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Jan. 30, 1997 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Remote Viewing - Major Ed Dames

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	From the high desert in the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening, or
	Good morning, as the case may be across all these many, many time zones.
	From the Hawaiian and Tahitian island shades, all the way eastward to the Caribbean, the U.S.
	Virgin Islands, south into South America, north to the Poland, worldwide on the Internet.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Good morning, Ed Dames.
	Tonight, Major Ed Dames.
	Scitex, Ed Dames.
	Coming up, a lot to talk about, and I'm going to issue my standard warning.
	There will be some disturbing material that you will hear tonight.
	I have only hints of it, not the whole story, but some very disturbing material.
	Therefore, please, if you are disturbed by this sort of material, and I won't call it, in this case, prophecy, prediction, Views of the future, or whatever you want to call it.
	If you are disturbed by knowing the future, turn your radio off.
	If you have children in the room, please consider your parental duty and have them go do something else.
	Without warning and a few more words we'll get to Ed Dames in a few moments.
	All right, on to it now.
	Edward Arthur Dames joined the U.S.
	Army in 1967.
	He enlisted as a paratrooper at the age of 17.
	After serving a year as an airborne infantryman, Mr. Dames transferred to the Army Security Agency and was assigned to the Far East to support the National Security Agency missions in that part of the world.
	In 1974, he returned home to attend college, quickly earning a four-year scholarship for academic excellence.
	After three years as an undergraduate at the University of California, Berkeley, where he double majored in Bioelectronics and Chinese, Mr. Dames joined Berkeley's ROTC program, becoming a distinguished military graduate in 1978.
	Newly commissioned as a second lieutenant in military intelligence, Mr. Dames was sent to be trained as a tactical electronic warfare officer and for three years was assigned to Germany to intercept and jam Soviet and Czech communications from there he was recruited by a scientific and technical military intelligence black unit ultimately to direct clandestine operations against high-value foreign targets he remained in deep cover
	Traveling worldwide under assumed identities.
	In 1981, Mr. Dames' life changed forever.
	The Soviets had been secretly developing a sophisticated biological weapons program, and Mr. Dames and his elite military group were tasked to identify the components of these deadly, toxic weapons.
	Covert operatives that he had recruited were unable to penetrate the Soviets' wall of secrecy, And so, out of desperation, he contemplated the use of psychics to help uncover this critical information.
	In reality, the U.S.
	Army was actually already considering the possibility of employing psychics for intelligence collection, but very few high-ranking officers were willing to risk their careers over the stigma associated with such a project.
	Nonetheless, the U.S.
	Army began a funded study At the Stanford Research Institute to systemize psychic phenomena and develop a working tool by which non-psychics would also be able to be utilized, functioning for the purpose of acquiring reliable and consistent information.
	Mr. Dames became the operations and training officer of this team, which ultimately achieved its goal by developing the technique now known as remote viewing.
	Back in Washington, D.C., in 1984, Mr. Dames and his team applied their remote-viewing abilities to the toughest national intelligence problems, such as locating and tracking international terrorists and their hostages, finally uncovering key data surrounding the Soviet offensive biological warfare program.
	The results of these efforts were briefed to Congress and the U.S.
	President.
	For his work, Daines was awarded two Army Meritorious Service Medals and the Legion of Merit.
	Additionally, he was personally credited by the Defense Intelligence Agency with penetrating the Soviet Defense Council.
	In that agency's words, a singularly profound act.
	Over the years, the remote viewing information collected continued to be Secretly used by numerous government agencies and all branches of the military.
	As a result of increasing turmoil and turnover in the ranks of top army intelligence leadership during the late 1980s, channelers and psychic charlatans were recruited to co-mingle with trained professionals in the unit.
	Worse yet, Various politicians, desiring information about their political and personal futures, began to approach the project, turning it into a three-ring circus.
	Now, rather than being forced to stand by and witness the disintegration of his unit's effectiveness and the loss of remote-viewing technology, the Major retired from the U.S.
	Army, taking the original team's best and brightest with him to form his California-based company, SciTech.
	In late 91 during the Gulf War, Scitech, in fact, provided intelligence on Saddam Hussein to the National Security Council, located Iraq's hidden biological warfare stockpiles for the UN.
	These endeavors earned Mr. Dames and Scitech the attention of the world press.
	Currently, Scitech's clients range from the leaders of Fortune 500 corporations To academics in science, medicine, and law, as well as select individuals from the private sector who undergo the firm's specialized training.
	Since 1982, when Mr. Dames began teaching and employing these incredible skills, he's perfected remote-viewing methods and techniques, employing his technical remote-viewing training and operations protocols, which guarantee his commercial clients an unprecedented 100% data accuracy rate.
	Ed's personal interests include human potential, natural history, martial arts, physical fitness, and he is fluent in Chinese Mandarin.
	Yikes!
	That's quite a resume.
	Here he is, Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Good evening, Art.
	Welcome back.
	The pleasure is mine, as usual.
	Well, we've got a lot of ground to cover, don't we?
	We have some important items to cover yet.
	But before we get to them, painful as it might be for those who have heard you many times and know what remote viewing is, I've been doing a number of programs recently, open line segments.
	People will call up and say, Art, please, what is remote viewing?
	So painful as it may be to hear it again for some, many new affiliates and people have no idea what remote viewing is.
	So Ed, A brief history.
	Rather than a brief history, I think I'll start out with sort of a definition.
	Alright.
	In essence, this was a technique that was used as a military intelligence tool and it was funded with your tax dollars and my tax dollars.
	A breakthrough technique that allows any individual to be trained to psychically acquire knowledge of things and events distant in time and space.
	In essence, we are trained psychics, and we're trained to the degree that someone who graduates from, say, a side-sex training program is better than the most gifted natural psychic in history, more consistent and better at what they do.
	The breakthrough technique developed in 1983 in a laboratory essentially is the syntax and the grammar, if you will, The way that the unconscious mind communicates information to conscious awareness, if you compare a language as I have so often done, we're all born with an innate ability, the faculty to speak, but unless we're taught a language
	That faculty remains just grunts and is garbled.
	So this was the breakthrough discovery, the way in which the grammar and the syntax for the communication of unconscious data to conscious awareness very accurately without imagination getting in the way.
	We're taught how to recognize our imagination from the target, a person, a place, a thing, or an event, and we learn how to suppress and manage And is it with equal difficulty that you view a target in the present or go into the future or the past?
	So what we're left with is very, very accurate data or information about a target.
	A target being, again, a person, a place, a thing, or an event anywhere in space or
	time.
	And is it with equal difficulty that you view a target in the present or go into the future
	or the past?
	Is it with equal difficulty or is one tougher than the other?
	For a trained and experienced technical remote viewer, it is not a difficult process.
	It's just pretty much cut and dried like any other vocation.
	And the application of that technology against the present and past, targets in the present and past, are of equal value.
	Sometimes we run into technical problems in analysis, in dealing with future targets, and there the problem is not Again, with the remote viewing itself, with the perceptual part of the process, it's with analysis.
	Unless you're a very experienced analyst, you are not going to be able to successfully interpret the data vis-à-vis future targets.
	Let me give you an example.
	About a week before the Super Bowl, as a training target in my class, we remote viewed the winner of the Super Bowl.
	And the psyche, the unconscious, is really in charge of the stratagem, the way in which it delivers up the information about the task to the remote viewer.
	And in this case, across the board, the remote viewers were sketching the colors on the helmets.
	Really?
	But, for some targets, if they're too far out, and the likelihood hypothetically if the likelihood of an event does not reach
	a hundred percent then we are we get
	information that's not consistent so let's say using the super bowl again as
	an example that the uh... that two weeks prior to the game it was not uh... had
	not been adjudicated at some other level the winner of the team then we would get a uh...
	uh... a mishmash of information and conflicting information in different
	colors from the opposing teams and an experienced analyst would know that it has not yet
	been worked out and another level yet has not reached one hundred percent
	likelihood uh... at the beginning of the season the nfl season i a i
	predicted green bay to go
	always how did i do that
	i think it was just uh... good guess Yeah, it was a good guess.
	I mean, a pretty good guess or intuition.
	Uh-huh.
	And that really is the same sort of thing.
	In intuition, it's simply... Remote viewing is disciplined.
	It's attention management.
	We gather information from the collective unconscious or the global mind, if you will.
	And it's very, very rigorously disciplined attention management, and it is a skill.
	It's not an experience.
	It's a rigorous skill.
	Very easy to do against easy targets and very easily teachable, but difficult against complex targets.
	For those of your listeners who have access to the Internet, if they would like more information, SciTech has a brand new website up now, and they can download some more information We've got a link up there for you tonight on my website.
	A lot of people are used to going there.
	If you go there, you'll see Major Dame's link to his.
	It's brand new, huh?
	It's brand new.
	It's www.psi-tech.com.
	And we have some chat rooms in there.
	My vice president, Joni Turf, is in there now in a chat room.
	One of our recent graduates, a neurosurgeon, is hosting another chat room.
	And we have, I think, a psychologist, a recent graduate.
	And they're there to answer questions both technical and layman type of questions for anyone who's interested.
	Alright, well here's a layman type question.
	Describe for us a typical remote viewing session at SciTech.
	Let's say you want to sit down and try and view Flight 800, and I saw the video tape of the television coverage of your company's work on 800.
	The actual workings, in other words, you've got How many remote viewers separated from each other, typically?
	We have six to eight in a team.
	We don't need more than six to eight on a team.
	In fact, the data becomes more difficult to manage after teams get too big.
	And we can satisfy a client or answer a question, technically.
	We have a lot of in-house projects, too, with six to eight viewers.
	And we run controls.
	So, for instance, Well, we'll run a problem as an advanced training target in class, in the intensive training course that we teach.
	And we'll divvy up the same target.
	We'll send a set of random coordinates.
	People who go through the course are trained only... their unconscious is trained.
	Yeah, let me stop you right there.
	Random coordinates.
	What do you mean by that?
	Let me backtrack.
	That's a target reference number, but it's simply a random number for administrative purposes only.
	A random number?
	That's correct, and it's assigned to the target, or the project, or the problem.
	Who assigns that?
	I do, or anyone else that runs it.
	If you are a trained remote viewer, you simply assign that number to it for administrative purposes only.
	So in other words, I want everybody to understand this.
	I take as the control a random number.
	That random number means Flight 800, or whatever the target is.
	That's correct, and we have to qualify, of course, what we mean by Flight 800.
	You write down the name of the target.
	You're taught to remote-view specific problems, and that's what this process is.
	It's a problem-solving tool.
	Unconscious is our best friend, and it's a master problem-solver.
	So it knows, at the collective level and at the personal, unconscious level, what the target is.
	We used to say in the intelligence business, It's not okay to fool the enemy, or it's okay to fool the enemy, but it's not okay to fool yourself.
	You're really at the unconscious level.
	It's already at the target.
	It's already in.
	Since we, our individual unconsciousness, is immersed in the collective, all you're doing is turning your unconscious attention to the target in the collective.
	But that assignment of the target, that's the one part I've never quite understood.
	In other words, Ed Dames assigns a random number, which means a certain target.
	Let me put it this way.
	Let's not talk about the target reference number.
	One could as easily say, ready, set, go.
	If in your conscious mind, if your intent was turned toward a specific target, a person, a place, a thing, or an event, or a problem set, Your unconscious is automatically grabbing that book in the Akashic Records library, or the Matrix, as we say in my business.
	In the collective unconscious, think of it as a big database.
	All right.
	Hold it right there, Ed.
	We'll be right back to you.
	Bottom of the hour already.
	Ed Dames is my guest.
	it's going to be an interesting night.
	Art Bell is taking calls on the wild card line.
	at 702-727-1295.
	That's 702-727-1295.
	First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
	702-727-1222.
	Now, here again, Art Bell.
	Once again, here I am, Sytax Ed Dames.
	Major Ed Dames is my guest.
	We've got a lot of ground to cover.
	We're doing the required basics, and we'll get down to it shortly.
	Many of you have no idea that our Senate has a bill, second time around in the Senate, that would require Treasury to issue a new money, eradicating, getting rid of our precious greenback and installing two new monies.
	One would be a multicolored, well, both multicolored really, one to use inside the U.S.
	and one out the possibility of a domestic devaluation of currency lurking in the Well, what should I say?
	I should remote view this and know.
	But I think that you don't need to be a remote viewer to see that we're headed toward an economic crisis of great magnitude, as every dollar that would go for anybody's favorite social program will in fact soon be going to service the interest on our national debt.
	That's a true statement.
	The number to call to get a copy of this Senate bill, for those who really want to know, And it's free, and there's no obligation, is 1-800-877-9799.
	That's 1-800-877-9799.
	Back now to Major Ed Dames.
	Uh, Ed?
	Hi, Art.
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	i have been informed in I know on certain terms that I read our website address
	wrong.
	Our new website address is www.trv-scitech.com.
	And for those who find that too complicated, you can go to the Art Bell website and jump right across.
	No problem.
	Let's get back to target reference numbers, formerly called coordinates, formerly about 15 years ago when we first used them.
	They're irrelevant to the task.
	They're used for administrative purposes only.
	If I wanted to turn my attention as a remote viewer to the perpetrators of the event down in San Diego, the persons or person who planted the pipe bomb, then I could simply do that and go through 45 minutes of protocols to establish basic identities of the people or persons who did that.
	I do not need a target reference number to do it, but when I task this task out to my professional viewers, or I use it for a training target in instruction, then I assign it a random number so that the student or the professional does not know what the target is consciously.
	That keeps conscious awareness out of the picture, and so I use it as a control measure.
	There are, and I know you're a stickler for controls.
	These various people are given this target reference number.
	They independently view the target, if it stopped me when I got it wrong, and the results, in order for your company to issue a known result or something you've got a hundred percent confidence in, all six or eight have to come back with the same Or nearly the same result, or how do you assess that?
	No, that is not right.
	Only two.
	We only need mutually corroborating data from two remote viewers, two trained remote viewers.
	That's it.
	Because the training is so rigorous, and we can trust the results, the controls are built into that regard.
	When two remote viewers, two graduates, produce the same results, Working independently, the mutually corroborating data is what my company guarantees, and we do not need a third check.
	Now, on very serious life or death situations where many lives are at stake, then we run triple and quadruple checks.
	We're dealing with normal targets, missing persons or an enigma or something like that.
	we still will go with a hundred percent uh... will issue a hundred percent
	money-back guarantee for commercial clients uh...
	which has to be worth corroborate mutually corroborating the data
	Still though, when you've got six, as you get three or four that agree, or five, your confidence level must obviously go up.
	It goes up, but you know what happens?
	An interesting thing happens.
	There are levels of unconscious that are interesting.
	When you employ a team, at an unconscious level, there's a division of labor, we've found.
	And you'll have we need lots of data to solve a problem.
	You can always get meaning immediately.
	For instance, one could always find where a hostage is or terrorist is immediately as a trained technical remote viewer.
	But you still have to determine the geographical location.
	And that's the context I'm talking about.
	And so we need sessions that are rich in other data.
	And it's not good enough for all six or eight viewers to describe only the room and the health state the hostage is associated with.
	You've got to know where.
	How do you do that?
	How do you find out where?
	Again, there's actually a division of labor that's agreed upon at the unconscious level.
	Two remote viewers will produce information, let's go back to the hostage example, on the outside of a building.
	Two remote viewers will describe the interior of the building.
	Two others might go, and this is done spontaneously, will describe the geographical terrain.
	Or, I can simply retask, refocus the targeting, and use wherever the viewer's original technical remote viewing probe took off from.
	I can use that as a leverage point and say what's over here, what's over here, using very specific movement exercises.
	I know this is complicated, but it's a complex tool.
	It can be very simple.
	As simple as learning how to do a multiplication problem.
	Or it can be as advanced as solving a very advanced differential equation.
	It's all mathematics, but it starts simple and it can become very complex.
	But the tools that we have at our disposal as technical remote viewers, as experienced remote viewers, Can indeed solve very complex problems.
	Some are easy.
	For instance, this metal sphere that was found in Texas the other day?
	Yes.
	It's a fuel tank on a satellite.
	It's a fuel tank on a satellite?
	On a satellite.
	Really cut and dried.
	Telstar 401, the loss of Telstar 401?
	Yes.
	Another story.
	Well, fine.
	Let's hear it.
	Everybody wants to know.
	Telstar 401, a major geosynchronous communications satellite.
	multimillion dollar multimillion dollar
	just suddenly gone
	well it didn't break and uh...
	it didn't get hit by uh... a meteoroid It was decommissioned.
	It was not decommissioned by anybody that we know.
	And so, when we find things like that, very enigmatic and extremely interesting, in this I hate to use the word, I'm loathe to use it, but it was a UFO that decommissioned Telstar 401.
	And what my company does, we're living, is to put together all of the science, engineering, and technical data that allowed that to happen.
	And so we recreate the event, and we establish How the satellite was decommissioned, exactly what happened, and what the perpetrators in this case... Were they angry at the FOX programming carried on it?
	I don't know.
	We actually did not look.
	We were so surprised that there was an ovoid vehicle or ovoid object that was associated with decommissioning.
	It was an artificial object that was actually alien.
	We were so surprised that we We just stopped and we'll pick it up another day.
	Decommissioned?
	When you say decommissioned... It was purposefully, it was intentionally decommissioned.
	Turned off?
	It was actually irradiated purposely.
	We have not established the bandwidth and the parameters of the radiation yet.
	Well, one thing that I have not understood, there is a theory that there was a solar radiation Killed it.
	That's one theory.
	This was a type of, we know it was a type of radiation, but we don't know, we have not established a frequency bandwidth.
	I understand.
	No, what I was about to say, Ed, was that if it was solar radiation, it should have affected a lot more than just one satellite.
	It wasn't solar radiation, Art.
	It was, it emanated from an artificial oval type of an object that was alien in nature.
	Yikes.
	Yikes!
	But as you know, the company and, formally, the military team has seen many, many of these types of things over the years.
	All right.
	Yesterday, I did a very serious program on the subject of Philip Taylor Cramer.
	And I talked to Philip's sister and his father.
	He goes by the name of Taylor.
	Two years ago, he disappeared from the face of the earth, seemingly.
	I had been in the group Iron Butterfly, was doing some very esoteric work on fractal technology for data compression, designed the MX Missile Guidance System, pretty heavyweight guy, just poof, gone!
	And I was asked by Kathy if you would consider remote viewing in this case.
	Ordinarily, we wouldn't.
	But in this case, I think we will.
	It's a very good... The public needs some practical examples of how technical remote viewing can be used in practical cases.
	And this is a good example.
	So, what I'll do in the next 10 days is we'll establish the present location of Philip Taylor Kramer.
	But the family has to be aware that we're responsible for the information.
	They have to be willing to accept the results.
	Of course we'll stand by the results.
	And if the person is dead, then we're going to locate the body and the conditions under which he died.
	You can locate the body?
	Yes.
	And if the person is alive, then we'll locate the present position of the person.
	Now, are we going to I don't know this man.
	Does he want to disappear?
	Are we doing something that we shouldn't be doing here?
	I don't have that answer.
	If you were he, or if you wanted to drop off the face of the earth, I'm not sure you would want former psychic spies hunting you down and locating you.
	So I'm not sure about the ethicalness of this.
	We're going to do it.
	But I'm a little bit questioning.
	How frequently are ethics an issue in remote viewing?
	In other words, what percentage of the time when people or companies, individuals, come to you and they want you to do a job, how many times does it appear to be an ethical problem to you?
	It's an increasingly greater question.
	It was a non-problem when we were a military team.
	Our operations were our operations and whether if we were remote viewing a terrorist or a foreign leader to drop a bomb on them, we would do it.
	If we were remote viewing the location of a hostage to deport them or free them, then we would do it.
	We were always politically correct.
	Now, in the commercial environment, my company was founded in 1989.
	Ethics has been an increasingly greater concern and what we've found is that we've had to establish boundaries.
	Our own ethics have come to play in this.
	For instance, we have some celebrities that we use as training targets because of the impact That the trainees receive when they see what the target is.
	You're trying to prove this to the public, and that's why you're doing these high-profile things.
	Well, in the case of training, behind-closed-doors training, we have celebrities that we use, but we never enter their mind or go into their mind state.
	We simply describe them, their physiognomies and countenances, their physical descriptions.
	If we're dealing with deceased figures, then we'll go ahead and look at intent.
	You could enter a mind?
	Quite easily.
	And we have what we term a deep mind probe.
	In a deep mind probe, we're going into a person's psyche to look for trauma.
	Because in some cases, we do a lot of medical work also, in some cases a medical problem might be psychosomatic.
	And if we look at the source of trauma, The trauma may be affecting behavior in an individual to the point where it may be detrimental to an individual's life or well-being or happiness.
	So we do a lot of work in there, too.
	We can go far deeper, far more quickly than hypnosis can go.
	All right.
	Well, something you might want to look at.
	You heard the bulletin at the bottom of the hour about the FBI office in San Diego.
	A bomb exploded also Thursday outside a courthouse near San Francisco, blew out windows, It was the third such incident in less than a week.
	There are bombs beginning to go off all over the place.
	We've had enough bombs.
	We worked the Unabomber case for the FBI, and we have two other individuals, a project we call the Other Unabomber.
	In fact, as I've mentioned before, the Bureau has mixed and matched bombers.
	In the Unabomber case, Kaczynski is one of three players.
	And it would be embarrassing for them to state that, of course.
	And they need some more evidence to... I can't talk a lot about this.
	For the first time in history, we have a hand receipt from the Deputy Director of the Bureau for our SciTech work.
	But the Bureau's loathe to talk about their association with us, and this is a similar thing that we ran into in the military.
	Along these lines.
	We're just a little bit tired of working bomb cases, Art, and we're not going to do it.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	A stolen nuclear weapon, yes.
	Bombs could go on forever, as well as missing persons.
	But it's better to train, for our company to act as a cadre, to train police forces and intelligence officials and intelligence teams to do this themselves.
	What kind of targets do you like?
	like capacity constrained as we are to attempt to solve all these problems
	and as i'll mention uh... later on in the program there is that there's something else that the public will
	will be able to develop up what kind of targets
	do you like what are your favorite
	kind of targets i had many favorite types of targets but are are attention
	has been both riveted and uh... almost entirely
	turned towards uh... environmental issues now because we are concerning the loss of many many lives
	What we want to do is to look at prevention, prophylaxis treatment, identification of disease vectors, because we're Right around the corner we're dealing with massive loss of life, and I have more to say about that.
	Yeah, I know there's some, your words, fairly grim news.
	Is that the way you... Very grim.
	Far less than sanguine, I would say.
	Alright, when you get a client, somebody who comes to you who's paying money to get a job done, can you or do you guarantee them 100% accuracy?
	Yes, we do.
	Or your money back, that kind of thing.
	That's correct.
	You were asking about the types of targets I like.
	In a training environment, we do a lot of fun projects.
	For instance, you'll see on our website in ensuing weeks, our work on the so-called alien autopsy.
	And we'll show you how that was faked, how water was pumped using aquarium pumps into a sack.
	It's a total hoax.
	It's kind of a cheesy hoax.
	It's a sack of nylon and polypropylene and some other things.
	don't you hear the pump in the background and those kinds of things
	those are really those are fun projects so fun huh well so you're saying uh...
	you've not said this before the alien autopsy is a fake it's a total hoax
	it's uh... it's kind of a cheesy uh... hoax uh... it's uh...
	it's a sack uh... uh... nylon and uh... polypropylene and some other
	things and it's
	it has in it a pump and circulating water It's kept inflated by water.
	So when you cut it, it leaks.
	And there's a hose that runs up under the table and through the back.
	When did you do this one?
	Oh, we did this back last year in October.
	We presented the result in an international UFO conference in Dusseldorf, Germany.
	Well, somehow the news didn't make it here.
	I'm sorry about that.
	I don't recall you mentioning it.
	I'll put the work up.
	I'll have Joni Durr put the work up on the website so people can see exactly how that hoax was perpetrated.
	When you announce something like this, the fact that you have identified a hoax, and we're going to get to another one here in a moment, do you identify people?
	I think so.
	Yes, we do.
	I think that people should be responsible and accountable.
	In the case of Mr. Santilli, who was associated with the hoax, more power to him.
	He's a good salesman.
	He has a nice trick.
	He pulled the wool over a lot of people's eyes and I think it teaches people to be more careful.
	So I really don't hold a grudge against Mr. Santilli.
	He was really a P.T.
	Barnum.
	He gives the people what they want.
	No, it's David Copperfield, The Great Walter, those kinds of things, how the great magicians of the world are able to do their things.
	There we're not going to really divulge, those are good training targets, but we're not going to divulge the methods by which Someone like David Copperfield pulls off some of his stunts for obvious reasons.
	That's how these people make a living.
	Can you, for example, Ed, can you, for example, with respect again to the alien autopsy, can you remote view when there will be solid evidence of this hoax to the public?
	In other words, when everybody will know through some other means than remote viewing?
	We'd have to turn it into a project to do that.
	Rather, in a case like that, if we were interested, and there are far more interesting things, what we would do is actually look for the evidence.
	That's what we do in the case of the Unabomber, for instance.
	We're looking for the evidence to walk the Bureau into that site, hoping they don't drop the ball.
	Did you do any work, before we leave bombs altogether, did you do any work on the Olympic Park bombing?
	No, we never have.
	We have not done that.
	It's something that would be worth doing, probably.
	But again, we're dealing with the Bureau.
	And the Bureau can't talk about their association with SciTech for two obvious reasons.
	One, they're loathe to do it, even though we arm-twist a hand receipt out of them.
	And two, they really can't talk about their ongoing cases.
	So a SciTech technical remote viewing doesn't get the kind of credibility and the boost that it needs In the public eye, if it's results are not devolved to the public.
	Well, that is true, isn't it?
	In other words, they're never going to admit that's how they solved the case.
	They're never going to admit that.
	So your best bet is coming on a program like this.
	Well, we can show a hand receipt and sign, you know, the fact that the produced data was received, or we can do something like the TWA 800.
	Hold tight, Ed.
	We're at the top of the hour.
	We'll be right back.
	Ed Dames, Major Ed Dames, is my guest.
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	My guest is Scitech's Major Ed Dames.
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	all right back down to side x major ed dames I understand that in the remote viewing community, everybody follows what's going on very carefully, and I'm sure that Ed has followed what is going on with Courtney Brown.
	I know that all of you have.
	Obviously, Ed, we would like to get your take on the whole Courtney Brown affair.
	I can give you my take on that.
	I'm not going to take the kid gloves off.
	I do have to let the cat out of the bag, however, on something that's important and I'll have more to say about it.
	It is a home study course that my company has put together for the public.
	It took us 13 years to come up with the breakthrough to be able to teach this using videotapes.
	And we have that available now.
	That's not the cat out of the bag, that's an explosion.
	That is something that is going to put SciTech out of business eventually, because we expect that when it gets in the hands of the public, the attention is going to be off SciTech, because the public is going to be able to do this, and we think that people like Stephen Hawkins and others will evolve this into a much more powerful tool.
	Well normally, to attend a remote viewing class is No matter whose you go to, as far as I know, several thousands of dollars.
	At least.
	Right.
	So you're telling me that you've created a videotape that will teach people how to do what you do.
	We have an introductory video that will show everyone that this is real and that they can do it themselves.
	It's quite a shocking thing when you do it for yourself in the privacy of your own home.
	After going through some very easy step-by-step instructions, your work shows you that you can do that, and you look around and you're the only one there.
	That's quite a mind-boggling thing.
	And there's a four-tape intermediate course, a module, that is the complete home study course.
	Advanced modules are in development, and those are medical, space sciences, things like that.
	Why are you doing this, sir?
	We have two reasons.
	It's just not effective to train 30 people a year in this.
	It's just, you know what, in the wind.
	That's one reason.
	Yeah, I know.
	As a matter of fact, on the last several programs, people inevitably call and say, how do I get into Ed's course?
	And your answer has always been, sorry, we're booked through 1998 or something.
	Well, what they did not know is that we were experimenting and beta testing tapes for years, more than a decade, to come up with effective means of guaranteeing that this could be taught using videotape.
	And we finally did it.
	It was a lot of work.
	And the other reason is that people are not going to believe this.
	Many people do, of course, because they sign up for courses.
	But they're just not going to really know it's true unless they do it for themselves.
	That's why we put this together.
	What about warnings?
	You hear me issue warnings.
	I better issue one right now.
	If you're disturbed by this kind of information and have children in the room, turn off the radio, folks.
	Now, what is your warning, Ed, to your audience?
	Because we've talked about this.
	Let me tell you what my warning is.
	I think Father Malachi Martin was right.
	If you are not dealing with a balanced person, and you put this technology into the hands of someone like that, it's going to take them possibly over the edge.
	But most people are balanced, and most people are going to take this and use it for discovery, self-discovery, exploration, and bettering the world.
	What about the people who might take it and use it for evil?
	Then the same thing, the same technology that they used for evil, can be turned around to find them very quickly.
	Very decisively.
	In other words... In other words, if someone uses it to commit a crime or to discern information to commit a crime, other remote viewers can very quickly turn the spotlight, so to speak, on who the perpetrator of the crime was.
	What if they want to use it for profit?
	It can be done, Art.
	It can be done.
	I am not... Look at the position I'm in.
	This was, shall I put it on the streets or shall I keep it to myself?
	What would you do?
	I don't know.
	I don't have that answer.
	I kind of think you're right.
	In a way, it's going to eventually put you out of business.
	It's a world without secrets, eventually.
	And not everyone's going to want to commit to learning.
	Some people will just want to take the introductory module and say, oh my God, it works, and leave it at that.
	I think it's a very exciting thing.
	It's a little bit scary, but it's exciting.
	tape are set and move on and others will want to turn this into a vocation as my employees
	have.
	I'm sure all the other remote viewers out there are going, oh my god, what's he doing?
	I think it's a very exciting thing.
	It's a little bit scary, but it's exciting.
	And when you see the tapes, when you're seeing neurosurgeons and young adults, teenagers
	and children doing this, it sort of puts things in perspective.
	At any rate, if people are interested in these tapes, I can give you an 800 number or the website address again, and we can talk more later in the program about these tapes.
	Alright, what is the 800 number?
	it's a one eight hundred five five six zero three nine one
	they uh... they could get it of course descriptions on that date on that and they can
	order it or they could order through the our website
	or they can write my company in beverly hills uh...
	All right, and again, Ed has a new website.
	You can get to it through mine, of course.
	There's a link up there right now.
	Or, Ed, you've got the address straightened out now, right?
	Yes.
	To the website.
	give it again uh... it's w w w dot
	t r v sidekick
	dot com and i think it's p s i t e c h
	All right.
	And Citek is P-S-I-T-E-C-H.
	All right.
	And the 800 number is 1-800-556-0391.
	By the way, are there any time things on that?
	Can they call anytime?
	They can call anytime.
	Anytime.
	All right.
	Now, the entire Courtney Brown affair, it has, in the minds of many, rightfully or wrongfully, Hurt the reputation of remote viewing, I believe.
	So, what's your take on it?
	Well, I think by default, I'm back in the position of having to defend it.
	But what I'm defending is the idea of remote viewing.
	I'm not defending technical remote viewing, which is what we developed as a military tool and what I employ in my company operations.
	Courtney Brown, as many of your listeners know, was one of my students.
	What he chose to do with his nascent skills was to put together an institute, which I thought was very odd.
	Being a new graduate, I think that would be tantamount to someone with a baccalaureate putting together a university.
	Nevertheless, he did that.
	But that's not the problem.
	The problem was that he abandoned all of the rigor, the essential rigor that we teach in our introductory training tapes.
	And he threw it out the door.
	Not only did he do that, but two of my other students.
	One, a physician, medical doctor, who was a teacher at that institute and should have known better, also threw it out the protocols.
	And, you know, there's an analogy here.
	I asked myself the other day, Why am I upset at Courtney?
	I thought about it.
	I knew I was upset, but I couldn't put my finger on exactly why until I remembered something.
	About eight years ago, I was on an airliner and I was talking to a young flight attendant, a young man in his early 20s.
	In response to his question about what I did for a living, I told him what I did.
	I enjoy, as always, talking about my work.
	It's very interesting.
	And instead of the barrage of questions that I normally get when I talk about SciTech and technical remote viewing, this young man looked at me and he said, I knew people could do this.
	And he didn't ask me any questions.
	And I watched him for the remainder of the flight walk up and down and just in another world.
	And what I realized was that what Courtney has done He's taken away people's hope.
	Because this gave people a great deal of hope, just like that young man.
	Someone told him that this could be done.
	They knew people could do it.
	And now somebody was telling him, yes, it's true.
	And what I think Courtney did was he threw away that hope in the minds of a lot of people.
	I think that these training tapes are very timely, to say the least.
	Very serendipitous.
	The Hale-Bopp fiasco made me livid.
	It was the wrong way to target something.
	A professional team of viewers would have known immediately that something was awry.
	I felt so bad for the instructors at the Farsight Institute.
	I went onto their website and instructed them how to properly target that so-called companion, to not assume, to simply take a photograph, the one that they had, to put a circle.
	the very unambiguous way that we can target something, to draw a circle around the photograph
	of the so-called companion and call that the target.
	And if it is not a real thing, and in this case it apparently wasn't, what a professional
	remote viewer will do is start to download information and write down sketches of somebody
	sitting in a room somewhere hunched over a photograph or a light table instead of being
	out in space somewhere.
	In other words, you would get the view of somebody committing a fraud.
	immediately and and and and uh... and the whole for print i mean uh... i'm not
	saying that tramex autograph was a fraud at all and uh...
	as a matter of fact is quite a bit of evidence that uh...
	it is what it was now whether it was a star which astronomers say
	or not uh... i i I don't know.
	I have no way of knowing.
	Well, it is a piece of cake for a SciTech team, and it's just a piece of cake for SciTech to, or any of the people that are trained in the Home Study course, for goodness sake, to put a circle around a target like that, and they'll be taught how to properly target and cue in the Home Study course, and to stay in technical remote tuning structure, that is, to go right by the rules, right by the book, And they'll be able to discern exactly what the nature of that target is.
	All right.
	What Courtney did was to take, it's essentially, it's dilettantism.
	It would be like discovering an airliner and using it as a snowblower or a ground taxi, never knowing what it could do or knowing how to fly it.
	So, with respect to the remote viewing part of it, Courtney made his error, in your view, because he abandoned all of the Of the protocols that you taught.
	Plain and simple.
	That's correct.
	Alright, now let's get down to the harder aspect of it.
	The one that I have addressed.
	The photograph that we were given ostensibly from a top ten university professor has to my satisfaction and almost everybody else's been shown to have been a fraud.
	A perpetrated hoax of fraud.
	Uh, taken originally from a photograph posted on, uh, the University of Hawaii's website, and it had been there since, I think, September 1 of 95.
	And, can you, uh, will you, uh, would you be willing to remote view who committed that fraud?
	Because, right now, uh, if you've read Courtney's statement, and I'm sure you have, He is unwilling to allow us to pursue any of the alleged existing physical evidence.
	We'd be perfectly willing to do that, but you have to make a decision what you would like first, Mr. Kramer or the perpetrator.
	Again, we are capacity-constrained, and we do have an in-house project in addition to training scientists and engineers, and I'll tell you about that if you're interested.
	Well, I'll let you decide on the priority.
	I think I'd like to go after Mr. Kramer, or his remains.
	Nevertheless, you would be willing, at some future date, to go and look and try and figure out who did this?
	Of course!
	It would be a lot of fun.
	For you, perhaps.
	But somewhere down the line, somebody did something awful.
	And, you know, this has... You know how the public is, Ed?
	Even though, technically, that photograph, even the hoaxing of it, had nothing to do with remote viewing, The public connects it up together in their mind.
	That's why I am put in the position to defend remote viewing by default, and I'm not happy about that.
	I've experienced a great deal of angst on the part of the so-called Farsight Institute, and this is the epitome of that.
	Yes, we can hunt down a perpetrator like we do any other source of information or any other problem source, but I would like to go after Phillip Taylor Kramer first because I think that's a lot more fun.
	Because we've got a person, a living, breathing person whose door we can knock on or whose remains we can dig up and there we have, I mean it's not as titillating as the As the hoax, but it's more practical, I think, and more demonstrative of how powerful these skills are and how rapidly they can be employed.
	Well, either one or both would be very important, certainly to the Kramers, to know what's happened to their son.
	We'll take that one first.
	And to remote viewing, and I would think you ought to have some self-interest there to reveal who did this thing.
	I want to know.
	I've been very angry about it, Ed, and I'm sure in your own way and for your own reasons, you have as well.
	Well, I think that the damage, I don't know what good it would do to expose someone who's already gotten away with what they got away with, but they certainly exposed the lack of prescience and foresight at the Farsight Institute.
	Well, nevertheless, we'll do that for you, Art.
	Well, the reason is because they hurt remote viewing.
	I mean, that's enough of a reason.
	I think, though, that it would be sort of a vindictive... I mean, I'm not a vindictive person.
	The damage has already been done.
	We'll do it for interest purposes, but I don't want it to be perceived as a vendetta or any degree of vindictiveness.
	It's just another challenge.
	I understand, but let's look at it this way.
	Whoever did it, as you pointed out, got away with it.
	And is still, to this moment, getting away with it.
	They're liable to do it again, Ed.
	Some other photograph, some other place, some other person, maybe.
	But, they'll do it again.
	Well, if they hear, if they're within earshot of our voices, they should be squirming a little bit right now.
	If they know who SciTech is.
	I would certainly think so.
	SciTech has in the past, for example, located gas canisters.
	Back during the Iraq War, didn't you?
	We are not only located at the biological warfare or chemical canisters, we entered the bunker, the command bunker of Saddam Hussein and downloaded all his battle plans.
	Then we went into his mind for the National Security Council and downloaded his intent.
	Then we went deeper and looked at his emotional state and how he got there from childhood.
	Wow!
	Would it be possible, at a distance, forget the efficacy of doing such a thing for a second, Would it be possible to kill at a distance?
	Negative.
	You cannot do that using mind alone.
	The Czechs foisted that kind of idea upon the Russians early in the Cold War, and it's a complete farce.
	It was called psychotronics.
	In those days, psychotronics has evolved into other things these days.
	But no, you can't do it.
	You must use machinery to kill at a distance.
	And there we're talking about attacking the clocking system of a human, that's our brainwaves and our neurosystems, and affecting damage.
	But you can't do it mind to mind.
	All right.
	Not all with Hale-Bopp is quite as every normal comet is, is it, Ed?
	No, not at all.
	All right, so we're going to come back and talk about Hale-Bopp in a moment.
	And we'll issue another warning, because it's going to get a little grim here.
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	Folks, we're about to get to the rather grim segment here.
	And so I really am serious.
	If this kind of material bothers you, then please turn your radio off.
	If children are present, please get them out of the room.
	We're going to talk about some future events that are going to be very disturbing.
	And, Ed, over the programs that we have done together, you have predicted that The environmental problems are going to worsen and quickly.
	At one point you said something I'll never forget.
	The jet stream is going to come down on deck.
	And I'll be damned if over the last six months I've not heard, I don't know how many weathermen say, look out for high winds 100, 130 miles an hour.
	And either prior to or after the event they've said, The jet stream literally has been coming down low almost on the ground.
	That's what they've been saying.
	In front of me, from the Orgonian, on the 29th, another story about frogs.
	Scientists still have no idea what's going on with the frogs.
	Here it says, biologists are alarmed.
	They consider frogs a kind of early warning system for planet Earth.
	And in fact, All over the place now, deformed frogs are everywhere, extra legs, eyes in the wrong places, gross deformities beginning to occur.
	This, you also called.
	So, where are we?
	Somehow, this all relates, you said, to Hale-Bopp.
	Those things don't relate to Hale-Bopp.
	Alright.
	There are, but I want to set the stage To talk about the effects of something that is associated with Hale-Powell by revisiting some of these issues.
	The frogs, for instance, we already talked about why the frogs are mutating and dying, and that's directly attributable to the ozone layer.
	Any egg, any living thing in the developmental stages That is directly exposed to increasingly high levels of shortwave ultraviolet, UVB, is going to die, mutate and die.
	And that's happening now.
	So we talked about that.
	We talked about a lot of insect pollinators, daytime pollinators, bees and other insects that pollinate our fruit trees and other crops.
	They are dying from increased UV.
	The weather changes you see.
	And that's going to get worse.
	And what that will do is preclude, as I've mentioned so many times before, growing crops, food crops, the way that we have done in the past.
	In fact, very, very rapidly this year, beginning this year, food prices are going to skyrocket because there isn't going to be a lot of food because of these vicissitudes of weather.
	So, we're going to have to start thinking about growing food in a different way, a different fashion.
	Well, we supply a lot of the food to the rest of the world.
	I'll have more to say about that in a moment.
	Now, when, obviously, if food becomes short, the supplies to the rest of the world will be the first to suffer.
	The lesser developed countries will starve first, yes, but I think this sets the stage for Hale-Bopp.
	Okay.
	So these things are happening down here now, and there's actually a coup de grace coming.
	There's a special delivery package associated with that comment.
	And to backtrack a little, when we are in training, or when I give calibration targets to my professionals, sometimes I send them just the target to work, just to make sure they're still online and their skills are up Well, when we use comets as training targets, I generally expect a sketchback of an icy, hot, rocky thing way out in space.
	A natural object?
	Sure.
	And that's what we usually get, and that's what my professionals are trained to do, and that's what my students are trained to do, too.
	That's the kind of thing that our home study course allows you to be capable of doing, gives you the skill to do that.
	In the case of a Hellbot, So it was supposed to be just another training target.
	But both the professionals and the students were describing something that was not quite natural associated with the comet.
	And when we placed that under scrutiny using our most skilled viewers, and I took the best and the brightest from the military team with me, And I train people far, far better than what the military viewers were ever capable of doing.
	So we know what we're doing in this.
	There is something awry with Hale-Bopp, and to wit, the following.
	There is not a companion to Hale-Bopp.
	But there was, and may possibly be still, something affixed to it.
	And that something is a cylindrical area of the comet A cylindrical area that is hollow, and we do not know the scale on this by the way, Art.
	We know that it's big, but we don't know how big, of this cylindrical region.
	And in that cylindrical region is a space, and in that space is our particles.
	Particles.
	Particles.
	And those particles form sort of an organic soup, a brown soup, and that's all that's there.
	Let me tell you what's going to happen vis-à-vis these particles.
	Yes.
	You're familiar with the idea that comets produce meteor showers.
	The comet goes away, and then in the ensuing months you have meteor showers.
	The meteor showers are a result of debris that breaks off from the comet as it passes through the solar system, and then Earth passes through that debris, and we have meteor showers that are associated with comets.
	Correct.
	Well, the meteor showers that will be associated with Hale-Bopp are going to be of a very interesting type because they're bringing in a plant pathogen.
	An engineered plant pathogen.
	An engineered plant pathogen.
	And that plant pathogen will strike down, will actually lay a swath across initially equatorial Africa.
	And it will quickly infect anything that's green, beginning with trees.
	And the equatorial region will act as an incubator.
	And this pathogen, and we're still looking at the biochemistry of it, will spread like wildfire, just like the science fiction book, Andromeda Strain or what have you, and will start to eliminate everything that's green.
	We think it goes after the nitrogen fixation mechanism in the plants, but we need to do
	more work on this, and we will.
	It will kill everything?
	Everything that's green, all the plants, including the fruit.
	So people will have nothing to eat.
	And these are airborne pathogens, so they'll spread to all the continents very quickly.
	And that means lots of green things will disappear.
	There will be no food for cattle.
	There will be no food for milk cows.
	You'll have massive starvation in Africa and other third world countries.
	It is very grim.
	Then the green things in the forest will begin to die, and all of the food that we eat will go away.
	We'll turn, of course, to the oceans, and we'll fish the oceans out.
	I'm going to give you some timelines on this, too.
	Timelines, yes.
	I'm going to give you some timelines, too, but I just want to let you know that in In terms of, we're very anthropocentric creatures.
	We think that we're the center of the universe.
	But, if you back up for a moment, and let's assume that the Earth were important to somebody, or something.
	Yes.
	Maybe whatever created it.
	The Earth is sick.
	It has a disease.
	It needs an antibiotic.
	And instead of a Death Star, or an Andromeda Strain per se, We're always centered on ourselves.
	We forget that we are the disease on Earth's surface.
	You know what you're describing, Ed?
	Wormwood, is what I'm describing in some terms.
	That's right.
	And that's what's coming, Art, and that's what's here.
	We have a global economic collapse right around the corner, beginning mid-98.
	When we look at the global economic collapse, it is not from war, and it's not from anything else.
	It's from a lack of food.
	And I began to wonder some time ago, this goes back to last night's show and a lot of other shows that I've done recently, I began to wonder why the Vatican had such an intense interest in astronomy, so much so that they muscled their way on to Mount Graham and they've got an observatory up there in conjunction with the University of Arizona, but they mainly run the lion's share of it, the Vatican does.
	Why would the Vatican be so doggone interested in astronomy?
	Well, I thought that the original intent, isn't it historically that they were trying to establish or disprove Copernican theory or something like that?
	That may be.
	Or is it that at Fatima, someone was told something and they're trying to, I think they're looking for a milestone.
	I think that the Catholic Church knows something.
	And they know that when a certain thing happens, that is the beginning of some grand changes on Earth.
	Well, Ed, how do you know they're not looking for wormwood?
	I think that they may be.
	If we keep this in perspective, if Earth is a garden, suppose Earth, somebody or something is harvesting something from Earth.
	Suppose it's somebody's garden.
	Whatever is coming was sent by the gardeners, so to speak.
	I'm speculating, of course.
	Uh, using technical remote viewing, we don't have to speculate, but I don't want to get too, uh, detailed, because it gets, uh, too far out, and we're far out enough.
	Yeah, do delineate, uh, when you're taking over here and sort of speculating.
	That's good.
	Okay, let me speculate now.
	Let's say the earth is a garden.
	Let's say that as far as man is concerned, the gardener harvests a soul, just like you harvest, uh, a crop.
	When you harvest a crop, All the green stuff goes back into the ground and you harvest something and you take it away, the finer part of it.
	If the garden is being destroyed or is weed choked, a point may be reached where you till the garden under or you let it go fallow for a while and then you replant it.
	Well, in this case, I think that it's not just that analogy.
	I think in this case the earth is hurting.
	There is something on the surface of the earth, again I'm still speculating, that's like a cancer.
	And it's like the cells have grown out of control.
	And the earth needs some help for a disease that it didn't have enough information immunologically to handle.
	And I think the help is on its way.
	Well, I did an interesting thing as a remote viewer.
	You know, I've mentioned before to you that I've never looked at my death.
	I really don't want to do that, actually.
	But I've walked a fine line, stood right there at the edge, dimensionally speaking, where death was right behind me.
	And I've looked back so I could assess my life from that perspective in time, from the end of my life, to see if there's anything I'd like to do differently now, so to speak.
	Sure.
	And generally speaking, there were a few things here and there that I need to work on.
	But as I leave the planet, when I die, I have one regret.
	I see something that I can't change, and that's the Earth.
	We've trashed the Earth, and I'm equally responsible for doing that, and there's nothing I can do to change it.
	And so when I leave this planet, this world, I leave that idea behind, that I trashed the Earth, and I'm partially responsible for doing that.
	Is this irreversible?
	It's out of our hands right now.
	We're starving humans.
	We're going to be beset by disease.
	Immunologically, our immune systems are suppressed.
	We're going to have lots of dying babies because there's going to be no milk.
	Africa is going to get it first.
	This will begin a little more than a year from now.
	We'll see this.
	Essentially, this is an antibiotic for the Earth.
	It's tailored to eliminate the Earth's disease, us.
	Now, luckily, it does not attack phytoplankton in the ocean.
	Otherwise, we'd be really deprived of oxygen a great deal.
	It's going after land plants.
	And it does not appear to affect the phytoplankton in the upper 200 feet of the ocean, which produces a lot of the oxygen that we breathe.
	So we're lucky there.
	Will some survive?
	Yes.
	Some people survive.
	Especially in developed countries where we have some wealth.
	But as food stocks go down, you're going to find some hard times and the streets will be increasingly unsafe.
	Much less products on the shelves.
	And we're going to need to protect food crops.
	We're going to need to look at technologies that isolate growing plants from airborne particulate matter.
	That's not a hard technology to do, thank goodness.
	It doesn't mean that it has to be a closed system.
	What are we talking about?
	Greenhouses?
	we're talking about a greenhouse that's protected using filters to filter out probably one micron
	or better particulate matter like spores or whatever the heck this is that's going to
	be in the air so that plants can grow and produce food isolated from the environment.
	That's not a difficult technology, but we're going to need to start to do that now at household
	level and at village level, so to speak.
	An engineered pathogen.
	That implies, engineered, clearly implies intelligence.
	That's correct.
	Behind it?
	That's correct.
	What do you know about this intelligence?
	They're not human.
	That's about as much as I can say right now.
	They're not human.
	I remember you predicting, Ed, a spiritual event.
	Some massive event that would affect everybody.
	I guess wormwood, if that's what it is, would qualify?
	No, that's not it.
	It's something... This pathogen appears to run its course in about three years.
	And essentially, it either becomes dormant or it's engineered to live out its lifespan the same way our lives are.
	We have a clock inside and when the time's up, it's up.
	So, humans that are alive then, Earth seems to be replanted, and I won't go into that right now, we just don't have a lot of indication of what's happening there.
	Do you know offhand how many of us get plowed under?
	Looks like around 80%, possibly 85 nominally.
	80 to 85% of the world's population?
	That's what it's looking at.
	Grim!
	This is totally bleak!
	And you're talking about a timeline of a year.
	It starts, we have an economic collapse a little over a year from now.
	And then we have, very quickly, we have deforestation and denuding of forest and land.
	We're looking at a barren earth in a number of years.
	People are going to start moving underground and into habitats or strong structures.
	But food is going to be an extreme problem.
	Water appears to be okay.
	We'll probably fish the oceans out quickly within a two or three year period.
	Food is really going to become vital.
	Art, look at what the weather is doing now to food crops.
	Yes, I know.
	Now think, if here we have a coup de gras coming in terms of a plant pathogen, plant pathologists are going to be a very important breed here very quickly.
	Now Art, I know this sounds right out of a science fiction book, but We stand by it.
	My company stands by it.
	How much confidence do you have in this?
	In the economic collapse and the pathogen 100%, or I wouldn't be talking about it on the show.
	Boy, I didn't have a hint.
	This one was coming, folks.
	We'll have more information about the pathogen itself.
	We do expect it to cut a swath across Equatorial Africa first and start there.
	But it's airborne, so it'll be everywhere.
	Yeah, that's correct.
	But it starts there.
	It seems in a way so unfair because, you know, even I know, Ed, that America, industrialized America, consuming America, has probably, in a way, done more damage to the environment by a long shot than anybody in Africa ever dreamed about.
	Ironically, the seat of our birth, homo sapiens.
	Africa.
	The religious people will definitely view this as wormwood?
	I think so.
	Particularly the Catholic Church.
	You really just are going to set a lot of people off here, Ed.
	What do you Well, I guess we ought to talk a little bit about what the individual should do to prepare.
	And I mean really at the individual level.
	Ed, a lot of us can't go out and create our own personal greenhouse.
	We can't move underground easily.
	I think my best guess at this juncture is, especially beginning about a year from now, is to start planning on how to stockpile food.
	Because I think this thing is going to run its course possibly two or three years.
	But stockpiling food is not good enough.
	We're going to have to look at technologies to isolate food crops.
	I think there are corporations that should start getting involved here, or even individuals.
	If we grow plastic aquaria type of habitats that are sealed to grow crops, that kind of thing will work.
	But you know, really, it's not going to happen, because this is just so bizarre, and it is so off the wall, that it's going to be hard to be believable until Africa gets hit and acts as a warning, and then technology will scramble to start putting things in place.
	All right, and hold it right there.
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	My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
	And I cannot stress strongly enough, if you are disturbed by visions or predictions or thoughts or remote viewing of the future, it's really grim.
	And I suggest you now turn off the radio and have sweet dreams, because otherwise you may not.
	If there are children in the room, Get them out.
	We'll get back to Ed Dames in a moment and we will review.
	Alright, we have covered much.
	Telstar 401 decommissioned, Ed says, decommissioned the word by a UFO.
	The Texas Sphere found, the one that came down the other night, a fuel cell from a satellite.
	Ed is going to be remote viewing Mr. Kramer, the subject of last night's show.
	That is going to be a soon project.
	The big news, well it's filled with big news, Ed is turning remote viewing loose on the world.
	He's actually issuing videotapes, I guess he's marketing them, that will teach you how to remote view at home.
	Something that will really put Ed Dames himself out of business eventually.
	There is an 800 number for those.
	Glad to give it out.
	It's 1-800-556-0391.
	1-800-556-0391.
	And I guess if the immediate future is as Ed says it's going to be,
	we'll get to that in a second, that he might as well let everybody know
	how to remote view themselves.
	How many people, Ed, are going to be able to handle viewing or seeing what you're saying is coming?
	I I don't have the answer to that question.
	All bets are off mid-next year.
	I mean, essentially, SciTech plans on having the technology on the streets by mid-next year, because this is just too big for us to handle, and we need to have It needs to be out there.
	We will be supporting the people who are learning this on our website.
	We'll have technical support there for people who are internet capable.
	But essentially, we're going to close down our operations in about a year and do some other special projects.
	We're mostly dealing with the medical community.
	You know, it's interesting, Ed.
	All the things that you said in past shows, babies dying, the jet stream coming to the ground, the environment worsening rapidly, all of these things fit into what you're now saying, which is, check me if I'm wrong, but Comet Hale-Bopp has in some way attached to it a hollow sphere.
	Actually, it's a cylinder filled with very solid spheres.
	These spheres appear to disintegrate.
	It looks as if it would be meteoroids or a meteor shower coming in the Earth.
	But they essentially, using the analogy of dissolving in the atmosphere, as they hit the atmosphere, there really doesn't seem to be an impact per se.
	But they come in in a swath over equatorial Africa, dissolve in the atmosphere, We actually have some pretty good sketches of these particular spore-like things.
	They look like diatoms with spikes on them, sticky spikes.
	We will perceive it as a meteor shower due to the debris from Hale-Bopp, correct?
	I don't think we'll perceive it as a meteor shower.
	There will be only a few of these things that we detect entering the atmosphere, and they do appear to come in initially over Equatorial Africa.
	And they contain an engineered pathogen That's correct.
	which will first kill everything green first in Africa and ultimately in the world.
	That's correct.
	Now, luckily, again, this pathogen does not seem to affect phytoplankton in the oceans.
	Otherwise, we'd be hard-pressed to breathe because we'd have no oxygen.
	I believe it is true that most of the oxygen that we get actually does come from the ocean, doesn't it?
	As opposed to the trees.
	I don't know what the breakdown is.
	Yeah, I think it's about 80% or something like that.
	But you better be glad that now we're affecting the oceans.
	What's killing a lot of the phytoplankton in the ocean is the ozone.
	It's increased UVB, shortwave ozone.
	So we're still going to have an aggravated problem with phytoplankton.
	But I don't think we're going to lose all of it.
	All right, Ed, can I take the gloves off with you for a second?
	I've got a fax in front of me.
	And it's going to let you come back with a hard answer, I would think.
	Art, if you want to know, who perpetrated the Hale-Bopp hoax?
	You need look no further than your guest tonight.
	Who else would have had the motive?
	Who had the most to gain from Courtney's falling on his face?
	Who was your guest's main competitor?
	Who was stealing your guest's thunder?
	Who else could hide it from Courtney and everybody else?
	They note you were in Hawaii.
	You told us that.
	I've seen this bandied about on the internet, so I thought I'd let you answer it directly.
	Well, why wouldn't I have... Why wouldn't Courtney have fingered Cytek or me as the perpetrator?
	If he felt that that was the case.
	He's a trained remote viewer.
	That's a good point.
	And I mean, even he or his whole team.
	I would not have risked my entire institute or become a martyr and martyred all the people associated with Farsight just to protect Ed Danes.
	That doesn't make any sense to me.
	Okay, no, this is nothing that Farsight or anybody in it, as far as I know, including Brown, That has said, this is something that is simply, I think by his defenders, being bandied about the internet.
	Well, I mean, if that had been the case, if SciTech had been, we don't have photographic capability yet, we were too busy on other things, but if we did do something like that, Courtney could, if their team knew about it, and they certainly could at least mount an effort to try to remove a few of the perpetrators, if they fingered His former teacher as the perpetrator, then I would not have taken down my whole institute if I were Courtney Brown and martyred everybody there to protect Ed Daines and SciTech.
	That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
	When this whole Courtney Brown thing was coming down, and you were listening to it, hearing about it, what were your reactions, Ed?
	You know, I already knew what would happen a year earlier, having remote viewed the future of the Farsight Institute.
	And so I knew essentially what would happen.
	It was just a matter of time.
	So I felt very sorry for Courtney.
	More sorry than I did angry.
	I guess it's too early, since you haven't done the work, to ask you what a number of factors are asking, and that is if Courtney was set up for That's a little bit harder work than finding Mr. Kramer's remains.
	We have to be careful there, because we're in a homogeneous environment.
	Philip Kramer is a pinpoint target, and it's an easy thing to do.
	But in this case, we have actually a problem to solve, and we have to be careful.
	It would be tantamount to finding someone who is stealing something from a corporation.
	Ed, not that I know the realm, but I think I should ask, could there be a war between remote viewers?
	In effect, a war.
	You mean in the ether, so to speak?
	You guys are spooks.
	Oh, I know.
	Here's the deal, Art.
	People can talk about the history of remote viewing, they can be part of the history of remote viewing, but in terms of teaching it effectively and actually solving the problem and guaranteeing the solution, we're the only game in town.
	SciTech does not have a monopoly on the collective unconscious information, but we do have a monopoly on precision.
	Not for long, because the public's going to have those skills.
	Using these tapes took us 13 years to develop.
	But right now, we're the only ones that can guarantee, there's no one in the world that can guarantee that psychically produced data will be 100% correct, except us.
	So, there's no one out there that can solve a problem with it.
	They can talk, and they can talk about history, but they can't solve real world problems.
	It takes rigor and experience to do that.
	All right, here's somebody who says, wouldn't SciTech have a whole lot to gain by discrediting the Farsight Institute, particularly with a brand new home study course product coming out?
	I could answer that one.
	I think that you discredit Farsight.
	Once this is out, it seems to me the remote viewing companies, institutes, people who have done it and taught people for, you know, it is thousands of dollars to go through the course, And again, you're in effect going to put yourself out of business fairly quickly.
	They are not teaching a skill.
	Well, we're in another business after that.
	I'll mention that in a moment.
	They're not teaching a skill.
	They're teaching a group experience.
	And they cannot go away armed with a skill from those other courses.
	That's different from the training that SciTech is putting on the streets.
	And it was very difficult to develop those protocols.
	But what SciTech will be doing is we All of our in-house resources will be devoted, I'd say about 90%, to working with some of the world's best physicians and doctors on medical problems.
	We want to save as many lives as possible, and we'll need to work with the experts on that.
	All right.
	Dear Art, I'm sorry, but it seems to me that everyone, including you in this case, are confusing the issue about Courtney Brown and the fake photo.
	Ed Dames implies that all of the Courtney Brown Remote viewing was false, because the photo he received from the alleged professor was not... was false, rather.
	But the Courtney people were not remote viewing that photo.
	They were viewing the Ed... actually, Chuck Schrammich photo, which has not been shown to be a fake.
	Well, there's a big argument about that, but it is true that what Courtney claimed to remote view was the Schrammich photograph, not the one that he used as backup that has now been shown to be a fraud.
	but the shramic photograph now let me ask you this in all fairness uh to courtney ed
	he did find something definitely anomalous and hollow uh he said following or near
	hell bop you are describing a sphere hollow a cylinder a cylinder i'm sorry
	Of sixth to the comet itself.
	Definitely different than what Courtney said, but not by a country mile.
	In other words, both of you remote-viewed serious anomalies with Hale-Bopp.
	Well, Courtney went on to say that the sphere was a spaceship filled with Andromedans and Pleiadians.
	Yes, he did.
	In this case, it wasn't Andromedans, it's an Andromeda strain.
	That is a country mile, Art.
	Well, it's as much a country mile as saying that a swarthy, dark, Arab-looking person fired a shoulder-fired missile at TWA Flight 800 when, in fact, the air-driven pump in System 3 broke.
	That's a country mile, Art.
	All right, a country mile.
	That's what happens when the rigor goes out of this discipline.
	All right, but still, both of you have found anomalies with Hillbob.
	Absolutely.
	Of course I'll give him credit for that.
	I trained him.
	So, do you... Do you... Will you go a little bit in saying that Courtney and his viewers did find something wrong.
	They just got it wrong.
	They better find it wrong.
	I trained them.
	I trained his professionals and I trained him.
	They better darn well find something wrong.
	Just because they abandoned the protocols doesn't mean that he abandoned everything.
	They can, in the early stages of the game, detect Imagination is just one part of it.
	It's the later stages of the protocols where they throw the book out and try to fly by
	the seat of their pants where they go wrong and they turn something like an anomaly into
	a spaceship because their preconceived notions and biases take over.
	Imagination.
	Imagination is just one part of it.
	Imagination, your preconceived notions start to come in and you'll say that if something
	is long and appears to be cylindrical and metallic, well then it must be alien.
	And if it's alien, it must be a spaceship.
	That's what I mean about analysis.
	Whereas imagination, if it comes as people who purchase Sci-Tech tapes will know, in the introductory tape, which I think is being sold for $49.95, and I think it's free if you buy the home study package.
	That tape shows you that if you have a clear picture in your mind, because not all the information is visual, a clear, static, non-moving picture in your mind that you can return to time and again, that is always imagination, every single time.
	Really?
	Whereas, if the picture is dim, the visual is dim and fleeting and blurry, that's target-related data.
	Whereas, analysis of the data is what I said, You're putting together these steps consciously.
	So remote viewing is beyond imagination.
	It's not beyond imagination.
	It's something other than imagination.
	Well, in other words, you've got to look past your imagination to see something truly remotely.
	That's correct.
	And you're taught how to do that in these tapes.
	We teach our students the correct way to do that.
	And you must abide by those rules and that rigor In order to successfully describe a target.
	And why is there such a temptation for Courtney or anybody else who might have attended your school to modify, change, and cherry-pick these protocols?
	I think the excitement, the absolute, it's such an incredible thing.
	About day three or four, of course, people are, it's, oh my God, this is real syndrome, it starts to happen.
	It's such an exciting thing.
	It's so incredible that students begin to lose their balance immediately.
	And then if they want to commercialize this, and SciTech, there's no prescriptions on what our students do with this technology.
	We have a large group that has put together an enterprise in Europe.
	But they're being careful about their protocols.
	I think they're concerned that SciTech's protocols will be That will sue them or will claim copyright infringement or something else like that.
	And in fact, that's not the case.
	So they could have maintained the rigor of technical remote viewing.
	If I would have dropped in on the Farsight Institute and seen that my erstwhile students were using the same protocols, I would have been glad to put the SciTech stamp of approval on that and say the Farsight Institute is using technical remote viewing protocols in a kosher way.
	But in fact, they threw them out, because I think that Professor Brown was concerned that... He wanted to call it his own.
	We see this time and again.
	How far out were they thrown?
	They threw out the baby with the bathwater.
	It was absolutely horrible.
	In the first five minutes of a remote viewing session, a technical remote viewing session is about 45 minutes in duration, for a full-blown problem.
	They, if they were working a 45 minute session, they lost the target within the first five minutes.
	And so that's 40 minutes of imagination.
	Don't you give really stern warnings about this, about adhering to the protocols?
	I mean, you do it on my program, so I can only imagine, in person with your students, it must be the holy grail.
	But when you run against a student, when you run up against a student, now we screen our students for balance.
	When you run up against a student who is not balanced, and who loses their perspective, there's nothing one can do.
	There's nothing a teacher can do.
	All right, Ed.
	Hold it right there.
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	Spooky, spooky, spooky.
	That's what one faxer says, and he's sure right about that.
	Anyway, we'll get back to it in just one moment.
	Alright, back now to Ed Dames and some very sobering or to use this uh... factors words spooky stuff
	uh... provided uh... you're back on the air dispatcher goes on to say
	is it possible the reason the remote viewers and time travelers hit a wall
	in the year twenty twelve and find no one after that date is that we have all gone to
	another time or dimension
	via time travel or eighties or whatever you want to have
	the i think that deals with what uh... in-house we call uh...
	the discontinuity We've used topical search terms like the rapture, the quickening, things like that.
	But I've mentioned this before, that remote viewers run up against a point where things change dramatically and globally.
	And it's all at once.
	And I can give you my best guess about what that is.
	All right.
	Because we've explored it.
	It's geophysical parameters, it's biophysical parameters, and trying to discern what the heck is happening.
	And we have a working hypothesis now.
	And the working hypothesis, and it's that only, by the way, it may be something that's truly beyond our ken, is that time changes.
	That there is an event that is global, that something happens to the world that makes all the event timelines change.
	That's the spiritual event, Ed.
	That's what it would appear to be, that something happens on Earth in the past that affects the entire Earth in the future all at once, and that when you look around, everything is different.
	You appear to be somewhere else, and in fact, you've left onto a different event trajectory, a different time, a parallel time, if you will.
	That's the best that we can do at this juncture.
	We're having a very difficult time with this.
	We'll continue to explore it, but we're being quickly overcome by other events, as I've mentioned.
	Alright, dear Art Mad, President Clinton just recently signed a bill to spend millions of dollars to clean up and thoroughly reorganize our food inspections, processing, and so forth.
	Might this have anything to do with what you're talking about tonight?
	Could the government secretly be remote-viewing and know the food problems are on the way?
	No, it's not that.
	There are some secret studies that go to the President, but that's not one.
	One of them is, for instance, the Center for Disease Control has a study that's not publicly available, and that deals with mass epidemics of influenza.
	And it only goes to the White House direct, because responsible agencies like the CDC don't want to start a mass panic or hysteria or have a get-out-of-hand-now conspiracy theory to pop up All right.
	With regard to what's going to occur first in Africa and then worldwide, what do you tell the individual?
	I mean, a lot of the people listening to me right now are in an apartment building in Chicago or L.A.
	or San Diego or wherever, you know.
	What does a person like that do?
	I live out in the country, Ed.
	I've got a well.
	I've got some self-sufficiency, fortunately.
	The proverbial bottom line, as far as we're concerned, is we must, corporately, as a nation, or if we can't do that, as a small group of people, protect our food crops from the ravages of weather and disease.
	That's what it boils down to.
	And we're going to have to start thinking about the technologies, and they're not complex, but they still have to be started now to do that.
	Aquaculture, those kinds of things.
	These are steps that are going to be taken, though, to keep 15% of the world's population alive.
	That's correct.
	OK.
	Ed, I would like to begin to take questions from the audience, because I bet they've got a million.
	Can I just, can you give me two minutes?
	Yep.
	I just want to, just in a generic sense, just go back on this Hale-Bopp thing again too.
	Alright.
	I want to, comets, they're not connected historically and in the collective human psyche with ETs or UFOs, but with the heavens, or heaven.
	Large comets have always been historically harbingers of things to come.
	That is true.
	Great change, especially in China.
	This one is coming with succor or relief for the earth.
	We're very anthropocentric.
	We're not taking care of our own mother.
	The molecules that make up our bodies are coming from the soil that we're standing on.
	So we're like cells that became cancerous.
	It's not that we're not supposed to be here.
	We're destroying our parent body.
	Essentially, we have abnormally proliferated and we've outrun Earth's innate ability to cope with this problem.
	And the doctor has to be called in for assistance.
	And help is on its way.
	As a past statement, I wanted to remind you of that.
	When did you find this?
	A year ago.
	As the event becomes very strong, it starts to infiltrate or dribble down into the collective unconscious, mostly when people sleep and in dreams.
	We just do it for a living, specifically.
	But people are going to become aware of it as we start getting closer to the event.
	In one sense, it's already there.
	It's already happening.
	But it's happening a couple of years from now.
	So you found it a year ago.
	When were you sure enough, finally, to do what you did tonight?
	About two and a half or three weeks ago.
	How much of a problem was it for your viewers to look at this?
	I mean, I just, you know, here you are offering a tape for people to be able to learn how to remote view, and that's got to be some kind of horrible thing to remote view what's going to occur.
	Even if somewhere down the line, some year it turns out to be okay for those who are left, it's got to be something horrible to see.
	It is!
	It is very horrible to see, but wouldn't it be more horrible to Deny the information to people so they would not be able to survive.
	Lacking that information.
	There are many people out there who of course consider this a crack.
	I would.
	I certainly would as a man of science had I not been ensconced in a top secret unit that did this kind of thing and perfected it into a technology.
	But there are many others who are listening and wondering.
	And when their relatives and their sons and daughters and parents start to learn remote viewing and they all come up with the same information, you've got to sit back and begin to wonder and begin to think about insurance, insurance policy in the form of food.
	Because if everybody is correct, now it's not just SciTech speaking.
	Now it's a lot of people who are saying the same thing.
	I remember you're telling me that you're going to leave.
	That's correct.
	I'm going to leave L.A.
	You're going to leave L.A.?
	Escape from L.A.
	Escape from L.A.?
	I just recently saw that.
	I didn't see it, but I know about the movie.
	You might want to see it.
	It depicts a future for L.A.
	that sounds not far from what you're talking about.
	Well, it is, really.
	But it's pretty bleak, Ed.
	So we've got all the first signs now, the deformed frogs, the horrible weather, the jet stream down, all of that already underway.
	And that's just a precursor to what's going to occur after we pass through what's left of the trail of Hale-Bopp.
	Now, Hale-Bopp itself will look very beautiful in the night sky, don't get me wrong.
	The comet itself will be extraordinarily beautiful.
	But it is a harbinger of things.
	It's leaving something behind.
	Well, I suppose an executor's blade, if viewed swinging in the sun and glinting, could be described possibly as a beautiful sight.
	But it's not going to have a beautiful result.
	All right, let's try some calls and see what people have to say.
	Open lines, so anything's possible, Ed.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi, how are you?
	I'll do it.
	A very interesting show.
	I've got several questions if I can ask about two or three.
	Alright, where are you?
	I'm from Montgomery, Alabama.
	Alright, go ahead.
	My name's John.
	Yes, John.
	Art, would you be interested in possibly taking up remote viewing yourself and using it in future shows from what you've learned?
	I have thought about it, and I can't give you a definitive answer.
	I'm sorry, I don't have it myself.
	I'm not sure.
	And going back to the question where there's going to be 15% of the world left, Major Dane, where is the majority of that 15% going to be at?
	In the temperate areas of the world centered around Europe and North America.
	So you're in the right place.
	That's good to know.
	How hard is that going to affect the people that are living in this country?
	I mean, we're talking about, you know, worldwide death and starvation, but I mean, is it going to be like people killing for food?
	Well, you're going to have, I would speculate, a certain degree of a Mad Max scenario.
	When the food stocks start to be depleted, then you have a global economic collapse.
	It's not going to be pretty on the streets.
	Of course, it's not very pretty there now.
	It's not pretty there now, but one can imagine, were it really to get out of control, Uh, Ed, you're right.
	It'd be like Mad Max.
	That's why I'm leaving town, Art.
	Um, how far out of town are you going?
	Far.
	Far out of town.
	All right.
	Uh, East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Uh, this is Lewis from Louisiana.
	Uh, Art, I was wondering, uh, if you could ask him, uh... You can ask him.
	Oh, okay.
	Uh, I was, uh, wondering, uh, what you see as far as the new Madrid Fault and, uh, recent earth changes.
	Oh, okay.
	And future earth changes.
	That's a good question.
	We haven't turned our attention to that.
	Remote viewing is a lot of work, as you might know, and projects take some time.
	For instance, just finding this Mr. Kramer will take us a week to guarantee his location.
	And we can't look at everything.
	We haven't.
	And we haven't looked at the New Madrid fault area specifically.
	So I don't have any information on that, nor do I have any information on volcanism in general.
	Predominantly other areas of geophysics.
	Weather, in particular, and the ozone layer.
	We haven't looked at volcanism.
	When people are trained, they can do that themselves.
	May I ask how you stumbled into this?
	Was it a slowly growing conviction that you were correct about this?
	Well, I'll tell you how it happened.
	A lot of times in training we look at what we do for our trainees, or what we call an optimum personal trajectory.
	We look at where they should be in life as opposed to where they're going.
	It's sort of a sidetrack that can make them happier.
	Recently, in the last year or so, many of the so-called optimum trajectories and in advanced courses we teach people how to do this in the tape modules, people were standing around in places planting plants and living in environments all that were fairly much homogenous in terms of protection.
	All the optimum trajectories were beginning to look the same.
	We were wondering what was going on and it was that the optimum trajectory is simply
	if you want to be happy you have to be alive and these were steps that people were taking
	in the future to stay alive.
	All these trajectories, these personal futures were looking the same and that's how we started
	to think, uh-oh, what's going on here in the world?
	That's how we stumbled across it.
	Well, here's a tough question for you.
	This is for the other 85%, Ed.
	What's your view of the afterlife?
	It's there.
	I think, personally, it's a better world.
	It's a different world.
	A lot of the dark matter in the universe, the matter that's not accountable for, those worlds, those spheres, are not dark when you have different eyes to live there with.
	Essentially, we're reconstructed on those worlds.
	So your personality continues and I won't get into all the spiritual dynamics in this conversation.
	All right.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi, how are you doing?
	All right, sir.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Washington.
	D.C.
	or state?
	State.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I got a problem.
	I'm 75 years old.
	And I have studied this remote viewing.
	I have thought about it.
	I read a book that was written quite a while ago.
	The name of it is Time Unrestricted World.
	Have you ever heard of that, Art?
	No, sir.
	It shows what afterlife is like.
	This doctor had his wife die.
	He was not necessarily a religious person or anything like that.
	People got him to go to this woman and what do they call them?
	The hell do they call them?
	Remote viewing?
	No, she was a media.
	A medium.
	A medium.
	Alright.
	And he said, okay, I'll go and listen.
	And he tried to trick him because he had a lot of secrets between his wife when he was
	alive.
	And this medium said that I'll talk to your wife and she can talk through me to you.
	And he went ahead and did that and he went back four times and there was no way that he didn't get the right answers.
	So he began to believe it.
	So then he started talking to his wife.
	Ask him what it was like after death.
	And she said, I live in an unrestricted, time is no problem.
	I can be in two places almost instantly.
	Her image and everything like that, she could walk through tables or walls or anything she wanted because I got to thinking about that and I figured that if you believe in mental telepathy, Between the medium and the dead, there has to be some medium there, there has to be some transmission.
	And my concept was that when we die, our soul dies because that's part of our mind, but our spirit is transmitted.
	Well, I'm not sure.
	Let me address this.
	It's a very, very complex area.
	Again, it deals with the subject.
	The discipline is called Continuity of Consciousness.
	But I'll give you a quick, down-and-dirty, vis-a-vis this topic.
	When you die, your soul goes away.
	Your soul departs.
	Your mind is like a cocoon that's shucked off by what remains behind when a butterfly leaves.
	So your mind stays behind, but your soul goes away, so it's the adverse.
	Alright.
	And then the mind dissipates like an electromagnetic cloud.
	Think of a software program in a computer.
	Maybe you have a neural network and it thinks it's alive.
	If you pull the plug on the computer, the neural network may panic.
	There's a machine allegory to panic, and that's kind of like your mind.
	But your soul goes away, because you get a new mind somewhere else.
	Well, while we're on the subject, Ed, I put something very interesting on my website.
	There was a study, a medical documented study, done in 1907, that had only been, to me and to a lot of others, myth and rumor.
	But it's on my website now.
	The physician who did it documented any number of human cases And he weighed these people as they were actually dying.
	I'm familiar with that.
	It's the doggone thing, and the fact of the matter is, up to three quarters of an ounce of weight, otherwise totally unaccountable for, would be lost at the exact instant of death.
	Furthermore, if you completely darken the room, you can, as many of your listeners know, see, or especially people whose vision extends into the long blue, they can see something flickering above the body.
	And that's not the soul.
	That's an angel.
	That's an angel?
	That's an angel.
	It's an angel that's transporting the soul away.
	Really?
	Uh-huh.
	Well, this study would seem to indicate that I mean, weight is mass.
	It has to be mass, doesn't it?
	It would appear to be.
	So, there really must be, that must be the soul, what they call in that article, the soul substance.
	I can't confirm the study.
	I can just tell you that when you die, based upon what we know, your soul is escorted away.
	And that little blue flicker that you see if you're dark in the room and somebody dies is the escort service, so to speak.
	Or it's what we see, and we're bandwidth limited in terms of our vision.
	It's the part that we see that extends into our vision band.
	An angel, that's a word we're using, an entity that is not nor has ever been human.
	Hey, if it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's an angel.
	Everything that, what that is, in terms of, for a professional remote viewer, is everything that the church fathers say it is.
	So, why, you know, why reinvent the wheel?
	Yeah, right.
	That wheel, I think it's mentioned.
	All right, Ed, hold on, we'll be back.
	We'll lay heavily into the phones next hour.
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	all right com Major Ed Dames once again, and Major, here's a tough piece of email.
	With all due respect, the future, Ed, is always in motion.
	Your guest may be correct, Art, with regard to his remote viewing of the future, but it is not a certain one.
	I'm a psychic.
	I've seen several different futures, and I don't know if anyone on this earth has the ability to claim a certain future.
	Your response?
	If we're dealing with large-scale events, especially geophysical events like earthquakes, volcanoes, and weather changes, we're going to stand by our information based upon our empirical data, based upon the last 13 years of working problems like this.
	In fact, it's one of the easiest things for a newly trained remote viewer to remote view is the next geophysical catastrophe, those types of things.
	Because they stand out.
	Because they're so big.
	It's an event that's already in progress.
	The beginning of the event is now.
	The window of that event is already here.
	But if there are a lot of personal decisions to be made, for instance, the next presidential election or something like that, then we can't even get close until just prior to the event because you have so many individual decisions at work.
	And those individual decisions, despite what people think, don't affect geophysical changes.
	I know out there in a lot of the New Age community, I don't use that term disparagingly.
	I used to.
	I am one now.
	People think that there are tulpas or thought forms that can go out and a mass thought can influence geophysical activity, but that does not appear to be the case.
	And even if it could, we're not united enough as individuals, groups, and nations to find out.
	Here's somebody with a good logical question.
	If enough people became convinced what you're suggesting about the comet and the plant pathogen are true, we do have, after all, a space program and NASA.
	Would there not be something they could do about it?
	Well my answer to that is no.
	Look at the arrogance at that level and it's not just arrogance.
	They have to be responsible and act responsibly and what we're talking about here is pretty far out.
	The artificial structures in Cydonia region of Mars, for instance.
	Many people agree that there's something there, but NASA is still in denial that that's so.
	It would be a much further stretch for them to accept this kind of information here.
	I take it your view is that was from a prior seeding phase on Mars?
	So forth?
	Well, I don't want to get into the long history there.
	Actually, I don't know what the specific answer is.
	Let me backtrack a moment.
	We get scientists and engineers from NASA through the course, and the reasons they come are interesting.
	It's not necessarily to solve a space and aerospace engineering problem.
	It's for spiritual reasons, which was a shocker to me as a technician.
	Not to me, and it's one of the reasons I've contemplated doing it.
	Interestingly for spiritual reasons all right let let Miss Bell take the course first and then let her tell you
	about it First time caller line you're on the air with ed major ed dames.
	Hi Hi sir, this is Robin from moments, Illinois. Yes, sir near
	Chicago, okay Two questions if there's time the first question being I
	thought I heard a reference to something I read in Robert Monroe's books
	What was that?
	About humanity being more or less part of a garden and our soul is kind of the fruit of that garden?
	I mentioned that it appears to me that we're being harvested.
	I knew Bob Monroe, but I don't remember him saying that.
	That was in his second book.
	I didn't read Bob's second book.
	That's what we're here for.
	Is that our souls in a sense are harvested for beings of some sort and I guess my other question would pertain to a repetitive dream that I have of a huge comet appearing in the sky and then I'm walking around on the surface of the earth and like everything is total destruction.
	Is that some kind of remote viewing?
	I think it's a precognitive remote viewing but it's more like a premonition.
	The way we do it is extremely precise but we would take something like a precognitive event like that or a dream like that and I think you'll find that as we approach large events that more and more people will have dreams just like that.
	Like I'm saying, it's the dribble down effect in the collective unconscious.
	I've had those like for 25 years and I thought when Halley's Comet was coming that maybe that was it.
	I don't know if this is going to be it or not.
	This is the one.
	But a significant event.
	Do you think that the death of human beings or whatever the eradication of the disease Is it going to be random or selective?
	Do we have a better chance of surviving if we emanate the right vibrations?
	I think that if we're connected enough, if we're connected spiritually, we'll be able to know where sanctuary is, whether it's something we have to do or someplace we have to go.
	In my case, and my family's case, and for my family, it's a place where we have to go And for other people, it's a different place.
	Is there individual predestination or predetermination, or can we individually make choices that will affect our own personal futures, irrespective of what's come in the big one here?
	At any given point, your personal decisions can affect the future.
	But remember that lots of doors close on you all the time.
	So at any given point in your life, your options dwindle.
	That's true.
	But that's just a comment.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Yeah, hi.
	This is Dave from St.
	Louis, Missouri.
	Yes, sir.
	And I was wondering, is Dr. Brown's Institute all shut down?
	No.
	As far as his website and all that?
	Not as far as I know.
	Okay.
	And my next question was, What's the chance that Dr. Brown stepped into something that was a matter of national security?
	Well, these are questions that cannot be answered at the moment by Ed Dames.
	What's your best opinion of this would be?
	Well, he's not proffering an opinion.
	He's going to remote view it and tell us.
	Oh, okay.
	Otherwise, it would be utter speculation at this point.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, thank you.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hello, this is Clyde in Tampa.
	Yes, sir.
	I wanted to ask both of you if you're aware that Mr. Ceramic happened to be on a worldwide Christian broadcast about two weeks prior to your Courtney Brown show, and that, I don't know if to call it a hoax or whatever, or his involvement with it.
	That may help you if you intend to remote view the source of the whatever you want to call it.
	Sir, when we actually target a specific event or thing, we go in with no preconceived notions to speak of.
	Now, as individuals, we may have ideas about what something is.
	For instance, I truly thought that TWA Flight 800 was blown up by a bomb until I remote viewed it and saw that a part broke.
	So we can have predispositions consciously, but in the act of remote viewing, all that goes out.
	We shunt all our predispositions away.
	So even if we felt suspicious about someone or something, we adjudicate that in the process.
	The protocols shunt all our biases away.
	So it doesn't help us to have names or photos or things like that.
	Well, since Ceramic was involved there, I thought perhaps that would help you.
	Well, Chuck Ceramic was only involved in that he took the first photograph.
	The photograph, sir, that is said to have been hoaxed, or I believe has certainly been hoaxed, had nothing to do with Chuck Ceramic.
	The Hawaiian photo?
	That's right.
	Have you ever spoken with a James Lloyd?
	He had a prayer vigil over the air about speaking with you, Art.
	I'm sorry, run that one by me again.
	He has had a prayer vigil about speaking with me.
	Yes, it's amazing as it may seem.
	Again, another shortwave broadcast, I don't know, 100,000 watts or so, around the world.
	That's a new one on me.
	He should, I guess, pray and also act on his own and pick up the phone and call me.
	That's right.
	All right, thank you very much for the call.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Deems.
	Hello.
	Hi, it's John from San Clemente.
	Hi, John.
	And, you know, I've just been reading Fred Horrell's work on diseases from space that talks about some of the technical aspects of pathogens falling from the tails of comets.
	It's pretty fascinating.
	Anyway, I've also been reading Schnabel's book, and in the epilogue he talks about Actually, that was never anything I said.
	What I said was something that would happen in August.
	It would be an event that was ET related.
	I'm wondering, whatever happened to that prediction, did it come true?
	Actually that was never anything I said.
	What I said was something would happen in August.
	It would be an event that was ET related.
	I said that when the company was headquartered in New Mexico.
	That particular event was the loss of the Mars Observer.
	It was an interesting turn of events.
	It reminds me of the little game of tell me a secret.
	Well it went around through a lot of hands and it came out pregnant Martians in the desert.
	But in fact it was the loss of the Mars Observer in August.
	What do you think of his book in general?
	I think the early days of the history of military remote viewing, I think it was excellently researched.
	I think he did a darn good job.
	He kind of rushed through the end, but as far as the history of the unit and the history of U.S.
	psychic operations in the early days, it's excellent.
	It leaves a lot to be desired in the back.
	It's the best thing out there so far, I think.
	Thanks a lot.
	All right.
	Thank you very much, sir, for your call, and good morning.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Yes, sir.
	Where are you?
	I'm in North Carolina.
	All right.
	My question is, what you've said tonight seems to throw out the window all the information on the ETs, that they're the Martians and the Greys.
	Well, I don't know about that.
	It's a good question.
	Obviously, though, what's coming, this plant pathogen, is engineered by some intelligence, so I'm not sure what goes out the window here.
	What does, Ed?
	There's a lot of folks out there.
	You'll see a lot more action in the skies and on the ground, but they'll be observing.
	My company still has an in-house project, and it's on the back burner for about a year, but would you like to know what that is?
	Yes.
	It deals with technologies that are used by extraterrestrials that are moving in and out of the atmosphere.
	We cannot, as a team, reverse engineer or describe the technology that motivates those vehicles, the ones that are manned, and I use that term loosely.
	we can't discern the technology, it's too advanced.
	But there is one thing we have been able, we think we can reconstruct,
	and the reasons why I'll get into in a moment.
	There is sort of a, if you're familiar with radar corner reflectors,
	when a radar of a specific bandwidth and frequency shines out, illuminates forward.
	That's right.
	If you cut a metal piece a certain way, it acts as a mirror for the radar screen.
	That's right.
	The scope.
	It shines very brightly.
	Well, if you're way out in space, and you're flying something, and you have, let's say, let's hypothesize a neutrino or a high-powered gamma ray emanator.
	If you had a passive device that was cut to reflect neutrinos or gamma rays back up at you, this would be a passive device that would be like a mirror for neutrinos or gamma rays.
	That would be very bright and it might even project up a glide path so it can home right in to your base.
	That might be a doable technology, and in fact, what our company is working on is replicating what appears to be something like that.
	Let's call it a corner reflector right now that's passive.
	And if we emplace it in a certain spot, and that spot is illuminated, all of a sudden there'll be a different mirror that's never been out there before.
	And that will imply to any intelligent agencies that are flying vehicles that, hey, They have been able to replicate our technology.
	They not only know we're here, but somehow, and of course this will be deduced, they're able, through consciousness, to know what our technology is.
	Because there's another beacon out there that hasn't been there before and it doesn't belong to us.
	So, in essence, that's what my company is doing and we're placing that in a very strategic location to invoke contact rather than provoke it.
	In the meantime, your viewing does not suggest of any assistance from E.T.
	in this coming disaster.
	There has been some clandestine assistance, but for the most part, they're not here until after the stuff hits the fan.
	Oh, okay.
	We're on our own.
	They're not here to... Well, essentially, yes.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Thank you, caller.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hey Art, how are you doing?
	Alright.
	Long time listener.
	Yes sir.
	Where are you?
	I'm in a town called Camarillo, California.
	Okay.
	Between L.A.
	and Santa Barbara.
	Major David, I have a question for you.
	Yes sir.
	I wanted to know, I was listening to a talk show one time, a caller called in and asked if there's any way you could dream about what you want to dream about.
	If you could kind of pre-program your dreams.
	I want to know, can you pre-program your dreams?
	Can you mentally concentrate on something and dream on it?
	For example, if you read three chapters in a James Bond book, could you pretty much dream that book?
	In other words, pre-program your dreams?
	I don't know specifically what the question is, but I think I can give you something that's interesting and that works very well.
	If you discipline your mind, just before you go to sleep, if you push all the other thoughts out of your mind and you frame a question, many of your listeners know this already, if you frame it just like you would frame a picture, the specific question, and you go to sleep, Putting a lot of energy into that question to the exclusion of all other data and noise.
	When you wake up, you've got about 30 seconds.
	Get the answer, because it's there.
	And it's very, very accurate.
	And very fleeting, I guess.
	It is.
	And about 30 seconds and you're going to lose it, because it's not going to go into long-term memory.
	So grab a tape recorder right by your bed.
	You've got to do it fast.
	All right.
	That's fascinating.
	This technique is very accurate.
	All right.
	Hold on, Ed.
	We'll be right back.
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	Once again, here I am, Ed Dames, back in a moment with all the complications here in
	life. There are many.
	I'm going to have to get back to work.
	Back now to Major Ed Dames.
	And how are you doing, Major?
	Still awake?
	I'm still awake.
	I have a couple of administrative notes.
	One with regard to the new Jim Schnabel book.
	Yes.
	What Schnabel fails to mention is his affiliation with the CIA.
	He worked in engineering at the DDO, the Deputy Director for Operations, for two years.
	And he attempted to not only debunk remote viewing, but he's part of the damage control effort that the CIA has as a result of this coming 15% accuracy rate, that kind of thing.
	So I wanted your listeners to know that, although the book is still, the history is well written, it's part of a damage control effort.
	And when Jim took the course with SciTech, he did very well as a trainee, and he was very angry that it worked, because he set out to debunk it, and it was very difficult for him to do that.
	In fact, he couldn't, and he became quite a good remote viewer, but nevertheless laughed angry.
	How many of your students Come to you as skeptics.
	Not a lot of skeptics.
	They come fairly objective.
	We get a couple of skeptics now and then, but as long as they're men and women of science, we take them anyway, because they're going to be trained.
	All right, I've got something for you, Ed.
	The amazing Randy has, as you know, offered this spectacular amount of money.
	For anybody who can prove that the kind of thing that you do is real.
	$740,000 odd dollars.
	That's a lot of money.
	Yep.
	Why not take up his challenge?
	We picked up the gauntlet and let him know and all the people in Scitech know, but all their investors seem to have pulled out when they found out Scitech said we can do it.
	And as some of your listeners know who have been on the web, Amazing Randy can't seem to respond to Scitech.
	What we think is happening is all the Psycop pledges, who pledged $10,000 to $20,000 to support that, when they found out that Psytech accepted the challenge and they pulled out.
	When did you officially accept it?
	About three months ago, and over a period of three weeks.
	But we just can't seem to get a response from Mr. Randi.
	Um, all right.
	I'd be glad to take this three-quarter of a mil.
	I'm sure you would.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Um, yes, I have two theories that, um, I'd kind of like to ask.
	All right.
	Where are you, dear?
	Um, Birmingham, Alabama.
	All right.
	Um, the first is to you, Art, about the soul-containing body weight.
	Yes.
	Um, you know, like, when you tense up, how you weigh more.
	Could it be when you die, your organs are relaxing?
	Now, wait a minute.
	When you tense up, you do not weigh more?
	You don't?
	No.
	Oh, I've experimented.
	I mean, not that I know of.
	Well, I've noticed when I tense my muscles up that I weigh more than when I relax.
	Well, I think what you're seeing is you're tensing and you're moving and the scale moves a little bit.
	I understand that.
	That's what I think.
	You're not really changing weight.
	Okay.
	Well, I just didn't know if that would be a possibility.
	And the other was this whole Armageddon idea.
	Have you ever read Daniel Quinn Ishmael?
	I know.
	Well, it talks about how there is a law to life, like there's a law to everything else, like aerodynamics, there's a law to everything.
	Yes.
	We've denied this law of life, and humans have made enemies with the earth.
	Well, I think that's about what Ed is saying, isn't it?
	Right.
	And that Christianity is, in a way, teaching destruction by saying in 1 John 2, verse 15, about the lovers of the world, deny the love of the Father.
	And that maybe this new spirituality that's coming about might be the religion of animism, that we are not better than any other creature?
	All I can hark back upon is the idea of being anthropocentric.
	We fail to realize that the earth is our mother, not to wax into Native American eschatology or cosmology too much.
	We're trampling our mother.
	The mother spirit, if you will.
	Well, that sure does sound Native American.
	But I've always rather embraced it myself.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Good evening.
	This is Dale from Billings.
	I have a couple questions.
	Sure.
	Unrelated.
	The first is, Mr. Dames talked about remote viewing for Mr. Kramer.
	I was wondering if he locates his body.
	Is there any way he can locate his soul?
	And on the other hand, I'm a farmer, too.
	And I'm curious as to, after this virus, or whatever it is, plays itself out, will seeds I still have in storage, will they still be viable?
	Oh, that's a good question.
	Seeds in storage.
	Ed, we'd better roll over it one more time.
	There is an object attached, you say, to Halebox.
	Attached or fixed.
	It may not be there any longer.
	It may have already separated.
	But it appears to be, at a point, it will either degrade and split off, or it will separate in its entirety and enter the Earth's atmosphere as microparticulate matter.
	Well, essentially a meteor shower associated with the comet.
	All right, here's... And that has plant pathogens on it.
	Plant pathogens, which will kill the greenery on Earth, beginning in Africa and then... Beginning in Equatorial Africa.
	All right.
	What about the mechanics of how these objects are going to get to Earth?
	Orbital mechanics dictate the period of the comet is many, many years long.
	The debris accompanying it will not be back in the area of the orbit of the Earth any time soon, and I don't think we directly cross it.
	So how does it get here?
	It looks like this cylinder, this large cylinder, does actually separate from the comet.
	And in fact, our team shows that it has already done so, Art.
	So how is it, what its motive force is and those kinds of things, actually we don't know.
	But we do know it's inbound now.
	And it appears to have already separated.
	So I'm speculating about the meteor shower, but in fact this cylinder remains intact and it's on its way.
	Art, please ask Ed who is sending the cylinder of antibiotics to take us out.
	Good question.
	I think the one to put it here.
	The Gardner.
	The Gardner.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	I'm on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Eureka, California.
	All right.
	Fire away.
	Okay.
	My question is about the timeline.
	Not a long one, Ed.
	No, a short one.
	My understanding was that the timeline would be given by Major Dames sometime in the near future.
	He's already given it, Ed.
	We've got the beginning of economic collapse, mid-98, beginning of famine in Africa, mid-98, and things degrade from there.
	I think it will be over before ten years.
	Over by what?
	It'll be over by ten years, he said.
	Oh, oh, okay.
	So, in terms of the quickening, three and a half years, the original prediction... That's saying mid-98.
	I'm saying that there is... I think he's referring to this discontinuity, what my company calls a discontinuity that we have not discerned.
	Yeah, I was talking in terms of Teilhard de Chardin and the Omega Point.
	I don't know what those are.
	We'd have to explore those topics.
	All we know is we have this event that's out there where, as remote viewers, if we look at ourselves, we can't see ourselves anymore.
	It's very nonplussing to us, to say the least.
	We thought it was death, but it's not.
	And it's out about three and a half or four years, and we still don't know what it is.
	And with these videotapes, and you're just going to give it all away.
	Well, I guess you're not giving it away, you're selling it, but I mean at a ridiculously low price compared to what the courses cost.
	To do it at home, become your own remote viewer.
	People will look out at this disaster.
	What percentage of them simply will not be able to handle it and will go over the edge?
	I don't know, Art.
	Based upon my experience, possibly a ballpark 5%.
	That could be a lot of people.
	Might be.
	The efficacy of that, then?
	I mean, you must have considered it.
	Yes, I have.
	But why should that 5% stop the 95% from having survival information for themselves and their family?
	That's a good answer.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Good evening.
	Morning, actually.
	Hello?
	Good morning, Mr. Art Bell.
	Yes.
	Where are you, sir?
	Bakersfield.
	All right.
	You're going to have to speak up good and loud.
	You're not too loud for somebody.
	I'd like to ask Mr. Sergeant Ed... No, not sergeant.
	That's a big demotion.
	He's Major Ed Dames.
	Major Ed Dames.
	When 80% of the population dies, now, you guys were talking about these nuclear plants and stuff.
	Who would keep those up in order for the population
	nobody and back in bulgaria right now they're breaking cooling roger breaking
	so if you can expect a miniature noble any day the uh... the old reactors and uh... bulgaria and people
	and places around uh... cooling where it was slow up cooling rods are
	brilliant The cooling systems are degrading.
	You know how cooling pipes corrode?
	Of course.
	Like your arteries corrode if you don't take care of your body.
	Yes.
	The workers that go to work in those plants there are very low salary and sometimes they don't get paid at all.
	So you can imagine what maintenance is like.
	Preventative maintenance on reactors in Bulgaria.
	When people don't show up for work, there is no maintenance, much less operation.
	They're going to go, and you're going to have a number of miniature Nobles, so lots of uninhabitable regions.
	We have problems here, too, that aren't talked about in America.
	Yes, I know.
	The Navy dumps old reactor cores in the Salmon River.
	The Lost River sinks, and the Lost River sinks, the plumes of radioactivity seep down into the Salmon River.
	So the Salmon River has become hot since 1950.
	The Salmon River flows into the Columbia.
	The Columbia flows past Hanford.
	So if you're a child growing up along the Columbia River, you might expect some thyroid problems.
	Let me tell you Ed, anybody who really does study what's going on with the environment right now, really, even a shallow look, and doesn't end up angry, red-faced angry, I've got a question.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi, I'm Bill from Washington State, and I live on the Columbia River, so great.
	I've got a question.
	What's the difference between remote viewing and OBE or astral projection?
	All right.
	Good.
	I'm glad you asked, Ed.
	Well, we used in the early days of the military team, we attempted to use astral projection or out-of-body
	acquisition of information.
	Remote viewing, technical remote viewing specifically, we use our minds.
	We use our unconscious mind and we plug in to a target as it exists as a pattern of information in sort of a collective unconscious or a global mind.
	Astral travel is something else, and I really don't know what it is.
	When it happens to you, it's very different, although I cannot define it.
	One experience is that it's very different than remote viewing.
	You really do perceive as if your body is at the site, while in technical remote viewing you always know that it's just your mind.
	One takes the idea of their body to the site in technical remote viewing, but in astral travel you really feel like you're there.
	Other than that, because I'm not familiar enough with it, I can't give any further descriptions.
	Ed, as you know over the years, and we've talked about this many times, you know I've talked about the quickening.
	It's just a general observation of a non-remote viewer, me, a talk show host who listens to the news every day.
	Some might argue overexposed to it.
	But I really do see events accelerating, without question, in every category.
	Geophysical, political, economic, social.
	Every single category.
	Events are definitely quickening toward something.
	That's just millennial madness, Mark.
	No, it's not.
	No, there's something very real going on, and a lot of people know it, but they don't They don't know the specifics of it, and that's what remote viewing you're saying?
	That's what technical remote viewing does.
	We have to be technically correct.
	For instance, when we turn our attention to something like this specific pathogen, we're going to look at this pathogen.
	We have no idea what it is and its effects, so we're going to need to go down to the molecular level of technical remote viewers and to look at its effects at molecular action sites and at the plant cell level.
	In order to perhaps come up with or help plant pathologists understand what they're dealing with.
	That's the kind of thing that we do.
	All right.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Where are you, please?
	Seminole, Florida.
	Yes, sir.
	Excuse me for the bad connection.
	It's fixed now.
	First of all, regarding affecting someone or something from a distance, do you consider radionic technology to be valid?
	And if so, why?
	Why not use this technology to destroy the plant pathogens and also other cases when one can block your attempts to view something, especially if it's by the person you're attempting to learn something about.
	And I asked this with Courtney Brown in mind as he said, I believe it was John Mack's book, his most recent book, Courtney said they were unable to view something because of the grays blocking them.
	I'll get the radionics in a moment.
	The only experience that I and my team have in something blocking us is with angels.
	you've encountered something like that where a block is intentionally put in your way and
	what it's like?
	I'll get the radionics in a moment.
	The only experience that I and my team have in something blocking us is with angels.
	It's the only thing we've ever run into.
	Angels are real and they can edit information.
	They can shunt you off and slide you off a target onto something else.
	And that's my experience.
	With regard to radionics, it's a very interesting technology, if it is a technology at all.
	Whatever is there doesn't seem to be calibratable.
	It seems to differ, it has different standards from individual to individual.
	I attempted to utilize it in the military and to study it to see if it could be useful as a military tool in any number of areas, but we weren't able to calibrate it or to standardize its use.
	It was different from user to user, so it wasn't useful to us as a military tool.
	Could it be very effective at times and other times not effective at all?
	There was something at work there, but we weren't able to discern what it was.
	If we used technical remote viewing, To remote view the mechanics and or the dynamics involved in that and radionics, we could model it and if you can model it, you could calibrate it, but we haven't had the time to do that.
	That would be an interesting thing for people to do in advanced training after they study the modules that my company is putting out.
	Wow!
	And you said that after the pathogen takes its course, You expect ETs to play some type of role?
	Would that be more open, and what type of role would that be?
	They're here.
	There's another race here, but we think it's... I really, at this juncture, I don't want to talk about them, but it does appear to be a colony of humanoids that do not look very dissimilar from us.
	And I don't want to go into it beyond that, but yes, they're here.
	They're here on the ground with us after the stuff hits the fan and the air clears.
	I've got three important questions, but before I ask, I'd like to say in response to what
	was said earlier.
	The reason for Mr. Dane's giving this information out at this time, I believe I understand,
	for responsible people to prepare.
	Thank you.
	And I appreciate very much that you're doing this, sir.
	It's my pleasure and also my responsibility.
	Well, I feel as you do.
	My three quick questions.
	First one, you mentioned that the North American continent is going to be one of the safe zones, is that correct?
	Nowhere will be safe, but most of the survivors appear to be in temperate North America and Europe.
	Okay, I'm connected with scientists all over the world, and Professor Murray Albertson, he was the co-founder of the Peace Corps, and there's a non-profit organization, Villages, he works with it, these people know me and I know them, and we're preparing to help Villages all over the world.
	I would like at some time to be able to speak To you privately, I want to help.
	Dr. Courtney Brown, he knows me.
	Also, the third question, just food for thought.
	At the appropriate time, you might consider, because you said you can, in fact, give thoughts to leaders, and bringing these leaders together with the proper thoughts in order to prepare... Sir, I did not say that.
	Sorry, sir?
	I did not say that we can influence Todd Pyron.
	Oh, that's right, you didn't.
	People think they hear things.
	I have found, Ed.
	So, we'll just leave it right there.
	You cannot affect another's.
	You might enter another's mind.
	If this gentleman wants to write me, I can give our PO Box number to him.
	All right.
	We will do that following the break here at the top of the hour.
	Okay.
	All right.
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	If this is to come to pass, what about the rainforests all over the world?
	They're a direct link to the weather around the world, and if they didn't exist, we here in the U.S.
	would not receive much rain, and without rain, the U.S.
	would be without water, and without water, nothing would grow.
	That's exactly right.
	That's one of the reasons we're perceiving a barren earth, because of that kind of quickening.
	When you talk about a quickening, there's a specific example of what we mean of an accelerating effect.
	The rainforests go, it affects all kinds of things.
	This pathogen, this plant pathogen, is essentially a facilitator.
	It is something that starts the quickening, if you will, in terms of weather effects and atmospherics.
	All right.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames and Art Bell.
	Good morning.
	Hi, Art.
	I'm calling from San Diego.
	Yes, ma'am.
	During your 2 o'clock break, we have a news break here, and on KFMB, they announced that JPL discovered an asteroid that's possibly on a collision course with Earth on January 10th.
	What?
	That was all the details they gave.
	On, wait a minute, January 10th they discovered it?
	They discovered and they're observing an object, an asteroid object, since January 10th that they're studying that's possibly on a collision course with Earth.
	And that was reported by KFMB News.
	Holy smokes!
	Yeah.
	Was that repeated in the three o'clock hour?
	Yeah, I've been on hold.
	I didn't listen to the three o'clock hour.
	Alright, we'll try and get some confirmation from others in the audience.
	Yeah, it would be interesting.
	Where was it in the newscast?
	In the first of the newscast, they have the regular CBS News.
	Yes.
	And then they have the local KFMB News following that, and it was during the local section.
	Okay.
	But they specifically said JPL.
	Alright, thank you very much.
	Okay.
	Yikes, Ed.
	I guess we'll, if anybody can confirm that by fax or otherwise, please do.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Yes, this is John from Fresno.
	Yes, John.
	I was wondering if you mentioned something about How?
	When someone dies, they lose some weight?
	There's a medical study, sir, on my website from 1907 that documents that, yes.
	Oh, okay.
	It wouldn't just be, you know, how they have their last breath?
	No, if you'll read the study, they take all of that into account.
	Okay.
	Okay?
	Is there any way I can get the number to Mr. Dane?
	There certainly is.
	I guess it's time we gave it out again.
	There's an 800 number now, right, Ed?
	That's for a description and for people who want to order the home study course.
	All right.
	What is it?
	It's 1-800-556-0391.
	Well, I've had you on the show, I don't know, four, five, six times, whatever it is.
	People have always asked, can I take your course?
	Your answer has always been, no, we're full.
	And so this is the first time that I know of that you have ever offered anything.
	And it's the big one.
	It's a home study course.
	And we have two future modules in development.
	And those will be advanced skills and scientific technical theories for geologists and archaeologists and things like that.
	But I don't know if we're going to have time to finish all of those.
	The rate things are going.
	We're quickly being overcome by events.
	I need to mention my new website one more time.
	We have graduates, including a brain surgeon and Joni Durff, our Vice President, in the chat rooms on that website.
	That's www.trv-scitech.com.
	Scitech is spelled T-S-I-T-E-C-H.
	Uh, very good.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi, this is Jolene from Waterloo, Nebraska.
	Alright.
	I have a question.
	Um, you know about MRSA?
	About what?
	MRSA.
	What is that?
	It's micro-resistant staphylococcus.
	Okay.
	It's a pathogenic disease that is not treatable.
	I'm sorry, I'm not a physician.
	I'm not familiar with it.
	What is your point?
	What are you trying to ask here?
	Oh, I see where you're going.
	We got vaccinomycin resistant antibiotics.
	Oh, oh, oh, I see where you're going.
	Yes, we have many diseases that are now resistant to antibiotics.
	And there is a general immune system breakdown.
	That's well underway, right Ed?
	In a global sense, yes.
	Okay, West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hello Art and Ed.
	Hi.
	I just wanted to make a little link here.
	You had Chris Conrad on.
	I caught that interview and I thought that was a great interview and I wanted to mention that with all that's going on Globally with all the weather or the weather Pattern changes.
	I want to mention that hemp flourishes in the ultraviolet light and it's a it's a strong survivor.
	It's a it's a survivor of a plant and also that People are gaining experience growing it indoors already illegally right now, but that's not for the hemp plant that's for marijuana, but um You know, people are learning technology like that, and I just wanted to know your views on that.
	Well, I would think, though, it might thrive in ultraviolet, and I believe that's correct.
	There's a lot of plants that thrive in high levels of UV, but most, unfortunately, most other life forms, including insect eggs, that do not live below the surface of the leaves, that live on top, they die.
	And that's why I say that this pathogen that's inbound will deliver the coup de grace, because it takes out the things that are going to thrive, the rest of the food that we eat.
	It's eliminating the food supply for the disease, the disease being us.
	The disease being us.
	First time caller on the line.
	You're on the air with that, Dave.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Fantastic.
	It's such a privilege to be able to speak with you and with Major, and I can't believe that I got in.
	I wanted to call and mention a few things that I think are of great importance to both of you.
	I know that they will be to me in the near future.
	In light of what Major James has said, I think that there are certain things that we should start, people will say, hoarding, but there are things that we will have to have, I believe, to survive these years, these sorrowful years to come in the near present, and one of them is simply sulfur.
	All right.
	for being uh... as you know prior to world war two that's what was used
	for a long time to keep infection down uh... more or to stop it basically and it's not an
	antibiotic uh... also feel a meal
	ought to be able to vacuum feel uh...
	drive dry fruit and to dry your food to work for nutrition and uh... edible
	all right uh... listen you've got your radio on the background part
	I'm so sorry, I should know better.
	I listen to you religiously, and I again thank you for you, because you're a medium that we're dependent on, I believe, for our survival.
	Again, I thank you.
	I also wanted to ask Major James, if he was familiar with what is happening with our meat suppliers, as one caller had mentioned, or either it was you, about the condition of our Our food source and how that was part of Clinton's campaign, this past one, where he said because we are the most advanced country in the world that it's only right that we should have a means of inspecting our meat sources more conducive to the level that we live at, you know, instead of technically, and this is technically speaking, the method that the government has prescribed and only method prescribed for examination of our meat is called
	Touch and smell.
	This is without any type of tissue sampling being done.
	This is without anything other than that, which is so absurd considering where we have gone, technologically speaking, on a medical level and the advances that we've been able to do.
	The things that we are consuming in our body, all we have to do is look at it, push it around a little bit and sniff it.
	It's amazing.
	Anyway, one of the main reasons that I'm calling, other than what I've just mentioned, is that I had a dealing with the federal government.
	And it was very, very scary, and it was involving these parasites.
	I have two twins that are diabetic from infancy, and it is non-congenital.
	This also goes along with what Major James has said in regards to the milk supply.
	We believe that there was a crossing over in my milk, of which they absorbed a chemical that led to the breakdown of the Langerhans cells in the pancreas, which is basically the symptoms of diabetes.
	The one child that readily breastfed He succumbed to the disease 13 months prior to the other child that when, just like an animal, when I would put him to the breast and he was extremely hungry, he would look up at me, this is from small infancy, very angry and he would refuse the breast even though he was very hungry.
	He sent something in the milk.
	Now he didn't succumb to the disease for another year, although he did breastfeed.
	I was able to, I have a Bausch & Lomb microscope in my home.
	All right, well let's hold it right there.
	for both of them at the end of the event uh... make a long story short i detected in the park supply
	now uh... sixty minutes and one of the other nationwide news
	uh... program has chastised the meat manufacturing industry in northern california all right well that's let's
	hold it right there and uh... hasn't begun this business with the the
	milk in the babies i i i personally think that if you eat meat you're crazy
	It's meat and poultry are pumped full of, it's not just the outside, the bacteria on the outside of meat, but what is in the meat in terms of chemicals.
	If you care to look, you won't eat meat again.
	No, she really is right, you know, about the Inspection process for the most part it's touch and smell and that's it.
	There's quite, the technology is available as a former biophysics guy and I'll tell you it's quite easy to make detectors these days to sample but it's expensive and it's time consuming.
	It eats up a lot of time in the packaging process and therefore it's not used.
	It would up the price of the product by at least five times.
	The baby's dying, though, Ed.
	When will we begin to significantly see that start to occur?
	I think you're going to see it in Africa real fast, within the next year.
	In North America, for other reasons.
	North America, it's because of food products and the kinds of things that This poor woman was alluding to, but in other countries it's simply because of starvation and hunger suppresses the immune system.
	Diseases are going to take off like wildfire.
	You're right about that.
	Alright, first time caller on the line, you're on the air with Ed Dames, hi.
	Hi, I'm calling from West Los Angeles and Ed, I would like to know if the techniques that a blind person would need to use for remote viewing would be any different than anyone else.
	We think not.
	In fact, my challenge that I would like to take on would be Stephen Hawkins.
	Because of the techniques that we use, using the autonomic nervous system, we think that not only is it quite easy for a blind person to learn this, but I think I would like to personally teach Stephen Hawkins, the famous English physicist.
	Would I be able to use your video course?
	Only if there's somebody else there.
	We use illustrations.
	There's two important things that we illustrate in the video that you have to see prior to using our protocols, our checklist that comes with the video.
	You have to have somebody take your hand and hold it, literally hold your hand and produce some marks on the paper in a certain way.
	After you experience that, there's no problem any longer.
	I'm going to do that one time.
	So once that's over with you, I can just go on and do the rest.
	No problem.
	All right, thanks a lot.
	All right, thank you, sir.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Good morning.
	Hi, this is Jones, Carson City.
	Yes, sir.
	Oh, we've gone forward.
	Let's go backwards.
	All right.
	Time travel will last a while.
	One of the spots I'd like to go to is the Grassy Knoll in Dallas.
	Have you been there, Ed?
	Who did it?
	Actually, one of the military team members, one of the first of this country's remote viewers, Mel Riley and I did that together.
	Mel, who works for my company, just had a heart attack three days ago.
	He's undergoing bypass surgery.
	He and I remote viewed the Kennedy assassination, yes.
	And?
	It appears that, uh, unfortunately, I did not want to believe this, uh, nor did I for many years.
	It appears that one, uh, this is cursory information.
	We did not double-check the work, but it, but, uh, we do have two remote viewing sessions to indicate that the flechette that punctured, uh, JFK's Adam's apple was fired from within the vehicle.
	Wow!
	But not from, uh, a pistol, from a device.
	That's sad, because of course it confirms that there was a conspiracy.
	Let's use a hypothetical example.
	Why are the records sealed for 99 years?
	Suppose you're an FBI agent, and let's suppose hypothetically that J. Edgar Hoover was part of this conspiracy.
	You'd want the records sealed, because you'd be ineffective as an agent, flashing that badge anywhere.
	Certainly.
	Yeah, all of that is speculative, but I'll lay it out on the table for you.
	No, we haven't confirmed it, but many people will be able to do that when they learn these techniques and look at a lot of other things.
	All right, Culler.
	Thank you.
	That's a really sad thing to consider.
	It wasn't only sad to consider.
	Think of me as a 17-year-old.
	I was in the Army from the time I was 17 to 41 with a four-year break to go to a university.
	And having served my country, I refused to believe that anything like this could happen.
	I didn't want to believe it.
	But as a remote viewer, there it was.
	And there was no way, unequivocally, that there was something that was fired from within the vehicle.
	And that means that it had to be put there.
	A lot of my innocence has gone, too.
	There really was a day, Ed, when I believed everything the FBI... If the FBI would come to a podium, make an announcement, boy, I'll tell you, it was good as gold for me.
	And I don't know exactly when that day stopped, but it was sometime after the assassination.
	That changed America.
	That was a real turning point in America for a lot of people, whether you believe in a conspiracy or not.
	JFK's murder Assassination was a turning point, wasn't it?
	I think so.
	It was for me.
	In retrospect.
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	Well, the following comes under the category of holy smokes.
	But I've got two separate facts confirmations of what that lady said a little while
	ago.
	I'll read them to you from Chris in Escondido.
	Art, I was a bit shocked to hear the same news announcement regarding the oncoming asteroid.
	I think the female KFMB news announcer said NASA scientists instead of JPL.
	The announcement said that the NASA scientists on January 10th discovered an asteroid on a possible collision course with Earth.
	They are investigating further.
	No more details.
	Wow!
	And the second one.
	Art, I just want to confirm news about the asteroid on KFMB in San Diego that the caller told you about.
	She told it exactly as the news did.
	Great show.
	Long time listener.
	At least seven years.
	Phyllis in San Diego County.
	Strange.
	Strange times.
	Indeed.
	Alright, back now to Major Ed Dames.
	Major, an asteroid, just what we need.
	I wonder what it has on it.
	We really, really, really live in strange times.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	I got a question for him.
	I just got off work and was listening, and I don't know if he's already talked about this or not, but I just bought this book by Jim Schnabel.
	I'd like to ask what he thinks of that.
	And on the book by Courtney Brown, I was wondering, he said there are aliens living here.
	Is he talking about the same as what he said in his book, the Martians?
	Let me answer the question about this novel book first.
	Okay.
	Jim Schnabel did a pretty good job researching the early history, the early history of remote viewing and the Department of Defense.
	A very good job indeed.
	It kind of fell apart in the end, but what the public doesn't know is that Jim worked for the CIA for two years and that he was part of the disinformation campaign that discredited it last year.
	Jim took my remote viewing course when the company was based in Albuquerque and did a darn good job in the course, but he came to debunk remote viewing and he went away very angry that it worked.
	So I think you can see some of the anger in this book.
	Alright, on the Courtney Brown book.
	Courtney's book, I think the first part of the book is fairly accurate in terms of vignettes.
	It's accurate because I was Courtney's monitor in addition to being his trainer, but it fell apart after that for other reasons that I really don't want to get into again.
	He took it away on his own after that.
	Right.
	Thank you, caller.
	And take care.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Daines.
	Hi.
	Good morning, Art, and good morning, Major Ed Daines.
	How are you?
	Fine, thank you.
	Yes, I have a couple questions here, so don't hang up on me, Art, after I get done with the first one.
	It strikes me as odd that with all your remote viewing that you have not remote viewed the
	inside of our most popular paranormal objects such as UFOs and the ones here on earth that
	is.
	Real quick if you could answer that and then I've got another question.
	Which UFOs are you referring to?
	The ones here on earth, the ones that we see every day.
	If you name a specific sighting that is what we target.
	If you look at UFOs in general there are all kinds of species.
	Right, those are some of the most important questions that we have.
	Now I've got another question and I just want to know if you could describe the inside of
	a UFO after I finish the second question.
	It would seem to me that if you could remote view something the first thing you would be
	remote viewing would be the, well the UFO is here I already said that.
	But you call it technically remote viewing, right?
	Technically remote viewing.
	Why don't you technically remote view the inside of an extraterrestrial body so we can find out what they're made of?
	That would seem to be some of the most important questions to pose to a technical remote viewer.
	That's an interesting question.
	What would you do with that information?
	You can't validate anything.
	Yeah, but it would sure look great on a website.
	I'll tell you what.
	Why don't you take our home study course and do it yourself?
	Well, I was curious why you don't talk about it.
	Because there are so many aspects of this problem to talk about.
	If you would like me to discuss one aspect, I would be glad to.
	There are lots of different vehicles.
	Some are manned, some are unmanned, and I use that term loosely.
	There are a number of different races.
	Let me give you an example of a problem here.
	It is a good question.
	Let's take the Billy Meyer beam ship stuff.
	That's all fake.
	On the other hand, the Carlos Diaz plasma ship is not a ship at all.
	It is a projection from a very distant part of our galaxy.
	It is a projection through space-time.
	It's an opening through space-time, a twisted, contorted opening that people call a vehicle, and yet it's as much a vehicle as a spotlight shining on the clouds.
	Is it alien-induced?
	You bet.
	On the other side is a very strange set of creatures.
	This is the kind of things you run into, and you have to put it into context.
	Each frame, each different event has its own contextual information.
	Well, on the next time you're on our show, can you get up an artistic rendition of the inside of an alien that you've remotely viewed?
	I think that that would be doable.
	How about a gray?
	I think the grays would do well if they marketed the gray diet.
	That would be the best diet plan I can think of.
	Okay, thank you Art, and thank you Ed.
	Alright, thank you.
	There are a lot of robotic or android types out there too.
	There's technologies, as you might guess, that are not human.
	They look human, but when you remote view them, You're dealing with a sentient machine that does not have a soul.
	ed with respect to what you said earlier about the plant pathogen
	uh...
	cosh particularly with this late news uh... if all of this would come to pass ed uh... eighty
	five percent to pass on fifteen percent to linger within about a ten-year
	period young uh...
	wouldn't it be true and that there would be a lot of people out there that
	frankly would be better off not knowing.
	I I think that that might be the case, but that's not for me to decide.
	There'll be a lot of people that would choose to check out, but there's people that choose to check out every day.
	I'm sure you've thought it out.
	By going this public, you've thought it out.
	There are people like that.
	Better to ignorance is bliss.
	Why no?
	Because I can't do anything about it anyway.
	Basically, you are telling them that there's not a lot that can be done.
	It's going to occur.
	I think that if anybody's listening to your show, those are the type of people.
	That's a good answer.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi Art, hi Ed.
	Hi there.
	I was listening in Minneapolis on KFPP, but they cut away.
	They have a morning show to do.
	Yeah, which is useless.
	Uh, I'd like two things.
	One from you, Art, and one from Ed.
	All right.
	Ed, uh, what is your P.O.
	box?
	P.O.
	box 3762.
	Beverly Hills, California.
	Uh-huh.
	90212.
	You better... 90212.
	Yeah, do it again, Ed, please.
	Okay, that's, uh, SciTech Incorporated.
	P.O.
	box 3762.
	Beverly Hills, California, 90212.
	And for Art, and then I have a question for Ed.
	For Art, of course this program is going to be popular beyond belief.
	You've got a lot of new listeners.
	Your number for getting tapes of the show.
	Oh, okay.
	That's true.
	To get a copy of this program or any other with a guest, number is 1-800- 9-1-7-4-2-7-8.
	9-1-7-4-2-7-8.
	Yes.
	Way to go.
	Okay.
	Major Danes, one of the fascinating guests that Art has had on was Joyce Riley.
	And given your technical remote viewing during the Gulf War, can you confirm uh... the biological in addition to the chemical weapons used that may be causing uh... all of the gulf war syndrome illnesses being reported and documented now by Joyce Riley very very good question thank you okay listen carefully the not all of most of
	The so-called Gulf War Syndrome was a result of something that was totally unpredictable.
	Think of water.
	If you have oxygen and hydrogen, who would have ever imagined that if you put those two together and light a match, you have this wonderful new substance that's liquid and flows.
	Well, I use that as an analogy.
	You notice that all of the troops were given A tablet, and they were forced to take this tablet.
	This tablet was pyridostigmine bromide.
	It was an experimental drug made by a Swiss company, and the drug was supposed to ward off the effects of nerve gas.
	I use ward off loosely, I don't want to get into technical details.
	It was used for prophylaxis of nerve gas treatment, as Nurse Riley knows.
	But, in combination with the volatile aromatic hydrocarbons from the burning oil fields constantly,
	in combination with the pyridostringium bromide in the system, it produced an absolutely horrifying
	abnormality, a genetic malady that was totally unpredictable.
	And that is what caused Gulf War Syndrome.
	But the Department of Defense is not going to take credit for that, nor assume responsibility for it, because of the amount of money that it would have to pay to those veterans and their families afflicted with that genetic disease.
	That is the long and the short of it.
	Most of the casualties were not by enemy bio or chemical warfare.
	It was by our own inadvertent naive ignorance about the effects It was unpredictable.
	It was a mistake, an accident, but nevertheless it happened.
	Pyridostigmine bromide in combination with volatile aromatic hydrocarbons.
	All right.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Good morning, gentlemen.
	Good morning.
	You've certainly given all of us a lot to think about.
	Arden, in reference to what you were saying about people not wanting to know, it has been my experience that You can tell somebody something, and if they don't want to hear it, they won't hear it.
	It's true.
	Or they will deny that it's real, and they'll go on.
	Or they'll get angry.
	Well, what's being done here is giving people information and giving them a chance to make a choice.
	And that's where, I believe, our responsibility comes in.
	And along that line, in making choices, and making the proper choices, I would be interested in knowing How do you view the Mad Max scenario coming about?
	We can sit, those of us that choose to prepare, choose to stockpile food or whatever, we're still in a situation, most people in this country are in a situation of having a mortgaged home.
	What's going to happen as far as the economic picture?
	I mean, are we going to be told to take our supplies and move out on the street?
	Or do you see just such a sudden economic collapse that there's not going to be anybody in the mortgage companies to collect?
	It's just going to collapse.
	It's going to collapse all around our ears all at once, like the one horseshoe.
	So basically, if we're ready to survive where we are and if our instinct tells us That we are where we need to be.
	Don't worry about the mortgage, worry about eating.
	And don't worry about your instinct.
	Use these training courses specifically to research the idea of sanctuary and those kinds of survival conditions, effective survival conditions for yourself and your family.
	Well, it's been real strange because over the past few years my family has been telling me I'm crazy.
	I have had a picture in my mind of where I needed to be, where we needed to be to survive.
	I didn't know survive what, but I've had a very distinct picture and I've spent the last many years creating that place.
	I want you to know, though, I did order your tapes as soon as I heard the announcement tonight.
	You know, I hear a lot of times, people, we know, as remote viewers, what we should do.
	But many people will say, I know I should move, or I know I should go here, but, and they give all these reasons why they shouldn't.
	And many times it's a move that the universe supports.
	It's kind of like, it's a groove that is supported by the cosmos.
	I won't wax along and draw on about that.
	There's excuses for not doing it all the time.
	Mostly fear.
	Well, yeah, there's a lot of fear.
	There's definitely going to be a lot of fear, but I'm one of those crazy people that has a lot of hope, and I plan on surviving, and I plan on making sure my family survives.
	I would guess that would be most of my audience.
	I want to confirm something.
	Art, this is email.
	Missed the first few minutes of the program tonight, so don't know if you are aware of the latest from JPL.
	Another source here, folks.
	Heard on the Los Angeles NBC 11 o'clock news, they have found a new asteroid in Earth orbit with a nine and one half month return rate.
	They say they'll need a few more passes to know if it's going to be a problem.
	They said it was about the same size as the one that caused the meteor crater in Arizona.
	That should it hit L.A., it would make Northridge look like an inconvenience.
	Just thought you'd want to know.
	Unbelievable.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Good morning, Art.
	Where are you, sir?
	I'm in Tennessee.
	This is Art in Tennessee again.
	How are you, sir?
	Fine.
	Good morning, Major.
	Good morning.
	Someone brought up the Kennedy assassination earlier.
	I don't know if this is a question that maybe I should answer, but I was seven years old when that took place.
	I was just a kid.
	And I always thought, you know, at that time at Oswald was the one that did it and all that stuff.
	But I have different views now that I've gotten older.
	And I've often wondered, you know, they say that Marilyn Monroe was linked with JFK and Robert and what have you.
	I'm also wondering maybe if she knew too much or something and maybe they, somebody might
	have just, maybe they had something to do with her death.
	In other words, was Marilyn Monroe murdered?
	Yes.
	Ed?
	I don't know.
	I just want to qualify one thing.
	Although there was a flechette fired from a close range in the JFK assassination, there was also a high-powered round that came in from the outside, so I'm not discounting that.
	Marilyn Monroe, don't know.
	There's just too many things to look at, aren't there?
	I know.
	A whole world full of them.
	And not a lot of time left.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Where are you?
	Uh, this is Lisa in Colorado.
	Lisa, I can barely hear you.
	Get into that phone and yell at us.
	Okay, this is Lisa in Colorado.
	Right.
	Go ahead.
	Uh, yes.
	Um, well, this may sound strange, however, um, I find this kind of a relief.
	To hear what Major Dames has been talking about tonight.
	I'm 44 now.
	Since I was 10, I've had a picture of the end of the millennium that people would be going bonkers.
	That people would be killed for food and just the widespread insanity.
	And to actually have some kind of Confirmation of that gives me something to work on.
	And along with this picture I had, I felt this need for people to remain solid, to be kind of a rock, to maintain sanity.
	So this strengthens my resolve.
	Now you need to do something, and that's to find like-minded people.
	People like yourself.
	Yes.
	And, I mean, actually be with them during these times, because those are the type of people that will survive.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not personally concerned about surviving myself.
	I've escaped death on at least 15 occasions that I know of, and had the privilege of drowning.
	And when I realized that I was drowning, panic just hit.
	And I thought, wow, this is really interesting.
	You know, what a fascinating state to be in.
	However, in this panic, I can't be aware of anything else.
	Ma'am, we are so short on time.
	I love your outlook on things, and I would love to have more of a conversation with you, but the program is ending.
	To get Ed's tapes, you can call 1-800-556- 0-3-9-1.
	Correct, Ed?
	That's a technical remote viewing home study course.
	Home training course.
	So, I know we'll do it again.
	It's not goodbye, I guess, just till next time, Ed.
	Well, pleasant dreams, Art.
	Thanks, Ed.
	Good night.
	Good night.
	That's it, folks.
	If you'd like a copy of this program, and I imagine many of you will, It is a five-hour program.
	You can order it beginning now by calling 1-800-917-4278.
	That's 1-800-917-4278.
	We will be back tomorrow night at the same time, same station, and all of that.
	A lot to think about.

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