June 14, 1996 - Art Bell
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| Email from the major, I can't recall what it was, some weeks ago, actually. | ||
| You know, I got something, I have something called arts parts that were sent to me, ostensibly pieces of the crashed Roswell saucer. | ||
| And we've been putting them through a rigorous scientific testing. | ||
| As a matter of fact, the results, very anomalous results of that testing, are available to be seen on my webpage now. | ||
| And it's remarkable material, bismuth and magnesium layered in a way that has a lot of people jumping. | ||
| I don't want to get too far out of the game right now. | ||
| And some of the aluminum parts and the spectrophyl and the scanning microscope pictures are all up on the internet. | ||
| It's www.artbell.com. | ||
| www.artbell.com. | ||
| And I suspect, if not already, and I know Keith, so he's probably got a link to the major's webpage already as well up there. | ||
| So you'd be well to visit my webpage and take a look. | ||
| The complete scientific report is there. | ||
| But I got a piece of email from the major not long ago, a couple weeks, three weeks ago, and you just mentioned in an offhand way, Major, that you had had your team for practice or for fun or for whatever reason working on my Roswell parts. | ||
| Yes, we actually do that. | ||
| My trainees, I train 20 people a year in this in-between contract work that we do. | ||
| And I used your metallic object, metallic pieces, as training targets. | ||
| Well, I want to know. | ||
| I have some preliminary results, but it will cost you one of those Art Bell watches. | ||
| How's that for effort? | ||
| It can easily be erased. | ||
| Only kidding. | ||
| Actually, let me tell you what I assumed that we were dealing with. | ||
| And when my students are trained, they are not told what their targets are. | ||
| They're trained in the blind. | ||
| Their unconscious is trained to do the work. | ||
| It's similar to flying a plane at night. | ||
| You have to rely on your instruments, and you really can't, if you do not know how to read those instruments, the analogy here is if you do not understand the structure of remote viewing, you're going to slip off the target. | ||
| Trainees are not allowed to graduate until they can get it right every single time. | ||
| So as advanced training targets, day six or seven, I slipped a few trainees' arts parts. | ||
| When we do this, I've never seen those parts on your web page. | ||
| So I simply, I actually called them that. | ||
| And pieces, metallic pieces, and I called them in italics arts parts. | ||
| The collective unconscious can do the rest. | ||
| We know that it can. | ||
| But some interesting results. | ||
| I assumed as a former project officer for very secret projects, both aerospace and metallurgical, that we were probably dealing with scrap parts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Scrap electronic parts or something like that. | ||
| As project manager, I had many scientists working for me, university professors and industrialists, and they would be making things that I needed on the battlefield in space or somewhere else. | ||
| And I'd bring pieces of those back to my office. | ||
| All of us who were in positions similar to I had things like this, Gugas and Doodads, on our office. | ||
| Sometimes we'd even bring them home, unless they were radioactive. | ||
| And many times these projects failed if a corporation, say the Alcoa Corporation, had a classified contract with the government to build something, to make some new sheet metal. | ||
| And that didn't work out right because it was penetrated by a tungsten bullet or something like that. | ||
| Then this metal became scrap. | ||
| I felt that that's what you were dealing with. | ||
| Another case, something that's interesting to point out, the Russians, the former Soviets, their metallurgy was sometimes far superior to U.S. metallurgy. | ||
| Don't forget, they were making titanium submarines, behemoths, that we could not produce. | ||
| So keep that in mind as we talk about this. | ||
| I did, as the results started to come in, and these are initial results. | ||
| But I do want to talk about them. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The parts are actually land-based, earth-based. | ||
| They're not alien. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But their story is very interesting, and I think I'll illustrate it with a story. | ||
| Let's call the story hypothetical for the moment. | ||
| A certain scientist, who I might know, is approached one day with some pieces similar to Art's parts. | ||
| And he is asked, how have you gotten a hold of alien technology? | ||
| And the scientist says, well, I don't have alien technology. | ||
| Well, we are looking at your blueprints for a specific thing that you submitted to the patent office, specific set of parts. | ||
| And this happens to be the same thing that crashed in the desert about 1950, alien spacecraft. | ||
| And the scientist says, well, no, I designed this myself. | ||
| Well, Art's parts are about 16 years young. | ||
| This is from a prototype vehicle that slipped back in time. | ||
| Art's parts are from a time machine. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah, it's about 11 or 12 years out there. | ||
| In fact, we can even become aware of the actual scientists that are working on that today. | ||
| How's that for a paradox problem? | ||
| This is a series of vehicles that the military team that I ran started to perceive about 1984, 85. | ||
| We started to gain information on these things that essentially, let me make sure that this picture is set in your listeners' minds. | ||
| A group of scientists about 10 years from now, perhaps less, happened to test a prototype design which is spinning. | ||
| And this is very important. | ||
| I'll get back to this in a moment, some of the physics of how this happened. | ||
| This device, instead of going up and out into space, disappears. | ||
| And it flies about 200 miles from its test point in the southwest desert and crashes about 50 years earlier In the desert. | ||
| Now, the people that find this about 1950, the individuals that find it, Cordonoff the area, and this was not a Roswell crash, by the way. | ||
| Roswell was alien. | ||
| This was not. | ||
| I'll get to that some other time. | ||
| They find these pieces, and they automatically assume, because it's probably four generations of technology ahead of anything they had in 1950s, that it's alien. | ||
| Must be, right? | ||
| Metallurgical. | ||
| But they hold on to it until one day somebody notices that a design that a certain scientist is submitting to the patent office matches this. | ||
| So it must be alien, right? | ||
| The metallurgical processes that you see in front of you and on the screen are really not that far from what we can do now. | ||
| If we really wanted to put the money into it, we could produce the kinds of pressures that would be necessary to produce the kind of density and those kinds of alloys. | ||
| It could be done, and I'm sure technicians have said as much, but they're not here yet. | ||
| It's slipped back. | ||
| Well, this bismuth piece of the supposed skin of the craft, whatever kind of craft it is, while it could be done, I don't think it has been done. | ||
| We've had people checking very carefully. | ||
| Nobody's done it. | ||
| They don't know what it could be. | ||
| Some sort of superconductor or collector of energy on the skin of a craft of some kind. | ||
| So what you say could be. | ||
| It's about another generation out there of technology. | ||
| And it just looked back. | ||
| I want to illustrate how this first event occurred. | ||
| In phenomenology, there's an occasional report of when a tornado passes by a certain place, that later people find pieces of straw and sometimes wood right through a glass window. | ||
| The window supposedly fused around the straw. | ||
| It just so happens that the vortex that's created by tornadoes, when the tornado turns a specific way at a certain angle, depending on where it is, does something with time. | ||
| Bends, which shifts time, slows it down as the Earth is turning, and the Earth turns into this place where two things begin to share the same space. | ||
| Then the tornado moves away, and now they do share the same space. | ||
| This spinning, this vortex, and the angle of the vortex is very important to this discovery. | ||
| Time travel, of course, as we know it now, at most physicists state, would require an energy equivalent to a black hole to affect. | ||
| Could be done, but you need that. | ||
| It's not within our tech base to do it. | ||
| And yet, it does seem to be a little trick that nature plays at certain times. | ||
| And one of these prototype devices fell into that trick and slipped back. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And that's where my parts came from. | ||
| It would appear that your parts fit a class of objects that we in my company know to be those things, yes. | ||
| Time travel, by the way, is quite a real thing out there in the cosmos as far as we're concerned. | ||
| You know, having had 15 years of experience looking at things for NASA and NORAD that they don't talk about. | ||
| Vehicles, races that use time travel and teleportation, they need time standards, as you know. | ||
| If you're traveling along a gravity wave or along a gravity surface and you pop in somewhere, you need to know not only where you are, but what time it is. | ||
| And so pulsars and things similar to pulsars are used as a galactic time standard, if you will, to know when you are rather than just where you are, in addition to where you are. | ||
| Crop circles, for instance, are specifically used for on-the-ground registration marks. | ||
| The crop circles that we talk about, they're so enigmatic to most people. | ||
| For us inside tech, we know what they are. | ||
| They're purposely put in perishable media, ephemeral media, to last only one day so that you know on the ground, right there in a local environment, a tactical environment, if you will, what day it is. | ||
| So that when you transit time again and you see that specific crop circle that's in a registration book of some type, you know what day you are in. | ||
| Because you know that in that book, on that specific day, some registration vehicle made that market. | ||
| It's not a vehicle, it's actually a small globe. | ||
| We will make that site tech contract available to the public via our Transition 3000 website in the future. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let us understand then. | ||
| Remote viewing does time travel of its own, in a sense. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| Time drops out of the equation. | ||
| Mind is outside of time. | ||
| There is no time in the collective unconscious. | ||
| If I look at Art Bell's life as a remote viewer, a technical remote viewer, I see you from birth to death and points in between. | ||
| There is no time there. | ||
| You are a gestalt of information, a pattern of information resonant in this collective unconscious. | ||
| That's not to say you don't have a soul or personality. | ||
| Of course you do. | ||
| But in terms of information, this is an information collection technology. | ||
| And there is no time involved. | ||
| We look left to see the past or right to see the future, metaphorically speaking, and we just download information. | ||
| Well, we know of the pastor of the future. | ||
| And the last time you care how to meet everybody else as you can reach. | ||
| And now, it was just three days ago. | ||
| It was on the news, Major. | ||
| How much of a please say our false wrong, or may have been wrong, that our climate is much more tenuous, much more fragile than we ever thought it was. | ||
| They went way beyond that. | ||
| They said there is a significant possibility, they now believe, that we may be headed toward what they called another dust bowl, or even went beyond that, and said they can see our plain states, our farm states becoming deserts. | ||
| Not only that, but that that process is actually underway right now. | ||
| And that's a frightening, frightening possibility. | ||
| And the moment I saw it, I almost fell off my couch. | ||
| And I got a lot of other facts of the same sort. | ||
| Hearkening back to what you said, what you see coming. | ||
| Now, about 10 years ago, that's quite some time ago, while you were working on other projects, you said you saw babies dying. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| The military team, actually, again, as training officer, I would provide the team with advanced training targets. | ||
| Actually, I was slipping in an enigma. | ||
| I did not want my team to fall into an ennui, to become bored with just working military research institutes and facilities. | ||
| And I wanted to make sure that they had a wide variety of targets. | ||
| So I would slip targets like this under their noses. | ||
| Same way they got arts parts. | ||
| The same way, yes, essentially that kind of thing. | ||
| And we were picking up, we were looking into the future, and we were looking at certain things, and in ways that we do. | ||
| I don't want to get into all the technologies tonight, but the team was describing and sketching dying babies over wide areas. | ||
| And we traced back the source of the dying babies, and they were cows, cow's milk. | ||
| Cow's milk was killing dying babies. | ||
| And in later years, actually about four years ago, I had sites that take a look at the cause, the causal agent behind that. | ||
| And it appears to be a virus in the milk. | ||
| We think it's a bovine AIDS. | ||
| We're not positive about that, but we think that it is. | ||
| Something like a bovine AIDS that's transmitted by dairymen's needles, the same needle that's used to inject each cow. | ||
| An immune problem of some kind. | ||
| With the babies, yes. | ||
| We think that a planet's immunosuppressed, babies are immunosuppressed, their mothers are immunosuppressed, and now all of a sudden they are toxicologically insulted with a virus that's similar to AIDS and just wreaks havoc with this nascent immune system of theirs. | ||
| And we do see human babies dying in droves. | ||
| Droves. | ||
| Worldwide. | ||
| Worldwide, yes. | ||
| Any country where babies drink cow's milk, and that's a lot of countries. | ||
| That's a lot of countries. | ||
| I guess I've got to ask, do you come up with numbers? | ||
| Is there any way to know percentages? | ||
| We can't come up with numbers. | ||
| We can come up with pie chart types of percentages. | ||
| Alphanumerics and numerics are beyond their capabilities, but we can get rough figures. | ||
| And we haven't done that in this case with any country in this specific case. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| So many. | ||
| Yes, many. | ||
| Are you able to look then beyond that to see if that is alleviated or the situation worsens or how society deals with this? | ||
| We have not looked at anything and that we have not looked at the situation beyond that. | ||
| I do not know if there are any ameliorating factors or mitigating factors vis-a-vis that particular problem. | ||
| So I don't have that information. | ||
| How far off is it? | ||
| Oh, it looks like it's within the next several years. | ||
| We're coming up real close. | ||
| One of the things that SciTech is doing now is establishing milestones along a timeline so that when one event occurs, people will know what the next one is and the time between them so that they can prepare. | ||
| Prepare, meaning take your babies off of cow's milk, start digging under the ground because the heavy winds are coming, move from one area to another because you'll have no fresh water, those kinds of things. | ||
| I guess you can look right to the future and left to the past. | ||
| Is it possible the past, of course, is known. | ||
| It's a known quantity. | ||
| So I would think that as you look into the past with your trainees, with your residents, you can calibrate what you do to the left, can't you? | ||
| We can get distances and yeah, we can get distances in time for unknowns, for instance. | ||
| If you give me something and you don't know what time it was fabricated, what era or age, we can establish that. | ||
| What I'm referring to, though, is, and we're at the bottom of the hour here, there are known events in time, in the thread of time. | ||
| As you look back, you can calibrate what you see. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| That's what I wanted to know. | ||
| You can bracket the event. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Major, stay right there. | ||
| We'll be right back to you, Major. | ||
| Ed Dames, SciTech Ed Dames is with me. | ||
| He'll be right back. | ||
| Back now to Major Ed Dames. | ||
| Major, so you can look to the left. | ||
| You can calibrate with history. | ||
| And then let us now again look to the right. | ||
| Again, hearkening back to what ABC ran about the farm belt scared the hell out of me. | ||
| Then I've got an Omaha Daily Herald story here that says a longer look at plains climate suggests an unsettling possibility. | ||
| And they go into exactly the same thing here. | ||
| Now, one of the things you said to me in the facts you sent that got us going in the last show was that the jet stream is going to come down on deck. | ||
| And the jet stream, of course, wriggles and riffs all over the place. | ||
| But you say it's going to come down on deck and there will be winds of between, what, 150 and 300 miles an hour on land? | ||
| Well, watch the jet stream. | ||
| It's a really good indicator for how chaotic the atmosphere is going to quickly become. | ||
| And it may not come all the way down to the deck, but it'll come close enough to furnish us with some very heavy-duty microbursts and some vicious storms. | ||
| High, high, very serious winds. | ||
| You'll need to be underground or in very solid structures when this happens. | ||
| But moreover, the skies will become very dark over the mid-latitudes where these winds are high. | ||
| And that's going to preclude growing crops the way we do now. | ||
| And there'll be no light. | ||
| That's what got to me about what ABC said. | ||
| I mean, we're already on the way. | ||
| We have crops in serious trouble. | ||
| Our wheat crop in the country now is in very serious trouble. | ||
| Cattle are being sold off, pennies on the dollar. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| And this is, I guess, just the beginning? | ||
| It's just the beginning. | ||
| We've essentially damaged the Earth's stratosphere, the Earth's atmosphere beyond repair. | ||
| There is not just a big ozone hole. | ||
| What scientists generally are not aware of is that there's a deterioration of the upper levels of the Earth's atmosphere now in a fashion very similar to metastasis, to cancer that's eating away at the upper levels of the atmosphere. | ||
| There aren't any remedial actions that are good enough at this juncture. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| So that's why it's so grim. | ||
| How soon? | ||
| Now, we're looking at high winds beginning in about four and a half to six years. | ||
| As I mentioned last time we spoke, it'll take, so I think about another year to complete our study. | ||
| And weather changes already are beginning, as you know. | ||
| A year ago they started. | ||
| We're going to see bacteriological changes here quickly. | ||
| Oh, you know what's interesting? | ||
| You should mention that because another news story that popped up a couple of days ago on Reuters was our government has suddenly cut loose with about $250 million, a quarter billion dollars, to establish 12 early warning centers for new disease around the world, Major. | ||
| There's a quarter billion dollars, serious amount of money to cut loose with in times like these. | ||
| Early warning centers for disease, and they're going to be looking for new stuff popping up. | ||
| And I said at the time, these guys have got to know something we don't. | ||
| Well, I worked with those guys, and most of them are virologists. | ||
| Unfortunately, viruses get most of the money these days. | ||
| But there are other things, other changes. | ||
| Bacteria, people, there's a lot of species of bacteria. | ||
| They mutate a little bit faster than viruses. | ||
| And we are not going to be, we as civilized industrial nations are not going to be able to keep up with the kinds of epidemics and pandemics that spring up. | ||
| We're not going to be able to produce vaccines fast enough. | ||
| They're going to outrun our ability to research them and chase them with vaccines. | ||
| So we're looking at epidemics and pandemics, too. | ||
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| Have we overused antibiotics? | ||
| Is that the problem? | ||
| Or is there another profound change that's coming, even beyond that problem? | ||
| As far as we know in the company, it appears that it's an environmental problem, that the environment has so stressed the organisms, the bacteria, that they're subject to greater numbers of mutations. | ||
| Ozone alone, for instance, I mean, ionizing radiation when it hits us may produce skin cancer or melanoma. | ||
| But ionizing radiation when it hits a single-celled animal, that's metastasis at best. | ||
| And a lot of mutations. | ||
| Lots of mutations, much more than has been the case in the last few millennia. | ||
| So you're saying that what is occurring to our upper stratosphere, atmosphere, is like a cancer that once begun is going to eat everything alive before it's done. | ||
| No, what I'm saying is that I just use that as an analogy. | ||
| There's many holes. | ||
| The atmosphere is deteriorating. | ||
| There are lots of holes that will begin to appear, small ones, letting not just one large ozone hole over the poles. | ||
| And that has gone unnoticed so far. | ||
| Well, I know that they've documented thinning of ozone across North America, for example, somewhere between, I'm trying to remember now, 3 and 7%, something like that, that will account for X number more, skin cancer, and so forth and so on. | ||
| Really quite serious. | ||
| But you're talking about additional actual holes. | ||
| Yes, I'm talking about a lot of scattered shotgun quilt work, patchwork type of holes in the ozone layer. | ||
| I'm not certain that everybody realizes how serious this is. | ||
| Life could not have begun on Earth until that ozone layer was in place. | ||
| Every time amino acids came together to bond, bam. | ||
| They were hit by, without the ozone layer to protect them. | ||
| They hit by ionizing radiation, and the links are broken up. | ||
| So that had to be in place before life could begin. | ||
| And it needs to be in place if life is to continue. | ||
| We're not going to evolve as a race, maybe we're not meant to, unless we survive. | ||
| Are we going to be able to continue to live above ground or are we going to have to abandon above ground life? | ||
| Above-ground structures will have to be made. | ||
| This is why research like Biosphere 2 is important and those kinds of hermetically sealed units. | ||
| We need, first of all, first and foremost, some type of a habitat to grow crops in, a very large habitat. | ||
| My company has actually sketched these kinds of habitats that will be used to grow crops. | ||
| These crops will be protected by high winds and will have enough light so that food can be produced by humans. | ||
| And eventually these habitats for plants will become templates for cities, similar to Biosphere 2. | ||
| It's important that we start these kinds of projects now so that the technologies can mature, so that we work the bugs out by the time we really need to migrate into these. | ||
| Below-ground structures and above-ground structures are going to be necessary. | ||
| But let's talk about numbers. | ||
| I can understand you could do such a thing, grow crops even under those conditions, harsh as they would be. | ||
| But numbers, Major, even under the best of conditions with a crash program, right now America feeds itself and a good part of the world. | ||
| Well, we used to. | ||
| Up until this year. | ||
| Yeah, without our farm belt, Major, and with what you envision, the numbers of people that could be fed would be astonishingly smaller at best. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I used to be called Dr. Doom at the White House for other reasons, and I don't perpetrate necessarily that appellation, so I'm not going to get into numbers right now. | ||
| I mean, I am saying that there will be despeciation and rapid rates. | ||
| Yeah, I can read between the lines very easily. | ||
| You think that it's in some ways better off that people don't know all of or how the scale of this I think it's difficult for the everyday person now enough without me prophesying, if you will, the kinds of numbers that we see in-house. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Here's something from our last interview. | ||
| After you had said most of what you've said now, not all of what we just heard, I said, well, what about you? | ||
| There you are in, where are you? | ||
| You're in Beverly Hills, of all places. | ||
| And I said, so what are you going to do personally? | ||
| And you said, well, I'm moving west and south. | ||
| And I said, to an island? | ||
| And you said, something like that. | ||
| And this was, and I said, well, gee, West, in the water, not identifying specifically where your company was going to go. | ||
| But when you gave other people advice, you told them, go north. | ||
| And so it hit me later, you're telling the population to go north, but you're saying we're going south and west. | ||
| Could you clarify that for us? | ||
| There's actually a number of different places we've looked at that are sanctuaries. | ||
| I happen to be heading toward some islands, yes. | ||
| But we know that Switzerland, the Swiss Alps, and that area is also a sanctuary. | ||
| And I'll give you the reasons why. | ||
| Very high mountains and very deep canyons protect against hard winds. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They also have snowpack and glaciers, which provide a good source of water, you know, unknown quantity. | ||
| And water is going to be a real problem. | ||
| So and then the other reason is those climates are cold, generally speaking. | ||
| Cold enough so that these bacteria remain fairly dormant in those environments because I am telling you that bacteriological mutations are going to be a real big problem. | ||
| It's nature carrying out bacteriological warfare against us, like Mother Nature or the Earth administering antibiotics to itself, antibio. | ||
| And we may be the disease in this case. | ||
| Yeah, it's very close to what the Native Americans believe, that Earth is almost a living entity and that we have insulted Earth and continue to insult Earth. | ||
| And in fact, you're saying we have insulted Earth to the degree that it's too late. | ||
| I think, yes, that's correct. | ||
| I remember once years ago, I found a pelican on the beach with its sitting very still, a brown pelican. | ||
| And I picked it up and it bit me a few times. | ||
| I put it in the trunk of my car. | ||
| I felt really bad for it because it was covered with ants, small ants. | ||
| And I took it to a vet, and the vet called me up and said, hey, we dusted the pelican with, it was just with a powder, an antibiotic powder, and it's fine now. | ||
| It was just sick. | ||
| And all of a sudden I realized that it knew to land and have those ants eat the lice that were attacking it, these mites that were attacking the bird. | ||
| If it stood very still, the ants would naturally pick off the lice and eat them, and the pelican could fly away. | ||
| So I actually prevented the pelican from continuing this process. | ||
| And it reminded me of the situation, the state of affairs, vis-a-vis the Gaia or Solaris, whatever you want to call Mother Earth. | ||
| Well, I've had a number of Native Americans on this show and on Dreamland. | ||
| And chillingly, they have predicted big wins. | ||
| And I'm sure you've heard some of that, but I wonder, have you consulted with Native Americans? | ||
| Have you traded any information with them or are you? | ||
| No, never. | ||
| We really rely on our own methods for this. | ||
| And years ago, we were picking up winds. | ||
| It took us a long time by process of elimination and direct knowledge, because that's what remote viewing is, to ascertain where these winds were coming from. | ||
| I mean, we ran the gamut of G. Is this nuclear war? | ||
| Is it volcanic activity? | ||
| Is it a pole shift? | ||
| On and on and on. | ||
| And we could not find the answer until we popped up in the upper levels of the atmosphere and said, uh-oh, there's no atmosphere or it's chaos up here. | ||
| So we had to check and double-check our work. | ||
| Otherwise, I would not be telling you on the air. | ||
| Well, I would think that governments, the governments of the world, particularly in view of your track record and your history, would be more than a little interested in what you're saying tonight. | ||
| Have you had any contact? | ||
| A little. | ||
| A little. | ||
| But it's going to be, we're ahead of our time. | ||
| This kind of technology is just out of the closet. | ||
| It's young. | ||
| It'll be on the streets as soon as we can get it on the streets with as many young people as possible. | ||
| That's our target group, particularly high school kids and individuals in their 20s. | ||
| Our generation, we think, is a lost cause. | ||
| Not totally, but we're stayed in stoic, Art. | ||
| I'm your age or thereabouts, and we don't, old habits die hard. | ||
| They do. | ||
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| So you would advise people, move to colder climates, prepare, stow away food. | ||
| What advice would you give? | ||
| Another thing is a colder climate or an isolated islands are good, because islands are isolated, generally speaking. | ||
| They're isolated from a lot of traffic, hopefully. | ||
| A lot of human traffic, a lot of source of bacteria. | ||
| They're geographically isolated. | ||
| And if they get a lot of rain, then you've got fresh water. | ||
| If they have a lot of underground lava tubes or caves, then you have protection from high winds when they occur. | ||
| And they have a lot of sunlight because they're in lower latitudes. | ||
| They experience a lot of sun, and food can Grow very quickly, grow back quickly. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, if these winds descend on the central latitudes, then there will be climate changes elsewhere as a result of that. | ||
| And so areas that previously have not been able to grow food might be able to, or areas that have been arid will be wet, or what other changes will result from this? | ||
| Not sure. | ||
| Just storms, vicious storms and chaos. | ||
| I would not take too much of a chance in trying to predict what might change and where might change because there'll be no continuity for crop growing unless you get crops into a place where they're protected and the light is maintained and controlled. | ||
| Key phrase is chaos then. | ||
| Key phrase is survival. | ||
| We need to be able to plan for survival. | ||
| Food, growing food the way we do now is not survival oriented anymore. | ||
| So rather than worrying about storing food up and having a big cache of food, as people would be tempted to do, you're more inclined to advise people to devise safe and new ways to grow that food because you're going to have to last a long time. | ||
| Yes, as communities and as governments, responsible governments, yes, that's what I'm suggesting. | ||
| But that's based upon a technology that taxpayers paid for, which is still very, very unknown. | ||
| And in some circles, construed to be the occult. | ||
| So this is a hard sell on my part. | ||
| It's much easier for us to find unit bombers and things like that and convince people that it's real than it is to try to sell doom and gloom. | ||
| Well, I would think the people that know your track record, the people that you worked with, listening to this, their eyes must be getting wide and their heartbeat must be quickening. | ||
| That was an old BOI network consisting of captains of industry that did contract with the military-industrial complex. | ||
| Yes, many government officials are there too, many congressmen. | ||
| And so there is an audience for that kind of thing. | ||
| What bothers me is that of what you speak, all the first signs are already there. | ||
| For example, the hurricane season last year, the unending. | ||
| I watched the Weather Channel by the day. | ||
| And I've watched, but weather has been a hobby of mine for years. | ||
| I used to chase tornadoes. | ||
| And there are tornado boxes all over the place. | ||
| Tornadoes and tornadoes and tornadoes as I have never seen before across North America. | ||
| Again, the beginning of this, I take it. | ||
| Well, we're looking at first economic catastrophe here. | ||
| Let's face it, we're not going to have the money to be able to repair the kinds of damages that any more of these vicious storms will cause. | ||
| So our economy will be shot first before our infrastructure, the rest of our infrastructure. | ||
| It's going to get grim, particularly in the next four and a half to six years. | ||
| We're looking at very, very serious conditions environmentally. | ||
| Now, I saw somebody ask you on one of the programs that was on the videotape. | ||
| I think that might have been on the Discovery channel, The Real X-Files, The True Story of America's Psych X Files. | ||
| What they called it, The Real X-Files. | ||
| They said that, or they asked you, well, okay, then, why haven't you predicted the stock market? | ||
| Why haven't you predicted lottery numbers? | ||
| And your answer was that those are very small spikes in the future, and that they're much harder to read, and that you see the larger events much more clearly. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Very clearly. | ||
| Our students early in the game can take a look at large earthquakes, volcanism, those kinds of things quite easily. | ||
| Because the event's happening now, it's a huge event. | ||
| All of us are events, really. | ||
| But that's an event that geological, geophysical events are very big. | ||
| It's as if our unconscious is alerting us, for survival reasons, to be on the lookout for these kinds of things. | ||
| Like maybe we're tuned into cataclysms of a geophysical nature more than we are other things. | ||
| But that's just speculation on my part. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Not speculation is something we're going to talk about next. | ||
| And as you know, I live adjacent to, in fact, we have the closest broadcast facility to an area called Area 51. | ||
| It has been the object of great fascination for American people for a very long time. | ||
| And you know something about Area 51, don't you? | ||
| I'll give you the screw on 51. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Coming up next, you've got several minutes, so relax. | ||
| Major Ed Dames from SciTech is my guest. | ||
| There is more, if you think you can handle it, coming next. | ||
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| And Major, Area 51, everybody's dying to know. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| What have they done? | ||
| What are they doing at Area 51? | ||
| Area 51 is a test site. | ||
| They don't build anything there per se. | ||
| There may be modifications, but remember, it's a testing area. | ||
| Things are built somewhere else and brought in. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's a reason why that kind of secrecy exists, and I'm going to talk about that. | ||
| That level of secrecy. | ||
| When you're dealing with nuclear weapons and defending the nation against nuclear weapons, you need to have things that are protected, operationally secure as well as secure in other ways, too. | ||
| Let me be specific. | ||
| There is a set of satellites out there that many of your listeners know about called DSBs, deep space platforms. | ||
| These satellites look down on the planet Earth, particularly places other than the United States, for signs of an intercontinental ballistic missile launch, as well as other missiles launched. | ||
| They can see the hot flame of a missile and they can see other things that are classified. | ||
| Signatures and footprints of the type of activity that would lead to the signature, the setting up of the missile, the things that are associated with that kind of a thing. | ||
| Now, we have a problem, though, because once a missile Is launched, it is extremely difficult to interdict that missile. | ||
| By the time we get around to doing it, we may or may not be able to intercept, and if we do, we don't know whether we're intercepting a decoy and wasting precious anti-ballistic missile defenses against the decoy or the real thing. | ||
| We have real problems there. | ||
| So, what to do? | ||
| What to do? | ||
| If we see somebody allegedly gearing up to launch one, do we launch a first strike or to preempt it? | ||
| If someone is getting ready to launch, a potential adversary is getting ready to launch a preemptive strike against the United States, and all indications to our intelligence community, our indications and warning community say that that's going to happen, what do we do? | ||
| Well, the answer is we wait. | ||
| We wait until we see the missile take off. | ||
| Now, that means we have to have an effective anti-ballistic missile defense for the United States, or we have to do something else. | ||
| And that's something else, is what goes on in Area 51. | ||
| There is another way to defend or attempt to defend, which is almost impossible, against missiles once they go ballistic, and once they enter the Earth's atmosphere over North America, we really can't defend effectively against them. | ||
| But there's something else that we can do. | ||
| If we can get to a missile launch site fast enough before an ICBM gets into the upper levels of the Earth's atmosphere, we can kill it there in the enemy's own country, in a potential adversary's own land. | ||
| Now, you have to move really fast to do that, and you run into all kinds of problems. | ||
| But when people like Ben Rich and the Skunk Works back years ago got together to build some really esoteric devices, satellites and SR-71s and all kinds of wonderful things, they pulled together a group of very eclectic thinkers, brilliant engineers, who really didn't work well as a group. | ||
| But if you really babysit these individuals and you're a good project manager, individuals, very brilliant engineers working together, they can come up with objects that, for all intents and purposes, appear to be alien. | ||
| And that is, in fact, what's happening at Area 51. | ||
| You're seeing the limits of our technological base being pushed. | ||
| Because people, these engineers, theoretically, can develop all kinds of things that can exceed most of our wildest dreams, but we're limited by our material sciences predominantly to what we can build. | ||
| But still, when you build something that flies like a bat out of hell and it's coated with diamond-coated surfaces, very expensive, can move at levels of Mach 18, something very fast, you can take it off from the United States or U.S.-held territory beyond the ground and in the area, in the neighborhood of an ICBM that has just taken off, kill it, disable it, and come back home. | ||
| That's what's going on there. | ||
| This is the nation's Sunday. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| This is our nation's Sunday punch. | ||
| We've been talking for I don't know how long and getting rumors and more than rumors of craft that are flying in from the Pacific at incredible speeds. | ||
| Well, and these, I mean, we have some very brilliant engineers in America, and they've been asked to come up with things that can, that was their task. | ||
| We have to be able to disable or kill intercontinental ballistic missiles while they're still rising up above a potential adversary's airspace. | ||
| That's absolutely fascinating. | ||
| So you're saying with a fast response, you could get one of these incredible craft to a location where an ICBM is rising and knock that damn thing down above the country. | ||
| That's right, moving like a bat out of the hill. | ||
| Now there's a lot of problems technologically and engineering-wise when you do that. | ||
| For instance, you have an ionized plasma that surrounds, in many cases, it surrounds the shell, the skin of a vehicle that's moving that fast, unmanned, by the way. | ||
| And now, how do you communicate with it? | ||
| So that's something you have to overcome. | ||
| So like the re-entering astronauts that go through a blackout period. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| The speeds get like at that or greater. | ||
| There's another problem. | ||
| One of the reasons that things are so classified in this arena are because of the toxicity of the fuels. | ||
| The Environmental Protection Agency would never allow an operation like that. | ||
| These fuels are so poison, so very, very poison, that they could not essentially be used anywhere disposed of effectively. | ||
| Again, there's something there because there is a lawsuit underway right now by a number of people who have worked at Area 53. | ||
| Yes, my vice president, Joanina Durip, has informed me of that a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| it's underway, and they claim they were toxically poisoned. | ||
| Yeah, the fuels are... | ||
| There's a spontaneous combustion, the aurora, for instance, the engines outside of the craft after it gets to a certain modality of operation. | ||
| And there are follow-on vehicles that are more esoteric, that use attempted electrogravitational propulsion, those kinds of things that people see hovering about the Area 51. | ||
| All these physics is physics, and we'll build stuff that can increase our capabilities to deliver this kind of Sunday punch because that threat's still very real out there. | ||
| Aliens? | ||
| Nope, sorry. | ||
| Are there extraterrestrials out in the valley? | ||
| You bet, but not there, Area 51. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I've got a series of questions posed by facts, and there's a lot of good ones here. | ||
| Wait, I'm not done yet. | ||
| All right, go. | ||
| Oh, well, by all means, go. | ||
| Okay, about the government's hidden UFO agenda. | ||
| There's one other thing I'd like to talk about here, and that is what we're hiding. | ||
| If you remember Howard Bloom's book, Out There, which was fairly poorly written, but he talked about a UFO working group in the Pentagon. | ||
| I was a member of that. | ||
| We even had a cover name for it to disguise ourselves. | ||
| We call ourselves the Advanced Theoretical Physics Working Group. | ||
| And essentially, we had no charter to look at the UFO phenomenon. | ||
| There was no money. | ||
| There was no charter. | ||
| We tried to hide our activities under General Irvingson's Star Wars program, the SDI program, essentially attempting to develop software that could recognize something, differentiate it between alien, airliner, satellite, those kinds of things. | ||
| And those members were military officers. | ||
| I was the youngest, the junior officer at the time, and there were members of the military industrial community that were there too, Lockheed Muslim Space, McDonnell Douglas companies of that built. | ||
| And we were a bunch of wild and crazy guys who were sincerely interested in looking at this phenomenon, but could not coax money out of presidents or services to really do anything with it. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because there's no charter. | ||
| After Project Blue Book and a few follow-on projects, there's really no national security threat there. | ||
| And the Department of Defense and the intelligence agencies are tasked with protecting the nation against other nations or potential adversaries. | ||
| There isn't any charter, and so there's no money for that. | ||
| It has to be put into the civilian community research. | ||
| Charter doesn't exist congressionally or otherwise to look at UFO things. | ||
| Now, our satellites did pick up photos that pick up things, glowing objects hovering above bases, both ours and other countries. | ||
| And those are real photos. | ||
| They are really glowing objects that defy explanation and are enigmatic That have been captured on satellite photography, but they will not be released because they cannot be released. | ||
| Number one, the place that we were looking at, those kinds of data are classified, what we are looking at at any given time. | ||
| Major, there was a 2020 program, I think it was 2020, in which they documented objects that had appeared above Soviet missile silos. | ||
| And as a matter of fact, one of them activated the launch sequence for a Soviet ICBM. | ||
| And they continued to document that there was this object above, and they went into launch sequence. | ||
| There's no question about it. | ||
| The Russians totally freaked out, tore everything apart. | ||
| I mean everything. | ||
| Every panel out of there after this incident tried to find out what had happened, and there were no answers. | ||
| No answers. | ||
| And there have been stories of objects hovering above our sites as well. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But I want to get back to the... | ||
| Those events have happened. | ||
| They are real. | ||
| They are extraterrestrial in nature. | ||
| I don't want to go too deeply into that now, except I want to make sure that we understand that the government isn't hiding anything vis-a-vis that. | ||
| The satellite photography that can't be released is because we do not want to give away, I don't watch a lot of television, but if they suggested that some of these photographs can't be released because it would divulge the capabilities of the satellite, then that's correct. | ||
| That's the reason that this is so classified. | ||
| Some of those. | ||
| And that's the only evidence that we have, other than Arts Park, of allegedly alien activity. | ||
| Now, there have been very, very enigmatic things happen at U.S. bases, but they remain unexplained. | ||
| And any government that purports to have control of its populace or maintain control of its citizenry is not going to release a report that says we don't know what this is. | ||
| You and I both understand the reasons why for that. | ||
| Well, let me tell you a little story about Gordon Cooper, the astronaut. | ||
| He said that he was at Edwards Air Force Base when a military film team was filming something or another, regular duty, and they were out on a flight line, and they saw a craft come down, three legs extend, the damn thing landed on the ground. | ||
| They kept rolling. | ||
| They had film of it. | ||
| This is Gordon Cooper now. | ||
| And they started moving toward this craft. | ||
| It rose into the air. | ||
| The three landing wheels or whatever it was extended into the craft and it just shot straight up. | ||
| Well, they had all this on film. | ||
| They sent it to Washington, according to Cooper, where it disappeared for all time. | ||
| Well, that sounds like one of ours. | ||
| We've had things like that for many years. | ||
| Why do you think the, I mean, really, we retired the SR-71. | ||
| What do you think we replaced that with? | ||
| We've been testing little objects like that with tripod landing gears for quite a while. | ||
| What aliens use are something very, very different on it. | ||
| And it doesn't look like that. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| And after all, it did come down at Edwards, which is an Air Force base. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| So you're saying that's one of ours? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| That was one of ours. | ||
| That was one of our prototypes. | ||
| And that was the beginning of the end of the Blackbird program. | ||
| There's a fellow down in Australia, Stan Dale. | ||
| I don't know if you know of Stan or have heard of him, but Stan says a lot of things about our craft, just like you're saying, that we have these things and have had them for a long time. | ||
| We take them off from one place and we land them somewhere else, just like we used to do with the SR-71. | ||
| But we've continued to buy in as a populist to these conspiracy theories. | ||
| I mean, I and my vice president announced at a UFO Congress in Germany that the Santilli alien is a hoax. | ||
| It's a bag filled under pressure with a pump inside. | ||
| Pressure is there so that when you cut it open, it looks like fluids are oozing out. | ||
| You notice that there was no sound on the tapes. | ||
| Actually, I have not seen these tapes. | ||
| There's no sound because if there were, you hear the pump, the little pump that's keeping that bag pumped up. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| But we keep wanting to believe that. | ||
| Meanwhile, there's something else happening. | ||
| And by the way, my company is working on a report that we'll put out on our website about La Lande 21185, the star that had a solar system of the new solar system. | ||
| Yes, about eight light years ago. | ||
| Yes, we've already begun to take a look at that, and that's kind of an easy target for us. | ||
| So we're beginning to sketch the planets around it. | ||
| There are three planets. | ||
| One is a gas giant. | ||
| Two other small ones have their own moons, one five, another seven moons. | ||
| And we're beginning to explore the surfaces of each one of those planets. | ||
| The two small ones, we call them planet Enoch and planet Erin. | ||
| Planet Enoch appears to have organic matter. | ||
| We'll take a look at that and describe it for exobiologists, exogeologists. | ||
| Planet Fiona, we call the gas giant. | ||
| That'll be the last one that we survey. | ||
| With all you have to say about what has occurred to Earth and the insult to Earth, shouldn't we be expanding our space program to look toward other planets possibly that could be inhabited by humans who don't really want to live underground? | ||
| Well, if one thinks that there might be a federation out there, I'm not so sure that the federation would allow us to go out and trash another planet. | ||
| Maybe we might have to take care of our own business here. | ||
| Actually, I mentioned an in-house project that SciTech has, Project Starman, and I can't talk about that at this juncture. | ||
| Even in a general way. | ||
| Mars. | ||
| Mars. | ||
| That's all I can say. | ||
| Watch Mars. | ||
| We'll watch Mars. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I do have some really interesting questions for somebody like you. | ||
| One of them is, do you have anything to say about the nature of our soul? | ||
| He who looks at the Kinds of things you look at might be able to answer that question. | ||
| Do we as humans have a soul? | ||
| Do we have something that lives past the physical life, do you believe? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That field these days, the buzzword is continuity of consciousness. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what the study is. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It is one of the most fascinating projects I've ever been involved in. | ||
| The jury is still out within our own ranks as to what's going on. | ||
| But the answer to the question is yes. | ||
| There's something that survives death. | ||
| Our minds fluff off, however, which is an interesting development. | ||
| When we remote view a dying person, we see something split off that we call the soul, and we cannot track that. | ||
| It's beyond our capabilities. | ||
| We know of other places that have very strange life forms that we think might be where people are reconstructed, but we have no chain of custody. | ||
| So there is a discontinuity between what leaves a dying body and what we see in other places, which we suspect might be worlds where personalities are recreated. | ||
| So there's a sort of dead zone to you. | ||
| There is a broken chain of custody and tracking ones, a personality essence, if you would. | ||
| But our minds fluff off. | ||
| That's a very interesting phenomenon. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Major, hold on. | ||
| We're at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| Stay right there. | ||
| SciTech's Major Ed Dames. | ||
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| Now to Major Ed Dames. | ||
| Major, you've affirmed we have a soul and that when we die, you kind of lose track of it as in a re-entry period. | ||
| And then it may be... | ||
| I don't have a lot of thoughts. | ||
| It's a very difficult thing for us to do. | ||
| It may seem odd that a military team would have applied itself under the rubric of advanced training to this type of thing. | ||
| But I was looking for really extreme challenges, and this was the most extreme one I could find. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| It is the most extreme, the biggest question for mankind. | ||
| All right, let's try this one out. | ||
| Those who can look ahead and see big spikes ahead of us to the right, does such a person dare look ahead to their own death? | ||
| You know, it's funny you should ask that. | ||
| In training, we have to be careful. | ||
| A lot of times, our trainees will actually give them their own lives, what we call a personal trajectory. | ||
| And I have to be careful that they don't go through the protocols too rapidly because they'll be perceiving their own depth. | ||
| And that can be a discomforting thing. | ||
| But yes, you can perceive what appears to be, with high probability, very prominent milestones or peaks in your trajectory, including the end of your life. | ||
| Have you looked at yours? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| I don't think I would either. | ||
| I may someday. | ||
| I just think that I'd rather not know right now. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Not that I'm a chicken, but I think I'd rather spend my time thinking about other things. | ||
| All right, let's look left again. | ||
| Somebody down in Texas wants to know if you've ever looked back toward the big spike that would have been the presence of Jesus on earth that time. | ||
| Yes, it's a training target. | ||
| The crucifixion is a training target. | ||
| And there was a real person. | ||
| Yes, a real man. | ||
| He was here. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Cavalry is a training target that we have. | ||
| It's an advanced training target. | ||
| I sometimes give it as the student's first solo. | ||
| That's where their skills are up to par enough on day seven or eight of training where they have to work alone and I leave the room. | ||
| So they work against unknowns as well as knowns. | ||
| All right. | ||
| If you can look to the left to when he was here, do you look to the right to his return? | ||
| We have not. | ||
| We have not done that. | ||
| There's so many things that they use this technology against. | ||
| And that actually I haven't looked at that at all. | ||
| It's not something that it's in our thousands of training files and operational files. | ||
| That is not there. | ||
| All right. | ||
| something current, Major. | ||
| There is, and there have been reports of, a creature. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| I have to ask. | ||
| It's in the docket. | ||
| It's in the docket, and when we work it, we'll provide it as a report on our website. | ||
| Oh, you will? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Would you give people, and I'm sure that Keith is quickly linking to your site, but what is your web address again, please? | ||
| Our web address is www.transition-3000.de. | ||
| That is Transition3000, and that particular distribution channel deals exclusively with side tech bulletins, reports, and studies. | ||
| That will be available quite shortly. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What about Tunguska? | ||
| That must have been a big spike in the past. | ||
| The event that may have killed off the dinosaurs and a big transition point for Earth. | ||
| Have you ever looked at that? | ||
| Now, Tunguska was about 1906 or 1908, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| Oh, yes, you are correct. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| You're thinking of the KT event, yes. | ||
| Event. | ||
| Yes, it looks as if the KT event did kill off the dinosaurs or possibly lots of things during the Jurassic. | ||
| But it did something else, too, that's very interesting. | ||
| It appears to have sideswiped Mars to the point where it really disabled the atmosphere and sort of set into motion a dynamic, which robbed Mars of its atmosphere? | ||
| There is thought to be, and I had a physicist on the show last night, I know you heard part of it. | ||
| Yes, I enjoyed listening to part of it. | ||
| And he said that they think there may be a very great deal of ice just under the Martian surface, that which used to be water that was above ground. | ||
| Now we're getting dangerously close to your Starman program that you seem very disinclined to talk about. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I thought. | ||
| So Think Mars. | ||
| I guess we better settle for Think Mars. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I have asked a lot of questions. | ||
| You'll recall that both the Russians and the Americans have lost their eyes and ears around the planet Mars. | ||
| And I think you remember that in August a few years ago, we lost a spacecraft. | ||
| I recall. | ||
| And Sitech has published a report. | ||
| We actually did a contract for the Russians. | ||
| The Russians approached SciTech asking what happened to Phobos II in 1989. | ||
| This was a spacecraft the Russians launched called Phobos II, second in a series. | ||
| And it was met its demise shortly after entering Martian orbit in the spring of 1989. | ||
| And SciTech was contracted to look at and see what happened to that spacecraft. | ||
| And what did you see? | ||
| Well, there was a very interesting machine that rose up from the surface of the planet to meet yet another machine that was in orbit, a different type. | ||
| Both these machines, quite almost sentient vehicles, if you will, unmanned, actually converged on Bobos II, and one actually came in contact with it. | ||
| And the rest is in a report. | ||
| I'll have that report available for listeners in the next couple of months. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You train people to do what you do, and you do so now in a very intensive seven-day course. | ||
| Nine-day. | ||
| Nine days. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The students are required to take a mid-course break. | ||
| Required to. | ||
| In other words, it's so damn intensive, they've got to take the break. | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| And not only intensize, it changes their lives forever. | ||
| One can no longer look at things the way it is. | ||
| Or tests that you apply to those who would wish to take training with you? | ||
| There is the training is expensive. | ||
| It's $4,500, so that limits a lot of people. | ||
| But our general litmus test is that a student must be diligent, confident, and patient. | ||
| That's all we need. | ||
| Are there a lot of people who don't make it through? | ||
| Only a few. | ||
| Only a few. | ||
| And those are the ones that lack one of the aforementioned. | ||
| We need stable people. | ||
| They have to be emotionally stable. | ||
| They're going to be undergoing some... | ||
| it'll start off as oh my god on day two or three this really works to the point where they perceive things that they may wish they'd never seen may wish they'd never seen is it is it Knowing some of the things that you know, can we change them? | ||
| And if we can, should we? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I assume that corporately, as a race, we can change things, because I know that we have a certain range of response to change. | ||
| We can change things within a certain range as individuals. | ||
| So I assume that that extends to us corporately. | ||
| Whether or not we should is an eschatological problem, and I just can't answer that. | ||
| I'm just an average guy. | ||
| Knowing some events that are coming, and I don't know whether you can, you know, you probably cannot perceive the smaller events, but have you corporately experimented with the ability to modify what appears to be the unmodifiable? | ||
| That is autological when you think about it, because how would we know, really? | ||
| We don't have a way of double-checking. | ||
| We run into a double paradox if we do that. | ||
| If we remote view something to get feedback on something that we would plan upon doing, did we, in fact, affect it? | ||
| What came first, the chicken or the egg? | ||
| Did we in fact affect the event or did we affect the event? | ||
| And that's difficult. | ||
| It gives me headaches to think about. | ||
| I don't know how much leeway we have in changing the future. | ||
| It may be that the things that we as remote viewers perceive are only those things that have reached 100% likelihood in some other dimension and fallen out as data with us. | ||
| We may not indeed be able to perceive things that are less than 100% probable. | ||
| I don't have the answers with those questions yet, nor will I probably ever. | ||
| We do not do research. | ||
| We'll allow our students to do that in the future. | ||
| Strictly applied. | ||
| Okay, Gordon Michael Scallion is a good friend of mine. | ||
| He's been on the show many times. | ||
| He does prophecy based on what he describes as seeing three TV screens or three visions. | ||
| He likens it to three TV screens, with two of them being very pale pictures and one of them being bright and very colorful. | ||
| Can you imagine that with what you do as sort of the more likely future, the more likely scenario? | ||
| No, it's linear in our terms. | ||
| It's time and trajectories, state-space trajectories of entities, in this case Earth and its humans, we see as linear. | ||
| What we perceive as remote viewers, vis-a-vis the future of the Earth in terms of the next hundred years, is grim as hell. | ||
| There's nothing bright about it. | ||
| What do you see? | ||
| Except to say that our children's children will have to rebuild the planet, and that's a character-building opportunity for them. | ||
| Do you have children? | ||
| Yes, I have two, a 12 and a 14-year-old, and I have two stepdaughters. | ||
| Given the opportunity to have more children, would you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, I would. | ||
| So you have hope? | ||
| Oh, I never said I did not have hope. | ||
| I just said that we're going to be running a gauntlet here. | ||
| And it's an adventurous time to be alive. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| Like I say, there's some real character-building opportunities ahead for us. | ||
| I mean, the big things are the ones that really build character. | ||
| That's a personal opinion. | ||
| Earth changes, major earthquakes, that sort of thing. | ||
| What do you see? | ||
| Beyond all that, humans are more durable. | ||
| We appear to undergo some changes. | ||
| Humans appear a couple of generations from now to be what we would call more durable. | ||
| We are a little bit tougher, thick-skinned, allegorically. | ||
| In terms of Earth changes, only what my company stands by, and that is, again, the high winds and the atmospheric geological changes that I've already talked about. | ||
| In the babies? | ||
| That's just a piece of the action there. | ||
| That's one thing. | ||
| And by telling mothers about this problem and potential problem and alerting them to the fact that the flag will go up when babies start to die. | ||
| If this knowledge gets out, if this kind of prediction gets out, and that's why it's so important for us, for SciTech to be correct in the public eye. | ||
| My corporation has really got to double check and triple check its work before we go public. | ||
| If we attain that degree of credibility in the public eye, we really will be able to save lives. | ||
| Not all of them. | ||
| And people will still poo-poo the very existence of this type of thing, but others will listen and will scare people enough. | ||
| We'll scare mothers and fathers enough in some instances where they will take their babies off of hormone-injected milk. | ||
| Mother's milk, then. | ||
| Mother's milk is the way to go. | ||
| And otherwise, consider a move to a northern latitude? | ||
| I would northern latitude, or as communities, start thinking about how communities could build structures to weather these storms and to grow food. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Major, it has been a seriously interesting night. | ||
| And a lot of people are going to reflect very carefully on all you've said. | ||
| And it's going to have scared a lot of people. | ||
| But I guess you mean to do that, don't you? | ||
| Again, I was called Dr. Doom at the White House, and I guess I earned that. | ||
| But the truth packs a responsibility, and it isn't always pleasant and fun and entertaining. | ||
| We as Americans love to be entertained. | ||
| Well, this is not very entertaining, but it's very true. | ||
| And the tools that we teach, that, again, tax dollars paid for so many years of research and operations, it's a tool that can discern direct knowledge and truth. | ||
| And we'll try to get that in the hands of as many young people as possible in the future. | ||
| The people who directed those tax dollars, if they heard this this morning, and I presume many of them did, are they really upset with you for this? | ||
| I think a couple may be and are already. | ||
| But others, like Stan Spill Turner, former head of the CIA, would not be at all. | ||
| We tend in our 11th hour of life to change. | ||
| Oftentimes I have a little practical exercise. | ||
| I move along to the moment just before I die and I look back along to the left and I ask myself at that point problematically, is there anything I regret? | ||
| And if I can find something I regret, then I make sure I take note of that so I don't let it happen. | ||
| I don't have any roads not taken that I regret not taking. | ||
| That's a good exercise to do. | ||
| So, in other words, the old saying is operative, live every day as though it was your last. | ||
| That's the coast. | ||
| And if I do have to go soon, then I want to go out in style. | ||
| I do want one of those art bell watches. | ||
| Watches. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, I will see to it, Major. | ||
| And I want to thank you for being here this morning. | ||
| The pleasure is in my. | ||
| All right, take care. | ||
| And I'm sure if you continue to listen, you will hear quite a bit of reaction. | ||
| Mine, too. | ||
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