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Welcome to Arch Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from March 20th, 1996.
art bell
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening.
Good morning across all these many time zones, stretching from Tahiti and the Hawaiian Islands to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands south into South America, north all the way to the Pole.
This is coast to coast and look beyond.
Good to be here, everybody.
First, Richard Popeland.
Mixed signals, we don't know at this hour, and I'll give you what I've got.
I have the following facts.
Well, Arch, I just got off C-SPAN's program line, which, by the way, they said they would update by 7 p.m., and guess what?
Looks like they bailed out on covering Richard Hoagland's press conference.
Also called CNN today.
They gave me a very quick firm answer of no, they were not going to cover it.
Are any of us surprised?
I think not.
I question their interpretation of news.
I ordered your newsletter in mid-February.
Anxiously awaiting my first copy.
Can't wait to read the articles on HARP.
An avid listener to your show.
Find it very informative and enjoyable.
So forth.
Hope in Los Angeles.
Thank you, Hope.
So that's one side of it.
The other side is I just spoke with Keith Rowland, and he says that CNN indeed does have a spot there, that C-SPAN may be changing their mind at the last moment, and the Discovery Channel is going to be there.
Now, that leaves me a little bit out in the cold.
I have no idea what's going to happen.
I do know one thing that is going to happen, and that is the news conference is going to be covered live on my IRC Internet Relay Channel at 6 o'clock in the morning Pacific time, 9 a.m.
Eastern, 6 a.m.
Pacific.
And you will actually be able to get on that channel and ask questions and watch the incoming text as the news conference proceeds.
So in order to get instructions on how to get to the IRC Relay Channel, simply go to my webpage and everything you want will be up there.
That, of course, is www.artbell.com.
www.
for the world wide web dot artbellartb e-l-l dot com and it will instruct you how to get to the IRC relay channel so folks that's all we know right now it figures right up until the very last moment it's going to be touch and go we'll see the times for the news conference are in the morning at 6 a.m. Pacific
time 9 a.m. Eastern adjust for points in between or beyond Mr. Bell just a heads up to let you know they're planning a series of tests with HARP beginning this Friday tomorrow apparently some sort of joint test with the space shuttle Atlantis now get this they said the Northern Lights would be extra special that evening anyway
Anyway, I thought you might like to know, and if you already have this, please disregard.
Love your show, and so forth.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Very interesting.
That fax from Valdez, Alaska, so they're about to crank up harp, folks.
Extra special treat with the Northern Lights.
So that's where everything stands, and we don't know at this hour one way or the other.
We know it is going to take place.
We know it's going to be on the IRC Relay Channel, and we think we know that CNN and Discovery are going to be there and that C-SPAN may be there.
Who knows?
A second trial, as you must know by now, has resulted in guilty verdicts, guilty of murder in the first, with special circumstances.
That's very important.
For the shotgun killings of both the Menendez brothers'wealthy parents in Beverly Hills, six years ago they would have inherited $14 million.
First trial was a hung jury.
This trial, conducted by an eight-man, four-woman jury, and this time the abuse excuse was disallowed.
Incest, psychological terror, all the things they talked about they were afraid of,
them to go into the middle of the middle of the night with shotguns and blow their parents away their attorney said the disallowal of the abuse excuse was unfair and shows that fairness is draining from the system uh Gil Barcetti in L.A. getting a much needed victory after the O.J. Simpson case now Monday the penalty phase of this trial
will take place the Menendez brothers' best hope is for life in prison very possibly instead it's going to be the death penalty why because the jury attached special circumstances to the first degree murder verdict that definitely allows for the death penalty and we'll see in California So,
does this in any way restore your faith in our justice system, justice perhaps delayed, but seemingly done in the end?
I wish the news was better today.
The other story, there are more.
From New Jersey, a teacher, Kathleen Weinstein.
This is a teacher who taught special education to children.
And she was murdered in a carjacking by a 17-year-old.
The haunting words of a school teacher pleading for her life during a carjacking preserved incredibly by this alert woman who somehow activated a tape recorder, recorded the whole thing, including her own murder, on a small, very small tape recorder, unknown to the 17-year-old killer.
The community in New Jersey is in a rage.
Get this.
She had been the founder of a program called Random Acts of Kindness.
Random Acts of Kindness.
A victim herself of a random act of violence.
She on the tape begged him to take her car, leave her life, said, you'll be caught.
You're making a decision about your life with what you do here.
A teacher to the very last.
And then I guess on the tape, the sound of her choking to death as he went ahead and killed her.
You know, I wish the news was better, but it really isn't.
And in New York, a big fight again about the death penalty, involving a case of a brutal murder of a police officer by three armed robbers just last week.
The governor of New York, Governor Pataki, unlike the former governor of New York, believes in the death penalty, particularly in a case like this.
But you see, the district attorney, elected DA, does not particularly believe in the death penalty.
As a matter of fact, he has come right out and said he believes the death penalty is not a deterrent.
Governor Pataki is so beside himself that he's saying he may try to remove the elected DA.
The DA says if the governor does that, he will sue him.
So the fights over the death penalty in New York continue.
I guess what got me more than anything else tonight is the random acts of kindness program.
This woman who started that program dies in a random act of violence, a carjacking, where she's told the guy, don't worry, take my car, leave my life.
And so he just, he goes ahead and kills her.
In Chechnya, looking about the globe a little bit here, there was heavy fighting today.
30,000 dead in that war so far could be the end of Yeltsin's bid for a re-election.
Every village in Chechnya is now a haven for guerrillas, and they're threatening to take more Russians hostage and kill them.
Now, every single night, you see, these people have already lost everything.
Numerically, just about every family in Chechnya has lost somebody to the Russians, who have got 40,000 soldiers there occupying Chechnya.
But every night when the sun goes down, the Chechens grab their guns and kill as many Russians as they can.
When you're dealing with somebody who has already lost everything, you're dealing with a very, very dangerous person.
Chechnya is clearly Russia's Vietnam.
It's going to take out Yelsin.
It's going to take out any chance the Russian people have for real peace.
They're not going to have it.
And they're eventually going to lose Chechnya or kill everybody there and in the process lose an awful lot of their GIs.
Interesting study by the RAND Corporation says the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
And it would seem to be quite a bit of substantiation here.
The lowest 10% of income earners in the U.S. between 1973 and 93 have lost 21%, adjusted for inflation.
In 73, they were making $14,184.
In 1993, only $11,220.
So they lost ground, adjusted for inflation, 21%.
The highest 10% increased 22%.
In 1973, the highest 10% made 89,000 on average.
In 1993, 108,508.
So, where does all this lead?
This difference between the rich and the poor.
Where's it going?
Is it eventually going to lead to some kind of revolution?
People talk about these things.
How do we correct it?
Do we redistribute the wealth?
A change in the tax code?
How do we correct this before it corrects us?
Ross Perot looks like he's going to run.
He now says if his supporters and his Reform Party call on him, he will answer the call.
Sounds like Ross is going to run.
Bob Dole said if Ross Perot does run, it's going to make things harder for him, noting that Perot, quote, has a lot of money, end quote.
Faced with such a choice, what would you be inclined to do?
Now, I look at Bob Dole much the way I looked at George Bush.
I look at Bill Clinton, frankly, very much the way I looked at Dukakis.
In that election, I voted for Ross Perot.
I'm not sorry.
I don't know that I will repeat it this time, but it looks like Ross is going to run again, and we'll see what he has to say.
I wonder how you feel about that.
unidentified
Is he a spoiler?
Possibly.
art bell
Here's a facts from Wisconsin.
Dear Art, I'm writing from a city of 50,000 here in Wisconsin.
Janesville, actually.
The quickening is taking its toll here.
In less than a year, our small city has seen two gruesome murders in which husbands murdered wives in bizarre and violent ways.
Husband one stomped his wife, my friend, to death right in front of their two small children.
Wisconsin has no death penalty, so the man got life, eligibility to parole, and 15 years.
Days after that one, a second man shot his wife five times, then dismembered her body into nine separate pieces with a hacksaw and an X-Acto knife.
In the second murder related to, is it related to the easy sentence of the first?
Who knows?
Also from our area, two rapists who brutally beat their victims in separate incidences were sentenced this way by the same judge.
One sentenced to one year in the county jail because the judge said he looks like a nice guy.
The second sentenced to six months in jail and six months work release.
The same judge sentenced a rapist of a three-year-old child to one year in the county jail.
Now, we don't live here in some hit town.
Our area is very white-collar, reasonably wealthy.
I believe an organization making judges responsible for their decisions needs to be founded.
Finally, in the March 11th issue of Newsweek, page 51, there's a photo from the Jerusalem bus bombing.
Did anyone else see the face of a Christ-like figure in the mangled bus?
It jumped out at me and gave me goosebumps.
Curious whether you or any of the other listeners noticed it.
Cindy in Janesville, Wisconsin.
So this brings me to something I'm going to do this morning.
I'm going to do a little rough stuff and a little fun stuff.
The rough stuff is, I've never done this.
I have talked now with you for years, a couple anyway, about what I call the quickening.
And I thought that it would be appropriate to make a list, actually, of things that contribute to or are part of the quickening.
I could do it, but I'd rather have you do it.
So if you have something that you would consider a sign of the quickening, call me and give it to me, and I'll put it on my list.
We're going to make a quickening list.
And then concurrent with that, and this may carry through tomorrow's show as well, I'm sure, I've always wanted to do a night of what-ifs.
Last night, we had several people calling in with all sorts of what-ifs.
And so I thought, why not just do a night of what-ifs?
So, with whatever else you call about, if you've got a really good what-if, I'd like to hear it.
Ranging from a conflict with China to the results of an awakening as a result of the Hoagland press conference.
Anything you would like to do a what-if on, I'm all for it.
So, we are going to do a quickening list, a what-if kind of night, and a number of other things.
I've got a fax here on China, too, from a lady that I will read to you in just a moment.
Now, again, two items.
One is a list of things, and I'll take one from each person, things that you believe contribute to the quickening, signs of what I call the quickening.
We have never made a list.
We have talked many times, but have never made a list.
Tonight we shall.
And then, I know a lot of you are very good at this, and I love scenarios and what-ifs.
So I thought, why not devote a night to what-ifs?
So if you've got a good One, and you would like to intrigue us, cause us to think a little bit.
Well, come on forward.
Give us your what-if.
So that's a kind of a little hint of what we might do, but anything that's on your mind is fair game coming up next.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Music by Ben Thede
You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
art bell
Aha, good morning, everybody.
It's good to be here on a Wednesday night, soon to be Thursday morning in this time zone.
Hi, Art.
The current economy is like a stretched-out rubber band.
Indeed.
The rich are getting richer, the poor getting poorer.
There are two reasons for this.
The first is that to become prosperous in the new economy, you've got to be literate in reading and computer technology.
Second point is not to become a single parent.
I don't think it's going to lead to a revolution with the poor.
What are the poor going to do?
Sabotage the internet?
They don't even have good access to computers.
The new routes to prosperity are not Interstate 5 or Route 66.
They're fiber optics and the internet.
Dave from Merzaid.
And Dave, I could not agree with you more.
And I've said this a million times, and I'll say it again.
Parents, if there's anything you can do for your children that will brighten their future, get them a computer.
You know, the one guy who really had it together on this and was ridiculed for it was Newt Gingrich.
And he was absolutely right.
He made some comment about getting poor people computers.
He was dead right.
People may have laughed, but that is, I believe, the route to prosperity today and for the foreseeable future.
I believe that.
All right, I want to update you a little bit on our telephone lines, and then we will begin using them.
Our international line is still not, well, I'm not sure about it, but I don't, according to what I heard earlier, is not functional.
But I will give out the number just in case.
What they tell me is that, and AT ⁇ T is really being wonderful about this.
There is no such thing, as I told you, as an international 800 line.
But what we're trying to do now has been bumped all the way upstairs at AT ⁇ T. And they've got their best minds, their best computer and engineering people working on giving us exactly what we wished for.
A true 800 toll-free international line.
There is no such thing yet.
But we may be the first in the nation to get it, and they're doing their damnedest.
And so, actually, I want to say, way to go, AT ⁇ T, whether or not they managed to do it, they are making a maximum effort to try.
And I want them to know I appreciate it.
And the network appreciates it.
We're well across the world now on the internet.
Real audio, courtesy of WPSL in Port St. Lucie and now WOAI in San Antonio, which means access to the Internet anywhere in the world.
And you can sit and listen to the program.
As a matter of fact, you can do it while you're doing other things on your computer.
So we are there.
Whether we can get you here or not, I don't know, but I want to applaud AT ⁇ T for giving it a real go.
And they may be able to do it.
And if they can, we will be the first in the nation to have such a line.
Now, what you might try doing is dialing...
It is 1-800-893-0903.
You might try dialing your country's country code first, or our country code, the U.S. country code, and then that number.
But I do not believe it is yet functional.
That was late word late tonight, so I'm sure it is not working, but in case you're out there somewhere and you want to try it, well, now see, speak up, and here it is ringing.
That number is 1-800-893-0903.
I cannot resist.
Let's see what's there.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hello there.
Nope, guess not.
Too bad.
Somebody did manage to get through somehow.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Heart, it's me, Jim, L.A. Yes, hi, Jim.
Hi.
Absolutely depressing news to start things out, so I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a- Boy, it really is.
Pardon?
art bell
I said it really is.
You know, murders here, murders there, convictions, beatings, stompings.
unidentified
Just horrible.
Let me turn it off real quick.
I'll be right back.
art bell
Oh, I guess he means his radio.
Now, you've got to have your radio next to your phone, folks, so that you can do that right away.
unidentified
Yes.
What if Raoul puts his hand over his heart and sings a national anthem big time?
art bell
Well, I'd faint.
I don't expect it.
What if, what if?
unidentified
And now I have a joke.
art bell
I thought that was it.
unidentified
No, no.
The joke is, do you know the last two words of the national anthem?
Playball.
art bell
Goodbye, Jim.
unidentified
See you.
Playball.
art bell
Yeah, that's probably really true in a lot of ways, isn't it?
unidentified
Playball.
art bell
Oh, boy.
Let's see.
On our wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
There you are, Bill.
art bell
That's true.
unidentified
I made it through.
This is good.
How are you doing?
art bell
Fine.
unidentified
Good.
First of all, I have a good name for your cat.
art bell
I'm already, I have named our cat.
The name of that cat contest is over.
The name of the cat is Comet.
unidentified
I had Clyde.
art bell
Clyde?
unidentified
Yeah, Clyde.
art bell
As in Bonnie and Clyde?
unidentified
As in Bonnie and Clyde.
art bell
Well, Clyde.
Who would call a cat Clyde?
unidentified
We had six male cats, all of which were named Clyde.
art bell
How could you tell the difference, one Clyde from another?
unidentified
Well, they were different colored.
art bell
Orange Clyde, black Clyde, white Clyde.
unidentified
And Tabby.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
Yeah.
It worked out pretty well.
Anyways, you know, a ways back you had a story about a certain type of abortion that was somewhat controversial.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I was wondering if you ever found out what the AMA had to say about it.
art bell
No, I don't think they ever said a word about it.
unidentified
What do you think they would have said?
art bell
I wouldn't endeavor to speak for them or even guess what they would say, sir.
I would have no idea.
unidentified
No, no, I suppose.
art bell
All right, thank you very much for the call.
I'll tell you this about my cat.
It's pretty strange.
This is a true wild cat, folks.
And I mean, really Wild.
Let me tell you about Comet.
Comet came home from the vet today, all groggy-eyed.
Oh, groggy-eyed Comet.
And Comet had been sedated after having claw surgery in the front, and he had his male parts modified.
So, plus a little bit of a pretty good cat drug of some kind.
So, Comet was drugged to the gills when he came home.
We put him in a little bed in our bedroom.
I have never seen anything like this in my entire life.
When this cat, bearing in mind now that its claws are sore, they do it wonderfully now, though, and they've got a kind of a glue and dissolving stitches they put on there, so it's really a wonderful way they do it.
And, of course, the other surgery.
So, this cat was out of the, you know, just totally out of it.
And it woke up, its eyes opened.
I mean, we were sitting in there watching it.
Its eyes opened.
And I'm telling you, I swear to you, this is the truth.
This cat jumped up in the air vertically.
We're talking about from dead sleep now, jumped up in the air vertically, five and one-half feet.
I would not have said that a cat in the peak of its physical condition could ever make a jump like this.
But this cat went absolutely vertical, five and one-half feet.
We measured it.
And then he started running around, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.
You know, this plaintive type thing.
And so I finally got him, and I held him, and he put his little head down, trying to hide his eyes.
He felt safer with his eyes covered.
Still, he was crying.
It is the first time.
And then he started purring.
It's the doggoneest thing I've ever seen.
Have you ever...
I've never heard anything like it in my life.
Now, to me, that said, the cat welcomes contact.
It knew that I meant it no harm, or at least I presume so.
That was the purr.
It was kind of like, I've lived under houses.
I've lived in the wild.
I'm scared to death of human beings, but damn, this is kind of nice.
And he's hiding now.
He's behind our washing machine and feeling, I suppose, safe and will come out when he darn well feels like it.
So that is the story to the moment of comet.
But it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
I'm telling you, this cat, the eyes went blink, blink open, five and one-half feet straight up into the air.
This is a serious feral cat, and we have got a real job on our hands to tame this one.
So we'll see.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, welcome from, or greetings from Kansas City.
art bell
Yes, sir, KCMO.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
What if, Art?
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
The size of the Earth were growing.
art bell
What if it were growing?
unidentified
Let me explain how that can happen.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
You know, Einstein in his E equals M C squared, in effect, you can take mass and change it into energy, or you can take energy and change it into mass.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
That's what it means.
Sure.
The sun burns off its mass in the form of energy, heat primarily.
The earth receives it, and the plants, trees are a good example, absorb the sun's energy, and the total mass or weight of a tree will be greater than the earthly nutrients and water and air that's been put into it.
So a tree has some mass from the sun, in effect.
art bell
Kim, that's good.
You know, you're really right.
In other words, there is a conversion of energy to mass going on consistently on Earth.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And so your theory is that the Earth is therefore actually growing in mass as the Sun shrinks.
Yes, uh-huh.
unidentified
And just a little perspective, if, for instance, it were growing at the rate of one foot in a thousand years, which is reasonable, I would think, then that means since its inception, 5 billion years ago, the Earth's diameter has gone from 6,000 to 8,000 miles.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I wonder what Scallion would think about how that might affect his earthquakes.
art bell
I'm sure he'd have a lot to say.
My question to you would be, having thought this aspect of it out, as you have, and it's a good theory, is there anything that would suggest the Earth losing mass by any means?
unidentified
Yes.
When you burn something, you're converting mass back into energy, heat.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, so you burn a log in the fireplace, you're taking all that mass, or a little bit of log mass.
art bell
Well, let's talk larger scale.
When you burn down significant portions of the rainforest, you're converting quite a bit of mass.
unidentified
That's correct.
art bell
So the two either might balance out or on balance, we might even be shrinking.
unidentified
Well, I doubt that because don't forget that most of the vegetation on Earth is in the ocean.
It's a little hard to burn that off.
art bell
That is true, actually.
Well, both of them, very good what if, sir, and I thank you for the call.
That is a well-thought-out call.
It is certainly true you can convert energy to mass, or mass to energy, or uh in a gaseous form, or whatever.
So what if we're getting bigger?
So what if we are?
Would that have an effect, uh, a geologic uh effect?
I'm sure that it would.
Certainly we know the ring of fire is more alive than I've ever seen it in my life.
I've I've never seen anything like the number of volcanoes and earthquakes and things that are going on.
At any rate, we'll be right back.
And the caller was correct.
The news today is not good.
It's all about murder, rape, convictions for murder, fights about the death penalty, and crime.
As we continue to literally eat ourselves up alive as a society, it was depressing even having to read it all to you.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello there.
Going once.
Going twice.
That's all you get.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Art Bell.
Hey, Mr. Bell?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Hi, this is Daryl in Seattle.
art bell
Hi, Daryl.
unidentified
And the reason I'm calling, I've been following this quickening thing for a long time, and I've been writing about this same kind of thing, and I'm glad that you finally have given me a really good name to call it.
I think that all this crime that we see and all of the injustice, I think the crime is part of the quickening.
I mean, it is a result of the quickening.
art bell
Well, here's what I want to say.
We have always had crime.
Since man has been walking about on earth after tossed out of Eden, we've had crime of varying kinds.
But today's crime is palpably different.
In other words, and I love this example.
Maybe I wouldn't say love.
It's a good analogy.
There was a day when robbers would walk into a convenience store, hold a gun on a guy, take what's in the cash register, and get out of there.
Today, they walk in, take what's in the cash register, and shoot the guy who's got his hands up and leave.
unidentified
That's it.
And I wonder why they do it.
I think that it's part of the quickening, the reason we're having the ring of fires going crazy and volcanoes going off and stuff.
I think that's because, yes, Mother Earth is giving us a message.
That's why the sea lions are eating all the salmon up here in Ballard because they're saying, hey, look, you guys are next.
And, you know, my what if that I would like to bring to the table is, what if we realize that to survive, we must find like ecologically stable sources of raw materials and eliminate all the pollution and waste.
And you know what?
The answer's been there all along.
And you know what it is?
art bell
What?
unidentified
Hemp.
It's a friend to man and ecology.
We could use it for ecology.
You know, anything that our basic raw materials use for home and industry today, like plastic, oil.
art bell
No, you're absolutely correct.
unidentified
All those things could be made from hemp, and we could put the farmers back to work, and we could get a lot of people out of prison and put them back as productive members of society.
art bell
It is true.
unidentified
We're really working hard on it.
art bell
Sir, the Wall Street Journal estimated that hemp would generate a half trillion dollars in the economy every year.
unidentified
And you know, 400,000 people die from smoking cigarettes every year, and no one dies from smoking marijuana.
Well, and you can't grow your own tobacco, but you could grow your own marijuana.
art bell
That's a little misleading.
unidentified
Well, the actual people killed by police or killed by dealers.
art bell
No, no, no, no.
The tars and the damaging substances in marijuana are actually Graham.
No, it isn't.
unidentified
I've talked to the top pharmacologist the other day of the University of Washington, the head of the pain clinic.
Yes.
And he says that that's a bunch of bologna.
Anything that we knew about marijuana before 1989 is out the window.
art bell
All right.
I absolutely disagree with you.
And the tars and the things that would damage your lungs, compared cigarette to joint, make marijuana more damaging.
Now, arguably, people smoke fewer joints than they do cigarettes, or else the whole society would be stoned all the time.
But don't mislead yourself.
It may well be that hemp has a lot of good commercial uses, or that we should even decriminalize the smoking of marijuana.
But do not dilute yourself into thinking it's nature's wonder drug.
It isn't.
Everything of that sort you do has an effect.
We'll be back.
unidentified
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March
20, 1996.
Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired March 20th, 1996.
art bell
Good morning across this great globe of ours.
I guess I've got to say that the great globe.
And it is a great globe.
I'm Art Bell.
And I'm going to kind of run over what we're talking about very quickly in a moment for those of you who join us at this hour.
Art, it's bad enough that I lose sleep because of your show.
But now you've got my 14-year-old son hook.
Would you please tell Cameron to go to sleep?
Love your show, Terry.
Listening to KBI in Seattle.
unidentified
Cameron, turn off that radio and go to bed now.
art bell
I said turn it off Cameron.
The news is not that good to listen to anyway, Cameron.
The Menendez brothers have been convicted.
Second trial, different results.
First-degree murder, special circumstances.
They may be going.
They may be going away.
All the way away.
Or at the very least, away for life.
No abuse excuse this time.
And I wonder if that's the end of the abuse excuse in America.
unidentified
Could be.
art bell
In New Jersey, a horrible case.
Just absolutely horrible.
A school teacher who actually was best known, I guess, for being the founder of a program called Random Acts of Kindness, was killed by a random act of violence.
Carjacker, 17-year-old, choked her to death after she begged him not to.
She managed to turn on tape recorder.
So they've got the whole thing, and they've also got the 17-year-old, by the way, who they would like to try as an adult.
But just disposed of, I guess, so that there would be no witnesses to his taking of her car.
In New York, a big death penalty debate going on.
Pataki, the governor there now, in favor of the death penalty, threatening to remove a district attorney, elected DA, who looks like he's going to refuse to ask for the death penalty in the killing of a police officer, a brutal murder, I might add, by three armed robbers last week.
So they've got a big brouhaha going on in New York over the death penalty as the march of crime continues.
And it's all pretty bad news, you know, on that front.
I mean, this crime thing is way, way, way out of control.
By the way, folks, I've got Vidian on again tonight.
I've had it off the last few days.
I've been doing a lot of intensive computer work here, and so I haven't had it on.
But I've got Vidian on once again tonight.
So if you're a Vidian user, you should be able to get through at some point.
Natrons, and by the way, we're going to have Vidian for sale, we believe, the first of next week.
Assuming that everything goes well, we're at the final stages.
We've got all the boards in and the software, and the final version is being wrapped up in a pink ribbon, and we're going to have it next week.
Ross Perot now says he is going to run.
The fighting in Chechnya is again worsening.
And I get story after story of brutal murder, husbands stomping wives to death from Wisconsin.
I've got a fax here.
Another husband who cut her up into small pieces.
A guy who shot his wife five times.
And so this morning, I'm doing something that I've not ever done before.
I'm asking you, and I want to provide a lighter topic too, because this is heavy stuff.
We are going to make a quickening list, things going on in society and things we are doing that you think contribute to the quickening.
And the first one I got, of course, is senseless crime.
And there has been a change.
There was a day in America where if you were going to rob somebody, you robbed them.
You backed out of the door with your gun, but you didn't shoot them unless you had to.
Today, they go in and rob, take everything from the till.
The guy's holding his hands in the air.
And they shoot him for no reason.
No discernible reason.
They take life senselessly.
Or like the New Jersey school teacher and the 17-year-old.
He listened to her beg and choked her to death.
And on and on and on.
So that's one item.
And we are going to construct a list of things that you think are contributing to what I call the quickening.
Then we're also going to do something perhaps a little lighter.
Toward the end of the program last night, we got a lot of what-ifs.
I love them.
So if you've got a good scenario, a good what-if for us, tonight is your night.
And I would imagine these two topics will take us well into tomorrow as well.
By the way, here's a fax I meant to read.
Art, on one of your programs last week, the subject was decreasing sperm counts and China versus Taiwan.
You asked several callers, all male, the following.
If they were president and China attacked Taiwan, would they push the button?
Your question required only a yes or no.
All these callers stammered and stalled and gave ifs and ands.
Declining sperm count?
These guys were contributing to the problem.
Now, ask a woman what she'd do in that case.
Well, it cost me $249.95 for the facts.
Yes, I called C. Crane Company that morning and bought a $400 typewriter from elsewhere just to give my answer.
My answer is yes.
I'd keep my finger on the button until they turned Tail and went home.
Is that harsh?
Yes.
Is my answer a little frightening?
Yes.
Dangerous?
Yes.
Let me take care of the button, and the guys can go to work on their sperm count.
Pretty rough.
I'll tell you, over the years I have found that women, as a general rule, have a greater capacity for cruelty than men.
And I'm not saying you're cruel.
I'm not saying that is this case.
This is a foreign policy kind of thing that she's talking about here.
But when we've run into various topics about what would be done to this person or that person for their evil deeds, the women generally have come up with the more constructive, torturous, tales of retribution than have the men.
They're very good at it.
And she signs it GM.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
This is Sean from Sandusky, Ohio.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Welcome to the program.
unidentified
Yeah, how are you doing today?
Fine.
I wanted to talk about, I have a suggestion for your cat, Comet.
Yes.
The one who you said was hiding out behind the washer.
What you need to do is you need to get a can of tuna and open it up and place it in front of the refrigerator.
And you have other cats, right?
art bell
Oh, he's eating.
unidentified
Yeah, well.
art bell
He's eating.
We use Science Diet.
unidentified
He's eating.
art bell
He's coming out, you know, in the dark of night and eating his little portion.
unidentified
But he won't come out when you try to feed him in the day?
art bell
No, but, you know, I mean, the little guy really needs a little peace and quiet.
You know, he's just been modified in more ways than one.
It's probably just as well that he have a, you know, quiet area to consider that this is not an evil place and he can venture forth.
So I'm for now going to leave him alone.
unidentified
Yeah, well, the reason why I bring it up, because I've had quite a bit of success with cats as far as getting them to come out and stuff, because I've always found that a way to a cat's heart is through his stomach.
art bell
It is absolutely correct, yes.
But for now, we're going to let him hide out.
unidentified
All right, well, I just thought I'd call you up and give you that little bit of advice.
art bell
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
The interesting thing about him, and I'll only repeat this portion, we brought him home.
He was drugged to the gills.
You know, I mean, he was in cat drugdom.
And we watched him and, you know, kind of petted him.
He didn't mind, of course, because he was out of it.
And then his little eyes blinked twice.
His eyes opened.
And this cat jumped clear five and a half feet into the air.
Vertically.
Absolutely vertically.
Five and one half feet into the air.
It has been, to say the least, a very interesting day.
This is a wild feral cat who has never been around human beings.
And I held him for quite a while.
And he lay in my arm, crying and purring at the same time, screeching in terror, and yet happy that he was finally close to another.
I mean, it must have been a very lonely, lonely life.
So anyway, Comet is here, residing right now behind the washer and happy about it.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi, Art.
unidentified
How are you doing?
art bell
Fine.
unidentified
I'm calling from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
art bell
Oh, yes, sir.
unidentified
I just thought I'd bring something to your attention.
I can't call on East of the Rockies anymore.
It's not available in my calling area.
art bell
Well, then you'll be able to call on West of the Rockies.
unidentified
Even though I'm East of the Rockies?
Yes.
art bell
Is that right?
They're splitting it off in a slightly different place.
So if you cannot get through the Rockies, I would.
Yeah, on one line, use the other.
unidentified
Even though I'm East of the Rockies, though.
Yeah.
All right.
Thank you very much.
art bell
All right.
You're welcome.
Take care.
Hopefully we've got most areas taken care of.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Yeah, Art.
How you doing?
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
It's Bob from Columbia, South Carolina.
art bell
Hi, Bob.
unidentified
Yeah, I've got a comment and then a question for you on the situation up in New Jersey.
I've been watching the news all day, and they seem to be portraying this unfortunate woman as a hero or something of the sort.
And although I have sympathy for, I mean, I don't think she's an admirable figure.
She's a sheep in a world of wolves.
If she had had, she reached for her tape recorder, what if that had been a cocked and locked 45 automatic instead?
art bell
Well, then maybe she could have saved her own life.
unidentified
Yeah, I read, I don't know if you've seen it before, there's an essay that came out about two or three years ago called A Nation of Cowards.
and it's most eloquent thing i've read since thomas pain or jefferson uh...
art bell
the guy postulates that the reason society is degenerated to the point it has now how Because one of the fundamental human impetus and human rights is that of self-defense.
Yes, but people also have a right not to carry a gun if they don't want to.
unidentified
Well, they do so at their own risk.
There are bad people in the world if they can carry on.
art bell
But, sir, if it has come to the point in our world where you've got to wear a gun because the crime level or the random acts of violence and death and murder and mayhem have gone so far that the only way to continue to live is to carry a gun and kill before you're killed, I'm not suggesting we have a God-given right to do that.
But if it has come to the point where everybody has got to do that, I've got news for you.
This is not such a hot place to be anymore.
unidentified
Well, no, it isn't at the present.
But once you must admit that there are a hell of a lot more good people in the world than there are bad.
If we get to the point where we see these social predators as nothing more than another species of game animal.
art bell
Yeah, but the problem is that the number of bad people or the percentage of bad people, really bad people, is growing.
unidentified
Of course, because we lack the will to do anything about it.
art bell
And it doesn't take that many.
unidentified
Okay, I got one other question for you.
I want to ask you a real question.
Sure.
You said that you voted for Ross Perot in the last election.
art bell
That's correct.
unidentified
Did you know before you did that of his paranoid, delusional ramblings about pa pajama-clad VCs running through his front yard and that George Bush sent agents provocateur to disrupt his daughter's wedding?
art bell
I mean, look.
unidentified
You want this guy's finger on the button?
I mean, he's a nutcage.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much for the call.
Yeah, there have been a few things Ross Brow has said and done that have disturbed me.
Not all of what you hear, though, is necessarily as bad as you think it is.
Just the way I'm sure a lot of you would agree that Pat Buchanan had many things said about him that were unfair and simply untrue.
They went after Buchanan the way they went after Goldwater.
They tainted him with the word extreme.
They've done the same to Ross Barot.
Some of it may be justified, but my feeling would be that a very great deal of it was not.
And I'm sure the Bush camp did a few things here and there.
We certainly know the Dole Camp did.
Hey, folks, that's politics down and dirty.
That's the way it is.
It's not going to change.
Dirty tricks have always been a part of politics, and it would not surprise me but that a few were played on Ross.
Nevertheless, he says he's about to do it again.
All right, West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Yeah, Arbill.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yes, I've been listening to you exactly here this week.
It's great to have you on there, and I really want to thank you for having a nationwide audience like this where everybody can get their point across and everything.
art bell
Well, if we can manage this, you know, the best minds at AT ⁇ T, they gave us a call yesterday, and they said they're putting their heavy hitters, the biggest execs, the biggest software people, the biggest engineers, to work on trying to create the first truly international 800 line for us.
unidentified
Oh, that's awesome, isn't it?
art bell
Yeah, it is awesome.
unidentified
Yeah, it is totally awesome.
art bell
And when and if they get it, then international calls will be coming in one after another, and we'll be able to get feedback from all over the world.
unidentified
Oh, I have a question for you, Art.
Sure.
Do you know if that volcano is still active out there outside Oregon?
art bell
They sent a ship out, I know, and they indicated there was a lot of activity going on, and they were measuring mineral water flowing up at a heightened temperature rate, indicating it was very active.
Now, whether it still is or not, I don't know.
I believe the survey ship has come back.
unidentified
Well, I get a what-if for you then.
All right.
What if during our lifespan there actually becomes a landmass, and me and some friends are talking about it, about getting our own little national flag and going out in there and posting up, becoming our own little nation because we claimed it.
art bell
I think that'd be cool.
I've always wanted my own country myself.
unidentified
I mean, isn't that the way it was back there in the old days?
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Down the island, and you claimed it, and it was yours.
Absolutely.
You might have to fight for it, but.
art bell
Well, you might.
And I guess you could still do that.
I mean, there are a lot of unoccupied islands.
They're generally claimed as possessions of somebody or another.
But, you know, if you've got the guts, you can go out there and plant a flag and see who comes with guns.
unidentified
Well, I thought that'd be a good one.
You have a good night.
art bell
Wait, wait a minute.
Let's say you did that.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
What kind of society would you create?
unidentified
Oh, boy.
I definitely have a free society.
I think U.S. is the best nation on earth because they give us the options to succeed in anything we want to succeed in.
art bell
So then how are you going to better that?
unidentified
Well, a lot less government.
art bell
All right, thank you.
You know, that's an interesting question, isn't it?
Now, I suppose you could go to an island held by, you know, I don't know, some South American country, and make your own flag and your little national symbol and take a Bodeon and plant your flag and suggest that you are a new democracy.
Now, once you made a statement like that, the United States, it seems to me, would be compelled to protect you because we go around taking care of claimed democracies, even many that really aren't.
So that would be your best bet.
Go down and claim the island, plant your flag, begin your little society, and claim you are a democracy.
Might even get foreign aid.
They made a movie about that.
The little something or another that roared.
Remember?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Get the radio, right?
art bell
All right.
Always get the radio.
unidentified
Hi, this is Sam from Reno?
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I got a white afford for you.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
What if Art Bell is a 99th degree mason told all his secrets on the air?
art bell
Well, then he'd be dead.
unidentified
It's as simple as that, huh?
art bell
Of course.
Everybody above the 78th degree knows that.
unidentified
Well, I thought that once you reached the higher degrees that you could have allies to call on from the other side that would protect you.
art bell
Ozar, no matter how big you are, there's always someone bigger.
unidentified
Well, that's probably true, but, you know, the old United We Stand thing.
art bell
Everybody's got a boss.
unidentified
I suppose that's.
art bell
Even 99th degree Masons.
unidentified
Oh, my goodness.
Would it be okay just to refer you to you from now on as the 99?
Sure.
Okay, great.
art bell
Or Agent 99, if you wish.
unidentified
That's great.
art bell
All right, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Thank you very much for the call.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes.
I'd like to know what if all of the people who were for Abortion had been.
art bell
Had been aborted?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Well, then there wouldn't be any lobby out there for abortion, would there?
unidentified
No, there certainly wouldn't.
art bell
No.
So, there you are.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Answered your own question.
I love it when people do that.
West of Make That the Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Charlie, Liberal in California.
Hello there.
Well, again, the Republicans have watered down this anti-terrorist bill, and I think it shows you once more how the thumb of the gun nuts are pressing sharply against the top of these people's heads.
I think it's very, very unfortunate.
art bell
You must be referring to the water and the tide of individual freedom versus allowing lots of government intrusion into private life.
unidentified
Oh, that's a bunch of garbage.
art bell
Listen, listen.
unidentified
Tell me.
art bell
Listen to me.
Now, listen.
I've got a break.
If you want to hold, you can hold.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
art bell
Charlie's on hold.
I wonder if I'll remember to go back to that line.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
Tonight, an on-course presentation of Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
art bell
I've got a Charlie what-if here.
You'll enjoy this.
Just in case Charles is still here, let's check and see.
Are you there?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Yeah, all right.
Somebody's sending this from Springfield, Illinois, Charlie, and they want to know, what if Charlie liberal was Charlie conservative?
In other words, do you think he could be equally annoying on our side as on the wrong side?
unidentified
Well, let me tell you something.
I think there is a Charlie conservative.
His name is Rush Limbaugh, and yes, he is extremely annoying, and he makes me sick.
art bell
Do you consider yourself the anti-Rush?
unidentified
I think so.
I think in a way that that's absolutely correct.
I think unfortunately, and here's how I'm different from most liberals.
I think liberals, unfortunately, are the Michael Dukakis, George McGovern type who will lay back and get pounded in the face by Republicans and then say, oh, isn't that sweet?
No, I don't think Republicans only understand one thing.
They only understand being nasty and mean.
And that's where Bill Clinton differs.
He's on the left, but Bill Clinton understands what he's doing.
Well, in a way, they only understand meanness.
Bill Clinton's the first person on the left in about 30 years to understand that concept.
And it's too bad that a lot of liberals don't understand that.
But you have to answer meanness with meanness.
Let me say on these gun wackos out there who want to water this anti-terrorist thing down, it just goes to show you the Republicans are being pushed around and who they bow down to and kiss the feet of.
But again, how in the hell can a person be exp you know, on one hand you have to register your car, and they're saying that bombs don't have to be registered?
What kind of garbage is that?
I think it shows you how extremist these people actually are.
art bell
How do you register a bomb?
unidentified
Well, the Clinton administration was thinking of putting a specific chemical, different chemicals in bombs that would indicate where they came from when they exploded, which I happen to agree with.
art bell
Well, fine, but I mean, how do you actually register a bomb beyond that?
I mean, do you carry this big bomb down into the police station and say, hi there?
I'm here to register my bomb.
I don't recommend it.
unidentified
No, but they can find out where the bomb was bought at and who bought them.
And then all you have to do is find out who look at the records.
Here's the thing.
art bell
Down to your local bomb store.
Come on.
unidentified
Here's the thing.
Republicans do, and I work in the intelligence field, and I understand that in 10, 15 years from now, you're not going to be talking about fertilizer.
You're going to be talking about atomic bombs small enough to put into briefcases.
art bell
Right.
Well, we'll put in Mr. Clinton's registration program.
Thank you very much.
It'll take care of that.
There you go again.
I mean, hi, I'd like to register this bomb.
Yes, it's a small nuke.
About a kiloton.
About a kiloton.
I'd like to register it.
And then you get a little card you can carry around in your wallet.
You have a registered atomic bomb.
That'd be good.
Brilliant.
Here in Houston, the local CBS station, Channel 2, made a comment about an ex-NASA scientist, excuse me, about ex-NASA scientists.
They were going to talk to the media.
They also promised tomorrow at the 10 o'clock news.
So I'm getting a lot of facts.
Look, the latest on Richard Hoagland is the news conference will occur.
It will be at 9 a.m.
Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific Time.
Now, the news conference may or may not, and we have conflicting information on this, be carried by C-SPAN.
They may carry something about Roosevelt, not carry it at all.
Or they may have made a last-minute decision to carry the news conference, or they may tape it and delay it.
We're not sure.
CNN will be there.
The Discovery Channel is going to be there.
There are going to be some independents there.
If you want to be there, you can be there live because it's going to be carried on the IRC chat channel, which is also going to mean you can ask questions.
So, all the information about Richard Hoagland, all the information about how to get in on the live coverage on the internet tomorrow is on my webpage right now.
Okay, it's on my webpage right now so if you want to know how to monitor that in the morning call uh or call um have your computer call my web page and take a look everything you need to know is up there my web page is www.artbell.com let me give that to you one more time it's up there right now www.artbell.com
now my international calling line somebody wrote me a fax here to art bell come on you know the country code for usa canada you've traveled outside the country must have made phone calls well of course the country code for the usa and canada one yes just one to call a number say 7027278499 a person in a non-U.S.
country dials access code 1 702 727 8499 yes in most countries the access code is 00 in the u.s the access code is 011 calling the uSA from other countries calling as above always incurs a charge 800 numbers are generally not accepted all countries reject 800 as a US area code your agreement with AT ⁇ T involves using the USA direct code so a caller has to dial
USA direct code, then 1-800-blah-blah.
But dialing the USA direct code in most countries I've tried connects you to an operator in the USA.
Then you tell him or her the number you want, if you want an 800 number, he or she just laughs at you and says it cannot be done.
Even if he or she connects you, they may want a credit card number to charge the call to.
So you will not be getting any foreign calls until all the operators recognize your 800 number.
Well, let me tell you, again, signed a self-appointed telecom expert, we've got the biggest minds.
We've had a lot of communication from AT&T.
And AT&T says that they are going to make a monumental effort to actually establish the first real international 800 line in the world.
and they're working on that for us right now in various parts of the
U.S. supervisors and managers at the highest level programmers and engineers beginning yesterday went to work on it big time they're trying to do it and they're saying that if we can you will be the first to have this service the first in the whole country so I'm flattered they may not get it done but they they are people who know what they are doing and so if it can be done they're going to do it now
those of you outside the country might try various means of getting through I will give our international number but as far as I know it is not yet activated there are certain blocks that they're trying to figure out how to remove it involves a lot of software work and engineering and they're doing it but I'll give the number out just in case it's 1-800-893-0903 so if you're anywhere outside the U.S.
Canada or Mexico, try various methods.
Again, the number 1-800-893-0903.
It is worth a try.
Then we've got a bunch of what-ifs here.
Art, what if it could be proven that God is a woman?
Signed, Shannara.
unidentified
S-A-J-N-A-R-A.
art bell
Now, there is an exotic name for you, Shannara.
Very nice.
What if it could be proven that God is a woman?
unidentified
Hmm.
art bell
Well, there would be a lot of useless stained glass, for starters.
A lot of rethinking about a lot of things.
So I don't know.
Could God be a woman?
Sure.
unidentified
Could be.
art bell
Could be.
A lot of attributes that people would associate with femininity are associated with God.
Right?
Compassion.
Just a lot of things.
So I wouldn't rule it out.
On the other hand, God is probably not either sex.
And somehow you don't think of God as concerned with or bothered by sex one way or the other.
unidentified
Period.
art bell
Except how we behave, no doubt, down here.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
My name's Lauren.
I'm here in Greensboro, North Carolina.
Hi.
art bell
How are you doing, Lauren?
unidentified
Really good.
It's really good to be able to talk to you.
I've been listening to you for a while, and it's a really great show.
Thank you.
It's almost amazing to get through.
art bell
I know.
unidentified
I've been checking out the computer pages on you in the computer lab here, and I think it's a really great show, and it's a way to keep ahead of things.
art bell
The webpage is clearly one of the best webpages up on the whole area.
unidentified
internet oh yeah yeah after traveling around I just learned how to use it about a month or so back and it's been different.
Yes.
I'm not the most technologically advanced person on earth.
art bell
Well it's finally getting to the point where you don't have to be.
unidentified
Yeah.
I had a sort of a what if to give you.
I've been taking an astronomy course here and one of the things the teacher mentioned today was sort of a sort of a gut-wrenching thing to think about.
Instead of Hailbob coming by and taking a piece out of us, what if a star nearby went supernova, like within 50 to 25 parsecs?
art bell
Well, we'd be toast.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Star goes supernova.
I wonder how long we would have, how much warning, if really we wouldn't have any, would we?
unidentified
No, they said that usually they don't really become aware of them until they actually go into the explosion itself.
art bell
Well, in other words, the explosion itself we would certainly see, but it would arrive long after the fact.
unidentified
Yep.
It's uh interesting because I know that uh every about 20 or 30 years we get uh you know solar activity from the sun that really disrupts our telecommunications and all.
art bell
That's correct.
unidentified
Imagine that from an entire star exploding.
art bell
Well, I'm not enough of a scientist to tell you what effect it would have.
It would certainly bombard the Earth with a great deal of radiation, probably disrupt communications.
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
All right, that's a good one.
Thank you.
unidentified
Well, thank you, and have a nice evening.
art bell
Take care.
Here's from Warren.
Art, what if we legalize recreational drugs?
What if Perot were to be elected president?
What if we go to war with China over Taiwan?
This C-Crane fax machine beats the hell out of the telephone barrier.
Dear Art, come on, please.
The quickening is not related to Mother Earth getting back at us.
This would assume that the crusty, waterlogged rock of a planet were an intelligent being that thinks and is using free will to retaliate.
I don't believe in responsible living and paying attention to the environment.
I do believe in that, but let's not get carried away.
Like many of the extreme animal rights and environmental activists, many of them hold animal rights, trees, and now the earth, the planet, in higher esteem than humans, who are the caretakers.
It is mankind that God has given the responsibility to to manage our natural resources.
We are not slaves to them.
Well, in a sense, I agree with you.
I do not look quite at the earth the way the American native does as a living, breathing entity.
However, I think that it is a closed ecological system.
There is no argument about that.
It is.
It simply is.
And I do believe that there is a distinct possibility that when we create an imbalance, that the Earth, not through an intelligent decision, but just through a natural process, seeks to correct that imbalance.
So we don't have to imagine that Mother Earth has a living, breathing will and is retaliating in some way for all of this.
No.
I rather think, and I'll say it again, that Mother Earth is reacting in a natural way.
It is a natural process.
And what has been disturbed is being straightened out.
That doesn't indicate a conscious, willful, intelligent decision on the part of the rock.
It simply indicates a reaction.
To every action, there is a reaction.
That's what I think I believe.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hello there.
unidentified
Oh, hi.
Hi.
Is that Belle?
art bell
Yes, it is.
unidentified
Wow.
art bell
That's how it works.
You get on the air.
You call, you get on the air.
unidentified
I know.
It's like I was listening to the radio, and I couldn't tell I was on the air, I guess.
art bell
Okay, well, turn that off.
unidentified
Yeah, I got it off.
art bell
Okay, good.
unidentified
Well, I was just wondering, what if every time we kill somebody, that they go to a place of unknowledge and come back to the earth and hang out with the people that killed them?
Kind of it's like a haunting thing.
And so by killing people, and even in wars and everything, we just make more trouble for ourselves than we know.
art bell
Well, all right.
Thank you.
If every killing engendered a haunting, well, we don't know that it does not.
And people have long toyed with the concept of karma.
You do something bad, and maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually it comes back and bites you in the butt.
So it may be that that's not such a wild theory.
Who knows?
I generally agree with that, and I generally kind of believe in karma.
Things come back to you.
Good things or bad things.
They eventually come back to you.
Anyway, we're going to pause here, and we'll be right back.
What ifs?
The quickening list.
We're going to build it over the next couple of days.
you Dear Art, here are a couple of what-ifs for you.
What if Einstein was wrong about the theory of general relativity?
Instead of things appearing smaller as they travel away from you, they actually do get smaller.
What if our perception of size or mass is skewed by distance, so much so that 90% of the universe appears to be missing?
Hmm.
What if death is simply a disease that everyone has?
What happens when they find the death gene?
What if we are traveling in time in the opposite direction of our Creator?
Wouldn't that explain a lot?
Tim in St. Paul, Minnesota, Tim, he says, P.S., sorry I disclosed your nerdiness at 18, but you demonstrated it yourself when you played some of your old air checks.
Well, Tim, I suppose you were a master of Chinese ancient knowledge at 18, huh?
I mean, I was 18, Tim.
Give me a break.
You know, I was just barely into the world of radio and not into the world of commercial radio at all, and I was just having fun.
I was not a nerd.
Tim?
Yes, I was.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Oh, hello, Art Bell, am I on?
art bell
you're on.
unidentified
Oh, great.
Well, anyway, happy spring.
art bell
Thank you.
It is here, isn't it?
Equinox has come and gone, and it was a beautiful day here in the desert.
Spring has sprung, and I'd like to say everything's hunky-dory, but it is not.
unidentified
Well, I came across an unusual straw poll on the presidential president candidate in my journal of April of 95.
Would you like to hear what 32 people had to say on a local call-in show that morning?
art bell
Well, I don't want to know what each and every one of the 32 said, but give me an idea.
unidentified
Well, at the end of whatever comment, it was open radio, they asked these people who would they vote for for president.
Yes.
And so we're a town of about 150,000.
And this is how the straw poll of April 95 came out.
Buchanan 13, Graham 3, Lamar Alexander 1, Specter 0, Dole 1, Powell, 11, Wilson, 1, Hatfield, now maybe you know where I'm calling from, and one none of the above.
art bell
Well, shows you how truly wrong they were.
unidentified
Well, could it be possible that by going off the air with their open phones of three hours every morning, that in a short period of time people stopped talking to one another and they might have influenced the Buchanan vote?
art bell
Well, anything could be like objects actually getting smaller as they leave you, but I don't think it would be any more likely.
unidentified
Well, I happen to think that perhaps Buchanan has the right ideas, especially about NASDAQ, which I think the reason why everybody hates him so is not because he isn't a likable guy or the abortion issue.
I think that the world is coming down on him over the free trade.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much for the call.
Well, that's part of it.
I think he missed the boat on free trade, frankly, and to some degree on the trade agreements and several other areas.
I think these were real, honest disagreements, and the voters of America spoke.
Unless you want to believe in massive vote fraud, which some people have taken to believing in in desperation because they cannot understand the vote, then you've got to understand that the American people took a second look at Pat Buchanan and said he's a nice guy and everything, but no, thank you.
We don't want that much change.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March
20, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Thank you.
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast A.M. from March 20th, 1996.
art bell
It certainly is.
Good morning, everybody.
Well, I'm even getting what-ifs.
People are enjoying this so much.
I'm getting what-ifs on video.
He says, don't you know those sticks he can see me smoking will kill you.
Yes, I know.
We're all done.
He says, what if tobacco had some rejuvenating power?
It does.
It rejuvenates you into the next dimension.
Then he says, moving to DC soon, going to be a bureaucrat.
Well, then, goodbye.
Forever.
You're going to another dimension, too.
And then somebody sent this one back to me.
I haven't seen it in a while.
Glad to have it back.
It is the Psychiatric Answering Service.
In other words, when you call up this psychiatric service, like everywhere else nowadays, you get a machine that gives you different options.
This machine would give you the following options.
If you are obsessive, compulsive, please press one repeatedly.
If you're codependent, please ask someone to press two.
If you have multiple personalities, please press three, four, five, and six.
If you are paranoid-delusional, we know who you are and what you want, so just stay on the line till we can trace the call.
If you're schizophrenic, listen carefully, and a little voice will tell you which number to press.
If you're manic depressive, it doesn't matter which number you press.
No one will answer.
Absolutely great.
That was sent to me about a month ago, and it's made the rounds ever since.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
How's he?
This is Sub-Boy in Eugene, Oregon.
art bell
Sub-boy?
unidentified
Sub-boy, yes.
And I can't use the first-time color line anymore, which really bugs me.
Why not?
art bell
Oh, well, that's what, of course, once you've called, that's it.
unidentified
Yeah, darn it.
Anyway, I've got about four things to talk about.
They'll be really, really quick.
All right.
A number one is the second half of your cat story was just touching and brought a tear to my eye and all that with the purring cat and such.
Number two, gosh, I've got a list.
It's horrible.
The energy captured in leaves from the sun is held in the bonds between molecules.
So there's no actual conversion of the.
art bell
Well, there goes that theory.
unidentified
and nicotine as opposed to marijuana nicotine or that is tobacco nicotine shuts off the cilia which gets the Anyway.
art bell
That's all right.
That's all right.
And so you're going to say marijuana opens it, right?
unidentified
Well, no.
The cilia are tiny hairs that coat your esophagus and throat, and they sort of push out the yuck stuff.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
Marijuana doesn't have that in it, so you still have the ability to clean your lungs, which is good.
I'm not sure if you're not sure.
art bell
But still, as I said earlier, I think it's been shown that cigarette for cigarette, or joint for joint, marijuana has more tars and potentially difficult stuff in it for you than does tobacco.
unidentified
Most definitely, especially since it's been bred from gutter weed to, well, a kind.
Anyway, and the other thing, what Charlie was talking about, I mean, you caught on to this, I'm sure, about bomb tracing and such.
Diesel fertilizer, Charlie didn't know what he was talking about.
I'm sure you being on the internet, you've found out that there's a lot of bomb recipes out there.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And you can make explosives out of everything.
art bell
Yeah, I know.
The whole concept was silly, you know, going and laying your bomb on the police officer's desk and getting a registration number for it.
unidentified
Exactly.
And even if you were trying, say you were trying to make acetone peroxide.
I'm not going to go through all the little bitties, but you can make almost any chemical at home.
art bell
I know.
I know, sir.
I've done it many times.
Nearly blown myself to smithereens doing various things.
My youth.
Charlie was complaining that the bomb registration idea got dropped.
You're really going to take in like about 10, 15 sticks of dynamite and lay it on the police counter there.
I'd like to register my bomb.
To get a little bomb card you could carry around.
A registered bomb.
Maybe you could get a concealed bomb permit.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
art bell
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
Cheerio.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller, but I've got a thing about the quickening for you.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And then a what-if.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Okay, in the quickening, this deals with time, and it deals with the human being's experience of time.
As we become conscious, our consciousness exists in a frame of time that is conditioned by our communication with other human beings.
In other words, as we communicate with other human beings, we condition ourselves to think in this same time frame.
Therefore, we think on a conscious level, a surface conscious level, at the same speed that we speak.
Now, when we dream, we go into a faster consciousness.
art bell
All right, now what you're suggesting, put simply, is that we create time.
unidentified
Well, no, not really.
art bell
Yeah, that time is our invention, that we fix ourselves in time by the conversations we have and such.
That is where you're headed, right?
unidentified
Well, no, but you're kind of on the right track.
Our surface consciousness, we create our surface consciousness in time.
And then as we go into our subconscious mind, this is on a lot higher level, and we're able to think a lot faster.
Therefore, we can dream an hour dream or a day dream in a few seconds or in a few minutes.
art bell
Now, there you can't be sure because it may be a lower state, not a higher state.
unidentified
Well, it's faster one way or the other, because at least in our frame of time, because they've done studies with dreams where people have had experiences of a large amount of time.
art bell
I've got the idea.
unidentified
Okay, then beyond that, you have the spiritual consciousness, which is even way faster than that.
At this level, it could be 1,000 times or 10,000 times or 100,000 times the speed that we can think at this level we think when we become spiritual.
That's why when people have death experiences or near-death experiences, they see their entire life pass before their eyes.
This is the quickening.
It's the realization and the seeing of your entire life passing before your eyes.
Now, in the religious context, the rebirth, the death and the rebirth through all the different religious...
art bell
I think such an event would be cruel indeed.
Having written a book, which made me go and revisit much of my life anyway, was cruel enough.
To take me through it again would be totally unfair.
But I suppose it will occur.
Maybe they'll have my book up there, you know.
Wouldn't that be something if I got up to the Pearly Gates and they sat me down and there sitting on the desk was a copy of my book?
Yeah, boy.
By the way, you can still get my book, folks.
It's called The Art of Talk.
And I'm going to even have to dig to get the number.
I haven't even mentioned it in a few days since its signing.
Boy, that book signing in Portland, that was unbelievable.
unidentified
Thousands and thousands of people.
art bell
But the book is and will continue to be available if I can find the number here.
Oh, here's High Flight.
Somebody sent me High Flight.
Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth and danced the skies on laughter's silvered wings.
Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds and done a hundred things you have not dreamed of.
Wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence.
Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up up the long, delirious, burning blue, I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace.
Where never lark or even eagle flew, and while with silent lifting mind, I've trod the high, untrustposed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of God.
Isn't that great?
That's high flight.
If you want a copy of my book, I can take off this page about the book signing.
It's done.
You can still get a copy of my book in hardback, which is the only way you're ever going to be able to get it, or the audio version is out.
Oot, as they say.
And I think you'll really enjoy it.
It's had very good reviews.
The number to call is 1-800-864-7991.
Now, here's the only promise I will make.
I'm not going to do another book signing.
That was my only one.
However, should I meet you, a chance encounter somewhere, I would, of course, sign your book for you.
I would never refuse that.
So, if you want to get a copy of the book, the number to call is 1-800-864-7991.
That's 1-800-864-7991.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello there.
unidentified
Yes, Art.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yes, first time listener.
Valdez, Alaska.
art bell
Welcome to the program.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
Hey, I don't know if you've heard or not.
If Mr. Begich, Dr. Begich has gotten a hold of you, but they plan on firing up HAARP this Friday night.
art bell
We are aware of that.
unidentified
You are aware of it.
art bell
Yes, sir, we are.
And, of course, it would seem to be concurrent, once again, with the shuttle launch.
Now, the shuttle launch has been put off 24 hours.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
So, we'll see.
We'll be watching.
unidentified
Now, what if, here's a what if for you.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
They plan on using HAARP to disrupt the lives of so many Chinese in that turmoil part of the world over there.
art bell
Well, the timing would be just right.
unidentified
That's what I was thinking.
Love your show, Art.
Thank you.
When I get a chance to listen to it at a friend's house and keep up the good work, and I'll be listening to you.
All right.
art bell
Take care, my friend.
Thank you very much.
East of the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good evening, Art Bell.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Rochester, New York, sir.
art bell
Welcome.
unidentified
Okay.
What if and the quickening.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
First, the quickening.
One name says it all.
Popularity.
art bell
President, Vice President Gore.
unidentified
No, the popularity of Rush Limbaugh.
And I would even have to say, Art, and I don't mean this as a personal attack, sir, but I was kind of surprised and disappointed to hear that you voted for Ross Perot.
Oh, I vote that as part of the quickening.
Really?
Yeah.
art bell
Well, it was either that or George Bush.
unidentified
I know what you mean.
Okay.
art bell
What if?
unidentified
What if Howard Stern had been voted governor of New York?
Would we be better off?
art bell
Well, as opposed to Governor Pataki, I would say not.
I would say not.
I would say Howard's better doing his show than he would be in the governor's mansion.
unidentified
You don't like Baba Booey as lieutenant governor?
No.
art bell
Robin as a press secretary, maybe?
unidentified
That's right.
Art, have you read Miss America yet?
art bell
I know.
unidentified
Will you read it?
art bell
It's somewhere on my list, but I can't disclose where.
unidentified
All right.
Have a nice night, sir.
art bell
Yeah, you too.
See you later.
Pataki's in a big fight in New York, you know.
He wants a death penalty for this alleged cop killer.
And the DA there, an elected DA, is saying that he doesn't think it is a deterrent.
He's anti-death penalty.
And Pataki's saying, well, I'll remove you.
Remember, this is an elected DA.
DA is saying, fine, go ahead, try it.
I'll sue you.
That's where that one sits.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Whoa, hello.
Is this Art Bell?
art bell
It is.
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
I can't believe it.
You should try calling your show sometime.
It's impossible.
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
Oh, man.
This is Mike from Portland, Oregon.
art bell
Well, it's not impossible, Mike, because here you are.
unidentified
Wow.
Well, how old do I sound to you?
art bell
24.
unidentified
I'm 15.
art bell
You're 15?
Yeah.
You know, there were a lot of people like you at the book signing in Portland, your age.
unidentified
Oh, man, I wish I could have been there.
art bell
And I kept asking, as I'm going to ask you now, what are you doing listening to me at 2.23 in the morning?
That's the kind of answer I got, too.
unidentified
Well, I've got an excuse now because it's spring break.
I can stay as long as I want now.
Oh.
art bell
Okay.
Well, I'm glad to have you.
unidentified
Wow.
Okay.
Well, let me...
Okay, let's see.
Well, let's see.
I want to say that I've learned more from your show in the two months that I've been listening than 10 years of public education.
Wow.
art bell
Now it's my turn to say wow.
unidentified
Great.
And also, to add to your list of the quickening...
Yes.
Jot down the RFL show.
art bell
Yeah, I'm probably part of it.
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
That's true.
unidentified
You've been spreading the word about it.
art bell
It's true.
that may accelerate the process Yeah.
You know I hadn't thought about that?
Probably part of it.
You're right.
unidentified
Great.
Well, you'll be hearing from me later then.
art bell
All right, my friend, thank you.
Uh the Art Bell Show.
unidentified
Yeah.
Sure.
art bell
But I'm not sure.
You you you could either conclude that uh calling attention to these things either causes them to accelerate or possibly knowledge of them causes a slowing.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
What's your best guess?
Do you think that uh calling attention to the quickening actually accelerates it, adds fuel, throws fuel on the fire?
Or do you think knowledge of it is the only potential thing to slow it up?
Maybe like a backfire.
Now they set backfires, right?
I'm not sure.
I don't know the answer, but I admit it could be, and I have put it down.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Aloha from Honolulu.
art bell
Yes, sir, from Hawaii.
Welcome to the program.
unidentified
All right.
Hey, I don't have anything profound right now.
I just got off work.
Oh, come on.
art bell
Give us something profound.
unidentified
Well, I need something profound, like how to get on your web page on a computer.
I'm not computer literate, but I have a friend who knows all that stuff.
art bell
Do you have a computer?
unidentified
No, my friend has one.
And I told her that www.artbell.com.
art bell
No, no, no.
www.artbell.com.
Gotta have the dots in the right place or it doesn't work.
unidentified
Okay, and that's all it takes.
Just punch that in for that HTTV or whatever?
art bell
Well, yeah, you can go to what's called the web crawler and even just enter the name Art Bell and follow the yellow brick road and you'll get there.
unidentified
The yellow brick road.
art bell
Well, metaphorically, the yellow brick road.
unidentified
Okay, she'll know what I'm talking about.
art bell
In other words, it will then lead you into my web page.
unidentified
Okay.
Just punch in Art Bell and it'll find itself?
art bell
Yes, sort of.
unidentified
Okay, I'm computer ignorant.
So maybe I should learn what I'm up against someday.
art bell
Well, go find your friend and have your friend teach you.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a concept.
art bell
It is.
All right.
unidentified
Okay, thank you, sir.
art bell
You're welcome.
I recommend to everybody that you build some basic computer literacy for yourself.
And if you don't do it for yourself, then do it for your children.
Go out and get them a computer.
They'll learn.
They're pliable.
Their little minds will grasp it quickly, and it will help them through life.
I want to repeat this morning, I've got Vidian on, and Vidian is almost too cool.
It is an opportunity for you to call.
You can go get on my webpage or call my bulletin board and get a copy of the software.
Load it into your computer, and then call and see me sitting here doing my show, and not only see me, but hear me in full color.
And by the way, I want to advise people, you will notice a gigantic difference if you put your computer in at least 16K of color.
It'll work if you put it in there at 640, 480 times 256.
It will appear in color, but it'll be very dithered.
If you go to 16K color, at least or higher, oh, you get a beautiful color picture.
There really is a big difference.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello, Art.
art bell
Hello.
Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified
Off.
Hello, Art.
Okay.
art bell
Are you east of the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
Let me turn my radio off.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Art male.
What did you do?
art bell
Drop me on the floor?
unidentified
Yeah, I had to run and cut my radio off.
art bell
Do you realize that when you drop me on the floor, you're dropping millions of people on the floor?
unidentified
Oh, am I live?
I thought I was going to delay.
art bell
No, no, no, no.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
All right.
art bell
Welcome to the program.
unidentified
Well, thank you.
I just kind of wanted to comment on what you call the quickening.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I believe it'd be better named as maybe the tribulation.
Maybe, possibly.
art bell
Maybe, possibly.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just, I don't know if you get the same feeling as I do, but it's just like no one has a conscience.
Everybody has this demon mentality.
art bell
Everybody has a demon mentality?
unidentified
Or not everybody.
art bell
Most people, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
No, nobody trusts anybody these days.
art bell
Well, you maybe, possibly are right, sir.
I've got to run.
We've got to break.
Thank you very much for the call, and maybe, possibly, we'll be right back.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March
Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
20th, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
art bell
Good morning, Paul.
In Europe, Pennsylvania.
Currently watching on video.
Hi, Paul.
Way back there.
Isn't it amazing?
Send color and color video and audio across normal telephone lines like that.
Absolutely astounding, huh?
Hi, Art.
Here's a what if for you.
What if my mother were my father and my father were my mother?
Would that turn me into a woman?
Yes, it would, sir.
That's John and Old Suzanne.
Only you would never have missed your manhood because it never would have been there.
So don't worry about it.
Or this, dear heart, perhaps this is another sign of the quickening, but many times while you're on the air, the AOL network decides to go down for maintenance, making it impossible to get to your website.
Well, that's not the quickening.
That's the slowing.
And they do that because these are the hours in which they go down.
It's like radio stations go down during my show for maintenance.
You can do it at night.
Oh, well.
Arn I think the quickening is the finale for religion.
It means we're getting rid of the infestation of a belief which worships a God who, if really existed, allowed an innocent teacher to be smothered to death while she planned for her life.
Well, pleaded, that is, for her life.
After we are cleansed of this plague of religions, we can look forward to living a life without the interference and influence of those who would believe in a deity.
Mark the Atheist in Louisiana.
God, I'd like to talk to you one of these days, Mark.
unidentified
I just...
art bell
Or this, Art, what if they constructed airplanes from the same material that black boxes are made of?
Would everything in the event of a plane crash remain intact?
Andy in L.A. He's got a picture of a little airplane.
It's true.
The black box always survives a plane crash, doesn't it?
It's always intact or generally intact.
So he has drawn a picture of an airplane and simply suggests that the material that's used for the black box be applied to the entire airplane.
I can't fault that thinking exactly, Andy.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
Mitch, the Magic Christian.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Calling you from Ventura by the Sea, California.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
Well, I'll tell you, the information dearth that's going on about Hoagland's press conference is, what are we, about two and a half hours or three and a half hours away from it now?
art bell
It's maddening.
You know, it's going to be on the IRC chat channel.
unidentified
I'm not on the net.
I've got a computer, but I'm not hooked up.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Well, I know that he sent out press packets, and I don't know exactly how extensive they were.
You may know more about that.
art bell
Well, I've heard that in one form or another, C-SPAN may be there.
They may not do it live.
CNN apparently has a place.
There are a number of national-sized local outlets that are going to attend.
The Discovery Channel plans to be there.
So it's not like it's not going to be covered, but live coverage, it doesn't look like it.
unidentified
Well, just the fact that there's been the dearth in the week preceding it or since Friday night when he publicly released this information through your program tells me that there is a whole hum, if not an active, conspiracy to keep this out of the news or downplay it at the very least.
art bell
I believe that.
unidentified
And I've got a rage, I'm telling you, that's building up, and I can be a whirlwind.
If this is downplayed, I mean, this is momentous stuff.
It's big.
And if they try to slough it off, I mean, I rank this right up there with fire, the wheel.
I mean, you know?
Don't you?
art bell
Yes, I do.
In other words, if the information is accurate, and I think there is at least enough substance to demand it be examined, then yes, it is that big a story.
I have no way.
I'm not a scientist.
And I listen as you do to Richard.
But he's got an awful lot behind him.
unidentified
Well, I believe him.
Don't you?
art bell
And it's not just Richard.
He's got people from inside NASA that are going to stand up and tell their story.
Now, that is news.
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
I'll tell you, if they try to paper this over somehow, it isn't just stupid.
Like, I mean, he was trying to give them too much credit, I think, before when he, you remember that little bit that he talked about the stupidity of things?
Yes.
I believe it's evil.
I believe that there's evil motivation behind something that big and that processed.
It's a deliberative effort.
It has to be.
art bell
Maybe it's magic.
Mr. Christian.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Two things.
First, there is no such thing as a 99th degree mason.
33 is the highest.
Second, I figured out what deja vu is about a year ago when I actually remembered these events happening before in a dream about two days prior to the deja vu feeling.
It wasn't just a feeling, but a real memory of a dream.
Well, sir, I realize that publicly 33 is the highest.
And I'll just leave it at that.
If you choose to believe I am not a 99 degree Mason, that's your business.
In fact, it's probably better if you believe that.
Wildhard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yeah, hi, Art.
I'm calling from West Hollywood, California.
And I don't know if you touched on the issue of the Menendez Brothers birthday at all or not.
But I'd like to share a couple of quick impressions with you.
About an hour ago, I was going to the market, and I live, if you know Los Angeles, I live off the Sunset Strip at Sunset and Doheny.
And they lived on Elm Drive, which Is about four or five streets due west of me.
On my way to the market, I took a detour by there, and I stopped in front of the house, which is blacked out.
I think they're kind of keeping their heads down, the new owners, because all the other houses on the street are illuminated.
And I sat there, and I rolled down the window, and I thought, those two chumps, however long they live, they will never again be able to be where I am right now, looking at the front of that house.
art bell
That's true.
unidentified
And then I went to the market, and amazingly, the checker knew nothing about it.
I said, well, I'm sure glad they didn't.
The Nendez brothers got convicted.
He knew nothing about it.
And I told him that they had been convicted first to grieve with special circumstances.
And he said, finally, there's some justice in this country.
You know, and I think that's the thing.
art bell
I guess that's the way I felt about it when I saw it, too.
All of us felt that this business of we were, what was it, what was the abuse excuse?
Incest, or we were scared, or whatever it was, so we took shotguns and blew them away in the middle of the night.
No way.
unidentified
Oh, I never bought that.
I never even made a down payment on that story.
But I don't know.
That's hardly anything worth calling you up about, I'm sure.
But I just, you know, I know that you're heard all over half the world, and I thought, well, I happen to be somebody who just an hour ago was sitting in front of them and does.
art bell
As you point out, you have done something they will not do again.
unidentified
Never.
art bell
Thankfully.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Have a good morning.
Art, forgive me.
I picked up a lot of non-essential information in school.
I love your show, but will I ever live without a sleep deficit again?
unidentified
I know.
art bell
Got so many faxes here.
Here's one for your quickening list.
This week, a jury acquitted a man of murdering his girlfriend, pregnant, with her six-month-old child.
There was overwhelming evidence to the contrary of the acquittal.
Also, a woman's boyfriend was convicted of murdering her eight-year-old son and tossing his body over the backyard brick wall and into an empty field.
The woman convicted of endangering a minor and child neglect, resulting in death.
Maybe the quickening is another meaning for awakening, but it also sounds like the end of innocence to me.
Jeremy in Bakersfield.
Jeremy, I suspect the quickening is both at the same time, the end and a beginning.
And I don't know if that makes sense to you, but that's the way I feel about it.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Well, hey, I'm so glad I got through because I can't get through on the east of the Rockies there.
art bell
Well, then you made it here.
unidentified
Oh, that's great.
When do you think they're going to have that cleared up for you?
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
Excuse me?
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
In Denver.
art bell
Denver.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Well, you are now considered West.
unidentified
Well, just like that, only in today's technology.
art bell
Yeah, only in today's technology.
unidentified
I had a thing or two for you.
I was wondering, out of the clear blue, this has nothing to do with what you're talking about at all.
And you might run this by Richard Hoagland there when you talk to him.
Because you know what deja vu.
Everybody talks about having deja vu.
Sure.
What do you think that is?
art bell
Deja vu is simply the feeling that you have been this place before and done this thing before, whatever.
Okay.
So it's either a real memory or there are just things that remind you of something.
unidentified
And I would suppose, I would propose that what this is, is when we become, we realize for a split second that time is relative.
And you think about that before you give me a quick answer.
And ask Richard Hoagland about that.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Doesn't that kind of sound like that kind of makes sense?
Not yet, but I'll...
Not yet, but think, yeah, okay.
Well, anyway, I had another thing for you, too, Art.
I was wondering, since you're getting so many new stations out there and everything, and I was wondering, has anybody ever, you know how I was, like Donahue and stuff like that, they put out a thing in the newspaper the other day that I saw where certain percentages, you know, how much the talk show host will talk during the show versus how much the audience talks.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And I was just wondering if, has anybody ever done anything like that on you?
Have you ever seen anything like that or considered that quotient?
No.
The reason why I'm bringing this up is because it's harder.
I noticed as you're getting more and more listeners, it's getting harder to get through.
art bell
Well, that's not because I'm doing more talking.
It's because there's a lot more people out there.
unidentified
No, I wouldn't dare accuse you of doing more talking.
art bell
All right, thanks.
unidentified
That's what you get your job for.
art bell
Thank you, mister.
That's a good point.
Hired to talk.
Born to talk.
So now, I don't think anybody's done those numbers, but now that you've said it, somebody will.
Dear Art, what if Bill Clinton ever exhales?
Al Gore, what if Al Gore ever gets an original thought or even a personality?
What if Hillary Clinton ever tells the truth?
What if we ever find an honest politician?
unidentified
Wow.
art bell
That's from Nora down in San Diego.
Thanks, Nora.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, this is Tom in Harper, Kansas.
art bell
Hello, Tom.
unidentified
I'm a ham operator.
I heard that you are.
art bell
I am W6OBB.
unidentified
Yes, can I give my call?
art bell
No.
unidentified
Okay, I won't.
art bell
Because that could lead to your location.
unidentified
Okay.
I'm just sitting here waiting for Oscar 13 to come around.
It's down on the...
Yeah, it's down there on the east west side of Australia right now, coming around up towards the United States.
art bell
Coming around the bend.
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
All right, my friend.
unidentified
Well, you have a good morning and take care.
art bell
Take care.
That's a ham, and hams have satellites.
I have been bitching and moaning for a long time that hams don't have.
We're so far behind it.
We should have geosynchronous satellites.
Why there are not at least two ham geosynchronous satellites above the U.S. blows me away.
Why the ARRL, The Amateur Radio Relay League has not pressed for this.
I don't know.
Hams could have a communication network set up.
Well, maybe I do know.
Maybe it would rival too many commercial operations.
I know it's technically possible.
Could it be piggybacked?
You bet it could.
Would it have to be kept in a very small box?
No, not necessarily.
It could be allowed to drift a little.
Wouldn't hurt anything.
That's made me angry for years.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Oh, bestille my heart.
I got through.
You did.
Hi, my name is Amy.
I'm in Michigan.
art bell
How you doing, Amy?
unidentified
I'm doing fine.
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm all right.
unidentified
I called, and I wanted to tell you I have, I would have called sooner if I'd have known you had cats.
I have two of the adorable little vicious monsters myself.
And I wanted to tell you that cats purr for a lot of different reasons.
I know, I don't know if you've already heard this tonight because your show cuts off where I am at 5 o'clock Eastern.
So anyway, cats purr for a lot of different reasons.
And one of the reasons that they purr is when they're hurt, when they don't want to fight.
So basically...
Yeah, what I'm saying Little Comet is probably telling you is I'm scared.
I just got out of the hospital.
I'm hurt.
I'm frightened.
But you're a lot bigger than me, and I don't want to fight you.
art bell
Well, that's good sense.
unidentified
So I'm going to purr to make you happy so that you don't fight with me.
art bell
Well, it worked.
I didn't hit him.
unidentified
Well, that's good.
But I'll tell you, once he gets used to the house, neutered toms are the most docile form of house cat you can get.
So Little Shadow will be kicking cat rear all over the house.
art bell
I'm sure you're correct.
Thank you very much, Amy.
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
See you later.
Little Comet is presently behind the washing machine.
Art, what if David Koresh had simply surrendered and gone to jail?
When you think about it, Waco coincides with the beginning of the quickening.
Yes, things have been quickening for years, but that day is when the madness really began.
Think about it.
Would the Republican Revolution ever have happened?
Would the Oklahoma bombing ever have happened?
What if?
Josh and Auburn.
A lot of people are seeing the comet, and I'm not, and it's really bugging me.
I'm going out after the show, and I'm going to try again.
Here's another one.
Art, I finally found the comet.
Here is my explanation.
It's in nearly a straight line with the two bottom stars, so the big dipper, dipper's dipper.
About one quarter of the sky toward the horizon to the east is a very bright star.
Hold your hand out at arm's length, make a fist.
Just past the bottom of your fist is going to be the comet.
I use binoculars, and I think I can make out the beginning of a tale.
Has anyone else seen this?
Mike in Olympia.
What, Art?
What if someone wrote a book about Charlie?
Would it be called Charlie is a Little Skinny Idiot?
That's Ed in Portland.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, Art, this is Keith.
And I drive between St. Louis and Kansas City.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
On this comet, I'm having a hard time locating.
I can find the Big Dipper and I can find the tail.
Where do we go from there?
art bell
Well, I just read a fax on that very subject.
unidentified
You didn't hear it?
No, sir.
I lose your signal right around Columbia.
art bell
All right, I'm going to read this to you.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Art, I finally found the comet.
Here is my explanation.
In nearly a straight line with the two bottom stars of the Big Dipper's dipper, about one quarter of the sky toward the horizon to the east is a very bright star.
Hold your hand out at arm's length, make a fist just past the bottom of your fist is going to be the comet.
unidentified
Okay, so the two bottom stars.
Yep.
art bell
And then one quarter of the sky toward the horizon to the east is a very bright star.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Hold your hand out at arm's length.
Make a fist just past the bottom of your fist is going to be the comet.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
That's real nice.
And then one other thing.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Is there any way, how do we get a hold of KCMO to get them to turn their signal up at nighttime so I can hear you all the way across?
art bell
Well, they have an attitude.
unidentified
Oh, they do?
Yeah.
Well, they need to change it.
All right, thank you.
Yeah.
art bell
I still say that picture of me in kindergarten should be on a billboard somewhere in Kansas City.
Radio with an attitude is their slogan, you know.
And you have never seen a photograph like that one.
Definite, severe attitude.
Or this from Birmingham, Alabama.
God, everybody's seeing it.
I'm feeling really left out.
Dear Art, just got back from looking at the comet.
First clear skies here since about this time, Monday morning.
Be sure to step out and take a look when you get off the air.
You can't miss it.
A little more than 10 degrees southeast of Arcturus.
In 20 Times Binoculars, it is a spectacular sight with a clear ion tail spreading back toward the west and northwest.
Far more spectacular than Haley ever was in 1986, and it's not even at its closest yet.
Ron in Birmingham, Alabama.
So people are seeing it now all over the place, and I feel deprived.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Arthur.
art bell
That's me.
unidentified
This is Angel from Los Angeles.
art bell
I like the name Angel.
unidentified
I have a what if.
All right.
I had it written down here.
art bell
You had it written down?
unidentified
Hold on.
All right.
Turn the TV down.
art bell
Yeah, no, turn the radio.
unidentified
Turn the radio.
Right.
What if everyone knew that internal Fulfillment was in human self-giving, devotion, and love.
art bell
Well, then we wouldn't have war on crime and death.
unidentified
Wouldn't that be great?
And man would know that becoming a man is from self-giving.
art bell
Well, then, what's becoming a woman?
unidentified
You know, man is, you know, when I say man and woman.
art bell
Oh, you mean mankind?
unidentified
Mankind.
Okay, yeah.
art bell
Oh, I thought that might have been a male bash.
unidentified
No, no.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
You know, I love your show.
Bye-bye.
art bell
I'll see you later.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
That'll about do it for this hour.
In many time zones, we'll be back with more in a moment.
So stick around, be informed, freeze.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March
20, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired March 20th, 1996.
art bell
Morning, everybody, and welcome back.
You know what I think we're going to do?
I think we're going to make this a double pump.
That wants to get you in a good mood.
And this one is for the story I've got for you right now.
You're not going to believe this.
This is...
The government is preparing to consider in England ordering that all 11 million cattle in Britain should be slaughtered in a final bid to wipe out mad cow disease, according to the health secretary there.
Can you believe it?
They're really worried over there.
The wholesale slaughter is, he said, one of the options that is now open.
Your dramatic move in the nationwide BSD scare came a day after the government admitted there is a link between get this mad cow disease and CJD and confirmed it was now known that 10 people were suffering from a new strain of the brain disease.
unidentified
The End Can you imagine that?
All 11 million cattle.
art bell
They're considering killing every last holy mechanism.
Oh, well.
Romeo and Juliet Together in eternity Romeo and Juliet That's a true story.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell
It's Leonard.
unidentified
Well, I've decided to put my select antenna on the Bible and see what I could come up with about your quickening.
art bell
You're not on 666, eh?
unidentified
Nope.
art bell
Ah, that's good.
You don't want to listen to that?
unidentified
I've got three things.
I've got three answers.
The reason, and also the cause and the effect.
The reason, you'll find where it says that in the days.
In the last days, it'll be like the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.
And so you go back to Sodom and Gomorrah and what do you find?
And you find that you find the cause and the effect.
art bell
Well, that would have been the 60s, Leonard.
Sex, drug, rock and roll.
Now we have AIDS.
unidentified
Now we've got a letter from the White House telling about the Clinton administration pushing the homosexual agenda.
They're really pushing it and even demanding that the employees, government employees, take courses in homosexuality.
art bell
You know what, Leonard?
I've got a fax here, and maybe you should try to answer this for me.
It says, what if God was a homosexual?
unidentified
Well, what if he wasn't?
art bell
Well, I mean, I asked first.
unidentified
Why does God call it an abomination?
art bell
Well, that's a good answer, Leonard.
unidentified
Read where it says that the Earth is going to vomit out its inhabitants because of homosexuality.
art bell
Maybe that's what the volcano says.
unidentified
Well, that's what the quickening is.
It's the Earth vomiting out its inhabitants.
It even tells you in there definitely that the aliens are going to come in and take over the land after it vomits out its inhabitants.
Wonderful.
art bell
Great.
The Earth will vomit out its inhabitants.
Somehow I'd rather not be vomited out.
unidentified
God, Leonard...
art bell
But that is in fact the written word, or actually as close as Leonard can get to it.
West of the Rockies, you're on there.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yeah, Arabelle?
That's true.
It's me.
unidentified
All right.
How you doing today?
Is this Tim from Des Moines?
Yes.
art bell
Hi, Tim.
unidentified
How you doing?
I got a few comments here.
First off, with the Richard Hoagland, I cannot believe C-SPAN is not going to be carrying it.
art bell
It does seem incredible.
unidentified
and they have just bought a boycotter.
Well, you know, they're going to cover...
Yeah, totally ridiculous.
Don't even care about that.
You know, news of the century, here it is.
art bell
Unbelievable.
unidentified
Yep.
And also, if this is a dream by a celestial dreamer, he is definitely having a nightmare.
art bell
Yeah, there you are.
unidentified
All righty, have a good night.
art bell
Right, take care.
And don't forget, everybody, that the press conference is going to be carried on my IRC chat channel.
They're going to try and actually sit down there and type it in live as it occurs moreover you're going to be able to ask questions how you ask do I get to the IRC chat channel you go to my web page it will tell you all about it there easiest way I can't explain it all here go to my web page it is www.artbell.com that's www.artbell.com you'll
be instructed.
And it'll begin in about three hours.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Bill from Youngstown, Ohio.
art bell
Hi, Bill.
unidentified
You went off the air here about an hour and 15 minutes ago, and I only caught the last half hour.
And did I hear you correctly to say that Richard Hoagland won't be covered by TV?
art bell
Well, there's going to be some television there, certainly.
But we don't think at this moment C-SPAN is going to cover it, but it might.
You know, plans could change at the last moment.
We just don't know.
unidentified
Well, let me throw an idea by you.
Just for future reference, I have a client and a very dear friend who is extremely big in international television networking, kind of a William Paley type.
art bell
Yep.
unidentified
If Richard doesn't get the coverage, I would be very happy to talk to this fellow.
And if he's open, I could put you and Richard in touch with him.
He might be very interested in...
he certainly has the power would that would that be something you would like me to look into absolutely well okay I'll it'll take me probably a week to track him down and if I can I don't have a fax machine but I can send you a fax from a public place okay and give you his name and my name and you could call him and he's a very interested in stuff like this and may not know Richard's work because of where he is but I think he'd be very interested to find out.
Is there going to be anything on cable in the morning?
art bell
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm getting all kinds of different reports.
Some say yes, some say no, so I don't know.
unidentified
All right.
Well, I'll try to track this.
I will track this gentleman down.
And if he's interested, I will fax you.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Not something maybe to read over the radio.
art bell
No, that's fine.
unidentified
And you can run with it from there.
All right.
art bell
Thank you very much.
And by all means, do that.
Yeah, it's really important that we get some little diddy on FDR's name in political arguments.
That is what they're supposed to run instead of Hoagland's news conference.
C-SPAN was on the fence for the last two or three days, and so we don't know.
The answer is we don't know.
It may be covered, it may not.
The news conference will occur at 9 a.m. Eastern Time.
That is 6 o'clock in the morning here in the West.
Check your channels.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello?
unidentified
Hello, Art Bell.
art bell
That's true.
unidentified
I have to turn my radio down.
art bell
Yes, you do.
unidentified
I'm checking out your arm lengths estimate of the 10 degrees.
art bell
It's not mine.
It was a Faxer's.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I'm from St. Paul, Minnesota.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And I'm also interested in your magnets.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
But I have a Chinese lady friend standing next to me.
And we've been listening to you about China.
And we also, she's teaching me Chinese.
She's teaching me the directions of the compass in Chinese.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
If you face south, Zhitong is east.
in other words america is east if you're in china if you face south Yes.
Well, Zhitong is east facing south.
art bell
But from China, America could be reached either from the east or the west.
unidentified
If it was west, it would be UC.
art bell
Well, whatever.
unidentified
Zhitong, UC, Maranon is south.
Pei Pai is north.
art bell
All right, well, I appreciate the lesson.
Thank you.
But you missed my point.
It's from America.
You can get to China by going either east or west.
Or if you really want to get down to it, get a globe and the shortest route actually would be, I believe, up near the pole.
That's how airplanes get there.
That's why a lot of them fly the polar route.
Lot shorter.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
Arbelle.
art bell
That's me.
unidentified
God, I have been trying to get a hold of you for six months.
art bell
That's a long time.
unidentified
And I figured there must have been a trick to do it.
art bell
No trick.
Just luck.
Where are you?
unidentified
I am in Portland, Oregon, listening to KX.
art bell
Okay, turn it off.
unidentified
I don't have it on.
I have my TV on.
art bell
Turn that off.
unidentified
I am doing that right now.
And I had...
Yeah, because I always hear your listeners with the radio on, and I know that makes you mad.
So I thought, well, I'll just watch TV, and then when I get to, I'll just turn my TV off.
Okay.
And I love your program.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
And I wanted to go to the Civic Center this past Saturday.
art bell
That's the Oregon Convention Center.
unidentified
Yes.
Well, I always say the Civic Center because that's the old one.
art bell
The spires in the sky.
unidentified
Yeah, yes.
But there were too many people, so I didn't go.
And I really want your book, but every time I call, they want a credit card number.
art bell
That's true.
unidentified
And I don't own a credit card.
art bell
Well, you can send a check.
unidentified
Well, I would like to know the number where I could send the check.
art bell
Well, they'll give you that.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
If you call that 800 number and say, give me the address where I can send the check.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Do you have the number?
unidentified
I have the 1-800 number.
Okay.
Okay.
The question I wanted to ask you is: I work at a bank.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And I'm a proof operator.
art bell
Excuse me?
unidentified
You're what?
I'm a proof operator.
What is that?
You know, when you cast a check and then you get your return checks, the amount that you write on the check appears in the lower right-hand corner.
That's what I do.
I put that amount there.
Well, lately we have got tons of government savings bonds in.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, tons of them.
art bell
Interesting.
unidentified
And it's been bothering me because of all the stuff that's been going on with the government.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
If there's a reason that everybody is cashing in these savings bonds.
art bell
They're losing trust.
unidentified
That's what I've been wondering.
Because some of them are only like a couple months old.
art bell
That's even more worrisome because, of course, you take a pretty big hit when you do that.
unidentified
Yeah, because, you know, you only get like, if they're only a couple months old, you only get like $2 or $3 worth of interest.
Right.
art bell
No, that's not a good sign.
And how abnormal is it?
How much more than normal are you getting?
unidentified
Well, see, I've been working there not quite a year.
Right.
And when I first started working there, we used to get like a lot of really old ones, like maybe somebody died and their kids are turning them in.
Sure.
And they're worth like 10 times more than the face value.
But lately, we've been getting tons of them in that are only worth like $5 or $10 or $20 over the, I'm not over the face value of, but like if you buy a $50 savings bond, you buy it for $25 and then you get $5 if you cash it in on the interest.
And I mean, today I did like one batch that I had with like over 100 savings bonds, and the interest was only like $2.26.
art bell
All right.
Well, listen, I really appreciate your call.
I think that is very worrisome.
And what it indicates is that people are getting scared and they don't trust the government.
Now, that'll manifest itself in the way you have described at the bank, people cashing in bonds, and it will manifest itself in offerings by the government.
In other words, one of these days, our government is going to offer bonds to further extend the debt, and nobody's going to come to the party.
When you see that happen, head for the hills, folks, because that's the end of the line.
When the good faith and trust of the U.S. government expires, the ball game is over, that's when you're going to wish you had some gold.
you you you you you you you you First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Oh, my.
art bell
Oh, my.
unidentified
I'm on the air right now.
art bell
That's true.
unidentified
Well, I got a what if.
What if I actually made it through to our bell?
art bell
Then you'd have to have something to say.
unidentified
Okay.
Now, as far as you know, nobody is actually carrying the Robert or Richard Hoagland thing live.
art bell
Not, well, other than my IRC chat channel, no.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I don't have a computer.
No, I'm calling from Tacoma, Washington, and apparently you are not on the air live here.
art bell
Oh, yes, I am.
unidentified
Well, you are not.
Oh, I see.
I'm about two seconds late.
Okay.
Anyway, so other than the IRC, you really don't know whether it's going to be even tape-delayed or anything on one of the other channels?
art bell
Well, I've already described who's going to be there, sir.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, well.
art bell
Should I do it again?
unidentified
Well, please, yes.
art bell
CNN has a place there, I'm told.
Okay.
I'm told that, let's see, who else is it?
unidentified
Oh, Discovery Channel.
art bell
Discovery Channel.
Yes, you did hear it.
Discovery Channel may be there.
C-SPAN may be there.
We know some Houston television stations are going to be there.
And probably lots of others.
I mean, this is just, these are a few I know of.
unidentified
Well, it's the story of the millennium.
How can anyone bypass this?
art bell
Only with intentional thought.
unidentified
Well, of course.
Well, it's been intentional thought since the early 60s, I guess.
art bell
I mean, even, I mean, this is a big story.
Look, if you bring NASA people forward who are willing to stand up and tell their story and say that NASA has not been telling the American people the truth, forget about Richard Hoagland, forget about the stuff on the moon or the monuments of Mars or any of the rest of it.
If NASA people are going to stand up, then the press ought to be there, in my opinion.
unidentified
Well, NASA scientists, I mean, what do they have to gain or lose from putting this out?
Wasn't it true that there was a picture of Apollo 10 astronauts pointing to a structure?
I heard something.
art bell
Yes, yes, there are new photographs, Russian photographs.
I mean, this really is a big story.
Now, I just don't see on the face of it how they cannot cover it.
I just, I don't see how.
unidentified
No, it's, I mean, they will cover the marriage of Elizabeth Taylor to a contractor, but they won't cover this.
art bell
Or in this case, FDR's name used in political arguments.
And that's what I understand is going to be on.
Now, really?
Really?
Think about it.
It's a total mind-blower, as far as I'm concerned.
East of the Rockies, you're on air.
Hi.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
This is Chris from Peoria.
art bell
Hi, Chris.
unidentified
How you doing?
Okay.
Did you get my fax tonight?
art bell
I've got a million here.
unidentified
I said a fax about a sh it's I meant to word it as a what-if.
And it was about a show that I saw in London, oh, about seven years ago.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Okay, it was called Time, and it was written by Dave Clark of the Dave Clark 5.
And from his bio, he wrote it for many years, worked on it, developed it.
And it had many big stars in it, Sir Lawrence Olivier, Cassidy, Sean Cassidy.
Anyway, what the story was about was that a rock star was transported to the far side of the universe to stand trial for the Earth.
And the Earth was on trial because they were of space age now, and because we had so many things wrong with our planet, they either had to, you know, they might have to be destroyed.
art bell
So the rock star represented Earth.
And if you didn't defend us well, we would be wiped.
unidentified
That's correct.
And against them was the Lord of Time, Melchizedek.
art bell
Okay, and listen, I have a break coming up.
So the Lord of Time says, I've got to stop here.
Do you want to hold?
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
All right, stay right there.
unidentified
You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Coast AM from March
20, 1996.
Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
art bell
You certainly are.
Hi, everybody.
Good to be here.
And East of the Rockies, you're back on the air.
unidentified
Okay, so anyway.
art bell
The God at the God of Time.
unidentified
We're just about out of time?
art bell
No, I said we got to the God of Time.
unidentified
The Lord of Time, yes.
art bell
The Lord of Time, yes.
unidentified
Which is interesting because I think Melchizedek is mentioned in the Bible, but I'm not sure.
He had something to do with time, too, as well.
Anyway, the rock star puts up a good case and trying to tell them that, you know, you don't know where the earth has been, what we've been through, to where the Lord of Time says, well, yes, we do.
We've always been with you because we are the UFO that you see, the sightings that you see.
We've been with you since your beginnings.
We even sent you a guiding light to show you the way.
And you crucified him.
And so it's decided that the earth is going to die.
And before it does, before they can carry out the sentence, the godlike character that Sir Lawrence Olivier played, he granted the earth the law of provenation, which meant that the earth had another chance.
The rock star had to go back to earth and try and spread the word to change things.
But if the Lord of time does not think that they are trying to change things, he can at any time destroy the earth.
art bell
I was thinking the rock star would simply make a request for like one more Who concert.
unidentified
Well, the rock star, he kind of reminded me of like a Bob Geldof kind of character.
You know, he went back and, you know, tried to do a little good and stuff like that.
But I just thought, what if something like that really happened?
art bell
I think we'd be fried with the quickening.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, look at the...
They're sickening.
Teachers choked to death by 17-year-olds.
Women chopped up by husbands.
I'm getting tired of it.
unidentified
Oh, by the way, I thought you should have named your cat Woman.
No.
Before you could have run around the house saying, come here, woman, without getting in trouble.
art bell
Goodbye, sir.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
My cat is appropriately named Comet.
It's going to remain Comet.
And Comet is remaining behind the washing machine, huddled in a little furry, scared orange ball, which is where I'm going to leave Comet for now.
Eventually Comet will tire of the washing machine and come out and play.
East of the Rockies, your aunt...
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
I can't believe I got on again.
art bell
Everybody says that.
unidentified
It happens so quickly.
I need help finding the Comet.
art bell
You weren't on earlier tonight, were you?
unidentified
No, I wasn't.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
About two weeks ago, you played Truther or Trash.
art bell
And you were on then?
unidentified
Yeah.
And I got on just as quickly.
Well, I heard the facts that you read, but I think I found the Big Dipper, but I can't see the Comet.
art bell
Well, I can't do anything for you.
unidentified
Well, I thought maybe some listeners could.
art bell
Well, maybe they can.
unidentified
And by the way, I'm in Henderson, if that helps anybody.
art bell
Of course.
unidentified
So?
art bell
Henderson, Nevada.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Listening to KVEG.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
art bell
All right.
You didn't even laugh at my, of course.
People outside wouldn't know about that.
There's a commercial on TV.
Henderson, of course.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
Oh.
All right.
Well, we'll see if we can get some Henderson help.
unidentified
Okay, thanks.
art bell
All right, see you later.
Actually, it really doesn't matter where you are.
It's where the comedy is that counts.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
KQ Metroid in California.
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
Do you think if I held select antenna next to my head, it would make my psychic ability better?
art bell
Um, I think that you would need more capacitance in the select antenna because your brainwaves operate at a lower frequency.
unidentified
Oh, they do?
Is that good or bad?
art bell
Neither.
Oh, I think it's just true.
But it's an intriguing concept, a select antenna for low-frequency brainwave amplification.
unidentified
Do you think it will work?
art bell
No.
I have not the slightest idea, but it is an intriguing, intriguing, intriguing idea.
Out of the mouths of babes.
unidentified
I'll tell you.
So, you know the other night when you were too tired and swollen to do Dreamland?
And you had like old Dreamland but new commercial?
art bell
Too tired and swollen, yes.
unidentified
How do you get the commercials in there?
art bell
Magic.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
art bell
Digital magic.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
I mean, but you have to read them.
art bell
Isn't that amazing?
unidentified
Well, yeah, I kept thinking about that.
I said, how does he do that?
art bell
Well, he doesn't.
The wizards of Oregon do that.
unidentified
Oh.
Did you hear about, what's the Federal Airline Administration or something or other?
Did you hear about the proposal for free flight in airline traffic?
art bell
Well, not free flight.
Well, close to free flight.
In other words, they're going to be allowed to go pretty much directly to destinations.
unidentified
Well, my understanding was the pilots get to choose their flight path.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Can you imagine that?
I was imagining pilots, you know, like cutting each other off and not using their blinkers and shaking their fists at each other and going, I was here first and just like traffic on the ground.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Wouldn't that be awful?
art bell
Well, I would think the guy driving the 747 would win.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
art bell
You know, somebody earlier faxed me a fax and said that airplanes should be built out of the material that black boxes are built out of because they always survive.
Remember that?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Well, somebody has just sent me another fax from San Jose says my callers are scientific ding-dongs.
He said, look, the jerk who asked why airplanes weren't made out of the same material as black boxes, which always seem to survive an airplane crash, what this guy doesn't realize is there's a little guy inside the box writing everything down.
And he never lives through the crash.
unidentified
Well, he's a scientific ding-dong.
That's about as good as an intellectual idea.
art bell
Actually, thank you, dear.
Your idea is intriguing.
I believe it is known that there are some very low-frequency human brain waves, are there not?
Or, conversely, that human brains are affected by low-frequency radiation, hence the worry about harp.
So if you built a selector tenor that resonated, it'd be a big one.
Probably give you a big head.
But it's not as an outrageous an idea as you might imagine.
I imagine Leonard's up there in North Dakota winding more a wire around his selector tenor right now.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Agent 99.
art bell
You've got it.
unidentified
Hey, this is Carl Nicoma.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, I had a question about heart.
Okay.
Now, I understand that it can be used to disrupt radio signals, microwave communications, that form of thing.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Could it also be used to disrupt telephone, from what you've heard?
art bell
Well, I would imagine at the extreme, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
Interesting.
art bell
Because a lot of telephone today is microwave.
unidentified
Okay.
Now, do you find it, along with HARP being powered up on Friday, the shuttle going up, is there any possibility that there is going to be an event in the near future that they would need to disrupt communications?
well not having how would i know i mean if you're going to disrupt the communication uh...
art bell
That would be coming on Saturday.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
How about that?
unidentified
Yeah, I can understand that locally.
Now, do you think it's going to be used strictly in a militaristic fashion like that?
I mean, regards to computers and information being disseminated so quickly these days, the common man has access to information that previously was unheard of.
Knowledge being disseminated in that fashion also.
You know, formal education is beginning to take a back seat to the high-tech education of today.
art bell
Yep, well, the answer is, sir, I don't know.
Thank you for the call, but I have no way of knowing.
You're asking me questions.
Do I think it'll be used in a military way?
Could it be?
Yes, conceivably.
Will it be?
I have no idea.
Is the date of the test significant with respect to either the shuttle launch or the situation in China?
I don't know.
These are just speculations on our part.
unidentified
*sad music*
art bell
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
This is Dave in Phoenix.
art bell
Hi, Dave.
unidentified
I was listening to another radio program.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Early yesterday morning.
A man by the name of Barry Young on 910 KFYI.
He was mentioning that the government was spending a couple of million dollars in preparation for this year's April 19th.
art bell
I wouldn't be surprised.
I was just wondering if you heard from...
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Thank you.
Yes, I know Barry.
Barry's really a nice guy.
unidentified
And also, another thing I had a quick comment on: you were wondering what frequency God would broadcast.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
He'd be on two meters along with everybody else.
art bell
You don't think you could pass the code test, sir?
unidentified
I'm having a hard enough time with it.
I've been working on it.
I'm predicting number 75 for you.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
And I'm still working on it.
art bell
Well, you know what the secret is, right?
unidentified
You've got to learn it at a faster speed than what you need, right?
art bell
Yeah, that's correct.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Don't start and try to build up slowly.
unidentified
Well, I've started at 13.
art bell
That's good.
unidentified
All right.
Well, you'll get it.
art bell
You know, one day, it's like the light bulb will go on, and all of a sudden, you'll be getting what you weren't getting before.
So hang in there.
unidentified
All right, thanks.
art bell
Take care.
Learning the International Morse code was very easy for me.
But I hated it.
Isn't that funny?
It came to me so easily.
Oh, I did.
I liked it for the better part of a year when I was what's called a novice.
But as time went on, I learned to very much dislike it as a prehistoric mode of communication.
But it's still, it came to me very easily.
It just was easy.
Still is today.
The code runs through my head.
I look at a billboard and I reduce it to Morse code in my mind.
Or sit there and tap it out.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Mr. Bell.
How are you doing tonight?
art bell
Just fine.
unidentified
This is Sandman in Seattle.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I enjoyed your book signing in Portland there.
art bell
Oh, you were down there?
unidentified
Yes, it was a long drive.
art bell
And a long line, too.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, about four and a half hours, I think.
art bell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Yeah, I was in a hurting status when we left, but it was worth it.
art bell
I limped out of there.
They had to pour me out of there.
unidentified
I wouldn't doubt it.
art bell
You know, people were complaining because they shut the doors at 4 o'clock.
If they hadn't, I wouldn't have been out of there at all.
As it was, I stayed until 8.30 and I was ready to drop.
unidentified
I don't doubt it.
I don't see how you could find them any autographs.
art bell
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I still don't know how I did it.
I just kept going.
unidentified
One of the things I had for your quickening list, the fundamental breakdown of family values, I think is a big one.
art bell
What do you think is doing that?
unidentified
The media, society, liberals, lots of different things you can lay blame to, but basically, I mean, it comes down to the parents spending the time with their kids, with their kids.
That's perhaps the biggest thing.
And setting them on the right path and giving them a good family, good home to come from.
art bell
There you are.
Well, I absolutely agree with you, I'm afraid.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Hey, one more thing.
art bell
Yes?
unidentified
For your what-ifs, since you got me to read Lucifer's Hammer.
art bell
Oh, wasn't that a good book?
unidentified
It was a wonderful book, which, by the way, I got your autograph and I'm sending you one called Pandora's Clock.
art bell
Oh, bless your heart.
unidentified
I think you'll like it.
It's about a plague that breaks out on an airplane.
art bell
Oh, that's my kind of book.
unidentified
I knew you'd like it, and I'm into it right now, and I can't put it down.
art bell
You know me.
Death, destruction, Armageddon.
unidentified
You bet.
But the what if I had was if Hailbob did the old Lucifer's Hammer's trick on us.
art bell
Course change, mid-course change?
unidentified
Yeah, something like that.
art bell
I think we'd be in for hard times.
People would not accept it well.
unidentified
No, I wouldn't be too worried about how much money I had.
I'd be worried about how many shotgun shells I had.
art bell
The one thing, yeah, that's right.
Well, the one thing, although you'd only be able to kill to the very end when the, you know, you'd be taken out anyway.
there later but you'd want to be there to see the uh...
the flaming head of the comet course its way through the atmosphere searing us all as it Or surely thereafter from the tsunamis and everything else that occurred thereafter.
No, we'd all be seared alive.
Big burned its way into the atmosphere.
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
Nah, what do I know?
Thank you very much for the call, sir.
I was just trying to sound dramatic.
I have no idea.
A giant comet smashing into the earth.
Growing larger by the day as this comet is presently in our skies.
unidentified
Bigger, brighter, closer.
art bell
Eventually to the point where it became the size of the full moon, then twice the size of the full moon.
Then you would see the flaming ion trail covering a good part of the sky.
You'd see the head of the comet with sort of flame sticking out of it.
Coming at the Earth like a runaway freight train.
Sounds like a cheap science fiction novel, huh?
First time call our line.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, I can't believe it.
I've been trying to get you forever.
art bell
Everybody says that.
I can't believe it.
unidentified
Yeah, but Art, I'm one of these crazy people.
I get up at 3.30 in the morning just so I can hear you.
Oh, my.
My wife thinks I'm slightly deranged, but what else is new?
art bell
My wife knows I am.
unidentified
In fact, the other night I, on Friday night, listening to Richard Hoagland, I had began my morning on Friday at 3.30, and I ended it at 2 Saturday morning because I couldn't go to sleep listening to that.
So I'm very honored, and I'm just really taken with your show.
I want to say I'm your biggest newfound fanned up in the Seattle area.
I'm actually calling from a place called Muckleteo.
art bell
Wow.
I've never heard from that place.
unidentified
Yeah, you thought Perump, is that what it is?
art bell
Perump, yeah?
unidentified
You guys had all the funny names, but this is just south of where they make the 777s look at the Ebert Boeing plant.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
But a couple things.
One of the things for the caller who was trying to find the comet, in our local paper, they gave a real good description of how to find it.
They say that you face the east.
Yes.
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