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Feb. 27, 1997 - Art Bell

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening and good morning across all these many prolific time zones stretching all the way from the Asian and Hawaiian Island chains in the west, across this great land to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north to the Pole worldwide on the ever-growing internet.
		You know, it doubles the internet about every three or four months.
		I wonder what it's going to become.
unidentified		Don't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M., and I'm Mark Bell, and we're going to do open lines all night long.
		Tomorrow night, tomorrow night really is going to be interesting.
		Now, it took me a long time and the help of friends like Michael Lindemann to find an appropriate guest on cloning.
		I do believe that this cloning story, if true, and I have no reason to believe it is not, is the biggest news since the splitting of the atom.
		That's a non-trivial statement.
		But the problem was, who do you get to discuss it?
		You want a person involved, obviously, in genetics.
		But there are other aspects.
		In other words, once you learn how scientifically, physically, it is accomplished and that it is appropriate to imagine that humans will be cloned scientifically, then you need to be able to talk about the other aspects of it.
		For example, religious and ethical.
		Lo and behold, I've located Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald at Loyola University here, Chicago, who is at the same time a geneticist, a Jesuit priest, and a bioethicist.
		Now, that's a combination that you'd more easily hit the lottery than find that, but I did.
		And so he'll be here tomorrow night, and we will ask him about all aspects of cloning.
		You know, from every point of view, and he's uniquely qualified, I do believe, to discuss it.
		So he'll be getting back from New York, from doing a TV show, I think, in New York.
		But we've encouraged him to stay up late, and we'll find out what we can about cloning from somebody who really ought to know.
		In the news, as they say, General Schwartzkopf, Norman Iraqi War Schwarzkopf, says he doubts that U.S. troops, apparently any U.S. troops, were ever exposed to Iraqi war gas.
		He testified in front of the Senate yesterday.
		That's remarkable.
		And by the way, about two-thirds of the records that were supposed to be kept on this kind of exposure, well, they're missing.
		Two-thirds of the records are missing.
unidentified		Where could they have gone?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought Rosemary Woods was doing something else these days, but they're just missing.
		Misplaced.
		Probably turn up on a desk in the White House somewhere.
		Our Attorney General looks as though she will not appoint a special prosecutor to look into wrongdoing during campaign fundraising times.
unidentified		What a surprise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Clinton administration appears poised to approve Mexico, get this, approve Mexico as a wonderful drug-fighting partner.
		This follows the arrest of the Mexican drug czar, by the way.
		I said, the Mexican drug czar for helping and protecting drug dealers in Mexico.
		I said, the Mexican drug czar, you know, their version of McCaffrey, in the pokey for druggy stuff.
		But we're going to certify Mexico's big drug-helping partner.
		Now, I guess I've got to deal with this because radio stations are beginning to receive it.
		I had a call this morning from a radio station, one of my affiliates, in Las Vegas, as a matter of fact, asking, oh my God, is Art dead?
unidentified		No, I'm not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that was followed.
		I have had a million emails like this.
		For example, here's one I got earlier today from Scott.
		Subject in the subject line for the email, deceased, question mark.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Rumor has it that you are dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this true?
		If I don't hear from you, I'll have to assume it is.
		A tragic loss.
		If you're not dead, thanks for your reply.
		I didn't answer him.
		So, I'm not dead, damn it.
		Now, I may have felt a little close to it a couple times, a week Ago or so when I had the flu, but somebody decided to write my death notice and distribute it widely across the internet.
		These things go very quickly across the internet and they are recycled and recycled and recycled.
		And now that I'm apparently alive, because people have noticed I do seem to be back on the radio, there are messages now circling around that it is not me, that it's some sort of electronic talking voice that Art Bell actually died.
		So even faced with the apparent fact that I am here, those people that wrote my death a press release, it was very official looking, by the way, are now suggesting that I really am dead.
		They refuse to accept the apparent reality of my presence.
		Well, I am not dead.
		All right, a follow-up on yesterday.
		Now, later in the show, you might have missed it.
		You might have missed it.
		There was news that a chupacabra has been captured, a caught, near San Antonio, Texas.
		Now, in order that the TV station not get inundated with calls, as it has been, well, I'll read you the facts I got.
		I've got a contact in the newsroom there, very nice fellow named Derek.
		Hello, Art.
		Enjoyed talking with you earlier today.
		Yes, I talked to Derek, and Derek is going to send me some video of this chupacabra.
		And I will, of course, snap a still from it and put it on the website for you.
		And that's on the way by next day.
		You know me.
		Anyway, he wrote the following, Art the Chupa story caused such a stir that I frankly would appreciate it if you didn't mention it, did not mention on the air what station it's from because our staff spent the whole day answering phones from radio stations all across the country.
		So, when you get the photos, just use my name only, which I will, Eric.
		Anyway, here's more info.
		We talked with a rancher again today who says the photos were taken last November on his land near Patit.
		That's P-O-T-E-E-T, which is south of San Antonio.
		He says his ranch hands discovered the beast in a coyote trap with two others very much like it nearby jumping up and down.
		The two that were free ran into the brush.
		The ranch hand tried to free the creature, but it was snapping at him with its claws.
		He says it had eyes on the top of its head that moved nearly 360 degrees and followed him as he tried to get close to it.
		And also had a horn, a horn folks, protruding from its mouth.
		He also says the others could jump high in the air, almost flying, in quotes.
		The ranch hand says the creature let out a loud screech when he continued to try to free it.
		Rather than risk his limbs, he backed off and visited the location three days later, then found it dead in the trap.
		The ranch hand says that he also found two feet in diameter holes and tunnels around the area, which looked like the creatures had burrowed underground, much like a prairie dog.
		I asked, what happened to the body?
		And he said some men in suits took it away, and he claims it's either in Austin or Houston.
		You should get the tape on Saturday.
		He says, call me tomorrow if you want.
		So, a very nice guy, Derek, is shipping off a tape to me, and I will snappy a still from that, and of course, get it up on the website for you.
		But the word is, they've got the body of a chupacabra.
		And they've got video of it.
		And soon I will have video of it.
		So make of that what you will.
		I'm curious, very, very curious what it looks like.
unidentified		I'm sure you are too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Neat story.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aren't the 6 o'clock news here in Nashville, WTN, of course, in Nashville on the CBS channel just showed a sheep with a complete leg growing out of the top of its head.
		Oh, my God.
		That was somewhere in Spain.
		I didn't catch exactly where the leg had a joint, and it was just flopping around as the sheep ran around.
		Now, I've got a picture of a sheep on my website with eight legs.
		Now, I ask you, I ask you, this was in Spain, okay?
		Is it not possible that the scientists that were doing the cloning experiments before they got this sheep that they'd been showing to the world, perhaps had a few experiments that did not work out, you know, quite the way they wanted them to.
		Could that be my eight-legged sheep?
		Bad as that was, the photograph of the eight-legs, yuck.
		The prospect of a sheep with a leg growing out of the middle of its head is really gross.
		Weather news.
		Aloha, Art.
		A few days ago, you heard from a guy on the big island of Hawaii talking about 100-mile-an-hour winds, actually 80, hitting Hilo and ripping off roofs.
		Well, guess what?
		It's all true.
		Here is the newspaper article from Hilo Associated Press.
		Hawaii County Civil Defense Administrator Harry Kim says he wouldn't be surprised if damage from Monday's windstorm tops a million dollars.
		Wind gusts at times exceeded 100 miles per hour, according to forecasters.
unidentified		So 100 mile an hour winds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, short of a hurricane, I said this the other night.
		I'm saying it again.
		Short of a hurricane, what the hell would do this?
		Continuing with weather news, today in the southernmost town on the island, actually southernmost in the U.S., that's N-A-A-L-E-H-U, Hawaii, I will not pronounce that.
		They had a pounding hail storm.
		Read it again, jail storm.
		So I'm not sure what's going on in Hawaii, but nothing good weather-wise.
		And then also, news today on the Weather Channel that the jet stream apparently is coming down to, quoting them, very low levels.
		The winds throughout Ohio, Pennsylvania, and part of Michigan have been absolutely incredible.
		That's Mike in Michigan.
		He says, maybe Ed Dames was right.
		Now, I'm going to read you the following.
		Oh, by the way, in the Yakima newspaper, there was an article on Mel's Hole entitled The Whole Truth, Question Mark.
		Printed in the Yakima Herald Republic.
		They interviewed me for that.
		If you want to read it, we naturally have a link on our website right now.
		So the Mel's Hole story.
		Or would that be the story of the whole that Mel said he had?
		All of that in the Accommod Herald Republic, and you'll see it on my website right now.
		So from all over the world, you can jump up there and read that article.
		It is www.artbell.com.
		I received the following today.
		Art, a quick note to confirm the existence of Mel Water's Hole.
		A while back, my father-in-law told me a story about when he used to ride motorcycles years ago in the sagebrush around Ellensburg.
		We were discussing off-road racing and how when they suddenly came upon unexpected obstacles at high speed, he told me about riding along and having to jump quickly over a hole that appeared in front of them, eight to ten feet wide, so deep he could not see the bottom.
		The bottom couldn't be found by throwing rocks and listening for them to hit.
		Our local newspaper reported the motor had taken over and barricaded the hole.
		That's Lance in Yakima.
		So there you've got it.
		Or maybe it's my own story feeding back to me, but this sounds like it's older, so I don't know.
		Maybe there was a Mel's hole.
		I just don't know.
		But the news certainly is weird.
		There's yet another facts about a sheep with a leg coming out of its head.
		That's horrible, isn't it?
		Absolutely horrible.
		And I wonder if that's just not a bit of the first few sheep they experimented upon that they didn't show us.
		All right.
		Radios.
		One of my favorite topics.
		I love radio.
		It is so close to my heart that a lot of times when I get off the air after five hours here, I go on the air, I'm the ham operator, and I go on the air there.
		Never say die, I guess, huh?
		I'm really stuck on radio.
		And one of the coolest radios, now I bet I had five calls last night.
		One of the coolest radios ever made is the Beijing.
		It has a crank on the side.
		When CNN ran the stories on Beijing, they actually disassembled and took the crank mechanism out and showed it to you.
		I don't know how many of you saw that.
		It really is incredible.
		It is patented because there is none other like it in the world.
		Anyway, you crank the Beijing for one minute, and then on AM, FM, or eight bands of shortwave, it will play for 30 minutes, giving you some pretty doggone good audio, too.
		I said AM, FM, and shortwave.
		Now, obviously this radio has application for today's weird weather or tomorrow's weird weather.
		If your power goes out, you've always got power with a Beijing if you can turn a crank.
unidentified		It's easy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So instead of being one of those people stuck with no information when power goes out, order a Beijing now.
		All right?
		Price is $119.95 for this shipment.
		Now, there's going to be some interruption here shortly because you're ordering more Beijings than they can make.
		So I wouldn't wait any longer.
		$119.95.
unidentified		If you want it, call Bob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Crane in the morning at 7.30 Pacific Coast Time.
		The number?
		1-800-522-8863.
		That's 1-800-522-8863.
		The C. Crane Company.
		Listen, do you remember a time when you could buy a new car for $2,000?
		A new three-bedroom home for $10,000 or less, or maybe a $0.10 cup of coffee?
		A time when the average middle-income family had only one wage earner.
		That allowed the wife to devote full-time care for the family.
		They could still own their own home, buy a new car every couple of years, take a nice vacation every summer, put a couple of kids through college, and look forward to carefree retirement.
		That year was 1966, only 30 years ago.
		What happened?
		Well, to have the same standard of living today, you'd have to net, after taxes, about 10 times the income of that year.
		Very few of us have been able to keep pace.
		What's happened to our beloved American dollar, the American dream?
		For the answers to these questions and more, I want you to call my friends at North American Trading and ask for their free newsletter on the decline of the dollar.
		That number is 1-800-877-9799.
		It's completely free.
		The number, 1-800-877-9799.
		Is there a special woman in your life?
		If so, then she could sure use a bit of extra help around the house.
		I'm sure absolutely fresh clones is the answer.
		See your woman's eyes light up when she receives the Magunga shipment of fresh clones in a large triangular crate.
		More clones than she's ever seen.
		At Absolutely Fresh Clones, all they grow are clones, as far as the eye can see.
		They are a clone farm in Southern California, and when you call, they go out and harvest fresh clones.
		They place a huge selection of the best clones at a large triangular crate, which is then FedEx to you at the very next opportunity, all this for $399.95, which includes shipping and handling.
		Absolutely fresh clones guarantees their clones will be the freshest and largest shipment of clones that you can get.
		They're clones, the best workers money can buy.
		If their clones don't perform to your expectations, return them for a full refund.
		No questions asked.
		So, what are you waiting for?
		Get your special someone out there, out of the house, away from work, and give her clones.
		Smart guys know that when she has free time, they benefit.
		Call 24 hours a day.
		1-800-2 clone.
		It's 1-800-2-Clone.
unidentified		Ha-ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll probably be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is CBC.
unidentified		CBC.
		This is TRN and CBC, Talk Radio Network and Chancellor Broadcasting Company, home of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		We'll be right back.
		We'll be right back.
		Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		That's 702-727-1295.
		First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here from the grave, I am.
		Come on, Art.
		You promised us an update on the Kramer case, so where is it?
		Well, now, here's somebody who's not been listening.
		I gave you the update, and you weren't listening, were you?
		I've got a show coming up March 6th that will clear it all up, if you listen.
		Ed Dames sent a fax, and this gets pretty serious, saying that Taylor Kramer is dead, and I've already informed Kathy of that.
		The specifics are going to be given to Kathy here on the program.
		So Ed Dames and Kathy Kramer together March 6th.
		And I'm looking forward to that.
		And then there's some more stuff that may occur that night that I think you'll find interesting.
		No doubt we'll keep Ed on.
		Twist his arm and make him stay.
		I just got this article from the Washington Post.
		And I swear to you, this is true.
		The title of the article is, Scientists Have a Hunch.
		Let me do it straight.
		Scientists have a hunch, intuition makes sense.
		Now let's think about that.
		Scientists have a hunch intuition makes sense.
		Sub headline, Gut Feelings Linked to Wise Decision Making.
		Rob Stein, Washington Post, Friday, Feb 28, 1997.
		Neuroscientists yesterday reported compelling new evidence that intuition plays a crucial role in helping people make sensible decisions and clues to how gut feelings work in our brain.
		An unusual experiment that compared normal people to those with a very specific type of brain damage as they gambled with cards identified, apparently, A part of the brain that appears necessary for intuition to work.
		Now, what does that mean?
		Does that mean that those people who don't have intuition are brain damaged?
		It sounds that way.
		Anyway, it's a long article, and you can read it at the Washington Post website or, you know, get a copy of the Washington Post.
		Anyway, that's it.
		Scientists have a hunch, intuition makes sense.
		I love that headline.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello there.
		No, I didn't push the right button.
		I'm sorry.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
		Hi.
		This is Brenda calling from Lexington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lexington, Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Brenda.
unidentified		Hi.
		I was watching the Astros Deadly Impact piece on Wednesday night on NBC.
		Yeah.
		And they were talking about volcanoes in Mammoth Lake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And anonymous radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Been a couple of three and a half point earthquakes in the Mammoth area.
unidentified		Yes.
		That's what I heard.
		And the system 4.5 one on Monday.
		I was wondering if you heard anything on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
		It just keeps cooking along.
		One of these days, kaboom.
unidentified		Yeah, that'll be it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we're going to have a volcano.
unidentified		Yeah.
		They were saying it was like showing signs of awakening and stuff.
		And so, you know, I was like, ooh, I just wouldn't want to be out there.
		Enjoy your show.
		Long time listener for some callers.
		And that's all I have to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, thank you for the call.
		Wouldn't it be something to live in an area where gases were coming up out of the earth near you and the earth was constantly shaking?
		That's mammoth lakes.
		And one of these days, there's going to be, they know it, everybody knows it, there's going to be the birth of a volcano there.
		Everybody would be real surprised.
		Wildcard line, you're on air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		How you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
unidentified		Hey, that guy that was on Mel?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That was great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was one of the greatest.
		Look, it depends on how you feel about it.
		It was either real or it was a hoax.
unidentified		Oh, that's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Well, you never really know, but I mean, even if it was true, it would be kind of neat to go up there and kind of spy in the military with some night vision goggles and, you know, kind of, you know, do our own thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, if you're into kicks like that, you know where Area 51 is?
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can really get kicks up there, and it's not Route 66 either.
unidentified		I know, I know.
		It's pretty interesting.
		We don't have to go that far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, well, no, but by all means, I mean, take your night vision up there and let me know how you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, when you get out, give me a call.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me know how the food was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand the county jail, anyway.
unidentified		But also, you know, if it was possible, if Mel, well, he's already sold out, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sold out is a pretty harsh phrase.
		There are some who have used that phrase after his facts of yesterday.
		He has leased away his rights, let's put it that way.
unidentified		But I was going to say, if it did turn out to be true, another thing, an idea I came up with was to maybe build some tunnels and, you know, intersect the hole, so to speak.
		Kind of like a...
		In trouble, right?
		You got it.
		Hey, you have a good one and keep up the good work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, thank you.
		Take care.
		Sure.
		You know where you're going if you do that.
		You don't mess around with the government and their hole.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, my name is Sandy, and I'm from Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Minnesota, Sandy.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And I was just listening to you this evening, and I've been concerned listening to you for a while about your safety.
		What safety?
		Earth safety.
		And when I heard you talking about the news going through the Internet, that you had the hide and wishful thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was really wishful thinking on somebody's part.
unidentified		Well, I was concerned, and I was hoping that I was sitting here one night listening, and I thought, when this melting occurred, I thought, I wonder if the side screens are bugged in some way.
unidentified		And of course, they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I assume they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I assume they are.
unidentified		Who cares?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
unidentified		I just want you to be safe, and I hope you have security and all these things to protect yourself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have lots of things to do that with.
unidentified		Oh, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your concern.
unidentified		It's something that's been crossing my mind.
		And I mentioned to my son, I think I'll call Art and tell him my concern.
		Maybe he won't want to talk about it, but I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't mind.
		I don't mind.
		I'll talk about anything.
unidentified		I know, and I love you, Program.
unidentified		I've been listening for a long time, and I shall continue to do so, and perhaps I'll call you again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, dear.
unidentified		Thank you so much.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's really, it's hard fighting a rumor.
		Have you ever tried to fight a rumor?
		And it's the damnedest thing.
		Once it gets started, it takes on a life of its own.
		And whoever did this, I guess it's like a chain letter or something, you know.
		Somebody gets there, they go, oh my God, Art Bell's dead.
		And they start faxing it and emailing it around and blah, blah, blah.
		I've still got the thing somewhere here.
		They wanted to read it to me earlier.
		KXNT called and they wanted to read it to me.
		I said, no, I know.
		I've seen it.
unidentified		I've seen it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, maybe I didn't save it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's too bad.
unidentified		You should always save your own death notice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't look like I have it.
		Oh, well.
		Anyway, it was very specific, you know, written almost sadly and very professionally outlining my survivors and all the rest of that sort of stuff.
		But I mean, even a week after I'd been back on the air, I was only sick for a total of, what, three days or something?
		Oh, people with too much time on their hands.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Bill, and I'm calling from Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bill.
unidentified		That Mammoth Lake thing really, I was just sort of reading while I was listening to you.
		That just totally shot me up.
		I mean, that's so interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and when it does occur, everybody is going to be so shocked.
unidentified		Well, Art, I really believe you should have somebody on your show, a scientist or something, that really considers that his area of expertise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had them on.
unidentified		You've already had them on.
unidentified		Yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, there's going to be, one day, a volcano there.
unidentified		Well, it's going to go.
		Kaboom.
		It's going to go kaboom.
		Yeah.
		And the other thing is Mount Rainier, you know, it's number one on the list of mudslides.
		You know, we're talking mudslide can probably the level Tacoma.
		That's another possibility.
		I'd love to hear you talk about that on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody lives with risk.
unidentified		But it's not risk.
		It's excitement to me.
		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because, I mean, would you like to actually live right at Mammoth?
		I mean, wake up at 2 o'clock in the morning, you know, and hear a giant hissing sound and wake up, honey.
		Wow, this is really fun.
unidentified		Check it out.
		We're about to be blown 25,000 feet into the air.
		That's why you study it and find a good vantage point perhaps nearby mountain peak and watch it.
		It's totally interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was a totally interesting movie about time travelers.
		I don't know if you ever saw it, but they were tourists to disaster.
		In other words, they were not allowed to affect anything, though they could.
		But all they did was travel into time.
		They'd come like a day or two ahead of some terrible disaster.
		And they would, you know, like tourists, they would watch it occur and then go on to something else.
unidentified		What was the name of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now I can't remember it.
unidentified		Because I want to see it now.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll get the name of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Someone will remember.
unidentified		All right, Art.
		Get somebody on the air about Mount Rainier.
		I want to hear about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		I mean, what is it you want to hear?
		That it's going to blow up and decimate Tacoma?
		No more Tacoma?
		These are risks we live with, California earthquakes.
		Where I am, earthquakes, volcanoes, hailstorms, jet streams coming down on deck with 100 mile an hour plus winds.
		You know, life is full of risk.
		So what does your intuition tell you?
		You're going to die in bed or are you going to get blown 20,000 feet into the air by a volcano?
		Birthing.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		This is James in Lafayette, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Doing pretty good.
		I love your show.
		I wanted to ask you a question.
		Are you going to have Chuck Roberts on anymore?
		I read his book, Medusa Falls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I've ever had him on.
unidentified		Yeah, Chuck Roberts?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When did I have Chuck on?
unidentified		Or Craig Roberts, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, different story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Craig would be fun to have back.
unidentified		Yeah, because I read his book, you know, that Medusa Falls that was out.
		Right.
		That's an excellent book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's a good guest, so sure, you know.
unidentified		Yeah, I'd like to have him on again.
		All right.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bye.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
unidentified		Everybody, turn your radio down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Okay.
		My name is Derek from L.A. Yes, sir.
		I want to talk a little bit about the whole Gulf War syndrome thing.
		I'm just curious, why would it be that they would cover up something so I mean that there's so much documentation, there's so much information, and there are so many people that are sick, and it's obviously communicable.
		Why would they be covering it up instead of money?
		Do you think it's only money?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not only money, but there is another thing that occurs.
		Once a cover-up begins, it's like, remember when you were a child and you lied?
		Then pretty soon you had to tell another lie to cover lie number one and another lie and another lie.
		So once it begins, it cascades.
		So money is not the only reason, but it begins that way, and then lies to cover other lies.
		Two-thirds of the records are missing.
		You know what they attribute it to?
		A computer virus.
unidentified		Oh, God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		And here's one other thing.
		If you listen very carefully to the officials who comment on the Gulf War illness, all they ever comment on is gas.
unidentified		Is gas and not chemical.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They never talk about biologicals.
unidentified		Your mention of virus is exactly what I'm afraid of.
unidentified		If they're covering it up and they're not letting the people know and it is not money, the only other reason that I can think of besides liability is something was released that they don't want to let the public know because it's too late.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that too is a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, once it's too late, it's too late, particularly if they have nothing they can do about it.
unidentified		Right.
		I mean, we were supposed to have won the war, or we're still technically at war.
		But we left Saddam Hussein there.
		We backed out, we went in there, and then we backed out, and we left him.
		One of the main things that the United States was saying is, we're going to take Saddam out, we're going to take him out, we're going to take him out.
		You know, we were adamant about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, let's use a little logic here.
		We all know quite a bit about Saddam.
		You know, he has his relatives killed.
		He's that kind of guy, right?
		So we're in the middle of kicking his ass in the Gulf War, and we were really kicking it.
		Now, ask yourself, would this kind of guy use biologicals when he was pressed into a corner, and maybe even if he wasn't pressed into the corner?
		The answer is an obvious, logical.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure he would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure he would.
unidentified		I have a feeling that we were backed into a corner.
		I think he released something and the government knows about it.
		They said, look, you have like 20 years before you can cure this.
		If you don't get back off now, I'll release something that you'll have two days.
		You know, I'm proving to you that I'm crazy enough to do this.
		Leave me alone now.
		Do you understand what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Clearly.
		Any of that is possible, or he just may have simply released what he had.
		I mean, I think he would have.
		I've thought it through.
		We know what kind of guy he is.
		He was getting beaten severely and pushed right into the corner.
		So under those circumstances, or even lesser, would he have released it?
		Again, I say absolutely yes.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		You said you were going to have, and I forget what her name is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Joyce Riley.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		When is she going to be on again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		She called a couple of days ago, and I'm going to schedule her back.
		My guess now would be probably next week.
unidentified		Wow, that's been great.
		Okay.
		I'm looking forward to it.
		Thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
		Take care.
		So there you are.
		West of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Well, hello.
unidentified		Is this Ghost to Ghost?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ghost to Ghost, that's right.
unidentified		Electronic clone of a former Art Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not too much.
unidentified		It's pretty good.
		That's, you know, the evil part of the World Wide Web.
		Anybody can say anything they want to and throw it all out of proportion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		You want to talk about that guy?
unidentified		It was his magnetic and saltwater device that you were talking to last night, was it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean we can, sure.
unidentified		Yeah.
		It seemed to remind me of something that was, well, it's been pretty much made obsolete by integrated circuits, but back in the 70s when we first started studying electronics, they had something called a magnetic amplifier.
		And what this does is it's a broadband amplifier that passes sinusoidal waves, but it blocks and attenuates sharp pulses, spikes, you know, the things that make up noise.
		And so what the guy seems to have is like a wet version of one of these things that, gee, how to describe it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, for one thing, a lot of the audience will not have heard what you're talking about.
		This is a man who called last night who said he's developed this incredible artificial ground slash noise filter.
		It's a two-gallon bucket full of salt water, which would be a natural artificial ground to some degree.
		And then he's put two large permanent magnets opposite polarity at the bottom of the thing and drops a ground wire in.
		And it cuts down interference, cuts down radio frequency spurious emissions, that sort of thing.
		And I think that the guy is on to something.
		And it took a little while to get out last night, but it was absolutely fascinating.
		So we'll talk some more about it, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, but you know, the ocean with the magnetic lines of force of the earth running through it has really the same effect.
		And it'll only pass very, very low frequency radio waves.
		That's how we communicate with submarines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		All right, sir.
		Thank you very much.
		It's very much like the whales with their low frequencies talking to each other.
		Take a break.
		We'll be right back.
		This is CBC.
unidentified		The devil went down to Georgia.
		He was looking for a soul to speak of.
		He was going to bind, but he was way behind and who was willing to make a deal.
		But he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
		And the devil jumped up on a hickory drum and said, boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player, too.
		And if you care to take a care, I'll make a bet with you.
		Now, you play a pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
		I've got a fiddle of gold against your soul, because I think I'm better than you.
		My name's Johnny, and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet you're going to regret, and I'm the best it's ever been.
		Johnny, I'll help you boys by your fiddle heart.
		I'll tell the leaders you're going to have to talk.
		Now don't touch that dial.
		Art Bell will be right back.
		We gotta get your soul.
		We gotta get your soul.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is now on 330 stations nationwide.
		Man, that's a lot of radio stations.
		330 radio stations nationwide.
		That really amazes me.
		And a lot of them big ones, you know, radiating all over a great deal of America.
		So the coverage actually is many times what you might imagine it is.
		Anyway, celebrating 330, we hit that mark today.
		We're talking about, well, actually anything you want to talk about tonight.
		There is no specific subject.
		It's open lines.
		Tomorrow night now, Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald from Loyal University will be here.
		He is all at once a geneticist, a Jesuit priest, and a bioethicist.
		That's quite the combination.
		He'll be here talking about what else?
		Cloning.
		He's probably the exact right guy to talk about cloning because he come at it from each and every angle.
		Just news in now of a powerful magnitude 7.3 earthquake in Pakistan.
		I don't have details yet, but there's been a big one in Pakistan.
		Again, 7.3 preliminary reading on the Richter scale.
		A weird weather.
		Oh, man.
		100 mile an hour winds in Hawaii.
		Hailstorms on the big island.
		A tremendous jet stream on the deck cut of winds out through Michigan and parts of Pennsylvania and so forth and so on as the weather continues to quicken.
		We're following a chupacabra story down in San Antonio.
		They've got a chupacabra.
		And I've got video of the chupacabra on the way.
		When I get it, I'll pull a still from the video and you'll see it on the website before you can say chupa.
		So as soon as that arrives, Derek, a good friend at the television station whose call letters I will not give out tonight because they were so swamped with calls from radio stations all over the country.
		So I've agreed not to give out the call letters so they can do some business there.
		But the video's on the way, and when I get it, you'll get it.
		You know that.
		Last hour, some guy called up, and he thought it would be a real thrill to live near or on Mammoth Lakes, you know, in the Mammoth Lakes area where there's going to be a new volcano one of these days, soon, maybe.
		And I said, you've got a pretty weird sense of thrills, you know, because you're going to get blown 20,000 feet in the air or something if it happens.
		Here's somebody who agrees, might get real to the guy in California who wants to watch from a nearby mountain.
		Perhaps he's never heard of David Johnstone, a professional volcanologist who perched seven miles away from Mount St. Helens in 1980 after she blew.
		His body was never found.
		The movie in question, Disaster in Time.
		Thank you.
		That was it.
		Inconspicuous time travelers create confusion when they make a rest stop at a backwater town.
		This clever and entertaining sci-fi film manages to avoid many of the clichés of the genre.
		Directed by the arrivals David Chloe, is it?
		T-W-O-H-Y, I don't know how to pronounce that.
		Stars Jeff Daniels.
		That's Rebecca Keith.
		Thank you, Rebecca.
		CNI News Media Watch.
		So they keep track of these kinds of things, I guess.
		Yeah, that was it.
		Disaster in time.
		They were people who traveled in time.
		You know, they'd take lodging at a safe distance from some gigantic disaster about a day or two ahead of time and then wait for it to occur and observe it, just watch it.
		People dying for the tourist value.
		And then when it was over, they'd move on to another disaster.
		Does it happen that people listen to other people's phone calls on portable phones?
unidentified		Ooh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It happens all the time.
		All the time.
		Some people, as a matter of fact, make a hobby out of listening to other people's portable phone conversations.
		Sorry to say.
		The way you can beat that, and that is why most people are buying the VTEC, it's really, I think, not the best reason.
		But it's why most people are buying it.
		You can't hear a thing.
		This is a 900 megahertz telephone.
unidentified		And it's completely digital.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the only thing you hear on a scanner is a bunch of noise.
		I mean, you don't even know they're there.
		So nobody's going to hear you.
		That's why people are buying it.
		I buy it because of the clarity.
		I need a clear, portable phone.
		I'm on the phone all the time.
		Without it, I'd go absolutely out of my mind.
		That is the 900 NDL, and that's why I would buy it.
		And there is a third reason, and that is I can carry mine a mile away from the house a mile.
		Matter of fact, a lot of times I'll call Bob Green from a mile away, and I'll say, a mile away, Bob.
		Here I am.
		And you might get more or less than that.
		It depends on the geography.
		But they're wonderful phones, and right now they're $129.95, and that means delivered to your house.
		You compare that price elsewhere.
		Call Bob Crane in the morning.
		Get one on the way.
		You'll love it.
		The number is 1-800-522-8863.
		1-800-522-8863, ZC Crane Company.
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		All right, there are two cruises coming up.
		The one to Egypt and Israel and the Greek islands coming in October is utterly and completely booked up.
		All you could do is get on a waiting list for that.
		But coming up, August 23rd, we're going to take the real Alaska tour.
		A lot of Alaskan tourists out there.
		But this, this is the real thing.
		Let me tell you about it.
		The 23rd, we leave Vancouver, which in itself, Vancouver, is a beautiful city in BC, British Columbia.
		So we begin there.
		There we board a brand new princess ship, just commissioned, the dawn.
		And we go to the famed Inside Passage, you know, Kachikan, Juneau, historic Skagway.
		Then we sail right up to the face of the towering ice fields in Glacier Bay National Park and in Majestic College Fjord.
		Now, that is incredible.
		You know, the ice fields are absolutely amazing.
		And you will love it in a brand new ship.
		And every little wish that you can imagine is catered to.
		I mean, it really is pampering yourself.
		But that is when our Alaska cruise separates from everybody else's Alaska cruise because we don't stop there.
		We're going to see the real Alaska, the interior of Alaska as well.
		So, when we get to Seward, Alaska, we go into Anchorage.
		And there you board the Princess Cruise's luxurious ultra-dome rail cars.
		We go on the Alaska Railroad to the famed Denali National Park.
		After a night there, we continue on to Fairbanks.
		Now, in other words, we see the real Alaska while the other cruises just do the regular thing.
		Now, a lot of people have been calling and asking what's included, and the answer is just about everything, actually.
unidentified		The cruise, all your meals, entertainment, the whole thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your hotels are included in Alaska.
		The trip to Denali Park and Fairbanks.
		In the deluxe princess railcars, all included.
		Local hosts to assist you every step along the way.
		Tours in Anchorage, Denali and Fairbanks, all included as part of the package.
		So, if you would wish to come along with us, I'm going to give you the numbers now.
		You call in the morning.
		They'll send you a free package.
		You know, it's free.
		It'll give you all the details.
		And you can come along.
		If you're east of the Rockies, call after 8 o'clock in the morning Pacific time.
		1-800-633-2732.
		Again, 1-800-633-2732.
		If you are west of the Rockies, call 1-800-848-7120.
		Again, 1-800-848-7120.
		Try to slow down for everybody.
		So Ramona will be there, I think, and all like with it.
		My son will be there, too.
		And it's going to be the Alaska Cruise of a Lifetime.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Ed in San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Ed.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Good.
		A couple things.
		Did you know, speaking of your trip to Israel, did you know that Israel is preparing the Valley of Medego to be a landmark for the Armageddon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't know that.
unidentified		I had a newspaper article that was in the San Diego Union Tribune, and I confect that to you.
		But basically, they're trying to turn it into a tourist attraction, and they're going to be putting in a computer-generated view of what the Battle of Armageddon is going to be like there.
		It sounds amazing.
		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would love to get a version of that, wouldn't you?
unidentified		That would be something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A computer-animated version of what the Battle of Armageddon will be like.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		So I'll be faxing that newspaper article to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will look forward to that.
unidentified		Also, did you get our package, our CD that we sent you from Savior Machine?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will have to go ask.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		But we're just hoping it made it to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I will ask.
unidentified		Okay, thanks a lot, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		My wife is helping mightily with the mail.
		Oh, I get a lot of mail.
		That really is something.
		It's a full-time job, actually, now.
		So I will have to ask.
		And I will.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Art, this is Bruce in Peoria.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bruce.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I heard Peoria is having some pretty rough weather.
unidentified		Yeah, there's flooding all along in the Rome area, which is about, oh, 10 miles north of Peoria.
unidentified		It's basically about a mile stretch is where it's really bad along the Illinois River.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, the weather in this country is worsening by the hour, it seems Like.
		I've never seen a deterioration like we've had recently.
		It's really rough.
unidentified		I know it.
		The art I wanted to tell you about my, oh, I don't know if you call it an entity or spaceman or lizard man.
		I really don't know because I don't believe in that stuff normally.
		But my wife had been telling me about her hearing the back door open and then, you know, kind of the usual thing, hearing footsteps and the door would close.
		And she was thinking it was me coming home because I work a third shift.
		And this happened quite a few times.
		And I tell her, no, you're just dreaming.
		You probably woke up and you dreamt it and you just thought that you actually heard that thing.
		But I guess it's true.
		I don't know.
		What happened to me is no one's going to believe what happened to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the show, we might.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's hear it.
unidentified		Well, I was at home, and this is during the day, my wife was at work, and so the same thing happened.
		I heard the back door open up, and I heard the footsteps, and I thought, well, maybe it was my wife coming home from work.
		And then I never saw anything.
		I looked down the hallway, didn't see anything.
		And a few minutes later, I heard, boo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boo?
unidentified		Boo.
		I don't know if any of your listeners ever had a ghost say boo to them before.
		And it seems silly, but it just scared me out of my wits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course it did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying for sure there was nobody physically there.
unidentified		No, there was no one there.
		But I did hear this guy.
		I heard the door slam.
		I heard the footsteps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd have a gun in my hand at that point.
		Oh, don't laugh.
		I'm not kidding.
		I'd have a gun in my hand.
unidentified		Well, you know, it was broad daylight.
		We're in a real quiet neighborhood.
		And so I didn't think too much of it, but I didn't know ghosts actually did say boo.
		I mean, if it was a ghost, I don't know what it was, to tell you the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't like that at all.
unidentified		Yeah, and then the only thing we've heard since then is my wife, she was in the bedroom at night when I was at work again, and she heard the name, well, we don't know about the name or what it was, but it was Marouk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Marook?
unidentified		Yeah, it just, she said she just heard it, you know, and just heard that name Marouk, and then that was all we've heard since then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this a house or an apartment?
unidentified		It's in our house.
unidentified		It's a house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you had this house?
unidentified		About five years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Five years.
unidentified		And this occurrence has only been in about the past year.
		It happened to my wife quite, I'd say probably ten times.
		So you might have a haunted house.
		I hope not.
		I don't know.
		Like I said, I always listen to your show before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I will say this.
		If I survived after death and I was here on earth and I was a poltergeist or a ghost, you know, but a spirit, and I had the ability, I might sneak up on somebody and say, boo!
		I mean, you know, playfully, and just watch them jump out of their skin.
unidentified		Well, I sure did.
unidentified		Like I said, it might sound silly, but it just, it scared me out of my wits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course it did.
		Well, I don't know what to tell you.
		Keep in touch, and I wish I could remember the model number of that bug zapper.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You remember that story?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There might be a way to trap this thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, anyway, stay in touch.
unidentified		Okay, thanks, Arch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		I don't know what I'd do if I'd.
		I would not like that.
		I would not like that at all.
		And I doubt that I would conclude it was a ghost.
		I think I would conclude it was an intruder.
		Prussia, if there's nobody actually there, then can you imagine over your shoulder, right in the same room, something saying boo to you?
		I don't know.
		It'd be a for-sale sign out there.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Ari.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Barbara from Covington, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Barbara.
unidentified		I'm thrilled to get through to you.
		I've listened to your show for a long time.
		My dilemma is probably not the normal thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the home of the Abbey Normal.
unidentified		Well, I have just gone through one year of court battles with my husband being falsely accused of sexually molesting a young girl next door.
		And we have both passed polygraph tests.
		We have paid.
		In fact, it was just, it came right down to the court date, which was last Thursday.
		And they dismissed it from court just hours before it went to trial because they knew that there was no court case, but it was if they were financially trying to get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much did it end up costing you?
unidentified		$21,000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		$21,000.
		Now, let me tell you what I think should happen.
		I think that when somebody brings charges like this, and then they either dismiss or lose, financial burden should be on them, not you for having to defend yourself.
		And that's a change we need in our civil liability laws in this country.
		Losers pay.
		And if we had that, I don't think we'd have so damn many frivolous, and frivolous is not a word I'm sure that you'd be comfortable with, lawsuits filed.
		Loser pays, simply put, loser pays.
unidentified		That is my question to you.
		Do you have any sources?
		I am a letter writer, and I am prepared to write to anyone and everyone that I can to try and get legislature changed so that this will never happen to another person again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, begin, thank you, by contacting your state representatives.
		It's something that can be done, I believe, at the state level to begin with.
		Then it may have to travel up the courts.
		But I've thought this for a very long time.
		You see, our civil system can be used to literally terrorize somebody financially.
		Because you can charge anybody just about with anything, and they are then, of course, forced to defend themselves unless they are without means, and then, of course, somebody of a lesser quality will be appointed to defend them.
		No, I think that the loser in these kinds of things ought to have to pay.
		And then if you're really sure you've got a civil case of harm, you're going to bring a case, if you're really sure.
		But if you're not sure, or if it is frivolous in some manner, then you're not going to bring it because if you lose, you're going to have to cough up the money.
		And there is a case of somebody, what, having to cough up $21,000, which for the average person would force them to do exactly what she's doing, and that is put their house on the market, and it would ruin their lives.
		Now, you all think about it out there.
		Isn't that a good idea?
		Sure, bring a case, but if you lose and the person is declared to be innocent, then you pay.
		Instead of just hoping you get a judgment, if you don't, well, you terrorize them with legal fees.
		It does not seem fair to me.
		And our justice system is about, supposed to be about being fair, right?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, I'm Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Survey says people love it, and I think you will too.
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		We don't sit here and bash for hours on end.
		Instead, we explore interesting, intriguing, strange, even bizarre topics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what, it's a lot of fun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's different, and it's right here in the middle of the night.
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		That's this weekend on Dreamland.
		This is Art Bell.
		If human beings only use a small portion of our brains, what makes us think we know it all?
		Just because we can't prove it yet does not mean it may not be so.
		dreamland I keep hearing your concerns about my family.
		Oh, I thought you were giving me this.
		Consciously, if I was walking in with you, I would worry about the word about me.
		I'm having fun, fun.
		Calton flowers on the lawn.
		That don't bother me at all.
		Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		That's 702-727-1295.
		First time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seemingly from beyond the grave, here I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It really is, you have no idea how hard it is to fight news that you are dead.
unidentified		I keep getting calls now every day, more and more of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Panicked calls from my affiliates.
		Is Art dead?
		I mean, I answer some of them myself.
		Hi.
		Hi, is Art Bell there?
		Is Art Bell okay?
		Has Art Bell died?
		And I explain to them carefully as I can.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't seem to be.
		Oh, thank goodness, they'll say.
		County art, a few years ago while fly fishing near Mammoth Lakes, a strange thing happened.
		There was a great hatch, and bugs were everywhere on the water.
		The fish were aggressively feeding.
		And all at once, the fish stopped feeding.
		Bugs were still everywhere.
		Conditions were perfect, but no fish.
		So finally, I waded to shore, sat on a rock, and everything began to shake.
		It was a moderate earthquake.
		I've always wondered if the fish knew that it was going to happen.
		Weird.
		Steve in Bakersfield.
		Oh, sure, Steve.
		I am convinced of it.
		Sure, the fish knew what was going to happen.
		And I think at one time, we knew too.
		I think that the more sensitive out there still know.
		And again, I circle back to the Washington Post article in today's Washington Post entitled Comically, I think, Scientists Have a Hunch, Intuition Makes Sense.
		And they go into a long scientific explanation of why they think, actually have a hunch, scientists, that intuition makes sense.
		I mean, they're suddenly coming around to Some beginning of an understanding that human intuition is a real force.
		And I think that to a large degree it has been conditioned out of us by modern life.
		But we know.
		Those who are more sensitive out there, that's how you make decisions.
		Your intuition, your inner feeling, it goes to work and tells you what to do.
		Now, a lot of times you ignore it, but the smart ones learn how to listen, and people regard them as sensitives or psychics or whatever you want to call it.
		I think we all have that power, or had it.
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		That's all they grow, and therefore they give you the best deal in America.
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		And because they're a flower farm, and because there's no middle guys, no store, not a bunch of employees, they cut you a wholesale amount of flowers.
		And when you see how big that is, you'll be angry at everybody else's flower deal, and you'll realize what a rip all these other deals are.
		It's that much better, really.
		They're shipped out next day by FedEx to the female of your choice, along with a card from you, very personal, very emotional, with your message and name at the bottom.
		It's really a good deal.
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		Try it for birthdays, anniversaries, or if you have the guts, no reason at all.
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		It may depend.
		I've been watching the market.
		You know, Greenspan is really something.
		Can you imagine having the power to simply utter some words and have the stock market fall 100 points?
		There may be, said he, irrational exuberance in the market.
unidentified		Boom down 100 points.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, even though inflation is under control, there may be a point at which we will raise interest rates.
unidentified		70 points.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just words.
unidentified		Whoosh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Scott from Wichita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wichita, yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KFH country.
unidentified		You've got best station going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I'm glad that you're number one here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, way out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just killing them in Wichita.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		And if I had anything to do about it, you're welcome.
		Thank you.
		Hey, I got a suggestion for maybe a feature show that I think would be kind of neat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		You're a ham operator.
		I am.
		And that is something I'm kind of interested in.
		I don't know how true this is.
		This is kind of what I think I've heard in the past.
		But during the Apollo missions, weren't there a lot of ham operators listening to some of their transmissions?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there were.
unidentified		Wouldn't that be a neat show?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, there are transcripts going around of things that were supposedly recorded and said by the Apollo astronauts.
		And I've never heard any actual audio recordings.
		So I'm reserving judgment on whether any of that is true.
unidentified		Well, see, because, you know, I've heard some programs of some of the astronauts seeing funny little things out there, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen, all kinds of lines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, my God, look at that.
unidentified		Yeah, you know, because if by some chance somebody out there who is a formal ham operator luckily might have that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, look.
		Okay, I'm with you.
		Thank you.
		If there's anybody out there who has actual audio recordings of any of that, you know I would like to lay my hands on them.
		Now, I've seen transcripts.
		They can be cooked.
		I mean, just like they cooked up my death announcement, right?
		You can cook up anything on the internet, so you've got to be aware of that.
		But actual audio recordings, now that'd be a horse of a different color, and I would love to get my hands on those.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Hey.
		Hi.
		Is this for the Art Bell show?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I was just calling because he was talking about the earthquake and intuition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sneak up on your phone and speak up real loud.
unidentified		Okay, is that better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, is that better?
		Yes.
		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Seattle, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seattle, and you've never called before?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But something inside of you said, I should call tonight.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Intuition.
unidentified		You're very funny.
unidentified		Okay, I'm calling because my roommate knew that the big earthquake that hit Seattle the last time in the summer, he knew two weeks beforehand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did he say?
unidentified		He just said one day, Just so you know, there's going to be an earthquake.
		And so we stocked up on water and everything.
		And we were just, we actually, I almost thought maybe it wasn't going to happen because it was two weeks ahead of time.
		But then it eventually hit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, you know how he could really freak you out?
		You could say, you know, sometime in the next couple of weeks, you're going to get hit by a truck.
		Can you imagine that?
		After what he already told you, wouldn't that be awful?
unidentified		I don't know if you'd tell me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you stay home if he said something like that?
unidentified		Yeah, I probably would.
unidentified		Actually, he knew when we were going to get in a motorcycle accident, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps your boyfriend should be tested like Travolta in Phenomena.
unidentified		Oh, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's send him to Berkeley and pull them apart and see what makes them tips.
unidentified		Yeah, but I'm a full believer in intuition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, apparently scientists are too.
		Now, there is this big article in the Washington Post that all of a sudden scientists are saying, well, maybe there is something to intuition.
		That's something for science to say because they generally will only declare something science when it is consistently repeatable.
unidentified		Right?
unidentified		You got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thanks.
unidentified		Can I tell you one weird thing, too, though?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A weird thing?
unidentified		They're finding, yeah, in Seattle they found just recently two different dogs that have been killed and skinned in Seattle.
		Wow.
		And that just freaks me out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Skinned?
unidentified		Yeah, from head to feet.
unidentified		So I just wanted to say if anybody in Seattle knows anything about it, you can help me in anxiety because it really freaks me out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for the call.
		Who would do a thing like that?
		Who would do a thing like that?
		Well, you know, I understand that it is irrational, but there's been a little bit of that going on here.
		People cutting off cats' tails, that kind of thing.
		And I know that it's irrational because people call it and say, well, they're just animals.
		And I know there are people out there killing people.
		But I tell you, if I caught somebody doing that to an animal, cutting its tail off or killing or skinning a dog alive or something like that, I'd probably go to jail because I'd probably do them in on the spot.
		I really think I would.
		And that's irrational because I know people come and say they're just animals.
		I don't understand how human beings can treat animals that way.
		To me, that's so sick that a person that's sick doesn't belong walking around.
		Just like the people that kill people for no reason.
		They don't belong walking around on the street either.
		That's, for my taste, that's too much irreverence for life.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Art.
		Yes.
		This is Mike from Portland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Mike.
unidentified		You know that story you did a while back with the chip, the computer chip they put in your, behind your visual optic nerve or whatever?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean the soul catcher?
unidentified		Yeah, that's it.
		Yeah.
		Well, when I get my clone, I'm going to have myself downloaded.
		So I'll have a few more years to go.
		How's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say that it would be murder.
		Because you're the one dying.
		Yeah, that's why I died.
unidentified		My chip goes into him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but at the moment that you take your mind and download it to the clone's mind, wiping the clone's mind out, you have murdered that clone.
unidentified		I thought it was going to be like a fountain of youth.
unidentified		Well, it would be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He would never be expecting that.
		But it would be at the clone's expense.
		it'd be more like a son you know he'd never be exactly like me as far as age goes so each time i I mean, you'd wake up with a brand new body, but you'd be doing it at the expense of the mind of, and then probably the soul of, the clone.
		These are the things that we are going to be bumping into with this whole cloning thing.
unidentified		Yeah, you've got to put into account that they're going to have feelings too.
unidentified		They're going to be people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what I have gathered from my audience, which is an honest audience, I think a lot more honest than many of them out there, is that people would do exactly as you're suggesting to hell with what's right and wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I can get me a new body, I'm going for it.
unidentified		Well, people with money, they ain't going to think about anything else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're really exactly right, and I appreciate your honesty.
		Maybe it's not right, but it's honest.
		And we all know that facing a decrepit, deteriorating old age, given the opportunity to have brands spanking new bodies, especially knowing what you know now, people are going to take that opportunity.
		Rather than die, they're just going to do it because it's the nature of humanity.
		So it really lays out a lot of very basic, important questions about cloning.
		But I mean, this genie, folks, is out of the bottle.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yes, good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Craig in Old Town, Maine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Old Town, Maine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is that?
unidentified		You wouldn't have to know where Bangor is, would you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		It's about 12 miles just to the north of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yep.
		I'm actually calling a couple things.
		First of all, I'm a Gulf War vet, and one of the things I've had problems with is trying just to get a hold of my medical records.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		I've tried several.
unidentified		I almost couldn't get into college several years ago because I couldn't even get my shot records.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You couldn't even get your shot records?
unidentified		Yep.
		They finally gave them to me after about three months of trying.
		But I still haven't, this is over five years.
		I haven't been able to get anything from my medical records except that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you find anything that was particularly disturbing, I'm curious?
unidentified		Nope.
unidentified		The only thing that would disturb me is just before I got out, I was told never to give blood again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		now, see, that would disturb me greatly.
		That's very disturbing.
		Never give blood again.
		And at that point, I would imagine that you would say something like, why?
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and so on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you said why, and what did they say?
unidentified		They just said because of the pills and to counteract the possibility or build up your resistance to chemical nerve agents, said there's a possibility of lingering side effects.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lingering side effects that should cause you never to give blood again.
		I would have a lot of questions about that.
		A lot of Gulf War vets were told the same thing.
unidentified		That's the question I've had.
unidentified		Like I said, over five years, I've requested my medical records numerous times, and I haven't been able to get them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy macro.
unidentified		But so if you have a, if you said you're probably next week, you're going to have a show on that.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you surprised that two-thirds of the records of Gulf War exposure are, well, seem to be missing?
unidentified		No, not now.
		You know, I, up to about a year ago, was thinking this was some kind of mass hypochondria.
		But with all the things that have come out, particularly about the possibility of no one thought of a biological contaminant, that the troops, like I did, I was an infantryman in this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I said earlier tonight, all the officials commenting on this only talk about, very carefully, only speak about gas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't talk about biologicals.
unidentified		Well, I think that's the other scary thing is they don't want to admit the troops on the ground had no defense against biological weapons.
unidentified		The normal NBC gear, your mop suit and whatnot, can't defend against that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, and I think it was used.
		That's just my opinion.
		And I went through this earlier.
		I mean, we all know what Saddam is like.
		He'll have relatives shot in the head.
unidentified		Well, this is a guy who basically got to power because he was nothing more than what we'd consider a mafia hit me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A murderer.
		Yeah, that's absolutely right.
		And so at a national level, he was getting his butt kicked and backed into the corner.
		He knew he was losing.
		If he had biologicals, would he use them?
		The answer is, if you look at his personality, hell yes, he'd use them.
unidentified		Oh, did he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He probably did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, he did.
unidentified		The other thing I wanted to comment is you're talking about the sheep earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I was thinking about this and the frogs they have in Minnesota.
unidentified		Maybe this is part of the quickening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sheep, frogs, bugs, all deformed, fish.
unidentified		Yes.
		I was thinking, you know, maybe God has finally fed up with us and has had enough.
		And last comment, you said you're going to write a book on this?
		On the quickening?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have written a book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Where can I get it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can't yet.
unidentified		Ah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's, as a matter of fact, just going to the printer.
		So what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask everybody, please, please, do not, my publisher is going nuts all day long with phone calls, do not call.
		When that book becomes available, I will say so.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Hey, Art, love the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Take care.
		I will tell you when that time comes.
		And a good guess is going to be between the first and the second week of April.
		It's just about March, right?
		So, you know, about a month, a little over a month from now, the book will be out.
		So patience, patience, patience.
		I probably never should have said anything, but I'm really not good at keeping secrets.
		I don't like secrets.
		And it just bubbled out of me.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Is this Art?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm the only one here.
unidentified		Are you kidding me?
unidentified		There's no screen or nothing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, this is Art.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
unidentified		It drives me insane when people call up and ask for Art Bell when they know it's not screened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they don't know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've been calling other talk shows, and they get screened into the dirt, and so they're used to it.
unidentified		Well, I'd really like to send a message to Whitney Houston.
		Oh, yeah?
		Dump Bobby Brown, and I'd love to clone her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, she is something else.
unidentified		She's a babe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're absolutely right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really like her.
unidentified		But I would not like to clone them myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you must not have much of an opinion of yourself then.
unidentified		No, actually, I really don't.
		And every time I look in the mirror, I get disgusted at myself.
		But that's beside the point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That bad, huh?
unidentified		Well, it can be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are you what the average person would look at you and go, oh, ugly?
unidentified		No, actually, I'm extremely handsome, blonde hair, blue eyes, but I really don't think I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think you are?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, ugly, you mean?
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think you're ugly.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then why are you revolted when you look in the mirror?
unidentified		Well, I am revolted because I'm alone.
		And Shannon Dorothy?
		Yes?
		She's ugly.
		Well, she's handy.
		She has an ugly personality.
		Otherwise, she would be very good looking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that's the way I look at her.
		I've got a photograph of her here.
		It never talks.
		It never gives me lip.
		It never says anything to me.
		It just sits there looking really nice.
		And, you know, this was, I think, when she was like about 19 or 20.
		Boy, did she have a baby, beautiful face.
		Oh, very beautiful.
		Man, oh, man.
		But yeah, you know, I know.
		I talk to a lot of industry inside people, and they say that she's got, she's really foul-tempered.
		You know, a brat.
		That's what they say.
		I don't know.
		Maybe, I mean, maybe she's all right.
unidentified		Well, I couldn't imagine living with her, but again, Wendy Houston, I'm in love with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
unidentified		And dumb Bobby Brown.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		It's always hard, you know, when you're really attached to somebody in the media and they suddenly get married.
		You have this sense of betrayal.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, turn my radio down.
unidentified		This is George, Minneapolis, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, George.
unidentified		Hi.
		One thing that I was calling to let other people know, we have a strange thing.
		I'm nervous.
		going on here in Minnesota, we have an individual or two individuals going around in Isani County, and they're abducting dogs and killing them and then bringing them back to the people's property so the owners and stuff find it.
		And there was a radio show on...
		For about three months.
		And they have a sheriff's department out there on the radio talking about it where callers and stuff were calling in.
		And that sheriff said the worst thing they can do to these people, they might be able to get them with a misdemeanor or a gross misdemeanor.
		And the neighbors and stuff around the area are almost getting to the point of vigilante.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I said it earlier, and I really mean it.
		I'd be in jail or I'd be up for murder because if I caught someone doing something like that, I'd probably, and I know it's irrational, but I'd probably on the spot take their life and go to jail and then be charged with murder.
		The sick, sick, sick, sick, those are really sick people, and I think they ought not to be walking around.
		And if it was me they met up with when they were doing one of these deeds, they wouldn't be walking around anymore.
		All right, we're going to break here at the top of the hour, and we'll come back and do more of whatever it is you want to do.
		It's called Open Lines.
		This is the American CBC Network.
unidentified		This is the American CBC Network.
		You're listening to Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Listeners west of the Rockies can call ART toll-free by dialing 1-800-618-8255.
		If you're east of the Rockies, the toll-free number is 800-825-5033.
		If you've never called ART before, you may use the first-time caller line at Area Code 702-727-1222.
		And the wildcard line is Area Code 702-727-1295.
		When you get through, let it ring, and ART will answer your call in order on the air.
		This is the CBC Radio Network.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Call Art Bell, toll-free.
		West of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
		1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033.
		1-800-825-5033.
		This is the CBC Radio Network.
		It is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		I'm Mark Bell.
		And it is great to be here.
		We're doing nothing much of anything and a lot of just about whatever you want to do, open lines, in other words, tonight, tomorrow night.
		It'll be Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald, who is a geneticist, a Jesuit priest, and a bioethicist.
		A combination more easily struck, I think, in the California lottery.
		Anyway, he'd be the right guy for sure to talk about cloning, and that's exactly what we'll talk to him about tomorrow night.
		Tonight, anything you want to do, the weird, the strange, the unusual, that which nearly nobody else will do, I will.
		Somebody just sent me a fax that says, Dear Art, please finish the following sentence.
		If I was a dictator, I would...
		That's a pretty good question.
		And I really don't know how I would answer it.
		Especially if I were to answer honestly.
		If I was a dictator, I would what?
unidentified		Huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we'll have the audience answer that.
		Maybe we'll do an hour of...
		How about a half hour?
		Well, we'll see how it goes.
		All right.
		Any line, any line at all, any line you can get through on of all the telephone lines I've got here, anybody, all I want you to do is call up and say, if I was a dictator, I'd and then finish that sentence, and then you're off the air.
		Tell me where you're calling from.
		Say, if I was a dictator, I'd and then finish the sentence for me.
		Otherwise, we're talking about Mammoth Lakes rocking and rolling again there, and one day there's going to be a volcano.
		The weather in Hawaii, totally odd, and everywhere else for that matter.
		100 mile an hour winds on the big island.
		Hailstorms.
		High winds in Michigan throughout into Pennsylvania, very high winds, terrible weather all over the country.
		Flooding near Peoria.
		It's obviously worsening.
		A sheep has appeared with a leg growing out of its head.
		Disgusting.
		To go along with my eight-legged sheep that I've got on the website.
		There's a Washington Post article this morning entitled, Scientists Have a Hunch that Intuition Makes Sense.
		That's the headline.
		And they actually are investigating scientifically intuition.
		It's like they're just discovering that there might really be something to it.
		I think it's been just about bred out of us, frankly.
		So, you know, we're talking about all kinds of things here and whatever you want.
		The chupacabra story is a big one.
		I'm not mentioning the television station, but the reporter at it, very nice guy, is sending me a videotape of the chupacabra.
		And I'll take a still from that if I can and get it up on the internet for you.
		So that should be arriving Saturday.
		I'm sure I'll have it on the net.
		If it gets here on Saturday, it might not get here till Monday.
		But if it does, I'll have it up by Dreamland time.
		That story sounds like it's true.
		And once again, I am not dead.
		There is a big, big article circulating out there on the internet saying that Art Bell is dead.
		I'm not dead.
		I've been getting calls from my affiliates saying, is Art Bell dead?
		And here is an email I got earlier.
		How would you have answered this?
		Hi, Art.
		Rumor has it you're dead.
		Is this true?
		If I don't hear from you, I'll have to assume it is.
		A tragic loss.
		If you're not dead, thanks for your reply.
		Signed, Scott.
		I didn't answer it, so Scott probably figures I'm dead.
		The next time I think somebody asks me, I'm going to say yes, but I have arisen.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Yes, I. Now, you've got to play the game here.
		If I was a dictator.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		If I was a dictator, for one, well, I'd get rid of all pedophiles.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gone, huh?
		Now, you begin to get the spirit of this.
		You've got to start out by saying, if I was a dictator, and then finish it off for me.
		Tell me where you're calling from.
		Then say, if I was a dictator, east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		How you doing, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I'm fine, sir, but you didn't play the game.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now I give you one more chance.
unidentified		All right.
		If I was a dictator, I would put very much research into disease, attempting to cure diseases and trying to save the race in general.
		All right, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'd buy that one.
		People are always saying, and I would save mankind, and I would dictate that all people hold hands and have flowers in their hair, and everybody would get along if I was a dictator.
		Come on.
		You can do better than that.
		We're talking about ruthless dictatorial power here.
		Now, again, let me try it again.
		When I answer the line, you're supposed to say, if I was a dictator, and then finish that sentence.
		We'll try again.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
		CFR, Trilateral Commission.
		Building for this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all my friends.
unidentified		So what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		If I was a dictator, I would take the energy spin in sports activities across the United States and put it into cleaning up various things like drugs and the environment and the normal good stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you mean you'd take people like the Dallas Cowboys and you'd send them out to clean up the drugs in America?
		Call toll-free, 1-800-618-8255.
		Mike, you just committed the sin that we have.
		You're not allowed to give your last name on the air here.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're just your Mike.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, Mike?
unidentified		Creep Corps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where's that?
unidentified		That's just about five miles from Peakin, Illinois.
		Oh, okay.
		Are you done?
		I see you're alive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would seem so.
unidentified		It would seem so.
		What I was getting at, I heard earlier you were talking about religion and everything else.
		Have you read the book Black Elk?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
		It's about a medicine Indian man who lived back 1800s.
		Need to read it sometime if you get a chance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why is it good?
unidentified		Well, he had some visions when he was young, about nine years old, about the death of the nation, breaking up the hoop.
unidentified		And it looks like we did a pretty good job of breaking their hoop, didn't we?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, I'm thinking about our own hoop right now.
		You'll see, you didn't play the game either.
		Let me try once more.
		Just one more time here.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Tom from Terre Haudeneat, Indiana.
unidentified		Yeah, how are you tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine, Tom.
unidentified		Glad to hear you're feeling better.
unidentified		sound much better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, I'm...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Weren't you going to tell me what you would do if you were a dictator?
unidentified		Pardon me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Weren't you going to tell me what you would do if you were a dictator?
unidentified		What I would do?
		Yep.
		Well, I don't know what I'd do.
		Really, I don't.
		I don't think I'd want to be a dictator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's not the question.
unidentified		What I would do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		You're a dictator, whether you like it or not.
		You've got a crown.
		Your every word is everybody's command.
		All you've got to do is speak, and it will be so.
unidentified		Well, I don't know.
unidentified		I'll probably take everybody out and shoot them all and sit up on my throne and enjoy the rest of my life, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Lennon on the line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, all right.
		By our dictators?
		Yes.
		I'd probably eliminate all the people that do cruelty to animals.
		I don't know how I'd eliminate them, but it upsets me.
		I don't want to start crying here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Liquefy them, that's how.
		You have them liquefied with prejudice.
		Liquefied with prejudice.
		Anybody'd be cruel to animals.
		Come on now, you're getting in the spirit of it here.
		I want fast calls, folks.
		If I were a dictator...
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		If I were dictator, Art, I would probably have to say that I would make all information that basically can only be found on your show mainstream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It might be a more fun world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		If I were a dictator, I would ban commercials that insult your intelligence and waste time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would remove an awful lot of what's on the air, wouldn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		If I was a dictator, I'd rule an army of Chupacabras.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, the army of Chupacabras would probably rule you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		If I was a dictator, I'd hang around Tom and Mary Tater.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		I'm calling from Duluth, Massa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Duluth.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you were a dictator from Duluth?
unidentified		If I was, I'd get rid of the Supreme Court, first of all.
unidentified		Whoosh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An entire branch of government?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gone?
unidentified		Whoosh.
		That's our modern God.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		If I were a dictator, I would decree that all national interests shall come second to the human population dilemma, which shall be foremost among all issues until we have a firm handle on the problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, those are just words, but as a dictator, what would you actually do about the population problem?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come on, let's hear it.
unidentified		It's a difficult issue, and we need a lot of people working on it.
unidentified		Oh, come on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound like a problem.
unidentified		You sound like Phil Clinton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound like an elected Clinton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me a dictator's view of how you would handle population.
unidentified		Well, there is the way China has dealt with it.
unidentified		Perhaps people have reacted badly to the way the Chinese chose to handle the situation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're still doing Clinton.
unidentified		I would fool as many good minds as I could.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're doing a Clinton.
unidentified		Come on.
unidentified		It's not a Clinton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's the way...
		All right, you're no dictator.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
		Art Bell.
		Bully Cow, first time caller.
		Wow.
		Ed from Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Not bad.
		If I were a dictator, I would go ahead and legalize marijuana and use the tax off it to get us out of deficit.
		On top of that, I'd go into Congress, get rid of everybody in there, start a new Queen's Late, keep Mr. Clinton in there.
		I don't think he's really doing too bad of a job.
		I believe there's a lot of people working now.
		Let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he'd just be a figurehead to you, right?
unidentified		True, true.
		All right.
		And then on top of this, this new law they got, this CDL, what a joke.
		Completely get rid of that.
		Start over with something that has a little more sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, thank you.
		Of course, that would be to you.
		It's subjective, right?
		Well, but you're the dictator.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hey, Eric.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
unidentified		Now, if I were a dictator, I would have 10-minute trials, more 10-minute trials, and 15-minute hangings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		10-minute trials and 15-minute hangings?
unidentified		Yes, we would just eliminate the, you know, all the lawyers and everything, get rid of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine the Simpson trial in 10 minutes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would have been cool.
unidentified		Well, you know, that's the problem.
unidentified		You got these guys who get convicted or get arrested, and then they don't even go to trial for months or even years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ten-minute trials.
		Well, that, yeah, all right, thank you.
		There is a practical idea.
		Ten-minute trials and 15-minute hangings.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		If I were a dictator, I would eliminate all of the criminals that are violent and especially those that are waiting on death row.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Liquidate them immediately.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And I would also curb population and the entire world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How would you curb population?
unidentified		It would be by dictatorship.
		You would have no children if you were lesser intelligence, or you would have one or two.
		It has to come eventually, anyways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, children, if you are of lesser intelligence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there would have to be an IQ test, right?
unidentified		Yes, and I would eliminate all of the insane in the asylum school.
		The insane.
		Which is just as bad as a prison.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		You know, when you get right down to it in society, it is a truism that women are far crueler and would make more harsh dictators than men.
		And if you doubt that, you just keep listening.
		I mean, do you hear what she would do?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yes, if I was dictator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, where are you, by the way?
unidentified		In Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you were a dictator.
unidentified		I would eliminate all the privileges that prisoners have and just give them bread and water twice a day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about color TV?
unidentified		None of that.
		Oh, boy.
		They'd be stuck in their cells 24 hours a day and eat bread and water.
		They wouldn't have commissary, TV, recreation, art classes, college classes, or anything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My God, you'd make it a real prison.
unidentified		Because they're supposed to be punished, not get a college education.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, see, you know, why we should be asking ourselves, why would it take a dictator to do that, you know?
		Only a democracy or a representative democracy republic like we are gives colored TVs in rec rooms.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		If I was a dictator, I would have GC and Will and the supercover tunnels.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello, Ard Bale.
unidentified		Yes.
		If I were a dictator, if I were a dictator, what I would do is I would look into, I would analyze all of the races, and I would take into the ones to distinguish which one had godlike qualities, and those that distributed ungodlike qualities, I would first of all put them in check, because there seem to be a group of people on the face of the earth that distributes no compassion toward others.
		They're selfish.
		They want to rule at any cost.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let us define put them in check.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, put them in check?
unidentified		First of all, if I was dictator, I would have command of nuclear weapons that would get their respect.
		Oh, okay.
		Because that's all that these people seem to understand is violence.
		Because I hear some of them call tonight and say, what all They would do to some people in a justice system who has proven it's not fair and it's so faulty, it's a shame that half of the people in there are probably in there under false pretense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a new line of thinking: nuclear weapons not for a foreign use, but for domestic use.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nuclear weapons for domestic policy enforcement.
		That really is new.
		I'm going to have to think about that.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hey, Art.
		If I were a dictator, I would take care of violent criminals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a dictator.
unidentified		I have a specific.
		I would take a first-time violent offender, such as a rapist or a murderer, and I would make them view the execution of their own clone and tell them it's a preview of what's coming if they do that again.
		Cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
		In other words, there would be a clone, probably one with a very limited brain, and he would execute them in front of their eyes so they would know what was coming.
		But would that be fair to the clone?
		Oh, this clone thing is going to be a problem.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Morning, Art.
		This is Mike Collins from Willis, California.
		Yes.
		And if I were a dictator, I would force, upon pain of death, all people to live in peace.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Rodney King of dictators.
		You will all get along, or else.
		And again, we reference the domestic use of nuclear devices.
		Eastern Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Well, I suppose if I was a dictator, I would probably eliminate the IRS, the Federal Reserve, go back into gold standards, require people for population control to pass an economic mean standard and an intelligence test.
		That's just to start with.
		Head on the phone thing?
		Oh, maybe tonight.
		You really great-looking women with intelligence and personality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, see, if you're a dictator, you could do that and have them, of course, at your beck and call.
		First-time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, I'm Mike from Evansville, and if I were a dictator, I would require all families, be they divorced or married, common law, to spend a bare minimum of one hour with their children or themselves at a family meal each day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or what?
unidentified		Or what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Double pain of death, of course.
unidentified		Pain of death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, family values.
		First-time callers call area 702-727-1222.
		Zap, first-time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, all right.
		Hello.
		Hi, this is Bob in Dallas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bob.
unidentified		And if I were a dictator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Bob.
unidentified		I'd dictate it in the morning all over the land.
unidentified		Oh, thank you, Bob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, if I was a dictator, I'd get rid of all these other dictators who keep calling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, with prejudice, right?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		This is Jim from Austin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim from Austin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I was a dictator, I would pass a law that says, You just speak and it shall be done.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		I would say that anyone who wants a divorce, whoever wins the case, has to pay all expenses, and the other person gets to come and go whenever they want.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think he's had a bad experience.
		What do you folks think?
		This is CBC.
unidentified		CBC.
		This is TRN and CBC, Talk Radio Network and Chancellor Broadcasting Company, home of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Thank you.
		Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		That's 702-727-1295.
		First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		Now, here again, Art Bell.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've heard from the dictators.
		We'll go back to regular calls now, I guess.
		Dear Art, from the Home Office in Alhambra, California, the top 10 societal impacts of the clone age.
		1.
		Paranoia grows.
		Is that fella behind me a clone?
		2.
		Out magazine stops outing gays and begins outing clones.
		3.
		The ACLU doubles its membership by admitting clones for civil rights movement.
		Health insurance companies require newborns to get clone insurance.
		Celebrity clone shops.
		Celebrity clone shops open in Beverly Hills so you can buy a copy of your favorite celebrity.
		No more stalking required.
		Radio City Rockets become absolutely identical.
		Minnesota Twins baseball team becomes the Minnesota Clones.
		New chapters of narcissists anonymous spring up everywhere.
		Deja vu becomes a constant everyday feature of life, and mirrors become obsolete.
		And here's somebody who says, if I were a dictator, I'd remove all the air conditioning in government buildings in Washington, D.C. Man, that would clear them out, wouldn't it?
		I've got an article Here, which is from the Contra Costa Times, entitled Chicks Turn the Tables with Field Guide to American Men.
		This is really, really lowbrow stuff.
		Chicks Turn the Tables with Field Guide to American Men.
		This is a guide to American men.
		She lists in it the diets, nest types, plumage, habitat, sexual displays, and mating calls of more than 50 of the most common species of men.
		We learn here about their foraging techniques, mating behavior, and every class from the pretentious serious theater man or corporate lawyer guy to the pathological Don Juan and bitter freeloading journalist is accompanied with an illustration displaying each man's characteristic markings.
		Oh, my God.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
		Hello, Ardell.
		Hi.
		First time I've ever called in, obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's why we have the first time caller line.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Austin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Austin?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, a lot of calls from Austin.
unidentified		Well, I'm a late-night person anyway.
		I listen to you every night.
		Been listening to you for, I guess, ever since this talk radio started on FM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yup.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big deal in Austin, let me tell you.
unidentified		Yeah, I've been really fascinated by your guests, and especially by, I guess, JC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		JC, you know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have not heard from JC since his big one-hour guest appearance on the program.
unidentified		Well, you know, I think that's what he needed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he was satiated.
unidentified		I guess so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And went away.
unidentified		One can only hope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or changed his ways and have seen the light or the darkness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
unidentified		Well, I know if I was dictator, I would make sure people like that didn't control our world.
		But what I would do actually...
		Oh, God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		He would push the button immediately.
unidentified		Oh, Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Love, God, or die.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've just begun to contemplate the use of domestic nuclear weapons for nuclear weapons for domestic policy enforcement.
unidentified		Hmm.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you called for a reason.
unidentified		Pardon?
unidentified		You could only use it one time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, field-grade nuke, you could take out neighborhoods.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, maybe big neighborhoods.
		Yeah, I'd just take the wipe out everything, because then you wouldn't have anything to look at.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To, or to dictate to.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Dictator is only as good as the amount of people that curved you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		So you can't, I guess, get too brutal.
		Hi, Art.
		The scientists in Japan have been studying the use of fish as earthquake sensors.
		I don't know how successful they were.
		By the way, if anyone asks if you're dead, you can reply that you have risen.
		Yeah, I'm doing that now.
		It's a good idea.
		The high winds and hail on the big island of Hawaii only affected that island.
		The other islands had high gusts, but not that bad, right?
		I would like to get some calls from the big island of Hawaii.
		How about that, folks?
		Kona, Hilo?
		How about it?
		West of the Rockies, call me from the Big Island.
		Are you on the Big Island?
		Let's hear from a few people there.
		I really would like to hear about this wind.
		I mean, there's no good reason why they wouldn't have that kind of...
		I mean, we are talking here about eternally perfect Hawaii, where they never have bad weather.
		Never!
		The worst that is suffered generally, or used to be in Hawaii, would be a middle-of-the-day rainstorm, you know?
		Sort of a tropical type rainstorm, and it rains like hell for a little while and stops, sun comes out, and it's paradise again.
		So I would like to hear from the big island.
		Would everybody on the west of the Rockies line hold off for a moment?
		If you're on the big island of Hawaii, call me now at 1-800-618-8255.
		I try to do this.
		It never works, but I'm going to try it.
		1-800-618-8255.
		People on the big island only.
		Wildcard line, you're on air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		Listen, if I were dictator, number one thing I would do would be a lottery once a year, not for money, but to allow a person to make a law.
		Then there would be another vote.
		The country would vote on whether his law was good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Law by lottery?
		Law by lottery.
		Well, that's not dictatorial, though.
		That's a sort of a dictatorial democracy sort of weird thing.
unidentified		True.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'd be better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, really, as a dictator, to hell with laws, you would just say the way it is, and it would be done.
unidentified		Well, how about all women must put the toilet seat up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There would be value in that.
unidentified		I think so, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There would be value in that.
		In homes, of course, only where males live.
		True.
		In homes where only females reside, they do whatever the heck they want.
unidentified		True.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, that seems fair to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		safe, got Air Force Base.
		Um, when I become dictator, Yeah.
		Biggest decree I pass down is first offense on any felonies, mandatory five years.
		Second offense, death.
		Plus, I bring back the War Department.
		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you wouldn't have a big problem with jails because the second offenders would be in the ground.
unidentified		Yeah, get rid of prison overcrowding and it'd be kind of a torrent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		It would.
		What do you think would happen if we did that?
		I mean, absolutely, ruthlessly, as he suggests, say first offense, felony, five years, second offense, no appeal, death.
		How would that affect the crime status?
		Well, eventually it would affect them very positively, wouldn't it?
		Very positively.
		And you could do that if you were a dictator, couldn't you?
		On my big island line, you're on the, are you on the big island of Hawaii?
unidentified		Yes, actually, my cousin and I are, but we're actually located in Sacramento at this point in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in Sacramento?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you don't qualify, sir.
		Thank you for the call.
		See, now I'm holding that line open for only people on the big island of Hawaii.
		The big island.
		Not Oahu.
		Not Maui, not Kauai, but the Big Island only.
		Narrow down to the Big Island.
		I want to talk to somebody about it.
		On the Big Island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Well, see?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hung up right away.
		The big island only.
		On the big island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Doohickey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, when somebody starts out the call with Doohickey, I know they're not on the big island.
		On my big island line, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, California may one day be a big island, but it isn't now, sir.
		You also don't qualify.
		Come on, just let me get a couple of calls from the big island, will you?
		Of Hawaii.
		I want to hear from somebody on the big island of Hawaii about the winds and hail and all the weird weather over there.
		So everybody else, stop calling.
		On my big island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you on the big island?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg your pardon?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where on the big island?
unidentified		Maui.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, you're not even smart enough to know that Maui is not the big island.
		So you're immediately disqualified as well.
		Not good liars.
		Maui is a separate island altogether.
		I'm talking about the island of Hawaii itself, the big one.
		On my big island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you on the big island?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You see, people do not follow instructions.
		This is why teachers are so frustrated.
		Write your name on the top line, they will say.
		30% of the people do it.
		The other 70% do something entirely different or nothing at all.
		What a frustrating life it must be.
		West of the Rockies, on the Big Island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you there?
		No?
		See, somebody else.
		Nothing better to do.
		All right, east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Mart.
		If I were a dictator, I would make the actor Jason Scott Lee be my undying love slave.
		And when I died, you would be my successor.
		And if you were a dictator, you would have anyone who calls and leaves their radio on automatically electrocuted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		I've been, all right, thank you.
		I've been telling this audience that women make better natural dictators than men.
		This is a fact that the world is, most of the dictators of the world, of course, have been men.
		But I believe in the quickening world in the future, they will be women, and they will make the great dictators of our time look like pussycats when women really come to power.
		They will be so brutal.
		They will redefine the word brutal.
		West of the Rockies, no, Big Island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Yes, still, Hilo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in Hilo?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're really in Hilo, Hawaii?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me something about Hilo.
unidentified		What's the wind?
unidentified		What's the rain?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quick here, quick.
		Another total fabrication job.
		Only from the Big Island.
		West of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
		And we're listening carefully to your voice so that, you know, when you tell your fib, we'll all know.
		We'll remember your voice.
		West of the Rockies on my Big Island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Oh, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are sorry.
		Mary's one of the sorriest callers I've had.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Dan from Fargo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Oh, fine.
		You know, all the cloning stuff, I enjoy the jokes, but I think some people seem to forget something pretty obvious.
		We have natural clones among us, tens of thousands.
		So like when the fellow is talking about putting to death someone's clone, that'd be like killing an identical twin.
		Identical twins are natural, you know, it's the same genetic.
		Oh boy, I'm tired.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it would be.
		It would be like putting to death an identical twin.
		Absolutely true.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, it's kind of funny.
		People forget.
		I know, it's like they're tickling them as sort of robots or something, but they wouldn't be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There really is a question, and that is, and I'm sincere when I ask this, if you were to say, if we cloned you, all right, from a little bit of your skin or a little bit of your blood or whatever yielded up the DNA that we needed, and we had an identical you, in every sense, every way, would you have a separate soul?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would your clone have a separate soul?
unidentified		Yeah, I would say yes, in the same way identical twins do, because, again, an identical twin, it's just that it was done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but an identical twin is an act of God.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A clone is an active man.
unidentified		True, but I don't think the person, if it was a person, it would be a person.
		Well, I still think that lamb is a lamb.
		I mean, the one that was created.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, whatever person, what soul an animal has, it's well, if an animal has a soul, that's why when you see the surveys, the national surveys, people are not very disturbed about the cloning of animals.
		They say that's okay.
		But like 87% or something like that are really freaked out over the cloning of humans.
		And it's because most people, most religious folk, don't really believe that animals have souls.
unidentified		Well, just going back to the cloning of a person, obviously it was done later in a person's life.
		Obviously, when nature clones, if you will, you know, they create an identical twin, it's done at the same time.
		If you cloned yourself, the person would be starting off X number of years behind you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's correct.
unidentified		And the other thing, too, is to remember is they've done extensive studies on identical twins.
		And even though they are the same genetic material, and in most cases, it's been a few weighted and separated, and they've studied both, even the ones who have grown up in the same households, they sometimes grow up with slightly different attitudes.
		They sometimes have slightly different preferences.
		Yes, they're so much the same, but they still have separate identities.
		A clone would still be a separate person, a separate soul, a separate identity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that remains to be seen when we begin cloning human beings.
		I wouldn't say that's an absolute.
		And that's not a religious view that I'm giving you.
		It's just that I don't know.
		I don't know that a clone would possess what we think of as a soul.
		Sure, maybe it would.
		But it would be an act of man, not an act of God.
		And if God is the one who sees to it from the great guff that the soul is inculcated into the body at whatever moment it is, and we are the ones doing the creation, then maybe they would be soulless beings.
unidentified		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me try my big island line again.
		I'm trying to get a call from the big island of Hawaii, and I'm asking everybody else not to call, and of course, nobody's paying any attention to that.
		The number is 1-800-618-8255, only if you're from the Big Island of Hawaii.
unidentified		Otherwise, don't call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let them get through.
		I want to talk to somebody on the Big Island.
		West of the Rockies, the Big Island line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, have you ever heard of the Shroud of Touring?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course I have, but I can't discuss it with you if you're not on the Big Island of Hawaii.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not, are you?
unidentified		No, I'm not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so this is a total misbehavior on your part.
unidentified		Don't you think we should clone Christ, though?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, who's to say there's DNA from Christ on the...
		Who's to say there is any DNA on the Shroud of Turin anyway?
		It's very controversial anyhow.
		Anyway, you shouldn't be on my line unless you're on Hawaii.
		Hello?
unidentified		Are you still taking calls from Hawaii?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to take calls from Hawaii, yeah.
unidentified		I'm from Kona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in Kona, Hawaii.
unidentified		Kona Coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kona Coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Finally.
unidentified		It only took me, like, what, 25 minutes?
		I turned the radio off.
		I was trying to get through and it kept being busy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, that's because there were all these clones calling from all over the place, lying and trying to say they're from Hawaii.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you are from Kona?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, we've had a lot of news reports about high winds and then hail in Hawaii.
unidentified		Well, you know it snows here, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um, I suppose up on the mountains.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what's it with this 100-mile-an-hour wind stuff?
unidentified		It's natural, Pacific winds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What Pacific winds?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I always heard Hawaii had gentle trade winds.
unidentified		Depending on where you live, on each island, or where you go.
		Like at the vacation spot, there are generally trade winds and everything.
		On each island, there's a desert spot, a garden spot for the tourists.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where the weather's really nice.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But then there's secret spots.
unidentified		Okay, as let's say, uh, like a real topiver spot in Ali is Paella.
		Uh-huh.
		And it's generally a windsipping spot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But on the other hand, if you're sitting up on top of Haleakala, it's going to be some pretty wild weather, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, it's very, very cold up there.
unidentified		I've got you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been up on Haleakala.
unidentified		It's really a heat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, listen, great hearing from you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for making my night.
unidentified		See you later.
unidentified		See you later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, if I were a dictator, what do you think I would have done with all those callers who weren't even paying attention to what I was trying to do?
unidentified		Huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shredded, that's what, with prejudice.
unidentified		Get it on, take the door, get it on.
		Get it on, take the door, get it on.
		Get it on.
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		And the wildcard line is Area Code 702-727-1295.
		When you get through, let it ring and ART will answer your call in order on the air.
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		I want you to even think about tomorrow We know it will last a long, long time You'll have a good time, baby, don't you worry And if you feel bound for
		that testimony Call our bell, toll-free west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255 1-800-618-8255 East of the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033 1-800-825-5033
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is the CBC Radio Network actually nearly always on the edge of out of control Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Marcel.
		Great to be with you.
		I've got financial news for you after the piano part.
unidentified		I've got financial news for you after the piano part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you listen to this guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get down on the gun.
unidentified		Woo!
unidentified		Get down on the gun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'll tell you, if I could play the piano like that, I wouldn't be talking.
		I love piano.
		Under the category of it figures, here we go.
		Art, I wanted to let you know that in this week's variety, here in Hollywood, Hollywood, if she could.
		Anyway, in Hollywood, they published the year's filming calendar, and one of the films to begin shooting in September is Chupacabra, Avalon Systems, film location San Juan, Puerto Rico.
		Executive producer, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		Thought you'd find it interesting, Mark.
		Mark sent that to me.
		So there you are.
		It figured a movie called Chupacabra, filmed in San Juan, it absolutely figured that should be something.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
		Hello.
		Yeah, Kelly.
		Hello, Bert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you've got your radio on, don't you?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an absolute no-no.
		I thought you knew that.
		Gotta turn your radio off.
unidentified		Is that better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's always better, you know?
unidentified		Yeah, I was gonna tell you about that.
unidentified		No hole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about it?
unidentified		Well, they're just the black hole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You okay, sir?
		I don't think he's.
		I don't think he's all right at all.
		I don't think he knew what he wanted to say or how to say it.
		Or if he did, he was incapable of it.
		Easter the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Art, it's an honor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hi.
unidentified		It's Tom from Elgin, Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Elgin, Illinois.
unidentified		Just on the outskirts of Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
unidentified		I always enjoy your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		W-L-S.
unidentified		Art, I want to tell you two quick things.
		Okay.
		Michael Eisner and Ted Turner are trying to buy up the world.
		Well, more power to them.
		And if the Chicago Tribune doesn't start spending more money on their baseball team, I'm ready to end my subscription to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You feel that strongly about baseball?
unidentified		Absolutely.
		I am a Cubs fan.
		I am a die-hard Cubs fan, and God knows we've been dying for the last 25 years.
		I'm only 35 years old, Art, and I'm still waiting for a winner on the north side of Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope that before your life ends, there is some pleasure for you.
unidentified		Now, I hear the L.A. Dodgers are for sale.
unidentified		Do you think Walt Disney will buy them up, too?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe Ted Turner will.
unidentified		Well, he already owns the Braves.
unidentified		I don't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You just finished saying that he wants to own the world.
unidentified		Yeah, him and Michael Eisner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what Ted Turner once said?
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I've always reflected on this.
		He said that having everything you want, having all the money you want, everything you want, is kind of an empty bag.
		In other words, when you really get so rich that you could have anything in the world, it's kind of boring.
unidentified		Yeah, it must be up in his stratosphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I think he said that to make all of us feel better, and it does make me feel better.
unidentified		I wonder how much he paid to stay in the Lincoln bedroom.
unidentified		I mean, him and 900 other people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		There's all kinds of stories now going around about that.
		Thank you.
		That the president and first lady were well aware all that was going on, you know, that the Lincoln bedroom was renting out like Motel 6.
		And when there were people staying there, they didn't want to see they would avoid them by scheduling something else.
		You know, even though they're staying in the White House, they would avoid them.
		So I was thinking of taking, starting a bidding war on somebody staying in my uplink room.
		That's what we call it.
		The uplink room.
		It's adjacent to where I am right now.
		It's a bedroom, but it has uplink machinery in it, you know, satellite uplink machinery.
		And right now, there are a lot of people that can claim they've stayed in the White House, but there is nobody save my mom who can claim they've spent a night in the uplink room.
		And we wouldn't even avoid you.
		Wildguard line, you're on here.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Annie in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Annie.
unidentified		Hey, I was wondering, all those times you're talking about the sleep paralysis.
		Yes.
		Was the summation of that a supernatural thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sleep paralysis is the first step, if you let it go, toward an out-of-body experience.
unidentified		Okay, because I've heard a lot lately that when people wake up and they think something's wrong with them, they were saying that everybody's body does get paralyzed so that you don't act out your dreams.
unidentified		And that there's like different parts of your brain while you're asleep, and one part might wake up and you're paralyzed, or the other part of your brain might stay asleep and then you have sleepwalking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot of people have that condition when fully awake.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, I should just be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		Many of them call me.
		One did just a few minutes ago.
unidentified		Yeah, I heard that one.
unidentified		Okay, well, thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		But anyway, that's it.
		Sleep paralysis, followed, they say, by an out-of-body experience.
		West of the Rockies, you're on here.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Well, I'm Sherry from the Roseburg, Oregon area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Sherry.
unidentified		Hi.
		I've never called before.
		Well, that's all right.
		I'm getting on this line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's allowable.
unidentified		Had some good stuff.
unidentified		I just started listening to you not too long ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty weird, huh?
unidentified		But it's fun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		I really agreed with the guy a while ago that was talking about the crime situation, and that would get rid of a lot of the population problem, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about the guy who said one felony in five years and two felonies in your death?
unidentified		If I was a dictator, there's about three things I'd do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that would be one of them?
unidentified		That'd be one of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder how long, theoretically, it would take for the crime situation in America to completely reverse.
		In other words, if people weren't paying attention, why it would take quite a while because you'd have to be disposing of a lot of people.
		But eventually it would be cured.
		Or people would recognize that you're really deadly serious and they would stop committing crimes.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it would be fixed right away.
unidentified		The next thing I would do is I wouldn't let scientists handle cloning that didn't even figure out what to do with nuclear waste before they used it.
unidentified		If they're that dumb that they don't think ahead that far, they shouldn't be messing around with cloning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, who would be allowed to mess with cloning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody?
unidentified		I don't think so.
		In fact, listening to your colors, I couldn't believe between the animals, you know, and the lack of caring about life, period.
		You know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a sad situation.
		I really, I think that's right.
		I don't think that as a race, we are ready for cloning.
unidentified		Not at all.
		But it's evil with people.
		There's evil dictators, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's here, and the genie's out of the bottle here, and we're going to have to, somehow we're going to have to handle it.
unidentified		Well, the next thing I'd do before giving up my dictatorship is I would return the country to the Constitution and become a republic.
unidentified		Then I'd be giving up my dictatorship.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		Well, so you'd be fairly benign.
		Thank you.
		I have found over the years of doing talk radio and doing these sorts of topics that women are incredibly more brutal than men.
		And I am firmly convinced that when women reach their full potential politically, power-wise, and we finally do get some serious women dictators, you know, they'll make dictators like Lennon look like pussycats.
		I guarantee you.
		I guarantee you.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		All right.
		Great to talk to you.
		Yes, good time caller, and I'm calling from the big island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you are?
unidentified		I'm calling from Keala Kakua.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't say that quickly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say it again.
unidentified		Kealakakua.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is that?
unidentified		This is on the conafide.
		Okay.
		And what's been happening here is this storm, we had sheet lightning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sheet lightning?
unidentified		Boy, that bomb last night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is scary stuff.
unidentified		It was ongoing for a period of at least most of the night.
		And we had hail.
		Hail?
		We had hail.
		Quarter-inch hail is what the news said, from South Point to Pahawa up on the south side of the island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then I guess several days ago there were big winds?
unidentified		There was winds on the summit.
unidentified		I heard gusts up to 120.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Carnivid too bad.
unidentified		We got a few gusts and maybe 30 or 40, but nothing real big.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I'll tell you, the weather is getting strange.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Hey, Art, I love your show.
		I discovered it about three months ago around the Courtney Brown episode.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The great Courtney Brown episode.
unidentified		I hurt my shoulder.
		I couldn't sleep.
		And I'm listening on KHVH from Honolulu because KKON and Kona goes in and out and they don't carry the full five hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		But there's something wrong with the antenna over here.
unidentified		But I do love your show, and I'm real honored to talk to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you called, sir.
		Thank you very much from the Big Island.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, yes.
		My name is Roger.
		I'm from San Antonio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Roger.
unidentified		And, well, I guess you heard about all that supercommerce stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I've got a videotape on the way.
unidentified		Well, I can't wait to see that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will ensure that you do.
unidentified		Oh, I got the newscast of it today at 6.
		I tape recorded that, but it didn't really give you any information.
		You know, being a former Journalist in college, you know, it didn't really dig deep at all.
		It just was really vague.
		But I'm really from El Paso, Texas.
		And I was really wanting to know if you know anything about the Martha Lights.
		If you've heard anything about the Martha Lights out of Martha, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure I have.
unidentified		I was wondering if you, what did you know or have you heard anything about that?
unidentified		I've grown up with that my whole life, and I've driven by them many times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have seen them on video, but I've never seen them in person, and I've known about them for years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea, like everybody else, I have no idea what they are.
unidentified		Well, see, there are many, I mean, they've had people chase them all the way down to the border to Mexico, which is approximately anywhere from 50 to 100 miles.
unidentified		I don't know exactly the distance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they're crossing the border illegally?
unidentified		No, no, the lights, they don't know what they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was joking.
unidentified		Oh, well, yeah, of course, you know, everything out there.
		Probably drug runners, you know, you never know what's going on out there.
		Having grown up there all my life, I've heard a lot of stories about it.
		Supposedly there was an Air Force base out there that they that closed down after the 40s, and my father remembers this, but they say that supposedly Hitler is looking for something or out there.
		Well, that's just a rumor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sounds like kind of a stretch.
unidentified		Yeah, that is a very big stretch.
		But you hear from one thing to the next, but there's no explanation for this at all.
		And I've never really heard an explanation of it.
		And it just looks like there's an airport way out in the middle of nowhere that just has a beacon out there.
		But I just never, I mean, of course you've seen it, but for the listeners who had it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just one of those things that happens because it's Texas.
unidentified		You know, you got an almost basin, and then you got a secret school, and my dad kind of like wanted to be looking for, actually, to kind of see that area.
unidentified		But, you know, it's just really interesting to see the marvelized, but it's just a mystery.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is a mystery, sir.
		You're right.
		Thank you.
		There are many, many, many mysteries and things that perhaps there will never ever be answers for.
		But those lights have been consistently appearing for as long as I can recall.
		I read about them and finally I saw them.
		They're remarkable.
unidentified		What are they?
unidentified		Nobody really knows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody knows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Used to the Rockies or on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, I just had a caller from San Antonio.
		Yes.
		Who saw this newscast, I guess.
		I'm in Austin, Texas.
		This is JJ from Austin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, the story, JJ, is that the chupacabra or whatever it is, has been taken to Austin for examination.
unidentified		Yeah, as a matter of fact, when you reported that last night, I was one of the good people that did not call up and harass King.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did not give those call letters on the air.
		I promised the guy they went nuts all.
		I'm sorry.
unidentified		I'm sure you could push the button on that one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I just went.
unidentified		Okay, good.
		Sorry about that.
		You were one of the good people who didn't call up.
		But I immediately, beginning at 6 a.m. when your show ends here, began an investigation of my own.
		And from the looks of it, I'm guessing that this is probably going to become a buried story.
		It's going to be forgotten by the media.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I shall not let that happen because I've got a friend there who is a reporter at blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, TV station.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he's sending me a videotape, and I'm going to take a still from it and put it up on the website.
unidentified		I'm curious, what kind of videotape is this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		VHS.
unidentified		I mean, no, I mean, like, is it a videotape of the corpse?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Okay.
		That explains a little bit.
		What I did today is I got up and I assumed that they would take it to the University of Texas to study.
		And I immediately began combing, beginning at the biology lab, and began asking questions and raising a lot of interest around the campus.
		Oh, yeah.
		And nobody had heard anything.
		Nobody had a clue as really what I was talking about.
		A couple people knew what I was referring to, but they didn't really, they hadn't heard anything about this.
		And they were sincere about it.
		They convinced me.
		And then I went to, I ended up going to Animal Resources Center, which is extremely heavily secured.
		This is where they do all the animal experimentations.
		It's secured for protest reasons, you know, activists, animal rights activists.
		And I thought that would probably be the place that they would take it to, but it's a very disease-controlled environment.
		I don't know if they would want to bring something unknown there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, plus, if they did, they probably wouldn't tell you.
unidentified		No, I realized that, and I got snubbed at the door.
unidentified		I'll have you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you did?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		So, and I did a little bit of asking around, like, students and listening all coming in and out of the building, just asking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you hold during our strike?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then stay right there.
		Austin, Texas, once again.
		Boy, we're lighting up Austin.
		Good morning, everybody.
		is CBC.
unidentified		CBC.
		You couldn't take my place.
		I said no one can take your place.
		And if you get hurt, if you get hurt.
		Why don't you take my TRN and CBC, Talk Radio Network and Chancellor Broadcasting Company, home of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Thank you.
		Her hands are hollow cold.
		Her lips we cry.
		Her hands are never cold.
		She's got bad days inside.
		She's had a new big bony.
		You won't have to thank her twice.
		She's called as New York snow.
		She's got bad days inside.
		Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		That's 702-727-1295.
		First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here I am.
		Clap of the morning, everybody.
		Back now to Austin, Texas.
		And I just got another fax from Austin.
		It's from Ken and Susan in Austin.
		And it says, dear art, fire ants, killer bees, and now chupacabras.
		What's next?
		Have you had fire ants and killer bees down there?
unidentified		I have never seen any myself.
		Of course, I'm kind of new to the area.
		I come originally from Wichita, Kansas.
		Okay.
		And basically, since I've been down here, I've discovered you and all kinds of cool information.
		What I was doing this morning, I was trying to track down where they might have taken this thing in Austin.
		And as I was saying earlier, I was home in the university, and as the university ended up, I got snubbed at the ARC building.
		So I got on the phone with the Department of Health.
		I thought they might possibly take it to the State Department of Health.
		This is the Texas Capitol.
		So they've got like the labs where they take rabbit dogs that are found that test and experiment on them or whatever they need to do.
		I figured that would be possibly where they would have taken this.
		And I called up the lab and spoke with somebody in the lab.
		And it was kind of an odd phone call, but I don't think that it was there either.
		They ended up denying any knowledge of it.
		They got as much information as I had to give them just from the report I got from your show last night.
		And I was referred to the Southern Texas Parks and Wildlife Services.
		And that kind of made some sense, too, but that wasn't located in Austin.
		That was located in San Antonio.
		If that was the department that had it, why would they have brought it from San Antonio to Austin?
		So I'm pretty sure that if it came to Austin, it went to one of the two places that I was checking out today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know one thing you can't be sure of?
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That it's dead.
unidentified		Well, I don't think that thought has it crossed my mind either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the Austin streets do not, well, I tell you, I'd want to be with a friend.
unidentified		Well, you know, and you know, that brings up something very, very cool that I would really like to share on your show one last thing.
		I've noticed people's response to this.
		I've been noticing, like, people that I have personally told this news to.
		And it's like the fear is just, you can see it, and you could cut it with a knife, you know, and it's coming out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So Austin is not the same kind of place tonight?
unidentified		No, no, I don't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But the fear is like, And then, like, about this time of the morning, because that's when these kinds of things happen.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you close your eyes, you can see the scaly back on it.
		You can see it beginning to twitch.
		You know, one of the eyes beginning to...
		Listen, I've got to run.
unidentified		Okay, thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		By the way, I'm in my own.
		I'm on my own website right now, and I'm in something called the sneaker chat room.
unidentified		If anybody wants to come in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The sneaker chat room.
		It's on my website, www.artbell.com.
		First time I've ever been in this particular chat room.
unidentified		The sneaker chat room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time, caller align, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Art.
		Hello there.
		Yes, this is Craig from Syracuse, New York.
		Hello, Craig.
		Yes, if I were a dictator, what I would do, first off, I would use HAARP to manipulate and control all the people in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What makes you think that our elected dictators, I mean representatives, are not already doing that now?
unidentified		They may be, but if I were to do it, I would eliminate the cash and cause everyone to receive a computerized implant in their hand in their forehead.
		Cool.
		And then move into the temple in Jerusalem and proclaim myself God and start killing off Christians.
		It really is you, isn't it?
		He's coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		It was him.
		So now we know where he is.
		Syracuse, New York.
		Syracuse, New York.
unidentified		That's where he is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you could tell he was on the move, probably using cellular.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Yes, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, extinguish your radio for me, please.
unidentified		Okay, hold on.
		Hold on.
		Okay, I'm calling from Mexical and Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yeah, uh, I was trying to get to the show about a year.
		I couldn't get on the line.
		So I just wanted to congratulate you about your show.
		Tell you everybody here in Mexico here's your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's nice.
		I know that you guys listen down there, but it's hard to.
		It's a problem because it's hard to call.
unidentified		Yeah, it's hard to call.
		And also the we get the Las Vegas station here, down here.
		Oh?
		And you can't hear it very well, so you're going to have like a real good radio?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A good radio.
unidentified		Yeah, to have to get your troll.
unidentified		So, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There might be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what you might try in Mexicali?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		760, I would think, would come in very well from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		50,000 watts from San Diego.
unidentified		Oh, I try that because I used to live in San Diego.
		Yep.
		And when I came down here, so it doesn't work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Might have a local interference.
unidentified		Yeah, something like that.
		Well, keep up the work.
		Good work, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
		That's Mexico.
		Yeah, you can hear us pretty much all over Mexico.
unidentified		But it's very hard to call from Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It really is.
unidentified		It's very hard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that Mexico should be added to the international line.
		And I, by the way, I never give out the number.
		What's the matter with me?
		If you're out there internationally, internationally, let me give you the number.
		Here's how you would call us.
		You dial, well, you call the AT ⁇ T operator, or you get the country code of the AT ⁇ T USA direct country code, and then dial 800-893-0903.
		Try right now.
unidentified		It's free from anywhere in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anywhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Europe, Asia, South America, Greenland, anywhere it's free.
unidentified		Free, free, free, free.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get the AT ⁇ T operator on the line and have her call 800-893-0903.
		And I'll try and watch that line.
		First time caller on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Eric.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I call in from Minneapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And let me answer your question dictator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		If you know the origin of the word dictator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um, not exactly.
		Do the wild thing.
		It's 702-727-1295.
		Yeah, well, no, thank you.
		See, I've heard that before.
		You know, he was just calling up to say something foul, and it didn't get on the air, and you wasted your call.
		Plus, you're a jerk.
		And now I know your voice.
unidentified		So it's too bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		This is Christine from Honolulu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Christine.
unidentified		I'm on Oahu, and it's been a little windy here, but not like the Big Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty weird news out of the Big Island, huh?
unidentified		Yes, I've had lots of breaking to do, though, with all the branches and tree limbs that have blown in the backyard.
unidentified		Can I do a dictator thing on this line?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you may.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you were a dictator from beautiful Oahu, what would you do?
unidentified		If I were a dictator, I would make some wage changes.
		I would give teachers more money and have athletes and actors and nurses and ambulance drivers earn what teachers earn.
		Actually, more than that, because there's probably a lot of people who are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much would you pay them?
unidentified		Much less, but enough where they could protect themselves from crazy fans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I would go back to the chain gang in every state, and I would enforce a marriage test.
unidentified		You have to take a test to get married, ask or fail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me an example of what kind of test, what would be in the test?
unidentified		I think you'd have to maybe know the person for a certain amount of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now that's a requirement.
		That's not a test.
		I mean, you're talking about a test for marriage here.
unidentified		A test.
unidentified		I'd have to think on that some more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there'd be probably something about toilet seats.
		Right?
		Toothbrushes.
unidentified		A couple things bother me, such as stoplights and turning signals.
		I would enforce those.
		I think a person should get a couple warnings and possibly lose their driving privilege.
		People, I feel, do not respect stop signs.
		It's true, and it's got to stop.
		And I would give Art Bell a raise.
		I don't know how that works.
		All right, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll make you a dictator.
		That was all you needed to say right there.
		Now, there's a pretty good project for somebody out there to come up with a marriage test.
		You'd probably have to have one for men and one for women.
		And depending on your score, you'd be allowed to get married or not.
		Boy, there's a lot of people in the sneaker room all of a sudden.
		It's really something else.
		So, you know, if you're out there and on the net right now, pop over to my website, www.artbell.com, and come into the sneaker room, and you will find me in there.
		Not saying a lot because I'm on the air, but I'm watching what people are saying.
		Okay, to my international line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Good morning.
unidentified		I'm calling from Fritchid Foggy Edmonton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Edmonton, Alberta.
unidentified		Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Ah, well, I have three things I'd like to talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think generally Canadians are too laid-back to be dictators, but.
unidentified		There's a secret plan in that, though, eh?
		Well, you don't know, but JC told you all about it.
		And that's one thing.
		You know, if I were dictator, I'd clone JC.
		One in each one of your cities.
		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is insidious plan.
unidentified		And, you know, you should have asked Mel if he ever shoved the 52 Chevy down that hole of his.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had a lot of faxes about that.
unidentified		But one thing I've been thinking about is that movie Asteroid.
unidentified		I was actually disappointed throughout, after about the first 10 minutes of the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the first part of it was great.
unidentified		They really rushed into it, and I thought, where are they going?
unidentified		They're making this happen too fast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought the same thing.
		And the second half was such a crushing disappointment.
		I got to where I hated that kid, that stupid little kid.
		His grandfather falls in the pit, right?
		And so what does he do?
		He heads straight to ground zero so that by the very end of the movie, he's hanging by his little hands, ready to fall into the very center of ground zero and burn to a crisp.
		And if I'd been there, I'd swear I'd have stepped on his hands.
unidentified		Well, what I was disappointed with is that I thought they had an opportunity, rather than making a soap opera out of it, to make it into like a somewhat of a nuclear devastation film.
		I've seen the movie called Threads.
		Have you ever seen that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, you can't sit down and watch that very frequently.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified		There's many objects around us.
		That's right.
		No, I thought it was going to really be based on here's an asteroid smashing into Earth and completely wiping out the planet, except for remnants of civilizations and how people regrouped and got together.
		And they could have done that really, really well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I could not agree with you more, sir.
		Thank you for the call.
		That's Edmonton, Alberta on the international line.
		Somehow, even though we didn't include Canada in the international line, they missed Alberta.
		I don't know how that happened.
		But people in Alberta are able to get through on the international line.
unidentified		But he's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's really right about that movie.
		My gosh, I was angry about that movie.
		The first part was so good.
		And the second part with the kid, how could they have done that?
		I understand that you need the human element, but as the caller just said, it could have been done so much better.
		Most of civilization would have been gone, as the caller said, but a remnant which would have pulled itself up by its bootstraps and begun anew, or even have all of civilization wiped out, you know, and we'd be nothing but future fossil fuel or something.
		Anything but the little kid wandering toward the center of the pit.
		I just couldn't believe it that they would do that.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Going once.
		Going twice, gone.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Steve from South Dakota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Steve.
unidentified		Haven't talked to you for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's been a while.
unidentified		Did you get my facts the other night that I sent you on Mars space?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember it.
unidentified		I sent you a page from the recent issue of Astronomy Magazine.
unidentified		And it says that NASA will post on a surveyor's website as soon as the pictures are received from Mars so that everybody can see what the face looks like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't believe it.
unidentified		I don't know if they'll do that or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just plain don't believe it.
		I don't believe it.
		I mean, we already know there are contractual things where they've got the photographs for so long before they have to release them.
unidentified		All right.
		Well, that's what they stated here in the magazine.
		And by the way, high-resolution shots are expected to show details as small as 10 feet across, which is supposed to be 10 times better than the best Viking images that were taken in the mid-70s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that ought to be good enough to see plaque on the teeth.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		See you later.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Meet you on that study, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you are.
unidentified		There I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I have people that are begging me, begging me to put them in touch with you.
unidentified		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I think they're fantasizing about your voice.
		In fact, well, I don't think that.
		I know that because that's what they write.
unidentified		Well, well, well.
unidentified		Hey, you know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		You're my favorite alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I thought I would say that because I want you to know that I don't think you're dead.
		I don't even think you're lukewarm.
		Hey, you know how when you feed your fish and you go over and like you tap on the I don't have any fish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a fish kind of person.
		But I did, I'll tell you, I saw the funniest cartoon I've ever seen in my whole life the other day.
		And you know what it showed?
		It was just a scene of a living room, and it showed a little fishbowl with a single piranha in the fishbowl.
		And then sitting in the background, there was this cat, and both of his front legs were in splints.
unidentified		That is funny.
		That was very funny.
		So the Antichrist drives a semi?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He didn't say he was driving a semi, but he sounded like one.
		Well, he was definitely on cellular, but it makes sense that the Antichrist would use a cellular phone.
		To me, anyway.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		You know, I hate to admit this, but I was thinking about your lips the other day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have a not fully healed lip.
unidentified		Oh, God, it's hard not to laugh.
		But, you know, I was thinking, I was going, gosh, I hope it grows back.
		And I was, wouldn't it be fun?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure about lips.
		I'm really not.
		That's what worried me.
		Most Other things, you know, heal and regrow, but I'm not sure about lips.
unidentified		I don't know.
		But I was imagining how funny it would be if our body parts did grow back when they got chopped off.
		You know, we'd have like little teeny tiny baby arms hanging out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like little lizards.
unidentified		Yeah, or we'd have a little baby head if our head got chopped off on top of an adult body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it would take a while for it to grow back to adult size?
unidentified		God, that would look horrible.
		What a life.
		Yeah, what a pinhead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, imagine the little teeny brain that the little teeny head would have.
unidentified		It would look like a cabbage or something on there.
		You know what?
		I hate to admit this, but I snort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Isn't that awful?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is because it's hard to imagine when one listens to your voice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, you're probably really ruining a lot of fantasies out there.
unidentified		This is very interesting.
		I can be awake and asleep at the same time because you know what?
		I wake up and I hear myself snort and I go, oh my God, listen to that.
		Listen to you snore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is horrible.
unidentified		You can't wake up.
		I'm like, wake up, stupid.
		You can't stand this.
		You know, if anybody hears you, you'll be so embarrassed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, what's left of my lips has got to take a break here.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Love you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
		That'll do it.
		At least for this hour and for some of you altogether.
		So if you've got to go, goodbye.
		For the rest of you, we'll be back shortly from the high desert.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		None other.
		Glad to be here in this all-night slot.
		Wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
		Wouldn't know how to be anywhere else, actually.
		I've turned into a bat.
		All right, look out.
		Here we go again, open lines, through the NUZI program.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
unidentified		How's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Hey, this is Matt from Idaho Falls.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, if I was dictator, I would make Miss Idaho Supreme Queen dictator.
		I would clone her.
		You mean Linda Motenhow?
		No, the news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, she was a new one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that Linda Motenhow was Miss Idaho?
unidentified		I didn't know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She was.
		I didn't know it either.
		I've known her all these years, and two weeks ago, I found out she was Miss Idaho once.
unidentified		I did not know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm pressuring her to send a photograph of when she was Miss Idaho, and she's stalling.
		Yeah, that's right.
		So everybody should fax Linda Moulton Howe at area code 215-491-9842 and tell her to turn that photograph over.
unidentified		Well, have you seen the new Miss Idaho?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but I would like to.
unidentified		Ooh, dance.
		Well, she won the first runner-up in the Miss USA pageant.
		Really?
		Last month, but we're all really happy for her.
		She is one beautiful lady and just really nice.
		Just a wonderful person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I am an appreciator of the female species.
unidentified		Yeah, I might have to see if I could get a photo for her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okie-dokie?
unidentified		But no, guess what?
unidentified		Somebody supposedly thought a chewy, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes.
		Now, all I know, and there's somebody in the chat room trying to tell me that it's a hoax, and he, of course, hasn't seen the video.
		I haven't seen it yet either, so I don't know how he can conclude it's a hoax.
		The word we have is that a television station got a video of it, and that video is on the way to me, thanks to a very good reporter.
		And we'll pull a still and take a look and see what we think.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Well, that'd be cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe.
		Maybe it's in Austin waking up as we speak.
		Ready to prowl the streets.
		All right, thank you very much for the call.
		And Eat Austonians.
		Could you call people from Austin Austonians?
		Probably not.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, this is Chris in Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Chris.
unidentified		Is that actually JC that I heard on the line there?
		No.
		That wasn't him earlier?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not to my knowledge.
		JC is very distinctive.
		You'll know when he's on.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		That's who I thought you were talking about.
		Quick question for you, Archie.
		Do you believe, when are you going to be doing another program on OBEs?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When the mood strikes, I guess.
unidentified		Okay.
		I had an experience that I thought maybe was an OBE.
		I was able actually to tell the actual date that my wife got pregnant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, you can probably usually sense that when you're in your body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even though you're having at the moment a surreal experience of some sort.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		do you have any way that I can find some more information on it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		None whatsoever.
unidentified		Yeah, I wasn't sure whether there was a publication or some sort of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me say this about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I too think that I know the precise instant, and I mean instant that my son was conceived.
unidentified		I've always thought I knew that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any of the rest of you have that experience?
		Talking to parents now.
		I mean, you just know.
		It's one of those things that you know.
		It's like this article from the scientists about intuition.
		It's in the Washington Post today.
		If you can probably browse their website and find it.
		It's about intuition.
		Scientists actually are beginning to study intuition now.
		And the article is funny.
		The title is something like, Scientists Have Hunch, Intuitions for Real, or something like that.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
		Goodbye.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Actually, I'm east of the Rockies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, yes, you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Austin, Texas, and there's one thing I forgot to ask earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, you're not allowed to call back.
		That's absolutely against the one way you can lose all rights to call this program is to call twice in one night.
		Don't ever do that.
		Never, never, never, never.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		You know, it would have been first-time caller line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Am I a dictator?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I think I would take Dick Marchenko's book, The Rogue Warrior.
unidentified		I'd take him, put him back in charge of the Steel Team 6, bring him over, and have him eliminate Sodom Hussein here with extreme prejudice, and I'd put his head on display as the State Capitol.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I think I would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's easy to say from a cell phone in a vehicle.
unidentified		Well, you know, that's, you know, that's true, but I could do myself.
		Okay, there was one of them in that.
		I'll just have them have take me over there, and if I could do it, I don't know.
		I see if you're a bigger eye for an eye.
		That'd be just the start, though.
		I think we'd close the American borders to call these illegal immigrants, and we'd start cracking down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Americans are actually given the opportunity to be dictatorial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quite brutal.
unidentified		Yeah, I just, you know, I think we're just kind of stepping up and stop being Mr. Nice Guy and kind of let people know that America, you know, needs to protect our own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I sense that.
		Yes, thank you.
		Look, what I guess we have proven here is that, I mean, nobody has yet called up and said, well, I wouldn't want to be a dictator.
		I want to live in a representative democracy, constitutional.
		I want to live in America.
		Everybody has taken the opportunity in the mantle to be a dictator, which tells you something about the basic nature of people.
		Even people who have been used to living in freedom.
		They, given one second of opportunity, would be a dictator.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
		I'm calling from Summit City, California.
		This is Madonna.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Madonna?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not the Madonna?
unidentified		No, no, no, but I am even Annie.
unidentified		If I were a dictator, I would ban all testing on lab animals, and I would turn the prisons into the lab testing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what's now being done to lab animals, you would begin doing to prisoners?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it is cruel to do to animals, why would you do it?
		I mean, some guy who, you know, was desperate.
		He needed some money for his family, so he knocked over a 7-Eleven, and he's in jail, and you're going to start cutting him up, huh?
unidentified		Well, no, not to those.
		I'm talking to child molesters, rapists, murderers.
		Oh, all that stuff.
		Hardcore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only hardcore.
unidentified		Jeffro.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you would decide that.
unidentified		Yep.
		Okay.
		I would.
		All right, I think I've got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Madonna.
		See, I'm telling you, these women, women are naturally a notch or two or three more cruel than men.
		This is something I found out during talk radio over the years.
		You know, every now and then somebody will commit a horrible crime.
		And I remember over the years there would be a show where, well, what do you think the punishment ought to be?
		Inevitably, the women calling in would be far more creative with the cruelest possible punishment and intimate descriptions of how they would disassemble the person if you follow me.
		Wild card line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I've got a dictator thing for you.
		All right.
		And considering what you were saying earlier, I wouldn't change anything except one thing.
		What?
		There would be a TV station devoted solely to the MCI girl.
		24 hours day and night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, she is so cute, isn't she?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Have you seen Mr. Hollenbill?
		Yes.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody.
		I got 10,000 emails on that.
		But she is just, I mean, she is incredibly cute.
unidentified		I know.
		I can't even watch that anymore anymore.
		It hurts to bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do understand.
unidentified		You should get her on your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd love to.
		I mean, if she'd like to come on the program, but I mean, this is radio.
		And there are a very few times when nothing but television will do.
unidentified		True.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's one of them.
unidentified		Yeah, I think you've got a point of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you very much.
unidentified		She really is cute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Tim from Casper, Wyoming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tim.
unidentified		I just wanted to say, if I was a dictator, Tiffany Amber Thiessen would be mine.
		Who?
		Tiffany Amber Thiessen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, she also is very cute.
		Yes, she is.
		That would be, though, I mean, wouldn't you do something larger for society?
unidentified		Save the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Save the world?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After Tiffany.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
unidentified		That would be come first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I understand where you're coming from.
		Thank you very much.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
		It's been a long time.
		Bob in Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Bob in Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry?
unidentified		You reached the Hall of Fame because they pronounced you dead.
		Ah, he.
		Well, you know, remember Mark Twain, Art?
		Mark Twain, some paper published in fact he was dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yeah.
		And I remember that.
		And also in 1978, remember the John Birch Society, they had a paper out, John Birch Society, a very right-wing outfit.
		They tried to get my wife to join them.
		She wouldn't.
		But they published that she was dead.
		My wife was Taylor Caldwell, and of course she called him up and raised the Dickens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, at least your wife, Taylor Caldwell, had the opportunity, Bob, to face her, accuser is not the right word, but the author of her memorial announcements.
		Pronouncements.
		Well, I'm afraid that I've killed the chat room.
unidentified		I guess I just can't do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I announce that I'm in a chat room, and so many people come into it that apparently the server dies or something.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It just stops working.
		Anyway, it was fun while it lasted.
		I was in the sneaker room on my website, and maybe I could try reconnecting or something.
		It was like everything froze up.
		Everything stopped.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I'll be darned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think we killed another server.
		West of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Hey, how are you doing today?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right, sir.
unidentified		Hey, on this Mel deal, how do you know that it actually did get a fax from him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because I recognized every aspect about the fax header, the return telephone number, and I know for certain that they were faxes from Mel.
unidentified		But couldn't have been the government or whoever was there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, of course, yes, of course.
		I mean, the whole thing could have been a hoax.
		I have no way of knowing because I just put them on the air.
		I do that all the time with all kinds of things.
		I just, you know, put people on the air.
		But your first question was, how do I know it was the same person?
		Right.
		I definitely knew that.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		Okay.
		Second question.
		I sent you a facts of a newspaper clipping I got out of the anapise record here in Chico about cattle mutilation in red blood.
		Did you ever get that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe I saw it, yes.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		Great.
		That's all I need to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think cattle mutilations are?
unidentified		Well, in this particular instance, it was kind of eerie because the surgically, seemed to be surgically removed on the one half, and in terms of the article, then on the other half of the article, they said, no, that's just the way it is when, you know, wild things start picking at it.
unidentified		And I thought, well, that's kind of odd because anytime I've had any dead animal out where other animals have been eaten, it's not like it's surgically, you know, cut up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I've heard about these mutilations is that no animals will go near them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No predators, natural predators will go anywhere near the mutilated animal.
unidentified		And that was true in this case as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
		It's true in most cases of mutilation, and that's so unnatural that animals have a good sense about that kind of thing.
		So I have not ruled out, thank you, the possibility that these mutilations really are something very different.
		Not all of them.
		I'm sure there are some that are deeds of sick people.
		But there's something really, really wrong, too.
		And anyway.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I can't hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't hear you.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is your name?
unidentified		Shannon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shannon?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shannon?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not me, Shannon, though.
unidentified		I'm Bradley Pollard.
		Okay.
		I'm from Woodland, California.
		You are?
		Yes.
		All right.
		And a highlight dictator, a wind-bearer dictator, I'd be a speaker for the public.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A speaker for the public.
		All right, Shannon, thank you.
		You're going to have to be a stronger speaker, Shannon, because for some reason, it's like you almost didn't have any audio.
		Almost no audio.
		Just barely there, Shannon.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		All right, good evening.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		It kind of caught me crossfire because I was listening to the show on Delay.
		I'm an airline pilot, and I'm kind of taken aback because of the Ed Dame show of 30th of January.
		Do you, I don't know, excuse me, you caught me completely off guard.
		I thought I had a lot more time.
		But in any case, what I'm wondering is, has Ed been on 30th?
		Yes.
		Oh, he has.
		When?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't remember the date.
		It was not that long ago.
		Why?
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		Because just having listened, I always thought of myself as rather a logical thinker, being in the business that I'm in.
		And having listened to that particular program, it did upset me to a point.
		And I was just wondering what your take on Ed is, vis-a-vis, when he was talking about the guy who did the fake alien autopsy, he said this guy was probably P.T. Barnum.
		Do you feel that way about Ed at all?
		Or do you think that's a good idea?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean that Ed's like P.T. Barnum?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		You think he's legitimate in his claims?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		But I don't think he's like P.G. Barnum.
		Oh, well, I suppose that...
		This is the kind of thing you listen to and make your own decision about, like most stuff I do on the air, sir.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		That makes sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are capable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, as an airline pilot, you make decisions all the time.
unidentified		Quite a few.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See?
		So that's the same with my program.
		When you hear something, you've got to make a decision in your own mind about the way you feel about it.
unidentified		And it was the way I feel about it doesn't matter.
		Oh, no.
		I was just curious as to your personal view.
		Irrelevant.
		Irrelevant?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
unidentified		The very last thing earlier when you were talking about the religious aspect of souls, and, you know, the guy was talking about the lamb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cloning.
unidentified		Right.
		Regarding that, you're talking about who hands out souls, or I should say on the portion of Christianity, but when you say the majority of the populace...
		Yeah, I am.
		I was completely caught off guard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, I've got to run.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And I'll leave your name at the front desk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will you somehow picture him at the controls of a 747?
unidentified		Mmmmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we've got a break here at the bottom of the hour, and we'll be right back from the high desert where it's finally dry again.
		Did a lot of raining yesterday.
		This is the American CBC Radio Network.
unidentified		This is the American CBC Radio Network.
		This is TRN and CBC, talk radio network and chancellor broadcasting company, home of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Music You are my candy girl, and you got me wanting you.
		Honey, oh my sugar, sugar, sugar.
		Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		That's 702-727-1295.
		First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
		702-727-1222.
		Now, here again, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reaching down to the bottom of the barrel of bumper music.
unidentified		Remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know how long that was on the number one, in the number one position?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was incredible.
unidentified		Ah, well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen.
		I can reach back and nearly come up with an endless supply of bumper music and things that you haven't heard in years and years.
		Somebody has done it.
		They've sent me a marriage test for men.
		Now, I would think there ought to be one for women, too, but I'm going to read you the one that I've got for men.
		A marriage test for men.
		Are you ready, guys?
		You can take this test and score yourself at the end.
		Here it comes.
		Circle the answer which most applies to you.
		One, your wife is suffering from PMS.
		Do you, A, hide in a corner and hope she doesn't notice you?
		B, go about your day as if nothing is wrong, casually dodging the various flying objects.
		Or C, demand that she quit crying and get you a beer.
		Two, your wife asks you if you think another woman is pretty.
		Your response, A, I didn't notice because I was looking at you.
unidentified		B, yes, please put down the knife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or C, good lord, what a set of hooters.
		Three, your wife wants to have sex during the Super Bowl.
		Do you A, sweep her into your arms and carry her upstairs?
		B, tell her you'll get to it later.
		Or C, ask her to get you a beer.
		Four, you are leaving the bathroom.
		What do you do with the toilet seat?
		A, put it down.
		B, leave it up.
		C, refuse to touch it because you forgot to put it up when you went.
		And finally, five, your wife wants to Go to the opera.
		You want to go to a tractor pull.
		Do you A go to the opera feeling a little culture will do you some good?
		B go to the tractor pull figuring your wife will love it so much she'll forgive you.
		Or C, go to the tractor pull and leave her home with the kids.
		Score zero points for each A answer, 10 points for each B, and 20 points for each C. If you received zero, you are a woman who took the wrong test.
		If you scored 10 to 50, you're a typical man.
unidentified		Good luck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any 50-plus scores suggest that unless you are Andrew Dice Clay, you are a pig.
		Expect death threats from Gloria Steinem.
		And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the marriage test for men.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody with talent did that.
		That's Chris in Shelbyville, Tennessee, ask, and ye shall receive.
		Thank you very much, Chris.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		I'm glad I got you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me too, sir.
unidentified		I've got a couple of things.
		First thing, I haven't been listening for the last half hour.
		I'm looking at the comment right now.
		It's just amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to go out once again after the program and try and find it myself.
		I have just not had luck.
		It's either been cloudy or I have forgotten.
		So this morning, it's clear.
		It's blown out.
		The clouds are gone, and I'm going to give it a shot.
unidentified		Has anybody else called in on it tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but it absolutely is visible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'll tell you, there is a chance over the next few days that we will have Alan Hale on, and he will instruct us all in the ways of the comet.
unidentified		Well, you don't have to look for it to see it.
unidentified		I mean, I was just driving along, and boom, there it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I got one more thing for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whatever happened with the Kramer case, we're going to have Kathy Kramer and Ed Dames on together March 6th.
unidentified		March 6th?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay, that's what I was talking about.
		Okay, well, thanks a lot.
		I can only know about that comment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Take care.
		Yes, I have heard it's kind of jumping out at you now.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Nod.
		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		That's good.
unidentified		Actually, I've been trying to get you since the beginning of the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of dialing.
unidentified		My arm is hurting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		First Florida call tonight.
		Yeah.
		I don't know if you knew or not.
		The Unexplained, they had Gotham Brink with the pyramids, the chambers.
		Yes.
		And they actually went up the south chamber, first time in 42,000 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No kidding.
unidentified		Yes, it was incredible, 200 feet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		It was the UP8 number 1 and 2.
unidentified		The little computerized camera.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I say again, wow, well, I wish I'd got to see that.
unidentified		Well, it was really incredible, really incredible.
		Yeah, it was last night.
		If I was a dictator.
		Yes.
		Okay.
		Well, I'd release the Hall of Records and make that the constitutional amendment for everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, the law.
unidentified		The law, the actual law.
unidentified		And I would make the overseers to be Forbes, Father Malachi, David Brinkley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Danion Brinkley.
unidentified		Danion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		David Brinkley is a news guy.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Two and three is for kids to equivalent to math and English would be remote viewing and Egyptian yoga.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be a very different world.
unidentified		It would be.
		No more fat kids.
		No more fat people.
		Everyone's healthy.
		And this lady called earlier about castrating or criminals or using them for donating their bodies.
		I would think more of them donating for living organs, however.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, remove the organs one at a time until finally you remove something critical and then sentence has been carried out.
unidentified		After, yeah, but not for gamblers, prosecutors, or drug offenders, not for addicts, only for hard criminals, after they are hypnotized and castrated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The piece them out punishment.
unidentified		Very much so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you very much for the call.
		And once again, you have proven that women are crueler than men.
		I'm going to have to save this marriage test for men forever.
		I now need its counterpart, a marriage test for women, which I suppose in its own way could be just as cruel.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Well, wonderful.
		Good morning, Mr. Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		This will probably be my last call because I'm returning to England soon.
unidentified		I'm calling from Alberta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alberta.
unidentified		In Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, and so one of these days you're going to be hearing us soon in Jolly Old.
unidentified		Is that right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is right.
unidentified		Oh, I will be so thrilled.
unidentified		I'll soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder, you know, I kind of wonder, I've been thinking about that since I found out about it, and I wonder what the English are going to think of me.
unidentified		I think they'll be fascinated.
unidentified		Fascinated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well?
unidentified		Because you got me hooked, and if you can get me hooked, you can get them hooked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe you're a good example test case then.
unidentified		Well, I need some very pertinent information because as I'm not going to be hearing you for a while, I need to know how I can get your book when it comes out.
unidentified		Is it going to be available worldwide?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it will be, yes, after a period of time.
		The first thing that's going to happen is it's going to come out in a hardback.
		Now, I'll tell you what I'll do.
		I will give you the phone number that you can call from anywhere in the world to order it.
		But Don't try to call until about, let's say to be careful, mid-April about tax time, okay?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The number is 1-800-864-7991.
unidentified		Okay.
		Perfect.
		And one more thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I heard you one night talking about when a person is asleep and they have these weird things happen to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Now that happens to me very regularly.
		Where can I get more information on that?
		Is there a book I can buy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is, but I can't give you the number off the top of my head.
		We've had a number of guests who have given us a lot of information.
		When did you say you're leaving?
unidentified		In March.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In March.
unidentified		Mid-March, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mid-March.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, there's plenty of time then, and I will get that information for you.
unidentified		Okay.
		All right.
		Is there a particular name of a book?
		What is this thing called that happened?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's an out-of-body experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, a person first will experience a kind of that you'll feel paralyzed.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And sort of in between sleep and wakefulness and paralyzed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm told that if you allow that to continue and go with the feeling instead of being frightened by it.
unidentified		Instead of fighting it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That you can then go out of body.
		I've always fought it myself.
unidentified		Yeah, I did at first.
		It has managed to get past me quite a few times.
		But I'm getting better with it.
		I'm doing that, you know, talking to myself.
		It's okay.
		You'll be okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what you've got to do, all right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, listen, I've got to go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you get back, tell everybody about us.
unidentified		I will, for sure.
		I hope I'm going to be able to get you.
		That's for sure.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Take care.
		Very nice.
		Yes, we're going to be, we've got this arrangement that we're coming to with British Talk Radio.
		And we're working on that.
		These things are not easily done.
		You know, we've got to get signal across the Atlantic and get all kinds of contractual things done, but we're working on that.
		As an alternative to short wave.
		Because all of a sudden, communications and the way of getting signals distributed is changing, and it's mainly by satellite, and so there are better ways to achieve what we want to achieve.
		I have written one book already, and a lot of people don't know about that, and I always forget to talk about it.
		It is available and in well into the third printing now, and you can still get it.
		In fact, it's going to be, I guess, kind of a collector's item.
		It's about my life.
		It's a book about my life.
		It's called The Art of Talk.
		Cute title, huh?
		And here's a word about it.
unidentified		Life can be an amazing experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, it amazes me at times when I reflect on my life and compare my rather inauspicious beginning to the way my life is now.
unidentified		That was an excerpt from Art Bill's book, The Art of Talk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We at Paper Chase Press are proud to be Art Bill's publisher.
unidentified		Art has put his heart and soul into this book for you, his listeners.
unidentified		In his book, Art reveals things which he would not and could not talk about on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I sat down to think about my life, I discovered how difficult and painful it was to reflect on my regrets.
unidentified		From the beginning stages, we wanted to make The Art of Talk a very special book.
unidentified		Hardcover, complete with full chord photographs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's also available as a free audio cassette album.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It should be obvious by now that I am a complex, tangled mixture of a person.
unidentified		Yes, he certainly is.
		If you want to know more about the man behind the microphone, call for your copy today.
		Call 1-800-864-7991.
		That's 1-800-864-7991.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there it is.
		You can still get it, The Art of Talk, at that number.
		And then by about mid-April, my new book, The Quickening, will be out, and I guess you'll be able to get it at the same number, I think.
		So anyway, if you want The Art of Talk, a brutally honest book, and so is The Quickening, in fact, maybe even more so, in a different sense, a different way.
		Really brutal.
		I don't know any other way to write, though.
		The number is 1-800-864-7991.
		And so you can get that book right now.
		1-800-864-7991.
		Somebody remind me tomorrow morning if you would.
		Tomorrow night, if I can even remember to do it, to run that earlier in the show.
		All right.
		Let's see.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Tim in San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tim.
unidentified		I feel really compelled to clear up a couple of misconceptions about cloning.
		Okay.
		What the scientists did was not create life.
		They took a zygote that was already created by a male and female sheep, and they just swapped out the DNA.
		So they didn't create the life itself that was already created by whatever you believe creates life.
		They merely took the life that was already created.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that can easily be argued.
		When you're doing in vitro fertilization, then you could argue, as you are now arguing, when you're able to actually take the DNA strands and put them in a blank slate, essentially, and clone, then you are creating life.
		Wait, wait, wait.
		Yes, it was.
unidentified		No, it wasn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is essentially a blank slate, yes.
unidentified		No, a zygote is formed when a male and female sex cell join together into one cell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it was emptied.
unidentified		It was emptied by the scientists.
unidentified		They removed the DNA that was there created naturally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And they put new DNA in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		The life was already created before the scientists ever seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but once you're able to do that, then you can manipulate the DNA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's one little tiny jump to manipulate the DNA.
unidentified		Sure, you can manipulate the DNA, but you have not created life.
		The DNA is not the life.
		The DNA is merely the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess you would argue then that until they can create the DNA, they are not creating life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would that be your argument?
unidentified		No, no, no.
		The DNA, you can take the DNA out of the living cell.
		The cell is still alive.
		That's what I'm saying.
		The DNA is separate from the living cell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're just arguing words here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They have cloned exactly.
unidentified		But that's just the physical characteristics.
unidentified		They have not, scientists may never, ever be able to create life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to know that until we get the first human clone.
unidentified		Well, and like a lot of people have been trying to tell you, a human clone is nothing more than a twin.
		That's all it is.
		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An endless, an endless number, potentially, an endless number of twins.
unidentified		Yeah, but they're all people, just like all of us are people.
		Well, they're no different.
		Now, look, you're getting into people automatically want to treat clones differently.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're getting into religious and philosophical areas that you're not qualified to be in now.
unidentified		No, I'm talking about something that's just a basic idea is that you don't walk down the street and start treating people as slaves.
		Why would a clone be any different?
		It's a normal person.
		It just happens to look like somebody else.
		It just happens to look and be an identical point to somebody else.
		It doesn't make that clone any less of a person with any less rights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With one little manipulation of DNA, you can create something that would essentially be a slave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you can.
unidentified		What would you manipulate the DNA to produce?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you'd manipulate the DNA to produce something with a very almost non-functional brain.
unidentified		Yeah, I could see that as a possibility.
		That's something else.
		Again, you don't even have to have cloning.
		You could just take a zygote, a human zygote.
		You can manipulate the DNA.
		wouldn't be anybody's twin, but you could do that now.
		You could start taking...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But once we have started down this road, I guarantee you all these things are open to be done, even if people won't talk about it.
unidentified		Well, all the Tucksley wrote about it in a book called Brave New World many, many years ago.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The only difference is that now it's here.
unidentified		Yeah, it's just about here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is the beginning.
		This is the beginning.
		I think you'll find tomorrow night very interesting.
		Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald, can you imagine a geneticist, a Jesuit priest, and a bioethicist all in one guy?
unidentified		Do you know the first geneticist was a German monk named Mendel?
unidentified		He was the first person to experiment with genetics and traits that are passed on from parents to offspring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he sure won't be the last.
unidentified		Okay, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's quite a world.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, good morning, Mr. Dolph.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		I wanted to give you an update about the comet.
		Okay.
		I've seen it Tuesday morning, and through the telescope, it appeared like a cobra.
		It had two tails, one extended up and behind it, and the other one appeared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's very interesting, because one of the astronauts supposedly said while they were up in the shuttle, that they too saw the comet, and it appeared to have two tails.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that is bizarre, and I cannot imagine.
		I can't even imagine.
		In other words, when you get a close shot from a telescope, I can understand the spiral effect that you get, depending on how it's outgassing.
		But I can't imagine what could produce from one comet head two distinctively viewed tails from this far away.
		Can you?
unidentified		Actually, I can.
		What?
		I predicted that.
		I painted a picture of, it's called Nine of the Comets, a form of comets, and on that I included a comet that had two tails on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The only way I can see that it would happen is if you guessjet.
		Well, suppose that something had broken off the comet.
		And suppose the orbit was beginning to differ from the comet itself.
unidentified		You know what I've got.
unidentified		Yeah, don't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, we're out of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My program is over, and you know how to do the honors, don't you?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
		Do it.
		From San Diego, this is Jesse saying goodnight, America.
		Ha ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and it's Art from the High Desert saying good night, Cosmos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you all tomorrow night.

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