The second thing is that Alex has hated Rudy Giuliani for years because of his 9-11 stuff. Even in 2009, all the episodes that I'm listening to, they play a commercial on every episode. Multiple times for a 9-11 documentary that I believe Jason Burmus might have made or someone InfoWars adjacent. And it ends with a clip of Rudy Giuliani saying, if you're not with us... You're with the terrorists. Yeah. So it's the punchline of their 9-11 conspiracy commercial.