Dorian Weisel, monitoring Kilauea since 1985, warns of accelerating seismic and volcanic shifts—like the 1992 Landers quake triggering West Coast magma movement or the Long Valley Caldera’s gas emissions. He links global tremors (e.g., Minnesota’s rare activity) to Earth’s core "quickening," dismissing USGS secrecy as legal caution. Callers cite risks from the New Madrid fault, Yellowstone’s rising heat, and Mexico’s Popocatépetl, while Weisel advises trusting instincts over predictions. Ultimately, he frames these changes as natural, inevitable forces reshaping the planet beyond human control. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, we bid you all good morning or good evening across all these many time zones from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands where you can kind of draw a mental picture of the beauty all the way across this great land and then into the Caribbean and then the U.S. Virgin Islands.
And he was shot, assassinated by a right-wing Israeli.
Some right-wing Israeli student who didn't like his relentless drive for peace in the Middle East.
Israelis are nearly evenly split right down the middle on the issue of whether to make peace with her Arab neighbors or not.
Most of America's government, frankly, went over for the burial.
Particularly two ex-presidents and our current president.
But Israel is split, particularly the Syrians over the Syrians who want Golan Heights, of course.
And you recall that Israel once before took a brutal, relentless pounding from the Syrians from the Heights, so they don't want to give it back, and I can't blame them.
Many other Israelis feel the territories are holy and don't want to give those back either, and regard those who do as traitors and regarded Yitzhak Rabin as a traitor, basically.
The assassin was without a doubt one of these people.
He was a lone assassin, although there is late news breaking that his brother may have helped him out, made some modification to the projectiles, the bullets that killed Yitzhak Rabin.
The initial reports of Mr. Rabin's incident, death actually, were interesting.
First, they reported he had not been hit.
Then they reported he had been wounded.
Then they reported he was in surgery.
Then they reported his death.
Now, Libya and Iran both issued statements celebrating the assassination.
The Likud Party, headed by Benjamin Netanyahu, is being very diplomatic and says they will vote for Shimon Peres, you know, for a continuation of government.
At this point, they'll have elections in 96.
So there you go.
I have a lot of questions about this, and I've thought very hard about it all weekend.
And one is, will this derail the peace process?
Well, Simone Perez says no.
They're going to go forward.
So if your answer is it will not, then the next question I have is, do you expect a civil war in Israel?
You have a country now divided, interestingly, just very much the way we are.
How many of you were alive during the assassination of President Kennedy?
I was, of course, in the Air Force when it occurred.
And it bruised America's soul.
And that bruise remains today.
And it seems to me that what has occurred in Israel is going to bruise the Israeli soul, hurt their innocence just the way it did ours.
And they're going to go on now to be split about what to do.
Make peace, hold the line, they're split down the middle.
So it's a big, it's an awful thing for Israel.
It's an awful thing for any country.
When your president is shot because somebody disagrees with him, it changes something about a nation's soul.
It did that to us, remember?
So those are my questions about what has occurred in Israel.
Why what occurred in Israel has the same coverage here that the assassination, very nearly, of our own president did.
I was amazed by it, frankly.
Then, two, does it derail the peace process?
I don't think so.
Perez is going to continue.
No doubt at his own personal peril.
If you were an Israeli, would you give up the Golan Heights?
In other words, which side would you be on?
Would you be with the opposition party, or would you be pressing for peace, even with the Syrians, at the price of the Golan Heights?
I think that I would be with Benjamin Netanyahu.
I would be with the opposition Likud party.
I sure as hell wouldn't applaud the assassination.
As a matter of fact, Benjamin Netanyahu was not even greeted by the relatives of the slain.
Refused to shake his hand, even though he didn't have anything to do with it.
So, you know, if you've been watching television or watching the coverage, that is virtually all they've been covering.
In a survey of the general public, Reuters News reports tonight that two out of three Americans believe in the existence of Satan.
I wonder how many believe in the existence of God.
Do you think it would be two out of three?
You don't suppose more Americans would believe in the devil than God.
More than one out of three people told, or 37%, said they had been tempted by the devil.
61% of the evangelical Protestants said they had been tempted by the devil.
Isn't that something?
How many of you believe there is a devil?
An entity?
Apparently, two out of three of you nationwide.
So there you go.
And I've got a lot more, but not a lot more time, so we shall take a short pause here and do a little bit of business and be right back.
I'm a second-time caller, and if I may, I'd like to run across the board with three quick points.
All right.
First of all, with the Prime Minister's assassination, I don't know what's going to happen with the peace process, but I can tell you that when I heard the news of his death, I had a deep sense of foreboding, and I thought that we are in deep, deep trouble.
And I couldn't help but think that his death in some way had to do with what you've been referring to as the quickening.
The other point that I had, if I could jump across the board again, is close to your Halloween show you mentioned the Ouija boards.
And the very next day, I wake up and I'm flipping around the channels, and not only are they selling them, but they're advertising them on TV.
Really?
And the advertisement that I saw had children playing with the Ouija board.
And as I recall, the advertisement or the heading that gets you at the end is, it's just a game or is it question mark.
And I thought that was interesting.
And if I may, one other quick point.
I saw on the news that where recent Bigfoot sightings in the Washington forest have been What I've heard is that they are going to use the DNA process on some of the hairs found in the forest where some of his sightings have been, and they're going to apparently use this DNA evidence to either prove or disprove, yes, sir, his existence.
It is a comment on the field of candidates out there right now.
And I think Mr. Buchanan, I love Pat.
I've had him on as a guest.
I agree with him more than any other candidate, but the realistic political side of me knows if you say people would be scared of Dole, they would be scared to death of Pat Buchanan.
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He doesn't stand a snowball's chance in having Buchanan.
I know.
You know, I mean, he may be a nice guy and a faithful guy and all that, but just he ain't going to do it.
It was more like, if you'll come to my side, you will be prosperous.
Because it was at a time in my life, I'm a physician, it was at a time of my life when I was trying to get into medical school, and everything was all hope and in the future, but nothing was really happening yet.
You know, I feel like I'd just been awakened rather than I was in a dream.
And the dream seemed too real to me, I guess, is why it confused me so much.
And it was like I had no control of the subject matter or anything because I tried to wake up at that point because I had a bad feeling and I couldn't wake up.
He repeated his offer, and all the time moved closer.
And about this time, he was maybe 10 or 15 feet away.
And I just got a real bad feeling about it.
And since I couldn't wake up, I just started saying, no, never, absolutely not.
And when I did, he started to change and started to grow much taller.
And the horns did appear.
He had ended up, after he finished his metamorphosis, he was at least 15 feet tall, had what they called a classical goathead.
Anyway, and this blinding light came out of my hand, and he was gone.
The devil was gone.
And I woke up, and it was a full moon outside, so about half my room was lit up, and the other half was in complete darkness.
The complete darkness, it was so deep you couldn't see an inch through it, and I got very, very afraid.
I could feel a presence in the room, and so I started praying fervently, and over about a period of about five minutes, the darkness faded away, and it was white, and I could feel that the presence was gone.
We had a Dr. Snow on, Chet Snow, and he concurred with the scallion predictions and so many others that there are about to be big changes.
Well, they refer to these changes In sort of spiritual terms, I'm being a little more pragmatic about it.
And when and if these earth changes occur, there are going to be millions that are going to be displaced and die.
And I suppose you can sit back and take the bigger spiritual picture, but I'm not doing that.
I'm saying, gee, it's going to kill a lot of people.
And I'm being very straightforward about it.
Maybe too much so.
Maybe I'm not spiritual enough about it.
Maybe I should be the one sitting here saying, yes, sir, I'm ready for the rapture or whatever it is that comes next.
Take me up.
But I'm not.
I like to remain around for a while.
I will say and repeat what I said to Dr. Snow.
And that is, and by the way, I was reminded, you remember the movie The High and Mighty?
It was about an airplane.
I saw it and it impressed me as a youngster.
I was very young.
My dad took me to see it.
And on the big screen, oh, it was very dramatic, very.
And they would go from these tender little scenes to suddenly the noise of an airplane crashing through all the speakers in the theater.
And it was a story about an airplane, I thought, crossing the Atlantic.
I was corrected, crossing the Pacific.
And in the days of early prop plane, trans-Atlantic or Pacific flight, there was something called a point of no return.
Now with a modern 747, assuming it doesn't go into pieces in the air, there is no such thing.
At nearly any point, they can turn around and have enough fuel to go back to the point from which they took off.
But in the old days, there was a little red light that would come on in the cockpit, and it meant point of no return.
In other words, you have now used up over half your fuel.
So you have no choice.
And if anything goes wrong, there is no going home.
You can only go forward toward whatever is next, Paris, London, whatever.
And I said to Dr. Snow, and I will say to you now, that I think humanity's little red light blinked on some time ago.
And that is not to say doomsday is now or even around the corner.
It is to say that we have now gone past the point of no return, socially, economically, politically, in every way you can imagine, and we are going to go on to whatever is next.
Now, you can look at that in a dark way or not.
I do not necessarily.
I just look at it sort of pragmatically the way I am.
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Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from November 6, 1995.
And then one night, late at night when I was coming home, around 1.30 in the morning, I finally got the 800 number and I was a happy camper.
Anyway, I wanted to say to you, I agree with you on the quickening taking place.
And I think it's something that's caused great contemplation in my life about my individual existence here on Earth and about what's going on around me.
And I agree with you on your perception of the fact that I think that the quickening that's taking place is not necessarily a positive thing.
A lot of people are going to be eliminated and kicked on over to the other side.
In other words, I've got more to do in life ahead of me, and I am not ready to call it quits.
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My question is, is that or no, not a question, it's just a general open-ended statement.
I agreed with you when you said about a week, two weeks ago that Bill Clinton would probably do anything he would want he can to try to get reelected as president of the United States.
Well, you're agreeing with me too much, sir, so I've got to go.
Thank you very much for the call.
You know, I don't know.
I knew what the communists were about.
Their agenda was very clear, very, very clear.
And they weren't ashamed to say what it was.
So I knew what the communists were.
I know what we are.
But I don't know what Bill Clinton is.
I don't even think Bill Clinton knows what Bill Clinton is.
So he's changing on everything.
Now all of a sudden, well, maybe seven years we can do it.
He's looking at the Republican welfare proposals now in a better light.
The White House has been sending up flags saying He may be changing his mind and prepared to sign whatever it is that comes to him in terms of welfare reform.
I really believe that if Bill Clinton needed to do it, he would declare himself a Republican.
So really what you're saying is you're glad Rabin is dead.
You think he ordered the hit, in essence?
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No, no, what I'm saying is I'm not glad Rabin is, and I think it's a terrible thing, but I'm just saying that the scripture says that he had blood on his hands and that the wicked shall not enjoy the fullness of their years, that they'll be cut off from the land of the living.
And I think he had the blood of our servicemen on his hands.
Okay, in a moment, we're going to get eclectic on you, and we're going to the big island of Hawaii.
I'll tell you about it in a moment.
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I'll tell you about it in a moment.
Thank you.
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We know that so much of real, important information has been hidden purposely because the people in power always consider that kind of knowledge on a need-to-know basis.
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Music Now, Dorian Weissel is about to be on the air, and I probably got his name wrong.
It's spelled...
Here's what he wrote to me in part.
I have been encouraged by several people to contact UART.
I've been documenting the volcanic activity at Kilauea Volcano on the island of Hawaii since 1985.
He lives there.
He has three books out on the subject, Fire on the Mountain, published by Chronicle Books, the latest.
As a part of what I do, I work in association with USGS at the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory.
I, as you, feel Gordon Michael Scallion is on the money, not only because of his presentation of sincerity, but because of the information that I am in contact with via my associations with scientists who work in the related fields.
There are a number of very significant events that have already occurred in California that suggest not to those who, quote, feel, end quote, but those who quote think end quote, that the tectonic and volcanic events are changing in their nature very dramatically right now.
Now, he spells his last name W-E-I-S-E-L.
And there would be a lot of people out there, cruel people, I'm sure, who would pronounce his last name Weasel, but Weasel, he is not.
And actually moved here as a carpenter and became very, very fascinated by the volcanic activity and made a major jump in my life where I just weaseled my way into a profession other than the one that I sort of took up as a young adult, and that being specifically photographically documenting volcanic activity.
And if you're aware of the areas, the national park system has control over the summit area.
And it's one of the most wonderful national parks I'd ever recommend anyone to visit.
In any event, Kilauea is considered one of the most, if not the most, active volcano on the planet.
And generically, we all believe Kilauea to be a very benign volcano.
Those in this lifetime who have visited this area are usually greeted by activity if it's happening that they can approach in one way or another safely to some degree.
But in reality, Kilauea is as deadly of a volcano in the long term, as any other of the stratovolcanoes around the Ring of Fire?
Well, in its nearly constant activity, there's some lava flow right and smoke and belching and all the rest of it.
So there's not much to the theory that you know, a lot of people, for example, with respect to earthquakes in the central part of California, think that if there are a lot of small earthquakes, that is cool because it is relieving tension and preventing a big slippage.
Now, I guess that's not true in the world of volcanoes necessarily, huh?
Well, earthquakes have to be broken down into several categories initially.
What is generating the earthquake would have to be brought in right off the bat.
Like, if rock is moving, you have two rigid pieces of rock that are in some sense separate from each other and one moves adjacent to the other and bangs into it, it creates a ripple, a sound wave, an earthquake that travels through the ground.
And we understand that one.
When magma moves underground, it too causes sound waves or earthquakes, generates energy that has to propagate through the rock around it.
And those two are in that same generic class called earthquakes.
One of the earthquakes that are volcanic, if you will, or magmatic in their origin are usually in the form of tremor and have a much different signal if you were to look at this on the way scientists plot this information than a rigid earthquake that is a release of energy that's at a very specific instant and then dies out.
Yeah, that could be in either one of those categories, but it was obviously volcanic in nature.
But was a piece of the volcanic edifice slipping and causing an earthquake, or was magma intruding and causing the mountain to move aside to allow for this new material to enter into the mountain itself?
A lot of people have been asking me to do this, so here it comes.
This was sent to me by Gordon Michael Scallion November 1st.
It was a special bulletin.
Blah, blah, blah.
Let's see.
Earth change activities continue to increase along the ring of fire.
Already this year, the record for the number of yearly earthquakes greater than 6.0 has been broken.
We still have over two months remaining in the year.
I have been warning since 1993, I considered activity at Mount Poco, I'm going to call it.
It's P-O-C-O-A-T-E-P-E-T-I, still can't pronounce it, in Mexico to be a precursor to quakes ranging in magnitude from 8 plus minus, plus or minus a 0.5 in the Mexico City region.
On September 14th, a magnitude 7.5 hit near Mexico, the Pacific coast of Mexico, and October 9th, a 7.9 hit the very same region.
POCO came to life, I call it that, in 94 and is now once again active.
I consider the recent activity in Mexico as the beginning of a three-month window for earth changes to occur along the west coast of the U.S. Other events that send up early warning flares for me are the recent eruptions of volcanoes in Japan.
They have triggered thousands of small earthquakes in that region and increased the risk of a major quake or blow-off that may occur in the region shortly.
If my window is correct, time may be short for this and other predictions to occur.
The following is a summary of previously published ECR predictions, Earth Changes Report predictions, for the 1995-96 timeframe concerning the U.S. Quakes to occur along the west coast of the U.S. in a domino fashion.
High-risk areas, epicenters or areas affected by quakes are Palm Springs, San Diego, Sonoma County, the San Francisco Bay Area, including Sacramento, Oakland, San Jose.
Some quakes will be greater than magnitude 8.0.
Some seismic monitors will record earthquakes of 9.0 or greater.
Will there be other early warning signs?
I am watching Japan, the Indian Ocean region, Mount Vesuvius in Italy, and the U.S. Cascades region very closely now.
Major activity in any of these areas would indicate potential earth change activity to occur within weeks, perhaps days, along a line drawn from Vancouver, B.C. to Eureka, California to San Diego.
A final note.
If you live in a high-risk area, it is better to be prepared.
If the quake doesn't occur, it becomes a blessing, and you'll be better prepared for when it does.
Even the scientific community is now saying the big one can occur now, any time.
All right.
Now, Dorian, you are caught up.
There it was, a sort of a fast bulletin from Scallion.
And what I would like to do is find out generally whether you agree with that assessment.
My business really is not in the futuristic, but in trying to articulate what information about currently what's going on and let individuals draw their own conclusions.
What is going on is a very elaborate, dramatic story that is told by the earth.
And if scientists were only savvy and telling the story, everyone would be totally attracted to what they have to say.
But they really are just being scientists.
And we really should be very appreciative of that in itself.
In any event, the scientists that have spent a good portion of their time looking at the lower portion of what we call the San Andreas Fault put out a notice a couple years back actually spelling out the potential for minimally a 7.5 if not moving into the lower 8.8, 0.2 and 0.3.
They published reports talking about an area that is running through the San Bernardino Mountains and specifically spoke about an area with a town called Wrightwood.
And this was information that was published just after an earthquake that occurred that we all refer to as the Landers earthquake.
Now the Landers earthquake, as far as I'm concerned, is probably the most significant earthquake that has happened in the latter part of the century.
Why?
Because of a few things that have happened at the exact instant that the earthquake occurred.
Every magma body in the west coast, minimally, and there's evidence spreading further out, but every magma body along all the entire Cascade Range, in the Sierras, every known magma body shook at the exact instant of the earthquake.
Not later, not as normal scenarios would have it, which is with the force leaving the point that it's released and propagating out and then reaching an area in which a magma body exists.
Well, let me give you another component of its unusual behavior.
Landers is located essentially at the southeast corner of the San Andreas Fault, where it comes up from the Baja and then turns and goes west into the LA area and then once again turns north.
Landers is in the area where it comes from the south and then turns going west.
And during the earthquake, at the incident of the earthquake, the earth ruptured for an area approximately 18 miles long in a track running north from Landers.
Rather than along the San Andreas Fault, the Earth cracked open in a line opposing that strike.
And the interesting thing about this is that crack has been interpreted as the beginning of the next segment of the continent being sectioned off.
And all our lives, we've known that the San Andreas Fault is a line of demarcation between a transient piece of rock of the earth being the land on the west side of the San Andreas Fault, as opposed to what we believe has been the stable land on the east side of the San Andreas Fault.
Well, scientists are believing now that this line represents the next section of the continent being sectioned off.
Now, the interesting thing about that is that that line is in line with the backside of the Sierra Nevada range.
This mountain is erupting, and so it's under the pressure, but the pressure is vertically, you know, it's coming up.
Yes.
If the mountain were to begin to drain, and it has done this repetitively throughout its history, the last time in 1924, but realistically in 1790, it blew its top off.
Kill away, it blew its top-off in as dramatic, if not greater, a bang than Mount St. Helens when it blew off.
Yeah, well, I don't know a lot about volcanoes, but they form domes, right, at times, and then that creates, the pressure begins to build and build and build, just like in a bomb, really.
Hawaii is a shield volcano, and essentially the magma is coming from deep within the earth rather than the source of magma in stratovolcanoes being more shallower magma.
My guest is Dorian Weisel, and he is about a quarter mile from the Kilauea crater.
Active crater on Kilauea, on the big island in Hawaii, and he'll be back here in just one second.
You know, he says he doesn't mind living a quarter mile from the crater, but somehow I don't think I could do it.
I'd have dreams about waking up in the middle of the night to a sort of a sizzling sound, looking down and seeing hot lava all around my bed, filling up my house like water would fill a house during a rainstorm, slowly rising higher and higher.
Just one little brief fact from Bryn Marie in San Francisco, who says, if the picture on a vase, people, can somehow glaze my ex-husband's picture onto the inside of a chamber pot, then sign me up.
With that in mind and passing that to scientists, dear friends of mine, seismologists, who at the first hearing of your interview with Gordon said, this guy's off the wall.
But all of them came back within a week and said, you know, everything he says makes a lot of sense.
What I do is I document photographically for my own affairs, for my business, volcanic activity in Hawaii.
And by doing so, and having spent a long time in working side by side with the scientists that also document that activity, but to them, photographs are a tool to document towards the documentation of the actual behavior of the Earth.
But in keeping in close contact with them and also working in such as sharing camps and building camps for them and offering my services in any way I can, the U.S. Geological Survey is one of the most poorly funded branches of our government.
And if anybody could do anything to help these people, I mean, they're almost like saints in some sense that they get kicked around by our Congress so repetitively and keep trying to do what is interpretive work for us as a population.
I went to individuals that were environment, educational, and scientific and in the U.S. Geological Survey and asked them to review this idea that I am able to interpret.
When he calls it wrong in a sense on details, it's obvious that he's just trying to fill in the gaps, but he has a very clear picture.
And he shouldn't even have to try to fill in the gaps.
In other words, they said this would be, this is something that from their perspective, in other words, in their way they focus on what they do in their trade.
They never put these pieces together as loosely.
They're more involved in the detail of a phenomenon.
But given some time for some free thinking, rather than jumping at saying, no, that sounds very, very off the wall, they were able to say, listen, this isn't as off the wall as it initially sounds.
It does fit what we know about Earth and Earth changes.
All long-term geologic age changes on this Earth are known to occur dramatically.
We do not have the rising and the falling of sea level happen over tens of or hundreds of years.
It happens in five years when it happens.
We have dramatic changes.
The Earth is not perfectly spherical.
It wobbles, and the forces have to be released occasionally.
We know we have dramatic changes in the location of where our poles, our magnetic poles exist.
We have dramatic changes in where our actual true poles lie.
These are changes that don't come just over long-winded periods of time.
These are changes that come very dramatically.
Right now, with the addition of man, we can talk about some of them, but the ones that we're focusing on are ones that man really doesn't have an impact on.
And yes, I see every sign that says in the areas that I focus on, there's a dramatic change occurring.
I would like to put closure on the little scenario of the Landers earthquake in that strike of that new fissure that I spoke about going north from the town of Landers leads up the backside of the Sierras.
And on the backside of the Sierras, there is another drama unfolding that other scientists look at, volcanologists, not seismologists, essentially.
And that is the Long Valley Caldera.
And the Long Valley Caldera is essentially occupied by Mono Lake.
Some of us know that.
Highway 395 goes through that region.
Since 1983, that area has been inflating at a very large rate.
Inflation is a term we use when we see the surface of the earth rise.
And the reason it's rising there is because magma is intruding into the area.
Since last spring or last winter, there has been a massive amount of volcanic gas issuing from the ground there.
Enough volcanic gas to suggest that magma is getting very close to the surface.
I've heard quotes that say there's more gas venting out of that ground there now than venting out of Kilauea here.
And we can account for that gas coming out because we know the lava that's coming out is bringing the gas with it.
And so we have a volume, we have a lava, we know, but we've got more of that same kind of volcanic and nature gas venting out of Long Valley caldera.
Now, if you say that the Earth has begun cracking in a new place, in a new strike, and that strike is leading to an active accumulating magma body, that is two and two.
The last time the Long Valley caldera erupted, it is, by the way, I believe, the largest magma accumulation, well, magma body in the continental United States.
And the last time it erupted, it covered the entire United States in ash.
this is the theater of the mind, radio, and so here we've got this iron core, and if it shifts to one side, then it puts pressure on the magma universally or specifically?
What Gordon said, what you said in his press release is backed up by all sorts of press releases.
If people were just to follow the weekly, the little weekly report that comes out in People's Sunday papers, the Earthwatch report, you would know that they've been reporting the highest records of earthquakes per month in the six and above category all over the place.
We are in a very heightened state of something.
But that alone, I'm trying to point out for those in the California area that we're not just in a heightened state of having earthquakes generically, but those earthquakes are also showing us heightened states of dramatic changes.
Gordon says the first break in California will essentially be along the San Andreas Falls.
He in your interview said Eureka through Bakersfield.
We had a series of earthquakes in the Eureka area that were given a name, I believe, a Ferndale earthquake or Lolita earthquake a couple years ago.
And the aftershock sequence in that area has been very unusual in that there are all sorts of suggestions, going back to our defining earthquakes generated by earthquakes or earthquakes generated by movement of magma, there are all sorts of suggestions of magma moving in the southern Humboldt County to northern Mendocino County area ever since those two earthquakes a couple years ago.
And this is unheard of.
This is magma moving in an area that has never seen any magma moving underneath it.
And I've also seen and heard talk of magma moving since that time in an area in southern Oregon that has never seen magmatic movement before.
And this would be in keeping with Gordon's views, Gordon's feelings, Gordon's visions.
And that's why I was compelled to communicate with you is because these are just pieces.
And I would not want to draw conclusions for anyone.
But with Gordon, with people, and I can feel them reaching through you saying, you know, we got that much, but, you know, I actually personally know people rearranging their lives based on hearing the interviews that you had.
If you want to give another bend to your concept of quickening, you know, it's essentially what I believe I see all the people around me going through is an internal search for a betterment, a way.
And they're still bouncing up against the wall.
They're still trying their damnedest to be good people and somehow hitting hard.
And to have so much hell on this earth, so many starving people, so many hurt people, so many people trying and not accomplishing.
About a week later, he says, they came back and most of them, or all of them, said, well, maybe.
And Dorian has written a book with regards, actually three books, the latest of which is Fire on the Mountain.
Pretty good title for a book, huh?
And we'll get back to him in your questions in just a moment.
We are going to open the lines.
I've got a cool fax for him here, too.
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Give me an overview of your perception of the occult.
We know that so much of real, important information has been hidden purposely because the people in power always consider that kind of knowledge on a need-to-know basis, and you don't need to know.
All you need to do is do what you've always done, just watch the ball games and be entertained and watch television.
You don't need to do any thinking and start questioning the powers that be.
And that fault was essentially 90 degrees to the fault, the fissure that I'm talking about having opened up, or almost, in a sense, creating a triangle between that north running crack and the San Andreas fault.
Essentially, you can imagine how the Earth would, as it's trying to stretch, have to break up, because it's rigid, having to break up into these sections that are definitely in response to a bigger picture, i.e.
What dropped my jaw so hard was Scallion said, watch Aetna and Vesuvius.
Well, I got a newspaper article from Europe saying there have been many, many quakes suddenly under Aetna as well.
And on the CBS piece of Sunday a week ago, they said they have now called for a voluntary evacuation of the area around Vesuvius where there, you know, 25, in 79 A.D., I think 25,000 died.
I've had a lot of callers from South Dakota, a lot of listeners up in Sioux Falls in that area, suddenly phoned in and said, my God, we're beginning to have earthquakes.
And normally the Dakotas and Wisconsin, these are not earthquake-prone areas.
It's just that we're talking about time scale and that in the longer range picture, there's a massive amount of earthquakes that we know about have occurred over time back there.
And it's just a matter of what's the mechanism involved in that because they aren't as frequent, the amount of study, I believe, hasn't been the same as we see in California.
Going back to if the core of the Earth shifts, everything has to reflect that change.
One of another clues that I would suggest everyone be attentive to is that for the last couple months, Yellowstone National Park has shown signs of potential renewed volcanic activity.
And that's another key of something further east.
I really don't have a larger view of that whole part of the world.
It's just that these are unusual events in themselves, and they fall in line as pieces of the puzzle, if you will.
But if there was this giant shift of the core and magma shift along with it, is it not likely that Kilauea would, when this all begins, Kilauea would react as well?
All the islands were made while the crust that they sit on now was sitting here.
And because of plate tectonics, they've been moved away.
Now, the island of Hawaii has been above The ocean for only a half a million years.
But currently, the island is subsiding, losing ground, losing real estate at a rate of ten times greater than the amount of lava coming out of the volcanoes.
So that's to say that realistically, we are not in our lifetime now seeing the normal state of affairs in terms of the geologic phenomenon here.
It should be erupting minimally 10 times greater than it is.
And the figures that we're talking about is over the last couple hundred years in terms of how much has erupted, not today.
Or maybe we might think of it in terms of the warmer waters going there.
What's happening in the Atlantic is we all know about the currents circling the Atlantic and the sailors using them repetitively once they figured that out.
Well, there is something going on in the mid-Atlantic, east of Florida, southeast of Florida.
Something is spinning off all these weather systems.
There is some change in the environment.
I actually would take a really put my head on the block and suggest that all of the effluents being emitted by the exhaust systems of the space shuttle flights might have actually some direct effect there.
We're emitting an awful lot of pollutants into our upper atmosphere at a horrendous rate.
And so that would lead to, they say, a very large amount of ozone depletion in the area, thus a whole lot more of the ultraviolet radiation getting through and warming the ocean, which is the source of the heat we're talking about in that instance.
But also, Gordon mentioned something about Mount Pele in the Caribbean erupting or thereabouts.
And we have a volcano that has never before been known to erupt, which is the island adjacent to Martinique.
And so we have, essentially, given this concept of an underlying change, magma is what we know about as lava on the surface of the Earth is a process of the Earth cooling.
Over time, the Earth is any other satellite in space.
It's in a very cold environment by itself.
It has no source of renewable energy.
And it is cooling.
Any disruption in that whole process will possibly open up the seams, if you will.
And so I come at the idea of your quickening from another vantage point, but I think we're verging on the same thing.
I think it's now is the time that we are essentially evened out, if you will.
How much of the changings of the volcanoes of the hurricanes of the different elements going, how much of it can be, I feel, can be contributed to the space program because every time they send something up there, we have a disaster someplace with hurricanes or with too much rain or with flooding or whatever.
Well, the main component of ozone depletion is chlorine, and it's a main component of the exhaust of the solid rocket boosters of the space shuttle.
There have been many groups outside of the United States who have begged our government, through the auspices of the United Nations, to stop the space shuttle program until we figure out another fuel.
In other words, some of your relatives may have been tossed into Dorian's volcano.
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Yes, and I'm very impressed with his intellect.
And I sense he has also, I don't know how long you've been on the island, but I sense you have a cultural feeling as well, which adapts to your philosophy with what you're saying.
It's such a connection with Michael and Michael McGallion and yourself.
And you folks come from the complete opposite perspective.
And I really am proud of hearing somebody like you on our island.
I'd like to ask actually several different things, but they relate to a seven-planet conjunction that begins on November 22nd and would actually run through Thanksgiving Day as well.
Are seismologists looking at this as possibly a key trigger?
If we had to care for each other instead of care for our own desires, we would call that a major shift in consciousness here.
And if we had a number of disruptions in our current economic system where we became more isolated and we became more confronted by our own survival, we would love each other or kill each other, but get over with it.
And right now, all that we do is just to, what's the worth of sitting around watching TV for the rest of our lives?
The things he's saying, the things that sort of provide an underscore to those things Gordon Michael Scallion is saying.
A different approach, but I'm sorry to say the same conclusion.
And in a way, though, I'll hold this for a second.
Now, I'm recalling a movie in, you remember that?
You remember that movie where the guy rode the atomic bomb down at the last moment, going, yahoo, with his hat?
You remember that?
How I learned to stop, let's see, how I stopped learned to love the bomb.
That's our Dorian right up there, right up there near the very peak of the volcano.
How about that, Dorian?
I mean, is there a little bit of that?
In other words, when it happens, there are people who said, if there's going to be a nuclear holocaust or war, why I'm going to run out and I'm going to just watch that sucker come down, open my arms, and say, baby, take me.
But we are in a very, very volatile environment relative to the ocean just leaping up and flapping us around.
Even in our own cells here, the islands fall apart catastrophically when they do give up.
And we have evidence of tidal waves that have washed up onto Molokai up to 1,200, 1,500 feet in elevation from catastrophic collapses of the big island in the last 100,000 years.
But as far as the idea of California falling into the water, I think you might consider that the water is going to come up a considerable amount as well as these changes relative to the geologic structure, the breaking off of.
But at the same time, we have this other phenomena that's occurring right now, and it is very, very dramatic, and that is that the ice shelves in the Antarctic are breaking off.
they're scared we're talking about Dorian, I want to tell you something.
A caller from Honolulu, anything else?
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I'd just like to ask him what he thinks if in the sense that the Earth has its own consciousness, what do you think that it's trying to tell us at this time?
Because, like you said, we're not here forever as a species.
I had an article, a rather extensive one, Associated Press article, in which they were quoting a couple of scientists who had the holy you-know-what scared out of them.
One of them exclaimed, my God, look at the crack.
And they were talking about this giant crack through.
And I have recently read scientific accounts of what, just without the mankind part of this, what we know about these cycles of the freezing and the releasing back into water, of water.
And it's now understood that when the water releases, let's say the Earth is warming.
We understand that generically we are warming a very small amount all the time.
And as that's happening, we are coming out of an ice age.
And there's something like 300 feet of ocean level fluctuation between ice age and thawing and ice age and thawing.
And we've only released about 100 feet of that 300 feet as we're coming out of the ice age that we're coming out of.
Thus, we are destined to have something like 200 feet of ocean rise without all these other discussions.
Not in your lifetime necessarily, but built in the plan.
But scientists now say when they look at what is the mechanism that releases that water, how fast does it happen, they're saying, wow, we see evidence of 100-foot, 200-foot changes in sea level in five years.
And when the scientists that have came out with their thought, their theories about the ozone depletion, what was 75 somewhere in that region, they said if our theories are correct, the very first real, tangible, absolute sign we will see is when the ice shelves in Antarctic start to break up.
What I know about it, or what I remember about it, it was that I think it was a Mexican was tilling his potato patch, and a crack appeared in the earth, and smoke began spewing out of it, and this became a volcano.
And later they wrote a song about it, Copa Caterpillar.
It's one of the things that Scallion apparently is watching, and as you know, Dorian, I think they've had some pretty big quakes down on the coast of Mexico.
Well, I think, yeah, in the sense that Dorian and Gordon and others believe that something uniformly has occurred in the shifting of the core and then with the shifting of the magma, uniformity in that sense, would you agree, Dorian?
Yeah, but I believe that the whole system's one system, so it acts in some sense, but I wouldn't go attributing our interpretation of the way it acts as necessarily the right thing.
So if it doesn't fit uniformly in our interpretation, that doesn't mean it's wrong.
And so if we tell everyone in Southern California every which way that we can that that place is a rock and roll geologic haven and then they say, my God, but they just turn around and go back to life, it's that to me is what I refer to as the insanity.
A guy who says, I live here and if it takes my home, if it takes my life, if it takes my invested energy, and I accept that dance, then let him do whatever he wants.
No, I honestly think, and I'll refer back to the experience that I went through with the destruction of the town of Kalapana.
There is a understood by people who deal at a very high level of human control of behavior.
You know, consider a civil defense administrator who has to cope with the infrastructure and all the police departments and arrange all that.
There is a set of steps to take that are dictated mostly by our court system more than anything else, by the lawyers.
And that perverts it.
I'm sorry to say, I would not hold the people who behave according to our social structure in that sense, in that capacity, as professionals, in a sense responsible.
All I can say is in preparation and talking to friends today before this, it was mentioned that there continues to be in that aftershock sequence from those earthquakes evidence that could be interpreted as magmatic movement as opposed to rigid rock moving.
And in other words, there's unusual seismicity associated with the aftershock sequence that is baffling to scientists.
And one of the theories that they're applying to study that is that it's actually magma moving, where there's no reason why there's no precedent showing magma in the area.
Well, you have to understand you live in the cascade range, that your network is in the cascade range, essentially, the lower part of it, but it's still the cascade range.
Then I'll tell you what, if you've got a fax machine, you can fax me a question for Dorian LaSalle while he's still there on the edge of the crater on the big island of Hawaii.
He is right there, and he has come to terms with it.
Doesn't mind being there.
So before you criticize him for talking about the insanity of other people living in areas that seem explosive, possibly explosive, with the coming Earth changes, understand that he has come to terms in sort of the way that the fellow rode the atomic bomb down and came to terms, that sort of thing.
What I have done is I began by volunteering for the U.S. Geological Survey and offering my time and worked two days a week for a number of years in their offices and in the field and gained a considerable education by endlessly bugging them.
Why?
And I would recommend anyone who wants to educate themselves to go volunteer for the active participation in what really happens.
Well, I might suggest that what you would want to do is contact my distributor for that book, which is Island Heritage in Hawaii, and they actually have a 1-800 number.
No, the point I'm trying to get to here is that you originally listened to my program, heard GMS, Gordon Michaels Gallion, heard what he said, allowed, no doubt, the scientists to hear it.
They said, ah, baloney.
Went away, came back about a week later, and said, basically, it's feasible.
If you get volcanism, run for your life, because what that area is, is a floodplain of basalt.
And if anyone's ever heard of a flood, a basalt flood, this is something that we know of happening in Iceland where we'll have like a 100-mile-long fissure that will just pump out massive amounts of magma.
And we actually have one of those environments in the United States, which is eastern Washington, actually.
I actually don't understand the backside of the Cascades and how that tapers off.
You'll note that I drew on those mountains and those mountain ranges a lot in my book on Fire on the Mountain.
I really make an analogy between the Hawaiian volcanism and the Cascade Range.
But it really is centered around the idea that you have a plate coming in from under the Pacific and going inland so far, but under the crust of the continent and then melting and then rising to the surface.
So the story sort of ends at the volcanoes and doesn't really go east.
But what is happening in the continent as a whole is that between the center of the continent and all the way through all of, you know, like from Utah and such, all those mountains coming into the valley.
If you looked at a large map of the country, you would see a whole bunch of strikes in the earth, a bunch of ridges and valleys that run north and south.
And that essentially is that entire stretch of real estate stretching and creating these ridges and valleys by ripping itself apart as it's migrating west.
Whereas the land back in the eastern part of the country is not migrating at the same rate.
So the earth is being ripped apart.
And in the further east in Yellowstone area, there's a hot spot, like Hawaii is over a hotspot.
There's a hotspot under Yellowstone.
So there's a force of magnetic intrusion there that's helped pushing in and helping, you know, it permeates through those breaks in the earth.
All right, I want to ask a question, and it is, if there would be a safe area to go to, assuming that somebody wanted to believe all this might occur and they wanted to go away and run away to a safe place, where would be a safe place?
Kilauea will erupt and will erupt in different forms.
And Mauna Loa, which is also adjacent to me, right out my window, which is the largest landform on our planet, will erupt and has erupted in recent past.
And the type of eruptions here are such that they're not like you blow the whole mountain up.
No, until the eruption completely stopped, they won't let anything happen there.
They won't let anyone go back and really work in it.
The Hawaiian people who understand this, the town was built on a lava flow that was 750 years old, but the Hawaiian people have lived here for 2,000 years there on that land.
And they understand the idea of moving aside and moving back.
They didn't have private land ownership.
It's only now with Private land ownership here that it creates havoc to the individual because the community doesn't just absorb you.
No, volcanoes are associated with some access through the crust of the earth for that hot material to vent.
So you have to have something that is conducive or not.
An area like the Himalayas would not be.
They're caused by the compression of the Asian continent, whereas as India, the subcontinent of India, rammed into the continent and pushed that rock together.
So you can imagine very dense material that's very thick as it's been compressed and piled up and compressed.
Whereas Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean where the crust is very thin under a big load of the ocean and stretched very thin.
So we have the ability for the magma to come out through the crust here.
It's got a path of least resistance part of the equation involved.
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Give me an overview of your perception of the occult.
We know that so much of real important information has been hidden purposely because the people in power always consider that kind of knowledge on a need-to-know basis.
And you don't need to know.
All you need to do is do what you've always done.
Just watch the ball games and be entertained and watch television.
You don't need to do any thinking and start questioning the powers that be.
First of all, one big thing a lot of people, I mean, when you stop and think of the changes that you guys are talking about, and I really believe that it's going to happen, it's one thing for it to happen over the course of a year.
It's quite another thing for a lot of people get terrified at the aspect of it happening all in one day, especially people who live on the New Madrid fault.
If some information came to you and you said, this is good part of it, and you wanted to say that's bad part of it, would you really be able to hang your hat on your belief in the good part of it?
I mean, if it's like, take everything Gordon is saying.
When I first heard him, I thought Dorian was a kind of a spiritual kind of, I've learned to love the bomb kind of guy who realized he'd be the first to go.
But as I listen more to Dorian, I've come to realize that he actually thinks he's in a safe place, a quarter mile from Kilauea's crater.
That's where he is, quarter mile from Kilauea's crater on the big island of Hawaii.
So, um, so I don't know that he's what I first thought he was.
I think actually he thinks he's in a safe place.
Maybe he is.
What do I know?
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I believe we've been visiting.
I believe there are extraterrestrials in this universe.
I believe in Bigfoot.
I believe in out-of-body experiences.
I believe in ghosts.
I believe in a lot of this.
But I also don't believe the frauds and the hooksters.
And I guess my pledge is that I'm not going to stop trying to get to the truth.
Even though we may have some fun along the line, I'm going to distinguish the difference between fun and serious.
Now we take you back to the night of November 6th, 1995, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
The End So did you hear me rapping on you there, Dorian?
Now, in other words, to me, at first, you sounded really like the kind of guy who is at peace with himself and his volcano and lives there and expects to be at the center of the first catastrophic moment in earth change lingo.
But then as time went on, I realized you're really saying, uh-uh, this is one of the safer places to be.
So that accounts for your light-hearted attitude.
Now, here is a question for you.
What's happening in the Seattle Northwest area, Mount Rainier, Mount St. Helens, and the rest?
Where are we on the activity list, and where are we in relationship to the breakoff point of the continent?
I imagine that all sorts of people would consider all sorts of things.
A lot of people take it personally, so they get themselves personally involved.
But realistically, this is probably one of the most monitored volcanoes in the world.
And there are potential for very, very, very large changes.
And a lot of the places on this volcano that those changes are expected to occur have large amounts of community type developments, as well as we have a geothermal development that was put into right down the middle of our most active rift zone on the island.
And the activity currently is maybe 10 miles away, but uprift.
And the long-term historic record says that the vents migrate over time downrift.
And I mean, these people, the government still has allowed us to become dependent upon electricity that's generated from that environment.
And, you know, what is it, 40 to 1 or something where we're talking about it's below water level and above.
And all I could come up with was these numbers that these people are talking about have to equate to that above sea level issue.
But I still haven't thought it out entirely.
There is, if for those who at the same time want to conjure this up and think about it and justify it with scientific data, I really suggest going on the net because there's an awful lot of stuff out there about that that is just people's published material, et cetera, rather than my off-the-wall thoughts.
But for those who want to follow this and maybe find another puzzle to what they've been exposed to through Gordon, I would suggest that there's a man named Hank Wesselman who wrote a book called Spirit Walker that just segues into it incredibly.
And it's about experiences 5,000 years hence from now.
And it is incredibly tied to the Hawaiian people in an odd sense.
But what this man, by being able to go forward in time and have an experience through another person alive 5,000 years ago, came back with just segues perfectly into all of this.
40% of our oxygen or something comes from coral reefs.
Coral reefs are some of the most sensitive biological environments.
It's ridiculous.
They're dependent on the ocean level being at a level.
They are dependent upon all sorts of things that are disruptive.
I mean, I just got, I get articles.
People cut out newspaper articles.
I got an article about how we are taking cyanide and using it in Indonesia and then they're about there.
They're fishing for fish with it by spraying it on the coral reef and then harvesting the stung fish and selling them For eating in China and killing reefs by the day.
I got a little different read on the way you laugh about your situation.
I think that you've got yourself spiritually together, and it doesn't matter what happens, you're confident that you're going to be all right.
You bet.
Okay, 10-4.
The guy that called about the ice and the displacement in the ocean, he sounds like a limb ball listener to me because I've heard Rush give this analogy before.
When you make a drink and your ice cubes are in it and they melt, you leave it alone and they melt, it doesn't overflow, does it?
Well, he's wrong.
Sometimes it does overflow if you've got it up close enough and then you leave it fresh.
The Earth takes the water and holds it in ice for periods and releases it.
And the result is the water level goes up and down.
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Zorian, the question I really wanted to ask you was, do you believe that there's a faction within the USGS that believes that more ought to be done to warn the public about the coming Earth changes?
I think what you have is a whole bunch of facets of something, and each facet in itself is very sincere, but its focus is pointed very, very, very specific and very minute and brings back a whole lot of information.
And it's not their business, and they don't make it their business, to correlate that information and draw big pictures from it.
Their motivation has not been in the long term, these earth sciences that we're talking about, this discipline, they weren't formed, I don't believe, for that.
They were formed to map the mineralogy, the resources of our country to define what we can do and can't do, where the oil is specifically, where the gold is.
These are things that our government was participating in and subsidized.
And since we've had such things as Mount St. Helens, I mean, we have a thing called CVO, or Cascade Volcano Observatory, that came into existence.
Money was released by our government to fund such a thing because Mount St. Helens blew up.
That isn't a long-term overview of how to run a government.
That's a reactionary thing, but it got them into the groove of running observatories.
Hawaiian Volcano Observatory is unique in that it was started privately in 1912.
It was started with private donated funds, and it was taken over in the 40s by the USGS.
But the whole real calling of studying volcanoes is an individual one, and you would look at the people who do it as individuals who found a way to get subsidized for the rest of their life to do something they want to do, and they're paying the piper.
Well, I've got some predictions that is going on around here, but also a question for Dorian.
All right.
Some people are seeing some changes in visions, like saying that here in December possibly a 5.2 earthquake in Los Angeles Range, and also that followed by that within about three months, a 9-plus in the southern Idaho area, which will dam off the rivers and flood the Salt Lake Valley area.
Now, is this possible?
Plus, I've also started seeing heated areas that are natural hot springs.
I told you that it is understood that there is an increase in volcanism underneath Yellowstone.
So, I mean, what I basically have been trying to say is look at all these pieces as symptoms of one thing, as something.
So, if you're reporting the same type of behavior somewhere in between point A and point B that are both behaving the same, just consider that, you know, somehow it fits in there.
I've sent you some USGS reports recently, and I made a little prediction recently.
I don't know if you got it on the facts, but I predicted a new fault that would occur east of San Andreas from the Salton Sea up to Barstow.
And we just said, yeah, I'm looking.
And this was before I heard you.
That's why it's amazing.
I've been getting these printouts from off the internet showing just a series of low-level quakes in that area, just a literal line.
And because of the deformation there by San Bernardino, I'm expecting a huge one.
In fact, my little prediction is that somewhere within the 50-mile radius of San Bernardino next few months, there's going to be at least an eight-point quake.
You know, Stan Deo again in Australia, and there is a link from my webpage to his webpage now, by the way, maps satellite photographs of areas of the Earth that are hot.
And he says that a lot of areas on the Earth right now show tremendous amounts of heat.
And that will correlate with what you're saying about magma movement.
Well, they also attribute El Nino as a phenomena that's generated by the volcanism underneath the ocean offshore of South America in the Easter Island area.
There's a volcanic range that Easter Island is the only island above sea level as a part of it.
But it's very, very active volcanically right now.
Yeah, all I would say I was trying to do by sitting here talking on the phone with all of you is just to help people understand what is happening.
It's not a matter of our significance in it.
It's just a matter, and we all have to iron that out ourselves.
It really is a matter of the fact that the earth is an alive thing, and we are living in concert with it, you know.
And we can all reconcile whether or not we're participating in its undoing or not, but the fact is it is an alive thing, and to build a house somewhere building it on an alive thing.
Where everyone lives, whether the time scale of its movement or the catastrophicness of any given part of its movement is a variable, but the earth is alive.
Gordon Michael Scallion, upon the occasion of his last interview, at the end of the interview, like we're at right now, said, follow your gut, follow your instincts.