Like, I was going back and forth with, like, what is the reason for this happening? And I think a big reason for it is they're both white identity guys. And Richard Spencer has recently broken with Trump. And that is something that's relevant to Alex. I think he wants to bring him on to humiliate him because, oh, yeah, you're turning on Trump just what a globalist would do. Exactly. That kind of thing. That motivation makes total sense. Similarly, I think that there might be a kernel of it that is, I want to bring on someone who's demonstrably a white nationalist, white supremacist, and distance myself from them because everyone thinks that I'm that. If I'm publicly disagreeing with this guy, then haha. Right. I think that there's possibly a very complex motivation.