Devin Nunes – Devin Nunes Reveals The Document The [DS] Was Looking For Was Hidden,Truth Is Coming
Devin Nunes is the CEO of the Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG). Devin begins the conversation talking about Truth Social on Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG), is pivoting aggressively toward a multifaceted digital ecosystem that integrates cryptocurrency, artificial intelligence, and financial services to transcend its origins as a social media platform. In 2025, key deals have underscored this trajectory: the February launch of Truth.Fi with a $250 million fund dedicated to mergers, acquisitions, and crypto-focused ventures signals a push into decentralized finance. By July, TMTG amassed $2.5 billion for investments in Bitcoin and crypto ETFs, aiming to capitalize on volatile markets amid platform revenue struggles. An August partnership with Perplexity AI enhances search and data capabilities, positioning Truth Social to rival tech giants in AI-driven content delivery. The most ambitious move came on August 26 with a $6.4 billion digital asset treasury collaboration involving Crypto.com and Yorkville Acquisition Corp., incorporating Cronos (CRO) tokens for user rewards, payments, and a new ETF, which fosters blockchain integration and monetization.
The conversation then switches to the Russia Hoax, The declassified documents released by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard in July and August 2025 have reignited debates over the so-called Russia collusion hoax, revealing what proponents describe as irrefutable evidence that the Obama administration orchestrated a fabricated narrative to undermine Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and subsequent presidency. These materials, including a long-suppressed House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) report and whistleblower accounts, allege that key figures like former CIA Director John Brennan directed the publication of implausible intelligence assessments claiming Russian preference for Trump, despite internal knowledge that such claims were based on four pieces of bogus or "ridiculous" evidence, and that Russia had not interfered with U.S. voting infrastructure as initially briefed in a December 2016 Presidential Daily Brief. The [DS] was searching for the Devin Nunes documents at Mar-A-Lago, but the Partiots locked them in a safe where the [DS] could not touch them.
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Music Hi, and welcome to the x twenty two Report Spotlight.
Today we have a returning guest, Devin is the CEO of the Trump Media and Technology Group, which is True Social.
He's the chair of the President Intelligence Advisory Board, and I am very happy and honored to have Devin back on the X twenty two Report Spotlight.
Devin, welcome back to the spotlight.
Well, X, it's been a while, but it's always a pleasure to come on your show.
It's always we always have a good time, and I'm sure this is going to be very similar.
Yeah, I mean, I think the last time you were on was during Christmas time of 2024, so welcome back.
Has it been that long?
Yeah, yeah, it's been since December.
It's not that I haven't seen you, you know, in between that time, but that was the last time you were on.
Well, it was good.
I was just going to say it was great to have you X and misses X out to California to tour my little boutique wine business that I hope you I hope you enjoyed.
And I'm impressed now that you and misses X have your own show.
And I I swear that we talked about that on the trip.
But I don't know.
I'm not going to take, I'm not going to say that was my idea.
But maybe you were already working on it.
I don't remember.
But yeah, I think we did discuss it.
And actually, we had a great time with you tasting your wine.
Your new wine that you're developing is, I think, is going to be very successful.
And I'm very happy that you listened to me finally about oak, and now you're fully on board with that because I think it just makes the wine a little bit better.
Well, you got to see, you got to see how I use the oak, and everything is on oak.
I just am, you know, more of an old school, old world style wine.
I just don't want to get that oak flavor too much in the wine.
But I think we did make, we did make that Reserve Cab.
Yes.
Uh, which is mostly new oak.
The Reserve, the Patriot Reserve Cab, which I think we tried that while you were out.
Yeah, we did.
And I mean, I think you just use enough oak just to, just to give it that taste.
It's not too oaky, like where it's like holy crap, there's just a lot of oak in there.
I think you just use just enough.
Just enough just to give it that good flavor that, that just works well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, look, I'm glad I'm glad you enjoyed it and you got to see my young vines and it was great to have you and misses X out to California.
I hope you guys will I hope you guys will come back sometime.
Oh, absolutely.
It was a great time.
And we'll come back and I know we're gonna talk a little bit about wine at the end, but but I just want to thank all the X 22 listeners that and viewers that have joined my wine club really appreciate it and the new shipment will go out in November, right in time for Than Thanksgiving and the holidays.
Yeah, that's that'll be perfect timing actually.
Let's just, I mean, everyone knows you're the CEO of True Social.
Let's just start off because True Social, you guys have been doing quite a bit.
A lot of news has been coming out about all the different deals that you're making, one with Perplexity, AI, then crypto dot com.
I think people are wondering, like, where is True Social heading?
Because they see all this news, they see everything coming out.
What's the direction you're heading in?
Yeah.
So let's take that in pieces.
So the company was started out of necessity.
And I always say this because it's important that.
that President Trump didn't need a company.
I didn't need another job.
I was in Congress doing perfectly fine.
But what happened, and you were the poster child for this, so many of us were canceled from virtually every single platform.
So the company was started to give people their voices back to create a, at least initially, just to create an alternative to Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, et cetera.
That's, you know, so when the president called and asked me to run this company, you know, I had been silenced for many years, you know, shadow just shadow banned and sometimes outright banned.
The president had been banned from every single platform.
And then remember, I think XU and I were one of the first on Parlor, which I still say there's a lot of bad stuff that's happened in this country, but I think and we'll get to all the dirty cop corruption kind of later on here.
But if you, if in terms of of the one thing that I think is the worst that's happened in terms of economic sabotage was when Parlor that you and I were on, it was a Twitter knockoff that we got on to that in 2020.
And we were doing well on that platform, it was doing amazing.
And right after the election, you know, everybody, many people like you were banned from Twitter and YouTube, et cetera.
But then the unthinkable happened and that was when the president was kicked off in early January from every platform.
Everybody just, you know, like guys like you and I, shrugged and said, well, great.
Now President's going to be over on Parler.
And some thirty companies went around and cut off service to Parler because Parler was built using all typically if you would go out and build a a a platform, a media platform, you would go build it on top of AWS, which is Amazon or Microsoft Azure, et cetera.
But yeah, some thirty companies basically refused to do business with Parler, which at that time probably was a company that knew how to value, you know., 500 million to a billion.
I don't know what it would have been.
But they were nuked.
X, they were nuked.
They were gone.
And you and I were gone.
App didn't work.
And we had suddenly had nothing.
So, you know, I went around to, you know, around the country that year.
I was in Congress and, you know, just spreading the word of how this, how can this happen?
Our voices are silenced.
And I always call it a funnel because you got all the fake news goes into the funnel.
And then, you know, it basically goes right into your, right into your brain.
That's like that's the problem with kind of TikTok and some of these, some of these apps, especially when they're woke.
So that's just getting canalized into people's brains.
So imagine when, you know, it was one thing to compete with the fake news, but at least if you had some part of that funnel at the end of the funnel, you could put something on Twitter, et cetera, et cetera.
Some people might get a little drop of the truth of something of things that are normal, but they just then you had a funnel that was just feeding poison directly to the American people.
And that's just, you know, now we, we broke that free when we started this company.
So when we stood up, you know, true social origin.
True Social originally in 2022, it really changed the dynamic for the president and his campaign because suddenly, because remember at that time Fox wouldn't have him on.
He had very few places he could even do an interview.
He would have to go out to do rallies.
And when True Social was stood up, all of a sudden he was talking to everyone again.
Right.
And myself and you and everyone else, along with Rumble.
I don't want to exclude Rumble from this conversation because they've been an important player and a close partner of ours when we stood this company up.
Then we fought with the Biden SEC and Ginsler., uh, for what was the longest SPAC, that was a vehicle that we used to go public, um, cost us an unprecedented amount of money to do that.
Some, you know, I don't even want to calculate, but it's probably around $100 million all in that we've had to spend that we had to spend fighting the SEC and now we're still fighting, um, you know, in Delaware and other places, uh, very frustrating that we have to do all this, uh, to basically just keep the company, you know, to just that was just to get the company started.
And so we built, we opened up True Social, gave everyone their voices back.
And then we were essentially just a company that wasn't public.
We didn't have, you know, a lot of capital to go and compete with the, uh, you know, with the Facebook's and Meta's, et cetera.
Uh, but finally, a year and a half ago, uh, we went, we went public.
And during that time frame, so we went public, uh, raised a lot of capital.
Um, so, you know, we we have about seven hundred million dollars, uh, in, uh, cash, um, that we have to essentially, you know, kind of build out, uh, the different platforms that we're building out.
So that brings us to.
the streaming platform, so we wanted to make sure that we solved the Twitter Instagram problem.
We solved the YouTube problem by working with Rumble, because Rumble is an alternative to YouTube, but we didn't have a we didn't have a solution for the YouTube TV, the big cable companies, Netflix, so we needed to develop that technology and that's what Truth Plus is all about.
So now on True Social, if you go to the right hand corner, you click Truth Plus and I will say that this with all seriousness, that it is the best platform technolog of all these companies and put it into our own system.
So it's our own, and I won't get too technical, but it's our own CDN.
So what does that mean?
It basically means that it's a content delivery network.
It's a closed loop system.
So remember when I talked about the parlor, right.
And parlor, how they were built on all these companies and then it collapsed around them.
In this case, Truth Plus operates on all of our own tech stack and servers.
So good luck in shutting us down.
And you can imagine, you know, we didn't know how the election was going to go last year.
So, you know, we, we, it took us a couple of years to build.
We finally really started testing it last year.
Thankfully, we, we had it up and running, uh, because I, you know, we were lost the election, God knows what would have happened.
We it would have been, you know, the only last place for freedom, the fortress would have been Truth Social Rumble and then our Truth Plus app that could get out content because the One America News of the World, the Newsmaxes, the one, um, Real America's Voice, Salem, many of these, you know, were not allowed on all of these different platforms.
It's only now since the president won, some of them are getting back on.
But we've created this closed loop system so that we never, so the company was stood up to protect freedom of speech.
And at least for today's mechanisms, we have social media and streaming within Trump Media and Technology Group.
And then our close partner, Rumble, that has the YouTube alternative and cloud services.
So, and I know many people are probably watching this on Rumble.
So as we started to look at, you know, we were canceled.
And so this gets to, you know, the next day.
So, you know, your question, uh, we were canceled, uh, by many banks, financial institutions refused to do business with us.
I'm sure that doesn't surprise you.
President Trump has actually talked about what happened to him personally and his and his family members.
Uh, and that led us into really researching right after we went public.
So, you know, starting, uh, you know, May, June of last year, we got serious about because we were still, by the way, we were still being canceled at that time.
They were still financially, even though we had gone public, went through that whole battle because the election was going on, they were doing everything to not only screw over the president, but to screw over this company.
So I just said, you know what?
What are the alternatives out there?
How do we how do we get ourselves away from the fiat currency and banking system?
And that's when we started looking at how do we incorporate crypto technology that's going to stay around forever and get that incorporated into our company.
And so essentially what we did and I'll and I'll kind of stop there, but I think I don't know if you have, I think you do you have a good feel for how we that was kind of the first, you know.
You know, two and a half year battle of our company.
Right.
And then I'm taking you now to the public company realm and then why we made this decision to go into crypto.
Yeah, I think I cover everything.
Yeah, I think that's perfect.
And I think, you know, even though people see True Social operating and Rumble operating, I still think there are still forces that are still trying to shut you down, still trying to stop President Trump's voice, because that's really what it is.
He's on True Social.
It's his voice.
That's where you get a lot of his information.
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The information on true social.
And I think if they could, they probably shut you down right now and I think it's a very good idea moving into other systems where you can make sure you avoid like debanking and all that.
And I think that's a very good direction, especially with the Trump administration.
Of course, as you know, they're moving into, you know, the crypto realm and they're starting to bring that on.
I think this is a perfect opportunity for true social to go in the same direction.
Yeah.
And so that's what so so exactly.
And so what we started to research was, okay, do we need to do a do we need to have a wallet, right?
Do we need to build out a wallet and that infrastructure?
We, you know, do we need to have an exchange, a crypto exchange?
And we we started we talked to, you know, nearly every player out there.
And then we decided initially on to do two things.
First, let's let's get let's.
start some ETFs so that people have financial alternatives.
And those are still, we're applying for those.
We're building those out that would be both a combination of crypto assets and also normal securities of non woke companies.
So we're building out that platform.
We call that, we call that truthfy.
Right.
In that process while we were trying to find, you know, what token, what utility token do we use on True Social and Truth Plus, our streaming app?
What wallet do we use?
Do we build our own?
How are people going to exchange this?
And we started, we launched these ETFs with crypto dot com, which is one of the largest players in the world.
And we started really looking at the technology and we started to look at how CRO Kronos is used.
That's the utility token that's been championed by crypto dot com.
It's been in use now for, you know, half a decade.
And their reward point system that they use and how that money flows across their platform.
I was really impressed with it because it's it's faster than Ethereum.
But at the same time it's its own.
And this is kind of technical, but it's its own layer one token.
So there's very few of those and it had been in existence and actually functioning and working.
And at the time, you know, before we announced this deal, it was in the top, it was around 25 or 30th in terms of of all the crypto technology that was out there, all the crypto tokens that were out there, that's where it ranked in terms of market cap.
So what we did is we structured, well, we went out first and acquired, we put it, we raised about 2.3 billion dollars to put Bitcoin on our balance sheet.
Yeah.
So huge money.
So now we have our own Bitcoin Treasury that, you know, obviously, you know, we believe in the long run that it's an alternative to its digital gold, all the stuff that you're familiar with that you talk about.
It's a hedge against inflation, but more importantly, it's to put a war chest there to say, we don't need any bank, right?
If we, you know, we don't need you.
We got, we got a bunch of Bitcoin.
You know, I can't tell you if Bitcoin is going to go up, down, or wherever it's going to go, but hopefully, you know, over time, it will add value to the company.
And now our, our company, that kind of caused the companies to start to start to start to trade almost with Bitcoin because it's, you know, so large in terms of our, you know, because we have like three billion dollars of both Bitcoin and cash.
So then we then going back to we talked about, okay, what, you know, what do we need to do on the utility token side and and to get to to be able to use it on our platform.
And so we really liked what the CRO history there, its longevity and feel like, you know, felt like it's a, you know, a very not only it's stable and hasn't had any issues but also.
But also, you know, importantly, crypto dot com is not only a global brand, but it is also a, it's, it's has license.
It's, it prides itself in getting license all over the globe.
So they now have licenses, you know, nearly everywhere.
But also they can continue to get more license to operate.
They've added a, a Robinhood alternative, which is, which is critical.
So you can now buy stocks and securities on crypto dot com dot They have their own exchange to exchange cryptocurrencies and they have one of the best wallets that's out there.
And so all those things together said, okay, well, you know, what's the best way for us to work together if we adopt this utility token on truth on truth social, we want to make sure that we have an American company that is looking over this token, making sure that, you know, making sure that, that, you know, there's plenty in supply, making sure that it's being governed properly.
And so.
So we, so we first formed the partnership agreed to, to, to, to, to one use the CRO token on Truth Plus and True Social.
Some of you guys who are testing, if you're on True Social, uh, you will see that we introduced GIMS.
Now, not everyone has that yet.
We're waiting for approval, uh, from our overlords at, at Apple and, uh, and Google.
And, and I say that because, you know, that's really the only monopolies that are out there, is that, that, you know, we really are.
And I know some people, sometimes people like, well, why hasn't this updated?
Why hasn't that updated?
Well, you know, to be in the Apple App Store, you have to follow.
the rules that they set, same with the Google Play Store.
So we're waiting on that for approval, but we've we started a reward system called we call them gyms, the truth gyms.
And that's based on how much you interact on the platform.
Eventually, the more that you watch on streaming, you'll also earn these gyms that are essentially reward points.
Think of credit card reward points that ultimately we're going to plug into crypto dot com.
So that agreement was made and then we made an additional agreement with them that in order whenever you want to move your gyms into a wallet, all you have to do is go open an account with crypto dot com and then we'll and this will grow over time, but we'll have different opportunities to turn those gyms into Kronos or other potentially other avenues that that that that that we'll probably have some fun with as the technology develops.
And there are a few companies out there that do this, but nothing at this scale and like this where you're going to have a streaming platform, a social media platform working in conjunction with the whole crypto dot com ecosystem.
So that and then in addition to that, that, you know, just.
But that just to kind of finish up that first agreement that we made with them, our commercial arrangement, they agreed to take stock in our company.
So they are now an investor in our company and they've given us in exchange for that CRO, Kronos.
So now, in addition to Bitcoin in our treasury, we have CRO in our treasury.
So that was about 100 million dollars when that transaction was made.
Markets fluctuate, but it's done pretty well since we made the announcement, which is nice to see.
And then, you know, over time, we'll figure out, you know, we'll probably stake that at some point where you can earn money for our company.
And that's what I like about the utility tokens.
And I think why they have some interest from people is because you can actually, if you agree to lock them up, it's almost like earning interest in a bank account.
So, and you get you get rewarded more, more tokens.
That's Ethereum, et cetera, that, that, that do this type of thing.
So in all that, as we made, as we made that commercial agreement, we want, and maybe I'll just stop there.
Does that, does that kind of answer your question about the commercial agreement?
Well, let me ask you.
So the, the Kronos tokens, the reward program, basically you're.
rewarding people for posting, browsing and doing other functions on the site.
That's right.
And that's right.
And then you're going to have a wallet that's integrated into crypto dot com.
Does the rewards go automatically into the wallet or do you have to do that manually?
Yeah, so you'll have to go get a crypto dot com wallet, go through that process because we have to make sure everyone wants to ask why.
Well, we have to make sure you're actually a human and not a crypto has a lot of security that you have to go through.
That's right.
So you have to, so we don't want to just be giving rewards to some dude in his underwear sitting in a basement in Hong Kong somewhere, you know?
So, yeah, so you're gonna, so you'll earn gems and then you'll be able to exchange those for rewards just like a credit card system works.
And we'll build that out over time, but, you know, some of it will probably be Kronos, we may have other opportunities, we're still, you know, that'll develop over time.
And if there's like subscriptions or anything like that on the platform, you can use this to pay for that.
Correct.
So, yeah, thank you for that.
That was really important.
Important point that I forgot to say.
So with our streaming package.
We offer some free, but we also have what we call the Patriot package, which is ten bucks a month.
And in the streaming, what we wanted to do is not only give a home for the Newsmaxes and the Real America's Voice and those guys, but we also wanted to give a home for family friendly content.
So we made deals with Great American Family, which was and was started by the founders of Hallmark when Hallmark went woke.
Oh wow.
So we're loading that up on the platform now.
Curiosity Stream, which was started by the guy who started Discovery, of course that was sold and went woke.
So he started up Curiosity Stream.
And then a lot of, you know, religious documentaries, other documentaries, really a place that you can go for family friendly content and content that you wouldn't find any other place.
And maybe you find it, but it's spread out, right?
I always say it's like, it might be like if you have DirecTV or one of the, the old systems, it might be channel 4972, you know, way at the very end and, you know, nobody ever sees this.
So, you know, we actually think less is more.
Currently, we have about 52 linear channels on the platform.
About half of those are behind our Patriot package paywall.
And then when you get that Patriot package for ten bucks a month, you also get the gyms and you get on True Social and you get verified a red check verification because we'll know that you're a human.
And so that's actually been working well.
We've actually been testing that for the last sixty days.
It's actually ready to go.
We're just waiting on our overlords at Apple and Google to approve.
So if you are a Patriot package member for ten bucks a month, you get a hell of a deal because you get Newsmax, one America voice, great American.
We continue to advocate VODs, CuriosityStream.
All this family friendly content and what I will say is the best technology because, and I say that because it's fast, it's clean.
It's only, and by the way, what you see now when you look at Truth Plus, that's version one, like it's improving.
But the key is the technology is fast and we have something that nobody else has, and that is we have seven day playback.
So you don't really have to.
So if you want to go back and watch your favorite host on Real America's Voice or Newsmax or maybe you know, someone said, oh, did you see what happened on Sunday?
You can go back and watch that episode and just watch that.
That one interview you want to see.
Oh, wow.
It's very, very cool.
And the same goes for all these great channels, because we have a lot of we have a lot of the sportsman's channels, hunting, fishing, things of that nature.
So you may not want to watch what's currently on, but if you knew that the show that you liked was on, you go back five days and watch it.
You can also record them if you want to.
So we think we know it's cutting edge technology and remember, once again, can't be canceled.
So you know, it can't be canceled because we own it all.
We own all the infrastructure.
So to your point.
point that you'll be able to pay using the CRO token.
So you'll be able to pay from your crypto dot com wallet and then depending on how much you've used it.
And then, you know, we're still working this out with crypto dot com, but crypto dot com is actually going to give Kronos in some cases so that you'll get some, you know, you'll probably won't even at some point, you know, you'll get a big discount on.
So it's only $10 a month.
And I say only $10 because I know that's money to real people.
But in the reality, compared to all these other wokers out there, I mean, you're spending $50, $100, $25.
I mean, it's, you know, some people pay $150 a month.
Right.
And so you're supporting the people you want to support.
You're getting verified on True Social.
Plus, you're going to have other features that are coming that Apple hasn't approved that if you are a Patriot package member, you will, you know, you will be able to cash in and use those Kronos across the whole platform using your crypto dot com wallet.
So it's really cutting edge.
And we don't know where the technology is going to go X at the end of the day.
It's going to continue to, to, to jump.
And I think this puts us, you know, on the cutting edge of the next generation of how finances and money moves across the internet.
Yeah.
I mean, as of right now, I mean, you have your closed loop system.
You have like a banking system outside of the outside of the normal banking system, you have cryptocurrency.
So most of the transactions will be probably via crypto instead of actually cash.
I mean, eventually, I'm not saying right now.
That's right.
And I think, and then that opens up all kinds of other opportunities, right?
You'll be able to, you know, you'll be able to not only just your Kronos will pay for your, for your Patriot package.
So you'll be part of this big family.
And then, you know, if you want, then you'll be able to move all your stocks, your stock portfolio, everything over to crypto dot com eventually.
So you'll kind of have everything in one spot, you know, with a company.
We wanted to go with a company that was, that was world class, best in class.
Like I said, not to be repetitive, but that had the wallet, the exchange, the licenses, and then a utility token that was already proven out and that can only get better.
And that, that's, that's that commercial arrangement.
Now, the biggest part.
of this, this whole transaction, which is all I'll switch to now, is the treasury company that we're creating jointly with crypto dot com.
So as you as I'm sure you've talked about on your show, these successful cryptocurrencies all have US treasury companies that are essentially building themselves off of these tokens.
So the most famous one is Michael Saylor and what he's done at MicroStrategies.
strategies where he basically just goes out and acquires Bitcoin and puts it on his balance sheet.
You know, one day, it's rumors, I have no idea, but essentially I'm sure that that will get turned into some type of Bitcoin bank of some kind.
That's my guess, not I don't have any inside information.
And then you have companies like ours that have created a Bitcoin Treasury and many others.
You have ones that have now been stood up for Ethereum and some and a few of the other coins have stood up these American Treasury companies.
So.
So when we talked to crypto dot com said, look, we want to have a Treasury company that goes along with this, and they did too.
So we said, look, we're not, you know, you know, part of this is that, you know, this is, you know, we're the ones adopting your utility token.
What are you going to put in?
And crypto dot com stepped up to the plate, put a big portion of their CRO into this new company that we have to get, ultimately get approval through.
It's, it's just, you know, it'll be about a three to four month process.
But they put a billion dollars of CRO.
Wow.
into this company.
And of course, it, it's a joint name.
It's a Trump Media Technology Chrono Strategy company.
It will be totally separate.
There will be a separate board and it will be there just to essentially acquire Kronos and, you know, make sure that there's opportunities for the larger CRO Kronos community globally.
You know, if you want an American company safe place because there's this is way in the weeds, but on these staking tokens, there'll be nodes where you decide where to stake.
So if you want to get some interest on your CRO, we wanted to give a safe place for people to do that.
So that will be coming over the next, you know, afterno the company goes public.
Uh, but, but yeah, it's, you know, a billion dollars and, you know, as of, um, you know, that's already traded up, uh, as high as a couple of billion dollars worth of CRO.
And then that's being done through a SPAC that has a couple of hundred million dollars in it.
Uh, and then once the company goes public, we'll have that there to be able to acquire just like Michael Saylor does with Bitcoin, we'll be able to acquire more and more Kronos into that, into that new public company.
So crypto dot com will own a piece of the treasury company.
We will own it and a piece of the Treasury Company and then there'll be shareholders in there, um, ultimately when it goes public, uh, in the, in the SPAC.
And so that will be publicly traded of which we'll have, you know, a big chunk of it.
Obviously crypto dot com will, will also.
So that's the excitement.
It's, um, it's, you know, it's, uh, if this token, um, does what we believe it's going to do, it's going to compete with, with the best of them that are out there.
The, the names that you've all, everyone has heard of crypto dot com, um, clearly being a token that's now moved from the high twenty to, I don't know, it's around fifteen as we sit today and all the tokens in the world.
It's quite quite something.
And I think that's because we're taking, you know, the Trump Media and Technology Group, our track record.
I think people know that we're, you know, we're a global brand with Truth Social and Truth Plus.
We're taking that with one of the most well known crypto companies in the world that has the namesake crypto dot com comma putting those together.
I think that people, you know, my, my bet is that people want good governance, a public company, transparency, a token that is really used for something.
And that's, and then ultimately, you more and more people and companies will look at what we've done and you know, are you going to go out there and use CRO that you know can be used that you know has stability or are you going to go use, you know, one that's new that may not have a market?
And that's really because there's a ton of coins out there as you well know, but in terms of usable utility tokens that have everything that we wanted, this has it all, which is why we chose to go this route.
So it's a big deal.
There's a lot to it.
But obviously we're trying to do the best thing for the shareholders And we believe that this does it.
And of course, going back to how we started this, we are here to protect freedom of speech.
That's the purpose of this company.
And crypto technology is a big piece of that moving forward.
I think with this pretty much self-contained world that you're creating, I think it also, I don't know if you have plans in doing this, but with the cryptocurrency where, you know, how on different like Rumble and others where they can actually pay influencers, you can use the crypto to pay them.
I think, that would be a very good idea to, you know, get more influencers on the site, more people and, you know, give them tips and things like that from the from the cryptocurrency that they are, you know, where they're getting those rewards where they can use it to help others and build their their their channel if, you know, if people are interested, I don't know if you're heading in that direction, but I I'm just putting it out there.
Yeah.
No, no.
Well, this is what I when I said earlier, we don't know where this technology is going to lead us to.
So, you know, we gotta we gotta build block by block, you know, we as you know, we gotta build a good foundation and then there's going to be be opportunities that will come up, some of which, you know, innovation will occur, right?
Part of like the company that's like us that was born out of necessity, we had to innovate.
We had to do something that nobody has ever done before, which is to build a social media company and a streaming platform without using all the normal channels that one uses.
So the same is true for once we get the, once we get the gyms working and we get all that done and then people are successfully going over and getting a crypto dot com wallet and the Kronos is paying our company for the Patriot package.
Once that's all worked out, then the opportunities are not only limitless, but we don't even know what they're going to be at this point because new and new things are going to be developed around this.
And I'm not a, you know, I don't claim to be a crypto expert by any stretch of imagination, but there's a lot of people that are.
And, you know, people talk about how you're going to be able to tokenize, you know, nearly everything.
And that's, and that's really for protection, right?
This is protection of your assets.
And that's way out there, big thinkers that think about it.
There are a lot of thinkers that think about this stuff, but definitely the opportunities are, are limitless.
To remember, True Social is a very young company.
I mean, it's not like you guys have been doing this for the last fifteen years.
Yeah.
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That we've only been doing this for a year a year and a half.
Yeah.
Because it doesn't count.
You know, the times that we were, we were essentially just a small startup company with very few investors and the president putting his name and brand behind it.
But, you know, that two and a half years that we fought with Biden in the SEC was very damaging to this company.
You know, and there were bad actors involved in all of that.
And so, you know, from day one when I walked in the door, I had to kind of clean up the mess from bad actors, deal with Biden in a corrupt SEC.
And, you know, we fought that fight and won it.
But now we're a brand new startup company that just has been around, you know, since last spring.
I think eventually when, you know, I call them the gatekeepers, you know, Apple and Google, because they really control everything in the app world.
I think once you get permission and once you're able to do what needs to be done, I think this is just going to take off.
Yeah.
Well, look, we're very, we're very proud of it.
And we have a, you know, very, you know, it's amazing that, you know, the very small team of developers that work at this company, you know, let, you know, a lot of these companies just bleed money and bleed money.
And we need cash as startups.
And, you know, outside of the legal fees that we're, that we still have to pay, you know, between the cash assets and everything, you know, last quarter, you know, we actually were cash flow positive on a, just a cash basis, you know, which I think is, you know, rather amazing because a lot of these companies have gone for years, if, but in some cases decades, never making any money.
Now, we have a long way to go in terms of revenue generation, but that's why we're adding what I call these crown jewel assets like Bitcoin and then moving into the CRO Kronos utility token., making strategic investments like we are with the new company that we're creating with crypto dot com dot You know,
ultimately that's now we're focused, you know, on how do you not only we've saved we've saved free speech and I'll go back and I'll say this I said this at the beginning, President Trump probably doesn't win without that, but we've saved free speech for eternity and now we've got to make sure that we've we've.
Plus up the balance sheet and now we're really got to turn into, okay, how do we acquire other crown jewel assets for revenue generation to keep this company going forever?
That's our goal.
And since you mentioned Biden and how they were trying to stop you when you were trying to create and establish true social, we could see why they wanted to stop you.
They wanted to stop free speech because now we have all the evidence coming out with Clapper, Brennan, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, I mean, the list goes, Sally H. The list just goes on.
Adam Schiff, we can't forget about him.
The list just goes on and on and on.
And from the very very beginning, and I guess you're going to have to change hats right now because now you're the chair of the president's intelligence advisory board.
So you're going to have to move into that position right now as we speak.
Everything that you brought up during the convers time you were in Congress is now coming true.
I mean, think about it.
They made you and Cash and the rest look like liars.
Oh, no, this is all conspiracy.
This never really happened.
And now they're releasing the classified information, which is now declassified, and it's proven that everything that you said is right.
I mean, how does that make you feel right now?
Yeah, well, you know, I was on, I did an interview with Laura Trump, uh, so let's go on, on Fox.
And, um, you know, she asked if I was vindicated.
And I said, look, there's, there can't be vindication here.
Um, because too many like for myself and, and President Trump, look, we, you know.
We survived.
President Trump won again.
But X, there's so many people that will never get their lives back that were destroyed by this hoax or a series of hoaxes.
You know, it's dozens of people that lost, lost everything.
You know, you see just in the news recently, you know, Michael Caputo.
They never stopped targeting targeting him.
You know, what was his crime in life that he was a, you know, a consultant on the first Trump campaign.
Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Carter Page.
I mean, he's the poster child child for this.
So, um, so look, there can't be vindication, but what I've always been about is, let's get all the information out there.
And so, you know, I'm as chair of the President's Intelligence Board, I'm working with all with all of the parties involved and making sure that, you know, that this information is getting out.
Um, if you, if you look at, you know, the most, I think, one of the most important reports that were out that came out recently was actually a report that my team did, um, as when I was chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
Um, this report.
This report that looked at all that Tulsi Gabbard released, it looked at all the intelligence back in, you know, 16 and 15, 16, et cetera.
And what was telling about that report that so I used to always I came on your show and I did, you know, hundreds of interviews and testimony and everything else before Congress and I said, look, where are the Russians?
Where are they?
You know, Mueller walked in the door with the Mueller Witch Hunt on that nonsense.
Did he see any Russians?
No.
So, you know, I was always bent on that because I knew that this report where we went through every bit of intelligence, it was certified.
All the agencies, you have anything more?
Is there anything out there?
You have to give it to us.
You know, we subpoenaed it back in 17 and 18.
No, we got it all, so it's all certified that there was no other intelligence out there.
Then President Trump, you know, we wanted that declassified and we fought and fought and fought to get it declassified.
This is going back into 2020.
Right.
President Trump declassified all these documents at the end of 2020.
And so 2021 comes around and we're assuming those are going, they're declassified.
They said it was going to go through a process, supposed to be over at the National Archives and our reports are not there.
It's a 40 page report, went through every bit of intelligence and not surprising, there was nothing that linked Trump to Russia.
The only thing, if anything, is that they that they actually the intelligence showed that if anything, they preferred Hillary Clinton, the Russians.
Right.
And they thought that Hillary Clinton was going to win, which is what most people around the world thought.
Nobody was even paying attention to Trump or the Trump campaign, but there was no intelligence that had anything to do with Trump, period.
And so I I mentioned the National Archives because and and why it's important because why I say this goes back.
This whole fiasco conspiracy hoax started in probably late 15, but for sure early 2016 and it started.
originally and Lee Smith, author and investigative reporter, he is the one that found this early on in sixteen, which was there.
Everybody knows about the Steel dossier, but a lot of people don't know about what he nicknamed or coined the proto dossiers.
Now they were in his original book, The Plot Against the President that that chronicled kind of our investigation of all of this.
It was a best selling book.
But that, um, those proto dossiers were in twenty sixteen.
And what they attempted to do is tie Trump, not necessarily to Putin, but to Eastern European oligarchs.
That's what the proto dossiers were about.
You know, all these weird countries and I say weird, but countries that people haven't heard of, Russia, Ukraine also, and Eastern Europe.
I think it even had some of the stans in it.
It was ridiculous.
None of that worked in early 2016.
And then that's when they switched to let's time the Putin.
And that was, now you know from all the information that's come out that that was done in order to, as a sideshow because of Hillary Clinton's emails that came out.
And they thought that Clinton's emails were going to, more were going to come out.
So clearly there's.
more somewhere that they're that they're worried about and I have a good idea where those are and we continue to you know to to look for this malfeasance that occurred not just by the Clinton campaign but by Comey and everybody else and we'll there'll be more to talk about hopefully one day on that but that 40 page report that was just declassified a month ago that we wrote in 17,
18, 19 and 20 went to the National Archives and so you take 2016 and then you transfer into the Molar the whole fiasco we don't have to replay all that all that, but people know they put together that fake intelligence community assessment after we had already been briefed that nothing had happened.
And people always ask, well, how did you know?
I said, well, I was the only guy that actually had a concern about Putin.
Obama, Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush, no one cared two shits about Putin.
All they did was play patty cake with him for two decades.
So I knew that was ridiculous.
And then I never saw any intelligence and I was briefed after the election that the Russians, Chinese, they did their normal nefarious things that they do on a daily basis, but they didn't have anything that was unusual and it didn't sway the election.
That was the intelligence that we received around Thanksgiving of 16.
Then Obama, now you all know that Obama, the PDB said that, but it was pulled back, that was recently released.
Then let's just fast forward, you got the Molar Witch Hunt that then turns into the Ukraine impeachment hoax with the fake whistleblower, there's more there on that that still hasn't been dealt with.
Then you move on to the Hunter Biden laptop, you move on to they put my staff, including Cash Patel and others, under investigation when we were investigating them.
They did the same thing to Senator Grassley's staff, they put his staff under investigation.
Um, you know, without us knowing, I mean, talk about no separation of powers, uh, never notified.
Um, so many crimes.
I'm just going through all the crimes.
We made a dozen criminal referrals when, when I was House Intelligence Committee chair and ranking member.
Uh, those, you know, disappeared into thin air.
We don't know what, what the hell happened to them.
Um, and then, uh, you have the Hunter Biden laptop.
And then I think the book end where this, where this kind of starts and stops, uh, for the victim here.
Who was the main victim was President Trump.
Obviously there were the other people we had talked about that were victims that fell apart because of this.
It was an attack on the opposing political party, the Republican Party and its leader that went on for nearly a decade and it culminates, and I'm going to bring this back around, it culminates with the National Archives.
So the National Archives made the criminal referral to Raid Mar a Lago.
Now, why would the National Archives make a criminal referral?
What were they looking for that they didn't have?
have true.
And that raid is by far the worst thing that the FBI and DOJ has ever done in this country to raid a former president's home when he was cooperating with them.
What I believe and, and you know, I haven't seen all the documents yet and hopefully they'll all come out and maybe, but they had to have some reason.
What was the predicate?
What were they looking for?
You know, we saw the fake pictures with the classified documents spread out pictures, you know, made for TV.
They obviously had alerted the news right when that raid occurred.
So, you know, they knew, you know, the president wasn't going to be there.
I mean, this is crazy, crazy shit that happened.
And I can say that now that I'm not in Congress.
So the archives makes a criminal referral as when Cash Patel and John Solomon were the designated, the report investigative reporter John Solomon, which is the news.
They went over to the archives.
Where's the where's the Nunes intelligence report at?
Wasn't there.
Well, where is it?
And, you know, so I think what they did, part of what they did is they were looking for, they basically assumed that, I think that that report, because it was so damning, and there's I know there's been so much, but that report of all the reports that have been out there that that should have stopped and started, you know, that should have stopped everything in its tracks, you know, the fact that there wasn't a scintilla of evidence.
Now we knew it, ultimately, because Mueller comes, you know, Mueller walks in the door, where's the Russians?
Oh, sir, we don't have any, so we're going to go get process crimes.
Remember that?
Yeah.
And so then they just they just kept doubling down, doubling down, and they were willing to do anything and everything.
And they were hoping, in my opinion, that one of the documents that was there was essentially my document, because, you know, they accuse you of doing things they actually do.
So I'm sure they thought in their warped minds, their poisoned brains, that, you know, because Trump and I are, are close, I work with him, you know, that I must have, you know, me and Cash Patel must have secretly given that document to him.
The answer is no.
We didn't because we don't do those kinds of things.
But it shows you that they do it.
And now we know, with all the recent information that's come out on Adam Schiff, that we knew he was leaking the whole time, but there was actually the FBI and DOJ knew he was leaking the whole time.
And what did they do?
They went after my staff, not him, not his people, they went after my staff.
So look, and those people, how are they ever going to get vindicated?
So that's kind of the book end.
It's a grand conspiracy.
The more information that comes out, the better.
And hopefully, these bastards pay a price.
But there's it's too late for vindication.
There can only be a real correction moving forward so that this doesn't happen again.
And that's what the president's tasked me with to do.
Do you think these individuals, they were the same people that actually, since they were trying to stop them in 2016, do you think they were trying to stop them in 2020, are they the ones who rigged the election?
It's many of the same people.
Okay.
So I've said this that, you know, you probably, I mean, I could write a list quickly of probably fifteen to twenty, but it's probably about three dozen people that were all involved.
And so I mean, there might have been some others, like they found some of them that Durham found.
It's funny what Durham did, right?
I think what they told Durham is, you can only look at this, you can only look at this, this piece of it.
And he did a pretty good job of finding people that we weren't even able to find, like the guy that altered the FISA document and then got slapped on the wrist and didn't serve any time, but clearly the mandate that Garland gave him didn't give him the mandate that he needed or barred before that to really go out and get the people who were responsible for this.
And it's not hard to know who was responsible.
We now, everyone knows, I knew for a long time, everyone knows that it it.
It was Team Obama was responsible for this.
All of his people.
So many of those people stay the same.
They move, they move from Obama administration down to deep state locations and nonprofits and that sort of thing during the first Trump administration causing havoc and then right back into Obama's second or third Obama's third term.
That's being a little sarcastic there, but Biden.
I know what you're saying.
He wasn't actually the president.
Yeah.
So his people were running that, that whole show.
Many of them were involved at the Department of Justice and the FBI and everywhere else.
So there's the, the, the, the, the.
The top people really, if they can't charge them, they have to absolutely there has to be information put out on all of this so it never happens again.
Laws, I mean, I think the laws were in place.
The question is, is the passage of time?
I think that's what everybody's looking at is, you know, it's clearly a grand conspiracy.
And, you know, once the investigation, you know, the investigation as I understand it, I don't have insight into that.
But, you know, as I understand it, they're going to be going through documents and I'm assuming they'll start picking up the pieces of my investigation of.
of the work that Senator Grassley has done, whatever, you know, was there from the Durham report.
That's what has to and they all have to be looked at because they were all involved, including Jack Smith.
Do you think Hillary's emails, you think they still exist?
I yeah, I mean, look, the answer is, do I believe they exist?
I believe they do.
And I say that because why were they so hell bent on.
On stopping on coming up, building up this whole campaign ploy in 2016.
Remember they switched from let's make Trump into an Eastern European oligarch because he wanted to put a hotel somewhere and they switched to Putin.
So it tells me that at least there must be not only emails but other, a lot more information out there on these corrupt criminals that we don't yet know.
I believe it exists.
But look, we're going, we're going to find this information or we're going to do everything we can to find it.
And if we find it, it will be interesting.
It would have been from ten years ago, but it definitely could play into the shenanigans of, and I go back to that raid at Mara Lago, because that really is what ties, you know, everything together.
They were so bent, and everything, remember, I think Cash used to say, All roads lead to Rushogate.
Yeah.
It's true.
All roads lead to Rushogate.
I mean, all these criminals were involved in this.
I'm surprised with Mara Lago that they weren't so desperate where, yes, they used the cover sheets and they put on a whole production, but I'm surprised they didn't actually plant documents or something.
You think they wanted to?
Well, yeah, but they didn't have my document.
That was the problem.
I guess that was the problem.
Because, oddly enough, this has now come out that we made sure that the document was secured.
The original document was secured in a safe.
Really?
And so it stayed there until and look, kudos to the Republicans in Congress, especially the new chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rick Crawford, Republican from Arkansas.
You know, he pushed to get that report out.
So wait a minute.
You know, that he and others had worked on, John Ratcliffe, I mean, Cash Patel, I mean, we had done four years of work on it.
So wait, you're saying your document was kept in a safe away from so they didn't know where it was.
They didn't know where it was or they couldn't get to it.
They probably knew where it was, but they couldn't get to it.
So it was in a skiff, in a skiff secured, but only the House Republicans had access to it.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's probably why this messed them up, messed them up.
I guess if they had access and they were able to get it, they probably would have planted it on Trump.
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Well, we, you know, obviously we were prepared for them..
And look, we weren't unlike them, we followed the rules.
Yes.
Right?
So, you know, they're they're willing to break the law and, you know, me as a Republican, we're about rule of law.
As you said from the very beginning, I think they project, you know, their crimes on you, on Trump, on everyone because they're like, well, if we would hide this, if we would invent this, they would do the same exact thing.
And I think every time they do this, it's proven that they're wrong every single time.
Because they, that's why they have to make it all up.
Because they're like, crap, they didn't do what we thought they were going to do.
So let's make it up.
Yeah.
Well, that's like, that's why we know whatever's out there must be really bad.
Because remember the emails that came out in the 2016 campaign?
They were funny, but yeah.
Oh, like Bernie Sanders was mad at Hillary Clinton and some staff members did some bad things.
I mean, no, nobody gave a shit about that.
You know, so it didn't, I mean, it was, it was embarrassing for them, but, but look, the documents and there's, there must be a lot of bad information out there.
And, and look, we're going to continue to, to, to do at least what I can from my perch to make sure that we follow all these trails out and then, you know, give it to the appropriate authorities.
How much more do you think is going to be coming out from, I mean, now until maybe the midterms or even past that?
I mean, a lot more?
Because I know I think Trump said Tulsi and Cash, they're maybe Pambandi, who was, they're looking into the election rigging.
So it seems like they're like building up the whole grand conspiracy.
So do you think there's going to be a lot more coming out about all of these individuals?
I look, I sure I think the key will be when the investigation starts and then and then or maybe they say it's already started.
And I think you have to look at that in kind of two different buckets.
You have the all roads lead to Russia Gate.
Rush gate bucket and then you have the election fraud bucket, which is actually probably related people, but but a whole cast of other characters, right, that that are involved in in the election shenanigans.
You think fraud related all know each other, but right.
But, you know, like I don't believe that Comey and Brennan were out, you know, in different states playing games with No, I don't.
Yeah.
I agree.
But I do, but I do believe that, you know, look, it's what the president has said.
I mean, this is again being from California.
is a disaster.
We have mail and ballots good just everywhere.
I mean, one, one election I got, I had a cousin of mine got three ballots.
Three ballots to the same address.
Wow.
So did he fill them all out?
Did he fill them all out?
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Did he fill them all out and set it up?
No.
That's a good thing.
Anonymous.
She's a Republican.
She just follows the rules.
Right.
Yeah, actually, she at the time I was in office and called the, oh, hey, what do I do with this?
I don't want to.
I think she called the elections office and that was in, you know, part of California that is still, you know, somewhat sane.
Where you visited.
Yeah.
Do you think Obama was involved in the election rigging in some way?
Oh, he's smiling.
Personally, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know enough to know.
I mean, his people probably.
Yeah.
But, you know, the electionary people.
I think what most people are wondering is, like, are we going to see any type of accountability?
I mean, are people going to be arrested?
Are people going to go to jail?
Because, I mean, the stuff that they did to Trump and to you and to everyone else, I mean, this really damaged the country.
It's an act of treason against the country.
Do you think these people are going to jail?
Look, I made a dozen criminal referrals.
As I said earlier, I didn't make those because I made it up.
I made it because they broke the law.
And so, you know, the only challenge they do have on some of this is the statute of limitations, but I don't believe that there could be some things that happened that are past the statute of limitations, but the rate of Mar a Lago was, you know, three years ago.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's not past the statute of limitations.
And if there, I mean, I'm not saying Comey or Brennan, I think certain people were used at the time that they needed them to be, you know, to do certain tasks, but I mean, if there are a small handful of people that were involved in the rigging of the election, that's just another crime that they committed against this country.
Right.
So, I mean, the statute of limitations is not up on that yet.
No, more to, I'm sure there's more to come.
Yeah.
More to come on that.
But, you know, my speciality, as you know, I mean, I'm, you know, spent all my, you know, my whole career in the intelligence and defense world.
And so, you know, I was involved in these.
I was involved in one of the first investigations I was involved in was Benghazi, the bin Laden documents that were hidden from the American people.
These are all these were precursors to their grand conspiracy when they created the Russia hooks.
So do you think these individuals, do you think they have any type of, I don't mean weapon ammunition, but ammunition to fight back any more?
Do you think they're just done right now and that's it?
Well, they're like cacophores.
You know, you know the old story that the only thing and I have no idea if this is true, but supposedly a nuclear fallout only cacophores survive.
So you have to smash them.
I mean, they they have to be smashed.
And I think, you know, you asked me, you know, I think if they don't get smashed, when I say smashed, meaning that, you know, they need to they need to be they need to be at least indicted.
That raises a whole other question that I know you've covered on your show because I've heard because, you know, now you got problems with jurisdictions and judges.
Right.
You know, that the spoilage and the rot has gone from DNC, Clinton's, Obama rotted into the intelligence and defense world.
Like we talked about, they even corrupted the National Archives.
And then they corrupted the court system.
And you're seeing that every day with these decisions.
Every day.
So the key will be, is who, who, you know, who were the, who broke the law?
And what's the jurisdiction?
Where's the grand jury convened?
And then, and then, you know, what judge do you get?
But, I mean, it seems to me impossible that they couldn't indict people, whether or not they're.re whether or not they you get a fair judge and a fair jury that I that that I don't know but hope springs eternal, my friend.
I mean, do you think I guess with certain people would it go to a military trial?
I mean, right now the judiciary I feel is all messed up.
I don't feel like a lot of the judges they're you know, either blackmailed or something's up with them as I think people are starting to see.
Could this actually be moved to the military instead of using the judiciary if the judiciary is so bad?
Well, look, this is me.
I'm not a lawyer.
But I just have to deal with lawyers for my whole life, basically.
So you're like a lawyer.
Yeah.
Look, from my perspective, there's lots of victims here, but President Trump's the victim.
President Trump resides in Florida.
The raid of Mar a Lago occurred in Florida.
Okay.
Seems to me like that's where you would put a grand jury.
So, you know, in a state like Florida, look, in most of the red states, the, you know, the justice system seems to be working.
Not perfectly, but it's working.
I'm assuming that those players would want it to go to a blue state and I guess that would be the fight in the end of where all this ends.
Well, if you put it, especially if you put it in Washington DC then or even Northern Virginia, you're going to have a problem.
Oh, no, that's that's the worst place to have that.
That's the worst place.
Yeah.
That's the worst.
Right.
I mean, there's probably worse places, but like, it wouldn't go to San Francisco, right?
No, well, or New York City because there's there's no there's no nexus there.
Right.
But, but anyway, we'll, uh, yeah.
Stay tuned.
We'll find out.
We'll have to see how that all plays out.
And, you know, just to wrap this up, I mean, in the beginning we were talking about your wine and how I was out there tasting your new wine.
It's going to be released this fall.
Your Yeah, yeah.
It's, uh, so, you know, I've just for those, for those folks listening that haven't heard this before, it's my kind of passion and my hobby.
Um, and I make, I've taken Portuguese varietals from Portugal that have that are growing in the in California and I'm making Portugal blends.
And my, my, you know, belief is that the weather, especially on the Central central coast of California is even better than in Portugal.
So you should be able to make those varieties best on the central coast of California.
So that's San Los Obispo, Paso Robles area that you and misses X visited.
When it comes to Cabs, I still believe in the Bordeaux varietals.
I still believe that, you know, Napa is at the top.
But as you know, my Bordeaux are very, very good.
I'm very, very proud of them.
And we'll see.
You know, the key to those is, you know, do they stand the test of time??
How do they age?
I believe that the cabs that I've that I've created there are going to be amazing, but we won't know for five to ten years.
You know how that I mean, you're a wine afficionado, so you understand that.
But the Portuguese blends that I'm making over there are in my mind absolutely, I'm, you know, as you know, very proud of them because I think they're unique.
I think you're not going to really find wine like this anywhere else in the world.
And so I'm making something that really nobody else has.
And, you know, I grew up grapes for raisins and for bulk wine, you know, the jug, the jug wine.
So it's always been something that I've that I've wanted to do and I'm very, very proud of it and I'm, and I'm glad.
Oh, and by the way, sorry if you go to devinnunaswines.com you can you and I think normally you'll put that up on the screen.
Yeah, yeah.
And we can and if you put in x twenty two if you join the club, the club shipment goes out in November just in time for the holidays and if you don't like it you can send it back but nobody's nobody's sent it back because we have a lot of the x twenty two.
viewers and listeners that have that are members and have joined the club.
And we always give a X twenty two discount.
So if you put an X twenty two, we'll do the free shipping.
And you can even if you order the club for that will go in November, we do have some wines.
I don't like shipping them.
We're about at the stage where I feel comfortable shipping.
I like shipping them when it's too hot.
But if you wanted to order some additional wines, the discount includes if you order additional wines.
And once you're in the club, you always have the discount.
And you can put those so you could order some wines from last year or the year before.
that we still have in stock, uh, if you wanted the wine, uh, before, and we'll give you the same discount, discount on that.
But I think people have found that it makes, you know, I like sending them out, you know, first part of November, even though they're going to be very young wines.
Um, but I like sending them out then because people have them for the holidays and they have them for, uh, for Thanksgiving first and then for, you know, the Christmas and New Year holidays.
And, um, you know, people love to take them to their liberal friends and relatives because they have Devin Nunes on the bottle.
So.
I just want to mention everyone that would drive them more crazy than anything if it had the name Trump.
Oh yeah.
Oh my God.
That would be crazy.
I just want to let everyone know when you're using X twenty two, I don't get anything from this.
This is all Devin.
You're only using the code so you can track and who gets free shipping and things like that.
So I don't I don't get anything from this or anything like this.
This is all Devin's wine things.
Yes, I do drink his wine.
Yes, I have bottles of his wine.
So I'm kind of biased in that way.
And actually, if you let his wines sit and let them age a little bit, they taste better and better and better as time goes on.
And they're actually very, very good.
And let me just say.
his designs of the bottles, they're also very good because you have, you know, the Patriot wine, the Reserve, and what you've done to the bottles are actually classic.
So when you finish the wine, you actually don't have to throw the bottle out.
You can you can keep it and use it for something else because it actually looks nice.
So yeah, that's it.
Thank you.
And you know what that is?
That's the old school.
That's the old school lead ring that I used on that bottle.
How bottles used to be made, you know, a couple of hundred years ago, before you had, you know, stickers that you could stick on wine.
You essentially, you know, would have to paint on them.
So yeah, it's it's and I'll tell you., I actually had a bottle the other night, my 21, what we call Central Coast, which is now going to become the hidden gem, which will be named after my daughters hidden gem.
So it's JEM, not related to truth gems that we were talking about earlier.
Wait, we're not getting rewards if we drink that.
Well, the reward is drinking it.
Oh, there you go.
But JEM for my, for my three daughters.
So we call it hidden gem.
But in 21, it was called Central Coast.
I actually had a bottle the other night.
I hadn't had one in a while.
And they're aging very, very nicely.
And you know, that's for me, that's for me, it's crit for me, it's critical.
Obviously, I want wine to be, to open it.
And like, like you said, X, you want to decant it, make sure you get plenty of air on it because they're young and they're powerful.
But, you know, for me, perfection is that when someone opens these wines, you know, ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, they're still going to be amazing.
And I'm that twenty one Central Coast is, I was really, really impressed with it.
So obviously, I'm, you know, I'm biased, but and people should know.
And I actually, X, you met them, but, you know, we have a real wine maker.
It's not me and X out there, you know, making the wine, but a good buddy of mine., Mike Siner, who is one of the top winemakers in California, him and I and Connor, who who kind of runs the kind of the day to day of the small operation, you know, three of us do,
you know, do all the blending and we, you know, there's as you saw out there, you know, we got, you know, a couple of rows here, a couple of rows there, um, and and believe it or not, this hidden gem this year, um, that's going to come out in the fall, it actually has five varieties, five different Portuguese varieties in it.
I I think we had a, uh, a Central Coast, um, bottle when we were having dinner.
I don't know if it was a 2021, but I think we pop one open.
I think we opened the 22.
Maybe it was the 22.
Oh, no, no, no.
We did open the 21.
It was okay.
It wasn't.
That's right.
Yeah, we did.
You did.
Yeah, it was actually very good.
Yeah.
Very, very good.
That that was really good.
I mean, and so yeah.
So, so, you know, like I said, I, I, you know, I'm very proud of these.
I hope everyone, uh, you know, uh, enjoys them and they make good Christmas gifts and, and things for, for holidays and, uh, and we'll put you in the club and you'll get the discount.
Yeah.
So what I'll do is I'll put all the links at the bottom of the video.
This way you can go right over to his website.
You can order whatever you want to order.
And again, I don't get anything from this.
This is all Devin.
He, you know, he spends the time making the wine.
I just help him drink it.
That's all I do.
So I'll put all the links there.
You can go right over if you're interested in wine.
Actually, it would be very nice for the holiday season.
And Devin, I want to thank you for coming on the X twenty two Report Spotlight.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Thank you to you and your audience.
I really appreciate it.
And say hi to misses X for me.
I will.
Thank you.
Okay.
Thank you.
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