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July 22, 1996 - Art Bell

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Art Bell’s July 1996 episode dissects TWA Flight 800’s crash, questioning conflicting reports—CNN’s initial "explosive device" claim later denied—while callers propose terrorism, military mishaps, or insurance fraud. Debris tests reveal bismuth-magnesium-zinc alloys with ion emissions 65x higher than normal, defying known science; Richard Hoagland hints at diamagnetic anomalies. Meanwhile, listeners share eerie life lessons: near-death encounters, psychic harm, and Manson’s alleged pre-crime guitar recordings. Bell’s skepticism clashes with fringe theories, yet the episode lingers on unexplained phenomena—from missing black boxes to precognition—undermining official narratives while sparking paranoia about hidden truths in aviation, science, and media. [Automatically generated summary]
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robert m bowman

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skip farmbach

00:47

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dr j timothy green

00:27

john b wells

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Duke's Concerns 00:15:01
unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell somewhere in Thai.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from July 22nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, across all these many time zones, mostly morning, I suppose.
		Though in the West, from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands, where it's still early evening, we zoom all the way across this nation to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
		Good morning, St. Thomas.
unidentified		Down into South America, north for the pole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		I'm Mart Bells.
		Good to be with you.
		In fact, great to be with you.
		Here comes yet another week of talk radio and the unexpected.
		Always the unexpected.
		All right.
		CNN reported at 9 o'clock on news night that preliminary tests indicate there was an explosive device on board TWA Flight 800.
		They said it is not conclusive.
		They said it was detected near on a wing piece near the baggage compartment.
		Now here's where it begins to get a little interesting.
		Later reports in the last hour or so have the NTSB denying that report.
		Now, either it's true or it's not true.
		Did they or did this is not I mean detection of explosive residue on a piece of the airplane has either been done or not done.
		Why is this controversial?
		With all we don't know about this whole mystery, this possible crime, why is it that we have to be unsure about the results of the testing?
		Can anybody explain that to me?
		Now, I think it was a bomb.
		I've always thought so since the beginning, as you know.
		Or possibly a missile.
		I would say bomb, biggest probability, missile, second probability, structural failure or engine failure or something.
		Catastrophic third and very slim possibility.
		So I am fairly convinced that this is some sort of terrorism.
		Now, there was a day that this question never, ever would have been asked.
		But I will ask it.
		Assuming that this turns out to be a terrorist act, assuming that they do finally determine that there was an explosive on the airplane, or that it was downed with a missile.
		One of the two.
		Do you think it's more likely foreign or domestic terror?
		And there was a day in America where even to ask such a question about Americans would be heresy.
		But of course, that day is long now, I'm sorry to say, gone.
		And it is a reasonable question.
		Which would you think more likely, domestic or foreign terrorism?
		I've not heard anybody really ask that, and maybe that's because there has not yet until this moment been this kind of a report from CNN.
		But that is what occurred to me.
		Along with the same thing I thought last week.
		Why are people killing for nothing?
		I'll keep saying this until I turn blue in the face.
		Put yourself in the position of a terrorist.
		You hate the United States, whether you're foreign or domestic.
		You hate our government.
		You think our government is oppressive.
		They killed people at Waco.
		You're a foreign person who hates the U.S. for some kind of intervention that we have done.
		We are the devils.
unidentified		You know, I won't go through the whole litany.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Either way, if you fire a missile, put a bomb on an airplane, kill a lot of innocent people without claiming credit beforehand, so the authorities full well know what you have done without claiming credit, what have you done?
unidentified		Nothing.
unidentified		Nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, hard as it is to understand terrorism at any level, and certainly you never condone it, at least when there is a claim of responsibility and it's the so-and-so third Friday organization from some country or even here in the U.S., there is a reason for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Release the 17, the Kuwait 17.
unidentified		Remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get out of Bosnia.
unidentified		Withdraw the federal jack-booted blah, blah, blah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, there would be some sort of something.
		But why kill for no reason?
		Why kill innocent people with no apparent motive?
		I can't, I just, I can't put that together in my mind.
		To me, that becomes quickly part of what I call the quickening.
		Bob Dole, 73 years old, for about less than an hour now.
		His birthday is today.
		And his report, his health report is good.
unidentified		Blood pressure is low.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cholesterol is low and so forth.
		Now, they came out with a survey that said four out of ten Americans over 65 years of age say they are worried about that.
		That Dole is 73.
		That it would be an obstacle to his being an effective president.
unidentified		I thought about that.
unidentified		Four out of ten Americans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, why not report a poll that says six out of ten Americans over 65 say they're not worried about Bob Dole's age?
		Now, here is a case where I really do question the validity of a poll.
		Wouldn't you normally report the majority of a poll's opinion as opposed to the minority of a poll's opinion?
		Now, maybe he is too old.
		I don't know.
		But if the fact is, six out of ten Americans over 65 say they're not worried, then that would be the thing to report.
		But no, the press goes after the four out of ten think, well, there might be a problem here.
		They interviewed Sam Nunn on a Meet the Press.
		Was it Meet the Press?
		Yes.
		And they asked him, might he switch parties and join with Bob Dole?
		And there was a catch, a moment, a flash of a second, whereas Sam Nunn, you could see that the door was not open, but the door was ajar.
		Now, you had to watch very carefully, and it was just, you know, a flash of a second.
		But for a second there, there was a catch.
		I don't know.
		Those of you who saw it know what I mean.
unidentified		Maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those who did not would not.
		You know, I had a kind of a feeling that Sam Nunn might be open to such a possibility.
		He's roundly criticized regularly by Democrats and Republicans alike.
		Third party, if our current two major parties continue on their present course, how many of you would join enthusiastically a third party?
		In my opinion, Bob Dole and Bill Clinton are both not going to tell us the truth.
		The truth about Social Security, where it's headed, the truth about the interest on our national debt.
		Both of them are not going to touch either one of these subjects.
		And I notice once again, with Bill Clinton out campaigning, he has once again dredged up welfare as an issue.
		He always does that.
		Whenever Bill Clinton gets hot under the collar from a campaign point of view, he dredges up and talks about welfare.
		By the way, back to the TWA 800 business.
		They have lost.
		This is very interesting.
		They have lost the black box transponder signals.
		Now, there were brand new batteries in the black boxes, so two of them, generally.
		And actually, it was pinging.
		It's to be picked up, I believe, by sonar, and there was a ping issued, and they had it originally right after the crash.
		Now it's gone.
		They may not need it to determine this was an act of terror at any rate.
		By the way, CNBC has just reported that 8,000 people in Japan, 8,000, have come down with E. coli poisoning.
		That's very serious.
		8,000 people, five dead so far in the present E. coli outbreak in Japan.
		And they've got trucks going through the street with loudspeakers warning people about it.
		Oh, one more item.
		On the I really like Sam Nunn, I guess you know.
		I've always liked Sam Nunn.
		And they asked him a question that I thought I would ask you.
		God, it's a good question.
		Just sort of a good, general, perhaps insightful, fun question.
		And that is the following.
		What is it that you now know about life that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
		Isn't that an interesting question?
		And I wonder how you would answer it.
		What is it that you now know about life that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
		And I've been considering my answer ever since I saw the interview the other day.
		All right, look, what we're going to do basically is open lines.
		Tomorrow night, Vincent Bugliosi, I think I'll try to get it right by tomorrow night, Bugliosi.
		Bugliosi.
		The G is silent.
		There you go.
		Bugliosi.
		Vincent Bugliosi.
		So we'll get it.
		But he will be here tomorrow night.
		And he has recently written a book about the O.J. Simpson trial.
		I believes he could have been convicted.
		It is number one on the bestseller list right now.
		And we'll talk to him about that.
		And he promised to talk to me about Charlie Manson as well, something that I've been interested in for a very long time.
		A swarm of earthquakes in Hawaii related to volcanic action apparently there.
		We'll have to see what comes of that, if anything.
		There has been a 7.0 earthquake, very strong, as a matter of fact, 7.0, near the coast of Indonesia.
		Just thought I would note that one for you.
		And Charlie Duke, 10th Amendment, Charlie Duke senator from Colorado, is now investigating the strange and bizarre State Senator Charles Duke.
		A skeptic when he first heard about the goings-on at Steve Lee's Black Forest home, is no more a skeptic.
		He now agrees something is amiss.
		Lee, 37, a former trucker, says most officials have ignored him when he complained his home is plagued with voices and odd smells.
		His van and truck polluted with chemicals.
		And armed people are entering a neighbor's doghouse.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		He says the problem is biological and laser weapons testing carried out by the federal government.
		There are things happening that defy explanation about his house, according to Duke.
		He has asked the FBI to investigate.
		He says, I went over there with a lot of skepticism.
		The GOP legislator was persuaded after he took some photos, get this now, inside Lee's home, even though he didn't see or hear anything unusual at the time, but was surprised when guess what?
		One picture shows what appears to be a light beam, he said.
		Another one has cloud-like images of what is clearly a dog and then a human face.
		Now, this is Charlie Duke.
		He said, it's really bizarre.
		I was shocked.
		I'm not a believer yet, but certainly there is something going on there.
		I don't believe in ghosts, and neither does Mr. Lee.
		He's just trying to get someone to listen to him.
		So I guess Senator Duke is indeed listening.
unidentified		Interesting, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, these are going to be, it's going to be open lines.
		Oh, two other little items.
		One, Linda Howe and myself, covertly, because of the very nature of the tests that were performed.
		As a matter of fact, there are only about three or four locations capable of doing the kind of testing we did, split the cost, Linda and I split the cost, of doing the testing on arts parts.
Best Question Ever Heard 00:10:06
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's some very serious testing.
		And she had those results on Dreamland yesterday.
		And after the midnight hour, or in the next hour, I will repeat that segment for you.
		I think you'll find it more than just a little interesting.
unidentified		I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, the tests were conducted at the Carnegie Institute in Washington, D.C. All right.
		Now, once again, I want to ask this question.
		I thought this is one of the best questions I've ever heard.
		And it was asked of Sam Nunn Sunday.
		What is it that you now know about life that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
		And I will give one answer.
		I wish I had known what I now know about women, the nature of women.
		Now, that's not to say that I know a lot now, because I don't.
		In fact, the more one learns, the more one realizes one doesn't know about the gentler sex and never will.
		However, there is increased amounts of wisdom that a man who is receptive to it can begin to assimilate.
		And had I had that information then, life would have been a lot easier for me.
unidentified		Let me put it that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, it's a grand question, and I think I might have time for somebody before we take a break at the bottom of the hour.
		First-time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Is this Art Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and you are my first caller for the week.
unidentified		Fantastic.
		I'm delighted to get through.
		I enjoy your show tremendously.
		I'm calling.
		This is Anthony from San Diego, California.
		And Art, I have a question that I think you might know the answer to or some of your listeners.
		And the question is, about 15 years ago, I had heard about a book.
		And the name of the book was called, We Never Went to the Moon.
		I saw it on PM Magazine, which was, it's a magazine-type show.
		I don't believe the premise for a second.
		I never read the book, but I was wondering if you were familiar with it and whether or not any of your listeners may be the author.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we never went to the moon.
unidentified		We never went to the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, the whole thing was done out here in the desert.
unidentified		Was it done out in Parump?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		far from where I am.
unidentified		Well, you know, I never, uh, I saw the guy he interviewed.
		I, it, Have you ever heard of the title by the way?
		He has.
		I wasn't sure whether or not the author was anyway connected with the space program or whether he was just a Hollywood.
		A Hollywood guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		He was.
		hollywood and uh...
		did he make the circuit of the country talk radio wasn't that big fifty one Well, that's really true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you've got to remember back to the final Apollo mission.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where at the end where they ran the credits, you had to watch very carefully at the end where they ran the credits because the whole area out here near Perump was mentioned.
		Yeah, sure.
		This is where it occurred, sir.
		We never went to the moon.
		Never, never, never.
		Only in our minds.
		Legends in space in our own minds.
		I'm Art Bell.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		Art Bell's In Time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from July 22nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		CNN reporting that indeed they have detected chemical traces indicating there was an explosive device aboard TWA Flight 800.
		Later reports are saying, no, it's not true.
		Now, I expect mystery and a lack of understanding about what has occurred on the part of the terrorists.
		But you'd think that the media and our own government could get it together when it comes to something as serious as this.
		Either it was or it was not.
		I have a feeling it was.
		Art, you overlook the best reason for terrorism.
		Terrorism to create terror.
		Whenever a terrorist group claims responsibility for an act, 99% of all the people in the country breathe a big sigh of relief once they realize they don't fit the description of the target victims.
		But now, with the seemingly senseless bombing of this TWA flight, who can say they feel excluded as they board their next plane?
		Just as in a biological epidemic, we are all now at risk.
		We are all potential victims.
		Terrorism in its purest form.
		And while I had not considered that, this person is correct.
		Where are they?
		It would be terrorism in its purest form.
		No real reason.
		No real motive.
		None stated.
		Everybody at risk.
		Interesting.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening.
unidentified		Art, it's been a long time since I talked to you.
unidentified		This is Jim from the Bradshaw Mountains of Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim.
unidentified		Hi.
		Let's talk about this TWA 800.
		Sure.
		I believe that it was a missile.
		And you believe it was a bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I said number one choice is probably a bomb.
		Number two choice is a missile.
		I said on day one, sir, when this thing first occurred, there was the report of a rising flare.
		There was a report of radar anomalies.
		So I had my network, which is very good at doing these kinds of things, contact the military.
		The military said handheld Stinger missiles are capable of a range of between one and eight miles, a mile being, what, 5,280 feet, right?
		Right.
		So that would mean somebody in a boat in the water would have been at the minimum range of the stinger, not the maximum, but the minimum.
		And that's what I said I thought might have occurred.
		So it was either a bomb or it was a missile.
jack anderson ▲ ● ▼		Well, I believe I know why it was done, and I believe it was a missile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
jack anderson ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd like to say why I think it wasn't a bomb first.
jack anderson ▲ ● ▼		It would be very difficult in this country to put a bomb on a plane going overseas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		because of our security precautions we don't x-ray uh... uh... stored uh...
		you're you're really wrong sir um...
		The baggage you carry on, that's x-rayed.
		You walk through a little thing to be sure you're not carrying a knife or a gun or something.
		And so you're taken care of.
		Even the baggage you check is taken care of.
		But things being shipped, they're not.
unidentified		Well, that's debatable, but I believe they are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not debatable.
unidentified		Let's get down to who I think did it and why.
unidentified		Sure.
jack anderson ▲ ● ▼		What was the dominant news before these two plane crashes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Saudi Arabia?
unidentified		I mean, really dominant to tide up the media.
unidentified		Saudi Arabia was just a splash.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean Whitewater?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't leave me in the dark, sir.
unidentified		For 50 days it was on the television.
		What, what, what, what?
		The Freeman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Freeman.
unidentified		The Freeman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Freeman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, the Freeman standoff ended peacefully.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		And the court is going on right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		And you're not hearing nothing about it.
jack anderson ▲ ● ▼		Believe that this administration has no regard for life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Huh?
jack anderson ▲ ● ▼		And they would have plane crashes or something to tie up the media.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So let me get this straight.
		You think our administration bombed its own airplane to take attention away from a situation that had already ended.
		I do have that right, don't I?
unidentified		Yes, you do, but the situation has not ended.
jack anderson ▲ ● ▼		Just because you give up, it doesn't mean the situation is over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		I appreciate the call, but frankly, sorry to me, that's loony tunesville.
		I know everybody always wants to blame everything.
		We always bomb our own stuff, right?
		Every single thing that has happened, we always do it to ourselves.
		Murray Federal Building.
unidentified		Government bombed it.
unidentified		Right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Train wrecks.
		The government did it.
		A train collisions.
		The government arranged it.
		Planes going down.
		The government did it.
		Bomb goes off in Saudi Arabia.
		Kills a bunch of Americans.
		Our own government did it.
		There is a group out there that no matter what happens is going to believe that our own government did it.
Improvement on a Cellular Level 00:03:50
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was one of those.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, before I get to the thing I called about, just a couple thoughts about things I wish I knew 20 years ago.
		Yeah.
		And maybe these are things young people can think about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It won't help them, but it'll be fun for them to learn.
unidentified		Well, it'll help them if they take it to heart.
		I wish I knew that when you make a mistake, it's not the end of your life.
		That you, whether you make one mistake or 20, just keep going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Don't give up.
		And keep learning.
		Learn to love to learn and find what you're interested in and keep learning about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But the thing I wanted to talk to you about is while all of that is very sage advice, as my mom used to say, in one ear and out the other.
unidentified		It's universal.
		Well, you know, if it hits the right person at the right time, maybe they'll benefit from it.
		And it's universally applicable.
		There's a little science note I had for you.
		I heard you say something a few weeks ago that caught my ear.
		You said something about there was a scientific study that shows that DNA only degrades and it never gets better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Okay, that's not true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is your source?
unidentified		My source is the current knowledge about genetics.
		You would have to go into more detail about the study that you're referring to.
		When you're looking at individual strands of DNA, that might be true.
		But when you look at DNA in living cells, that's definitely not true.
		dna is a self-correcting mechanism in in fact there um in many different ways it is uh for instance give me one example um uh Sometimes in DNA replication, in meiosis and mitosis, if there's incorrect replication, in other words, if one of the strands is misspelled, it'll be clipped out.
		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That strand will be clipped out in a I know of no such example.
		And people with genetic birth defects don't cure.
		They remain as defects all their ways.
unidentified		That's right, because that and I'm not saying it's 100%, but mutations happen all the time.
unidentified		And the reason they're not more common is because often the DNA catches the mistake and corrects it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, where would you document a genetic improvement?
unidentified		Well, the improvement, what I'm talking about, happens on a cellular level.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		Well, I appreciate the call, and I suspect that both of us are not qualified to be discussing what we're talking about.
		But there was a study that showed that DNA does not improve, that it can only degrade.
		Now, I have no idea whether it's really true or not.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, Art.
unidentified		I called a while back ago when you had the Libertarian presidential nomination, Harry Brown.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Harry Brown, yes.
unidentified		Yes, and I was very impressed on what he had to say about the Communications Decency Act.
Palmer, Alaska Dreams 00:07:11
unidentified		Another question I wanted to ask him, and maybe you can help me on this too.
unidentified		See, I'm researching this for a research paper, and I was wondering, last I heard it was stuck in federal court being tested on its constitutionality, I was wondering if there's been any update on that yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like, if it's going to be declared unconstitutional or if what is going to be declared unconstitutional?
unidentified		The Communications Decency Act.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, it's in the courts.
		And my guess is that the First Amendment will prevail, and the bulk of it is going to be struck down.
		Okay.
		You asked my guess.
		That's it.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		And what you said, if what you wanted to know 20 years ago, well, I'm not 20 years old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I said is, what is it that you now know about life that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or in your case, we'll substitute 10 years.
unidentified		Alrighty.
		Like, I'm a college student right now.
		And when I was young and in high school, I did the study thing.
		You know, I came home from school.
		I did my homework and I went to bed early and all that good stuff.
		You know, I never really went out and had a good time.
		Now, if I could go back, I got good grades, and I can do good right now.
		I am going out, and I'm having a lot of fun, and I kind of neglect my studies, but I can still pull the good grades.
		That's what I wish I would have done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you wish, all right, thank you.
		You wish you had lived life a little more instead of being immersed in being a good kid, getting good grades, and you should have been out there socializing a little more.
		That's what I got out of that.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
		Going once.
		Going twice.
		Gone.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Art.
		Yes.
unidentified		This is Bob in New Orleans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Bob.
doug in south carolina ▲ ● ▼		Art, I read an article in the Times-Pici Union here about in the last two weeks, and it had to do with a small child somewhere in the Great Lakes region.
		His parents both had some problem with their DNA, and all previous children to this marriage had died.
		And somehow or other, this child's DNA corrected itself, and he was perfectly healthy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely correct.
		I did read the same article, but I don't know what to attribute that to, and I don't know which to believe.
		Well, you're absolutely correct.
unidentified		I don't know what that implies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
unidentified		But oh.
doug in south carolina ▲ ● ▼		What do I wish that I would have known 20 years ago?
unidentified		Yes.
doug in south carolina ▲ ● ▼		I wish that I would have known how easy it was to break your body.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you're young, you really do think you're immortal.
unidentified		And indestructible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indestructible, yes.
doug in south carolina ▲ ● ▼		And the only way you find out that you're not yourself and it don't get better.
doug in south carolina ▲ ● ▼		And then you have to learn to live with the weakness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, you're right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		I was that way.
		And, you know, I've had this lifelong thing where I wanted to fly.
		And I found out I was indestructible when I tried to fly.
		I went up out to Palmer, Alaska, out near Palmer, Alaska, on sort of a thing for KENI in Anchorage.
		And it was with a guy who owned a hang gliding company.
		And he had told me nothing can go wrong.
		Nothing can go wrong.
		We guarantee it.
		I mean, we're the best.
		We've got the best.
		I'm the best.
		No problem.
		You just go running down this hillside, and you'll feel yourself lift into the air and the exhilaration of flight.
		And I had the exhilaration of flight for, oh, I don't know, 10 or 15 seconds.
		And then I had the agony of the broken arm.
		That's when I found out, uh-oh, I do seem to be destructible.
		And of course, what I did is I had a compound fracture about two inches above the elbow.
		Try and picture that one in your mind if you can.
		And ever since then, I have been well aware that I am destructible.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Mike from St. Louis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mike.
unidentified		Yes, I'm calling about that what you'd like to have known 20 years ago.
		Yes, sir.
		It would have been real nice to know about remote viewing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		That's true.
		And you know what?
		I don't think a lot of people have ever thought about it, but there would certainly be a seamier side to remote viewing, wouldn't there?
		Or couldn't there be?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, from the way Courtney was talking about it, the morals is something you bring into it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I would say that the majority of those who go through the course probably would have fairly good morals and ethics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But some of them, just like real life, why, who knows?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Oh, and I have something I thought about about the chupacabras.
		Yes.
		Didn't Ross Perot warn us about a giant sucking sound from Mexico?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he did, sir.
		Thank you.
		That's at least seven on a scale of ten giant sucking sound.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good old Ross Perot.
		And he's going to run again, you know.
		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Hi.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Good evening, Art.
unidentified		Hi.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Tim in Denver?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Last time I spoke with you was the evening you had received Art Sparts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that very night?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		That very night.
		And I was one of the first callers, and I said, you really think you have something, don't you, Art?
		And you said, yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, I still do.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Oh, most definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Most definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		More than ever.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I haven't had a chance to call, but I know what's going on, and it's quite exciting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		A couple things.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		First of all, about the 20 years, which you would like to have known.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I would like to have known how computers were going to take off the way they did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you'd be a rich man now, wouldn't you?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Either to invest or just to get into it quite heavily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some fledgling little, silly little company called Microsoft.
unidentified		Oh, wouldn't it have been great?
Anomalous Ions Emitted 00:15:52
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		And also, back then, well, actually, 25, possibly 30 years ago, I thought the country was falling apart.
		I really, in my soul and my heart, thought the country was falling apart.
		We were protesting in the streets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What makes you think you were wrong?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		mean you consider it to be a cohesive together country?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I think, no, I think that back in the 60s and 70s we actually were bringing the country together.
		We were desperately trying to bring it together.
		The young people, especially, they saw what was going wrong, and it was like their last great stand, and then they just kind of gave up and turned into the baby boomer generation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, as compared to today, it was together then.
		Even with all the protest, it was together.
		There were causes worth fighting for.
		Today, we seem aimlessly lost without major goals except to get Friday and have a good weekend.
		And I don't know.
		Maybe it's my age showing.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		And exactly, mine, too.
		The evening that I received my After Dark this month's issue, I was turning to it and tuning you in about the time the airplane had been shot down or bombed or whatever.
		And it just struck me, page three, if you look in the middle of the page, the article excerpt that they brought out and highlighted.
		It says, we just don't realize how vulnerable we are to missile attack.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		That's page three.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's my newsletter, I know.
unidentified		By the way, did you see the picture of Juba Gabra?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I most certainly did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that one ugly sucker?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		That is one ugly sucker.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I also saw the crop circles on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you have?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I fact last week about him.
		Everybody, it's strange the response I'm getting from people, they look at it.
		This is real incredible, but it's also familiar.
		They seem to have seen it somewhere, or it's like in the movie The Third Kind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Close encounters?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Close encounters of third kind.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		You know, when they kept doing the things with the mashed potatoes, this means something to them.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Oh, that's a good comparison.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very good, sir.
unidentified		I appreciate your call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay, have a good afternoon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I suggest you take a very, very good look at those crop circles and listen to this while you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take a good, hard look.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
		The Trish Back in Time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from July 22nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Well, as promised, I'm going to keep this audience updated on what is affectionately called Arts Hearts.
		There was some very important testing that Linda Moltow and myself had to get done.
		There were only three or four locations in the whole U.S. where this testing could have been done.
		So we didn't want to open our mouths ahead of time.
		That testing is now complete.
		Not all testing is complete, but that phase of it is complete.
		And I'm going to repeat that a particular section or report here in a few moments.
		So if you are interested in those parts that have purported to be crash parts or debris from Roswell or a crash in New Mexico, stand by.
		That's coming up.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, so that you might be informed, so that you might know about this critical testing.
		Once again, as I mentioned, I kept my mouth shut about it until we got done with this phase of the testing for good reason.
		There were only about three or four places in the whole country that could have done the testing, and with some of the sort of, what's the word for it, dark background to some of what's been going on, we wanted to keep our mouths shut.
		I hope you understand.
		Here is Linda Howe's report on the most recent testing of Arts parts.
		Listen carefully.
		All right, on to the bismuth magnesium anomalous stuff.
unidentified		Yep.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yesterday I drove to Washington, D.C. to the Hallowed Carnegie Institute, where Dr. Eric Howry, an ion microprobe specialist, agreed to analyze the magnesium isotopes as an independent contractor.
		We worked for several hours and he prepared a written report which he signed, but he would not agree to be interviewed for Dreamland.
		So I am going to summarize his findings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		The magnesium in the layered material is not radically different from a natural pure magnesium metal that he used as a baseline comparison.
		There are three magnesium isotopes we looked at.
		Magnesium-24, which usually makes up about 80% of normal magnesium metal, and magnesium-25 and 26, which often are about 10% each.
		Our sample had a little more magnesium-25 and 26, but not outside the range of the baseline magnesium metal in terms of what would be normal variations.
		But there was a striking anomaly.
		And that was in the testing, there was the amount of ions that were emitted by our layered sample.
		Dr. Eric Howry stated in his report that the bismuth magnesium gave count rates of magnesium ions which were 65 times more than the magnesium metal standard.
		And as I sat there and watched, you could see a scope.
		You could actually see the ions as the, he was using oxygen atoms that would go down and bombard the surface of our material, and then that would scatter up the ions which this machine would measure.
		And you could actually see ions from his baseline metal and what it looked like as it changed to 24, 25, and 26.
		And then our sample, and it was a dramatic change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying it's 65 times normal.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 65 times more than was coming off of his baseline metal sample.
		And he gave three possible reasons why there might be so much more ion activity.
		First, we know there is about 2.5% to 3% zinc mixed in with the magnesium layers, and zinc might act as a catalyst for the magnesium ionization in our sample, whereas there was no zinc in the baseline magnesium metal.
		Now second, there might be yet some hidden oxygen in the magnesium layer, which could have been further excited by the oxygen electron beam used in the ion microprobe to bombard the magnesium surface in the analysis.
		However, none of the spectra that we have done has shown any oxygen at all.
		Third, Dr. Howry said there might possibly be a distinctive arrangement of magnesium crystal structure related to how the material was constructed.
		This is a question we are going to try to study in future tests by the university scientists.
		Now, Dr. Howry was also able to search for one of the very small 1 to 4 micron bismuth layers in our sample, which up to now the EDS and WDS studies had only shown bismuth and no other elements.
		But the highly sensitive ion microprobe showed a trace of a lead isotope, which Dr. Howry said might be a naturally occurring trace element, since lead and bismuth are very similar in characteristics and terrestrial locations.
		Or the lead might be a calculated alloy with the bismuth for yet unknown purposes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Linda, let me stop you.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm going to make you not stick your neck out, but be surprised, at least on the air.
		Richard Hoagland, who's going to be my guest, the audience might want to know this coming Friday night, Saturday morning, and keeps up on things like this.
		I happened to talk to Richard Hoagland prior to airtime, and I read him this anomaly section.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The 65 Times business about bismuth.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		The ion, magnesium ion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The ion radiation.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		The ion magnesium.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and Richard Hoagland said, Art, quickly go investigate the crystalline structure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said, what you have is a diamagnetic material, and you might just find that if you put about a million volts to it, it's going to rise up off the kitchen table.
unidentified		Which you and I have heard before from other sources.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And it's very clear that we need people to try this, and I'm hoping in the next few weeks that we might actually get some feedback from a variety of people around the country who said they're going to try that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This would be Tesla technology that would produce this kind of voltage.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, getting up to a million volts.
		Right.
		And well, so this is something coming in the future, but right now we have no data that would prove beyond doubt that the layered bismuth and magnesium zinc material is from an off-planet intelligence or manufactured by non-human beings as described by our anonymous South Carolina source.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we also have no proof that anybody on Earth has ever made it.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this has been one of my challenges as a journalist to research the civilian industrial community as well as others to see if I could find anyone anywhere who has actually layered bismuth and magnesium zinc alloy in these alternating layers and tell me what such a material might do from actual hands-on experience.
		Well, one senior technician in an industrial research and development facility in northwest Ohio named Nick Brider has had approximately 13 years in industrial technology and about 11 years in vacuum technology of thin films as well as high temperature chemistry.
		He's also been trying to find other research colleagues who might have some information about these layered elements.
		And this is what he told me.
		It is brief, but he gave me his permission to use this.
unidentified		This was just a couple of days ago.
skip farmbach ▲ ● ▼		Well let's start and say that this was something that was accidentally grown.
		You know that it was something that was made here in a factory.
		Now There are very large coders, sputter NE beam coders that put thin films or layers on different parts, substrate, pieces of glass.
		But the enigma for me right now is if it is, you know, an industrial artifact, let's call it that.
		But if it is that, I still don't know where in the dickens it would have come from because I've probed a few mechanical engineers, and I know from my own background that I've never heard of anyone using magnesium with bismuth.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like my montage over a month and a half ago, doesn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does.
		Exactly so.
		So we have absolutely still not nearly one person rare metals, scientists, labs, government labs.
		Nobody knows that this has ever been made, nor what it does.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so that's what we're left with.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And the mystery continues, and we're going to continue to do some more testing.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And it may be, in the end, that we will learn a little bit more about this whole issue of diamagnetic, magnetic-resisting material and applications that no one in the civilian world is aware of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, we'll leave it there.
		There you have it.
		That updates you on the latest testing of arts parts that occurred at Carnegie.
		And I thought you would want to hear that.
		So we are plowing ahead very seriously and expensively, I would add, with this whole project.
		But there is very little choice.
		Either you follow a path or you don't.
		And we are following it.
		The big news, Flight 800, CNN reported at 9 o'clock preliminary testing indicated there was an explosive device on board the jet.
		This, they said, by chemical traces found on a wing piece near the baggage compartment.
		In the last hour or two, there have been federal denials of this, so we can't seem to get it together, which is one thing I truly don't understand.
		I mean, I understand there's a lot of mystery about this.
		A lot of the aircraft still down below.
		The pinging from the black boxes has ceased, despite the fact that there are reports the batteries were brand new.
		Strange.
		But you would think, at least with regard to the testing we're doing, we could get some straight reports.
		Do you think it was domestic or foreign terror?
		If it was terror, would you say domestic or foreign?
		There was a day in America where it would be true heresy to ask such a question, but you know me.
		I'll ask.
		And then in response to my biggest problem with all of this, and that is why you would kill a lot of innocent people and then not claim credit, or do so beforehand so that it was truly known, I got this response, which I think is a good one.
		Sad, but good.
		Art, you overlook the best reason for terrorism.
		Terrorism to create it.
		Terrorism to create terror.
		Whenever a terrorist group claims responsibility for an act, 99% of the people in the country breathe a big, heavy sigh of relief once they realize they don't fit the description of the target victims.
		But now with the seemingly senseless bombing of this TWA flight, who can say they feel excluded as they board their next plane?
		Just as in a biological epidemic, we are all now at risk.
		We are all potential victims, terrorism in its purest form.
Twa Flight 866 Concerns 00:07:13
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that is a sad, sad thing to contemplate, isn't it?
		As you know, in about two weeks, ten days, I board an aircraft similar to the one that was shot down.
		TWA Flight 866, leaving 8 o'clock out of New York's Kennedy Airport, bound for Copenhagen, Denmark.
		And so it's on my mind.
		And then I heard in the news last hour that an airplane going into St. Louis, which is going to be my first stop again, TWA, lost an engine on a landing.
		It's not a big deal.
		I have been on aircraft that have lost engines before.
		As a matter of fact, I may not have told you this, but I flew to Paris on the Concorde.
		And as we came into Kennedy, our Concorde lost an engine.
		Bo-woom!
		A big bang sound.
		And as we landed and they put it in the thrust reverse, the engine went boom.
		A moment of excitement.
		Dear Art, today ABC announced the FBI has over 100 eyewitnesses who talk of a flare-like device streaking toward TW8 100 seconds before it burst into a ball of fire.
		How would a bomb inside the plane do that?
		Well, I agree, and I don't discount at all the possibility of a missile.
		Now, they have found evidence, chemical evidence, or not, depending on what you believe, that there was some sort of explosive external device.
		I'm not sure that means it was inside the aircraft.
		It just means, I guess, that it was terrorism.
		Art, one possible reason for the 747 bombing that I haven't heard anybody mention is for the insurance money.
		Many beneficiaries will be paid some very large sums of money.
		Scott in Memphis.
		True.
		And I'm sure they will look into that.
		Art, about Flight 800, I have an idea of what could have occurred.
		I sincerely believe there's a good chance it was a stinger.
		However, it was not a terrorist attack.
		I suspect a militia group, street gang, youth gang, village idiot, a drunk, maybe even somebody who would have thought that there wasn't a chance the missile would strike at that range.
		Could have even been a member of the Army Reserves.
		Yeah, I suppose all of that is possible.
		And then I've got one sort of generalized question I'm asking you this morning.
		It is one they asked of Sam Nunn on Meet the Press, and it is simply, what is it that you now know about life that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
		Anybody want to bite on that one?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, this is the hair from Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello there.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		I know you got Cornell on, so I know you've been getting my email.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
unidentified		I also would like to get Orson Scott card.
unidentified		Oh, I would love to get Orson Scott card.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if you have any in with Orson Scott card, any contact info.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		I've only met him once, but I do have his email address.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, send it to me, and I will follow up.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because I'm Mormon.
unidentified		He's Mormon.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		And I was listening to the one guy that you had on that was trying to make it for the churches with detected.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		Of course, he had a Mormon background, and he was kind of getting me angry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but not an altogether happy Mormon background.
unidentified		No.
linda moulton howe ▲ ● ▼		So, uh, I think he'd kind of rebut it a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I would be, thank you.
		I'd be very, very interested to pursue that.
		I'd love to have Orson Scott Card on.
		Not so much for the angle on the Mormon church, but for the books he has written.
		Particularly, Speaker for the Dead.
		God, what a book that was.
unidentified		Ooh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You ever get a chance to read Speaker for the Dead?
unidentified		Do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		This is Jason from Hollywood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jason from Hollywood?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Jason.
unidentified		I want to talk about Flight 800.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And I have a theory for why it went down.
		Okay.
		Well, I think that it was probably Stinger, whatever they say it was.
		And I think, what about the Columbian, you know, those drug lord guys?
		Mm-hmm.
		Those like the, because the government is kind of against them, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		But they would have reason to claim credit ahead of time.
		You see?
		In other words, the message would be, lay off the cartels or else.
		At least that would be a message.
		That would be a thing you could understand.
		But what have we got now, Jason?
		Just sort of generalized, unclaimed terror that will level itself on everybody every time you get on an airplane.
unidentified		Yeah, but when you play that song, you know by that Armstrong guy?
		Yeah.
		That makes me happier.
		I don't really think about it.
		Could you play that when I hang up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just played it last hour.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		We'll play it soon enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, on the other hand, I can be talked into almost anything, Jason.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
unidentified		Thanks, bye.
unidentified		See you later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Jason in Hollywood.
		I just, I fell in love with that song.
		I don't know why.
		If you get a chance to see 99, 12 monkeys, by all means, see it.
		It's a movie you have to watch more than once.
		Or should, I guess, watch more than once.
		It is true.
		I love that.
		Sure.
		Jason, why not?
		I'm Easy.
		Here you go.
		One more time.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		This is Premier Network.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this, somewhere in time.
		I see them blue.
		Spirit.
		And I think to myself, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Something Really Weird 00:11:11
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Has it occurred to anybody strange, more than passing strange, that the pinging sound from the black boxes is no longer pinging?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, has it occurred to anybody out there that one possible cause for that might be the black boxes aren't down there anymore?
unidentified		They wouldn't pick them up, not tell us about it, would they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They wouldn't do that, would they?
		They'd give us the straight poop, wouldn't they?
		Sure they would.
		CNN reported that it was an explosive device, preliminary.
unidentified		Feds are denying it.
unidentified		What's going on here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, here's something really weird.
		Really weird.
		This is the home of weird.
		I just got just this moment.
		The following near-time earthquake bulletin is provided by the National Earthquake Information Service of the U.S. Geological Survey, and it lists the series of volcanic-related quakes in Hawaii, and then it lists at 119.59, which means it just occurred today an earthquake in New York.
unidentified		New York.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Strange.
		Wonder where it was in New York.
		Not a big one, but at about a five-kilometer depth, that's very narrow.
		About 2.6.
		So somebody there in New York must have felt it someplace.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Oh, hi, Art.
		This is Ed, Sunlin, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Ed.
unidentified		Oh, well, a couple of things.
		First, on remote viewing.
		Yes.
		I wonder if he'd done any work.
		I can't remember his name, Courtney, Courtney Brown.
		Yes.
		Any work finding out what the crop circle could be, who's causing him, how it's caused, and so forth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we never got around to that.
unidentified		Yeah, I tried to get in, but it was such an interesting show that everybody was trying to get on.
unidentified		Also, yesterday, Sunday, was the birth anniversary of Nikola Tesla, and you just mentioned that perhaps Art's parts might have something to do with the Tesla technology and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, in the sense that it might take Tesla technology to produce the kind of voltage that is going to be required to produce what we think might happen if that kind of voltage is applied.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Well, that's interesting.
		I was invited to a Tesla birthday celebration, and it's not well known that Tesla was Serbian.
		And of course, these days, Serbian is kind of a bad, bad word.
		And what I want to find out from another source, because I was given the objectivity of where I was at the time, I was watching a documentary on the situation in Bosnia that we haven't heard too much about lately.
		That actually some of the atrocities attributed to the Serbs were committed by Muslims, and it was reported wrong that the Serbs had done it and so forth.
		And I wonder if anybody else could verify that.
		And by the way, you know, your competition rush, Limbaugh, his competition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he's not.
unidentified		He's not, not really.
		His listeners come in, come on, and say, Dittos?
		Is that it?
		Didos?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did those.
unidentified		Yeah, how about kilos, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kilos, kilos.
unidentified		Yes, kilos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
		I like it.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, sure.
		The reason for that, those of you who don't know, is that we all know NSA has computers.
		And these computers monitor constantly telephone conversations.
		Now, you knew that, didn't you?
		And what they do is they look randomly, you know, they just look randomly for keywords.
		I'm sure they look for words like terrorist, bomb, kilo, as it relates to drugs.
		And so it has been suggested that to protect one's privacy, everybody, during the course of a normal conversation, simply occasionally utter the word kilo.
		Kilo.
		Somewhere a cray deep under the NSA's building stops cold and makes some guy listen to the conversation.
		Yeah, you might say kilos.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I just figured I'd call to let you two on this idea about the crop circles.
		Yes, sir.
		What if it was a symbol symbolizing planets and moons and someone is leaving a symbol?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could be.
		I mean, your guess is as good as any.
		I have no idea what it means.
		What if it means you now have two months to either get your act together or else?
		What if it means that?
unidentified		It just, it kind of looks like maybe another extended map of the universe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, could be.
		All I can say is go take a look.
		We have got two of the most magnificent, stunning, heart-stopping, taking-breath away kind of photographs up there you've ever seen.
		One of Stonehenge in England of the current crop circle, and the other of what is called the DNA double helix.
		Now, it is not precisely a DNA double helix, but the resemblance is uncanny.
		So you go take a look.
		It's up on my webpage, which is www.artbell, that's A-R-T-B-E-L-L, no space, dot com.
		It is not a hard web address to recall.
		www.artbell.com.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, hello.
		Hello.
		Yeah, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir?
unidentified		Yeah, I want to talk about the crop circles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, where are you?
unidentified		I'm Eric from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Do you think aliens would come down here and actually, with all the technology, come down and play in the weeds?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not sure it's playing.
		Maybe it's messaging.
		Maybe it is a form of communication.
		I mean, why would we be so egotistical to presuppose that another race would communicate the way we do by radio or TV or even vocal communication?
unidentified		Oh, that's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So who the hell knows what they are?
		But I'll tell you this.
		I can tell you what they are not.
		They are not products of Doug and Dave.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Well, what about Trupa Cabra?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's always possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like the guy last hour who said, you remember when Ross Perot talked about the giant sucking sound from the south?
unidentified		All right, nice talking to you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Goodbye.
		I thought that was cute.
		First time call our line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, yes.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess he hung himself up.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That happens.
		People get nervous, you know, and they get on the air and they press the wrong button.
		I can only imagine the fist pounding that must go on after that.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
		You were talking about, you know, the airplane crash and all that, and mentioning that not so long ago it would have been unthinkable to even speculate about domestic terrorism.
		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right, yes.
unidentified		I have, I guess, three theories.
		I don't know about what it might have been.
		Probably none of them is right.
		Who knows?
		One of them, I guess, probably the one I tend to believe the most, and I don't know.
		I sure hope I'm wrong.
		It would be that it's probably one of the competing airlines here in America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sir.
unidentified		I kind of had a feeling that might be your reaction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		Oh, sir.
		What is number two?
unidentified		Well, let me tell you about this, number one.
		Both of these airlines, the one down in Florida and then this one in New York, both of them were really getting into a spot where they were making extra money and cutting into the competition.
		So it just makes it kind of seem like there's something in common.
		And both of them had the flight recorders go silent.
		So anyway, the other theory is that it might be something to do with the Olympic Games because the Greeks were unhappy with us about the Olympics being here in America on the Millennium Games or something.
		And of course, this plane was going to Athens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a third possibility?
unidentified		The third one is probably the one the establishment would like the best, and that is the one that the other man suggested.
unidentified		It was probably done for insurance money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is possible.
		All right.
		I appreciate your call.
		I do.
		That is always possible.
		It always has to be considered.
		And you know, they're reviewing all of the insurance that people took out.
		I'll bet you people are taking out a lot more insurance now.
		But, you know, the truth is, the one thing the NTSC, NTSB, is it?
		C, NTSB, I guess, says that is true is that even with this occurring, as much in the headlines as it is, it is still safer to fly than it is to drive.
		And you are more likely to be killed on the street than you are to be blown out of the air by a terrorist or an accident or anything else.
		So you've got to keep that in mind.
		Back into the land of the unexpected.
		We do not screen calls.
		We just push buttons here.
Flying Saucer Quarter 00:15:47
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you are the next button.
		Good morning.
		You're on the air.
		Yeah, I'll.
unidentified		This is Ralph Pasadena.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I hear you talking about the $100 bill all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
unidentified		Did you hear about the new quarters?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They will carry individual state symbols of what they're doing.
unidentified		Right, like Texas, the Lone Star, California Bear.
unidentified		Kind of scary stuff, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		You know what I think we ought to have on ours here in Nevada?
		A flying saucer.
unidentified		A flying saucer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The flying saucer quarter.
unidentified		What, for Nevada?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And then that would be on the front of the quarter.
		On the back of the quarter, we could have an image of the White House blowing up.
		That's from ID4.
		Yeah.
		Now, would that be a coin or what?
unidentified		Yeah.
		You was asking about the what would I know if I knew about 20 years ago?
		I got a story for you.
		All right.
		And you're going to laugh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I wish I knew now what I, I mean, I wish I knew 20 years ago what I know now about teeth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Teeth?
unidentified		Teeth.
		Oh.
		How easy they come out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nothing to laugh about there.
unidentified		No.
		Well, the story.
		Okay, here's the story.
		When I was four years old, Tarzan was big on Saturday morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember that.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, I thought I can climb up a tree, swing from a rope.
		Oh.
		But not by my teeth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did it by your teeth?
unidentified		Yes, I did by my teeth, and all four front teeth got yanked out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		Oh, man.
unidentified		Hey, you know, every time I think about it, I grin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, do you know there is an award that is given out for things like that called the annual Darwin Award?
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah, the last involved a guy who put a jetpack on the back of his Impala, I believe it was, and impacted the side of a mountain doing several hundred miles an hour.
		It's called the Darwin Award.
		And I think that you should be nominated for four teeth, huh?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		It took about four years to go back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, at least you didn't do it with your permanent ones.
unidentified		That's true.
unidentified		That's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Yes, I think that one may qualify right up there with the jetpack on the back of the Chevy.
		I should dig that out and read it to you.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		I'm fine.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reasonably well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Contemplating my trip to Europe, and so I'm in a good mood.
unidentified		Well, that's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Los Angeles.
unidentified		And I was calling about that Flight 800.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I was thinking that perhaps it was an accident.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the evidence would seem contraire, but what leads you to believe it is an accident?
unidentified		Well, what I mean is an accident by the military who were performing operations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean they might have shot it down by accident?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have heard that.
unidentified		There were flares that were seen by all those witnesses, as well as perhaps one of those missiles got away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		It's possible.
		And if it is that, will we ever know?
		You remember those black boxes that were pinging that are not pinging now?
unidentified		Well, that's right.
unidentified		I kind of think that that may be one of the reasons that they're so slow in going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just, you know, if you want to think conspiracy, think the reason they're not pinging anymore is because they're not down there anymore.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I'm not trying to think of a conspiracy.
unidentified		I think it just seems almost the more obvious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call, ma'am.
		And it is a possibility, though.
		You would think that had we fired a missile, A, the missile would no longer be there, and somebody would say, gee, look, a missing missile.
		Now, we ought to investigate that.
		On the other hand, maybe not.
		I wouldn't think that the Navy or the military on Long Island would be firing missiles at all.
		But I could be wrong about that, too.
		What do I know?
		Others have speculated about a submarine.
		Could have been a submarine.
		Could have been a terrorist in a rowboat.
		Could have been a bomb on board.
		At this point, we don't know.
		What I am objecting to is the apparent confusion of information regarding the investigation itself.
		Now, that ticks me off.
		We ought to know the truth, and why don't we?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		How are you doing today?
		I'm calling from Reno.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I just thought in your point on the UFO on the Nevada quarter, I thought maybe instead of silver and copper, they ought to be made out of magnesium and bismuth as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Magnesium, bismuth-layered quarters.
unidentified		You got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think the cost of that might be a little prohibitive for a quarter.
unidentified		Well, if they could even make them.
unidentified		Maybe the U.S. men can make them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, nobody.
		Yeah, that's right.
		Nobody has yet made this that we know of, so it's a good point.
		But what do you think?
		I mean, a flying saucer, wouldn't that be good?
unidentified		I think it would be great.
		Now, I want what you put on the other side.
		I think you mentioned it earlier, but we'll have to go.
		Well, it's about to come up with something good there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I suppose it would be too bad.
unidentified		The only problem is, I guess, though, is if you can get those things to levitate when you put them in a soda machine, you might be able to pop the money back out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sort of jam it in, and it floats back out.
		There you go.
		Now, it might be worth manufacturing.
		You guys are all right.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
		A quarter you could put in a soda machine that would levitate back out again.
		Somebody wrote me this after listening to Linda's report.
		Art, the bismuth, magnesium, zinc fragments you have are from the underside of an older model spacecraft.
		It was used to protect the belly of the ship when it was running its intergravitational engines in the atmosphere.
		Take a clue from the Levitron that you are advertising.
		It is true that we are advertising something called the Levitron on Dreamland.
		There is a photograph.
		It does.
		It does.
		It levitates.
		It's the damnedest thing you ever saw.
		It takes a, you know, you got to learn how to do it.
		But you spin it, and then you just raise it on this plate, and then you remove the plate.
unidentified		And this thing sits there in midair, spinning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is awesome.
		Absolutely awesome.
		And when I got it, I couldn't do it.
		I got so angry at it, I almost threw the metallic piece through a window.
		And my son spent about 20 minutes.
		How embarrassing.
		He spent about 20 minutes.
		And he levitated that sucker.
		And then after he did it once, he did it again and again and again and again.
		I couldn't believe my eyes.
		So that's when I called the people at Levitron.
		See, I had first called them.
		I said, you guys are out of your mind.
		Everybody's going to be angry at me if I sell this because they're not going to be able to do it.
		But, you know, trust a 15-year-old to come along and spend just a few minutes at it.
		And he had that sucker levitating and spinning and amazingness.
		And it does.
		It just sits there and spins in the air.
		It is unbelievable.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More somewhere in time coming up.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from July 22nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good to be here.
		If you like mysteries, we sure have got one.
		CNN reported that there was an explosive device on board Flight 800.
		They said they had evidence that consisted of a report, a chemical report of the trace elements found on a piece of wing near the baggage compartment.
		Or would it be fuselage?
		I think they said wing.
		Then the government said, no, that's not true.
		The black boxes, which had brand new batteries, were not pinging anymore.
unidentified		As of today, they had been pinging, but now they're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, why would that be?
		Has it occurred to anybody that they might not be pinging because they might not be there anymore?
		Thought I'd feed the conspiracy crowd a little bit.
		And if that's not enough for you, consider the possibility of a missile because there's about 100 eyewitnesses that saw something headed up toward that airplane before the explosion.
unidentified		And then the big question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't there a CNN show that has the big question, assuming that it was terrorism, would you be more inclined to think it was domestic or foreign?
		And then consider the fact that there was a day in America where to ask such a question would have been considered heresy.
		Too bad it isn't today.
		Domestic or foreign?
unidentified		What do you think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And somebody said, well, no, it was me.
		I said, well, what's the good of a terrorist act if you're not trying to manipulate the foreign policy of a nation or whatever it is, stupid thing you're trying to do?
		And somebody answered all too well for me, and the answer was, you just scare the hell out of everybody who gets on an airplane.
unidentified		That's true, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		True.
		Vincent Bugliosi.
		Ooh, I've got to learn that.
		Bugliosi, that she is silent.
		Vincent Bugliosi tomorrow night at 11.
		You're not going to want to miss that first hour of the program.
		Then Friday night, Saturday morning, the return of Richard Hoagland.
		And he's got some news for you.
		Then we're asking sort of a general question.
		What is it that you now know about life right now that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
		Somebody asked Sam Nunn that on Meet the Press Sunday, and I thought, oh man, what a great, great question.
		So I am asking you tonight, think about it.
		What is it that you now know about life in general that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
		Then, remember, we were talking about kilo, talking about saying kilo, say kilo on the air.
		Some guy just sent me a fact, said, Art, I did just as you said while on the phone with a friend.
		I repeated kilo three times soon after the DEA broke down my door and took all 10 kilos of my stash.
		I'm never going to listen to you again.
		Dave in Houston, Texas.
		What had I wished I'd known?
		Art, I wish I'd known that when I was younger, I was going, that going on diets would only make me fatter.
		Had I known that then, my quality of life today would be much better.
		Art, you can perform a valuable public service by sharing this information.
		If you seriously wish to learn the truth about obesity, check when he gives me a World Wide Web address.
		So he thinks youthful dieting has made him a fat guy.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		Mr. Bell?
		Yes.
		I would like to tell you something that had happened to me about 15 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dear lady, I can hardly even hear you.
		Put your lips up to the phone and project.
		It happened to you 15 years ago.
		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, go ahead.
unidentified		And I had been afraid to tell anybody because I didn't want to think I had gone to a loony-tootie, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you can tell me.
unidentified		All right.
		I got prepared for bed and I went to bed and I woke up and I was in something.
		You know, I didn't know what it was at that time.
		A ship.
		And They aren't the way that people say that they were mean and cruel to them, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They?
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean the little guys?
unidentified		Well, they were small, but they didn't have those great, big, big eyes.
unidentified		They had large eyes, but they weren't real, real big like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not overly large.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did they do to you?
unidentified		All right.
		I um they told me they didn't open their mouth or anything, but they told me not to be afraid.
		And I said I wasn't.
		In fact, I was very peaceful.
		It was a a very peaceful thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, kind of like when a dentist says this isn't going to hurt.
unidentified		It didn't.
		It didn't.
		And they brought me to like to a table, and they pointed to it, and I went willingly and got up on the table.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And see, now why would you do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know that aliens do stuff to people who get on tables.
unidentified		I had no fear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I had no fear.
		It was very peaceful.
		And they were very kind to me, it seemed like.
		I can't recall too much of it, but I remember I sort of looked out of some kind of window, and I remember seeing like the stars, I guess they were.
		And I woke back up again in my bed, you know, and I thought, well, I couldn't even remember what I had dreamed about.
		Normally, I remember, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then what do you think they did?
unidentified		Well, I remember I would put when people would come in or somebody and I would go to greet somebody or if I'd get up tight, I remember I used to put my legs very tight together and come stand erect and I would keep my hands and my arms straight down to my body, but I would spread my hands out and sort of bow.
		And I remember my daughter saying, why are you doing that?
		And I said, doing what?
		I had no recall of why I was doing it then.
Psychic Vampire Memories 00:08:04
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then why?
unidentified		Well, I just, because it made me feel peaceful.
unidentified		And I recall that's the way that I greeted these people on the ship or wherever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
		All right.
		Well, maybe that was it.
		Sort of like Spock's live long and prosper signal.
unidentified		Right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Abductee.
unidentified		Many people claim they have been abducted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would not get on the table, though.
		It's like going to the dentist when the dentist says this may pinch a little bit.
		That means this is going to hurt like hell.
		Prepare yourself.
		Nurse, hold them down.
		When they tell you it won't hurt at all, it's going to be moderate pain.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good morning, Art.
		I've been trying to reach you for a long, long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have now?
unidentified		We really love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in West Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West Texas.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Okay.
		And I wanted to, I want to put my name in the hat for when you take your vacation, of course, you know, because I like your show so much.
		I wish to emulate you or fill in for you, whichever is case.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's kind.
		We did that last time.
		This time, we are going to do the best of.
		We are going to just, we took all the best interviews that have occurred over the last many months or even years.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's going to be really hot.
unidentified		Well, I have a suggestion, too.
		Okay.
		Next time they have a bunch of people like the Montana militia people like that, why don't they just round up all the chupacaprerists and take them up there?
		Turn them loose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn them loose?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like on the farm?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		That works for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Truly cruel, sir.
unidentified		Have a good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all right.
		Thank you.
		People are so cruel these days.
		So cruel.
		If aliens are communicating with us by making crop circles, then how do we reply?
		Doug and Dave will be very busy, I suppose.
		That's from Ryan in Santa Barbara.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Art Bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		turn your radio off, that is...
unidentified		Just did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		This is Denny in South Dakota calling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I have a couple of comments and a question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		First of all, a question.
unidentified		Last week you had a guest on, and I didn't catch enough of the show to catch the gentleman's name, but he talked about Mars aliens inhabiting New Mexico nurseries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I go on vacation, we will replay that program.
unidentified		I see.
unidentified		Well, I was hoping I could get his name and the name of his book from you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't this second, but that information, of course, obviously is going to be in the replay.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you would.
		It was Courtney Brown, but the name of the book, let me see, Cosmic Voyage, I believe.
		Okay?
unidentified		Pardon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, okay.
unidentified		That sounds fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
		And listen for the replay.
		Oh, we're going to have the best of the best on when I'm going.
		You're really going to enjoy that.
		It won't be, it's all non, well, with the exception of, I don't want to give too much away.
		I better not give too much away.
		Anyway, you're going to be surprised.
		There is going to be a series of the creme de la creme when I'm going.
		You just wait.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		KQMS, right in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I haven't heard from you in probably days.
unidentified		I know, and you know why?
unidentified		Because I haven't got my new phone yet, and I wasn't going to call because you said my voice sounded terrible, but I couldn't stand it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, your voice would be so crisp and clear and good on a good phone.
unidentified		I thought I will get one.
		I mean, for heaven's sakes, go to a swap meet and buy one of the good old-fashioned.
		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got that one in a swap meet?
unidentified		At a garage sale.
		My garage sales.
		You know, my kids keep breaking them.
		Well, why do I go to garage sales and get phones?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		You know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Now, see, remember a couple weeks ago I called you, and, you know, you made me feel so much better because I asked you if I could unintentionally cause some people psychic harm, and you said, look, now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got an idea.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just before we proceed, take your telephone, the one you got in your hand now, hold on to the mouthpiece that you talk into.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And take, well, no, no, I'm sorry, that's wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on to the other side that you listen to.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And bang the mouthpiece on a table like that.
		Go ahead.
		Do it right.
		Really?
		I'm serious.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, go ahead.
unidentified		Does it sound better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was worth a try.
unidentified		But see, I asked you if I could unintentionally cause people psychic harm.
unidentified		See, you could be an unintentional psychic vampire and not even know it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what we were discussing last night, actually.
unidentified		I know, I know.
		And, you know, that totally blue, you're making me feel good right away because now I feel bad because I could be, you know why?
		I'll tell you why.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You may well be a psychic vampire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've actually had that thought myself.
unidentified		I know.
		Listen, I thought that thought about you.
		Well?
		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I deny it.
unidentified		Me too.
		I'm like, ooh, I don't want to be that.
		That's what I wanted.
		I couldn't get through last night.
		I wanted to ask that guy, if you're an unintentional psychic vampire, how do you stop?
		Get a little closer to the phone, dear.
		Come on, closer, closer.
		Oh, God.
		You know what?
		What?
		Oh, I know.
		I forgot what I was going to say.
		That's just great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, see, you're not a psychic vampire then.
		A psychic vampire would have a better memory.
		A psychic vampire would not have blanked out at that moment.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning, Art.
		Good morning to you.
		Where are you?
unidentified		This is Jim Cassidy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Jim.
unidentified		How are you doing this morning?
		Fine.
		I wanted to ask you, I saw that missile there on the film CNN put on there going up.
		And I'm an ex-Vietnam veteran.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I haven't seen any film of that.
unidentified		They had it on the news right after it happened.
unidentified		And I haven't seen the film since.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I was there right from the beginning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I never saw a flare or a missile or a shot of anything like that.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Well, I don't know what channel it was on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't believe it.
		Because if they'd had that.
		Well, I'm not lying to you.
		Well, they would have then had a picture of the debris falling into the ocean.
unidentified		They had, you could see it right before the big explosion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was no big explosion on film.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nuh.
		They had burning debris in the water.
		That's the only film I saw.
unidentified		Well, there was another film on there that showed the explosion, and you could see, you could see the flicker.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If they had that, they'd have been showing it over and over and over again.
unidentified		I would think so, too, but I haven't seen it again.
		And I just thought when you brought it up, I said, well, I saw that on TV myself.
		And why haven't they re-shown that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		I appreciate the call, but I think you're wrong.
		I really do.
		If they had a picture of the explosion of that airliner, I guarantee by now you would have seen it until you thought your head would explode.
		No, I don't believe so.
		The photograph they did have might, because it was dark in the background, you might have thought that you were seeing something in the air, but indeed it was burning debris on the ground.
		Now, if I'm wrong about that, fine.
		Somebody come on along and tell me so, but I believe that's correct.
Bathroom Revelation 00:03:46
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air coast to coast a.m. with Art Bell.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How in the world are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fairly well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where in the world are you?
unidentified		Arkansas.
unidentified		This is Ken.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Arkansas.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where in Arkansas?
unidentified		Southern Arkansas.
		Okay.
		Concerning your question, Art, about what we would do if we knew something 20 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's not getting this quite right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The question is, what is it that you now know about life that you wish you had known 20 years ago?
unidentified		That is a good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Damn right it is.
unidentified		I've got two quick experiences for you.
		I found out who I am.
		And what I mean by that is four years ago, this coming November, I was dying of cancer.
		And some friends of mine, we had been seekers of truth, as you are, for a long time.
		Started off in Christianity.
		And we were talking about spiritual things.
		I walked into the bathroom, began to wash my hands, a strange place, but the whole bathroom lit up to the point that I disappeared in the mirror looking at my reflection.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		It was pretty incredible.
unidentified		I mean, it was a mind-blower.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've had some pretty unusual bathroom experiences, but nothing to rival that.
unidentified		Well, I found out that God is within us, the last place I looked.
		But after that, a lot of strange occurrences.
		That started me on a journey.
		And this 4th of July, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait, wait.
		You were in the bathroom and you disappeared in a flash of light.
		Obviously, you had to, at some point, reappear.
		Where were you when you came back?
		Were you in a stall?
unidentified		Well, my knees turned to Jell-O.
		No, I was standing in front of the mirror, and my knees turned to Jell-O, and I said, is that you?
		And he said, it's me, son.
		And I said, well, can you turn down the light a little?
		It's kind of freaking me out a little bit.
		And he did.
		And he said, I'm here to answer your question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
unidentified		And I said, well, the first one, then I began to doubt my own sanity at that point, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		And I said, well, what's the meaning to life?
		And it was so simple.
		He said, I am.
		And he spoke from inside of me.
		And I realized at that point that God has always been inside of me.
		Well, after this...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it took a bathroom experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
unidentified		Strange place to meet God, isn't it?
		But after this, Art, I sat on the stool, and when I got up, there was blood and mucus that left my body.
		Wow.
		And there was no trace.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then your cancer was gone?
unidentified		It was gone.
		It was gone.
		And I found out who I am.
		As the scripture says, Christ in you, the hope of glory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is a remarkable story, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is a remarkable story.
unidentified		One more real quick one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't have time for one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Besides.
unidentified		It's outstanding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're never going to top the last one.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		No, you've got to quit while you're ahead.
		Besides, I'm at a break point here.
		I've got a break.
		So I'm going to thank you for that.
		In your next call, you can relate.
		I mean, you're just not going to top that.
		That's all there is to it.
Comparing Cellular Phones 00:06:13
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only with live unscreened talk radio.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from July 22, 1996.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from July 22nd, 1996.
		Good morning, everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is great to be here, actually, and great to be alive, huh?
		Let's go to the International Line.
		Ah, the International Line.
		You're on the air coast to coast AM with Arbell.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		How you doing?
		I'm calling from Cochola, Finland.
		It's pretty close to the northern Sweden and Finnish border.
		I listen to your show back when I'm home in the States, and I thought I'd give you a call when I got over here on vacation with my wife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know that I'm going in about 10 days right over to your territory, be landing in Copenhagen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so I'm dying to know how is the weather over there?
unidentified		Oh, it is just awesome right now.
		There's not really a cloud in the sky.
		It's about 75 to 80 degrees, and it is really nice.
		We're right here on the coast in a little summer house, so it's pretty nice since our vacation is coming to an end later this week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's about 115 degrees, 118 degrees here every day now.
unidentified		Well, that sounds like typical Nevada weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is at this time of year.
		And so I'm looking forward to your weather for a couple of weeks.
		It's going to really be nice, and it sounds like you're in a beautiful location.
unidentified		Oh, it's wonderful.
		Oh, the reason I called, though, I was curious because listening to your show back home, when we came over here, one of the things I wanted to do is check out the difference of the $100 bill like you've been talking about.
		You know, I've heard a lot of people say, oh, that's different over in Europe.
		Yes.
		So I took you up on the challenge.
		I went down to the bank, and I asked the lady for one of their new $100 bills so I could compare them.
		And really, I couldn't tell any difference.
		I don't know if maybe an expert eye could take out some of the differences, but it looked to me just to be the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, did you get one of the new bills?
unidentified		Right, this is one of the new with the big Ben Franklin picture on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, it sure is ugly, isn't it?
unidentified		Oh, it is.
unidentified		I don't know why they decided to change it so dramatically, but yeah, looking at the two different bills side to side, they didn't look like they were much different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe it is a difference that we are unable to detect.
		It's hard to say.
		I know they had intention to do that for counterfeiting.
		Now, since you have been gone, you would not know, but there are now plans to have 50 separate quarters, one of the 25 cent piece, one for each state of the union.
		So that's absolutely.
		Are you kidding me?
		No, I'm not kidding you.
		And I want to find out.
unidentified		There's one more thing, though, I'd like to share with you.
		When you get over here, you have to check out their cellular phones.
		You'll be just amazed at their technology that they have in their cellular phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Should I bring my cellular phone?
		Would it work over there?
		I mean, that's a big Rome.
unidentified		No, unfortunately, I tried that with mine.
		In fact, mine's a Nokia, which is made over here in Finland.
		And it doesn't even compare with what they have.
		Their phones are on what's called a GSM system.
		Oh.
bill in north carolina [2] ▲ ● ▼		And it's just so impressive.
unidentified		If you have your phone off and say you're not available to answer it, you know, on my phone, it'll just say someone that called.
		Well, on their phones, it will store up to like five different numbers.
		It actually tells you the number that is coming in, and you could read it on the menu screen with the actual display.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that figures.
		Yeah, that figures.
		There were advances in radio when I was in Europe in Paris.
		It was amazing to me on FM radio, too.
		All right, listen, my friend.
		I thank you.
unidentified		I think you are my first caller from Finland.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Keep in touch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
		Bye-bye.
		Finland.
		I never can remember to give that number out.
		If you would like to reach us from any overseas place, you can do it like that, man.
		Here's how you do it.
		It's simple.
		It really is.
		All you do is call the ATT operator for the country you're in and get the ATT USA direct number.
		There is a USA direct code, country code.
		Or, if you can't do that, call the ATT operator and then call our international toll-free number, which is 800-893-0903.
		Let me give that again.
		800-893-0903.
		And for you, it will be toll-free from anywhere in the whole world.
		As far as I know, we're the only ones who have a true toll-free international line.
		Again, that number, 800-893-0903.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, I've Michael KEX.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Late last night, I heard a news release, and I don't know if it was an FAA official or FBI.
unidentified		They said they didn't want the information of this being a terrorist attack, because if it was, that would give the perpetrators time to destroy evidence and things like that.
Trace Elements and Training Ops 00:02:24
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably true, yes.
unidentified		So that's probably true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine if there are perpetrators, they're busily destroying whatever they can anyway.
unidentified		Oh, I'm sure of it, yeah.
unidentified		Okay, well, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and have a good morning.
		Art on Nightline tonight, they reported all that you have been talking about.
		But they also reported trace elements on the leading edges of a piece of wing debris.
		There were also reports of a live-fire Navy exercise eight miles from the crash site.
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This might explain the fortuitous presence of a C-130 and helicopters conducting rescue training ops.
unidentified		Oh, God, don't let it be that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
		So, there you are.
		That's awful to even contemplate, isn't it?
		Your caller may be on to something.
		The New York Times just reported traces of explosives.
		Then reported a military official said a second test showed no explosives.
		The Pentagon seems to have all recordings of the radar trackings and have conclusively decided there was no missile.
		And again, now, no ping.
		A military mistake.
		A mere 98th degree Mason, but I'm trying.
		Signed Kilo.
unidentified		Kilo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kilo.
		Yes, it gets deeper and deeper.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Woo!
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bunch of echo there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, I'm calling from Hawaii.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, you have much echo there.
unidentified		Okay, and I just wanted to let you know that if I had, I'm only 17, but if I had, say, 10 years to go back in time, like I'm sorry, it's got to be 20 years.
Graham Hancock's Pre-Birth Secrets 00:15:34
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So tell us about your pre-birth experience.
unidentified		Pre-birth experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, 10 years, 10 years.
unidentified		If I had 10 years or say 12 years to go back, I would probably tell my father to invest in video games.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so you'd be a rich kid now.
unidentified		Yeah, over here, there's huge.
unidentified		And I don't know, but what time is it over there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's about 13 minutes before 2 o'clock in the morning.
unidentified		Oh, it's only about 11 over here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm hardly getting started over there.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		And another thing I wanted to say that, you know, like, books and everything, it takes so long to get everything over here, you know, from...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I mean, we had a lot of tourists come over here, and I was talking to one the other day, and he said that Stephen King's bestseller, number five, is out already.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And we've only got, like, number two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, it's a small price to pay for living in paradise.
unidentified		People don't really realize that, but a lot of things cost a lot of money over here.
unidentified		Like milk costs $5 and...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Milk costs...
		Wait a minute, wait a minute.
		Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
		That's a half gallon of milk for $5?
unidentified		No, it's a gallon of milk for $5.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Still a lot of money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me another example.
unidentified		Okay, like rent for a two-bedroom house would be $750.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean a two-bedroom house or apartment?
unidentified		Apartment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty steep.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, paradise ain't cheap.
unidentified		True.
unidentified		But I listen to you every night, and I just wanted to say hello and just give my example of what I would do if I went back in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not really going back in time.
		It's simply asking if you knew 20 years ago what you know now about life.
		Let's see, I forgot my own question.
unidentified		Here it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me get it out.
		I phrased it so well.
		What is it that you now know about life that you wish you knew 20 years ago?
		That is the precise question, actually.
		Somebody asked that of Sam Nunn on Meet the Press, and I thought, oh, man, what a cool question.
		Not that he answered it particularly well, but I thought, what a cool question for the audience.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Dylan from Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Dylan.
unidentified		I just want to, first of all, say a great show.
		Love it.
		I just started listening to it a couple weeks ago.
		Thank you.
		Fascinated.
		I heard Graham Hancock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I thought that was just an incredible show.
		I just had this, what if?
		What if the pyramid, well, he kind of hinted on it a little bit, was like a giant puzzle that is slowly setting itself into place.
		And as it sets itself into place, it releases some sort of wisdom, as it does naturally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's exactly what Graham was suggesting in his own way, that it is doing that.
		That we are close to the time when we are supposed to acquire that knowledge.
		I'm not sure we're ready for it right now, but on the other hand, maybe we need it to continue to survive.
unidentified		It just seems to me also at the time there's a large conscious awakening taking place, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, I don't want to give anything away, but it wouldn't surprise me that you're able to hear Graham Hancock again while I'm gone on vacation.
unidentified		Really, that would be.
unidentified		But do you think you might have him back, too, sometime?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If possible.
unidentified		I know he's going.
unidentified		He said something about going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's in Africa now.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I think we probably did the defining show with Graham while he was in this country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you'll get to hear that one again.
unidentified		I'd be interested to make sure, find out what's going on with the chambers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what we're going to find out shortly.
		As a matter of fact, folks, we will probably take both of the Hancock shows and combine them into one five-hour Graham Hancock spectacular.
		We might do that.
		I'm just, you know, I'm giving you hints of what might occur while I'm gone.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Joel from Minneapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing, Joel?
unidentified		Not bad, not bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just got a call from a guy wanting to know.
		He's moving to Minneapolis.
		And he wants to know where he can hear us in Minneapolis.
		So why don't you tell him?
unidentified		It would be KSTP AM 1500.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big, strong singer.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		I just got a comment on what I'd do 20 years from now or whatever.
		Oh, no.
		Everybody gets themselves screwed up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The question is, what is it that you now know about life that you wish you knew 20 years ago?
unidentified		Okay, same deal.
		If I knew 20 years ago, I'm 24 now.
		I'm going to be 24 in a couple days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		I would say, when I'm four years old, I would tell myself, listen to your parents.
unidentified		They're not as dumb as you think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, there's some wisdom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a truth, isn't it?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		I mean, I'm a dad now, too, and it's just like, oh, geez.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here I am, 24 and a dad.
unidentified		Trying to get through college.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that your children will have a better life than you have had or worse?
unidentified		I think a lot of it depends on me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, that's a good answer.
unidentified		And I hope that they have a better life than I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't ask about your hope, though.
unidentified		Well, I'm working to make sure that they have a better life than I do, but I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's another good answer.
		You're all right.
		You give me hope, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		And take care.
		Those are good answers.
		Those really are good answers.
		There's somebody with his head on straight.
		That's nice to hear.
		First-time caller line, you are upon the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is J.R. from San Francisco, first-time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This isn't the J.R. that got killed so long ago.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, okay.
unidentified		But I do have some information that might be of interest to you.
		Okay.
		You mentioned earlier about the possibility that the black boxes may have been discovered and just not disclosed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's what I suggested when I said it's not pinging anymore.
		It had new batteries.
		Now, why isn't it pinging?
		One answer might be because it's not there.
unidentified		Right.
		Well, I just happened to hear something on the news Friday.
		I don't know if anybody else heard it or mentioned it to you, but about 11 a.m. Pacific time on the news on the radio, I heard on, I believe, CBS that they had found one of the black boxes.
		They even said they weren't sure which black box it was, but they had found it.
		And then I never heard anything else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, there's been a lot of that kind of reporting, you know, Flash reporting one.
		I think these reporters are talking to each other if you want to know the truth.
unidentified		No, I can understand that, but I would have expected to hear somebody mention somewhere along the way that someone had made a mistake in reporting that.
		I never heard that.
		It's as if it had never been reported, and I know I heard it.
		I was very surprised when I heard on Larry King later that day that they were still looking for the black boxes.
		And it just surprised me that nobody had mentioned that it had been missing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a good point, sir.
		And the reporting on this has been all mixed up.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		All mixed up.
		Yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.
		I wish they could get that together.
		On my international line, you're on the air.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Art, I'm in Stockholm right now, Westminster, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg your pardon?
unidentified		I'm in Stockholm right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you're from California.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing in Stockholm?
unidentified		Well, I'm doing essentially the same thing.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		I think you're going to be leaving on in a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is correct.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		You're going to the Hermitage in St. Petersburg, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course I am.
unidentified		Of course.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're headed for a ferry boat today to Helsinki, and then we motorcoach to the Hermitage.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		And we're three nights in St. Petersburg to see the castle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that sounds so nice.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		I just wanted to tell you that when you get to Oslo, there's so much to do.
unidentified		I'm Tom.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		I live in Carmel, right near where you used to work in Salinas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed, yes.
unidentified		Oslo is a fun city.
		There's no traffic.
		The price of the petrol or the gasoline is so high that you don't have downtown traffic jams.
		Have you been there before?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, this is my first trip to Scandinavia, actually.
unidentified		My wife has a Norwegian father, so we go back to visit her cousins.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we had a report that about two or three weeks ago it was cloudy and raining, but I guess the weather has cleared across Scandinavia and is beautiful now?
unidentified		Yes, both in Stockholm and in Oslo.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		Over a week ago, they had an unseasonal cold spell, and it was awful.
unidentified		They were not prepared for it.
unidentified		Right.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		But now it's just been absolutely desirable for the last two weeks, and I think, or last week or ten days, and I think you're going to enjoy it.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		Well, I called this to wish you a good trip and a bon voyage.
unidentified		When do you leave?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I leave on, let me see here.
		I believe August 2nd.
		I think that's right.
		August 2nd.
unidentified		Okay.
robert m bowman ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe I can call you again from Helsinki after I've been to the Winter Palace and so forth and give you another picture.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please do, and I'm certainly glad you called.
unidentified		Thank you very much, Arthur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
		And, oh, gee, ask and ye shall receive.
		I'm hearing from the very area that I'm about to go to.
		Isn't that cool?
		All right.
		We're going to break here at the top of the hour.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was our goal hosting.
		On this, Somewhere in Time.
		All that love you've given me is conscience, I guess.
		If I was...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		That was nice.
		I just, I love it.
		What can I tell you?
		Gets me going.
		Here's somebody who writes, Dear Art, could you please tell us why you like the song, Flowers on the Wall?
		I don't know.
		He goes on, somehow I can visualize you laying awake in a motel along I-40 in Amarillo, counting flowers on the wall and agonizing about the lost love of a beautiful Texas girl.
		If it makes you feel any better, I've been there and done that.
		Motel 6, Amarillo.
		Her name was Cheryl.
		I figured there were about 40 flowers per square foot on the wall.
		That's Greg in Oklahoma City.
		Greg, I don't.
		I don't.
		Yes, I do have an answer for you, Greg.
		I like it.
		No, I don't have an answer.
		I really don't.
		It just sort of expresses my feeling of life somehow.
		And by the way, I have been there and done that.
		And they were twins.
		Their names were Linda and Glenda in Amarillo.
		Linda and Glenda.
		There's another secret from my past.
unidentified		I keep hearing your concerns about my method.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea why I like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, this is Tucson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I was wondering why you don't have, or don't ask Major Danes to take a look under the Sphinx for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because I didn't think of it when I had him on.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I will do that.
unidentified		How about maybe taking the course yourself and finding out when Art's parts were originally made?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because Major Danes are, oh, originally made.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And who actually made them and just hang out when the guy was doing it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a good point.
		I would like to take a remote viewing course, actually.
		And I may do that.
unidentified		Because that would be pretty cool to see when it was designed and its first testing and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have more testing to do, crystalline structure testing, and then some high-voltage Tesla testing that is just going to be incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we're being led down a very interesting path.
unidentified		Yeah, I'd definitely like to hear more about what's under the mountains in Santa Fe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, for that, we will have Courtney back.
		All right.
		Thank you.
		Courtney Brown was absolutely riveting, no question about it.
		And I took great care in the original broadcast to build the basis for what was coming.
		And as you probably heard, I kept steering Courtney away from releasing the information that I knew was coming too soon because it would not have been in the proper context or received well without an understanding of how he did what he did.
		So I laid a lot of groundwork.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you did.
unidentified		Amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Olympia, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I think your show is great.
unidentified		I really liked that Courtney Brown interview on Friday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that was good stuff.
unidentified		There was a book written by Brad Steiger in 1965.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's another guy I really like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had Brad on the air, and you will hear him while I'm on vacation.
unidentified		Great, great.
		Yeah, Courtney Brown, Brad Steiger, and Hoagland are just there.
		I can listen to those guys all day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Hoagland, Friday night, Saturday morning.
unidentified		Great, great.
		Brad Steiger wrote a book that was called In My Soul I Am Free, which dealt with soul travel, which appears very remarkable to just remote viewing.
		I guess they're just similar terms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They are, and it tracks to Robert Monroe, who I also got to interview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And coming up this week on Dreamland, this next Sunday, is going to be Dr. Michael Newton, author of Journey of Souls.
Personal Experiences Matter 00:00:58
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're not going to want to miss that.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And I've got the book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it a good book?
unidentified		I just bought it, but my wife's read it and said it's really good.
		But I personally have had several experiences with this.
		I mean, I got started with that in my free book and have been doing this for over 20 years and have had many, many experiences myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe if I had only read that and perhaps taken some of these courses, I wouldn't have to be taking TWA to Scandinavia.
Whatever Comes Back 00:05:18
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd just, you know.
unidentified		Zip up.
		I don't know.
		I think there's...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I meant to say zip over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zipping up is something else.
unidentified		But, you know, what you kind of keyed in on his talk was about morals or ethics of people getting into this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a very important question.
unidentified		Yeah, and it seemed clear to me that he was unaware of something that is a foundation of anything that deals with the matter, energy, time, and space.
		I guess in physics they call it action-reaction or what you do, so shall you reap, or in Eastern philosophy, karma.
		Karma.
		Whatever you do comes back to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or in the 60s, vibes.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all the same thing.
unidentified		But, yeah, whatever you do comes back to you.
unidentified		And if you misuse something, if you go out there and abuse something, everything has its equal and opposite reaction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		And the illusion is time.
		The illusion is we don't see the equal opposite.
		People think that somebody who gets away with, literally gets away with murder got away with it.
		Well, they don't.
		It's because the illusion of time is we don't see the reaction immediately, and therefore we assume that you can do things and not have to pay for them.
		But somewhere down the road, all of a sudden something happens to somebody out of the blue, so to speak, and there it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we should be all watching for O.J. Simpson to fall down a flight of stairs.
unidentified		Well, quite possibly we might see something in this lifetime with OJ, but it doesn't have to be a single lifetime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Watching him on the golf course is a little frustrating.
		This will just have to depend on ultimate karma.
		All right, I've got to run, sir.
		Thank you very much for the call, and you take care, and we will be back.
		Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Right on.
unidentified		How you doing, all right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
unidentified		Hey, I was at your website to check out those arch parts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And that's pretty cool.
unidentified		I have an interest in that lifting body technology they're talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would appear to be the direction we're headed.
unidentified		Yeah, the technology I was interested in is called charge particle separation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Have you heard of that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And as far as manufacturing capabilities, you're not going to get a lot of them talking about it, but I've done some research.
		And I believe the process they have used, the metals involved have used what's called super plasticity in alloys.
		Right.
		And the forefront of that area is a Mr. William Johnson from England.
		And he's written extensively over the years of manufacturing alloys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There were a few patents that apparently were received and papers published in the late 70s with regard to bismuth magnesium.
		Yes.
		And then everything went silent, and you can't find anything since.
		So something obviously was discovered and went down and dirty and dark some years ago.
		So we don't know what we've got on our hands.
		We will continue to test.
		Did you hear the report we did tonight?
unidentified		Yes, it was very interesting.
		It's very interesting.
		A colleague and me were discussing this, and I've been focusing on seeing things seem to be a pivot.
		I was looking at sputtering and PM, powder metallurgical, where they powderize the metal, and then they charge it, spray it through an atomizer, hit it with a plasma, and basically paint metal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is very much like that.
		It is a fascinating technology.
		Thank you.
		Fascinating how it is done.
		And that gentleman obviously is following it closely.
		We are obviously on to something here, folks.
		What we have is no common part from any common source.
		What we have is anomalous, weird.
		Nobody's made it.
		Nobody knows how to make it.
		Nobody understands what it would be for.
		And it is now clearly leading in a direction.
		Well, as a matter of fact, Richard Hoagland is going to have quite a bit to say about Arts Parts this coming Friday night, Saturday morning.
Debbie From Overland Park 00:15:44
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to want to miss that.
		It is weird to be in receipt of such materials.
		That's all I can tell you.
		It is also pain in the butt if you want to know the truth.
		In other words, not only is it expensive and difficult and worrisome, but it's a trail that you cannot not follow.
		So you, as Linda would tell you and has, you just have to keep going forward.
		And that is what we are doing, to wherever it's going to lead.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Debbie from Overland Park, Kansas.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
unidentified		Good.
		I just wanted to say thumbs up to you.
		I've listened to you all night.
		I've been trying to get through all night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You finally made it.
unidentified		I finally did.
		Probably the last call.
		I'm an ex-TWA employee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you are?
unidentified		I retired last year.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how many employees have called in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I actually, I talked to a TWA pilot last week, one who flew with the pilot who died in the crash.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		Well, many of my friends were lost there, too.
		So there were a lot of TWA employees on that flight.
		But, you know, just to stay with it, Art, I think it's wonderful because you'd probably be just as safe as you would be anywhere else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No question about it.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		I mean, seriously, it's becoming, I mean, even domestic flights, there have been three the last week that have had to pull back.
unidentified		I don't know if you're aware of that.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		American Airlines today had to pull back to Kansas City a half an hour out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		They had a cabin fire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		TWA lost an engine going into St. Louis yesterday.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		And United also had to back up and make an emergency landing in Kansas City last week.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		Kansas City has been very important this week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all of these things are happening now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm flying 10 days from now.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way I'm trying to look at this.
unidentified		Well, look at that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I also, by the way, have a tremendous amount of confidence in TWA.
		You should.
		I do.
unidentified		I mean, I have flown in Flight 800 many times.
		Really?
		Yes, I have.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		And I have probably flown in that 747.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		TWA is rated number one as far as maintenance on their aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I've heard.
unidentified		This is what scares me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think there was anything wrong with the maintenance at all.
unidentified		Oh, I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this thing was blown out of the sky, either by a bomb or by a missile.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		You know, on our news, I think it was the 4 o'clock news, they were saying that the boat rental place, have you heard that?
unidentified		Right in the bay there, rented a boat to two men.
		Oh.
		They rented the boat.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		These two men rented the boat who were kind of suspicious.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		And they returned the boat later at night and never collected their $66 deposit.
unidentified		But that's kind of interesting, too.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		You know, if there was anything like this, that they're also checking that one out.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		But that was on the news here in Kansas City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this whole thing is beginning to get very weird.
		The reporting on it is beginning to get very weird.
		And it all feels wrong right now to me.
		The black boxes, for example, they were pinging.
		They had brand new batteries.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They should still be pinging.
unidentified		They still should be pinging.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I would say one of the major reasons they might not be is because they might not be there anymore.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		They might not be there anymore, Art, or they may be very, very now sinking down into the muck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		I'm sure they can't hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, it's true.
unidentified		And that's very true.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		And also, you know, I hate to say it, but there are so many bodies stuck in there that they could also be corrupting it.
unidentified		It's horrible.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's the most, I have been through two airline accidents in my career.
unidentified		I worked for United before that.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, 21 years with one airline and 10 with another.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		And you just think, you know, you're airline people, and we're a very close family.
unidentified		I know.
		But it's a horrible thing.
		I've been through two of them.
		And it's just without a doubt.
		I mean, there's not an employee smiling this week.
		Trust me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I do.
unidentified		There really isn't.
unidentified		We are a family.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		More so, I think, than most businesses are.
unidentified		They really are.
unidentified		I mean, they all kind of stick together.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		But I just admire the fact that you're still sticking with us.
unidentified		And keep it up, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm really looking forward to the Triple Seven coming back.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		That's going to be wonderful.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		I took that non-stop from St. Louis to Frankfurt a few years back, and that's a really smooth flight.
bonnie crystal ▲ ● ▼		You can hear a pin drop at first class.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking forward to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Well, you have a wonderful trip, Art.
		Nice to talk to you.
		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really am looking forward to it.
		The 777 looks like a really interesting aircraft.
		So that'll be fun coming back on.
		And 747s are amazing aircraft, period.
		And I do.
		I have as much trust in TWA as you can imagine.
		And I wouldn't dream of changing it to any other airline.
		So that tells you about how I feel about TWA.
		And United is also right up there.
		Both of them, in my opinion, superior airlines with first-class maintenance.
		And there was not a damn thing wrong.
		I'll bet you, in the end, we'll find there was nothing wrong with TWA's maintenance.
		There was nothing wrong with that aircraft.
		Except that it got blown out of the sky.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Hey, how are you doing?
		I'm okay.
unidentified		Okay.
		Let's get right to it.
		Okay.
		I called you about six weeks ago and I was trying to tell you about this thing they had on Discovery Channel where they were showing their promos and they showed the landing of the moon and I could see the two domes.
		The very next day, they pulled that commercial off.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they must have heard you.
unidentified		They heard us.
unidentified		Okay, on the 12 monkeys?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		At the very end of the scene.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, don't you dare.
unidentified		You're not going to give it away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I know at the end scene, but you see, there are people who imagine that means that they would change it, that it never happened.
		And that's wrong.
		That's wrong.
		Because if you go earlier into the movie, the whole idea was to be able to go back and get something that would prevent a mutation.
		It wasn't going to prevent the occurrence of the death of those people.
		It was going to, they were going to be able to fix it so that in the latter years they could come back up to the surface of the earth.
unidentified		Right, but that's why that song by Satchmo is perfect for what that lady says.
		know it's it just fits in so perfect because i know okay Yeah.
		Okay.
		The one thing, if I could have my knowledge and what I know 20 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		20 years, yes.
unidentified		Definitely stay away from drugs and totally give my life to Christ.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you are.
unidentified		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for the call, sir.
		God bless America.
		Take care, indeed.
		For we need help from above at the moment, don't we?
		Imagine terrorism just for the sake of it.
		Not with any motive in mind.
		Not trying to affect a nation's policy, perverted as those ideas are with respect to the killing of innocent people.
		Not even for that.
		Just to terrorize people.
		I'll tell you something.
		They're a bunch of miserable, cowardly bastards, and they're not going to stop me from flying.
		And if they blow me up, it shouldn't stop you from flying.
		So that's just the way it is.
		It's an ill of the modern world.
		And we shouldn't let them win.
		And the only way they do win is if people become afraid, because that apparently is their goal.
		Well, I'm not going to be part of it.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from July 22nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This concerns Manson.
		Dear Art, I just heard you say that you believe Charles Manson to be an evil person based on television appearances you have seen.
		Try to consider that all televised interviews with Manson are carefully edited to make him appear to be crazy, evil, and so forth.
		I've spoken to Manson one-on-one for hours and hours and found him to be friendly, interesting, and respectful.
		Vincent T. Bugliosi has a vested interest in supporting the idea that Manson is a man to be feared.
		He has a book to sell, Helter, Skelter.
		Truth is, Manson is a human being, like any other.
		And the false idea of him as a crazy, evil monster is nothing more than a myth.
		This myth was largely created by Vincent Bugliosi and is perpetrated by the media, yourself included.
		You and Bugliosi have too much to lose by allowing the actual truth regarding Manson to be known.
		If the truth about him and his actual lack of participation in the infamous Tate Lapianca murders became public knowledge, Bugliosi and the countless media vampires would lose the best thing they've ever had.
		That'd be a symbol of evil.
		And you would be left unable to spend an evening of glad handing with Vincent Bugliosi.
		I expected more out of you than to dismiss Manson as an evil person based on what you've seen on TV.
		You should know that most of what's put on TV is a lie, pure and simple.
		The fact that this leads you reveals your own gullibility from James in Seattle.
		Get right, James.
		There are some things that even the editing floor of 60 Minutes cannot disguise, and that is the evil nature of Charles Manson.
		So I think if you think he's a warm and fuzzy human being, James, you are the one who has lost it.
		You are the one who is gullible.
		And I wouldn't know about your hours and hours of chatting with Charlie, but if you think this guy is a warm, fuzzy human being, then I don't know about you, James.
		And what he was able to project through that camera came through quite clearly.
		It's nothing that was achieved on the editing room floor of 60 Minutes.
		Don't you believe it?
		I swear, some people, unbelievable, just unbelievable.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Hello.
patrick s j carmack ▲ ● ▼		I heard you on the air talking about Charles Manson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
patrick s j carmack ▲ ● ▼		I have some info for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he's a warm, fuzzy human being?
unidentified		No, not at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear the facts I just read?
unidentified		Yes, sir, I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
patrick s j carmack ▲ ● ▼		But I do have this to say about him: that, well, my father is now 61, and when he was a teenager, he was in, well, he was in a school for boys.
		And because he joined the Arkansas National Guard and got away with it for about eight months before he got caught.
		And then he got caught and went to Gibralt School for Boys.
		Well, when he was there, I've heard this story several times from my dad.
unidentified		One of his fellow, I guess, inmates was Charles Manson.
patrick s j carmack ▲ ● ▼		And as a teenager, he always had a dictionary.
		And he was reading that book from, I guess, front to back.
		He was always studying the dictionary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the point?
unidentified		Well, the point is this, that he's, although he may be evil incarnate, he's not to be dismissed as well, how can we put this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Evil incarnate.
		Now, look, let's try the Limbaugh test on this, huh?
		Would you leave your daughter or son in a Motel 6 with Charlie Manson?
unidentified		Not at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have a good morning.
		On the first time, caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
unidentified		This is Felix.
unidentified		Hello.
john b wells ▲ ● ▼		Hi, I'm in Westchester, California.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I'm predicting about a 7.0 earthquake in the next 10 days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
john b wells ▲ ● ▼		Here, Southern California.
unidentified		I just have a premonition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		You just had the premonition?
		Yeah.
		Well, I'd say you could be correct.
		You know, you could always be correct.
		I mean, California has earthquakes.
		7.0.
unidentified		This would probably be on the Woody or Englewood Fault.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would be a rough one, all right.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		That would be a rough one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend, thank you.
		We will register your prediction.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		Hi.
		When you get Major Dames on again, or that other gentleman that does the remote viewing, ask them how you get out of the real-time timeline and get so you can look back or forward.
		I can do it in real time sometimes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, apparently it's a deeper, you know, it's a thing you've got to be taught.
		But I will ask about that.
		The image is even fainter yet.
		So I don't know the discipline in doing that, but it would be good to ask.
unidentified		Okay.
		Because if I choose the target real careful, I can make the jump.
		But I haven't been able to figure out how to do it outside of real time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good enough.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will ask.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
unidentified		This is Dan from Gardena.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You were talking about the Levitron.
dr j timothy green ▲ ● ▼		Are you familiar with the process of how it works?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vaguely so, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I read all their literature.
unidentified		With all the little magnets?
		Yes.
		Very strong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen it operate, sir?
unidentified		Right, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is amazing.
unidentified		Fantastic.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I tried it a couple of times myself.
unidentified		I don't have one, but.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what I've heard?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that if you put little, you know, on the magnets that actually levitate, if you put a little tiny anything on the edges of it, evenly, kind of like a balanced tire, and you have a fan or a very slight breeze running, you can keep it levitating for days.
Sitting There and Watching 00:06:42
unidentified		That's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dr j timothy green ▲ ● ▼		And I think, well, I just, you know, my postulation, but I believe on, it's based on a theory of chaos, you know.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		No, I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I did not know that.
dr j timothy green ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and if you can align all those magnets on both sides, you know, to where you have either a positive or a negative, that you will levitate it.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		And I've done it a couple of times, but it's very difficult.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is the eeriest thing in the whole world, folks, to sit there and watch this thing for minutes on end.
		I mean, without a fan.
		Just for minutes on end, sitting there in mid-air, spinning about, oh, I don't know, two or three inches above the base.
		Just sitting in mid-air.
		You can pass your hand under it.
		You can pass anything under it you want.
		It's sitting there levitating.
		It is magnetic levitation.
		We're advertising that on the weekend.
		For those of you that want the Levitron, one of these nights I had to run, well, I guess I can't just run hands.
		But you listen on Dreamland.
		We're advertising Levatron on Dreamland.
		It's amazing.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		It's off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
		Where are you?
		L.A. L.A.
		Well, good.
unidentified		Is this all right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I told you we were.
unidentified		My father and I are having a real disagreement, and I'm so tactful that I don't tell him how I disagree.
		He flies a great deal.
		He was in New York, and he was playing concerts on the beach in Long Island for five days.
		And he had a lot of time, he and the artist, to think about it.
		He said that the flight left late, 800, and that it went into LL, had a flight that was supposed to leave at the time when it was leaving.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It left one hour late.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		So my dad says that they thought it was an LL.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was one hour delayed, I guess.
unidentified		Is that possible?
		Why didn't we hear this in the media?
		That the natural target would have been an LL, not a TWA.
		Okay, but here's what I don't tell my father, because I don't want it.
		My father's having so much fun, and he wrote the New York Times his theory, is that when I was watching the day after it happened in the morning, Anna Garcia, she's the newslady from ABC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		She had a lot of clips.
		She was over there and she had clips with witnesses, one after the other.
		And the fourth witness she had was a fat guy of about 60.
		And he said, everyone else had said they saw the flash and then the fireball or that they'd heard the noise and turned around and seen the fireball.
		He said he was watching it fly.
		This is ABC, middle of the day.
		This is a witness.
		And that it was flying along and then it fell at a 45-degree angle.
		Then there was the white flash and then the orange fireball.
		And I was, oh, my goodness.
		Well, that kind of proves it was a TWA situation.
		See, I'm way different from what my father says.
		And then they never had that on ABC again.
		That witness never came back.
		I watched all day, 6 p.m., 11 p.m., and I watched Nightline.
		And we never saw that fat guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a lot of things that have been on one time, according to people like yourself, and then never back again.
		So I don't know what to make of that.
		And I'm beginning to wonder what to make of all of this period.
unidentified		Yeah, but other people did mention the LL thing that it was leaving in the slot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you.
		Appreciate that.
unidentified		Back to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We go.
		Oh, by the way.
		As you know, I don't do TV.
		I don't do television, but I am going to do a newspaper interview today.
		The RJ Review Journal is coming out to interview me today.
		And I sort of enjoy that.
		I enjoy newspaper interviews.
		I don't know why.
		And I don't know why I don't like TV.
		Yes, I do.
		Yes, I do.
		So I do an occasional newspaper interview, and they are the local newspaper here.
		So that will be coming out.
		You all can watch for that.
		Those of you who get the Las Vegas Review Journal, they're coming.
		It's been, what, about a year, year and a half, something like that.
		So they will come back out and re-interview me.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good morning, Earth.
		This is Adam calling from Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Okay, how are you this morning?
		Fine.
		This is also Adam Warren on the internet.
		I'd just like to say hello to all my friends out there.
		I've got a question.
		I had a few questions here, but I'm going to narrow it down to one because of time.
		I've been asked this question probably about three or four times in the past week, but you have a picture, or you have pictures from the book of Charlie and Doc, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do, yes.
unidentified		Would it be possible for you to maybe scan them in and email them to Keith so he could put them up on the webpage?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be possible, but I'm not going to do it.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're in my book.
		You want to see them?
		Buy my book.
unidentified		Actually, I have your book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you've seen them.
unidentified		Well, for the people that haven't seen them, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		You know, because there have been people that are like, well, I want to see what Charlie and Doc look like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that's one secret I hold, so people will be forced to buy my book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
unidentified		Well, thank you.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, everybody knows about the IRC chat channels and the undernet.
		But what you guys don't know is where I spend all my time.
		I spend all my time on the side net.
		The new side net.
		Any of you know about that?
		Probably not.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes.
		Hello, Art.
		Love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		First time I've finally gotten through, Gee, actually, this is Nathan in Bristol.
		And we're off the air with you right now.
		WXBQ is.
		Bristol.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bristol, Tennessee.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		All right.
		Got an awesome story for you.
		All right.
		Okay, back where I'm from in Dickinson County, Virginia, there are a lot of rural roads, lots of curves and stuff.
Child's Nightmares of a Guardian Angel 00:05:13
unidentified		My wife's nephew, five years old at the time, lived with his family right in a big old curve back at the foot of the hillside, and a lot of coal was hauled out of there in 10-wheel and 18-wheel trucks.
		Okay, the child had been waking up in the middle of the night, coming to his parents and telling them there was a little girl in his bedroom.
		And they kept saying, oh, don't worry about it.
		You know, there's nobody in there.
		You're just having a dream or whatnot.
		And countless times he kept doing this.
		They never heeded to it, never checked, just, you know, tell him he was having a nightmare and going back to bed.
		Yes, sir.
		Okay, one morning, about 6 a.m., they hauled coal quite early that morning.
		He came into his mother's bedroom and said, the little girl told me I better come sleep with you.
		And she said, now, Cody, go on back to bed, go on back to bed.
		Everything's going to be all right.
		He wouldn't go back to bed.
		He refused to, so she let him sleep with her.
		And swear to God, 10 minutes later, a coal truck skipped off the curve, crashed right through his bedroom, and did about $10,000 worth of damage to their house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		I believe these things do occur.
		There's no question about it.
		It's precognition.
		It's a guardian angel.
		It's whatever you want to call it, but it does happen.
		And anybody who denies it is just flat out wrong.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call, sir.
		Bristol, Tennessee.
		These warnings do occur.
		Some people will say it was my guardian angel.
		Some will simply call it precognition or a psychic insight.
		Whatever you want to call it.
		I don't care.
		These things do occur.
		It has happened to me one time.
		So, my whole life, once.
		But there was no question about it.
		It wasn't an iffy situation.
		I knew.
		I saw an event, and I knew an event was coming before it occurred.
		In fact, it was like the only way I can describe the feeling was it was like waves washing over me.
		Irresistible, strong, and they continued to get stronger until the event occurred.
		I mean waves just washing over me, one after another after another, telling me this was about to happen.
		I've told this story a few times on the air one of these days.
		I'll tell it again.
		But these things do occur.
		You put whatever name on them you want.
		Walcart line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		Hello.
		Josh in Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Josh.
unidentified		I had just a few quick points.
unidentified		The first being on your comments about Charles Mason being evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Manson.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		The Funkin' Wagnall dictionary defines evil as causing injury or any other undesirable result.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That fits.
unidentified		And I thought it did, so thought I'd give you a call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But there are also degrees of evil.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And on a scale of 10, in my estimation, I don't care what this guy says.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's at 10.
unidentified		At least.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And the second point I had was on your question, if I knew 20 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you knew 20 years ago what you know now.
unidentified		Right.
		It was two major things come out would be watch how much you spend.
		It doesn't seem to cost so much when you're using plastic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a truth.
unidentified		And never start smoking.
		Yeah, that's also a truth.
		Have it really hard to give up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		Boy, do I know.
		Thank you.
		And I have not yet given up.
		I've tried.
		Now, I'm not going to be able to smoke on the airplane.
		TWA is not going to let me smoke, coming or going.
		Actually, that'd be going or coming.
		So it's the patch for the kid.
		There's one good thing about the patch, though.
		It makes me sleepy.
		And it works, doesn't make me, I don't fully not want a cigarette, but it does work, sort of.
		But I am not looking forward to all those hours patched up, so to speak.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		I just have a vote to put in that you should take up remote viewing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You too, huh?
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Most definitely.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I think you would be a great study and would report back to us the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would do that.
		I'd have to think about it.
		It's very intriguing, and it's like one of those things I would like to try, but I'd need to think about whether I really want to know the things I would see.
Something Listened In 00:01:50
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		I'd put up with reruns for two weeks while you did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you would, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're about to put up with reruns for two weeks anyway.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		It'll be fun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		Yes, actually, it will.
		And they are not going to be just any reruns, but just wait till you see what the network has for you.
		It's going to be a delightful two weeks, actually.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Vince and Metver.
tim in denver ▲ ● ▼		Where?
unidentified		Metver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Vince.
unidentified		Is Arbell?
unidentified		Okay, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody else here, Vince.
unidentified		On the subject of Charles Manson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I used to have a record album.
		It came out like a couple years before the murders of Charles Manson playing acoustic guitar with these songs.
		I just wondered if anyone heard that.
		I've been looking for the album again because I guess he brought an album.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would that be?
		Charlie's angelic tuneful renditions, I guess, huh?
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, this is Russ in San Jose, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Real good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's the Bay Area this morning?
unidentified		Well, it finally cooled off and got back down to its third day of, you know, it gets hot for a couple days in the Bay Area winds and the fog comes in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's actually been very unusually hot in the Bay Area.
unidentified		Yeah, we broke a few records, but we can always count on it cooling down before too long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, I hate to say this, but you have come on at the end moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The program is about over.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
unidentified		I just wanted to say that the other night when Courtney Brown mentioned about the Russian psychic being picked up by somebody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was something, wasn't it?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Listen, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, listen to me.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Show's over.
		Say you get the honor.
		Say all right.
unidentified		Good night, America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it, folks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and all over.

Chapters

00:00:11 Duke's Concerns
00:14:57 Best Question Ever Heard
00:24:49 Improvement on a Cellular Level
00:28:24 Palmer, Alaska Dreams
00:35:21 Anomalous Ions Emitted
00:50:59 Twa Flight 866 Concerns
00:57:57 Something Really Weird
01:08:53 Flying Saucer Quarter
01:24:25 Psychic Vampire Memories
01:32:14 Bathroom Revelation
01:35:46 Comparing Cellular Phones
01:41:44 Trace Elements and Training Ops
01:43:53 Graham Hancock's Pre-Birth Secrets
01:59:13 Personal Experiences Matter
01:59:56 Whatever Comes Back
02:05:00 Debbie From Overland Park
02:20:29 Sitting There and Watching
02:26:56 Child's Nightmares of a Guardian Angel
02:31:55 Something Listened In