That still counts for a lot. But of his own accord, G. Edward Griffin doesn't need Alex. And so the conversation that the two of them have, there's an entire power imbalance. Because also, G. Edward Griffin isn't as interested as someone like Steve Pieczenik in just abusing Alex for his own manipulative game. Just for fun. Yeah. Yeah, he's bored. Pachenek is bored. Right. And G. Edward Griffin has his own industry. Like, he has his own books that he sells. And, like, he doesn't need Alex as a promotional tool.