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Feb. 4, 1997 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines. Steve Forbes, Ma Bell
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From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good
morning as the case may be across all these many time zones stretching from way out in
the exotic Tahitian and Hawaiian island chains eastward to the Caribbean, south toward South
America, north to the pole.
Worldwide on the internet, this is the case.
Is Coast to Coast AM and I am Art Bell.
Good morning everybody.
Great to be here.
I would like to welcome to the network WFIW in Fairfield, Illinois.
Great to have you along.
$13.90 on the dial there.
And I believe it's KCRC in Enid, Oklahoma.
KCRC in Enid, Oklahoma.
Welcome.
Also $13.90 on the dial.
Now there's a coincidence.
Uh, both of you, uh, welcome to the network.
Glad to have you along.
You will find this program to be... different.
For the most part.
And, uh, it's going to be a rather unusual different sort of show this morning, too.
I had the, uh, distinct pleasure last night, at the end of the program, something most of you would have missed, to interview Steve Forbes.
That was a 30-minute interview, and I'm gonna repeat that at the bottom of the hour.
So.
What's going on tonight?
Well, let's see.
16 months after O.J.
Simpson was cleared of murder charges, a civil trial jury unanimously blamed him Tuesday for the brutal killings of his ex-wife and friend.
The panel ordered the former football star to pay $8 million, $8.5 million that is, in compensatory damages.
Simpson could be slapped with yet millions more in punitive damages in the next phase of the trial.
Set to begin on Thursday.
Cheers erupted in the courtroom, the consternation of the judge.
Simpson left the courthouse to a chorus of boos and cheers.
Kind of a combination.
Daniel Petruselli, the lead attorney for the victim's families, said he is grateful for the jury's verdict.
Called it vindication for Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.
Goldman's father, Fred Goldman, said the families finally have justice.
Now, I don't know.
Do they?
Do they have justice?
Is there justice in a monetary award where there may not be assets to be forfeited?
Nobody knows how much money O.J.
has, and one would imagine a lot of it resides offshore someplace or another.
And if not, then you have to wonder how much money he's got to be tapped anyway.
The punitive portion is probably going to be very heavy from a money point of view.
Probably more than the 8.5 million.
It was a unanimous verdict.
Judges in California are loathe to turn over a very popular verdict, so I don't... You know, there's going to be an appeal, of course, but I doubt that appeal is going to be successful.
But the good question is whether this now represents justice done.
I'm not sure.
I'm really not sure.
Money, where there is none, to be turned over for two lives that are lost... I'm not sure that's justice.
You tell me.
At any rate, I'm going to pack a lot here in the first half hour, commercially, because I've got to clear the second half for you.
I'm going to have my mom on the air, probably about an hour and a half from now, something along those lines.
A little reaction on the Simpson matter.
Art, the criminal trial was a travesty.
The judge, weak, unable to keep the trial focused on relevant issues.
The lead defense attorney took control of the courtroom and with sociopathic indifference, infected it and the country with a race issue.
that not only had nothing to do with any aspect of the case but like a plague ravaged the nation if you couple the above with a jury trial that in the kindest terms was horrible you had the inevitable tragic result not guilty by reason of jury nullification now at last the case was tried fairly and appropriately the jury actually deliberated and in the face of overwhelming evidence came to a unanimous decision Liable, guilty of a brutal double murder.
But civilly, of course, not in a criminal sense.
Or this, all right?
Slow news day, huh?
Compensatory damages to the Goldman family, $8.5 million.
Punitive damages begin the war of the accountants.
How much can O.J.
afford?
The jury determines the punitive damages to be awarded, notwithstanding the statute they can't bankrupt Mr. Simpson.
The appeal of a prejudiced jury to the appellate court requires OJ to file bankruptcy or to collateralize 150% of the compensatory and punitive awards.
Does OJ have these kinds of assets?
Brynne Marie and San Francisco Willard have been following the Simpson mess for the whole two and a half years and this is by far the most twisted confluence of events that I've seen thus far.
I've stopped saying it can't get any weirder.
So I think the chief question, and I've thought about this, is whether there really now is justice, and I guess there is a mitigation of the injustice, but I certainly would not say there is justice.
President Clinton had his State of the Union address mainly concentrating in areas of education, and called for a stable partnership with Russia.
And I don't know how you have a stable partnership with an unstable nation, but he's called for that.
A jury in Kernville, Texas has recommended Darlie Rottier die by lethal injection.
The stabbing death of her five-year-old.
Pending charges also for killing her six-year-old son.
The boys, two, were stabbed to death with a butcher knife while they were asleep in their home near Dallas.
A butcher knife.
That's definitely in the quickening category.
I have no idea how to digest news of that sort.
A mother comes in and stabs to death her two infants with a butcher knife.
That just doesn't seem possible, but I'm afraid today we know it is.
High Art tonight around 1830, for the non-military that would be 630 Pacific, a large explosion or some type of sonic boom Was heard up and down the Pacific Coast.
Literally shook our building.
Talking to various hands up and down the Puget Sound area.
Within a radius of 150 miles, they all felt it.
The scanner went crazy.
I have no idea what it was.
The news media do not have any answers.
Como King Cairo.
The FAA has no idea.
And I'd be curious to know who else heard it.
Jack Coles, who predicts earthquakes, says there has been one large main signal, specific character, low-frequency radio spikes, received by instruments today, February 4th, at 5.30 AM.
And based on that, Jack Coles says, we feel there is a 75% chance of a 6-plus magnitude earthquake Anywhere along the west coast of California down to South America.
Specific dates for the watch.
February 6th through the 13th.
It figures.
I'm going to be going on a sort of mini vacation after this night for a few days.
And I'll be along the west coast and west coast of Mexico.
So it figures.
There is one absolutely irrefutable, unchallenged fact.
And that is, when I have gone on vacations in the past, be they short or long, something incredible always occurs.
And I could take you back to Waco.
And I could document events since then that have occurred on a regular basis every time I take as much as two days off.
Now I trust this morning that Los Angeles is quiet.
And the reports I've got so far indicate it is so.
There could be some concern, but I understand crowds that were there dispersed quietly.
And it looks as though it may be okay.
Hope so.
Many of you have no idea that our Senate, yes, the U.S.
Senate, has now, second time around, a bill to create a new money.
Now, why do they want a new money?
Well, they talk about a counterfeiting and that sort of thing.
But there are going to be two forms.
Why do they need that to defeat counterfeiting?
One inside the U.S.
and one outside the U.S.
Gotta change them as you come and go.
A lot of people, I'm one of them, think this will be an eventual devaluation of the U.S.
dollar.
That's what they could do.
Doesn't mean they're going to, but they could.
Now, I can't fathom any other reason for two forms of currency.
Can you?
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All right, a few calls between now and the bottom of the hour.
Anything you want to talk about?
This will be my last night for, I don't know, three nights or so.
And so, anything you want to talk about?
Comment on the O.J.
Simpson case?
Oh, yes.
Indeed, you're welcome to make that.
Comment on the case in Texas?
A head shaker.
You're welcome to make that.
Any comments on the President's State of the Union Address?
You're welcome to make those.
In other words, anything at all... Oh, I did run into one very weird thing that I'm going to follow up when I get back from this little mini-vacation.
And I talked to the man earlier tonight, up in Oregon, who had contacted my publisher, with a very weird story and I can't tell you a whole lot of it right now but apparently in Wilmington California the other day there were UFO sightings followed by get this a nineteen fifties vintage automobile that fell out of the sky now the story I got from the man I talked to earlier tonight
Was that they cordoned the whole area off.
And nobody knows much about it.
Now, if you're in Wilmington, I would love to hear from you.
But I am going to line up somebody who knows something about this.
Can you imagine that?
Poof!
The 1950s.
It was not specified what kind of vehicle it was.
Fell right out of the sky.
Now, what are the odds of that?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hi, Mr. Bell.
How are you?
It's Paul from Philadelphia.
Hi, Paul.
Yeah, um, listen, I just wanted to make a comment.
I'm a white person.
I didn't think O.J.
did it.
I still don't think he did it.
This doesn't change my opinion.
Of course, I'll review the transcript of this trial.
But, uh, everybody has to keep in mind that the evidence is different.
And, uh, that's just my opinion.
I just wanted people to know that.
Well, the burden of evidence is different.
Correct.
Absolutely correct, yes.
And, uh, so I just wanted to make that comment to the country.
And, uh, and I heard the President's speech.
I thought it was a pretty good speech for a President.
And, uh, it's good to hear you.
I hope you have a nice vacation.
All right, my friend.
Thank you very much from Philly.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Ed.
This is Ed at Chattanooga KFND checking in.
Hello, Ed.
How you doing?
All right.
Good.
Well, I hope you're going to have a good vacation.
I hope so.
So, have you seen Mars Attacks yet?
Have I seen what?
Have you seen Mars Attacks yet?
I'm sorry, I'm not understanding what you're saying.
Have you seen the movie Mars Attacks?
Oh, Mars Attacks!
No, not yet.
Well, I hope you get a chance to see it on your vacation.
Maybe I will.
Everything's going fine down here.
We haven't had any problems with the verdict.
In fact, most people down in San Diego are saying, thank God it's over, and I just want to go on with my life.
Well, I've been going on with mine anyway.
How about you?
Yep, me too, me too.
But that's what our news reporters have gathered down here.
Right, that's what I'm gathering as well, and I'm glad to hear it.
Thank you very much.
So, Los Angeles apparently quiet.
We'll get a better reading of that at midnight as we talk to L.A.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, this is Carlson, Minneapolis.
Yes, sir.
I'm fine.
Great.
I wish you a good vacation.
Thank you.
I have a quick comment on the O.J.
Simpson case, and this is something I'm pretty sure you've never heard before, because I have been listening this whole time for someone else to say it, but I've not heard it.
All right.
Do you remember when he was first arraigned?
He had a lawyer, and you're going to have to help me with this.
I can't remember the man's name.
They had a lawyer who was not later included in the case.
In fact, he was dropped within a day or two after Simpson's arrest.
Well, there was one attorney, retired I think, that held a bag for OJ.
Would that be who you're talking about?
No, I wish I could tell you.
Okay, then there was another attorney who had a heart attack or heart problems.
And dropped out of the case.
That was during the first few days of the trial.
No, this was the very first.
Well, then I'm sorry, I don't know who you're talking about.
Okay, I can't remember his name.
I'm sure another listener will, but my comment is this.
The day after he was arraigned, I saw this live on CNN.
The man came out of the courthouse doors and was on the steps and he was being interviewed.
And he said that Simpson, they hadn't made up his mind yet, but Simpson would either plead Not guilty or insanity.
Yes.
Now why would a man who was innocent even be contemplating pleading insanity?
That's a virtual guilty plea.
I've never heard anyone else point this out.
Actually, it's not guilty by reason of insanity.
Right, but it's an admission of the fact that he did it.
Yes.
I just thought that was strange and I wanted to comment on that and maybe some of your other viewers or listeners comment on it too.
Thank you.
Yes, that's right.
I have listeners.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Whoops, would have been.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Hi.
Hi, my name is Mike from Tacoma.
Hello, Mike.
Hi.
My comment is about the President of our United States.
Yes, sir.
And in his address, I can't believe he said it, but He wants all the eight-year-olds to be on the Internet?
Oh, yes.
If this guy's going to have eight-year-olds on the Internet, he better get his business together and get some of the stuff that's on there off.
Well... It's far too easy to say.
Yeah, but one presumes, or would hope, that parents or teachers would guide the children with regard to where they go on the Internet.
I mean, you know, parental control here, folks.
Right.
Well, you know, we've been here at our school Uh, and we've gone to them and talked to them, and they have said that there's no control over that stuff, and what they're going to do is they're going to trust the children, because the children have responsibility inbred in them, they say.
Oh, please.
Oh, please.
All right, my friend.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
When we come back, repeat of a late yesterday morning interview with Steve Forbes.
We'll be right back.
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Very quick update.
Art just heard on Como TV that the sonic boom was an SR-71 Blackbird coming into the Pacific Northwest and landing at Oak Harbor Naval Air Station.
That from a listener quoting K-O-M-O.
Now, take a listen to this coming up.
Fascinating interview.
We'll be right back.
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And now comes Steve Forbes. He is editor-in-chief of Forbes, the nation's leading business magazine.
leading business magazine He, of course, was a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 1996.
He is now honorary chairman of Americans for Hope, Growth and Opportunity.
I've heard that somewhere before.
A new national issues advocacy organization promoting issues like the flat tax, a new social security system for younger Americans and medical Savings and accounts, and we're going to get to all of that.
Steve Forbes, welcome to the program.
Good morning.
How are you?
I am very well, sir.
It's an honor to have you here.
It's a great pleasure to be with you.
Thank you.
I'm a moderately successful talk show host, and I have started to make a little bit of money.
And this question will serve, I think, for many in the audience.
I've watched the market over the last year, and it has been amazing, absolutely amazing.
And I have a financial advisor.
My financial advisor comes to my home and tries to convince me why I should put money into the market.
Says, oh, look, no matter what happens in the long run, the market is going to make you money no matter what.
And I say, but I think there's this big correction coming.
I think it's oversold.
And we argue back and forth.
What do you think, Mr. Forbes?
Well, the market certainly has reached extraordinary heights in the last two years.
There's never been anything like it in the last 50 years.
And so your caution is understandable.
Your advisor is right that if you are around for enough years, even if you get a correction, you're going to do fine.
The problem with market timing is not just getting out of the market, the problem is when you get back in.
So you might be cautious about going into it, keep some of your powder dry, but recognize that there are going to be roller coasters.
I remember from the mid-60s through the late 70s, this market went nowhere.
That's right.
What I'm afraid of is, though, I mean, if there's a better time to get in, it's after the correction, not just before it.
That's the argument I keep making.
That's right.
And of course, the art of the action is when is the correction and when is the correction over?
One of the great traps is what they call a bear market trap.
You know, the market takes a dip.
You think, oh, that's it.
You get in and then it takes an even bigger dip.
So I think the key is just put a little bit in each month, keep some of the powder dry, and then if it goes up, terrific.
You never lose money with a profit.
Well, you sound just like my advisor.
There is a big move in Washington now, a Republican move primarily, for a balanced budget.
A constitutional amendment, actually, for a balanced budget.
The President promises to fight this with every fiber of his being, and I wonder if you think it really does have a chance this time around, or is it just going to be another big fight?
I think it's going to be, at the end of the day, a frustrating fight.
I don't think it's going to make it this time, but I do hope that the advocates of the balanced budget amendment put with it something that I think would help attract support, certainly from the American public, and that is couple it with something they proposed last year, and that is a tax limitation amendment.
that if you have this balanced budget amendment you want to be sure that the
Washington politicians don't use it as an excuse to raise your taxes
to have a provision in there that you need three-fifths or two-thirds of a vote of
Congress to raise your taxes that way if they have the balanced budget amendment they're
going to look at the spending side
rather than trying to take more money out of your pocket where would uh...
the social security business come into play here In other words, presently we're using those funds, in effect, to mask the size of the deficit.
You bet.
Well, this is where they have to be very careful on how they do what they call the enabling legislation.
That is translating an amendment into real law.
Because, as you know, Washington, the way it keeps its books, is a way that no private corporation would be allowed to do.
They take those Social Security monies, And if they have a surplus, which with the baby boomer generation you have it for a few years, and they immediately go out and spend it and give the trust fund these IOUs with interest rates that are below market, the subsidy of the debt.
That's why the national debt always goes up more than the budget deficit by a factor of almost two to one, because that money is borrowed.
That is not real revenue.
So they counted as revenues, and then they counted as borrowings.
It's a wacky way to do it.
Very misleading way.
Do you give the President any credit for reducing the size of the yearly deficit?
No, I think a couple of things have happened.
One is, in the early years of his presidency, you had the wind-down of the S&L bailout.
The sale of assets started to come in, so that helped.
And then the Republicans capturing Congress in 1994 changed the whole game.
He stopped talking about big spending programs and started to pretend that he was a balanced budget man himself.
And if you notice, Art, since 1994, that's when the huge rise in the market began.
Well, that is true.
That's absolutely true.
As a matter of fact, if Clinton had not increased taxes in 1993, not to mention what the Republicans did in 1990, This economy would be much larger today, and the deficit would be much smaller.
The President will give his State of the Union address tonight.
I am told that one of the things he will propose is a $98 billion tax cut for American families.
And the Republicans initially seemed to say, hey, right on!
But now they're sort of beginning to hedge a little bit on it.
How do you react to such a proposal?
Well, you always have to read the fine print with this president, and there are a lot of small tax increases, apparently, that they're going to propose, tens of billions of dollars worth.
And also, too, we do need a cut in the capital gains tax if we're to have this economy continue to grow and create new jobs.
All right, well, in that category, he's apparently going to propose up to a $500,000 one-time capital gains tax cut for the sale of the house.
of Washington.
They take your money, and then they dole it out to you, some of it, in little dribs and drabs here and there.
They play like giving you an allowance or Santa Claus.
But remember, those so-called targeted tax cuts, that is from your money.
They take a dollar from you, give you back 50 cents and various credits, and you're supposed to be happy with that.
So we do need a genuine tax cut, but they love telling you Where you can spend your money, how much of it you can take out, give it back to us.
We'll handle it.
This president is a true expert at that, isn't he?
He really is.
He is very good at small things.
I wouldn't be surprised if tonight he proposed a law that bans doctor's offices from having old magazines.
He's very good at that.
Everybody will stand up and clap.
The Consumer Price Index.
Now, there's talk of a bipartisan blue-ribbon panel to get together and consider if the Consumer Price Index is wrong, and if there needs to be an adjustment, something that over, what, a decade could produce a trillion dollars for the government.
Is this just some big rip-off, or is it genuine?
Should there really be an adjustment to the CPI?
Well, you have some many fine scholars and experts say that there are flaws in the way they calculate it now.
But I think that on Social Security, we should keep our eye on the really big issue.
Instead of going for a one-time fix, which we've done for the last 30 years, which always leads to higher taxes and fewer benefits, why not go for the real ultimate answer?
And that is, keep the current system for those who are on it.
You don't want to scare people who are on the system, or you'll never get real reform for younger people.
But while we still have time, start a new system, phase in a new system for younger people, where part, the bulk of their payroll tax, instead of going to Washington, would go directly to their own special individual retirement account.
They couldn't touch it until a certain age, but it would belong to them.
They'd get quarterly or monthly statements.
And that way, even if they just put it in bank savings accounts, they will be infinitely better off when they retire than they're going to be under the current Social Security system.
But we've got a very big, expensive government to run, and without that money for them to steal, excuse me, borrow, there are going to have to be some mighty big adjustments back there.
No.
As a matter of fact, if you look at the real financial situation in Washington.
You look at the social security system and they have a real unfunded liability of about eight to ten trillion dollars.
The debt is there.
The obligation is there.
Washington for years has pretended that it wasn't there.
So you can make a transition combining the current surpluses we're going to get from the baby boom generation Surpluses they've run up in the last eight or ten years.
Turn those IOUs, phase them into real assets that you can sell.
And then, if you need to borrow money, it's going to be infinitely less during this transition than that eight or ten trillion dollars.
And then you pay the bonds off when you have the new system.
There are a number of proposals that have variations of that.
It's eminently workable, but the real objection in Washington They fear a loss of power.
They want to control it.
Mr. Forbes, I've been watching the national debt, and I watch that clock like a hawk, and I know that in some number of years ahead, the interest on the national debt is going to literally consume every dime we might have otherwise spent for somebody's social program.
When will that crunch point probably be?
I know they can play games with smoke and mirrors and all the rest of it, And avoid it for a while, but at some point it's going to catch up with us.
How far away is that point?
Well, it's probably several years away.
Right now, if we stopped increasing the national debt, we could cope with what we have today.
But you're right, the trend is the real frightening thing.
Exactly.
And fortunately, I think we're now at last, despite this president, starting to do something about it.
This Republican Congress that everyone criticized, Actually did some good in the spending side.
New agricultural program, the welfare reform bill.
It made a little bit of progress.
So the turnaround has started.
But what we genuinely need is real reform, first on the tax side.
We have a horror system today.
As you know, last Friday the IRS announced that that $4 billion they spent for modern computer systems is now wasted, gone, doesn't work.
They say, well, we'll have to start over again.
Why not start over again with the tax code?
Junk it, make it simple.
Compliance alone with a simple tax, say a flat tax where you can fill it out on a postcard, would generate enormous new revenues.
Would it really work?
Oh, absolutely.
In the real world, it does.
When you lower the tax burden on people, people are able to do more, and the economy prospers, and the government ends up with more revenues.
In Washington, What they fear is not a loss of revenue, despite what they say.
Loss of power.
What they really fear is the loss of power.
Sure.
The ability to manipulate socially or whatever with the tax code.
As somebody said, tax credits and tax loopholes are to a politician what cocktails are to an alcoholic.
Is there any practical way to force them to do what they should do but probably won't?
I think ultimately it's going to have to be public opinion.
If you change that tax code, make it simple, we have now seven and a half million words in the tax code, ten times the size of the Bible.
If you make those kind of changes and take their power away, you change the whole dynamic.
And then we can start to make some real reforms.
Alright, the 105th Congress.
He's probably going to be fighting about the Constitutional Amendment and a lot of other things that, as you suggest, will probably end up being frustrating and going nowhere.
What should the 105th Congress be doing now?
They should be doing several things.
One is set the foundation for genuine tax reform.
try to get as a beginning a genuine cut in things like the capital gains tax, but make
it clear that they are setting the foundation that if the voters want, the foundation will
be there to junk this complex corrupting tax code and replace it with something that people
can actually understand, including the tax collectors.
Genuine social security reform, genuine medicare reform, such as medical savings accounts,
which if done right would give people more control, better coverage at less cost.
We've tried a variation of that at Forbes magazine for five years, and our costs per
person are less today than they were five years ago.
Not one of our people is on managed care.
Three thousand other employers have tried it.
The United Mine Workers have tried it.
It works.
Consumerism works.
Give people control and they will do a better job than the bureaucracies.
You just went through a presidential campaign in which, because of your fortunate situation,
you were able to generally fund as you needed to, I guess, but the other two major parties,
Both are now under investigation.
The Democrats, perhaps to a greater degree, and the Republicans to a lesser degree, I think.
Fred Thompson's getting all set up to investigate everything.
The question is campaign finance, of course, and I'm sure you must have some views on this.
We're going to go through literal hell politically this year on this subject.
What would you do?
I think the key is to recognize that the so-called reforms they put in 20 years ago, again trying to micromanage everything, is one reason why we have the mess today.
I believe that they should raise significantly the caps on individual contributions as long as there's prompt and full disclosure.
If you make a major contribution to a candidate, it's public knowledge within 48 hours.
There's no reason why that can't be done.
Let the voters decide if the candidate has sold the soul to an individual or to a special interest group.
So you're on the side, then, of campaign donations really being a First Amendment issue.
In other words, money for supporting a candidate who has a particular point of view that you share is a First Amendment right.
It's giving people the means to get their message out.
The key is, though, full disclosure.
Right now, With the system they have, you have massive amounts, even if they obey the law, of hypocrisy.
They have these so-called independent committees.
Right now they can make expenditures, raise money, and that's not publicly disclosed.
So I believe in full public disclosure.
If you set up a committee, everyone should see where you're getting the money from, where the money is going.
I mean, the unions poured millions into some of these Congressional and Senate races, and we still don't know where that money came from.
Alright, well, it's going to be an interesting year, and there are a lot of investigations, not just campaign finance, but of course all the gates, and I'm not even going to bother going through them.
I'm just going to ask you whether, in your view, any of these investigations ultimately will really go anywhere, or will the people with the power protect themselves?
Well, they're certainly going to try to protect themselves.
You see it with this White House, where Clinton Show himself to be a great master, great wonk and great detail.
Suddenly they have these huge memory lapses on certain things.
You're going to see a lot of that.
But I think there will be.
I think some of this is going to hurt.
It is going to stick.
And that may, funny enough, if the opposition and pro-growth Democrats play their cards right, might force the president to do some reforms that he might not do otherwise.
So, in other words, somebody may actually have to pay for mistakes that were made.
Revolutionary, isn't it?
Yes, revolutionary.
The President will also, I'm told, propose tonight college tuition tax credits of $1,500, $10,000 tax deduction, that sort of thing.
He's going to concentrate a lot on the area of education.
Do you applaud that or think that it's a ruse?
Well unfortunately again it gets back to this idea they take your money and then they find a way to pretend to give it back to you and you applaud that they're being so nice and considerate of some of the expenses you face in trying to raise a family, get your kids educated.
I think the key thing is, on that kind of tax credit, why not first let people keep more of what they earned And then they do have programs now where you can get grants, you can get loans, if those need beefing up to help some people, fine, do that.
But trying to use the tax code, they'll do it in ways where a lot of people won't get what they've been promised, it'll increase the power of the bureaucracy, and we're not going to end up getting as much as we think we're going to get.
It's the typical Washington game, make it sound nice, make it sound like they're doing something in an area that people really feel there's a need in, But it's always less than meets the eye.
Well, Mr. Forbes, that was your message.
How do we get that message empowerment by actually returning the money to the people or letting them keep it, better said?
How do we get that message to resonate with the American people and then translate it into votes for somebody like yourself who would actually get it done?
I think the key is persistence, doing what you're doing.
This new organization that you mentioned, and I'm starting to promote issues like the flat tax and the new system for younger people, parental control of the schools.
There are a number of organizations out there working on some of these issues, and we just have to keep hammering away.
One of the things I discovered in the campaign was that people were genuinely interested in major reforms.
Even if they didn't agree with what you proposed, they wanted a real discussion on it, a chance to ask real questions on it, People do go beyond soundbites if they think there's something worth talking about.
But those are the people that are engaged, and what I haven't figured out is how to engage those who just frankly don't care or who have given up.
There's got to be some way to engage those people.
If you could do that, then you'd really be on the way.
I think persistence is the key.
You keep hammering away on the message, and then more and more people say, hey, let's make this happen.
If you look at the history of some of the great changes we've had in our country in the past, starting with our own independence, you recognize that it took years of work, grassroots work, to get the message out there.
And then it begins to take hold.
But the key is not to give up on it.
The key is to be persistent, find ways to persuade people, try to find new ways to engage people, and eventually, if it's right, it will come to pass.
Mr. Forbes, you mentioned persistence.
When the next opportunity comes to run for president, do you intend to be persistent?
Well, one way or the other, it's much too early to tell even who the players are going to be.
But one way or the other, I will remain engaged.
And one of the things I hope that this new organization I'm starting will achieve, help achieve working with others, is that regardless of who emerges, we're going to help set an agenda that they will respond to, have to respond to, because of public support.
So we will get some of these reforms.
All right.
As a final question, looking at the market this year, you gave me some generally good advice.
It sounded like my financial advisor.
But what do you believe will occur to the market this year?
I don't think much is going to.
I don't think the market is going to be much higher at the end of the year than it was at the beginning of the year.
There are going to be some ups and downs.
The key to keep your eye on is what this Congress does.
If they do something good on the tax front, if they keep the administration from going crazy on new regulations, then I think we have some hope.
But if they give up on a real tax bill, if they don't, if they retreat as they started to do last year on some of these regulations, then this economy is going to really slow.
Well, I'll cross my fingers, and I'm sure you will, Mr. Forbes.
It has been a distinct pleasure and honor to have you on the program.
Short as it has been, let us do it again sometime.
I look forward to it, Art.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Well, there you have it.
That was my interview with Steve Forbes late yesterday morning, and I know a lot of you didn't get an opportunity to hear it, so I thought I would Squeeze it in for you.
Well, obviously, at the top of the hour, we will delve quickly into the Los Angeles area and find out what's going on down there.
I hear it's quiet.
We will confirm that, and then move on to other business.
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This is the CBC Radio Network. It absolutely is top of the morning. You know about OJ by
now. The, actually 16 months after OJ's death.
Simpson was cleared of murder charges, legally, a civil trial jury unanimously blamed him Tuesday for the brutal killings of his ex-wife and her friend.
They ordered him to pay $8.5 million in compensatory damages.
The rest of the damages are yet to be determined.
Jury will reconvene on Thursday and there will be, no doubt, millions more.
Uh, the only question worth asking was, or has justice now been done, and I... I don't think so.
Um, I can't say I think so.
I've always thought that he was guilty, and, as you know, and, uh... Justice done, uh, with an order for money to be paid?
Well, it may mitigate things a bit, but I wouldn't go so far as to say justice has been done.
The President gave his State of the Union address.
As usual, not much comment on that.
People never seem to want to comment on the President's State of the Union address.
There must be a reason for that.
In Texas, there's been a recommendation that Darlie Rauter die by lethal injection.
She is the one who allegedly stabbed her two children to death.
This is for the first charge.
She faces a pending charge for killing her six-year-old son, Devin.
In other words, both of them with a butcher knife.
Now, what I'm going to do for this half hour is open my West of the Rockies line and my first-time caller line for Los Angeles.
Let us query the people in Los Angeles and see if all is quiet.
Now, the reports I have indicate that all is quiet.
The night, though, is fairly young, and so I just thought I'd try and get a bit of feedback from the people in Los Angeles and see if it is so.
So, is it so?
Los Angeles only, please.
At 1-800-618-8255, L.A.
only, this half hour.
Also, L.A.
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Also LA only on the first time caller line at area code.
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Both those lines, Los Angeles callers only, please.
At the bottom of the hour, since my... I'm going to be taking about three days vacation here.
to to both those lines Los Angeles callers only please at the bottom of the hour since my I'm going to be taking
about three days vacation here and I'm going to an undisclosed resort location in Mexico
By the way, there are some earthquake, very unsettling earthquake predictions for the west coast of Mexico or the U.S.
These coming from Jack Coles, and I'll tell you more about those over the next few days, it figures.
Inevitably, when I take a vacation, any sort of vacation, stuff happens.
That's the way it is.
So, I'm going to bring my, my mom is here visiting, and I promised, and so at the bottom of the hour, and I will bring her on the air.
You can talk to Ma Bell.
Uh, here we go, let us find out, uh, what is going on in Los Angeles.
First time caller line, you're on the air, good morning.
Yeah, I'm calling from Hollywood, and ABC reported there was a car bomb.
A car bomb?
Yeah, in Hollywood, and they evacuated an area of Hollywood.
Uh, when did that?
That just happened tonight.
I was listening to your show and I heard it, KBC announced it, like it was shortly after... Like at the top of the hour?
Yeah, I think it was after, shortly after midnight.
So there's already an evacuation underway?
Yeah, a certain area of Hollywood.
And I also wanted to say, when, um, were you supposed to find out from Ed Dames the, uh, Harper situation?
Or Kramer, I'm sorry, Kramer situation.
Kramer, uh, well, I don't know.
You know, they go to work, and it takes a lot of work.
I'm not a remote viewer, but I know the projects take some time.
So, a matter of days, and obviously, you know me.
The minute I know, you will know.
Right on.
Well, I'll try and say, um, have a good time on your vacation.
Aw, thank you.
Very kind.
Thank you very much for the call.
And, uh, so, anybody else out there confirming that news of a, uh, a bomb or an area evacuated in Hollywood?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, my name's John.
Hi, John.
I'm calling from Los Angeles.
Yes, sir.
I also can confirm the report about the bomb threat that was, well, allegedly some car windows blew out of a car, and there was some sort of evacuation of the area, which is kind of similar to what happened a couple of weeks ago.
And that's all I really know about that.
Okay, so far though, with regard to massive unrest or anything?
Oh no, and I don't think that has anything to do with the O.J.
thing either.
I think that's completely unrelated.
Yeah, it could be totally unrelated, sure.
I'm sure it is unrelated.
Reaction generally to the O.J.
thing?
My personal reaction?
Sure.
I am so sick of hearing about that thing.
I am so sick and proud of it.
Yeah, I know.
You know, I just could care less, to be honest with you.
I'm really glad it's over, and I hope that all this peripheral stuff that's going to be related to All of the rest of it is just going to die and be done with as soon as possible.
It won't happen in our lifetimes.
We will be burdened hearing about the O.J.
Simpson thing until we die and then our children will read about it.
Oh yeah, you might be right about that.
I'm sure I am.
Can I ask you another thing?
Sure.
Can you cut the cat out of the bag about the KAPC thing as far as how you guys are going to work that out?
No, the cat has to remain in the bag until KBC calls me and tells me.
I mean, I know what's going on, but I can't talk about it.
Well, the one thing I think would be a good compromise is that you guys could preempt Mr. KBC's show if you guys have a guest.
And otherwise, if it's open lines, then, you know, let him have his show until midnight.
Right?
Good compromise?
No, no, you can't do programming that way.
You know, I have the time.
Do you know how I get guests?
Sometimes I get them ten minutes before airtime.
Do you know that ten minutes before airtime tonight, I talked to a guy.
This is the truth.
You'll love this one.
Do you have any idea where Wilmington, California is?
No, I don't.
I don't either.
But I talked to a guy up in Oregon who said that there was, a few days ago, a big UFO bunch of sightings in that area.
And get this.
Brace yourself.
A 1950's vintage automobile fell out of the sky in Wilmington, California.
And they roped off the whole area, and nobody knows much about it, but I talked to a man who does know about it.
Now, my immediate question was, Ford or Chevy?
But there is no report on Chevy.
But I'm serious.
Some kind of automobile.
I didn't see any of the news stations.
Well, that figures.
When do you ever hear on news stations about what I talk about?
Fair enough.
Well, I appreciate your time.
Thank you very much for the call.
And on our first time calling a line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello there.
Going once, going twice, gone.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hi, Governor Arnett.
This is John up in Dublin.
Hi, John.
Sorry I missed listening to Mr. Forbes last night.
Did you have any questions from the audience?
No.
No, we had 30 minutes, so I pummeled him with every good question I could think of.
Okay, well, if you talk to him again, he mentioned about how the government figures their budget.
You might ask how CPA figured the Budget Corporation took a course in public accounting.
I was amazed at the greatest, you might say, lying available to the United States.
Okay.
And on OJ, I know you sort of are wondering about this too, and I'm wondering, isn't it double jeopardy?
Well, yeah, there is that aspect to it, but no, because one is criminal and one is civil.
So, it would only be double jeopardy if it were a double criminal trial.
Now, when you talk about the trial of the officers, then you're talking, in my opinion, what amounts to double jeopardy.
You remember, Justice Department came in and said, oh no, no, no, this verdict is no good, and they had another trial.
That was double jeopardy.
Yeah, I hear you and I agree with that, but it seems like his is too The laws, I think, need to be reduced.
Um, the law is reduced.
All right, well, thank you.
I'm generally for that.
Uh, International Line, whoops, you would have been on the air.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hi, Art.
This is Jeff from Los Angeles.
How you doing?
Pretty good.
Um, everything's pretty peaceful here, I have to say.
Um, I was down on the front lines today at the, uh, courthouse.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh... Were you there when OJ came out?
Uh, yeah, I was.
Was there more clapping or more booing?
A lot of booing.
There was a lot of booing when he drove up in his Suburban with his bodyguard.
It was interesting after the verdicts were announced and everyone kind of dispersed on the front yard of the courthouse and the media just jumped on everybody and it was kind of like The atmosphere was almost like we were all dismissed from graduation.
And we were citizens again, you know?
And we had new hope.
So they were eager to find out our perspective.
Let me ask you this.
Does it really represent justice if two lives were taken?
The unanimous verdict of this civil jury.
Then does the money really represent justice or does it just mitigate a little bit?
I think you're probably correct that it's not really justice, but I think there's a broader, a larger perspective or reality that O.J.' 's a part of that he hasn't had to deal with yet.
The Cosmos?
Yes.
I would have to agree with you.
That trial yet awaits.
Fortunately, we won't have to watch that on CNN.
Yeah, but it's very peaceful and It wasn't at all like after the criminal trial where people were jumping and screaming with joy and getting crazy.
It was very civil after the verdict was announced.
Very civil for a civil trial.
Yes.
All right.
Thank you very much for the call.
And on our international line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
This is Jessie from Clearwater, D.C.
How you doing?
Pretty good.
How are you?
Fine.
Sounds like you're having a pretty good show tonight, all that OJ crap.
Well, yeah.
Look, maybe this will be it.
I don't know.
I'm getting pretty sick of hearing about it.
Anyway, the thing I phoned to ask you about, I was wondering if you'd heard about a man named John McConnable.
He wrote a book called Mind Trek.
Sure.
He's a remote viewer.
Yeah, I just saw him in the strangest place today on Canadian talk show.
Really?
Yeah.
You mean the conservative Canadians are beginning to interview remote viewers?
What is the world coming to?
Well, I don't know.
I was trying to tape it for my dad.
I'm trying to explain this all to him about what remote viewing is.
Yes.
And he's thinking about that seaweed and bead rattling psychics, right?
You know what?
I think you just hit on something.
Wouldn't it be cool if we had remote beating?
Who do you think would deserve to be remotely beaten?
O.J.?
See?
Here you go.
Adding on.
Piling on.
Alright.
Oh, well, it's just like a soap opera.
I mean, my God, it's been on Canadian news since the Boko case.
Oh, really?
So how much has there been in the news there in Canada about O.J.?
Well, an obscene quantity.
Really?
I don't think anybody really gives a damn.
Nobody's ever going to find out what really happened.
Yeah, you're exactly right.
It will be debated for years.
Now we've got a legal situation where he's been exonerated.
Well, my son won't.
No?
No.
Every time O.J.
comes on, I have to turn the TV off or send him out of the room.
Good for you.
And that's crack-pickling the person's brain to begin with.
Pickling the person's brain.
dead and gone buried our children will be arguing about it.
Well my son won't.
No?
No.
Every time OJ comes on I have to turn the TV off or send him out of the room.
Good for you.
And that's crap pickling the person's brain to begin with.
Pickling the person's brain.
I like the remote beating idea.
Yeah well that sounds pretty good.
I got a couple ex-husbands that would be pretty good candidates, too.
Let me rethink this.
All right, thank you very much for the call.
Take care.
Remote beating.
That'd be great, wouldn't it?
Take this.
Take that.
There'd be an unseen force.
First time caller locked and you're on the air.
Hello.
Art.
Yes.
This is Jim in Redondo Beach.
How you doing?
I'm doing okay.
It's an honor and a pleasure.
Thank you.
I work here for a local utility company.
I've been out in the streets and everything's very quiet.
I don't see any problems at all.
That's what we want to hear.
The only thing that I'm really surprised is listening to all the local radio stations and including your friend Mr. KBC is the separation along racial lines again.
It seems like it's really quite divided still.
Of course.
I mean, really, what did you expect?
Well, I thought it might ease up a little bit.
In other words, you believe in miracles?
Yeah, I guess so.
No, it's not that way.
That'll be divided along racial lines forever.
That was guaranteed with the first trial, and I mean guaranteed.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, this is Darren calling from Reno.
Yes, sir.
Remote beating, I like that.
Yeah, who would you like to have remotely beaten?
Oh, I don't know, maybe Clinton?
I don't know.
The President of the United States?
I'm just joking.
Jerking and jumping around in the Lincoln Room as he's beaten by an unseen force?
You know the car falling from the sky?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty interesting.
I was wondering if you ever caught any of Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World?
No, but what comes to mind is Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Do you remember the beginning of that movie?
Do you remember when they were out in the... I think it was the Negev Desert, wasn't it?
And there were all these World War II vintage airplanes out in the desert?
Yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah.
That's why I thought this car thing was really cool.
Yeah.
R. T. C. Clarke had a couple of shows on.
I don't know if you've ever heard of any of this stuff, but there's been a lot of... I guess it's like a paranormal phenomenon where a lot of Yeah, I've heard of all that.
Frogs?
Oh yeah, it's rain frogs.
Ice?
Yeah, but rarely 1950s vintage automobiles.
That one's new, and if I can get to the people, and I think I can, to interview about this, I'm going to.
Tonight?
Or... No, not tonight.
Okay.
Not tonight, unless I get really lucky.
And if you folks are out there who want to talk about this, fax me your number.
But I did talk to somebody in Oregon, and he's digging up the people for me.
Great.
He knows them.
All right?
All right.
Thank you very much.
Can you imagine that?
A 1950s vintage automobile just clunk out of the sky.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
I'm on my way to Phoenix, steering the car.
Just wanted to Uh, let's talk a little bit about, uh, what's happening with, uh, the Randall Kramer case, uh, or the, uh, Kramer case.
Well, it is as we left it.
Uh, turn your radio off.
Okay.
It is as we left it, uh, when we last talked to them.
Then, of course, I talked to Ed Dames, and he's going to work, so when we find out about that, it'll be on the air.
Okay, I was just wondering, is it somehow, some way, the Hale-Bopp?
Bopp.
Hale-Bopp.
Bopp.
Not Bob.
Bob is a friend of mine in San Jose.
Hale is one half of a comet called Hale-Bopp, B-O-P-P.
Okay, I was wondering, there was so much with that, and then the Kramer case comes along, it just seems so coincidental.
How do you see them as related?
I don't know, Art, it's just with the timing of having Kramer, Because I hadn't been listening for a couple weeks, and then all of a sudden you came on with Kramer.
Now, if you want a coincidence, talk about what Mr. Kramer is alleged by his sister to have said about a supernova.
Right.
That is incredible.
And a gravity wave.
Then you're talking about some serious coincidence.
I think your show is a gravity wave, Art.
Thank you, my friend.
Okay.
Take care.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hey, this is Curtis from San Diego.
How you doing?
Okay.
Finally, he's guilty.
I'm glad, but it's a shame that he wasn't found guilty like he should have been in the first trial.
Legally.
So, you know, if the question is, has justice been done, then I don't see how you can say yes.
Yeah, there's a mitigation here.
It's a little bit better, but not justice.
Not for two murders.
And I don't know how we can change the law to where he could be retried Would you really want to do that?
Well, I think they should have just let it... He's lucky, really, to be alive, because that cop, during that chase, saved his life.
He was going to kill himself.
Well, you know what?
Most people with a gun in their hands, and the will to kill themselves, do.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and I'm wondering why that was never let into evidence, that phone call.
Because he sounded guilty.
Yeah, I wondered about that myself.
And I still don't understand why it was not admitted into evidence.
The whole chase thing and the phone call.
I agree with you, sir.
And I appreciate you calling.
All right, see ya.
All right, take care.
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All right, coming now from Long Island, New York, my mom.
And here she is.
Hello, Ma.
Hi, Trey.
Hi.
And everybody should know, Trey is the nickname that I was given when... Well, really at birth.
And I was very interested to read an article about Bill Gates the other day and to discover that his dad calls him Trey.
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
Yeah.
It's a not bad connection to have, I suppose.
Not bad at all.
Hey, Bill.
Trey.
So my family has always called me Trey.
My mom lives on Long Island in a little town called... South Old.
South Old.
Right.
South Old.
And you listen to what radio station back there when you can hear my program?
WELI, and it's not when I can listen to it.
I can hear it beautifully across the sound from... I think it's Hamden.
Hamden, Connecticut.
Yes.
That's WELI.
Thank you WELI.
And my mom was a Marine.
That is until I guess I ended her career.
Absolutely.
I was what ended her career.
Yes, you were.
There's been a recent big controversy at Camp Lejeune, which is where I was born.
Right.
So we were talking about that the other night, and we've got listeners there too.
I was in North Carolina for how long?
How much of my life did I spend in North Carolina?
Oh, just a couple of months actually, and then we went back to Connecticut.
Uh, moved quite a bit, so we... Oh, half-scatched all over the country.
That's right.
So, uh, I had a fax from somebody here a little while ago and said, how could you possibly allow Arthur to go into the Air Force after you and, uh, punch Dad with the Marines?
Uh, we didn't really have anything to say about it.
That's right.
That's exactly right, folks.
However, I have nothing against the Air Force.
Thank you.
This is great.
Thank you.
Alright, what I want to do is give the audience an opportunity to ask of you whatever questions they will.
And I've begged them to be reasonably polite.
Yes, be kind.
I'm petrified.
Um, let's see, your visit here has, we have updated your computer?
Oh yes, went in for major surgery the morning after I arrived.
And it now has all new organs.
Organs?
I couldn't be happier.
It also now has Windows 95, folks.
96.
Well, with the updates, 96.
That's right.
The infamous Windows 95 and 96.
Alright, let's go to the audience and allow them to ask you questions and see what it is they ask.
Uh, with some trepidation, he pushes the first line and says, East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello there, where are you?
Uh, Iowa?
Iowa.
I'm from Iowa.
Yes, sir.
Hi.
Hey, how you doing, Trey?
Thanks.
I got a question for Ma, Bill.
All right.
Say, uh, what is Art's favorite meal?
Oh, that's easy.
He likes the plainest sort of food.
I would say probably steak or hamburger.
You got it.
Yeah.
I also got a question.
Well, I'm still interested in those time machines.
I'd sure like to build one and then go back and see if O.J.
really did, you know, do what he did.
Well, even if you went back and saw O.J.
committing the crimes, it wouldn't change a legal trial that has concluded.
Yeah.
Because there is no double jeopardy.
So you'd come back screaming bloody murder, so to speak, and it wouldn't have any effect at all.
But you'd know.
Well, I'd probably take some pictures of it, and then they'd say they were phony, huh?
Uh, that's right.
That's right.
All doctored up, sir.
All right.
Thank you very much for the call.
Take care.
All right.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Yes.
Hello there, Art.
Hi.
How are you tonight?
Just fine.
And Ma Bell, I have a question for you.
Okay.
What is your view on the OJ thing, and do you think he did it?
These are good questions.
All right.
Well, I'll be absolutely honest with you.
I hope so.
I think you did.
Oh, absolutely.
Great.
What about today's civilian?
I was thrilled.
Oh, I was doing backflips out in the street.
This is Todd from Milwaukee Art, and I've been listening to you for a long time, and this is great.
Todd, I would ask you the same question I'm asking everybody else, and that is, today's verdict, pleasant as it is to contemplate, Does not really mitigate the legal verdict that much, does it?
In other words, if you're asking the question, is justice served?
I don't think this suddenly creates justice for two murders.
That's correct, but if I may be completely truthful, Art, and this may sound hateful, but my truth is, I mean, my feeling is that I really That's horrible, sir.
I know, but I'm sorry, Art.
I mean, he... Well, actually, I can't even let you say that.
Sorry.
We'll modify that, and maybe it'll do something in that category.
I apologize, Art.
That's what I feel, because he did it.
I understand, sir.
Alright, thank you.
Well, that also would not be justice.
You do not create justice With another injustice.
You don't correct one murder with another.
I don't think it works that way, anyway.
All right, East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning, Ma Bell.
Good morning.
Where are you, sir?
I am in New Jersey, and I just wanted to ask Ma a question.
What was Art's worst habit as a boy?
God, thanks a lot.
All right, my worst habit.
I think probably the fireworks business.
I like things that exploded, sir.
Anything.
Anything.
A pyrotechnic maniac.
That's right.
He also had another nasty habit.
Well, I could describe his bedroom first.
It was very small.
About a quarter of it was two bunk beds.
Another quarter was a pinball machine, which he insisted on buying.
And then there was just kind of room to walk.
through to get to the bed to the pinball machine and he used to electrify his metal doorknob
and then he'd call me yeah and i'd come from the kitchen and of course you know the rest
yeah she'd be out there twitching on the doorknob you're cruel art you're cruel
yeah so are you sir bye from jersey thanks for the question west of the rockies you're on the air with art bell and ma
bell hi oh good morning Good morning.
Good morning, Mabel.
Nice to talk to you again.
Thank you.
Again?
Again, I had the opportunity, the good fortune, to participate with you last year.
Oh, no kidding!
Where are you?
This is Tim in Denver.
Hi, Jim.
Hi.
I just wanted to ask your mother if she enjoys traveling.
Love it.
Absolutely love it.
And it's great here in Nevada.
It's so different than Long Island.
Of course, getting away from the winter wasn't half bad either.
Yeah, we have mountains.
And I wanted to tell Art that we have great steak houses in Denver, Art.
All right, my friend.
Enjoy your vacation.
Thank you, thank you.
Yeah, it's going to be about three days and Ma Bell here is going to be house-sitting for us.
And so you'll get a chance to enjoy the desert.
The only thing about the desert that worries me is the coyotes I keep hearing when I go for a walk in the morning.
Yeah, we have coyotes here, folks.
No question about it.
They don't bother you if you don't bother them.
I'm not about to bother them.
You don't chase down a coyote and kick him or bite him.
He'll be just happy to slink around and not bother you.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi, where are you?
I'm calling from Issa, Arizona.
Yes, sir.
On KFY.
I was hearing... Ma Bell, I was hearing... Would you turn your radio off first, please?
I'm sorry.
That's alright.
I was hearing, have you ever seen a UFO?
Yes.
A UFO?
Have I seen one?
No, have you?
No, never.
I'd like to.
And I really think they're out there somewhere, but none of them have crossed my path.
Well, I've seen one.
Only one.
But it was a big diggin'.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
How are you doing?
All right.
Ma Bell, how are you doing?
Fine, thank you.
Nice to listen to you.
All right, I just had a question concerning... Oh, by the way, this is Dave over here in Beaverton, Oregon.
Yes, Dave.
I had a question concerning two callers ago, I believe.
You beat down a little bit.
You're such a proponent of free speech.
What happened there?
Well, he advocated murder.
Oh, I see.
Not cool.
Okay, but...
Well, there's free speech, and then there's real trouble.
You can't advocate murder, sir, on the air.
Okay, well, good enough.
I appreciate that.
You can't advocate the overthrow of the U.S.
government.
I mean, there are some limits.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, well, I also wanted to put my two cents' worth on, and I agree with you on the The mitigation there.
I mean, sure, maybe O.J.
didn't win the civil trial, but still, I think Ron and Nicole still got a bum deal.
And while I'm glad that he is held accountable financially, I think a criminal case would have been a lot more satisfying.
Well, if you're talking about justice.
Exactly.
Yeah, but it mitigated a little bit.
So, you know, some people, it was at least a day to be happy about something that they haven't had much happiness about so far.
Yeah, maybe we'll go away for a while.
We can move on to something else.
Oh, I hope so.
Did you watch the OJ trial?
Yes, yes.
Well, not constantly the way a lot of people did.
I did constantly.
I know you did.
I remember you talking about it.
But I worked in on it and I caught the news at night.
I was pretty much up to date.
Okay.
All right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Hello.
God bless both of you.
Thank you.
Okay.
As far as Wilmington, it's on the west end of L.A.
Harbor.
Oh, is it really?
Now, this is where the 1950s vintage car supposedly fell from the sky.
We have yet to find out about that, but it's near L.A., anyway.
Yes.
I have no idea.
I haven't heard anything about that.
But, uh, something that your listeners may like, uh, you can get the Tenth Insight in the libraries now.
What's that?
Uh, have you ever heard of Celestian Prophecies?
Oh, yeah.
The Tenth Insight is the follow-up book.
Okay.
Um, glad to hear it, sir.
Thank you very much.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hello there.
Going once, going twice, gone.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Yes.
This is my first time.
This is Dean.
They call me Dr. Dean.
Okay.
Where are you, Dr. Dean?
I'm in Redlands.
Redlands, California.
Right.
All right.
I have a question for you, Mom, but I also have some information I'd like to pass on to you that might help Pomona.
All right.
Well, the question first.
Okay.
Yes.
Hi.
Hi.
You know, Art, your mom has a lovely voice.
She sounds like the sweetest person.
Thank you.
You listen a lot to Art.
I'd like to know what's your favorite subject?
He covers so many things.
I've listened to Art for a long time and he's gotten rather upset with stuff like Gulf War Syndrome and it looks like some kind of conspiracy.
But with aliens and all the different subjects, what do you like the best?
Well, is there a question?
What do you like?
Well, that's for me.
Well, I listen every night and I find the mix fascinating.
I mean, if you talked about politics all the time, I think I like politics, but I think I'd be bored.
And this show is a constant surprise to me.
Me too.
That's true.
My dog, my dog likes it too.
Art, I've been listening to you since you were on Katon.
That was a long time.
Yeah.
You said you had some information.
Yes.
Are you familiar with Perceptions Magazine?
I'm sure you've been contacted.
Do you have a copy?
Not presently, but I know the magazine.
Why?
Okay, well, they have an 800 number.
You can just find them at Culver City.
But a year ago, September issue, Dr. Suzanne Hennig wrote an article About meeting Dr. Sam Chachua from Australia that became a medical doctor at 19 years old with cures for everything.
Well, they probably killed him then, right?
Ah, just about.
Alright, well that's the story.
He goes down with the carburetor that gets 100 miles to the gallon and all the rest of it when people come up with cures and cancer cures.
Why, the AMA generally has them killed when you come up with a carburetor that gets 100 miles per gallon.
The Detroit people have those people killed and confiscate the carburetors.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Hi, this is Don from Tennessee.
Hello, Don.
Hi, Ma Bell.
Welcome to the airwave.
Thank you, Don.
My question to you is, do you have the same fascination with the netherworld that your son does?
Yes.
Do you?
So it is somewhat hereditary there.
Or have you discussed it with him?
Maybe it's genetic, huh?
Yeah.
That could be.
I'm just, you know, I'm fascinated with things that I don't understand and that a lot of people don't understand.
I can't help it.
Yeah.
Now, I'm the same as you are, and I never even knew that my mother had the same fascination with her stuff until maybe five or six years ago.
Well, have you ever noticed, sir, that there's a lot of things that you don't learn about your parents?
Well, there are a lot of things in this world, thank you, that we don't understand.
And this is one factor right there that I didn't discover until, like I said, just a few years ago.
And I had no idea that she was like that.
Well, there are a lot of things in this world, thank you, that we don't understand.
And they're the ones that I'm interested in.
The ones that are obvious, I mean, we could sit here and talk about O'Driscoll.
Simpson until we got blue in the face, and that wouldn't be very long either.
But there are lots of other things in this life that are fun to investigate that we don't understand.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Hi.
My name is David from Selma, Oregon, and I'm glad to be on the phone with Ma Bell and yourself, Mr. Bell.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'd like to share one more thing about the O.J.
trial.
I may have been wanting to get off my chest for a while.
All right.
Uh, I used to live a caddy corner on the other side of the block from when Nicole and Ronald were murdered.
And I was there that night, but my mom had passed away, I don't know, a couple years before that, but I was still very depressed about it.
And I saw two vehicles leave the scene.
One was the white Bronco.
And, you know, and I followed them.
I saw them across the street.
Yvonne, come on now.
If you'd done all this, you should have been in contact with... I have!
You have?
I'm a lousy witness because of my memory problem at that time being depressed.
So they didn't want to use you?
That's right.
Anyway... You could have turned the case.
I definitely could have, but I was just so depressed that I just... Anyway, I'm glad that your mom is around, and I'm glad for that.
I did have one quick question for her.
Alright.
I appreciate you getting that off my chest, too.
Go ahead.
When did he first show interest in radio?
When did he first show interest?
Oh, it goes way back.
I could go back to three years old when he was fooling around with my electrical appliances, cutting the plugs off and so forth.
But his first real interest was ham radio.
It started at about 12, didn't it?
About 12.
I think you drove me To Philadelphia, where I took my first ham test.
That's right, and he went on from there until he finally got his general license, and I don't know what after that.
Advanced.
Advanced.
So I've been a ham all those years, consistently.
You still are.
I really did do a lot of strange things when I was young.
I electrified people and blew things up.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hello.
Oh, hello, Mrs. Bell.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
Hi.
If your son hadn't been Art and he had been O.J.
or President Clinton, would you still love him?
Of course.
Doesn't a mother always love her child?
I think so.
I mean, I can't speak for all the mothers in the world, but... Would you stop loving your child if your child did something bad?
I think blood does have its limits.
Well, I'm not so sure that it does.
Well, you know, everybody's different, and it may well be that that's how you would be, but no matter how awful a thing somebody who is your sister, brother, mother, father, son does, I don't think that changes the blood connection.
Well, I think it goes back to blood.
Blood being thicker than water, as they say.
If you're related to somebody that closely, you can't just write them off.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
I mean, you certainly are disappointed with them.
Of course.
It's a tragedy and all the rest of that, but gee, you don't just unlove them all of a sudden.
Or if you do, I don't know how you do.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Mrs. Bell, it's really a pleasure to hear you on the radio.
Thank you.
I remember when Art got 400 affiliates.
No, you don't.
I don't have 400 yet.
You mean 300.
Maybe it was 300, but you were on the radio for a little bit on the greeting that everybody gave to him congratulating him, and I thought how wonderful of a person you are, and I just really want to thank you for giving birth to such a wonderful person as Art.
My question, I've got a couple of them.
What do you really think of Ramona, your daughter-in-law?
Well, I've talked about that before.
Actually, I think very highly of her.
We're not terribly close because we're so far apart geographically, but she's a wonderful gal and I think Trey is very fortunate to have her.
Does she take as good a care of your son as you would like her to?
You bet she does.
She's his secretary, his wife, his mistress, his...
All of that and more.
We're going to break here.
We'll be right back from the high desert.
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That's exactly what it is. Good morning, everybody. I'm Art Bell.
The O.J. Simpson civil trial results are in, and the verdict is, pay up.
The rest of the verdict will be considered beginning Thursday.
That's the big news.
President's State of the Union address.
I don't know how big the news is there.
Not too much comment on it.
My mom is here.
And for the next half hour, we are going to continue to take questions from the audience for my mom.
That'd be Mom Bell, I guess.
So we'll get back to that in a moment.
Alright, well, my mom is here.
Her real name is Jane, by the way, but everybody calls her Ma Bell, and so we'll call her Ma Bell, and here's a fax.
Dear Art and Ma, please, please, please, let's not talk about the O.J.
civil trial any more than we have to.
I have a question for your mom.
Art, it is.
What is the funniest thing your son ever did around the household?
See, can I ask minor questions, non-embarrassing questions?
No.
So what is the funniest thing I ever did around the house?
Well, there were lots of them, but one thing I remember was when you were about two years old and I put you down for your nap in the afternoon and put the hook on the door because you had a tendency to climb out of your crib and take off.
Freedom.
Freedom.
But I forgot that particular afternoon to lift the hook.
And all of a sudden you were missing and my heart stopped.
But I looked outside and couldn't see you.
Then I happened to look down the row of houses and I saw a circle of people standing around
looking down and I figured that something horrible had happened to you.
There I was flattened like a flat cap on the road.
So I ran as fast as I could and I arrived to find my neighbor standing around you looking
down at you naked as a peeled banana.
So I had traversed the block naked, huh?
Yes.
You took your nightclothes off and left that way.
So I had to walk you back.
There are some things, I think, that are better not remembered, that our brain blocks out, you know, and I don't remember that.
Well, mothers remember those stories.
Right.
All right.
Well, if you have questions for my ma in the next half hour here, fire away.
Here we go.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hello.
Hello there.
Hi.
I actually got the radio off for a change.
Good for you.
Where are you, sir?
Idaho Falls.
All right.
I actually talked to you before a couple of years ago when I was in Salt Lake.
Oh, yes.
We talked for a couple of hours about AM radio.
Oh, yes.
But anyway, I wanted to ask your mom, and ask you too, I guess.
What her reaction was about the She thought of the little pirate radio escapade.
Well, she really wasn't around when I did that.
I was in the Air Force when I did that whole pirate radio thing.
Right.
I remember reading about it in your book.
Right.
That occurred in the Air Force, and I was at Amarillo Air Force Base at the time, so I was off on my own getting in trouble by that time.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Art and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Hi, Art and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Hi, what I was going to ask is something, this is like a family program, because you have family on now, and I have a sibling who does witchcraft, and she makes me give her money, but she's alright, really, but I don't know how to break the spell.
How would you do that?
And also, do you believe in UFOs?
Well, that's already been asked.
Okay.
The answer is I do.
Okay.
And what do you do about a sibling who is a good sibling, but she's like what Newt Gingrich called Mrs. Clinton?
Should I get her a counseling session with Newt Gingrich?
I don't know.
She seems to be doing alright for herself if she has you coughing up money.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Art Maubel.
Hi.
Hi there, Art.
I'm from Stockton.
Yes, sir.
And, uh, about a week ago, you talked about, uh, Hellbop and, uh... Hellbop!
Bop.
I'm sorry.
And, uh, you said that, uh, well, people said that they were able to see it now?
Yeah, sure.
It's, uh, oh, I don't know, a little better than 10 degrees above the horizon about an hour before sunrise in the morning, sir, so go out and take a look.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Art Bell and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Well, I think a lot of it came from his dad.
San Francisco, yes sir.
You betcha.
Hey listen, I knew you were a cut up when you were growing up.
No question in my mind.
Had to be, huh?
Had to be.
In any case, I was going to ask Maribel there, who did you get that from?
Her or Pop?
Okay, that's a fair question, I guess.
Well, I think a lot of it came from his dad.
But, yeah, I think most of it did, actually.
I think my dad was a big practical joker.
Right, right.
Well, I guess so.
I guess that's right.
Huh, that's a good question.
Well, all mothers hope their sons will do well, but to be absolutely truthful, I did not expect this meteoric rise of his, and I think he's a little bit surprised himself.
Very.
Very.
That's the truth.
I really don't understand, and I'm not even sure I want to, you know, why it's working so well.
Who knows?
I don't know.
And I try not to dissect it.
So that's an honest answer to that.
No, I didn't expect it.
It just happened.
It's really nice that it happened.
I try not to, you know, pull it apart and understand it.
Maybe if I did, it wouldn't work.
The formula seems to be successful, and it probably is.
Better to do just what you're saying, to leave it alone and just... Just do it.
Hope it keeps... Just do it, is my attitude.
Wildcard, don't think about it, just do it.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Art Maubel.
Hi.
Yes, Maubel, I want to thank you for your son.
This is an old lady that stays up all night listening to him, and then I sleep in the daytime.
I do the same thing.
Well, I wanted to ask you, I've been just absolutely desperate to get a hold of you.
To tell you about a program I heard here in Wichita, the last hour of it, it's a three-hour program, last Sunday night, he had a doctor on by the name of Richard Boylan.
Have you heard of him, Mark?
Oh, I've had Richard Boylan on many times, sure.
Well, he was on that show and he's written a new book called Project Infamy.
That's right.
And he was telling about What he was telling about was exactly what the man that was supposed to be on your show that both of the people didn't have on there that caused such a reaction.
Did you know that?
You're talking about Hale-Bopp and all that?
No, UFOs.
UFOs.
Dr. Richard Boylan, yes, is very involved and I've had him on several times.
Have you heard of him and what he has to say lately?
Well, I haven't had him on since his book has come out.
Look, I didn't hear the first of it, but he was speaking of the government not going to announce the UFOs, he was leading it up to a team of 13.
They're made up of all kinds of people, no corporations, business, they're government people.
Yeah, BMJ-12 probably.
and uh... that there will be a meeting with these people and uh...
in april before april either this week or next
Well, I'll tell you what I'll do, dear.
I'll have Richard Boylan on.
How's that?
Okay, get him.
Do you need his number or anything?
No, no, no, no.
I've got his number.
Well, I'm dying to know the first two hours of the show.
All right.
Thank you very much.
We'll see if we can get ahold of him.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Maubel.
Hi.
Hello there.
Going once, twice, three times, gone.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Hello.
Boy, I always had about, uh...
Probably 10 cents every time I try to call you.
Well, here you are.
Thanks.
I'm Gary from Traverse City, Michigan.
Yes, Gary.
And I'd just like to know, you know, I've heard in your ads that you're saying the weather is going to get worse and we can't get much more snow up there than what we've had already.
Yeah, it's been a rough winter for you, hasn't it?
Yeah, it has.
You know, I've heard your advertisements and, you know, It's going to get worse.
You know, where do you get that from?
Where do I get it from?
Just a feeling and the facts.
I mean, you know, it's being documented year by year now.
Every hurricane season is worse.
Every summer is hotter.
Every winter is colder.
You know, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to divine the weather is worsening.
Right.
Yeah, but I don't understand.
Last winter, we didn't have as much snow.
And now it's, you know, it's a lot worse.
Well, it depends on what the jet stream is doing, and if you look carefully at the jet stream, you will see that it is beginning to twist and riff, and as Ed Dames has suggested, in spots touching the deck.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art and Ma Bell.
Hi.
How you doing, Art?
How you doing, Ma?
Hi.
Hi.
All right.
Art, do you know that you were on Shortwave a while back?
No, I didn't know that.
Yes, sir.
You were a little station out of Nashville ahead.
I think a fella by the name of Brother Stare had you on there, talking about that Vatican program you had there.
Oh, you mean he was talking about it?
Yeah, he had the tape of your show playing.
Oh, he did, huh?
Yeah, I listened to that and I said, whoa, he's on Shortwave.
Well, they do strange things out there.
Yes, sir.
And I was listening to your show with I do the same thing.
I just couldn't believe some of the stuff he was saying.
I was wondering if your mom believes all this stuff that sometimes these guests come on
and they say some pretty wild things.
I wonder if she's believing all that stuff or just kind of going, well, maybe, maybe not.
Well, that's the way I go, maybe, maybe not.
But you can answer for yourself.
Well, I do the same thing.
I take some with a grain of salt.
I try to keep an open mind.
I find it all fascinating to listen to.
Yeah, that's a good answer.
I mean, that's really me too.
I don't take anything as gospel any more than I do from our politicians.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Art and Ma Bell.
Hi.
Hi, Ma.
Hi.
How are you?
I'm fine, thank you.
Couldn't be better.
This is Dave.
I'm here in Pahrump.
Oh, you're in Corum!
Yes, welcome to our city.
Thank you, it's a lovely place.
Isn't it, though?
Sure is.
Oh, I just love it.
And I'm so glad I live so close to ours.
It makes things so much more convenient.
We probably get good reception.
Well, you know, actually, I have a problem with it.
You know, he had this Wayne Green.
Dr. Wayne Green?
Not doctor, just Wayne Green.
Oh, well, he's a PhD.
No, he isn't.
Well, at any rate, he had him on, and I personally wrote to him, and he gave me some suggestions.
And you know, Art, I'm really interested in ham radio.
Yes?
And if you know any information on how to get started or whatever?
Well, yeah, sure I do.
There's a ham club here in Pahrump, and if you'll go to the post office, you'll see the meeting dates, and that's a way to get started.
Oh, great.
All right.
Go down to the post office, the main post office.
You'll see notices up there.
Oh, that's great.
Okay.
Hey, Ma.
Was Art a good kid when he was growing up, or was he really that big of a troublemaker?
Well, I think he was a typical American boy.
I mean, he certainly wasn't good all the time, and I don't think I would have wanted him to be.
I would have felt that he was a little... I was a troublemaker.
You say you were?
Yeah, I think so.
I have to go along with that.
Being honest.
Not all the time.
Yeah, not all the time, but a lot of the time.
These are the Rockies.
You're on the air with Art Maubel.
Hi.
Oh, Rochester, New York.
Art, Fred calling.
Oh, Fred, from where?
God bless both of you.
Thank you.
From where?
Rochester?
Rochester, New York.
Okay.
I'm an abductee.
I've got a few stories to tell you.
I've seen a white buffalo when I was nine years old.
I could go on forever, but I enjoy your program.
We'll get into it some other time.
All right.
I'm a great believer.
I believe in everything.
You do?
I also believe Jesus is coming to take us all home.
Well, he may be.
Yes, sir.
God bless you.
Hang in there.
Thank you.
All right.
Take care.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Art Marbell.
Hi.
Oh, here she is.
Oh, thanks.
What is your name?
Oh, I have a letter from you at home.
You do?
I think so.
I don't think it's from me.
I just totally racked my brain trying to think of the most embarrassing thing that I could
No?
ask.
Oh, thanks.
Of course.
I know, but hello Mrs. Bell.
You know I talked to you the last time that you were here.
What is your name?
Donnell.
Oh, I have a letter from you at home.
You do?
I think so.
I don't think it's from me.
No?
I don't know your address.
Well, I have been receiving, the last time I was here I received letters from some people
and I have still to answer them, but I have to apologize.
I have just gotten on the net.
Well, that's okay.
We understand.
Thank you.
Now, you know, I was thinking, you seem to have done such a fine job in raising your son.
If you had one piece of advice for young mothers today, what would it be?
Hmm.
And also, is there anything in your past to indicate that you've been abducted by aliens and planted with alien seed?
Well, and I might be the result of that, huh?
Because you know you're my favorite alien.
I understand where that question's going.
And what was the other thing?
Let's see, what did she ask?
Is she gone?
Yeah, she's gone.
Oh, I'm sorry.
There was something else.
I interrupted her, actually.
Was there...
Oh, was there anything?
She was trying to think of the most embarrassing question.
Oh, well.
Oh, well.
Too bad, Danielle.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Art Maubel.
Hi.
Good morning, Mrs. Bell.
Good morning.
I want to ask you about spankings, but I think Art is still sometimes a bad boy.
Well, to answer that thing about spanking, I answered that the last time I was on the AES.
I said you were hard to catch.
In other words, he'd do something and then run like a deer.
Uh-huh.
That may be kind of what he does sometimes now.
That's right.
Run like a deer.
And this is John in Las Vegas.
Yes, John.
And is Mrs. Bell coming out to Pahrump?
She is in Pahrump.
Oh, great!
I thought I heard you say she was calling from... No, no, no, no.
She lives in Long Island, but she's here in Pahrump now.
I see.
Well, welcome to Nevada, and I hope you have a wonderful visit.
Thank you very much.
It's a wonderful state.
All right, take care, my friend.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Maubel.
Hi.
Yes, good morning, Art.
Good morning.
Good morning, Mrs. Bell.
Good morning.
This is Don in near Nashville, Tennessee.
And Mrs. Bell, a question I have for you since you served in the military, the Marine Corps, I believe.
What thoughts have you had over the past year with all of the problems the Army has been having concerning female recruits?
And I know you served in the military in a much different time.
Did you, from your personal experience, ever notice any degree of that same type of problem when you were in the service?
You mean like sexual harassment, that kind of thing?
Yes.
Yeah, alright.
It's a good question, really, I suppose.
You were back, you were in the Marine Corps, you were one of the first women Marines, right?
Right.
You were a drill instructor.
Yes.
But, to answer your question, Sexual harassment, it wasn't even called that as far as I know when I was in the service.
It was called flirting then.
Yeah, we kind of laughed it off, you know.
If someone made that kind of remark, we treated it lightly and usually it went away.
So, the answer is really no.
Yeah, people tend to get very upset and sue about it.
Yeah, they go to court.
That's right.
So it wasn't a big deal then?
I didn't think so.
Or at least it was just handled between men and women.
Right.
Alright, first time caller on the line, you're on the air with Art Maubel.
Hi.
Hi, how are you doing?
This is Skip calling from Madison, Wisconsin.
Hi Skip.
Yes, welcome.
Yeah, first of all I'd like to say to Maubel, welcome and also I love listening to your show and the question she could not remember was that I'm curious.
I feel that I'm a well-educated man, etc., but I've had weird experiences in my life.
I feel that at nine years old I was visited by the Men in Black.
you have a question sure yeah i'm my question is to you are down
i'm i'm curious about that i feel that i made uh... well-educated man uh...
cetera uh... but i've had weird experiences in my life uh...
fielded at nine years old i was visited by the men in black uh... wine
they usually come to collect evidence of something Well, I saw something that I couldn't explain.
Well, maybe they collected the evidence from your brain, but you remember it, so maybe they didn't get it.
Well, perhaps, but all I know is I saw a ball of light in the middle of, outside of my street.
And I was in awe of this, and so it wasn't non-threatening to me at all.
All right, well, but the men in black, well, all right, look, we've got to get to this question because we're coming to the end of the time.
So advice to young mothers, Annie?
Well, I don't think I'm really qualified to give advice, but I'll take a crack at it anyway.
Having reached the point where my children are grown, and looking back, I would give them as much love as possible, and I know that's tough.
Because young people these days, usually the mother and dad are both working, which I didn't.
But I think love is the answer.
All right.
Well, probably love is the answer.
Ma, thanks for being on the show.
You're welcome, honey.
And that's it.
She'll be here for a few days, sort of house-sitting for me.
And I want to thank all of you for participating in this last hour with my mom.
It's always great to have her on the show.
And maybe in another year, we'll do this again, huh, Ma?
Love to.
All right, that's it.
We're going to break here at the bottom of the hour and we'll be right back.
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Now, here again, Art Bell.
Once again, here I am.
Good morning.
Yes, I'm probably inclined as an adult, as I was as a child, toward trouble.
It's my nature.
Anyway, it was a pleasure having my mom on the air.
It's been about a year, I think, or a little longer.
Somewhere in that area.
Just about a year.
And so, it's a pleasure to have her here.
Alright, back to the phones, open lines, anything you all want to talk about is fair game.
Obviously, with the O.J.
Simpson civil trial results, some people are going to want to talk about that, unavoidable.
There is a prediction by Jack Coles, or a likelihood of an earthquake along the West Coast.
Well, let me read you what I've got.
One large main signal Specific character low-frequency radio spikes was received by our instruments today, February 4th, yesterday at 5.30 a.m.
We feel there is a 75% chance of a 6-plus magnitude earthquake anywhere along the west coast of California down to South America.
Specific dates for the watch?
February 6th through the 13th.
So, he continues, we will continue to monitor Magnetic anomalies and very low frequency radio wave signals.
Main radio signals come in 1, 4, 9, 16, and 25 days prior to events.
We live in earthquake country, so being prepared is always a good idea.
Jack Coles.
West of the Rockies.
West of the Rockies.
There we go.
You're on the air.
Hi.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning.
This is Gina in Pasadena, California.
Hello, Gina.
Yes.
And I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to speak to your mom because I had something funny to tell her.
Well, she's listening.
Okay, well, I forget exactly how old you are.
Me too.
You're roughly the same age.
You're within a year or so of my boyfriend.
And he was born in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
And you and him had almost the same childhood.
Really?
Him and his brother blew up things all the time.
Yeah.
And, you know, his mother would go and, you know, buy, she actually would go and buy them black powder.
Really?
And, uh, oh, they did all kinds of things, like taking toy cannons and putting touch, drilling touch holes in them and, you know, all that.
I built a lot of rockets that ended up to be more like bombs.
Well, they were, yeah, they were.
But some of them flew.
Look, I don't want to, I don't want to give a misimpression here.
Some of my rockets flew.
but what they would do is they would you know we would launch these things and
they'd uh...
uh... set it up so that the they put little soldiers on them you know
soldiers and they'd blow up you know way up or something like that
they were always doing stuff like that and i just thought it was so uh...
so odd. What i call fun as a young adult and now as an adult even
and i still enjoy it today we call terrorism
Really?
It wasn't actually a UFO experience, but I got the idea of what the mothership, in my mind, would look like.
And that was New Year's Day.
Because I live a block north of the parade route on Colorado Boulevard, and I watched that stealth bomber go over.
Oh yes.
And it just, you know, it literally went over Well, it's wingtip was probably a half mile, half block from my house, you know.
No kidding.
And just watching that thing go over, it was just so silent.
Did you get any photographs?
It was so slow.
Unfortunately, no.
I wish I had.
But that thing was just absolutely awesome.
And it was so silent going over.
And then when it, you know, it went several miles out, and of course, you know, turned around to come back.
And when it came back, it was just, it was like thunder.
And my mom up in Altadena could see it.
Going past the Rose Bowl, and she's like miles from the Rose Bowl.
And she could hear it from where she was.
The thing was absolutely awesome, and it gave me the idea of what the mothership would look like.
I like that, but moojoe bigger.
I've got you.
Alright, first time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, I was kind of wondering, what exactly is remote viewing?
It's like remote beating, only different.
Okay.
What do you imagine it to be, since you don't know?
Well, I really have no clue.
No clue?
Uh, if you'll listen toward the end of the week, you'll hear a good explanation Ed Dames will repeat, alright?
Okay.
Alright?
You listen for that.
I like the idea of remote beating.
That's cool.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, this is Donna.
Donna, I can barely hear you.
You'll have to talk right into your phone and yell at us.
This is Donna from Las Vegas.
OK, Donna.
About last week, you had a show on, and a caller called in about an asteroid.
Ah, yes.
That is a true story.
There is a close-Earth asteroid, and they're trying to plot it now and trying to look at it, but it has a possibility of colliding with Earth.
I've been scanning the news very closely, but I haven't heard anything.
Trust me, it's true.
I've been getting these letters from various workers for years, and they've been predicting this for eons.
Well, I personally think that it's because of the NBC program coming up, I think it's in this month, February, called Asteroid.
I think the people at NBC probably planned it.
Well, like I said, Mary's work is a famous career.
I understand.
Well, I can barely hear you.
I appreciate your call.
It is true.
Asteroids orbit around the Sun cuts close to Earth's path, according to JPL.
This is JPL.
And it is possible.
I think this thing is about two or three football fields in size.
Pretty big rock.
And should it hit It would destroy an area the size of L.A.
Now, I'm not saying it's going to hit L.A.
I'm just saying that is what they're saying.
That it would certainly destroy an area about the size of L.A.
So, I'm not surprised.
Nothing surprises me.
Asteroid?
Sure.
Why not?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
This is J.P.
from Sonoma County.
Hi.
Have you heard about our earthquake today?
I heard there were a couple.
What were they, in the three and four point range?
Yeah, but it was really strange because, well, I'm only two miles from the epicenter and it felt more like a five.
I'll bet it did.
Well, anytime you're near an epicenter.
I do think that we're in an earthquake window for the next week or so.
Well, I want to tell you something.
It's like, I've been in school since... I called you about a year and a half ago.
I'm 49.
I told you I was going back to school to study criminal justice and to be a cop.
And I've been in school since 8 o'clock this morning.
And you know, I'm exhausted.
And I've been in huge earthquakes.
But there's something about these two that has Alarmed me, and I feel we're going to have more.
I'm afraid to go to bed.
In other words, you're thinking they're precursors.
Yeah, I know when these things are going to happen.
On a radio station here, I won the Super Bowl.
I knew what the score was going to be without even thinking about it, and I didn't even know who was going to play.
And I told everybody all morning, this morning, there were going to be earthquakes.
And I've been in earthquakes so big that I couldn't even crawl on my hands and knees.
And those did not alarm me.
But these, today, I feel really, really weird.
A lot of people on edge, dear.
Oh, that's right.
Thank you very much.
I really think right now there are a lot of people on edge.
And we're in a window.
There are windows for earthquakes.
And we have just entered one.
But today, tomorrow, and for about the next week, according to Jack Coles through the 13th, I believe.
I may be sure of what I'm saying here.
The 6th through the 13th.
So, nothing would surprise me.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Mr. Bill.
How you doing?
Fine.
This is Larry from Cleveland, Ohio.
Yes, sir.
Nobody calls ever from Cleveland, so I'm glad to get through.
Ah, well, I'm glad you did!
Okay, very good.
One thing I wanted to say, the other night you were talking about the matter of, um, The weight of a soul.
Yeah, the weight of a soul.
Right.
What would happen if, you know, I mean, I'm sure you've heard of astral projection and stuff and all that.
Could that be scientifically measured?
Well, I suggested exactly that on the program.
Yeah, sure.
In other words, if the soul leaves the body in astral projection, then it should be possible to measure that.
It would be a very interesting experiment.
Oh, yeah, I just thought, you know, that it seems like, you know, somebody's trying to get people before they die, which is a very hard proposition, you know, to say, okay, your person's passing, can we weigh them?
You know, that seems like something you could actually scientifically do.
Well, the only... Kind of in the same realm as, you know, remote viewing.
Yeah, the disappointing thing for that, with that, for the volunteer would be they never get to understand or hear the results.
True.
Yeah, well, yeah, this is a definite, yeah, scientific exact science, I believe.
Yeah.
All right, enjoy the show, then.
All right, well thank you very much for the call, and take care.
You know, you'd never get to know the results, but I guess there is something about donating yourself to science.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
All right.
Sorry I missed you, Bob.
Semper Fi.
Oh, there you go.
Hey, I just wanted to let you know I've been trying to call you.
Are you on a cellular phone or something?
Yeah, I'm trying to stop at a good cell spot here.
Uh, North Dakota Highway Patrol.
Uh, so I'm just out cruising North Dakota tonight.
Beautiful 20-degree weather.
Well, you're breaking up terribly.
Okay, uh, I've stopped right here.
Okay, that's better.
Okay, uh, just wanted to... No, no, no, no, no, no.
Not gonna, not gonna watch, sir.
Sorry, uh, you'll have to find a better cell, that one.
Wasn't cutting the mustard.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, there.
Um, this is Todd, Vancouver, Washington.
Hi, Todd.
Hi, I just wanted to say I love your show.
It's great.
But I'm a high school student.
It keeps me up at night.
So now I sleep days.
I just thought I'd let you know that.
How can you do that if you're a high school student?
You can't sleep days.
Well, actually, when I get home from school at 2 o'clock, I sleep until about 9 o'clock.
Really?
Watch about an hour of television.
Really?
And come upstairs and listen to your show all night.
Holy mackerel.
I'd just like to say, great show.
Thank you.
Your parents let you do that?
Oh, well... Or they don't know?
I guess.
They probably don't know.
I mean, they probably wonder why I sleep when I get home, but... What's the matter with our boy?
Alright, thanks.
Thanks.
Take care.
Can you imagine that?
He's sleeping all the time.
Well, it's this program doing it, folks.
And I'm talking to his folks, just in case they're listening.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Oh, hi, Art.
This is Katie.
I'm listening to you on WLS in Chicago.
Hi, Katie.
Hi, your mom is charming and very articulate.
Yes, she is.
If I have anything, that's where it came from.
Obviously.
Well, there's a subject I've been interested in for a very long time.
Just before I started listening to your show, I heard a story about a man that had cloned I think it was a herd of sheep or something in Scotland.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, and I've been listening to your show and I thought for sure you had something on it for about a year now.
Oh, we talked about that.
Oh, I must have just missed it.
When the story came out, because obviously if you can clone sheep, the same technology can be applied to human beings.
Oh, yeah, or even parts of their body, you know, organs and what they would do for diabetes and Oh, it'd be great.
Well, I don't know if it'd be great for the clonee.
Well, uh, well... Plus, plus, plus.
Um, really, what is a clone?
In other words, would we regard a clone as a being without a soul, not a human?
Well, it depends on whether it was alive.
If you could just clone an organ, that would be great, right?
Oh, yes.
But what if you had to clone what amounted to a being to remove that organ from?
Oh yeah, that presents a lot of ethical problems, that's true.
Let me pose one directly to you.
What is your first name again?
Katie.
Katie.
Katie, let's say that you were dying of liver disease and you had a clone, a Katie clone.
Right.
And they were keeping this Katie clone in a sort of a, you know, an environment, sort of a static situation and You could get a liver from the Katy clone that would save your life.
Uh-huh.
Would you do it?
Well, I'm going to fudge on this a little.
As I understand, you can use parts of your liver and they'll regenerate.
No, I'm not allowing that.
This is the entire liver.
This would mean I'd have to zap the clone, huh?
You got it.
The Chinaman button.
I don't know, the clone button.
Hard to say.
It's like At Thanksgiving, who eats the turkey that they know, you know?
I don't know!
Good question, Art.
All right.
Well, anyhow, do you think you're going to have somebody on in the future?
Sure.
Oh, you can't tell me when, though.
No, no, but if I find somebody on the subject of cloning, we'll get them on.
Oh, well, thank you.
I love your show, anyhow.
Thanks, Katie.
All right, bye-bye.
See you later.
Sure.
If they can clone sheep, they can.
Now, whether they will or not is another question.
I frankly think that a lot of this kind of experimentation, Frankenstein style, is going on in secret, because of course you couldn't really conduct it, couldn't get away with conducting it in public.
But you can believe it's going on in private out there.
You know it is.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Didn't get a chance to talk to Ma Bell.
But I wanted to ask.
I was gonna ask her, but I suppose you can answer this question if you had an imaginary playmate when you were a kid.
And I got a joke for you, too.
Uh, no, I didn't.
I had real playmates.
Okay.
Um, you know what has red hair and a big red nose and red feet and lives in a test tube?
No.
Bozo the Clone.
Bozo the Clone.
Oh, that's awful, sir.
That's awful.
How about you?
Same clone question.
If you had a clone, and you needed a liver, or you were gonna pass away, would you take your clone's liver?
Uh, if he was gonna give it to me?
No, I didn't say anything about receiving a loving gift.
I said, take.
Take it, huh?
Yeah.
Well, it's either that or you die.
Hmm.
That's a hard question.
Come on, now.
You're beginning to really hurt.
Your liver is on its last legs.
You've got to make a decision.
I suppose once I started feeling the pain, I suppose I'd probably take it.
All right.
All right.
A good, honest answer.
Goodbye, clone.
Hello, liver.
First time caller line you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, hi.
Hi.
This is Sam.
I'll give my name to Sam.
Okay.
I've been listening to your program.
It's very, very interesting.
I do have to say that I have seen a flying saucer, and I did see this in my backyard, and I was with someone else when I did see it.
It was about as, oh, it was just gigantic.
It was about four times as big as my house.
That's big.
That big.
And about 350 feet up in the air.
So what did you do?
What did I do?
Well, I didn't have a lot of time to do anything.
This was about 30 seconds.
It was in a flat second.
You know, something that happens... Did it beam you up and experiment on you medically?
No, I don't believe so.
No, it didn't do anything like that.
It was just hovering.
And within a minute, it just took off.
Why do you think they do that?
Why do I think what does that?
Those saucers.
Why did they do that?
Well, this wasn't really a saucer.
You said it was a saucer.
Well, the reason I said that is because, you know, people think that UFOs are saucers.
And it wasn't really anything like that.
What was it like?
Well, it was, like I said, it was three times as big as my home.
You said that.
But if it wasn't a saucer, then what was it like?
It looked almost like a ship.
You know, a ship that you find in the ocean.
And it had all types of antennas.
You know, like big, huge antennas coming out of the top of it.
It had little portholes, light coming out of it.
Really?
And it was dark black and brown.
Did you see any beings through the windows?
No, I did not.
That sounds like something from 20,000 leagues under the sea, above the water.
This was 350 feet up in the air.
And it moved like nothing I've ever seen before.
But you know, there is one other thing that I have to say about it.
There was no sound to it.
Right.
Nothing.
Zero.
Zero.
Well, I don't know what to say about that.
What is your experience?
What did it do?
Just fly away?
I would say yeah.
I couldn't say it flew away.
It just moved so quickly.
Like that?
Exactly.
Well, I don't know what to say to that.
What did you see?
Well, I saw a triangular UFO that flew right over my head silently.
What color was it?
Black.
Black, brown?
Black, black, black.
Okay, was it humongous?
Humongous, yes.
How many feet up in the air?
About 150 feet above my head, and my wife was with me at the time.
We both watched it.
Exactly.
Flew right over our head.
Just like in Close Encounters.
Blocked out the moon, the stars, and came directly over our heads.
My one and only, and very close UFO experience.
Just one.
51 years old, folks, and one experience, but it was close up and real.
So I guess I decided I would report one of those things.
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I'm Art Bell. Great to be here. And we've got about two hours of open lines ahead.
And then, well then I'm off to an undisclosed Mexican resort community where I'm
going to have fun.
Alright, back to the lines we go.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Art?
Yes.
Yes, I've ordered and when are you going to be on Dark Sky?
Oh, I'll tell you all about that.
I just love that show.
I do too, but there's a bit of a glitch, I'm sorry to say, and let me explain on the air now.
I talked earlier today with Bryce Abel of Dark Skies, and here's the deal, folks.
They offered me a, what do you call it, a lead part, not a lead part, but just under the lead.
It would be not like last time, not a cameo appearance, but a sub, what is it, a sub lead or something like that?
There would have been very, very serious scenes involved, and there would have been two days of shooting.
Supporting role, my mom says.
Supporting role.
There would have been two days of shooting involved.
It would have been next Tuesday and Thursday.
Now, it's bad timing, because I'm going, you know, I've had a trip planned to Mexico now for quite a while.
I'm going to be gone for the balance of the week back on Monday night Tuesday morning.
So obviously having just taken some time off to then have to turn around and go to Los Angeles on Tuesday and Thursday for the entire days and missing more days on the air I didn't feel was appropriate so I'm not going to do it.
But I want to thank Bryce for the offer And we will do it in a future episode.
So obviously I would have missed a lot of next week.
And I could have done it, but I would have been gone too much.
And I'm already going to be gone enough as it is.
You may recall I had a trip planned similar to the one I'm about to go on.
And that was when Mona got sick.
My wife got sick with a very serious asthma attack.
So that trip got canceled.
This one we're intent on going on, and so that is the story with Dark Sky.
So they are going to recast the part of William Paley for this episode.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi there.
I just wanted to talk to Art Bell.
That would be me.
Oh, okay.
Oh, neat.
Okay, it's pre-recorded.
No, no, dear.
It is not pre-recorded.
You're live on the air now.
Don't listen to your radio.
Turn it off.
Oh, I should turn it off.
Okay, I just wanted to get your opinion on bullets, on ammunition.
I think that a really solid place to start with, you know, I know that we have way too many weapons being produced every single day, and I know that the country is, you know, we all have the basic right As granted to us in the Constitution, the right to bear arms and protect ourselves and our loved ones.
And what my point is, is that I think that people should be able to keep guns in their houses or in their cars, you know, albeit, you know, if only to protect themselves.
But I don't believe that people should be able to walk around in public You know, or have guns in any hidden fashion, in any way.
And I think that people who even possess guns in their own automobiles, I think they should have a special tag on their license plate or something, so that people would know that this particular person... Well, I don't know how bright an idea that is, because if you had a notice on your car, wouldn't people then break into your car to get your gun when you were not in the car?
Um, they might think twice.
And then you know what would happen?
Well, why?
I mean, there wouldn't be anybody in the car.
So they'd break in and steal the gun, because they'd know there's a gun there.
Well, it may be just a symbol of a permit to carry a weapon, whether it's, um, you know, in the car or... Not, huh?
Or not.
And also, I think that guns should be, um, should have You have to have safety lock or safety measures.
Yeah, that's right.
They're called safeties.
They have them.
Yeah, I think that you should have to have some type of a key or a code or something or voice command.
The trouble with that is, thank you, that if you need a gun, you need it quickly.
And some sort of key or lock, I can't imagine fumbling around with that in the dark when you're trying to use a gun to defend your life.
With regard to concealed weapons, putting a little advertisement on the outside of your car, or a decal on your butt, whatever the case would be, would sort of defeat the idea of a concealed weapon.
The idea of a concealed weapon is that it remain concealed, so as to not disturb the public.
A wild card line.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Yes.
All right.
Somebody called you earlier tonight.
He said something about one of the first attorneys for O.J.
Simpson.
His name is Robert Kardashian.
Well, I suggested Kardashian.
He was the one who was handed the bag or the suitcase.
And he said, no, that was some other attorney.
That's odd.
Anyway, I was curious to know if you had a chance to use your telescope yet.
Yes, to look at the moon, and some other things, but not to see a Hale-Bopp.
We've got a mountain range to the east that is between here and Las Vegas.
And right now, Hale-Bopp is in early morning or late morning sky toward the east, just 10 or 12 degrees above the horizon.
And so I've got to wait until it gets high enough.
Yeah.
Did you see the full moon by chance?
Um, well, actually, the full moon is not the best thing to view.
I don't know.
I thought it was.
No, it isn't.
I can see, like, four silver structures.
They kind of look like buildings from an airplane, like those metal ones you see on a farm.
Yeah, hangers.
Hangers, yeah.
What are those?
Do you know?
Yeah, they're UFO hangers.
UFO hangers.
Now, I believe that because I could see a road and there's a plateau.
It looks like there's a tunnel going into it.
And those buildings, they look like they're about, I'm just guessing, I'd say about four
or five miles apart in a perfect square, each building.
Perfectly lined up.
And yeah, and then further to the north, on the, it'd be your left side looking at it
from wherever you happen to be, you can see that road going up into there.
Yeah, there's a big... It's where the Greys have their barracks.
Is that what this is?
Okay.
I believe it.
I really do.
Sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, sir.
Thank you very much for the call.
Now, a half moon or even a quarter moon is better to look at.
Full moons are not good for telescopes.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
How you doing, Art?
Fine.
This is Ken from Yakima, Washington.
Yes, sir.
The question I wanted to ask you since it is truly open lines tonight, I was wondering, I know you're doing your
broadcast from your home.
Always.
And I was wondering how about you do that. Do you have a regular studio in your house then?
And is it beamed from, I mean, like from satellite to your house and have somebody pick it up then?
Yes, I have a studio here in my home, a room devoted for that.
Actually, my room is three things.
It is a broadcast studio, it is a ham radio, and a computer station.
So, I've got all three here.
And yes, the signal is beamed by satellite on what's called KU band from here to Oregon And then to New Jersey, and then back up again, and all over the place.
I see.
I see.
Well, could you give me some clues as to how I get started, or some books to read on it, or anything like that?
You know what?
I don't think there are any books on it.
I'll tell you how I got started.
Okay.
I just began hanging around a radio station until they got sick of me.
Oh, I see.
I see.
Now, there are broadcast schools you can go to.
I don't put a lot of stock in them.
I guess they're okay.
Oh, I see.
So I just, you know, I hung around until they got sick of me and they gave me a job.
Hey, that works!
Well, it worked for me.
Yeah.
Okay, thanks a lot.
I appreciate your time, and you have a great show, and good luck on your vacation.
And if I was you, I wouldn't go, since you say that you have such a past.
An absolute history.
I mean, you can almost depend on the fact that something Of great magnitude is going to occur in the next few days while I'm on vacation.
I mean, it's automatic.
Yeah, I'd agree with you.
And if I was you, I'd just stay home with your mother and visit.
Well, we've been doing that for a week.
Well, in any case, good luck and have fun.
Thank you.
It always happens when I go on vacation.
Now, I don't really understand the mechanics of that.
Quantum mechanics, probably.
But something either tragic Or big in some way, always occurs.
I'm just used to it now.
Maybe this will be the exception and it'll be nice and quiet.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Oh, hi.
Um, this is Kate from Dallas.
Hi, Kate.
And, uh, I have a, well, I guess a solution to your clone question.
Alright.
Um, well, if you clone someone, and it stems to reason that tomorrow they're not going to be an adult size, so they're going to have to go through the growth process.
Absolutely, yes.
So, you would, unless you're I don't know, I guess you could stick them in a closet or in a lab somewhere and not know who they are, but otherwise you're going to have basically a child that you have to raise.
Someone's going to have to raise the child before you could basically harvest anything, at least to a reasonable age.
That's a really horrible word.
Exactly.
I agree.
But I don't think that anyone could actually, could logically do something like that.
I mean, it just wouldn't make a lot of sense.
If you had a child that was born that needed an organ or something like that, someone might consider that.
I wouldn't personally.
In other words, you would not take from your clone?
No.
No way.
No.
But, an interesting thing is, I wonder if people who have learning disabilities or other
problems growing up, maybe they had a really rotten childhood or something like that, or
if they think that they could take their clone and raise their clone better than their parents
did, so basically they are raising themselves, and see if there is a better outcome.
very interesting uh... scenario i Thank you.
I would think that history would tend to repeat itself and that even though you would set out to raise your clone with all the benefits that you didn't have and all the love you didn't have or whatever it is you missed in your life, you would end up Repeating the same history, and doing to your clone as was done to you.
Raising the question, do we really ever learn?
Wildcard Line, you're on the air, hello.
Hello Art, this is Richard in Kelso, Washington.
Yes sir.
Art, I have to apologize to you.
I can't rest until I accept the record straight.
I called last week and told you about an article about cattle mutilations in GQ magazine.
I gave you a bum steer, pun intended.
The first half of the article seemed to promote Linda Howell's ideas.
I had just read the first half of the article and I went back the next day and it was a
hatchet job.
They centered around Linda Howell.
They did an extensive interview with her, the author did.
But he completely turned around the second half of the article and insinuated that nothing
Linda says can be believed because she doesn't give her tapes and books away, which is like
saying don't believe anything a doctor tells you unless it's free.
Just one question.
Yeah?
Is GQ magazine free?
No.
I read it in the In the library.
I understand that.
What I'm saying is, do they sell GQ magazine, or do they give it away?
Oh, no, they sell it.
They sell it?
Yeah.
Well, gee, I guess you could say the same thing about them, then, huh?
Yeah.
One interesting thing I learned in this article was, did you know Linda Howe was in the Miss America pageant?
No.
Yeah, yeah.
No, really?
Yes.
Well, of course, she's a very beautiful woman.
Yeah, I've met her.
She's very, very attractive.
Oh, yes.
No, I'm going to ask her about that.
I was wondering if you could get her Miss America swimsuit picture on your website.
I will ask her.
You bet I'll ask her next time I talk to her.
Your audience would love to see it.
Well, me too.
All right, I'll ask.
Thank you.
You've got to be kidding.
You've got to be kidding.
Linda Howe was in the Miss American pageant?
What, representing Pennsylvania?
Cool.
I will definitely ask her, and if she has a swimsuit photograph, or some memorabilia from that time, sure, we'll put it up there.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
How you doing, Art?
I'm doing all right.
The UFO you saw, was it silent?
Absolutely, yes.
Was it about the size of a football field or bigger?
About 150 feet or more from point to point on the triangle.
Oh, wow.
That could be like a silent Vulcan.
Could be.
Yeah.
That's it?
Well, I wanted to say that that's extremely rare in the United States to see one of those.
Oh, I thought so.
Yeah.
It's the only time I ever saw one.
You see hundreds though in Great Britain, though.
Do you?
Yeah.
They had a report in Great Britain a couple years back.
I was there last year.
Project Blue Book.
Yeah.
And the guy, the head guy there, determined that they were a threat to national security.
Really?
And the next day he was transferred.
Tough figures.
All right, sir.
Well, I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
Project Blue Book in Great Britain.
See, they always get transferred.
The evidence always gets confiscated.
At the last minute, men in black run in and take First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Bart.
How are you?
I'm fine.
I'm in Wilmington, California.
You are?
Yes, I am.
Have you seen any 57 Chevys falling from the sky?
No.
The worst thing about that, though, is the story it's making.
It's around the city.
Is it?
It is.
All right.
Now, what... You know, here's what I heard.
That something... Actually, a 1950s vintage Automobile fell from the sky somewhere there near Wilmington and they cordoned off the whole area with many times the size of a cordon of a typical crime scene and wouldn't let anybody in.
Now, what have you heard?
Apparently it happened near the docks because we're primarily at the harbor area.
I'm sorry, it happened where?
Near the docks where the ships come in.
Really?
Yes.
And that area is kind of, you know, really, people don't live down there.
But a lot of Longshoremen apparently saw something.
Because it was all around the Longshoremen Hall the other day.
And I heard people talking about it in the market this morning.
Well, actually, yesterday morning.
Then I hear you talk about it.
And I realize it's important because Art Bell mentioned it.
Well, I just, I got a fax which came through my publisher from a fellow in Oregon who knows the people Uh, down there, I guess, who saw it, or somehow were involved with it.
This is something I'm going to have to follow up on, uh, when I get back.
But, you're telling me the word is out there, uh, and circulating down in the Wilmington, uh, area.
Right, uh, it's, we're about 25 miles south of downtown L.A., and, uh, I've lived here my whole life, and we've only had, uh, UFO activity.
Well, that... Can you hold on?
Oh, no problem.
All right, stay where you are, and we'll come back to you after the break.
1950s vintage automobiles falling from the sky.
Not your everyday occurrence.
We'll be right back.
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Now, here again, Art Bell.
Well, once again, here I am, and we're gonna scoot back to our caller with reference to this... this car that appears to have fallen from the sky, or at least that is the story.
Somebody just wrote me a fax and said, The fifties vintage automobile that fell on Wilmington just has to be an Oldsmobile Rocket 88.
I don't know about that, but it is... What are people saying?
I mean, do they identify the kind of car at all?
They say it's just a fifties car.
Everyone has a different story.
Obviously, you know, when people tell one person it turned into another car, I've heard primarily a Chevy.
figures by a fifty seven Chevy more than likely yeah but as I had mentioned where
it happened that is down at the shipping docks right and Wilmington is what they
call the heart of the harbor right and pretty desolate down there at night and
there's maybe some people working but apparently it did happen because it's
making the rounds oh yeah have you seen UFOs? Yes I have. I've grown up here my whole life
I'm 33 and, uh, one time when I was 15, I did see one hovering over our backyard.
You know, you almost got to wonder if they didn't find, like, some couple in lip lock in the back seat.
Lifting into Elvis.
What a story!
I'm telling you, it's getting to the point where, uh, nothing surprises, 57 Chevys, Out of the sky, nothing surprises me anymore.
Well, this is the same city that has a restaurant called the Chupacabra Restaurant.
You do?
Yes.
I'll send you a picture of it.
You have a Chupacabra Restaurant?
Well, it's not on the menu, but it's the name.
They have a drawing of it on the side of the building.
You're kidding!
Chupacabra Restaurant, Steak, Fries, Pastrami.
Well, you know, it's hard to tell about the nature of pastrami.
Thank you very much, sir.
You're welcome, Larry.
Take care.
All right.
There at the center of the present controversy, Walmington.
We'll be into that next week, believe me.
A 1950s vintage car falling from the sky.
Anybody have any thoughts on that one?
So there apparently is something to it.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello Art Bell.
Hi.
Okay, let me grab my notes here.
Alright.
First of all, I would like to say tonight, with Ron Goldman's dad, I would like to say to him, congratulations.
I enjoyed his views of the whole trial throughout, ever since this started.
And to wish him luck for the future and definitely hope everything goes good with that.
And second, on January 23rd, there was supposed to be a special event happen.
I think you had a couple of sidekicks on, like six months ago, that predicted a major event to happen.
And I know that there was an earthquake on Argentina, like a 6.4.
That's true.
And was wondering if that's part of the chain of fire that's supposed to start.
Well, yeah, there's a circle of fire.
Okay, there you go.
And, um, two more things.
The MCI girl, which you love.
I think she is the star in the movie Uncle Buck.
down near the Philippine Islands and then back around to South America and on up again.
And this is where earthquakes occur.
Okay, there you go.
And two more things, the MCI girl, which you love, I think she is the star in the movie
Uncle Buck.
And second, and finally, LeAnn Rimes is just one of the greatest country stars ever.
If you get a chance, go see her and possibly meet her because she is a very personal girl.
All right, thank you.
Yep.
See you later.
Uh, I met my country star.
That was Crystal Gale.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
This is Dan in Denver.
This is Art in Pahrump.
How are you?
I'm okay.
I have a question.
All right, I might have an answer.
Maybe not.
Yeah, you may not.
I'm confused about this O.J.
Simpson thing.
What confuses you?
I don't understand the difference between the criminal trial and the civil trial.
Well, if you lose the criminal trial, you go to jail, or the electric chair, or you get a little shot that sends you away.
The defense for the civil trial should have been not guilty.
Period.
Thank you.
That what, sir?
Then not guilty.
Because he was found not guilty.
So how can they find him liable for this one?
I don't understand that.
You don't?
Well, that's the nature of civil litigation.
In other words, you can sue anybody for anything.
I could sue you because I don't like the sound of your voice.
Well, that makes sense.
See?
Well, it may not make sense.
It may not make sense, but it is the way things are.
Well, that makes sense, because that's the way they are.
And I don't much like your voice, and I may sue you.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
See you later.
Yes, anybody can sue anybody for anything, and you can then cause the other person to have to defend themselves.
I happen to agree with a guest I had on the other day who thinks that losers should pay, and I think that would prevent a lot of A frivolous suit of that sort.
If the loser had to pay court costs, the other guy's cost to defend himself, the whole thing.
I've always thought that.
Loser ought to pay.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Good evening, good morning.
How are you?
Both of those, I'm fine.
I am calling from Seattle.
My name is Ed.
Yes, Ed.
I have a question for you.
You'll know why now that you've heard where I'm from.
You said recently, I happen to have missed the show, until it looks like you had a guest on, I think a few days ago, who's predicting something happening on the West Coast soon.
Can you give me a little more detail about that?
Dale, a fellow named Dale, or Davis, or?
Major Ed Dames?
Dames, indeed.
I'm sorry.
No, he wasn't predicting anything for the West Coast.
He was predicting for the whole world.
Oh.
And what was he predicting, or was he not?
If you will listen later this week, you will hear a repeat of that program.
Okay, but are you... He was predicting a plant pathogen which will destroy all green things on Earth.
Including whatever green is in Seattle.
Well, you know how green this city is.
I do.
What was the thing you were referring to that you thought might possibly happen while you're away because things always happen?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I'm not referring to anything specific.
It's just that every time I go away, something always happens.
What kind of things have happened in the past?
Well, the raid on Waco.
For example, I went on vacation in the raid on Waco.
Remember that?
Yeah, sure.
That occurred while I was away.
This last time I went on vacation, you know how I talk about Odd and weird things, right?
Indeed.
They announced they found life on Mars from a Mars rock.
They announced that while I was on vacation.
That was a big deal.
Whatever it is, then there were several other instances.
I mean, every single, over the years, whenever I've gone on vacation, something major occurs.
Well, good luck to us all, then.
Have a wonderful trip, and we're going to have a wonderful week.
Thank you.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Will WLS, Madison, Wisconsin.
Hello, Will.
How are you, sir?
I do hope you have a very enjoyable vacation.
Thank you.
It is kind of a little bit interesting that that nice man has predicted earthquakes, hopefully they're not near the coast there in Mexico.
Well, that's exactly where they're predicted for, actually.
Say, by the way, that fella, somebody called me from California.
I used to ship, I used to rebuild 59 Cadillacs, Well, that might be more believable if it had been a vehicle from the 60s rather than the 50s.
They claim that it's a 57 Cadillac Eldorado that has an E.T.
in the front seat and it's loaded with hemp, marijuana and bamboo.
I don't know if that's true or not, but it's rather interesting.
Well, that might be more believable if it had been a vehicle from the 60s rather than
the 50s.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Bus driver Dave.
Retired bus driver Dave up here in Seattle.
What's up?
Oh, I've got a couple of questions for you.
Fire away.
One, are you going to have a rebroadcast of yesterday's show later on this week?
Mmm, don't know.
Maybe.
The other question, remember that Marine Corps joke I told you, oh, about a year, year and a half ago to tell your mom and your dad?
Did you ever get a chance to tell them?
I don't remember.
Uh, can I tell it to you real quick?
It's a real clean hood to get a good housekeeping feel.
Uh, alright.
Uh, young, uh, Marine Boot was walking down the hallway in, uh, Marines, and it was dimly lit, and he passed this lieutenant, and the lieutenant said, Hey, mister, don't you believe in, uh, saluting officers?
And, uh, Boot said, Oh, sorry, sir.
I didn't see your, uh, rank.
So he gave him a snappy salute, and, uh, The officer said, by the way, mister, there's no hallways in the Marine Corps.
They're all passageways.
And the boot said, yes, sir.
And gave him a snappy salute, and started walking off singing, from the passageways of Montezuma.
Now, isn't that Marine Corps logic?
Yes, it is.
But things are as officers tell you they are, no matter what service.
You just say, yes, sir.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, good morning.
This is Pat from Hicksville, Long Island.
Hicksville, Long Island.
Yeah.
Excellent.
I know your mom's there.
I was wondering if she liked Rosie O'Donnell.
I don't know.
And also, I want to give a big hug and a warm smile to your mom.
Okay, thank you.
That's nice.
And let's see here.
On the left of me is my Levitron.
On the right is Listening to Art Bell.
Is your Levitron doing its thing?
Yes, it is.
I've been able to only get it to go for about 2 minutes 45 seconds.
I was wondering if it actually does go further than that.
Oh yes, it does.
Yes, there have been people who have achieved flights of up to five minutes in states of vacuum even longer than that because it is the air friction that slows it.
Now the perpetuator is coming.
Right, I heard it's $80.
Don't call them, because it is not yet available.
No, I know that.
I checked out the website thing you had on your website, and I checked it out, and I know that they said that you could start ordering it now, but they won't start shipping until after... No, see, they haven't even told me that.
Oh.
Maybe they're just taking names.
Yes, they are.
At this time, yes.
Um, let's see here.
I wrote down something.
Oh, I got a picture, if you want, of the stealth in Pasadena.
I can send it to AOL.com for you.
I'd love that.
Okay, I'll send you a JPG there.
Alright, that's Art Bell at AOL.com.
Oh, of course, of course.
And let's see here.
Um, I wanted to know, have you ever heard of, what was it, Alex Bennett?
He was at WPLJ-FM in New York.
That is a familiar name.
Yeah, he's the one that started me on late-night radio when I was young and impressionable.
And now that I've just turned 40, I... Well, you're still young and impressionable.
Yes, because I believe everything I hear on your show.
Well, in that case, you've got a problem.
I know, and it's causing me a lot of problems with my friends, because I'm I'm not saying the sky's falling to them, but I'm saying, hey, keep your eyes open, something may be happening.
Well, uh, you certainly want to keep your eye out for 57 Chevys.
That'd ruin your day.
All right, thank you very much for the call.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Yes, can you hear me now?
I could hear you before.
Oh, okay.
I wanted to find out about the, uh, Billy Maher, they both, uh, played in Mission and What do you want, what do you want to know?
I want to know, I'm sure you spoke of it before on your program and I've just missed it, if maybe any of your remote viewers found or believe that it's legit.
Never asked.
Never asked?
Nope.
It was a curious book and I just, I didn't know whether or not to take it seriously.
Well, I've got a really good Billy Meyer photograph, as a matter of fact, right in front of me.
Uh, from Randolph Winters.
And, uh, it's one of the best Billy Meyer photographs ever taken, and I have it right in front of me at all times.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
How you doing there, Art?
I'm doing.
Uh, this is Frank, up in North Carolina.
Yes, sir.
Uh, thinking about the, what's gonna be the next thing that's gonna be driving us crazy.
Who knows?
I think automobiles from the mid-50s dropping out of the sky.
Well, that's another thing, but all these people going around now are going to be telling us how glad they are that the OJ trial is over.
We're going to have to put up with that for a while.
Well, not too much.
I mean, I'm not hearing a lot of it tonight.
Maybe we're a sort of a refuge of, you know, an oasis, so to speak, in the desert of radio from all of that, but I imagine that's what everybody's talking about.
Well, you've got a great show, Art.
We appreciate you.
Thank you.
We have a different program.
Generally, we don't talk about what everybody else is talking about.
Frankly, I don't know what there is to say about this O.J.
thing anyway.
What the hell are you going to say?
This mitigates things a little bit, but it doesn't really, in my opinion, I don't jump up and down and say, see?
Justice.
This is not justice for the death of two people.
If that's what it is, no matter how you feel, whether you think he's guilty or innocent or whatever, if this, you know, it's being touted, By the other side is some sort of justice, and I wouldn't go that far.
It mitigates a terrible injustice just a little bit, but it doesn't suddenly supply justice.
Used to the Rockies?
You're on the air, hi.
I'm on the air, okay.
How are you doing there?
I'm doing... Oh, the best of the Bell family, the whole clan there, your mom.
I did want to ask her a question about when you were a child, what was more fascinating to you?
Um, with nature, was it the skies, the desert, the forest, the ocean seas?
Or could you remember?
At, at what age?
Well, my child was five, and, um, since he was born, he was fascinated by light, so he had a collection of flashlights.
So I, I would say three, four, and five.
Well, flashlights were cool, but tame.
I tended toward things that, um, were sort of dangerous.
Yeah.
But Earth-wise, I mean, you know, light, or the skies, or just, you know, something like... Because your wife is very nature-like, and yourself, you're out there in the desert.
True.
And you like the dark skies.
True, true.
So, I was wondering, did that start at an early age?
That's one of my questions.
I think fascination with things of this kind began at an early age, yes.
Okay.
I'll make sure I'll keep up the good work with my little boy then.
I was wondering, if at all possible, with the shuttles, the Apollos, and the marinas, everything that are in the sky, is there any way you can find out more about what each and every one represents, or what effect they can have with our weather?
Is that undergoing these major weather changes, if they have any effect?
Well, what happens is, you see, every time they launch a shuttle, Uh-huh.
It goes blasting through the atmosphere into outer space, right?
Yes.
It obviously punches a hole.
That's true.
Right?
Uh-huh.
And we're sort of like the moon.
It goes... And some of our good weather escapes into space.
And we get worse, and the weather worsens and worsens and worsens.
And you've got to admit, the weather's been getting worse, right?
Yeah.
And there have been more shuttle flights, right?
Yes.
So need I say more?
No.
All right, there you are.
Thank you very much for the call, and have a good morning.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello?
Uh, this is Jim from Lenore City, Tennessee.
This Mark Bell?
It is.
Hi, Jim.
Uh, I wanted to make a comment about the UFO thing, uh, on the Tonight Show several years back.
Yes.
Um, uh, I can't think of her name.
Well, you called me, Jim.
I know, I can't forget.
Now you're blanking out, huh?
On the Tonight Show, Jim.
Yes, it was on the Tonight Show.
Several years ago.
The actress, she got on there, she talked to Jimmy Carter and asked him point-blank about the Area 51.
Well, Jimmy Carter saw UFO, you know.
Yeah, yeah, they said that too.
And he also saw, or, Shirley MacLaine, who was on the Yeah, but you know what?
You know what I think?
I think that if there is a great secret that is held from presidents and only given to certain presidents, they would not have told Jimmy Carter.
Because when he ran for office, He promised that he would open up all the UFO finds.
Whatever it was, there was to be told.
Jimmy Carter, when he was running, said he would tell it.
But then once he got in there, he didn't tell it.
So what do we conclude?
We conclude that either A, he was silenced, or B, they never told him.
Well, supposedly when Charlie McClain, he was telling Charlie all this, If you tell anybody I told you this, I'll deny I said it.
Really?
That was the end of it, I think.
Well, I appreciate your call.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Personally, I think they would have not told Jimmy Carter a thing.
Now, would you have told Jimmy Carter anything?
You know, this is in celebration of the falling 57 Chevy or whatever it was.
Here we go.
place where there's a restaurant called the Chupacabra.
They have seen the Chupacabra, after some tequila he was dancing la lombada.
He doesn't know where he has come from, making all the Mexicanos look like a dumb-dumb.
They say that he's a monkey, I think the whole story's just a little funky.
This song is silly but you sing really good just like you're in a jungle.
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Do whatever.
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Anything that's on your mind is fair game.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Yeah, good morning, Art.
Good morning, sir.
Had a while to get in Tennessee.
All right.
Oh, enjoyed your mom this morning and everything.
But I got one else for you.
All right.
On this car that fell from the sky.
Sure.
What if it had been a 1947 model?
Well... Does that ring a bell?
Of course, yes, of course.
With Roswell?
Yes.
Okay.
Uh, what if it had been?
Well, then everybody would suggest it would have something to do with Roswell, but it wasn't.
You know, you wonder how, you know, if this really happened, you know, when I first heard it about... Yeah, probably somebody brought it back.
Well, I mean... I mean, let's face facts here.
It could be...
It could be some sort of time travel something or another.
Well, maybe so.
I don't know.
Anyway, have a good morning.
Right, thank you.
I mean, who knows what it is?
But it's the kind of thing that you know I will look into.
Could it be?
Yeah.
It could be.
I mean, I had earlier information in the evening from somebody, and then I had a follow-up call here about an hour ago.
From somebody in Wilmington.
And I guess the story is, uh, making the rounds in Wilmington.
I'll confirm.
Something's going on.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Going once.
Going twice.
Gone.
First Time Caller Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art Bell.
Yes, sir.
I love your show.
This is Bill Collins from Denver, Colorado.
Hi, Bill.
Uh, remember, uh, a few years ago, that humming noise that was in Taos, New Mexico?
Of course.
They're stopping in Denver just like that now.
The Denver Hum?
Yeah, the Denver Hum.
It's probably under the airport.
Under the airport?
Yeah, DIA.
Why do you say that, Art?
Well, I don't know, because everything else is under DIA.
A lot of stuff going on out there, huh?
Yep.
The station that you're carrying on, KHOW?
Right.
Last week, I had several callers call in and ask Tom Martino, he's a troubleshooter, and ask him to investigate that.
Well, what are you hearing?
I mean, what are people in Denver hearing?
It's like a generator constantly going.
Well, I don't know what to say about that.
That is intriguing.
I will try and follow up.
Was there anything written in the local newspaper about it?
Not in the Rocky Mountain News.
I don't read the Denver Post, but not in the news.
But I'm listening to it right now.
It's just a hum.
Just, hmm, hmm, hmm.
Can you tell the direction that it appears to be coming from?
Yes, I can.
It appears to be coming from the southeast.
I'm in northeast Denver, but it's coming from, it seems like, the southeast.
Well, well, maybe something is chewing its way to the surface.
I'm thinking there's some underground drilling or something.
But then I heard your program on the harp.
Yes.
And I was wondering if there are some kind of ways that government experiment or something is going through.
Anything is possible, I don't know.
We'll take, we'll see if we can get some more reports from Denver, alright?
Thank you very much, I like your show.
Right, thank you.
And as I said, maybe something is chewing its way to the surface in Denver.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Oh, this is Debbie Cakes-White, Sarasota.
I think someplace there's a time trapper who thinks his car's been stolen.
Don't you?
Oh, well, who knows?
It probably just fell through a street place in the time warp.
We can find out more when we know what the plates are on it.
It would be helpful, but you know they're not going to tell us.
Oh.
They cordoned off the area, the story goes.
Okay, well now the more important thing.
Do Mom and Comet have an understanding?
Um, yes.
Uh, so far, it's stay out of my way and I'll stay out of yours.
No, each other's space.
Well, yeah, Comet is, um, not yet used to other people.
I know.
I know, I know cats.
And he's afraid, and so he runs under the bed and stays there.
Well, and then she respects his face.
Oh, sure.
Good.
Okay, love you guys.
All right, thank you.
Bye-bye.
Take care, yeah.
Comet, uh, so far is, uh, kind of a one-person cat.
Comet is my wild cat.
And he's still... I wouldn't say wild, because I can hold him.
He'll let me hold him, or he'll sit on my lap.
But whenever another person of any sort is around, he looks at them like...
Oh my God, you probably eat cats, don't you?
And then he takes off.
First time caller online, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hey Art, how you doing?
Okay.
Great show.
This is Chris out in Denver.
Yes.
I don't know anything about the hum, so I'm not calling about that.
But I kind of make some of my co-workers here at work listen to the show a couple times a week, and they think you're kind of strange.
I am.
I've been standing up for you until last night.
No, they're right.
I am strange.
Yeah, I know they're right, but I was standing up for you until You mentioned that thing last hour about the UFO hangers on the moon.
You're going to have to explain that to me if you could.
Well, I just didn't disagree with the caller, that's all.
He was saying that, so I said, yeah.
You know, turn your radio off, sir.
Okay.
I'd appreciate that.
And the other thing I want to... You've got to learn... See, you've got to learn... You've still got the radio on, sir.
I don't know how you can hear that.
I guess I have good hearing.
Can you turn that off?
Can you turn it off for me?
Yeah, they're turning it off right now.
Is that better?
No, I can still hear it, so I'm going to have to leave the line, but I appreciate the call.
Now, the deal is that you've got to learn about my sense of humor.
I say things to people with a straight face, which I intend to be humor, and if you don't know me, you won't know that.
But I mean, what else am I supposed to say?
I mean, hangers on the moon.
Give me a break.
I don't think so.
I've been looking at the moon.
I haven't seen them.
I've got a nice telescope.
I can actually look down inside craters.
And I haven't seen anything.
So I just agreed with them.
That's all.
And I was doing it in dry humor, but you may not have caught that.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
How are you doing?
Okay.
Good.
I'm up here in Davidson, Saskatchewan.
Saskatchewan.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I was thinking, you had a lady on a little while back talking about a disease that the army caught while they were in Iran during this storm?
Yes.
Okay.
Have they looked into the people that came after, like the oil riggers, they cleaned all that mess up over there.
That's right.
Were they infected?
Um, that is a very, very good question, and I don't have the answer, but the next time I have Joyce Riley on, I will ask.
Yeah, I was just wondering, because, you know, if they didn't bring the equipment back, then there was a reason for that, because it was contaminated, and if it is contaminated, then these fellas would have caught food.
Well, I'll tell you what I do know, thank you.
I know that they had a lot of lung problems, which would be expected from all the smoke that was in the air.
I think there was not a bunch of chemical dispersal that I'm aware of in Kuwait, and that's where the oil fires were set, you'll recall, as Saddam withdrew his forces in haste.
So I don't know how much chemical or biological exposure there was in Kuwait in the oil fields, but there certainly was a lot of lung disease.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, this is Chuck in Kansas City.
Hello, Chuck.
I was listening to a 20-year-old pal, Mike Murphy, the other day.
Oh, yes.
And he read the new edict for the Emergency Broadcast Service.
Yes.
On the air.
Have you heard or had a chance to see that yet?
No, I haven't, because that applies to people that work at radio stations, and I don't work at one.
So, what was the substance?
Maybe one of your board ops or something will send you one, be kind enough to send you one.
The wording that he read directly from it, on the new one that took effect January the 1st, said, part of it, and I'm paraphrasing because I can't remember exactly, but it said that, situations in which the emergency broadcast system might be activated included, but were not limited to, imminent nuclear attack, asteroid strike, or widespread terrorism.
Well, all of that would make sense.
That's true, but I don't think asteroid strike was in the last one.
I always have to kind of wonder, is this more of that preparatory stuff?
I think that it is, and there's something obviously going on with asteroids.
Movies, fictional literature, real life reports of asteroids beginning to get closer and closer, more likely to strike.
They're telling us you're more likely to be killed in your lifetime by an asteroid than you are a car.
Did you know that?
I hadn't heard that.
It's true.
Ah, okay, well thank you very much.
You might get a chance to see that sometime.
Alright, thank you.
So the new EBS dictates, as of January 1, include the possibility of an asteroid headed toward Earth.
Isn't that something?
You're going to be hearing a lot about asteroids in the coming month or two.
Believe me.
And I still can't help but wonder how the people at NBC, it is NBC that's running that, feel about the headlines about the asteroid, the near-Earth asteroid that they're still not sure about.
They must just be jumping up and down in not-so-silent joy over the news.
Because imagine what it's going to do for that movie.
Or was it?
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Yeah, how you doing, Art?
I'm doing fine.
Yeah, I figured.
From the sounds of things, this is Andy in Fairview Heights, listening to you on 880 WINU.
Where is that?
That's in Highland, Illinois, which is east of St.
Louis, I don't know, by about 15 miles.
Very good.
Something like that.
I'd have to look it up.
But it gives me good signal here.
And at least they're doing the whole five hours, which is more than I can say for some stations, especially the big ones.
890, they took off here at Dreamland.
See, I have friends in Columbus, Ohio.
You know, they're dying for... No, 890 never was carrying Dreamlands.
Oh, really?
Right.
They have yet to add it.
Say, you haven't heard anything on Michael Markham, I take it?
That's Mike Markham, or Madman Markham.
Right.
No, but I'll be checking on that one, too, when I get back.
Is there a way that I could find out from you how to find him?
He's in Kansas City, right?
Outside Kansas City.
Okay, well, it's about five hours from here, I think.
Something like that.
You know, I've got a pretty good camera.
I'd really like to talk to this guy myself.
Get some schematics or something.
I'll take my machine, whatever it takes.
You mean while he's still around to give them?
Right.
You know, I would also like to see a schematic of what he has built.
That's a good question, and I'll see if I can get a hold of him.
That sounds like, uh... And if I can get a good schematic, I'll post it up on the website.
Wow, that sounds even better.
How's that?
Yeah.
Alright.
John, nice talking to you.
Good talking to you, sir.
Take care.
Yeah, Mike Markham.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, this is John in Chico, California.
Hi, John.
Hi.
I have a mundane question for you.
It's all right.
I guess it has to do with all the reminiscing that you were doing earlier in the show with your mother.
I was wondering how you came to settle in a place called Pahrump, Nevada, and what it's like to live there.
What's the topography?
It's about 23,000 population now, so it's grown tremendously.
It is very serious desert.
It's not far from Death Valley.
I came to live here because I originally lived for almost a decade in Las Vegas, which is about 65 miles from here.
And Las Vegas got to be too big for me.
It's now well over a million people.
And that's a big city.
Yeah, it is.
So, this looked like the closest, and I commuted for a long time between here and Las Vegas.
Do you have a high unemployment rate in Trump?
No.
Nevada has a very generally low unemployment rate, and I believe that Nevada, as a general rule, has the best economy in the nation.
Okay, well I just wanted to Trying to get a picture of where you were, really.
Well, if you can close your eyes and see real desert, high mountains, and lots of cactus, that's us.
Okay.
Alright.
Thanks a lot, Art.
Take care.
Oh, we're out here in the middle of the serious desert.
Or as, um... It was put on Strange Universe.
My neighbors are lizards and... I forget what else.
Coyotes.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Erda.
This is Don in Campbell, California, and I would just like to say to a lady that called about an hour ago or so about the Constitution giving us a certain right.
In her case, it was the right to keep and bear arms.
Yes.
Actually, the Constitution doesn't give you that right.
That right exists before the Constitution.
And if you read the amendments carefully in the Bill of Rights, they don't give you rights.
They recognize the rights that are pre-existent.
I was thinking that you probably went to the William Jefferson Clinton School of Constitutional Law.
That's where he got an idea like that.
But, you know, the other thing is, I wonder what you far as concealed firearms go, and you made this point last night, that, you know, in states where this has been tried, and over two dozen states now it has been tried, firearm rates have gone down, and gone down more than they have on a national basis.
That is correct, and I think my guest made the point, first of all, he said, The way to know that it is a success is that you're not hearing anything.
Because if it was a failure, and if the gun control nuts could point to failures and bodies in the streets and that sort of thing, you'd be hearing about it all over the place and you're not.
That's exactly right.
And back in Florida when they first started the whole idea, back in 1987 I think it was, about 10 years ago, there weren't a lot of predictions in the state legislature That this was going to result in massive bloodshed and everything else.
Yes.
And it was going to be like a Dodge City situation.
That's right.
I've talked to the Florida Secretary of State myself, and I can tell you that there is no big crime problem over there.
And you can read the studies, and you've made the point before.
So anyway, thanks for your help on that.
Well, thank you for your call, and you're absolutely right, and so is my guest.
Take care, sir.
That's right.
You would have heard all kinds of things about it by now, but you haven't.
And that certainly has meaning.
Lots of meaning.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello, how are you doing?
I'm doing.
I wanted to make sort of a statement and a comment about Ed's game.
Sure.
I guess, or the question, I said, a question and a comment.
The question is, if he's basically saying the world is going to end in one year, why does he need to make so much money, thousands of dollars on his classes?
Well, actually, now he's selling the videotapes, as far as I know, very reasonably.
So, his classes have been booked through 1998.
But, I mean, when you think about that, most of the people booked won't make it.
And also, I've heard you make comments about having stock and all that.
Why do you need to have stock if you think the war is going to end in a year?
Well, on the other hand, why not?
What difference does it make, right?
Well, if the world doesn't end, the market's probably going to go up and I'll make money.
That's the answer.
In other words, I'm hedging my bet.
Hold on, we'll come back to you after the break.
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Back to it we go.
Final segment, and thank you for waiting.
You're back on the air.
Hello.
Yes.
Yes.
I guess my comment is this.
I believe that Ed James is absolutely correct when he states that we have a major environmental crisis today.
So do I. My God, we have 12,000 cheetahs left in the wild.
We have the rhino on the verge of extinction.
They say that it used to be one species every 500 years going extinct.
Now it's about 500 a year, most of them in the rainforest.
My fear is that this man is profiteering off of something that, when one year comes and goes, A lot of people are going to say, oh, well, we're going to tie into the environmental movement.
It's all hoax.
I'm not going to believe any of it anymore.
Yeah, I know.
And that's my major fear.
The environmental movement has been so maligned by those who would prosecute or offer exploitation.
Well, some of it is the fault of the environmentalists themselves, because they have, many times, gone off the deep end.
I agree with you.
We have a severe Environmental problem, but some of the criticism is justified because they've gone too far and they've many times picked up causes that were frankly asinine and that does their cause harm because there is a real environmental problem.
There is a real environmental problem.
Paul Ehrlich who is a professor at Stanford University has recently written a book, I'm trying to remember what the name of it is, But anyway, it's about the rash of anti-environmental supposed science that's out there saying, well, there's really nothing going on.
There's nothing wrong.
These scientists are paid and bought for by big business to make everybody feel like there's really no crisis at all.
And just consider this.
We have almost 6 billion people on the planet.
Well, we're like the frog, thank you, in the slowly boiling pot of water.
We're cutting down forests for the six billion people.
We're extincting species.
What's it going to be like in 30 years when we double the population?
Well, we're like the frog, thank you, in the slowly boiling pot of water.
And because we have such a mortal life, it's so short, we don't think in great leaps ahead.
But this caller is absolutely right.
In another 30 years, if you could jump out suddenly, time travel, and look at 30 or 50 years from now, I think you'd be very disappointed indeed.
But a lot of people don't care.
Because they're not going to be around.
It's the nature of the human being to do that, to not care.
That's just the way it is.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Good morning, sir.
Good morning.
I enjoyed your show with your mother.
Thank you.
I usually call and joke around with you and have something off the cuff, not too serious to say, and tonight I've got something serious to ask you and your listeners.
All right.
The day after the Super Bowl, my mother went into the hospital to have a biopsy done, and today is the day that we find out the results, so I'd like everybody in the Well, I hope it works out okay, too.
Those are always terribly stressful times.
I've gone through it myself.
My mom has gone through it.
Her sister has gone through it.
And I don't know of any family that hasn't.
So I wish you luck and your mom luck.
But generally, Usually, hopefully, things will work out alright either way.
And sometimes, you know, a biopsy can come back with a negative result.
You want the B word.
And you can still live through it.
Hey, have a good time on your vacation.
I vicariously lived through your vacation because I never gave it to you.
Take care, my friend.
Bye.
Bye.
It's a fairly infrequent thing for me, too.
Although more frequent in the last year or two.
You know, I work a fairly serious work week.
Six days.
And there is a fair amount of stress involved in doing what I do.
And so occasionally, you've got to kind of let go and un-stress.
I sort of live my work in the sense that don't let anybody fool you.
While working at home is a wonderful thing to do.
There is a downside to it, and the downside is that you're never away from work.
And my telephone rings.
Well, you wouldn't want to know how frequently my phone rings.
And between doing the show, preparing for the show, talking to all the various people that I talk to because of newspaper articles and interviews and you name it, the workload is pretty much all waking hours.
And so to get away from that literally requires being out of touch.
If I'm not out of, you know, if I can get to a telephone.
Besides, I'm weak.
I always answer phones.
I always read faxes.
I always read email.
You get the picture.
That goes on all waking hours.
So occasionally you've got to break away and just plain absolutely get out of touch.
Otherwise, it is not a vacation.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Art, I'm back.
I finally got a good sell.
Yes, go ahead.
Tried to call earlier.
Semper Fi to your mom once again.
Yes.
I just wanted to call and let you know, I went through or started to go through that one ritual that these other recruits had gone through.
Yes.
Art, problem was, at that time I was a third degree black belt in karate.
My natural instinct was to fight back, and I did.
By the time I got three of them on the ground, the other four guys that were in there with me were helping me fight back.
I almost got in trouble for it until the other guys decided to speak up.
Well, I'm glad it worked out well for you.
It wasn't.
That ritual was never meant to be that way for the Marine Corps.
It was meant to be a ritual where they come in, you know, put the pin on you, touch you, salute you, congratulations, but it turned out to be A really bad situation for the Marine Corps, and I hope this Secretary of Defense gets things taken care of.
I do too, sir, and thank you very much for the call.
Glad you made it back through.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hey, howdy, how you doing?
I'm doing.
Hey, sir, pleasure to talk to you.
Thank you.
You ought to send a lollipop or something like that for anybody that reaches your line.
It's really a short message.
But, uh, I, uh, I'm in Whittier.
Yes, sir.
Uh, KABC.
Of course.
And, uh, I worked, uh, San Pedro, Wilmington area for, uh, 13 years, uh, building inspector out there in the city of Lafayette.
Yes, sir.
And, uh, we're in that, uh, more or less a flight pattern from, uh, uh, the, uh, the other planes that come in from, uh, the east.
And, uh, and I was, uh, just, uh, Yeah, but I can't imagine why a car would be a plane.
Shipping it.
Shipping it?
Yeah.
Well, they're not supposed to fall out of airplanes.
No, they're not supposed to.
Very bad for them.
Yeah, but I can't imagine why a car would be a plane.
Shipping it.
Shipping it?
Yeah.
Well, they're not supposed to fall out of airplanes.
No, they're not supposed to.
Very bad for them. Very bad.
That's a real interesting area at Wilmington, San Diego Harbor.
It's a beautiful area.
Very interesting.
Well, we're going to find out more about this.
Hey, where are you going in Mexico?
I'd rather not say.
Undisclosed locations.
Yeah, that's good.
Enjoy it.
Alright, thank you.
Que te vaya bien.
Take care.
I don't know what you said.
I don't speak Spanish, but...
I appreciate the sentiment.
I think.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I wonder if someone around the Portland area would call in with an answer for me.
I understand there, there's paying bounty for squaw fish.
And here in western Colorado, we just spent $1 million last summer to build a fish ladder for squaw fish.
I understand what you're saying.
A fish ladder to save them, and they're paying bounty for it in Portland?
Yes.
Why would they pay bounty for a fish?
That's what I'm anxious to know.
And I think, you know, we're shelling out money on both ends here.
The federal government, the environmentalists are.
So I wonder if somebody in that area has an answer to that.
Well, we'll ask.
Thank you so much.
Have a nice vacation.
Thank you.
We will ask.
I have no idea.
Think of all the money you could make, though.
Trap them at the top of the ladder, send them to Portland, and sell them.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
It's Don in Birmingham, Alabama.
I want to wish you a good vacation.
Thank you.
Hello to your mother.
And did you ever find out the name of that song that you closed out with?
No.
Isn't that horrible?
Uh, I did not.
I'm sorry, uh, I think it's from Aperamac One.
Who?
Aperamac One is the name of the album by Kuzco.
Aperamac One?
Aperamac.
Yes, mm-hmm.
Oh.
By Kuzco.
Well, uh, I'm a former Marine and, uh, I know the bloodline you come from and, uh, I think it's expressing itself quite well in your radio career.
Well, thank you.
With a psych background, I'm sure you're going to stay on top of it.
Well, I'll certainly see what I can do.
I've been through Pahrump on my way to Death Valley to run a 100 mile marathon back in 88.
Back then it was like less than 5,000 people.
I know it's up to around 28,000 now.
23,000 according to the newspaper last week.
Quite a bit of growth.
Yeah.
It's still pretty rural, though, huh?
Yes, and it will be for some time.
I mean, this valley is about twice the size of the Las Vegas Valley, where there are a million people.
Yeah, you said well water, though, huh?
Yes.
Don't they have a water supply in that town?
Yes, under the ground, sir.
We have one of the largest underground aquifers in the whole U.S.
You dig down about 30 feet and you get water.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
It is good.
It's delicious.
You could bottle it and sell it.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air, huh?
Art Bell, the Italian stallion, with the answer that woman for the squaw fish.
Oh yeah, what's going on?
A few years ago, what was going on was the squaw fish was eating all the salmon and steelhead eggs.
Oh.
And we have plenty of salmon up here and steelhead, which is Plentiful, and they're eating and destroying all the habitats.
So they're actually a predator fish, and that's why they were given at least, I think a couple of summer ago, they were given about five bucks for a fish, for a squaw fish.
Boy, what a rocket.
You can go out there where they've got the fish ladder to save the squaw fish.
Yeah, a lot of fishermen were making three or four thousand dollars in two or three months.
No kidding.
Yeah, so those were really good fishermen.
But that's all I wanted to say, and have a good vacation.
Thank you.
Short though it's going to be, I'm hoping it will be a good one indeed.
You know, it seems like instead of killing them, since they're rare and apparently wanted in Colorado, why not catch them in Portland and send them to Colorado?
No, that wouldn't work, because people catch them and turn them in for money, I guess.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning.
I wanted to ask a question.
In 1959 and 60, I was restricted to the island of Guam by the Navy.
I drove a crash truck there.
In mid-afternoon one day, I was sitting on the flight line, and I had a CB in the truck.
And I caught a radio station, probably the strongest at that time, from Del Rio, Texas.
I don't recall the call letters.
They always come on at night time when I was in the States.
And it came over just as clear as an art bell, you know, at two o'clock in the afternoon.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, in Guam, that's a long way.
My question was, What direction do radio signals travel?
With the air or from east to west?
Well, that's a very difficult question to answer, but listen on the air.
Radio signals propagate at night by the ionosphere.
In other words, they bounce off the ionosphere.
But how you would possibly receive something at 2 o'clock in the afternoon Uh, down on the standard broadcast band is totally beyond me.
Uh, particularly out to Guam.
Uh, that doesn't make sense.
Now, there are strange conditions, but that one, it really is strange.
So I, I can't tell you how that propagation could have occurred.
I have no idea.
With regard to directionality, that varies.
Some stations are directional, uh, with varying schemes.
Other stations are non-directional and broadcast equally In all directions.
It just depends.
But two o'clock in the afternoon, from Del Rio to Guam, even with all that salt water for the assistance of propagation, I don't think so.
But anything could be.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
Hi.
This is Robert from the San Joaquin Valley, California.
Yes, sir.
I have a few quick things to mention to you.
But first, I want to tell you, I'm sending you a letter.
Notice the stamp on it.
On the reverse side, there's a sparkly kitten.
But inside it was an article about the space cap with a picture of it.
Oh, really?
Yes, sir.
I will definitely look for that.
I'll have that in the mail tomorrow.
Okay.
And I wanted to suggest that when you go to Mexico, if you take a pair of binoculars with all of the sightings down there, you may find something interesting to look at.
Oh, I'm way ahead of you.
Oh, okay.
You're not taking your telescope, are you?
No.
Oh, okay.
That would be a bit of a burden, but binoculars, yes.
Well, one of the things I wanted to mention quickly is that when you say goodnight, you have a lot of interesting listeners, and I've been told from good authority that you have many listeners from the Federation, the Galactic Federation, and if you were to say something in recognition of them... Well, I do.
I mean, I say goodnight, Cosmos.
I've got to cover the Galactic Federation.
Well, you may have many interesting listeners and someday they may give you a gesture of appreciation of your show.
And the last thing I want to touch on, truth or trash, you may find my story someday interesting if I get on the program to tell it because I'm the gold miner from Area 51.
Oh, that's intriguing.
Alright, well I'll look forward to that.
I hope someday I can get through and I wish You have a very pleasant trip, sir.
I look forward to your return and hearing about it.
Thank you, and take care.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hey, Art, Kevin from Acula.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Hey, with the Major, now, is he going to let us know if he finds Taylor?
Obviously.
Well, he said ten days.
When was that program?
About three or four days ago.
Okay, so you'll be back in time to let us know.
Well, of course.
Okay, all right.
I'm just checking.
Don't get upset.
I'm not upset.
I'm in the best mood I could possibly be.
I bet you are.
Hey, has he ever, uh, remote viewed Bigfoot?
Um... I've never asked.
Okay, you gotta ask him that.
I do?
Yeah.
Okay.
Please.
All right.
Okay, Art.
Thanks.
Have a good time.
Thank you.
See you later.
First time caller of the line.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Hello?
Hello.
Oh, is this Art Bell?
Uh, I'm the only one here.
Hi, how's it going?
It's going.
This is JT from KABC.
Yes, sir.
JTKABC.
Yeah, I was appreciating your interview with Major Danes on Thursday.
Ah, yes.
Yeah, I had to... only got a couple hours sleep.
I had to stand in line for Star Wars the next day.
By the way, did you get a chance to see that?
Well, of course I've seen Star Wars many times.
If you're talking about the new improved version... Yeah.
No, not yet.
Oh, not yet, huh?
It's pretty good.
Is it?
Yeah.
Is there a lot of change?
Yeah, there is some changes.
They changed some scenes in the beginning and they entered a few scenes as far as Jabba the Hutt's concerned.
But anyway, I don't want to ruin it for you.
All right.
Anyway, I just want to appreciate that.
I was wondering, I have an idea if Richard Hoagland would possibly incorporate some of Dane's stuff when he goes to Check out the pyramids.
Hmmm.
Maybe?
Yeah.
Who knows?
I mean, it's a thought.
Right.
Maybe I will when I go to check out the pyramids.
October 1.
I can't wait.
West of the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Yes.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning.
Yes.
Rick from Glendale, California.
Glendale.
And again, KABC country.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
I just wanted to wish you a wonderful trip there.
I realize we're just about to end the program.
Yes, as a matter of fact, you're going to end it.
Yes, right now.
So, from the Southland... And from Glendale, California to Canada and to the cosmos and all around the world, goodnight.
Well, goodnight, and to the Galactic Federation specifically, all of you guys and gals, Not sure if that's proper.
Good night.
Anyway, to all of you everywhere, good night.
See you in a few days.
Off to Mexico.
Back shortly.
Won't be a long one.
Take care.
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