Ted Gunderson told me this over dinner once. So when I saw this a few days ago, I thought that can't be real. And I went and checked it. Ted Gunderson said, sitting there, they were like a Luby's cafeteria. He's like, listen, you tell me all this stuff there. And he goes, this was the FBI just rattling this off. He's like, what they like to do is starve the babies, including the toddlers, and not feed them for a couple of days. And that's their favorite thing to do. So they can then perform fellatio on the men.