Alex Jones, I got to tell you right away, man, you are in my top three dream guests for this podcast. I've wanted you on this show for so long, and thank you for.

Oh, listen, you know, that's where I first met you was through Joe. Not in the flesh, but when I got to be friends with Joe, we go over to his house, get stoned, and we had like old school InfoWars, Alex Jones stuff on VHS, and we'd sit and watch it and just freak the fuck.

You know, the term Orwellian, it gets used too much these days, but I think if George Orwell saw what the current surveillance state looks like. You said my prediction came true. I think he'd say, holy fuck, it would be better to live in that world that he.

But there's, I think most people have a sense that they're being nudged. Every time you go online, you're being nudged by the algorithm a little bit.

I got 4chan to X. You know, I just look at what's going on, like the most recent posts, and 80% of the stuff on X is AI.

The CIA was looking into methods beyond chemicals listing hypnosis, sensory deprivation, gases, and other psychological methods for interrogation and behavioral control.

Artichoke served as a precursor to the CIA's MKUltra program, which later broadened mind-altering experiments on a larger scale.