Alex Jones, Mike Rivera, and guests dissect the Willie Nelson 9/11 controlled demolition claims, alleging media censorship of his martial law fears. They analyze Ron Paul's Super Tuesday gains against Clinton, Wesley Snipes' tax conspiracy trial venue issues, and undersea cable cuts near Egypt as potential false flags. The broadcast frames these events as evidence of a globalist plot to de-link oil from the dollar and exterminate 80% of humanity, urging listeners to break through an electronic Berlin Wall of censorship before a New World Order dictatorship enforces martial law. [Automatically generated summary]
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It is already the fifth day of February 2008.
We're going to be live for the next three hours.
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So that is coming up today with Colorado.
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As we are change, this explodes all across the planet thanks to the leadership of Luke Radowsky and all the great people that rallied to the banner of 9-11 Truth.
Speaking of 9-11 Truth, you know we had Willie Nelson on yesterday and I want to take your calls, get your take on that.
This is about survival.
This is about living.
If they, if the establishment is able to stage terror attacks and get away with it, like Oklahoma City, the first World Trade Center attack in 1993, and many other events, the Gulf of Tonkin staged event, the USS Liberty with Israel in the U.S., if they're able to stage the overthrow of Mozedek with staged events, they're going to continue to do it with bigger and bigger events in the very near future.
This is life and death to expose this, and That's why I've been somewhat successful at taking action against the New World Order, because I realize that this is a life-and-death situation.
And I have to tell you that I've noticed that the vast majority of 9-11 truth sites, the vast majority of quote, Patriot, alternative news sites, think that they're in competition with me because I'm the 800-pound gorilla.
This is life and death, and it's one thing to have the Drudge Report posted last night, our article about Willie Nelson saying the towers were destroyed by controlled demolition.
It's another thing to have some of the biggest sites out there refuse to link to anything we put out or anything we do just out of pure competitiveness and jealousy.
I link to everybody's websites.
I even have links to competing radio networks on my websites.
This is about survival.
And if you don't stab me in the back repeatedly, I will work with you, I will have you on, I will promote you.
But I want to turn the listeners loose, not on mainstream media.
They play all sorts of games, censoring Ron Paul, lying about Ron Paul, never showing what We Are Change says up close, though they had cameras up close.
You know, they play these type of games.
But see, We Are Change doesn't care about being in the news.
Their name being in the news, which the media, you notice, nationally is always very careful not to say their name.
They don't care about having their name in the news.
They care about bringing murderers to justice and stopping martial law.
They got their heads screwed on straight.
Luke Rodowski has his head screwed on straight.
And that's why it's been successful.
He has the proper spirit.
A lot of you out there do not have the proper spirit.
I don't mean my listeners.
And so know this.
The mainstream media and alternative media is censoring the Willie Nelson story.
We bring this show, most of the people, into this movement so they can then be filtered out to you.
We are not in competition with each other.
You can take my name out, I don't care, but talk about how Willie Nelson, I mean, he is in the top ten icons.
I mean, the guy is as big, you know, as an icon globally as Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He's as well known.
He is Americana.
He says he's afraid of martial law, suspension of election, and the government carried out the attacks of 9-11.
That is a big deal.
I want you to go to Infowars.com.
I want you to go to PrisonPlanet.com.
I want you to get the articles we've written and posted in the audio files, and I want you to ram them down the Internet's throat and go absolutely insane, Infowarriors.
We are changers, liberty lovers.
Go wild!
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But there's two ways to look at what Hollywood and television is doing right now.
Why are they putting out so many plots where the government is staging terror attacks or going to stage a nuke attack to set up total martial law in the United States?
There's really several ways to look at this.
There's more than two ways to look at it.
It's revelation of the method.
It's psychological conditioning.
It's the globalists throwing it in your face before they do it.
It's the establishment bragging, gang member type of tells, or it's a fight within the elite, and one section of the establishment, we know they do fight with each other at certain levels, does not want the military-industrial complex to stage events, and nukes going off in U.S.
cities are in the cards.
Council on Foreign Relations has said it's going to happen.
And they've said Dallas, Cleveland, Denver.
I mentioned one other city, I forget now, it was three years ago, four years ago.
So it could be the establishment fighting amongst themselves, or it could be good people, good writers in Hollywood, people that know what's going on, who are trying to warn the population as best they can. people that know what's going on, who are trying to Now Now, I tend to think it's a mix of all three.
Some of it's throwing it in your face.
Some of it's writers sneaking stuff through.
Some of it is different sectors of the power elite who want to go with the slower Fabian Socialist Brave New World model than a fast fascist shift into total control.
In fact, it's always a mix of things.
Nothing in life is just one thing or the other.
It's almost always a combination.
But here is the new three-minute season promo for Jericho on CBS that is running right now.
Then I'm going to give the Willie Nelson interview and a lot more.
Here it is.
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Jericho.
A small town in Kansas had witnessed a series of nuclear attacks that destroyed 23 American cities in a single day.
The attacks crippled and fractured the U.S. government.
government and left our town cut off from the world.
News and World Report, right before the election in 2004, the last presidential election, They had a report saying top White House official tells us secretly, we can't tell you who it is, that we will be nuked.
That there will be a nuke go off.
Probably before the election.
Now, they used the Cold War fear after they gave the Russians the A-bomb and the hydrogen bomb and they fried some patsies.
And they had duck and cover and said we were going to have war, and that didn't happen.
So, they may not do it.
The point is, they told us that there's all these nukes in the country.
They claim that the Russians sold them in Cracker Jack boxes to whoever wanted them.
Totally made up.
They tell us that Alexander Levin went public on it, and then his helicopter crashed.
The top Russian general.
All I know is, if you don't think the New World Order to bring in their world government won't set off nukes, or won't release bird flu, or won't do something else like that, you are gravely mistaken.
They'll kill 3,000, they'll kill 3 million.
And they'll do it with pleasure.
And they haven't spent decades setting up a total police state takeover system for no reason.
So the police, the military, everybody Out there should know.
When you've got scores of TV shows with the basic plotline you just heard from Jericho, why, and by the way, in the plotline it's come out that it's the government, a faction, they haven't said exactly what faction, but I'll bet money just from watching that piece, that it's going to be quote, Bible-thumpers, right-wingers in the government that are going to set off nukes to do all this.
That set off the 23 nukes so they could destroy the government and take over themselves.
Because that's always the bad guys.
They know the public knows that 9-11 is an inside job, so they're... a lot of these plots are being written because they're just... they know they have to go with the flow.
So we've gone a long way from six and a half years ago when I first got on air before 9-11, on the day of 9-11, and brought forward the point that it was an inside job.
And others as well saw what was coming, and the propaganda was so clear.
But when you see television programs like this, you better know that it is in the cards.
Just like Russian Roulette, you got six cylinders, six 357 Magnum casings and rounds loaded in.
And they're going click, click, click, spin, click, click, up against our head, and I don't like it.
And they need to stop it, and this doesn't need to happen!
But if we're just a bunch of football-watching, beer-swilling, yuppie know-it-alls, stumbling around acting cool, talking about killing Al Ketter, you just can't do that anymore, you neocon trolls on the web, and the neocon bought and paid for people running our media.
And the liberals that are, I mean, watching this We Are Change video up close of him confronting Bill Clinton and watching the people come up and put their hands on him and stick their Hillary signs in front of the brave guy's face.
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I'm going to get his name from We Are Change when they come on.
And he's sitting there for five minutes yelling at Bill Clinton.
As Bill Clinton tries to use mass psychology, laughing at him, and people are booing him, all those poor, you know, well-meaning, dumb-as-dirt liberals, you're just as dumb as all the neocons following Bush.
You've bought into a brand name of the Democratic Party of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and it's shameful.
These are cold-blooded intelligence operatives that work for a very sinister organization.
Call it the New World Order.
Call it the Illuminati.
Call it chaos.
Call it death.
Call it the devil.
Call it greed.
Call it avarice.
Call it power.
Call it history.
When we get back, I'm going to get into Willie Nelson and the attempted media blackout.
It's big news.
I need your help to break the blockade like we did for Ron Paul in many cases.
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You know when I met Willie Nelson a few months ago and learned that he'd been watching my show and listening to the show for many years, I didn't really get into it much on air.
And then I didn't really push to get him on the show and boom he called and we had him on and I didn't really push to have him talk about 9-11.
I didn't want to get him into a big controversy and then he brought it up.
He brought it up and said, yeah, they blew the towers up.
Yeah, they want martial law.
He's afraid they'll suspend the election.
It's certainly in the cards, as I like to say.
I mean, Willie Nelson is a global icon.
He is pure Americana.
And he's a very intelligent man.
You get a chance to talk to him on the phone for 10-15 minutes.
You get a chance to meet him in person.
I mean, he's the real deal.
He's down to earth as it gets.
And he came on air and he brought up serious issues and we were hit by trolls like we've never seen on our message boards, at theprisonplanet.com forum, on YouTube, on the newinfowars.com, sections where you can post on all the stories.
And they just repeated the same thing over and over again, like zombies.
Willie Nelson smokes weed!
Willie Nelson smokes weed!
Well, it's a lot less worse for you than alcohol.
And so, since he smokes weed, we can't listen to a word he said.
Of course, George Washington smoked it.
Mary Jane.
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So, I guess he can't be our founding father, either.
is to come on and say, how dare you say the firefighters and police carried out the attacks?
You're saying the government did it.
Why did they run into the buildings?
When you're on the ground at Ground Zero and the known Feds are out there confronting you, trying to start fights, they always say that.
That's what a Fed says.
Most of them are just useful neocon idiots, who think open borders and gun control and Ann Coulter and endorsing Hillary Clinton is good.
I mean, they're into the party, they're into the ideal, they don't admit the fact that the vast majority of the troops are against the war, support Ron Paul, they're in total denial.
But to say that we say the police and firemen were involved in the attacks, they went into the buildings, they died.
And then they reported bombs going off and they were told to get out of seven because they were going to bring it down.
And by the way, by September 12th, I was saying the dust was poisonous, and I was saying, send gas masks.
The Genesis Network was saying send gas masks, and we listed two local churches that were trying to get mask filters for the people, and I know my listeners sent thousands of filters.
Go listen to the September 12th show.
I'm not tooting our horn, but we know what we're doing.
We're smart.
We assess things with critical thinking.
They didn't need you hanging American flags outside your house from what the American flag symbolizes is dying.
They need you to actually give them filters.
And to stand up to the EPA opening scores of schools and thousands of businesses two days after saying the air was good when there was two feet of concrete and mercury on the ground.
And every other toxic chemical you can imagine.
Tens of thousands of computers.
The thermostats, the light bulbs, all of it aerosolized into fine powder.
By whatever turned those buildings into dust right in front of everyone!
Fire doesn't make a bunch of buildings turn to pulverized pyroclastic volcanic flow!
And five weeks later, 2500 degrees, NASA photos!
But you sit there and you try to block us.
Now, we ran into major censorship.
I have watched the Drugs Report since 1996.
I know his pattern.
Stories stay on the site on average of about eight hours and then they move down and about four hours later they're gone.
He rotates the site twice a day.
It's being updated every hour and it just scrolls down.
He's got a couple people that work for him.
Brett Bart is one of them, the main guy running it.
Brett Bart, no doubt, posted the Charlie Sheen and within one hour it was down.
And it's a big site.
It's what all the big newspapers and people look at.
It's declining in popularity as people figure out he's a neocon.
He's lost his radio show and a lot of other things.
But it's one of the biggest sites out there.
There are sites a lot bigger, but they have thousands of pieces of media to pick from.
He'll only have 50 or 60.
So that's where you get real focus there.
That's a breakthrough point.
Yesterday, he put a link, Brett Bart did, up to, from Drudge, up to, InfoWars.com.
And within one hour, it was taken down, though saved in the archive, and that link went back to Drudge.
Now, I expect that from Matt Drudge.
The neocons shniveled.
But I do not expect that from the alternative media.
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Alright, finishing up with Willie Nelson, we're going to re-air some of the interview, a few minutes of it today, and then we're also going to have again Mike Rivera on.
Colorado, we are Change Your Calls.
Here are the different stories.
Willie Nelson fears election could be canceled.
We could Have George in there ten years longer, says country music star.
Drudge Report cans Willie Nelson's story, 9-11 revelations, briefly on the Popular News website front page.
Quickly removed, Willie Nelson's explosive take on 9-11 at the collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7, looked like a Las Vegas-style implosion, has largely been ignored by the media.
Thus far, though it briefly appeared on the front page...
of the Drudge Report before quickly being canned.
About an hour after we released the story, members of our forum alerted us to the fact that our headline had been posted on the front page of Drudge Report.
They took a screenshot as one of the biggest news websites in America and compete for traffic with the New York Times and Washington Post.
Though it was not linked to our website, the headline, Willie Nelson, Twin Towers Were Imploded on 9-11 Developing, appeared on the left-hand side of the Drudge Report late yesterday afternoon.
It was linked to Brett Barth.
It was linked to us.
However, within less than an hour or so, the headline was pulled from the front page.
A similar thing happened when Charlie Sheen went public with his 9-11 doubts in March of 2006.
The story briefly appeared on the Drudge before being removed.
To hazard a guess as to what happened, we believe that one of Drudge's assistants posted the headline before swiftly being overruled by Matt Drudge himself, resulting in the headline being Memory Hold.
The headline as it appeared on the Drudge before it was pulled can still be viewed at the Drudge Report Archives website which takes a screenshot of Drudge's front page every two minutes.
We think it was Brett Bart because he works for Drudge and he has his own website and he has left it up.
The story did make the front page of Breitbart, which is run by Drudge assistant Andrew Breitbart, meaning that it was probably Breitbart who posted the Willie Nelson story before being overruled by Drudge himself.
So why did Drudge pull the link?
Charlie Sheen's brave embrace of 9-11 Truth left the establishment media with two choices.
Either to ignore the story or attack Charlie Sheen.
They chose to attack Sheen and that decision disastrously backfired because it gave 9-11 Truth a public platform and promoted a national debate.
And you just see it exploding from that point.
When his father Martin Sheen went public a few months ago, the media took a different approach and completely blackballed the story.
It appears that Drudge has set the standard, and they have many sets of standards for many media reporting, for the second method to be employed again.
Though the story was covered last night by Texas News Channel, local ABC, The rest of the media are so far silent on the issue as it remains to be seen whether or not they will keep up a united front of censorship in an attempt to diffuse the importance of Willie Nelson's comments on yesterday's Alex Jones Show.
And I get these tired comments from the minority of even our listeners, emails, message board comments, I stand over it, I want your feedback, going, he's a star, a movie star, more than a hundred films, And, uh, the latest big one, the Dukes of Hazzard playing Grandpa Jesse, and, you know, who cares what Hollywood people, who cares what people say?
Well, they'll obsess 24-7 about anything anybody in Hollywood does all over every major TV news program.
When they're doing something stupid, but when Willie Nelson, who's always been socially active and been on the right side of every issue that I've seen, anti-war, against the drug war, Spoke out when they were banning people from the radio, and they tried to reduce his amount of playing on the radio.
They tried to shut down the Dixie Chicks and boycott them.
I mean, they're paying a price for this.
He knows what he's doing.
He has great courage to be doing this.
And it's news when Willie Nelson comes out and says he thinks we're going into a dictatorship, and they suspend the elections, and he hopes they don't.
He's trying to stop that, and that 9-11's an inside job.
I mean, that's news any way you cut it.
Dig, of course, banned all our stories and said they were spam.
And you bet, we want to get a new big 9-11 debate going back in the media again.
They've openly said in the National News, New York Times, time to forget 9-11, time for Bush to stop using it, time for Giuliani to stop using it for their aim of police state.
They didn't say that, they just said it's time to put it to rest because they know they're losing the debate.
They told 9-11 truthers it's time for you to shut up and time for everybody to forget about this and just move on to the next inaugural terror attack Hillary or McCain or whoever gets in is going to launch.
So there's several big stories.
Drug Report, Kans Willie Nelson story, need to get that out.
Another story, Willie Nelson fears an event that could keep Bush in office for another 10 years.
Op-Ed News did that, we need to get that out to people.
And of course there's the original story.
Willie Nelson, Towers, 9-11 Towers.
Let me get the actual headline on that because it's scrolled off the page now.
We probably need to post that back up because that's the That's the big story there.
Let me go to PrisonPlanet.com.
Willie Nelson, WTC imploded on 9-11.
It's in the News and Focus section on the right-hand side of PrisonPlanet.com.
I need you to put it on MySpace, YouTube, your email list, call into talk radio shows, call into country shows.
I mean, I even called into a few talk shows last night.
I mean, I put my money where my mouth is.
And I called into, I don't know, three or four shows last night and said, hey, we need to talk about this.
This needs to be covered.
And the big group that has no excuse is other patriot radio networks, other talk shows, people that talk about 9-11 truth.
I tuned into quite a few 9-11 truth shows last night.
I called in and asked board ops, hey, have they talked about this?
Have I missed it?
No, they're not talking about it.
So I called some hosts who said they knew that they were going to get around to it, which I believe was only six, seven hours, eight hours into it.
But now we're 24 hours into this, or about 22 hours right now, 23 hours.
And I want to see this break big because so many people love Willie Nelson.
The left loves him, libertarians love him, country, western music people, just people who like Americana culture.
I mean, I've seen the big global polls.
They have them every year about, you know, what do you associate with America, good things in America.
And they say baseball, Willie Nelson, apple pie.
I mean, he's up there with all those things.
He's a living legend.
The guy's been playing since 1949, been big since 1956.
I mean, he hung out with Elvis, Johnny Cash, all of them.
This is a living legend who came on this show, who contacted us and came on this show, And I said, Willie, I don't want to bring a bunch of controversial stuff, get a bunch of heat on you, and during the break, and he said, look, let's just get into serious stuff right now.
And now, in hindsight, I'm going to get him back on in the next few months and, you know, flesh it out when he talks about Bilderberg groups, or talking about endgame, and I'll move on.
Well, what do you think about the Bilderberg group?
Well, you know, well, what do you think about him using 9-11 for tyranny?
Or what do you think about the toll roads?
They tried to get him to name a bunch of trans-Texas toll roads after him, and one of my friends called him up.
I wish I could tell the story.
He doesn't want me to.
I should have brought this up to Willie, and I forgot.
But another music legend here locally called up Willie and said, look, you don't want him to, that's like naming, you know, an electric chair after you.
That's naming, every time somebody pays money, they're going to think about Willie Nelson.
They're going to throw one on I-35 and name it after him.
And Willie then went on TV and said, I've had second thoughts.
I don't want him to name an electric chair after me.
You know, Willie's a nice guy.
He tries to help people.
And, you know, he hadn't said yes to it yet, so I guess he really hadn't changed his mind, but they'd asked him to, and a week later he came out and said no.
He was against the toll roads.
So I forgot to ask him about toll roads.
Alright, I'm going to take some of your calls.
The point is, Willie Nelson has gone public.
Remember how they took the bait on Sheen?
And then it was big national debate all over the place, and then 9-11 Truth, all the 9-11 Truth sites had 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 times the traffic.
You remember that 9-11 sites?
And then out of that it just got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, and it's huge now!
This is another wave!
But they know Willie Nelson is loved.
They thought that they could demonize Sheen, blew up in their face, everybody resonated with his courage.
Because of stuff he did 10, 15 years ago.
You know, partying.
Liking women.
Whatever.
Oh, great sins.
Who hadn't sinned?
Especially if you're making 30 million dollars a year and you're 25, 30 years old, you know.
And if the election ends, I love We Are Change and the other 9-11 truth groups and everybody else that's out there, because they're going and confronting the liberals, the Democrats, the people involved in the 9-11 cover-up.
They're going to continue this throughout the election.
It isn't ever going to stop!
And we may back them off.
They may not stage more events.
Or they may do it in the Middle East or something because we've exposed so much here.
We're trying to save lives.
We're in a race against time.
I look down the barrel of a gun every day.
This isn't fun.
This is work.
I was dead dog tired last night at 8 o'clock.
I didn't want to do my TV show.
I had a splitting headache.
But I drug my hind in there with Trey Kincaid, and we did that show.
And then I called in to 1, 2, 3, 4 radio shows after that until midnight.
I called in on the line, went on the shows, trying to get this information out.
Trying to break through the electronic Berlin Wall.
I need your help.
Willie Nelson gave us the ball.
We need to carry it now.
He is loved across the country.
He is absolutely adored in the Midwest.
We need to hear every talk show.
We need to hear Gary Brownfield talking about this tomorrow.
Now he's usually four or five days behind on the news.
He's a great guy.
And he's on like 80-something stations.
We're all over the heartland into Colorado.
And he's all over the country from Indiana to Texas.
Need to hear Derry talking about this.
Need to hear every one of these shows talking about this.
And I could care less about hearing the name Alex Jones.
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I've been attacked a lot, a lot of things have happened.
I get to where I just isolate myself, stay away from everybody, because as I get bigger and bigger, the craziness and the jealousy and the envy... Look, it is not a fun job.
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Yeah, thanks, Alex.
After your usual brilliant opening monologue, I just about had the life sucked out of me with the last 20 minutes of rerun, unfortunately.
You know, arguably, the best thing out there, the most powerful, important thing out there, I'd give my eye teeth for that elephantine memory and recall.
Do you have an idea, Alex, how endlessly frustrating it is, not from the caller's but the listener's perspective, that is, on almost any of the most brilliant of your guests, there's almost none whose sentences can't better be completed by Alex himself, nor who might pursue a more Uh, important line that might occur to you.
No, I agree that maybe I could have just, hold on, let me finish.
Roger, you said something.
I'll let you talk.
I'm going to talk now.
Okay, that's not interrupting.
I'm talking.
Listen, I guess I could have just sat there for 10 seconds with a pregnant pause and made him say more.
Okay?
And it is true that I get excited, but I've gotten actually better about that.
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No, we all have our faults, and I'm afraid my own would be worse than yours in the same position.
But we can all be improved, indeed.
I hope your board ops criticize you from time to time, and you welcome that from them.
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Uh-huh.
So it's... We've all got a noose around our neck.
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The answer to your question here, we are not yet back in production.
We are still, of course, shut down by the writer's strike.
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There are eight episodes of season four already in the can and ready to broadcast.
But if the writer's strike is not resolved in the next couple of weeks, it is very unlikely episode nine would be ready on time to air.
And of course, if the writer's strike really continues for a very long time, Then either the balance of Season 4 will be combined with Season 5, or it'll just be cancelled outright.
You know, I never thought to talk to you, because you've been involved in some big movie productions, a lot of big TV productions.
We're not going to get into exactly what you do there, unless you want to, Mike, because you've always tried to keep that quiet.
I brought it up here.
But this writer's strike is important to the economy.
We know they've been cheating the writers, at least that's my opinion, from the percentages of the money they make compared to what the stockholders make.
And unfortunately, part of what's fueling the current strike is there's still a lot of bad feelings left over from the very prolonged strike back in 1988.
And of course, we're looking at a potential SAG strike in the summer.
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So overall, it's a very, very bad year for the industry.
The real irony is... Oh, a Screen Actors Guild on top of it.
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Yeah, now the Directors Guild has signed their new contract, so the directors are not going to go on strike, but the actors are still making noises like they might.
The real irony is, the strike was over a couple of percentage points residuals on what are called secondary showings, which is DVD sales, internet airing, and so forth and so on.
The writers are saying because a lot of people don't see the original broadcast on TV, for them the DVD or the internet showing is a first Screening and therefore should be paid appropriate residuals, and I understand their particular point of view But the irony is that TV has lost an estimated 25% of its audience during the strike And a lot of experts are saying, now that these people are out of the habit of watching TV, they may not be coming back.
There was the habitual training of the ritual of watching television, and now that 25% of, and they'd already lost a lot of their viewers over the last decade, as you know, Mike, now they may not be coming back to TV.
They've discovered the internet, they've realized that those small people are actually their own children there in the living room, and they're starting to interact with them again.
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And so in the long run, even if the writers get this additional residual percentage point, they're probably going to be losing out in the long term, because the 2% gain versus the 25% loss, you know, that's, residuals are based on total number of viewers and buyers and so forth, and they may have actually done more harm to themselves than good with this.
But I'm not going to cry for Sumner Redstone and others.
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No.
You know, I think one of the reasons that people have not sympathized with the writers too much is they see them driving up to the ticket lines in BMWs and Mercedes.
Now, again, we're not covering this because of entertainment and television, and my wife doesn't watch hardly any TV, but she does like Lost, and she's going to get mad at me.
I haven't yet seen it, but supposedly it's pretty captivating.
But this is important from an economic view.
Speaking of Hollywood TV production, Mike, you've been in for decades.
I was kind of wondering in the last hour why there's all these now on 24, the governments behind the terror attacks, Jericho, the governments behind the nuke attacks to bring in martial law.
A bunch of these shows have now shifted into this in just the last few years.
Is that the writers trying to give the people what they want because the public already knows?
Or is that the New World Order throwing it in our face, as we know they've done in the past?
Or is that a mix of all of this?
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I think it is mostly not so much the writers but the producers of the show who realize that this is now the common awareness in the audience and that if they don't go with that they risk losing audience.
They looked at how shows like Boston Legal where they take some of these issues head-on and their ratings go up and the audience is going to watch the shows which reinforce their own current opinion about what's going on and the producers who are in this really to make more money than anything else They follow that trend, and they're going along with that, and they're doing these shows about the governance behind these deceptions, because they realize that is now what the majority of the audience...
is believing.
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And because they're not news shows, they're not subject to quite as much pressure by, you know, covert government agencies to spin things a certain way.
I said either they know that that's what the people demand.
Well, actually, I just said that and that's what they want.
Or they're trying to tell us the truth.
It's just that I've met not a lot, maybe 15 big writers over the last few years and some of the biggest writers.
And they are totally anti-New World Order.
And I know for at least six years that 9-11 truth and awareness of the New World Order has just been mushrooming throughout the entertainment industry.
And I mean, these people are not putting on acts.
They know what's going on now, and I think that feeds into it, too, Mike.
I have quite a few of the show's writers that I work on who know about me and my website, Uh, and they're fans, but you know, they're, they're understandably cautious.
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You need to understand something about people who work in Hollywood.
They're really very aware of what's going on, but they've spent their entire lives to build their careers and they don't want to risk it because they see what happens to people who really get a little too far out of line.
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And again, the example I point back to because it's historically safe is what happened to actress Jean Seberg back in the sixties when the FBI decided it was time to destroy her career.
And we have seen even during the Clinton administration, some actor or celebrity would come out and say, I think the government is doing wrong.
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And then 24 hours later, oh no, I didn't really mean that.
I think they're doing a wonderful job.
And you realize phone calls were made and somebody said, look, if you want to continue working in Hollywood, you have to tow the official government line.
It's no secret the government has exerted tremendous covert influence over film and TV ever since the days that J Edgar Hoover got Charlie Chaplin kicked out of the country for refusing to stop poking fun at authorities in his movies.
But I do see the fact that in news, especially, and forcing the mainstream media to start tackling at least some important issues, or giving alternative issues more time, because those are the dominant issues, and I am seeing more of that now in entertainment, the establishment is certainly in crisis.
And, you know, something that TV show producers are looking at, they're looking at the viewership of the news, and they're realizing if they take the same spin that the news programs do, they're going to lose their audience as well.
And they're all about numbers and audience and making money, and they're going to go where the majority of the audience headspace is, and that's what's happening.
I see that the Patriot Truth Movement, Liberty Movement, Alternative Reality Movement, I see that we are beginning to take over the main paradigm, and the establishment knows that, and they're panicking, Mike.
And, you know, I mean, we're seeing all these polls about the majority of Americans do not believe the official story on 9-11.
We're seeing the government still continue to try to spin the story, to counter it, this new one about trying to blame Saddam for making us think he had weapons of mass destruction, when he was all over the news in the weeks leading up to the Iraq invasion, saying, I don't have weapons of mass destruction.
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You know, I've seen a couple of the trailers for the TV show Jericho, and they imply that the government stages the terror attack there, and then listeners on my MySpace sent me a link to the CBS previous link about previous episodes, and yes, it says the government brings together anarchists, domestic militia, and religious extremists To stage nuke attacks with a faction of the government to bring in a new dictatorship.
See, you didn't say that in that little video piece I played on the three-minute TV ad for Jericho on CBS.
But I said, I bet it's right-wing Christians working with terrorists that are in the government.
See, they know the people now know it's the government, but they're going to go back to the old ADL propaganda that it's the right-wingers.
It isn't about ideology at the top.
It's about power.
And so there's spin within spin.
I mean, I just know how they operate.
So see, that's not an example of the media being good.
That's the writers knowing they have to go with the flow that we know it's a terror attack, but trying to spin it back on to the people.
And of course, Willie Nelson, I just have so much admiration for him.
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You know, he got really pounded on by the government years ago over the tax situation, so I'm not...
I'm surprised that he has sort of had his epiphany and realized that the government is not a friend of the people.
And I noticed that the Drudge Report, for like five minutes I think, reported on your interview where Willie Nelson said that the World Trade Center was imploded, or World Trade Center 7 was imploded, and then Drudge pulled it real quick.
So I think he got his little phone call later in the day.
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And I'm looking right now at your website where Willie Nelson is concerned, as are many Americans, That Bush could use a national emergency to basically say, okay, the elections are suspended.
They're all rigged anyway, so we can't trust them.
And I'm pointing out here that if we don't expose the government-sponsored terror, corporate-sponsored terror, false flag, blame it on somebody else event, they're going to keep doing it.
This is life and death.
And Mike, I appreciate you linking for the Willie Nelson stories.
A lot of the other Patriot sites think they're in competition with me.
This is life and death.
And I mean, this is a big interview.
I just want to get it out and I'm asking everybody, help us break through the mainstream media blockade.
Help this break out into the open.
Mike, how important is it or do you think it's important that everybody really get out there and email it and call talk shows and call the media and call the local AP office here in Austin.
It's always important for everybody who is listening to your show, or who is reading my website, to take that information and spread it as far and wide as they can for two reasons.
One, as we get the information out, and clearly in this regard we are winning, if you look at the poll numbers about people who doubt the official story of 9-11, the more we get the information out, the more Americans are being given the information they need to have to decide what they're going to be doing in the future.
But more importantly, If you speak out, you give courage to everybody around you to also speak out.
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And so you wind up with like a room full of people, and all of them have serious questions about what's going on, but they think they're the only one in the room.
So when one person speaks out, all of a sudden everybody says, you too?
I feel the same way myself.
I thought I was all alone.
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And then that talking begins to grow and spread where everybody finally begins to realize that doubting the government is now the majority opinion.
Not trusting the government is now the majority opinion.
I mean, Mike, you're right, but to break through the final illusion that the controlled corporate press has that we're all the minority, everybody's got to speak out in the street, at work, at church.
I mean, the government is not recruiting 26,000 preachers to tell their flocks to hand in their guns and submit to martial law.
Let's talk about it when we get back, and also I want to, you can co-interview with me if you'd like, I want to keep you into the next hour or two.
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That is not my office.
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I'm not there.
Okay.
But again, 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.
We're about to go to Colorado We Are Change.
Mike Rivero is taking out a lot of time from his important news website, WhatReallyHappened.com, and of course, being one of the top guys helping make the TV show Lost.
A lot more out in Hawaii, but we've got a big link up at the top of InfoWars.com to Colorado.
We Are Change is fabulous, folks.
Let me play you the audio from the video shot by our guest, Jonathan Ellenhoff.
I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
And this is Adam Miller.
I mean, we're talking 15 feet from Clinton, yelling up there about 9-11, inside job, new investigation, North American Union, and Clinton tries to ridicule him in mass Soviet-style psychology.
People come over and start putting their hands on him, pushing him.
Clinton says no, because he didn't want to make him a martyr.
He wanted to humiliate him.
It still backfired, Clinton.
The whole country saw you denying 9-11 is an inside job, and everybody knows you're a stinking criminal liar!
So here is a few minutes of the audio from the video.
Let me add a point here, and then I want to get Mike Rivera's take on it, and then let you continue with the fine things that I totally concur with.
Jonathan Ellenhoff from Colorado, we are changed.
Six months in action, and it's having a huge effect each week, getting national attention continually to the issues.
This is key, as Mike was saying about 20 minutes ago, just like in Ceausescu's Romania, where people finally started standing up, finally started...
Speaking out, and then that caused the whole facade to crumble.
I've had Nightline call me.
They're freaking out over this.
You can tell they're scared.
The establishment is scared because they know that other groups, not just We Are Change or InfoWars groups or Truth groups, but other groups, people are getting in the streets, they're going to events, and they're disrupting the dog and pony theater for the establishment.
Mike, they're getting scared.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely they are afraid because You know, it's not like the American people have to actually prove anything.
The real danger is that we're just going to stop listening to the government.
unidentified
We're not going to see the government as legitimate or legal anymore, and we're just going to stop paying attention.
We're going to stop paying taxes.
We're just not going to go along with what the government wants us to go along with.
And so it is a crisis of credibility.
It is of their own making.
And again, this gets back to that whole thesis that the people in charge of all of these covert operations and everything are still playing the game by the rules that work back at the height of the Cold War in the 50s and the 60s.
And they just don't understand how the flow of information through our society has drastically, fundamentally changed.
And they have to compartmentalize their minions, to where their minions think they're doing good work, and their own minions are finding out, and they're back-engineering it and finding out that they're really engaged in evil.
So they're having a crisis of credibility and conscience within their own system.
So I hope that everybody realizes the historical effect Literally standing up against this evil.
Jonathan, your take on what Mike and I were just saying?
unidentified
Um, you know, I just came across, somebody came to one of our WEIRD Change meetings the other day, somebody mentioned NASARA.
And, well, the idea that they were putting forth, out here in Colorado, we know a ton of people.
We're all very aware of the income tax fraud.
We all, America Freedom of the Press.
Fascism has been played on local access TV.
We've had it played there.
You know, we're ready for this exposure, and we're waking up the people every day.
However this happens, eventually we're going to get large enough, at least here in Colorado, and I don't know how it is elsewhere, that, yeah, you're going to be able to go somewhere, and pretty much everyone's on the same page.
Nobody's either paying their income tax.
Everyone wants a new investigation.
You've got people confronting politicians.
You know, out here in Colorado, it's very, very... It's all over the streets.
They're not going to be able to put a Hillary in and change horses in the middle of it and make us think that everything's okay because they put some new puppet in for the first time in modern U.S.
history since the last realignment 110, 115 years ago.
During this political realignment, both parties are being criticized, and Congress has an 11% approval rating.
Mike, I think we've broken their back.
Now, they're still a dangerous leviathan.
They can set off nukes, anything.
Do you think they're just going to do something really desperate, or are they going to realize that they have been destruto?
unidentified
You know, we've got so many people within the government who are realizing that things have really run their course, and those people left to themselves.
Basically, they're just going to run the government out until it collapses, like the Soviet Union.
unidentified
There are, of course, certain fanatics in the government who are still convinced that God is on their side, and if they set off a big enough scary monster, a nuclear explosion or biological attack, that the American people will magically line up behind them one more time for a march into the New World Order.
And, of course, these are very dangerous people, because they're not really listening and paying attention to what's going on out on the streets.
Now, I'd like to change direction here a little bit and address our other guests.
We are Change Colorado because the individual who came in spouting Nassara, you need to remember, and this goes all the way back to COINTELPRO in the 60s.
If you haven't studied the history of COINTELPRO, you need to.
As a group becomes visible and in the media, you will be subject to infiltration by people whose job it is to trick you into doing something that makes you look bad in the press.
And you need to be on the lookout for that, because you'll get people who come in and say, hey, we need to attract more attention and we can do it by splattering paint on a public building.
And so you need to be very careful because obviously you're having an impact I agree with confronting politicians and media people publicly, but do it politely.
There are too many groups forming, too many popping up.
That's another problem for where their infiltrators and operatives aren't having enough success.
But I do think once your We Are Change group gets up to about 20, you should call it, you know, We Are Change Southern Colorado, We Are Change Eastern, you know, whatever.
That's the cell format, but you're not hiding out as gorillas in cells.
Jonathan, Elenov, are you aware of the cell structure?
unidentified
Yes, we have a We Are Change Grand Junction and We Are Change Colorado Springs that's starting up right now, but I was going to say, you know, that's why, I don't know if you saw the Mitt Romney confrontation, that's me in the video there talking to Mitt Romney.
You know, we were able to get right in there and we had a formulated crowd around us that was Completely aware of what was going on, Romney made a fool of himself.
He completely ignored our questions.
And people hung around and went up to us and said, hey, you completely ignored your question there.
And we said, yes, we know.
We didn't get upset.
You know, there was no foul language.
There was no anger.
We wanted to expose Romney and local congressman Bob Beaupre for being essentially people who either are unfamiliar with this information or not interested in it or trying to ignore it.
And that achieves a lot.
Locally, here in Colorado, the Romney confrontation was a great success.
Clinton got a great success, but the thing is, with Clinton, we weren't able to get close enough up to him, so the only thing we could have done is heckle.
Luckily, we were large enough in the crowd to basically spread ourselves out and yell at different times, and if you watch the video, it goes on for about six minutes.
Clinton eventually addresses the issue, and people in the crowd came up to us afterwards and said he completely She spun the issue.
You said you wanted a new investigation, and he said you're one of those inside job guys.
Well, nobody said anything about a conspiracy or inside job.
And by the way, I want to get Mike and your take on this, Jonathan.
It just came out yesterday.
Now, it's a spin job.
New York Times writer talking about, you know, the 9-11 Commission Uncensored book comes out today.
And the AP reports that, oh, Philip Zelikow, he was working for the White House before, That was no secret.
We didn't need the New York Times to tell us that.
We've been reporting this for five years since they started setting up that commission.
He was there to whitewash.
The Bush appointed the commission.
But they're trying to make it look like the commission was legitimate and is now exposing the head staffer Yeah, absolutely.
Everybody in the Commission had a conflict of interest with the administration.
They were all insiders.
There were no really independent people.
said, okay, it's true, there was something rotten in the state of Denmark in the commission, but the commission was good, it was Bush's bad guy in there trying to stop the independent investigation.
What was it like once you started shouting, though?
Did all the butterflies go away and you just felt energized?
unidentified
It was a certain amount of righteous indignation, yeah.
I mean, really, it was just... Because you don't see people challenging our elected officials and our previously elected officials in that manner, so... Yeah, it felt good to get that off my chest.
Yeah, he's one of the greatest CIA propaganda officers out there we've ever seen.
We'll be right back.
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For listeners we have out in Colorado, be sure and join them.
Start your own We Are Change group or 9-11 Truth Group, InfoWars group, InfoWars news gathering organization.
Whatever organization you want to start, start it.
Call it whatever you like.
As you like it, as Shakespeare said, just get out there and take action.
We're going to have Rivero stand over with us.
I want to get into the communications lines being cut.
Going into areas of the Middle East and Central Asia.
A lot of other subjects with him for another 20 minutes to the next hour.
We've got We Are Change Colorado on with us right now.
Gentlemen, just in closing, again, I salute you.
I want to thank you for all you've done.
Any other points that you would like to add?
unidentified
I think that you made the best point there, Alex, is that we need to get out and get active.
Go join your own group.
Start your own group up.
Get out there and make something happen and understand that it's fun.
Sander Hicks, in an interview that we made of him when he was out in the Denver area, made this point extremely well in one of the videos that we have documented.
It is fun.
Don't look at it as a task.
Enjoy yourself.
And also, you know, we're switching a lot of the, you know, I talked to Luke Grodowski and we're switching a lot of the confrontations to Local representatives, local news media anchors, anything like that, you know, we really got to get out there and talk to the people who represent you in your county, in your state, in your city.
Now, was everyone hissing at you because you were talking bad about the great Bill Clinton, or were some people waking up?
unidentified
A lot of people were hissing, but it was amazing how many of them were not.
It really was.
I mean, it seemed to a certain extent like the audacity.
It was almost like they were in awe, like, wow, someone's challenging our God, Bill Clinton.
Yeah, there were people, we were, I was about 15, 20 feet from the stage, and when Adam, when you walked off, and you got like, you know, you went up to the bleachers, We were down in the immediate area where people were coming up to us with cameras.
They knew we were a group, eventually.
And security was there.
You could tell because they had the earpieces in.
And they were talking to us.
And while Bill was talking, we were holding our own conversations about 9-11, a new investigation.
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Well, absolutely, people should go to WeAreChangeColorado.org and go to that event.
Gentlemen, I just want to thank you both for joining us and give Mike Rivera the floor here in the last minute or two for any other points or questions he's got for you.
Well, the only comment I have, and again I join Alex Jones in applauding what you're doing, you're being visible, you're getting the word out there, you are reminding people that they are not alone in their doubts about the official story of 9-11 or the war or taxes or anything else.
unidentified
And again, my only advice is be careful that you're not being infiltrated and lured into doing something that makes you look bad because the government plays dirty and has a long history of doing that.
I mean, anybody who wants to do anything violent, anybody who wants to do anything illegal, anybody who wants to give you drugs, anybody who wants to... We really need to talk about no planes and space beams.
We got some highlights of the Willie Nelson interview coming up at the bottom of the hour.
We got Mike Rivera with us for another 15-20 minutes or so.
I got a bunch of immigration, Lou Dobbs news, the ADL saying he's a hate criminal now.
Oh man, they get our free speech, it's over.
But I want to keep Mike on because I want to talk about some geopolitical war issue, Ron Paul issue.
And first off, four internet undersea cables cut in a space of three days.
Uh, that is just astronomical.
Then people keep saying, well, there's still internet up.
It hasn't totally cut Iran and a few other countries like Egypt off, but they've got servers mirrored on DNS and CDNs, content distribution networks.
We have this, by the way, because we've been attacked and things have happened outside the country, and I went and did an analysis of it, but Mike knows a lot more than I do about these type systems.
I know I've got great IT people who basically told me this, but what's your take on the cables?
And, you know, if you look at the way the cables are constructed, they are really very, very durable.
unidentified
It's not just a bunch of optical fibers wrapped up in black electrician's tape.
And what is really interesting, and the reason so many people are suspicious about this, is that when the first two cables were cut, Off of Egypt in the Mediterranean.
The first thing that was hitting the press was, oh, well, they were probably cut by ships that dragged their anchors.
And for anybody who's done any sailing or spent any time on ships, you understand that ships don't drag their anchors.
And Egypt has video cameras that watch those cable access, the stretch of ocean where the cables are coming shallow, and confirmed there were no ships in the area when those cables were cut.
So whatever happened, happened entirely under the surface of the Mediterranean Sea.
So that was the first indication that something's going on where we're being fed a ludicrous story about dragging anchors.
And we also know Israel, this has now been declassified, what was it?
It was right during the whole Libyan thing in the late 80s.
They went and tapped in offshore, right by the station in 30 feet of water, into the Libyan radio transmitter system on their army radio and transmitted, we're going to launch terror attacks on America.
unidentified
Yeah, and that's what tricked Reagan into bombing Libya and killing Qaddafi's daughter.
So, you know, all this kind of stuff is definitely going on.
We don't know if any more have been cut since then.
Because of the redundant nature of the internet system, more cables may have been cut that we are just not aware of yet, according to some of the IT people that I talk to.
As far as Iran being on or off the net, the main router that is shown on the Internet Traffic Report still reports off, but obviously these countries have satellite links They have access to the older copper lines that they used to use before the optical fiber came along.
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He's interviewed and talked to the lawyers that ran it.
He got off all the felonies, as he should have, but not on the misdemeanors.
But those are going to get shot down as well, because he actually did fill out the forms.
Then we got Jesse Benton popping in on Super Tuesday to talk about the Ron Paul campaign.
I don't know how I'm going to play my Willie Nelson boil-down of the highlights.
But it's good to have a jam-packed transmission.
Mike Rivero, I just really enjoy your analysis.
It's spot-on.
There's always even more research on many issues than I've even dug up.
I want to get you back up before the month elapses.
This is very ominous in my view, these cables being cut, and the fact that our media is acting like it's not suspicious and calling it conspiracy theories makes me even more concerned.
unidentified
Yeah, like I said, normally I would have said, you know, these things break down, but when they started floating that anchor story, you know, the red lights went off because I've done enough sailing to understand that that story really did not have any merit to it at all.
And, you know, it may be related to Iran opening the oil bourse on the 12th.
I do know that the first of the repair ships will be at the first cable break tomorrow or Thursday, and we'll very quickly know exactly what happened to the cable, we hope.
unidentified
But whatever is happening, you know, if something is happening, if it has not been called off, it's going to happen quickly.
Well, the CIA, who during the Cold War actually had officers in command over those subs that would go up and tap into the Soviet cables, In literally 20-30 feet of water, we know that they would even tap into those, and in some cases they were also caught later cutting them, and making it look like a ship's anchor did it.
I mean, they engage in all sorts of chicanery, so I'm not even sure we'll know what cut them once they get there, because they have these dome bubbles, as you know, these feet that they put down over the cables when they do this, where these guys are working, you know, in the dry air on the cables.
unidentified
Yeah, and they have to do that now with the optical cables because the old-style inductance taps won't work anymore.
So they literally have to open the cable and maybe somebody just botched the job.
Yeah, but I don't think they'd botch five of them.
Who knows?
Mike, I mean, I have to tell you...
I think they may go ahead and hit Iran.
The word we get from the military is they don't care what the American people think.
They're going to go ahead and do it.
I don't see how they can do that politically without staging an event.
I mean, for two years has this built up.
You, Dr. Roberts, myself, Webster Tarpley, anybody who's anybody in analysis.
Has said that they're going to try to stage some Gulf of Tonkin.
Now it's come out, admitted weeks after you and I reported on it, and others, that they staged that.
That it was, you know, some Anglo voice coming in, doing a fake Arab voice.
I'm going to blow you up.
They say that it was staged.
The ships didn't do that.
The patrol boats didn't do what they said they did.
I mean, exactly what you said has now happened.
But luckily, it's not 30 years ago.
They didn't get away with it.
Now what's going to happen?
Mike, what do you predict now?
unidentified
Well, right now, the biggest problem that the warmongers have is that Russia is supporting Iran.
And the only way that they can conceive of invading and conquering Iran without Russia coming in is to do something that makes it look like Iran started the war.
The real danger, of course, is the oil bourse is going to accelerate the downward pressure on the dollar.
Saudi Arabia is already dropping hints that if Iran succeeds in getting their oil bourse up and running, that they too are going to start taking euros for their oil.
And without that foreign demand for the dollar as an oil exchange currency, we're going to see the dollar take a major, major beating.
And that is the real danger that Iran and Saudi Arabia represent to us, is that it's going to pull the supports out from our already crippled dollar.
And it's not that they're doing something wrong or evil or bad, because our government destroyed our own economy.
It's just when Saudi Arabia and Iran de-link from the dollar, they're doing it out of self-preservation, and inevitably the dollar will take a major hit from that.
We're going to get him up sooner than a month because we need his analysis on the war.
Even if you think you know it all, folks, you need to have counsel.
And speaking of counsel, one of the best constitutional lawyers, one of the most successful in the country, trained at the nation's top schools, but at the same time, he's had a great effect out there in the court cases, winning and winning.
And we have him joining us because he's been conferring with Snipes lawyers.
He's also been reading over the court record and reporters that covered it.
And I can't think of a better person to give us the lowdown.
Snipes cleared of felony tax fraud charges.
Hey Alex, how you doing?
a day later tried to spin this, this is CNN headline, and said, "Oh, but he was found guilty," yes, of misdemeanors.
This is a big deal and good for Wesley Snipes.
I know people that know him.
He is a total anti-New World Order patriot, just like Willie Nelson and everybody else who's got two brain cells to run together.
He was charged years ago, he ran into a fellow by the name of Eddie Cain, who had a Patriot Tax Organization down in Orlando, Florida.
I've defended a number of people that have relied upon Eddie, and Wesley Sipes turned out to be one of those people that was a client of Eddie.
Eddie was raided about three or four years ago, then the government turned around and sued him for one of these injunction suits.
He took off and fled down to Panama, and in the interim, the government came out with the indictment that involved Doug Roesel, Eddie Cain, and Wesley Snipes.
Now Wesley Snipes got involved with Eddie Cain, you know, he just heard about, you know, this guy could do something in reference to taxes, so Eddie educated him on a popular argument at the time, back in about 2000.
For lack of a better word, it's been commonly called the 861 argument.
In essence, the 861 argument says those that are required to file income tax returns are those that are external to the country, outside the country.
Non-resident aliens and citizens that reside abroad.
That's the basic legal theory.
It has a lot of legal support for it.
Wesley studied that and said, hey, I agree.
And then Doug Roesel is the guy that persuaded Along with Eddie, to have Eddie and the two of them get together with Snipes and they file these admitted returns to get back money that Wesley had paid in in taxes.
And from that point forward, after they did that, Wesley, even though he's a movie star and makes big bucks and has been filming movies all across the world, he didn't file income tax returns because of what he'd learned from Eddie Cain.
Ultimately, about a year and a half ago, An indictment was returned.
It charged in the indictment that there were three parties involved in the conspiracy to, you know, hurt the government.
And that was Eddie Kane, Doug Roesele, and Wesley Snipes.
And then the rest of the indictment charged specific tax offenses against Wesley alone.
Now, this creates a very interesting problem.
You know, you can have the venue, the place where you can bring a charge against people, typically is where the criminal offenses occurred.
So they could, in reference to the conspiracy, they could allege, well, you know, a lot of this stuff happened down here in Orlando.
Then they ultimately tried it in Ocala.
But, you know, the problem with the rest of the indictment is this.
You know, when you charge a specific tax crime against somebody, there's places where the criminal action can be pending.
One is at the service center, where the return should have been filed.
Or two, where the defendant lives.
Now there's a very interesting question that's presented here.
You know, when you have these six counts of tax crimes against Wesley Snipes, you know, how can they be included In an indictment pending in, or brought in, Orlando, Florida.
He lived in New York, and I guess the government's so sloppy that they didn't even think to try to try this right.
And some people will say, well, how dare his lawyers not put him on the stand and explain that there's a gold fringe and all the rest of that stuff, when the technicalities are what got him out of the felonies.
Here's the way I have viewed it, and I only had a chance over the last couple of months.
You know, Bob Bernhoff is one of the lawyers for Wesley Snipes, and Bob Barnes is the other lawyer.
Over the last couple of months, I haven't had an opportunity to talk to him, although last Friday, you know, when I was gone all of January, but last Friday when I got back from being out in Hawaii, I picked up the phone and called Bob and he just kind of gave me a little update because we hadn't talked in a long time.
I had a crowd going on when he had a crowd going on.
And I got a little bit of a, you know, I was going to call it later on this week, but I got kind of a heads up on what they've been doing in Wesley Snipes' case.
You know, pre-trial, what the issues that were created in reference to Wesley... Stay there, let's move quick with Larry Becraft on the other side who talked to Snipes' lawyer.
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We fired our crumbs and the British kept a-coming.
I've got to get him back up for a full hour in the next week or so to really flesh out the true nature of the income tax, the real arguments, the reality, and not all the patriot mythology that has sent so many people I even know to prison.
There are so many nut quacks who believe what they're saying and they they will not help you when you're going to prison.
This is a very serious issue and Uh, getting back to Wesley Snipes, uh, just boil down what actually happened in the four minutes we've got left, Larry, and where Wesley Snipes goes from here, what his lawyer told you.
Okay, well, not that he told me a whole lot because we didn't have a long time to talk.
These are the issues.
Wesley was prosecuted on the six counts and he died of the charged tax crimes.
Willful failure to file.
The two places where that crime can be brought is number one, where the defendant lives, or the service there, where he should have filed.
Now, during the course of the trial, I was reading, not that I liked the lady, J.J.
McNabb.
She calls herself Tax Mama, but it was the only website I could find that was giving kind of a blow-by-blow, daily recollection of the trial of the case.
And she was just sitting there wondering, you know, why are the defense attorneys asking these questions about where Wesley lives?
Well, you know, there's a dispute about where Wesley lives.
And Wesley maintains that he lives in New York.
For that reason, the venue for tax prosecutions in Ocala, Florida or Orlando, Florida is completely wrong.
That is a very solid issue for appeal.
That's point number one.
Point number two is that when they were trying the case, Or leading up to trial, you know, the defense sent out and did a survey of the Ocala, Florida area where Wesley's trial was held.
And they did a survey and found out that, you know, there's the racial preference down there, you know, the racial percentages of the population were not reflected in the jury panels that were being called in to sit in cases.
So they made that motion.
So you got two good, solid issues.
They're preserved on appeal that I dare say will win on appeal and result in a reversal of what Russell has been convicted of.
In certain situations, when you're sitting there and going through a trial, you can detect that the government's got a weak case.
Well, that's the same thing that happened in Joe Bannister's case.
Jeff sat there and listened to it and said, this is a weak case.
They didn't put Joe Bannister, the former IRS agent that was being prosecuted by his former buddies, they didn't put Joe on, and the jury came back and acquitted him.
Now, the same thing happened here in Wesley Snipes' case, you know, on the big felony counts, you know, on the conspiracy count.
You know, as the government presented its evidence, the defense said, hey, this is weak.
And they took a risk, you know, any trial strategy is a risk, but they took that risk and they were gambling on and betting, based on the evidence, that the jury would not acquit, would not convict Wesley Snipes of the major felony counts, and that's exactly what happened.
And they convicted him on the willful failure to file counts, for which you've got some very good issues that I think are going to result in reversals on appeal.
They got the venue issue in reference to the prosecution of the tax crimes.
Should have been prosecuted up in New York and not in Ocala, Florida.
And number two, you know, the composition of the jury.
You know, where are all the blacks?
You know, if you get into an area where You know, 99% of the people are going to be white.
You know, that's prejudicial against Westin.
So I think they've got very strong issues for appeal.
Personally, I don't think that Westin Snipes ever are going to have sentencing.
He's probably going to get probably three years on those misdemeanor convictions.
However, I'm sure he'll get bond on appeal.
And I bet the 11th Circuit is going to reverse Westin Snipes' conviction.
Then he'll ultimately have to be tried up in New York if the government wants to pursue it further.
And again, you and a couple other real patriot lawyers are able to get people off.
Others have been able to beat it in court as well.
But I don't see anybody with these fraudulent patriot Moon is made of cheese arguments, ever winning, and I just have a moral responsibility to warn people, and I need to get you up for a full hour or longer sometime, Mr. Becraft, to walk through... You do that, Alex!
I'm going to have my producer actually call you now since you're at the office, Larry, and set that up.
Let me just talk to you during the break, because 15-20 minutes of airtime isn't enough time here.
And I want to get you up soon, because this is such a central issue.
All right, thank you, Larry Becraft.
We'll be right back.
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I'm sure most of your listeners, as avid as they are, have been paying attention to what our strategy is.
And our strategy has been to focus on some of the smaller states, especially smaller states that have caucuses.
We might not have the widespread, top-to-bottom, mainstream media-driven support that a John McCain might have, but what we do have is a really powerful, strong, deep grassroots network that's very committed, very intense, and I think that our success in a lot of the caucuses shows how well we can do.
You know, we recently won about a third of the delegates in Maine.
We believe that we won Louisiana, if they had counted the votes correctly, and we placed second in Nevada.
All smaller caucus states.
So we can compete dollar for dollar with some of the bigger candidates.
He does have about 40 delegates, but we think he's topped out.
We don't see him doing too much more.
It's all about delegates today, Alex.
We get people out to our caucuses, and we can win a substantial portion of delegates.
If we can walk away today with a bunch of delegates in the bank, then we'll be really strong to move forward into Texas, and move forward into some other states that we think we can win, especially if we get a little bit more mainstream media back in states like Idaho, Washington State, down the line.
So, again, today's delegates, I can't stress enough to all the loyal listeners out there, all the loyal supporters, you've got to get to your caucus in the caucus states.
If you're in North Dakota, Minnesota, Colorado, Alaska, get out there, please, get to your caucuses, and then the primaries, too.
We need strong showings in primaries.
Every single vote is going to help us in places like Tennessee, where we think we've got a lot of support, New York.
Please, get out there, vote in your primary, get to your caucus.
Now, whatever happened with, I know we're looking forward, but whatever happened with Louisiana, because I was hearing first place, second place, you guys said there was some problems.
What's the final word, at least right now, on that?
Well, Louisiana GOP has declared the results final, and they have us in second place to Romney.
We believe that we won Louisiana.
There were about 500 provisional ballots that were thrown out because they said that people that had cast these ballots were not properly on the voter rolls as of November 30th, We think that they were using a bad list and that they should have counted those provisional ballots.
There were just a whole bunch of consistencies and inconsistencies and problems with the entire caucus process.
You know, we don't think necessarily that there's anything nefarious going on, but we do think that there was perhaps some incompetence and a lot of mistakes.
And we just want the ballot counted.
People voted.
You know, when people turn out and vote, we think it's pretty important that they're not disenfranchised, that their votes are counted.
We do not think that people of Louisiana were properly treated in this caucus.
So, we've considered moving forward with some kind of legal action.
We're not sure that we're going to do that, but it is a real shame that there were 500 and some provisional ballots thrown out, 500 and some.
Louisiana, that we think wanted to vote very heavily for Dr. Paul Disenfranchised.
And I would say this, first of all, to tribute to the presidential campaign.
We are going to move forward tomorrow.
We are going to have delegates at the back.
We are going to move forward.
And this thing is going to keep going forward as a presidential campaign and also as a movement.
There is something, even if we fail at our bid to the White House and we haven't given up on that yet, we're still fighting the big fight.
There is going to be a movement that's going to come out of this, an organization that is going to help elect constitutional Ron Paul Republicans to Congress and is going to continue to spread the message.
So continue to contribute, continue to support, and you people out there in states like Pennsylvania, Washington State, Idaho that haven't gotten a chance to vote yet, keep up your energy and your passion.
It's your energy and passion that's going to let this thing move forward and give us good chances at accomplishing great things.
And second of all, we need to make sure that Ron Paul keeps his congressional seat in the 14th district.
If you go to RonPaulForCongress.com, we have another place where you can contribute anything that people out there can afford to give.
And he's praised Ron in the past, said Ron was a great citizen, sliced bread, and also promised that if Ron ran for president that he wouldn't run for his congressional seat.
But he's gone back on his word, and he's trying some real distasteful smear tactics against Ron.
He doesn't support the troops, he voted against body armor for the troops.
He doesn't support our president enough.
You know, people in the 14th district, they've heard this all before.
They know who Ron Paul is.
They know he's the taxpayer's best friend.
But we just need to make sure that that congressional race just gets just enough money that there's no threat there.
We've got to watch the cheating, which we all know is going on.
In closing, Jesse Benton, look, we're all going to maximum output now into the next sectors of the primary.
But people want to look forward into the second half of the game or to know there's a second half of the game.
Are you looking at brokered convention or are you looking at the third party?
Because I think you've got the grassroots.
We've got the grassroots to put him on the ballot.
I know he'll then get the money.
He'd be in a three-way or four-way with Bloomberg coming in.
And I think Ron Paul I mean you never say never with things like that.
third party.
I know that you don't want to cross that bridge now, but he's even now been softening his stance, the congressman, and saying, yeah, things have changed.
When might we, I mean, I know you have to find out what happens first, but when might we start finding out what the second half's going to look like?
Well, I know we've got the Congressman coming on next week or the week after that.
I need to get him on quick and I want to get his take on how we'll deal with the Brokered Convention because this is something that is an unknown country for a lot of our listeners.
They don't know what a Brokered Convention is and I'd like to hear The congressman's take on that.
So we know what the in-game strategy is here.
So people understand that we are still in this game in a big way.
And bottom line, we've already won because people are being educated about the true nature of government, the Constitution.
You know, when there were 11 candidates starting out a year ago, nobody had heard of Ron Paul.
Would anybody have thought, would anybody have bet a month's grocery money that we'd be standing here right now with delegates in the bank, Probably in third place overall with still a shot in this ball game to win the Hall enchilada.
So much of the message has been spread.
We've already won big time and we hope to continue this victory.
The day it happened, I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical.
I said, wait a minute, I just saw that last week at the casino over in Las Vegas, and you see these implosions all the time, and the next one fell, and hell, there's another one.
And they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it, and that's, you know, I can't go along with that.
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The whole police state apparatus they built up after 9-11, and I want to get your take on this, Willie, because I know you're aware of it, is now being used against the people.
They're not even talking about the boogeyman of Al-Qaeda anymore.
No, and I do believe that it's a long time until election day and some sort of national crisis could put off the elections and we could have George in there ten years longer.
I was saying that many years ago and now Bob Woodward's talked about others setting up for martial law of all people.
Naomi Wolf is talking about it.
I think that might save us.
I'm seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.
But I think you're right.
I think that's a great danger.
If that did happen, a nuke went off, a biological weapon was released, or terrorists supposedly blew up a bunch of other buildings, what do you think the response of the population should be if they announce we're under this new emergency?
It could be an economic emergency, and Bush is going to have to stay on to save us.
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Well, again, the troops are under orders, and if they don't do what they, you know, the orders are that they get shot, so the troops have no choice.
There's a few of them in there that are there because they I think it's the right thing to do.
There are a few there because they just like to fight.
But there's a lot of them, like you say, that would rather be home with their families and save our good men and women for something that really matters, for really something that is the defense of our country.
If we need some people down here on the borders, let's take 150,000 people out of Iraq and put them on the borders of Canada and Mexico.
Well, yeah, and they're fighting over there, because you remember the old joke about the guy that dropped a quarter and he was looking around, and I said, where did you lose it?
I said, I lost it over yonder.
And he said, what are you looking over here for?
I said, well, I call the lights better.
I think that's why they're over there with the lights better.
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We're out of time with that interview.
It's up on PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, boiled down, some of the most hardcore stuff he's said, to about ten minutes.
Nine minutes, 44 seconds.
If you want to get technical, you just heard about seven minutes of it.
Get it, email it out to everybody.
They're trying to censor it.
It has not broken out into the mainstream media because they don't want to have to attack him because he's so loved.
But Willie came out and went public because he wants it out.
He told me that.
He wants people to look at it.
He wants people to investigate Building 7.
If we don't turn this around, they're going to stage more events.
And I need you to go to PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com and get the articles that we have written about this, the original article that's in the News and Focus section on the right-hand column of PrisonPlanet.com, where Willie Nelson talks about the controlled demolition of the towers.
We absolutely... This is a test of the alternative media to see if we can make this story go supernova.
We are now 24 hours into the interview.
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We were ending the interview this time yesterday.
This is up to you.
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Are you going to get it out to everybody?
Are you going to let them... See, Willie Nelson talking about how he's worried about a dictatorship, martial law, government-sponsored terror.
This is a big deal.
We need to get this out everywhere.
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This is big.
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Hit them, ladies and gentlemen.
This is a big... It's like they've ignored Ron Paul.
We forced them to cover him.
We've got to force this to be reported on.
We'll give you all the details of what happened on Super Tuesday tomorrow.
More guests.
Ron Paul's either scheduled this week or early next.
You heard Jesse Benton.
Give the nod on that.
God bless you all.
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