldn't be reached for comment.
		So, but I want to say is, doesn't anybody really understand out there in La La Land that when you ask a government official about something with that kind of security clearance, you know, gee, is there a high security alert at your base?
		Do you think you're honestly going to tell the public, the average Joe and the public, that this is what's going on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, not.
unidentified		Well, exactly.
unidentified		So these are some of the things that I think people should understand before they go out and start writing things and insinuating that, well, look.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, don't worry about it.
		I'm telling you right now, they will write endless things about me on the internet, and they do, and I don't care.
		It just absolutely fails to bother me.
		I have a particular kind of forum that I present here, and I allow people to say what they want to say.
		And if it turns out to be accurate, that's one thing.
		If it turns out to be inaccurate, that's another thing.
		I mean, when ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN all fell for the story of the orgasm pill two weeks ago, did anybody write Networks Fall for Obvious Fraud, Fraudulent Orgasm Pill Story?
		No.
		I mean, it just happens.
		We're in the open, free-flowing information business.
		Some of it's right, some of it's wrong.
		A lot of it you will hear nowhere else.
		That's what it is.
		What people need to understand is that this program is just a little different than others.
		That's all.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, this is John from Bremer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, John.
unidentified		Hey, how you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Hey, listen, I was just calling about that lady truck driver who called you a little while ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who wanted to find the E.T. Highway, huh?
unidentified		Right, yeah, that was 375.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you turn your radio off, please?
unidentified		Oh, sure, yeah.
unidentified		No problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it became the E.T. Highway.
		That's what it is now.
		It's just the E.T. Highway, yeah.
unidentified		I haven't been down there for a while.
unidentified		I was just going to tell her if she finds her way out there, stop at the Little Ailey Inn if she has time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Little Ailey Inn.
unidentified		Right, it's a little hotel bar out that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the walls are lined with memorabilia and that sort of thing.
unidentified		That's right.
		Real friendly people, Joe and Pat.
		I talked to them quite a bit.
		They owe you all kinds of stories.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet they do.
		But they're still healthy.
		And I don't know about wealthy, but wise.
		They're doing fine, and they've lived up there all that time, so it must be okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Hey, Lauren, you have any plans to go down to Roswell for the anniversary?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've thought about it, and I certainly have been invited.
		But the problem is I'm invited to a million places now.
		People want me to come and talk here and there.
		And I can't do it.
		I'm on the air six days a week.
unidentified		Yeah, I noticed.
		I'm glad.
		Somebody listened to you all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, so if I begin accepting these, the show would suffer.
		I can't do that much travel.
		I just don't know what to do about it.
unidentified		Right.
		I don't know.
		Listen, I'm in the Navy.
		I'm on the Carl Vincent out here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're where?
unidentified		On the Carl Vincent.
		I'm in the Navy.
		Really?
		Yeah, I got a bunch of guys listening to you, talking about you all the time.
		I just want to let you know you guys are doing a great job and keep up the good work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not at sea, are you?
unidentified		No.
		No.
		No, we're in the shipyard up here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you rather be in the shipyard or at sea?
unidentified		Well, I'm married.
unidentified		I'd rather be in the shipyard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		Sure, I'll come.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And say hi to your friends.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		R. Bell?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's me.
unidentified		How you doing?
unidentified		My name's Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		In southeast Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I was wondering, did you, on our local news here, they gave a wind gust story of it was 100 estimated at 140 miles per hour somewhere in Louisiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Louisiana, really.
unidentified		Yeah, but they said the reason it was estimated was because the whatever it is that measures the wind would break right off the roof.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you, my friend, we are experiencing micro bursts of unheard of proportions all over the country right now.
A Lot of Trouble 00:15:36
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You tell me.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from April 24th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, have I got a problem?
		Songs like this, they start going through my head, and they don't stop.
		And I've got to hear them again and again and again until my ears literally bleed.
		I think the newscasters are once again pumping out incorrect information.
		The top of the hour news here changed the word inert to unarmed when weapons are considered inert.
		They have a certain certification as such by a licensed weapons tech.
		They're usually painted another color and have the word inert stamped all over it.
		Some are altered even further, such as the inert grenades that you sometimes see in Army surplus stores with the bottom cut open and the upper firing pin missing.
		I own an inert grenade.
		That's right.
		They drill out the bottom of the grenade and take out all the contents.
		And there's a big hole in the bottom.
		Other than that, however, mine has a pin in it.
		And I got in a whole lot of trouble.
		I guess I can tell this story now.
		At a radio station I once worked for, which I will not name.
		I do these things, and you know, I shouldn't.
		They're really not that funny.
		Was funny, you know.
		They were sitting at their respective consoles at this radio station, and I took my inert grenade and quietly opened the studio door and rolled it into the middle of the room.
		Well, I got into a lot of trouble.
		They, of course, immediately abandoned their posts screaming and yelling, ran down the hall, out the front door.
		Dead air, except for the screams.
		And I got in terrible trouble.
		But it was, you know, when you think back on it later, it was funny.
		Just not at the time.
		God, I got in a lot of trouble for that.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello there.
		Goodbye.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Art.
		Hello.
		Mr. Negative here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Negative, what are you negative about?
unidentified		Your ads.
		Okay.
		In January, I bought one of those Beijing radios, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Very fine radio, by the way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
unidentified		But you keep saying, buy it soon, because soon we're going to run out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		We don't know.
		It's like day to day.
		I said last time.
		Day to day.
		You see, these come from South Africa.
		They're shipped in containers to San Francisco.
		The factory has warned us that the shipments have stopped.
		But there's a lag time.
		In other words, it takes a long time for a ship to come from South Africa to San Francisco and then for the containers to be offloaded and gone through by customs and all that baloney and make it to where we can sell them.
		So we are not exactly sure when the last of the supply is coming.
		It's literally now on a day-to-day basis is your answer.
unidentified		Well, it just seems funny to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		It's not funny.
		When you're selling something that's very popular, you don't want to run out of it.
		It's not funny.
unidentified		Well, It seems to me that they should have somewhat more control over their inventory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they don't.
		Look, South Africa is A, a very new country.
		B, the manufacturing is not exactly on a scale that we have it here.
		And C, there's transportation from South Africa to the U.S. and customs, as I explained to you.
		There are a lot of uncontrollable things there.
unidentified		Okay, so they don't know if the last ship has set sail?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It may have, yeah.
		We think that it has, but we don't know.
		So there you go.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was it.
		Well, anyway, glad you're now informed.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		Dan.
		I'm Calm from Long Beach, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I called to ask you if you ever heard of Newsline that only comes on certain ham radio frequencies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, yes.
unidentified		Okay, the reason I was asking is because I was listening to one of the newslines on there, and I was wondering if you caught the one where you were mentioned on there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better than that, I've got the text.
unidentified		You do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everybody's been writing stories about me, including the ham radio publications and so forth.
		So, yes, I read it.
		Oh, yes, I read it.
		Big profile piece.
unidentified		And I do have one other question for you.
unidentified		I'm starting to get into ham radio with the repeaters and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I was wondering if you could recommend any publications for the beginners and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you already have a license?
unidentified		I only got it as a regular ham radio operator's license.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What class?
unidentified		I don't remember.
unidentified		I got it yesterday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then I doubt that you have it.
		What I recommend you do is go to like a radio shack, and there they have license study manuals, and you will learn enough with that in a tape to take a test.
		And you want to get a novice license or a tech license.
		No code tech.
unidentified		I've seen those books.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And once you get your license, then you'll go from there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But any radio shack, I think, generally has the book.
unidentified		Well.
		Okay.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		You're welcome.
		Believe me, had you passed a ham test, you would know what license class you were.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, I was calling to see, Art, is our planet leaving its orbit?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		It's ours.
		You mean you're just now getting that news?
unidentified		Yeah, that our planet is leaving because I heard they've been adjusting the atomic clocks, what is it, like 20 times in the last 50 years or something like that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we're actually going to move in and become the second planet from the sun.
unidentified		Wouldn't it be a lot warmer then, wouldn't it, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what it would seem, yeah.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		That comes under the category of a silly answer to a silly question.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		This is Roy from Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Roy.
unidentified		Yeah, I have a question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get into that phone and speak up.
unidentified		Okay, I wanted to find out your email address.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's artbell at aol.com.
unidentified		Oh, simple.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, and one last thing.
unidentified		Where are you broadcasting from right now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A secret location.
unidentified		A secret location.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the Nevada desert.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All righty, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		A place called Perump, Nevada.
		P-A-H-R-U-M-P.
		But it sounds sexier to say a secret location in the Nevada desert.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
unidentified		Good.
		I was wondering, on Richard Hoagland's website, I was trying to log on to it, and I couldn't get into any of the files.
		And I was wondering if you knew if anything was wrong with it or that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're probably not authorized.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What security level clearance do you have?
unidentified		Oh, top secret.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Top secret?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it should have just whisked you right through that.
unidentified		I even went through your website, and it still wouldn't let me.
unidentified		In fact, I even...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, then see, what you actually have is a problem with your computer.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What web browser are you using?
unidentified		Well, I'm on AOL.
		I don't know.
		I'm pretty new to the thing here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, AOL 3.0, is that what you're using?
unidentified		No, 3.0, I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		That would be the first thing to do.
		Update to AOL 3.0.
		Uh-huh.
		And that should help you.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You just go into AOL and go to their update section, upgrade, and you'll find it.
unidentified		Oh, okay, great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Well, it's nice talking with you.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good talking to you.
		Generally, it's cockpit error.
		There are problems occasionally with web pages.
		But a lot of people will write and say, I can't get graphics or I can't do that.
		Generally, whatever.
		Generally, that is a problem connected.
		You know, it's cockpit error.
		In other words, you don't have the right browser, or you don't have some sort of audio, real audio program installed, or whatever.
		So usually, usually, it's cockpit error.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, I was wondering.
		I'm a big Three Studios fan.
		I was wondering, they used to call each other knuckleheads.
		And sometimes somebody would call them knuckleheads, but I never heard them call a woman a knucklehead.
		Is that okay?
		Because you do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, knucklehead, I wouldn't think would be a sexist thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It implies dummy.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I work with a bunch of elderly women.
		I feel like calling them that sometimes.
		I was just wondering what you thought about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you mean whether you should or not call them knuckleheads?
unidentified		Well, if I did, would it be inappropriate to call a woman a knucklehead?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if inappropriate would be the right phrase, but if you call her a knucklehead, what she might do is hit you.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And hitting her back.
		Now, that would be inappropriate.
		I was just saying, you know, if I were you, I would bite my tongue and not call them anything.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Just checking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, just answer it.
		On our international line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		I'm Dana calling from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Edmonton, Alberta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I tell you, this is a very Darwin night.
		Mr. Negative, the ham guy.
		Yes.
		And the moving planet guy.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I just keep writing them down.
		I'm laughing too hard tonight.
		This is a lot of entertainment.
budd hopkins ▲ ● ▼		But you brought up one thing earlier on in the show in talking about this truck with these inert missiles that are missing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The inert missiles, yes.
unidentified		What would you do?
		Okay, I'm now appointing you as President of the United States.
		You cannot decline this appointment.
		All right.
		You're getting things straightened out, doing this, doing that, and knocking your door.
		Mr. President, I'm trying to give you a drama here.
		Go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, what's the problem?
unidentified		We have four missing nuclear missiles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nuclear missiles.
unidentified		Nuclear missiles are ready to go.
unidentified		What do we do, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take a poll.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to get on the air, we take a poll, have a fireside chat, and we take a poll.
unidentified		Yeah?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when we get the results of the poll, we act.
		A poll of your American people.
		We ask them.
unidentified		The American people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We ask them, what do you think we should do?
unidentified		Don't you think the only problem here is that you might cause a lot of panic?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
unidentified		That's the only danger involved, I think, with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you see, the way I think, if I'm the current president, is I'm going to get in a whole lot more trouble if one of them goes off and I haven't said anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And since I have a very hard time making any sort of real decision on my own, I take a poll.
unidentified		And by taking this poll, you're saying, well, you apparently, sir, are unfamiliar with our president.
		No, I'm getting more familiar all the time.
		Unfortunately, I work midnight hours, and most of the news I hear is on yours.
		I don't get a lot of news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		But, yeah, your president is learning well from our prime ministers and our Canadian politics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that the way it is up there?
unidentified		Let her slide and don't say anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wishy-washy people.
		Witch your finger.
		Wedge finger, put it up in the air, see how the wind blows.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go that away.
unidentified		True, liberal politics?
unidentified		It'll surely get you elected the next time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way it works.
unidentified		Have you ever thought about putting out an Art Bell bumper music CD?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No, because most of this music does not belong to me.
		Now, I suppose you could go to the various artists and you could get rights for it and then put out an Art Bell Bumper Music CD.
unidentified		Yeah, because a lot of people tend to like your music, and it, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like my music.
unidentified		Yeah, well, you do, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		But a lot of people have asked about it on your show, and about what time, why don't you do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		I don't think you'd make a lot of money off it, but just something to do.
		You don't sound like you're a very busy guy.
		I think so.
		I don't.
		I'm very busy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		I'm doing an interview tomorrow morning for the San Jose about noontime for the San Jose Mercury News.
		And then Monday, I am doing an interview for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, which is flying in.
Ouija Boards and RNA Technology 00:03:51
unidentified		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me?
		Busy?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Ann.
		I'm calling from Port Orchard, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Ann.
unidentified		And could you please, please have on your show, as a guest, one of the military men that was from Gulf Breeze?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have.
unidentified		Recently?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, not too recently, no.
unidentified		Oh, because I was just thinking with all this stuff that's going on that I wondered if they were really remote viewers and not so much maybe Ouija boards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, they were Ouija board guys.
		I heard the story.
		Believe me.
		They allegedly went AWOL from Europe and ended up, as you know, in the Gulf Breeze area.
		And it was all as a result of messages from a Ouija board.
		Now, they were not remote viewers.
unidentified		Oh, I see.
unidentified		Well, I heard one was living, I believe, in Denver, if I'm not mistaken, but I just found it real interesting how he said on the show that they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like they were told by a force to leave.
unidentified		Right, they say.
unidentified		Yes, and that he said that he was going to go in hiding until the year 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they weren't that much in hiding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had them on the show.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		I meant around 1997, if I'm not mistaken, when Seattle had him, I think, on Channel 5.
		They carried it for a special about four years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was a very, very strange story indeed, and worthy of an interview.
		It was very interesting.
		I interviewed the fellows.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		How are you doing, Art?
		Okay.
		Well, from New Orleans, WSMB.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I wanted to tell you, Dr. Charles Osman you had on last night was the very best.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he was good.
		Oh, he was so good.
		And, you know, it sort of slowly dawned on you as you continued to listen.
		I mean, the guy was going very fast.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he knew what he was saying.
		And you suddenly realized I'm hearing a real genius here.
		And if I just buckle in and really begin to listen, I'm going to learn something.
		And that's what we did.
unidentified		I wanted to say one thing.
		You know, all this evolved from RNA DNA technology.
		You know, if you think about it, he was talking about ribonucleads and stuff like that last night.
		Yes.
		And it's all from the AIDS virus and everything.
		They had to study RNA DNA to even come up with a conceptual treatment for AIDS.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you could manipulate at the molecular level, you could easily and quickly cure AIDS, those stricken and those who would be stricken, no problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, you could do anything.
unidentified		I see it as the new, the pioneer, the new airplane, you know, for the future.
		Instead of industrial revolution, it's the airplane revolution, you know, because there are so many, besides industrial and commercial things you could do with it.
		I mean, there's so many things that can apply to technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's way beyond that.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would change the entire world.
		The entire world.
		Farmers would disappear because food would be manufactured.
		It's the wrong word.
		Food would be produced by manipulation at the molecular level.
		You could make a steak.
		You could make a potato.
		You could make anything you wanted.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Bland.
Call Signs and Updates 00:11:59
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Bland.
unidentified		How are you tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't have a lot of time, so you better let her rip.
unidentified		Okay, well, my first question is: when I go back to Austin in June, I'd like to get the number from you for the San Antonio Art Bell Chat Club.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't happen to have that handy, but it's on the air from time to time.
unidentified		All right, second thing.
unidentified		When you come back from your break, could you talk about Mr. David Oates, please?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would you want me to tell you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		His house was burned down.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		Have you heard anything from him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, there's no more update.
		He's will let you know as soon as he finds a place or there's anything more to tell.
		Yes, of course I'll let you know, but there is no update to give you.
unidentified		Okay.
		Okay.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		And we are going to break here at the top of the air, find out what the latest news is, see what's going on with these inert weapons that seem to be missing.
		Why is everybody always presumes the USA will be the target of anything missing anywhere?
unidentified		The trip back in time continues.
		With Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM, more Somewhere in Time coming up.
		We take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me get this straight.
		We've got a truck with four Air Force missiles on it.
		Inert, they say, training missiles, workable in every way, minus the warhead.
		Now, they just finished having an Air Force spokeswoman on who said that there was no danger to the public.
		Okie-Doki.
		Do you remember not very long ago when everybody was talking about the possibility of a missile bringing down Flight 800?
		Well, they didn't find any explosive, and the thinking then, as I recall, was that a missile might have passed through the aircraft, bringing it down.
		So now, if that's possible, does that still make these missiles in the inert category?
		Or is it just the way the American press is reporting all of this?
		Just a thought.
		Have you heard about the alliance between Russia and China signed today?
		Yes, I have.
		It is to counter, quote, American dominance, unquote, of the world.
		Does this sound like Gog and Megog to you?
		Yes.
		Eric in Birmingham, Alabama.
		Yes, why would China?
		There's a lot of good questions out there.
		China and Russia make an alliance because they are worried about us dominating the world?
		Well, from Ed and National Art, you said those missiles had been missing now four days.
		Are you sure about the timeline?
		No, I'm not sure, Ed.
		That is what they are reporting.
		That doesn't mean that's what's true, nor with regard to the contents does it mean it's true.
		Believe me, Ed, the real story is not out there, and we'll be lucky if we learn it years later.
		You know, years later, we'll probably get a report like about 15 years later.
		It has just been revealed that at one time, four nuclear-tipped missiles were missing from a supply truck and fell into the hands of God knows who.
		And, you know, in other words, you don't learn about these things until much later.
		And I know I'm beginning to sound a little cynical, but experience has made me so.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, I was just listening to the news on your break.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And they reported the missiles as being dummy missiles.
unidentified		And to me, that seems a little different than inert, because if it were a dummy missile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what I was trying to point out.
		I mean, they thought 800 might have been brought down by an inert missile.
		One that just passed through it?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's, you know, I mean, it depends on how you define inert.
		I think that they could still do a lot of damage if what they think about Flight 800 is true.
		Then what they're saying now about the missing missiles is not true.
unidentified		Yeah, and describing it as a dummy missile makes me think that it'd be a missile that can't even launch.
unidentified		Like a scale model almost, but.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe it's a stupid missile.
		Maybe it doesn't have a guidance system.
		I suspect it does, though, and missing just the warhead.
		And if that's true, then I don't think I would use the word inert.
unidentified		True.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's something to calm people down.
		Inert?
		Oh, no sweat.
		Right?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think there's some sweat.
unidentified		Also, I was wanting to relate an experience.
		About four years back, I was out stargazing with a friend, and I saw a few lights in the sky.
		And as we were watching, a little light broke off of one of these and went and seemed to connect to another light.
		And it seemed to me to be some kind of alien thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I believe in that or not, but it was why do you presuppose it would be alien?
unidentified		Because it seemed too far off and too star-like to be any human-made object.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, there it is, folks.
		Another sighting report.
		What do you do with those?
		I don't know.
		You could spend days and days and days taking them.
		I really generally don't take them because so many Americans have seen these things that there's just no argument about it.
		The question is, what are they?
		Where are they from?
		What do they intend to do?
		And do they eat humans?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Well, good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be morning, yes.
unidentified		It would be.
		I'm in Redding, California.
		I'm an over-the-truck.
		I live in Oklahoma.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Question occurred to me the other night as I was coming over Loveland Pass in Colorado was listening to you.
		If you're not west of the Rockies, you're not east of the Rockies, you're right on top of the Rockies.
		What number do you call?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
unidentified		Just curious.
unidentified		That's not why I called, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You probably call the wildcard line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You get all confused and call the wildcard line.
unidentified		Oh, well, that makes sense.
		Like I said, I'm an over-the-road truck driver.
		I have a very good working knowledge of the satellite system that you guys were talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that tracks trucks.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Thought I might be able to offer some useful data.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm not sure exactly that the military version of that is exactly the same as the civilian version.
unidentified		These weren't military trucks.
		These are civilian trucks.
		The military hires trucking companies to haul this freight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let us say, Sarah, that you had a bunch of missiles on a truck.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you wanted to escape detection.
unidentified		What would you do?
		Park under something metal.
		Number one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Transfer the missiles into another truck.
unidentified		That would be possible.
unidentified		Okay.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		But another thing you can do is simply cover the antenna with tinfoil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Or unplug it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or unplug it, yes.
unidentified		the antenna.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		Our satellite communication systems are set up to, they have two antennas, one One is a global positioning receiver, GPS receiver.
		The other one is just strictly a communications transponder.
		Every 20 minutes, my computer downloads GPS data and transmits it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you feel about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Being tracked?
unidentified		I love it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		At first, I mean, I've been doing this for seven years, and when we first got them, I was a little like, oh, great, you know.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		What I was afraid of was that the government was going to be able to start using it to track logbook stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		so far that hasn't happened so far that in other words you can still screw up your log book as much as you want and fake it uh...
		from here to kingdom come and there's no repercussions I wouldn't go that far.
unidentified		I wouldn't go that far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know darn well that's about right, though.
unidentified		No, there's plenty of repercussions.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		It's just that it's not a, it's, I don't want, that's something I don't want to get into right now.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		Oh, by the way, I drive through Nevada quite a bit on Highway 93.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give your call letters on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, when you give your call letters on the air, then you give away your address.
unidentified		Oh, no, I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you do.
unidentified		I haven't moved twice since the call book ever knew where I was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I never know that when people give their call letters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, so you're a ham.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I wonder, do you ever haunt any two-meter repeaters in the area?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do I haunt them?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, occasionally.
		I'm on 8-8.
		On 8-8?
		Yeah, that's a big one up here.
unidentified		Oh, I know the one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a big one on PODIC.
unidentified		Yeah, I know the one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm occasionally on there, but listening to it for extended periods can lead to madness.
unidentified		Well, also, you have a lot to do.
unidentified		I'm sure you don't have a lot of time for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't, but I try.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I make time.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you ever hear me on there, and after the call sign, I always say 18-wheel mobile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I don't know your call sign, but I sure would appreciate it if you'd answer me one of these.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's W6OBB.
unidentified		W6OBB.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Old broken bottles.
unidentified		Old broken boy.
unidentified		Bowie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
unidentified		I can remember that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
unidentified		Well, listen, you have a good night.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		And one more thing.
unidentified		One more thing.
		If there's any way in the world, I drive coast to coast.
		Is there any way in the world to get a station list?
		I have a hard time finding you something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's on my website.
unidentified		I don't have a computer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a friend who has a computer?
unidentified		I don't have any friends.
unidentified		I'm a truck driver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have any friends.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't even have any friends.
unidentified		I don't have a life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have a life.
		Well, our newsletter has an affiliate list, I think.
		So.
unidentified		Do you have someone there I can give my address to or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm the only one here.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do this all by myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm like a one-man band.
unidentified		Very interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		Okay, well, I'll tell you what.
dr jonathan reed ▲ ● ▼		Do you have an address and give me about five minutes to get back out to the truck?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'll try and remember to give it out, all right?
unidentified		And I'll send you a self-addressed stamped envelope.
		Fair enough?
		Uh-oh, I put him on the spot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you see, what happens is if I say, oh, sure, then I'll get 10,000 requests, and I'll never be able to fulfill them.
unidentified		Well, that makes that okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I just know it to, thank you.
		I know it to be true.
		You know, I'm not sure how I can help you out here.
		Maybe we'll figure something out at the network.
		But I have learned, believe me, through the school of hard knocks, that to say yes, one time, many years ago, long before I was on a big network, or this, or we became a big network, I guess, somebody called an innocent request and said, hey, Art, can I send you a self-addressed stamped envelope?
		And if so, will you send me a picture?
Heavily Escorted Nuclear Transport 00:03:47
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, sure.
		Innocent me, I said, sure.
		Well, thousands of envelopes arrived.
		And I felt obligated, and so I had to go out.
		I got a picture taken, and then I had to have thousands of them made, and then I had to put stamps on most of the envelopes that didn't even have stamps and mail them off to thousands of people.
		So since that time, I have learned to be very, very careful about saying, oh, sure.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Art, yes.
unidentified		This is Pete in Kansas City.
		Hi.
		Two things.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		Inert weapons means no propellant, no explosive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then what good are they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what?
unidentified		That's what they use to train the guys to fix them.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, to fix them, hang them on the launch rails, and so forth, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But now the news is saying unarmed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		That means no warhead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But propellant.
unidentified		But probably propellant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		Second thing, nuclear weapons are never transported off a military reservation by ground transport.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		No.
		They fly them.
		Heavily escorted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		You might remember back in the 70s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're talking, no, about transporting high-level nuclear waste by truck, sir.
unidentified		Well, that's different.
unidentified		That's not explosive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not different in the sense that if pure weapons grade plutonium were to get loose, it would kill millions of people.
unidentified		Well, yeah, that's true.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		But the weapons themselves are never transported by ground.
unidentified		I see.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		You might remember back in the 70s, a U.S. Army Chinook helicopter made a forced landing on East Coast Beach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not specifically.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, anyway, seconds later, this made headlines.
unidentified		Seconds later, another Chinook landed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		disgorged heavily armed U.S. Army troops, surrounded helicopter number one, told everybody on the beach to take a hike, including cops who arrived on the scene.
unidentified		They found themselves looking down the wrong end of an M16.
ted fraley ▲ ● ▼		So when those things are moved, they're moved by air, and they are very heavily escorted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I have, again, I would like to ask you a question, all right?
		We are hearing a lot these days about stolen or sold Russian nuclear weapons.
		Right?
		Yep.
		I've never heard anybody talk about these things being used against Russia or anybody else.
		Whenever you hear it, it's always that they would be used here.
unidentified		We're the big dogs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Moreover, if there are missing weapons here, nobody ever worries that they will be used in Russia or against the Russians.
		Even the Russians don't worry about it.
		We worry that they will be used by our own people against us.
		Now think about what that means.
unidentified		That's kind of a political paranoia, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for the call, sir.
		You bet.
		Take care.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello.
		Hello.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing.
unidentified		This is Mike in Austin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's Austin?
unidentified		Oh, I guess it's getting colder.
		Got a front commander.
		Mm-hmm.
		I just had something interesting about colloidal silver.
		Yes.
		This is a letter to a doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't read to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just tell me about it.
unidentified		Well, the doctor says, in essence, says to the writer, he says, you are confusing topco and systemic use of antibiotics.
Why Colloidal Silver? 00:15:39
unidentified		The reason silver preparation work on your sore throat is because the throat is an extension of your skin and is thus amenable to topco treatment with certain agents such as peroxide and silver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can use, they say, colloidal silver on your throat or you can use it topically on your skin, or they say you can drink it and then be relatively immune to viruses.
		And I tried it.
		All I can tell you is I tried it.
		I don't want to get into arguments with people here, but I was trying a very high grade of it, and I was drinking it, and I was using it topically, and I thought I was bulletproof.
		Well, guess what?
		I wasn't.
		I got the flu, and people on the internet said I was dead and everything, and it just didn't work for me.
		And I had been using it for weeks prior to going to Mexico, and in fact, I used it while I was there and when I came back.
		And I still got sick as a dog.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Good morning, Art.
		Tim in Denver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Tim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Okay.
		I wanted to answer a couple questions for people.
		First of all, the gentleman that called about the affiliates list, if he will give me a call, I will get it to him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, that's one of the things the club provides.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you really do provide a service.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, what is your latest affiliate count?
unidentified		350-something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, it's way wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've got three, an aggregate of 360-something, $349 for Coast.
unidentified		Well, I'll print up a new copy tomorrow, a new set of books.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, if he calls you and your number is what?
unidentified		Okay, this is for the Art Bell Chat Club in Denver.
		Right.
		And the area code is 303-303-477-477.
		Excuse me.
		303-456.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, Tim.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		I'm sorry, I just about gave out the bookstore number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		303-457.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's why I don't let people give out numbers.
unidentified		457-456-1456.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm going to do this again.
		Tim, don't be very careful with this.
		The number Tim just gave, I think, listen carefully, Tim.
		Area code 303-456-1456.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that the correct number?
unidentified		Yes.
		Sorry about that.
		I just about gave the bookstore number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not as sorry as the bookstore would have been.
unidentified		Well, they have answered the phone for us before, but now that we have our own line.
unidentified		Anyway, if the gentleman will give us a call on that number and leave me his name and mailing address, I'll get that out to him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'll send an affiliate list.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And also the gentleman that called about the club in San Antonio, I can give out the San Antonio Club number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know, Tim, that most networks' shows do not disclose their affiliate lists?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that?
unidentified		No, I didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Most talk show hosts will not disclose their affiliate lists.
		Most networks will not.
		You know why they don't?
unidentified		Why that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because mostly they lie.
		Oh, okay.
		Hear people say, I've got 200 affiliates.
		Well, where's your list?
		Well, we don't publish that.
		Anyway, you were going to give out something else.
unidentified		What is that?
unidentified		The San Antonio Club telephone number was calling and asking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, now get it right.
unidentified		Oh, I most certainly will.
		In San Antonio, if you're interested in attending the meeting next Tuesday night, The Cell.
		The area code is 210-210-734.
		734-2781.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		2781.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you've done your duty, Tim.
unidentified		Well, I wanted to tell you I got my book today, and boy, is it terrific.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the quickening?
unidentified		The quickening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is.
		You're right.
		I want your assessment after you have read the entire book.
unidentified		Well, I can't give time to read it because everyone wants to see it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Tim, thank you.
		We are, there's no point in even calling.
		We don't have books for sale.
		The entire print run went away in two weeks.
		Bo-whoosh.
		And so it'll be mid-May, and we'll have more books.
		Maybe a little sooner.
		I'll let you know.
		Until then, sorry, we're out.
		That's just the way it is.
		We're going to break here at the bottom of the hour.
		This is a sort of anything goes night.
		Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
		Tomorrow night, Robert Ghost Wolf, right here.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 24th, 1997.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from April 24th, 1997.
		Good morning on Me Too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		ABC is charging that NBC pirated its news footage of the explosive hostage situation in Lima, Peru, and is planning to send an official complaint to the Peacock Bress.
		So, as a matter of fact, they claim that an ABC logo popped up on NBC at the end of its telecast.
		Shocking.
		A copyright violation, an ABC spokeswoman said.
		We have a long-standing agreement with NHK, and they do claim that the ABC logo actually aired on NBC.
		Gee, how embarrassing for them.
		And this, Art, tell that trucker, your station list on the website can be obtained at most college libraries.
		Ask the librarian to show you a computer access.
		Mike, that's not a bad idea.
		It's true.
		My website is www.artbell.com.
		www.artbell.com.
		And there is a soon-to-be-updated affiliate list.
		We are growing at such a rapid rate that keeping an up-to-date affiliate list there is difficult, but I can tell you that we are at presently for Coast to Coast AM, 349 affiliates, and we'll get that latest list up there very quickly.
		And I think Dreamland is now at 251 or something like that.
		As I said, most networks never post these things.
		We do.
		You will hear a lot of syndicated hosts on the air say we're on 200 stations, but they will never supply you with a list of those.
		We have no reason not to do so.
		Our list is precisely correct.
		And so we post it.
		No big deal.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He hung up.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
		Hi, this is Gary from Triver City, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
willie nelson ▲ ● ▼		And I would like to know where you got that story about this dog in the Jeep Cherokee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was sent to me.
unidentified		Huh.
unidentified		I find it very hard to believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what part of it is hard to believe?
willie nelson ▲ ● ▼		Well, duck season's way over before there's ice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this would, I guess that might be.
		I've never gone hunting ducks, so I don't know that.
		So nobody hunts duck in the wintertime?
unidentified		No.
willie nelson ▲ ● ▼		No, it's well over before there's any ice on the lakes at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it seems to me, what if the ducks fly somewhere or go away?
unidentified		Oh, they go south.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They go south.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they wouldn't be there.
unidentified		They're migrating right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you doubt the story.
unidentified		I highly doubt it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's funny as hell, though.
		Except for the dog.
		I mean, the dog, the poor dog.
unidentified		Whoever put it together did a good job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I could understand that, you know, if a dog is happily wagging its tail, coming back with a stick of dynamite about to go off, you might take a shot at it.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And a dog, having nowhere else to hide on the ice, would certainly duck under a car.
		That's what dogs do.
		All of it made sense.
		But now you're telling me that.
willie nelson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I find it, you know, unless, you know, the UP, but I can't see where there'd be ice on the lakes up there during duck season either, because, you know, the upper peninsula gets a lot colder than a lower does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're from Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You ought to know.
willie nelson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've just found it really hard to believe.
unidentified		You know, whoever put it together did a good job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when I get these kinds of stories and they're this good, I consider them either to be true or not.
		You never know.
		But either way, entertainment, and that it was.
		Right.
unidentified		So, okay, well, you have a good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You too, sir.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		Get my radio down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get that radio.
unidentified		North-flowing rivers.
unidentified		Are you familiar with the Willamette River here in the Willamette Valley?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it flows north.
unidentified		Yeah, almost the whole state.
unidentified		As a matter of fact, where it hits the Columbia, it goes north for a while, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's really interesting are rivers that flow uphill.
unidentified		Yeah, that would be interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They say the mighty Missouri did that once.
unidentified		I heard the Mississippi reversed once during an earthquake or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the New Madrid Fault.
unidentified		You okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was that a sneeze?
unidentified		Oh, no, I'm over it.
		Okay.
		I'm not getting sick or nothing.
		Not using that silver either.
		No, I went through it just about the time you did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Oh, man.
		I thought I was so bulletproof.
unidentified		Well, the first week I thought I was going to die.
unidentified		The second week I was afraid I wasn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, that's the way they go.
		Whatever it is, thank you.
		These flus, they're horrible.
		In fact, our network has been decimated for the better part of the year with people down with the flu.
		And it seems to recirculate.
		And I'm also extremely suspicious of companies that sell flu medicine.
		I think they send out little armies of vice presidents with vials of flu.
		I'm kidding, of course.
		But it is curious that they know exactly when to advertise flu medicine.
		Haven't you ever wondered about that?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Well, hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I can't believe I got you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's what everybody seems to say, but you do, nevertheless.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller from where?
unidentified		I'm from Eatonville, Washington at the base of Mount Rainier.
		Uh-huh.
		Ah, and I love your show.
		My girlfriend told me all about you, and I tuned you in, and she told me about a show you did on the Gulf War syndrome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Joyce Riley.
unidentified		Yes, and I wanted to talk to you about it because I suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome, which they affiliate the two together, or they think that the two might be one and the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's microplasma incognitis.
unidentified		Say that again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure I can.
		Don't trust me.
		Microplasma incognitis.
unidentified		See, now I've never heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a thing that they think might be causing what you're experiencing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you may have it from a separate source, or maybe you've got somebody who was over in the Gulf War.
unidentified		Well, see, that's just it.
		That's kind of odd because my ex-boyfriend's stepson was there.
		He was one of the first troops to go in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And him and I met when he came back, but he was never sick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I'm wondering if he couldn't have been a carrier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he could have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you got sick after that?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, there you are.
		Yes, that's exactly what Joyce Riley said, that this appears now to be catching, and that relatives and friends of those who were there are coming down and getting ill.
		Now, they're still arguing about chemical weapon exposure, and you don't hear our politicians even mention biological, but I think that's of more concern, particularly if it's contagious.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hey, Art.
		This is Wayne over here in Houston, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, I just heard on the local radio station during the news break that the scientists had discovered a new planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They have.
unidentified		That was pretty cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's fairly cool.
		They've been discovering a lot of new planets lately.
		But it is true.
		As a matter of fact, what did they say that it was the size?
		Here, let me read you.
		Astronomers announced the discovery of a Jupiter-sized planet orbiting a nearby star Thursday, boosting their confidence that there are yet many more planets to be found, perhaps even some that harbor life.
		The object orbiting is hardly the first to be discovered circling another star, depending on how you count.
		It's somewhere in the 9th to 13th range.
		Yes.
unidentified		I got one more question.
		What's that guy from, what is that, the C City?
		Stephen Greer, Dr. Is he going to be on any time?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd love to have him on.
		We'll have Dr. Greer on and ask him how it went with the testimony.
		He went back to Washington and brought a bunch of people.
		You know, I'm sure, well, I can't speak for him, but I'm sure he is to some degree disappointed that there was not more impact in the press.
		I knew he was going to do it.
		I had him on the show, of course.
		And did the big networks pick it up?
		Have we heard about it?
		Yes, of course.
		But we would hear.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Ray from Hawaii.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing, Ray?
unidentified		Pretty good.
		And I love your show.
		I'm a first-time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where in Hawaii are you?
unidentified		Oahu.
		I'm up in the hills about in the middle of the island, Salt Lake.
		Okay.
		And what I wanted to know, you said anything goes tonight.
		How about the negative aspects of religion?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Well, for one thing, I think that most of them want you to worship an unseen God, an unseen heaven, an unseen hell, and then they want a cash contribution of seen money.
Keeping Criminals Caged 00:02:23
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they don't want you to worship hell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't want you to worship hell.
unidentified		They don't want you to worship hell, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
unidentified		Well, they want you to believe in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		But anyway, another one of my objections to it is they believe...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are some people that worship hell, actually, but they're not generally the, you know, organized religion.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Well, I've got a doctor's degree in psychology, which is not academic, but I do some writing, you know what I mean?
		And I wrote an article on the negative aspects of religion.
		And another one of my gripes is these people that love their enemy.
		In other words, they forgive these criminals that are killing people and let them loose again and again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because we're stupid.
		In other words, once somebody has demonstrated a lifelong dedication to committing crimes and hurting people, at some point, and of course there have been laws passed about this, a repetitive, recidivistic, mean SOB ought to be kept behind bars forever.
		Once he has demonstrated he has a lifelong ambition to hurt people, break things, and commit crime, then that should be it.
		I've thought in the past about perhaps an island.
		I mean, you know about, you remember escape from New York and the more recent escape from LA?
		Well, that's too close.
		But an island out in the Pacific where you would take really bad people and just leave them to their own devices.
		Let them parachute down.
		Even give them a backup parachute.
		And they land, and then either they integrate into the community of pirates and bad guys, or not.
		Usually not.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the end.
Missiles And Misunderstandings 00:15:36
unidentified		Hey, how you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I love your show, and just wanted to call and say thanks a lot for all the work that you're doing.
		Keep up the good work with having the great guests on.
		And I'd also like to say hello to your board up in Hawaii, Gina.
		Haven't heard from her for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gina is no longer there, I think.
unidentified		Oh, too bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But as a matter of fact, we had Gina's photograph up on the website.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For all I know, it's still up there.
unidentified		I saw it.
		I was on your website this past Sunday.
		I thought it was beautiful.
		Yep.
		All right, thanks, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, sir.
		Gina was indeed a real looker.
		But I believe that she has come back to the States.
		I'm not certain about that, but I think that's what she was doing.
		Boy, I said that incorrectly.
		Back to the continental U.S. First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Howdy.
unidentified		This is Tom from the High Desert in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tom.
unidentified		Yeah, I just had a couple of theories to throw out there about the missiles.
		There was four of them, right?
		yet that's what i'm told and uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		no i i really don't believe much of what they're saying You don't, no, they lie a lot.
unidentified		I agree, especially if the timeline is correct.
unidentified		I mean, how can you believe a government if four days later they tell you something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
unidentified		Anyway, there's four of them.
unidentified		And wasn't that A-10 carrying four bombs also?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, one, two, three, four, five hundred-pound bombs, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They say.
unidentified		Well, we'll find out if they find those pretty soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they claim they found the A-10.
unidentified		Yeah, but I also know there was an A-10 that went down in Georgia a day or two before they found the original.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true, yes.
unidentified		Well, anyway, that was theory one.
unidentified		Theory two about the missiles is more has to do with Flight 800.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I was thinking?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What if the military, in the way the military normally does things, to confuse possible Darwin Award winners, marks all the inert missiles active and all the active ones inert?
unidentified		That sounds like our government doing things backwards, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that is exactly how they do things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, just a psychological kind of thing.
unidentified		Yeah, that was my second theory.
		I was assuming that all those witnesses that saw something flying up in the air, pilots that were flying, saw the same thing.
		And maybe now someone has pushed their way into the military to take an inventory of what's missing and what's not missing.
		And maybe this is their way of backpedaling and saying, okay, we're missing four missiles.
		They're inert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, now, you know, that's changing.
		One of the newscasts said unarmed, which would be apparently different than inert.
		Either way, I don't think we're getting the whole truth here.
		And it's beginning to get a little worrisome.
		Four days and counting now for that one truck, so bad news.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Hey, did they say anything about the men?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What men?
unidentified		The drivers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
		If they can't find the truck, I'm sure they can't find the drivers.
		Now, if they find the driver, they find the truck.
		Or at least they get to ask a lot of good questions, like, where's your truck?
unidentified		Okay, well, I just wanted your audience there to think about if the missiles are gone from the military's inventory and there was a missile shot at Flight 800, this is their method, or this is their way of hiding the fact that someone did take these missiles out of our aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but Flight 800 was a very long time ago.
		Well, I see what you're saying.
		You're trying to say the missiles were missing a long time ago, and they're just saying it now so that in some sort of inventory they can account for the missing, but not relate it to Flight 800.
		I finally see what you're talking about there.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		This is Kenny coming from Tulalap, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I was curious, whatever happened with that guy flying the airplane into Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends on whether you believe it was real or not.
unidentified		It sounded pretty real to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's probably dead as a doornail, I guess, because he got shot down.
unidentified		You haven't heard anything about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or he's 32 levels underneath Area 51 with lots of needles and tubes and bottles hanging over them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they're sweating him.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, really, what I'm saying is, who knows?
unidentified		I just thought maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not like you can call up an Area 51 information line and ask.
unidentified		Yeah, I thought maybe his girlfriend had, you know, maybe gotten.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I begged her to call me or fax me, but she has not done so yet.
unidentified		Hmm.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So maybe they've got her, too.
unidentified		You never know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She said, last I heard from her, she was headed up there.
		And I think that it's generally considered poor form to just show up at Area 51.
		So, you know, I don't know.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call, sir.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yes, this is Jeff from Fargo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fargo, North Dakota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really, Fargo?
unidentified		You bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's it going?
unidentified		Not too bad.
		The floodwaters are receding, so we didn't get hit too hard.
		Not as bad as Grand Forks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My affiliate in Grand Forks, indeed, I found out, was abandoned.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And OES.
unidentified		I heard they evacuated the city, so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About three-quarters of it was underwater.
unidentified		Okay.
		All right.
		That sounds about right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And things are okay there, though.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, we're doing fine here.
		We had an accurate weather prediction here.
		They had an inaccurate one in Grand Forks, and that's what screwed everything up.
		So for water levels, flood levels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, they did not plan to build the sandbag thing high enough.
unidentified		Right, the National Weather Service gave them the wrong flood crest.
		Boy.
		Yep.
		Well, I wanted to say something about the missiles tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, real quick.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		You know, these missiles that are missing, I don't think the Air Force has any that can be fired from the shoulder, like what probably took down 800 if that happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You know, they would have to be fired from an aircraft, and it seems to me if you're a terrorist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but you could adapt anything to anything, really.
		I think these are air-to-ground.
		I'm not really sure about that.
		Air-to-ground is what I think they really are.
unidentified		Anyhow, we're going to break here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we will be right back.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this somewhere in time.
		I came across this young man sewing on the fiddle and playing it hot.
		And the devil jumped up on a hickor stump and said, boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
		And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 24th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's my Dreamland theme to remind me to remind you that this Sunday on Dreamland, it's the best-selling author, Brad Steiger.
		You're not going to want to miss that.
		Brad Steiger, this weekend's Dreamland, 7 to 10 o'clock Pacific time, heard at other times across the country.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, turn off your radio, please.
unidentified		I have a question.
		All right.
		The first lady that came on earlier on the air, what was she talking about?
		What was all the internet?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure what you're referring to.
unidentified		Okay, I guess you forgot or just been a while ago.
unidentified		About those missiles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm down here in San Diego, and I happen to see about three or four trucks, and saw at least one truck with a missile on it right off of Highway 5.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've seen them with missiles too, big canvas-covered trucks, those kinds of things, and convoys.
unidentified		i didn't have cameras on it is just an open open missile Open, yeah, it was open out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't think they would do that.
		You know, that would scare people.
		You're going down the road, and there's a missile.
unidentified		Well, they're sitting on the side of the road, and the man was stuck in the trucks, and I just had to solve it.
unidentified		I don't know if anybody around here has seen it, but...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we'll ask.
		Maybe somebody else saw it.
		I have seen very suspicious vehicles, but they don't mark them.
		I mean, it doesn't say nuclear bomb on board or anything like that on the side.
		But I've certainly seen heavily armed convoys.
		And everybody thinks they know how we do everything.
		I personally don't think that the government tells us exactly how they transport things.
		And I imagine there are many ways they do it.
		By aircraft, by land, by sea.
		I'm sure there are many ways.
		So you never know.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Been trying to get a hold of you for a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you now?
unidentified		Yeah, this is Mike from Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two Las Vegas calls in a row.
unidentified		Ba-boom.
		Ba-boom.
		Yeah, I just want to comment.
		Great shows.
		You guys have been having some great shows lately, and we listen to them and try to analyze and stuff.
		But what is really funny is try to tell somebody that don't listen to your show what you're talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't even explain it.
		I can't explain it.
		It's like tonight, for example, is a good example.
		I mean, we've talked of many things and had fun.
		But what is it?
		You can't quite put your finger on it.
		It's just sort of wild anarchy on the radio.
		That's all.
unidentified		No, I know.
		It's just, you know, it makes you think and stuff, and it opens up different views of stuff, which is really nice.
		But what I'm talking about, like, you go home, you try to talk to somebody that don't work at nights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And about what you're hearing and stuff.
unidentified		But what was really funny and was really great is when this stuff starts coming around, like the Hoagland thing and all that stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		You know, so you know, it's hit and misses like everything else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		So have a great, great, great rest of the show, Art.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		Yeah, this is just a mishmash of stuff.
		All right.
		No great magic formula here.
		Sometimes very dramatic things happen.
		Sometimes funny things happen.
		Sometimes weird things happen.
		But usually night to night, not the same thing happens.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Well, good morning.
unidentified		I appreciate your program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And I think I'm going to give up reading Stephen King's novels because some of the strangest things are talked about on your program.
		You mentioned a little while ago about what if the bombs that were on this truck had been really loaded and they were going someplace and they only thought they were unloaded or something like that.
		That actually happened one time during the war.
		I worked at the Naval Ammunition Depot and there was four of us on the night shift and all of a sudden there was brass all over the place and their faces were gray and they were running around and looking at each other scared and I thought, well gee, what's going on?
		But we didn't dare ask because it was such a naval ammunition depot and you know you didn't ask anything about anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		You kept your mouth shut.
unidentified		And so finally it turned out that two trains had left someplace in the east and one was going into Nevada for breakdown and overhaul and the other was going to the South Pacific and they were loading this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, how does a train go to the South Pacific?
unidentified		Well it was a naval ammunition depot on the water where it would go over by ship.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh I see.
unidentified		Good.
		So the other one had come to our place and they were loading it and there was a they put it in like a big net you know and swing it over and go down into the hold of the ship boxes.
		Yes.
		And something broke and this big load of ammunition fell down into the hold of the ship.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's bad.
unidentified		Oh it was terrible I guess you know that scared everybody half to death.
		Anyway, it turned out that the breakdown and overhaul train had been set to this area where it was supposed to go on board a ship and the real one had gone to Nevada, and everybody saying how terrible it would have been if those soldiers or sailors, or wherever this was going, had received the bad ammunition.
		And I thought well gee, it would be even more terrible if it had gone to the breakdown and overhaul the real ones.
		You know, somebody had accidentally opened one of these things to find out what was going on.
		Kaboom.
		Yeah well anyway sometimes weird thoughts go through your head and it can actually happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well look I think this whole thing about missing stolen weapons is not a surprise.
		We have so many of them.
		The Russians have so many of them.
		I speak now not only of nuclear devices but of conventional weapons and missiles and you name it.
		We have stockpiles.
		We have chemical weapons that are leaking.
		They've been around so long.
		So these things are going to happen.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		Go oh no, I guess I didn't press it right.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air, I think.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		My name is Laura and I'm calling from Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Laura.
unidentified		And I was just calling in regards to your question about the nuclear weapon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you had your own personal nuke.
unidentified		No, I don't have my own personal nuke.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I said if.
unidentified		If.
unidentified		Well, actually, I was calling because I like your show, and it really makes people think, and I think that's something we don't do enough of.
Earning Respect Through Force? 00:15:47
unidentified		But you're asking a hypothetical question that nobody can truly answer.
		First of all, if we were silly enough to believe that we could get anything, we're wrong.
		Whenever you use force to try to demand something of somebody, sooner or later, they rise up against you.
		You only get respect by earning respect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I know, but a nuclear weapon earns you a lot of respect.
		I mean, look at Russia right now.
		They are a total nothing of a country.
		They're broke.
		They're poor.
		They're nearly starving.
		Their industrial base is decimated.
		And yet we respect them.
		Why?
		Because they have the ability to wipe us out.
unidentified		Yes, they do, but that's what I'm saying.
		Eventually, I mean, if you want to get down to end-of-world politics and things like that, that's the way things are going to end because they are being oppressed.
		It's your little third world countries that are going to get that, and they think that they're going to get the respect like the United States has demanded of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're absolutely correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If they get nuclear weapons, they will be respected, believe me.
unidentified		Okay, then let me ask you another hypothetical.
		If we respect Russians so much and everything, their country because they have nuclear war capabilities, then why are we not giving them food?
		Why are we not supporting them?
		Why are we not going in?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where have you been?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are.
unidentified		We are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've been loaning them a lot of money.
		We've been supporting Yeltsin.
		We've been doing all kinds of things that we would not do if they did not have nuclear weapons.
unidentified		But we have done those for other countries that don't have nuclear weapons either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not to the degree that we pay attention.
		We have big summits.
		Believe me, we would not be going to have big summits between Clinton and Yeltsin.
unidentified		I guess it comes down to we're little people too.
unidentified		Okay, if I had a nuclear weapon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's my question.
unidentified		And I threatened somebody to try to achieve something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		First of all, I feel like if, like your one caller said that he'd ask what's really going on as far as the UFOs and things like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I think the government would lie further, as they already have been.
unidentified		That's my personal opinion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then so, yeah, sure.
		What are you going to do then?
		Blow them up?
unidentified		No, but then what are they going to turn around and do?
		They're going to feed you whatever it takes to appease you, you know, and then they're going to say you're crazy and lock you up.
		That's their way of dealing with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At the very least, absolutely.
unidentified		That's their way of dealing with things.
		And like I said, the only way you can get respect is to earn respect.
		And I don't think we've learned anything from history if we keep asking these kinds of questions.
		Because these are the things that he's eventually...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, look, ideally, of course, you're correct.
		And respect is earned in a very different way than possessing a nuclear weapon.
		But in the real world, I'm right.
unidentified		Well, in a real world, there would be no right or wrong.
unidentified		Well, we'd all agree to disagree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so if you had a nuclear weapon, you would do nothing with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would turn it back to the authorities.
unidentified		If there was anything that I could do with it, it would be try to get rid of them.
unidentified		In other words, I'll say, hey, I'll get rid of mine if you get rid of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how would you do that?
		Would you bury it?
		Then you'd have to be afraid somebody else would dig it up with intentions that wouldn't be so good.
unidentified		But, I mean, you've got all your missile silos and things like that that have had the nuclear weapons and stuff that have been shut down and closed.
		You know what I mean?
		Abandoned?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some of them, yes.
unidentified		What happened to all those?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, some people have purchased silos and turned them into underground homes.
unidentified		I understand that I've seen that, but what I'm talking about is what happened to the nuclear weapons that were in them prior to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we still have a lot of those.
		We have, for the public, crushed some of them publicly.
		I'm sure you've seen it.
		Haven't you seen the crushers at work?
		These treaties that we've signed?
		However, we have, believe me, a substantial pile of nuclear weapons.
		And anybody who says that there is not respect generated by the possession of nuclear weapons does not know what they're talking about.
		Now, in an ideal world, yeah, that's not the way you would earn respect.
		In the real world, if you've got a nuclear weapon, you definitely get respect.
		Trust me.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Greg out in Mesa, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Greg.
unidentified		Hey, I wanted to talk to you about Richard Hoagland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
peter gorman ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's been, the last couple times he's been on your show, he's talked about the Secret Society and a few things.
peter gorman ▲ ● ▼		I noticed at the first show, he seemed to think it was a benevolent organization.
unidentified		And on the second show...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I've never heard him say that.
unidentified		Why?
unidentified		Well, he never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Withholding information drives Mr. Hoagland nuts, and he's never considered that to be benevolent.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I tell you what I heard on a break.
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, somebody faxed me.
		They said on the last break at KFYI, the local news advertised that they are going to show the footage that Richard Hoagland talked about shot from the space shuttle.
		They asked the question, are these the ships seen over Phoenix?
		The film is going to be shown tonight at 10 p.m. on Channel 3.
		Did you hear that?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		I've been here about it all day.
		I was the other day as I was calling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And also, I've got P.S. I asked the people at Old Navy clothing stores what the headsets were for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the girl at the counter, they were all girls, said we listened to Art Bell with them.
unidentified		Sounds like a fairy pat answer, doesn't it?
unidentified		Well, here's the other thing.
peter gorman ▲ ● ▼		Now, you might think back to that debate you had with Edgar Mitchell and Richard Hoagland.
unidentified		Richard Hoagland.
peter gorman ▲ ● ▼		Now, when you talked to Edgar Mitchell, he was a bit cagey about things, but when you got him on the debate thing, he seemed to open up, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
peter gorman ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's more involved here than just his oath as an officer of the Air Force and everything.
peter gorman ▲ ● ▼		According to Richard Noon's book, The Ultimate Disaster.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
peter gorman ▲ ● ▼		He lists a whole list of people, famous Americans who are members of the name of a Trilateral Commission.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Council on Foreign Relations.
unidentified		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy Scouts of America.
unidentified		No, the Illuminati.
		The Masons.
		Freemasons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Masons, of course, the Masons.
unidentified		Edgar Mitchell is on with.
unidentified		He's one of the Freemasons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Edgar is?
unidentified		Edgar Mitchell.
		If you've got the book, you might want to look it up.
		Edgar Mitchell is a Freemason.
		That's his Richard Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What degree?
unidentified		He doesn't say.
unidentified		Oh, that's really high then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
		I just want to let you know that there might be more involved there.
		I might want to bring him back on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All righty, thank you.
		I'm sure you've heard this before.
		Well, I'm not sure I wouldn't read it, but somebody just sent it again, so I thought I would.
		Imagine this.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the Psychiatric Hotline.
		If you are obsessive-compulsive, please press one repeatedly.
		If you are codependent, please ask someone to press number two.
		If you have multiple personalities, please press three, four, five, and six.
		If you are paranoid delusional, we know who you are and what you want.
		Just stay on the line so we can trace the call.
		If you're schizophrenic, listen carefully and a little voice will tell you which number to press.
		And if you're manic depressive, it doesn't matter which number you press.
		Nobody will answer.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
		Good.
		I'm so glad I got on there.
		Let me turn the radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, do that.
unidentified		Light my cigarette.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have to have a cigarette to be on the phone.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have to have a cigarette to be on the phone?
unidentified		Oh, to talk to you, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How politically incorrect is this?
unidentified		This is Curtis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Curtis.
unidentified		Nuclear bomb.
		That's a shame if you think about how deep we were all talking.
		I get nervous on the phone.
		Talking last night, we were all talking really deep about what he was about creating things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And all of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One of the things you could create would be a completely constructed nuclear bomb with weapons-grade plutonium in place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Think about that.
unidentified		I wouldn't have it.
		Wouldn't allow it.
		It would be negative energy, negative, meaning negative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Energy, sir, is just energy.
		And manipulation of molecules is simply that.
		It could be used for good or evil like anything else.
unidentified		And the nuclear bomb is evil, and I wouldn't ever have one.
unidentified		I wouldn't allow myself to be in a position to have a nuclear bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		And it's a shame.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So even if I gave you one, you wouldn't take it.
unidentified		Never.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never?
unidentified		A bunch of rats created those things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rats created them?
		Well, you know what, though?
		That may not be true.
		I mean, you have heard of the mad theory, right?
		Mutual assured destruction.
		You know what that is, right?
unidentified		Mutual assured disruption.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, destruction.
unidentified		Oh, destruction.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mutual assured destruction.
		That means that there has been no war because both sides have nuclear stockpiles that would literally destroy the earth.
		So you should get down on your knees and say thank you, nuclear bombs.
		You have prevented war.
unidentified		Well, I tell you what, though.
		It's we shouldn't have them.
		We really shouldn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but then we'd have more efficient, less world-ending ways of killing each other, and we'd be doing it on a more regular basis.
		Don't you think?
		Yes.
unidentified		That's true.
		Yeah, you're right.
		You always hit the nail on the head, I tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's not my theory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mutual assured destruction is what has prevented war since the bombs were dropped on Japan, and we realized how truly horrible they were.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified		I tell you what, when I listen to your show, it makes me crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It makes me crazy to do it, but I do enjoy it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Minneapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to get into that phone and really project.
unidentified		Okay, sorry.
unidentified		I just wanted, I listened to that guy who supposedly flew through Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		He was shot down, actually.
		Yes.
unidentified		Did you hear more about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Okay, I haven't either.
unidentified		I just want to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, if you get a good number I can call, like at Area 51, you know, an information center, I'll be sure and let me know.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'll call him up.
		As far as I know, there's no number.
		You can call it Area 51 and ask questions, you know?
unidentified		Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to be flying the saucers tonight, or is it tomorrow night?
unidentified		Yeah, but his girlfriend didn't get back in touch with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, well, the last we heard, she was headed up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they probably grabbed her and took her down to level 34.
unidentified		And that's the last we'll see.
		Yep.
		Oh, well, okay.
		Thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Gorgon in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gorgon?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your name is Gorgon?
unidentified		Well, of course tonight it will be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, your parents, I actually did not name you Gorgon.
unidentified		No, it's a handle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		That's good.
unidentified		I mean, it would be so cruel.
unidentified		Especially trying to spell it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, in school, anybody named Gorgon is...
unidentified		It wouldn't make it.
		Second grade.
		Right.
		Hey, well, you know, the airplane guy flies into Area 51?
		Yeah.
		You know, if you hear while he's talking, I'm sure, I'm really surprised you haven't picked that up with your great ears.
		In the background, you can hear an airplane.
		And when he says he's going down in elevation or he's pushing the airplane, you can hear the acceleration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you bought it.
unidentified		Come on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bought it or not?
unidentified		Hard to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you're arguing in favor of its legitimacy.
unidentified		I think I bought it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's very sad because that means he's a debtor than a doornail, railgunned out of the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be horrible.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		We take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what the biggest secret in talk radio today is?
		It is why when the most interesting parts of the program come on, the signal fades out.
		And yet, when the commercials come on, the station comes through clear as a bell.
		You know what I mean, right?
		That's the biggest secret in talk radio, and I have the answer.
		But I'm not allowed to give it.
		I just thought I'd let you know that I know the answer.
		Naturally, I can't divulge it, but I do know that secret.
		I mean, I have achieved that level to where they have actually now told me that.
		Mr. Bell, if I had a nuclear weapon in all the codes and could threaten to use it, here's what I'd demand.
		Nothing big at first.
		I want, one, an MMX computer system with 64 megabytes of RAM, top of the line, continuously upgradable, unlimited access to software on demand, no charge.
		That's one.
		Two, that all politicians who cannot pass a lie detector test on campaign promises be made to appear for one whole month in the Canadian House of Commons or the American Congress in a diaper with a rattle in one hand and a baby soother in the other, and who are not allowed to say anything other than mama, goo-goo, and dad.
		And additionally, that all talk show hosts be locked into a soundproof room once a year into which an unending round of commercials they favor are played back continuously.
		The last ones left standing after three days would be declared the winners, if any.
		Failing all of that, I would threaten to detonate the nuclear device under my neighbor's mutt as he spread-eagled himself to leave lumps behind that would knock a bear off a gut wagon.
		There you are from Lotus Land North, Bob.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
		Going once.
		Going twice, gone.
		First time caller line, you would have been on the air, but you're a dial-tone wildcard line.
Soul Travel Vision 00:11:58
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Dave in Bakersfield.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Hey, do you ever try soul travel yet that you were talking about?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No guts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I may yet try it, though.
unidentified		On that 8-10 airplane, I already had a vision before they found it that it was on New York Mountain?
unidentified		Yeah, I had a Mew.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, the trouble.
		See, the trouble with this is, if you had called up before they found the plane and you'd said, I had a vision art, it's located at New York Mountain.
		Then we would have registered that, and you would now be heroically declared to be a psychic, doing better than even Ed Dames and his whole group of remote viewers.
		But you have called after they've located the pieces, sir.
		That's not as convincing.
unidentified		Yeah.
		You know the difference between remote viewing and soul travel?
		Is that basically the same thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think it's about the same thing, yeah.
unidentified		I see.
unidentified		Because when I go to sleep and then I wake up, like they told you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I've been doing this for quite some time.
		And I see these visions and stuff.
		It's like a 3D.
		And when I look, I see a picture of like the pilot.
		I'm sitting right next to the pilot.
		And then on the outside of the other screen, I'm like, I can see the trees above and stuff.
		And then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's really incredible.
		But again, for all your colorful description of how it is, you're calling us after the fact.
		And visions to be important and to verify you as a professional psychic have got to be recorded before the event.
		Just small advice from me.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art Belf.
unidentified		This is Keith in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Keith.
unidentified		Hi, I just emailed you a little while ago and yesterday about an Area 51 civilian surveillance mission.
unidentified		Did you get that email?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
unidentified		Okay, here's my plan.
unidentified		During the summer, I turned 21, and a friend of mine also turns 21.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And we're going to head down to Reno, Nevada to do some gambling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you the one who was talking about the robotic aircraft?
unidentified		Yes, a radio-controlled aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I did get that.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		What do you think of the idea?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they'd shoot it down.
unidentified		You think they'd shoot it down?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do indeed.
unidentified		How far do you think you could get into it before you shoot it down?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not very far at all.
unidentified		Not very far?
		No.
		You know how big aircrafts are, only about three feet big.
		You think a missile could track that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think they've got all kinds of things that could track that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They'd shoot it down, and you'd be out a very expensive robotic airplane.
unidentified		Well, our planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to try it, go ahead and try it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who am I to tell you what to do?
unidentified		Can I give out the URL to people so they can read about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean you put this on a webpage?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be kidding.
unidentified		No, I'm dead serious.
		Our plan is to do it whether or not we can get any help from other people.
		We're going to try it anyway.
		All right.
		On the perimeter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it an easy URL?
unidentified		It's fairly easy.
unidentified		It's numbers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay, it's HTTP colon slash flash 128 period 95 period 171 period two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		128 What?
unidentified		128.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Period 95.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Period 171.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Period two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Period two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's where your entire plan is laid out, huh?
unidentified		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think you're headed for trouble, but there you go.
		We'll let everybody take a look and see what they think.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Something's wrong with that line.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, Mr. Bill, I like you.
unidentified		I'd like to think you're on the up and up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, you're going to have to speak up.
unidentified		I like you, Mr. Bell.
		I'd like to think you're on the up and up.
		You sound like a genuine guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But I can't trust you with enough information.
unidentified		All I did was relay a message.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, you're the same guy.
		One call per show.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		You know, I like what I would do with the nuclear weapons if I had one is I think I'd give one to Charlie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One to Charlie.
unidentified		Yeah, I hadn't heard from him for quite a while.
unidentified		I'd give him something to talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
unidentified		And maybe you down there and prompt to guard a guard against the rabbits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I would never, ever use a nuclear weapon against rabbits.
		That's just disgusting.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		KQMS, right in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Morning.
unidentified		What if you shot a nuclear bomb at the sun?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would happen?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be like spitting in the wind.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		The sun is an ongoing thermonuclear explosion controlled.
		Actually, it's a thermonuclear fission ongoing, and it would just go, thank you very much.
		That was nice.
		Send more.
unidentified		I have no idea what I would do with a nuclear bomb.
		Although I could put one of those stickers on my door, this house protected by Smith and Wesson.
		Protected by big fat nukes.
		Don't rob me.
		You know, you know what next month is?
		It's been a year since I've smoked cigarettes.
		You know why I quit smoking cigarettes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
unidentified		Because goddesses don't smoke.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You declared yourself to be a goddess, didn't you?
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		You know why else I quit?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Because smoking hurts your spirit.
unidentified		It really does, too, if you think about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
unidentified		Well, think about this.
		The reason that smoking really irritates you is that you really like you're into health.
		And you know, and you're also a perfectionist, you cannot achieve optimal health while you're smoking, and that irritates you.
		Uh-huh.
		So.
		Well.
		It does.
		It hurts your spirit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That may be true, or may not be true.
		I mean, it may depend on the individual.
		For some people, smoking may lift their spirit.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
		I loved it.
		Let's see.
		I did.
		I turned smoking into an art form.
		I mean, I swear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't swear.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even at this time of night.
unidentified		Well, speaking of which, use the word nefarious.
		I love that word.
		But, you know, I love the word obfusticate because it sounds like you're swearing, but you're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of words like that.
unidentified		I love them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to straight overheads out there.
unidentified		I look for those.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you?
unidentified		Yeah, and then when I read the dictionary, hey, you know, I really like that guy last night.
		You know, and I thought he talked pretty fast, too.
		But you see, I have this really weird psychic ability.
		I can learn stuff by osmosis.
		So if I just lay back and relax and let their words go in my ears, I get visions, and I can visualize what they're saying, and I make it part of my whole body, what they're saying.
		Like, that's how I understand Richard Hoagland.
		And you'd think, well, so what, Danelle?
		I was like, I can't explain it back to you, but I can actually take action and make decisions on this information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Immersing oneself totally into Richard Hoagland for X number of hours on end could cause all sorts of spastic reactions.
unidentified		Yeah, I didn't get to the point.
		Hey, next time when you fly an airplane, bring a can of YSOL.
		You know, that's what I'm going to do.
		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am going to speak to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're going to spray people?
unidentified		I'll spray the people.
		I'll spray the seats.
		I'll spray when I go in the bathroom, which I never do.
		Maybe to check my hair or something like that.
		Those are disgusting.
		I'll spray in there.
		Everything I touch, I'll spray.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, try traveling to Asia or Europe without going to the bathroom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't work.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
		Oh, that's right.
		Well, that's it.
		I'm not going there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, thanks for the call.
		That doesn't work.
		I mean, you're on an airplane for anywhere from 8 to 15.
		You know, the last Asian trip I met?
		15 hours in the air.
		15 hours.
		Do you know what you feel like after 15 hours in the air?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Tootie in Northern California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello.
unidentified		Hi.
trisha mcgill ▲ ● ▼		What were you saying to Curtis about we should bless nuclear weapon in the world?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bow down and thank them.
unidentified		For what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For not having war.
unidentified		Since when?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, since we dropped the bombs on Japan, more or less.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we have not had a nuclear war.
unidentified		Oh, we haven't had a nuclear war.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		Oh, I see.
		Okay, so you didn't.
trisha mcgill ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, I didn't understand you saying that because I heard you to say that we haven't had war.
trisha mcgill ▲ ● ▼		No, you know, the Vietnam War and the Gulf War and the Korean War must have been virtual delusions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, they were real.
unidentified		Yeah, they were real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was there for one of them, I know.
unidentified		They were horribly real.
trisha mcgill ▲ ● ▼		I would like to say about the man who was on last night, the doctor who was on last night, I had a glimpse of reality while he was speaking, and it was that he was describing the New World Order.
trisha mcgill ▲ ● ▼		Exactly what is meant by when it is said and first used recently by George Bush.
unidentified		Oh, the New World Order.
unidentified		So now we know what it really is going to look like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I wonder if George Bush is sorry he ever said that.
unidentified		I don't think so.
		No?
		Why would he be sorry about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because people have spent so much time on it since he uttered those words.
trisha mcgill ▲ ● ▼		Well, he wasn't, of course, the first person to coin those words.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't think that he meant the kind of New World Order that you think is coming.
unidentified		What do you think he meant?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think he meant a world in which nation disputes would not be settled with the kind of wars you just talked about any longer, when there would be more order in the world generally, where people would be fed as they are not now, where...
unidentified		A kinder and gentler world, like a kinder and gentler nation that you're pontificating about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think that's what he meant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you were to ask him, I bet he would say that.
unidentified		I'll bet he would, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, no, I.
unidentified		I bet he wouldn't mean it, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you always never knew about George Bush.
unidentified		Oh, I did.
		I did.
		Always knew about him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was.
		I liked him in the beginning, like everybody else.
		I mean, he.
unidentified		Oh, no, I'm sorry.
unidentified		Not everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Most people liked him.
		I mean, his approval rating after the Gulf War was, what, 91%.
		So it's fair to say most people liked him at one point.
		And then he sort of went straight downhill.
		Began to equivocate.
		Began to compromise.
		Began to look weak.
unidentified		Right?
trisha mcgill ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't agree, but I was just part of that, you know, elite 9%.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		Well, I bow down to you.
		Well, good night.
		Thank you.
		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Should have asked her what she'd do if she had a nuke.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		International line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good night.
		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Going, going, gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		KPNW country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, in Eugene, Oregon.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, turn your radio off that place.
Rick Waves at a Diplomat 00:05:55
unidentified		That's good.
unidentified		Hey, how many did you publish from the first print?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About 20,000.
unidentified		Is that all?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're wishing they'd done more.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Well, I would have figured you would have gone about a quarter of a million.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you don't start out that way.
		They had no way of knowing that it would go in two weeks.
		I mean, that's ridiculous.
		It just went whoosh.
unidentified		Hey, you're popular.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope the book is popular, and I hope it's read.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you get one?
unidentified		Not yet, no.
unidentified		I got your first book, but I haven't had time to get the other one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now you have to wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mid-May.
unidentified		Yeah, right.
		Hey, I got a Morse key here.
		It's a VibroFlex.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		You ever heard of them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
unidentified		I'd like to send it to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've got an electronic gear.
unidentified		Well, this belonged to my father, it's about...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was the one with weights on it, right?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I've got a new modern cure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the offer, but actually, the truth be known, sir, I don't like code.
unidentified		Well, I know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really, I hate it.
		I don't even know why I have this gear.
		You know, I wonder if I could even still use it.
unidentified		I'm pretty good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I used to be pretty good at CW.
		It just came so naturally to me, you know?
		Let me see here.
unidentified		Let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, I can't even get it right.
		Hold on, let me turn up the volume here.
		Where's the speaker?
unidentified		Oh, here we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's my code.
unidentified		My call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		CW.
unidentified		See?
		Well, I just remember, you know, about 45, 50 years ago, my dad was doing key all the time.
		And he was one of the early hams in the Los Angeles area.
		It was a lot of fun to listen to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is not.
		It's horrible to listen to.
		I appreciate your call, but it's horrible.
		It's something that I've always, it's come very easily to me, but I just don't like it.
		It is a slow, out-moded form of communication.
		That's going to rankle a lot of people, I know.
		But that's the way I feel about it.
		I'm a talker.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes, good morning, Art.
		Rick from Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Rick.
unidentified		You need to listen to the last few minutes of your show, the international call that you just missed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		There was an operator on there trying to get in touch with you and to get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I said several things.
		I know at the very end I heard somebody on there, but I can only wait on a line so long.
		You know, if somebody doesn't say something, then I move on.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		I just felt bad for that poor guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I feel it's ringing again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You want me to answer it?
unidentified		Yeah, sure, go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here, let's conference you guys.
		On the international line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good day to you.
unidentified		Are you down in Australia?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, we've got a problem here because I can't.
		This is not conferencing right.
		Wait a minute.
		Let me put everybody on hold here.
		Let me try doing this.
		Are you there?
unidentified		Yeah, I'm here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're there.
		All right.
		Now, let me see if the other guy's here.
		Hello there.
		Are you there?
unidentified		I am here, and I was here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now let's.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now, first of all, on the international line, where are you?
unidentified		Get them at British Columbia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And on the West of the Rockies line, where are you?
unidentified		Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		See?
unidentified		Positions?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you guys have to say to each other?
unidentified		Well, I was going to do a bomb one, but I don't want to bring that up because I want to know everyone else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would you do with a bomb?
unidentified		I'd keep it with me at all times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that'd be important.
unidentified		I'd like to take mine and wave it against that arrogant Chinese diplomat that said Los Angeles has something to worry about if we don't keep our hands off of Taiwan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you would threaten the Chinese?
unidentified		Just to show them, hey, knock it off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That traditionally has not brought a very good response from the Chinese.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't respond well to threats.
unidentified		No, I think you're better off just keeping it.
		What are the odds of two bombs going off at the same time near you?
		Well, actually, I don't really want to do that, but I want them to know that, geez, you know, come on.
		You know, how can you possibly say something like that and think you can get away with it without some backlash?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
unidentified		That really angered me.
unidentified		Could I sue the Chinese government for the emotional trauma that I go through once in a while, dreaming about the Chinese blowing up Los Angeles?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a very...
		Our society is full of litigation, and I don't see why you couldn't try it.
		The thing is, it would cost you a lot of money.
		And I don't think even if you got a judgment, you might, that the Chinese would be inclined to pay.
		I suppose you could do it just, you know, on moral, ethical grounds, something like that.
unidentified		Hey, is this a first, putting two people on at the same time like this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
unidentified		No, I mean in terms of allowing.
unidentified		I mean, you gave me the option.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what, though, we can do a first.
		It's certainly not a first.
		I mean, I can put, you know, like five people on if I wanted to.
		And I have actually done that.
		But this will be a first.
		I'm going to allow you both to have the honors.
unidentified		Excellent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so do it one at a time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Los Angeles first, and then Canada.
unidentified		And I say to myself, what a wonderful world.
		From this point to that point and all points beyond.
		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now from Canada.
Double-Barreled Goodnight 00:00:18
unidentified		From this point to that point and all points beyond.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's it, folks.
		There it is.
		A double-barreled good night.
		And I'll finish it off myself.
		From the high desert, it's been fun.
		Don't forget, tomorrow night, Robert Ghost Wolf.

Chapters

00:00:18 Wtam's Worry Over Inert Weapons
00:09:21 Two Teenage Killers
00:12:04 Extraterrestrial Highway Mystery
00:27:13 Red Ball Mystery
00:32:53 Give Ticket to Monterey Apocalypse
00:38:51 Stealing Weapons, Russian Concerns
00:42:49 40-Second Fuse Drama
00:48:25 Wayne Green's Wind Gust Story
00:58:31 A Lot of Trouble
01:13:52 Ouija Boards and RNA Technology
01:17:28 Call Signs and Updates
01:29:13 Heavily Escorted Nuclear Transport
01:33:01 Why Colloidal Silver?
01:48:25 Keeping Criminals Caged
01:50:33 Missiles And Misunderstandings
02:05:55 Earning Respect Through Force?
02:21:28 Soul Travel Vision
02:33:11 Rick Waves at a Diplomat
02:38:52 Double-Barreled Goodnight