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Eric Trump kicks off the conversation talking about his new book, Under Siege, My family’s fight to save our nation. The Trump family came under attack when President trump was in office and when he was running for office. The family was subpoenaed, de-banked, sued, indicted and there were multiple attempts on the President’s life. Clay talks about the business conference in Dec, they business conference consists of entrepreneurs like Eric Trump and they are going to help people build or expand their businesses. Eric talks about when he and his family were de-banked and he discovered bitcoin. Bitcoin is digital gold and the banks cannot do anything to harm your wealth, as the [DS]/D’s continue to attack the country the country is waking up.
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Hi, and welcome to the X22 Report Spotlight.
Today we have two guests, Clay Clark and Eric Trump, and I'm going to introduce Clay first.
Clay, I want to welcome you to the X22 Report Spotlight, and thank you for joining us.
Dave, I'm honored to be here with you.
Thank you so much for the opportunity.
Hey, thank you for being here.
And our second guest today is Eric Trump, and I am very happy and honored to have him on here.
He has his new book out called Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation.
And I am very happy to have Eric on the X22 Report Spotlight.
Eric, welcome to the spotlight.
David, great to be back.
Hey, thanks for being here.
And might as well just start off with your book here.
Um you wrote this book, and I just wanted to know what motivated you to write the book.
So Dave, I came up with the title uh a couple years ago, right?
I mean, they were doing everything they could to take out my father, to take out our family, you know, to take out our movement, the MAGA movement.
You know, they impeached my father twice, they spied on his campaign, they wrote dirty dossiers, you had the Russia collusion hoax.
Um they weaponized the DOJ, they weaponized the FBI, they raided Mar-a-Lago, they took him off the ballot in Maine, they took him off the ballot in Colorado, they gag ordered him in in every jurisdiction in the country.
You know, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook.
They they stripped him of of all of his accounts while you know the Ayatollah and and uh, you know, Boca Haram and and and Al-Qaeda and all these other guys stayed on there.
I mean, they did everything they could to destroy us.
They they you know, they got rid of our bank accounts.
They deplatformed us.
You know, Capital One came after us like we were, you know, uh i I mean, they they literally shut down three hundred bank accounts in the middle of the night on on our company.
I mean, they did everything they could to to, you know, uh to hurt my father, uh to to break apart his his marriage, to break apart our relationships, to break apart our family.
I became the most subpoenaed person in American history with 112 subpoenas in that period of time.
And And so I started thinking about it.
You know, I I I said, listen, all they want is they want to put us under siege, right?
Like that's what this is.
They want to bankrupt us, they want to deprive us of of time, of resources, they want to put us in jail.
And then they tried to kill my father.
They tried to kill him in Butler, then they tried to kill him again at the golf course in in Palm Beach.
Then recently you saw what they did with with Charlie Kirk.
Yeah.
And so this book is is it's all the inside stories, not only growing up, um, and and by the way, there's a lot of uh incredibly inspirational, you know, aspects of it, but it it's how the system lashed out to a family who wanted to come in and save our country, save our nation, uh save the American flag,
save save religion, uh, save freedom of speech, uh, the weaponization of government and and and everything they tried to do to destroy a family and a movement and and and people, uh, and how we would not break and how we would not cower um and and how we rose tall above all of it, and how we ultimately ended up winning against every unimaginable odd.
It's absolutely amazing how you guys got through all of this because I think they threw everything in the kitchen sink at you guys.
And I mean, I mean, because of Charlie Kirk and what we're seeing now, we're seeing a lot of violence starting to be put I mean I mean when I'm looking across the country, I'm I'm starting to see like a lot of violence in many different locations, and I see that cash and Pam Bondi and your your father, they're they're bringing in law enforcement into all these different areas.
Do you think with everything that's going on, do you think they're going to escalate the violence as more indictments come down?
Well, you know what, uh you know, Dave, uh you know, when the narrative has been lost, uh resort to violence.
I mean, that seems to like you know, over the course of history, that's always what they've done.
I mean, they they've lost the narrative.
I mean, we won every swing state as you know, we won the popular vote.
As you know, we won eleven counties in California that had never been won before.
We won Miami-Dade County by eleven points, a county that hasn't been won by a Republican in thirty-seven years, right?
They've lost the narrative.
I mean, the the Democrats are polling at the lowest they've they've ever polled at before.
And so guess what?
They you know, they've called you and me and and Clay and everybody else, they've called us fascists for years.
They've called us sexists.
They've used every word in the in the book, and yet, you know, despite the fact that they're calling us fascists, they're the ones that are dressing up in black and and standing on rooftops, you know, kneeling on rooftops and you know, shooting 31-year-old kids in front of crowds who are, you know, exercising their First Amendment right, but yet they're the ones calling us, you know, quote unquote fascists.
It's it's really, you know, it's is rather it's rather unbelievable.
What came out of this is that Charlie Kirk since his assassination, I mean, we've seen his chapters like that they're growing like wildfire.
I mean, especially in Oklahoma.
Isn't that where you are located, Clay?
In Oklahoma?
I'm in Oklahoma, the only state, by the way, where all seventy-seven counties voted for Trump.
And I'll just tell you this with uh uh Charlie Kirk.
I mean, this is a guy he was actually on the reawaken uh America Tour stage three times.
I had a chance to uh uh get to know him.
Uh Eric was obviously a close friend of Charlie's, and all I could say is what Charlie Kirk did uh to awaken uh so many people to the importance of our Constitution and to uh just the overall concept of what makes America exceptional.
Uh so many people have lost that.
They were being indoctrinated on the college campuses, college students are going to college and being taught that capitalism is a bad thing.
They're being told that American exceptionalism is a is a bad thing.
And Charlie Kirk unapologetically stood up for the Constitution for for God, for faith, for family, and uh as we pray for his family and anybody that was uh uh deeply affected by the loss of Charlie Kirk, I can tell you the death of Charlie Kirk has filled America's churches.
And I'll just briefly give you two examples.
There's a church I work with right here in Tulsa, Oklahoma called Sheridan.church, Sheridan.church, no affiliation to Charlie Kirk.
We've you know, the pastor of Sheridan Church has been on the stage with Charlie Kirk before, and they're they're they were friends.
But our church was completely filled and continues to be completely filled every Sunday since the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
The chapters have been seeing record numbers of people requesting to become members of the Charlie Kirk Foundation and the turning pro that the uh turning point organizations.
So and Eric, maybe you maybe you've seen this similar results, but all I'm seeing is These churches that I work with directly to help them grow, they are being filled each and every Sunday since the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Eric, do you think the the country, with everything that happened to your father, with everything, you know, where they where they came after your family.
Do you think the country now is is more awake than ever before?
No question about it.
I mean, I I I speak about this a lot, but it's the law of unintended consequences, right?
They thought they could imprison him.
They thought they could put him in a courtroom.
They thought they could deprive him of money.
They thought they could have us spend three, four hundred million dollars on legal fees, you know, and and and bankrupt us.
They thought they could do it all.
They thought they could make our lives so damn uncomfortable that we just throw in the the towel and say, you know what, it's much better life just to hang out in our lago, you know, or run a nice company, fly around on Trump Force One, you know, and and and they got it, they got it wrong.
But beyond that, the the unintended consequence was the American people saw through the sham, right?
They did not like the mugshot.
They uh it did my father didn't need a mug shot.
He's the most recognizable person on planet earth.
You know, yet they insisted on the mugshot.
Why did they want to do that?
For an embarrassment factor.
Congratulations.
You know what that did?
That pissed off the entire country.
When they put my father in uh a courthouse, they shut down all of downtown New York for literally an eight-week period of time for a $130,000 payment that he didn't even make.
You know what that did?
That pissed off all of the country, and they realized this whole thing was uh a sham when they indict him 34 times, right?
When you know I've never gotten a traffic ticket, and yet I get 112 subpoenas.
You know, guess what that does?
That pisses off the entire country.
When when they find out that Russia Gates was a hoax and the first impeachment was a hoax and the second impeachment was a hoax.
And then they try and take their hero off the ballot in Colorado, and they try and take their hero off the ballot in Maine, and they shut down his Facebook accounts and his his his Twitter accounts.
You know what they so it's this law of unintended consequences, and and there's no question that my father, between his very, very loud voice and the silly actions and and and the fact that, you know, you know, uh you can only cry wolf so many times before people figure out who the hell you are.
And they kept on crying wolf, and people in this country did not like it, and they rejected it categorically, hence the reason we won uh in as spectacular of a fashion as we did.
And you know, and and Dave, so much of that is the point of of under siege.
When you look at like the population of the of the country, I mean, yes, we the Republicans and a lot of independents are on the side of Trump.
Do you think the Ds are I mean, I'm not talking about the far lefties, uh, the moderate D's.
Do you think they're starting to wake up now and they're starting to realize what's going on?
I think so many of them have, right?
And and and you can see that in the numbers, right?
The Democratic Party is the the weakest it's ever been.
You know, second of all, you you have this kind of paradox right now.
You know, the the media, unlike 2016, has really no influence anymore.
Like, you know, uh the stories that they put out there just don't sing like they used to.
You know, before you used to have an NBC or CBS, they had put out one story and they could just crush you with with with their power and their weight, and they could spin up an entire narrative.
The reality is the media is the the the most you know, it's kind of distrusted group in in this country now.
So you you've got the Democratic Party that's faltering, but but really their the pull you know, their you know, PR arm, which was the mainstream media in this country, um is is all but useless right now, and then you have independent voices like yours and and the Joe Rogans of the world who are who have massively filled a void.
And so there's no question that they are weaker than they've ever been before.
Um first of all, their policies stink.
Second of all, they were caught time and time again.
Third, people just don't like who these people are.
Fourth, they've got no messengers right now because you know, you tell me who's leading the Democratic Party.
Um, you know, they have no leaders, they have no they're wrong on every issue.
I mean, they they fought like hell against crime in the cities, uh right.
It's like look what look at Chicago.
You know, please don't send the National Guard in there to stop the shootings on weekends.
Like congratulations.
Like Republicans are winning that issue by by one hundred percent.
Same thing with, you know, fentanyl coming across our borders, same with illegal immigration, you know, in this nation.
Uh you know, the the the Democrats aren't on the right side of any of these issues, and it's one of the reasons that I think Republicans are picking up so much ground.
Aaron Powell As we approach the midterms, I know they're a year off, but I I think the midterms are very important.
Yes, the presidential race was very, very important, but I think this time around, I think the the midterms are going to be very, very important, especially for your father to move forward with getting certain laws passed, because there's a lot of rhinos in there.
Uh we know there's a lot, like you know, uh a lot of D's that are just crazy like J Jasmine Crockett and all the rest.
It's uh I think the midterms are going to be very important.
What what do you think about that?
I I'd say my f one fair warning, and I can't tell you how many times I've heard it in my kind of you know, quote unquote political career where people have come up to me and, you know, Eric, my guy's not on the ballot.
They're talking about my father.
My guy's not on the ballot, so I'm not gonna go out and vote.
And I go, please, please, please don't think that way.
Please, I beg you not to think that way.
Like, you know, you need to get out.
I don't care that Donald Trump's not on the ballot, and I know he's your guy, and I know he's the only one that's excited to you about politics and in your entire adult, you know, life, but like you have to get out there and vote because without your vote, it it's all meaningless.
Like, you know, he he's not able to accomplish all the things that he could accomplish if so get out there and vote.
And I I say that to the entire audience because, you know, I know your your audience is is is very you know keyed into uh to you know kind of the political topics, but people have to get out there and they have to vote.
You can't just sit at home because you know, the guy you love is sitting behind, you know, the desk in the Oval Office.
That does not work, right?
You're making him less effective by doing that.
And so, you know, people have to move out and and and and and get to the polls and and vote.
And uh you know, I I think we're in a great spot.
I really do.
Yeah, I I think people are starting to learn that we just can't sit back anymore and just let whoever is running the government run the government.
I think we've done that for a long time, and look what happened.
We let the kids, you know, move into the into DC, they're running everything, destroying everything, and now the adults have to step up and say, okay, kids, enough is enough.
I mean, I think we you know, whoever has kids, they understand like you let them go a little bit, you let them do certain things, and then you finally say, enough is enough.
And then the adult steps in.
Clay, you have any thoughts?
Yeah, I have well, I have a lot of thoughts.
I have a big stack of stuff here, and Eric, if you'll let me get into my stack of stuff real quick here.
Um, first off, I met uh Dr. Peter Navarro through the Reawaken tour, and Dr. Navarro, he said, Clay, I love you, man, because you operate in Trump time.
And I said, What does that mean?
He said, uh Clay, as working directly with Donald J. Trump, the the whole Trump family does this thing called Trump time, or you might call it action time.
And so, Dave, what I want to encourage everybody to do here is President Trump is in the White House trying to do thousands of things to save our country, and he's doing a great job.
But if you're watching today's show and you say, I want to go into Trump time, I want to take action.
What can I do to help save this country?
I have got three calls to action for every one of your listeners right now.
And I know, Dave, you have some of the best listeners in the world, so I'm challenging everybody watching this show to take three action steps.
One, we've got to get Eric to the top of this New York Times bestsellers list.
I mean, come on now.
We can't let Kamala Harris even be close.
Right now, under siege, if I'm correct, Eric, your book uh is I believe the number one book in multiple categories, if not all categories on Amazon right now.
But again, folks, we got to be number one on the New York Times bestsellers list.
And so as this show comes out here, we'll call it late September, early October.
Folks, you gotta buy a Christmas gift for everybody in your family right now.
So if you're watching today's show, you've got six kids, seven kids, one kid, you have twelve Democrats in your family.
Buy a copy of the book for all your kids and all the Democrats in your family.
You gotta buy the book.
Second thing I want to score here is uh since I've met Eric Trump through these uh reawaken America tour events.
If you're watching today's show and you're an entrepreneur, that's your normal.
Every single day there's a lawsuit, there's a legal issue, there's somebody going over budget, somebody going over time, there's an issue, there's a hiring problem, there's a there's a branding issue, there's a website problem.
That's what entrepreneurship is, it's solving problems.
And what I love about Eric's book, uh Eric wrote this book at the age of 41.
It's the same year, the same age that Donald J. Trump wrote his first book.
So the book, The Art of the Deal, came out when Donald J. Trump was 41 years old.
And Eric, you've been running, I believe, the Trump organization for over a decade, and your book is filled with action steps that are super practical for guys like me that own businesses.
And I I I find the book to be a real page turner.
And I'd love to see it share, see you, Eric, if you could share a little bit about what your book teaches uh entrepreneurs out there.
Because I know there's somebody watching today's show who feels who feels perpetually under siege.
And your book really goes into great detail about your family's approach to business.
Well, Clay, that's exactly right.
I mean, literally, it was it was us growing up on construction sites, sold the lessons of my father kind of you know instilled in us, ingrained in us uh over the years, both you know, kind of moral lessons, no drinking, no drugs, no smoking, but I mean ever every every lesson in the boardroom, you know, how how he raised us, how he instilled kind of his ways in in all of us.
Um at the same time, how he led us and and and forced us to fight um, you know, and and and succeed.
You know, How he exp expected per perfection from uh from all of his kids and you know and frankly, how we grew up to be such a tight family that, you know, the siege could not break.
They tried to break us, guys.
They they they tried to destroy his marriage, they tried to destroy the relationship I have with our siblings, they tried to destroy our portfolio.
And so, you know, Clay, you said that, and you're one of the very few people who have actually read the book ahead of time.
It's been a very, very kind of close-knit group.
But, you know, I I hope for every single person out there who's an entrepreneur who who feels like the walls are coming crashing in all the same time.
You know, they read this and say, oh my God, what they tried to do to you using the magnitude of the entire mainstream media and the entire government, including every DA and AG, wow.
And if you can fight through it and you can you can win and you can survive and you can prosper and you can become bigger and stronger than ever before, you know, so can I. So, you know, I I mean the topic can be dark, right?
The the siege and the political corruption at the same time.
I I think the the the book is is very much full of of hope, aspiration, uh, and life and kind of self-teaching.
And uh I wrote every word of this book.
I'm incredibly proud of it.
And and uh as Clay said, it, you know, David went to number one on on Amazon and in virtually every single category.
And um and yes, Clay, we are going to become number one on New York Times.
I encourage everybody go out, you know, uh buy a copy for for their liberal aunt.
Um you know, it it's gonna be hard for them to rebut anything in this book because it's just fact.
Um but uh no, I'm very very proud of what we've created.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
No, I think what we have to do is like we've always done with certain songs that come out, we always push them to number one on iTunes.
And now that you wrote a book, I think we all need to get together and push it to the top, you know, because we know Kamala has her ridiculous book out there and you know, but we we need to show the uh the deep state players that we are the majority, we're the base, we're the people.
And by I think when we push things to the top and and we push songs or shows or movements or books to the top, I think it shows the entire country and the world that we are the majority.
That's one way that we actually show how powerful we we really are and how together we really are.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
Dave, let me give you a little controversial.
You know, I I so the publisher of the book came to me and they said, I I've never seen a book get so many large bulk pre-orders as Kamala's book.
So, you know, to me it's it it seems very clear that she's just going out and having all the democratic political entities go out and and and right, it's it's probably no different than what happened in in 2020 where they just rigged the hell out of the system and you know, but they're they're it it feels, you know, and and from what I'm being told, certainly it it seems like that's uh that that's hugely apparent, but they go, listen, we we publish hundreds of books a year, and and never have we seen such large, massive amounts of of singular pre-orders come in and uh you know and and and buy the book.
So uh you know, I I I don't think any conservative that should surprise you that you know they're they're they're willing to play the games um, you know.
Um as always, we're not we're not playing those games and you know we're gonna win because it's the best book, it's the best uh it's the best topic and and and we've got the greatest movement in the history of politics and the greatest people out there who all lived the same story that you lived and I lived and play lived where they tried to destroy everybody's lives and we ended up winning.
And so um I I just thought it was kind of interesting that uh you know that that that's being said out there in the in in the book universe.
Listen, if they can rig an election, they can rig book sales.
That's it's that I I don't think it's that difficult for them to do it, and that's what they always do.
I remember when Andrew Cuomo came out with his book and he got I don't know, a couple millions of dollars and someone figured it out and it was like $10,000 a book because he didn't sell any books.
And I think that this is what they do to to pay these people off or whatever, and it's not really true book sales.
So uh remember his book was called, I think what lessons in leadership, right?
He wrote a book, you know, effectively patting himself on on the back for, you know, leading New York through through COVID, even though, you know, he was sending hospital patients to you know to to nursing homes and you know, mm misreporting death figures and you know ended up getting spanked on the butt for doing so and and you know, and and and frankly getting thrown out of being governor of a state for you know for so many of those actions.
But you know, they go go go figure that's the state of the uh you know the Democratic Party.
Aaron Powell Since you run a you know multi-billion dollar corporation, Your father is now creating a tariff system, just like McKinley did and Andrew Jackson did.
And he has external revenue coming in.
And I think people are a little concerned, a little confused because they've never seen anything like this before.
I mean, throughout everyone's lifetime, no one has seen tariffs the way he's doing tariffs right now and the deals that he is making.
And how does this affect businesses?
How is this going to benefit businesses?
Because I think a lot of business owners, a lot of people are out there, they're like, okay, we had, you know, we have the Fed and we have the Internal Revenue Service, and now he's creating the tariff system, which is the external revenue service.
How is this going to affect me?
So how is it affecting your business?
Yeah.
I think it's going to be an amazing thing for the U.S. And you know, th this is an area that I understand better than probably anyone living on both sides of it, the political side, and then like for the real world life side, most people don't live on both sides.
They live on kind of, you know, one are, you know, one or the other.
But if you think about it, Dave, you know, tariffs are something that that all i I'm sick and tired of hearing the word free trade, right?
It's something that we've heard for the last 20 years.
What was happening is you would have China that wouldn't import any of our products.
They wouldn't go get a four truck, they wouldn't go get a General Motors car, they wouldn't take anything from the United States of America.
And by the way, if somebody did want one of those things, they would charge them 100 percent tariff, but yet they were dumping all their crap on us every single day.
You know, Korea was one of the worst examples of this.
You'd have washer, you know, uh washing machines, you'd have TVs, and the Korean government would literally subsidize their companies, you know, Samsung and so many others, you know, to sell products in the U.S. below the actual cost for Samsung and those other companies to produce those products.
So say it cost them $900 to produce a washing machine, they'd be selling it over here for $850.
The government would otherwise subsidize, it was called dumping.
They would get the lion's share of business because they could, you know, they they could do uh a washing machine for uh a hundred bucks under the price of whirlpool, so more people are going to buy that washing machine.
As soon as they put the American company out of business, guess what happened?
You know, they would jack their prices up and they would take the entire market share and congratulations.
Uh Americans just lost another 10,000, you know, uh, you know, uh factory workers and entire industries, and this had been happening for decades and decades and decades, right?
So for the first time, my father's putting reciprocal tariffs on it.
You want tariff us, we're gonna tear a few.
Congratulations.
You want to tariff the largest economy in the world?
And you see all these countries like Vietnam and all these countries, they're dropping the tariffs against the U.S. so our products can actually go overseas.
We lost every factory.
Dave, I gave thousands of speeches in factories across this country, right?
Based on the fact that they were out of business, the lights were turned off, the the parking lots had chain link fences around them, there were weeds growing up all over the place.
We lost our entire manufacturing base based on the fact that we were getting totally screwed.
And I hate to use that word on a podcast, but that's what was happening to us, right?
At the same time, you go back and look at Biden for a second.
Under Biden's term, you had years of of 10 percent inflation, right?
Over a three-year period of time, you had over 30 percent inflation, so everything was more expensive.
You know what wage growth was during that same period of time?
Probably six.
Six or seven percent, whereas price of everything went up.
So your wages are are are are barely climbing, and yet the cost of everything is going through the roof.
The exact opposite is happening under my father.
I mean, look at the inflation numbers that came out two days ago.
I mean, inflation is is is virtually nothing.
It's it's it's in the very, very, very, very, very low single digits, like you know, two percent, you know, kind of where you you want it to be.
And so congratulations.
And wage growth of all of a sudden is spiking again in in this nation, meaning wages is outgrowing inflation.
So, you know, e even if you did have to pay two extra dollars for a product, you're actually having the purchasing power to do it to do that for the first time because you don't have 10 percent compounded inflation year over year as you did under Joe Biden.
But beyond that, it it's allowing the manufacturing in this country to succeed.
You know, it's it's devastating to the Chinese economy, right, who who who desperately wants to be the world superpower, and I think what he's doing is one of the greatest things that's ever happened to this nation.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
He wants Powell to lower the the uh rate and it's done at a quarter point, but uh it feels like there was so much pressure on him to do that.
I don't think he was going to do it on his own.
Do you think that the Fed now is politicized?
Aaron Powell Of course it is.
There's no question about it.
I mean, look how they were dropping rates under under under Biden in times that didn't warrant rate drops.
Look at how they lied about the jobs number.
I mean, there was over 800,000 Jobs.
800 A good jobs report is 200,000 jobs, right?
You had 800,000 jobs last year under Biden that that were that were falsely reported.
They had to go back and adjust those numbers.
That's roughly one third of all jobs created, right?
You know, that they lied about.
Then the other part of the jobs equation was about 40 percent of all jobs, new jobs created under Biden were federal, state, and local government jobs, right?
And and you know how difficult that is?
Like you create a federal job, that the government's paying somebody.
There's no tax flow through there because you have to pay more in order right.
You want private industry jobs, not not federal jobs, right?
Because it's not uh they're not accretive to your overall budget.
And yet 40 percent of the jobs that Biden was creating were were were obviously governmental jobs that were being subsidized by by taxpayers, even further, you know, kind of you know, uh uh messing up that deficit.
And so between the 800,000 jobs that they lied about, roughly you know, a third of the jobs created that year, plus the 40 percent that were that were governmental jobs.
I mean, tell me that wasn't politicized.
You you think you think they just messed up by 800,000?
Of course they didn't.
They realized that had they reported the numbers correctly, you probably would have crashed the U.S. economy.
You know, and and and my father's flipped around that whole equation.
I mean, i i so um no, I'm um I'm incredibly proud of what he's doing.
There's no question they politicized it.
There's no question Powell needs to drop rates.
You know, if you think about it, you know, Apple and the largest American companies aren't beholden to rates because they've got unlimited sums of cash.
You're sitting on hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars, you know, of of of capital.
Guess who needs low rates, interest rates?
People who want to buy their first homes, people who need to refinance their homes, small businesses all across the country who are using lines of credit for their businesses every single day.
Yes, the faster Powell could drop rates, the better it is for this country.
And um and I think he saw it, and I obviously I think we're gonna get another rate cut, probably two more rate cuts before the end of the year.
That's kind of my prediction.
That's probably you know what what's what's anticipated on the street right now.
But rates have to come down.
And I think also Powell realized that if he didn't drop rates, my father was gonna fire him in May anyway, and so he may as well start the process sooner rather than later.
I think he's gonna fire him anyhow.
I think he's just gonna get rid of them in the end.
Dave, that's an awfully safe bet.
Yeah.
I'm I'm not gonna bet against you on that one.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
Yeah.
So uh Clay, I mean, you have a couple of businesses and you handle uh a lot of different people um starting businesses and ongoing businesses.
What's your take?
Well, I would just say this.
If you're watching today's show, um, you know, and you're somebody who says, what can I do uh to grow uh a business?
Um Eric and I, we've teamed up, you know, we're doing uh business uh conferences together.
Um if you go to Thrivetimeshow.com, Thrivetimeshow.com, you can attend one of those workshops, and the next one will be in Anaheim, uh California, uh December 4th and 5th.
And let's say that Powell lowers rates or Powell doesn't lower rates.
I think now is the best time to start and grow a successful business.
And you say, why is now the best time?
Because every day that we have is a gift from God, and what we do with it is a gift to God.
And I don't know how many days we're gonna have on this planet, but we need to all operate in Trump time, as Dr. Navarro calls it.
We all need to seize the day, carpe d carpe dum.
We all need to take action.
Um, because you know, when Erica, he just spoke at our business workshop, our Thrivetimeshow.com business workshop here in Tulsa, and Eric was talking about how he organizes his day, his approach to branding, his approach to marketing, his approach to sales to leadership, and we all can get better.
So let's just say that we can't lower rates or we can lower rates.
Now has never been a better time to start and grow a successful company.
And again, a lot of people don't recognize or don't remember this, but when President Trump wrote about the art of the deal, a lot of the case studies and or examples on the art of the deal uh involves President Trump buying a dilapidated hotel and renovating it, revitalizing it, rejuvenating it, breathing life into it and making it worth something.
It was finding uh land that had potential value, but that potential hadn't been seized.
President Trump redefined the entire skyline of New York during an economy that was not great.
And uh Eric, I think maybe I'm correct, but you've been running the Trump organization for uh about ten years or so, and you've reinovated that I know of.
I mean, you've completely turned around Turnberry, made it a very successful, beautiful golf course out there in Scotland.
You've turned that around.
Uh You've turned around Trump Durral.
I mean, I could go on and on listing the properties, but Eric, you see a property as it could be, you buy it as it is, and you turn it around.
And I think that's what it's all about.
Eric, your your family, and I think I think people were shocked about this when President Trump mentioned cryptocurrency Bitcoin.
You started to move into cryptocurrency, Bitcoin.
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All of a sudden, now everyone is on board with crypto.
What what changed?
When I got a letter from Capital One effectively telling me they're canceling 300 accounts for no reason whatsoever, only because my father wore a hat that said make America great again on it.
That was that was red.
Um that's what changed.
Uh I realized how fragile our financial institution was, how broken our financial institution was.
It no longer worked for people.
And the same people that you know were coming after us were also going after the people in the crypto space.
And these are the people who just wanted to modernize finance.
I mean, Dave, let me ask just a couple of basic questions.
Like, you know, why why if if I don't get a wire in by five o'clock on a Friday afternoon, why can't I get it until the following Monday?
I mean, it it's preposterous in the financial world.
First of all, the bank is taking interest on that money all over those days and not paying you.
So they're making money off of your money, right?
You know, and second of all, it's just archaic, right?
Whereas with crypto, you know, on Saturday night while having a glass of wine with your wife or your husband or whoever the hell it is, you know, you could you can send money instantaneously for a small fraction of the fee that goes to traditional, you know, uh, you know, again, you know, so you know, vis-a-vis Bitcoin, vis-a-vis stablecoin, vis-a-vis Ethereum.
You know, uh why is it that you know you want to go out and you want to get financing on a home, and the bank that you've done business with for 25 years spends, you know, 90 to 120 days going through a know your customer.
It doesn't make any sense.
There's nothing that the crypto world can't do better, faster, cheaper, and more transparently, you know, in a lot of other things than the modern financial system.
So when I started getting debanked, I I fell into cryptocurrency.
There is no question it's it's the future of modern day finance, so much so that I mean I started two companies.
American Bitcoin, which is now listed on the NASDAQ, um, you know, trades, it trades on the Nasdaq.
I think it's going to be the greatest Bitcoin company uh you know in in in the nation, one of the greatest Bitcoin companies in the world.
I I could not be more proud of it.
Um, we're mining Bitcoin right now for roughly fifty cents on the dollar uh to what you know, Bitcoin right now is about 115,000 dollars, and we're we're mining it for for roughly 50 percent on the dollar of of that.
It's it's a unbelievable company.
And then we have World Liberty Financial, which is you know the the fastest growing stable coin on Earth right now, USD one, and and so uh I am embracing crypto with my entire heart.
You know, 50 percent of my day is now spent on crypto.
I I can't tell you I I truly believe that we are we are on the one yard line of uh of cryptocurrency as is it starts getting embraced by everyone, the big banks, the biggest Fortune 500 companies, the biggest families around the world, everybody wants cryptocurrency, everybody wants Bitcoin, everybody is buying Bitcoin, the biggest companies are treasuring Bitcoin, it's on the balance sheet of the largest families in the world, and um and people are just starting to open their eyes right now.
Um cryptocurrency is growing faster than the internet grew in the nineties.
Uh and I can tell you when when we when we look back and in three years, five years, uh ten years, uh the way our financial system runs is going to be a hundred percent different than it is uh today.
So I believe in it, I love it.
Um people are starting to see it.
I've been telling people to buy it for the last several years.
Um the people who have have gotten who made a lot of money um you know based on it, and uh and I I just I believe it with with every ounce of my soul.
Do you do you think crypto Bitcoin, do you think this eventually in the future, sometime in the future, it would replace the currency that we have today?
No, I I think it does two things.
I I think um crypto uh you know think think of think of Bitcoin as really digital gold.
You know, how do you move gold?
How do you sell gold?
You know, what do you do?
You you take a nugget and you melt it down.
Okay, what happens if you want to take 100,000 of gold?
Well, you'll probably get arrested at the airport for smuggling, right?
You know, and by the way, what do you do?
Bring it into a pawn shop and sell it for you know, you know, uh, you know, 70 cents on the dollar.
You know, I I mean it was it's always been an amazing store of value for the longest time, but it's not the best store of value.
You know, Bitcoin is.
You know, Bitcoin can be sold 24 hours a day, seven days a week as a product that everybody wants.
It's a product that has finite demand, so there's only 21 million Bitcoin.
You know, Dave, if if if big if gold ever got to ten thousand dollars an ounce, I'd break down your studio, I'd break down the concrete walls that surround wherever you are right now, and I'd probably find gold in there.
You know, you you're always gonna, as as price goes up, you're always going to you know increase the supply uh of an item.
It might cost more to mine, but you can otherwise go out and you can find more, right?
I mean, if Bitcoin ever went to 40,000 an ounce, Elon would probably find it on on Mars and bring it back to the Bitcoin, there is 21 million of them.
It is finite.
There will never be 21 million and one.
And so Bitcoin is really a digital gold, right?
And then you really have stable coins.
So USD one or stablecoin is backed one-to-one on the U.S. dollar.
What happens is no one trusts governments around the world.
No one cr I mean, they had a stablecoin in Europe where only half of one percent of Europeans would buy uh a Euro denominated stable coin.
Guess what everybody wants, whether you're in Asia, whether you're in South America, whether you're in Africa, whether you're in Europe, they all want the U.S. dollar.
And so, you know, if you live in Kenya, you can use a little thing called a phone.
You can have your, you know, and you can you can take your salary, you know, which is otherwise being inflated at 10,000 percent a year because of you know, uh uh not having good currencies, not having stable governments, fraud abuse, and you can instantly buy the U.S. dollar.
Again, a stable coin, which is digital dollar that's backed exactly one-to-one with with with with treasuries, with short-term treasuries.
And so for the first time, you're gonna attract literally hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars a year into the US dollar, into the dollar ecosystem.
There is nothing that's gonna be better for the U.S. dollar than than cryptocurrency, uh You know, especially stable coins, uh, which are all predicated on the dollar because no one trusts any of the Asian currencies, no one trusts the euro, no one trusts any of the the South American currencies.
Everybody in the world wants the U.S. dollar.
And so by having stable coins, by having cryptocurrency, it gives them stability, it gives them financial freedom, um, you know, it gives them the rule of law of the United States of America, it doesn't subject them to, you know, um, you know, fraudulent governments, fraudulent banks.
Um, you know, you can transact it immediately, 24 hours a day.
Um, you know, it's not like gold where it weighs a ton where you have to melt it down, where you can't find secondary markets.
Um you know, cryptocurrency is is is the way of the future, and I actually think it does a tremendous amount to enhance the U.S. dollar, not not deplete in any way.
I mean, with the blockchain, I mean, it it seems to me that we really don't need the banking system the way it is today.
Because with the with the blockchain and and doing we're kind of bypassing the entire SWIFT system.
We're bypassing the entire banking computer system.
I mean, I mean, their data centers are just gigantic in the amount of energy.
Yeah.
Made me smile by saying that, because that's exactly right.
I did this when I got debanked by everyone, and I'm talking about everyone.
I'm talking about Bank of America, I'm talking about JP Morgan Chase, I'm talking about Capital One.
I'm talking about everyone, the biggest banks, because they didn't like who we were, because we had a certain political idea.
Now all of them are coming back, Dave, and by the way, kissing my ass, right?
It's really ironic how how that works.
They all want to have, you know, the Trump organization's accounts and my personal accounts and everything else.
But I I started there is nothing that that's done in that can't be done faster, more transparently, right?
You know, without the interface.
Let me ask you a question.
Why is somebody at one of the banks making the decision as to whether or not Dave can get a loan on his house or not?
Like why you know why why does JP Morgan have 70-story towers in every major city in the country filled with tens of thousands of people when all of those jobs are redundant and can be done on blockchain quicker, faster, more transparently, more efficiently, right?
You know, somebody goes and fills out a loan application, they have zero, zero leverage, zero purchasing power, and they have to eat every fee, every expense, right?
You know, ridiculous interest rates.
The banks control the purse.
And and and by the way, Dave, guys like me were always the guys who who had the advantage because we obviously move a lot of capital, and so I can call up the the heads of these bank and say, listen, you know, you're gonna reduce my interest rate by one percent, you're gonna do this, you're gonna help me out, you're gonna waive these fees.
The average retail consumer can't.
Crypto gives people financial freedom, right?
That and so when you say what's the purpose of the banks, I say amen, right?
People can get better service 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Why are you reliant on on the teller at a at a you know a Bank of America, you know, who works from nine to five with a two-hour lunch break somewhere in the middle of the day, if you need to go in there and you want to send a wire, right?
And by the way, God forbid you're trying to send a wire to the other side of of Earth for something.
You want to buy a product in in Europe or South America, you know, what do you what do you do?
You you go to your local branch, and then you you find a branch down there and they take currency conversion fees, right?
FX fees, and then everybody has their fingers in the candy jar and it gets there three days later, but you don't know if the bank's legit or not, and you don't know if the person is going to actually go in to receive their money when when you can pick up your phone and you can send a wallet address and you can instantly send money at virtually no fees,
you know, in a matter of of of milliseconds across the earth without having anybody else touch it, have anybody else's fingers in it at 12 o'clock or one o'clock in the morning on a on a Sunday morning.
You know, why do these banks even exist?
Why does a bank take 90 or 120 days to give you a mortgage utilizing money that you have in your bank accounts as collateral?
You know, why why is it that you know a bank in the United States is only expected to keep 10 percent.
If you put a million dollars into a bank in the U.S., it only has to keep 100,000, right?
It only has to keep 10 percent of so they go out there and they gamble with your money?
That doesn't feel right to me.
I mean, which is safer, that or a cryptocurrency that's that's backed one-to-one against the U.S. dollar or something like Bitcoin.
You know, Bitcoin is the greatest modern asset of our time, which has been growing at 70 percent year over year for the last 10 years.
I mean, you know, and and I truly believe my heart or heart, that's why I created American Bitcoin, we'll continue to do so.
You know, I I mean I I I I have said it many times, but I truly believe that Bitcoin is going to be over over a million dollars in a matter of, you know, in a matter of years.
And so um I think the modern financial system is broken.
I think it's punitive.
I think it's been um a disgrace to virtually everybody who's listening to the show who all got debanked, who all got deplatformed because they made a spring that went in a fishing reel that was sold at Bass Pro shops that sold duck hunting ammo, you know, and and therefore they were you know, they're they were tossed aside like they were dogs.
Uh no, my greatest hope in the world is that crypto takes over the entire financial industry and puts half of those banks that were so discriminatory out of business.
I agree with that 100%.
Clay, thoughts?
Well, I I the thoughts I have is, you know, when I was stage side with uh Eric, um, you know, every once in a while I'd look to my left and I would say, Wow, there's General Flynn.
Look to my right, there's Eric, look over here, see Cash Patel.
I'm thinking, uh, how did we get here?
Uh what is sort of what are some things we have in common?
Well, virtually everybody who was stage side had been debanked.
And so General Flynn was debaned.
Eric Trump was debaned.
I have been debanked.
We have had it's almost impossible to if I wanted to reimburse a speaker for travel.
It's almost impossible to send certain people money because they had been debanked.
And so the problem of debanking is is unbelievably uh real.
And if you're watching today's show and you haven't been debanked before, um, that is a weird feeling.
It's a weird feeling when you've banked at an institution for years and years and years and they say, hey, your credit score is great, you've been here for years, but your money is no longer welcome here.
What what do you do?
I mean, where do you go from there?
So I think Eric has a very valid point.
And just a couple other notes I want to make here for you.
For anybody out there, Dave who's watching today's show.
If anybody goes to Amazon.com right now and you buy a copy of Under Siege, so you want to go to Amazon.com, buy a copy of Under Siege.
If you buy a copy of it, what we're doing from now until October 14th.
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He said, absolutely not.
So I'm giving up my cell phone number.
If you text proof of purchase to my cell phone number on my clipboard of fun here, 918-851-0102.
So if you just text uh proof of purchase to my cell phone number, 918-851-0102, you are entered into a drawing for a chance to win a a a dinner at Mar-a-Lago with Eric Trump and I. So Eric Trump and I will be uh meeting you at Mar-a-Lago.
We'll have dinner with you.
Also, you win, and again, I'm gonna cover the airfare and the hotel.
Also, you're gonna win a backstage pass to the upcoming Thrive Time Show Business Conference, December 4th and 5th in Anaheim, California.
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And because it's a drawing, if you're saying, I don't have the money to buy a book, but I still want to enter into the drawing, you can.
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So if you want to be entered into the drawing and you're in a tight spot financially, you can just text that number right there to be entered in as well.
But we'd really appreciate a purchase of the book.
Uh and then you have a chance to win a dinner with Eric Trump and myself at Mar-a-Lago.
You have a chance to win a life-changing uh once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to go backstage to one of the upcoming business conferences, December 4th and 5th in Anaheim.
And then finally, uh, Eric, one thing that Eric is doing, and I thought it was awesome when I heard that you were doing this, Eric, is uh Eric is donating a portion of the proceeds to support the Turning Point Foundation.
So every time you buy a copy of Under Siege, uh, Eric, you're also teaming up with Charlie Kirk's group.
And Eric, maybe you could just share a little bit about that, because I think when we buy the book, you have a wonderful opportunity to find a book that is life-changing, mind-blowing.
It's a great book.
You're supporting Charlie Kirk, and you have a chance to go to Mar-a-Lago, which by the way is probably the most exclusive pro property on the planet.
So, Eric, a lot of information to break down, but I'd love to get your reaction to that uh cornucopia of uh whatnot.
So let me go to Mar-a Lago, first of all, I'm gonna make sure everybody has the greatest night ever.
Uh we we will have the greatest time.
You'll see the greatest club in the country.
Dave's seen it before.
Um you will you will love it.
I will make sure we have the greatest night of your of your lives.
So we'll have a great time.
Listen, in terms of turning point, it's the exact point of under siege, right?
I mean, they want to put us under siege.
They they didn't want me on that stage.
Dave, they don't want you on that stage.
Clay, they don't want you on that stage.
They certainly didn't want Charlie Kirk on that stage.
I mean, I had done thousands of events like that where I was standing on top of a a tractor with a bullhorn.
I had done I can't countless events with with Charlie.
They want us to be Joe Biden.
They want us to be locked in a fricking basement, you know, unheart.
And and and guys, Dave, that wouldn't have worked.
If we went back to 2016, you know, if we weren't out there running our mouths, and we weren't out there in every single swing state doing five, six, seven, ten events a day, we weren't going to beat Hillary Clinton.
I mean, we're at a five to one disadvantage fundraising wise.
And the only way we were able to win is because we were on that stage.
And so when you have these lunatic kids, you know, effectively voting from rooftops, calling us fascists while they shoot sniper rifles at us.
Their intended purpose is to keep us in.
And we can never allow that to happen.
We will not be silenced.
We will not be quiet.
We will continue to take that stage.
We understand that it might come at great peril as we just saw from my father and from from Charlie, but we will not back down on under any circumstances.
So, you know, as I you know, this book came out three days.
Undersage came out three days before Charlie Kirk's assassination.
And I I know I want to give the proceeds.
I was going to give it to St. Jude, which is a big part of my life.
St. Jude's Children's Hospital.
I've raised over fifty million dollars for them.
And honestly, it was Charlie's death was so on point to the whole mantra of what they've tried to do to us as a family as a movement that I want to make sure that the movement never dies.
I want to make sure that those voices are never ever silenced again.
And so I'm gonna I'm gonna write a really nice check at the end of this thing with proceeds for the book.
Uh in honor of Charlie, in honor of Erica, and and and just in honor of uh of turning point, which embodies absolutely everything that I've spent the last decade and more of my life fighting for, uh, which is to make America great again.
Eric, if people wanted to buy your book and they didn't want to buy it from Amazon, is there another place they can go to purchase it?
Uh Eric Trump.com.
Go to Eric Trump.com, but go to uh if you are on Amazon, go go buy it, go buy a couple copies.
We we have to win New York Times number one.
I think we will.
Um but uh you know, and I I want to beat I want to be Kamala, who, as I said before, uh from everything that's being told to me is just, you know, uh using using big donors to go buy, you know, copious amounts of her book.
Um it's hard to believe anybody would buy her book.
I mean, she was she was in a race for 107 days, you know, she she didn't do anything.
She was, you know, the least charismatic, candidate in in in I think modern political history.
So um I can't imagine her books are flying off the shelves.
But uh, you know, what when you have uh when you have big donors going in there and apparently, from what I'm being told, buying you know, tens of thousands of copy, uh the MAGA army has to come out and uh you know and I'd appreciate it.
And I can't wait to bring one of you guys to Mar a Lago or a couple of you guys to Mar a Lago.
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Great.
I'll put all that.
I want to interject one thing.
I'm so sorry, I had to interject this, Eric.
I I never disagree with you on podcasts, but one thing is Kamala Harris, I mean, she's gotta be an incredible author.
I mean, she's a great orator.
She's gotta be just a hell of an author.
I mean, I I just imagine that her book will unburden everybody from what it's been.
I think Eric people are buying it because she's such an incredible author.
author.
I think that's what it is.
Well, great, great, great lesson, Slay.
I mean, you know, if you want to learn about business, speak to Kamala.
I mean, price gauging, remember?
Remember price gauging.
Uh, she couldn't even say the word gouging.
She she used the word price gauging.
So if if you want a great business read, definitely buy Kamala's book.
Um, don't worry, Dave.
Don't worry about the Trump book if you want if you want great business insight.
Buy Kamala's book, uh, a person who who literally can't say the word gouging and does not know the concept of price gouging.
And the last time I saw her, uh it looked like she was drunk or something at her at her book signing whatever she was at.
Very likely.
Yeah.
Most likely.
Highly likely.
Unbelievable.
By the way, after that disastrous run, I'd be drunk too.
Yeah.
I agree.
I I want to thank both of you for coming on the X22 report.
Spotlight, I'm going to put all the links at the bottom of the video to make it easier for people to go over and purchase the book.
Once again, thank you very much for being on the spotlight.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Great to be back, Dave.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Dave.
Let's talk about protecting our wealth.
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