Art Bell’s Coast to Coast AM open lines dive into cloning ethics with Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald, a Loyola geneticist and Jesuit priest, debating whether DNA manipulation creates life or merely replicates it, while Gulf War vet Craig reveals missing records and nerve agent warnings tied to $6B in unreleased data. Callers speculate on chupacabras (captured near San Antonio in 1996), deformed animals like Spain’s six-legged sheep, and Israel’s Armageddon-themed tourist site, linking them to biological weapons or divine "quickening." A comet sighting—described as a two-tailed cobra—fuels cosmic theories, while Bell promotes financial survival tips, HAARP conspiracy jokes, and his upcoming March 6 show with Ed Dames and Kathy Kramer. The episode blends fringe science, military cover-ups, and apocalyptic musings into a chaotic critique of modernity’s ethical and existential risks. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening and good morning across all these many prolific time zones stretching all the way from the Asian and Hawaiian Island chains in the west, across this great land to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north to the Pole worldwide on the ever-growing internet.
You know, it doubles the internet about every three or four months.
This is Coast to Coast A.M., and I'm Mark Bell, and we're going to do open lines all night long.
Tomorrow night, tomorrow night really is going to be interesting.
Now, it took me a long time and the help of friends like Michael Lindemann to find an appropriate guest on cloning.
I do believe that this cloning story, if true, and I have no reason to believe it is not, is the biggest news since the splitting of the atom.
That's a non-trivial statement.
But the problem was, who do you get to discuss it?
You want a person involved, obviously, in genetics.
But there are other aspects.
In other words, once you learn how scientifically, physically, it is accomplished and that it is appropriate to imagine that humans will be cloned scientifically, then you need to be able to talk about the other aspects of it.
For example, religious and ethical.
Lo and behold, I've located Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald at Loyola University here, Chicago, who is at the same time a geneticist, a Jesuit priest, and a bioethicist.
Now, that's a combination that you'd more easily hit the lottery than find that, but I did.
And so he'll be here tomorrow night, and we will ask him about all aspects of cloning.
You know, from every point of view, and he's uniquely qualified, I do believe, to discuss it.
So he'll be getting back from New York, from doing a TV show, I think, in New York.
But we've encouraged him to stay up late, and we'll find out what we can about cloning from somebody who really ought to know.
In the news, as they say, General Schwartzkopf, Norman Iraqi War Schwarzkopf, says he doubts that U.S. troops, apparently any U.S. troops, were ever exposed to Iraqi war gas.
He testified in front of the Senate yesterday.
That's remarkable.
And by the way, about two-thirds of the records that were supposed to be kept on this kind of exposure, well, they're missing.
If I don't hear from you, I'll have to assume it is.
A tragic loss.
If you're not dead, thanks for your reply.
I didn't answer him.
So, I'm not dead, damn it.
Now, I may have felt a little close to it a couple times, a week Ago or so when I had the flu, but somebody decided to write my death notice and distribute it widely across the internet.
These things go very quickly across the internet and they are recycled and recycled and recycled.
And now that I'm apparently alive, because people have noticed I do seem to be back on the radio, there are messages now circling around that it is not me, that it's some sort of electronic talking voice that Art Bell actually died.
So even faced with the apparent fact that I am here, those people that wrote my death a press release, it was very official looking, by the way, are now suggesting that I really am dead.
They refuse to accept the apparent reality of my presence.
Well, I am not dead.
All right, a follow-up on yesterday.
Now, later in the show, you might have missed it.
You might have missed it.
There was news that a chupacabra has been captured, a caught, near San Antonio, Texas.
Now, in order that the TV station not get inundated with calls, as it has been, well, I'll read you the facts I got.
I've got a contact in the newsroom there, very nice fellow named Derek.
Hello, Art.
Enjoyed talking with you earlier today.
Yes, I talked to Derek, and Derek is going to send me some video of this chupacabra.
And I will, of course, snap a still from it and put it on the website for you.
And that's on the way by next day.
You know me.
Anyway, he wrote the following, Art the Chupa story caused such a stir that I frankly would appreciate it if you didn't mention it, did not mention on the air what station it's from because our staff spent the whole day answering phones from radio stations all across the country.
So, when you get the photos, just use my name only, which I will, Eric.
Anyway, here's more info.
We talked with a rancher again today who says the photos were taken last November on his land near Patit.
That's P-O-T-E-E-T, which is south of San Antonio.
He says his ranch hands discovered the beast in a coyote trap with two others very much like it nearby jumping up and down.
The two that were free ran into the brush.
The ranch hand tried to free the creature, but it was snapping at him with its claws.
He says it had eyes on the top of its head that moved nearly 360 degrees and followed him as he tried to get close to it.
And also had a horn, a horn folks, protruding from its mouth.
He also says the others could jump high in the air, almost flying, in quotes.
The ranch hand says the creature let out a loud screech when he continued to try to free it.
Rather than risk his limbs, he backed off and visited the location three days later, then found it dead in the trap.
The ranch hand says that he also found two feet in diameter holes and tunnels around the area, which looked like the creatures had burrowed underground, much like a prairie dog.
I asked, what happened to the body?
And he said some men in suits took it away, and he claims it's either in Austin or Houston.
You should get the tape on Saturday.
He says, call me tomorrow if you want.
So, a very nice guy, Derek, is shipping off a tape to me, and I will snappy a still from that, and of course, get it up on the website for you.
But the word is, they've got the body of a chupacabra.
And they've got video of it.
And soon I will have video of it.
So make of that what you will.
I'm curious, very, very curious what it looks like.
Aren't the 6 o'clock news here in Nashville, WTN, of course, in Nashville on the CBS channel just showed a sheep with a complete leg growing out of the top of its head.
Oh, my God.
That was somewhere in Spain.
I didn't catch exactly where the leg had a joint, and it was just flopping around as the sheep ran around.
Now, I've got a picture of a sheep on my website with eight legs.
Now, I ask you, I ask you, this was in Spain, okay?
Is it not possible that the scientists that were doing the cloning experiments before they got this sheep that they'd been showing to the world, perhaps had a few experiments that did not work out, you know, quite the way they wanted them to.
Could that be my eight-legged sheep?
Bad as that was, the photograph of the eight-legs, yuck.
The prospect of a sheep with a leg growing out of the middle of its head is really gross.
Weather news.
Aloha, Art.
A few days ago, you heard from a guy on the big island of Hawaii talking about 100-mile-an-hour winds, actually 80, hitting Hilo and ripping off roofs.
Well, guess what?
It's all true.
Here is the newspaper article from Hilo Associated Press.
Hawaii County Civil Defense Administrator Harry Kim says he wouldn't be surprised if damage from Monday's windstorm tops a million dollars.
Wind gusts at times exceeded 100 miles per hour, according to forecasters.
Now, short of a hurricane, I said this the other night.
I'm saying it again.
Short of a hurricane, what the hell would do this?
Continuing with weather news, today in the southernmost town on the island, actually southernmost in the U.S., that's N-A-A-L-E-H-U, Hawaii, I will not pronounce that.
They had a pounding hail storm.
Read it again, jail storm.
So I'm not sure what's going on in Hawaii, but nothing good weather-wise.
And then also, news today on the Weather Channel that the jet stream apparently is coming down to, quoting them, very low levels.
The winds throughout Ohio, Pennsylvania, and part of Michigan have been absolutely incredible.
That's Mike in Michigan.
He says, maybe Ed Dames was right.
Now, I'm going to read you the following.
Oh, by the way, in the Yakima newspaper, there was an article on Mel's Hole entitled The Whole Truth, Question Mark.
Printed in the Yakima Herald Republic.
They interviewed me for that.
If you want to read it, we naturally have a link on our website right now.
So the Mel's Hole story.
Or would that be the story of the whole that Mel said he had?
All of that in the Accommod Herald Republic, and you'll see it on my website right now.
So from all over the world, you can jump up there and read that article.
It is www.artbell.com.
I received the following today.
Art, a quick note to confirm the existence of Mel Water's Hole.
A while back, my father-in-law told me a story about when he used to ride motorcycles years ago in the sagebrush around Ellensburg.
We were discussing off-road racing and how when they suddenly came upon unexpected obstacles at high speed, he told me about riding along and having to jump quickly over a hole that appeared in front of them, eight to ten feet wide, so deep he could not see the bottom.
The bottom couldn't be found by throwing rocks and listening for them to hit.
Our local newspaper reported the motor had taken over and barricaded the hole.
That's Lance in Yakima.
So there you've got it.
Or maybe it's my own story feeding back to me, but this sounds like it's older, so I don't know.
Maybe there was a Mel's hole.
I just don't know.
But the news certainly is weird.
There's yet another facts about a sheep with a leg coming out of its head.
That's horrible, isn't it?
Absolutely horrible.
And I wonder if that's just not a bit of the first few sheep they experimented upon that they didn't show us.
All right.
Radios.
One of my favorite topics.
I love radio.
It is so close to my heart that a lot of times when I get off the air after five hours here, I go on the air, I'm the ham operator, and I go on the air there.
Never say die, I guess, huh?
I'm really stuck on radio.
And one of the coolest radios, now I bet I had five calls last night.
One of the coolest radios ever made is the Beijing.
It has a crank on the side.
When CNN ran the stories on Beijing, they actually disassembled and took the crank mechanism out and showed it to you.
I don't know how many of you saw that.
It really is incredible.
It is patented because there is none other like it in the world.
Anyway, you crank the Beijing for one minute, and then on AM, FM, or eight bands of shortwave, it will play for 30 minutes, giving you some pretty doggone good audio, too.
I said AM, FM, and shortwave.
Now, obviously this radio has application for today's weird weather or tomorrow's weird weather.
If your power goes out, you've always got power with a Beijing if you can turn a crank.
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You promised us an update on the Kramer case, so where is it?
Well, now, here's somebody who's not been listening.
I gave you the update, and you weren't listening, were you?
I've got a show coming up March 6th that will clear it all up, if you listen.
Ed Dames sent a fax, and this gets pretty serious, saying that Taylor Kramer is dead, and I've already informed Kathy of that.
The specifics are going to be given to Kathy here on the program.
So Ed Dames and Kathy Kramer together March 6th.
And I'm looking forward to that.
And then there's some more stuff that may occur that night that I think you'll find interesting.
No doubt we'll keep Ed on.
Twist his arm and make him stay.
I just got this article from the Washington Post.
And I swear to you, this is true.
The title of the article is, Scientists Have a Hunch.
Let me do it straight.
Scientists have a hunch, intuition makes sense.
Now let's think about that.
Scientists have a hunch intuition makes sense.
Sub headline, Gut Feelings Linked to Wise Decision Making.
Rob Stein, Washington Post, Friday, Feb 28, 1997.
Neuroscientists yesterday reported compelling new evidence that intuition plays a crucial role in helping people make sensible decisions and clues to how gut feelings work in our brain.
An unusual experiment that compared normal people to those with a very specific type of brain damage as they gambled with cards identified, apparently, A part of the brain that appears necessary for intuition to work.
Now, what does that mean?
Does that mean that those people who don't have intuition are brain damaged?
It sounds that way.
Anyway, it's a long article, and you can read it at the Washington Post website or, you know, get a copy of the Washington Post.
Well, you never really know, but I mean, even if it was true, it would be kind of neat to go up there and kind of spy in the military with some night vision goggles and, you know, kind of, you know, do our own thing.
There are some who have used that phrase after his facts of yesterday.
He has leased away his rights, let's put it that way.
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But I was going to say, if it did turn out to be true, another thing, an idea I came up with was to maybe build some tunnels and, you know, intersect the hole, so to speak.
Kind of like a...
In trouble, right?
You got it.
Hey, you have a good one and keep up the good work.
It was really wishful thinking on somebody's part.
unidentified
Well, I was concerned, and I was hoping that I was sitting here one night listening, and I thought, when this melting occurred, I thought, I wonder if the side screens are bugged in some way.
I want to talk a little bit about the whole Gulf War syndrome thing.
I'm just curious, why would it be that they would cover up something so I mean that there's so much documentation, there's so much information, and there are so many people that are sick, and it's obviously communicable.
Why would they be covering it up instead of money?
Your mention of virus is exactly what I'm afraid of.
If they're covering it up and they're not letting the people know and it is not money, the only other reason that I can think of besides liability is something was released that they don't want to let the public know because it's too late.
It seemed to remind me of something that was, well, it's been pretty much made obsolete by integrated circuits, but back in the 70s when we first started studying electronics, they had something called a magnetic amplifier.
And what this does is it's a broadband amplifier that passes sinusoidal waves, but it blocks and attenuates sharp pulses, spikes, you know, the things that make up noise.
And so what the guy seems to have is like a wet version of one of these things that, gee, how to describe it?
And a lot of them big ones, you know, radiating all over a great deal of America.
So the coverage actually is many times what you might imagine it is.
Anyway, celebrating 330, we hit that mark today.
We're talking about, well, actually anything you want to talk about tonight.
There is no specific subject.
It's open lines.
Tomorrow night now, Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald from Loyal University will be here.
He is all at once a geneticist, a Jesuit priest, and a bioethicist.
That's quite the combination.
He'll be here talking about what else?
Cloning.
He's probably the exact right guy to talk about cloning because he come at it from each and every angle.
Just news in now of a powerful magnitude 7.3 earthquake in Pakistan.
I don't have details yet, but there's been a big one in Pakistan.
Again, 7.3 preliminary reading on the Richter scale.
A weird weather.
Oh, man.
100 mile an hour winds in Hawaii.
Hailstorms on the big island.
A tremendous jet stream on the deck cut of winds out through Michigan and parts of Pennsylvania and so forth and so on as the weather continues to quicken.
We're following a chupacabra story down in San Antonio.
They've got a chupacabra.
And I've got video of the chupacabra on the way.
When I get it, I'll pull a still from the video and you'll see it on the website before you can say chupa.
So as soon as that arrives, Derek, a good friend at the television station whose call letters I will not give out tonight because they were so swamped with calls from radio stations all over the country.
So I've agreed not to give out the call letters so they can do some business there.
But the video's on the way, and when I get it, you'll get it.
You know that.
Last hour, some guy called up, and he thought it would be a real thrill to live near or on Mammoth Lakes, you know, in the Mammoth Lakes area where there's going to be a new volcano one of these days, soon, maybe.
And I said, you've got a pretty weird sense of thrills, you know, because you're going to get blown 20,000 feet in the air or something if it happens.
Here's somebody who agrees, might get real to the guy in California who wants to watch from a nearby mountain.
Perhaps he's never heard of David Johnstone, a professional volcanologist who perched seven miles away from Mount St. Helens in 1980 after she blew.
His body was never found.
The movie in question, Disaster in Time.
Thank you.
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Inconspicuous time travelers create confusion when they make a rest stop at a backwater town.
This clever and entertaining sci-fi film manages to avoid many of the clichés of the genre.
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Stars Jeff Daniels.
That's Rebecca Keith.
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So they keep track of these kinds of things, I guess.
Yeah, that was it.
Disaster in time.
They were people who traveled in time.
You know, they'd take lodging at a safe distance from some gigantic disaster about a day or two ahead of time and then wait for it to occur and observe it, just watch it.
People dying for the tourist value.
And then when it was over, they'd move on to another disaster.
Does it happen that people listen to other people's phone calls on portable phones?
I had a newspaper article that was in the San Diego Union Tribune, and I confect that to you.
But basically, they're trying to turn it into a tourist attraction, and they're going to be putting in a computer-generated view of what the Battle of Armageddon is going to be like there.
Yeah, you know, the weather in this country is worsening by the hour, it seems Like.
I've never seen a deterioration like we've had recently.
It's really rough.
unidentified
I know it.
The art I wanted to tell you about my, oh, I don't know if you call it an entity or spaceman or lizard man.
I really don't know because I don't believe in that stuff normally.
But my wife had been telling me about her hearing the back door open and then, you know, kind of the usual thing, hearing footsteps and the door would close.
And she was thinking it was me coming home because I work a third shift.
And this happened quite a few times.
And I tell her, no, you're just dreaming.
You probably woke up and you dreamt it and you just thought that you actually heard that thing.
But I guess it's true.
I don't know.
What happened to me is no one's going to believe what happened to me.
Yeah, and then the only thing we've heard since then is my wife, she was in the bedroom at night when I was at work again, and she heard the name, well, we don't know about the name or what it was, but it was Marouk.
If I survived after death and I was here on earth and I was a poltergeist or a ghost, you know, but a spirit, and I had the ability, I might sneak up on somebody and say, boo!
I mean, you know, playfully, and just watch them jump out of their skin.
unidentified
Well, I sure did.
Like I said, it might sound silly, but it just, it scared me out of my wits.
Well, I have just gone through one year of court battles with my husband being falsely accused of sexually molesting a young girl next door.
And we have both passed polygraph tests.
We have paid.
In fact, it was just, it came right down to the court date, which was last Thursday.
And they dismissed it from court just hours before it went to trial because they knew that there was no court case, but it was if they were financially trying to get it.
I think that when somebody brings charges like this, and then they either dismiss or lose, financial burden should be on them, not you for having to defend yourself.
And that's a change we need in our civil liability laws in this country.
Losers pay.
And if we had that, I don't think we'd have so damn many frivolous, and frivolous is not a word I'm sure that you'd be comfortable with, lawsuits filed.
Loser pays, simply put, loser pays.
unidentified
That is my question to you.
Do you have any sources?
I am a letter writer, and I am prepared to write to anyone and everyone that I can to try and get legislature changed so that this will never happen to another person again.
Well, obviously, begin, thank you, by contacting your state representatives.
It's something that can be done, I believe, at the state level to begin with.
Then it may have to travel up the courts.
But I've thought this for a very long time.
You see, our civil system can be used to literally terrorize somebody financially.
Because you can charge anybody just about with anything, and they are then, of course, forced to defend themselves unless they are without means, and then, of course, somebody of a lesser quality will be appointed to defend them.
No, I think that the loser in these kinds of things ought to have to pay.
And then if you're really sure you've got a civil case of harm, you're going to bring a case, if you're really sure.
But if you're not sure, or if it is frivolous in some manner, then you're not going to bring it because if you lose, you're going to have to cough up the money.
And there is a case of somebody, what, having to cough up $21,000, which for the average person would force them to do exactly what she's doing, and that is put their house on the market, and it would ruin their lives.
Now, you all think about it out there.
Isn't that a good idea?
Sure, bring a case, but if you lose and the person is declared to be innocent, then you pay.
Instead of just hoping you get a judgment, if you don't, well, you terrorize them with legal fees.
It does not seem fair to me.
And our justice system is about, supposed to be about being fair, right?
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County art, a few years ago while fly fishing near Mammoth Lakes, a strange thing happened.
There was a great hatch, and bugs were everywhere on the water.
The fish were aggressively feeding.
And all at once, the fish stopped feeding.
Bugs were still everywhere.
Conditions were perfect, but no fish.
So finally, I waded to shore, sat on a rock, and everything began to shake.
It was a moderate earthquake.
I've always wondered if the fish knew that it was going to happen.
Weird.
Steve in Bakersfield.
Oh, sure, Steve.
I am convinced of it.
Sure, the fish knew what was going to happen.
And I think at one time, we knew too.
I think that the more sensitive out there still know.
And again, I circle back to the Washington Post article in today's Washington Post entitled Comically, I think, Scientists Have a Hunch, Intuition Makes Sense.
And they go into a long scientific explanation of why they think, actually have a hunch, scientists, that intuition makes sense.
I mean, they're suddenly coming around to Some beginning of an understanding that human intuition is a real force.
And I think that to a large degree it has been conditioned out of us by modern life.
But we know.
Those who are more sensitive out there, that's how you make decisions.
Your intuition, your inner feeling, it goes to work and tells you what to do.
Now, a lot of times you ignore it, but the smart ones learn how to listen, and people regard them as sensitives or psychics or whatever you want to call it.
I think we all have that power, or had it.
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I've been watching the market.
You know, Greenspan is really something.
Can you imagine having the power to simply utter some words and have the stock market fall 100 points?
There may be, said he, irrational exuberance in the market.
Well, you know, I understand that it is irrational, but there's been a little bit of that going on here.
People cutting off cats' tails, that kind of thing.
And I know that it's irrational because people call it and say, well, they're just animals.
And I know there are people out there killing people.
But I tell you, if I caught somebody doing that to an animal, cutting its tail off or killing or skinning a dog alive or something like that, I'd probably go to jail because I'd probably do them in on the spot.
I really think I would.
And that's irrational because I know people come and say they're just animals.
I don't understand how human beings can treat animals that way.
To me, that's so sick that a person that's sick doesn't belong walking around.
Just like the people that kill people for no reason.
They don't belong walking around on the street either.
That's, for my taste, that's too much irreverence for life.
it'd be more like a son you know he'd never be exactly like me as far as age goes so each time i I mean, you'd wake up with a brand new body, but you'd be doing it at the expense of the mind of, and then probably the soul of, the clone.
These are the things that we are going to be bumping into with this whole cloning thing.
unidentified
Yeah, you've got to put into account that they're going to have feelings too.
But what I have gathered from my audience, which is an honest audience, I think a lot more honest than many of them out there, is that people would do exactly as you're suggesting to hell with what's right and wrong.
If I can get me a new body, I'm going for it.
unidentified
Well, people with money, they ain't going to think about anything else.
You're really exactly right, and I appreciate your honesty.
Maybe it's not right, but it's honest.
And we all know that facing a decrepit, deteriorating old age, given the opportunity to have brands spanking new bodies, especially knowing what you know now, people are going to take that opportunity.
Rather than die, they're just going to do it because it's the nature of humanity.
So it really lays out a lot of very basic, important questions about cloning.
But I mean, this genie, folks, is out of the bottle.
They just said because of the pills and to counteract the possibility or build up your resistance to chemical nerve agents, said there's a possibility of lingering side effects.
Are you surprised that two-thirds of the records of Gulf War exposure are, well, seem to be missing?
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No, not now.
You know, I, up to about a year ago, was thinking this was some kind of mass hypochondria.
But with all the things that have come out, particularly about the possibility of no one thought of a biological contaminant, that the troops, like I did, I was an infantryman in this.
One thing that I was calling to let other people know, we have a strange thing.
I'm nervous.
going on here in Minnesota, we have an individual or two individuals going around in Isani County, and they're abducting dogs and killing them and then bringing them back to the people's property so the owners and stuff find it.
And there was a radio show on...
For about three months.
And they have a sheriff's department out there on the radio talking about it where callers and stuff were calling in.
And that sheriff said the worst thing they can do to these people, they might be able to get them with a misdemeanor or a gross misdemeanor.
And the neighbors and stuff around the area are almost getting to the point of vigilante.
I'd be in jail or I'd be up for murder because if I caught someone doing something like that, I'd probably, and I know it's irrational, but I'd probably on the spot take their life and go to jail and then be charged with murder.
The sick, sick, sick, sick, those are really sick people, and I think they ought not to be walking around.
And if it was me they met up with when they were doing one of these deeds, they wouldn't be walking around anymore.
All right, we're going to break here at the top of the hour, and we'll come back and do more of whatever it is you want to do.
It's called Open Lines.
This is the American CBC Network.
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Any line, any line at all, any line you can get through on of all the telephone lines I've got here, anybody, all I want you to do is call up and say, if I was a dictator, I'd and then finish that sentence, and then you're off the air.
Tell me where you're calling from.
Say, if I was a dictator, I'd and then finish the sentence for me.
Otherwise, we're talking about Mammoth Lakes rocking and rolling again there, and one day there's going to be a volcano.
The weather in Hawaii, totally odd, and everywhere else for that matter.
100 mile an hour winds on the big island.
Hailstorms.
High winds in Michigan throughout into Pennsylvania, very high winds, terrible weather all over the country.
Flooding near Peoria.
It's obviously worsening.
A sheep has appeared with a leg growing out of its head.
Disgusting.
To go along with my eight-legged sheep that I've got on the website.
There's a Washington Post article this morning entitled, Scientists Have a Hunch that Intuition Makes Sense.
That's the headline.
And they actually are investigating scientifically intuition.
It's like they're just discovering that there might really be something to it.
I think it's been just about bred out of us, frankly.
So, you know, we're talking about all kinds of things here and whatever you want.
The chupacabra story is a big one.
I'm not mentioning the television station, but the reporter at it, very nice guy, is sending me a videotape of the chupacabra.
And I'll take a still from that if I can and get it up on the internet for you.
So that should be arriving Saturday.
I'm sure I'll have it on the net.
If it gets here on Saturday, it might not get here till Monday.
But if it does, I'll have it up by Dreamland time.
That story sounds like it's true.
And once again, I am not dead.
There is a big, big article circulating out there on the internet saying that Art Bell is dead.
I'm not dead.
I've been getting calls from my affiliates saying, is Art Bell dead?
And here is an email I got earlier.
How would you have answered this?
Hi, Art.
Rumor has it you're dead.
Is this true?
If I don't hear from you, I'll have to assume it is.
A tragic loss.
If you're not dead, thanks for your reply.
Signed, Scott.
I didn't answer it, so Scott probably figures I'm dead.
The next time I think somebody asks me, I'm going to say yes, but I have arisen.
People are always saying, and I would save mankind, and I would dictate that all people hold hands and have flowers in their hair, and everybody would get along if I was a dictator.
Come on.
You can do better than that.
We're talking about ruthless dictatorial power here.
Now, again, let me try it again.
When I answer the line, you're supposed to say, if I was a dictator, and then finish that sentence.
If I was a dictator, I would take the energy spin in sports activities across the United States and put it into cleaning up various things like drugs and the environment and the normal good stuff like that.
If I were a dictator, I would decree that all national interests shall come second to the human population dilemma, which shall be foremost among all issues until we have a firm handle on the problem.
If I were a dictator, if I were a dictator, what I would do is I would look into, I would analyze all of the races, and I would take into the ones to distinguish which one had godlike qualities, and those that distributed ungodlike qualities, I would first of all put them in check, because there seem to be a group of people on the face of the earth that distributes no compassion toward others.
First of all, if I was dictator, I would have command of nuclear weapons that would get their respect.
Oh, okay.
Because that's all that these people seem to understand is violence.
Because I hear some of them call tonight and say, what all They would do to some people in a justice system who has proven it's not fair and it's so faulty, it's a shame that half of the people in there are probably in there under false pretense.
I would take a first-time violent offender, such as a rapist or a murderer, and I would make them view the execution of their own clone and tell them it's a preview of what's coming if they do that again.
In other words, there would be a clone, probably one with a very limited brain, and he would execute them in front of their eyes so they would know what was coming.
But would that be fair to the clone?
Oh, this clone thing is going to be a problem.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
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Morning, Art.
This is Mike Collins from Willis, California.
Yes.
And if I were a dictator, I would force, upon pain of death, all people to live in peace.
And again, we reference the domestic use of nuclear devices.
Eastern Rockies, you're on the air.
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Well, I suppose if I was a dictator, I would probably eliminate the IRS, the Federal Reserve, go back into gold standards, require people for population control to pass an economic mean standard and an intelligence test.
That's just to start with.
Head on the phone thing?
Oh, maybe tonight.
You really great-looking women with intelligence and personality.
Well, see, if you're a dictator, you could do that and have them, of course, at your beck and call.
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
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Hi, I'm Mike from Evansville, and if I were a dictator, I would require all families, be they divorced or married, common law, to spend a bare minimum of one hour with their children or themselves at a family meal each day.
If I was a dictator, I would pass a law that says, You just speak and it shall be done.
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Oh, okay.
I would say that anyone who wants a divorce, whoever wins the case, has to pay all expenses, and the other person gets to come and go whenever they want.
Dear Art, from the Home Office in Alhambra, California, the top 10 societal impacts of the clone age.
1.
Paranoia grows.
Is that fella behind me a clone?
2.
Out magazine stops outing gays and begins outing clones.
3.
The ACLU doubles its membership by admitting clones for civil rights movement.
Health insurance companies require newborns to get clone insurance.
Celebrity clone shops.
Celebrity clone shops open in Beverly Hills so you can buy a copy of your favorite celebrity.
No more stalking required.
Radio City Rockets become absolutely identical.
Minnesota Twins baseball team becomes the Minnesota Clones.
New chapters of narcissists anonymous spring up everywhere.
Deja vu becomes a constant everyday feature of life, and mirrors become obsolete.
And here's somebody who says, if I were a dictator, I'd remove all the air conditioning in government buildings in Washington, D.C. Man, that would clear them out, wouldn't it?
I've got an article Here, which is from the Contra Costa Times, entitled Chicks Turn the Tables with Field Guide to American Men.
This is really, really lowbrow stuff.
Chicks Turn the Tables with Field Guide to American Men.
This is a guide to American men.
She lists in it the diets, nest types, plumage, habitat, sexual displays, and mating calls of more than 50 of the most common species of men.
We learn here about their foraging techniques, mating behavior, and every class from the pretentious serious theater man or corporate lawyer guy to the pathological Don Juan and bitter freeloading journalist is accompanied with an illustration displaying each man's characteristic markings.
I've been telling this audience that women make better natural dictators than men.
This is a fact that the world is, most of the dictators of the world, of course, have been men.
But I believe in the quickening world in the future, they will be women, and they will make the great dictators of our time look like pussycats when women really come to power.
They will be so brutal.
They will redefine the word brutal.
West of the Rockies, no, Big Island line, you're on the air.
There really is a question, and that is, and I'm sincere when I ask this, if you were to say, if we cloned you, all right, from a little bit of your skin or a little bit of your blood or whatever yielded up the DNA that we needed, and we had an identical you, in every sense, every way, would you have a separate soul?
Would your clone have a separate soul?
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Yeah, I would say yes, in the same way identical twins do, because, again, an identical twin, it's just that it was done.
I mean, whatever person, what soul an animal has, it's well, if an animal has a soul, that's why when you see the surveys, the national surveys, people are not very disturbed about the cloning of animals.
They say that's okay.
But like 87% or something like that are really freaked out over the cloning of humans.
And it's because most people, most religious folk, don't really believe that animals have souls.
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Well, just going back to the cloning of a person, obviously it was done later in a person's life.
Obviously, when nature clones, if you will, you know, they create an identical twin, it's done at the same time.
If you cloned yourself, the person would be starting off X number of years behind you.
And the other thing, too, is to remember is they've done extensive studies on identical twins.
And even though they are the same genetic material, and in most cases, it's been a few weighted and separated, and they've studied both, even the ones who have grown up in the same households, they sometimes grow up with slightly different attitudes.
They sometimes have slightly different preferences.
Yes, they're so much the same, but they still have separate identities.
A clone would still be a separate person, a separate soul, a separate identity.
Well, that remains to be seen when we begin cloning human beings.
I wouldn't say that's an absolute.
And that's not a religious view that I'm giving you.
It's just that I don't know.
I don't know that a clone would possess what we think of as a soul.
Sure, maybe it would.
But it would be an act of man, not an act of God.
And if God is the one who sees to it from the great guff that the soul is inculcated into the body at whatever moment it is, and we are the ones doing the creation, then maybe they would be soulless beings.
I'm trying to get a call from the big island of Hawaii, and I'm asking everybody else not to call, and of course, nobody's paying any attention to that.
The number is 1-800-618-8255, only if you're from the Big Island of Hawaii.
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Oh, I'll tell you, if I could play the piano like that, I wouldn't be talking.
I love piano.
Under the category of it figures, here we go.
Art, I wanted to let you know that in this week's variety, here in Hollywood, Hollywood, if she could.
Anyway, in Hollywood, they published the year's filming calendar, and one of the films to begin shooting in September is Chupacabra, Avalon Systems, film location San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Executive producer, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Thought you'd find it interesting, Mark.
Mark sent that to me.
So there you are.
It figured a movie called Chupacabra, filmed in San Juan, it absolutely figured that should be something.
There's all kinds of stories now going around about that.
Thank you.
That the president and first lady were well aware all that was going on, you know, that the Lincoln bedroom was renting out like Motel 6.
And when there were people staying there, they didn't want to see they would avoid them by scheduling something else.
You know, even though they're staying in the White House, they would avoid them.
So I was thinking of taking, starting a bidding war on somebody staying in my uplink room.
That's what we call it.
The uplink room.
It's adjacent to where I am right now.
It's a bedroom, but it has uplink machinery in it, you know, satellite uplink machinery.
And right now, there are a lot of people that can claim they've stayed in the White House, but there is nobody save my mom who can claim they've spent a night in the uplink room.
Well, sleep paralysis is the first step, if you let it go, toward an out-of-body experience.
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Okay, because I've heard a lot lately that when people wake up and they think something's wrong with them, they were saying that everybody's body does get paralyzed so that you don't act out your dreams.
And that there's like different parts of your brain while you're asleep, and one part might wake up and you're paralyzed, or the other part of your brain might stay asleep and then you have sleepwalking.
I have found over the years of doing talk radio and doing these sorts of topics that women are incredibly more brutal than men.
And I am firmly convinced that when women reach their full potential politically, power-wise, and we finally do get some serious women dictators, you know, they'll make dictators like Lennon look like pussycats.
I guarantee you.
I guarantee you.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
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Hi.
All right.
Great to talk to you.
Yes, good time caller, and I'm calling from the big island.
Well, I have seen them on video, but I've never seen them in person, and I've known about them for years.
I have no idea, like everybody else, I have no idea what they are.
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Well, see, there are many, I mean, they've had people chase them all the way down to the border to Mexico, which is approximately anywhere from 50 to 100 miles.
Oh, well, yeah, of course, you know, everything out there.
Probably drug runners, you know, you never know what's going on out there.
Having grown up there all my life, I've heard a lot of stories about it.
Supposedly there was an Air Force base out there that they that closed down after the 40s, and my father remembers this, but they say that supposedly Hitler is looking for something or out there.
It's just one of those things that happens because it's Texas.
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You know, you got an almost basin, and then you got a secret school, and my dad kind of like wanted to be looking for, actually, to kind of see that area.
But, you know, it's just really interesting to see the marvelized, but it's just a mystery.
Now, there's a pretty good project for somebody out there to come up with a marriage test.
You'd probably have to have one for men and one for women.
And depending on your score, you'd be allowed to get married or not.
Boy, there's a lot of people in the sneaker room all of a sudden.
It's really something else.
So, you know, if you're out there and on the net right now, pop over to my website, www.artbell.com, and come into the sneaker room, and you will find me in there.
Not saying a lot because I'm on the air, but I'm watching what people are saying.
Okay, to my international line, you're on the air.
And the second half was such a crushing disappointment.
I got to where I hated that kid, that stupid little kid.
His grandfather falls in the pit, right?
And so what does he do?
He heads straight to ground zero so that by the very end of the movie, he's hanging by his little hands, ready to fall into the very center of ground zero and burn to a crisp.
And if I'd been there, I'd swear I'd have stepped on his hands.
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Well, what I was disappointed with is that I thought they had an opportunity, rather than making a soap opera out of it, to make it into like a somewhat of a nuclear devastation film.
Oh, look, you can't sit down and watch that very frequently.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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There's many objects around us.
That's right.
No, I thought it was going to really be based on here's an asteroid smashing into Earth and completely wiping out the planet, except for remnants of civilizations and how people regrouped and got together.
And they could have done that really, really well.
And the second part with the kid, how could they have done that?
I understand that you need the human element, but as the caller just said, it could have been done so much better.
Most of civilization would have been gone, as the caller said, but a remnant which would have pulled itself up by its bootstraps and begun anew, or even have all of civilization wiped out, you know, and we'd be nothing but future fossil fuel or something.
Anything but the little kid wandering toward the center of the pit.
I just couldn't believe it that they would do that.
I sent you a page from the recent issue of Astronomy Magazine.
And it says that NASA will post on a surveyor's website as soon as the pictures are received from Mars so that everybody can see what the face looks like.
I mean, we already know there are contractual things where they've got the photographs for so long before they have to release them.
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All right.
Well, that's what they stated here in the magazine.
And by the way, high-resolution shots are expected to show details as small as 10 feet across, which is supposed to be 10 times better than the best Viking images that were taken in the mid-70s.
I think I would take Dick Marchenko's book, The Rogue Warrior.
I'd take him, put him back in charge of the Steel Team 6, bring him over, and have him eliminate Sodom Hussein here with extreme prejudice, and I'd put his head on display as the State Capitol.
Americans are actually given the opportunity to be dictatorial.
Quite brutal.
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Yeah, I just, you know, I think we're just kind of stepping up and stop being Mr. Nice Guy and kind of let people know that America, you know, needs to protect our own.
See, I'm telling you, these women, women are naturally a notch or two or three more cruel than men.
This is something I found out during talk radio over the years.
You know, every now and then somebody will commit a horrible crime.
And I remember over the years there would be a show where, well, what do you think the punishment ought to be?
Inevitably, the women calling in would be far more creative with the cruelest possible punishment and intimate descriptions of how they would disassemble the person if you follow me.
Well, at least your wife, Taylor Caldwell, had the opportunity, Bob, to face her, accuser is not the right word, but the author of her memorial announcements.
Well, in this particular instance, it was kind of eerie because the surgically, seemed to be surgically removed on the one half, and in terms of the article, then on the other half of the article, they said, no, that's just the way it is when, you know, wild things start picking at it.
And I thought, well, that's kind of odd because anytime I've had any dead animal out where other animals have been eaten, it's not like it's surgically, you know, cut up.
Because just having listened, I always thought of myself as rather a logical thinker, being in the business that I'm in.
And having listened to that particular program, it did upset me to a point.
And I was just wondering what your take on Ed is, vis-a-vis, when he was talking about the guy who did the fake alien autopsy, he said this guy was probably P.T. Barnum.
Regarding that, you're talking about who hands out souls, or I should say on the portion of Christianity, but when you say the majority of the populace...
I wonder, you know, I kind of wonder, I've been thinking about that since I found out about it, and I wonder what the English are going to think of me.
Well, I need some very pertinent information because as I'm not going to be hearing you for a while, I need to know how I can get your book when it comes out.
Yes, we're going to be, we've got this arrangement that we're coming to with British Talk Radio.
And we're working on that.
These things are not easily done.
You know, we've got to get signal across the Atlantic and get all kinds of contractual things done, but we're working on that.
As an alternative to short wave.
Because all of a sudden, communications and the way of getting signals distributed is changing, and it's mainly by satellite, and so there are better ways to achieve what we want to achieve.
I have written one book already, and a lot of people don't know about that, and I always forget to talk about it.
It is available and in well into the third printing now, and you can still get it.
In fact, it's going to be, I guess, kind of a collector's item.
You can still get it, The Art of Talk, at that number.
And then by about mid-April, my new book, The Quickening, will be out, and I guess you'll be able to get it at the same number, I think.
So anyway, if you want The Art of Talk, a brutally honest book, and so is The Quickening, in fact, maybe even more so, in a different sense, a different way.
Really brutal.
I don't know any other way to write, though.
The number is 1-800-864-7991.
And so you can get that book right now.
1-800-864-7991.
Somebody remind me tomorrow morning if you would.
Tomorrow night, if I can even remember to do it, to run that earlier in the show.
When you're doing in vitro fertilization, then you could argue, as you are now arguing, when you're able to actually take the DNA strands and put them in a blank slate, essentially, and clone, then you are creating life.
That's very interesting, because one of the astronauts supposedly said while they were up in the shuttle, that they too saw the comet, and it appeared to have two tails.