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Oct. 30, 1995 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Ghost to Ghost 1995

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	Call Art Bell toll free west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
	1-800-618-8255. East of the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033.
	1-800-825-5033. This is the CBC Radio Network.
	Welcome to Ghost to Ghost AM.
	Thought I'd add a little spirit to the night.
	Good to be with you, everybody.
	I'm Art Dell, and we'll be here all night long.
	Nothing but ghost stories.
	The ground rules are simple.
	You tell the story, we'll listen.
	But it's gotta be a real one.
	Heaven knows.
	Is it heaven?
	There are plenty of them out there.
	And, uh, going back now to a caller, my first caller, I might add, on WJR in Detroit.
	And, uh, I just, uh, you know, you said, uh, your radio station, sir, covers 38 states.
	I just got a fax from somebody.
	Said WJR 760 from Detroit is coming in here, uh, gangbusters, and he sends the fax from Birmingham, Alabama.
	Alabama.
	His name's Ron.
	So there you are, all the way down in Alabama.
	You can get in Detroit, Alabama.
	Listen, Detroit, as we all know, is the center of some pretty strange activity upon Halloween.
	Yeah.
	And I know there's a lot of volunteers out in your streets tonight trying to keep things quiet.
	I assume, so far, they are quiet.
	Well, they haven't been too bad.
	I just had to go outside.
	My wife said she heard somebody parking out front.
	Great.
	It's like we had a car stolen out front two days ago.
	It's not the best neighborhood, but then again, it's not the worst.
	Well, I've got a way to keep people inside.
	Did you hear last hour the Bigfoot sound I played?
	Oh, yeah.
	You did, huh?
	I played with my dog.
	Well, I've got something else I want.
	If there's anything that will keep the people in Detroit inside, try and imagine this outside.
	listen carefully how'd you like to meet someone like that out in the middle
	of the street in the middle Well, you know, I think I just heard that a few minutes ago.
	My wife's eight and three-quarter months pregnant.
	Oh, gee!
	Well, I hope she stays that way.
	Yeah.
	Matter of fact, we were almost going to have the baby today, being Halloween, but we're going to have it tomorrow.
	Well, I hope I didn't bring anything premature.
	Oh, no.
	Anyway, have you ever seen anything you could not explain?
	Well, yeah.
	About 20 years ago, me and my brother and sister got together and we decided we were going to get out the old Ouija board and have a seance.
	Yes.
	Of course, the first person you call up from the dead is George Washington and nothing seemed to happen.
	All the lights were out in the house.
	Then my brother decided that he was going to call Satan.
	A really poor idea.
	Next thing you know, we heard a gust of wind and the front door, we had a vestibule at the front of the house.
	I don't know.
	a flimsy door and that swung shut.
	So it would have taken an action of somebody pulling it or suction, a really strong breeze
	or something to shut the door.
	We got startled and we ran over there and didn't see anything.
	We flicked on the light and the light didn't work.
	Oh, we went to get a light bulb.
	We put it in and we had like a 2x4 carpet in the vestibule and the impression left on the carpet was the trident, the devil's spear.
	You know, the pitchfork?
	Yes, oh yes, I know.
	And nobody would have had the opportunity to do it and they would have had to do it in the dark.
	I'll tell you something, and I'll tell everybody else a brief story, which I sort of said I was never going to tell again, but that's a good one, sir.
	Thank you, and thank you, and we shall always remember you, by the way, as caller number one from Detroit.
	What is your first name again?
	My name is Casey.
	Casey.
	Casey from Detroit.
	Brother, thank you.
	Well, it's good listening to you, Art, and I'm sure you're going to get a lot more listeners from Detroit.
	All right, thank you.
	Good to be on the air there.
	When I worked in Las Vegas, and for a number of years I did the program in Las Vegas, from the Union Plaza Hotel it was called at that time, and one night when I was doing a show, this very night as a matter of fact, a lady called up and claimed to be a witch.
	She gave me some very, very disconcerting information, personal knowledge, Which I actually bleeped off the air.
	It was so personal, I couldn't believe that she could possibly, possibly know these things about me.
	And, um, toward the end of the call, she said she was going to come and leave something for me.
	Well, she left me a Ouija board.
	An ancient, ancient, ancient Ouija board.
	I have never, nor will I to this day, tell you what has happened to that Ouija board.
	But when you call upon spirits, when you call upon the dark side, and you do it with something, an instrument, it does not matter, you'd better be damn careful what you're doing.
	Ouija boards are an opening.
	They're an opening into a world where there are things that you may not really wish to meet.
	So my advice to you, without telling you the detailed story of this board which is frightening, my advice to you is do not play with Ouija boards.
	It's like opening a door and you just don't know what's going to walk through.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	All right.
	Yes.
	Hello.
	How are you doing?
	Okay.
	You're going to have to get into that phone and yell at us.
	All right.
	How's this?
	Much better.
	All right.
	Thanks.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Spokane.
	Spokane, Washington.
	KPA.
	Mighty KPA.
	You bet.
	I have a story for you.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	It's a doozy.
	About a year ago, I was staying at a friend's house up in Newport, and we were Sitting down in the basement, right?
	Yes.
	And we were sitting there smoking cigarettes and talking back and forth.
	Doing guy stuff.
	Yeah.
	And I was sitting there and I was watching my smoke from my cigarette go up and all of a sudden I seen a face kind of appear into it, you know, the smoke going up into the air.
	And I asked my friend, you know, do you see it?
	And he's like, yeah.
	And it smiled, kind of.
	It smiled?
	Yeah, it just smiled.
	Now I can understand people blow smoke rings.
	I can even understand blowing a face.
	But I can't understand it smiling.
	Yeah, it just kind of formed into a face.
	The strangest thing I've ever... I still get shivers now.
	And it smiled at you?
	Yes.
	Well, it's better than a frown.
	Yeah.
	And what happened to it then?
	It just kind of dissipated really slowly.
	That's weird.
	He's told me about stories about seeing things in his house before too.
	Well, I'll tell you then a little story.
	I have a photograph.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	I have a photograph of a ghost.
	A real ghost.
	It might be a wonderful night for some of you to get this photograph.
	If you have a computer and a modem, we've got a bulletin board service.
	And you can go in and get a photograph of this ghost.
	Actually, there are several ghost photographs.
	Oh, by the way, my guest this last Sunday on Dreamland sent me a photograph of a tornadic ghost.
	I don't know if that's a word.
	But it is obviously some sort of plasma material at the top of a staircase in the shape of a tornado.
	Now, down toward the bottom of the tornado, it's translucent.
	In other words, you can begin to look through it and see the stairs.
	It's the damnedest thing you've ever seen.
	I'm going to get that one up on the bulletin board for you as soon as they send it to me to scan.
	I've got a scan of it right now, but I want to be able to scan it myself at a higher resolution rate.
	If you want to see a ghost, there is a man in Arizona who was a stone mason he built stone you know he did basements and he did a wine cellar for a fellow in about a hundred year old house he was very proud of the work that he did and when he was done he took a photograph of his stone masonry work was beautiful only thing is when the picture came out
	Quite clearly, a translucent being appeared in the photograph, and it was captured very, very well on film.
	And we have published this photograph in our newsletter.
	and i might add i've got it on our bulletin board so if you want to
	download the picture of the ghost you can call area code seven oh two
	seven two seven one seven zero nine
	twenty four hours a day we give that number to you again
	702-727-1709.
	And if you're able to download with Zmodem protocol, you can download a photograph of this ghost.
	You take a look.
	There's a face.
	There's a body.
	There's arms.
	There's legs.
	It's a ghost.
	It's clear.
	It's in color.
	There's no mistake about it.
	There's some sort of spirit, some sort of entity in that photograph, and you're welcome to download it and take a look for yourself.
	We do a lot of that.
	We try to make some of this material available to you.
	So, it does not all have to be the theater of the mind.
	That's what radio is.
	I want you to be able to see what I see, so that you can see that I'm not totally crazy.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi Art.
	This is Aaron calling from Los Banos, California.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	I have a really good ghost story I wanted to tell you.
	Let her go.
	Okay.
	This story happened in 1951.
	It was given to me by my father.
	And it happened to his cousin named Norbert.
	And he was at a movie theater in Morgan Hill, California.
	And he was leaving, going towards San Jose.
	There is a stretch of road they call Monterey Highway that they call the blood alley.
	One night after the movie was done he was heading home to San Jose heading north.
	He was going about 45 miles an hour in his old car.
	I know the road by the way.
	There is a little highway.
	While he was going up there he saw this beautiful young looking lady on the side of the road
	and walking really slowly.
	He kind of slowed down and he was looking over at her.
	She had a beautiful white dress on and she was looking down and he slowly passed her.
	He looked in his rear view mirror and he saw her.
	He slowed down a little bit more and was going 15, 10 miles an hour.
	For some reason he got a really nervous feeling inside and he slowly sped up because he was scared.
	He didn't know exactly what it was.
	If it was something different, he got a different feeling inside.
	He sped up a little bit.
	He was going about 35 or 40 miles an hour.
	He happened to look back again and it didn't go any further away.
	It wasn't leaving.
	You mean the lady in the white dress was as close to him?
	Yes.
	As it was the first time he saw her.
	He really started getting nervous.
	He put his foot on the pedal and got up to about 50 or 55 miles an hour.
	Sure.
	And he looked in the mirror and it wasn't any, as a matter of fact, it was getting closer to him.
	It was getting closer to his car.
	Really?
	On the passenger side.
	There are many, sir, that have died on that road.
	Yes, very.
	It was a lot of fatal accidents back in the 50s and earlier on and later on also.
	And as he got up to speed, he started really stepping on it.
	He was frightened now.
	By this time, he was really frightened.
	He was going, you know, tipping the car out to, I guess, 70, 75 miles an hour is what he said.
	That would be my reaction.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He was really moving now.
	I'm the, let's get out of here kind of person.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And he looked in the mirror this time.
	And he looked in, as a matter of fact, he didn't look in the mirror.
	He looked over to his right side where his little side mirror was, you know, to get a better picture.
	And you know, the worst thing possibly happened that he thought happened.
	And there was a white dress floating next to the car.
	And when he looked at the window, he said he saw a face of a skeleton with white straw hair looking at him with its mouth opened.
	And he was so frightened that he could not believe he slammed his brakes on in the middle of the road.
	It was late at night in the middle of the road, slammed his brakes on.
	He closed his eyes as tight as he could and said a prayer.
	When he looked back, it was gone.
	He turned around and went back to his mother's house, which was about 20 miles the other
	way and didn't go look back at all.
	He went home and he told the story and told it to the whole family.
	As far as I know, he never went down that road again, if he could.
	These things change your life forever.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	It's one thing to tell them.
	It's another to really experience them.
	When you do, it changes your life forever and ever.
	It does not matter what anybody else believes or chuckles about or laughs about.
	If you experience something like that, you're never, ever going to be the same.
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	They eliminate the poison.
	Now, if this bacteria should die, that's bad, then the opposite occurs, and your body gets poisons, and you get rashes, and you get sick, and it's not good.
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	Now what kills that bacteria?
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	You know who takes it?
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	relax, put on some music, and just let it all go.
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	All right, my recommendation is turn down the lights, if you have the guts to do it, and listen carefully.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	This is Dennis from Vancouver.
	Washington?
	Yes.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	I've got a ghost story.
	Well, sort of a ghost story.
	Sort of?
	Almost a ghost story.
	Look, that's like being almost pregnant.
	Either you're a spirit or you're a physical entity.
	It's one or the other.
	Well, let me... I'll explain it and go from there.
	All right.
	Then maybe I can tell you.
	I was up in Yosemite.
	Yes.
	And doing a Ouija board.
	Oh, here we go.
	Yeah.
	There were, I guess, about 10 or 12 people in the room.
	There were only two of us on the board.
	The other people were standing around watching, contributing their energy.
	We got something that came across as being negative.
	I don't necessarily want to say evil, but definitely negative oriented.
	Do you want to tell us what it was?
	Well, it wouldn't give us a name, but the impression that I have is that it was something higher up than just an ordinary demon.
	It was very strong, very intelligent.
	Now, was this manifesting itself simply through moving on the Ouija board and spelling things out?
	That's the way it started.
	We were asking questions of it.
	At first we didn't know that it was evil, but having done the Ouija board for several years prior to that, we've learned to ask appropriate questions to determine whether it's a positive
	or a negative entity.
	And after having determined that it was a negative entity, we were going to stop,
	but the rest of the people in the room wanted to continue because they were fascinated.
	So we went ahead and continued with it, which of course was our mistake.
	After a while, it told us to turn the lights off.
	Oh, and you listened, right?
	Yeah, we turned the lights off, we turned the candle on, or lit a candle.
	Alright, I'll tell you what.
	I'm coming up on a break.
	I want you to hold this story for the break, alright?
	Okay.
	Alright, stay right where you are.
	We will shortly be back.
	You're listening to an annual event called Ghost to Ghost AM.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Put your seatbelts on everybody.
	it's going to be a rough ride.
	I like to do it dreamin' Yeah, just right between the sound machine
	On a cloud of sun I'm drifting tonight Any place that you go, I'm there
	I like to do it dreamin' Yeah, just right between the sound machine
	On a cloud of sun I'm drifting tonight Any place that you go, I'm there
	🎵Music🎵 That's 702-727-1295.
	Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
	That's 702-727-1295.
	First time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
	Now, here again, Art Bell.
	Top o' the morning, everybody.
	Good to be here.
	It's Ghost Stories, and Ghost to Ghost, all night long.
	Tell you what, let me take care of business here at the beginning, then we'll jump back into it.
	How's that?
	Clear sailing, right on up, or would that be broom riding, to the top of the hour.
	For the past several months, North American trading, months, almost a year, they've been telling you about the new currency.
	Well, let's hear it.
	$100 are going to change, $100 bills first, then the other denominations will quickly follow.
	And currency is changing.
	That's all there is to it.
	Now, there are at least three or four ways this new currency will affect your savings, your investments, just about all the holdings that you've got.
	They've got a wonderful offer for you.
	All you need to do is call them.
	It is a free call, and they will send you free information.
	Now, I'm telling you this, they sell gold.
	It's really very tricky, Ed, because when you read about what's going on in the economy, buying gold is going to seem au naturel to you, so you don't really, you know, they don't have to sell gold.
	It sells itself after you read this information, but the info is free, so call them.
	1-800-877-9799 is the number.
	1-800-877-9799.
	The name of the company, once again, is North American Trading, and they're more than happy to do business with you.
	But right now, all they want to do is send you free information.
	The name of the company, once again, is North American Trading, and they're more than happy
	to do business with you, but right now, all they want to do is send you free information.
	In a moment, there'll be more.
	Folks, I've got on the line with me Dr. Greg Sinamone, who helped to originate the amazing
	18-hour phonics game.
	I've been telling you about this.
	It helps children.
	It helps teenagers as well as adults learn to read, understand, and comprehend better.
	Greg, what got you started in this endeavor?
	Well, I'll tell you, I'm like a lot of people, I think, aren't we?
	I tried another phonics method with my own kids.
	I have two school-age kids.
	I'm also a school therapist and did a lot of testing on kids as they're preparing to enter education.
	Our kids read horribly in our society today.
	In fact, here in California alone, we placed dead last in the nation tied with Louisiana in reading and spelling and grammar.
	In fact, last year alone, 20% of all high school graduates could not even read their high school diplomas.
	So what got me interested in the phonics game?
	Is that we're in a mess here and if we don't turn this around and figure out how to get back to basics, which is teaching the 44 sounds of the English language to our children and our teenagers, then I don't know where it's going to stop and where our kids are going to have to end up.
	Before we get back to the basics of education.
	Well, of course, whenever America is compared to any other industrialized country, we always square at the bottom of the heap.
	Why are kids and adults having problems reading and spelling?
	Well, it goes back to what they call whole word reading.
	And we thought we knew what we were doing when we switched over about 40 years ago to the spellers.
	See?
	Jane runs.
	See?
	Spot jumps.
	And what we didn't realize at that time, and we're just now starting to get it, was that was the wrong way to teach kids and teenagers to read.
	And we're getting back to phonics now.
	Tests are proving this out.
	The phonics game is the answer.
	Greg, I've seen it.
	I've seen the phonics game and I've talked to people who absolutely are in love with it.
	Tell everybody how they can get it.
	It's a fun solution to a tough problem and the way to get it is 1-800-211-READ.
	It is 1-800-211-READ.
	1-800-211-READ.
	And the first 25 callers are going to get a free comprehension game and a free syllable
	game with their order.
	All right.
	Listen, everybody.
	I'd suggest that what Greg has laid out before you right now is an opportunity to teach young people and adults how to read, spell, and comprehend better.
	That number again, Greg?
	1-800-211-READ.
	You can't go wrong.
	Thanks, Greg.
	You're welcome, Martin.
	Okay.
	Please allow me to introduce myself.
	I'm a man of wealth and tale.
	I've been around for long, long years.
	Stolen many a man's soul and fame.
	From the moment that I heard this, I realized it had to go on tonight.
	Good morning.
	From the moment that I heard this I realized it had to go on tonight.
	Good morning.
	This is Ghost to Ghost AM.
	Back now to our story, and I'm sorry we interrupted you, sir.
	You're back on the air again.
	Oh, no problem.
	Let's see, where was I?
	It asked us to turn the lights off, so we lit a candle and we did turn the lights off.
	Bad move.
	Yeah, well, we found that out the hard way.
	We continued You know, speaking with it for about a minute or so.
	It?
	Yeah, it.
	Unbeknownst to us, back behind the group, towards the corner of a room, a light started to form, just in the middle of the air.
	It started off real small, but it was real bright.
	It was actually lighting up the room.
	Right.
	The room got real cold, real fast.
	There was no bad smell or anything, but it was quite cold all of a sudden.
	That would be enough for me.
	Now, what I want to know, first of all, before you continue is, I'd be out of there.
	I mean, in a flash.
	I'd be out of there.
	Light begins to form where there ought not to be light.
	The room gets cold.
	That would be all I'd need.
	Well, since my friend and I had been doing it on a semi-regular basis for a couple years, Fairly fluent, at least up to that point.
	We hadn't gotten anything that strong before, but we pretty much knew how to deal with it once it got to that point.
	My friend started getting sick to his stomach.
	I started getting a little bit of a headache, so we stopped with the board itself and basically Move back away, relax ourselves, started saying some prayers, at least I started imagining a golden light around myself, which is what I consider a protective light.
	You know, went from there, and we just left the board alone, and the light did fade.
	We turned on the room lights itself, and, you know, the light just, you know, faded out.
	Well, that's good.
	There are a lot of people who would say to you, you should have been praying in the first place, not messing around with the Ouija board.
	Well, um... Because you know what can happen, sir?
	Oh, yeah.
	You can bring something like that into this world, or across from wherever it comes from, And you can put your Ouija board away and it won't matter because it's in.
	Right.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Once it's done its full transformation crossover.
	Yeah.
	But we managed to stop it in time.
	So what would you advise people out there about Ouija boards?
	Well, first of all, there are several good books out there.
	If you're really determined to use one, read the books on it first.
	The best thing to do is to, you know, one of the most common questions, if you get a negative oriented spirit, one of the most common questions that it will ask is, can I come in?
	And never think that it's referring to coming into the room or into your home or whatever.
	When it's asking that question, it's wanting to come into you.
	And you always say no.
	And if you get a question like that, I would suggest that you stop.
	And don't mess with it anymore.
	Okie dokie.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	There are many out there who probably ought not mess around with this kind of thing at all.
	It's very serious.
	It's not a joke.
	A Ouija board is simply an instrument, in my opinion.
	Now, it may be a particularly powerful instrument, but you can invite these sorts of forces in with or without a Ouija board.
	And my advice to you is, don't do it.
	Like an unwelcome in-law coming to visit, it might not leave.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air, top o' the morning to you.
	Hello Art, this is Jeff, I'm calling from Denver.
	Denver, yes sir, Cahow I imagine?
	Yes, and I have a true fact I was living in an apartment complex and a guy came over to me.
	I met him just inadvertently.
	I was working in the legal field and he asked me to check out whether or not his wife had been married before.
	I did that.
	And I gave him information and he came over to my apartment.
	Had she been?
	I just want to know.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It was big me.
	Oh my.
	He was married to her for 10 years and she never got a divorce.
	So he came over to my house.
	He was crying.
	Sure.
	I took him over to his apartment and tried to calm him down and he went into a rage.
	He started Tearing telephones out of the wall, breaking lamps, tables, etc.
	And then he came at me like he was going to attack me.
	He got right up close to me and he fell down and he started to convulse.
	And I thought, well this guy has epilepsy or something.
	Sure.
	And then he jumped up again and did the same thing again and went down like someone hit him in the head with a ball bat.
	It was frightening.
	The hair on my head went up.
	His eyes were rolling back.
	He was foaming at the mouth.
	You're saying it was like he was in combat with some horse?
	I don't know what was going on, but what I can say that really frightened me was he was speaking out of his own mouth and cursing me and doing all this, but there were multiple voices coming out.
	Sometimes there were one, sometimes it sounded like two or three or five or six.
	Then he stopped breathing and the guy was foaming at the mouth.
	I went down, I checked his pulse and all that.
	I had to give him CPR, get him breathing again.
	I had to run over.
	He pulled the phone out of the wall.
	I had to run over to the neighbors and ask them to call the cops.
	Then the cops, the fire department, the EMTs, all of them came over.
	They took him off to ER.
	And I thought, well, you know, when he was talking to me, it just, it was horrible.
	That's something I can't even explain.
	What would you say?
	Would you think he was possessed or was he being beaten by some outside force?
	Well, all I can say is there were voices coming out of his body when his eyes were rolled back and he was foaming at the mouth.
	He was writhing on the floor and sometimes it sounded like one person talking.
	Sometimes it sounded like five, four, you know, whatever.
	So I gave him the CPR, they took him off and then that was about 11 o'clock at night.
	And then about 4 in the morning they let him out of the ER and he came back to my apartment.
	I said, get out of here, I don't want to talk to you.
	I'm sure.
	Get, leave, go, now.
	And then about five months after that I met him in a parking lot of a shopping center
	and I said, you know, do you realize what's going on?
	Do you understand?
	He said, yeah.
	Can you imagine what those cops did to my apartment?
	I said, the cops didn't do anything.
	You did that.
	I talked with him for a while and then he told me that he was an immigrant from France.
	He was in an orphanage in France.
	As far as these convulsions and stuff, I asked him if he was epileptic or all that, and he said no.
	I was talking with him, and then he said, you know, I was in an orphanage in France, and two priests told me I was possessed.
	I said, gee whiz, and that was the end of it.
	I didn't talk to him after that.
	That's enough.
	All right, my friend.
	Thank you.
	That's quite enough.
	What to say about that?
	We were talking about inviting entities in a few moments ago.
	Maybe on occasion, they invite themselves in.
	Maybe on occasion, they take the minds of those who can be taken.
	Have you thought of that?
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, WBC, Delaware Superior.
	In Wisconsin.
	Actually, I'm in Duluth.
	Duluth, Minnesota.
	I'm sorry.
	Alright.
	Yeah, your Detroit station is coming through pretty good, too.
	Alright.
	So, are you going to tell us what happened to your Ouija board?
	Absolutely not.
	Can't talk you into it, huh?
	No, that's one story I really won't tell.
	It scares me.
	And I don't like telling it.
	Not even on this day.
	It scares the hell out of me.
	That's one thing that really did scare me.
	So, I warn people about Ouija boards.
	How about you?
	Do you have a story?
	Yeah, I got a quick one for you.
	All right.
	Back in the 50s, my mom was seeing a gentleman in her school.
	She was a junior in high school.
	They were, I guess they were really in love with each other, this that and the other thing.
	And one night she was sleeping and she just kind of stared in bed and she woke up and saw him standing in the room, her bedroom.
	What are you doing here?
	And he just kind of faded away.
	Oh.
	And the next day she found out he was killed in a car accident.
	Oh, there's a lot of stories like that.
	There's a lot of stories.
	Thank you very much.
	Now, you see, I believe we had Brad Steiger on a couple of weeks ago, and actually we've been kind of doing the warm-up to Halloween for some time now.
	But there are many, many stories like that.
	It seems when many die, the energy That is us, the energy that may be our soul, our essence, whatever it is you want to call it, you give your own name to it, has something that it must say to somebody that it is left behind.
	It must say it and somehow that energy, either still here on earth or from elsewhere, finds its way back long enough to assure the person that it loves Or to pass a message that must be passed, information that a loved one must have, and somehow the energy makes it back.
	Don't ask me.
	I just do talk shows.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Thank you.
	Where are you?
	Pardon?
	Where are you?
	At Corpus Christi, Texas.
	Alright, welcome.
	Welcome.
	Yes, I have a Several ghost stories, but I know I don't have that much time.
	No, give us your best.
	Oh, the best.
	Okay.
	One time my husband and I had a disagreement, and he had been, you know, just frolicking and carrying on, and I'd about had it.
	And I was very upset, and my mom told me, well, you need to cool down.
	And so she said, let's go to this thrift store that happened to be in a hospital.
	And, uh, we were walking down the corridor.
	Why is it that when women get upset, they go shopping?
	It's true, isn't it?
	Yeah, well, yeah, it is.
	But anyway, my mom and I were walking down the corridor, and, uh, in the hospital you hear the, the, uh, there's, like, speakers, and there's, like, uh, you know, Dr. Dr. Jones on the floor.
	Dr. Jones wanted an ER, and you really don't pay attention to these things.
	That's right.
	And anyway, I was upset and she says, calm down.
	I said, no, this is it.
	I am upset and nothing you can say mother is going to change my mind.
	She says, well, I really think you need to cool down.
	I said, well, nope, that's it.
	At that point, um, we heard a voice walk by and it asked, it just asked in a real deep voice, uh, where is, where, where did you leave Ben?
	And I didn't, we didn't pay any attention to it until we walked about two feet and then my mom and I looked at each other and we turned around together and we saw a tall, almost Frankenstein stature man and a short man and they both had on those white gowns and their skin was gray tone and we both looked at each other and then I kept looking at it and then the tall guy He turns around in like a Frankenstein stance and looks directly into my eyes.
	And he lifts his head up just a bit like telling me, you know, I'm going to get you because you're vulnerable because you can be mine.
	And then he just turns around and he walks off with the other short guy.
	And we both looked at them and their skin tone was like It was gray as if they had been dead for years.
	And then I looked at my mom, and she looks at me, and she says, make the sign of the cross.
	You know, we both made the sign of the cross.
	And she says, look, when you're this upset with somebody, the evil spirits know that you're vulnerable.
	And at this point, she says, you need to cool down, because This is how bad things happen.
	Well, I'll bet you if her first speech didn't work, this one did.
	Yeah, it... Well, I still haven't forgiven him, but... You did calm down.
	Oh, yeah, I did calm down.
	And there are... I just want to tell everybody that there are bad spirits out there.
	Yes.
	And when you're being negative, and you're vulnerable, and you don't have the fear of Christ or something, It's a matter of weakness.
	It's such a good point.
	Thank you.
	get you. But if you have, if you can say a prayer right now and then...
	It's a matter of weakness.
	It's a matter of weakness, like you were saying. It's a matter of weakness and they'll come
	right on in and this is how bad things happen.
	It's such a good point, thank you. Even if I were to relate it to what I do and on this
	program, we talk about a million things. This is like any other, not like any other program
	you've ever heard.
	We delve into areas that are... There really is no explanation for it.
	I can't put it into words.
	You're just going to have to listen to the program, not just this one, but the one we do on a regular basis, and you'll begin to get the idea.
	We don't bore in.
	We're not like other talk shows.
	We don't bore in only on politics or anything else.
	We do whatever comes up on any given night.
	And occasionally we'll be in the political arena or we'll be talking about something very terrestrial and somebody will push my button.
	Now in latter years I've tried to let it happen less and less but my button can be pushed And there have been, over the years, a few times, mind you, a few times, when I have virtually lost it.
	I mean, I have become red-faced, heart-pounding, totally out of it, angry, and just totally blew up on the air.
	It does not happen very frequently, but it has occurred.
	Let me tell you, when that does occur, folks, as this lady just said, In my opinion, these are very, very vulnerable moments.
	And it's possible that if there is something close, something waiting for you, you are vulnerable.
	And it could take you in an instant.
	You don't believe it?
	That's fine.
	Just heed my warning.
	You're listening to Ghost to Ghost AM.
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	But if there is, this is not it.
	We're telling ghost stories.
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	I don't know.
	We'll see how it goes.
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	This is from a retired Navy fellow.
	Art, you had a show about airplane ghosts.
	Well, here's one about ship ghosts.
	I am retired.
	U.S.
	Coast Guard.
	I served on the icebreaker Glacier with a ghost.
	I saw him only one time.
	I was asleep in my state room when I heard a knock at the door.
	The door opened and a sailor, that's in quotes, leaned in and said, Mr. Blank, You're needed in B1 Engineering Room.
	One of the mains is making bad noises and the watch needs you.
	Got to the engine room fast as I could.
	The door opened as I got there and one of the sailors said, I was just coming to get you.
	I told him I came as soon as I was called.
	His reply was, huh?
	This just happened and I was just coming to get you.
	Another time I saw the hatch to the emergency diesel generator room close and the lock wheel spin and lock.
	On entering the compartment, there was no one there.
	It's a small area with no place for anyone human to hide.
	The third time the ghost made himself known was to a woman who worked for the district office.
	She was updating blueprints while we were moored in Long Beach.
	Suddenly, it burst into the mess hall so scared she was shaking.
	She told us she had seen a translucent, transparent sailor walk out of a bulkhead of the passageway, glare at her, Continue on down the hall.
	She never came back on that ship.
	Jim, U.S.
	Coast Guard, retired.
	Shelton, Washington.
	Thank you, Jim.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Welcome.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Jamie, calling from Houston, Texas.
	How you doing, Jamie?
	I'm just fine.
	I'm a first-time caller, and I want to say that I've personally never seen a ghost, but the story I wanted to tell you has been in the family over 90 years, so I thought I might tell you.
	It's coming from three generations.
	You might tell me.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, my grandmother used to tell me, but her grandmother told her when she was a girl, her uncle, her mother's brother, his wife died after they had had a new baby.
	And he had a little girl that was six years old, and then they had a new baby.
	Well, when he would get the little girl and the baby bedded down at night, you know, there were no electric lights.
	It was just old shacks in South Carolina.
	He would go out late at night, you know, for a couple of hours.
	You know, but he would leave a fire burning in the fireplace.
	Sure.
	Well, one night he went out and he didn't come back.
	He stayed out a little late and, uh, the baby started to cry and the little girl being six years old, she was afraid cause the fire was burning out.
	She was afraid to get up.
	So after a while the baby cried and cried.
	After a while she heard this thump and then something came down the fireplace.
	So little girl said it looked like a big bird and the bird stood right in front of the fireplace and it started fanning its wings and the fire just Rose up and she could hear a voice saying, get up and give mama's baby some water.
	She couldn't see the face of the bird.
	She could only see the back, but she knew that was her mother's voice.
	So she walked around the bird and got the baby some water.
	When the baby was back down, the bird went back up into the fireplace, just like it came and the fire burnt real high all night long.
	And the little girl was telling her father about this big bird that came down the fireplace
	and told her to get up and give mama's baby some water.
	So when he told his mother, which is my grandmother's grandmother, my grandmother's 85 now, she
	told him never leave the children alone anymore.
	But it was just amazing how something good, I guess we could call it a ghost or whatever,
	but the mother just wanted her to get a baby some water, you know, little girl like that.
	Well, I suspect in the spirit world there is good and there's evil.
	Sure, and I just thought I wanted to share that with you because that's not evil, it was a good thing.
	I appreciate it.
	And my grandmother handed it down and I suppose when my son gets old and has grandchildren I'll hand it down to him.
	But thank you, Art, for having me and I'm listening to you.
	Alright, I'm glad.
	Thank you.
	That's KTRH Houston.
	I agree with that lady.
	There's good and there's evil.
	How many of you saw a movie called The Stand?
	Her bird story reminded me of this.
	In The Stand, The Stand was a wonderful movie.
	The first hour of it is possibly some of the best I've ever seen.
	It kind of deteriorated, in my view, after that, the television version.
	But in the stand, you may recall the large, black, evil bird.
	Well, I broadcast, for those of you who are just joining us, from my home, here in the middle of the desert, in the middle of nowhere, in a little town called Pahrump, Nevada.
	Laugh, if you will.
	At any rate, our town is famous for many things, but one of them is big, Black birds.
	And the movie they used, the bird they used for the movie, The Stand, came from right here in Pahrump.
	And those birds are all around me.
	So these are some of the biggest, but these birds are big enough to carry cats off.
	You don't mess with the birds out here.
	I don't know why they're so common to this area, but they're here.
	Big, big birds.
	Birds so big that if you can get near them and they begin to take off, their wingspan will, as they begin to beat their wings to get their big bodies in the air, you can feel the draft.
	They are that big.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	How are you?
	Okay.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Reno right now.
	Reno.
	K-O-H.
	That's right.
	This story happened to me I would say it was 1991, 1992.
	I don't remember the exact date.
	I was living in Guam.
	Guam?
	And I was at a friend's house and he was on his way out of the door.
	I had just shown up and he's like, well, hey, look, I'm going to a rosary, which is really common out there.
	It's very, very Catholic.
	And it's kind of like the remembrance of their loved ones that have passed away.
	Sure.
	Like, look, I'm on the way to this rosary.
	How about this?
	Come with me.
	That way it will keep it real short.
	We'll just stop in.
	We'll say hello, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	Pay our respects and then we'll take off.
	Right.
	Well, we get there.
	Everything is kind of fine.
	Everybody is kind of just mellow and it's mostly just the immediate family of this guy that had passed away.
	Yes.
	It was a guy that my friend had went to school with.
	So we're standing there.
	The guy that died's little sister came in.
	She was about maybe four or five years old, crying.
	She comes running from down the hall, and I don't remember the dead guy's name, but I'll just say David.
	She was crying, and her mother's like, what's the matter, hon?
	And she's like, well, David's here.
	And she was like, I don't want to hear that.
	Just kind of calm down.
	She's like, Mommy, David's here.
	He's here.
	And the grandmother said, look, just, you know, Your mother doesn't need this right now.
	Sure.
	And so everything was fine for about 15 minutes.
	Next thing you know, she's standing there and she says, look, there he is!
	And we all just kind of stopped and we're all looking down the hall and there's nothing.
	And she's like, can't you see him?
	We're like, no.
	And the grandmother by this time is getting a little irate and the mother's pretty much crying pretty profusely, I guess.
	And it wasn't a really good scene at this time.
	I've got you.
	So everything kind of chilled out a while.
	I'd say about five minutes past, she walks down the hall, comes back, and she's just saying, look, David wants us in his room now.
	Just to kind of humor her, I guess, the grandmother told my friend to go in the room with her.
	Sure.
	Also, her older brother, the one that was older than the one that had died, so I just followed.
	I don't know.
	It's kind of like one of those little horror movies, I guess.
	You want to know what's going on.
	So I followed him into the room and she's pointing to these, I guess they're cupboards or whatever, but they're kind of like sliding doors above the bed.
	They're about six feet up in the air.
	She's like, he wants us to open those.
	My friend goes over to open it and he can't make it budge.
	He cannot make this little door to this cupboard slide over.
	So he asked me to help him and I get up there and I'm not a little guy.
	I'm about 200 pounds and about six foot.
	Right.
	And I was budging and just pulling and pushing and we tried everything to get this open.
	There's two of us and we couldn't do it.
	And you know, I'm starting to get a little, not really upset, but just aggravated.
	Sure.
	And she's, you know, starting to cry again saying, do it, do it, do it.
	So the mother walks in and she's like, you know, calm down, calm down.
	Well, she said, and then the little girl said, no, he wants me to open it.
	So my friend picked her up and she slid it open with not not even a budge.
	It was just like she could use their pinky.
	Yeah.
	And in there were a bunch of personal artifacts and pictures.
	And the first thing that that they pulled out was a letter that he had written.
	To his little sister, in case something had ever happened to her.
	Oh, my God.
	And it was the scariest thing.
	I mean, it's... I... Yeah.
	Well, I... Listen, thank you very much for the story.
	I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
	That, though, is typical.
	And there are two things I would take from that.
	One, again, a person who has died coming back to give a message that must be given.
	Something that must be released from that spirit before it is released.
	But the other aspect of that story that I find intriguing is that I believe that children, little children, have more of an ability to see, experience, or touch the other side than we do.
	Now I wouldn't pretend to be able to tell you why, and there are adult sensitive certainly who have either maintained or nurtured that ability to see or reach or talk to the other side.
	But children in their innocence, I think, have something that the rest of us begin to lose as we get older.
	Because of the noise of society, the noise level, the signal to noise level, if you will.
	It was a deep thing that is either in all of us, or was once in all of us, or is still in all of us, that fades.
	But, you know, in children it has not yet faded.
	So children Have a unique kind of sensory ability the rest of us do not have.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	How you doing, Art?
	Okay, where are you?
	I'm in Canton, Michigan, which is just west of Detroit.
	Excellent.
	WJR, I bet.
	You betcha.
	All right.
	I just want to tell you about a really scary ghost story that involves my brother.
	This is back in 1983, October 7th.
	Yes, sir.
	And...
	You remember the date that well, huh?
	Well, I sure do because I was on the road.
	I was playing with a band in Saginaw, Michigan.
	I was playing at the Fourteen Hotel and I finished the job about 2.30 in the morning and I went up and I had a couple of beers and I laid down and all of a sudden I woke up and I was at the top of the stairs.
	We were staying on the second floor of the hotel and all of a sudden I felt an arm around me and it was like, I heard a, hey brother, go back to your room, you've got to go to sleep.
	Well, all of a sudden the next night I got a call from my mother that my brother had committed suicide and he had died two days earlier on the 6th.
	Oh boy.
	Any other visits or was that it?
	No, he visited me for about the next week and a half.
	He did?
	Yes.
	And talked with you?
	It was like I could feel a cold stare over me.
	A presence?
	Yes.
	Not unusual.
	Again, really typical.
	It was very strange.
	People pass and yet for some reason they don't quite pass.
	They're not quite ready.
	And I guess that was the case with your brother.
	Now, I'm curious.
	Were you comforted by that or frightened by it?
	I was comforted very much.
	Did it change you?
	Yeah, I think it did.
	I mean, does it tell you there is an afterlife?
	Yes, it does.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I sure do appreciate your story and your call.
	Thank you.
	You know, that is what it's all about.
	The search.
	Now, how are we to know there really is another side?
	Well, he knows.
	Other people who have experienced things like that, they know.
	And I may know something, but I don't want to talk about it.
	I'll let you do the talking.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Well, how art thou, Grandmaster of all Nye County?
	Well, thou art fine if you would turn your radio off.
	Okay, I sure did.
	Sorry about that, Art.
	Sorry.
	Where are you?
	I'm calling from Fresno, California, and I'm on KMJ 580.
	That's the one.
	You got it.
	I want to say one thing, I really enjoy your show and I enjoy Dreamland immensely.
	Thank you.
	It is a different kind of program.
	It certainly is.
	I think I have nightmares every Sunday night.
	If I may relate a story to your audience, I don't know if it's necessarily a ghost story, but I always thought it was spooky and I always think of it from time to time when I tell people.
	One Saturday morning, it was back in 1988.
	It was two weeks before I was going to go out of town, that's how I remember.
	I started to wake up on a Saturday morning and all of a sudden this blue light shined.
	It was like a blue light shined inside of my head.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Inside of your head?
	Yeah, it's like a TV, all of a sudden a large, like a TV or an image flickers inside of my head.
	Okay.
	I saw these people in a large or fairly good sized underground cavern or hallway or room.
	It was swathed, bathed in blue light.
	There were four of them.
	They were tall and they had jeweled masks on and robes.
	I had the feeling that the ones in the black were women and their hair was longish and
	black.
	The men had gray robes and their skin was white, white, white like Mickey Mouse.
	It lasted for about 30 seconds.
	From time to time I think of it as symbolic of something or what.
	I'll tell you, I was sure startled.
	I think subsequently I've told people about it and they've said, well, maybe there's a
	symbol there.
	What would you call that, a vision?
	I don't know, but for a moment, since then I haven't had something like this, but ironically I've been thinking that before I went to sleep, how we can possibly Uh, communicate with our ancestors, uh, psychically.
	And, I don't know if it's a positive or negative.
	Why do you think they were your ancestors?
	Well, I mean, this is, I got to thinking about that subject by coincidental.
	I don't think that they are, but I, I got the feeling they were from overseas.
	I don't know if that's of any, um, point of view.
	Maybe, uh, alright, thank you very much.
	Maybe what happened is, you just sort of crossed psychic paths for a few moments with somebody, Who was doing some kind of experiment somewhere else.
	Or somebody else who was dabbling in areas they perhaps should not have been.
	And you were simply the receptor for that tampering.
	Now that's an absolute stab in the dark for somebody who is simply a talk show host and listened to your story.
	I don't have the slightest idea what it was.
	But um...
	If you'd had a couple, it certainly would sober you up, wouldn't it?
	We'll be back.
	There'll be more.
	This is Ghost to Ghost AM.
	From the Kingdom of Nye, you're hearing Ghost to Ghost AM with Art Bell on the CBC Radio Network.
	Flash and orange stray cats sitting on a bench.
	Ain't got enough dough to pay the rent.
	I'm flat broke but I don't care.
	Actually, everybody, this is Ghost to Ghost AM.
	Good morning.
	I'm Art Bell.
	We're telling ghost stories.
	Tonight, maybe tomorrow night.
	Oh, and they're weird.
	Very weird.
	Take this one, for example, Art.
	As soon as you suggested we turn down the lights, if we dare, the lights in my room dimmed by half.
	As I write this, they're still dimmed.
	Oh, that's weird.
	Really weird.
	This is the night for weird.
	Then this.
	Hi Art Grate Show!
	First off, in my 35 years, I have never encountered anything of a strange nature before.
	That is, until just recently.
	I'll let you decide if this is a ghost story or not.
	But I'm now convinced.
	I've been living at an apartment complex for about two and a half years.
	I work nights, therefore I sleep in the day.
	Fakers, I do too.
	After a few months, um, a few months after moving into my apartment, I'd be awakened from a sound sleep by the feeling that someone was in bed with me.
	It was as though someone was thrashing wildly about the bed.
	But when I looked at the bed, it was as empty as was the bedroom.
	This happened every day during the month of September and stopped after September 21st.
	I thought it was just a sleep disorder.
	Since it seemed to have disappeared, I soon forgot.
	Then, the following September, the same thing happened.
	And just as before, it stopped after the 21st.
	I went to my doctor.
	I discussed it with him, and he gave me some pills.
	Anyway, last month, it began again, and the pills did not work.
	As the 21st approached, the thrashing feeling would be more intense and last longer in, uh, into the, uh, to the point where I could no longer get any sleep.
	Now, after two days of no sleep, I came home from work, and a neighbor, who I've been having a passing acquaintance with, noticed my haggard look.
	He asked me if I was sick.
	I told him that I wasn't getting much sleep lately.
	One thing led to another.
	And before I knew it, I told him of my strange tale, but I left out the thing about it only happening during the month of September.
	Now, this guy has lived at this complex for 15 years, and here's what he told me.
	Quote, I often wondered why no one stayed for very long in your unit.
	Now I think I know.
	Back in September of 1981, a young lady lived in your apartment.
	And later that month was found dead on her bed.
	The autopsy showed that she had been strangled and put up one hell of a fight.
	End quote.
	Now I believe the thrashing about my bed is the spirit of this lady.
	Another thing that's strange is that it only happens during the day, not the night.
	Therefore, I feel she must have died during the day.
	What do you think?
	What should I do?
	Jim in Phoenix, Arizona.
	Buddy, I wouldn't begin to try to tell you what to do.
	I don't know.
	More Ghost to Ghost AM in just a moment.
	I call it that.
	Normally the name of the show, by the way, is Coast to Coast AM.
	But tonight, and maybe a bit of tomorrow night, It's ghost to ghost.
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	One other note, then it's back to the stories.
	It involves absolutely fresh flowers.
	This is a company in Southern California that sends only good spirits.
	One other note, then it's back to the stories.
	It involves absolutely fresh flowers.
	This is a company in Southern California that sends only good spirits, emotions, love, feeling,
	caring.
	And they send them directly to you or to the person you want them to go to the next day.
	Here's the deal.
	It's a flower farm.
	They sell flowers to you, minus the cost of getting them there, at the wholesale rate.
	So when you call the flower farm, they actually go out, cut the flowers, pack them up in this big triangular box, and they go off next day by FedEx.
	So you call today.
	The flowers are delivered during the week tomorrow.
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	Let me give that one more time.
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	West of the Rockies.
	You're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Where are you calling from, please?
	Houston, Alaska.
	Houston, Alaska.
	Right.
	All right.
	Welcome to the show.
	Thanks.
	My name's Linda.
	Hi, Linda.
	And let me tell you first that I was born on Friday the 13th.
	And this story that I'm going to tell you happened to me 35 years ago when I was 13 in a place called Westfield, Massachusetts.
	All right.
	And at 13, I went to a public school there.
	And at 13, I had a crush on a boy that went to Catholic school.
	And I talked a couple of my friends in on a Monday night to go to see him after catechism got out.
	Ah, yes.
	And we had a curfew time.
	We had to be home.
	And we knew we were going to be late.
	So my friend, which was a kiddie corner to the church, was an old cemetery.
	And it had the rock iron and the stone wall.
	As a child, I don't remember it ever being used, but it was an old cemetery.
	It was pretty shut down.
	My friends talked me into going through the cemetery to take a shortcut home.
	I was always a tomboy and wasn't afraid of anything, so we took off through the cemetery running.
	And halfway through the cemetery... Well, if you weren't afraid, then why were you running?
	Well, we had a deadline to get home.
	Oh, I've got you.
	Alright.
	Okay?
	We took off running through the cemetery, and halfway through the cemetery, I fell through the ground.
	I beg your pardon?
	I fell through the ground.
	Through the ground.
	In other words, you... Into a hole, which I assumed was a grave.
	A grave.
	Yeah, right.
	And the dirt came in down around me.
	Oh, boy.
	And I was screaming.
	I had...
	Um, bugs that I assume were termites.
	They had wings on them that were, I was covered with.
	Oh my God.
	And at that time as 13 years old, I was only about five one.
	I didn't know how I was going to get out of here.
	I remember screaming and I felt something around my feet, a pressure, not any, nothing, you know, that was grabbing onto me, but some kind of pressure that lifted me up out of that dirt.
	And I was at a dead run and I didn't stop until I got to the other side of the cemetery.
	And my friends were there and I was covered with dirt and I was covered with all these, which I assume probably were termites, bugs that were all over me.
	And I never, to this day, have been in a cemetery.
	I'm 48 years old, and I've never been back at a cemetery to this day.
	I cannot say I blame you.
	That, to me, would be the end of me, dear, because I would have a heart attack right on the spot.
	That was very scary.
	Fortunately, your heart was young enough to take it, I guess.
	Right.
	Great story.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Take care from Alaska.
	Oh, man.
	Can you imagine running across a cemetery in the dark, falling into a grave with bugs crawling all over you?
	I remember, you remember poltergeist?
	I don't know, it's etched into my memory.
	Do you remember at the end when the graves began popping up and they fell into the pool?
	Do you remember that?
	And the skeletons and the sort of half Fleshy half non-fleshy things began popping up in the pool.
	I wouldn't make it through that.
	I wouldn't even begin to make it through that.
	I'd turn around in that mucky water and look at one of those flabbing flesh things and I'd have my heart attack on the spot.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello, Art.
	Hello, where are you?
	Austin, Texas.
	Austin, welcome.
	Yes, I'm calling about a story that if my family finds out I'm telling this, I'm going to be in big trouble.
	It occurred in Louisiana about 100 years ago, and it's still occurring to this day.
	It's a 100-year-old ghost story that occurred originally in Cachette, Louisiana.
	I had an aunt and uncle.
	That lived a hundred years ago, several generations removed, and they were recently married.
	My aunt died shortly after the marriage, and the uncle was completely devastated.
	When he was going to bury his wife, she was in her twenties.
	They hadn't been married for a year.
	He had the coffin ordered from New Orleans.
	He wanted a special coffin.
	He wanted a glass coffin.
	He wanted her buried in Metairie Cemetery in New Orleans.
	He was told that it would take six months for the coffin to be ordered.
	He waited for the coffin to come up to Shreveport, up to his area, and he would keep the corpse upstairs in his house.
	uh... in the bedroom and according to the the the servants at the house he
	would uh... kiss the corpse every night before
	he would go to bed uh... hit the servant said
	uh... well he would order them to take the corpse out every day and air the
	corpse out and for six months
	And he had a Ouija board, as you were talking about earlier.
	Yes.
	A Ouija board.
	The servant said he would talk to the corpse every night and have conversations.
	And apparently this was a jealous ghost.
	And the servants were horrified.
	They would not clean this room.
	They said that candles wouldn't light when they went up there.
	There was cold air.
	The candles would blow out.
	They could hear low-level whispers, and they said objects would fall from the room.
	And at night, after a while, after a certain point, they would hear conversations between my uncle and some other voice.
	The corpse, I presume.
	Oh, my goodness.
	And so, as I say, no one would go into this room for many years.
	Eventually the glass coffin did arrive.
	They did bury her in Metairie Cemetery in New Orleans.
	She's still there to this day in a crypt.
	Did that end it?
	No, because up until the 1970s, all of my relatives who would go to visit this house would not visit that room.
	They still said that cold area was still there.
	They could still feel the presence.
	I remember going there as a child with my aunt.
	My aunt had shaky legs.
	She wouldn't even walk up the stairs.
	They could hear the squeaky wheels of the wheelbarrow at night, the wheelbarrow that was supposed to air out the corpse.
	They could still hear that in the 1960s and 70s.
	And there was a portrait that they couldn't photograph.
	Is this something that your family will not talk about?
	It's not something that they're proud of, but it is something that everyone knows about.
	There is a certain member in the family who is a keeper of the key to the crypt.
	who does have a key to the...
	Would you go in there?
	Um, yeah, I guess I would.
	Just out of curiosity, because it's been something I've heard about all my life, and I'm curious about it.
	Alright, well, listen, I very much appreciate your call, but there's no way that I would.
	There's no way!
	Absolutely no way!
	Now, you tell me, you explain to me, but that man is just like the women in the low-cut dresses who, the moment you hear the bump and the grind in the basement, immediately do what?
	They go down the stairs to the basement, the one place where you know they ought not go.
	Everybody knows evil things lurk in dark basements, but they go straight down there and see if that fellow had the key, where would he go?
	He'd go, he'd go look and he'd go look at the body.
	I know he would.
	I wouldn't.
	Would you?
	Listen, I want to tell you two things.
	One, if you would like a copy, and we have over two more hours of this program yet to do.
	This is one program that we make available to the audience.
	If you would like a copy of the program you are listening to right now, you can call 1-800-917-4278.
	Let me give you that number again because I know a lot of you are going to want it.
	It's 1-800-917-4278 and it is good now 24 hours a day.
	It is the Ghost to Ghost Halloween Show.
	One other little item.
	We know we're going on in a whole bunch of new affiliate areas this morning.
	Love to hear from you by fax.
	We do have a 24-hour a day fax service.
	Which sounds pretty fancy.
	It's really just a fax machine in my living room.
	The number is area code 702-727-8499.
	Let me give that to you again.
	I'd love to hear from somebody in New York, confirming we're on way back in New York, Rochester.
	Area code 702-727-8499.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Well, hello, Art.
	Hello.
	This is Scott from Graham, Washington.
	Hello, Scott.
	And this is something that happened over on the west side of Olympic Mountains.
	Yes, sir.
	And it's up the Cuites River.
	Anyway, there was four of us and we had two pickup trucks and one camper on one truck.
	We went up to this beautiful spot with a river and on the other side of the river is a cliff with these just huge boulders, probably five to a thousand pound boulders.
	Just huge.
	Big rocks.
	Big rocks.
	We got up there and it was dusk.
	When it's dark up there, I mean it is dark, I mean you can't even see your hand in front of your face.
	Understood.
	And so we decided to sit all in one camper and have a good old poker game.
	So we're all sitting around playing poker and it was about 1.30 a.m.
	and we heard some splashes in the river and we heard some grunts.
	Grunts?
	Yeah, just kind of huge grunts.
	So we figured it was probably a bear out there having fun in the river, you know.
	Don't like grunts.
	Yeah, and so after a while, the grunts seemed to get louder.
	And we heard like big rocks hitting each other.
	You know how you can hear the crack of rocks?
	Of course.
	And after a while, these rocks seemed to get closer and closer to our camper.
	And you could feel the rocks hit the ground outside to kind of a big thud.
	And I'm telling you, we all looked at each other and we said, nobody's going outside.
	I mean, we were armed to the teeth, but we were scared to death.
	I wouldn't.
	You mean like those gigantic rocks, you know, coming out of the air and hitting the ground like that?
	Yes.
	It's just like somebody was over there throwing these huge rocks.
	And then, you know, I wanted to call you last week about the Sasquatch Sound because You wouldn't believe this.
	I mean, the hair on the back of our necks was standing up.
	It's standing up now.
	Was it like the sound I've got?
	It was close, but not really.
	I mean... I mean, were it closer to the first one that Linda Howe sent, or the second one?
	The second one.
	That absolutely horrible... I don't know what I would call that.
	I would call that... It almost sounds human.
	To me, it sounded like a man...
	In horrible, horrible agony.
	That's the only way I can think to put it.
	Is that about the way it sounded?
	Oh, you wouldn't believe it, Art.
	It was just about like that.
	And it was echoing up and down the river.
	And it was terrible.
	We were terrified.
	And these rocks, you could almost hear them whistling through the air.
	And they're crashing on the other side of our camper.
	They're hitting in the water.
	And the cracking of the rocks.
	And this went on for three hours.
	And we were scared.
	What did you guys do?
	You just sit there and sort of shake at the table?
	Well, we were on the floor of the camper.
	We just couldn't move.
	We didn't know if one of these rocks were going to hit us.
	Now you see, that sounds realistic to me.
	That's where I'd be.
	Floor of the camper.
	You betcha.
	And we were armed to the teeth, let me tell you.
	I was ready for anything.
	And this went on for three hours.
	And it was about like 4.30 in the morning.
	And the sun started coming up.
	And we're all looking at each other going, thank God!
	Especially because I had to go to the bathroom.
	Anyway, and so we finally had enough nerve to go outside the door because the crashing and everything had stopped like about an hour before the sun came up.
	See, I would have waited too.
	For the crashing to stop and for the sun to come up.
	Okay, sounds good so far.
	Okay, so we decided we'd go outside.
	And finally we opened up the door and we all got out and I said, you guys get out here, you gotta see this.
	and the other truck which is fine but around our truck and the camper
	worthy huge boulders circle around the camper
	hopeful uh...
	what uh...
	uh... i presume to this day you have no idea what it was
	No, but it had to be something awfully big.
	Awfully big.
	Because it took us pushing with one truck and pulling with another to get him far enough out of the way so we could get the truck and the camper out.
	That's an incredible story.
	Do you swear that's true?
	Oh yes.
	This happened in 1975 because it's when I got out of the service All four of us got together because we used to go on camping trips when we were in high school.
	To this day, when we get together, this is something we always talk about.
	You still talk about it.
	I can imagine you would.
	That one is almost a topper.
	What an absolutely incredible story.
	And so that's where it ended.
	You hauled the rocks away and that was it.
	Yeah, we pushed them out of the way and we got out of there.
	And I have never been up there again.
	I can't blame you.
	Thank you.
	I will not go.
	Thank you very much for the story.
	Thank you, sir.
	Take care.
	Something that big with those kinds of rocks.
	No thank you.
	This is Ghost to Ghost AM.
	I'm Art Bell.
	For some, we'll be right back.
	Thanks for watching.
	This is a video of the newly added version of the game.
	It's a bit of a stretch to say the least, but I hope you'll enjoy it.
	Thanks for watching.
	Art Bell is taking calls on the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
	That's 702-727-1295.
	First time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
	702-727-1222.
	Now, here again, Art Bell.
	That's 702-727-1295. First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
	702-727-1222. Now, here again, Art Bell.
	Good morning. It's Halloween all across America.
	you.
	And we're doing what we do every Halloween.
	We're doing ghost to ghost.
	If you've got a good ghost story, we're here for you.
	But first, something that somebody should have thought of long, long, long ago.
	Oh.
	Laprina.
	You know what that is?
	It's aspirin.
	Well, that's not magic.
	Aspirin's been around for... But wait a minute.
	You don't have to take Laprina.
	In fact, you shouldn't.
	By mouth.
	It's not even in tablet form.
	This is spray-on aspirin.
	Now, you say, well, what do you mean spray-on?
	Aspirin, normally you take pills, right?
	You digest it.
	Digestive tract 101, we've talked about that.
	Gets into your bloodstream, and you have pain relief.
	Takes a long time, and is not very specific.
	Laprena, just like a nicotine patch that you put on your arm, you know, puts nicotine into your bloodstream.
	Laprena, you spray on your skin, say you've got a sore knee, sore shoulder, You spray it directly on the area where you want the miracle.
	Ladies and gentlemen, aspirin does not need to be taken orally.
	It can be sprayed on.
	That's what Laprena is.
	The people who use it, I'm one of them, say it is damn near miraculous.
	It is.
	Call them.
	If you want Laprena, call them.
	It is Health Naturally that sells it.
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	And the number is 1-800-308-4565.
	That's 1-800-308-4565.
	And if you ask them, they will tell you a way to get Laprina at a very low rate, indeed.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	No, I think we just missed that person.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Yes.
	I'm going to go straight for you.
	All right.
	All ears.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Pasco, Washington.
	Okay.
	I was camping earlier this summer with a friend up in the mountains.
	There was actually three of us.
	Another camping story.
	Did you hear the last one?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Not that bizarre, actually.
	We were up in the mountains, probably 20 miles from the nearest town and 10 miles from the nearest person, way out on a logging road up on a clear cut.
	Some place we used to go just for the weekend or something where nobody would be around.
	I grew up there and me and this girl went walking down the road and my friend was sitting up by the campfire and we come back about 10-15 minutes later and he's in the car hiding.
	He's probably got tired and went to sleep.
	He gets out of the car and goes, who is the guy that just came by?
	The victim said, get real man, we're 10 miles from the nearest person, who the heck could come up here?
	He said, some guy in a black robe comes by and looks at him and says, this isn't right.
	Meaning, he thought, what, this isn't right that you are here?
	That's what neither one of us can understand, because he'd never been there before.
	And the road that I was on, they had clear-cut it in another direction, so the road was almost grown over, and I remembered where it was.
	You know, it was one of the roads that trees had now come up in the middle of.
	Right.
	And we had no idea what the heck he was talking about, and he just kept going on.
	Somebody came by and said, this isn't right.
	He just kept going on and on.
	So finally we just left because he was just going ecstatic about it.
	That's weird alright.
	That's very weird.
	And so you just never found out anything more about this?
	Huh?
	He still, every time I talk to the guy he still goes on about this.
	He still thinks I had somebody up there with us.
	But where we were it was impossible for anybody to have found us.
	It was one of those places if you were to get hurt or something nobody would find you.
	Well, I guess that's one of those things you're going to have to wonder about your whole life, huh?
	Apparently.
	I have another quick one, if you don't mind.
	Very quickly, yes.
	I worked in a plant up in a little city up north of here called Lake Stevens.
	Actually, it's on the other side of the mountains from us.
	Right.
	And I was in working one night.
	Actually, it was a Prestalog plant.
	It was very noisy, so you wore earplugs.
	And all of a sudden, I heard somebody call my voice.
	There was only two of us that worked in the plant.
	So I figured it was the other guy, and he was out on the forklift outside.
	So I went outside, and as I'm going out, he's coming in and said, what did you want?
	There was nobody around.
	He said the plant had been doing it ever since they had built the plant.
	It's done that.
	One person will hear somebody call their name, and the other person will come in, as the
	other person's going to look for the other one.
	But nobody could figure it out.
	Well, it's just, it's in line.
	Thank you very much for the story.
	It's exactly the kind of thing we're talking about.
	Art, my father died of cancer in the summer of 1992.
	Now, I'm in the Navy.
	Was stationed in Maryland at the time.
	I knew he was ill, but the cancer spread to his spine unexpectedly and caused him to become incapacitated literally overnight.
	My wife and I had to travel to the hospital in Florida.
	He was so incoherent by then that I never got a chance to speak to him one last time.
	He died a few days after our arrival, moments before we got to the hospital on that particular day.
	After paying my respects and comforting my mom, my wife and I left the hospital.
	We entered an elevator that was going down to the lower parking area.
	Suddenly the elevator began going up And stopped on the next floor.
	The door opened, but there was no one inside.
	Also, there were no stairs that anyone could have exited by.
	The doors began to close and then opened abruptly as if someone were blocking the entrance.
	This happened several times until my wife finally said, OK, Preston, knock it off.
	The doors closed.
	The elevator took us to our desired floor.
	I feel this was simply an attempt by my father to let me know that he was there.
	That he was okay.
	Just thought you'd enjoy the story.
	Thanks.
	James in Honolulu, Hawaii.
	There you are.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	How you doing, Art?
	Okay.
	I've been trying to get a hold of you all night.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Cape Verde, Missouri listening on KZIM.
	Oh, that's right.
	You're on a portable phone, too, aren't you?
	A portable phone, yes.
	Yep.
	Do you have a regular one?
	No, I don't.
	You don't.
	All right.
	Well, we'll put up with it.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I've got a story that's really going to scare you and kind of scare me whenever I think about it.
	But I used to be in the Air Force, and I was stationed at F.B.
	Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
	Right.
	And it's a really haunted base.
	If anybody knows about that base, they know what I'm talking about.
	Haunted in what way?
	Well, it used to be an old Calvary base.
	And there's been a lot of murders.
	A lot of Calvary murders, Indian murders, suicides.
	Just stuff like that in the dormitories.
	It's just a really haunted base.
	I mean, there's ghosts of dogs in the dorm that I used to live in.
	Really?
	Yeah, it was really scary.
	I was going through some really rough times.
	I just moved back into the dormitory and every once in a while I would see this dark cloud, kind of like a gas cloud, above my bed or down the hall.
	Whenever I would look at it directly it wouldn't be there anymore.
	Then I would be getting dressed and taking care of my uniform, looking in the mirror and everything.
	Out of the corner of my eye I would see this face and these hands peeking at me around And I'd look, and nothing would be there.
	And the face was all black, and it had blue, kind of bluish eyes.
	Dad.
	I mean, dark blue, like, like a navy blue.
	Uh-huh.
	And, um, I mean, it was just really scary.
	And then one night, I was missing home really bad, and I thought, well, my mom... Alright, sir, your phone is breaking up.
	Okay, can you hear me better?
	Yeah, that's better.
	Okay.
	Quick moving around.
	Alright, my mother is into the New Age stuff.
	She was telling me about a lot of the stuff she used to do and I tried it once.
	I tried to go back home.
	She called it astral projection and I tried that.
	I didn't know how to do it but I was laying down on my bed and I was concentrating as hard as I could on home and I felt myself sit up.
	But when I looked I saw my body laying down and I could see.
	Right through my legs, I could see through everything.
	Ooh, that's weird.
	Yeah, and then a friend of mine, I saw a friend of mine come through the door and say, Hey Spence, get up, are you coming with us?
	And at that moment, it felt like I was sucked down into my body.
	And it scared me so bad I never tried it again.
	I don't blame you.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	It was a terrible phone, but a good story.
	I also believe that projection from the body, what he called astral projection, is possible.
	That if we, kind of like in some of the movies that I've seen, somewhere in time particularly, our mind is capable of many, many things, including possibly time travel and out-of-body travel.
	I'm not an expert.
	I simply listen to the stories.
	On our first time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hello there.
	Hello, Howard.
	Yes.
	Oh, my name is Samantha.
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	Well I just thought I'd tell you a few flower stories about my mother.
	One time I was talking to her.
	She died in 1982.
	I'm sorry.
	She was talking to me about 1976 and I'm on the phone and she said all of a sudden she started to smell flowers.
	She was very strong like stalk or carnation.
	That's the flower my sister Edith likes.
	And about an hour later she got a call that Edith had died.
	Then when my mother died I of course got the flowers and I've been getting them every year or so.
	It's like a bubble around your head and if you walk away from it you don't smell it.
	When you walk back to where you were, you smell it.
	So it's in place, and you have to walk into it, literally?
	Yes.
	Or I'll be sitting on the couch, reading or something, and all of a sudden it'll come around my head.
	And it's like a bubble.
	And it's sweet peas with my mother, because that was her flower.
	And if I walk away from it, it's gone.
	I go back, and it's there.
	And it lasts about five minutes.
	This has happened to two of my sons.
	Energy?
	Usually in doorways.
	Uh-huh.
	And you know, there's no flowers in the house, no perfume or anything.
	And you'll walk out of the doorway.
	My son said, what's that smell?
	And I said, well, walk back in the doorway and you'll find it again.
	And it's just her little visitation.
	Well, I believe you.
	I surely do believe you.
	And I thank you for the call.
	And I'll tell you something.
	I've heard many stories that involve spirits of people and flowers.
	Flowers that have lived as long as a person lives, and flowers that have been healthy and thriving, and then the moment somebody dies, the flower, the bush, the tree dies.
	Is there some kind of sympathetic reaction?
	I don't know what you'd call it, but I have heard many, many such stories.
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	So there you are everybody.
	So we're glad you have still got us.
	Do you have a story?
	Yes, I do.
	In fact, I've got, it's a, I'm not sure just where to start because this The situation started with Ouija Board, as you were talking about earlier, but the part I want to tell you about most occurred further on down, so I'll skip that.
	I was in my freshman year at a small Southern college and ran into a guy in the student center who started talking about witchcraft and was telling us stuff and claimed to be a black witch and had me curious.
	There were three others that were with me a lot that we were talking to him about it.
	One day he wanted us to go with him that night to a black mass.
	I was brought up Protestant.
	I wasn't sure what mass was.
	My best friend, my roommate, had a test scheduled the next day.
	She said she wasn't going to go.
	She had to study and get some sleep.
	The key word, of course, was black.
	There are masses and masses.
	Yes.
	I don't know that I really believed that he was a witch.
	I thought that a lot of it he was just trying to take advantage of gullible freshmen.
	So there was a curiosity factor?
	Yeah.
	So we decided we were going to go.
	This was back during the time when the dorms were locked at 11 o'clock and the women were not allowed to be out of the dorms back in the dark ages.
	So I chickened out at the last minute and decided I wasn't going to go.
	Because if I had gotten caught out of the dorm, I could have been expelled and I would have worked too hard to get to college to take the risk.
	So we had planned to leave by different doors and meet outside and I just didn't go.
	I felt really bad.
	I felt like I was being punished for something I hadn't done because I wasn't able to participate.
	During the night, maybe 5 AM, I'm not sure exactly.
	The fire alarm went off in the building, and it was an old building.
	This happened periodically.
	I wondered if maybe my friends had caused somebody to set off the alarm for them to help cover getting back in the next morning.
	So I threw on my raincoat.
	We always kept a raincoat and shoes handy because the alarm went off so frequently, and headed out the front door.
	I was watching for them as I went out, and I saw them coming back in.
	They were ahead of me and I tried to push through the crowd and catch up to them.
	They had gotten on the elevator and just before the elevator closed I got close enough to see them.
	They were facing forward and they were white as a sheet.
	They looked like some of the shock victims that you see sometimes on Red Cross disaster films walking around.
	And I didn't know what was going on.
	It was an old elevator and it moved slow, so I went running on up the steps because I figured I could beat it up to the third floor where their room was and catch them as they got off.
	Yes.
	It got started and I was about halfway up and I heard the alarm go off in the elevator.
	It had stalled between floors.
	Oh boy.
	And what had happened, I found out later, they had packed like 15 people, you know, just as tight as they could pack them in there.
	Before the doors closed and the capacity of the elevator was around 8,000 pounds or something.
	I mean 800 pounds.
	It was just a small elevator.
	They just had really overloaded it almost double.
	Okay, we're almost out of time.
	So quickly, what happened?
	Well, bottom line, there's a lot more.
	The bottom line with him is... I don't know where to go from this.
	When they finally got them, it took like three hours to get everybody out of the elevator.
	And my two friends were both in shock and were sedated and their parents picked them up that day and took them home and I didn't see them again.
	But there was a guy that disappeared that night also that we found out later.
	It took a few days.
	And the guy that I'd been talking to in the student center told me that he was going to turn up soon.
	And about three weeks later we heard that his body had been found in the college lake His neck, his throat had been cut and it looked like his body had been drained of blood.
	Oh my God.
	Alright, well look, we're going to have to leave it there because we're out of time, but that was pretty gory.
	A lot of bad stories seem to involve elevators, don't they?
	I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have elevators in a place like this.
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	This is Ghost to Ghost, actually. Good morning, everybody.
	Is this not a fabulous rendition?
	You know what this is, don't you?
	you No?
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	It's the London Symphony.
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	Hello, Art.
	I just recently found you for the first time on KABC 790 in Los Angeles, and I'm very glad to have done so.
	Great shows.
	Thanks to you and KABC.
	From the time I was about 7 years old to 15, I used to have a recurring dream.
	Premonition?
	Maybe about once every couple of months.
	It would always end the same, with me sitting straight up in bed in cold sweats and scared so... so bad it's hard to describe.
	The dream always started with two guys in an old Jeep out in the desert, just cruising along.
	I can see the desert and the worn dirt road.
	I can feel the heat.
	I can hear the sounds as they're going down this old, totally deserted road.
	Everything's just fine.
	The Jeep begins to go up a long, inclined hill.
	There are telephone poles along the left side of the road, and the road seems to be almost perfectly straight, stretching out behind, climbing with the slope in front.
	Up till here, everything's just fine.
	Then the Jeep crests the top of the hill, and I can never see anything that the two guys see.
	But what I do see is just their faces.
	Just sheer terror.
	Not fear, but something worse.
	Last time I would see that Jeep turn on its right side off the road about 20 feet, looking like it had been there for a long time.
	When I was 15, I went to school with a friend, down to Salton Sea in California, a desert.
	Second day we were there, he said he wanted to show me some old abandoned buildings, so we took off in his grandfather's Jeep, out what was called Power Line Road.
	We were about an hour from the house.
	The road began to climb upward, power lines on the left.
	All at once, all that fear from the dreams came back like a tidal wave, and I began to freak.
	I'm yelling at Steve to stop the Jeep or I'm gonna jump out.
	I was not going over the crest of that hill, no way.
	At first, he thought I was messing with him.
	But he realized I meant it.
	He stopped and I told him about the dreams.
	He kind of laughed at them.
	But we turned around and never, ever went down that road again.
	I never had the dream again.
	But the hair on the back of my neck is standing up now the way it did That day.
	Dan in Los Angeles.
	I believe you, Dan.
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	Cameron in San Francisco, KSFO.
	Hi, Cameron.
	Well, I got a whole bunch of them, and I had to think about it, and I finally came up with the best one that I've experienced.
	That's what I like.
	Okay.
	Well, this one... Did you ever see 2010?
	Of course.
	Well, you remember where that ghost is on the ship, and he says that something's about to happen, something wonderful?
	I do.
	Well, this is that kind of story.
	Alright.
	When I was about 20, I...
	I just became a father on accident, and I was sitting in a keroke bar sulking.
	I wasn't drinking, but I was in the keroke bar sulking, getting ready to sing, and my girlfriend walked in, and she's about six months pregnant, and I wasn't supposed to be out that night.
	I just figured, you know, I got all this youth inside me, and I kind of realized at that point, you know, I was just... So you were going to try to sing away your blues?
	I was going to sing away my blues!
	I just wanted to ignore the fact that, well, I guess it's time to grow up.
	I hear you.
	I mean, it is very sobering when she walks in and you see the big belly and you realize... Well, I'm sitting there, and a few years before that I made an oath, and this was a spiritual mistake on my part.
	I swore on my father's grave that I would quit smoking, and I'm sitting here in front of my computer with a cigarette right now.
	Well, I'm sitting in that bar and I got this strange feeling, right, that somebody was standing behind me.
	You know when you get that feeling like you're being watched?
	Right.
	Well, I'm sitting there and I get this strange feeling.
	I'm standing behind me and since then I kind of think I've got eyes in the back of my head, you know, and I could almost make out this figure watching me.
	I know that feeling.
	Yeah, I'm sure you do.
	Especially with all the phone calls you get and who knows what might be standing behind you that comes through the phone lines like that one witch said.
	You're absolutely right, yes.
	Don't remind me, please.
	I won't.
	Well, at any rate, I'm standing there and all of a sudden I feel these hands on my shoulder and I knew, I just knew that it was my dad and I could feel him He was standing there, putting his hands on my shoulder, going, it's alright son, you gotta grow up.
	And I could hear this little voice, and I swear to God, it was right through the music.
	I even remember the song was playing, was White Rabbit.
	And I heard this voice say, it's okay, it's just okay.
	And then I felt this light behind me, and he just left.
	It kind of brought me... I've been listening to you talk about this God thing.
	How would God let himself be known?
	After that moment, I kind of think that we just know.
	If God was to come here, if we're these humans, we just know it was Him.
	We wouldn't have to ask.
	We wouldn't have to wonder, huh?
	Yeah.
	It's a good point.
	I said it's a good point that people would just know.
	Yeah, we got it in us.
	But since that day, every time I look at my daughter, and right now I'm getting chills up my spine, I can see them in her eyes.
	I don't know if it's one of those reincarnation things, I don't know what it is, but I just get this eerie sense that every time I look in her eyes, there's somebody I've known for years in there.
	But I don't know.
	I just thought I'd tell you about that one because it's my favorite.
	I appreciate it, sir.
	And I appreciate your call.
	Thank you.
	Of course I know what you mean.
	and to look into your daughter's eyes and to see him well that is one way we live on
	isn't it Thank you.
	On the first time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi.
	I'm calling from Merced KY West.
	Yes, indeed.
	And mine's very short, and I don't know if it's a ghost or a real person, but I was up in the Santa Cruz Mountains in a Volkswagen in the 1970s somewhere.
	And with my friend, and we were coming back from a place up in the Santa Cruz Mountains called the Chateau Liberté.
	Yes.
	And anyway, we're coming down these mountains, and they're all curvy and everything, and as we came down... Probably Route 17, wasn't it?
	Yeah!
	Yeah, a matter of fact.
	I know the road.
	All right, great.
	Well, you know, then it's all rocky at some areas on the side with all tree... I mean, it's all green and all that, and trees, and... But anyway, we're coming... It's a two-lane road, right?
	We're coming along and it's down one of the downhill ways and we're kind of talking, a couple of girls and we're talking and there's this man lying in the road on our side of the road and he's lying in the road with his head on the white line and he has on a suit that's kind of checkered.
	It's not a normal suit but it's a suit.
	We just noticed it very quickly.
	It's a checkered suit and he's just lying there and we dodged him at the last moment.
	That's all we ever saw of him.
	It was just a dodge of this man, but he was lying there and he was smiling.
	He wasn't dead.
	He wasn't squished or anything.
	He was just lying in the road.
	We looked back and he couldn't see in the dark, but there wasn't a grimace on his face
	or any pain or anything.
	He was just lying in the middle of the road.
	Well, you lie on the white line long enough and you will be squished.
	Well, absolutely.
	There was headlights way in the distance behind us and they didn't make a swerve or anything, so we didn't know.
	One other really quick thing is my mother grew up in the hills of Virginia.
	And she told me lots of stories.
	They had many sisters, you know, seven sisters.
	Anyway, they were coming home one night and their mother, through the woods, if you can imagine coming home through the woods at night, but they did it all the time then.
	And at any rate, they came in and they were supposed to get home before dark and they didn't.
	And there was a little creek-like thing that they had to jump over and it was small enough to jump over.
	But when they jumped over, it was dark, and they were afraid of getting wet and getting in trouble.
	And as they jumped over, a match went underneath of them out of the middle of the water.
	Yeah, there are many stories like that from them.
	All right, thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	All right, take care.
	The one about the road.
	17 is a rough highway.
	It's like Highway 1 in a lot of ways, though, inland.
	And then there's Blood Alley up in San Jose.
	Roads where a lot of people have been killed tend to be roads that are haunted.
	It's not really a reach to understand why.
	People died there.
	Spirits, energy, linger on those roads.
	It's just the way it is.
	You don't believe?
	That's fine.
	But it is true, you know.
	You're listening to Coast to Coast AM, actually this night, called Ghost to Ghost.
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	Where are you?
	I am in Owensboro, Kentucky, listening to WMI.
	That's a good place to be.
	Welcome.
	Oh, thanks.
	Have you ever heard of a ghost fire?
	A ghost fire?
	Yeah.
	Not exactly.
	Well, our railway station here in Owensboro was converted into a pizza place.
	Maybe.
	I'm sorry, into a what?
	A pizza.
	A restaurant.
	I understand.
	Into a restaurant.
	And I worked there.
	And there was this huge fireplace close to the kitchen.
	But it hadn't been used for years.
	There's no reason to.
	But you could... You could hear the flames crackling in it and feel heat from it, but there wasn't anything there.
	Oh, now that's weird.
	Now, have you ever heard of anything like that?
	I know it happened.
	Everybody that worked there knew it.
	Did it happen?
	But we could never come up with an explanation.
	Did it happen frequently?
	Yes.
	I don't think I'd like that.
	Well, it was a spooky old place.
	It just every now and then happened, huh?
	Yeah.
	So you could go over near it and warm yourself by the invisible... You could feel heat from it, you could hear the fire crackling, but you didn't see any fire.
	It was just there.
	No, you're the first.
	Well, good.
	But this is a place for a first.
	I appreciate your story.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	I have no idea what to say about that.
	No idea.
	The manifestations of whatever it is on the other side are nearly endless.
	You've heard how many tonight.
	How can you not wonder?
	As our scientists wonder about the 100 million planets that they say have inhabited intelligent life, how can you not wonder about the kind of stories you're hearing this morning?
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	First-time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Hello.
	Finally, I got through.
	It's the seventh time.
	Well, I'm glad you made it.
	Where are you?
	Oh, I'm living in Reno, Nevada.
	Ah, K-O-H.
	I'm, uh, looking at my black cat right now.
	I have two of them.
	Yes, and my cat's name is Shadow.
	I've had him for two years.
	You're kidding.
	No, when I heard you had a Shadow, too, I said, oh, all right.
	I do, and Shadow was so named because of Ghost.
	Oh, I know.
	I know the whole story.
	I listen to you every night.
	I have for four years, every night.
	Well, I'm glad to hear that.
	So is KOH, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	Now, I've got to tell you my quick, short story.
	I have a lot of stories.
	I lived in a house that was like the Amityville Horror.
	Oh, you did?
	Yes.
	But that's a long story, but I've got a short one.
	When I was in high school, late 50s, I had an old 49 Ford, and I was driving down one of the Reno streets with my girlfriend, and we were talking, but now we're quiet, and this beautiful classical music came on.
	And it was very loud. It was too loud.
	And I looked at her and said, could you turn down the radio?
	And she said, yeah, that's loud.
	And she reached over and said, you don't have a radio.
	And I said, oh, right.
	And we never discussed it.
	That reminds me of that fireplace story.
	Yeah.
	That type of thing.
	It's kind of like that, isn't it?
	It's energy from someplace else.
	It's a projection, or it's a time slip, or who knows what it is.
	Right.
	But it's something.
	And Art, I wrote you a note, must have been a year ago, when you first started fooling around with the Ouija board.
	And I wrote to you at your home and told you, please don't fool with the Ouija board.
	And I don't think you remember, do you get so many letters and faxes?
	I'll tell you, this Ouija board thing is something I will listen to stories, but I really won't talk about it.
	Yeah, but about six months ago, you said Halloween, you would discuss it.
	Well, I did.
	That must be really something.
	I would love to hear the story, because I've got my own.
	Well, if you want to briefly tell us yours, go ahead.
	Oh, I wrote you a letter on it.
	Well, yeah, I know, but now you're on the radio.
	I was in Hawaii, and my husband, Was watching my friend and I play the Ouija board.
	And he decided to blindfold us.
	Oh, the interesting move.
	Yeah, okay.
	You know, because we were working it.
	We were really working it.
	I understand.
	And we're blindfolded.
	And suddenly the little clochette, that's what you call the little triangle thing you put your fingers on, flew out.
	And I pull the blindfold out and I said, what did you do, Bruce?
	You know, knock the thing?
	He said, no, I held the crucifix over it.
	Do you remember that story now?
	I do, yes.
	It's so serious.
	It's very serious.
	People don't understand, and they think, oh gee, let's have some fun.
	Let's play with a Ouija board.
	I used to feel the same way.
	I know, because I listen to your show.
	Like I say every night, I was really concerned about you.
	That's why I wrote you the note.
	I was really concerned.
	Well, with good reason.
	Yes, because I knew.
	But now you know, so... You're correct.
	Now I know.
	Thank you.
	Okay, Art.
	Right.
	Take care.
	There are a few things that I won't talk about.
	That really is one of them.
	And I'm giving you good advice here when I tell you don't play with Ouija boards.
	They're not toys.
	You know, I don't even know if they're sold anymore.
	I would imagine that That occasionally you could find one somewhere.
	But if I were you, I wouldn't even go to look.
	I wouldn't even... I wouldn't even think about it if I were you.
	You're listening to a collection of real... Oh, you can hear the voices.
	Real stories of the supernatural.
	Ghost stories.
	Stories of other dimensions.
	Other realities.
	Other times.
	I'm not really sure what it is.
	I'm just sure that it is.
	We'll be right back.
	Welcome to the final episode of The Final Season.
	We're back with a new episode.
	And we're back with a new episode.
	That's 702-727-1295.
	First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
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	Now, here again, Art Bell.
	I can sure tell you how to send good spirits.
	First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
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	Now, here again, Art Bell.
	I can sure tell you how to send good spirits.
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	Write it down for heaven's sakes.
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	East of the Rockies, you're on Ghost to Ghost AM.
	Good morning, Semper Paratus.
	How are you doing?
	Where are you calling from?
	Jacksonville, Florida.
	All right.
	Good to have you.
	It's great to be here.
	I've been enjoying your ghost stories, and it's one of the few times I've been able to tune you in here and everything.
	What station are you managing to get us on?
	WOKV.
	WOKV.
	All right.
	Just like I said, I've been enjoying your ghost stories and everything, and then after hearing about that great icebreaker you were on, I was an ASM stationed in the Gulf of Mexico out of Houston.
	Yes, sir.
	And we've had a five, I don't know whether to give you the Coast Guard's official version or our official version of some of the stuff we had seen.
	You tell me what you know.
	Okay, this was 1980, 1983, right there.
	We had several experiences of seeing what we termed as ghost ships.
	It would never show up on the radar, but we would hear it from small boats, 41-footers and stuff, seeing different glowing three-masted type schooner type ships.
	I guess what you would maybe call an old pirate type ship.
	Sure.
	Maybe the continental navy type stuff or whatever.
	Sure.
	And then it would be gone.
	And generally this would happen during the time of a harvest moon.
	There must be energy connected to things and events and that's all I can figure.
	Ships that come back.
	Ships that linger.
	Maybe ships that went down.
	Now I'm going to ask you the opposite.
	What did the Coast Guard say about this?
	I mean, if you guys would see it and file a report.
	Well, I was sent for psychological evaluation two different times.
	Let's see, the first time I was sent to NASA Bay there.
	Got to talk with some of the Air Force's people and some of the government's people and they tell us, oh, well, you know, what you've seen was an electrical phenomenon that was caused by, you know, different types of gravity and all, you know, just a bunch of junk.
	Second time was told it was some sort of fluorescent stuff caused by the ocean.
	But, um, personally, I mean, believe me, I've jumped out of too many helicopters and hit that water and some cold stuff and some warm stuff, and that there was a cold that you would never forget.
	You know, it was just that real.
	I hear you, sir, and I believe you.
	Very unbelievable, but very believable also.
	I appreciate your call.
	Thank you.
	Jacksonville, Florida.
	I do.
	I hear you and I believe you.
	And you should believe people like that, too, because these things do happen.
	It's part of our world.
	Unless you turn it off.
	And I guess you can turn it off.
	And if you do, in all likelihood, these things will not occur to you, or around you, or you will not be aware of them, and you may laugh at them.
	And if that's your way of handling it, I don't fault you for that.
	That's fine.
	West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
	Good morning.
	Where are you calling from, please?
	Fairbanks, Alaska.
	Listening to KFAR.
	Way up in Fairbanks, Alaska.
	Yeah, we're having a heat wave up here.
	Um, really?
	Yeah.
	Shouldn't it be getting cold up there now?
	Well, we've only got maybe 2 inches, 3 inches of snow.
	About 36 degrees.
	Real heat wave.
	Yeah.
	I just wanted to mention, I don't think anybody's told you, but one of your favorite singers is going to be here this Friday.
	Who?
	Maria Moldauer is going to be in Fairbanks.
	Fairbanks, Alaska.
	Oh, I hope everybody in Fairbanks says hi.
	Art said hi to Maria.
	I wish I could go see her, but I work nights.
	I just don't work tonight.
	Well, I'm sure that just about everybody who'd be going is listening.
	So everybody, please tell her Art said hi.
	Yeah.
	Quickly, I got a couple of real short things and then I got a story.
	All right.
	I think God has sent a sign.
	It's that scream that you are playing that is a Sasquatch.
	In Australia, they call the Sasquatch a Yowie.
	And here in Alaska, they don't call it a Sasquatch, but they call it Hairy Man.
	They call it what?
	Hairy Man.
	Hairy Man.
	Well, okay.
	Hairy Man.
	And they've got a good article in the Alaska Magazine.
	That's descriptive.
	Which I should put one in an envelope and send it to you.
	I would very much enjoy that.
	I think you would.
	Anyway, the story is about a truck, a semi, that had been in a wreck and killed the driver.
	But there was no trailer attached to it.
	And the truck was repaired and put on a lot, and it was sold.
	Well, every time it was sold, the person that bought it would bring it back and said they couldn't drive it.
	Something was weird with the truck.
	They kept bringing it back every time.
	Finally, one lady bought it.
	She wanted to get into trucking and she dealt with it.
	She just had to prove to her family and everyone around her that she could survive in the trucking industry.
	I may miss some of this because I read this in a little trucking magazine.
	I think it happened in Kentucky and every time she went by she would get a cold feeling over her shoulder every time she went through this one area.
	It was like the truck was beckoning her to go through here or something and as it turned The guy that got killed in that truck had left his trailer somewhere but it was never found.
	It was never traced.
	They could never find it.
	But he had parked it next to a cliff and somehow the cliff gave way and it buried the trailer.
	And every time she went by this area she got a cold feeling in that truck.
	And finally the rains or something washed that truck and it showed it.
	And she somehow got hooked up to that truck, and she took that truck to its final destination, and ever since then, that cold feeling in that truck disappeared.
	Wow.
	Now, is that a story?
	That's a story.
	But I was sitting in a semi.
	I don't remember where.
	A truck stopped breeding this, and I just got cold shivers all over me when I read this.
	I can imagine.
	And I couldn't wait to get through.
	Well, I'm glad you made it through, sir.
	Thank you, and again, That's weird, it's like... Do you think it was the spirit of the person who originally had that truck?
	Or are machines and things energy in the sense that people have energy, or maybe in a different but similar sense?
	I don't know.
	So many questions, so few answers, huh?
	So many questions.
	On our first time caller line, you're on the air.
	Oh, Mr. Bell?
	Hi.
	Oh, I can't believe I got through to you.
	You made it.
	Where are you?
	Uh, I'm the unknown caller, but I'm west of the Rockies.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hey, um, I'm listening to your ghost show, and I listened to you last year, and I thought it was great.
	That's why I'm staying up tonight listening to it.
	Yes, sir?
	I'm an atheist like Mark.
	Yes.
	There are a lot of things I don't believe and I listen to these ghost stories and I
	throw them away.
	But there is something that happened to me.
	Like when I was 20 years old I had a roommate and she was a single mother.
	We lived in a two bedroom apartment, totally platonic and everything like that.
	One night in the middle of the night she comes blasting into my room crying and screaming
	that she saw her father, her dead father, standing over her sister's casket.
	Her sister was just 18 years old and her sister wasn't dead.
	She said her father was telling her, your sister is going to be hurt.
	She's not going to die, but it's going to be close.
	So I'm going, well, anyway, I calm her down and get her back into bed.
	We got a phone call from her mother saying that her sister was seriously injured in a car wreck.
	Go to the hospital and everything and see her.
	She's like in ICU, barely hanging on by a thread.
	I never gave much thought to it.
	Okay, her sister pulled through and stuff, but it's always bugged me.
	Like, the day before the accident happened, my roommate came in screaming and crying that she saw her deceased father over her sister's casket, just right there in her bedroom.
	So it bugs you?
	Yeah.
	Then you're not an atheist.
	Well... You're an agnostic.
	No, an agnostic is just a gutless atheist, I've always thought.
	I'm listening to your show again, and this is bringing up stuff that there's nothing you don't know.
	Well, I don't know.
	Yeah, that's the whole point.
	I mean, how can you listen to this?
	You know, these are serious stories.
	As you know, I treat it seriously, and so my callers do.
	And how can you listen to this and not become a gutless atheist?
	Well, yeah, exactly right.
	I don't believe everyone who calls your show is a liar.
	They're not.
	These things are stuff that happen.
	These things do happen.
	Yeah.
	I appreciate your call, sir.
	I thank you for the call.
	I mean, how can you be, how can you listen?
	And then how can you say there is nothing?
	When we die, we just simply pass.
	Into blackness.
	Into nothingness.
	That this life all goes for naught.
	That the energy that is our being beyond our physical bodies is not.
	Does not exist?
	I don't think so.
	No, I'm sorry, sir.
	You sound more like the gutless atheist you described.
	Or, put more digestibly, an agnostic.
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	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	This is Judy, and I'm in Oregon.
	And I wanted to tell you that we live in a haunted house.
	Oh, now you do?
	Yes, we do.
	We have for about eight years.
	Would you turn your radio off for us, please?
	Yes.
	Matt, turn the radio off.
	Yes, Matt.
	Extinguish it.
	I'm sorry.
	That's quite alright.
	Alright, so in what form of manifestation do you get?
	Well, when we bought it, it's actually an antique store, and we live upstairs.
	And when we bought it, I moved in before my husband did to get things straightened out.
	And the first day I was there I went and was cleaning and everything and it's on the second floor and I went out the back door onto a porch area and was shaking out some rugs and all of a sudden the door slammed behind me and it's a very large door over about 8,000 square feet so I'm up there all by myself.
	It's getting dark and I couldn't get back in.
	Oh boy.
	And it faces the river so I don't have too many neighbors.
	Finally I did notice somebody next door about 20 minutes later walking around and I'm yelling and screaming to him to come help me get out.
	Sure.
	Back inside.
	So he did come around and jumped the fence and I had left the door open downstairs.
	Found his way upstairs and lo and behold he says, how did you get out there?
	And I says, well I went out through the door.
	I have a deadbolt on that door, and he had to open the deadbolt to get me in.
	That was the first of many, many experiences.
	Well, I've always wanted to ask somebody this, so I'm going to ask you.
	Why, pray tell, are you still there?
	Well, they're not anything but pranksters.
	I don't, I'm not afraid of them.
	So it's more of a sort of a pulling tricks on you kind of deal?
	Yes, yes, because another incident was downstairs we have things like you know the Jim Beam decanter bottles?
	Oh yes.
	We sell those as collectibles and we went down and it's on a cement floor and one morning we went down and there was six of them in a circle on the floor about four feet from the shelf.
	So, things like that happen all the time, and people are there when they happen to.
	I wonder, in the paranormal world, would I circle with booze bottles?
	I don't know, but they're young people, and I'm sure they don't have ID cards.
	Thanks for the call.
	Thank you, Art.
	You take care.
	Bye-bye.
	And I'm sure they don't have ID.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air on Ghost to Ghost AMI.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Angela.
	I'm in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
	Hello, Angela.
	How's Cheyenne?
	Cold.
	Cold.
	Yeah, I hear it's starting to get cold up there.
	It is.
	There was a guy that called earlier, and he mentioned something about F.E.
	Warren.
	Yes.
	I wanted to say it is haunted.
	I've heard several stories from out there.
	About the airbase?
	It's here in Cheyenne, and it is haunted.
	Well, any place where many deaths have occurred, Um, particularly a combative kind of death is a place where spirits linger.
	Yeah.
	I just wanted to plug that real quick and then I had a story that I wanted to tell you.
	Okay, real quick.
	Um, I guess about six months ago, my little brother came over to my house and he was telling me that a friend of his, she was a young lady, newlywed, Had two really, really young children.
	Had just found out she had cancer.
	And she's going to be passing away soon.
	The doctor didn't give her more than about two weeks.
	Alright, I'll tell you what.
	That's a good cliffhanger.
	We're not going to be able to finish, so I'm going to put you on hold.
	Okay.
	And let you hold.
	You won't hear anything.
	Don't let it worry you.
	And we'll get back to you after the break, alright?
	Okay.
	Alright, stay right there.
	In Cheyenne, where it's beginning to get cold.
	Would that be cold as in universal?
	Or would that be cold as in cold spots?
	we'll be right back on
	we continue with your calls to the kingdom of god and Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
	Now here again is Art.
	Hey there.
	It's Halloween.
	Have I freaked you out yet?
	Have they?
	Stay tuned.
	From the high desert, where the moon hangs by about half.
	It's kind of eerie out there right now.
	Hey, man, that's right.
	Get a shoe thrown at me from a needle man.
	Get my dinner from a garbage can.
	From the high desert, where the moon hangs by about half.
	It's kind of eerie out there right now.
	This is Coast to Coast.
	Now, Ghost to Ghost.
	Yeah.
	And now back to our ghostly young lady.
	And, um, you're back on the air again.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Okay, um, so my brother was really devastated about, um, this young lady when he found out that she was passing away.
	Alright, get into that telephone and talk up now.
	Okay.
	Um, anyway, is that better?
	That's a little better.
	You've got to stay into it and talk.
	Project!
	Okay.
	My brother was friends with this lady, but I didn't know her.
	And, uh, my heart really went out to her, though, thinking that she was going to pass away and leave those two young children and, uh, her husband behind.
	And I kept thinking about her, and I just, I couldn't get her out of my mind.
	Like, day and night for, let's say, four or five days.
	And I was standing in my bathroom, and, uh, I felt something really strange, like almost a finger or something going across the top of my head.
	And I put my hand up there, and there was some kind of like a sticky goo on the top of my head.
	You'd been slimed.
	That my husband said too.
	He's got a good sense of humor.
	I don't know if it had anything to do with her, but it was just really weird.
	Well, it might have.
	But it's a good slime story, and I thank you for bringing it to us.
	We get at least one every Halloween.
	There is something about ghosts, or entities, or whatever you want to call them, that many times involves a kind of strange slime.
	So when they did Ghostbusters, they kind of did a play on that.
	There's nothing to play with.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	How are you?
	I'm okay.
	I don't have an actual story, but I actually wanted to answer kind of a question you asked earlier about Ouija boards, like whether that one could get them.
	And you might find this pretty scary, but apparently it's marketed by Parker Brothers.
	Actually, a couple days ago, I just saw a commercial about a bunch of kids playing Ouija board.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, that's fine.
	I guess you can get them if you want to get them.
	Go ahead.
	My advice is don't do it.
	You don't have to tell me.
	Actually, I kind of think it's a stupid thing that they're doing.
	I'm an occultist myself, so I've studied this field.
	Look, it's just a board.
	If Parker Brothers wants to sell it, that's fine.
	It's like sitting down.
	It doesn't matter whether, in my opinion, whether it's a Ouija board or some other instrument that you're inviting, you're concentrating on, and you're consciously inviting an entity to you.
	You know not what you do.
	It's not like Monopoly.
	It's not like playing Monopoly, where you're worried about getting a hotel to wipe the other guy out.
	You're sitting down to consciously invite an entity to direct you.
	It is not a good idea.
	Whether it's a Ouija board, or whether it's a Monopoly board, or anything else, if the intent is to invite something in, you'd be damn sure you think hard about it before you invite something in you don't want to keep you company.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Yeah, I want to speak to Bart.
	Bart?
	Uh, this is, uh, this is Bart.
	Bart Susan.
	Um, turn your radio off, please.
	Yes, I just did.
	Okay, go right ahead.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi.
	Yeah, I just, um, ah, so weird.
	I just got, um, it's not really a ghost story.
	It's about my brother who died.
	And, um, he died, like, about five years ago.
	And, um, when he was younger, he had a car wreck.
	And, um, I guess you'd call it a near-death experience.
	He was in the hospital for a long time.
	Yes.
	I'm kind of nervous.
	I'm sorry.
	I can tell.
	That's all right.
	I can feel his presence now.
	When he was younger he had a near-death experience.
	I think since he lived, I always thought it was special, but he always said it's not special.
	He thought everybody had the power.
	Well, why did you think he was special?
	He was always interested in the Kung Fu and the things like martial arts and the power of the martial arts contribute to extra strength.
	Well, I don't know about that, but it does, thank you, contribute to a concentration in the martial arts.
	focus you and whenever you focus you can run into something you might not expect.
	Here's an interesting fact that just showed up.
	Art, I just got off work and it took me a while to settle down and a couple of stiff drinks so I can tell this to you.
	I've been home for about an hour now and this is just exactly what happened.
	Let me start out.
	I work at a hospital emergency room.
	Consider myself a level-headed guy.
	I do Did not believe in ghosts, that is.
	Tonight I was riding my bicycle home from work.
	In point of fact, I was listening to you.
	Reminiscing that it had been about a year since I'd been riding home at night, alone.
	It's been almost one year to the hour since my old riding buddy was killed while riding alone on this same street last year.
	We generally had rode together All the time on this particular night, I'd called in ill, stayed home.
	My buddy, Phil, was run over by a drunk driver, not found for an hour or more, and died en route to the hospital.
	His bloodstains still mark the curb where his head struck, snapping his lower neck.
	Tonight, while riding home, I became aware of a feeling Of having something like the sound of a car tire behind me, and yet there were no cars on the street.
	I kept hearing the sound, kept looking around, the sound got so loud, I could hear through the radio.
	In other words, I was listening to the radio.
	I finally took off the headphones, stopped, and looked down the street.
	I saw Phil standing On his back, next to me.
	As fast as light, I got on my bike and sped home.
	Phil stayed with me until I reached the crossroads where he died.
	I swear, I saw him.
	Big as life.
	I can't tell you if I was having a 60's flashback or not.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello there.
	Hello.
	Yes, sir.
	All right.
	Yes.
	I wanted to give you a little story about my experience with the Ouija board.
	All right.
	Where are you?
	This is Dan from Fairbanks.
	Yes, Dan.
	I was about 18, just graduated from high school, and this girl and I were playing with the Ouija board one night, and didn't think much of it, and I went home and woke up the next morning And I had a big antique Chinese mirror that sat on my dresser.
	It was, oh, probably three foot by four foot.
	Probably weighed about 60 or 70 pounds.
	I woke up, this mirror was sitting right at the foot of my bed on the floor, face down.
	I didn't think much of it, except that I had a bunch of model cars that I had collected and built.
	Models of cologne and stuff sitting on top of my dresser.
	And nothing had been disturbed, which meant that for this mirror to get where it was, it would have had to been lifted up off of the dresser, over everything that was on the dresser, moved about two feet from the dresser, turned at a 90 degree angle, and laid face down on the floor.
	Oh, and that next night, we played with the Ouija board again, went home, went to bed early in the morning, about 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning, I hear this big, loud crash.
	I wake up, the mirror's in the same position on the floor, in the same exact spot, with the mirror broken to a hundred or so little pieces, and everything on the dresser was laying all over the floor.
	Needless to say, that was the last time I ever touched a Ouija board.
	Good for you.
	Thank you very much.
	Again, you invite things in when you do that, and you don't know what you're inviting in.
	It's like opening a door To a world where things exist good and bad.
	Do you invite strangers into your home?
	Do you call on the street when somebody passes and invite them into your home, not knowing them?
	No?
	Then why would you want to do it with a Ouija board?
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	1-800-GOLD, as in that that glitters, and KRC as in Ken Roberts Company.
	Again, 1-800-GOLD-KRC.
	How many of you remember a time when you could take a penny to the corner grocery store and there you could buy a nice piece of candy or even a postcard?
	Well, of course, Today, the convenience stores have a bowl of pennies on the counter with a sign that usually says, take one if you need one.
	Can the dollar be far behind?
	You know, you really can't buy anything for a penny anymore.
	In fact, a dollar will only buy what a dime would a few years ago.
	The only form of money that still buys what it did once before is gold.
	Over a hundred years ago, an ounce of gold was worth $20.
	For that, you could buy a very nice new suit.
	Today, that same ounce of gold is worth nearly $400, and guess what?
	You can still buy a really nice suit.
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	All right, back to the lines we go.
	Now, I want to say again, if you would like a copy of this show, this particular program, we do offer copies of this.
	It is a yearly event called Ghost to Ghost AM.
	And the way to get a copy of it is to call 24 hours a day 1-800-917-4278.
	That's 1-800-917-4278.
	24 hours a day.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Robert from New Orleans.
	That's 1-800-917-4278. 24 hours a day.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air. Hi.
	Hi Art, this is Robert from New Orleans.
	Hello Robert.
	First let me say I got your book yesterday.
	Oh, you did?
	I am very, very happy.
	Is that, tell everybody, I've really not been soliciting comment yet, but is that one quality book or what?
	Oh, yes sir, it is.
	It's much better than I thought it would be.
	Well, there you are.
	I'm glad to hear it.
	We'll do a day later this week and solicit comment.
	Anyway, it is ghost to ghost night.
	Okay, in New Orleans, I guess you know we bury people above ground here.
	I've heard.
	My grandmother's buried in one of these old cemeteries.
	Yes, sir.
	We go and we clean them out every so often, you know, clean up around them and weed them.
	And me and my younger son will go walking and looking for the dates on each one of these tombs.
	As we're going through one day, we notice that a couple of them have been broken into.
	So we start looking into them and we're seeing that, you know, the bodies have been disturbed, the caskets are open or broken or chipped out in corners.
	Oh, boy.
	As we go to one of the oldest ones, which is about a block down from my grandmother, there was an eight-year-old girl who died during the time that there was a bad scarlet fever going around in New Orleans where thousands of people had died.
	Yes, sir.
	As I climb up to look in there, I notice there are two bodies in there, but these are recent bodies, like a day or two.
	You mean like the people who had been desecrated?
	Yes, that's exactly who they were.
	There was two of them, two young men.
	One face down and one face up.
	The one face up had an expression on his face like you've never seen in your life.
	I ran and told the keepers on the ground and they called the police and the police came and everything.
	Weeks later I had called to ask what had happened to the guys.
	As far as I can tell, both guys had died of heart attacks.
	The one who I saw, I'm sure, died of fright.
	And they said the coffin the little girl had been in was, of course, opened.
	It was a metal coffin at the time.
	And they said the guests were robbing them at the time and something happened that scared them to death.
	Oh my God, what a story!
	That's a true story?
	Oh yes, it's very true.
	My son talks about it all the time and every Halloween it's the first thing we start telling the rest of the family about.
	Oh, thank you for sharing that with us.
	No, I really do mean that.
	Thank you.
	But that is a scary story.
	It bothers me once in a while.
	We can only imagine what they saw.
	I know what they saw.
	That little girl took her revenge when they tried to break into her car.
	Thank you for the call.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Take care.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Oh, hi Art.
	Hello there.
	I'm Mary from Bakersfield.
	Hi Mary, how you doing?
	Oh, pretty good, but that one did scare me.
	Oh boy.
	Oh boy.
	I can just imagine that.
	If mine scared me, that one scared me more.
	Now, this happened when I was about 18, 19.
	It was about 3.30 in the morning, I guess, and it was winter time.
	Kind of like about now.
	Well, no, it's not cold up here yet.
	No, I meant the time.
	Oh, yes.
	And I was asleep in bed and I woke up and I was sleeping on the left side.
	And all of a sudden I woke up and I turned over to my right side and I was facing the door of the bedroom.
	And being cold, I had the habit of throwing the covers over my head.
	Well, I did that this time.
	And all of a sudden, about maybe two or three minutes passed.
	And I started getting scared.
	Very, very frightened.
	And I tried to come out from under the covers.
	And I couldn't pull them off.
	And I mean, I clawed at them and just pulled and I couldn't.
	Oh, I wouldn't like that.
	And all of a sudden... Covers are supposed to protect you.
	Well, these didn't.
	Since then, I've never slept with the covers on my head ever since then.
	But all of a sudden, there was a scream in my ear, just a shrill scream, that my head just, you know how you feel when you're, you've been screamed in your ear when you were small before, you know, kids?
	Sure.
	And my head just, I mean, it just vibrated the way that scream.
	And I tried to call my father.
	And I'd open my mouth and nothing would come out and I'd just be open and gasping trying to call.
	And finally I managed to say, Daddy, just barely got it out.
	Yes.
	And when I said that, then the covers came off.
	I was still trying to take them off and they came off all of a sudden.
	And well, like I said, ever since then, I just do not.
	Sleep with the covers over my head, not a sheet.
	My dear lady, I've heard a lot of, I jumped under the covers story.
	Stories, but I have never, never, never heard I went under the covers and then tried to get out and the covers wouldn't come off.
	I know, they just would not come off.
	And like I said, I still do not sleep with my head under the covers anymore.
	I can't say I blame you, but it's like, gee, there's nowhere to hide.
	well hide under the bed. There's no place. Get underneath the bed or some place.
	Well look I appreciate your story.
	It is unlike any I have ever heard, and I'm afraid it's going to have to be the topper for the For the day, I'm afraid.
	Well, I'll be.
	You know, the night just kind of flew by, as it were.
	Well, I've been trying for quite a few years to get in.
	This is the first time I managed.
	You've been trying for years?
	Well, about four or five years.
	I kind of wish you wouldn't say that.
	It discourages people.
	Oh.
	It shouldn't because I finally got through.
	We'll see.
	There you are.
	All right.
	Goodbye.
	All right.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	There's a tradition here.
	Oh.
	With our last caller.
	Oh.
	You get to say, Good night, America.
	Oh, good.
	Good night, America.
	Take care.
	Well, it has been fun and a little scary, but you tend to get what you ask for, and I wanted scary stories, and y'all did not disappoint me.
	That last one from New Orleans kind of got to me, though.
	At any rate, again, I want to remind you to get a copy and archive of this program Stripped of the commercials, with only the frightening content remaining.
	You can call 1-800-917-4278.
	Let me give you that number one more time.
	1-800-917-4278.
	Thank you all who joined us during the night.
	And all I guess I can say is, From the high deserts.

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