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Aug. 15, 2025 - X22 Report
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H Schlanger – [DS] Chose Russia For The Russia Hoax Because It Threatened Their New World Order

Harley Schlanger, a historian and national spokesman with expertise in the financial industry since the 1980s, offers insights through The LaRouche Organization, where followers can access his analyses on geopolitics and economics. In his recent discussion, Schlanger argues that the [DS], or Deep State, targeted Russia due to its threat to their envisioned new world order, actively preventing any U.S.-Russia alliance that could promote cooperation and undermine globalist control. This opposition mirrors their resistance to former President Trump's efforts to improve relations with Russia, using investigations and media campaigns to thwart his initiatives, while leveraging Ukraine as a proxy to escalate tensions and block partnerships. Schlanger highlights how Ukraine has served as a tool for sanctions, NATO expansion, and conflicts that distract from Western domestic issues and benefit elites. With Trump's renewed focus on peace negotiations and diplomatic resets, this agenda faces direct challenges, potentially leading to collaborative projects and reduced divisions. As the [DS] structure crumbles amid economic instability and public scrutiny, Schlanger predicts that dismantling the Federal Reserve—seen as a pillar of elite power—will mark the endgame, paving the way for sovereign policies and international equity.

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Let's talk about protecting our wealth.
Presenting my digital money, where retirement grows and stays safe.
Experts say you'll need $4 million to retire comfortably.
And with inflation rising fast, even $100,000 a year is now considered low income according to MIT.
So, how do you get there?
Bitcoin may be the answer.
It's already surged past $111,000.
And top analysts say it could reach $300,000 to $1.5 million by 2030.
That's the kind of growth that can turn $100,000 into $1 million in five years.
But don't just grow your assets, protect them.
With my digital money crypto IRA, your Bitcoin grows tax-free and is secured in military-grade military signature cold storage, keeping your assets safe from online security threats.
Even better, your holdings are segregated from business operations, so there's no commingling and you never are treated as an unsecured creditor, unlike other platforms.
Go to mydigitalmoney.com to get started.
Grow it, guard it, own your future.
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Ordering online requires trust, and they take that seriously.
That's why they're offering privacy-focused packaging, secure payment options, and a dedicated customer support team that's with you every step of the way.
They're committed to making sure your experience is seamless, safe, and private.
And here's a special offer for everyone that's listening.
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They're here to provide you with affordable, high-quality health care delivered fast and discreetly.
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You know what's interesting?
I think everyone needs to hear this.
If you're getting close to retirement or just thinking ahead, you've probably done a solid job of saving.
But here's something most people don't consider: how much of that money is just sitting in cash?
It might feel safe, but holding too much cash guarantees one thing.
You're losing purchasing power.
Inflation eats away at it and the dollar's value keeps slipping.
That's why more people are looking at real assets like physical gold and silver to protect their savings.
And what are the companies making it easy?
Noble Gold Investments.
You can buy gold or silver, coins, or bars and have them shipped to your home or stored securely.
It's a smart way to convert cash into something that actually holds value.
NobleGold is fair, transparent, and they don't pressure you.
Just solid information and real options.
Visit x22gold.com.
That is x22gold.com.
Go today to x22gold.com.
When you own real assets, you have real wealth.
And remember, past performance may not be indicative of future results.
Investing in precious metals involves risk.
consult your financial advisor before making investment decisions.
Hi, and welcome to the X22 Report Spotlight.
Today we have a returning guest, Harley Schlanger.
Harley is an historian, a national spokesman.
He's been covering the financial industry since the 80s.
You can follow Harley at the LaRouche organization.
And I am very happy and honored to have Harley back on the X22 Report Spotlight.
Harley, welcome back to the spotlight.
Oh, Dave, it's great to be back with you.
Thanks for coming back.
And, you know, going back in time, we were talking about Russia, who was involved.
And here we are.
I mean, fast forward to today.
And here we are.
The evidence now is being declassified.
The evidence is now coming out.
And we're starting to see who the players actually are and what they've done.
Of course, they're still denying it.
They're pretending that this is all fake.
But what's very interesting about all this, and I just want to ask you this question: why do you think they chose Russia when they started this whole Russian collusion thing?
Why did they pick Russia?
Why didn't they pick North Korea?
Why didn't they pick, you know, some other country?
Why was it Russia?
Well, this wasn't picked by people like Brennan and Clapper because they're sort of underlings.
The ones that Tulsi Gabbard is exposing through declassified documents, they're sort of the puppets.
The decision to go after Russia came from the city of London and Wall Street, the top financial oligarchs.
And there's a reason for it because they started targeting Russia As far back as the middle of the 19th century.
And why was that?
Well, the British Empire, which when you talk about the city of London or Amsterdam or Venice, the old empire, their wealth depended on control of trade routes, control of ports, and the ability to get other countries to have to deal with their currency.
Now, Russia was always a problem for the British Empire because it's so large.
It has so much raw material wealth.
And in the modern period, you know, of course, for a while it was communist, but under Putin, it's become a leader of a nationalist sovereign movement internationally.
So the decision was made to weaken Russia because they saw Russia as a potential threat to the continuation of what was the neocon unipolar order.
And it's the unipolar order that's crashing.
And it makes them more desperate than ever to try to weaken Russia.
Because if you have the United States and Russia in an alliance, and I think, Dave, you know historically, Russia was allied with us in the American Revolution, in the Civil War.
They allied with us in the two world wars of the 20th century.
If you have the U.S. and Russia together, then the city of London can't play their games.
They can't control things.
And the whole idea of the global central banks was to keep the power in London and Wall Street.
So that's why Russia was chosen.
And the fact that Clapper and Brennan and these guys are about to get their due is wonderful.
But we've got to also pay attention to who are the string pullers.
But I think there's a lot of EU countries that are also involved in this.
And I think it also brings in Ukraine because we could see that the EU countries, I mean, Zelensky flew over and he met the leaders from all the different EU countries while Trump is working with Putin.
He's going to meet him in Alaska.
They're going to discuss peace.
So we have two sides.
We have the EU, Zelensky, still trying to push war because I really don't think they really want peace.
That's not their, I don't think that's really what they want.
And you have Trump and Putin, which I do believe Putin most likely wants that peace.
Of course, I think he wants his, you know, the land in the Donbass, Crimea, the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine.
But we have two sides here.
And I think Trump, he's actually battling not Putin, but actually Zelensky and the EU.
Well, when you talk about puppets, Zelensky is the perfect puppet.
Yeah.
An actor who's able to run around the world and plead for money and has no compunction about going to countries that are poor or countries that are having their own problems and say, give us more money.
But you're right.
I'll get to the EU in a second.
But the EU and NATO, Trump has always had a correct view of them.
That not only did he call them freeloaders, but they had no national interests.
They're essentially run by a corporate cartel out of Brussels called the European Union and the European Commission.
And this is Ursula von der Leyen Kallas, the former Estonian prime minister.
And they think that they can get the United States to go to war with Russia on behalf of what?
Ukraine, freedom and democracy.
There's no freedom and democracy in Ukraine.
Zelensky's term is over.
He's a dictator.
So the European Union is one of the biggest frauds around, but it's competing with the United States and Russia to try to control markets.
And the problem it has is that because of their commitment to the green policy, they don't produce anymore.
I mean, I'm here in Germany.
The auto sector is about to disappear.
This was the driver for Germany and Europe, but they've torn it down.
So they're trying to figure out how can they loot Russia.
And the whole point of Ukraine, and by the way, Brzezinski in his 1997 book on the global chessboard said that the West is going to have to use Ukraine as a tipping point, as a pivot to break up Russia.
And so this has been, as I said, it's been in the works for a long time.
It's a long time British strategy.
Kissinger and Brzezinski were part of this.
The second string benchwormers like Blinken and Madeleine Albright have the same view.
And of course, when you talk about the European Union, look at Macron.
He's about 20% popularity in France.
Look at Meritz.
He's at 29%, but his party is down to 24%.
Look at Starmer in Great Britain.
These are countries that are poor.
Their infrastructure is collapsing.
Their health systems collapsing.
And Trump put pressure on them to have a military buildup.
And they're doing that at the expense of their population, as if they could actually fight Russia in a war.
So there's if you look in a dictionary, the term delusion, you'll see Starmer, Macron, and Meritz.
That's the delusion.
But they're playing a game that they were selected to run.
When we talk about the big players, we're talking about the people in the corporate cartels such as J.P. Morgan Chase, the Rockefeller Banks, the Rothschild banks, Lazard Frere, the old familiar names are the ones who operate through the think tanks in Brussels and London and Washington.
And they're the ones making the policy.
And where Trump is different is that Trump's view is that the policy should be made on behalf of the people, not the cartels.
And he has a big fight because in his first term, when he tried to clear out the swamp, they ran RussiaGate against him and pulled all sorts of stunts to keep him from succeeding and keep him away from Putin.
Now he has a team with Gabbard in particular.
I think Gabbard's doing a good job.
Hopefully Patel will do the job that they're actually targeting the people in the Obama administration and the Biden administration who were responsible for the lies of RussiaGate.
So this is all good.
And now that Trump is going to meet with Putin, my fingers are crossed that the British won't pull some kind of stunt, a false flag or something in the next 24 to 48 hours.
But once this meeting happens, they're going to have a hard time turning back the clock.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
With Trump meeting Putin in Alaska, you know, this gives them an opportunity in Ukraine.
And we know that Zelensky and others in Ukraine, they love pulling false flags.
They like blaming it on Russia.
Oh, look, this missile came from Russia when it really didn't.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they try to do something.
I'm not saying they're going to, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to distract from what's happening in Alaska.
Well, that's the importance of having a team like Gabbard and Patel.
What Gabbard has done by declassifying these documents and whether Obama ever goes to prison or not isn't the most important point.
A message is being sent to these deep state criminals, which is that you're going to be held accountable.
And this is a fight that Gabbard can't fight alone.
Trump can't fight it alone.
The American people have to get behind it because what's being done in our name is criminal.
We're running up an incredibly unpayable debt.
You know, the national debt is now over 37 trillion, but private sector and corporate debt is about another 200 to 300 trillion.
The dollar is being put under terrible pressure.
And the people who are doing it are the same ones who are trying to stop Trump.
But the decision to meet with Putin at this time in particular was the right one to do.
And I think the meeting that Witkoff had with Putin last week was crucial because what they talked about, besides Ukraine, and look, the situation in Ukraine is pretty much resolved because the Ukrainian military is collapsing.
Short of false flags or some kind of missile attacks on Moscow, they can't do much.
And that's why the EU is a paper tiger.
Trump was right.
The NATO is a paper tiger.
But they can still pull a stunt against the dollar.
And that's one of the last weapons that they have.
So, I mean, I'm going to talk about the dollar in a sec, but I just want to ask you this question.
We know the players here in the United States who went ahead with the Russian inclusion, Hillary Clinton, Brandon Clapper, Obama was involved, Sally Yates.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
But They were working with other individuals out in England.
They were working with individuals out in Germany.
So eventually, do you think that information has to come out of who they were working with?
Because to get the intelligence, to get the information, they were coordinating with other countries.
Well, you may remember, Dave, because we talked about this as it was going on in 2017, 2018, the LaRouche organization put together a picture of who internationally was working with the Obama administration, Brennan Clapper, and so on.
But that never came out because the lies were so thick, the media protection was so intense that it's now only now that we're getting the story that these guys completely concocted the whole story of RussiaGate.
There was no Russian hacking.
And that was proven by Bill Binney, the former National Security Technical Advisor.
There was no collusion between Trump and Putin.
And now that that's being wiped away, the question is: get to the deeper level.
And that's why we just put together a report, a white paper, on who actually was responsible for RussiaGate.
And it started in 2015, even before Trump came down the staircase.
A man named Robert Hannigan, who is a long-term Tony Blair operative.
And everyone knows Blair as the lying piece of garbage who got us involved in the Iraq War.
But Hannigan was in charge of the British cyber warfare division called GCHQ.
And in the summer of 2015, he said we're picking up suspicious indication of Russian meddling in the U.S. election.
And no one in the U.S. at that time, the intelligence agencies, said we don't see that.
It wasn't until after Trump wrapped up the Republican nomination in June 2016 that Hannigan personally came to the United States and met with Brennan.
Now, at the same time, you had a crew of operatives around Sir Richard Girloff, the former head of MI6, which included people like Joseph Mesoud, Alexander Downer.
Some of these names may be familiar in the back of the mind, but we put it all together in a report to show that if you're really going to root this out, you have to go to these control networks because these are the people from the city of London who work inside the U.S. administration on behalf of the corporate cartels.
Not the American people, not the English people, but the corporate cartels of the city of London.
And so that's where Gabbard has to go now with the investigation.
I think she's willing to do it because, look, she knows Clapper.
She knows Brennan is not a smart guy.
I mean, just the way he ran roughshod over the CIA, there were CIA operatives who said they don't believe this.
The NSA, the U.S. Cyber Warfare Division under Admiral Mike Rogers, said they had very low confidence in the report that the Russians hacked the Clinton emails.
Turns out, now we know Hillary Clinton had a law firm that paid the British to write this whole script.
And that's where Christopher Steele came in, the P dossier, and all this stuff.
So everything about the Russia gate was an attempt to keep the United States and Russia at odds.
And that meant they had to stop Trump.
And I'll just point to one other example of this or two others.
The two days before Trump's inauguration in 2017, the London Spectator had a front page article which said, will Trump be assassinated, impeached, or thrown out of office?
Now, in 2018, the city of London, the House of Lords, did a report where they said, under no circumstances can Trump be elected in 2020, because if he is, that will end the special relationship.
Now, what's the special relationship?
The five eyes.
That's the British-Canadian influence on U.S. intelligence.
So all the signs are there.
They've been covered up.
And so we put out this dossier.
If anyone wants to see it, they can send me an email and I'll send you a link.
I think you had a Chance to look at it.
It's a pretty compact 12-page report on where people should look if they want to know who's doing this.
Who is behind the deep state?
Yeah, it's very, very detailed, and you laid it out very, very nicely.
And for anyone that wants to see it, I'll put it at the bottom of the video so you can link right to it and view it.
So you said something that was very, very interesting when you said that Trump is going to look at the five eyes, might remove the five I's, because they were involved in the intelligence.
Because here in the United States, of course, we have the Constitution and the CIA, FBI, they can't spy on, you know, the people of this country.
But you can have other countries like the UK or New Zealand.
Let's talk about protecting our wealth.
Presenting my digital money where retirement grows and stays safe.
Experts say you'll need $4 million to retire comfortably.
And with inflation rising fast, even $100,000 a year is now considered low income according to MIT.
So how do you get there?
Bitcoin may be the answer.
It's already surged past $111,000.
And top analysts say it could reach $300,000 to $1.5 million by 2030.
That's the kind of growth that can turn 100,000 into 1 million in five years.
But don't just grow your assets, protect them.
With my digital money crypto IRA, your Bitcoin grows tax-free and is secured in military-grade military signature cold storage, keeping your assets safe from online security threats.
Even better, your holdings are segregated from business operations, so there's no commingling and you never are treated as an unsecured creditor, unlike other platforms.
Go to mydigitalmoney.com to get started.
Grow it, guard it, own your future.
Hey, listeners, if you're in need of trusted medication like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, amoxicillin, look no further than reliablerxstore.com, your reliable online pharmacy for high-quality generics.
Not only can you save up to 70% compared to brand name options, they can guarantee swift express shipping that's discreet, ensuring your medications arrive quickly and privately at your doorstep.
Ordering online requires trust, and they take that seriously.
That's why they're offering privacy-focused packaging, secure payment options, and a dedicated customer support team that's with you every step of the way.
They're committed to making sure your experience is seamless, safe, and private.
And here's a special offer for everyone that's listening.
If you use promo code X22 to get 10% off your order, plus spend over $299, they'll throw in free shipping, making it easier than ever to get the medications you need.
If you can't find the medication you're looking for on the website, no worries.
Just send them an email and they'll arrange it for you.
Visit reliablerxstore.com and order with confidence.
They're here to provide you with affordable, high-quality health care delivered fast and discreetly.
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You know what's interesting?
I think everyone needs to hear this.
If you're getting close to retirement or just thinking ahead, you've probably done a solid job of saving.
But here's something most people don't consider.
How much of that money is just sitting in cash?
It might feel safe, but holding too much cash guarantees one thing.
You're losing purchasing power.
Inflation eats away at it and the dollar's value keeps slipping.
That's why more people are looking at real assets like physical gold and silver to protect their savings.
And what are the companies making it easy?
Noble gold investments.
You can buy gold or silver, coins or bars and have them shipped to your home or stored securely.
It's a smart way to convert cash into something that actually holds value.
NobleGold is fair, transparent, and they don't pressure you.
Just solid information and real options.
Visit x22gold.com.
That is x22gold.com.
Go today to x22gold.com.
When you own real assets, you have real wealth.
And remember, past performance may not be indicative of future results.
Investing in precious metals involves risk.
Consult your financial advisor before making investment decisions.
Germany.
Germany has a big time cyber operation.
Right.
So they can actually spy on the American people, then hand that data off to the CIA.
And the CIA could say, we never spied on anyone.
Well, that's what Snowden pointed out with the whole operation, that there was one layer removed from culpability.
And remember, Clapper lied when he said, well, we don't keep data, metadata on anyone.
Of course they do.
Now, the interesting thing about the British and the European side is that this was done with the full cooperation of the Obama security team.
Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Joe Biden was the point man for Ukraine.
And the key point was in 2014, the coup in Ukraine against an elected, a democratically elected government that was overthrown by a coup that was funded, as Victoria Newland admitted, by $5 billion from the National Endowment for Democracy and the International Republican Institute.
Now, what was something that Trump just did?
He cleaned that up.
He shut down USAID, the Agency for International Development, under Obama and Biden that was run as a coup operation, as a regime change operation.
And that's it's actually done through private networks funded by the government to give them a plausible denial.
But now that we're seeing this being chipped away, the problem is you still have a lot of deep state people in the permanent bureaucracy, including in the Justice Department.
And I think before Gabbard tries to get some indictments, there has to be more material coming out.
The American people have to see completely how immoral and corrupt these people are, including the permanent bureaucracy, the people who are burrowed in for 20 to 30 years, who work under Brennan and Clapper and James Comey.
I mean, look at the FBI, Peter Strzok.
Do you remember these names?
Yes, yes.
These are all coming out now.
And it's, I have to say, it's a bit heartwarming to me because I was involved in the campaign to make sure Tulsi Gabbard was confirmed.
And we put out a dossier then in January when the confirmation was going on, exposing what we called the Liars Bureau.
So, you know, I think if the American people get on top of this and figure out the reason you're being taxed for these permanent wars that have no interest, the U.S. has no interest in, is because we're being run from the outside, who then have networks on the inside.
And that's an important factor.
And I think Donald Trump knows the deviousness of the British, but he just went over to talk to Starmer.
I think he's trying to put them on alert that we're not going to play their game anymore.
I think he has everyone on alert right now that we're not doing what we used to do, and he's heading in a different direction.
And I think this is why they're probably panicked, just like when he was in his first term, like when you said that, you know, we have to stop him in 2020.
And I think the Russian collusion is just the first part of it.
It's the introduction.
So this way you know who the players are.
You know who's been trying to stop them.
And I don't think it stopped in 2020.
I think they went ahead and they had to overthrow the election there to make sure that he wasn't going to win.
They had to indict him.
They had to attempt an assassination.
I think when you start to look at this, it's the same exact people over and over because they're protecting their entire system.
Well, and they're protected by the media.
There's media corruption.
They're protected by the think tanks.
They're protected by the academic community.
And they're protected by the permanent bureaucracy and State Department, intelligence community, and the Justice Department.
And the executive branch also is filled with these guys.
Now, you can't come in and fire 80,000 people, but you start peeling away and make it clear to people that they're not going to have a comfortable retirement if they continue this.
And this is partly by taking away their classified privileges.
That's something that most people don't understand.
Why would we take away the classified privilege to look at classified documents?
Because why do you want traders to have access to classified documents?
And so one after another, they're getting rid of these classification protections.
Brennan, for example, lost his.
Clapper lost his.
It's really heartening to see, but there's so much to do.
And the other part of this, Just to go back to what we were talking about at the beginning, is the whole Russia question.
What would happen if Trump and Putin come out of this meeting with not just an agreement to end the war in Ukraine, because the Russians have almost ended it, and the Europeans don't have enough money to build up the Ukrainian military.
But what if they start talking about major infrastructure projects that benefit both nations, like work together on the strategic metals in Siberia and the Arctic?
One of the proposals we made was a tunnel under the Bering Strait to connect Russia and the United States, which is a project that goes back to thinking when Seward first bought Alaska from the Russians.
That's why it's very interesting, Dave, that they're having this summit in Alaska.
So there are some things that Trump can do.
Now, one of the other things that I think he's going to do, which will shock a lot of people, is at some point he's going to meet with Xi Jinping.
And you'll have Trump, Putin, and Xi Jinping, the three largest economic and military powers, working together to crush the international imperial oligarchy, which has run the world for the last 500 years.
And so we're looking at a transition period.
It's a rough period.
Look, we've had wars non-stop since the end of the Second World War.
We've had corruption and fraud, and the whole financial system has been turned over to the hands of a bunch of swindlers and robbers.
But if we can get it back, and that's why the issue of sovereignty is so important.
And just one footnote on that.
One of the things I'm doing here in Germany is working together with the German sovereignty movement, which is essentially the alternative for Deutschland.
But they're very much committed to defending Trump, as are the patriots in France and the United Kingdom, and also in a number of other countries in the global south.
So we have an opportunity to pull the whole world together around physical economic production for mutual benefit, as opposed to allowing imperial looters and predators to control the raw materials and the credit system.
That's the other thing.
We've got to take the credit system away from the central bankers.
I just want to ask a question before we get onto the dollar, because you mentioned the dollar and they might try something with the dollar.
How far back do you think this goes where Europe was controlling everything that we see here today?
Because we know we had a revolutionary war, but does it go back to 1913?
Did it happen in the 70s?
Like, how far back do you think this goes?
Well, I would say it goes back to 1756 in the Seven Year War, the so-called French and Indian War, because it was at that point that Ben Franklin and George Washington pulled together a patriotic movement that defeated the British Empire.
And we fought the British Empire through the whole 19th century.
What was the British Empire doing?
They had the Crimea War in the 1850s, the opium wars against China in the 1860s, the constant great game war in Afghanistan, the oppression of India.
And the problem they had was that the rest of the world was watching the United States grow and become a powerful country based on industry, science, technology, a credit system that gave access to credit to entrepreneurs.
So the rest of the world was moving in that direction.
And that's why we had another round of British intervention in the beginning of the 20th century.
They organized World War I to have Germany and Russia fight each other.
World War I was a period right before that, 1913, the Federal Reserve, the IRS.
And after World War I, in the Versailles Conference, the British establishment tried to recruit an American grouping to be partners with Britain.
That's where the Council on Foreign Relations came from in 1921.
It was an outgrowth of Britain's Chatham House, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, which still operates today with the CFR.
So if you look at the current, I'm giving you a broader picture, but after World War I, they supported Hitler because they wanted Germany and Russia to fight again.
And when I say they, I can name the names, the Harriman bankers, the Morgan bankers, the Rothschilds, the Schroeder bank in Germany, and the Bush family.
Prescott Bush, the grandfather of George W. Bush, was a partner of Harriman in funding Hitler.
So this was a network that tried to use Germany and Russia against each other to destroy each other.
So there wouldn't be an alliance between Europe and Eurasia.
And after World War II, Churchill had something called Project Unthinkable, which was a plan for a preemptive strike against the Soviet Union to establish a one world empire.
But they couldn't do it.
And so you had a Cold War, two empires fighting.
And then what happened?
Look, 1990 and 92, the Soviet Union collapsed because communism doesn't work as a system.
And some in the West said, let's work together with the Russians and build them up.
Especially in Germany, you had a faction that wanted to do that.
And instead, Clinton went with Robert Rubin, went with Larry Summers, with Goldman Sachs, and with the city of London to loot Russia.
That's what the shock therapy policy was.
And that's also what the NATO expansion was, because they didn't want Russia to come back to great power status.
So the Russians, largely because of, I would say, the genius of Putin and the nationalism in the Russian people, and also the traditional religion, the Russian Orthodox Christianity, they've built that nation back up.
And now they're in a position where they can partner with the United States, not as a global empire, but to do what the American system set out to do, which is to lift all nations out of poverty and to show how a sovereign government controlling a credit system outside of the hands of private speculators and bankers represents the way to prosperity.
So we're looking really at the end of a 500-year period.
We're privileged to be alive to see this and to be able to do something with it.
And we're also very privileged that with some, I have some disagreements with Donald Trump, but what I see as a whole is that his commitment to the idea of sovereignty and development is what gives us the opportunity now to end this corrupt system once and for all.
Yeah, I mean, what I get from Trump and Putin, I do believe they want to increase trade.
They want to do business together.
That's what I'm getting at all of this.
And he knows he has to stop this fight.
And it's not even a fight with Ukrainians against Russia.
It's actually NATO, EU.
It's NATO.
Yeah, they're really fighting through Ukraine.
Well, and they're fighting with our money.
Yes, that is true.
The NATO countries, the joke in the German army is they're trying to recruit new people to build up the army.
The way they do it is they go to high school graduations and show people the cool drones and the video games that they use for training.
Because the German people don't want to fight Russia.
No.
Everyday people do not want to go to war.
They don't want to fight.
They don't want to be in trenches.
They don't want to be a part of this.
I mean, yes, the bankers, the deep state players, they want war because they're not in the war.
They're funding the war.
That's true.
They're removed from it.
They have a buffer.
Their children don't go into the wars.
Right.
So you mentioned a little while back about they might try something with the U.S. dollar.
Are you talking about that they might try to hit the financial system?
Sure.
Look, the dollar, you may not know this, but the dollar has depreciated almost 10% since Trump came into office, not because of anything Trump did, but because of the manipulations of the bond market and this whole question of will we release, will the Federal Reserve lower interest rates to release credit?
It's also The Trump, the so-called Trump card they have, is that the U.S. still relies on quantitative easing.
That is a flood of funny money from the Federal Reserve to cover the debt.
Now, how long can this keep going?
When Trump came in the first time, I think the national debt was somewhere around $12 trillion or $14 trillion.
It's now almost triple that.
And the reason for it is that every time the bills come due, they print more money.
And beyond the Federal Reserve printing money, they've deregulated the whole financial system so that the private sector can now create money.
And they create it in dollars.
So essentially, it's a government obligation ultimately.
But what it's like, it's the equivalent of paying for, sorry, just a second.
It's the equivalent of paying for a mortgage on a credit card.
And that's what we've been doing.
And now the interest on the national debt is over a trillion dollars a year.
And it's expected that that will grow to 1.2 to 1.4 trillion in the next three or four years.
So you have this attempt to cover debt by printing money.
Now, the European Union, the imbeciles of the Brussels and the city of London, made an agreement for a $1 trillion expenditure, supposedly for a military buildup.
Now, here's the funny thing: they don't have the infrastructure or the technology or the logistics to do it.
They're just going to print money and buy weapons from the United States.
So they're not going to get even the benefit of hiring workers in their own countries.
In Germany, they're talking about a $60 billion infrastructure budget to do what?
To build the rail system so they can move troops from Germany to Lithuania.
Otherwise, the rail system is collapsing in Germany.
So, you know, you have this horrible situation where Trump does not control the money supply.
And even Powell doesn't control it.
It's controlled by these international banks, the Bank for International Settlements, the International Monetary Fund, and the offshore banks and hedge funds of the city of London.
And they're creating more and more money.
And they're trying to do this now with Bitcoin.
And ultimately, they're going to try and stick the U.S. taxpayer with the losses if Bitcoin depreciates at some point.
So there's a run on the bank, you might say.
And the idea of printing more money to cover it is insane.
And you know that Trump doesn't want to do that.
But this is where he has an opportunity.
And I'll tell you, one of the things he's getting bad advice on is the idea that the BRICS countries are anti-dollar.
They don't want to get rid of the dollar.
They need the dollar.
They want the United States to join them against the speculators.
And this is the ultimate fight Trump is going to have to wage to take control of the budget and the credit system from the city of London and the Wall Street and the offshore banks.
And I'm hopeful that assuming he's not killed or impeached and the midterm elections in 2026 go our way, that that will be the last two years of his term, that we'll get rid of the Federal Reserve.
We'll go back to a national banking system where the Congress, which is supposed to determine credit policy, based on what the American people want, will take it away from the speculators and the financial so-called innovators.
It's interesting because there is a lot of talk like Treasury Secretary Scott Passeng says, you know, I like to review the Fed.
I like to revamp the Fed.
There's talk about removing the IRS.
So they are building the narrative and getting people used to the idea that we can go in that direction.
Because I think most of the population doesn't understand that the Federal Reserve is not really part of the government and how this was all created and the creation of currency.
So I think they're just trying to build a narrative And let the people know and understand that this is a possibility that we can go down this path.
Well, for example, with inflation, inflation is built into the Federal Reserve system because they have no way with the present credit policy and the present debt policy to lower the debt by increasing production.
Trump is trying to do this with tariffs.
He's trying to do it with tax policy.
But the problem is the banks are still not lending to American entrepreneurs.
And it's partly because they don't have the cash to do it.
They're so strung out to cover their own bad debt that whenever new cash is created, new flows of money or new instruments are created, they go into the speculative system as opposed into the physical economy.
And this was the one lesson that I got from Lyndon LaRouche from working with him for 45 years: it's the physical economy that determines prosperity.
And in the United States, we've lost that sense.
I mean, people know it.
You go through the Midwest and you see the rust buckets and the train derailments and you see where we stand.
People knew that things were better in the past, but they don't fully understand that it's the Federal Reserve banking system and the weaponization of the dollar against the American people that's causing it.
So we've got a lot to do to educate people.
I know you do this with your program.
This is one of the main things I do with my daily updates and my writing is to try and give people a sense of why sovereignty is so important.
It's not just a slogan.
It means that instead of the policy being determined based on the necessity for the benefit of the rich and the oligarchs, it's that the policy must be made to serve the interests of the people.
And if the people aren't involved in it, then the oligarchs are going to take over.
They already have.
So we've got to get a mobilization of the American people, whether it's with MAGA, whether it's whatever it's with, to make sure that the country goes back to the principles of physical economic development.
And that's, I think, going to be the key to the success of this presidency.
And that's where the Russia-U.S.
relationship fits in.
The idea that they're not just talking about Ukraine, but they're going to talk about trade.
They're talking about monetary relations, how you basically return to a hard monetary system, whether it's gold, whether it's national currencies, whether it's commodities.
That's the way we have to go.
And since 1971, we've gone away from that.
And that's why we have this mess.
So we can turn it around, but that's what's required.
Let me just get your take on why you think Jerome Powell isn't lowering the rates.
I mean, Trump, Scott Passent, they're out there saying, listen, we have to lower the rates.
And what's very interesting is that Jerome Powell, he lowered the rate, I think, two times before the election, of course, to help Kamala Harris and Biden.
And, you know, inflation was, you know, he brought it all up to 9% and it came down to 3%, 4%, and they dropped the rate.
But now he's not budging.
There's a lot of other Fed governors that are saying, okay, we need to really lower the rates.
There's no reason for it.
But why do you think he's pushing back on this?
Or maybe he's not pushing back.
Maybe he's being forced to push back on this.
Well, I think he's being told that if you don't keep the rates up, there'll be inflation.
And that's one of the mythologies that low interest rates cause inflation.
You know, low interest rates, if the credit is directed into physical production, it's the opposite.
It builds up the strength of the economy and gives a backing to the currency.
That's why we were so strong after World War II.
And so you have this modern monetary theory, which is a cross between Keynes and the Austrian school, which is monetary theory as opposed to the American system, which is physical economy.
And so I think Powell's just an idiot, but he's a pliable idiot.
He's been run by these networks that are out to protect themselves.
You know, Dave, there's so much debt in these markets.
There's two quadrillion dollars.
The estimates are two quadrillion dollars in derivative obligations.
That can never be paid.
Now, the way they work it, it doesn't have to be paid.
All you have to do is maintain payments on the lower level of the monthly or yearly interest.
But that's now up to trillions of dollars.
So it's a hyper-inflationary system that's built in by what Powell and what Janet Yellen before him and what Volcker did before that, Greenspan.
These were idiots who were basically operating on behalf of the speculators and the city of London and Wall Street and the largest international banks and hedge funds and BlackRock.
You put throw in BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street.
That's who's running it.
And they're the ones who give Powell his marching orders.
And that's, you know, you can blame Powell.
I mean, Powell could not do it.
So he does deserve some of the blame, but it's the system.
And so I would say that to take James Carville's old saying, it's the system, stupid.
You have to change the Federal Reserve system.
Put it to an end.
I agree with that.
Hey, Harley, thank you very much for being on the X22 Report Spotlight.
If people wanted to get in touch with you and talk to you, look at your work, where should they go?
Well, there are two things.
I always offer your viewers an opportunity to communicate with me directly.
And I'm perfectly happy to receive emails and send out reports.
So you can reach me at harleysch at gmail.com.
That's H-A-R-L-E-Y-S-C-H at gmail.
And I do answer, even though it's a lot of work.
The other place to go is the LaRouche organization, where I do a daily 10 to 12 minute update to basically look at the day's events from the standpoint of history.
The kind of thing we've just been discussing.
Right, right.
Great.
I'll put all those links at the bottom of the video.
Once again, Harley, thank you very much for being on the spotlight.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Well, thank you for what you do, Dave.
It's really important.
Yes, thank you.
And you too.
Thank you.
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