Richard C. Hoagland argues Europa’s potential for extraterrestrial life stems from his 1980 Star in the Sky article, later adopted by Arthur C. Clarke in 2010. He accuses NASA-affiliated figures of plagiarism and speculates about deliberate website crashes—like Kim Cia’s planetarymystery.com—via embedded data viruses. The July 29 Wiltshire crop circle, confirmed by an RAF pilot, defies "Doug and Dave" hoaxes, showcasing hyperdimensional geometry linked to Dr. Bruce DePalma’s suppressed 1960s–70s grass-growth experiments under spinning aluminum disks. Warnings from Edwin Land and Dr. Edgerton allegedly stifled research, hinting at "black projects" protecting paradigms. Hoagland’s "E.T.s" (off-world humans) theory suggests humanity’s reconnection with lost solar relatives, while enterprisemission.com will soon share replicable experiments to bypass suppression and challenge mainstream science. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, as you may know, in fact, I think you do know, this was not Stephen's idea, but in fact my idea, 16 years ago, and became the basis for Arthur Clarke's sequel to 2001, 2010.
And in the novel version of his sequel, Arthur very graciously and kindly, as he always does, gave appropriate credit for the idea and where it first appeared, which was when I was contributing editor of Star in the Sky magazine and wrote a very elaborate and very detailed analysis and published it in 1980 to a great deal of derision by most of NASA.
And we have hosted that for the last several months on our website, including the color Voyager imagery that came back, which kind of prompted my thought processes.
And so I find it really remarkable that in the last couple weeks, someone in the NASA employee, you know, Professor Cornell, who is under contract to the agency, would attempt to, frankly, nakedly plagiarize someone else's work.
And we'll get into why this is far more than just a kind of a petty tip between two.
Precisely, and we will get into later in the morning how that all plays out, what the timelines are, what we should be looking for, and what is presaging events to come.
I have seen, we've had a lot of problem art getting onto our own website.
In fact, your website and our website through ZNET coming in through our system here has been absolutely blocked for the last week since I appeared on your show.
Having said that, the reason I brought it up is because it is the most remarkable thing that just about anybody has ever seen.
Now, tonight, I've got a new photograph of a new crop circle, not yet on the webpage, because I don't have the imagery.
It's at Wilshire, England, and it just occurred July 29th.
It is three Julia sets combined with 194 circles.
It is the doggaundest thing.
It's a mile long.
It's the doggauntest thing you have ever seen in your life.
And I just wanted to ask you, generally, these things, Richard, obviously are not the work, whatever they are, they're not the work of a couple of guys with a Borton Planck, you know, whoever.
These are something, and they're increasing now, and they're really something, Richard.
What we're doing on the website is we have now expanded our site and we have the ship enterprise divided into a series of sections, ranging from the conference area to the bridge to the communications section to the ship's library to the physics laboratory to the planetary laboratory.
And we're going to be opening up in the next couple, three days three two-way interactive communications divisions of Enterprise.
Namely the conference area, which will be for general discussion, the bridge, which will be for political and email and a way to affect this government to go back, for instance, to Mars this year and to verify what is there with the three missions that are leaving for Mars this fall.
And then the physics lab will be the area where we will be posting the mathematics, the geometry, the papers, and the contributions from researchers and experimenters who are at this very moment verifying this changing physics I keep talking about.
And of course, this latest in the series of new circles or new elegant glyphs is only testimony that somebody is attempting very gently and elegantly to let us know what's going on.
And the fact that it's specifically aimed at the Mendelbroth set, it's specifically denoting the boundary between finite and infinite diversity.
And that's, of course, the centerpiece of this new slash old physics that we've talked about for an age.
Carrie has been tearing out her hair and consulting with every expert that we have, and no one between Sprint and our own server and ZNET can figure out what in the world could be going on.
I hear you.
But your site and our site freeze when we try to get in.
And nothing else is affected.
The graphics are slow because we're not dealing with major cable modem capabilities yet.
But I have noticed a remarkable problem in the last week.
Well, the actual materials people like Levengood unequivocally have demonstrated that the difference between a crop in a circle which has been geometrically advantaged, if I can use that term, and one that has not is that there is a physical change in the plant.
There are burst nodes indicating that some kind of side effect, some kind of energy release in the plant, has literally cooked the organism.
That's correct.
And it's like putting it in a microwave.
And there are people who think that this is being done by the government, which I think is a bunch of balderdash.
Anytime the government would be as creative as this, you would definitely see it in other areas, and you don't.
The EM effects, the electromagnetic effects, I believe in terms of the physics that we're looking at, are side effects.
They're not primary.
And that means we have to get over into Tom Bearden's area and his whole scalar discussions, which really is what hyperdimensional physics is.
You know, when I use the term hyperdimensional physics, people stress their heads and say, what in the world is Oglin talking about?
Well, some are more familiar if I use the term scalar electromagnetic.
Because it turns out that the electromagnetic spectrum that we deal with is only half of the true electromagnetic spectrum which exists and which was modeled by people like Clerk Maxwell, James Clerk Maxwell, about 100 years ago and people that came after him, physicists who are cited very ably by people like Bearden.
We're going to be posting in the physics lab of Enterprise experiments and papers and actual video clips from people who have done a remarkable job of documenting this physics without in many cases knowing what they were documenting.
And one of the most remarkable to me is, well, it came to me about three or four years ago from the work of Dr. Bruce DePalma, a name that I'm sure we have discussed on your show from time to time.
Bruce is the brother of the famous Hollywood director Brian DePalma, which is kind of interesting.
I found that out a couple years ago and was quite intrigued because creativity definitely does run in the family.
Except Bruce's is in physics, and Brian's, of course, is in the creative arts and sciences of the National Academy, you know, that gives out the Academy Award.
What Bruce was doing many years ago was studying all different facets of rotation, massive spinning systems.
And this was, you know, decades before we met.
This was back in the 1960s and 70s, long before I was even beginning to think in these directions, certainly long before I could influence him to do any experiments.
And what I got from one of his presentations was a piece of videotape of a lecture, of a seminar, where he had placed living organisms, in this case ordinary lawn grass, in a shielded metal dish with nutrients.
Anyway, I get to move from the computer to the other phone because while you were doing commercials, I am trying to send, but you sent me to Keith so that we can get it up tonight.
Anyway, so about 20 years ago, Bruce DePalma, as part of a very complex series of rotating machinery experiments, I mean massive disks spinning in high speed, gyroscopes magnetized and unmagnetized and all that, he got very intrigued with the concept of gravity.
Because as you know if you watch my UN presentation, in one of his spinning systems, both with a steel ball and then a more sophisticated system with dropping a gyroscope in a vacuum container, he found that when you spin a system and throw it in a gravitational field, it travels differently than if you were not spinning it.
And there's absolutely nothing in Newtonian mechanics which in any way, shape, or form predicts this.
And he tried to get various people at Harvard and MIT to take a look at this, and everyone basically would not look.
It's the classic example of the Galilean experience where the Cardinals would not look through the telescope at Jupiter and its moons.
Anyway, and some of the people who would not look or who took him aside and said, you know, Bruce, you really want to not do this.
You want to be doing something that will make you money and keep you happy were people like Edwin Land, who Bruce worked for, who is now no longer with us, the founder and chief executive officer of the Polaroid Land Camera.
Chernobyl.
Sure.
And a gentleman named Edgerton.
Dr. Edgerton was a very famous physicist at MIT, went on to found a company called EGNG, Edgerton, Germeshausen, and Greer, which is a vast conglomerate in the optics and high-tech area, which, among other things, for a number of years, had the sole source contract to the Atomic Energy Commission to photograph all of the United States nuclear tests.
That's where their name first surfaced at the general level.
Well, I knew EG ⁇ G people.
In fact, one of my best friends was the photographic expert at EG ⁇ G, someone who is very quietly now helping us with our analysis of the moon images.
And at some point, we may bring him forward and have him do something in public.
But I was fascinated that two people who were giants of industry and science in this country both said to the young Dr. De Palma, you really don't want to be poking into and doing these experiments and trying to get anybody to pay attention.
And when I talk about a conspiracy to lead us in the wrong direction, Art, it's that kind of repeated encounter with people who don't seem to want to know or who know something and don't want their young proteges to know or pursue it.
Well, see, this was in the nature, and because I know Bruce, and we've had many, many conversations, I'm not really telling you the tales out of school here because he has left the United States.
Bruce Palmer is no longer on American soil.
He does not feel safe here.
He has gone halfway around the world, and I'm in touch with him from time to time.
And I think he hears your show by means of tape or something.
Anyway, according to Bruce, these two men who had taken him under their wing were basically telling him in the kind of demeanor of a vuncular uncle as someone they felt something for and cared about and were trying to gently steer from having a very hard time to protect.
Not a threat.
It was more like, you know, you got to wake up and smell which way the coffee is bowling off the stove and decide what you really want to do and if you want to make enemies or you want to quietly find a niche where you don't rock the boat.
Now, he also tried to get someone named John Wheeler interested in these experiments because, of course, Wheeler Came to fame at Princeton as the inventor of the term black hole.
Physicist Wheeler has written a number of books, and more papers than you can shake a stick at, relating the geometry of space-time and the properties of gravity.
And, of course, Bruce thought in his naivete in those days that conducting experiments which absolutely and resoundingly demonstrate that gravity is not acting the way it should, according to every classical or relativistic experiment that we read about or conduct,
might be of interest to people who had some clout in the science field, and instead he was gently taken aside and said, Bruce, you really don't want to be asking these questions.
Well, if you extend this model a little further and you get the idea that maybe these guys knew that what Bruce was doing was right, and that there was an in-crowd that knew he was right, it means that the physics that all high school kids grow up learning and all grad students grow up learning at the college level, the university level, is wrong.
It just doesn't work.
And you only learn this when you go to get a job in the military-industrial complex and start working on how to fling missiles at other countries so you can kill millions of people.
And then you find out, my God, if you fling missiles under Newtonian or relativistic models, they will not land where you fling them.
Now, let me put together, you know, I'm going to hop around here for a couple of seconds.
Well, but for the people in our audience who may not have come up this curve like you and I have, sure, and like me who used to think that I was dealing with dumbness and stupidity, and now think that we're dealing with anything but dumbness and stupidity, all right, it requires this kind of backstory to get them to see that when they see something on CNN,
when they see the FBI on a witch hunt on a poor dumb bubba, all right, who happens to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and to become a scapegoat, they don't quite leap where everybody wants them to leap, but they reserve judgment and demand to see real evidence.
Because we live in a culture, art, where so much is manipulated for an objective.
And in the sciences, the nice thing is the universe will tell you the truth if you simply do your own homework.
If you don't listen to the authority figures, if you go and do it yourself.
Now, up until now, if you did all that, it didn't make a difference.
What Bruce's experience showed was that even at the highest level, when you find something that should automatically give you a Nobel Prize, if the powers that be don't want the general public and the general science community that isn't involved in flinging missiles at the Soviet Union to know that the equations relating to gravity are not what they're supposed to be,
that there's some other physics in operation, then they will gently make it very difficult for you to get a job and make a living and conduct science so that you ultimately have to leave the country and go where maybe you can operate more freely.
Isn't one good example of that, the tethered satellite?
I saw a lot of after-reports about the tethered satellite that I thought, you know, I'm not a scientist, Richard, but I thought that it verified a hell of a lot of what you said.
We are going to be collecting all those, many of them from NASA's official web pages, and posting them in the physics section of Enterprise.
That's why I've been working very hard since we came back from Europe to organize the web, because the new part of the equation, which we have not had before, which gives us a fighting chance to actually do something for the so-called common man and woman, who are as uncommon as all get out, if the truth be known, is the web, is the internet, is this electronic leveling mechanism that if Bucky Fuller were with us, he would call the great equalizer.
And the fact that we're being impeded on the web, you know, and I'm being very careful in picking my words here, is only to me an indication of how pivotally important and crucial it is.
And I will make you a bet.
I will make you a bet that tomorrow morning when we log on to the web, all our problems have gone away.
Because you see, if they haven't gone away, we are going to ratchet up the number of people looking.
And these things can be traced.
Viruses that are imprinted on data packets to make things look as if they're much bigger, so the system simply crashes because it thinks it's being overloaded, those things are not invisible.
They're not stealthy.
They leave fingerprints.
And we will find the fingerprints.
And of course, there are people we're talking to in the media who would love for us to come up with a smoking gun that somebody considers what we're doing and saying and experimenting with important enough to interfere with.
So I would imagine, Art, that after this conversation, our problems may, in fact, just magically, like all little gremlins, go away.
Anyway, so Bruce was experimenting with massive spinning systems, and he found that gravity did not appear to be what it was cracked up to be.
It was more interesting.
And he tried to get Flam, and he tried to get Edgerton and Some other people like Wheeler to pay attention, and the two former gentlemen said, Bruce, you really would rather be growing begonias than looking at that, which should have been a dead giveaway to him, but he was dumb and persistent, and I guess he was a Taurus and he just persisted with the experiments.
It got to the point where he started thinking the unthinkable, which is, well, let's say, if gravity is not operating the way I've been told, a la all the textbook, from Newton Law, and plants grow up, and we're told that plants grow up because they're reaching for sunlight,
they're phototropic, is it not possible, I'm kind of recapitulating what went on in Bruce's mind, he said to himself, that maybe plants are operating on a gravity vector, on a gravity principle.
This was before space flight, before you could actually put tomato seeds and other things in the shuttle, and high school kids could watch them grow for weeks on an end.
So what he did is he set up a couple of closed rooms where all the ambient light was carefully monitored so that it came from all directions.
So there was no single source of illumination.
So the plant wouldn't be able to find where the sun was.
And then he put, for some reason, he decided because in some of his experiments he had gotten a very strange gravity effect in rotating systems, he decided to have two control plant growing experiments that he picked as a plant, the most readily abundant plant you can find, which is lawn grass.
Well, this is very important because in the photographs that were going to post on the web in the physics section of Enterprise, he had photographs of long drafts growing over a turntable on one of these old record changers, spinning at 70 RPM.
Well, the connecting glue here is that Bruce DePalma conducted the first hyperdimensional experiments, which were a clue to me that biology is affected by rotating systems.
And I have the visual proof that's 20 years before we posited the theory.
Well, obviously, the effect of rotating at 78 RPM a very thin aluminum disk on a record changer is minimal.
If you want to really affect space-time, bend space, affect gravity, or affect actually the constants, there are much more deliberate and selective ways of doing it with a lot of high-tech gear that we don't yet possess.
But in theory, the extrapolation between Bruce's simple rotating system, so of course what we're going to do on the web, Art, is we're going to get high school kids and grammar school kids all over the country growing lawn grass over rotating systems and taking pictures and sending us their pictures and we'll post them and doing other more elegant experiments like what does a rotating system do to an ant colony versus a non-rotating system.
You see what we can begin to flood the market with?
Interesting, innovative new science that cannot be suppressed?
Well you see there's lots of other things that we're going to be posting that we're going to be putting on from major laboratory experiments that are absolutely confounding and wondrously perplexing that are just being ignored.
Well the key is to get them all over the world and the web gives us that because you see if we're right, if Bruce was right, there should be latitude dependence.
Grass grown at 19.5, are you listening?
You guys in Hawaii should grow differently over a rotating system than grass grown in New York at 40.868.
I mean, this is going to be a learning experience for all of us because some of this we can predict, and some of it is going to be literally the most extraordinary science because it's going to be stepping into the unknown.
That's why we're calling this enterprise art.
It is the heart and soul of what my dear friend Gene Roddenberry had in mind.
As you know, you asked me many times before you went to Europe, which is about where I'm headed, Scandinavia and Russia and so forth, asked me to have Graham Hancock on.
I did so twice with incredible Results.
And I would like you when we come back from the break to discuss a little bit about what you think Graham's work and your work have in common or complement each other.
Now, he talked extensively about the monuments of Earth.
Yeah.
And to some degree, about the monuments of Mars.
And it does seem to me, Richard, there is an undeniable connection.
And that undeniably all of this had to be done by somebody not of Earth, or at least not with technology that we presently have.
Well, remember the model that we've been talking about now for months and months, which is this dysfunctional family model, which is that the human race is a lot more diverse and interesting with a much more interesting heritage, a richer heritage, than the last 6,000 years.
And that we're kind of like the poor cousin.
We're reconnecting with folks who are related, who are family, who simply hang their hat on a different piece of real estate tonight than planet Earth.
And that there are people in this government and other governments who have known this for a long time and for whatever reason have taken it upon themselves to keep the rest of us from figuring this out.
Yeah, the idea here is that we will have a series of replications of this work.
It's any good science.
It must be replicated.
And in this case, you know, the replication can be done by a wide variety of people because a lot of these experiments are not the kind that you need a couple of billion dollars in ten years of your spare time.
You can do them, you know, with old record changers and lawn drafts.
When do you think that they Brilliant idea for Richard.
As a homeschooling parent, I'm very eager to teach my children real science based on honest inquiry, unbiased notions, and research not profit motivated.
And so, when do you think you might have some of these suggested experiments at your webpage?
We have just hired A helmsman for Enterprise here in New York who is going to be coordinating the discussions.
And we're announcing tonight that in the next few days we will have up at www.enterprisemission.com, and you can reach us directly or through your site art.
We will have three sections of Enterprise up and running in the sense of two-way email, where if you email us, you will eventually see it posted as part of a continuing discussion.
We're going to be uploading papers, you know, recipes in terms of a prescription for how to carry out, for instance, the lawngrass experiment.
I will have to put up the actual images to show the before and after and the rotating and the non-rotating.
But it's this kind of simple stuff that can be replicated by kids with Akudas to either high school physics gear for the more complicated things or really simple things.
I mean, you could get, even at a, you know, eighth or ninth grade level, with the help of mom and dad, a closed room, like a bathroom or a bedroom, where you can seal the windows and you have uniform lighting.
And you put the, you know, you have the same humidity and you put the grass in a one, you know how you used to get these Mrs. Smith pies with a little aluminum plate pie tins?
And again, the whole point of this, for the audience joining us, is that when you perform this experiment, you will find that you have found something that does not fit into the present scheme of known physics.