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March 26, 1995 - Art Bell

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Dreamland with Art Bell - Predictions and Prophecy - Dr. Louis Turi

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dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		My brother says there are people working here because Louis it's November.
		Grapes have been picked up.
		It's nobody is not in there.
		But I said, Joe, I'm seeing some lights over there that I didn't see never before.
		He says, Don't worry about it.
		See, my brother don't believe in God, devil, UFOs, he doesn't believe in anything.
unidentified		And I'm so happy, so happy that it happened with him.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That was incredible.
		So anyway, we were driving and those lights will keep coming to the point where it happened once in a million, where you happened to have that thing on top of your car.
		Keep in mind, I did not know what it was.
		The only thing I could see was bright lights all over.
		The entire area was light up.
		So the car died.
		First of all, my brother and I, we were both nose against the windshield looking up at this incredible light coming down.
		What is this?
		And I've seen the side of my brother, which I never see before, though.
		He was a bit scared.
		You know, he wants to be the tough guy, you know, discotheque bars and everything else.
		So anyway, I managed to get away from his grip because he didn't want me to get out of the car.
unidentified		I managed to go out and my gosh, incredible.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't see again, nothing, just those lights coming down.
		I said, what is this?
		It was pretty hot.
		And then for some magical reason, these things or these people, these intelligents obviously knew that they were hurting my eyes because it was pretty hot and very bright indeed.
		They turned the lights under it off.
		And that very precise time, it didn't take me too long to see the counter of the flying saucer.
		I saw that red shape around it.
		And I was running around the car, banging the front of the car, screaming, asking my brother to get out.
unidentified		You know, I says, look, Joe, look, a flying saucer.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I was face out with the ultimate reality of ET's UFOs.
		At least I had this spaceship less than 30 feet above my head.
		It was making no noise.
		There were no air movement, nothing.
		I was just standing there screaming.
		And then under it, it had different lights, different colors, huge, huge lights.
		That flying sources stayed there for at least two minutes, if not more.
unidentified		Doctor, how big was it?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		You know, I couldn't give you a size.
		The only thing I know was pretty big.
		I'd say about St. Cantos or Santa Maitre.
		I don't know how to say that in English, but it's pretty big.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Poira, you know, listening to you, perhaps with your French accent, it reminds me so of close encounters of the third kind.
		And do you remember the craft in close encounters?
		It was very much as you have described with the lights.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		It was basically, I'd say the road was about at that specific place, the road was about 30 feet long, and the fire saws of both sides of the road could have gone easy 40 or 50 feet each side of the road.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		It was huge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's huge, Orange.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Then they turned the lights on again.
		My brothers taken the car, didn't come out.
		They turned the light on again, and as they came, they took half.
		The only thing again that was different is when we arrived at the disco tech, when we usually arrive at a disco tech, we have a few groupies here, you know.
		We have the staff there cleaning, the barman, you know, getting everything organized, about to start.
		They were full life.
		The discotec was full.
		The discotec was packed.
		And my brother had a long face.
		It's incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what had he said to you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After the incident, I'm sure that even in the car, he had been looking out at least.
unidentified		Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		You know what he says?
		He says, this didn't happen.
		Don't say nothing to nobody.
		And the next day, my mother called me asking me if my brother was alright.
		So officially, he already talked to my mother the next day.
		It's incredible.
		And now, trust me, it's been pretty silent for a few years, but now finally, the rest of the family believes me now finally because he's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will he talk about it now?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I would think so, yes.
		He wouldn't be as scared or as, you know, he grew up.
		I mean, he grew.
		It's such an incredible experience.
		This is a private experience.
		No matter how much you can say, how much you want to express the truth to people, it's still a very personal experience.
		And sometimes it drives me mad.
		I mean, how, how?
		This is solid.
		This is not a light.
		This is not a walking.
		This is not a spirit.
unidentified		This is a flying saucer 30 feet above my head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, stand by.
		We'll be right back to you.
		My guest is Dr. Lewis Turi.
		And I certainly understand what he means about the personalization of the experience.
		The one craft that I saw, I shall never, ever forget.
		And while I can tell the story in some detail, and will again one of these days, I can only tell you that until you have seen it yourself, until you have seen something like that yourself, you can never understand how difficult it is to talk about it, to relate the emotion of the experience.
		But he did a pretty good job, didn't he?
		We'll be right back.
		And it's here before the top of the hour.
		Dr. Turi, what psychic powers do you have?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I actually signed certified mail to the Salesman Institute and giving exact date for earthquakes, tornado, and so forth.
		And as a matter of fact, the earthquake that just happened, I signed you Earth tribulation reports and you have this date today.
		I'm expecting another one tomorrow, by the way.
		But later on, with your permission, I'd like to ask your listeners to make some notes because I'm going to give four dates for the next three months.
		The next three months, April, May, and June.
		I'm going to give four dates for all the people to realize the value of what these ET's contacts have done to my psyche.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you perceive these predictions?
		How do you see these predictions?
		How do they come to you?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, first of all, when I punch my computers, I'm looking at the landmine of the planet.
		It's the same energy that NASA used to send the shuttle.
		But instead of using the rational mind, I can listen to them talk to each other, and they are telling me when a specific day there will be a very negative energy coming down from the universe.
		This would translate into an earthquake or anything else for that matter.
		I'd like to mention to you though, on the 5th of January, I was in Channel 10 in Phoenix, I was on Channel 3 in Tucson, and I was on, I cannot say the name of this radio station, but I sent you the tape.
		And I gave the exact date of January 16, and I asked everybody, please make notes of January 16th.
		So it's unarguable.
		It's there.
		Of course, they call me back to be on the show again.
		And of course, also the Salesman Institute added those dates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was the date of January 16th?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What happened?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That happened, the Kobe, Japan earthquake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The big earthquake.
		All right.
		If you would please hold on, Dr. Trury, we'll be right back to you.
		So get a pencil, get some paper, and we'll check out the dates and hold Dr. Trury to it.
		You're listening to Dreamland from the CBC Radio Network.
unidentified		Dreamland from the CBC Radio Network.
unidentified		This hour of Art Bell was recorded for rebroadcast at this time.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Please do not call.
unidentified		Please do not call.
		From the Kingdom of Nye, we continue with your calls on Dreamland with Art Bell.
		Call Art Now, toll-free, at 1-800-618-8255.
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		Now again.
		Here's Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now again, here I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My guest is Dr. Lewis Turi.
unidentified		He is an astrologer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He is a scientist.
		He is a man who makes predictions, and we're about to get to them.
		So hopefully you've got a piece of paper and a pencil handy.
		I would like to give you confirmation of something I said in the first hour regarding the earthquake or near Quito, Ecuador, which in fact collapsed, we understand, a stadium there.
		It was, we now know, a magnitude 5.3 near the coast of Ecuador, and that's confirmed by the USGS.
		I've got a fax here, and I want to thank the people that sent it in.
		It was 5.3 for those of you keeping track of the scallion predictions near Quito.
		In a moment, the Turi predictions.
		Right now, a word about something that I don't know how to tell you.
		Once you've had it, you won't be able to live without Turi.
unidentified		Doctor?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Hi, I'm here.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that you have some predictions for us, and I would ask you to go nice and slow so we can get them and tell us what it is you think is coming.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, first of all, I'd like to mention to you that we have thousands of people that receive our Earth tribulation report.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And those guys tonight are watching the date of the earthquake that I gave about three weeks ago, including March 20th.
		We had an earthquake in Tokyo.
		I gave the exact date.
		So giving earthquake prediction is great.
		But when you hit it on the date, this is where it really comes interesting as far as predictive astrology is concerned.
		So I'm going to ask again your people, your listeners, to make notes of those dates and please keep an eye because on those dates, the energy that comes down to us will be pretty nasty and will transform either into an earthquake, disturbing weather, and it could all the way hurt us for the next three months.
		But I'm going to give you the maximum energy coming down.
		And I want you to remember, if I give you, for example, April 2nd, the day before or the day after, the energy will be waning.
		But the 2nd is the day.
		Like tonight, the earthquake we had, the newsletter that I signed all over the place here, has the date tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So April...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're telling us that you hit the earthquake that was just reported.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you have a copy.
		I'll send it to you.
		You have a copy.
		I'll send it to you right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do, and I'll check it here.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's sent to the Earth Tribulation Report by New World Medium Institute.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		So you have those dates that were sent to you about two weeks ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, April 2nd is the first date.
unidentified		April 16th.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		April 23rd, April 28th.
		That's for April.
		The 2nd, the 16th, the 23rd, and the 28th.
		That's the maximum energy that we transform into a disaster.
		And they are pretty nasty what's coming up because there will be some very serious negative energy ahead of us.
		And I want to prepare people to avoid flying because there will be also a plane crash and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There will be a plane crash.
		Also, yes.
		On the same date.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, including oil spill.
		It's all ahead.
		I see it very clearly.
		That's why I'm not afraid to put my signature on my prediction.
		Are you going to realize the value of my work?
		As I said, thousands of people here in California and in Arizona have seen me on two TV and on the radio at the same time giving the exact date of the Kobe-Japan earthquake and the exact date for the second aftershock, including, I can't even remember, but it's all certified.
		Whoever does not believe me, I have the TV shows, I have the audio tape, my prediction of the Hurricane Andrew was certified, sent to George Bush, the Russian coup, name it, I can't even remember.
		It's even the OJ Simpson.
		Let me just show you, when I was in San Diego and I was actually predicting OJ Simpson.
		Listen to this, just a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we're going to get some audio.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		It's Mike Berger from San Diego, the radio station in San Diego calling, returning your phone call.
		And yes, we remember your prediction about a major catastrophe with a sports, a major sports figure.
		And that works out.
		Wow.
		Unbelievable.
		By the way, you wanted O.J. Simpson's birthday?
		Here it is, July 9th, 1947.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I got tons of this from my mailbox, from my telephone, from the newspaper write-up.
		So I'm going to show you and prove to you the value of what it means to be a good astrologer, not somebody which is mainly financially oriented, but somebody concerned in wanting to help people to save their life with nature, diversity, force.
		God has given me the gift, and I want to prove it to the people who are helping me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me ask you, how did you make the prediction about O.J. Simpson?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Jason, I also said, sad enough, if this person heard the show, probably call you or call me back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		understand that uh from what i just heard there you made a prediction regarding a disaster about a major sports figure right yes going through some dramatic time of his life and going through yes What I'm asking is, how did that come to you?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, gosh.
		I have a natural gift in entering the entering a domain that a lot of people, which are naturally made by the stars to rational, can enter.
		I understand the archetypal realm of consciousness.
		I understand the manifestation of God through the stars.
		understand the design of the creator and it comes down to me sometimes through feelings sometimes i They had a gift.
		I have one.
		And I want to show it, and I want to prove it to your listeners by making notes of these predictions of these days for the next three months.
		I mean, how can I go more into the future than three months ahead of us?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess I want to ask about the source.
		People will call and they will ask, Doctor, the source of your power.
		Is it good?
		Is it evil?
		Is it neutral?
		Is it God?
		Is it the devil?
		How is this coming to you?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		It's coming to me because my relationship with God and the universe.
		He has made people that have abilities in creating music, people that have ability in architectural design.
		In teaching, my gift is to be able to see past the physical manifestation.
		And you are now asking me how the sun can cross the window without clay breaking it, and how we can feel the warmth behind this window.
		This is past the rational thought arts.
		It's very deep.
		That's why I'm a doctor of metaphysics.
		I've studied, and I combine this with modern gifts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, I cannot make predictions.
		I don't do them.
		But I have said lately to my audience that the psychic hairs on the back of my neck are standing straight up.
		It feels like a very strange time is coming, is close.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's happening here?
		What's happening here, last 2,000 years the world was controlled by Neptune.
		Neptune is a planet which rules deception, illusion, it rules the dogma, it rules any form of religious fanaticism, it rules drugs and alcohol.
		Neptune is a very gloomy, doomy planet and it has affected the world for last 2,000 years.
		You probably heard of the new age of Aquarius.
		We are now entering a higher level.
		The planet which is in charge of this world is much more scientific oriented.
		It rules anything to do with high-tech, the future, the incredible, and the high science of astrology.
		This planet in charge of the next 2,000 years, which rules the sign of Aquarius, is called Uranus, the planet of the future.
		And it rules high-tech computers and he also rules Japan.
		That's why Japan is so good in producing computers.
		This planet is also the sudden release of energy and rules earthquakes.
		That's why Japan has a lot of earthquakes and more volcanoes than anywhere else in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Doctor, I had Gordon Michael Scallion on the program.
		I'm sure you know his work.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He made some startling and terrible predictions for California.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I completely disagree with you.
		I mean, with him.
		I don't know who wants to follow that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you would be disagreeing with him, not me.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he talked about soon, a nine-point earthquake for the Palm Springs, California area.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Now, as far as earthquakes are concerned, the data I'm giving you, you're going to experience earthquakes.
		Now, having an earthquake in California is like having an accident in Phoenix, Arizona City.
		You're talking about people that are sitting on a fault.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		So if you want to use common sense, and I'm sure you have plenty of that, because I have your stars in Ponto, me, I know you're critical and rational and down to Earth.
		If not, you wouldn't be where you are.
		What I'm trying to tell you here, when you're living on a fault, you can expect to be jumping up and down.
		Now, if you don't want any tremor around you, either you leave the area or you go on the moon.
		The moon is a dead planet.
		So the Earth moving and shaking now and then, it's a good sign that she is alive.
		It's a good sign.
		But trust me, the year 2000 will be coming by and there will be still people fishing on the coast of California.
		I'm telling you that I don't know how you react to this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm glad.
		I want the Californians to hear this.
		The news has not been good for them.
		So I'm glad to give them some good news.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		But see, you have to understand also, with the constant progress of technology and its financial potential in reaching the entire world, you know, for example, CNN, more and more source of broadcasting corporations are born every day.
		Now, to attract more Euro and financial support, obviously, they desperately need rating.
		And you understand that.
		Combined with all sorts of negativity, these people have, you know, they're spooning breath with taking negative news and program.
		Okay?
		And then all these people in California are forced to swallow the dirt, you know.
		And it's bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, fine.
		Let's pin you down a little bit.
		April 2nd, 16th, 23rd, 28th.
		What do you expect on those dates?
		You don't pin it down.
		It could be an earthquake, could be a bad storm.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I could in great detail to find out exactly what would come down.
		But I want people to understand what happens sometimes, those stars, you know, it's like a bunch of people together, okay?
		They thought you have 12 signs of the zodiacs.
		That's why obviously you have 12 months and 12 hours and 12 apostles and 12 scene and 12 jury.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So 12 is a pretty old mid- There was a story about three weeks or a month ago from some scientists, I believe in Europe, who said, oh, gee, we were wrong.
		There are not 12 signs of the zodiac and the zodiac dates are wrong.
		There are 13.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		This is again, you know, something that people are trying to sell their books and their knowledge and so forth.
		The point is, when you look at your horoscope, 12 signs of the zodiac, and you realize you have 12 months, you don't have 13 months, you have 12 signs of the zodiac, 12 months and 12 hours.
		Your watch has the twelve energy, and this is the twelve energy that comes down the universe.
		Now, scientists say what they want to say.
		Remember, astrology is an art first, and you don't deal with the art with numbers and irrational thoughts.
		You use intuition and you use the metaphysical knowledge.
		Anything else belongs to astronomy, which is a more practical approach to the stars, which again, they will tell you how far a planet is, what's the density, what's the distance of the Earth.
		However, when an astronomer is looking at the stars, he does not know what the constellation of Sagittarius on the spiritual level means.
		So I believe that man has lost his cosmic consciousness since he begins to think like a scientist and put aside the deep values of God and his message through the stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, I want to understand how serious these dates are, how much energy there is.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we have been since the beginning of time, including California, suffering earthquakes.
		So those energy coming down will be no more and no less.
		We had that terrible earthquake in Japan, of course.
		But you have to remember also that we kept record of this earthquake less than 100 years.
		Millions of years have elapsed before then, and how many earthquakes haven't been reported.
		So the energy will not be worse than what it is.
		It has always been from a 3.5 to 8.2 maximum.
		It's not going to go higher than that.
		And those dates I'm giving you have the potential of being from a 4.5 to obviously a 6.5 earthquake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		4.5 to 6.5.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm giving you the energy, and the energy will come down to us and will manifest in tow.
		Either bad weather, earthquake, a tornado, this is the same energy.
		It's the magnetic field which is coming down, which combined with all the forces, including the weather, the geographical location of some states and so forth, do produce nature actions.
		And some of this energy is strong enough to reach to the bottom or the heart of the earth and affect the fault.
		Thus, they are producing earthquakes.
		But the energy is the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Doctor, hang loose one second.
		We'll be right back to you.
		Dr. Louis Turi is my guest.
		He'll be right back.
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		Dr. Turi.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so we have these dates now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dates we need to watch, April 2nd, 16th, 23rd, and 28th.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		We have May and June to do, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May and June to do as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, why don't you go ahead and give us May and June now?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Right now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so May 7th, 13th, 19th, 25th, and June 1st, 10th, 22nd, and 29th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		1st, 10th.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		1st, 10th, 22nd, and 29th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		22nd and 29th.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I want to show you what prediction is all about, you see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how serious in May and June is that?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		There'll be much worse in May, the end of May, and the beginning of June, there'll be much worse.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's where the maximum energy will be hitting us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which could produce earthquakes in May.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		There will be an earthquake on the date I give you that's guaranteed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of what magnitude in May?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Those earthquakes could go all the way up from, as I said, 4.5 to 6.5.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's serious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		Well, that's all right, very good.
		Yes, indeed, on the high end, it is serious.
unidentified		It is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, briefly, before the bottom of the hour up, we're going to start taking calls at the bottom of the hour up.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Shall I finish my UFO experience?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you please?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and so you're going to give those dates out when?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Shall I give them out again to the audience?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you would like, we've given them out already, but go ahead and give them out again.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yes, because they're probably going to be listening.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And then we can go right back to my UFO experience again and show you how I came.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we are on the air now.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, are we?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		That's an interesting situation here.
		Okay, that's to show you my honesty.
		Okay, so let's review those dates that I mentioned.
		You know, as I said, when people out there give you dates for earthquakes, you know, you can do that.
		You say, okay, it's going to be an earthquake next month in California.
		You ain't going to get wrong.
		But you want to give the date.
		That's a different story.
		That's where people should start to trust in your predictions and in your work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, fine.
		We've got it.
		April 2nd, 16th, 23rd, and 28th.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, May 7th, 13th, 19th, 25th.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And June the 1st, the 10th, 22nd, and 29th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Yes.
		Let me see.
		Yeah, to go back to my UFO experience, it's kind of important to mention that after my third experience, art, I was so disturbed that I thought that, you know, there is more in life just to record and singing.
		After this experience, I was literally out of it.
		So I sold everything I earned.
		I worked harder, and I, you know, I bought myself a plane ticket, and I ended up in the United States.
		I arrived here, no job, no ring card, and I arrived here, of course, no place to stay.
		This is how I started.
		So from there, I felt, couldn't resist, you know, that I felt something in me was pushing me to do that.
		So I start a little job and then I make my way up, and then I joined the Universalized Church in Sacramento, where I graduate, and I got my doctorate, metaphysics.
		And I actually painted my first apartment.
		But I painted an overloaded with symbols of astrology, UFOs.
		Every single walls and my door were painted with mystical symbols and UFOs.
		I could not help myself to do that.
		Then this is where I realized that I had something in prediction because I was thinking, okay, this is going to happen and this is going to happen.
		And it did happen.
		So I made the news on the Los Angeles Times in predicting a bunch of things, also in different newspapers in different cities.
		And then the city of Carlsbad in California, the city of Oceanside, San Diego, the city board of directors were impressed with my work and I am the first astrologer that was spaced by the city to make the horoscope of their city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of the whole city.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		In the United States.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		When you think of your country here being built by Puritans, which means kind of traditional, you know, in France we take astrology very seriously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, many people do here as well.
		Gee, too bad you didn't do a chart on Orange County.
		Doctors, stand by.
		We're breaking here at the bottom of the hour.
		We'll be right back to you.
		And shortly to phone calls.
		This is CBC.
unidentified		This is CBC.
		This hour of Art Bell was recorded for rebroadcast at this time.
		Please do not call.
		Thank you.
		From the Kingdom of Nye.
		You're here in Dreamland with Art Bell.
		To participate in the program, call toll-free, 1-800-618-8255.
		1-800-618-8255.
		First time callers, Area Code 702-727-1222.
		Or the wildcard line at 702-727-1295.
		This is the CBC Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It absolutely is.
		I want to remind you, if you're a first-time caller to the program, it's Area Code 702-727-1222.
		In addition, if you're east of the Rockies, east of the Rockies, it's 1-800-825-5033.
		1-800-825-5033.
		When it comes to UFOs, I would like to warn you of just one thing.
unidentified		We are not going to do individual psychic predictions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what we would like you to do is to keep your questions general, whether you're going to ask about predictions of earthquake, flood, political predictions.
		I understand he'll do those as well.
		We're going to hold it to a very sort of general thing.
		So it's my view that when we do individual astrological predictions, it pleases one person and bores just about everybody else.
		So we're not going to do that.
		We are not going to do that.
		And also, I want to thank Vern, listening to WKXY in Sarasota, Florida, also sending me the USGS information indicating there was just a 5.3 earthquake near the Ecuador coast.
		Now, just briefly, before we begin taking telephone calls, Dr. Turi, I would like to ask you about something we discuss frequently on this program, and it seems to me you'd be qualified to answer it.
		It is about the afterlife, Doctor.
		When we die, what happens to us?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, put it this way.
		Reincarnation is proven to us every single day.
		When you look at a worm in the water, which is living in his own world, and will metamorphose and transform into a butterfly flying straight into the sun, that tells you that there is afterlife.
		Right there, right on this physical manifestation, you can appreciate and understand that there is an afterlife.
		What's happening out there, you become a part of God, so to speak.
		You do not need the physical manifestation, so you create your own reality with your own thoughts, power.
		You are into the superconscious in time and space where matter do not mean anything anymore.
		actually are the creator of your own reality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do we...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are the creators of our own reality.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do we retain what we know as a consciousness?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		You do, and you improve it as you gain more senses as you Pass into the fourth dimension.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The fourth dimension, is it possible, doctor, to contact somebody who has passed on?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is possible, but if you happen to be born with a dragon's tail in Pisces, Scorpio, or Cancer, you are strongly advised not to do so because you carry with you a lot of residual witchcraft which could get your soul being possessed.
		So it is not a good idea unless you have the tools and natural protection as God has designed for your stars.
		That's why I recommend everybody to be very careful with psychics because they could not knowingly, obviously, subconsciously, they can reach that very sensitive area that we call the subconscious.
		And there they could manipulate your own creativity, the owner sub forces that create a man, so to speak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you could contact something that you would not want to contact.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		You could get possessed.
		Before we go further, I'd like to mention to you, Art, that I'm going to be able to prove to you also the value of my prediction right now.
		I signed you my book, which is published worldwide.
		It's called Star Guide.
		It has the head of Mostodomis in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, I have it here.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I want you to open to page 46 and look at March 25th.
		Look at tonight, 26th.
		And you will see that the earthquake is in my prediction tonight.
		So when you have a chance, just open up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have it here, as a matter of fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I will read over it as we take some calls.
unidentified		You're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		March 25th was indeed a date.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9 lines from the bottom.
		Uranus, if you want me, I can read it for you.
		Keep in mind that Uranus also rules earthquake and volcano.
unidentified		I'll read it.
unidentified		No, I'll read it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Keep in mind that Uranus also rules earthquakes and volcanoes.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		And indeed, he does.
		He had a March 25th prediction.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I also have the Kodi Japan earthquake.
		I'd like to mention to you that my publisher has already my 1996 prediction gone.
		So this was written a year and a half ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		This is solid.
		This is real.
		I am not motivated by financial reward.
		I'm concerned.
		I am actually gifted and I want to pass it on to people who want to trust me.
		And I thank you so much to give me the opportunity to save the integrity of Divine Astrology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Turi, it's people just like you who are looking for this program.
		So you're perfect.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
		Where are you calling from, please?
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		You're on the air.
		Where are you calling from?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you hear us?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you can hear us.
		Uh-oh.
		Well, let me try another one here.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Oh, I'm calling from Phoenix, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		You're next door.
		You're my neighbor, huh?
		What can I do for you, Mr. Hall?
unidentified		I'm from Phoenix.
		I'm a Brill.
		I sense, and I know what you mean, because I've been saying for a long time that there's been an earthquake in Arizona, because it needs it for the corruption, its own negligence, and as far as personal prejudice.
		I'm saying, be very honest, very truthful, just like you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Well, all right.
		What he's saying, yeah, Dr. Dury, is that Arizona is somehow corrupt, or Arizona deserves an earthquake.
		Is that the reason that earthquakes happen?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		No, no, absolutely not.
		The ultimate design of God or his manifestation is through the stars.
		Those stars out there are more than rocks hanging for the sake of beauty.
		There is a divine message.
		There is a divine power within each of the stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is not punishment.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		No, there is no such thing of punishment or the apocalypse like we used to believe in France or the 16th century, where everybody thought that God was punishing everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		No, this doesn't work at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Eric.
		This is Mulkey.
		I live in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		My question was I wondered if he thought the government knew about aliens or if aliens controlled the government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is a good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Turi, does our government know?
unidentified		Absolutely.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		They are firmly aware of the presence of UFOs and ETs.
		And the Roosevelt dilemma is obviously one of the most obvious stories that happen out there in Mexico.
		I'm firmly concerned with people in high position in the government who do not let us know about the reality of UFOs.
		But I do understand why, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the first time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Doctor, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, turn your radio off, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you would, please tell us where you're calling from.
unidentified		This is Larry from Redding, California, KQMS.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And a couple of things, Art, very, very strong listener of yours, and would like to have an answer to a couple of questions, if we might.
		One is, what do you predict to have happen in the Mount Shasta area, since Redding's about 60 miles south of Mount Shasta in Northern California?
		And also, we'd like to know if possibly you could do a with the predictions that the doctor or whoever you have as a guest do a deadline prediction check on it to see if something did happen that particular day oh well we just gave dates sir yeah we gave date but however however providing you could give me the location I could find the longitude and latitude I work specifically for this area however it doesn't
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		matter.
		The Universal Mind will take care of every single area.
		You guys are sitting on a fault.
		You're bound to jump, as simple as that.
		Now, the energy that's coming down we're giving to you is the date from April to June, and you check it out because you're going to jump on those dates.
		However, don't think, again, repeat myself, California is going to go under the ocean.
		That's not true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have anything specifically for Mount Shasta?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		As far as Mount Shasta is concerned, again, this is where I need to have the longitude and latitude of that specific location and that could be more precise remember i i am also a scientist and i need to find out the location of all these planets and base it on a longitude and latitude to be more precise predictions i understand you're on the air with dr turret from pennsylvania all right yeah um I'm not sure if I heard all of it.
unidentified		Our reception isn't great.
		I'm interested, without getting too personal, if he can elaborate.
		I think he said, I got the date.
		No planes.
		He said, take no planes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
		What's happening here, the energy is strong enough sometimes to disturb high-tech electronic equipment.
		And the FAA is looking for responsible, it has nothing to do with this.
		The energy gets so nasty on the date I gave that it literally screw up navigational system and that's why sometimes you have planes crashing.
		So on those dates I gave, it'd be a good idea for you obviously not to fly if you can avoid it.
unidentified		Is this all over the planet or just in the States?
		Or do you have an idea?
		Well the sun.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		The stars do not shine only for you, for me or for a specific city.
		It's all over.
		The universal mind and the sun shine for everybody.
		So this energy is concentrated on the date I gave you and will manifest itself.
		I guarantee you that.
		That's why I'm not afraid to give those dates.
		So the weather is going to go crazy.
		Communication, transportation will be screwed up.
		You're going to have obviously problems with transportation, as I said.
		Weather could turn out, earthquakes.
		These are the dates.
		I don't care how the energy will manifest itself as long as you know when.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		That's very interesting.
		So thank you, ma'am.
		So these are dates of large amounts of negative energy.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it would apply to all kinds of things.
unidentified		Right.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And it's my Star Guide Prediction book that I have would give you all these dates in great detail.
		However, there's a lot of people out there are not aware.
		God, there is rules.
		You have the physical world and you have the spiritual world.
		Being a doctor of metaphysics, I understand the other side of the coin.
		If you have rules on the physical manifestation, you are going to stop at the red lights.
		You are going to stop at the stop sign.
		You do respect the physical rules.
		You are going to go from A to Z with no problem.
		But if you do not understand that you have another side of this coin and you don't respect the rules of the spirit, which are given down to us from God's structure through the stars, then you're going to pay the heavy price of ignorance.
		That's why my book is all over the place trying to help people to respect the spiritual rules that God has imparted every one of us, or enslaved, I would say, every one of us to understand, use, and respect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Doctor, on the wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		I'm calling from Thousand Oaks, Art, and I just heard you verify a prediction that the doctor had made about an earthquake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is correct on the 25th.
unidentified		I'm just curious as to why is it you did not give any information on magnitude and location.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Scallion does that, and you do not do that, do you, Dr. No, I don't.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		It's always easier to give the date or the day that would happen than to give the location.
		Now, when you say there's going to be an earthquake in California, the fault is very long.
		So obviously, it's going to be out there or whenever the fault is running.
		What you have to do, which is more difficult, I believe, is giving the exact day when it happened.
unidentified		Well, what information did you give on the Ecuador quake as far as the prediction?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, like all the other quakes, including the one in Japan, including the one, all the earthquakes so far that happened.
		I have the exact date of every one of them, sir.
		I can send you the proof of all this.
unidentified		This Ecuador quake, though, did you say it would happen in Ecuador?
unidentified		Does it give the coordinates that it happened?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		What I said, Uranus, the Ponet of Saddam Release of Energy, who rules earthquakes, is in charge of this date of today.
		And it's on my book.
		It's printed, and it was printed a year and a half ago.
unidentified		We've still left out the coordinates, and it kind of doesn't really validate anything if you leave that out.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, if I tell you you're going to get hurt on that specific day, and you get hurt on that specific day, obviously you'll understand me.
unidentified		But earthquakes are occurring constantly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but you don't.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		No, they are not.
		No, they are not.
		Not such a big magnitude, sir.
		They happen.
		The earthquake with Japan in Kaube does not happen constantly.
unidentified		What about the five-point whatever?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		5.3.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		These are earthquakes that are noticeable.
		As long as they are reported on the news, they will be on my book.
		On the date I gave you, I want you, sir.
		You seem to be a good scientist, down to earth and practical, and I can only appreciate that.
		And also understand your skepticism.
		I want you to make notes of the data gave, and I want you to keep your eyes open on those dates.
		Then you'll understand where I'm coming from.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good enough.
		All right.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
		Good evening.
unidentified		Good evening.
		That's of KBI Country in Western Washington.
		How are you tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just fine.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I do have a question for the doctor concerning the Seattle, Tacoma area and what he thinks the future holds insofar as seismic activity is concerned.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we have the same problem that your listeners don't seem to grasp.
		The energy that comes down from the universe three or four times a month, we get to a very, very strong density.
		It comes down two or three times, sometimes four times a month.
		And this is, I have noticed, of course, by keeping an eye on my predictions and the news and everything else, to advise people about those dates.
		Now, on the date I gave you, you could be anywhere in the world.
		This energy will manifest itself not only as an earthquake.
		You don't want to miss the picture looking at one single manifestation of nature.
unidentified		I'm afraid I tuned in late and I missed the dates that you gave.
unidentified		Could you provide me those once again, please?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		April 2nd, 16, 23rd, 28th.
		May 7th, 13th, 19th, 25th.
		June 1st, 10th, 22nd, 29th.
		And I guarantee you that on those dates, you will experience nature's destructive force.
		And nature will just do what she has to do, like she's done forever, and does not only transform into an earthquake.
		It could be a volcano, could be a tornado, could be a plane crash.
		We're talking about energies that are able to disturb poor, uneducated human people here living on this earth, not aware of these energies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You refer to psychically educated.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Doctor, hold on.
		We'll be right back to you.
		This is Dreamland.
		Are you interested in past lives?
		What about future lives?
unidentified		What about future lives?
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to talk to Dr. Turi about something that I like to ask people like Dr. Turi about.
		Dr. Turi, somebody once told me, a friend of mine, that when you die, going to the light is a trick, and that instead you should go to the darkness.
		That has bothered me for a long time, Doctor.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it would bother me, too.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I would hate to go the wrong direction.
unidentified		That's right.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you that.
		It's just common sense, though.
		I mean, you're talking about light and life.
		If you work for happiness, if you work for kids, if you work for life and light, you'll be a happy guy.
		Now, if you work in a hospital or in a mortuary, trust me, you're going to feel sad.
		So you want to go where your instincts or your feelings are pushing you, obviously, towards the light.
		If you happen to be there, sometimes remember that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, I will try and remember that.
		So you say squarely, go toward the light.
		All right, east of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
		Good evening.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Several weeks ago, you had Randolph Winters, and he said that aliens relayed information to him that sometime between 1995 and 97, there would be massive hurricanes in the Atlantic and wipe out a southern part of Florida and a tidal wave up the east coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Could your guest would he agree with that, or does he have any information on that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, it's a good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Oh, this is Jack from Charleston, South Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Charleston, South Carolina.
		All right.
		Well, you can see why the concern about the East Coast.
		Is there anything you can tell them generally about large storms on the East Coast?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, because the geographical location and those energy that I just mentioned earlier, chances are these people are there will suffer again Hurricane Andrew thing type of story here.
		However, when it comes to this massive distraction, when it comes to California or thousands of people dying and so forth, you have to understand that people are there to make a buck.
		And if they decide to use your fears and feed on your fears to sell their products, then obviously, you know, you're a loser in the long run.
		I don't believe at all.
		I don't believe at all in mass destruction.
		In California or Florida, I'm going under the oceans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that is very interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You disagree so much with Mr. Scallion.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's right, completely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If there is really something to all of these psychic predictions, Doctor, why don't you psychics agree?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a very good question.
		First of all, you have to see the source of the information, the person that gives you this information.
		Now, is he alive on TV giving data of earthquake and it happened, for example?
		Is he sold his magazine and his book sold all over the world like it happened to me?
		Or did I fail out of a roof and then start to give direction and make maps of the world?
		You have to understand, you have to be practical when it comes to this world.
		There is such a little education for the general mass out there.
		The mass is gullible, the mass is fearful, and this is obviously how religion and it feeds it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Doctor.
		All right, hold on.
		I do, yes.
		Hold on.
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		From the Kingdom of Nye, we continue with your calls on Dreamland with Art Bell.
		Call Art Now, toll-free, at 1-800-618-8255, 1-800-618-TALK.
		First time callers, Area Code 702-727-1222.
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		In the 702 area code.
		Now again, here's our bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now again, here I am.
		My guest is Dr. Lewis Trury, and we will lay heavily into the phones this hour.
		So if you've been trying to get through, this would be a good hour for it.
		The east of the Rockies line is 1-800-825-5033.
		West of the Rockies, 1-800-618-8255.
		The wildcard lines, Area Code 702-727-1295.
		And finally, first time callers at Area Code 702-727-1222.
		And I have a very pointed question by fax, a couple of them actually, for Dr. Turi in a moment.
unidentified		First, the SFX30.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you have been wanting to get into the world of faxing, and I can tell you that once you acquire a fax machine, you will never want to let go.
		They're wonderful.
		They are probably the best way to transfer information quickly known to man right now.
		You can send a fax with this machine in 50.
		Doctor, here's a fax.
		The doctor himself opened the door on this one.
		Don't let him off the hook.
		O.J. Simpson, guilty or not?
unidentified		O.J. Simpson, guilty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Guilty.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Very much indeed.
		He is a Gemini dragon star, which means the words of the sign of Gemini indicate his dual personality.
		Sad enough, he is also a Sagittarius star, which means he attracts foreigners.
		He's extremely unlucky with the legal system.
		No matter how much money, no matter how much fame is backing him up, in the long run, the entire deal won't work for him.
		And he's also born with the moon in Painsish, which means Pinsish was the 12-house confinement.
		It was anything to do with deception, drugs, alcohol, including asylum and imprisonment, and fate to fall towards either asylum, mental institution, or jail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My mind.
		All right.
		Also, and this is a good question, the Iraq situation, does he see us going to war over the two captives or going to war again with Iraq?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and it.
		Actually, I have taped the day before the Grand War.
		I gave the exact date of the beginning and the ending of the Grand War on TV and on radio in California.
		and uh I prepared everybody to be ready for Saddam Hussein doing some nasty things again.
		He is somebody not to trust, obviously.
		He's born with the moon in Scorpio.
		Scorpio is the sign of death, and the moon regulates the people that are under his command or his domestic scenery, which is his cities.
		And that's why, as predicted well before it happened, everything went through dramatic restructuring out there.
		And yes, he'll do it again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Now, another question.
		Dr. Turi, does positive energy, positive, ever come down also in large bursts?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it does.
		Basically, the reason why I emphasize negativity is because if I say you're going to get hurt, you'll remember me.
		But there is possibility also to channel this positive energy.
		I have to mention that the thought process is extremely strong.
		If you have a lot of people which are generating positive thoughts, they will create the future.
		The future is the reincarnation of the thoughts in my work.
		And matter is a concentration of thoughts or electricity.
		So in other words, when you have a lot of people thinking positively, they will be some magical forces because, yes, magic indeed exists.
unidentified		And so you could change the course of your destiny.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Your will or the path of God inside of you is much stronger than those stars.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		However, if you're not educated, you are going to pay the price of ignorance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Dorothy, Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		First, I have a question for the doctor.
		Yes.
		How accurate are you on your prediction?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I've been so far, I'd say 100% accurate, and I'm not afraid to say it because I gave data and I want you to check it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
unidentified		Okay, and another one.
unidentified		How will O.J. Simpson be will he will the jury choose him guilty or not guilty?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's an interesting question.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's already been answered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a different question.
		Or is it not?
		Maybe it's not.
		In other words, you are predicting the jury will say he is guilty.
		That's correct.
		Is that any different than whether he is in fact guilty or not?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		He is actually guilty.
		Through the stars, remember, the stars are very impersonal.
		They don't care.
		They don't feel.
		They just do what they were intended to do by God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying he is guilty and they will say he is guilty.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And they will get him also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's specific enough.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Do you find any numerological correlations with your astrological correlations?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Numerology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, numerology, yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		All sciences are related, lady.
		Astrology, numerology, chiromancy, name it.
		The only thing is there is one truth, so every doors are open to find the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
unidentified		Hi, I'd like to make a comment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, turn your radio off and tell us where you're calling from.
unidentified		Okay, I'm calling from Junction City, Kansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay, I was wondering about, I understand there's a deal called a spiral calendar, which has to do with the stars and the moon and the sun and planets and stuff that all come together and it can tell you what's going to happen, such as financial things.
		I understand that the stock market is going to crash around mid-October or something of this year.
		I was wondering if he thinks that may have any substance or if it's just a load of crap.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, again, this energy can also affect the financial world.
		I did predict of the crash of Dow John and so forth.
		Again, this is to get all this information, my book can cover all that, but I'm going to do it over the telephone, obviously.
		But yes, the stars do affect the finances and affect our career.
		The stars affect the 12 specific area of man.
		Each area of our life is commanded by a specific energy, like every part of your body is controlled by a specific star, which indicate why you are prone to suffer one area and not in the others.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the negative energy days would be good days to worry about the stock market, and the positive energy days would be good days to invest, yes?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Basically, this is what it is, yes.
		Plus, you have also, you have to respect the universal law, which is based on the moon fluctuations.
		The moon control our psyche.
		When she is waxing, like the farmers used to do, they use the crops, they use the moon fluctuations for their crops.
		So if you put your endeavors, when the moon is waxing, chances are your outcome will be positive.
		Anything after the full moon, obviously, is going against the energy or the ladder of the universe, so to speak.
		I cannot explain this in detail.
		It can all be done in my books.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		I'm calling from Chapel Hill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		North Carolina?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Dr. Turi.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Speaking.
unidentified		How are you?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing good, my friend.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have two questions.
unidentified		Will Saddam Hussein finish the Tower of Babel?
		Will what?
		Will Saddam Hussein finish rebuilding the Tower of Babel?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, basically, Saddam Hussein is a nasty guy.
		He has some negative stars.
		Again, people are not aware when they elect a president.
		If he has bad stars like Hitler, the people are going to suffer his destiny.
		He's in charge of a nation.
		He had bad stars.
		Sad enough, people are not aware of the power of God to the stars, and they are paying with their ignorance and their body and their family and their security.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, but his question is with regard to the Tower of Babel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe he is rebuilding it.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		We are trying to tell you, he will do anything that he can to respect his destiny that was imposed by his stars at birth, and he is a negative spirit.
unidentified		Okay.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		So everybody under his command will pay the price to have elected him.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And do you foresee the daggers of Agamato being found?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely too.
		But you have to give it time here.
		That's not going to be down overnight.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And on the first time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
unidentified		Yes, I'm calling from Grass Valley, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Does Dr. Turi see in the stars a figure person such as Jesus coming to earth to help rule the world?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you seem to be pretty religious, darling.
unidentified		You have to.
unidentified		Not really.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
		I understand you're looking for figures and everybody has his own beliefs and so forth.
		I do believe that the new age will bring new leaders and faith and religion will be a very different source than what it is practiced or believed today.
		Leaders have been with us forever.
		We're talking about Jesus, but there is also Buddha, there is Hala, there is so many of them.
		Remember, there is 875 different religions in this world.
		So I would believe there will be always leaders.
		There's always been.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is your attitude, Doctor, about religion?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I understand that God is the ultimate creator.
		He created the stars, and it's written in the Bible, the first few words will tell you God created the stars and the heavens.
		And if you look forward to be used, that's fine.
		However, man has lost his cosmic consciousness by being more scientifically oriented around the 16th century.
		And I do believe that 875 different religions have killed mothers, children, fathers, brothers, and sisters much more than what he should have.
		So following a God which is based on fear, negativity, which is promising hell forever, is not the type of God I will follow.
		God speaks to me through the stars and it is the only way to speak through him, through the stars.
		However, when you ask, you shall receive.
		If you don't ask, and if you're not courageous, or if for some reason you have negative stars that stop your cosmic consciousness or your mantle exploration, you're not going to ask for the light.
		Ask and you shall receive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Stand by, Doctor.
		We'll be right back to you.
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		All right, Dr. Turi.
		Past lives and future lives.
		I was just talking about Dr. Goldberg, and he firmly believes in that.
		And I take it you do as well.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you give me some idea of how a soul or an entity progresses through the lives?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, do you believe there are various levels of what we think as, as of, as heaven?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there is.
		Put it this way.
		If somebody, if this, I understand.
		But it is the amount of work you're doing on this dense physical world, on this present reincarnation, which is going to give you on your next reincarnation the stars pattern that would make you an Einstein, a castle, or a singer or a painter.
		Do you understand what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		It has to do with the work you're doing because the only thing you're going to bring with you after this life is the amount of knowledge which is going to be stored on the Akashics record on your hard drive, so to speak.
		Now, you actually have chosen a specific place to be born.
		It could have been more in Africa if you have to learn what sadness and depression and poverty and even death is all about.
		Now, if you decide to learn what's wealth, obviously you're going to be reincarnated as a person in high class area.
		So, what I'm trying to tell you is as you progress through your knowledge, you do not have to suffer hardship.
		So, you come up in a different level of consciousness in each world.
		Each one of these stars you see out there, a million miles, lights away, supports also lives.
		The different dimensions, different type of experience, different energy.
		Everything is unlimited, put it this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I am listening.
unidentified		Yes, I have a question about specific.
unidentified		Anything coming up with the New Madrid fault?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now, he's not doing that, sir.
		Everybody needs to listen very carefully.
		He is not predicting specific fault troubles.
		He's simply giving us dates which indicate a great deal of negative energy is present.
		And whether it's the New Madrid fault or the California faults or faults anywhere, these will be days, correct, Doctor, that something could happen.
		Doesn't it even have to be an earthquake?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		Now, we are beginning to understand here that we are talking about energy that may manifest itself in anything drastic.
		For example, on the Earth Tribulation Report that goes out to about 5,000 people or so, I gave the date of March the 20th, and I said on that specific day that there will be some negative energy.
		So what we had, we had the Japanese gas attack, we had the flood in California, the building collapse in New York, the Tokyo earthquake on that specific day.
		That is the maximum type of energy which is transforming into a disaster.
		Now, if you're living on a fault, obviously you're going to jump.
		That's just common sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		I'm calling from the Metro St. Louis area.
unidentified		My name is Gary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Gary.
unidentified		How are you doing today, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
unidentified		I have a question for your guest, Dr. Turi.
unidentified		I'm concerned about actually a Reuters press release that Art mentioned yesterday on his show about the splitting up of the ice cap and Antarctica.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, we are going back again into this new age frantic stuff here.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And I am seriously upset about this entire idea of people generating news or eventually selling products because they are fitting on your fails and you're gullible enough to swallow it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, wait, doctor, wait.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm going to help you to understand.
		I had a news story this last Friday night, Saturday morning, Reuters News, which indicates there is a scientist who is saying that right now the Antarctic ice cap is beginning to split and melt and that it is indeed getting warmer.
		This is an Argentinian scientist, yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		The point is this has been going on for already, if I remember even something like 10 years ago.
		We were already talking about it.
		There were rumors of those back in Europe, 10 years ago, about the ice cap and so forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he has found a large new split.
		That's what he's saying.
		And we just wanted to ask you about that.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I would not be surprised.
		Now that I understand a little bit more the question, especially with all this chemical throat in the atmosphere and the ozone layer, so we are done to affect and to upset Mother Nature, but they are to the point of producing dramatical things that don't believe it.
		You know, nature, when she decides to get rid of us, she's like a dog.
unidentified		When she scratches herself, well, like fleas, we're out of here.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		As simple as that, like we have done with like we have done with many disappeared civilizations, the Atlantis and so forth.
		This is part of history.
		Nature is strong enough to take care of herself, and I don't think we should be worried too much about such a drastic change of volcanoes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so we should think of ourselves like fleas on a dog's hide.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's all we are when you look at it.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		If there is a volcano that blew up next to you, where are your history?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi there.
		Call from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I have two quick questions I'd like to hang up and listen.
		First is, to what degree are these waves of negative energy, are they simply something that's generated by astrologicals, but just by the stars?
		Or does it have something to do with the negative state of the planet?
		Okay.
		And also, what does the sign Leo tend to signify?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, basically, this is a combination of both.
		When you have a negative energy, like now, the dragon's head is in the sign of Scorpio, which has made since 1980 this world a very dramatic place.
		A full restructure has been taking place since November 1980 and has brought people to their knees.
		Scorpio wants the rich to experience what is to be poor.
		Scorpio wants the people to understand that life is a process of constant changes and the stars are pushing forward.
		Now, California, especially California, there is a lot of people out there that are constantly, like a battery, generating a lot of negative energy.
		So combined with the interstellar order imposed by God, this thought process is building to the point of making this place imperable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank you very much.
		All right.
		Stand by, Doctor.
		You know, there's an interesting comment.
		The negative energy coming from the people in California may soon make it uninhabitable.
		That's fascinating.
		We'll be back.
		This is CBC.
		Faxed in, Doctor.
		Are you ready?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I am ready.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My first facts are read down in San Diego, would like to know who and can you tell who might be president in 1996?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good question.
		Again, there is two people through the stars that lead.
		The first one is, again, President Clinton.
unidentified		Okay.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And the second one is in the Grand War.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		A very important general.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		General Colin Powell.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		Okay, it's going to be a tight, tight energy between those two guys.
		Did the president of the United States ending up again in charge?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, with the president winning, well, there's a sad message from the stars.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sorry, but you know, the stars don't care.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		They do things as they supposed to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, from Daryl in Arizona, ask your guest whether we will have World War III ever, and if so, when will it be?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I think the United States should be more concerned with the upcoming internal religious war, which is going to take place starting about a year from now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, religious war?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Inside the United States, yes.
		They're going to be some once the dragon's head and once the dragon's head under the side of Pisces, that's going to produce some serious stress on the religious front.
		Sad enough, there are going to be more killing, more disruption for or against abortion dilemma that would go out of hand.
		Then on top of that, you have to keep in mind that the next two years are going to be taken care by the planet Marx, which is the planet of war.
		So indeed, we're going to some serious trouble here unless we get to understand what's going on and start to use diplomacy in every area.
		The thing that really worries me most is the attack, so to speak, of the police force against the young generation, which is going to get out of hand.
		We're talking about a gang generation now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Across America, in places like New Orleans and other cities, there is much violence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Young people killing young people.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would think that your method of looking at energy would be able to forecast how that's going to go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it going to get worse, better, worse?
unidentified		Yes.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		The reason why those kids are killing themselves is because the planet of Pluto is in the sign of Libra, which rules partnership.
		Those kids have a strong, strong belief of respect.
		No matter how old they are, they live for a false sense of security.
		They live for a band.
		And they actually regenerate in situations of life and death.
		The seventh house is OpenZenemy, which means the police force and the structure of our society.
		And those kids, combined with Moscow, which is called in Greek mythology the Lord of the War, for the next two years, we own for a bumpy time.
		Again, all these predictions are in great detail in my books, but I cannot cover that tonight, obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, that's the next subject.
		And I'm going to have to make you do it.
		Art, the doctor has mentioned several times his book with the predictions, but nothing about where you can get the books.
		Please ask him how.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, first of all, they could get our Earth Tribulation Report, which is from LA, the New World Million Institute.
		They can call our voicemail at 714-219-4503.
		Then they can line up to get all my prediction months after month.
		Now, if they want my book, then they have to call another number, which is the record 602-602-482-482.
unidentified		Correct.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		482-5520.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me repeat this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For the Earth, what is it called again, your report monthly?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Earth Tribulation Report.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Earth Tribulation Report at Area Code 714-219-4503.
		Yeah, this is.
		And your book is Area Code 602-482-5520.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
		Now, this book is published in Russia, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Mexico, and the United States.
		And it came out just this year in the United States.
		So I'm just starting to put it out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's brand new.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he also tells you when to invest.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he should not give my number now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, doctor, let's go to another call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
unidentified		Yes, I'd like to ask Dr. Turi if astrologically there's a similarity between the dates that he gave.
unidentified		I noticed that some of them are near a solar eclipse, some are near lunar eclipses.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		No, darling, I do not use modern astrology.
		This doesn't really work.
		I use divine astrology, which is most of them used 16th century method.
		Remember, he didn't have a computer, he didn't have a watch, so he doesn't go by solar return, eclipse, the rising, sextile degree, and so forth.
		The technique I use is called Divine Astrology, and I have a specific program that was made by Halloween Software in LA.
		I'm the only one who does this type of astrology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Divine astrology?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's correct, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you very much for the call, and good evening.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, how are you doing, Eric?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in Montana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I get you out of Salt Lake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, I think the difference between Dr. Turi and Scallion is that his intuition is directed toward astrology, obviously, which is very much dealing with dates.
		And Scallion's intuition is directed toward the planet itself right now.
		So he gets information intuitively regarding specific things like epicenters and magnitudes and so on.
		And so the individual people have to decide which is more useful.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I also think it will be interesting to take the dates given by Dr. Turi and apply them to whatever happens regarding specific predictions of scallion.
unidentified		Right.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I want you to understand that when I give dates like I did tonight, I want you to keep a close eye on it because I'm telling you it will happen.
		No, that's because I saw it in a dream.
		That's because my past, my previous record prediction is, as I said, on TV and radio, it's unarguable.
		Certified mail was sent to the Seismologist Institute in Pasadena.
		There is many newspapers and books all over the world which are carrying my predictions and it's all there and it can be given to anybody which is skeptical.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry, Doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be watching.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
unidentified		Quick question.
		Yes.
		Yes, Dr. Turi.
		If you work on it, can you work on a specific area or specific individuals in terms of how that relates to what would happen in dates?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, sir.
		Countries like Person are also controlled by the stars.
		Like the United States, for example, is a country which is controlled by the sign of cancer.
		Cancer is the sign that rules traditionally the fourth house, which is the base of our operation, housing, clothing, and food.
		America is the only country in the world where people are spending millions of dollars to lose fat.
		A country which is forced to spill food all over the world to help other people.
		A country which is so magnetic because of the American dream.
		Because beauty, because the possibility of making your dreams coming true, that is represented by the sign of cancer, eating constantly, perched on a rock, and the food supply is represented by the oceans.
		France is controlled by Leo, the sign of power, love and romance.
		That's why we say French are romantic.
unidentified		Russia, your newsletter, does that give more specific information regarding places and individuals?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is a good question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your newsletter does get specific.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		It gives you great detail in relocation, when to go out if you're looking for UFOs.
		The Michigan UFOs was predicted a year and a half ago.
		The most obvious UFO experience that was recorded on a radar in March the 7th, I think, yes.
		Was fully predicted in my calendar when I tell everybody to go out and look for them that specific night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		No.
		Art, I was busy dialing.
		I missed his number.
		Before the show ends, will you give his number out again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'll do it right now.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		And please don't call now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, don't call now.
		If you would like his monthly report, it's area code 714-219-4503.
		His book, which I have a copy of right here called Star Guide, can be obtained at Area Code 602-482-5520.
		Hope you got it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lewis Turi.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, I'm calling from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Could you tell us more about your encounter with the UFO?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Tell you what, I'm going to be doing a conference in San Diego.
		I'll be at the Golden Lights of Christ Church, 4144 Campus Avenue.
		If you want to call those guys, I'm going to show a slideshow where people are going to see actually a UFO landing in the desert of Mexico.
		We're going to see all sorts of interesting things.
		So I'm going to give you a number for those guys over there, if I may.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, go ahead.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		It's 619-463-8727.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I'll be doing a big lecture over there in San Diego in a couple of weeks from now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you get that caller?
unidentified		Yes, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		619-463-8727.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's my next lecture in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, very good.
		On the first-time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, my name is Clayton.
unidentified		I'm in Laughlin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Laughlin, Nevada, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Now, I'd like to ask a couple of questions.
		One is, what is the difference between his divine astrology and psychic astrology?
		As I'm myself, I'm a professional psychic, and I used psychic astrology, and I predicted the megabucks two years in a row.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Very good, very good.
		What happened is, you see, I was born in the same village that Australius in the south of France.
		And before they turned his house into a museum, I was lucky enough to go and look and study his type of astrology.
		Remember, for all the people out there who are using Australius' work to do predictions, you know, it's a difficult situation here.
		You have to take the 15th century French, change it into our French, then you have to speak our local dialect called the Provençal.
		And most of all, you have to do the astrology you used to do, which is divine astrology.
		So that's the one I use, that's the one I master, that's the one I have a specific program made by Alohan Software in LA.
		I'm the only one who does this, and I teach it, and I also, not only in my class with my students here in Phoenix, but also by mail and videotapes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Doctor, stand by.
		We'll be right back to you.
		My guest is Dr. Lewis Turi, and he will be right back.
unidentified		When it comes to UFOs, I'll bet you agree with me it's time...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, back to Dr. Lewis Turi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, are you there?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I am here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Not a lot of time, so let's fit some calls in.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, I am calling from Palm Springs, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I have a contradiction, I think, referring to the O.J. Simpson prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You referred to him as a Gemini, and yet you gave a character.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I remember I don't do modern astrology.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		I do divine astrology, Danny.
unidentified		Oh, okay, because his birthday you said was July 9.
		Mm-hmm.
		He's a cancer.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		He's a cancer.
		I'm aware of that.
		But remember, I do his divine astrology, which classifies him as a Gemini.
unidentified		Okay.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		It's a long story.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Take my book, and I will teach you all that the right way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
		Good evening.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
		Where are you, sir?
		East of the Rockies.
		Where?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		What's inville, Pennsylvania?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pennsylvania.
		All right.
		Go ahead.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		What's your question, sir?
unidentified		You know, I have a question.
unidentified		I have a statement.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Rush Limbaugh messed up on his little.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, we're not talking about Rush Limbaugh, but thank you.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		He mentioned religion a little while ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And I was curious, why is there so many different religions?
unidentified		And if there is so many, is there only one God or is there many?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that's a good question.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Okay, first of all, you have to understand it's extremely difficult to teach the manifestation of God through the stars.
		That's scientific.
		That takes me many, many years to understand and to master.
		Plus, on top of that, you have to have the gift and the natural gift of curiosity.
		Now some people do not have all these tools with them so it's easy to tell them things are easier for them to assimilate.
		On top of that a lot of religions are growing non-stop because it's the best way to make a good living by feeding with the with fears.
		People are easily manipulated, they're all insecure, it's part of man's nature to fight for his life, so by imposing rules and imposing fears and a God is going to send you to hell, you will end up controlling them.
		So that's what is religion are about, basically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You believe religion is about control through fear?
		Absolutely.
		So that's why there are so many.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there only one creator, Doctor?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there is.
		I believe in God firmly.
		But again, my God is free of fear, and he's full of lights, and he's full of light.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think he's more like the one that I believe in as well.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
		Hello.
unidentified		Okay, you know, do you want to personally be responsible for correcting Rush Limbaugh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't want to.
		You already called.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Sandy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, what's your question, Sandy?
unidentified		Yeah, well, my question is, does Dr. Curry see O.J. walking free?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he already said that.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		We already answered that question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed we did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Curry.
unidentified		Yeah, if O.J., like you say, will be considered guilty, will there be a riot?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good question.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Well, tell you what, all the white people are going to have a riot if he goes free.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, is that a joke, or are you really saying?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
		I don't think there's going to be another riot.
		But that was a different energy.
		Actually, I sent a letter to John Green to the LA police officer, chief of police, and I give him the date when this would happen.
		By the way, I have a copy of this almanac calendar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'd be Willie Williams.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it wasn't him.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		At that time, no, I can't remember his name right away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, on the wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Turi.
unidentified		I don't believe I finally got through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you did.
unidentified		Where are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from Mace, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yes, I was wondering, I believe in psychic abilities, and I have some things that have happened to me, and I have predictions that I have made.
		I just can't control it.
		I never know when it's going to come to me.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		What's your question there?
unidentified		Pardon?
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		What's your question?
unidentified		Well, is it possible to, in other words, when I get one of those, I don't know whether you get that way or not, but if I get a premonition and if it's really a bad one, I try not to think about it.
unidentified		Maybe it won't happen, but it does anyway.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Good thinking.
		Remember, your thought power is able to manipulate the subtle forces which are into your subconscious where God resides.
		So if your prayer or your wishes are strong enough, you're going to be able to control the outcome of this physical world.
		That's the true feeling of faith.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's just one person, but it's very important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Each individual person must think positively.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Yes, this is one of the reasons, as we mentioned earlier, why California is such under stress, that it's millions of people out there which are every single day generating negative thoughts.
		And the concentration of this negative energy turn out to make people's lives misery out there.
		It's about time, you know, that they stop being literally harassed with frantic new ages and fear of the apocalypse and all these people out there throwing dirt and fear on these people out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doctor, we are out of time.
		Okay.
		We must go.
		It has been a pleasure and lines are still all stacked up, but we only have so much time.
		So I want to thank you.
		We will have you back again.
		We have recorded your dates.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And believe me, we will be checking.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		God bless you all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Turi, thank you.
dr louis turi ▲ ● ▼		Bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And good evening.
		And to all of you, good evening.
		If you would like a copy of this program, the one you just heard, with a great deal of information in it, you can get it by calling now or 24 hours a day.
		1-800-917-4278.
		That line's open now.
		1-800-917-4278.
		On behalf of all those who bring you Dreamland.
		Thank you.
		See you next week.

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