Art Bell dissects the 1996 TWA Flight 800 explosion, spotlighting Linda Cabot’s disputed missile photo—FBI-confiscated—and eyewitness reports from military pilots, while questioning media bias in convention coverage (NBC’s 30-minute Democratic focus vs. Republican neglect). Callers debate welfare dependency, compass deviations (10-20 degrees off), and baseless conspiracy theories like Clinton bodyguards on the plane or UN population control schemes, though Bell dismisses most as fringe. A Montana standoff involving giant pet rats and a failed Jupiter probe tech update briefly divert attention before he circles back to Flight 800’s unresolved mysteries, urging listeners to scrutinize evidence on his website. The episode blends skepticism of official narratives with sharp political critiques, leaving unanswered questions about government accountability and eyewitness credibility. [Automatically generated summary]
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I'm Art Bell.
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Well, it took all day long.
But the photograph that I have been wanting, I now have.
But they are very good people and tried very hard.
Then we discovered that MSNBC's website had the photograph we were searching for.
Now, if you go to my website now, you will be able to see it.
There are three versions of it in a link to MSNBC.
And it will be in the new category right at the top of the webpage.
Let me read you again the New York Times article that set off this search.
New York Times, Hampton Bays, New York.
All things being equal, Linda Cabot says she wishes she had never taken the photograph.
But she did.
What can she say?
In the dusky sky that serves as a backdrop for the otherwise routine snapshot, there appears to be a cylindrical object with one end aglow.
On another day, another part of the country, the object, if it is an object, would have been dismissed as a simple optical illusion of some sort or the result of a watermark on the camera lens.
But Cabot took the photograph on the fateful night of July 17th when TWA Flight 800 exploded a few miles south of where she stood with her camera.
Once the FBI heard about Cabot's snapshot, it requested and received the commercially developed photographs from the RolaFilm as well as all the negatives.
Now, this photograph is not distinct.
As you might imagine, it would not be distinct.
I believe that it was a Republican fundraiser that was underway at the time, and they were taking photographs of people that were there at the party.
However, in the background, clearly, there is something.
Bearing in mind, this was a photograph taken in the correct direction at the correct time and that it was not intended to be a photograph of a missile, but of a person.
And anybody who does any camera work knows that you focus on the people in the foreground.
That is the way you focus a camera.
So, this is your opportunity.
And what I would say is, go to my website now, because we had a lot of trouble locating it and getting it set up.
And I want to thank Keith, as usual, Keith Rowland, for all the machinations we went through today to get this up there for you.
You take a look.
You tell me what it was in that sky that night at that time.
There's about 200 eyewitnesses now who saw something headed toward that airplane.
I think there is a good chance this was that something.
If it wasn't, then you tell me what it is.
So, as I said, that photograph, as promised, is now on my webpage.
You go take a look and send me some facts.
I'll give you my facts number or some email and let me know what you think.
It is definitely something.
And it was in the sky in the right direction at the right time.
If that's not a missile, what is it?
My webpage is www.artbell.com.
www.artbell.com.
So go take a look, and if one of the pictures doesn't come out for you, try one of the other ones, depending on the browser you're using.
All right, what else is going on?
Oh, yes.
Flashback to yesterday and this.
Good morning, Art.
I, too, have noticed a change in my compass reading.
This afternoon, while driving to work, I glanced down at the compass in my car and happened to notice it was off by 10 degrees.
I thought it was just my compass since it is a few years old.
So I went out and bought a new one tonight after work, and what do you think happened?
The same damn thing with a brand new one.
Now I know my orientation and where points of reference lie with regard to north, south, east, and west.
So this leaves me wondering what the hell is going on, especially since you just mentioned it at the top of your show.
Weird.
Glad to have you back from vacation.
So now we have two separate, distinct, really three reports of compass deviation.
This happened about a year ago, and I wonder if it's occurring again now.
So those of you who are able and who do regular compass readings, do us all a favor and take a quick look and let me know.
That too would be a reason to fax me.
My fax number is area code 702-727-8499, 702-727-8499.
I watched NBC News tonight, and the only news they had on was the convention, one way or the other.
It took up the entire 30 minutes.
Other than a stock market report, I don't think I saw any other news.
That was it.
Now, as you know, during the Republican convention, I was on vacation.
So I don't know what kind of resources of the networks were devoted to the convention.
You tell me.
Please do tell me.
And maybe it was the same.
Maybe all 30 minutes were devoted to the Republican Convention.
I don't know.
I wasn't here.
I'm just wondering.
I'm just curious, because I'll tell you, fluff pieces and all, discussion of First Ladies and the convention took all 30 minutes of NBC's evening news.
First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton took on Republican nominee Bob Dole Tuesday night, offered a spirited defense of her book on child rearing.
Ms. Clinton told Democratic Convention in Chicago that Dole's scathing attack on her book, It Takes a Village, was wrong.
Dole said it just takes a mama and a daddy, mother and a father to raise a child, not a village.
First Lady replied tonight, no, it takes parents, teachers, clergy, business people, and it takes a president to raise a child.
It takes a president to raise a child.
And I'm curious how many of you out there feel that this president or any other has had a lot to do with your child's rearing.
Does your child frequently mention the president?
No, mommy, I can't do that because the president said I can't do that.
Or I shouldn't do that.
Or the president said this or that.
In other words, how much influence has the president had on the rearing of your child?
I don't know where they get this stuff.
Former New York Governor Mario Cuomo appeared to fellow Democrats and gave Bill Clinton and Al Gore a rousing wish for four more years.
He said, Bill Clinton spells hope and Republicans spell disaster.
Well, the Democrats, you'll know, stick here to four-letter words, hope.
Jesse Jackson rose then, noted he disagreed with the president's decision to sign welfare reform, but applauded the president for raising the minimum wage and backing affirmative action.
Indiana Governor Bayh in the keynote address pictured the president as a man with an unfinished agenda to restore opportunity, responsibility, and sense family for all.
Well, he has an unfinished agenda, but you know, part of it was to get the homosexuals into the military.
He had to end up settling for a don't ask, don't tell policy, so that agenda isn't finished.
He was going to nationalize virtually health care in America, and of course he didn't finish that agenda.
He was going to give the middle class a tax break, and he didn't finish that agenda.
So I guess he does have an unfinished agenda.
Dear Art, welcome home.
I've been watching it too.
Just saw Jesse now watching Mario.
Amazes me how the Democrats continue to paint over the meaning of their words.
Fact is, by what I'm hearing, these people are totally socialist.
They need more programs to cover up their continuing failures that the average American has been forced to fund during the past 40 years.
So there you have it.
The Democrats are whooping it up in Chicago.
Meanwhile, Hurricane Edward Edward is whooping it up right now to the 130-mile per hour mark.
This is a big hurricane.
And they don't know where it's going to go.
Could head toward the islands.
It's presently 265 miles north-northeast of the Leeward Islands and moving west-northwest.
Could come to the U.S. Could come north, hit the Bahamas.
It's hard to know exactly what it's going to do, and they don't know.
But if it does hit the coast, it's going to be bad.
The Chechnyan situation is due to continue to improve.
Russian troops are supposed to resume their withdrawal beginning tomorrow.
We will see, believe almost nothing of what you read about Russia.
They talk peace and, indeed, have a lot of war.
Dear Art, early this morning, between 8:15 and 8.45, a newscaster on Las Vegas radio station KJUL announced between songs that the National UFO Research Department is seeking witnesses to an event in the southwest that occurred last night that could be described as a battle between people on the ground and a hovering craft.
He was rather adamant.
The story was real.
I contacted the station.
They said it came from Westwood 1.
I don't know what show it was.
Couldn't find anything else about it.
Have you heard any accounts, or is it just more disinformation?
I don't know.
It's the only report on it that I've got.
Hey, Art.
Hello again.
Isn't Executive Decision a killer movie?
I saw it first last March, a few weeks before it hit the theaters, sneak preview, and it blew Broken Arrow away.
This is a return to the earlier years, 30 years ago, that kind of drug use.
Dear Art, here is my anti-union joke for the day.
Please feel free to use it.
What's orange and sleeps six?
People in California will appreciate the answer.
A Caltrans crew cab is the answer to that.
All right, well, I've got quite a bit more here, but I think I'm going to hold it.
The moon be full.
I don't know if you've glanced outside, but it's a great big round moon up there.
And of course, it indicates nearly anything can happen.
One more time, I want to urge you computer users to quickly head up toward our website and get a look at this photograph and tell me what you think it is, bearing in mind it was the right place, the right angle, the right time on that fateful night when TWA-800 was shot down.
It comes from the Orange County Register in the opinion page.
And I'm not going to read you the whole article because I decided the title of the article really asks the question that I want to ask.
And it's not a question here.
It's simply an article entitled, The Lies We Tell Our Young People.
And I thought, you know, there lies an important family values question.
The Democrats are wanting to talk about family values, and I think that's just fine.
And I think this would be a spiffy way to torch off a conversation on exactly that.
We tell our young people a lot of lies.
Now, the article, of course, mentions drugs.
The article mentions sex.
But as I think across the spectrum of things that you raise with a child and things you tell a child, we tell them a lot of lies, don't we?
That just might have something to do with the reason that they come up and become less than perfect little citizens, you know, some of them indulging in crime and drug sales and some of them to a lesser degree disagreeable, foul little children.
And why are we raising a group of, at least to some degree, disagreeable, foul little children?
The answer might lie with, no pun intended, what we tell our young people.
The lies we tell our young people as adults, and we all do it.
I'm sure I'm guilty of it myself.
But I thought I would ask you what you thought some of the lies are that we tell young people, that adults, not just individually, but nearly as a group inculcate in our youth.
Lies, untruths, warnings that we give our young people.
Many times it comes as kind of a warning.
Don't you do this or don't you do that or this will happen.
Lies.
Otherwise said lies.
So if anybody has any contribution to what we're going to form as a list here, how about it?
What are the lies we tell our young people?
Anybody with any nomination?
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You and I have talked about the possibility of some nation getting very close to the United States with portable missile launchers.
And then, you know, you launch a nuke into the atmosphere that detonates.
The close-up looks interesting, but I am puzzled by something when one checks further down in the story and sees the picture of the people who were photographed.
Nothing abnormal in the background, yet the story quotes Mrs. Cabola saying her husband notices something in the frame that glows.
Why can't we see that glow in the background?
Well, my guess would be we only have scans, not the original photograph to begin with.
And secondly, it just may be one of those things that after the news of TWA broke, they went back intentionally and took a look at their photographs and looked very closely, very closely.
It did require a blow-up of that area to get a good look at it.
Now, I'm not saying that's a missile, but if it isn't, what is it?
What is it?
You go take a look.
And again, my thanks to everybody involved.
But it finally turned out that we were able to just link to MSNBC and obtain the photograph there.
And you'll see that one of them will work for you, one of those links.
My webpage is www.artbell.com.
One more little note, just received a facts from somebody.
It says, Art, there's been a military takeover of a small town in Pennsylvania.
My friend just called me and said that the military with the infamous black helicopters have taken over a small town in Pennsylvania.
I was wondering if you've heard the rumors going around that some bigwigs in the Democratic Party back in Washington are asking Bill Clinton to either step down from the nomination or resign.
There's some sort of stake about the Whitewater, and some of the heavyweights in the Democratic Party are trying to talk Mr. Clinton into either backing out of the nomination or resigning.
One of the first things I noticed about the increased press given the Democratic Convention was that when the Republican convention was going on, they continued to state that there was no news, that nothing was going on, that the whole event could have been staged because nothing was happening.
What I wanted to know was, I wasn't, of course, in the country during that time.
While I got news of the convention, what I did not get was a sense of how the media was covering it, and I still don't have that.
Now, again, watching NBC News last night, other than the stock market report, I guess, as far as they're concerned, nothing else happened in the world but the Democrats Convention, or was about to happen.
You know, they were anticipating it.
And here's a little taste of what so-and-so is going to say and so-and-so is going to say.
But they spent a full 30 minutes on that and welfare reform and all related to the convention.
30 minutes, beginning to end.
Like nothing else happened.
So for those of you who were here during the Republican convention, did we get equal treatment?
Although my vacation pictures are there now, by the way.
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Oh, okay.
Tune in for that.
You know, back when I guess it was the first day after the plane went down and they were showing all those interviews on TV of people saying something was rising up from the surface of the water towards the plane.
I was thinking of a missile, but I wasn't thinking a friendly fire incident until just recently.
Based on everything I'm hearing coming out of the Democratic Convention, God forbid should Bill Clinton win re-election and Hillary Clinton run in 2000, the American people may have to arm themselves to defend themselves from their government.
I'm trying to figure out what is the right type of long gun for me to obtain, and what is the right cartridge that should be adopted by the American people when they choose weapons with which to defend themselves.
I think that the question you ask is kind of a flippant one in the sense that you would appear to be asking what is the right equipment to stock up for for a revolution, you know, if I'm reading through what you're saying correctly, and I'm sure I am.
And in other words, to fight off the government.
Well, I don't think it's going to come to that.
If you're sincerely asking what is a good self-defense weapon, that would vary from person to person, their capabilities, their stature, their abilities, and all the rest of it.
But that is not what, in fact, you were saying.
It was readily transparent what you were saying and kind of silly.
Yeah, this one guy, you know, this guy is like the whole saying goes, symbolism without substance.
I think that if he gets re-elected, he's going to turn completely liberal, turn, you know, completely against everything that's right, as quote what I'm saying.
Yeah, I have a comment or a thought about the facts that you got that was on TWA stationary about what it was about communications between the people at TWA and the Pentagon.
What I was thinking is that that could have been kind of a fact that was faked by somebody from a foreign country like Iraq or something that would have the intention of taking the gaze off of the foreign terrorists and putting it onto friendly fire type of situation.
Yeah, well, he didn't really care because that was not the message that he was trying to send.
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Yeah, I think before we start worrying about having a revolution in this country, we better start paying attention to what some of these guys like Major Dames are saying about digging at the hole to keep them blown away.
No, two important things and two frivolous things if you count the Democrat Convention.
The most important thing, in my opinion, is this missile photograph.
We've got it.
We went through many machinations during the day trying to get it.
Our friends at Hard Copy tried their best but couldn't release the photograph to us.
Then it turned up on the MSNBC website.
So you can go to my website and take a look at that photograph now.
Now, some people are writing and saying, well, where's the TWA jet?
Well, that's not necessarily in the photograph at all.
I don't see it.
Look, this is a woman on Long Island during a political fundraising event of some kind, you know, a party, and her husband who took a photograph of some of the people at the party.
It just so happens that she was pointed, whoever took the picture, was pointing the camera at the right place at the right time, and what they caught is open to debate.
I don't see the TWA jetliner there, nor is it represented as supposed to be there, as supposedly being there, so I don't see it.
But that doesn't mean this missile was not in flight toward it.
I say missile.
I don't know what it is.
You see, they were focusing on the people, obviously, at the party, trying to take a picture of the people, not the sky.
And so what they caught was, and obviously out of focus, because you're focusing on the people, with respect to a little tiny part of the sky where they caught what appears to be a missile in flight.
So I'm telling you, you go up there and take a look at that photograph, and you tell me what that is, right place, right time, something very anomalous that looks an awful lot like a missile to me.
I think this is a very important photograph.
The FBI has confiscated the photographs and the negatives.
But there was one photograph left.
It's now out.
And you need to take a good, hard look at it and tell me what it is.
This is significant.
I'm not saying that it is absolute smoking missile proof.
It's not.
But by God, it's something in the sky at the right time, the right place.
And I suggest you take a look.
It took a lot of work to get it up there.
And I want to thank everybody involved, including MSNBC, which has it on their page, including Keith Rowland, who managed to get the links put in, including Hard Copy, who tried to get it to us.
They were very nice.
But anyway, it's done.
You go up there and take a look, please.
The other item is last night, this is really under the category of here we go again, and I'm going to read you some faxes, and then I think you better do some checking.
Keith in Magnetic Volcano last night called up and said, hey, we've got a big 10-degree magnetic deviation suddenly.
Then a lady sent me a fax tonight before the show saying, Art, I too noticed a 10-degree deviation, so I went out and bought a new compass.
And I'll be damned if I didn't get the same one.
And now, come rolling in the following faxes.
Let me read them to you.
Art, I missed the top of the show.
But I took a compass reading with a very good Lasantic compass.
I sighted in on a tree that the sun rises behind every day.
Should be east.
And lo and behold, I'm off by 10 to 12 degrees.
It's happened before.
I think about 8 to 10 months ago.
What's up?
Robin in San Diego.
Or this.
Dear Art, compass readings taken just now on a military unit show a 15-degree shift of magnetic north to the east from the normal here in Alaska.
My mobile home was set originally at 355 degrees and is now reading 340.
What this will do to navigation, what will it do?
Anything not GPS guided?
Is there an agency that can be contacted to verify this?
Thank you.
Rich in Glen Allen, Alaska.
Or this, dear art, North on my compass, is pointing more to the north, northeast.
This is really bizarre.
How can we find an explanation?
And so forth.
So I'm beginning to get those facts is it begins to look to me as though we may be in the middle of another strange, anomalous, magnetic variation.
So anybody out there who wants to check is welcome to do so and fax me.
And if you've seen the photograph of this anomalous object in the sky over the skies of Long Island, out toward the ocean at the right time, I would like you to take a look.
I'm not saying this is a missile.
I'm just saying it's a hell of a coincidence to have something like this in the sky, whatever this thing is, just literally seconds before the blow-up of this airplane.
And then, inspired by an article in the Orange County Register entitled The Lies We Tell Our Young People, I've been asking you what lies you think we tell our children.
And oh, we do tell lies, don't we?
My wife said, it'll only hurt for a minute.
She said, it doesn't taste bad.
That's right.
We tell our children that.
Go ahead, honey.
It doesn't taste bad.
Go ahead.
Take a bite.
Art, we begin by telling our children about the Two Fairy Santa Claus Easter bunny.
While it's fun and cute, it tells our children that wishing makes true, rather than teaching them that whatever they want in life must be worked for and earned.
Sean in Yucca Valley says, you'll understand that when you grow up.
Right, Sean.
Yeah, right.
You'll understand that when you grow up.
There are a lot of things that grown-ups never do understand, right?
You know, somebody pointed out last night, Dr. Carlotta, or maybe I pointed out to him, that back in the days of the earlier, less higher-tech probes, they all worked.
But in recent years, if you look at what we've sent out, they've all failed.
They're getting close to shots of the moon of Jupiter that we want to see, and there's going to be a computer problem.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Hi, Art.
You know, I think that the picture has a great deal of relevance based upon just solely the fact that there were so many credible witnesses to a missile, you know, early on.
The one that got me was the two military pilots, Jocks, who were in a commercial aircraft and said without equivocation, that was a missile.
Period.
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Yeah, and you know, the other thing was, I don't know if you've heard this, I don't know exactly classified a rumor, I suppose, but on KSFO, somebody called in who had been to Paris and said that there's an Israeli newspaper published in Paris two days after the crash had stated that it was, in fact, shot down by accident by the U.S. military.
And the very next day, huge noise was made about Jonathan Pollard being released and his wife went on a hunger strike.
Why is it, you know, I'm just a regular guy here, yet I watched, this is about Quinton.
How people can listen to all the things that he's said over the last four years and then really take him seriously when he starts promising tax cuts and all these kinds of things in the current election.
And I wonder if it's just me or am I you know sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who sees through this.
I know that I'm not, but what is it that he does to convince people that what he's saying is that he believes?
What he does is tell people what they want to hear.
And that works every time.
If you tell people what they want to hear, they immediately settle for it because it meets their expectations.
And he is an expert at doing that, sir.
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And so how come it seems to me that we're more as a society, I think we're more concerned about what's inside of or what's on the outside of a package than what's on the inside.
If it looks good, we think it's great.
And we don't really care about the substance of what it might be.
And I think that that's kind of the thing that bothers me.
If it were a Republican that were doing the same thing or have the same track record, I would think the same thing about him.
Doesn't matter if it's a Democrat or Republican.
Anyway, I just wanted to run that by give it your thought.
Now, I don't know how much of a compliment that is, a good politician, but that's what he is, a good politician.
He has refined it to a new level.
He's a mighty morphin man.
He can be and will be what you want him to be.
And if it requires that he sign welfare bills that he wouldn't have signed in a trillion years otherwise, he signs them.
I mean, we're talking about a man who is president and wants desperately to be president again.
And will do whatever it takes to achieve that.
And I believe he will be re-elected.
Under the category of greatest lies to our children, Jackie submits the following.
I'll love you no matter what.
Usually said, right after you've done something that would blow the love out of the most maternal mother ever seen on the face of the earth, something truly horrible.
They wind it up by saying, I'll love you no matter what.
Well, I was in Europe in Russia while the Republicans had their convention, so I don't know what the media coverage was like.
I just know that last night when I watched NBC, Mr. Brokoff spent the entire 30-minute newscast covering what there was to cover of the Democrats Convention.
And I was wondering if the Republicans got equal treatment.
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No, indeed.
We only get ABC, but there was very little about the Republican Convention on the news.
Really?
Really.
And when we tried to watch the convention itself, we got to see Peter Jennings and the whole cast of ABC a lot more than we got to see any of the politicians.
Well, at least with the Republicans, there was a little bit of the unknown.
I mean, we had just found out who was going to be the vice presidential candidate.
It's not like we don't know who the candidates are for the Democrats, right?
So there was a little tension there.
We got to find out about 15% tax cut that Bob Dole wanted to give.
we're not getting much new from the president though maybe thursday night will change all of that so so far uh...
if the republican convention was boring this one is from a moment in the very end away Well, I understand, but the likes of Ted Coppel thought it boring and left.
From now on, when the child does something wrong, instead of saying, when your dad gets home, we're going to be telling, I guess moms are going to start saying, go ahead, keep it up.
I'm telling Bill.
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Hey, see, it's that sort of thing.
You know how that isn't even worthy of my comment.
And as for Mrs. Clinton there and her little comment, I only got one thing to say to her, and the last gentleman you were talking to was supporting her so well, is it's time to get real and face reality.
Dear Art, the lights flickered here in East San Diego County for a brief time at 11.55 p.m.
Simultaneous with that, the signal from KFMB San Diego, where the transmitters are, they're about 55 miles west of here, dropped to about half strength for five seconds before coming back.
About 30 seconds later, the lights flickered again.
But KFMB was not affected, so something's going on out there.
And I'm getting endless numbers of faxes noting a significant magnetic shift from true north.
Weird.
Check this out.
Police waiting out barricaded man with pet rats, Billings, Montana.
Tear gas and a water cannon failed to drive Robert Dorton from his motel home Tuesday, where he had been barricaded for two days, keeping police from confiscating his pet rats.
Police evacuated the area around the townhouse motel in downtown Billings because Dorton fired several dozen shots from a room that neighbors said has been his home for eight years.
The standoff began, standoff, began Monday after Dorton refused to open his door to an animal control officer who was responding to complaints about the rats.
Tenants of the motel said they had seen two rats the size of cats in Dorton's room.
He was seen kissing one of the rodents and referred to them as my brothers, the neighbors complained.
Firefighters tried unsuccessfully to break into the room with a chainsaw.
Police fired tear gas into the room when the pepper spray had no apparent effect.
Dorton, who police suspect has a gas mask, responded with gunshots.
Officers also fired water into the apartment with a remote-controlled nozzle elevated on a fire truck ladder.
Dorton did not come out.
According to Sergeant Ken Dove, we're kind of doing the Freeman thing here.
For the main reason that the teeth are a little bit, you want to be leery of them.
You can put a piece of wood, hardwood, in their pin or box, whatever you keep them in, and it helps keep their teeth dulled down, sharp enough where they can eat, but dulled down where they do nip you, they won't do a lot of damage.
Yeah, I saw Hillary Clinton's brilliant speech, but regarding your comment about Mr. Clinton, you know, changing all the time, you have to look to the Republicans to find this degree of hypocrisy and lies.
It just so happens that Bill Clinton is a little bit better at it than anybody else.
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But just look at their economic theory.
It's a complete non-sequitur of this Republican renegade Congress.
They're going to cut taxes and stimulate people to work harder, right?
that's what they say and at the same time they say they'll cut taxes and produce more income for the government Well, they're going to cut taxes so everybody will work harder and then they'll get a healthier economy.
Yet at the same time, and in the same breath, they say they want people to spend more time at home with their families.
I mean, if things are going well and there's a lot of money around, eventually that money trickles down to the people at the lower end of the economic scale.
That's just a fact of life.
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It might be true in a canopy in the rainforest.
However, it's not economics.
And as the guy from Kansas City was saying, it's a specious, inane argument, and there's no fact about it in economics.
The entire NDC evening newscast talked about nothing else.
I was out of the country when the Republicans had their convention.
I don't know if they got that kind of generous coverage or not.
I do recall when I was on vacation, there was a New York Times article about Ted Coppel picking up sticks, saying there was no news and leaving.
I don't know what the networks did, and I'm going to rely on you to tell me if they got the same kind of coverage.
The first lady gave a speech Tuesday in which she said she argued with Bob Dole all about It Takes a Village, you know, her book.
And she said, not only does it take a village, but it takes teachers, clergy, business people, and yes, it takes a president to raise children, too.
And Jesse Jackson and Mario Cuomo had their say.
Mr. Bay gave his, the governor of Indiana gave the keynote address.
And they gained a lot of coverage.
So that's going on.
We're talking about that, of course.
Then there are some other very odd things going on.
Let me first tell you, I know there are a lot of stations that join us at this hour West Coast, that we have got a photograph on the webpage you must see.
This is the photograph taken by a lady, I think, a couple, Linda Cabot, her name is, on Long Island during a party that was going on there.
I think it was a political fundraiser of some kind or another.
And I spent the better part of the morning talking with my friends at hard copy, and they tried very hard to get that photograph released for me, but were unable to do so.
And then we found it later in the day on the MSNBC website.
Ta-da!
There it was.
And so Keith Rowland, I'll tell you, it was a real day of trying to get this on.
Keith Rowland got it on for us, and there are links up there that will show you this photograph.
Now, look, number one, I don't think the TWA airliner is in this photograph.
Number two, don't expect it to be definitive because it's not.
What we've got here is somebody who was taking a picture at this fundraiser of some people.
They were pointing the camera toward the right direction on that evening, that fateful evening.
And in the photograph, it appears large, of course, because they have blown it up purposely.
In the photograph, way off in the sky, there was detected this object.
It was the right place, the right time, on that awful night.
And I'm telling you, it is something.
I don't know what.
Is it a missile?
It kind of looks like a missile to me.
It is important evidence.
The FBI certainly thought so.
They confiscated the photographs and the negative.
Apparently one was kept, and that is where this photograph comes from.
It's important.
It's undeniably important, no matter what you think of it.
I mean, here is an obviously anomalous object in the sky seconds before the TWA jetliner blew up.
So take a look at it.
It's now on my website.
The links are there.
Just jump up there and take a look.
How do you get there?
Well, if you've got a browser, if you're on whatever, just go up to my website, www.artbell.com.
www.artbell.com.
Take a look for yourself now.
Another item.
Oh, here's somebody commenting.
Art, I just saw the photo on your website.
It looks like it certainly could be a missile, but it's so big, I'm surprised no one said they heard it also.
Well, again, that's Dale in Port Angeles, Washington.
Dale, it's blown up, of course, as you will see by the represented circle with a line around it there.
It's blown up.
So, of course, it seems unnaturally large, but I don't know what the hell else that could be.
Then, I just have a whole flurry, I mean a flurry of people saying there is a magnetic deviation going on right now from Alaska to the East Coast.
I'm getting facts after facts saying 10, 12, 15 degrees off true north.
This happened almost a year ago.
But now, again, we're getting flooded.
So, if you are fairly sure, I even had a lady went out and bought tonight a second compass.
Very, very interesting.
Why are we getting a magnetic shift?
Anybody contributing, you're welcome to do so.
Then, there is this story.
There's the story of a man with pet rats, rats as big as cats in Missoula, Montana, and he's holed up in a motel.
Now, I could read you this story again, but he's got these pet rats, and apparently they're trying to get to him, and they can't get to him.
He's shooting at them.
The rats as big as cats, and he kisses them.
I mean, there are witnesses in adjacent motel room, see him kissing his rats.
And he's hold up, here's somebody, just for the record art, I used to have as many as 36 pet rats.
And they are very cute, very intelligent pets.
They're nearly as smart as dogs and easily trained.
I've never had one as big as a cat, but the male ones could be pretty big.
That's Derek in Greenfield, Indiana.
So this guy's holed up.
Local authorities there are calling it a kind of a Freeman standoff situation.
The guy with rats as big as cats is not coming out despite tear gas and pepper spray and everything else they've tried.
All right, we'll get to the phones in just a moment.
Those are a few of the things.
Oh, and we're talking about lies that we tell our children.
There's a million of them.
Boy, we tell our children a lot of lies.
If you have any contribution to that category, you're welcome to make two.
A program where we normally don't talk a lot about politics inevitably is going to talk about politics during a political convention and no doubt moving up toward the election itself.
It is inevitable and proper that we do so.
Even so, we will not concentrate on it as the central theme, but simply deal with it when its ugly head arises.
Say, I've got something that, as fight 800, there's something that has been forgotten about, or I've heard nothing about since the night that it actually happened.
If you recall, there was a, I believe it was Air Sea Rescue C-130 that was in the air at the time this happened.
But the first white flash was whatever caused the initial explosion, the impact of a missile, a bomb, exploding fuel tank, main tank, whatever.
The second flash at a lower altitude was the apparent ignition of the main body of the jet fuel, and it would burn and produce about that color in a fireball of that sort.
So I consider that to be an accurate rendering of what was seen, but not to answer the question about what did the ugly deed.
And I think there's significant evidence pointing toward the possibility of some kind of missile.
That's why I'm telling you, you have got to get up and take a look at that photograph.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
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Yeah, this is Deborah from a little town called Nobnoster, Missouri.
Now, what I have seen are demonstrations of a shoulder-fired missile.
In fact, Hard Copy did that during the body of their story, and the missile fires and takes down an airplane.
I wonder if that's what you might have seen.
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Well, I don't know.
I was just watching the news, and they showed it hitting the plane, and they showed people watching it, so I just took it for granted that that was the real thing.
Every time somebody is killed, somebody wants to blame it on the president.
This president is not my favorite person, as you know, but I don't give a lot of weight to those rumors.
I don't think this president is having people killed.
I don't think this president is actively involved or even was in bringing drugs in.
I don't buy into that stuff.
My arguments with the presidents, with the presidents, with this president, is a political one.
And I think that that is the way if Bob Dole is to be successful, very unlikely possibility, in running against this president, it isn't going to be with that kind of material.
I understand that there's a genuine argument in behalf of taking the profit out of it, but I honestly don't believe it would suddenly convert those who are selling drugs and living a life of crime to become saints and burger flippers.
No way.
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Oh, no, there's too much money to be made in dealing drugs.
Well, no, even if they took it out, they're going to find something else.
Ray gave it as from a very trustworthy source, but unverified that it was from Fit Friendly Fire, and a great deal of detail was given, though I didn't write it all down.
You have the information, but he said it did come from an extremely good source, and he doesn't normally give that unless they give it out over the air, unless he trusts the information at least somewhat.
I'll get out my tripod, level it, shoot the sun in the morning.
Let you know.
Also, if I'm still off, I'll check with some Navy friends and have them set their reference stable element to true.
If they're off, I hope no one's doing a live fire exercise.
Robin in San Diego, Art.
If there's a shift in true north, how do pilots adjust for that?
Could that account for so many military planes crashing?
Diane, KGA, Spokane.
Or this, dear art, on the magnetic north deviation, please note that it was brought forth on a shortwave program recently that the sun is in the process of reversing its magnetic polarity.
We're going to be in for quite a ride.
Well, I don't know.
Without being able to reference the content, I also just got a fax from Major Dames, SciTech's Major Dames.
And so I thought I would take this opportunity, Major, since I know you're out there, to invite you to come back and do another program.
Are you busy tomorrow night, Major?
Would you like to come on and do it?
He sent me some information that cannot be made public yet.
But how about a show tomorrow night, Major?
Are you interested?
Sure, that'd be fun to do right in the middle of the Democrats Convention, wouldn't it?
Then, this, dear art, I think it would be extremely ironic if the quote missile photograph end quote was not substantial enough for the FBI to prove or disprove the TWA missile theory, but instead would force the FBI to finally publicly admit to the existence of UFOs, Sean, in Reno.
So that's some of the stuff we're looking at.
And I've got the story on this guy with the rats in Billings.
I really want to hear about this.
It wasn't in Missoula, it was in Billings.
And I want to hear from some people in Billings.
So maybe we'll try and hold a line open.
I will hold the line open in a minute.
As a matter of fact, let me set aside a line for people in Billings.
Call us at area code everybody else hold off, please.
Area code 702-727-1222.
Billings, Montana only.
Everybody else, drop off that line, please, and let people in Billings.
This is a very important story about the man with the rats.
I want to hear about it.
702-727-1222 Economic Survival.
Not so easy these days, no matter where you are in the rainforest canopy, eh?
Running harder to keep even.
No fun.
And you know what?
happens mainly when you're working for somebody else from millings montana tear gas water cannon have failed to drive out robert dorton from his motel home
This is a brand new story where he's been barricaded now for two days, keeping police from confiscating his pet rats.
Police have had to evacuate the area around the townhouse motel in downtown Billings.
Because Dorton fired several shots from a room that neighbors said has been his home for eight years.
Standoff began Monday when Dorton refused to open his door to an animal control officer who was responding to complaints.
Tenants of the motel said they'd seen, get this, folks, two rats the size of cats in Dorton's room.
He was seen kissing one of the rodents and referred to them as, quote, my brothers, end quote.
They're referring to this now as a kind of Freeman thing.
It's the big rat standoff in Billings.
And so I'm holding a line open here for a while for Billings for Montana people in the area who know about this standoff.
I don't know if it's my area or what, but I've heard three calls now, including my own, of people that have seen the same tape on television that I have of this missile blowing this airplane.
The target for this session was the largest pyramid in Egypt.
After three pages of preliminary data, the viewer drew the sketch that is linked below.
In the sketch, there is the obvious drawing of the pyramid.
But the session also revealed some ideas that may be relevant to how the pyramids were constructed.
The session seemed to suggest the builders may have piled up dirt to cover the pyramid as it was being constructed layer upon layer.
In this way, the builders would not have to lift any large rocks.
Rather, they could simply place the blocks on logs or even stone dowels and push the blocks over the dirt and into place on the rising pyramid.
After another layer of stones was placed, the builders could then raise the ground level by piling up more dirt around the pyramid and begin to roll the next layer of stones in place and so forth.
After the pyramid was finished, the builders would then dig it out of the dirt, thereby exposing it.
Note the offset ground levels in the sketch.
The vertical line above the pyramid may represent the lined up logs or dowels on which the stone blocks were placed.
The session did not resolve these points definitively by any means, but the viewer was clearly, quote, on target, end quote, with the pyramid.
The viewer also constructed a timeline and located the time of the target about 3,000 years ago.
As with all other training sessions at the Farsight Institute, the viewer was doing the session totally, quote, blind, end quote.
I mean, well, you're a person in Billings, so you tell me, what do you think about this guy?
Is he being mistreated, or are the authorities responding in a proper way?
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Well, I think they might have, I mean, spraying the water cannon in there and everything a little harsh for a guy with some rats.
It is over now.
I work in an office building about four or five blocks away from there, and you can see where the police used to have the street barricaded, and it's no longer barricaded.
Early this morning, between 8.15 and 8.45, a newscaster on Las Vegas radio station, KJUL, announced between songs that, quote, the National UFO Research Department is seeking witnesses to an event in the southwest that occurred last night that could be described as a battle between people on the ground and a hovering craft.
Yeah, there may be those who say, well, is that supposed to be the 747?
I wouldn't have the slightest idea.
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Well, the reason I was calling is I've been playing with this thing and adjusting the various, the greens and the reds and the hues and the contrast and everything.
Right.
And I've got a very clear image of four wings on this cylinder.
And it looks like they're possibly, I've been trying to discern what would be fins on the end of it, but it looks like, and it also appears to be traveling horizontally across the water.
I quite agree, but it's a little hard to know the angle of the photograph.
In other words, whether it was taken at a proper angle, and the reference is so far off that it's, you know, you really can't depend on what you're seeing there.
It almost looks like the missile is going down instead of up.
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Well, that's exactly what I was getting at.
You can, with some enhancement, you can see that there's appears to be going, there seems to be something similar to a cylinder going in several different directions, but there's the main cylinder, which this flare is at the end of.
I'll call it a flare, I guess.
I've been adjusting for colors, and I can see clearly that there is some orange or yellow tint to that.
Now, I don't know very much about missiles, but something along the line of an Exoset or something like that is coming to mind.
Something that has, now I don't know what I'm talking about with an Exoset, but something that has like a pair of wings on each side of it that go out in sort of a V from the body.
I mean something that appears to be wings up toward the away from the end of the where the flare is.
I'd say about midway into the almost midway into the cylinder.
And then there appears to be quite possibly I can see it looks like at least one fin, which is at a different angle from the other ones from the wings.
Well, I'll tell you, you can drive yourself crazy with that kind of thing.
Can get down to the pixel range, and you can begin to see pictures of our Lord in the middle of it, and all kinds of things if you spend too much time at the pixel level.
But look, I think that the photograph, as it sits, cannot be ignored and obviously is not being since the FBI went and grabbed it up.
So, you know, I don't know what to say about this, folks, except that I thought you should see it.
The photograph is up there now, the link to the photograph on the MSNBC website.
You can get it by going to my website, which is www.artbell.com.
Remember, about 200 people said they saw something rising toward that aircraft.
And this photograph, whatever you think of it, was the right place at the right time at the right angle.
You tell me what it is.
It is not nothing.
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This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
There's no need to speak.
Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
And they're pets, and I'm sure they're very friendly animals, but I wouldn't know that if I were to encounter one, you know, like in a hotel there in Las Vegas.
And it'd probably scare the hell out of me.
And I imagine that's what happened there.
It scared people, I'm sure.
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Well, I think you ought to leave him alone.
You know, I mean, but now there's gunfire and everything.
And then just a comment through you to Charlie Liberal.
I just feel like sometimes the people that follow the Democratic ideals tend to want to shut their children off on their village and become a little bit dependent and government to solve their problems and take care of them.
And I think eventually he wants to start a race war.
And I'd like to quote a New Yorker article that says Farrakhan is a man of visions.
Just weeks before the march, that's the million-man march, he told a congregation of Washington, D.C. Church about the Mother Wheel, a heavily armed spaceship the size of a city, which will rain destruction upon white America and save those who embrace the nation of Islam.
I've got a question, actually, it's kind of a statement.
Have you noticed with the two power outages we've had on the West Coast, the train derailment, and now the downing of the possible mythical TWA, we may have a war, but it's not going to be in a foreign country.
Yeah, you know, that's the worst scenario of them all.
A foreign enemy, that we can handle.
A domestic war, whether it be a race war, whether it be a revolutionary sort of war, the nutball cases out there, terrorists internally, whatever it is, it's the worst scenario.
It will rip this country up faster than anything else I can think of.
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All you need is 30 terrorists.
Yep.
30 terrorists in the United States and the United States fall.
There was a radar signature, and then there, you know, as there always is with this kind of thing, they later said, no, it was just a radar anomaly or an echo or something.
You know, that's what they always say.
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So, I mean, what's happening then is, I mean, is it really possible for a handheld missile to circle an aircraft like that?
Well, I'm not a military munitions expert, but there are some missiles that, as you point out, the second they detect, they pass the target, detonate, try to get a proximity hit.
Then there are other missiles, heat sink seekers, and I presume radar homing missiles as well, that if they miss the target, do have the ability to turn and go back after it.
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Okay.
Because I have some friends who are in the military, and they have some experience with, you know, electronic warfare systems and other types of systems like that.
Right.
And, you know, I've discussed it with them, and they don't, you know, none of them, and me included, can't see a way that a handheld missile like that would be able to even lock on to a target, you know, in that short time because you've got to look at the plane that was, you know, still pretty low to the ground.
Well, do they still have the red and white towers there?
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No, sir.
As I recall, it was been torn down, and they've replaced it now with something else.
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Their claim to fame now is being some sort of secondary or tertiary landing site for the space shuttle in case of something bad happening because it is such a long runway.
I don't know about you, but as a redneck Texan growing up in the 1960s and 1970s, I've always thought that Greg Morris, through his character as Barney on Mission Impossible, and also Michelle Nichols as her role of Lieutenant Uhura on Star Trek, to me, did more to improve race relations than anyone I can think of nearly.
I hope that doesn't sound trite.
And it's kind of silly that through the efforts of such people who have seriously tried to improve race relations that it's been achieved through something of the sort of TV programs.
But if you think about it, back in those days, Barney and Lieutenant Uhura being black people, extremely intelligent and people of great power, I can recall some of the older folks in my family having their jaws hit the floor at the thought of such a thing.
Well, yes, I watched both, and I've been a Trekkie, and I still am.
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Do you recall a little bit of social shock at seeing Barney and Lieutenant Dehura being in positions of such power and being handsome and intelligent and educated and very noble beings?
The Cubans have always been troublemakers up to this kind of thing, financing it at least, training people to do it possibly, certainly with access to the kind of hardware it takes to do the job.
Well, I'm surprised it didn't end quite some time ago, but I can't help but think about that, particularly on that commemorative flight that Cuban refugees made, what was it, back about six months ago?
So anyway, Art, I appreciate the time and you're allowing me to express that thought, and I hope it's food for thought on those who are no doubt wishing for a domestic part of the equation here.
I feel that some of this is orchestrated to bring the U.S. population under total control, and I mean specifically a United Nations effort of some sort.
I may be paranoid, and I think I've talked to you before on this same subject, and this is what I fear, and I think that the elections coming up are going to be a watershed in determining specifically what kind of country this is.
You know, there's a lot of talk shows, and they sit, and for whatever number of hours they're on the air, they just sort of push buttons and let people make little speeches, and they don't even sit there and really listen to what the person is saying.
You actually have to listen to the people that you put on the air.
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Oh, yeah.
I get the vision of you actually sitting there paying attention, like the guy who sits there on the Wayne's World show where he was getting slapped around by Wayne and his buddy Garth and didn't even realize it on the air.
It's so repetitive and so predictable that I guess I'm getting it's almost like an immunity, you know, when you get hit with something so many times, you finally start getting immune to it.
It's just sort of like la da da da da.
You guys, you guys, you cruel guys, you child killers, blah, blah, blah.
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That was getting kind of repugnant to me.
The idea that I would that I would ever allow my grandparents or my children or anybody to suffer because of what I believed, it just made me feel like he was calling me dirt or other bad words.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah.
Another thing on the TWA, there's a picture of the rocket.
I haven't seen the picture or missile going up from the water.
Has anybody looked at any pictures of the water to see what was down there?
Well, the two things I wanted to talk about near and dear to my heart are both involved personal liberty are firearms and narcotics drugs.
Okay.
I am not a user of narcotics, never have, never will.
Because they are illegal, I do arrest those who use them, deal in them, transport the whole nine yards.
But I'm very much like Harry Brown on this subject.
I believe that because of personal liberty and government just does not work on this subject, I think that, well, I would say legalization would probably be the only real safe way to end the quote-unquote war on drugs and actually kind of declare victory.
Well, I guess you wouldn't have to make any more arrests.
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No, not on that, you know, not on that subject.
I would say that, and it would, I think, believe I believe it would bring down drug use, actually, because of the two most commonly used drugs, you know, well, not counting caffeine, you know, being nicotine and alcohol, society pressure has brought down the use of those, not any laws about them.
You know, I have come to the point in this argument of the legalization of drugs where I would like to see a test, maybe one state in these U.S. of A, in these combined states, where we would legalize drugs and watch and see what happens.
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Oh, I would like to see it too.
You know, I've seen people's rap sheets, of course, and I saw a man who had three counts of attempted murder where he had tried to, you know, he'd actually shot people in the back.
He spent 18 months in jail for those total.
He had one count of possession of marijuana, spent 22 months in jail.
When you encounter a teenager or a young person, fairly young person, and they've got a joint or a small amount of marijuana, what do you do?
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Well, we have a zero tolerance.
So I well, I have limited authority over children who are not members of my community.
So because I work on an Indian reservation, if they are non-members, non-tribal members, I will arrest them or detain them, administratively detain them, until a sheriff will get down there.
And then it's up to the sheriff, whatever he's going to do.
Oh, I believe anybody should be able to own whatever they wish.
I have no compunctions at all about that.
I think that you have not only a right, but an obligation to protect yourself.
You were saying that in urban areas it's you know cops can get there quicker, but I had a friend who she called me after she called the Seattle police with a 911 disconnect and I got there 30 minutes before the Seattle police.
Well, okay, but again, you you're enforcing on a reservation, right?
In downtown Seattle, that might not be true.
No, no, no, it's uh but if you you know, if you live out in the country, I mean, you're living with certain realities, and there's drive time, um, and the density of patrol is not that great.
And so if you want to if you want protection, you better protect yourself.
Um oh, absolutely.
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You know, the police were not designed as a primary protective force.
They were designed to supplement, you know, people's own protection of themselves.
I I wouldn't want my grandmother or mother to have to wait, you know, even two minutes on somebody trying to get there to them.
I'd expect them to be able to defend themselves instantly if some crazy guy was trying to bust through their windows or whatnot.
And as far as this argument of the militia goes, the National Guard was federalized, I believe, in the 60s or 50s, which means that's no longer a local force.
I find it strange that the media in the very beginning interviewed zillions of people who claimed they saw a missile, and then all of a sudden all of that just disappeared.
Speaking of credibility, I just saw on one of the tabloids this morning, I was in a store and they had a picture on the front page of the Martian wife forms, and it looked like a blown-up picture of some sort of insect, a fly or something.
And at the bottom of the front page, they had the face, the Martian, the face on Mars.
And I just bought Mark Carlado's book last week, as a matter of fact.
You know, we have individuals that call all the time and say, hey, we've got this minority, if you will, living in our neighborhood doing what this gentleman does for a living of collecting the narcotics, putting people away, but they're wanting us to be there all the time.
And that's why I tell people, look, if somebody is breaking through your window or a door, and you pick up the phone and you call 911, by the time you have dialed and begun to report your location name, if you can even get it all out, how long is it going to take that person to get from the broken window or door to you?
Versus the response time after the radio call to get the patrol car to the scene of the break-in.
I don't know do you have the time when you were over on your vacation to meet any fellow hams or take any USL cards with you if that's what you do in exchange?
It is possible when you're on a ship, which is out at sea, you know, away from land, to discern through the auspices of a scanner the ship's operating frequencies.
The officers on the ship have one set of UHF radios, and the crew, which mans the lifeboats and so forth and so on, has a VHF group of frequencies that they use.
And it is possible to discern these frequencies with a scanner and then program them into a handheld.
And an individual, not that I would ever do anything like this, of course, an individual can have a great deal of fun talking to the officers and crew of a cruise ship.
Again, emphasizing that I, of course, would never do anything like this.
Now, wait a minute, you're starting to jump all around here.
What kind of economy do you want?
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I mean, what exactly do you want?
I want a decent wage for the middle class, where they don't have, both the husband and wife have to work, where they have less and less, where they have to run harder to stay in the same place, where the rich, where we can see where all the wealth is going, it's going to the top few percent, 5%.
That's just not right.
They not only take the money, but they take the jobs out of the country, too.