If you ram any vehicle, especially that one that contains law enforcement agents, and that's any law enforcement, local, state, federal, county, and you do this intentionally, this is considered deadly force. Deadly force is anything that can cause great bodily harm or death. When you plow into a vehicle that contains law enforcement agents, you're using deadly force.

I'd say it's lasted way after summer. And I think if law enforcement doesn't do the right amount of, gives the route the right amount of force, I think that we're going to see George Floyd 2.0 on steroids.

There are no, there is no longer trust in institutions and political institutions and law enforcement institutions. They have repeatedly failed us, and they're failing us with greater frequency and with greater severity.