Art Bell hosts an open-line episode exploring Richard Hoagland’s 6 a.m. Pacific press conference (streamed via IRC at artbell.com), HARP tests near Valdez, and the Menendez brothers’ conviction, questioning judicial fairness. Callers link ecological disturbances—like England’s proposed cattle slaughter—to "quickening" or moral decay, while one cites $500B hemp potential to replace oil/plastics. A Tacoma caller highlights NASA’s alleged moon/Mars cover-ups, referencing Russian photos. Bell warns of dwindling trust in government bonds, advising gold as a hedge, and dismisses comet doomsday theories but underscores societal unease over media, family values, and perceived decline. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening.
Good morning across all these many time zones, stretching from Tahiti and the Hawaiian Islands to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands south into South America, north all the way to the Pole.
This is coast to coast and look beyond.
Good to be here, everybody.
First, Richard Popeland.
Mixed signals, we don't know at this hour, and I'll give you what I've got.
I have the following facts.
Well, Arch, I just got off C-SPAN's program line, which, by the way, they said they would update by 7 p.m., and guess what?
Looks like they bailed out on covering Richard Hoagland's press conference.
Also called CNN today.
They gave me a very quick firm answer of no, they were not going to cover it.
Are any of us surprised?
I think not.
I question their interpretation of news.
I ordered your newsletter in mid-February.
Anxiously awaiting my first copy.
Can't wait to read the articles on HARP.
An avid listener to your show.
Find it very informative and enjoyable.
So forth.
Hope in Los Angeles.
Thank you, Hope.
So that's one side of it.
The other side is I just spoke with Keith Rowland, and he says that CNN indeed does have a spot there, that C-SPAN may be changing their mind at the last moment, and the Discovery Channel is going to be there.
Now, that leaves me a little bit out in the cold.
I have no idea what's going to happen.
I do know one thing that is going to happen, and that is the news conference is going to be covered live on my IRC Internet Relay Channel at 6 o'clock in the morning Pacific time, 9 a.m.
Eastern, 6 a.m.
Pacific.
And you will actually be able to get on that channel and ask questions and watch the incoming text as the news conference proceeds.
So in order to get instructions on how to get to the IRC Relay Channel, simply go to my webpage and everything you want will be up there.
That, of course, is www.artbell.com.
www.
for the world wide web dot artbellartb e-l-l dot com and it will instruct you how to get to the IRC relay channel so folks that's all we know right now it figures right up until the very last moment it's going to be touch and go we'll see the times for the news conference are in the morning at 6 a.m. Pacific
time 9 a.m. Eastern adjust for points in between or beyond Mr. Bell just a heads up to let you know they're planning a series of tests with HARP beginning this Friday tomorrow apparently some sort of joint test with the space shuttle Atlantis now get this they said the Northern Lights would be extra special that evening anyway
Anyway, I thought you might like to know, and if you already have this, please disregard.
Love your show, and so forth.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Very interesting.
That fax from Valdez, Alaska, so they're about to crank up harp, folks.
Extra special treat with the Northern Lights.
So that's where everything stands, and we don't know at this hour one way or the other.
We know it is going to take place.
We know it's going to be on the IRC Relay Channel, and we think we know that CNN and Discovery are going to be there and that C-SPAN may be there.
Who knows?
A second trial, as you must know by now, has resulted in guilty verdicts, guilty of murder in the first, with special circumstances.
That's very important.
For the shotgun killings of both the Menendez brothers'wealthy parents in Beverly Hills, six years ago they would have inherited $14 million.
First trial was a hung jury.
This trial, conducted by an eight-man, four-woman jury, and this time the abuse excuse was disallowed.
Incest, psychological terror, all the things they talked about they were afraid of,
them to go into the middle of the middle of the night with shotguns and blow their parents away their attorney said the disallowal of the abuse excuse was unfair and shows that fairness is draining from the system uh Gil Barcetti in L.A. getting a much needed victory after the O.J. Simpson case now Monday the penalty phase of this trial
will take place the Menendez brothers' best hope is for life in prison very possibly instead it's going to be the death penalty why because the jury attached special circumstances to the first degree murder verdict that definitely allows for the death penalty and we'll see in California So,
does this in any way restore your faith in our justice system, justice perhaps delayed, but seemingly done in the end?
I wish the news was better today.
The other story, there are more.
From New Jersey, a teacher, Kathleen Weinstein.
This is a teacher who taught special education to children.
And she was murdered in a carjacking by a 17-year-old.
The haunting words of a school teacher pleading for her life during a carjacking preserved incredibly by this alert woman who somehow activated a tape recorder, recorded the whole thing, including her own murder, on a small, very small tape recorder, unknown to the 17-year-old killer.
The community in New Jersey is in a rage.
Get this.
She had been the founder of a program called Random Acts of Kindness.
Random Acts of Kindness.
A victim herself of a random act of violence.
She on the tape begged him to take her car, leave her life, said, you'll be caught.
You're making a decision about your life with what you do here.
A teacher to the very last.
And then I guess on the tape, the sound of her choking to death as he went ahead and killed her.
You know, I wish the news was better, but it really isn't.
And in New York, a big fight again about the death penalty, involving a case of a brutal murder of a police officer by three armed robbers just last week.
The governor of New York, Governor Pataki, unlike the former governor of New York, believes in the death penalty, particularly in a case like this.
But you see, the district attorney, elected DA, does not particularly believe in the death penalty.
As a matter of fact, he has come right out and said he believes the death penalty is not a deterrent.
Governor Pataki is so beside himself that he's saying he may try to remove the elected DA.
The DA says if the governor does that, he will sue him.
So the fights over the death penalty in New York continue.
I guess what got me more than anything else tonight is the random acts of kindness program.
This woman who started that program dies in a random act of violence, a carjacking, where she's told the guy, don't worry, take my car, leave my life.
And so he just, he goes ahead and kills her.
In Chechnya, looking about the globe a little bit here, there was heavy fighting today.
30,000 dead in that war so far could be the end of Yeltsin's bid for a re-election.
Every village in Chechnya is now a haven for guerrillas, and they're threatening to take more Russians hostage and kill them.
Now, every single night, you see, these people have already lost everything.
Numerically, just about every family in Chechnya has lost somebody to the Russians, who have got 40,000 soldiers there occupying Chechnya.
But every night when the sun goes down, the Chechens grab their guns and kill as many Russians as they can.
When you're dealing with somebody who has already lost everything, you're dealing with a very, very dangerous person.
Chechnya is clearly Russia's Vietnam.
It's going to take out Yelsin.
It's going to take out any chance the Russian people have for real peace.
They're not going to have it.
And they're eventually going to lose Chechnya or kill everybody there and in the process lose an awful lot of their GIs.
Interesting study by the RAND Corporation says the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
And it would seem to be quite a bit of substantiation here.
The lowest 10% of income earners in the U.S. between 1973 and 93 have lost 21%, adjusted for inflation.
In 73, they were making $14,184.
In 1993, only $11,220.
So they lost ground, adjusted for inflation, 21%.
The highest 10% increased 22%.
In 1973, the highest 10% made 89,000 on average.
In 1993, 108,508.
So, where does all this lead?
This difference between the rich and the poor.
Where's it going?
Is it eventually going to lead to some kind of revolution?
People talk about these things.
How do we correct it?
Do we redistribute the wealth?
A change in the tax code?
How do we correct this before it corrects us?
Ross Perot looks like he's going to run.
He now says if his supporters and his Reform Party call on him, he will answer the call.
Sounds like Ross is going to run.
Bob Dole said if Ross Perot does run, it's going to make things harder for him, noting that Perot, quote, has a lot of money, end quote.
Faced with such a choice, what would you be inclined to do?
Now, I look at Bob Dole much the way I looked at George Bush.
I look at Bill Clinton, frankly, very much the way I looked at Dukakis.
In that election, I voted for Ross Perot.
I'm not sorry.
I don't know that I will repeat it this time, but it looks like Ross is going to run again, and we'll see what he has to say.
Dear Art, I'm writing from a city of 50,000 here in Wisconsin.
Janesville, actually.
The quickening is taking its toll here.
In less than a year, our small city has seen two gruesome murders in which husbands murdered wives in bizarre and violent ways.
Husband one stomped his wife, my friend, to death right in front of their two small children.
Wisconsin has no death penalty, so the man got life, eligibility to parole, and 15 years.
Days after that one, a second man shot his wife five times, then dismembered her body into nine separate pieces with a hacksaw and an X-Acto knife.
In the second murder related to, is it related to the easy sentence of the first?
Who knows?
Also from our area, two rapists who brutally beat their victims in separate incidences were sentenced this way by the same judge.
One sentenced to one year in the county jail because the judge said he looks like a nice guy.
The second sentenced to six months in jail and six months work release.
The same judge sentenced a rapist of a three-year-old child to one year in the county jail.
Now, we don't live here in some hit town.
Our area is very white-collar, reasonably wealthy.
I believe an organization making judges responsible for their decisions needs to be founded.
Finally, in the March 11th issue of Newsweek, page 51, there's a photo from the Jerusalem bus bombing.
Did anyone else see the face of a Christ-like figure in the mangled bus?
It jumped out at me and gave me goosebumps.
Curious whether you or any of the other listeners noticed it.
Cindy in Janesville, Wisconsin.
So this brings me to something I'm going to do this morning.
I'm going to do a little rough stuff and a little fun stuff.
The rough stuff is, I've never done this.
I have talked now with you for years, a couple anyway, about what I call the quickening.
And I thought that it would be appropriate to make a list, actually, of things that contribute to or are part of the quickening.
I could do it, but I'd rather have you do it.
So if you have something that you would consider a sign of the quickening, call me and give it to me, and I'll put it on my list.
We're going to make a quickening list.
And then concurrent with that, and this may carry through tomorrow's show as well, I'm sure, I've always wanted to do a night of what-ifs.
Last night, we had several people calling in with all sorts of what-ifs.
And so I thought, why not just do a night of what-ifs?
So, with whatever else you call about, if you've got a really good what-if, I'd like to hear it.
Ranging from a conflict with China to the results of an awakening as a result of the Hoagland press conference.
Anything you would like to do a what-if on, I'm all for it.
So, we are going to do a quickening list, a what-if kind of night, and a number of other things.
I've got a fax here on China, too, from a lady that I will read to you in just a moment.
Now, again, two items.
One is a list of things, and I'll take one from each person, things that you believe contribute to the quickening, signs of what I call the quickening.
We have never made a list.
We have talked many times, but have never made a list.
Tonight we shall.
And then, I know a lot of you are very good at this, and I love scenarios and what-ifs.
So I thought, why not devote a night to what-ifs?
So if you've got a good One, and you would like to intrigue us, cause us to think a little bit.
Well, come on forward.
Give us your what-if.
So that's a kind of a little hint of what we might do, but anything that's on your mind is fair game coming up next.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Music by Ben Thede
You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 20th, 1996.
It's good to be here on a Wednesday night, soon to be Thursday morning in this time zone.
Hi, Art.
The current economy is like a stretched-out rubber band.
Indeed.
The rich are getting richer, the poor getting poorer.
There are two reasons for this.
The first is that to become prosperous in the new economy, you've got to be literate in reading and computer technology.
Second point is not to become a single parent.
I don't think it's going to lead to a revolution with the poor.
What are the poor going to do?
Sabotage the internet?
They don't even have good access to computers.
The new routes to prosperity are not Interstate 5 or Route 66.
They're fiber optics and the internet.
Dave from Merzaid.
And Dave, I could not agree with you more.
And I've said this a million times, and I'll say it again.
Parents, if there's anything you can do for your children that will brighten their future, get them a computer.
You know, the one guy who really had it together on this and was ridiculed for it was Newt Gingrich.
And he was absolutely right.
He made some comment about getting poor people computers.
He was dead right.
People may have laughed, but that is, I believe, the route to prosperity today and for the foreseeable future.
I believe that.
All right, I want to update you a little bit on our telephone lines, and then we will begin using them.
Our international line is still not, well, I'm not sure about it, but I don't, according to what I heard earlier, is not functional.
But I will give out the number just in case.
What they tell me is that, and AT ⁇ T is really being wonderful about this.
There is no such thing, as I told you, as an international 800 line.
But what we're trying to do now has been bumped all the way upstairs at AT ⁇ T. And they've got their best minds, their best computer and engineering people working on giving us exactly what we wished for.
A true 800 toll-free international line.
There is no such thing yet.
But we may be the first in the nation to get it, and they're doing their damnedest.
And so, actually, I want to say, way to go, AT ⁇ T, whether or not they managed to do it, they are making a maximum effort to try.
And I want them to know I appreciate it.
And the network appreciates it.
We're well across the world now on the internet.
Real audio, courtesy of WPSL in Port St. Lucie and now WOAI in San Antonio, which means access to the Internet anywhere in the world.
And you can sit and listen to the program.
As a matter of fact, you can do it while you're doing other things on your computer.
So we are there.
Whether we can get you here or not, I don't know, but I want to applaud AT ⁇ T for giving it a real go.
And they may be able to do it.
And if they can, we will be the first in the nation to have such a line.
Now, what you might try doing is dialing...
It is 1-800-893-0903.
You might try dialing your country's country code first, or our country code, the U.S. country code, and then that number.
But I do not believe it is yet functional.
That was late word late tonight, so I'm sure it is not working, but in case you're out there somewhere and you want to try it, well, now see, speak up, and here it is ringing.
That number is 1-800-893-0903.
I cannot resist.
Let's see what's there.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hello there.
Nope, guess not.
Too bad.
Somebody did manage to get through somehow.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Heart, it's me, Jim, L.A. Yes, hi, Jim.
Hi.
Absolutely depressing news to start things out, so I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a- Boy, it really is.
Comet came home from the vet today, all groggy-eyed.
Oh, groggy-eyed Comet.
And Comet had been sedated after having claw surgery in the front, and he had his male parts modified.
So, plus a little bit of a pretty good cat drug of some kind.
So, Comet was drugged to the gills when he came home.
We put him in a little bed in our bedroom.
I have never seen anything like this in my entire life.
When this cat, bearing in mind now that its claws are sore, they do it wonderfully now, though, and they've got a kind of a glue and dissolving stitches they put on there, so it's really a wonderful way they do it.
And, of course, the other surgery.
So, this cat was out of the, you know, just totally out of it.
And it woke up, its eyes opened.
I mean, we were sitting in there watching it.
Its eyes opened.
And I'm telling you, I swear to you, this is the truth.
This cat jumped up in the air vertically.
We're talking about from dead sleep now, jumped up in the air vertically, five and one-half feet.
I would not have said that a cat in the peak of its physical condition could ever make a jump like this.
But this cat went absolutely vertical, five and one-half feet.
We measured it.
And then he started running around, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.
You know, this plaintive type thing.
And so I finally got him, and I held him, and he put his little head down, trying to hide his eyes.
He felt safer with his eyes covered.
Still, he was crying.
It is the first time.
And then he started purring.
It's the doggoneest thing I've ever seen.
Have you ever...
I've never heard anything like it in my life.
Now, to me, that said, the cat welcomes contact.
It knew that I meant it no harm, or at least I presume so.
That was the purr.
It was kind of like, I've lived under houses.
I've lived in the wild.
I'm scared to death of human beings, but damn, this is kind of nice.
And he's hiding now.
He's behind our washing machine and feeling, I suppose, safe and will come out when he darn well feels like it.
So that is the story to the moment of comet.
But it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
I'm telling you, this cat, the eyes went blink, blink open, five and one-half feet straight up into the air.
This is a serious feral cat, and we have got a real job on our hands to tame this one.
You know, Einstein in his E equals M C squared, in effect, you can take mass and change it into energy, or you can take energy and change it into mass.
The sun burns off its mass in the form of energy, heat primarily.
The earth receives it, and the plants, trees are a good example, absorb the sun's energy, and the total mass or weight of a tree will be greater than the earthly nutrients and water and air that's been put into it.
And so your theory is that the Earth is therefore actually growing in mass as the Sun shrinks.
Yes, uh-huh.
unidentified
And just a little perspective, if, for instance, it were growing at the rate of one foot in a thousand years, which is reasonable, I would think, then that means since its inception, 5 billion years ago, the Earth's diameter has gone from 6,000 to 8,000 miles.
My question to you would be, having thought this aspect of it out, as you have, and it's a good theory, is there anything that would suggest the Earth losing mass by any means?
unidentified
Yes.
When you burn something, you're converting mass back into energy, heat.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, so you burn a log in the fireplace, you're taking all that mass, or a little bit of log mass.
And the reason I'm calling, I've been following this quickening thing for a long time, and I've been writing about this same kind of thing, and I'm glad that you finally have given me a really good name to call it.
I think that all this crime that we see and all of the injustice, I think the crime is part of the quickening.
Since man has been walking about on earth after tossed out of Eden, we've had crime of varying kinds.
But today's crime is palpably different.
In other words, and I love this example.
Maybe I wouldn't say love.
It's a good analogy.
There was a day when robbers would walk into a convenience store, hold a gun on a guy, take what's in the cash register, and get out of there.
Today, they walk in, take what's in the cash register, and shoot the guy who's got his hands up and leave.
unidentified
That's it.
And I wonder why they do it.
I think that it's part of the quickening, the reason we're having the ring of fires going crazy and volcanoes going off and stuff.
I think that's because, yes, Mother Earth is giving us a message.
That's why the sea lions are eating all the salmon up here in Ballard because they're saying, hey, look, you guys are next.
And, you know, my what if that I would like to bring to the table is, what if we realize that to survive, we must find like ecologically stable sources of raw materials and eliminate all the pollution and waste.
All those things could be made from hemp, and we could put the farmers back to work, and we could get a lot of people out of prison and put them back as productive members of society.
A school teacher who actually was best known, I guess, for being the founder of a program called Random Acts of Kindness, was killed by a random act of violence.
Carjacker, 17-year-old, choked her to death after she begged him not to.
She managed to turn on tape recorder.
So they've got the whole thing, and they've also got the 17-year-old, by the way, who they would like to try as an adult.
But just disposed of, I guess, so that there would be no witnesses to his taking of her car.
In New York, a big death penalty debate going on.
Pataki, the governor there now, in favor of the death penalty, threatening to remove a district attorney, elected DA, who looks like he's going to refuse to ask for the death penalty in the killing of a police officer, a brutal murder, I might add, by three armed robbers last week.
So they've got a big brouhaha going on in New York over the death penalty as the march of crime continues.
And it's all pretty bad news, you know, on that front.
I mean, this crime thing is way, way, way out of control.
By the way, folks, I've got Vidian on again tonight.
I've had it off the last few days.
I've been doing a lot of intensive computer work here, and so I haven't had it on.
But I've got Vidian on once again tonight.
So if you're a Vidian user, you should be able to get through at some point.
Natrons, and by the way, we're going to have Vidian for sale, we believe, the first of next week.
Assuming that everything goes well, we're at the final stages.
We've got all the boards in and the software, and the final version is being wrapped up in a pink ribbon, and we're going to have it next week.
Ross Perot now says he is going to run.
The fighting in Chechnya is again worsening.
And I get story after story of brutal murder, husbands stomping wives to death from Wisconsin.
I've got a fax here.
Another husband who cut her up into small pieces.
A guy who shot his wife five times.
And so this morning, I'm doing something that I've not ever done before.
I'm asking you, and I want to provide a lighter topic too, because this is heavy stuff.
We are going to make a quickening list, things going on in society and things we are doing that you think contribute to the quickening.
And the first one I got, of course, is senseless crime.
And there has been a change.
There was a day in America where if you were going to rob somebody, you robbed them.
You backed out of the door with your gun, but you didn't shoot them unless you had to.
Today, they go in and rob, take everything from the till.
The guy's holding his hands in the air.
And they shoot him for no reason.
No discernible reason.
They take life senselessly.
Or like the New Jersey school teacher and the 17-year-old.
He listened to her beg and choked her to death.
And on and on and on.
So that's one item.
And we are going to construct a list of things that you think are contributing to what I call the quickening.
Then we're also going to do something perhaps a little lighter.
Toward the end of the program last night, we got a lot of what-ifs.
I love them.
So if you've got a good scenario, a good what-if for us, tonight is your night.
And I would imagine these two topics will take us well into tomorrow as well.
By the way, here's a fax I meant to read.
Art, on one of your programs last week, the subject was decreasing sperm counts and China versus Taiwan.
You asked several callers, all male, the following.
If they were president and China attacked Taiwan, would they push the button?
Your question required only a yes or no.
All these callers stammered and stalled and gave ifs and ands.
Declining sperm count?
These guys were contributing to the problem.
Now, ask a woman what she'd do in that case.
Well, it cost me $249.95 for the facts.
Yes, I called C. Crane Company that morning and bought a $400 typewriter from elsewhere just to give my answer.
My answer is yes.
I'd keep my finger on the button until they turned Tail and went home.
Is that harsh?
Yes.
Is my answer a little frightening?
Yes.
Dangerous?
Yes.
Let me take care of the button, and the guys can go to work on their sperm count.
Pretty rough.
I'll tell you, over the years I have found that women, as a general rule, have a greater capacity for cruelty than men.
And I'm not saying you're cruel.
I'm not saying that is this case.
This is a foreign policy kind of thing that she's talking about here.
But when we've run into various topics about what would be done to this person or that person for their evil deeds, the women generally have come up with the more constructive, torturous, tales of retribution than have the men.
No, but, you know, I mean, the little guy really needs a little peace and quiet.
You know, he's just been modified in more ways than one.
It's probably just as well that he have a, you know, quiet area to consider that this is not an evil place and he can venture forth.
So I'm for now going to leave him alone.
unidentified
Yeah, well, the reason why I bring it up, because I've had quite a bit of success with cats as far as getting them to come out and stuff, because I've always found that a way to a cat's heart is through his stomach.
the guy postulates that the reason society is degenerated to the point it has now how Because one of the fundamental human impetus and human rights is that of self-defense.
Yes, but people also have a right not to carry a gun if they don't want to.
unidentified
Well, they do so at their own risk.
There are bad people in the world if they can carry on.
But, sir, if it has come to the point in our world where you've got to wear a gun because the crime level or the random acts of violence and death and murder and mayhem have gone so far that the only way to continue to live is to carry a gun and kill before you're killed, I'm not suggesting we have a God-given right to do that.
But if it has come to the point where everybody has got to do that, I've got news for you.
This is not such a hot place to be anymore.
unidentified
Well, no, it isn't at the present.
But once you must admit that there are a hell of a lot more good people in the world than there are bad.
If we get to the point where we see these social predators as nothing more than another species of game animal.
Did you know before you did that of his paranoid, delusional ramblings about pa pajama-clad VCs running through his front yard and that George Bush sent agents provocateur to disrupt his daughter's wedding?
Yes, I've been listening to you exactly here this week.
It's great to have you on there, and I really want to thank you for having a nationwide audience like this where everybody can get their point across and everything.
Well, if we can manage this, you know, the best minds at AT ⁇ T, they gave us a call yesterday, and they said they're putting their heavy hitters, the biggest execs, the biggest software people, the biggest engineers, to work on trying to create the first truly international 800 line for us.
They sent a ship out, I know, and they indicated there was a lot of activity going on, and they were measuring mineral water flowing up at a heightened temperature rate, indicating it was very active.
Now, whether it still is or not, I don't know.
I believe the survey ship has come back.
unidentified
Well, I get a what-if for you then.
All right.
What if during our lifespan there actually becomes a landmass, and me and some friends are talking about it, about getting our own little national flag and going out in there and posting up, becoming our own little nation because we claimed it.
You know, that's an interesting question, isn't it?
Now, I suppose you could go to an island held by, you know, I don't know, some South American country, and make your own flag and your little national symbol and take a Bodeon and plant your flag and suggest that you are a new democracy.
Now, once you made a statement like that, the United States, it seems to me, would be compelled to protect you because we go around taking care of claimed democracies, even many that really aren't.
So that would be your best bet.
Go down and claim the island, plant your flag, begin your little society, and claim you are a democracy.
West of Make That the Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Charlie, Liberal in California.
Hello there.
Well, again, the Republicans have watered down this anti-terrorist bill, and I think it shows you once more how the thumb of the gun nuts are pressing sharply against the top of these people's heads.
I think unfortunately, and here's how I'm different from most liberals.
I think liberals, unfortunately, are the Michael Dukakis, George McGovern type who will lay back and get pounded in the face by Republicans and then say, oh, isn't that sweet?
No, I don't think Republicans only understand one thing.
They only understand being nasty and mean.
And that's where Bill Clinton differs.
He's on the left, but Bill Clinton understands what he's doing.
Well, in a way, they only understand meanness.
Bill Clinton's the first person on the left in about 30 years to understand that concept.
And it's too bad that a lot of liberals don't understand that.
But you have to answer meanness with meanness.
Let me say on these gun wackos out there who want to water this anti-terrorist thing down, it just goes to show you the Republicans are being pushed around and who they bow down to and kiss the feet of.
But again, how in the hell can a person be exp you know, on one hand you have to register your car, and they're saying that bombs don't have to be registered?
What kind of garbage is that?
I think it shows you how extremist these people actually are.
Well, the Clinton administration was thinking of putting a specific chemical, different chemicals in bombs that would indicate where they came from when they exploded, which I happen to agree with.
Well, we'll put in Mr. Clinton's registration program.
Thank you very much.
It'll take care of that.
There you go again.
I mean, hi, I'd like to register this bomb.
Yes, it's a small nuke.
About a kiloton.
About a kiloton.
I'd like to register it.
And then you get a little card you can carry around in your wallet.
You have a registered atomic bomb.
That'd be good.
Brilliant.
Here in Houston, the local CBS station, Channel 2, made a comment about an ex-NASA scientist, excuse me, about ex-NASA scientists.
They were going to talk to the media.
They also promised tomorrow at the 10 o'clock news.
So I'm getting a lot of facts.
Look, the latest on Richard Hoagland is the news conference will occur.
It will be at 9 a.m.
Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific Time.
Now, the news conference may or may not, and we have conflicting information on this, be carried by C-SPAN.
They may carry something about Roosevelt, not carry it at all.
Or they may have made a last-minute decision to carry the news conference, or they may tape it and delay it.
We're not sure.
CNN will be there.
The Discovery Channel is going to be there.
There are going to be some independents there.
If you want to be there, you can be there live because it's going to be carried on the IRC chat channel, which is also going to mean you can ask questions.
So, all the information about Richard Hoagland, all the information about how to get in on the live coverage on the internet tomorrow is on my webpage right now.
Okay, it's on my webpage right now so if you want to know how to monitor that in the morning call uh or call um have your computer call my web page and take a look everything you need to know is up there my web page is www.artbell.com let me give that to you one more time it's up there right now www.artbell.com
now my international calling line somebody wrote me a fax here to art bell come on you know the country code for usa canada you've traveled outside the country must have made phone calls well of course the country code for the usa and canada one yes just one to call a number say 7027278499 a person in a non-U.S.
country dials access code 1 702 727 8499 yes in most countries the access code is 00 in the u.s the access code is 011 calling the uSA from other countries calling as above always incurs a charge 800 numbers are generally not accepted all countries reject 800 as a US area code your agreement with AT ⁇ T involves using the USA direct code so a caller has to dial
USA direct code, then 1-800-blah-blah.
But dialing the USA direct code in most countries I've tried connects you to an operator in the USA.
Then you tell him or her the number you want, if you want an 800 number, he or she just laughs at you and says it cannot be done.
Even if he or she connects you, they may want a credit card number to charge the call to.
So you will not be getting any foreign calls until all the operators recognize your 800 number.
Well, let me tell you, again, signed a self-appointed telecom expert, we've got the biggest minds.
We've had a lot of communication from AT&T.
And AT&T says that they are going to make a monumental effort to actually establish the first real international 800 line in the world.
and they're working on that for us right now in various parts of the
U.S. supervisors and managers at the highest level programmers and engineers beginning yesterday went to work on it big time they're trying to do it and they're saying that if we can you will be the first to have this service the first in the whole country so I'm flattered they may not get it done but they they are people who know what they are doing and so if it can be done they're going to do it now
those of you outside the country might try various means of getting through I will give our international number but as far as I know it is not yet activated there are certain blocks that they're trying to figure out how to remove it involves a lot of software work and engineering and they're doing it but I'll give the number out just in case it's 1-800-893-0903 so if you're anywhere outside the U.S.
Canada or Mexico, try various methods.
Again, the number 1-800-893-0903.
It is worth a try.
Then we've got a bunch of what-ifs here.
Art, what if it could be proven that God is a woman?
I've been checking out the computer pages on you in the computer lab here, and I think it's a really great show, and it's a way to keep ahead of things.
Well it's finally getting to the point where you don't have to be.
unidentified
Yeah.
I had a sort of a what if to give you.
I've been taking an astronomy course here and one of the things the teacher mentioned today was sort of a sort of a gut-wrenching thing to think about.
Instead of Hailbob coming by and taking a piece out of us, what if a star nearby went supernova, like within 50 to 25 parsecs?
Well, in other words, the explosion itself we would certainly see, but it would arrive long after the fact.
unidentified
Yep.
It's uh interesting because I know that uh every about 20 or 30 years we get uh you know solar activity from the sun that really disrupts our telecommunications and all.
This C-Crane fax machine beats the hell out of the telephone barrier.
Dear Art, come on, please.
The quickening is not related to Mother Earth getting back at us.
This would assume that the crusty, waterlogged rock of a planet were an intelligent being that thinks and is using free will to retaliate.
I don't believe in responsible living and paying attention to the environment.
I do believe in that, but let's not get carried away.
Like many of the extreme animal rights and environmental activists, many of them hold animal rights, trees, and now the earth, the planet, in higher esteem than humans, who are the caretakers.
It is mankind that God has given the responsibility to to manage our natural resources.
We are not slaves to them.
Well, in a sense, I agree with you.
I do not look quite at the earth the way the American native does as a living, breathing entity.
However, I think that it is a closed ecological system.
There is no argument about that.
It is.
It simply is.
And I do believe that there is a distinct possibility that when we create an imbalance, that the Earth, not through an intelligent decision, but just through a natural process, seeks to correct that imbalance.
So we don't have to imagine that Mother Earth has a living, breathing will and is retaliating in some way for all of this.
No.
I rather think, and I'll say it again, that Mother Earth is reacting in a natural way.
It is a natural process.
And what has been disturbed is being straightened out.
That doesn't indicate a conscious, willful, intelligent decision on the part of the rock.
Well, I was just wondering, what if every time we kill somebody, that they go to a place of unknowledge and come back to the earth and hang out with the people that killed them?
Kind of it's like a haunting thing.
And so by killing people, and even in wars and everything, we just make more trouble for ourselves than we know.
If every killing engendered a haunting, well, we don't know that it does not.
And people have long toyed with the concept of karma.
You do something bad, and maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually it comes back and bites you in the butt.
So it may be that that's not such a wild theory.
Who knows?
I generally agree with that, and I generally kind of believe in karma.
Things come back to you.
Good things or bad things.
They eventually come back to you.
Anyway, we're going to pause here, and we'll be right back.
What ifs?
The quickening list.
We're going to build it over the next couple of days.
you Dear Art, here are a couple of what-ifs for you.
What if Einstein was wrong about the theory of general relativity?
Instead of things appearing smaller as they travel away from you, they actually do get smaller.
What if our perception of size or mass is skewed by distance, so much so that 90% of the universe appears to be missing?
Hmm.
What if death is simply a disease that everyone has?
What happens when they find the death gene?
What if we are traveling in time in the opposite direction of our Creator?
Wouldn't that explain a lot?
Tim in St. Paul, Minnesota, Tim, he says, P.S., sorry I disclosed your nerdiness at 18, but you demonstrated it yourself when you played some of your old air checks.
Well, Tim, I suppose you were a master of Chinese ancient knowledge at 18, huh?
I mean, I was 18, Tim.
Give me a break.
You know, I was just barely into the world of radio and not into the world of commercial radio at all, and I was just having fun.
Well, I don't want to know what each and every one of the 32 said, but give me an idea.
unidentified
Well, at the end of whatever comment, it was open radio, they asked these people who would they vote for for president.
Yes.
And so we're a town of about 150,000.
And this is how the straw poll of April 95 came out.
Buchanan 13, Graham 3, Lamar Alexander 1, Specter 0, Dole 1, Powell, 11, Wilson, 1, Hatfield, now maybe you know where I'm calling from, and one none of the above.
Well, could it be possible that by going off the air with their open phones of three hours every morning, that in a short period of time people stopped talking to one another and they might have influenced the Buchanan vote?
Well, anything could be like objects actually getting smaller as they leave you, but I don't think it would be any more likely.
unidentified
Well, I happen to think that perhaps Buchanan has the right ideas, especially about NASDAQ, which I think the reason why everybody hates him so is not because he isn't a likable guy or the abortion issue.
I think that the world is coming down on him over the free trade.
I think he missed the boat on free trade, frankly, and to some degree on the trade agreements and several other areas.
I think these were real, honest disagreements, and the voters of America spoke.
Unless you want to believe in massive vote fraud, which some people have taken to believing in in desperation because they cannot understand the vote, then you've got to understand that the American people took a second look at Pat Buchanan and said he's a nice guy and everything, but no, thank you.
We don't want that much change.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March
20, 1996.
Coast to Coast AM from March 20, 1996.
Thank you.
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast A.M. from March 20th, 1996.
But still, as I said earlier, I think it's been shown that cigarette for cigarette, or joint for joint, marijuana has more tars and potentially difficult stuff in it for you than does tobacco.
unidentified
Most definitely, especially since it's been bred from gutter weed to, well, a kind.
Anyway, and the other thing, what Charlie was talking about, I mean, you caught on to this, I'm sure, about bomb tracing and such.
Diesel fertilizer, Charlie didn't know what he was talking about.
I'm sure you being on the internet, you've found out that there's a lot of bomb recipes out there.
Now, there you can't be sure because it may be a lower state, not a higher state.
unidentified
Well, it's faster one way or the other, because at least in our frame of time, because they've done studies with dreams where people have had experiences of a large amount of time.
But the book is and will continue to be available if I can find the number here.
Oh, here's High Flight.
Somebody sent me High Flight.
Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth and danced the skies on laughter's silvered wings.
Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds and done a hundred things you have not dreamed of.
Wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence.
Hovering there, I've chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up up the long, delirious, burning blue, I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace.
Where never lark or even eagle flew, and while with silent lifting mind, I've trod the high, untrustposed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of God.
Isn't that great?
That's high flight.
If you want a copy of my book, I can take off this page about the book signing.
It's done.
You can still get a copy of my book in hardback, which is the only way you're ever going to be able to get it, or the audio version is out.
Oot, as they say.
And I think you'll really enjoy it.
It's had very good reviews.
The number to call is 1-800-864-7991.
Now, here's the only promise I will make.
I'm not going to do another book signing.
That was my only one.
However, should I meet you, a chance encounter somewhere, I would, of course, sign your book for you.
I would never refuse that.
So, if you want to get a copy of the book, the number to call is 1-800-864-7991.
And I would even have to say, Art, and I don't mean this as a personal attack, sir, but I was kind of surprised and disappointed to hear that you voted for Ross Perot.
You you you could either conclude that uh calling attention to these things either causes them to accelerate or possibly knowledge of them causes a slowing.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
What's your best guess?
Do you think that uh calling attention to the quickening actually accelerates it, adds fuel, throws fuel on the fire?
Or do you think knowledge of it is the only potential thing to slow it up?
Maybe like a backfire.
Now they set backfires, right?
I'm not sure.
I don't know the answer, but I admit it could be, and I have put it down.
Send color and color video and audio across normal telephone lines like that.
Absolutely astounding, huh?
Hi, Art.
Here's a what if for you.
What if my mother were my father and my father were my mother?
Would that turn me into a woman?
Yes, it would, sir.
That's John and Old Suzanne.
Only you would never have missed your manhood because it never would have been there.
So don't worry about it.
Or this, dear heart, perhaps this is another sign of the quickening, but many times while you're on the air, the AOL network decides to go down for maintenance, making it impossible to get to your website.
Well, that's not the quickening.
That's the slowing.
And they do that because these are the hours in which they go down.
It's like radio stations go down during my show for maintenance.
You can do it at night.
Oh, well.
Arn I think the quickening is the finale for religion.
It means we're getting rid of the infestation of a belief which worships a God who, if really existed, allowed an innocent teacher to be smothered to death while she planned for her life.
Well, pleaded, that is, for her life.
After we are cleansed of this plague of religions, we can look forward to living a life without the interference and influence of those who would believe in a deity.
Mark the Atheist in Louisiana.
God, I'd like to talk to you one of these days, Mark.
Well, I'll tell you, the information dearth that's going on about Hoagland's press conference is, what are we, about two and a half hours or three and a half hours away from it now?
Well, I've heard that in one form or another, C-SPAN may be there.
They may not do it live.
CNN apparently has a place.
There are a number of national-sized local outlets that are going to attend.
The Discovery Channel plans to be there.
So it's not like it's not going to be covered, but live coverage, it doesn't look like it.
unidentified
Well, just the fact that there's been the dearth in the week preceding it or since Friday night when he publicly released this information through your program tells me that there is a whole hum, if not an active, conspiracy to keep this out of the news or downplay it at the very least.
In other words, if the information is accurate, and I think there is at least enough substance to demand it be examined, then yes, it is that big a story.
I'll tell you, if they try to paper this over somehow, it isn't just stupid.
Like, I mean, he was trying to give them too much credit, I think, before when he, you remember that little bit that he talked about the stupidity of things?
Yes.
I believe it's evil.
I believe that there's evil motivation behind something that big and that processed.
First, there is no such thing as a 99th degree mason.
33 is the highest.
Second, I figured out what deja vu is about a year ago when I actually remembered these events happening before in a dream about two days prior to the deja vu feeling.
It wasn't just a feeling, but a real memory of a dream.
Well, sir, I realize that publicly 33 is the highest.
And I'll just leave it at that.
If you choose to believe I am not a 99 degree Mason, that's your business.
In fact, it's probably better if you believe that.
Wildhard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yeah, hi, Art.
I'm calling from West Hollywood, California.
And I don't know if you touched on the issue of the Menendez Brothers birthday at all or not.
But I'd like to share a couple of quick impressions with you.
About an hour ago, I was going to the market, and I live, if you know Los Angeles, I live off the Sunset Strip at Sunset and Doheny.
And they lived on Elm Drive, which Is about four or five streets due west of me.
On my way to the market, I took a detour by there, and I stopped in front of the house, which is blacked out.
I think they're kind of keeping their heads down, the new owners, because all the other houses on the street are illuminated.
And I sat there, and I rolled down the window, and I thought, those two chumps, however long they live, they will never again be able to be where I am right now, looking at the front of that house.
I guess that's the way I felt about it when I saw it, too.
All of us felt that this business of we were, what was it, what was the abuse excuse?
Incest, or we were scared, or whatever it was, so we took shotguns and blew them away in the middle of the night.
No way.
unidentified
Oh, I never bought that.
I never even made a down payment on that story.
But I don't know.
That's hardly anything worth calling you up about, I'm sure.
But I just, you know, I know that you're heard all over half the world, and I thought, well, I happen to be somebody who just an hour ago was sitting in front of them and does.
Doesn't that kind of sound like that kind of makes sense?
Not yet, but I'll...
Not yet, but think, yeah, okay.
Well, anyway, I had another thing for you, too, Art.
I was wondering, since you're getting so many new stations out there and everything, and I was wondering, has anybody ever, you know how I was, like Donahue and stuff like that, they put out a thing in the newspaper the other day that I saw where certain percentages, you know, how much the talk show host will talk during the show versus how much the audience talks.
In nearly a straight line with the two bottom stars of the Big Dipper's dipper, about one quarter of the sky toward the horizon to the east is a very bright star.
Hold your hand out at arm's length, make a fist just past the bottom of your fist is going to be the comet.
And this one is for the story I've got for you right now.
You're not going to believe this.
This is...
The government is preparing to consider in England ordering that all 11 million cattle in Britain should be slaughtered in a final bid to wipe out mad cow disease, according to the health secretary there.
Can you believe it?
They're really worried over there.
The wholesale slaughter is, he said, one of the options that is now open.
Your dramatic move in the nationwide BSD scare came a day after the government admitted there is a link between get this mad cow disease and CJD and confirmed it was now known that 10 people were suffering from a new strain of the brain disease.
And don't forget, everybody, that the press conference is going to be carried on my IRC chat channel.
They're going to try and actually sit down there and type it in live as it occurs moreover you're going to be able to ask questions how you ask do I get to the IRC chat channel you go to my web page it will tell you all about it there easiest way I can't explain it all here go to my web page it is www.artbell.com that's www.artbell.com you'll
Well, there's going to be some television there, certainly.
But we don't think at this moment C-SPAN is going to cover it, but it might.
You know, plans could change at the last moment.
We just don't know.
unidentified
Well, let me throw an idea by you.
Just for future reference, I have a client and a very dear friend who is extremely big in international television networking, kind of a William Paley type.
If Richard doesn't get the coverage, I would be very happy to talk to this fellow.
And if he's open, I could put you and Richard in touch with him.
He might be very interested in...
he certainly has the power would that would that be something you would like me to look into absolutely well okay I'll it'll take me probably a week to track him down and if I can I don't have a fax machine but I can send you a fax from a public place okay and give you his name and my name and you could call him and he's a very interested in stuff like this and may not know Richard's work because of where he is but I think he'd be very interested to find out.
Is there going to be anything on cable in the morning?
Well, see, I've been working there not quite a year.
Right.
And when I first started working there, we used to get like a lot of really old ones, like maybe somebody died and their kids are turning them in.
Sure.
And they're worth like 10 times more than the face value.
But lately, we've been getting tons of them in that are only worth like $5 or $10 or $20 over the, I'm not over the face value of, but like if you buy a $50 savings bond, you buy it for $25 and then you get $5 if you cash it in on the interest.
And I mean, today I did like one batch that I had with like over 100 savings bonds, and the interest was only like $2.26.
And what it indicates is that people are getting scared and they don't trust the government.
Now, that'll manifest itself in the way you have described at the bank, people cashing in bonds, and it will manifest itself in offerings by the government.
In other words, one of these days, our government is going to offer bonds to further extend the debt, and nobody's going to come to the party.
When you see that happen, head for the hills, folks, because that's the end of the line.
When the good faith and trust of the U.S. government expires, the ball game is over, that's when you're going to wish you had some gold.
you you you you you you you you First time caller line, you're on the air.
Look, if you bring NASA people forward who are willing to stand up and tell their story and say that NASA has not been telling the American people the truth, forget about Richard Hoagland, forget about the stuff on the moon or the monuments of Mars or any of the rest of it.
If NASA people are going to stand up, then the press ought to be there, in my opinion.
unidentified
Well, NASA scientists, I mean, what do they have to gain or lose from putting this out?
Wasn't it true that there was a picture of Apollo 10 astronauts pointing to a structure?
Okay, it was called Time, and it was written by Dave Clark of the Dave Clark 5.
And from his bio, he wrote it for many years, worked on it, developed it.
And it had many big stars in it, Sir Lawrence Olivier, Cassidy, Sean Cassidy.
Anyway, what the story was about was that a rock star was transported to the far side of the universe to stand trial for the Earth.
And the Earth was on trial because they were of space age now, and because we had so many things wrong with our planet, they either had to, you know, they might have to be destroyed.
Which is interesting because I think Melchizedek is mentioned in the Bible, but I'm not sure.
He had something to do with time, too, as well.
Anyway, the rock star puts up a good case and trying to tell them that, you know, you don't know where the earth has been, what we've been through, to where the Lord of Time says, well, yes, we do.
We've always been with you because we are the UFO that you see, the sightings that you see.
We've been with you since your beginnings.
We even sent you a guiding light to show you the way.
And you crucified him.
And so it's decided that the earth is going to die.
And before it does, before they can carry out the sentence, the godlike character that Sir Lawrence Olivier played, he granted the earth the law of provenation, which meant that the earth had another chance.
The rock star had to go back to earth and try and spread the word to change things.
But if the Lord of time does not think that they are trying to change things, he can at any time destroy the earth.
I was imagining pilots, you know, like cutting each other off and not using their blinkers and shaking their fists at each other and going, I was here first and just like traffic on the ground.
You know, somebody earlier faxed me a fax and said that airplanes should be built out of the material that black boxes are built out of because they always survive.
Well, somebody has just sent me another fax from San Jose says my callers are scientific ding-dongs.
He said, look, the jerk who asked why airplanes weren't made out of the same material as black boxes, which always seem to survive an airplane crash, what this guy doesn't realize is there's a little guy inside the box writing everything down.
Now, do you find it, along with HARP being powered up on Friday, the shuttle going up, is there any possibility that there is going to be an event in the near future that they would need to disrupt communications?
well not having how would i know i mean if you're going to disrupt the communication uh...
Now, do you think it's going to be used strictly in a militaristic fashion like that?
I mean, regards to computers and information being disseminated so quickly these days, the common man has access to information that previously was unheard of.
Knowledge being disseminated in that fashion also.
You know, formal education is beginning to take a back seat to the high-tech education of today.
The media, society, liberals, lots of different things you can lay blame to, but basically, I mean, it comes down to the parents spending the time with their kids, with their kids.
That's perhaps the biggest thing.
And setting them on the right path and giving them a good family, good home to come from.
Well, the one thing, although you'd only be able to kill to the very end when the, you know, you'd be taken out anyway.
there later but you'd want to be there to see the uh...
the flaming head of the comet course its way through the atmosphere searing us all as it Or surely thereafter from the tsunamis and everything else that occurred thereafter.
In fact, the other night I, on Friday night, listening to Richard Hoagland, I had began my morning on Friday at 3.30, and I ended it at 2 Saturday morning because I couldn't go to sleep listening to that.
So I'm very honored, and I'm just really taken with your show.
I want to say I'm your biggest newfound fanned up in the Seattle area.
I'm actually calling from a place called Muckleteo.