But I mean, these were sick, sick people connected to sick, sick activities. You know, when his anonymous ex accounts got outed years later, showed the kind of depravity this guy was into. And it just, it's who these people are because fundamentally it all makes sense. The, what are you fundamentally? You're not really a Republican, a Democratic, conservative, whatever. You, after a four hour deposition, called it all just watching him. Yeah, because it was there. It was because down deep, what are you? You're a humanist. Who's going to come after you? People that are anti human. And you were just seeing it on full display. This guy was physically, it's like being in the room with a demon. I mean, it was that kind of behavior. I mean, the, that if you pick up energy and emotions and psychology, if you're around it enough or if you have a certain kind of, Personality, then you pick that up. And it was being in a dark, dark, dark room. It was like hanging out at Skull and Bones or something. It was that kind of, it was just a dark energy that surrounded it, that enveloped it, that you could see dominated it. I mean, these are people that seem to get a kick out of the kids dying. I mean, these are just sick, sick people.