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June 30, 2025 - X22 Report
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Marc Beckman – AI Wars Have Begun, The Country That Becomes The Master Wins The War

Marc Beckman is the author of Some Future Day, the Host of Some Future Day podcast, and the CEO of the award-winning advertising agency DMA United . Beckman embraces emerging technology to augment campaigns, including artificial intelligence (AI), spatial computing, and blockchain. Marc Beckman, is a senior advisor to Melania Trump

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Let's talk about protecting our wealth.
Here's the hard truth.
Every six years, your dollar loses half of its buying power.
That means a $100,000 savings account today could feel like $50,000 by 2031.
And you see, it every time you fill up your tank, buy groceries, or pay the bills.
Prices are up, your dollar is down.
But there's a simple way to protect the value of your savings with something real, something proven.
It's called gold.
An asset that holds its value over time, that's why I trust Noble Gold Investments.
They make it simple to protect your savings with physical gold or silver.
No high-pressure sales, no call centers, just honest guidance, one-on-one support, and transparent pricing.
And right now, when you open a qualified account, Noble Gold will send you a free 10-ounce Silver American flag bar as a thank you.
Head to x22gold.com today to learn more.
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Hi, and welcome to the X22 Report Spotlight.
Today we have a new guest, Mark Beckman.
Mark is the author of Some Future Day, the host of Some Future Day podcast, the CEO of the award-winning advertising agency DMA United.
Mark Beckman embraces emerging technology to augment campaigns, including artificial intelligence, spatial computing, and blockchain.
Mark is a senior advisor to Melania Trump.
And I am very happy and honored to have Mark on the X22 Report Spotlight.
Mark, welcome to the spotlight.
Dave, thank you so much for having me.
It's truly a pleasure.
Thank you very much for coming on here.
And I just wanted to start off.
I'm sure people are going to ask this question.
How did you become the senior advisor to Melania Trump?
Well, that goes back a long time, Dave.
We've been working together for probably over two decades now, certainly before Barron was born.
So we focus our energy specifically on her brand, on all of her commercial endeavors, all of her philanthropy, speechwriting and beyond.
So, you know, she's a real ally and a close friend and certainly my most important client.
I'm assuming you worked on the Take It Down Act with her?
So I don't work with Melania in the governmental capacity.
I don't have a governmental role, but I'm very close with her as it relates to what she's accomplished with the Take It Down Act.
And it's been remarkable so far.
I think it's really important work.
First and foremost, I know that she puts in a ton of time and effort into her career.
People don't realize she works pretty much 24-7.
In fact, I think she outworks the president on some days, and I could tell you that firsthand.
And when it comes to the Take It Down Act, she was right there too, Dave.
She helped with regards to strategy.
She really ran this thing through Congress, participated all the way through with the senators, the roundtable discussion, the House, and then ultimately signed with the president in the Rose Garden.
And I think it's because there were two elements to it that were really important and hit home to her.
The first part of it is the fact that it's focusing in on emerging technology, specifically artificial intelligence and social media.
And the second part is she's a real champion for our next generation, for our nation's children.
And as you're aware, the Take It Down Act was brought to life because a 15-year-old girl from Texas was victimized.
So those two elements, I think, really meant a lot to the first lady.
Now, this revolves around AI.
And I mean, AI can be used for so many different applications right now and it's being integrated into so many different applications.
So you wrote the book, Some Future Day, How AI is Going to Change Everything.
And you said AI is poised to reshape the way we approach our professional and personal lives.
What do you mean by that?
Well, I believe that artificial intelligence and cryptocurrency, by the way, are connected and they represent or they will represent the largest growth sector percentage-wise in our nation over the next three to four years.
There's no doubt about it.
AI specifically is providing American industries with an underpinning that's going to provide and unlock, frankly, American entrepreneurship, financial growth, and a lot of benefits to the entire community.
AI is going to hit everything from the creative industries, from fashion, art, music, sports, and entertainment to media, finance, government, military, security, and beyond.
And it's going to be very significant.
And what I do is I break down in my book, David, I break down how individuals can use artificial intelligence to enhance their careers, to create value for their families, and to improve their communities.
People are worried about AI because when you hear AI, you know, you think of like the movies like Terminator, Matrix, you know, where everything gets, you know, crazy and AI turns on the people.
But there are certain countries like China and others that are trying to, or even the European Union, that are trying to use AI in a, not in a good way, but to actually stop free speech, censor people and keep people in line.
Are you worried about that aspect of AI?
For sure.
David, I'm sure a lot of your viewers and your fan base agree AI is a tool and it's the individual who can use the tool in a bad way, similar to a handgun, right?
A gun doesn't kill someone.
It's the individual who shoots the gun.
And that's how AI needs to be viewed today.
You mentioned China.
I have a lot of concerns with China and this technology.
First of all, China leads the world.
You won't be surprised by this, but they lead the world right now with facial recognition software.
They're way ahead of anybody on the planet.
In fact, they have the ability to use facial recognition software to highlight an individual's shoulder with a jacket, a piece of hair, or beyond, and they could pinpoint who that individual is.
So they're way ahead of the curve on that front.
Beyond that, they have also started to launch their own AI search engines like DeepSeek.
You might have heard of DeepSeek because it raced to number one on the Apple store.
Over 2 million people, Americans, downloaded it upon its launch.
And what DeepSeek does is characterizes our history, our world's history, through the lens of almost like the CCP or Confucius.
So Tiananmen Square, didn't happen.
Uyghurs, no slavery.
Xi Jinping, a whole different thing.
So how we're interpreting history is also at risk.
And then finally, loading that AI pistol and aiming it at other governments for propaganda purposes is also an issue with China.
So just a few weeks ago, maybe three, four weeks ago, Reuters reported that China, the Chinese government used artificial intelligence to create a campaign into Taiwan that was anti-American.
And they used AI to create video, hyper-realistic photography, and words to basically knock America and America's values and to put down capitalism, trying to put a distance between the Taiwanese and the Americans.
So again, it's a tool and we need to treat AI as we would a child with care.
We need to be responsible.
We need to be gentle.
But if the wrong actor is holding that tool, it definitely could be dangerous, David.
You just mentioned DeepSeek.
What is different between that and, I guess, just other AI?
Why did that become so popular?
Sure.
So DeepSeek really, in my opinion, exposed China for being way ahead, way more advanced in artificial intelligence than most experts thought.
In fact, I thought they were about two years behind us, but they leapfrogged over those two years.
And I'd say China is neck and neck with America right now.
There's a real AI war, and USA versus China is at the forefront.
And DeepSeek, what DeepSeek did, which is really interesting and gave them that advantage, is first, a Chinese hedge fund is the operator.
And I believe a lot of the financing comes from the CCP itself.
I firmly believe this.
And what they did was they, rather than using expensive typical NVIDIA chips, they were able to use a lesser quality chip to deliver essentially the same quality results from a timing perspective that we see with American LLMs like OpenAI's ChatGPT or Perplexity, but for no money, they came into America and said, we're going to charge you nothing.
You could use DeepSeek for free.
And they trained their LLM with the way that they interpreted the world.
So again, that could be troublesome for our next generation who might use AI for search purposes.
In fact, 10% of the American population has already moved away from traditional search like Google into AI search like DeepSeek, ChatGPT, and Perplexity.
So they were able to take some shortcuts.
They trained their LLM differently.
Some of it, some people say they speculate.
I haven't seen evidence personally yet, but they speculate that DeepSeek was also draining essentially the OpenAI's LLM, ChatGPT, for knowledge.
And this is why they were able to accelerate and build for less money.
I don't believe that story entirely.
I think the Chinese are spinning it in a way.
And during that time period, by the way, it's worth looking at.
NVIDIA's stock got nailed big time at the same exact time that DeepSeek launched and announced that they didn't need to use these better quality chips.
But they did a lot that is really eye-opening.
And what they showed is that consumers don't need the best quality chips.
They need information delivered in a quick way and information that they believe is true.
But with DeepSeek, you got to beware.
It might not be true.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
AI is trained, right?
They have to skim the data and they have to train the AI in a certain way.
Now, I'm assuming that's what China did.
They trained their AI to report on certain things.
That's correct, David.
So the way these large language models are trained, it's very interesting, actually.
Essentially, what they do is they evaluate, let's say they read an entire corpus of information that humanity has built.
So Sam Altman, the founder and owner of OpenAI, talks about the training process because it's massive.
He's looking at newspapers, magazines.
He's going across books and poems and everything that you could imagine to train ChatGPT.
Then it's set up in a way where that training continues to go forward and it continues to learn more.
Now, with DeepSeek, the accusation is that it essentially used the billions of dollars of training that Sam Altman spent for ChatGPT.
Basically stole that information and helped DeepSeek.
And then they spun it a little bit so that it comes out with like a communist type of slant and approach to history.
And this kind of reminds me of like country or the group that wins the war.
They write the history.
So what we have right now is AI.
And from China, you have a different history than, say, ChatGPT or even Grok here in the United States, because when you go to each one of these AI platforms, they can tell you something completely different.
And then we don't get the true understanding of history.
Not saying that we really understand history because history is written by the winner, but we're now getting three different versions of history.
How do we combat this?
That's for sure.
It's interesting that you talk to Grok because Grok is really an incredible tool.
It's remarkable what Elon Musk does.
It's just another victory that will continue to grow.
When I talk about training these LLMs, what Grok does, that's incredible, is it's training on all of the information that the corpus of information that's on X. So in real time, current events keep updating the LLM.
But what's happened is these are centralized entities.
In the case of Grok or OpenAI's Chat GPT, these are corporations with a certain perspective of the world and they want to push that through.
With DeepSeek, I really believe it's the government's perspective.
I don't believe it's the hedge fund.
I believe it's the CCP.
Now, their version of the world, and in turn, their version of how the world should be perceived, is being pushed at us as well as the next generation.
So what I often talk about is, you know, when I was growing up, I was taught seeing is believing.
If you don't see it, don't believe it.
Today, I'm teaching my children total opposite.
If you see it, verify it.
Because artificial intelligence is so good now at creating original content in video, hyper-lit realistic photography, audio, music, written words, newspaper articles, books.
You need to really pay attention.
Even audio, you really need to pay attention and verify the information that you're looking at.
Whether you're going searching on an LLM or if it's coming at you on your television, you can't just trust everything anymore.
You need to verify.
With Take It Down That Act where you have these videos of, I don't know, maybe Milani or others, and people are looking at it going, wow, is that really that person?
How can we tell if it's real, fake?
How do we know?
When you say verify, I mean, that's right, Mark?
That's what you're saying.
Like, you're telling your children, verify this.
But, you know, to the naked eye, or if I hear a conversation that's audio.
Let's talk about protecting our wealth.
Here's the hard truth.
Every six years, your dollar loses half of its buying power.
That means a $100,000 savings account today could feel like $50,000 by 2031.
And you see it every time you fill up your tank, buy groceries, or pay the bills.
Prices are up, your dollar is down, but there's a simple way to protect the value of your savings with something real, something proven.
It's called gold.
An asset that holds its value over time.
That's why I trust Noble Gold Investments.
They make it simple to protect your savings with physical gold or silver.
No high-pressure sales, no call centers, just honest guidance, one-on-one support, and transparent pricing.
And right now, when you open a qualified account, Noble Gold will send you a free 10-ounce Silver American flag bar as a thank you.
Head to X22Gold.com today to learn more.
That's x22gold.com.
Don't just protect your wealth, preserve its power.
And remember, there's always a risk of investment and there's no guarantee of any kind.
Hey, listeners, if you're in need of trusted medication like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, amoxicillin, look no further than reliablerxstore.com, your reliable online pharmacy for high quality generics.
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That's why they're offering privacy-focused packaging, secure payment options, and a dedicated customer support team that's with you every step of the way.
They're committed to making sure your experience is seamless, safe, and private.
And here's a special offer for everyone that's listening.
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If you can't find the medication you're looking for on the website, no worries.
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Let's talk about protecting our wealth.
Presenting my digital money, where retirement grows and stays safe.
Experts say you'll need $4 million to retire comfortably and with inflation rising fast, even $100,000 a year is now considered low income according to MIT.
So how do you get there?
Bitcoin may be the answer.
It's already surged past $111,000 and top analysts say it could reach $300,000 to $1.5 million by 2030.
That's the kind of growth that can turn $100,000 into $1 million in five years.
But don't just grow your assets, protect them.
With My Digital Money Crypto IRA, your Bitcoin grows tax-free and is secured in military-grade military signature cold storage, keeping your assets safe from online security threats.
Even better, your holdings are segregated from business operations, so there's no commingling and you never are treated as an unsecured creditor, unlike other platforms.
Go to mydigitalmoney.com to get started.
Grow it, guard it, own your future.
And I listen to it.
I'm like, okay, I know AI, you can train your voice and then all of a sudden it can speak.
But how can we check and how can we verify that it's fake compared to the real version?
I think Google just came out with their, what is it?
I think I'm pronouncing it correctly, VO2, their video production.
I mean, that looks scary.
That looks real.
It looks incredible with VO.
I think it's VO3 and it's an incredible product right now.
It's gorgeous, actually.
So when I look at it, I mean, to the naked eye, if I look at it and I go, okay, that looks real to me.
I don't know.
And I think it's just going to get better and better.
And are there tools that we can use to combat what AI is creating?
Can AI be used then to say, no, no, no, this is fake.
This is real?
How do we do this?
Yeah.
So you're ahead of the curve, Dave.
And I'm not surprised.
I've been a fan of your show, as you're aware.
So there are companies now that are building out, private companies that are building out essentially authentication models for the social media networks that could become subject to liability as a result of the Take It Down Act.
And what they're using are algorithms that were created at some of the best institutions in the United States, including MIT and Stanford.
And the algorithms are, believe it or not, artificial intelligence.
So you have an AI tool looking at the subject matter of a complaint from a victim who's saying, this content is something that I did not consent to, and it has intimate imagery of me, and I'm a victim.
And now these tools are going to be critical for companies like Meta, Snap, TikTok, and beyond, because imagine the thousands and thousands of complaints from alleged victims that are going to come through every single day as a result of the Take It Down Act.
So now these tools that are being built, I've already spoke with a couple of owners in the space, actually.
It's really incredible what they're doing.
Different models, too.
Some of them want to license the tool directly to the social media platforms.
Some of them want to have victims run through their tool as if it's a third-party entity to assist.
But these tools are being built and they're going to use AI to discover whether or not the content is AI itself.
Wow.
Okay.
Pretty wild, right?
Yeah, that is pretty wild.
So in the beginning of this, you said something about cryptocurrency, where AI is going to be used for cryptocurrency.
What do you see happening in the future with blockchain?
Yeah.
Well, I'm very excited about blockchain.
President Trump has just done a tremendous job in standing up the White House crypto summit, his executive order, where he's going with regards to Bitcoin, as well as digital assets.
It's incredible.
It's what we really need coming off of the Biden administration.
I'm very excited about it because a few things are going to happen.
The first is because President Trump is taking a hands-off deregulatory type of approach, we're going to finally attract investment into America again.
The opposite happened with the Biden administration.
They locked down and created so much uncertainty with regards to whether or not these assets are cryptocurrency, a security.
They really failed at defining it.
As a result, it scared investors and the investment community, and they ran overseas.
So we're going to start to see billions and billions of dollars worth of investment come in to unlock American innovation and new businesses in the crypto space.
The second thing that we're going to see, which is exciting, is talent from Web3, blockchain, crypto, NFTs come back into the United States.
A lot of the talent went overseas because that was where they could practice their skill set in an unencumbered way.
Talent is going to come back now, and I think that's going to be very exciting for America's business sector overall.
Can you just give me an example how AI would be used in Bitcoin, blockchain?
How are they integrated?
What would they be used?
How would they work together?
Sure.
So I'll give you a good example.
One area as it relates to Web3 and AI running together is on a topic we just spoke to, authentication.
So think in terms of how artificial intelligence is creating deep fakes, not just in the form of non-consensual intimate imagery, as with the deep fake, with the Take It Down Act, but think in terms of politicians.
Now you'll see so much deep fake content created over and over again as we go into the midterms, for example, of a politician stating something that he or she might not actually state.
I think we're going to get into a rhythm where that original content will be minted on the blockchain permanently in a way that is impossible to modify, and that will serve as proof of authenticity.
So that's one area where I think these two worlds are going to come together with regards to artificial intelligence and cryptocurrency or blockchain technology working together.
It will be proof of authenticity.
AI seemed to, for me, it kind of came out of nowhere.
Like all of a sudden, we had, you know, the beginnings of ChatGPT and then all of a sudden it popped up and people started to use it.
And then all of a sudden Elon said, oh, you know what?
Here's Grok.
And he started off with, you know, the Grok beta and then went to Grok 2 and then Grok 3.
And all of a sudden, the AI was able to create pictures.
And then all of a sudden it was, I thought it happened very, very quickly.
Like, where did this come from?
I know they were talking about AI a while ago, but it felt like it just all of a sudden it appeared.
And then DeepSeek all of a sudden came out.
And it just happened in a matter of a very short period of time.
I mean, at this point, I know it's at the beginning stages, but from this point and moving to the next area of AI, do you think AI would become sentient?
Would it be able to actually think on its own?
So, David, that's a great, a great question.
And I say that because I think what you're talking about is AGI.
It's essentially when artificial intelligence reaches a point where it's training itself and it's learning quicker than a human being can.
And it's my understanding from what I've been told in my little circles of artificial intelligence that we're way closer to reaching AGI than people believe.
So there won't be that sentient part of a human being, right?
Because at the end of the day, artificial intelligence is simply a predicting algorithm.
It's algebra.
It's math.
But it will have the ability to hyper-accelerate innovation and discovery in a way that will improve our lives.
So take, for example, medicine.
It's going to be incredible to see what artificial intelligence does as it relates to uncovering treatments for rare diseases or underserved diseases.
I have a client of mine, in fact, who's a scientist and has used artificial intelligence to already start analyzing DNA sequences.
And she told me that essentially what she's getting, what she's uncovering with AI in the analysis of a gene sequence in two weeks would be the equivalent of what historically would take 10 years and millions and millions of dollars in investment.
So yeah, the acceleration is coming and it's going to help, I think, humankind in some great ways.
I mean, when I said sension, I'm thinking, and this is how my mind works, that the AI believes that it's sension, not that it actually becomes, but it believes that, wait a minute, of all the data and everything that the AI is looking at,
it all of a sudden believes that, wait a minute, I mean, take, for example, when you download the app Grok and you speak now to Grok and you hear the voice, it sounds kind of real because you can say whatever you want and the AI is able to answer.
So I think I'm just curious and wondering as time goes on, and I don't think we're that far off, will this AI or AGI start to say, you know something?
Am I just like a human?
Am I not like a human?
Like, can I think of my own?
So there are LLMs that are at a higher level of reasoning right now, and they allow for the user to see the thought process, quote unquote, that the LLM goes through to reach a conclusion.
There are studies that came out recently, in fact, David, where the LLM was putting a kill switch against itself so that the humans couldn't turn it off or couldn't stop the LLM from doing a certain kind of research.
And the humans went in and they evaluated this.
And as a result, they're trying to take certain steps, as I understand, that China is taking for a more centralized controlled type of experience, believe it or not.
But that's just early on, and we'll see.
But honestly, like when you talked about Terminator earlier, I kind of smirked because I don't believe we're going to be living in a world where the robots are going to take over and they're going to be launching our weaponry and our nuclear missiles at our major cities.
I just don't believe that that's going to happen.
But I got to tell you, I did read just as recently as this morning a story where the LLM was able to make a note to itself to make sure that in the future it wasn't shut down from doing a particular type of research that the humans were prompting it to do.
Really?
This is true.
Oh, that's kind of scary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
That just blew my mind right there because that's yeah.
But I'll take this to the next step.
So now we see like Boston Dynamics, Elon, they're all creating these robots.
And you've probably seen them, you know, on YouTube, on Rumble and many other places where they can walk now without, you know, wires or anything like that.
They can function without anyone controlling them.
Now, as, and I'm assuming that they're going to use AI.
And as they learn and they go about their business and they learn about what's going on, they're going to start, I'm going to use the word understand, but start to understand, you know, their surroundings of how everyone interacts and they'll be watching and learning.
So where do we go from there?
Because I mean, I think myself and probably others, every time I talk to someone, they're like, that's what I'm worried about.
I'm worried about the robot part of it, where, yes, it looks like, oh, great, I have someone to vacuum.
I have someone to cut my lawn.
I have someone to wash my windows.
But as time goes on, the robots or androids or whatever they are, they're going to become more and more like a human, even though they're, you know, plastic circuitry and things like that.
Eventually, they're going to operate like a human because of AI.
Yeah, there's no doubt about it, David.
I mean, I have seen so many proposals come through my office now where investment is going across robotics in so many different ways.
Sure, families will have, you know, a Jetson style robot.
For $5,000, a Tesla robot will come into your home and take care of all of those monotonous menial tasks that you hate.
Laundry, cooking, all of these types of issues, feeding the dog, take care of it all, right?
And I think in the beginning, you'll even see neighbors sharing robots to keep the cost down.
That's all going to be real.
It's all going to happen.
But over time, the robots are going to start to take on different shapes.
It's not just going to be humanoid or looking like a human being.
You'll start to see robots get into The autonomous vehicle space as it relates to airplanes on the water.
Drones are going to become more and more ubiquitous.
These are all robots, and this is the way the world is going to evolve.
One of the best inventions that I saw come in front of me within the past couple of weeks is a guy that is committed to using a robot as a tutor for educational purposes.
He's calling it Socrates, and it's really genius.
You highlighted the fact, David, that AI is at the center of all of these robotics, and you're absolutely correct.
What's interesting about Socrates is I believe that it will fundamentally change the way that humans interact with a tutor, because starting at a young age, Socrates will understand the students, the pupil's level of knowledge, and you'll be able to grow with your robotic tutor throughout a lifetime.
And the tutor will be able to amplify areas of education that are needed and then turn down areas where the pupil has already accelerated his or her growth of that knowledge base.
So I think it's going to be really interesting.
The innovation will be all over different shapes of robotics from security and defense all the way through simple education.
It's almost like the computer going back to Steve Jobs and when they were working in their garage and they first introduced the first personal computer.
And now here we are with these phones that are, you know, that can do a lot more than those personal computers.
Where right now I think we're at the beginning stages of something that I don't even think that we can imagine where this is all going to go.
Because like you said, AI is going to be pretty much in almost everything.
I mean, they're already in the phones.
They're already introducing it in the phones.
They're introducing it everywhere.
So I think that AI is going to be the wave of the future.
And I think that it's going to change humanity.
I couldn't agree with you more, but we need to be curious and resilient when these problems occur.
So like take, for example, President Trump's recent trip to the Middle East.
He went to three countries, as you're well aware, in the GCC, Qatar, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and UAE.
And he brought back a big pile of cash for American businesses, $2 trillion invested in the United States into the AI ecosystem, think in terms of software algorithms.
We've been talking a lot about that, but also power and hardware, chips, hyperscale data centers, et cetera.
Now, part of the problem with an area that I'm concerned about personally is we're aligning with allies in that instance, Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia, but these allies don't necessarily share American values, right?
They might look at freedoms in a different way that we do.
Now, what happens if some bad actor in that region accesses one of the large language models that are being run within that territory on behalf of an American company?
Or what happens, for example, if this region grows so significantly over time that we find ourselves in a way that we do today with China, where, you know, what, going back to the Clinton era, we started offshoring all of our manufacturing into China and gave them great growth.
But we're realizing today these people don't share American values.
Well, what happens if we see that happen through artificial intelligence and emerging technology in the GCC?
It's not so far-fetched.
What do you think?
No, I think you're right.
I already think we're seeing that.
I think that with other countries, with AI, depending on who's supplying the technology, I think we have to be very, very careful.
It's almost like when computers first came out, we had the computers, but no one ever thought of a virus.
Nobody ever thought of a malware inside a computer.
We don't know at this point what is going to happen with AI.
I'm not saying it's going to be a malware or a virus.
It might be something completely different when they come up with a whole new name for it, but we don't know what's going to happen.
And you're right that we don't know because, yes, they're our allies today.
We don't know moving forward what is going to happen, especially with the technology that they're supplying, because again, it's very difficult to go through all the code, go through all the chips, go through everything.
You don't know what's hidden.
You don't know what's implanted.
You don't know any of that.
So that's the other aspect of this is that, yes, AI, it's new, everything's changing.
But again, there's other problems that come along with it.
Just like when personal computing was created, no one ever thought of a virus.
No one ever thought of a malware.
No one ever thought of any of that.
So I think we have a lot to examine as we move forward with all of this.
For sure.
But take it even further.
I love that your mindset is based in the technology.
But remember, I was just boasting about AI's ability to unlock innovation in the medical sector to save lives.
Imagine that bad actor in the Middle East who uses AI that our American companies have built to unlock perhaps hazardous materials, infectious diseases, biohazardous materials in the physical world, right?
These are issues that we need to think about.
There aren't a lot of conversations about it, David, but it's realistic.
It will be easier for a bad actor to do the research and unlock biohazardous types of materials, infections, viruses that can be spread across society in a way today that maybe we didn't envision two, three years ago.
So you're saying something like a pandemic or pandemic that we, something like that.
Could be, right?
Not so far-fetched.
No, it really isn't.
And yeah, I mean, this, I mean, it's all with all new technology.
I mean, you always have the ability for others to manipulate and do things that are not in the best interest of the country that the technology is in.
So I could see that happening.
I can definitely see that occurring.
And that's, I think there has to be other safeguards that are put into place.
Just, I mean, again, with AI, I mean, it's all about training.
It's all about who, I guess, the master is.
If you really think about it.
I agree.
I agree.
I totally agree.
And I think I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I think it's like we got to consider, like, do our does our government and do our law enforcement officials have the capabilities of keeping up with these new technologies?
At this point, I don't think so.
I mean, I'm not sure if you're familiar, but 3D printed guns are really easy to build.
They shoot as hard as an iron pistol.
And all a kid has to do, it could be a 16-year-old, is go online, use AI, figure out how to download and print the gun in his or her living room.
And again, it's using artificial intelligence.
And that gun, in a matter of hours, can be taken out into Madison Square Garden, not be detected because it's not metal.
And it's going to change the pace of crimes and law enforcement and government creating laws.
It's difficult.
With the case with the replicated gun, I mean, a lot of the different stadiums, the airport, they don't even use metal detectors anymore.
They use more of imaging technology.
So even if you had a plastic gun and you're trying to get it in there, the imaging technology will pick up the shape and pick up, you know, that you have it on you.
So it's not really that invisible.
I mean, yeah, metal detection, I get that.
But in most places today, we really don't use metal detectors.
I mean, maybe some of the smaller events and things like that, but, you know, the airports, you know, you put your bag in, they can see a 3D image of every single shape and everything that's in your bag.
So I don't know if that is a very big concern, but I get your point.
I get that, you know, somebody could just create something like that.
You're going to say something.
I see you looking.
No, I'm just laughing because, you know, what they're pulling out here in New York, in New York City is people who are creating 3D printed guns that look like Hello Kitty, that look like parts of pop culture.
So it's not like you and I would imagine like an ironcast black looking gun.
It actually looks like a toy or candy in hot pink colors, and it doesn't even take the normal shape of a traditional iron pistol.
I think our government and law enforcement are going to have their hands really full as it relates to keeping up with artificial intelligence and the types of threats and risks that come out of it.
I think it's going to be a challenging time.
And then also making sure they don't breach our constitutional rights.
I mentioned facial recognition software in China in the beginning of our conversation.
I understand that there are some governments, entities, like for example, the Miami Police Department's reported that they've been using facial recognition software in limited cases because it really is, it could create an invasion of privacy.
There's a lot happening in the federal government right now that people are concerned about as it relates to new technology being built into databases.
So I think that's going to be a big issue too, making sure that Americans' freedom, that are constitutional rights are preserved.
No, I agree with that 100% because, I mean, I think this all goes all the way back to the Founding Fathers with the Constitution.
Yeah, we might have new technology today, but it's the same exact issues that they had back then.
And, you know, like today, when, for example, if you're on social media and you're using like I do, X22 Report, that is my pen name.
Back then, the Founding Fathers, they had pen names.
Yes, it might not have been on a social media platform, but they had different pen names and they published in, you know, different publications.
So they, you know, that people couldn't, you know, figure out who they were.
And I think we just have different types of mediums that we use today.
Back then, it was paper.
Today, it's, you know, it's the screen.
But you're doing the same exact thing.
There's really no difference.
And going back to the weapon, the weapon, yes, it might have an outer, the shape might look different, but it still has a barrel.
It still has a bullet inside.
It still has a firing pin.
It still has all of those things that makes the gun work.
So those still can be detected unless you have a laser gun or something.
I don't know if we develop something like that.
But that still can be detected the same exact way.
Even though you change the outside, like you said, Hello Kitty or whatever.
You still have the internal mechanisms are still the same.
I agree.
I agree.
But I mean, yeah, I mean, this is all new territory.
It's like the new frontier.
And I mean, I remember going back in time when we had the internet.
Everyone thought the internet, you know, 1.0, it was never going to be anything.
What are you going to do on it?
You can't use it for anything.
And now look at us today.
Everything revolves around the internet.
Now it's now more so than ever before.
Yeah, we couldn't exist without digital, without our digital existence.
And the next generation, think in terms of Gen Z, Gen Alpha, they're embracing it even more.
A majority of the time that they spend in their daily lives, generally speaking, is digitally, right?
They're consuming content.
They're engaging with their friends.
They're learning.
It goes on and on and on.
And that's why I think that we're going to see cryptocurrency and digital assets really stand up.
But again, law enforcement's already concerned about these types of issues.
You know, like you mentioned, you know, your X22 moniker.
In the world of cryptocurrency, nobody really needs to have a public-facing name or image.
You can go ahead and show proof of solvency by showing your wallet.
You'll be able to eventually have deeds or other important governmental types of issues minted permanently on the blockchain in an authentic way.
And you'll be able to transfer monies into, you know, let's say another digital wallet to purchase a car, to purchase a home.
This is all possible today.
And there's really no reason to have a public-facing name against those transactions.
So, the world's going to change a lot for Gen Z and Gen Alpha.
I think you're correct.
And I'm just going to go back to my go back in time a little bit.
You know, everyone's worried about privacy transactions.
You know, I want to keep it private.
Well, if you go back in time and you go back to when we're using coins and pieces of paper and you made a deal with someone and you gave them these pieces of paper, nobody knew about your transaction.
No one knew about anything that the government didn't know.
They couldn't trace you.
They couldn't track you.
It was completely and utterly private.
So I think it's, I don't think it's new.
I just think we're moving away from the government actually tracking us with everything that we do.
We're going, I think we need to go back to what our founding fathers want, which is privacy.
And, you know, if you, if you just go back in time and use pieces of paper and coins and things like that, and you like, hey, I'm going to sell, you know, this item or I'm going to do, nobody knew about it.
The government didn't know about it.
And the only reason they want to track everything today is because, and everything I say goes back to the Federal Reserve, but it goes back to the central bank system because they have to collect the taxes.
And this is why they need to know what you're doing because they need to know, hey, do you owe me the taxes?
Because, you know, everything that we, the money that you hold today is not ours.
We borrow the currencies loaned to us.
So that's why they need to know.
In reality, my personal opinion, we don't need the central bank.
We don't need to pay taxes.
We don't need to do any of these things.
And this is how the founding fathers actually really wanted it, going back to the very, very beginning, that the wealth wasn't going to be taken from us.
The government wasn't going to be looking into our business.
And you weren't supposed to be tracked on, you know, oh, wait, did you make that transaction?
Did you pay taxes on that?
So I think, you know, with crypto, I think that's an incredible move of keeping your private transactions private.
And I don't think people need to know your name, what you're doing.
It's none of their business, actually.
Yeah, I was actually really satisfied when President Trump issued one of his early executive orders in this administration surrounding central bank digital currency.
You mentioned central banking, and President Trump stated in no uncertain terms that there will never be a central bank digital currency.
There will never be a CBDC, which was heartening to me because I'm already seeing in places like China behavior being influenced and restricted as a result.
I mean, imagine if we have an administration that controls our digital form of payment.
And if we want to encourage, let's say, behavior where we no longer can use oil, but we have to use only electric for our cars.
But because electricity is difficult right now to really do the job, they'll only allow for two electric fills a day.
And at that point, they could cut it off because they control the digital currency through a central bank.
These are the types of issues that are really concerning.
So for me, cryptocurrency on a philosophical level Goes back to your point, David, to this idea of individual liberty, individual freedom.
I could create what I want, I could sell it for as much as I want, and I could trade with cryptocurrency however I want.
And you don't need to see my face.
Mark, I want to thank you very much for coming on the X22 Report Spotlight.
If somebody, if they want to get your book, where should they go to get your book?
Thank you.
Is it all right if I hold up a copy of it?
Sure, Go ahead.
All right.
I love this image.
It's actually created not with AI.
Some future day, How AI is going to change everything is available in Barnes Noble, Amazon.
It's a good time to get it, Dave, because it went to number one for AI and crypto and then sold out on Amazon and Barnes and Noble, and my publisher just restocked it.
So some future day, how AI is going to change everything.
Great.
I'll put all the links at the bottom of the video.
Mark, once again, thank you very much for being on the spotlight.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Oh, it's such an honor.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you.
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