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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
It is the fourth day of February 2008.
We're going to be live for the next three hours.
We are probably going to have a surprise guest.
I mean, it's confirmed, but the individual is rolling down the road, on the road, and is going to be doing the interview via cell phone, so that can always be tricky.
But we do have a big guest coming on the transmission today.
I'm just going to leave it at that.
I always like to have surprises for the audience, for the listeners, and so it looks like today will be quite a day, if not today, tomorrow.
And the individual will be on for a full hour, by the way, a full hour with us to talk about quite a few very important issues and topics.
So that is coming up later in this broadcast today.
I'll just leave it at that.
I know people like surprises, and there will probably be quite a surprise today for you here on air.
Now, here is the stacks of news I have in front of me that we're going to be covering in the meantime.
They're all extremely important.
CNN thinks they've broken something.
Head of 9-11 panel had friends in the White House and was basically a White House operative.
Philip Zelikow, as we've always talked about and discussed here for the last four years.
Also, a Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay.
Well, of course, it's a new tax.
You thought the Social Security tax was a great rip-off, where you would have gotten millions back, but instead you get subsistence level.
Well, they've got a whole new one, where they're going to force you to have health care, no matter how much it costs, and they're going to tap your pay.
Forget even paying your taxes at the end of the year or quarterly.
They're just going to take whatever they want.
I've always told you that's coming, and now it's here.
That dovetails in with the Mississippi and other states trying to pass laws where if you walk in the restaurant and are overweight, by law, they're supposed to refuse you food.
I'm not kidding.
This is the total nanny state where everyone has turned into a social worker under federal and state law.
So we'll be going over that for you today.
The really big news, U.S.
troops ask if they will shoot American citizens.
This is old news, but there's been some new developments, and Paul has written a good story up on PrisonPlanet.com.
We'll be going over that and meshing it with a story from 2006, May of 2006, that we broke here.
Secret FEMA plan to use protesters as pacifiers in preparation for martial law.
We broke it in a big way nationally.
Butch Paul, pastor, actually had the pastor on first and notified us of it.
We appreciate it and helped the pastors get us secret documents.
And one of them got in big trouble and fired from a hospital for it.
He had a pretty big church as well.
He still has that.
But people didn't believe the documents, even though they had FEMA phone numbers on them.
Now it's been on national news a year later.
And it dovetails in, so I thought I'd kind of give you an overview of the latest developments and how it all ties together.
Three Internet cables slash in a week has Iran lost all Internet connectivity.
This is clearly a staged event.
More on Ann Coulter and how she's endorsing Hillary and saying she's our girl.
But this Middle East Internet blackout spurs geopolitical suspicions.
These are cables hundreds and hundreds of miles away from each other separately.
There are hundreds of cables, and these are the exact cables going into Iran and Egypt.
The rest of the region doesn't have its internet off.
It's just magically these deep-sea cables are being cut with precision.
And if you believe three of them have been cut in a four-day space, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on accident, I've got a bridge.
I'm happy to show you on the surface of the sun.
There's a lot more coming up today.
Big broadcast the fourth day of February 2007.
Definitely be making the news today.
We'll be right back.
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On a warm summer's evening, on a train bound for nowhere,
Met up with a gambler We were both too tired to sleep So we took turns staring Out the window at the darkness The boredom overtook us And he began to speak He said, son, I've made my life Out of reading people's faces And knowing what the cards were By the way they held their eyes So if you don't mind me saying
I can see you're out of aces For a taste of your whiskey I'll give you some advice So I handed him my bottle And we drank down by less while over Then he bummed a cigarette And asked me for a light And the night got deathly quiet
Space lost all expression Said if you're gonna play the game, boy You gotta learn to play it right You gotta know when to hold up Know when to fold up Know when to walk away Know when to run You never count your money When you're sitting at the table There'll be time enough to count When the dealing's done
Now every gambler knows The secret to survivin' Is knowin' what to throw away Knowin' what to keep Cause every hand's a winner And every hand's a loser And the best you can hope for Is to die in your sleep So when he'd finished speakin' He turned back toward the window
Welcome back.
Welcome back.
Thanks for joining us.
It is the fourth day of February 2008.
We're going to be here for the next two hours and 50-something minutes.
All right, let's get into the news here.
Let me just start off with the martial law information.
I know we talk a lot about it here.
And we tend to only give you pieces.
It'll sound like I'm giving you the whole story, but none of us, except those running the system, actually have all the pieces.
And most people in the FBI, Homeland Security, the military, even high-level officers, they may have a lot of the pieces themselves, but they don't have all the pieces.
But studying martial law globally, studying police state societies, studying societies that are run by dictatorships and oligarchies.
And then looking at the different declassified documents and the hearings and interviewing a lot of experts and going out and actually videotaping and covering a special operations group out of the Army and going out and covering the Marine Expeditionary Force and going out and videotaping Marine Corps trainees.
Many times that listeners have sent me in many cases where I've physically flown to California, Florida,
South Texas, many other areas to see it for myself and making free films on the subject.
Police State 2000, Police State 2, The Takeover, Police State 3, Total Enslavement, the merger of our police into the military, the control of our police, the staged events, the provocateurs in Seattle, the provocateurs in 99, the provocateurs that were caught and admitted they were police, staging events and attacking police just last year in Montebello, outside of the Capitol in Ottawa, Canada.
I mean, it's a large picture, and we could back-engineer it in the late 90s.
We could document what they were doing with a piece here, a piece there, and we laid out what we thought was happening, a long-term strategic operation to switch the entire economy over into prisons, police, checkpoints, searches, surveillance.
In 1998, Mike Hansen, driving back the day after Thanksgiving...
From visiting family in Fort Worth.
Saw a bus pulled over, Greyhound bus, just south of Temple, with troops all over it.
Pulled up, found out the bus had already been there eight hours.
FBI pulls up, tells him get back from the bus.
Hands him a document.
Later turned out they handed us a classified document that's in Police State 2, the takeover, by the way.
And in that document,
It said that there's a secret operation in 77 Texas counties at the time.
Now we've confirmed it's all counties.
That's 10 years later.
Hundreds of counties here.
But at that time it was a secret operation out of Fort Hood, 77 counties.
Police engaging in secret law enforcement operations with the military.
Not for terrorism, but all crime.
And in fact it said crime.
Terrorism and fighting crime.
Military in police uniforms, police in military uniforms, massive secret operation.
Of course, it was going on nationwide.
That was a key piece of the puzzle, because that confirmed what we'd already seen in redacted versions of PDD-25.
It confirmed what we'd already seen in congressional hearings in 1986.
It confirmed what we'd seen on the ground.
I mean, I'd go to an urban warfare drill, and the Marines...
Would give media tours, and then they would separately during these drills in Oakland and other places give citizen tours.
And in the citizen tours, which we inserted camera guys into, they knew I was media, but we kept Mike separate and sent him in separately as just a citizen there in Oakland as they were conditioning the public.
And there they said it's martial law basically for America.
They did mock interrogations of American citizens.
They did mock
You know, putting Americans on their knees, role players.
They hired hundreds of actors, and they blow your brains out at point-blank range with their M-16.
We put that, of course, in Police State 2000.
We also had listeners, Mr. Green and others, who lived in Maryland right next to Hebron, Maryland.
One morning they got a call.
Over a thousand Marines were there.
They drove into the town, were politely videotaping the Marines coming up to the YMCA children and paying them to ride around on their bicycles and to seek out the militia members who were being played by Marines.
They also had Marines in plain clothes.
It was an intelligence operation with the city police chief and the state police.
They then walk over.
To the cameramen in the middle of Hebron, Maryland, right in front of the city hall, which the Marines had taken over.
And one of the Marines has a medium-sized machine gun, and the others have M16s, and they've got M16s, and they order him with the police to put his camera down and stop videotaping, or they're going to arrest him.
So this was the type of stuff that has gone on, and so I'd get on air and say, look, there's a big program, there's a big project to take over this country.
And then, in 1999, a former Florida police officer who had gotten there in the dot-com bus, he'd been a Marine Corps officer, got up to captain level,
He'd been recruited in 1988, after years in the Marine Corps, to run secret operations in Virginia.
And he did it in several cities.
That interview, by the way, is in Road to Tyranny.
He had been recruited, and he led a squad of Marines in police uniform.
By police uniform, wearing, you know, Navy...
Jackets with body armor that just said police on it.
Raiding drug dealers and gun shops all over Virginia.
Part of a secret program, getting rid of posse commentatus integrating.
Totally illegal at the time.
And why did he do that?
Well, he got stopped at a National Guard checkpoint in Kyle.
He was driving back with his wife, and I went to this guy's house.
You know, the big mansion, the whole nine yards, owns a computer company.
Really nice fella.
And he'd heard me, he knew it was true what was going on, but he still thought maybe it's a good thing until he got to experience women, other cars, having their stuff thrown out on the ground by troops.
And they just randomly were doing it.
And so he talked to us.
And there's thousands of other pieces of that.
They were, turned out it was, quote, a drill, but they didn't tell the people who it turned out were there more than 12 hours.
Mike got there eight, nine hours in.
And they just randomly, with Greyhound, diverted the bus over there and had different army squads run through it, landing by helicopter, searching the bus.
And it was all part of an acclimation operation.
Then, the same town, Belton, in 2000, was going to have an anti-terror drill, we learned from a good police officer up there, who told us about it.
They didn't tell the public it was a drill.
You've seen this all over the country.
They blow up two cars in front of the city hall.
Everybody in the neighborhood, right in the middle of downtown, start running up to see what's happening.
Marine Corps and Navy people walk over and tell us to turn our cameras off.
We tell them no.
Then the same Army team out of Fort Hood comes over and says, You're Alex Jones.
You're Mike Hanson.
You're the guys that put me on the Internet at the Belton operation.
A couple years ago, turn your camera off.
And I said, no, it's all on video.
I'm not turning any camera off.
This is the United States, buddy.
Now, they tell you NORTHCOM was set up in 2001.
We have speeches, documents, CFR reports on it in 1990.
Bill Clinton giving speeches in 93.
This is the theater of operations for total control militarily.
We are under martial law.
It's just not hot martial law.
Unless you're in the schools where they make you drug test and thumbprint you to get your food or library books or have microphones in the classrooms and cameras and in the bathrooms they have them.
Again, that's the training ground there.
So it's already hot martial law there with drug dogs and searches and everything else.
But imagine those poor people on that Greyhound bus and later came out and they said, oh, it was just a drill.
And it was a drill.
They were running team after team through.
Made these people sit there in a Dairy Queen
For more than 12 hours.
While they sent team after team, helicopter after helicopter, landing with team after team, police coming up saying we couldn't videotape it.
Then the city pulled a bunch of dump trucks in front of the bus and the troops so we couldn't get video of it.
But then after, in Belton a few years later, after they blew up the cars, then the mayor gave a press conference like they'd been hit by terrorists and at the end added,
By the way, we weren't hit by terrorists.
And in the newspaper, it said the same thing.
It was a drill.
Big, long article at the last.
It said, by the way, it was a drill to get you in fear.
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I am a shotgun rider For the San Jacinto line The desert is my brother My skin is cracked and dry I was riding on a folk coach And everything was fine Till we took a shorter road To save some time Bandits only fired once They shot me in the chest They may have wounded me But they'll never get the best Of better men
We're good to go.
But the captain bumped a sandbar And a lace fell from my sleeve They threw me overboard And I swore I didn't cheat But I could swim And I'll ride again
I think this is the best line from this little piece, America Remains, from The Highwaymen.
We'll ride again.
I am a Midwest farmer.
I make a living off the land.
I ride a John Deere tractor.
I'm a liberated man.
But the rain hasn't fallen since the middle of July.
And if it don't come soon, my crops will die.
The bankman says he likes me, but there's nothing he can do.
He tells me that he's coming, but the clouds are coming too.
He ain't my friend.
And I'll ride again.
All right, I'm going to continue breaking down the martial law paradigm, get into the latest news, but I'm giving you background.
And you're not going to hear this, unfortunately, anywhere else.
We're trying to give you a wide spectrum view and then get into the latest info.
Put very simply, the United States military has been taken over by private interests.
The Federal Reserve took over the financial system in 1913.
And by 1963, they had complete control of the federal government.
They've been quietly taking control of every county and city and state through standardization and compartmentalization, where most locals aren't aware of what's happening, except for city managers in most cases, who are sent to the international conferences for training and orders.
And that's public, by the way.
All of this is done through the manuals.
It's a huge bureaucracy.
And the military has been running secret illegal operations like they would do with special ops and CIA and defense intelligence in the United States for more than 60, 70 years.
But it was done under the guise of anti-espionage, anti-terrorism.
We're good to go.
I think?
Thousands of police and troops and cutting to Iraq and making it all about the troops to glorify the war when the troops are against the war.
75% now.
It was 70% a year ago when the majority of the money is given to Ron Paul more than all the candidates combined.
You know, the FEC is reporting that now.
They make you think, oh, you stand up for the troops when you keep having the war.
And, oh, the troops.
Then the troops are finding out.
They have questionnaires in the Army, Marine Corps, everywhere now in those combat sectors.
And logistics sectors.
Will you fire on American citizens?
And that's been documented.
And if you say yes, the 20% or so, depending on the survey, but generally about 20% say yes, then you are kept here domestically.
And then you're inserted into the shadow government that's now not shadowed.
It's now uncloaked itself partially.
And if you say no, you are guinea pig with injections and shots and sent overseas.
And that's how they operate.
So there's been this creeping wickedness for martial law, and now openly, they set up NORTHCOM, openly with the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, they fund it and say, for martial law, for domestic insurgency, for rioting, for rebellion.
It says rebellion by the people.
That's not Al-Qaeda, folks.
That's us.
What are they planning to do?
Where they think there's going to be a rebellion of the American people.
When we get back, I'm going to bring you up to speed to the latest information.
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Before I get back into the martial law, military-industrial complex, control, and finally extermination grid, being lovingly crafted and built around you by the New World Order.
They hate you, but they love their system of control.
This gauntleted fist closing around our necks.
The good news is, though, it's the cat's out of the bag, and you've now been identified, and the troops are waking up.
They don't care, though.
They're now hiring mainly aggravated felons and illegal aliens.
That's now mainstream news.
I told you five years before it was in the news.
Nice other quasi-secret program.
By quasi-secret, it's just not discussed.
Before I do that, have you been to Infowars.com today?
We went ahead and launched it late last night at about, well, I guess this morning, about 1 a.m.,
I watched Curt and Wes put it up there, and the site is now up.
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We're testing it out.
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There's also going to be an upload and download area on it.
And blogs, just a lot of other things.
But you can go get a look at the new Infowars.com.
A lot of the subpages are still the old Infowars site, but those will be phased out in the next month or so.
Again, we're just testing this template right now.
Of course, the next few months, Prison Planet will convert over to this Web 2.5 or 3.0 type model, integrating it into a portal with all the basic user content generated systems to turn the power of the grassroots and the people loose.
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Other than that, it is a free-for-all in there at InfoWars.com right now.
Let me continue with the martial law.
So I've been to the drills with Marines who are training to take Americans and put them in camps and blow our heads off.
And we've got all the articles about how
People like Thomas Sanchez, Vietnam veteran in special ops, the emergency manager in Kingsville at the time, tells a local paper that he was approached about treading the public for martial law and was shown a semi-secret, as a more expansive, PDD-25 for gun confiscation, and he said he wasn't going to take part in it.
He was then overruled by the mayor of the town.
I went to interview the mayor.
He's a fighter ace from...
And I just thought it was all just absolutely wonderful, and the whole op was just great.
Delta Force unannounced after the town thought they weren't coming in.
Covertly leased the old police station three days after they moved out.
Delta Force in 99 came in and blew the building up 300 feet from Casa Ricardo.
People had heart attacks.
We went and covered that and interviewed them and showed what they'd gone through there.
And this was all to test how the public would respond.
And they told the public it was for drills for hostage rescue in foreign countries, which was also a dual use.
And I have no doubt that the Delta Force people, being brought in by the Night Stalkers out of Fort Campbell, Kentucky, believed that.
Because all of this is dual use.
When the Marines were in Oakland, California in 1999, saying this is for Kosovo, Iraq, they would then add to the press, and America, during disasters or terror attacks.
But that was for the media.
Then when you got into the actual training, it was for Americans.
Where are you from?
Well, I'm from right here in San Francisco.
It was actually in Oakland.
But, well, where'd you get the helmet?
Where'd you get the gun?
Interrogations, all of it.
And then they would catch us getting video.
And Mr. Jones was his name, the former Marine Corps officer who was there now, the civilian PR guy, would run up yelling at me.
So we had to insert camera people in the, quote, civilian tours.
They did this in a college campus.
The city of Oakland got to see the Coronado.
We're good to go.
Bush signed PDD 51 last year saying that the president is a dictator, that he's over Congress, and that Congress isn't involved in continuity of government.
The John Warren Defense Authorization Act, we already mentioned that.
So now it's not debatable.
You know, we told you about FEMA camps, and then now in January of 2006, it was in the Houston Chronicle and several other papers, they said, yeah, Halliburton's getting hundreds of millions of dollars to build one million person camps.
And it is for illegal aliens and citizens during emergencies.
Knowing that it's popular to go after the illegal aliens, 90 plus percent polls and 91 percent gallop, but not with citizens, so they mix the two in together.
Basic psychological tactic there.
We knew about the camps beforehand, not the rumors, not the photos, not the claims, or my brother's cousin said he saw the guillotines or the shackles in the trucks.
I don't know about all that.
I know that in 1986, a secret program on 12 Army bases began.
Formerly shut down bases.
They claim they shut them down in 86.
They turned them into Army prisons run federally with the states.
And then they would quietly transfer prisoners to them.
And then it was never in the press.
The entire project...
And by the way, these were labor camps.
These were prisoners.
And this was all done as a beta test.
The prisoners covertly signed agreements that they would have their sentences shortened if they would agree to labor.
Because, you know, in the old days, like Shawshank Redemption, that's based on true things that happened.
They would just use you as slaves, building roads, whatever, cutting citizens out of their jobs, undercutting people.
So that kind of got outlawed.
So then they say, well, if you want food that's decent to eat, you'll go work.
Or we'll commute your sentence if you do it.
Or if you'll work in the license plate factory or the furniture factory.
Now it's telecommunications and customer service.
All of that is going on.
So to beta test this and create cadres of troops that were trained to accept it, they told federal, state prisoners, both, well, we'll cut your sentence down.
You've got to agree to labor.
We're going to send you to these huge facilities, and we're going to have you engage in labor.
And it was bulletproof, vest factories, armament, parts, helmets, all of it.
And troops, the prison sector of the Army, ran this in secret until 1996.
See, that's the issue.
Secret was a test of secret camps.
They've done this with incredible crafting.
It's just incredible time, very slowly, again, it's red dawn in slow motion, a takeover of society.
You realize how secret, how illegal all this is.
Then, total violation of Posse Comitatus, the 1878 law, which they now haven't totally overthrown, but they're just operating as if it doesn't exist.
And they have, quote, amended it.
Quote, in terror attacks, but see, now it's for everything.
I'll never forget in Iowa, the newscast, what, in 2002,
And it showed troops at checkpoints helping the state police search cars for drunk drivers and drugs.
Or, out of North Carolina newscasts, this stuff leaks out.
But they're always saying it's good.
Oh, look, the troops are working with the local police for martial law to deal with the population.
See, this is all leaking out.
And in 96, the Army declassified, Congress decided to declassify, the Civilian Inmate Labor Camp Program.
We have copies of the cover letter on the Army website, army.mil, where it says all this in my book, 9-1-1 Descent into Tyranny.
And we have it right there with the URL.
And by the way, that's still up, and it's even bigger now on the Army website.
So instead of always saying, I heard a rumor there was a camp, why don't you get the Houston Chronicle?
Why don't you go to the Army website?
Give it to people.
Why not?
That's why this show's been successful, more than any other, quote, patriot or truth show.
Because we actually document what we talk about.
Now I blow my stack and freak out about it from time to time.
I guess it has a certain entertainment value.
But I actually get sick of doing this show and sick of talking about it.
I'm mad and I'm upset, folks.
This is serious.
And there's thousands of other points.
There's no way to cover it all.
But then in early 2006, Pastor Butch Paul, right here on this network, the Genesis Network, he was a pastor, had several pastors contacting.
One pastor went on air, very credible, big church in Ohio.
Another pastor went forth.
Sent me secret documents, and it was marked not for distribution.
Sent me these secret documents saying, we've recruited 13,000 pastors for emergency response, and it's in there.
How to tell folks to not fight back, turn their guns in, how to go to relocation centers, to take inoculations if you're ordered, to let them put women in one area of the camp and men in another, to put the children in another area, take your children.
And about a week after he came on the show and faxed me the documents, first place they came out, butch was nice enough to let me break the big story.
They came out here, and the pastor didn't fax it from his church, good-sized church.
That's who they go after is medium and big pastors, big churches.
He also worked at the hospital as the chaplain.
And they were sitting in the office.
They called him in, FEMA.
We're good to go.
The documents were laying on his desk when he got there, and they came in and said, get out of here.
And they threatened him, and he said he wouldn't say what else they said, and he wouldn't go on air.
Over a year later, in fact, I forgot, John, pull up the martial law out of Louisiana.
A year later, after we put those documents out and hundreds of emails saying they were fake, and we did Google searches and found a few mentions in the press and where FEMA was doing this, and it comes down, they go, yeah, it's nationwide, they're recruiting 26,000 preachers.
They're now doubling the number.
And we interviewed the parish emergency manager head over four parishes, and once I explained to him, he got freaked out, and he said, oh, now I see, oh, this is a bad idea.
Remember I had him on?
Now, again, that was secret.
There are troops everywhere, preachers everywhere, churches all over preaching this.
We're getting reports from everybody.
More documents flooding in.
You understand, this is a huge, covert intelligence operation, a dream to overthrow a country, where they control the government and they have decades to do it.
And decades to condition the public.
They're not trying it overnight.
They've got it all lined up, all set up.
9-11 was only the primer to start going public with this.
The next big event will be the one that brings it all into fruition.
We have new developments.
Those are coming up in one moment, but here's the newscast.
Law ever become a reality in America?
Some fear any nuclear, biological, or chemical attack on U.S.
territory might trigger just that.
And as KSLA News 12's Jeff Farrell discovered, the clergy would help the government with potentially their biggest problem.
From my cold, dead hands.
Charlton Heston's famous declaration captures a truly American value.
The overarching desire to protect our freedoms.
But gun confiscation is exactly what happened during the state of emergency following Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
troops also arrived, something far easier to do even now thanks to last year's elimination of the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act.
That forbid U.S.
troops from policing on American soil.
If martial law were enacted here at home, like depicted in the movie The Siege, easing public fears and quelling dissent would be critical.
And that's exactly what the Clergy Response Team, as it's called, helped accomplish in New Orleans.
Jeff, the primary thing that we say to anybody is, let's go out there and get this thing over with, and then we'll settle the differences once the crisis is over.
Such Clergy Response Teams would walk a tightrope between the needs of the government
Versus the wishes of the public.
In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they're helping to defuse that situation.
For the clergy, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or obey the law is the Bible itself.
Specifically, Romans.
Because the government has established all the law.
Romans 13.
You know?
And that's what we believe in the Christian faith.
That's what's stated in the scripture.
Civil rights advocates believe the amount of public cooperation may depend largely on how long they expect the suspension of their rights might last.
Jeff Farrell, KSLA News 12 reporting.
According to Tuberville, during Hurricane Katrina, the clergy response team provided 38 chaplains a day around the clock at eight different camps.
Now, while they're showing that, they cut in and out of New Orleans, and then they cut to New York from the Bruce Willis film, The Siege, where they're putting Americans in a sports stadium.
And families are being torn apart and people are crying.
They're showing you images of troops loading you on trucks.
Of troops putting you in sports stadiums.
And it's exactly what I told you.
It's 26,000 strong as of last year.
They now plan to double it again to 50,000.
2,000 of these people, and they're recruiting half a million, 400-something thousands, 460-something thousand.
They're going to double that number.
They did that last year, 400-something thousand truck drivers.
Now they're going to double that number up to almost a cool mil.
Right here in Austin, that's in Road to Tyranny.
In almost every other city, they're giving the kids $200 credit cards when they turn in family members.
That's a bonus cash.
I mean, this is textbook tyranny.
And it's not for terrorists.
It's, do mommy and daddy smoke marijuana?
Where are their guns?
All to have that data then fed to CPS so the kids can get CPSed.
The poor fools get $200, and then they get CPSed, or SWAT team hits them hard.
Austin police last month admitted what we've known for years.
It was a famous lady, I forget the term, for scientists that study fish.
She was like 89 years old, and at the time it happened, and they SWAT teamed her house, she had a bunch of fish tanks.
And they look at your bill, and you know how many people live in the house, and every city does it.
You're all being tracked, everything you do is being watched to see if you've got marijuana grow lights.
It's just all around us, ladies and gentlemen, and they're just waiting to go.
Mass arrests, lining us up, blowing our heads off.
Getting bulldozers pushing piles of dead bodies into pits?
I'm not going to stand by and take it.
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And how do we know they plan on killing masses of us?
It's come out in the Rocky Mountain News, other papers that...
The feds have paid for giant incinerators for tens of thousands of bodies a week.
You can't make that type of stuff up.
It's just the reality of what's going on, my friends.
I know most police don't want to be part of this.
Most military don't want to be part of this.
You've been incrementally trained and conditioned to accept all this.
We just don't have to go along with it.
The problem is, again, they're shifting into aggravated felons and illegal aliens for the force.
And that's what despots have always turned to, criminals and foreigners.
Why did I get into this 50-minute analysis and breakdown of the history, just some of it, for you?
Because I wanted to cover this new story by Paul Watson up on prisonplanet.com and infowars.com.
troops ask if they would shoot American citizens.
Iraq vet exposes how he was trained to round up Americans in martial law exercises.
Ask if he would kill his own friends and family.
Well, I've talked to a lot of Marines going back 20 years that they have the chance, and they say, would you kill your mother of order, too?
Would you do that for the Corps?
And then it's been in mainstream news about six years ago.
Alexander Cockburn wrote about it, L.A.
Times writer, about how the Marines have a new chant where they talk about have the schoolchildren gather around, throw the candy on the ground, have the little, mow the bastards down.
I mean, it's just...
It's not kill a commie anymore.
It's mow children down.
This is cult brainwashing.
Sleep deprivation, shaved heads, being screamed at, killed children.
This is what's happened, ladies and gentlemen.
troops are being trained to conduct roundups, confiscate guns, and shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members, as part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.
Again, this is an email.
We've confirmed the individual.
But the point is that it doesn't matter.
I already have all this mainstream.
I videotaped Marines training to do this.
We received an email from Scott, a member of the Pipefitters Union that runs an apprenticeship program called Helmets to Hardhats, which according to its website is a national program that connects National Guard, Reserve, and transitioning active duty military members with quality career training and employment opportunities within the construction industry.
Scott writes that his company hired a soldier who had recently returned from Iraq who told them that the U.S.
troops were being quizzed on whether they or not they'd be prepared to shoot their own friends and family members during a national state of emergency in America.
We should add Private Gruckheimer.
Remember in the Ithaca Journal in 2002, he came back and bragged about how they go into villages and line up the women and children and shoot them?
And then Fox News had a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff want to go, well, we want to clarify.
Those are in certain combat areas.
We do kill everyone.
I have become very close to this young man and have gained his respect and trust, writes Scott.
I want you to know that he has informed me about one particular training exercise his superiors made them perform.
It was concerning the roundup of American citizens that disobey any type of martial law or, in other words, any type of infringement on their freedoms.
And this is all in John Warren's Defense Authorization Act.
I would add, he was asked if he would shoot his friends or family members.
In order to do so, at the end of it, he said, at the time he said he could, writes Scott.
Scott says the soldier later had time to clear his head and realize the truth, recanting his vow to kill his own countrymen of order to do so.
The issue of whether U.S.
troops would be prepared to round up, disarm if necessary, shoot Americans who disobey orders during a state of martial law is a question that military chiefs have been attempting to answer for 15 years.
Its known origins can be traced back to the October 94 Marine Questionnaire,
Out of the 29 Palms base in California, recruits were asked 46 questions, including whether they would kill U.S.
citizens who refused to surrender their firearms.
Documentary filmmaker Alex Jones brought to light similar training programs that were taking place across the country in the 90s, which revolved around U.S.
Marines being trained to arrest American citizens and take them to internment camps.
During one such program in Oakland, California, the Operation Urban Warrior, Marines refused to answer if they would target American citizens for gun confiscation in order to do so.
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Finishing up what I was covering in the last hour, the modern history of the martial law control grid being put into place.
Talking about Marines being trained to confiscate your guns along with the Army.
During Hurricane Katrina, that was a laboratory experiment for martial law, National Guard units were ordered to confiscate guns belonging to New Orleans residents.
As we first exposed in May of 2006, clergy response teams are being trained by the federal government in FEMA to quell dissent and pacify citizens to obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.
Pastors and other religious representatives are being taught to become secret police enforcers, and it is secret until now, to teach their congregations to obey the government in preparation for the implementation of martial law.
Property and firearm seizures, mass vaccinations programs, and forced relocation.
Many scoffed at our original story, which was based on the testimony of a whistleblower who was asked to participate in the program.
A pastor claims that the story was a conspiracy theory evaporated a year later when KSLA News and other news outlets now reported and confirmed the existence of the program.
For martial law, by the way.
Exactly as we told you, because we had the FEMA documents.
Now you think about how they sent feds to track down where this pastor faxed this stuff.
We were lazy.
He told me he didn't care.
Oh, it's fine.
It's a little shop down here.
He sent us hundreds of these things, and I said, well, don't you want us to get where this was faxed from off here?
No, no, you don't need to Photoshop that.
You know, just go ahead and... It's just so sick.
The experiences of U.S.
troops in the worst areas of Iraq, where soldiers are ordered to go door-to-door and arrest all men of military age, as well as confiscate their weapons, is a mere portent of what is being planned for America if these training programs ever come to fruition.
And this is a massive gearing up of all of this, and now codifying into the defense appropriations for 2008-2009.
Paul, this is such an important article, you need to go add it.
I know you're doing a great job doing two people's jobs.
We need to go add PDD 51 and all the rest of it.
People will read this and think it's an exaggeration.
Every claim is documented.
This article is actually, as scary as it is, is nothing.
It's nothing.
It took me an hour to just hit on a few facets that I have witnessed with my own eyeballs.
And I have documents on all of it.
Or videotape.
People were so freaked out in 2000, 1999, when Police Day 2000 came out, that I got scores of emails, calls,
Saying those aren't real Marines.
And my friend Rick Lake, letter director, laughed.
He said this would cost me $25, $50, $100 million to make.
Giant trip-carrying ships, hovercraft, scores and scores of helicopters and warrior fighting vehicles, thousands of troops.
Oh, I forgot there were foreign troops there, too.
Israeli, French, Dutch, British, Aussies.
Then we have all the declassified documents, how they plan to use foreign troops as this thing deepens.
In fact, pull up Shattered Union.
It kind of follows along with this.
We'll play that coming out of the next break.
This is what they're conditioning the kids with the video games with.
They want it all.
They want it now.
In their eugenicists, they like to kill.
Governments on average, in fact, 99% of the time, are mass killers.
Mad dog killers in history.
And I'm sorry to have to bring you this type of news.
This is what I live with every day, knowing it's real, knowing it's true, knowing it's happening all around us.
Knowing that they want to set off a nuke or release a biological weapon and bring in martial law and use it as a cover to arrest hundreds of thousands of people who haven't gone along with them.
But still hundreds of thousands more who own property.
See, a lot of you think you're good old boys.
You think you're part of the system.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This is done so they can take your car dealerships, take your brokerage firms, take your yacht clubs, take your golf courses, take your wives.
That's how tyranny works, is the whole system gets to feed on you.
And all the minions who join up and serve it get cold from time to time as well, but they don't care.
They get to take you into their dungeons and cut your fingers off and rip your teeth out and electrocute you and rape children and do all the things they like.
This is just what a psychopath sets up.
Psychopaths get control.
They set up a wonderland.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
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That is the highwayman, Silver Stallion.
You know, that little video game promotion piece for Shattered Union, they are planning and training, going back to the 60s, to use foreign troops in different sectors of the country.
That's declassified.
They signed, in 2002, public agreements to use Mexican troops in the United States, and they conditioned you with New Orleans, having them in Texas.
And, of course, in Louisiana and surrounding areas of Mississippi, as if the U.S.
couldn't have soup kitchens out there.
Dutch AWACS were used.
British AWACS, just like they were on 9-11.
And they have made every preparation to decapitate Congress.
There's a lot of evidence that's what they're planning when they move with this martial law.
You see, people ask why they haven't killed me.
It's like deer hunting.
The doe, the female...
Has figured out after generations, they're very intelligent, that the hunters aren't after them.
And so they come out into the oak patch, they come out into the meadow, they come out in the opening first, then their fawn will come out and eat with them right at dawn, and then she'll run on across, and if it's cold weather and the buck's rutting, he won't be able to control himself, even though he smells you, even though he feels you in his sixth sense, and he'll go ahead and bolt, he'll run.
Now, a young stupid one will come right out, but you're not looking for that little rack.
You're not looking for that little, little trophy.
No, the big one, he can't help himself.
He wants her.
He's going to come running full speed across those 50 yards, and you've got to be waiting, knowing he's in the woods, and you've got to wait until he goes right in your field of view, and you've got to squeeze the trigger.
You think they're going to kill a little crooked four-point like me, a little nothing, a little scraggly,
Two-year buck?
Out there in the oak patch with the dough?
No, they want them all.
They want to take every buck in the forest.
They want those stupid congressmen that have sold out to them.
They want those senators.
They want the billionaires.
They want everybody that's served them.
That's what this is about.
They don't want to scare people and kill me and have you look into the claims I've made.
They want to take us all and take us fast.
They've been lining up for decades, setting it all up, administration to administration.
It makes the operations where they overthrew Iran and Guatemala and a hundred other countries look tame.
And while they've been setting all this up and these new industries are tearing it up, they have the federal funds that go to those industries go right directly into their own pockets.
So they make trillions of dollars while they're at it setting this sucker up.
They mean business.
They're smart.
They're evil.
They're focused.
You know, before the break, I talked about them cutting people's fingers off.
I talked about them killing people, electrocuting them, raping their wives and children in front of them.
That's the Army's own report out of Abu Ghraib.
Another Army report admits 97% of those taken to the 30-plus camps in Iraq.
And in some cases out of country for torture and third-party black sites, ghost sites, ghost detainees.
They take them out and they torture them.
And it's about creating cadres of men and women that will carry out the torture.
It's about preparing.
And I can't even mention on air with the Army Report the other things it talks about.
What they do with acid sexually.
Raping people with acid.
You think that's in Saw 5 or whatever, Saw 4?
You go see these movies like Hostel where the rich guys like to get the little girls and torture them, rip their eyeballs out.
That's what they really do.
It's been in the French press.
And then the police shut down the investigations.
You're dealing with the absolute pit of living hell.
And I know this is one of the most hardcore broadcasts I've done.
It's because that's the type of evil that the globalists, that the New World Order, that the Bush administration is doing.
Remember in 2001, 2002, when they thought they had you sold on all this?
Remember how they got on the news and admitted the torture?
And first they tell you they're only listening to Bin Laden's phone calls, and then it's al-Qaeda's phone calls, and then it's just terrorist suspects' phone calls, then it's all criminals' phone calls, and then it's, yeah, we're listening to all your cell phones and tracking everybody with AI keyword computers.
In the stretch of just two years, they now admit it all.
They're just flaunting it.
They're now engaging it.
They're now quadrupling every year the funding for it.
All of this is now in play.
The juggernaut that they built, this mechanized, thousand-turreted killing machine with spiked treads greased with the blood of humanity, drunk on the blood of the saints, running off the blood of good people, is now fired up its engine.
It's running on all billion cylinders and it's starting to roll.
It's starting to roll at our gates.
And their enemies are within our gates and they're lowering the drawbridge, welcoming their God in.
And I see it straight on.
I look right into its eyes.
I know what it is.
Believe me, I take no pleasure in having to face it down.
I take no pleasure in having to commit to fight it.
I take no pleasure in enjoyment in having to engage it.
But I am committed and I will give every bit of the strength I have and every bit of the strength the Creator gives me to have the fortitude and the courage and the strength and the wisdom to do the best job I can in resistance to this system.
I was put on earth for a reason.
Every single one of you were put on earth for a reason.
We're only here once.
And you've got to serve somebody.
It's like Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson say, you've got to serve somebody.
You may be a baker.
You may be a banker.
But you've got to serve somebody.
Let's come back in with that.
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You know, I love y'all.
And I love illegal aliens.
They're good people.
They're just being used as a tool by the New World Order to bring down the Republic.
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And the Rex 84 plan said they plan to put a lot of them in camps first so the public is sold on camps.
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and Mexico covering that before, so they're pretty smart.
In fact, more informed in many cases than Americans because they've been living under tyranny.
I think as Bob Dylan's song says it all, we're going to play part of it, come back and get into more news.
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But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
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Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord, but you're going to have to serve somebody.
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Money doesn't just come out of women in a cage.
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Here is some of the other news now that we have not detailed yet while we're waiting for Benton to call in in the next ten minutes.
CNN is acting like they've broken some huge report.
They're talking about the 9-11 Commission being compromised.
And they wouldn't be reporting on this, their Defense Department run, unless they're going to try to act like they're going to do some new investigation and then whitewash that even further and say, okay, the government screwed up.
Book, head of 9-11 panel, has friends in White House.
AP, the September 11th Commission's executive director has closer ties to the White House than publicly disclosed.
And tried to influence the final report in ways that the staff often perceived as limiting the Bush administration's responsibility.
And Newbrook says, again, that's meant to make it sound like they were actually a real commission.
Bush appointed the head of the Democrat and Republican side of it.
It was all Bush appointed.
He tried to have Henry Kissinger as the first head.
So this is him acting like it was a real commission.
This is trying to sure up that commission.
Philip Zelikow, who you've heard about here a million times...
Philip Zelikow, a friend of then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, spoke with her several times during the 20-month investigation.
He's a former White House guy.
He's involved in all sorts of black ops that closely examined her role in assessing the al-Qaeda threat.
Remember her lying and saying they never heard of a plane to fly planes into buildings?
And the memo said exactly that.
He also exchanged frequent calls with the White House, including at least four with Karl Rove, Bush's chief political advisor at the time.
The commission's executive director once tried to push through wording in a draft report that suggested a greater time between al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and Iraq in line with the White House claims, but not with the commission's staff viewpoint, according to Philip Shindon's The Commission, The Uncensored History of the 9-11 Investigation.
Shannon, a New York Times reporter, same paper that tells you about aluminum tubes and yellow cake, says, Zelikow sought to intimidate staff to avoid damaging findings from President Bush, who at the time was running for re-election, said Rice, Zelikow said Rice had written a book together in 1995, and he would later work for her, that the commission finished its job, and she became Secretary of State in 2005.
The Associated Press obtained an audio version of Shannon's book, which is to go on sale tomorrow.
And we'll try to get this guy on.
But, I mean, the point is, we now need to use this to point out the whole thing was a fraud.
They wouldn't believe us when we had all the documents and facts.
But now you can show this to people.
Even though it's a whitewash, it's certainly useful to get the truth out.
You know, it sounds good to have socialized health care, doesn't it?
Help everybody.
We're just going to take care of everybody.
The problem is a bunch of eugenicists and control freaks...
Run the government, run the CDC, run the World Health Organization.
And now in England where they've done this, they're saying once the government controls it, we're just not going to give old people care.
Or if you're overweight, or if you ever smoke cigarettes, or you ever drink.
And then now Mississippi's coming out saying they want to pass a law
Where if you look like you're overweight, they won't let you in the building.
And if you demand it, this is under restaurant licensing.
It sounds good.
Hey, make sure the restaurant's clean.
Make sure they don't serve Jack Daniels to 12-year-olds.
But see, once they have that power, that precedent set, then they say, oh, we're not going to give service to people that are overweight.
Now, that's the bill.
It's mainstream news.
There's similar things going on, thousands of things along those lines, and they're CPSing people's kids in public school.
They say you have one year to lose weight, and they set the bar really high.
You've got to be really skinny.
Or then the CPS starts looking into taking you from your parents, and they can use some example of a 10-year-old who weighs 400 pounds.
You know, sounds good, but it's for control.
It's like, oh, we don't want to have light bulbs that burn out in a month or six months.
We're going to have light bulbs that burn out in eight years.
That matter of their toxic waste sounds reasonable.
They set the precedent.
Very sophisticated three-dimensional thinking and propaganda.
Or, oh, we want to take power in California.
The government's going to, by law, they're on the verge of passing the bill.
It has a lot of sponsors.
A radio transmitter in your thermostat.
You want to sell it in California?
They set the standards for the rest of the country.
On emissions, you name it.
Even more than New York now.
And then nationwide, oh, because if the company's going to have to put a little remote control transmitter to be controlled by the power pole in the California systems, why not in yours?
Just like guns, where it'll individually stamp on each casing the gun it was fired from.
Now that's going to go in nationwide because California did it.
Again, sounds good.
Oh, let's stop people overusing their thermostats, and then it'll be your sprinklers and everything else.
The total nanny state.
Coming into position now.
And this is just the beginning.
Remember, one-child policy in China started as a fine for more than one child.
A couple years later, an even bigger fine.
And by 1981, they would take your child.
They would kill your child.
They would imprison you.
They would kill you.
They'd drown the babies right in buckets of water in front of their parents.
Now they just take them and they disappear.
They're used for medical experiments.
Hellish stuff going on in China.
But our government doesn't say they're bad anymore.
You notice that?
China's good.
They get the Olympics.
But I guess Hitler got the Olympics, so it's okay.
According to their twisted logic, you can be as evil as you want to be, it doesn't matter.
The State Department eight years ago would criticize China for forced organ harvest, killing political dissidents.
Two years ago, they put out a report saying it's fake.
None of it's happening.
It's a matter of the Chinese government advertises, and it's all over the news.
The State Department's now an agent of total wickedness.
They're engaged in organ harvesting in...
Iraq and Afghanistan, flying those out.
They've been caught doing that.
Just every ghoulish, macabre evil.
It's as if hell itself was opened up and released.
Speaking of socialist control, Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay, AP, by Charles Babington.
Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve...
Coverage for all Americans.
The New York Senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage.
See, universal coverage means they're going to take that money forcibly, a whole new tax system.
Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but now she said that it would be going after wages.
Quote, automatic...
This week she said, I think there are a number of mechanisms that are possible, including going after people's wages, automatic enrollment.
See, and then you've got to have automatic transfer because we can't let you have your own cash because you might spend it on your own.
And see, with the new national sales tax, they have phony conservatives pushing.
Now you'll have to scan it because it's going to be graduated.
You go, well, that's not what Neil Bortz says.
He says it'll be this way.
It isn't going to be what he's calling for.
I've been saying this for 10 years.
You see it all happening?
You're starting to get an idea of how big all of this is?
And there are a lot of other facets to this as well.
There's so many instances, so many examples, but we know in Canada, we know in England, we know in New Zealand, where they have these systems in place now, they're just telling old people, hey, you don't deserve that surgery, you're old.
See, first it's, oh, you're overweight, oh, you drank, oh, you shouldn't get a liver.
Sounds reasonable.
Then, oh, you're old, you're not going to get it.
Oh, and now you can't say mom and dad in school, the teachers, the students, whoever, because it's hurtful.
See, now regular, normal words.
First it was, well, let's ban and arrest somebody if they say the N-word.
Sounds reasonable.
That's hurtful.
But wait, we said that's free speech, though.
You take that, you take it all.
See, now it's happening.
They arrest you in England if you say any racial slur or sexual slur, including the word homosexual.
Whether you're for that or against it isn't the issue.
The point is now you're arrested for that.
They arrested a BBC reporter.
There's big public events because they say the word homosexual, heterosexual, homosexual.
That's just a scientific term.
Like saying Caucasian.
No, don't say that because it hurts people.
They get scared by scientific sounding terms.
That sounds like idiocracy where if you know a big word, they arrest you.
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That, by the way, got suppressed.
We need to get Judge on.
I know he's a fan and I've talked to him.
I can't ever... I need to call and get his number.
Get him on.
That's a great film.
That's an interesting message.
These are just some of the issues that we're dealing with.
And everybody out there
Got really upset Wednesday, Thursday, Friday when three huge cables in deep ocean areas were accidentally cut.
And there's hundreds of these cables in the Med and the Persian Gulf surrounding areas.
But magically, these cables got cut going into two countries.
Iran and guess who else?
We're about to do a peace deal together after decades of being in each other's throats.
Three internet cables slash in a week.
Has Iran lost all Internet connectivity?
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Oh, it just keeps cutting cables, cutting cables, cutting cables.
According to InternetTraffic.com, Iran has been completely cut off from the internet, though Mohammed Ahmadinejad's block can still be accessed.
And that weirdo called for world government last week.
Again, it's just all these government heads.
They just want global power.
They're all fighting over who's going to get it, but
And then CNN and Fox say there's no move towards a global government.
You know, Benton called us and wanted to pop in with a Super Tuesday report.
We're going to go to break.
When we come back, we've got other stuff we've got to do.
Do you have him yet?
We may have to schedule him.
I know tomorrow is Super Tuesday.
I know he gets caught up in time zones and stuff, but we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens.
I wanted to get more than a five-minute report from him.
He wanted to come on in the third hour, but we can't do that because we have a guest.
But yeah, big Super Tuesday coming up.
Big deal.
Very, very big deal, and we'll see what happens.
Some are saying Ron Paul could take Washington State.
Some people are saying, I mean, he just got third place, a close third place in Maine.
He's a major contender.
And if he got fair media coverage, I'm going to have to tell you that he'd be the man, or there wasn't fraud in all these states where he got first place in Louisiana, and they just said he got second place, or he got second place in Nevada, and they said he didn't get any place.
But it's now our job to expose that and show the dumbed-down public.
They're not even so much dumbed down.
They are from the fluoride and things.
They are super experts on football, super experts on how that's the manly thing to do,
But they don't, and it'd be fine if they knew about football, but also knew about the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
But they don't know about both.
They're not aware of both, and they need to be.
You know, we have redesigned InfoWars.com.
It's going to have your own MySpace-style accounts by the end of the week.
Right now, we're just testing bandwidth and servers.
You can post in all the stories and
And you have your own blogs.
A lot of those functions are already there at thenewinfowars.com.
There's still some of the old pages.
We're replacing those.
Archived news stories will still be there in the old format, but all the main subpages, the listen page and the video page and the police state page, there's over 50 or 60 of them that Kurt has looked at that he's redesigning and is transferring the data over into the blog format.
I just want to say, Kurt,
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And that's why Endgame, that proves there's a global government, proves their master plan, how they want to reduce world population forcibly, that's why it's for free on Google Video.
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How dare you be against the war?
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They are really angry with you, but 70 plus percent say they want out instantly.
They want the war over a year and a half ago, and that number's gone up to 75 percent.
Polls were at 71.
So you've got less than 30 percent of the troops who like the war.
But you wouldn't know that if you watched the Super Bowl last night.
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We'll be talking about the war coming up in the next hour.
We're talking about a bunch of other really important issues.
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But I have to tell you, this is the most excited I've ever been.
To have a guest on, he's with us for the full hour.
He's in Tucson, Arizona.
He just played the Super Bowl pregame last night.
He is a global icon, an American institution.
There's probably nothing more.
In fact, they've had polls overseas of Europeans, Asians, others, and they say, you know, who's Americana?
What symbolizes America in Texas?
And it's Willie Nelson.
But it's not just his music that I grew up listening to and that I love.
We're good to go.
I think?
Obi-Wan Kenobi level zen-ness.
It's not an act.
He's an incredible person.
I'm not going to gush.
He doesn't like it.
Willie Nelson, thank you for spending time with myself and the audience.
Well, thank you, Alex.
No, no, I was enjoying that introduction.
Thank you.
Well, you deserve every bit of it, sir.
Thank you.
I'm glad to be on your show.
I'm a big fan and have been for years, and I've watched your videos and listened to you on radio, and I'm always checking in to see what you're doing and
You're doing a great job.
It humbles me.
That's amazing.
I better do a really good job of Willie Nelson's tuning in along with the Japanese Parliament every day.
Willie, this is a quick segment.
We're going to come back in a long 20-minute segment.
But, you know, I asked you before the interview, I said, what do you want to talk about?
And you said, whatever you want to get into.
Let's talk about some fun stuff first.
Tell me about what the band's doing, your new song, Gravedigger.
What's going on?
Well, we have this new album that's out.
It's called Moment of Forever, and it's a song that Chris wrote.
And it's probably the greatest love song I've ever heard.
And then we've got a couple of videos coming out of the album.
The Grave Diggers won.
And then we did another video that's coming out in a couple of months.
We did it down at my ranch there in Texas, out there in Texas.
There's a video with me and Jessica Simpson and Owen Wilson and Woody Harrelson and all the Wilson boys and Ray Price and Johnny Bush.
And we just had a big crowd down there in town and we had a lawnmower race.
I wish you'd have been there.
You'd have had a lot of fun.
I actually heard about it from Turk Pibkin and other people.
But anyway, that's what we're into.
We're out here doing a couple of songs off the album every night.
You've got quite a few websites.
What are some of the sites people can visit to see your latest info?
Well, there's willianelson.com, and my daughter does a column every day to tell everybody what we're into out here.
And there's the willianelsonpri.com, which is a website set up.
I did it originally to try to organize all the peace organizations in the world.
And we did a pretty good job of doing that, I think, because there's a whole lot of networking going on there about people talking about peace.
And then I wrote this song with my daughter Amy called Peaceful Solution.
And I put the song on the website and told people they could record it, rewrite it, or sing it, or put their band behind it.
I just gave them the song, basically.
And so far, over 100 people have recorded that song and videoed it.
And the University of Texas did two videos on it.
Go ahead, Willie.
I'm just fooling around.
Well, it's fantastic.
All of it.
It seems like your music just gets better and better.
You are a driven individual, and that's what I want to ask you when we get back.
What drives Willie Nelson?
What does Willie Nelson think is most important in this world?
What is your philosophy summed up?
I know your book that I read just last week, The Tao of Willie, is amazing, and I learned a lot from it.
We'll talk about that.
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He is counted among the top country legends, music legends, political activist legends, pretty much the icon of music.
And he is quite a survivor.
Willie Nelson, again, thank you for being with us.
I wanted to throw out that question, I mean, about your life growing up.
What made you the way you are?
Why you've always stood up for the little guy, the farmers, and people in Africa, and just so many others?
Why did you go in that direction in your life?
Well, you know, I don't really know, except the fact that I was... I grew up in a town in Abbott, Texas.
It was a little small community farm town.
And I knew everybody in town.
Everybody knew me.
We had three or four churches there, four churches, so...
In one way or another, you went to church every day and every night of your life.
And I learned, if I learned anything, I learned that all those places, you know, sometimes the Baptists wouldn't talk to the Methodists, or the Church of Christ wouldn't talk to the Catholics.
But they were all trying to do the same thing, and they were just divisions, even in that small town.
When did you start your first band?
Before I got out of high school, I started a band with me and my sister and my brother-in-law and my football coach.
He played trombone.
We had a little family band.
We played all over Texas.
We played in Waco and West.
Places that we could drive to with a trailer.
Didn't you start out in radio by 16 or 17?
You already had your own show?
Yeah, I was with KHBR in Hillsborough, and we got our own radio show there every Saturday.
And then after that, I went to the Air Force and then went down to Pleasanton, Texas, and went to work at KOB Pleasanton down there, and then I worked several other radio stations, and at the same time playing bars around trying to make it.
It's amazing.
Well, you certainly did make it a long career.
You've been out, what, on the road and playing since, what, 54, 55, earlier?
Yeah, at least at 49, when I graduated from high school.
I was already in a band then.
So, 49.
Shifting gears, again, we're talking to Willie Nelson.
First of all, it all happened... The Dixie Chicks was overseas when they said what they said that seemed to have upset everybody.
I was overseas, too, at a press conference.
I guess they had it in for the Dixie Chicks more than they did me.
I don't know, because they had every reason in the world to get on me, also.
They're afraid of you.
They knew it wouldn't fly.
But they said, you know, what about this crazy cowboy from Texas you got running?
Well, I don't know.
I said, first of all, he's not a cowboy.
Second of all, he ain't from Texas.
So, you know, let's start there.
And, I mean, I make the point that they backed off from you because I don't think that they could chew up Willie Nelson.
I think they tried to pick on the Dixie Chicks, but it seemed that that backfired on them.
Well, it did, and it took a while, and the chicks had to go through some uncomfortable times, but, you know, they're tough, and they came out on the other side of it really looking great, and they're more popular now than they were then, and a lot of it's because of that.
So, you know, I don't know whether they'd rather have done that way or not, but at least they said what they thought, and they stuck with it, and I think their last record was, you know, we're not ready to make knives yet.
Not ready to play nice, not ready to go along with this.
I'm mad as hell, and I'm just going to continue doing the right thing.
And that's why they're becoming even bigger icons.
Willie, your take on the war.
I mean, you were there from day one saying it was bad.
Now, 80% of Americans...
It was always a bad idea.
You just don't start wars.
Again, it goes back to whatever I learned in Abbott, Texas.
You just don't kill people.
There's something in the Bible that says thou shalt not kill.
There's also a lot of things in there about peace on earth.
I grew up believing that way.
Then all of a sudden I found out there are huge organizations out there that are starting wars.
And selling bullets to both sides, and I said, what the hell is going on?
What happened to peace on Earth?
Well, you brought up a key there.
Can you elaborate on your take on big organizations selling to both sides?
Because that's the key here.
The humanity, the humans, the children, the people that die that have their countries bombed out, the Americans that are taxed to pay for it all, and the no-bid contracts, humanity loses, but these kingpins, they win.
Yeah, and they've been winning ever since...
You know, in the Old Testament it talked about war.
There will always be wars and rumors of wars.
But in the new one it said, let's talk about peace.
And then there's going to be some peace.
And I believe that eventually there's going to be peace on earth.
And it's those other bastards that are getting in the way of it.
So what do we do about them, Alex?
Well, I have to say this.
I do interviews every day on other people's talk shows, even confrontational interviews, adversarial interviews, and they'll take 10, 20 calls, and the 20 calls, 19 people agree with me while the neocon or right-wing host is attacking me because I come to it from a libertarian perspective, and it just neutralizes them.
Now, five, six years ago, that wasn't happening.
It was half and half.
And I'm seeing a total shift.
But also in the polls.
But now both parties have circled the wagons against the people, and they're saying, we don't care what you want.
John McCain said this war is going to go on for 100 years.
Yeah, and it can't.
It just can't.
We can't let it go on another year.
The other day I was getting interviewed, and somebody said, what would you do if you were elected president?
I said, I would stop the damn war.
And it's just that simple.
You stop that war, you stop the other wars that we're in around the country, and you go around the country being a peacemaker and stopping wars.
I thought that's what you're supposed to do.
Since when does America invade all these countries that have nothing to do with 9-11?
Yeah, really.
And all of a sudden, you know, the way I heard it, there was 15 people from Saudi Arabia hit us in New York, and we go jump on Afghanistan.
I never could figure that one out in Iraq.
Well, I did figure it out, too, but I'm surprised more people haven't figured it out.
Willie, you brought it up.
You figured it out.
What's your take on 9-11?
It just came out in AP today that the White House was running the commission.
We always knew that, but now they admit.
In fact, I have the headline right here.
I read it before you came on, where they're now admitting that it was a staged commission.
Well, that ain't good news, but it doesn't surprise me.
Did it use?
No, it didn't.
I'm glad it's coming out.
What's your take on 9-11?
Do you question the official story?
I certainly do, and I saw those towers fall, and I've seen an implosion in Las Vegas.
There was too much similarities between the two.
And I saw the building fall.
It didn't get hit by nothing.
So, you know, how naive are we?
What do they think we'll go for?
So are you saying you started having questions or that little voice in your head?
I mean, did you have a bad feeling the day it happened?
Is that what you're saying?
The day it happened, I saw one fall, and it was just so symmetrical.
I said, wait a minute, I just saw that last week at the casino over in Las Vegas, and you see these implosions all the time, and the next one fell, and I said, hell, there's another one.
And they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it.
And that's, you know, I can't go along with that.
And then you find out that mainstream news reported, but it never got any attention, that the supposed hijackers were given national security clearance and were trained at U.S.
bases, and the dean of the Defense Language School, Colonel Butler, goes public and says, we train these people, the government's involved, and they start court-martialing until he agreed to shut up.
True story, I guess.
I hate to hear it, but it's probably true.
You've had a chance to see what Terror Storm, Endgame, some of the other films.
What's Willie Nelson's take on those films?
Oh, I think they're right on.
I think, you know, the fact that there are a few elite that are running everything, calling the shots, starting the wars, financing them all, I believe that.
And what else they're doing, who knows?
But that one thing alone is enough for us to think about how do we stop them.
Well, the proof is in the pudding.
If you've got on every issue, 75 to 85, in all the major scientific polls, the people are against everything this government's doing.
We send the Democrats to Congress to end the war.
They increase it.
And now they're saying they're going to be there 100 years, Hillary and McCain.
I mean, to me, that is a small group running things right there in province.
And as far as I can see, all those people attended the same meetings that you and the guys attended up in Canada.
Am I wrong?
A lot of them do go to the Bilderberg Group.
Oh, no.
Yes, sir.
Is that freedom?
I don't think so.
It's not democracy either.
Willie Nelson, you're blowing me away here.
When we get back, I want to talk about solutions, your ideas, because the people are awake to a certain extent.
I just don't think that they have the specifics of what to do.
I want to tell them about some of your organizations and groups.
I agree with taking...
We're good to go.
I think?
We'll be right back.
The song that I wrote called Peaceful Solution, now all those people that recorded it believe, and so do I, that there is a peaceful solution.
And it's called a peace revolution.
And we just take back America.
And we do it, vote it back, we do it, we make sure that the crooked ballot boxes are thrown away, we get a paper trail and everything, and make sure that
People can get back in control, and that's the only way we're going to do it, is to just do it.
Good on it.
You know what I mean?
Well, I think that's happening.
Just in the news today, we're seeing that they've recruited 26,000 preachers the White House has through FEMA to tell their flocks to stand down, to turn in their guns, to follow orders, to do what the President says in the Presidential Decision Directive 51.
Bush says he's above the Congress.
It's no longer involved in continuity of government in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
No, and I do believe that it's a long time until Election Day and some sort of national crisis could put off the elections.
And we could have George in there 10 years longer.
A lot of people are saying that.
I was saying that many years ago, and now Bob Woodward's talked about how they're setting up for martial law, of all people.
Naomi Wolf is talking about it.
I think that might save us.
I'm seeing a...
I would hope that we'd be smarter than that, and I would hope that we'd say, no, we're throwing all you guys out and we're starting over.
You can stop the elections if you want to, but you can't stop the people.
Well, Ron Paul has gotten more donations from...
Well, again, the troops are under orders, and if they don't do what the orders are, then they get shot.
So the troops have no choice.
There's a few of them in there that are there because they think it's the right thing to do.
There are a few there because they just like to fight.
But there's a lot of them, like you say, that would rather be home with their families and let's save our good men and women for something that really matters, for really something that is the defense of our country.
If we need some people down here on the borders, let's take 150,000 people out of Iraq and put them on the borders of Canada and Mexico.
We can secure our borders that way.
Well, how do we have this war on terror where there's an Al-Qaeda terrorist under every bed, under every table?
We've got to have checkpoints and kids getting thumb scanned to get their lunches to stop Al-Qaeda, but then the border's wide open.
That kind of makes the war on terror look like a fraud.
Well, yeah, and, you know, they're fighting over there because you remember the old joke about the guy that dropped a quarter and he was looking around and the guy said, where did you lose it?
I said, I lost it over yonder.
And he said, why are you looking over here for?
I said, well, I call the lights better.
I think that's why they're over there.
The light's better.
Well, it's a black hole to launder money and dump trillions of dollars in no-bid contracts to Halliburton.
Yeah, and there's nobody stopping it.
And as long as it keeps going on and nobody stops it, I don't know what the end result will be.
It can't be good for us.
Well, you're right.
Tyrants have known throughout history.
They keep pushing.
They keep testing.
Tyranny doesn't come overnight.
And I hope a lot of people that support this war, I hope you know, we have illegal wars not declared, torture, the rest of it.
None of us are safe here.
What comes around goes around.
You reap what you sow, don't you, Willie?
Ten times over, I remember it.
And I'm not sure I want to get treated ten times as bad as we're treating other people.
Did you ever see the actual Army reports?
MSNBC posted it, but then never covered it, with what the actual torture was, not just those photos.
I mean, it reported they tortured people's children in front of their parents.
No, I didn't hear that.
Did you see the report about them raping the women inside the camps?
Well, that one doesn't surprise me, but torturing them in front of their family, I didn't know...
We did that.
Yeah, if you want, I can email you some of the mainstream stories.
They had a CIA section chief in the Washington Post say, yeah, we tortured their children in front of the parents to get answers.
Well, I don't understand it.
I think the establishment is trying to seduce our troops into evil, but again, I think they're throwing it back up at them.
Well, I think so.
This can't happen because everyone is an individual.
We all have our free will, and God gives us the freedom to use it.
So no matter where we are or what we're doing, if we know it's wrong, we should not do it.
Well, for anybody that wants the report, it was a Filipino-American general, two-star General Tugumbu, was hired to run the report on 30-plus camps in Iraq, and that was the findings.
For anybody that wants to go check that, those are amazing claims, but they are true.
Speaking of an individual like George Bush and these elitists that are puppeteering him,
How do you think they sleep at night, Willie?
Because somebody like you or myself, we have a conscience, and I love my conscience.
It's my greatest possession.
And I wonder about psychopaths sometimes, how they just enjoy evil.
Well, you know, I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up with a lot of people who really are... You have to doubt if they have a conscience.
And I know they're all over the world, so I'm not surprised that people can...
It's a power trip, isn't it?
Well, where I'm from, my dad is from two counties over to the east.
That's where our family's been since 1829 with Spanish land grants.
And then my mom's family were German immigrants in the 1840s to right around Austin and surrounding areas.
So I am really proud to be a Texan because you're a Texan, Willie.
All the way through.
You know, I love our state.
It sure is growing.
It is good, and I'm glad to see it.
We've got a lot of room down there, you know, so if it gets too crowded in Fredericksburg, we'll go further west.
But there's plenty of room out there, so I'd tell people to come on down.
You've got a studio out in Fredericksburg, don't you?
I have one out at Ferdinandus out just west of Austin there.
It's between Austin and Fredericksburg.
Boy, it sure is pretty out by hunt.
Yes, it is.
It's just incredibly beautiful all over that state, and I'm prejudiced, and I would be the first to admit it.
The presidential election, Kucinich has dropped out.
My audience and others helped raise the money for the recount.
They did find evidence on the Republican and Democratic side of chicanery in New Hampshire.
But Kucinich has dropped out now.
What do you think of Ron Paul?
I like Ron Paul, but I think he's got the same troubles that Dennis had, first of all.
You know, there's not that much support.
Behind him, he is growing a little bit, but I noticed his numbers had come up in, where was it, Maine here in the last day or so?
You know, I like what he says.
I still think when we get down to it, it's going to be McCain and either Hillary or Obama.
And they're all pro-war.
It sounds like it.
I was hoping that Hillary had changed her mind.
I was hoping Obama was all the way against the war.
I don't know.
Maybe public opinion can keep their minds where they need to be.
Let's talk more about the election, biodiesel, hemp, the drug war, so many other questions.
Half the interview has already gone by.
This is just wonderful to have you with us, Mr. Nelson.
You are a sweetheart to spend so much time with us.
We'll be right back with Willie Nelson after this quick three-minute break.
Please stay with us.
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Eight servers, and this has not happened in about a year.
Some of the sites you can't even hardly get to right now.
I guess the word has spread on the Internet that Willie Nelson is, and we can take millions of visitors, so people are going crazy right now on the websites.
Willie, you have made quite a splash here.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, you're burning the place down.
It's awesome.
Getting into the war and then the solution, trying to fix this politically, magically, Ron Paul's been getting half the votes the polls show he should get.
Obama was getting 15 more points or more than Hillary in New Hampshire.
She magically won by almost four points.
That's like an 18-point swing.
That's never happened before.
Ron Paul really got second place in politics.
Nevada, the media just said he didn't even make place.
He won first place in Louisiana.
They lied and said he got second place.
These voting machines, all the corruption there, give us your view on that.
Well, you know, it's a no-brainer.
You've got to get rid of the voting machines because they're crooked or they can be hacked.
And we can't afford to have another election stolen.
Well, in the past, when you were growing up as a young man and then even older, I mean, the voting was they put the ballot box out in the middle of the room.
They all got counted.
That precinct then announced it.
Everybody got to watch the counting.
You still had a few problems.
Yeah, that's my question.
What do we have to see in order to change it?
Because we know it's crooked.
Well, I guess we first have to expose that it is crooked, and that's now happening.
What's the second step?
I mean, the establishment knew we weren't going to like what they were doing, and so now they've moved in to block us with these machines.
Well, since I know zero about machines, you know, it wouldn't be that hard for them to fool me.
You know, and it's done with pencil and paper.
I get fooled with that, too, but it's a little harder.
But you didn't get fooled on the war from day one, and you didn't get fooled on 9-11, Willie.
No, I didn't.
And I still think I know what's going on there.
Well, now that Kucinich has dropped out, do you think Ron Paul's the best candidate, or what's your take on that?
I think he's a great candidate.
I think he's a great guy, and I wish him well.
And we'll see what happens, I guess, tomorrow that will answer a lot of our questions.
Yeah, Super Tuesday coming up tomorrow.
Willie, getting back into 9-11, because you brought it up, and I was debating even bringing it up.
It's so controversial.
But other questions, other things that piqued your interest and made you question the official story surrounding 9-11?
Well, as soon as...
It happened, and the next day, I was somewhere doing a show, and somebody said, what do you think about it?
And I said, well, first of all, when I get hit, I like to look around and see who did it before I start swinging at everybody in the room.
And it kind of looked like what we were doing.
We get hit over here, and the next thing you know, we're jumping on everybody in the town.
So, we got hit from Saudi Arabia.
I think we have some
Questions that need to be answered from those folks.
You know, that's a really good point you make.
Again, Newsweek reported a week after 9-11 that in the six months before, they had massed carrier task forces, 44,000 U.S.
troops, 18,000 British troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan surrounding, and that Bush on September 10th signed the order in the next week to attack Afghanistan.
Man, what timing, Willie, that he signed the attack order the day before.
Yeah, I wonder how that happened.
I mean, how smoking gun is that?
Yeah, I mean, what does it take for us to realize that, you know, we're having the wool pulled over our eyes one more time?
You know, there's a war against the American people, and that's the drug war.
Back when drugs were sold on store shelves, we had a lot less drug use in this country.
They criminalize it, it corrupts the police, and it puts a lot of money in drugs, and then the kids get involved in it, and of course they've got to go after marijuana because 70 plus percent of people don't use other drugs.
They use the medicine, hemp, and you've been a big advocate exposing how DuPont and Dow Chemical shut that down, even the cannabis varieties that don't even have HTC in them.
When did you first begin to fight the drug war and to expose what was happening with the suppression of hemp?
Well, first of all, I knew that there should be... that it's the greatest killer on the planet is stress and the best medicine is cannabis for some people.
And it's a good medicine.
So, first of all, there was no reason to make it illegal unless you had an agenda.
And the same thing with...
The same thing with biodiesel and ethanol.
Ethanol back in the 30s, 25% of the market was ethanol.
The other 75% was standard oil.
So once ethanol became a problem, what did they do?
They came up with Prohibitia.
It did two things.
It stopped the farmer from growing
And making ethanol because he was making ethanol in the same piece of equipment that he made his whiskey in, which was a still.
So when they brought in Prohibition and stopped the whiskey, they also stopped the making of ethanol and they put the farmers out of business who were making their own fuel.
And also Standard Oil again won the battle.
Yeah, my family's from in between Fairfield and...
Buffalo, and we've still got over 1,000 acres out there.
Farming's tough.
Some of the years they would sell land off of the original Spanish land grant just to be able to pay the taxes, but the big drought in the 50s almost made them go under.
But there are rotting stills back there down on some of the swampland.
I don't know who put them there.
They're still regulators.
They might come after us.
But there's old metal remnants of stills, and the story I got was is that they made them destroy them
Well, it definitely happened to a lot of people.
And it put the ethanol people out of business the first time.
And then the second time around, they put them out of business.
And now they're trying to do it again.
And as oil goes up and up and up and up...
They're also looking at us over here who are into the alternative energies, and I've heard from the oil companies that, you know, it's all right.
You guys go ahead and do what you're going to do for the next 36 months or so, and then we're going to come in and take it over.
And that would all be well and good, except that when that happens, I know it's not going to be good for the local producer and the local consumer.
A lot of things will be imported, palm oil for all over the world, and that's not good.
Until we can get it back to where...
Your family and my family can grow their own ethanol and their own biodiesel and then our economy is going to stay bad.
We have to bring it back to sustainable agriculture locally and it's got to start locally.
Going back to biodiesel, there's a big difference between biodiesel and some of the things they're making out of corn because you're able to make the biodiesel you create out of all sorts of things.
Can you explain the difference and then talk about the program you've tried to launch nationally?
Well, the first diesel engine, Rudolph Diesel designed his first engine to run on peanut oil.
So for all these years that we've been using peanut oil,
You know, oil and diesel, and we could have been using peanut oil.
We could have been using all kinds of vegetable oils, but we didn't have to become that dependent.
So it was a... Again, it was a planned agenda to keep us away from the biodiesel because they wanted to sell us oil.
At the same time, the government was using biodiesel and ethanol and its equipment because it was...
Well, you talk about the Monopoly game they played to do this.
Is that the place you started to learn about the Monopoly men and the larger global forces?
Or when did you discover what, for lack of a better term, we'd call the New World Order or the Kingpins?
Oh, I don't know.
There's one thing and another.
That was part of it.
You know, when the cannabis thing and the marijuana was made illegal back in those days, I traced it back to the petrochemicals again.
Everything that was made from
Cannabis now is made from petrochemicals, so it's just the oil companies again coming in and taking over and making marijuana illegal and telling people it's crazy and it'll kill you and all that stuff.
So far, I don't know of anybody that's died from marijuana unless a bale fell on them or something.
My friend Kevin Booth just produced a film I consulted on called American Drug War that's going to be airing on Showtime coming up in March, I guess next month.
And he spent four years making it, and he's got the numbers.
From year to year it changes, but about 200,000 to 300,000, it changes each year, die from pharmacological legal drugs.
And about 10,000 die a year from all the really hard, quote, bad illegal drugs, which I agree are bad, heroin, cocaine, things like that.
And then they can't even find any deaths from marijuana, and George Washington grew it on his land and smoked it for stomachaches.
So why is marijuana illegal, and why do they fill the prisons with hundreds of thousands of people a year who are caught with it?
Well, it's obvious again, because everything that's made from petrochemicals at one time was made from cannabis.
And it's... Even the...
The Blue Jeans.
Did you ever read a book called The Emperor Has No Clothes that Jack Harrow wrote?
Yes, I did.
I like the Bible, yeah.
And it talks about the original Levi's being made from cannabis.
And it talks about all the ships, the covered wagons, the canvas was made from cannabis.
Yeah, the sails, the ropes, they lasted four or five times longer.
Yeah, and when I was in high school in the FFA during the war,
And they had us making rope out of hemp.
They made hemp legal again back during the war because they needed it.
And we were making hemp ropes in the gymnasium there in Abbott, Texas.
It really is a magic plant.
I mean, you can grow it anywhere, and it's just an incredible product for industry, but I guess it's not centralized like a giant chemical plant, so they just can't let the farmers have that, can they?
That's right.
It's just too hard for them to
We're talking to Willie Nelson.
He's not just a country music legend or been in scores of films.
He's a humanitarian and has just done so much good work for humanity.
Do you want to play part of that song since you mentioned it?
We happen to have it, Peace on Earth.
Would you like us to play a few minutes of that, Willie?
Sure, go ahead.
John, you've got that, right?
We sent him so many songs.
Yeah, it's there.
I forgot to tell him that we might play that if you mentioned it.
Here it is.
We'll be back to Willie here in about two minutes.
So much going on, so much going on So many things going on in the world Babies dying, mothers crying How mature this one human life was What happened to peace on earth?
We believe everything that they tell us.
They're gonna kill us.
We'd better kill them first.
But I remember the commandment.
Thou shalt not kill.
How much is that soldier's life worth?
What happened to peace on earth?
The people of earth still believe that
Everything we've been told from our birth.
Hell, they won't lie to me.
Not on my own damn TV.
But how much is a liar's word worth?
What happened to peace on earth?
So I guess it's just two and a hundred.
Let's just give them all and let God sort them out.
Is this what God wants us to do?
And the people of the earth are still believing everything we've been told from our birth.
Hell, they won't lie to me Not on my own damn TV But how much is a liar's word worth?
What happened to peace on earth?
Don't confuse caring for weakness Can't put that label on me
The truth is my weapon of mass protection And I believe truth sets you free But he will learn to believe in Everything we've been told from our birth
Well, they won't lie to me Not on my old damn TV For how much is a liar's word worth?
What happened to peace on earth?
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Spread it around.
Willie Nelson really boils it down there.
How much is a liar's word worth?
Willie, I mean, the White House, the Congress has been caught hundreds of times, the documents have come out, buying billions of dollars of fake newscasts and buying reporters.
And that's what I always ask my listeners when I'm on other talk shows and on television.
I say, we've been lied to thousands of times we know of, hundreds of times by the Bush administration.
They've been caught.
We know they're lying.
They're not making mistakes.
Your view on that, Willie?
Well, you're absolutely right.
After all the other things that they've done, lying is certainly not going to stop them.
It's all it takes to cover up what they're doing is a little white lie.
Well, they'll paint the world with little white lies.
And I wouldn't call... Yeah, white lies are bad enough, but these are big black lies to... These are huge black ones, yeah.
Well, I want to talk about courage.
And I know you get sick of people thanking you and lauding you.
You're a very humble man.
That's where your strength flows from.
But the courage... Or is it just instinctive?
It's in your spirit, so you're just doing it.
I mean, the courage to come on this show...
And I don't think you've ever talked about 9-11.
I don't think you've ever talked about martial law, or maybe I missed it anywhere else.
And to say these things, can you tell us in your heart why you're doing this, and A, and then B, is this the first time you've said some of these things?
No, it's not the first time I've said it, and it won't be the last time.
I'm just saying what I believe.
I'm not that brave, I don't think.
Maybe I'm too dumb to be scared.
But I just believe in saying what you really think.
And that's always been what I did.
Sometimes that doesn't go well with other people, but they'll have to get over it.
Well, you are certainly a straight shooter.
There is absolutely no doubt about that.
In about six minutes, the show's going to end, John, and I want you to go out in the last 30, 45 seconds with Willie from that Highwaymen song, Silver Stallion.
You know, talking to a music legend like yourself, obviously Johnny Cash affected me a lot, so did Waylon Jennings.
What is it like having those two friends gone, Willie?
Oh, I miss them a lot.
You know, Waylon and I were...
We felt like cats and dogs.
We felt like married people, you know.
But I loved him like a brother, and I know he did me, too.
And John and I got really close during the Highwaymen tours, and we did three of those.
And, you know, you don't travel around the world and live that close without getting to know people.
And John and Leland and Chris and I, you know, we had a whole lot of fun together.
When did you first meet John Akesh?
He had already left Nashville when I went to Nashville, and then I got a letter from him.
He got my address from Chris or somebody and said he wanted me to write him a song.
And so I wrote him the song, and he recorded it, and then the next time he came to town, we got together and talked about it.
And we'd run into each other every now and then, but when we did... He had a show over in Switzerland,
That him and June went over and they did a Christmas show over in Switzerland and he asked me to come over there and be on that show.
And Waylon went and all our families went over there and we spent Christmas over in Switzerland and had a great time.
That's when we first started talking about doing the first Highwaymen album together and also doing the tours.
Well, I love all your music, but the Highwaymen, it's just all of it's poetry.
I think there's some great songs.
Chip Smallman is a really great producer.
Got a lot of those songs together.
And we did, too.
We just sat around and figured out what we wanted to sing.
And, you know, I thought that there were some good songs in there.
What's your favorite Highwaymen song?
Oh, I like the song, I Was a Highwayman.
Oh, yeah.
The Jimmy Webb song.
I like that one a lot.
In fact, change that.
Let's go out with I Was a Highwayman.
I love that one.
Well, but we're not going out yet, Willie, and I know you're really busy.
You've given us an hour on the show ends.
I'd like to talk to you just for a moment or two about some other things.
Just in closing,
We know we're going into serious times with the economy.
The big central banks, I have their documents.
I interviewed Joseph Stiklitz, their former chief economist, who quit when he found out in 2002 they were planning to organize this.
They issued all this liquidity, gave everybody credit.
Now they're pulling back that credit.
They're saying it's the greatest threat since the Great Depression.
With that said, you were born during all of that.
Where do you see this going?
I guess the worst case scenario would be if we all had to go back to the way we grew up and grow our own food in our own gardens in the backyard or in our pot plants or whatever.
And it's something we can do.
In fact, all over Houston, New York and cities now, people are using vacant lots and rooftops to grow, starting to grow their own vegetables.
And I think the way things are going, we all should be thinking about how can we sustain ourselves
If gasoline is too expensive, or if there is no more, or if the roads get cut off, there's the weather problems that we've had, and from all indications, those things are going to get worse.
Are you familiar with the Mayan calendar, by the way?
I am, and it's clear we're going to have to do a part two if you'll do it in the next six months or so.
Yeah, I'd love to do that.
We could talk about all those things, but it's obvious that the weather patterns are getting more severe.
Well, look at the tsunamis.
I mean, in the last seven years, they've had more global disasters with more numbers killed than in the last 30 years before it.
Yeah, and I do believe that the weather is going to be giving us more problems than anything else.
And the
It's going to affect us every way possible.
So we all may have to go back to the self-sustainment of growing our own food and trying to find our own water.
Well, I think that's the solution is getting back to the earth, unplugging from the television, loving our families.
I think that's how we beat the New World Order, Willie Nelson.
Oh, you do?
I do.
That's the way we do it.
And it's the act of God that's causing us to do it.
It may be weather patterns that makes us have to do it.
But it's, again, fortunately we're not in control.
There's somebody up there taking care of us, and they'll make us go back to doing what we need to be doing.
Yeah, I see people who are bored, depressed, these yuppies with all this money, they're unhappy.
How could they be unhappy?
We're on a spaceship flying around the sun at thousands of miles an hour in the middle of the cosmos.
We live on this beautiful planet.
I get the idea that Willie Nelson never gets bored, that you love life.
Oh, I have a good time all the time.
I try to.
Where is your tour going next?
If you're in Tucson now, where are you playing next?
We play Tucson.
We play here the next couple of nights at a casino, and then we go into St.
Louis, Obispo, California, Reno, Monterey, Santa Rosa, Los Angeles, Indio, Flagstaff, Farmington.
Willie Nelson, we're out of time.
This has been the most amazing interview I have ever done.
I've interviewed so many great people, and I just want to thank you for spending this amazing time with us, sir.
I feel like, at a certain level, we're kindred spirits, and I just, I love you.
Well, you too, Alex.
I admire what you're doing.
You've got a lot of guts, and just keep doing it, buddy.
Well, I guess we're all highwaymen in the end, and we'll come back around, fly that starship across the universe divide.
That's it.
All right, Willie, we're going to roll this song out, and I'll talk to you in just one moment, and then I'll let you go.
Please stay right there.
I'm Alex Jones.
We'll have a report on this at prisonplanet.com.
Stay with us.
I was a sailor.
I was born upon the tide.
We're good to go.